game-development

[normal silo]

As for what GPUs are doing in games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8YtdC8mxTU

How GPUs work internally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Z4oGN89MU

Historically GPUs also were specific purpose hardware just for rendering, but over time became more general purpose (with the introduction of things like the CUDA core (general purpose cores)). After having become more general purpose other fields such as physical simulation and machine learning started making heavy use of them.

GPUs are continuing to become better at general purpose parallel compute (and starting to make CPUs somewhat obsolete other than for low latency tasks (GPUs are high latency) or tasks that can't be parallelized at all).

[dawn quiver]

Wow, I'm impressed let me go watch the video

[exotic parcel]

Hi

[muted sand]

Hey

[granite ruin]

Hi devs, is it good to use pygame to make mini games in Python?

[raven kernel]

good for what

its good for productivity for the sake of being productive i guess, but you'll pretty much only get good at that and python

[dawn quiver]

is anyone here

[gloomy ledge]

perhaps

[vernal hearth]

Hi this logo is my game

[vernal hearth]

It's not over yet

[robust egret]

it looks amazing

did you make it?

[vernal hearth]

Make in ChatGBT

[robust egret]

I feard so

[magic jolt]

Alright so just a quick question here so I can research it further. I want to make a simple 2d game, likely top down or frozen first person perspective (View of the room from the doorway without ability to move for instance) I've got a decent handle on how I want to code all the backend stuff but could use some suggestions on what programs to put it into to make a UI and visuals

Like I can build the entire game and play it in just the print out terminal in VS code but I'm wanting to have an actual UI instead of a Text based game played in a terminal

[balmy pilot]

pyGame is pretty popular here.

[magic jolt]

Can you import art assets with that or is it stuck as the grey minesweeper-esque terminal?

[balmy pilot]

You can load images from files https://www.pygame.org/docs/ref/image.html#pygame.image.load

pygame lets you do almost anything you might want, at least in 2D

[magic jolt]

Looks good, running into an issue with the import atm though, might be because I installed it in a different location than the automatic installer?

[balmy pilot]

Yeah, personally what I do is make a virtual env for each project, and install things locally inside that

I use uv to do that but there are many possible approaches

[magic jolt]

What version of Python do you recomend for using with Pygame? dont want to run into any errors on that end at least
(decided to just fresh install everything so I knew where everything was)

[balmy pilot]

I haven't thought about it super hard, but 3.11 might be a good choice; new enough that you get nice features, not the latest though so every library doesn't need to be up to date?

Lemme see what their build/CI runs on

Oh wow I guess 3.9 still? That surprises me.

The last merge to main on pygame was 7 months ago? Yikes

I hate to suggest using Python 3.9 at this point because it's end-of-life.. 3.11 should work but it's surprisingly non-obvious from the pygame github page.

[magic jolt]

is it easy to update the library?

[balmy pilot]

It usually is; they probably just need to update their GitHub build config and it'll just turn out to be working

I'm just surprised it's not currently automatically tested on 3.10 or newer

[magic jolt]

So 3.11.12 should be fine?

[balmy pilot]

Yeah

But if you do run into trouble, 3.9 seems like the safe (though ancient) choice.

(October 2020 wow)

[limber veldt]

I use pygame-ce 2.5.3 (SDL 2.30.12, Python 3.12.2) daily

[balmy pilot]

Maybe I should open a pygame PR to update their CI build matrix then

[magic jolt]

where do you get pygame-ce 2.5.3 all the releases I see in the pygame downloads are in the 1.9's

[limber veldt]

Pygame-CE is the community edition, their github is here https://github.com/pygame-community/pygame-ce

Instructions for installing it can be found there

It's pygame but has a few extra features not found in the original pygame, and is steadily updated

[magic jolt]

Gotcha 👍

[limber veldt]

Many of the newer tutorials by some are using pygame-ce, it's totally backward compatible so even old pygame projects still work with ce

[balmy pilot]

Aha and unlike pygame, it's tested on newer Pythons https://github.com/pygame-community/pygame-ce/blob/main/.github/workflows/build-ubuntu-debug-python.yml#L54

[limber veldt]

Yeah, there was a shake up of ownership or something with the original pygame, so much of that same team forked it to work on their own version, ce

[magic jolt]

Gotcha, that makes alot more sense. alright that seems to have installed alright so far using pip, now to see if it imports properly 👍

[limber veldt]

Good luck!

[magic jolt]

Alright ran into a small error because I deleted python to reinstall everything and VS code had a heart attack about it (infinite terminal reactivation loading) but fixed it and now it looks like the import is working correctly 👍

[limber veldt]

Nice, have fun

[magic jolt]

Now just to figure out how pygame actually works and learn a whole new branch of python coding to figure it out

[limber veldt]

Yeah, there's a lot you can do, the docs is a great place to start, maybe familiarize yourself with some of the modules and methods

Tutorials too, like to get up and running just making a screen and things like that

[rocky blaze]

Just finished 28 levels of my pygame lol

Took 5 months

Super level intensive game with a bunch of conditional statements, nesting, and numpy arrays

[shy dock]

nice

[magic jolt]

For the pygame screen.fill command, what set of color numbers does it use?

is it 3 digit hex or?

[limber veldt]

You can use hex like 0xabfe81

I usually just use one of the pygame color constants

Or can do rgb like (200, 155, 128)

Or can do 'black' (one of the constants)

https://www.pygame.org/docs/ref/color_list.html

All the named colors

[magic jolt]

Oh so I could just do

screen.fill([black])
#instead of
screen.fill([0,0,0])
#or is it
screen.fill(black)

[limber veldt]

in quotes for the constants, like 'black'

[magic jolt]

keep the brackets?

[limber veldt]

A list should work, though the function wants a tuple

Like screen.fill('black')

Or screen.fill((0, 0, 0))

Same thing, both are black

[rocky blaze]

The colors are primarily red, green, blue

Just screen.fill(black)

No ‘

[limber veldt]

It's convenient for pygame to have a bunch of them defined as constants

I see a lot of code defining themselves when pygame has already done so many of them

[magic jolt]

alright so I'm confused, does it or does it not need the ' ?

[rocky blaze]

No it does not

[limber veldt]

Filled with 'steelblue4'

A string

[magic jolt]

... okayyyy I'm just going to assume its not needed but coded to recognize it either way until I can get home to test it

[limber veldt]

From the list shown there, we see steelblue4 is defined

So just pass the string

[rocky blaze]

It’s not needed, black is the variable, not a string generally

And you could then input the variable to the different objects to determine the color and the alpha

[limber veldt]

The point is, there is no need to define your own black = (0, 0, 0) variable, pygame already has that in the string 'black'

[magic jolt]

no reason besides 'I want to' anyway

[limber veldt]

Yeah, custom colors and having complete control of what color means what is totally valid

[rocky blaze]

Mb for the late response, I had to look back at my codes to give you a more definite answer @magic jolt

[limber veldt]

I do some for my games when I want to define global colors

[magic jolt]

So question since you brought up alpha Blackberry is

screen.fill(blue, a = 25)

Valid?

[limber veldt]

Alpha?

[magic jolt]

well maybe I should change it to blue instead of black

but yes

[limber veldt]

For that, I'd define my colors myself, with 4 element tuples, like black with alpha of 25 (0, 0, 0, 25)

[magic jolt]

Ah okay I didnt know you could just do another value either. the pygame documentation lists it as
"Color(r, g, b, a=255) -> Color"

[limber veldt]

I think all of the pygame colors have alpha set to 255

[runic saddle]

yes

[rocky blaze]

255 is max

[runic saddle]

you can see that from the colordict

[rocky blaze]

You could set it to 192

[limber veldt]

Yeah

[rocky blaze]

128

[runic saddle]

    "aliceblue": (240, 248, 255, 255),
    "antiquewhite": (250, 235, 215, 255),```
etc

[rocky blaze]

92

And so on

[limber veldt]

Right on

[magic jolt]

Got it, also thats an amazing idea pik4, I can just label them a color as "Shadow" or something for all my shadows

[runic saddle]

that is how pygame does theirs already, yea

https://github.com/pygame-community/pygame-ce/blob/main/src_py/colordict.py

[limber veldt]

Yeah, make your own dict is a good idea

[magic jolt]

👍

[rocky blaze]

Yea I set most things in game to 255

Only when the game is paused or in menu, do I have decrease the alpha

[magic jolt]

The game I'm planning on making is going to be "Greenscale" (I dont know if thats the correct term) but I'm trying to mimic those retro terminals/fallout 4's pipboy

so I'll probably be messing with alpha alot

[rocky blaze]

The best way to learn alpha is really with 3d shapes

Poly3DCollection

[runic saddle]

ah yes the classic terminal color pallet

[limber veldt]

pygame has some decent blendmodes too, for combining colors

[magic jolt]

So question, if I just wanted the button to be transparent with text. How do you acomplish that with the color pallete or is there a seperate command? (I'll probably want a graphic to take the place of the button color and just throw text on top of it)

[limber veldt]

Either import an image with alpha transparency or define a surface with the pygame.SRCALPHA, 32 flag and draw your button on it

[rocky blaze]

Pygame.time.get_ticks

[magic jolt]

if I wanted to get that old school random terminal flicker, should I do an import random paired with a delay and loop command or is there an easier way to accomplish that in pygames commands?

