game-development

[wheat gulch]

im gonna explain it in more detail

So i want to get a map and based on that draw polygons from the countries on the map, sorta like a map game

ok it will be better if i probably do it in an engine

[dry temple]

Happy new year! everyone!

Awesome! how many years experience do you have?

[somber sable]

need 50 messages

need to talk to someone

[candid thunder]

how much of python should i know before i try pygame or any other like it?

[sturdy sandal]

pygame.draw.polygon ?

[sturdy sandal]

added a bit to my game

[unique yew]

213

[noble rapids]

so what do you recon i should do? i already have taken comp sci in school and we use python

[sturdy sandal]

programming is just a skill
so just practice making stuff
python is just the tools you use to make the stuff with

id reccomend starting simple with a bubble sort algorithm

[noble rapids]

i sound stpid but whats a bubble sort algorithm

we might have different terms ?

[rigid sun]

A type of sorting algorithm where the numbers "bubble up" through the list to their correct positions. It's a very simple, not very efficient, but effective sorting algorithm. It's a good exercise for someone learning to wrap their head around coding.

[normal silo]

Books. https://automatetheboringstuff.com/

Courses.

[noble rapids]

damn yall im blessed

[normal silo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfaMVlDaQ24

(More than just Python in this one, touches a bunch of things, good intro)

(If you watch this you should have some idea of what to look into next (e.g. more about data structures and algorithms))

@noble rapids

[noble rapids]

alright thanks

[normal silo]

If you prefer reading, get some books. Books work.

[noble rapids]

ive been doing python for about 6 months in school as im studying comp (as ive said) but i wanted to advence myself like i wanna do abit of cyber secuirty coding and hopefully make a multi tool, or abit of game dev, or evn programming for physical projects like a rasberry pi project.

[normal silo]

There is some foundation that will help you in all of those, which is touched on in that video.

(e.g. you should probably know what a bubble sort is (you may not use it, but the general process of solving problems that comes from it))

[noble rapids]

yeah unfortunetly not i will watch that video some time today

[normal silo]

Programming as a skill is not tied to a language, but you do need some language at all to do things, which is why courses start with learning some language. But once you have some of that you want to focus on programming as a skill itself.

You also may want to start getting into more than one language slowly as it will help you also see how this is a universal skill that is not tied to any one language.

And each language also tends to have some of its own neat ideas that you can apply in other languages too (e.g. for code organization).

[tired reef]

import math
import pygame

pygame.init()


WIDTH, HEIGHT = 1000, 1000
screen = pygame.display.set_mode((WIDTH, HEIGHT))
pygame.display.set_caption("")


class healthbar:
    def __init__(self,x,y,w,h,max_hp):

        self.x = x
        self.y = y

        self.w = w
        self.h = h

        self.hp = max_hp
        self.max_hp = max_hp
    
    def draw(self,):
        # health ratio
        ratio = self.hp / self.max_hp

        pygame.draw.rect(screen, "red",(self.x,self.y,self.w,self.h))
        pygame.draw.rect(screen, "green",(self.x,self.y,self.w * ratio,self.h))





running = True

while running:

    healthbar.draw(screen)

    for event in pygame.event.get():
        if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
            running = False

    pygame.quit()

is this ok I'm following a tutorial for the health bar and i get a no attubute error hp

[normal silo]

When you have a class, it's like a blueprint, you need to actually make the house from that (an instance). Looks like my_healthbar = healthbar(...), then you can call methods on that instance, such as my_healthbar.draw(screen).

I recommend making the words in your class start with an upper case letter, so HealthBar. This helps avoid conflicts with variable names (instances of that class).

[tired reef]

thank you

[tired reef]

i have a problem with an attribute error

object has no attribute 'hp' even though i had followed the tutorial```py
import math
import pygame

pygame.init()

WIDTH, HEIGHT = 1000, 1000
screen = pygame.display.set_mode((WIDTH, HEIGHT))
pygame.display.set_caption("")

class HealthBar:
def init(self,x,y,W,H,max_hp):

    self.x = x
    self.y = y

    self.W = W
    self.H = H 

    self.hp = max_hp
    self.max_hp = max_hp

def draW(self):
    # health ratio
    ratio = self.hp / self.max_hp

    pygame.draW.rect(screen, "red",(self.x,self.y,self.W,self.H))
    pygame.draW.rect(screen, "green",(self.x,self.y,self.W * ratio,self.H))

player_Health_bar = HealthBar(250, 200, 300, 40, 100)

running = True

while running:

HealthBar.draW(screen)

for event in pygame.event.get():
    if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
        running = False

pygame.quit()

[normal silo]

Describe to me what HealthBar.draW(screen) does.

[tired reef]

shoot i just realized that thank you and it is supposed to blit it onto the screen

[normal silo]

Ok, but can you give me more details on exactly what the code is doing?

What does it mean for HealthBar to be followed by a period?

What is HealthBar?

What is draW?

[tired reef]

in full honesty I'm following the tutorial would you like the link?

[normal silo]

Yes.

[tired reef]

i used the replace comand and hit all

[tired reef]

im just folowing the tutorial https://youtu.be/E82_hdoe06M?si=ozlqRD5_WqS4kNVC

[normal silo]

Are you familiar with classes in Python?

[tired reef]

Yes, classes, or object-oriented programming, is, as you have said earlier, like a construction blueprint that can be used in the creation of games, apps, and artificial neural networks. It is dependent on what it is used for, but its use is the same; it is used for doing specific tasks, like a math equation, and storing a variable as an attribute for the main code. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[tired reef]

yes

[normal silo]

Ok, review some more information on classes, objects, and methods. Especially the difference between a class and an instance of that class, and what methods do.

[wheat gulch]

so idk what category to put it in but i have a problem where i need to fill a world map with random colors for each country, i tried using PIL floodfill but that doesnt work

[normal silo]

#media-processing

[unique yew]

media processing

[manic totem]

why its looping when i still set the loop argument to zero

[sturdy sandal]

wdym?
whats looping, wheres the loop, wheres the zero?

[pine smelt]

think they're referring to the audio? unsure though

[gaunt nacelle]

would yall like me to send the python game i made? i need feedback or if there are weird things in the code cuz im new to pygame

[mild forum]

Hello

I have been working on my game for a while, but not as much as I wanted and could. Every time I want to work on it, add something new, I don't know what to add. I have lots of ideas, but those ideas are not in order.