[limber veldt]

See this white circle that's supposed to be a ghost? I drew that on just a regular pygame Surface

I drew this one on a surface with alpha transparency

Using the pygame.SRCALPHA, 32 flags

[magic jolt]

👍

Also, the pygame.display.flip() command is listed as required but doesnt seem to say what it actually does in the notes I'm flipping through. Do I need to know anything about that or can I just call it required and not worry about it?

[rocky blaze]

I do pygame.display.update()

[limber veldt]

It just updates the screen, I don't worry much about it

update() varies in that it can take arguments for a specific rect of the screen to update, flip() updates the entire screen

I just do flip()

Most of the time

Or an empty update() (with no args)

I haven't had any projects to try out updating only part of the screen

[rocky blaze]

Eventually you might need pygame.time.wait() depending on the situation.

[limber veldt]

Games don't wait

[rocky blaze]

You could use pygame.time.wait(5000) when it’s game over and you want to wait 5 seconds to transition back to the menu setting

[limber veldt]

pygame has timers and userevents and ways to manage 'waiting' for things, I use my own Timer class most of the time, time.wait() blocks the entire game, no events, can't close the window, nothing during that time

[rocky blaze]

There a a few ways to use the timer in pygame

[limber veldt]

Do you know how to use delta time in your games?

[rocky blaze]

Every 10 seconds, first 10 seconds, and wait 10 seconds are what I generally use

[limber veldt]

Delta time is a timer

[rocky blaze]

I’m not sure how you manage your game, but usually for me, after I win a level in my game, I would just use screen.fill(black) and use the pygame.time.wait() to either transition to the next level, or go back to menu if I lose.

It’s a good way to just speedrun the game for me

[limber veldt]

Okay, but I'll just reiterate, most games don't wait or sleep or anything of the sort, they are always running their main loop, checking events and handling them

[pine plinth]

there is no point in checking the events a million times a second

if the game is don't with it's stuff for a frame, it goes to sleep until there is a need to handle the next frame/quantum of logic

otherwise game would consume a whole CPU core without doing much stuff

[rocky blaze]

The game doesn’t sleep of course, the screen.fill(black) usage is just to ensure the previous objects in that level are not visible throughout that short timeframe. And you’ll see that black screen for 5 seconds before moving on.

[robust egret]

enum so good

[vestal iron]

Any advice how to structure my code for game development? I suck ass at that. For things like Entities and Object i know how to seperate task and all, but i suck at passing elements of world to Entities and Objects or something like making a state machine that can change state from a state, at first i used someone else code and states had backreference to statemachines and somone sayed its bad. I want to make my own structure/framework but i dont know how to start

Maybe im just gonna go simple and make Enum class with all the states and handle them in main file

[limber veldt]

This is my basic main setup https://paste.pythondiscord.com/YBCQ ready to start game code. This is a small experiment built on that https://paste.pythondiscord.com/2GXA

[vestal iron]

Looks similar to my, so you dont have any kind of interfaces or context managers? Like letting statemachine handle things or having like RenderManager? For now im going simple since that what i know but ive seen people having they own class to render stuff and they just do like renderer.render('tree10', pos, etc, etc)

[limber veldt]

For a simple project like this, no, I don't use or need a state machine

[vestal iron]

In general do you have like base work framework you follow?

[limber veldt]

It only has one state, shoot at cursor

pygame.groups render all sprites inside, the group is doing the rendering there

Having a render handler is like my draw() method

Just draw the groups

And the groups draw their sprites

[limber veldt]

Like we don't see each bullet being drawn in the code, only the group, that's the benefit of pygame.groups

and sprites, for that matter

Because only pygame.sprites can be added to pygame.groups

[atomic jungle]

Hello all, not really on the subject of game development. Currently working on (just started) an automation project for an RTS game, if there's anyone with experience on this could they DM me please. Just some questions about planning and packages, thanks in advance. (If this request needs re-directed to another thread, please inform me as I know you will lol)

[rocky blaze]

I use render and blit specially for text images

[vestal iron]

its not what i meant, i didint meant the actuall functions, i rather meant a specific inteface that deals with that

[limber veldt]

I rarely manually blit anything, always use groups

That's what they're for

[rocky blaze]

I’ve only ever used this twice w/ time = pygame.time.get_ticks, where different text will appear for the first 2, 4, 6 seconds. But that’s just in the beginning of the level, similar to the text generated in Smash Hit.

[pine smelt]

theres prolly lots of issues with it by my method's really smooth brain

i quite literally pass in the Game instnace to every object

the game instance has the state loader in it

so i can access anything state specific within any entity

[vestal iron]

that is ok, i know many ways to do things im just very picky, got to fix that habit of mine

[rocky blaze]

Pass is great in pygame

For me, generally you use pass so all previous objects that are moving in a certain level remain stationary on the next.

Or if I don’t even want to see the objects, I just do object.clear()

[digital moth]

hello can someone help to do a jump button working when i try it doesn't work pls

[limber veldt]

I recently did a slightly different way, too. Giving an abstract class a class variable like level = None then, when level changes, set that variable to the new level and anything subclassed from it will have self.level attribute that references the level

So instead of passing the level to all objects that need a reference to it, it's stored in the class variable

[rocky blaze]

What game are you working on?

[digital moth]

Plateform game

[rocky blaze]

Ah like doodle jump

I dabbled in that a bit

[digital moth]

Something like that with gravity

[digital moth]

Could you help me ?

[keen flower]

how i can implement ninja dead but very simply manner preferably no additional spritesheet animation. i am just trying to learn game dev with simple start

[frank field]

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

[balmy pilot]

You really don't want to share your API keys

[white sonnet]

Oh, it's because I can't export it into exe

Or apk

[west prairie]

if your code requires an api key to run u should just tell the user to use their own api key

[balmy pilot]

I mean, like, get it from an environment variable so we can't just steal it

[white sonnet]

Oh oki

[radiant rapids]

You realize someone can just grab that API key and do whatever they want with it?

[bright plover]

🚨 You posted your token in your message. This means that your token has been compromised. Please change your token immediately 🚨

[west prairie]

or hide the api key behind a backend (overkill for this, but maybe when you're making something large it'll come in handy)

[radiant rapids]

@white sonnet Also this. You should delete that key right now and create a new one, and then not share it, or upload it anywhere (such as Github)

[digital moth]

why when i try to do a jump sytem in my game it doesn't work pls ?

[radiant rapids]

@white sonnet That is, you should delete the key from OpenRouter. Someone could have already copied it down while your message was up.

[white sonnet]

I deleted

[radiant rapids]

Good

You should typically load API keys from environment variables, using for example dotenv

[west prairie]

just double checking you deleted it from OpenRouter right?

[balmy pilot]

Can you show us what you've tried?

[white sonnet]

(Reposting the message with the .py file without my API key)
A Little text-based adventure game I made in PyDroid3 using the requests library & ChatGPT API, Basically it's a endless text-adventure game which you start another random adventure when you finish your adventure or when you closes the game & open it again, The game uses the ChatGPT API on OpenRouter for Creating new Stories & Adventures for you, So have fun, I will give the py file here (It required having the "requests" lib installed via pip3)

[west prairie]

yippee

[white sonnet]

So, if you want to try it, you need to install the requests library

[radiant rapids]

In your profile settings

Just to be super clear

[white sonnet]

Oh oki

I deleted my og api key

& created a new one for testing

[white sonnet]

If someone wants to test it

[radiant rapids]

Cool project

I tried similar things manually with ChatGPT quite a long time ago, and the result was kinda so-so. Maybe you can improve the structure and consistency of the result by scripting it like that.

[white sonnet]

Oh yeah, I can do it

[radiant rapids]

It'd probably work better with the newer models available nowadays as well.

[balmy pilot]

I wonder how different the results would be if you made each of these requests be part of the same "chat" with the LLM.

[white sonnet]

But it has a saving system if you type "salvar"

[radiant rapids]

his game aggregates the story for each response, so the model always has the whole context of the story. Isn't that basically how chats work?

[balmy pilot]

He's not posting the history back to the API each time though?

[white sonnet]

Yeah, he creates a continuation for the story using your choice as base

[radiant rapids]

He is

[balmy pilot]

Where am I missing that? Let me read it again.