I mean, I have lots of ideas, but don't know how to decide which one to implement.

[nova bramble]

Hey everyone! I’ve been working on my first game, a SnakeGame project, and I’ve published it on GitHub: https://github.com/Aleixus/SnakeGame. If you have some free time and feel like playing Snake, I’d really appreciate any feedback or suggestions! Thanks so much!

Like now I'll have to work on it a bit more but it's at least playable now

[mild forum]

I like it, also the scoring system is a neat detail!

[nova bramble]

Thanks! I'd like to add a settings feature where users can customize things like the number of players, the amount of food in the game, and the player controls, as well as letting players set their username. Additionally, I'm considering allowing players to control multiple snakes and switch between them during the game.

Like there's a lot of stuff that I want to do in Settings and idk if it will all fit lol

[mild forum]

oof, that requires lots of work. Implementing multiplayer can be tough sometimes

[nova bramble]

I'd say I made it modular enough... I just need to add the controls, place the snake in another tile, and done i'd say

[mild forum]

wait, multiplayer on one computer, or online multiplayer?

@nova bramble

[nova bramble]

1 computer obs, don't want to torture myself over a snake game

[nova bramble]

I will want to do online games but not rn... that's too much of a jump

I'd say making snake ai would be easier to start with

[mild forum]

Implementing simple server-client connection is not that hard

[nova bramble]

but syncing stuff and whatever might be

[mild forum]

oh that yes, it can be hard

this was my first attempt when I tried making online multiplayer
those numbers you can see on consoles are coordinates

if you ever want to experiment with online multiplayer, you can use this simple server code, you can modify the code however you want

import socket
s = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_DGRAM)
s.bind(('127.0.0.1', 4567))

clients = []

while True:
    data, addr = s.recvfrom(2048)
    if data == b'0x00ff':
        if len(clients) > 0:
            s.sendto(b'r', addr)
        else:
            s.sendto(b'b', addr)
        if addr not in clients:
            clients.append(addr)
    if data == b'bye':
        clients.pop()
    try:
        for client in clients:
            s.sendto(data, client)
    except:
        pass

[nova bramble]

Oh wow this is really cool

I might consider adding it

Wait but isn’t it just removing the last client? What if that’s not the one who has the bye data?

[mild forum]

I don't know, I can try

on client side, when you close the window, before closing the client it sends bye message to the server, and then server removes that client from the list of connected clients, so it can be reusable
@nova bramble

actually, know what? I will give you the client code as well and you can play with it and experiment.

just tinker around it and find out how it works. I'm gonna write you some comments as well.

[nova bramble]

Thanks 🙏

[gaunt nacelle]

heres a cool game i made: https://github.com/joshiayaansh/hackgame

[manic totem]

The winning_sound. The pygame.mixer.Sound.Play() should be not looping on default right?

[prisma thorn]

okay so im developing a small text game and im having troubles with the stats variables, i need to only accept 8-15 and if its over or under i need to spit invalid input and then try again

class Stats(Char):
    def __init__(self):
        print("\nMinimum stat 8, max 15.\n")
        while True:
          try:
            self.Strength = int(input("Strength?: "))
            if self.Strength > 8 or self.Strength < 15:
              pass
            else:
              print("invalid input")
            break
          except:
            print("invalid input.")
        while True:
          try:
            self.Dex = int(input("Dexterity?: "))
            break
          except:
            print("invalid input.")
        while True:
          try:
            self.Const = int(input("Constitution?: "))
            break
          except:
            print("invalid input.")
        while True:
          try:
            self.Intell = int(input("Intelligence?: "))
            break
          except:
            print("invalid input.")
        while True:
          try:
            self.Wisdom = int(input("Wisdom?: "))
            break
          except:
            print("invalid input")
        while True:
          try:
            self.Charisma = int(input("Charisma?: "))
            print("invalid input")
            break
          except:
            print("invalid input")

    def PrintBaseStats(self):
        print(f"Strength: {self.Strength}\nDexterity: {self.Dex}\nConstitution(endurance): {self.Const}\nIntelligence: {self.Intell}\nWisdom: {self.Wisdom}\nCharisma?: ")
        print("You have 27 points you may spend into these values! You may remove some points in others to put to other values.\n")

the issue is up where the strength part it

is

[sturdy sandal]

oohhh, im not sure, but just use a stop to be certain it stops

[glossy scarab]

Whats the best way to make 3d games in python

Ping me fr answer

[vagrant saddle]

Panda3D ( easier, versatile and cross platform ) / Harfang3D

[light jacinth]

        while True:
          try:
            self.Strength = int(input("Strength?: "))
            if self.Strength > 8 or self.Strength < 15:
              pass
            else:
              print("invalid input")
            break
          except:
            print("invalid input.")

There are 2 things to consider here. Firstly, your if condition: self.Strength > 8 or self.Strength < 15. "if the input value was greater than 8 OR less than 15" is not quite right, as it happens every number will satisfy this. What you're looking for is the intersection of those two regions, i.e. self.Strength > 8 and self.Strength < 15. Although even in this form we would still need to tweak things a little bit to accept 8 or 15: currently this accepts 9-14. To fix that, we can change the > to >= and do the same for < to <=, leaving us with self.Strength >= 8 and self.Strength <= 15. Python has special syntax to let us optionally shorten this, like so: 8 <= self.Strength <= 15

With our if condition fixed, we now need to consider your placement of break. Currently, the break triggers regardless of whether the check in the if statement succeeded! So we need to move it inside the if clause, replacing the location of the old pass.

[prisma thorn]

i had fixed it but thank you

[prisma thorn]

im having another issue recently, i have to add more lines but for math, if its above 8 in the attribute inputted i need subtract however points you added from 8 from the point value of 27

[light jacinth]

Slightly struggling to parse that one, just to check you mean (calling the value inputted x) subtracting (x-8) from 27?

[prisma thorn]

sorry had to take a pic of my monitor cause school

but this is how the math is

after that first if being true and it was more than 8 itd take the input and subtract by 8 then subtract that from the points atotaled and then add 8 back to give your stats back

[light jacinth]

oh I see, so effectively you will have a budget of 27 that you distribute across your stats, which are all based at 8

[prisma thorn]

yeah, all the way up to 15 per stat as long as you have the budget

im having trouble because it only accepts the input 8 there otherwise invalid

[light jacinth]

wdym by "it only accepts the input 8 there otherwise invalid"

[light jacinth]

The current version of your code in this pic only accepts 8 as an input?