[radiant rapids]

preguntar_ao_chatgpt passes historia for each call

[balmy pilot]

Oh I see mensagem is the full history not a single value

[radiant rapids]

No, it's a string

[balmy pilot]

Yeah, got it

[radiant rapids]

But it keeps appending the latest prompt and reply

[balmy pilot]

I guess this has a 'hard' context size limit vs. a longer chat progressively forgetting things

but up until that point it should work the same

[radiant rapids]

That's how it works with chatgpt as well

Or at least it did back in the day when I tried it

[balmy pilot]

Oh does it just cut you off? I thought it degraded more gracefully these days.

[radiant rapids]

The sessions would become more incoherent as it grew longer

[fervent lance]

The bot can still ignore/forget details though, even if you remind it on every message

[radiant rapids]

Well, this was quite a while ago

I'm not sure in what way it degrades

Or if that algorithm has changed

[radiant rapids]

Yeah, it's possible that it's different

[white sonnet]

I used openrouter api to integrate chatgpt, cuz openai api it's paid for a project like that, it's impossible make this work in free plan

[radiant rapids]

Maybe you could try to compress the log, by having the model summarize it or something

While keeping the most important instructions at the forefront

[white sonnet]

Oh yeah, it's a good alternative

[radiant rapids]

Like the game rules

[white sonnet]

Yeah, good suggestion

[digital moth]

hum ok

[balmy pilot]

Is it correct that there are only two directions? Isn't up/down a different axis?

[digital moth]

hum yeah ig

[balmy pilot]

Also shouldn't those be self.y += min(...)? Right now it just directly sets y, and presumably makes the character teleport?

[digital moth]

i replace it ?

[balmy pilot]

I guess I am not understanding your min() logic

[digital moth]

it is for that the character doesn't go ou of the screen

[balmy pilot]

OK so the play area is 240 pixels high and wide?

[digital moth]

yes

[balmy pilot]

I don't see anything obviously wrong in what you've shown then; what are the symptoms?

[digital moth]

like ?

[balmy pilot]

Like, does the character move at all?

[digital moth]

yes only when i press the right and left arrow

[balmy pilot]

OK then my guess is that you should look at where you're using the direction value

[digital moth]

don't really understand srry

[balmy pilot]

What is direction used for in your code?

[digital moth]

where does the character look at

[balmy pilot]

OK so it's just facing left vs. right, not used during movement etc?

and if you put a debug print statement in your if KEY_UP branch, it's happening?

[digital moth]

when pressed a button i goes and look where he go

[digital moth]

What do you mean by "it's happening ?"

[balmy pilot]

print("This is happening") and you see that message

[digital moth]

something like this ?

[balmy pilot]

Yeah

[balmy pilot]

OK, so it's getting called. What might be going on that setting self.y (which doesn't need to be +=, what you had before seems fine) isn't taking effect sometimes?

It doesn't seem like the problem is in THIS code

[rocky blaze]

Normally, if you want rot reverse direction, you do, direction *= -1

It means that if your direction is originally going right, it’ll go the opposite direction after a condition

But it’s completely different what you’re doing because you’re just setting up the keys

[digital moth]

bruh

[digital moth]

yeah

[rocky blaze]

For those, I usually put the directions in Numpy arrays

[balmy pilot]

Are you sure you're always calling the necessary function to render updates to the screen?

[rocky blaze]

Right = np.array([1, 0])

[balmy pilot]

Does python accept those spaces after def draw? I didn't expect that to be valid.

[digital moth]

Yeah i think

[balmy pilot]

What you have looks fine to me, though it's pretty brute-force in that it redraws everything per-tick, but it should at least work. No idea, sorry.

Never used pyxel myself, maybe there's something someone else can see.

[digital moth]

on same thing yesterday aswell

can't solve it

[balmy pilot]

What happens if you try to also modify self.y in one of the things that IS working?

e.g. KEY_LEFT

[digital moth]

it does not move

[balmy pilot]

Interesting. So something is different about y, vs. x.

[rocky blaze]

What you could also do toggle between keys and mouse

I used mouse more often than none to control self

[digital moth]

how do i do ?

[digital moth]

x working but y not working

[limber veldt]

Try a velocity based movement, where your keypresses affect velocity and velocity is added to player position each frame

[digital moth]

how do i do that

[limber veldt]

In quite short pseudo code py def update(self): self.vel.x = 0 self.vel.y = 0 if key_right: self.vel.x = 1 elif key_left: self.vel.x = -1 if key_up: self.vel.y = -1 elif key_down: self.vel.y = 1 self.x += self.vel.x self.y += self.vel.y

[limber veldt]

So you can control self.vel.y with your jump key and multiply it by something close to but not quite 1.0 to simulate gravity

That is not exact code, I can't walk you through it but maybe you can look up some velocity based player movement in a tutorial, that's why I said pseude code, not for actual use

[rocky blaze]

I do pygame.mos.get_pos()

[limber veldt]

I've never used pyxel

[rocky blaze]

To use mouse for control

[digital moth]

bruh

does someone use pyxel or used to use it ?

thx for trying to help me @balmy pilot @rocky blaze @limber veldt

[balmy pilot]

Yeah, sorry that I couldn't spot the problem. I guess keep adding debug output; show the result of your 'y' calculation and make sure it matches what you expect?

[digital moth]

ok i'll try

[rocky blaze]

Np. Unfortunately there’s not much I could do to help you. My advice is to struggle through your game. Know what’s wrong and right. And learn as you go.

[digital moth]

Do I maybie go on pygame for more options ?

[white sonnet]

hello ppl, i updated the github repo from my game & i added a Linux Build on Releases page (coming soon for Windows) + i added a menu on the game too https://github.com/smiluredev/TheAdventureQuest

well, now the player needs a OpenRouter API Key to play the game (for avoid overcharging my API Key on Open Router)

[white sonnet]

plus, i made an itch.io page https://miguelthedrmr.itch.io/the-adventure-quest[

[raven kernel]

damn that's pretty cool actually

[restive zephyr]

What are you doing this with ? It's not Pygame (I'm a beginner)

[scarlet reef]

PyGame, Numba, PyGLM, moderngl

[restive zephyr]

I didn't know you could make 3D games with Pygame.

[rocky blaze]

You could, but it’s easier just to do 2D games

The point in doing pygame is to get better in Python in general

[hollow horizon]

im pretty sure one time i misspelled my variable to a different one and the game crashed and would'nt quit

[ashen compass]

how do you prevent people from possibly stealing/copying your game/code?

[vagrant saddle]

for code use nuitka or mypyc, game you can't prevent : just slow down ( and loose time/money doing that instead of making a better product people will gladly buy)

[pine smelt]

are nuitka and mypyc just compilers?

[carmine escarp]

i am looking dev

[round obsidian]

!rule hire please remove this post at your earliest convenience. we are not a job recruiting board.

[frank field]

Rules

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

[raven kernel]

working on a movement shooter game for the pygame community game jam

[slow copper]

sweat

[cinder hound]

Hello, I'm a game devleoper, and I'm looking for new project to earn money

[slow copper]

i love money

[long hare]

Anyone making Pygame games on android ..?

[vagrant saddle]

webview or native ?

[long hare]

Native

[silver thorn]

Ik this ain't the server for kolin but I need help making a app thats in kotlin its for mcpe

[balmy pilot]

Wild idea, kinda want to build a clone now https://onemillionchessboards.com/

[cloud silo]

Hi. I need help to create a script in Python. Some of the code is already there, but I can't understand one logic. This script concerns one browser game, where the same actions are repeated.

[balmy pilot]

Can you show the code that you haven't understood yet?

[tired reef]

How can I change the name of panda 3DS window?

[balmy pilot]

A super old answer I see online says:

from pandac.PandaModules import WindowProperties

props = WindowProperties()
props.setTitle('My Window')
base.win.requestProperties(props)
``` be warned, some of that may have changed. I've been meaning to try P3D but haven't yet.

[tired reef]

It has changed and thank you for your help

[quick stirrup]

hello people

class Controller:
    def __init__(self, speed, transform, keys: tuple[str, str, str, str]):
        self.speed = speed
        self.transform = transform
        self.name = "controller"
        self.keys = keys

    def execute(self):
        if keyboard.is_pressed(self.keys[0]):
            self.transform.y += self.speed
        elif keyboard.is_pressed(self.keys[1]):
            self.transform.y -= self.speed
        if keyboard.is_pressed(self.keys[2]):
            self.transform.x -= self.speed
        elif keyboard.is_pressed(self.keys[3]):
            self.transform.x += self.speed
        self.transform.x = max(0, min(self.transform.x, winWidth - self.transform.size))
        self.transform.y = max(0, min(self.transform.y, winHeight - self.transform.size))
        ```

created this beast

[whole garnet]

I think keys should be a dict instead of a tuple

[quick stirrup]

maybe

[maiden canyon]

Bro this section for pygame?

[limber veldt]

Not specifically but often

[dawn quiver]

can some one help me convert a file from .py to .exe??? i am only asking becasuse i cant use any admin on my laptop which makes it so that i cant use pip at all 😦 so if anybody could convert it for me that would be rly helpful

[hearty tapir]

If you add -u to the pip command like pip install package -u or something it might be able to install it for you for your specific account without being an admin.

[dawn quiver]

i alr tried and it didnt work but thank you

[hearty tapir]

Maybe you can reinstall python but just for this user account you're on then find a way to work and use that version? What you do at installation time might be able to smooth this and you might be able to change which version the py command uses.

[crude drift]

✋

[lone halo]

Right, so. I dont wanna use Pygame, can i use any other thing

[modern flint]

Is that VR? With Python? Very cool

[weak lake]

What library are you using for it ?

[foggy python]

ModernGL, Pygame, GLFW, PyOpenXR, and PyOpenAL.

[weak lake]

Thanks 😃

[devout gorge]

Is it opensource

[foggy python]

An old version of it is, but the game is multiplayer now.
https://github.com/DaFluffyPotato/pyvr-example

[grave inlet]

text-rpg combat system w.i.p

[modern flint]

Nice!

[river skiff]

im not sure if this is the right channel for this but i just started learning python and i made a pink pantheress quiz game if anyone would like to try it out or check out the code and give feedback that would be really awesome

[frank field]

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

[cerulean nimbus]

keep up the work 💪

[wooden night]

Does anyone does pygame?

[vagrant saddle]

i prefer pygame-ce instead of pygame

[limber veldt]

Yeah, pygame-ce rocks

[wooden night]

What is pygame - ce?

[somber vine]

Very interesting, can you describe what it supposed to be ? it's cool

[wooden nacelle]

hi guys i want to make a good/fun game to play can someoen maybe help me making it im not verrry good at python codeing and want to learn about it!?

[cerulean nimbus]

its the comunity edition of pygame

[opaque quest]

I just made a basic python tic tac Toe bot

It's not impressive and the code is a mess but I'm just starting out

[river skiff]

its a trivia game if you run it it it asks you questions and if you answer it correctly you get points added to your overall score and in the end it tells you your overall score

[river skiff]

it’s really cool man how long have you been coding for?

[wooden night]

How could I download it?

[cerulean nimbus]

pip install pygame-ce also if you had pygame install already do pip uninstall pygame to avoid conflicts

[wooden night]

Ok thx

Do u know about pyinstaller to make your game from .py to .exe?

[cerulean nimbus]

yes what about it ?

[wooden night]

I have troble to convert it after creating my game in pygame(vs studio)

[cerulean nimbus]

what is the trouble

[wooden night]

It giving errors of saying not having pip installed but I do I have it intalled and when ever I try to use pyinstaller it always results in package not made

[cerulean nimbus]

show me the error ?

[wooden night]

I don't have my computer so I'll show it latter today

[cerulean nimbus]

oki

just ping me when

[wooden night]

Sure

[wooden night]

@cerulean nimbus I don’t have my comp yet.. but his is the error Traceback (most recent call last):
File "racing_game.py", line 244, in <module>
File "racing_game.py", line 217, in main_menu
File "classdef.py", line 90, in file_read_write
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'highscore.txt'

its when i open the files.exe

do u want the code too

[cerulean nimbus]

ooooh

its because when you make your exe

the file doesnt get transfered with it

so make it so that first check if it exists and if not to make the file before you try to write to it

[opaque quest]

Oh thanks, I started 3 months ago

[wooden night]

There is a file called highscore in the same folder as the .py file but it’s just not registring i

i even made it so it creates a new folder with every thing but still not… here check the code

It works just fine if it’s runs from vs studio directly

[cerulean nimbus]

are you talking about the exe or the py with the error

[wooden night]

.exe

heres the code

[frank field]

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

[wooden night]

for classdef

this is where the files are found

i just took a break for the pygame,pyimstaller and took a break now

[cerulean nimbus]

yes its because your exe doesnt compile the highscore with him

[wooden night]

ya but when i compiled it, i made sure to make a temp folder for every addons

in the exe file

[cerulean nimbus]

lets say your folderstructure is like this

-> src -> ....
-> bin -> exe
highscore.txt
main.py
```when running the exe the folder where the exe is is your new directory

[wooden night]

wait

its

[wooden night]

How to get that window?

[cerulean nimbus]

!code

[frank field]

Formatting code on Discord

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[cerulean nimbus]

but instead of py i used e

[wooden night]

!code

[wooden night]

what is e

the directry is:

pics folder

musicfolder

racinggame.py

classdef.py

highscore.txt

python 3.313

[cerulean nimbus]

ooh my bad thought it was a txt that wasnt getting exported

[wooden night]

And also the exe file works fine if its in the folder with highscore.txt

[cerulean nimbus]

make sure when running your pyinstaller to say what folder to check for .py files or manually put them in

[wooden night]

opps it txt. not py

[wooden night]

But if I put it in any other folder it just stops working gives this error

[cerulean nimbus]

yes cause the exe expects there to be one

[wooden night]

ya but i add the txt file to the temp folder with pics and music

[cerulean nimbus]

cause your probably doing

with open("./highscore.txt", r): ...
```without checking if it exists

[wooden night]

so i add a error check in the function , if filenotfound error?

[cerulean nimbus]

yes and if not found just create a new one

[wooden night]

Oh ok, that actually helped a lot thx

[river skiff]

that’s impressive

[opaque quest]

Thanks a lot
For a college student constantly thinking that I'm wasting my life, that means a lot

[grand delta]

hello. i need help with my AIFOOTBALL GAME. can someone help me :((((

i have competition tomorrow. i need emergency help

[dawn quiver]

Dude

I honestly don't know about game dev things much

But you can take help from deepseek and ChatGPT

You can frame the basic architecture from ChatGPT then after further refinement use deepseek to add more details

[limber veldt]

Warning, mind your volume! Siren and pew pew sounds, my latest retro remake

[modern flint]

Cool! I used to love asteroids! Your version has power ups too, nice
I have to say though, the sound effect that gets faster and faster towards the end of the level is kind of strange and unpleasant, it sounds almost like someone is starting to say a word and then abruptly stops? I don't know how to describe it
Sorry if you weren't looking for feedback, just looks like a great remake except for this one detail

[limber veldt]

It departs slightly from the original in a couple of ways, it has a shield and the particle effects

The original game had the duts

So I put them in

[modern flint]

Oooh I see
I think I played the original without sound so I don't remember it lol

[limber veldt]

I think a few other games had them too

Centipede?

Space invaders

I think mine are too loud

And maybe too fast, the tempo starts slower

Nope, Centipede just had the constant annoying machine beeping

[modern flint]

The particle effects are really nice though, I feel like they fit the sound of asteroids exploding very well

[limber veldt]

Space invaders was similar, slightly different tone

Space invaders got so fast toward the end of a level that it almost becomes one sound

Refering to game play vids over here

[modern flint]

Oh that sounds horrible to me

[limber veldt]

They only had 8 bit synthetic sounds, I suppose they tried a lot

[modern flint]

Yeah that makes sense

[limber veldt]

I set their volume quite low, still there but not so annoying

[fading nebula]

Hello there, i'm making a python game by myself and need some help as it's getting quite a mess since it's my first project and as it's getting bigger and bigger...

[dawn quiver]

What's wrong with it 😭

[prime kernel]

This gives me the data wing vibes tbh, I'm loving it

Keep the work up bro

[shut tulip]

Everything. What's the benefit of doing things like that? You got a roughly working game that you didn't make. You didn't learn anything, you won't play it much. You will not earn any money with that neither. Not talking about energy consuption, data centers usage etc...

[dawn quiver]

#vibecoding and at least he would be able to submit something

If he would do that perfectly then it could be the best game created in a short span of time

And then he could think to add better new ideas in that game rather than focusing on coding part

(BTW I AM NOT ARGUING, JUST SHOWING UP MY THOUGHTS )

[shut tulip]

Yeah, that's called having a talk. Fine by me 😁

[shut tulip]

It is a school submission ? I didn't get that so I understand better, even if the point of school is... to learn

[dawn quiver]

What u would learn when u have just 12 hrs to complete s d submit

Else u will fail

[shut tulip]

That's a shitty assignement indeed

[patent bluff]

Hey everyone ik this isnt really a game but i cant think of wehre else to put it, but for a school project ive been coding this orbit simulator in python, and I want to do this tracker like in spaceflight simulator or other simulators that shows the trajectory, but ive only been able to get trails working and whenever i try implement a projectile tracker or wahtever you can call it it just flickers like crazy and doesnt fill the whole circle anyway Im bad at explaining so maybe someone can run the code and you can see for yourself. ive attached it here if anyone could give some help thatd be awesome

[frank field]

Please react with ✅ to upload your file(s) to our paste bin, which is more accessible for some users.

[ashen compass]

I made a bit of progress on a game in tkinter and than someone recommended me to build a game in pyside6 but I've never used pyside6 before and when i tried converting it I ran into a lot of problems basically what I'm asking is if it's worth it to convert to pyside6 or stick with tkinter?

[modern flint]

If you describe your game and why you feel tkinter doesn't satisfy your requirements, people will probably be able to give better answers
But most people here seem to just use pygame-ce
Is there a specific reason you're using a GUI library like tkinter for your game instead of a game library?

[ashen compass]

the best way i can describe it is it's like pokemon chess, there are two 5 by 5 boards each with 5 elements and you click on them and than click on a blank square to move them and each element has a ranged attack to attack enemy elements and each element has buffs or debuss against enemy elements

I'll show a video

the only game library I know is pygame and that library seems to be made to make 2d platformers or something like that

[modern flint]

pygame can be used for other types of games too (just make sure to install pygame-ce, it's maintained better than regular pygame). There's also pyglet and arcade, I don't remember others
But for a turn-based game like this a GUI library can probably work fine.
Are there any specific problems you have with tkinter?

[ashen compass]

Not with tkinter but converting my code to pyside6

I’m newer to pyside6 and where I am right now I can’t move an element and the colors won’t show up

[modern flint]

Ah, I have no experience with pyside6
Maybe post your code and say what your specific problems are and someone will help, also you may want to ask in #user-interfaces
People there are more likely to have experience with pyside6 I'm guessing

[ashen compass]

Ok thanks for helping

[grave inlet]

made a silly little grid map with player movements

can detect walls and outer edge of the grid map

[frank field]

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

[woven pier]

How recommended is making a web game with python?

[thin gulch]

fine unless you're trying to do realtime simulation on backend, then questionable

[woven pier]

you mean online games

?

[vagrant saddle]

it is ideal for participating in game jams see https://itch.io/c/2563651/pygame-wasm

anyone can run, guaranteed virus free

[shut tulip]

Okay for games that do not requires much performance

[vagrant saddle]

Panda3D web is very performant, most of heavy math is offloaded to C++ so python is just fine

[fading nebula]

Anyone know a lib to easely make good looking ui and box for the terminal ?

as I'm doing them manualy for each one with differents shapes with "║" and it's really long..

[vagrant saddle]

rich and Textual from https://www.textualize.io/

[fading nebula]

thanks

[quaint rain]

help me please

how can i get pygame screens to work on github? i have pygame installed on my github repository?

[vagrant saddle]

yuou need to add a CI to your project

[quaint rain]

a CI?

[vagrant saddle]

see here https://pygame-web.github.io/wiki/publishing/github.io/

and an example https://github.com/pmp-p/pygame-breakout-wasm/

[quaint rain]

i click on the download pygbag file and it doesnt download?

[vagrant saddle]

paste the yml code in your code editor, or right click smthing like "save as" in the browser

[quaint rain]

there is no code?

name: pygbag_build
on: [workflow_dispatch]

jobs:
build-pygbag:
name: Build for Emscripten pygbag runtime
runs-on: ubuntu-latest

steps:
- uses: actions/checkout@v2
- name: Checkout
  run: |
        python -m pip install pygbag
        python -m pygbag --build $GITHUB_WORKSPACE/main.py
- name : "Upload to GitHub pages branch gh-pages"
  uses: JamesIves/github-pages-deploy-action@4.1.7
  with:
    branch: gh-pages
    folder: build/web

this is what shows up

[vagrant saddle]

you can get it from there https://github.com/pmp-p/pygame-breakout-wasm/blob/main/.github/workflows/pygbag.yml

[vagrant saddle]

what is your project github url ?

[quaint rain]

can you vc?

[vagrant saddle]

not actually but you can find more help on pygame-ce discord i'll ping you there

[robust egret]

pretty cool, what would you do when you know about msvcrt.getch() it could make the game feel more smoother (assuming you are on windows)

there is better ways of doing the nasty if's

[woven ruin]

Broo

[left cradle]

Is there a programmer / someone here that I can help with Python integration?

[vagrant saddle]

integrate into what ? (also do not offer any money it would be against rules )

[grave inlet]

Is that a way to get user key inputs?

[robust egret]

yes

[grave inlet]

oh neat

[grave inlet]

would love to learn how to reduce my if staircases

[robust egret]

the only issue that it's system depended you could check this thread, it has cross plathform way of doing it tho it's a bit advanced, I recommend to not overthink it and just use msvcrt.getch for now
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/510357/how-to-read-a-single-character-from-the-user

[robust egret]

in this case, you could take the high and width of the map and validate if the player is going to go out of bound by checking if the position is bigger than the height/witdh and for the walls, just include the statement in the parent if using and example: elif direction == 'right' and grid_map[y_axis][x_axis+1] != 'o':

this is a minimal solution

would love to see the result of your code after those tips

[spring zealot]

Love ur pronouns

[sly surge]

I'm looking for ganedevs to connect with

[silver spear]

Same I’m trying to learn pygame but I don’t really find motivation considering that when I learn stuff I’m alone all the time 🙂

[ionic flame]

pygame.draw.rect(screen, (21, 32, 82), (0, 237, 600, 25))
pygame.draw.rect(screen, (21, 32, 82), (237, 0, 25, 600))

How would I make this at a 45* angle?

[dawn quiver]

Please does anyone use pyglet

[limber veldt]

You can't draw rectangles at angles but you can draw a rectangle on a pygame.Surface and rotate that

Then of course, draw the surface instead of a rectangle

[ionic flame]

well, someone in the pygame server with like 395 thousand less members in it responded to me like 2 hours ago so like, thanks but yeah

[silver spear]

My chat is off so you can ask me if you want me to request dms

And for the text there sure 👍

[raven kernel]

where do people get this incentive that programming servers are mainly meant for helping them as fast as possible, and that these servers care about how quickly their members are helped

their "members" are not precious people of the guild, they are just passerbys discussing the topic of interest

[ionic flame]

I know

[limber veldt]

"I don't even know what that is"

[rocky estuary]

does someone use pygame to write games? can someone help me using it.

please