[prisma thorn]

if i had the the mathwhere i drew it only accepted the number 8 as input only, not 8-15 as a range

[prisma thorn]

no, thats the only pic i had as of recent but i tried what i wrote but had to get rid of it

cause of said error, and i didnt put it back becausr that pic was made before i had to go before school

[light jacinth]

ah ok

[prisma thorn]

where i drew is where i put the equations and it only accepted 8

9 was invalid

so going by logic 10-15 would be too

[light jacinth]

From what you've written, just inserting the code from your notes screenshot inside the existing if on line 17 should work fine

As a sidenote, you don't actually have to check if self.(attribute) > 8 inside, since you already set 8 as the lower bound, and if the value is 8 then you will just be subtracting 0 from your budget which is fine

[prisma thorn]

how would i be able to input a modulus thingy to make it easier?

like the remainder

cause

itd be so much easier if i could find a way without assigning the attribute again to a different value

like a shortcut

[light jacinth]

Right

You could either use a separate variable to store this excess, or just write it in the same line

[prisma thorn]

cause right here i had to reassign it

after the earlier assignment

[light jacinth]

if you do the math, currently you are doing (call the attr x_1):

x_2 = x_1 - 8
PointValue = PointValue - x_2
x_3 = x_2 + 8

Here you are doing PointValue - x_2 which is just PointValue - (x_1 - 8) so you could have written it like that instead of modifying your self.(attribute)

so you could replcae your 3 lines with:

PointValue = PointValue - (self.attribute - 8)
# OR
PointValue = PointValue + 8 - self.attribute
# OR
PointValue -= self.attribute - 8
# OR
PointValue += 8 - self.attribute

[prisma thorn]

the first one seems so better

[light jacinth]

I'd suggest using the -= or alternatively += variant, since it's a bit of an antipattern to have blah = blah +/-/...

[prisma thorn]

okay ill be back, i got gym then i got comp sci to do this

[light jacinth]

Also, there will be a lot of repetition in your code, so I'd suggest defining some functions to help parse all the attributes

[prisma thorn]

how could i implement that as a function instead?

[light jacinth]

What blocks in this code look almost identical, and what parts are different each time?

[prisma thorn]

well i mean how could i change the self.attribute to be changed as a function throughout since its repeated and lengthy

then i could try that as well for the small math for the attributes too

[fluid grail]

srry wrong chat

[prisma thorn]

okay but thats sick as hell

[fluid grail]

thx

ill resend it then

wait a second

so this is the game

its like a cookie clicker but in tkinter

im not that good in python, im just a beginner in gui

[light jacinth]

Right, so you could write a function that does the whole while loop, asks for input, etc. But there are some things you can't really factor away (without some ugly code), namely the self.(attribute) parts. So to work around that, we could just have our function return the value of the attribute and set it ourselves outside:

self.Strength = self.parse_attribute(...)
self.Dex = self.parse_attribute(...)
...

What values would we need to provide to our parse_attribute in order for this to work?

[proper goblet]

3

[prisma thorn]

what does parsing do?

[prisma thorn]

@light jacinth im still having issues, when i have that math under the if statemeny it wont accept any input still

im on the school computers so i cant ss sadly

[light jacinth]

by "parsing" I mean taking input data and turning it into a useful form

[prisma thorn]

oh huh

yeah i dont know an entire lot about python commands yet

i only know basic commands

[light jacinth]

It's not a command that exists, it's a name people use for a specific task

You'd have to define a method called parse_attribute and implement it yourself

[prisma thorn]

ohhhh

OHHHH but i still want those 6 predetermined attributes

would parse just be collecting input?

[light jacinth]

For example:

class Stats(Char):
    ...
    def parse_attribute(self):
        return 1
``` would be a useless but valid implementation

[prisma thorn]

so return int(input(“strength”)) or so?

[light jacinth]

Right, that would be an improvement

But then we would want to put more features into that, like adding your retry loop

And the valdiation

[prisma thorn]

ima keep the code i have for now cause its like 60 lines already and im not going throigh that right now

[light jacinth]

And also how do we know that we want input("strength")? sometimes you want input("dex") instead, so you would need an argument to the method that tells it what the name of the attr is

[prisma thorn]

i just need the predetermined ones

strength, dexterity, constitution, intelligence, wisdom, and charisma

[light jacinth]

Ik, I'm just saying that you would need this if you wanted to use the same parse_attribute method for all attrs

[prisma thorn]

yeah i was wondering how id use that with parse

but the problem persists rn

[light jacinth]

so you would end up with

self.Strength = self.parse_attribute("strength")
self.Dex = self.parse_attribute("dex")
...

Anyway back to ur problem

[prisma thorn]

it doesnt accept any integer value between or out of range

i had to kill terminal

[light jacinth]

Does your code currently look like:

        while True:
          try:
            self.Strength = int(input("Strength?: "))
            if self.Strength >= 8 and self.Strength <= 15:
              PointValue = PointValue - (self.Strength - 8)
              break
            else:
              print("invalid input")
          except:
            print("invalid input.")
``` ?

[prisma thorn]

sorry for photos of monitor

its the only thing i can do

thank you, programmers hangout makes it a thing

[light jacinth]

A lot of people here do too, it can be annoying since you can't paste the code and edit it but idm that much here

[prisma thorn]

thank you a lot

i usually make pseudo code in google doc that i paste later

[light jacinth]

If all your stats look like this, it should be fine, although you would be able to make a maxed spec sheet that is 15 in everything currently

Your terminal output looks like it made it past all the stats, no?

[prisma thorn]

thats what i used as you can see but it cant accept anything at all

i forgot to add

@light jacinth how could i fix that?