[little heart]

New to the server, python and pygame(downloading it today) but I think you're in the right spot. Might help get an answer if you let people know your issue.

[formal phoenix]

i use pygame

[lost zenith]

Hi everyone, I'm exploring different domains in python. I have a good knowledge of python , django , numpy and pandas. What would be the best way to start developing games using python??

[vagrant saddle]

well 2D pygame-ce , 3D Panda3D are good start. Fallback to godot if you are lost

[cerulean nimbus]

just a random question wasnt there a plugin for godot for python scripts how is that going along?

[vagrant saddle]

no idea and imho anyway all script engines in godot should run inside a wasm sandbox

[regal scroll]

if anyone has any experience with Ursina engine, i have 2 entities with shapes and colliders but they arnt well, colliding...

[tired reef]

In panda3D how do I make it so I can use awsd to control the cameras direction

[regal scroll]

if there is one join the panda3d discord

[stuck sedge]

Hello can someone help with code? the card stack doesn't work. What I should to do? Can someone edit this or tell me? I will be grateful ^^

[frank field]

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

[slow briar]

yo does anyone know why i have this error occuring

something to do with lists, and geeks or stack weren't any help

yea nevermind

lets hope no one is ever this dumb

[modern flint]

You're trying to use [1] as a dictionary key. Dictionary keys must be hashable and [1] isn't because it's a list
You could change it to (1) (a tuple instead of a list) or something else hashable

[slow briar]

just realized

tried using lua syntax

[boreal lynx]

😦

[dawn quiver]

Can someone make 'Ninja warrior' like game using pygame?

[hearty ether]

@stuck sedge I fix your python code check your massage

[formal phoenix]

is it 2d or 3d?

[dawn quiver]

it is 2d. search online

[formal phoenix]

check dm

[dawn quiver]

Can you guys please check it I am complete beginner

[frank field]

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

[pine smelt]

should work fine from what i can tell looking at it

i'd avoid using sys.exit() in this situation just use a flag

flag = True
while flag:
    printx("Do you want to play 'Guess The Number' Game?")
    agreement = input("(Yes or no?): ").lower()

    if agreement == 'yes':
        start_game()
    elif agreement == 'no':
        printx('bye')
        flag = False
    else:
        printx("Please Type (Yes or no). ")

also worth making ur indentations and whitespacing more consistent just for readability

[open plover]

(or break)

[cerulean nimbus]

In some cases a flag is better

Cause sometimes you still want it to finish the loop

[halcyon beacon]

Looking for a guy who knows programming, more specifically Python, in DM please, urgently

[devout idol]

anyone have any experience with pygame or similar 3d game tools

[devout idol]

ik you probably need an actual experienced person and not a recommendation but

Coding for beginners by Mike McGrath is a great book

[pine smelt]

pygame(-ce) isnt really a natively 3d tool?

[tired reef]

Look for panda 3D server it's still python but it's 3D

[formal phoenix]

whats the best way of making a 3d maze game?

[slow copper]

first make a 2d maze and protrude it to make it 3d lol

[formal phoenix]

i know how to make 2d maze games

but 3d is harder for me

[slow copper]

what have you tried

[lucid grotto]

how can i use images from a sprite sheet on pygame?

like, all this time im having to cut my sprite sheet for all images, and add one by one on pygame, and use image.load. How can i utilize sprite sheet and select the image i want to use, or even do an animation?

[shut tulip]

You can load a big image an then take subsurfaces

[limber veldt]

I find it easier to edit images in an image editor than to cut them up in code

I use subsurface for things but not cropping images

I think set_clip() and get_clip() can be used too, I haven't used them much though

[cerulean nimbus]

yes i think you can but i use set_clip and get_clip more if i want to have a surface like a window that have there own (0,0) -> (x, y) dimensions

but it would be able to be used for editing images

also @limber veldt (sorry for the ping) but how is your game coming along where you go from room to room ?

[honest drift]

https://sphinixx.itch.io/infestation made a pre-release development page on itch.io, check it out if you like 🙂

[limber veldt]

I've pretty much given up on the issues with that project and moved on unfortunately, maybe some day I'll come back to it

Just too much pain in the ass to serialize objects

[limber veldt]

Working on this one lately. I've done this game before but this one is a remake. Here I'm showing how the editor works. Run editor, edit and save the file, load game, play newly edited map

[modern flint]

Nice!

[limber veldt]

Thanks, made it really easy to create maps so the game has both the original game maps and those of the tournament edition, 32 more maps for a total of 64

I need a way for the ball to know if it gets stuck in a repeating pattern though

In the original game, any time the ball repeats the same pattern for more than ten or so times, it will automatically change its direction vector

Oh I know what I could do...put a timer on the deltas between paddle hits, if that timer gets too high, the ball is probably stuck in a pattern

It gets stuck a lot in the original game but always finds a new direction

Watching the gameplay vids for references, I saw it many times

That's also why the NPCs are important, they help deflect the ball and add some level of randomness to it

[limber veldt]

Or maybe even better, a hit counter that increments for each block hit and resets when it hits the paddle, when the counter gets too high, find a new direction

[limber veldt]

Yeah, that's the way to do it

If it hits a gold block, increment counter

Otherwise, reset it

Gold blocks are indestructible, the only blocks that can cause the ball to get stuck in a pattern

[cerulean nimbus]

aww sad to hear it was a really nice project

[frank field]

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

[spring zealot]

testing loading textures and level dat files

only works with file path setup and i cant post a rar but it works all together

---

-3111111111111111111115-
-3444444444444444444445-
-3444444444444444444445-
-3444444444444444444445-
-3444444444444444444445-
-3444444444444444444445-
-3444444444444444444445-
-3444444444444444444445-
-3444444444444444444445-
-3444444444444444444445-
-6777777777777777777778-

---

this is the dat file loaded

texture data and the dat in the collider file has just collider data witch i havent added in the code yet

[proper garden]

have you guys tried to use mapbox as game map? 🙂

i got an idea that im gonna try out, if it works, it should be pretty sweet

[wooden night]

can anyone help me with the A* path finding?

[chrome hull]

Super cool to see gamepad support for Python
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fXLB5_F2rg

[vapid orchid]

I'm trying to make a text-based game and I need to show a variable name along with the number that correlates with it (Ex.: ("variable 1:", variable_1), "Variable 2:" variable_2) but when I do this it give me an error indicating that it expected at least 1 argument but got six. How do I fix this?
Full code:
import time
import sys

def slow_type(text, speed=0.1):
for char in text:
sys.stdout.write(char)
sys.stdout.flush()
time.sleep(speed)
print() # Add a newline at the end

slow_type("A wild Lucario appeared!\n""Go, Venasaur!")
Lucario_Health = 207
Bulbasaur_Health = 236
solar_pp = 16
whip_pp = 16
sleep_pp = 24
while Lucario_Health > 0:
Choice = input("What do you do?\n""Fight - Run - Bag - Stats")
if Choice == "stats":
print("Lucario health:", Lucario_Health)
print("Venasaur health:", Bulbasaur_Health)
if Choice == "fight":
Fight = input("Solar Beam; PP:", solar_pp, "Power Whip; PP:", whip_pp, "Sleep Powder; PP:", sleep_pp)

[wooden night]

Try using f string

For ex. print(f"health: {health_var}")

[formal phoenix]

i can give you mt text game

and you can rework it

[vapid orchid]

Problem solved, thank you though!

[formal phoenix]

still wana try it?

its not perfect but its working

[vapid orchid]

I prefer to make my codes myself, but thank you though!

[spring zealot]

F string my beloved

Constructing file path so easy with holy f string

[pine smelt]

theres a path finding library with A* if thats useful

think its literally just called pathfinding

https://pypi.org/project/pathfinding/

[limber veldt]

Also the excellent articles on the subject over at redblobgames

[wooden night]

Yes, I know I am currently using it for my project

But I want to understand the code

So if am working on pathfinding i could use my own

But is there any other easier pathfinding algorithems?

[pine smelt]

other than a direct vector from A to B id say its the easiest

theres dijkstra too but thats basically the same algorithm

[limber veldt]

I wouldn't say I know it but have played with it a few times, a* is fun once you start understanding it

Currently working on powerups for Arkanoid. It turns out that they do randomly spawn from broken blocks but there can be only one on screen at a time. Also, there is no lifetime of powerup effects, they're permanent until you get another powerup

With one exception that I've noticed so far...the slow powerup, which slows the ball speed, runs out as soon as the ball hits the top border of the play area

[modern flint]

Interesting, I barely remember any details about how that game works

[limber veldt]

Yeah, same here but some articles I read mentioned some of these details

I'd love to find a disassembly of the original rom, written in z80 assembly I think

[cerulean nimbus]

wait isnt arkanoid the look-a-like game of breakout ?

[limber veldt]

They were both block breakers but not at all the same game or even look alike

[grave inlet]

couldnt get msvcrt to install so i just used readchar. The code itself aint much but a neat little prototype for choosing options in a text rpg game

[frank field]

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[robust egret]

can't wait to try this out also sorry for not mentioning that msvcrt is a builtin module

I assumed you would search it up and find out

if you are comfortable with using third party libraries, checkout rich or/and textual pretty awesome libraries for cli based UI's

dope script though

[grave inlet]

https://talyian.github.io/ansicolors/
i personally just use this one to make some sort of tiny library to make the ui look fancy

[formal phoenix]

i like my 3d maze game progress so far. for a beginner its pretty good

[wooden night]

This is pygame right?

[wooden night]

I don't want it to go through the wall

I did try to make one pathfinding, if touching wall then move right ot left

[hearty marten]

I heared about other 3d library for games

[wooden night]

But it got stuck on the corners bouncing there

[wooden night]

Example

[hearty marten]

I don't know the name

Wiat a moment

[wooden night]

I thing one is called Voxel

Maybe

[hearty marten]

Panda3D

It seems

[wooden night]

How does it work

?

[hearty marten]

Idk

https://www.panda3d.org/

[wooden night]

Oh man

[hearty marten]

I only heared about it

[wooden night]

The picture looks amazing

Let me check this out

It has crossplatform

[hearty marten]

Yes

Literally is the first time i enter in the web

Just i will drop a procedural generation system if anyone wants it (works like the img)

[frank field]

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

[cerulean nimbus]

i love doing procedural generation

i made one with perlin noise and neighbour weights

like a combo

[slow copper]

The one he's using is called Ursina

It's a game engine for python

It's built on panda3d iirc

[limber veldt]

New paddle explode sequence, maaaybe slightly overdone with the flash but the I like the pieces

A lot of time for something that appears on screen for a quarter second

Or so

And the animation, I think it needs another shrapnel frame at the end and maybe tone down the flash

[grim abyss]

did you create this?

[limber veldt]

Yeah

[grim abyss]

cool! can you do characters/enemy sprites too ?

[limber veldt]

If I have a good design, I suck at designing

[grim abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/metroid-16bit-pixel-samus-aran-planet-gif-4862395

[limber veldt]

That paddle has a few animations

[grim abyss]

yeah 6 i believe

[limber veldt]

To and from extended and laser, and a spawning animation, along with the explode, six total yeah

[grim abyss]

what program did you use to illustrate the paddle sprite sheet ?

[limber veldt]

Gimp

[grim abyss]

lol of course 😄

[limber veldt]

Yeah, it works, it's a little quirky but I'm getting used to it

[grim abyss]

do you have a github ?

[limber veldt]

No, I should make one to share these things

[grim abyss]

yeah you should.

are you using git though with your projects?

[limber veldt]

Nah

They're small enough, easy to manage

[grim abyss]

you're not using anything? so you have no code history 🤷‍♂️

[limber veldt]

The history of some of this code isn't worth saving, lol

[grim abyss]

yeah some i'm sure but I've seen a bit of your stuff you have posted on here and some of it
is cool

[limber veldt]

Well thanks, maybe some day

[grim abyss]

you're pretty experienced with pygame-ce ?

[limber veldt]

I think so, yeah

Been doing it on and off for eight years or so

[grim abyss]

i should try my hand at a simple lil Castlevania clone

need art though 😦

[limber veldt]

Yeah you should, have you made games before, can do sprites and stuff?

[grim abyss]

i've made basic stuff. tetris clones and such. nothing I would show off lol

[limber veldt]

Well, you already have a headstart on a lil castlevania

[grim abyss]

honestly I've never tried to create a sprite.
illustration isn't my strong suite

[limber veldt]

I get that, I struggle with it too

[grim abyss]

I've thought about using AI to create the sprites/art but it's
such a pain getting the AI to go in the direction I want it to

[limber veldt]

I write all my code with a little google help now and then

[grim abyss]

yeah I write 90% of my code

[limber veldt]

I can't say it's always well written but whatever, it works

[grim abyss]

i know that's right lol

[hearty marten]

god, how was the result?

[spring zealot]

How do I share a zip or rar here?

[hearty marten]

Idk

[spring zealot]

nvm

https://github.com/fagcoding/untitled-game

code

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[formal phoenix]

no

[formal phoenix]

its ursina

[wooden night]

What is that?

[spring zealot]

Game engine

[wooden night]

Like unity or unreal engine?

[spring zealot]

Idk never used it

I think so tho

[tired reef]

How can I make an engine without any bugs/exploits?

[wooden night]

Play test with as many people and make them fill a servey if there are any bugs

Also try to push the engine to its limit

[formal phoenix]

wana try my game?

[wooden night]

Ya sure

[tired reef]

So a 3D model

[wooden night]

??

[tired reef]

So let me know a 3D software how can I make it so that it doesn't have any glitches you know with collisions etc because I want to train in a night the real world and if I want to have that also help me with tasks I need to have it so it can move in a 3D space to grab parts that might be on the other side of the room or to pick something up from the mailbox

[tired reef]

...

[wooden night]

Now that I don't know

I mean, I think the best way is only play testing many times with diff people

[formal phoenix]

im sending soon in dm

[wooden night]

Sure

[formal phoenix]

check dm whenever

[vital hamlet]

Anybody make full retro game projects using Tkinter before?

[wooden night]

Where is the project 😢

[wooden night]

no, what is Tkinter

[wooden night]

NVM

[loud lynx]

Hi, I am using pygame to write my game and need to draw text onto the screen.

I created a custom Text class as such:

class Text():
    def __init__(self, center_coords: IntFloatTuple, text: str, rotation: int, size: int) -> None:
        self.center: IntFloatTuple = center_coords
        self.text: str = text
        self.rotation: int = rotation
        self.size = size
    
    def draw(self, screen: pygame.Surface, color: str) -> None:
        text_font = pygame.font.SysFont("0xprotonerdfontmono", self.size)
        text = text_font.render(self.text, True, color)
        text = pygame.transform.rotate(text, self.rotation)
        text_rect = text.get_rect(center = self.center)
        screen.blit(text, text_rect)```

Is there a way with this or another set up to draw text over multiple lines? When I blit the text, \n is interpreted as unknown character and is drawn as a box

[formal phoenix]

well in Pygame, the render method doesn’t support \n for multiline text—it treats it as an unknown character (like a box). To handle multiline text, you need to split your text string by \n and render each line individually. Here’s a quick update to your Text class to support this:

class Text():
def init(self, center_coords, text, rotation, size):
self.center = center_coords
self.text = text
self.rotation = rotation
self.size = size

def draw(self, screen, color):
    text_font = pygame.font.SysFont("0xprotonerdfontmono", self.size)
    lines = self.text.split('\n')
    line_height = text_font.get_height()
    total_height = line_height * len(lines)
    start_y = self.center[1] - total_height // 2 + line_height // 2

    for i, line in enumerate(lines):
        rendered_line = text_font.render(line, True, color)
        rendered_line = pygame.transform.rotate(rendered_line, self.rotation)
        text_rect = rendered_line.get_rect(center=(self.center[0], start_y + i * line_height))
        screen.blit(rendered_line, text_rect)

[formal phoenix]

hope that help

[loud lynx]

aaah thats nice, thanks

[shut tulip]

I think pygame-ce has this functionality implemented

(It's a more maintenained fork of pygame that you use exactly the same)

[loud lynx]

Ill have to take a look at it. Because I need the textto rotate, the ai suggestion only works if implemented with sines and cosines, and Im a bit lazy 😄

[shut tulip]

why would you need sin and cos to do that ?

[loud lynx]

In my mind:
I then need starty and startx, to which the sin or cos(theta) * line height is added

Very rough formatting, but I hope its unserstandable

[shut tulip]

also if you want something a little more robust

    def render(
        self,
        font: str,
        text_or_loc: str | TextFormatter,
        color: Color,
        background_color: Color = None,
        justify: Anchor = LEFT,
        can_be_loc: bool = True,
        wrap: bool = False,
        max_width: int = None
    ) -> Surface:
        thefont = self._get_font(font)
        if can_be_loc:
            thetext = self._texts.get(text_or_loc)
        else:
            thetext = str(text_or_loc)

        if wrap:
            thetext = self.__wrap_text(thetext, font, max_width)

        if "\n" in thetext:
            lines = thetext.split('\n')
            line_size = self.get_linesize(font)
            bg_width = max(self.size(font, line)[0] for line in lines)
            bg_height = len(lines)*line_size
            background = Surface((bg_width, bg_height), SRCALPHA)
            background.fill((0, 0, 0, 0) if background_color is None else background_color)
            line_y = 0
            for line in lines:
                render = thefont.render(line, self._antialias, color, background_color)
                background.blit(render, ((bg_width - render.get_width())*justify[0], line_y))
                line_y += line_size
            return background

        return thefont.render(thetext, self._antialias, color, background_color)

This is my rendering function, which is a a method a class storing the fonts and managing languages as well, so lot of sugar but the important thing starts at the if
The main important thing is the background_color, the antialias, and the justify (here it is a tuple but only the first value is intersting: 0 for left, 1 for right, 0.5 for center, and another float for something weird

[loud lynx]

This looks very interesting but I dont understand half the code, I will have to work through it a bit later 😄

[shut tulip]

basically:

thefont is a pygame font. I store them so that I don't recreate a new instance every time I need it.
thetext is the string to be shown. text_or_loc and can_be_loc are used to represent the input, that is useful for language translations if you want to make your game in more than 2 languages
wrap is used to add automatically \n inside the text if it is too long to fit.

then, if there are some \n inside the text:
split line by line
get the height of a line for this font
get the maximum width of one of the line
get the height of the full rendered block
make an empty surface, color it
for each line:
make the text surface by rendering the line with the font
blit the rendered ine to the right coordinates

[loud lynx]

Aaa thats what textformatter is 😄

What is the point of can_be_loc?

[shut tulip]

locs are strings as well, like "LOC_MENU_BUTTON", for a button it can be loc, for like a textual entry it cannot

Imagine typing LOC_CHARACTER1_DESCRIPTION inside a textual entry asking for your name or password and having it display "John is a ...."
Of course your should add a validation behind to not allow it, but it shouldn't be shown on screen anyway

TextFormatter is just a list of strings with an optional separator. Some of the strings can be real strings, others can be localizations

like TextFormatter("LOC_SCORE", "273", sep=": ") will be converted in "Score: 273", which is useful to concatenate piece of strings that are locs and that are not

[loud lynx]

This TextFormatter is not a pygame class right?

[shut tulip]

not it's mine

[loud lynx]

Its something you made? Sounds interesting

[shut tulip]

everything that is not a font or surface is basically mine in this piece of code

[loud lynx]

why do you background.fill with a 4-tuple?

[shut tulip]

to set the alpha to 0

by default the background is transparent

[loud lynx]

Thats a very beautiful function

I might steal some ideas for myself 😄

[formal phoenix]

what game are you making btw?

[shut tulip]

Sure!

[loud lynx]

multiplayer (local network) card game