[light jacinth]

hold on ill be back in a bit

[prisma thorn]

k

welp comp class ended 💔

[light jacinth]

Realised what the problem was btw

you didnt define PointValue

but because you had that in a bare try-except, the error was being caught

And then it was treated as if the error was from the int process

        while True:
          try:
            self.Strength = int(input("Strength?: "))
            if self.Strength >= 8 and self.Strength <= 15:
              PointValue = PointValue - (self.Strength - 8)
              break
            else:
              print("invalid input")
          except ValueError:
            print("invalid input.")
``` Explicitly naming the type of error you want to catch will help avoid these situations in future

Here we want to catch the first error but not the second

[prisma thorn]

i defined pointvalue before the entirety of it

[light jacinth]

Ah right, in that case it's a slightly different but related error

If you define a variable in the global scope, you cannot modify if in another scope

If you try to do that, Python will say "oh the variable you're modifying must be local", but there is no such local

So it'll crash

If you do this for example, because we did p = we know p must be local, and gets set to 1 just fine

You should really be defining your PointValue inside the __init__ function, making it local

Or, you set a local variable like budget = PointValue at the start of __init_- and use that instead

[prisma thorn]

ah okay so put pointvalue to init

[spark perch]

GaMe DevElOpMeNt WiTH PyThOn!???!??!?!?!?!?

[spark perch]

Erm what the sigma is that editor?

Hollup, is this like just choose ur own adventure games/rpg games?
\

Use my library pip install basicrpg

I need feedback and feature requests, its still under development and very epic indeed, also documentation goes hard

Also pls learn from it, like if u dont know much about OOP, there r tones of examples and lots of coments on github basicrpglib

[prisma thorn]

im making a dnd game in text

[prisma thorn]

im doing it from scratch

ill refine it and check out the library later, im just challenging myself since this is a rough draft for my full game

yeah im checking out the library and its not what i need

im developing my own game engine for rolls for this text game rn

and its already what i really had

ill talk to my one friend

[spark perch]

Pov your a password grabber program?

[spark perch]

siiiiiick

[spark perch]

Respect, it's good man. I made the library cause I wanted to do it from scratch too lol

[spark perch]

Nice

[prisma thorn]

yeah, although im a girl

[spark perch]

it's good woman*

[prisma thorn]

id have to change way too many things but i might snag some parts of it

[spark perch]

wait that dont sound so good

[prisma thorn]

lol

[prisma thorn]

its good either way

i dont know if my profile from servers shows my pronouns 😭

[spark perch]

Any chance u could LMK what features you were looking for? Im looking for new things to add and I dont play much D&D tbh

Also r u making a visual engine, and if so, r u making the screen rendering or whatever from scratch as well?

[prisma thorn]

yeah no i like the concepts of the basic rpg listing

ill definitelly be repurposing a bunch of stuff

[prisma thorn]

i dont either, i have an entire storyboard made for a predetermined campaign with my friend

[spark perch]

Thats more than I got 💀

[spark perch]

??

[prisma thorn]

ive implemented a point system right now and character name for input

[prisma thorn]

not yet

i was gonna experiment engines

im trying out pygame first but i have to learn sprites animations etc etc

demo rn

(cant screen record on this crappy pc)

[prisma thorn]

im just making it like the oregon trail, pure text

[light jacinth]

ipython, in a windows terminal session

[spark perch]

Why no VS COOOOOOOOOOODE?😢😢😢😢😢😢

[spark perch]

Beautiful, text games are great

[light jacinth]

because I wanted to illustrate a short example, no need to spin up vscode for that. Even if I did, I'd still end up running ipython in there

[spark perch]

learning object oriented programing could be a big boost. Also, adding a menu function to easily create menus such as the play or die menu at the start. This can also make your game look much nicer, with menu's having some sort of visual apeal

[spark perch]

Takes deep breath of relief

[prisma thorn]

yeah thats what i wanna do but im just using terminal cause idk anything else

[spark perch]

Object oriented is terminal, and the menu function I sent u as well

I like sticking to the terminal

OOP (Object oriented programing) just makes ur coding much more organised and effiecient if used correctly

The menu function I sent u is basic tho, no OOP

[gaunt nacelle]

What?

[spark perch]

Im just joking ,cause it takes a password and connects to a remote server

In theory, you could add the password name combo to a database to use when bruteforcing accounts, because that would compromise peoplke who repeat usernames and passwords across accounts

[gaunt nacelle]

k, the server is local and stored in a file called name_password.db, i should use a more secure name in patch 2

[spark perch]

Yeah man, maybe also add a note to the password selector to not use a previously used password

And let ppl know what they are creating an account for

Also is ur db secured against SQL injection type attacks, or like being able to gather info on the server from an external source (your program). Ik it's prob not a security project, but these are the things you gotta consider when adding server connections n the like. Also not tryna say I know everything, or that ur dumb, just curious about ur project

[gaunt nacelle]

ok, also its not like a server, its a local database so only someone who can get into their computer or remotely getting into their computer can access it and its hashed and salted with a random salt, also what cool stuff could i add to the game?

i have a discord for the game but i know this isnt the place to promote it

also if you saw the whole source code, you might have seen all of those sprites i made, those are for 3.0 (preditcted for jan 1 2026)

[gaunt nacelle]

i really dont know, i dont know much about security and sql injections, is hashing and salting the passwords enough?

[spark perch]

Lol I dont even know what salting is, but hashing is great, yeah. Do you have a key for ur hash? honestly tho, the best solution if you dont want to make this a cybersecurity project is just to warn users at the start that they should not use a common password, and that the database's security may not be the best.

[gaunt nacelle]

ok, what cool features could i add

[dawn quiver]

I have absolutely no experience in pygame, but i was trying to make a simple game, i generated the whole code with blackbox ai and chatgpt, so its horrible and theres bugs everywhere and wont even work properly. If someone could teach me how to fix it for me, i would be so much thankful. Sorry if my english is bad, im brazilian.
Heres the code: https://pastebin.com/8b15wWBz

[gaunt nacelle]

i can help, i used to make lots of my code with chatgpt but now i ask chatgpt to fix my code, i make the code

[dawn quiver]

thanks bro

the code is horrible rn

i cant fix it even asking chatgpt

[gaunt nacelle]

ok, so for me to fix i need to know what bugs are happeing

[dawn quiver]

the first one is that the betting screen wont work

[gaunt nacelle]

i rember making a starter game kit on github but its really unfinished

[dawn quiver]

you can run he code and see it by yourself if you need it

[gaunt nacelle]

ok

[dawn quiver]

you cant get past this screen

[gaunt nacelle]

oh

ill check

is it supposed to do that 2222222222222 thing

[dawn quiver]

no

[gaunt nacelle]

ok

[dawn quiver]

when you press any number it does that

[gaunt nacelle]

how can i make a code block on discord

i think i found something

[dawn quiver]

idk man

i just installed discord and made this account

[gaunt nacelle]

oh

[dawn quiver]

its my first time here

[gaunt nacelle]

i know now

(elif event.key == pygame.K_BACKSPACE: bet_input = bet_input[:-1])

bet_input isnt a list

i dont know how to fix it, i just know that one rror i found

[dawn quiver]

oh

[gaunt nacelle]

i found something else

if bet_input.isdigit() else 0 you have to make it instead of else 0 make it else bet_input == 0

sorry i mean bet_input = 0

[dawn quiver]

and how to fix the numbers appearing twice when you place your bet

[gaunt nacelle]

screen.blit(bet_surface, (WIDTH // 2 - bet_surface.get_width() // 2, HEIGHT // 2))

[dawn quiver]

thats the error?

how can i fix it

[spark perch]

You gotta learn those functions man, few people will know what most of that means off the top of their head. This is the downside of AI code. Learn how that function (screen.blit) works and the error will become apparent

@dawn quiver

[dawn quiver]

ill try

[dawn quiver]

i just cant

im trying to learn pygame since last year

i still dont know nothing

[dawn quiver]

yo gng i want fucking help

i cant download python thanks to some bullshit

the download cancels it fucking self

[vagrant saddle]

what is your OS ?

[dawn quiver]

Windows

[vagrant saddle]

can help for that one, but you may find handy to use python from web directly eg https://pygame-web.github.io/showroom/pythongit.html

[dawn quiver]

NA

it looks like an fuckin ipgrabber

look

the problem is

that when i download the shit

suddenly it cancels itself

[vagrant saddle]

what is ip grabber ?

[dawn quiver]

well i thought mfs were more technological than me

[vagrant saddle]

could you please use more generic english when writing so non native can understand you ?

[dawn quiver]

jesus fuckin christ fine

i thought people were more smart on technology n shit than me

here

[vagrant saddle]

insulting people when wanting help is probably not the way

when you cannot access a native python interpreter for games, you can use python webassembly from web directly like for game jams https://itch.io/c/2563651/pygame-wasm

[dawn quiver]

holy fuckin ass i just wanna download python including PATH in it

[vagrant saddle]

please stop swearing and this is a game dev channel , not some microsoft windows helpdesk

[dawn quiver]

what?

[open plover]

.github.io

Also insulting people that want to help doesn't even have a valid argument

No one gets paid for helping here

If someone is helping they most likely do it from the kindness of their heart

[dawn quiver]

Who need job dm me

[unreal breach]

guys i just started any tips for a beginner (13y)

[slow copper]

master the foundation, make ton of projects while learning, be dedicated

[unreal breach]

how much experience do you have ?

[slow copper]

been learning python for like 5 years now

still learning

it never ends

[unreal breach]

stay motivated bro

[slow copper]

lol

[unreal breach]

do you recomend a youtuber

[slow copper]

you too

corey schafer is pretty good

[unreal breach]

for begginers

[slow copper]

yeah

he has an entire playlist

[unreal breach]

thx

[slow copper]

for python

[unreal breach]

yea

[slow copper]

!resources

[frank field]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[slow copper]

you can find some good books too here

[unreal breach]

where

[slow copper]

the link here

like automating boring stuff with python

[unreal breach]

thx

where do you come from?

[slow copper]

im from india

[unreal breach]

ok

im from sweden

[slow copper]

cool

[unreal breach]

can you make a geme in python?

[slow copper]

yeah

[unreal breach]

wow

cool

[slow copper]

there many graphics library, pygame being the most popular one

[unreal breach]

what engien did you use?

[slow copper]

game engine for python?

[unreal breach]

yes

?

[slow copper]

well theres ursina

game engine

[unreal breach]

ok

is that good

[slow copper]

pygame isnt a game engine though, its just a sdl wrapper

[slow copper]

yeah its pretty good and maintained

[unreal breach]

ok

is it beginer frendly

?

[slow copper]

kinda ig? but if you dive into making games without having any knowledge of python you'll find it very difficult

first master your basics like variables, condition statements, functions, loops etc and all

[unreal breach]

ok im gonna wach corey

im know the for loop

[slow copper]

nice

[stoic cypress]

hi

can anyone convert my scratch block code to pygame iff yes dm me i can pay

[vagrant saddle]

offering money is against the rules but anyway you need to be more clear, is it about just running the scratch project (version ???) in python or transpile it so modifying/evolving it from python later is made easy ? otherwise the scratch vm has been ported to pygame-ce already see https://pmp-p.itch.io/opac3tyd

[stoic cypress]

i never mentioned paying money + i didnt mean it

[paper grove]

I'm creating Sam Hogans cell machine in Python using Pygame and it's going to have a modding api. In the docs readme file for the modding api I made this for the file structure and I think it looks perfect.

https://github.com/TenCommands/PyCellMachine

[dire talon]

this is our code: https://pastebin.com/pvczVGei
our problem is:
were making a hangman game and were adding different characters to be hangman the problem is that we cant seem to dynamically change the hangman pictures, the character pictures in which we choose the characters is done but the actual hangman images when we get a letter wrong is not working with different characters, we basically need to dynamically change the hangman pictures on the basis of the character

[next estuary]

Shader-rendered bullet physics based on the Binding of Isaac game (Ursina / Panda3d)

[spark perch]

Wanna make a basic text RPG in the terminal? I made a library for u!

https://pypi.org/project/basicrpg/#description

https://github.com/Unlisted27/basicrpglib

[opal thorn]

@vestal moth is gamedev just a hobby or are you trying to get into the industry?

[vestal moth]

both

I watched video game documentaries and got inspired

grew up with video games and said "sure"

just making a game I like. if a game mechanic sounds fun I'll go and implement it

[opal thorn]

That's awesome. It's a nice creative outlet

[vestal moth]

fuck yeah it is lol

[opal thorn]

I've been in the industry for a few years now and it's pretty wild out there

[vestal moth]

In what sense? Good or bad?

😨

[opal thorn]

oh I love working in games, but the industry is just in a bad place right now

massive layoffs across the board

[vestal moth]

Oh and btw I like to use blender for making animations, but I'm kinda overwhelmed since it would mean I'm also the 3d modeller guy, the script guy and the animator guy. all the credits gets taken by me which leads to burnout

[opal thorn]