[formal phoenix]

thats cool i guess

[spring zealot]

Bro what

Tkinter for games

[spring zealot]

You don't

There's always gonna be some bugs just remove the obvious ones and any you encounter

Play testing with other people helps too

[vital hamlet]

.. it is usable for stuff like snake or things that are super small scope retro inspired games.

May give it a try. I like the idea of being creative with frameworks.

[spring zealot]

Can you give me an example code or smth I'd lowkey want to do that for my own reasons

[vital hamlet]

https://youtu.be/bfRwxS5d0SI?si=TyyFitRi8YAkws9R dont have the script written yet but this is what i saw it from. gave me inspiration to try for something else top down because i like grid patterns and dont always like how some frameworks impliment it by default

I don't actually know much about how Tkinter handles rendering on the backend so I actually wanna dive into it and see what it's capable of cause even just this is a lot

[spring zealot]

I didn't even realise you could display graphics past a photo on tkinter ngl

[vital hamlet]

Oh yes.. you can do A LOT. I'm just figuring that out and that's why I'm about to go crazy 🤣🤣🤣 (remember me if this starts a trend)

[spring zealot]

Me too bro

I've been making an obj veiwer this is big win

[formal phoenix]

You need a snake game? I can give one i made

[loud lynx]

I would really like to have this feature in my game, but I really hate that this glitching is happening. Does anyone know a solution to circumvent this?

The mouse cursor is at the bottom edge of the card when this happens.

    def adjust_position_based_on_mouse_pos(self) -> None:
        """
        Function that determines card's position when hovered.
        """
        if self.mobile: # self.mobile is shut off during certain phases and events
            relative_mouse_pos: IntFloatTuple = self.get_mouse_pos_relative_to_mask()
            center: IntFloatTuple= self.rect.center
            sin_rotation: float = math.sin(math.radians(self.rotation))
            cos_rotation: float = math.cos(math.radians(self.rotation))

            approximate_original_location, approximate_float_position =\
                    self.get_approximate_movements(100)
            # if self.rect is not hovered, it returns an IndexError
            try:

                # if card is hovered and not yet at float position
                if (self.mask.get_at(relative_mouse_pos) and 
                    not approximate_float_position.collidepoint(self.rect.center)):
                    
                    #card is moved up every frame
                    self.rotate_and_move(self.rotation, 
                                         (center[0] - 8 * sin_rotation,
                                          center[1] - 8 * cos_rotation))

                # if card.rect is hovered but not card.mask and card not at original position 
                elif (not self.mask.get_at(relative_mouse_pos) and 
                      not approximate_original_location.collidepoint(self.rect.center)):
                    
                    # card is moved down every frame
                    self.rotate_and_move(self.rotation, 
                                         (center[0] + 8 * sin_rotation,
                                          center[1] + 8 * cos_rotation))```

except IndexError:
                # if card is not yet at origin
                if not approximate_original_location.collidepoint(self.rect.center):
                    
                    # card is moved down every frame
                    self.rotate_and_move(self.rotation, 
                                         (center[0] + 8 * sin_rotation,
                                          center[1] + 8 * cos_rotation))

this is the culprit function. I cant think of anything better

self.get_approximate_movements returns two pygame.Rects that are later used in the conditionals. If the rects collide with the card mask, the cards stop moving. So with this function, if the mouse is between those two rects, the card starts glitching out.

[formal phoenix]

can someone give me a game ide and i will try to make it (2d)

[rich gulch]

how can u even make games w python?

what engine should ii use?

[icy valve]

oh yea its magic

[rich gulch]

unity?

NO I MEANT

what engine should i use

[icy valve]

well you dont even need an engine

[rich gulch]

vscode is enough?

[icy valve]

when you are creating a game on python

ive created at least 1 whit out any engine 100% python

[rich gulch]

oh

[icy valve]

and the other game ive created is in 2D like pacman but about flying soccer and used just the library pygame to pop out a window whit the game

[rich gulch]

oooh

so like vscode is enough?

[icy valve]

now im working in something that is not a game but kinda a 3d game just using the library ursina

i havent work whit VScode but any knoledge in programing is good

[rich gulch]

okay okay

[icy valve]

just knoledgue in python is enough

[rich gulch]

but like

[icy valve]

as dont need much of other languages

[rich gulch]

nvm i found the answer to my question

[icy valve]

i max use a little of bash and c++ just for a smal things for complex scripts

[rich gulch]

wait so the pygame library

[icy valve]

yes?

[rich gulch]

how do u use it

in ur script

[icy valve]

many ways

not only in one script

[rich gulch]

ah

[icy valve]

ive used on more of 20 for difrent things

ok you can use it as a more nice terminal whit symbols created by yourself

or you can use it to representate maps in a old style 8 bit

[rich gulch]

import pygame?

[icy valve]

or to make games to train a neural network

yyes import pygame

but first install it

[rich gulch]

but yea it doesnt work

in vscode

[icy valve]

exactlly

how big is teh game you want to create?

[rich gulch]

idk i am a begginer

[icy valve]

what style? what kind of platform?

[rich gulch]

i just wanna have a basic idea

until i feel ready

to code a game

[icy valve]

well you first need the idea of what do you want to do before to start searching how to do it

[rich gulch]

ohh so it matters ?

[icy valve]

yes

[rich gulch]

lets say a 2d platformer

like mario or games like that

[icy valve]

what about a pacman?

something like mario and simple to start

[rich gulch]

yes

mario sounds harder than pacman i think i wanna try it lol

[icy valve]

ok i have a pacman game already

give me a moment

[rich gulch]

ohhh alrr bet

[icy valve]

oh i found some code even simplier to start

you will love it as its more compact and easy to use

[rich gulch]

yooo i found how to import it

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[rich gulch]

pip install pygame in terminal

to start downloading

[icy valve]

yes

pip install pygame time random

those 3 basic libraries

[rich gulch]

wow this looks so exciting

[rich gulch]

what is time used for ?

[icy valve]

to calculate the ticks

[rich gulch]

well that looks easier than i excepted

[icy valve]

basically how fast every frame works on the game

[rich gulch]

dw ik what ticks are

[icy valve]

the minimum time unit

[rich gulch]

thats interesting

yea ik

random is for what ?

creating a random seed?

[icy valve]

to generate random numbers

[rich gulch]

yea ik

but like how is it used in pacman

[icy valve]

random seed is to not always start whit the same random seed

o well for this you only have to add the ghosts, convert the snake in pacman and add walls

you can "draw" the walls whit code like the snake body or the point that snake has to eat

[rich gulch]

HOW

wait

lemme run that cod

code

[icy valve]

you can start creating a yello scuare as pacman

[rich gulch]

oh

[icy valve]

magic

[rich gulch]

ikr

[icy valve]

not engine needed

[rich gulch]

i need to make it htat it cant turn when a wall is next to it

and how do i make the ghosts chase me

[icy valve]

is simple, just modify the wall void

[icy valve]

easy too

1 is creating like "gravity" so they follow you like water drops

2 is creating a path finding to you

so they do like 5 lines of code

[rich gulch]

water drops?

[icy valve]

like if im not whit pacman then i run in front to it, if im hitin a wall i turn right, if im still fighting a wall turn right again and tahsts it

basically imagine like a magnet

but slower so the gosts feel atracted to the magnet which is you

also i have another game but in 3D

[frank field]

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

[rich gulch]

i get it

[icy valve]

so whit this you have a first person shooter

[rich gulch]

but like they ll always end up turning right?

HWAT?

[icy valve]

same size of the snake one

[rich gulch]

wait lemme ry

[icy valve]

thats why is called fps.py

[rich gulch]

i couldnt run it

i need the libraries downloaded

[icy valve]

yes

let me give you the comand

pip install ursina

and thats it

[loud lynx]

Pygame has a builtin time.Clock object for ticks

[inland breach]

hey im really new to python and i wanna write a recoil script does anybody know how to and can help me please?

[icy valve]

remember me what is a recoil code

[inland breach]

im playing rust and i wanna write a script so my recoil is like nothing

[icy valve]

oh that kind of recoil

becasue there is other kind of recoil code but is more for haking "banks" and real stuff in real life

ok to make a recoil code you need a library that can help you to convert clicks on movement of the mouse

[inland breach]

well that could be usefull but i dont wanna go to jail XD

[inland breach]

how do i do that

[icy valve]

well is also usefull to make a inspection on a building to see were are bulneravilities

[rich gulch]

WHAT THE FUCK

[icy valve]

is like a corporation pays a criminal to try to steal something and then he describes how he didit and then get more pay than the thing he stole in the first place

[rich gulch]

HOW DID U MAKE THAT

IN 100 LINE

[icy valve]

im the magic femboy

ive done more in less lines

[rich gulch]

NAHHHHHH CRAZZZZZZZZZZZY

I STILL HAS A LOT TO LEARN

[icy valve]

there are to proofs

you can do it

[rich gulch]

i mean it doenst looktoo complicated

[icy valve]

i dont remember when i started maybe 1 or 2 years ago

[lost kindle]

@rich gulch, @icy valve, I've deleted your off-topic messages. Consider this an informal warning to stay on-topic.

[formal phoenix]

you make games using pygame, or ursina for 3d

[cerulean nimbus]

there are also still others like pyglet, panda3d, ...

its just to whatever people prefer 🤷‍♂️

[waxen bronze]

Yo guys i just have a question rq, me and my friend are creating a mini game ( 2D ) using pygame and we've basically just reached 200 lines of code in it, we didnt realise it but we were writing it in procedural style, should we change it to more of a OOP code or should we just stick up to the procedural coding?

[shut tulip]

200 lines aren't that much, if you feel you are still going well, no reason to change

If it gets too complex to manage like this, then refactoring the code to make some classes is a good solution

[waxen bronze]

hmmmmmm ok ty

[waxen bronze]

Anyways guys, what should i change about this code? really looking for some tips

[formal phoenix]

nice project, im currently working on your project