yeah, it's a ton of working doing everything

I don't actually do much in the way of gameplay programming

I'm a tech artist

[vestal moth]

ooo, you work with shaders?

[opal thorn]

ahh nope, more on the artist tool side

it's unfortunate how wide a description "tech art" is

I do rigging and animation tools

[vestal moth]

I heard about this role but never knew fully what it entails

[opal thorn]

Maya though, not blender

[vestal moth]

You need to know python for deeper rigging if i'm not mistaken, right?

[opal thorn]

you don't need it but it saves a ton of time

technically you can do it without, but I would never

[vestal moth]

I see

[opal thorn]

I started out as an animator and then learned python which lead me to rigging/tech art

[vestal moth]

Nice transition

is there a video that shows what you can do as a tech art?

Or an article?

[opal thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr7XYXMM7-U

I've always thought this video is pretty thorough

[vestal moth]

what's the difference between bones and a rigging skeleton? Assuming ideas from blender transfer to maya

for example this is my rig, but you can also add armatures like bones

[opal thorn]

an animatable rig generally has 3 layers.

The "bind skeleton" which is the bones that the mesh is directly connected to. This is ultimately what gets exported to the game.
The "control skeleton" which adds features to the rig like IK/FK, space switching, any other custom movements, etc. This drives the bind skeleton
the "control rig" which is what the animator will interact with to actually do their animations

[vestal moth]

So the control skeleton gives the ability for the character to have IK movement (inverse kinematics) so the programmers can have it make the feet react to different levels of platforms like stairs?

[opal thorn]

all the skeleton features built in maya/blender are only for that software and for the animator to interact with. If you want dynamic IK in game, it has to be custom added in engine to the bind skeleton

the only thing that gets exported from your DCC to engine is the bind skeleton and mesh

[limber veldt]

I do the same but just as a hobby, tryna implement game mechanics, sometimes even in games but many just because it's interesting

Side missions, as I call em

My recent chess game started as a side mission and turned into an almost complete game

[rustic robin]

b

[outer tundra]

Why you choose Python for game dev?

[vestal moth]

I wouldn't either, i'd learn c++ since its most commonly used

but if you're familiar with python and don't want to learn something else then it's okay if you use the pygame library

[grim abyss]

bye bye turtle! Hello DearPyGui...

[robust egret]

woah

[faint dagger]

hi guys i was wondering what beginner course or projects i should learn/do right now. I'm just getting back into python but i want to do game dev with pygame, ive had experience in the past and i dont really like using game engines or like c++ ive used them in the past and dont really like them. any suggestions?

[raven kernel]

I remember this project of yours!

[grim abyss]

I'm impressed you remember 🙂

[grim abyss]

new features and new bugs

[faint dagger]

could anyone answer my question?

[grim abyss]

?

[faint dagger]

bro scroll up

[raven kernel]

get re-familiarized with oop and modules, then tackle pygame

[faint dagger]

how

[vestal moth]

Reddit, youtube, etc

just search "youtube python oop" and you'll get your way there

[outer tundra]

"Python in a Nutshell" & "Fluent Python" books

[grim abyss]

so ofc I need to utilize vcs and I already have a gh so I used vs-code to push my local repo(master) to my already created repo(main) on gh. I then had two branches on gh. main and remote....couldn't figure out how to merge them into one after several hours so I just gave up on git and have switched to Fossil. Haven't had any problems! Plus fossil has this:

pretty. freakin'. cool!

[raven kernel]

sounds old /j

[grim abyss]

now i'm going to add an interface to browse and select wads(within doom-map-scope) from the idGames DB to plot!

plot wadfiles from here

[orchid cove]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/raw/73QA 3d game that my friend made

[open plover]

Why did you put raw in it

Unless you're import it from that URL

[orchid cove]

uhh

just how my friend gave the url

[open plover]

[faint dagger]

is there any options that arent books? i would like to use an interactive course online or i wouldnt mind reading a bit

[faint dagger]

!resources

[frank field]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[faint dagger]

hi guys is anyone there? i could use some help getting started

i dont know what game engine i should use? or use pygame?

[robust egret]

what are you planning to make?

[faint dagger]

oh i already decided on using pygame since i know some of it and its beginner-friendly

i could switch to unity after a few years of learning pygame but im only 14 right now so i can switch when im almost going into uni

if i want to do game dev in uni ill just switch in year 11/12

[low ocean]

import pygame
from sys import exit
from pygame.math import Vector2
import random

class SNAKE:
def init(self):
self.body = [Vector2(5,10), Vector2(6,10), Vector2(7,10)]

def draw_snake(self):
    for block in self.body:
        x_pos = int(block.x * cell_size)
        y_pos = int(block.y * cell_size)
        block_rect = pygame.Rect(x_pos, y_pos, cell_size, cell_size)
        pygame.draw.rect = (screen, 'green', block_rect)

class FRUIT:
def init(self):
self.pos_x = random.randint(0, 800)
self.pos_y = random.randint(0, 400)
self.pos = Vector2(self.pos_x, self.pos_y)

def draw_fruit(self):
    fruit = pygame.image.load('Downloads/apple.png').convert_alpha()
    fruit2 = pygame.transform.scale(fruit, (40,40))
    fruit_surface = fruit2.get_rect(center = (400, 200))  
    screen.blit(fruit2, self.pos) 

pygame.init()
cell_size = 40
cell_number = 20
screen = pygame.display.set_mode((cell_sizecell_number,cell_size10))
pygame.display.set_caption('Snake Game')
icon = pygame.image.load('Downloads/voadi-snake-cyan-portrait.png').convert_alpha()
pygame.display.set_icon(icon)
Clock = pygame.time.Clock()

Fruit = FRUIT()
Snake = SNAKE()

while True:
for event in pygame.event.get():
if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
pygame.quit()
exit()

screen.fill(('black'))
Fruit.draw_fruit()
Snake.draw_snake()

pygame.display.update()
Clock.tick(60)

hey guys, can someone assist me to understand why I can't see my snake on my screen?

[open plover]

!code

[frank field]

Formatting code on Discord

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```py
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```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[low ocean]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/LESQ

hey guys, can someone assist me to understand why I can't see my snake on my screen?

[limber veldt]

I'm not entirely sure why you're not seeing anything but loading an image 60 times per second can't be helping. In your main loop, you are calling .draw_fruit() which is loading the fruit image and scaling it every frame. Try loading the image and transforming it in the FRUIT.__init__() method and saving it as self.image then in the draw_fruit() method, simply blit self.image at (self.pos_x, self.pos_y)

In short, load images outside of the main loop, never inside or during that 60 frames per second

[low ocean]

Thanks for your response, I'll do just that.

[limber veldt]

Something like so, maybe some details you'll still need to work out, but get the image during init and save it in a variable, in this case, as an attribute of your FRUIT() class ```py

class FRUIT:
def init(self):
self.pos_x = random.randint(0, 800)
self.pos_y = random.randint(0, 400)
self.pos = Vector2(self.pos_x, self.pos_y)
self.image = pygame.image.load('Downloads/apple.png').convert_alpha()
self.image = pygame.transform.scale(self.image, (40,40))
self.rect = self.image.get_rect(center = (self.pos_x, self.pos_y))

def draw_fruit(self, screen):
    screen.blit(self.image, self.rect)```

Then when the snake eats the fruit, you can just re-randomize the instance's .pos_x and .pos_y so it draws somewhere else

And set the new values to the instance's rect.center

I'd probably make a little method to place the fruit, something like py def place_friut(self): self.rect.center = (random.randint(0, 800), random.randint(0, 800)) and just call it to move the fruit

Most implementations of snake I've seen are on a grid, in fact, I think all of them, so you might want to work that out too, in which case randomizing the fruit position would need to be slightly different

[low ocean]

Okay, thank you so much. I will check out a few of the snake videos with the grid to understand their logic and see whether it can assist me.

[limber veldt]

Snake is a great game to practice working with a grid and many games use a grid in some way, so yeah, good idea

[next estuary]

I got enemies working in my python game

[faint dagger]

whats the most popular, best, and 'easiest' game engine or framework/library to use (pygame), if i want to maybe look for job internships once i go to university (after a few more years), and make decent quality games preferably 3d but i dont mind 2d, maybe for game jams? Give me options, not a straight answer and tell me why.

[tired reef]

what size should I use for pixle art

[raven kernel]

if this is your first time id recommend 16x16

[tired reef]

thank you

[vagrant saddle]

for game jams you certainly want something that is easy to share/export to web , like pygame-ce or Panda3D.

[blazing geyser]

I heard pygame is a good bet for just starting out

I think the most important criteria initially is that the learning curve isnt so steep that you get frustrated

As a learner, whatever works to get out of "planning to do" and start the "doing"

[blazing geyser]

It's kind of funny to see a happy celebration saying "I got enemies! Yay!"

But congrats for getting enemies into the game

[next estuary]

It's been a bit of a journey getting so many objects rendered with shaders, I'm not very good at GLSL so while all the python / vectorized physics calculations were fairly straightforward, drawing everything has not been. Ursina has a lot of nice features but the built in entity system has proven to be far too slow, especially for spawning / despawning entities. I had to write my own entity management system that uses numpy arrays to store all the data / handle the calculations, then pass the array data to several shaders for rendering (for things like health, drawing projectiles / enemies). The hard part was figuring how to draw everything to scale with the internal physics system and making sure everything continues to draw right when the window resizes

The actual rendering is done by stacking a bunch of quads and applying a shader on top of each one, this way debug layers and other stuff can be toggled on and off

Also some layers don't need to be updated as often as others which means less load on the GPU overall than if it was all rendered in one shader

[limber veldt]

Feels like pygame has a lot of tutorials too, like it's really popular

[tame harbor]

Thoughts on this Python community? Jai is a programming language in beta phase. Specifically targeted for gaming. Should we port this over to Python?

[naive elm]

any info on pygame

I have never used it... anyone have a link to documentation

[raven kernel]

https://pyga.me/docs/

[vagrant saddle]

there are plently of very open lang around with vibrant communities, i don't really see the point of this one. Also "targeted for gaming." : could be awfully restrictive for a career choice.

[tame harbor]

I think as robust of a programming language as Python is, Jai can be forked or ported over in a way similar to C and Rust. This in essence, would only further strengthen Python’s portability and versatility as a programming language in various domains.

[modern flint]

Well what are the proposed advantages of Jai?

[vagrant saddle]

the fact the minimalistic doc is not searchable and youtube driven maybe ?

[tame harbor]

The only docs or information I could find are listed here:

• https://inductive.no/jai/
• https://github.com/BSVino/JaiPrimer/blob/master/JaiPrimer.md
  it’s original designer has been working in the gaming industry for a long time. Jonathan Blow. He seems a bit like a colorful character. But gamers are always colorful people in my opinion lol I agree @vagrant saddle the fact that it is a programming language geared for gaming, it is definitely not Python. Python is structured in its development.

[modern flint]

Yeah, Wikipedia says that Blow is working on the language at the same time as he's working on his game engine and his newest game
So I don't think the language is in a stage where I, as a noob, am able or willing to pick it up

[vagrant saddle]

tbh i'd prefer spending more time on static cpython compilation with mypyc and have libpython sandboxed or or not for plugins. At least that way you can go from pygame/panda3d simple example to full compiled games at your pace

[modern flint]

"Jai does not and will never feature garbage collection or any kind of automatic memory management." from JaiPrimer seems like a hard sell too, especially for new devs like me, I mostly look for simplicity and ease of use
Although I'm biased of course

[vagrant saddle]

i'm biased too, but that attitude won't beat Nim-lang if (when) it comes to games

having optionnal GC bundled in is priceless

[tame harbor]

I agree, Jai has to compete with Rust or a programming language like Zig first. Python is very versatile.

I don’t know much about Nim-lang will check it out

[modern flint]

Yeah and I don't think I've heard of Nim or Jai much before and people talk about Rust all the time... so it has a lot of momentum going for it
I even started learning a bit of Rust in case I really need performance and I liked it

[vagrant saddle]

you should have a look, it has a great module to make it fully interoperable with libpython

[bold hill]

Is there a way to make a shop kind of game in pygame

[vagrant saddle]

2d or 3d ?

[bold hill]

2d

[vagrant saddle]

then yes sure

[bold hill]

Wait is py game good for simulating gravity and other simulations?

[vagrant saddle]

drawing libraries and physic engines are quite disconnected but you can have bullet/box2d/pymunk/nova working with pygame easily eg pygame-ce + nova https://pmp-p.ddns.net/pygbag/wip/nova-car-sim-async/

[bold hill]

Well I have to work with solar body mass

[vagrant saddle]

you may be interested by https://github.com/cosmonium/cosmonium

[neon cave]

guys

can i ask something?

how i can do roblox verification bot

[vagrant saddle]

you already did 😄

that you may not ask though it sounds like circumventing some software/Eula

[neon cave]

pls help

[bold hill]

I found a video, but do I have to put it in a definition for the game to work? That's what they did not in the video but I'm wondering if there's a way to get around that

[faint dagger]

is c++ the best language better than python for game dev without an engine? and if so what framework is best with it

[grim abyss]

c++ is a 🚀 python's a jet!

Unity(c#) is where it's at...

[faint dagger]

well im currently learning godot.. is that alright?

[grim abyss]

Godot is cool too!

[normal silo]

What makes a language "best?"

Is this the actual question you want answered?

What makes a framework "best?"

[faint dagger]

Yes

[normal silo]

These are questions for you to answer. What do you think makes a language "best?" What does "best" mean?

[faint dagger]

The I guess easiest to learn even though they're not easy

But I've already decided on using godot for game development for now

After I finish learning the basics of python

[normal silo]

Ok, so in game development, learning the language will be the smallest part of your development journey. Just make things, don't worry about choosing the "best" options, just do.

[faint dagger]

Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and learn godot to make games

[dawn quiver]

Hello

[echo lynx]

currently learning that

[shell drift]

Hey guys I'm thinking of attempting to make a game, what do I need to know before I start and what app is best for making a game in python. ( I want to make something simple 2d preferably)

[raven kernel]

you can choose any of the libraries, its more important you know some basic oop so you can use external modules without thinking its black magic :)

so yeah, basic oop and python should be enough to start making some games

[pine smelt]

its probably worth mentioning pygame and panda3d have pretty big communities with lots of tutorials, documentation etc etc that can help when ur starting out

[normal silo]

You should learn the mathematics typically used in game development. If you know the math, you can make games with anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjOdtSu4Lm4&list=PLImQaTpSAdsArRFFj8bIfqMk2X7Vlf3XF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPfxjQ6sqrc

(If anyone has any other resources for game math (especially books), please do post them, I learned it another way so I don't have a ton of references, I know these are good by skimming them)

[foggy python]

Working on VR stuff in Python:
https://youtu.be/Pms4Ia6DREk
Source: https://github.com/DaFluffyPotato/pyvr-example

[pine smelt]

are you planning on making a proper project with this

[foggy python]

yep

making it multiplayer rn

[faint dagger]

does anyone have any recommendations for me to make a game that would contribute to progress to making a 2d open world rpg?

[obsidian cipher]

hello everyone i am from squid game season 2 and i specialize in scratch and i am -12 months old and i have 18+ years of experience

you can call me skibiddi Sigma

[night bridge]

everyone test this program its a animation software with a color selector and onion skinning you need pygame to run the controls are

1. to make a new frame click space
2. click enter to view your animation
   dm me if you want to beta test the program

[sly surge]

So do any of you use python on Blender

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-burmese-python-python-snake-python-snake-gif-23678458

[faint dagger]

Hey guys I am wondering what I should do after following along with a YouTube tutorial by Clear Code, on making a simple pong game, which I have created. I feel like I didn't learn much by just copying his code. For now I will review the code and see what it is actually doing, does anyone have any other suggestions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf3-aDXG8q4
This is the video link btw

[normal silo]

Make a list of the basic building blocks that you could use to make other games. Examples, rendering a rectangle, moving rectangles with some speed, collision.

Try to write your own code for each of these / create a template, and explanation of the code (imagine you are teaching it to someone else).

[faint dagger]

Hm someone else suggested adding a feature to the pong game, so currently I am working on a wall in the middle of the screen that acts as an obstacle.

[normal silo]

This can be done once you have this list.

You can also make a new similar game using only those building blocks. Given the ones I listed you could make Breakout.

[faint dagger]

So how exactly should I make my list? Do I like write down a feature like 'collision' for example, then write steps on how to do it using my code?

[normal silo]

Yes, write down how you did it, then explain it, in detail, then generalize it, see if you can modify it or set it up so it can be used in more situations than where you found it.

For example, if you have collision with screen left border, you can generalize to all 4 borders.

[faint dagger]

All right thanks

[normal silo]

Once you have a decent number of building blocks, create a plan of how you are going to compose them to make something new, by looking at another game like Breakout shown above, and listing which building blocks are used, where and how (what variation of them?).

(Basically pattern matching what you see in the other game you are trying to make with the building blocks you have)

(Like how a film director might break down a scene in a film)

Another important way to generalize the building blocks is in count, so for example, you have 2 paddles, but what about 3, 4, ..., N paddles?

Or any number of balls?

[normal silo]

I will also add that I don't think this format for tutorials is very good. What these kinds of videos lack is a planning phase where you break down the scene like I described and form a plan, then show how to write the code for each part (executing the plan).

It only loosely has this. It does not look at the game of Pong and plan it out specifically.

The video should then refer back to the initial plan between parts so the viewer knows where they are currently at in the plan as a reminder, and where they are going next.

(A whiteboard part of the video)

[faint dagger]

Could someone who knows pygame here help me figure out how the KEYDOWN and KEYUP works and how they are different?

[whole garnet]

KEYDOWN only fires when a key gets pressed and KEYUP only fires when the key is released

they're just event types tho, so you do if event.type == pygame.KEYDOWN and event.key == ...:

[faint dagger]

Ohh that makes a lot of sense

[faint dagger]

Yeah I know

[spice ember]

Pleas y'all should check out this video I made about a year ago. Should look continue the YouTube channel

https://youtu.be/mYBHY-RXNKQ?si=8BzQINZHRRhWEjAv

[vagrant saddle]

hmm one year ago pygame-ce already had web support not just mac/win/lin

[faint dagger]

hey guys im not sure if this is the right channel, but I'm wondering what tutorial/series from these two I should follow. They are both pretty similar (both are action platformers) I like both but I can't really 'try' both of them, since both of them take a couple of hours, I could waste time.

First tutorial:
https://youtu.be/2gABYM5M0ww?si=c2nFQVvSgvDcZtyM

Second tutorial:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjcN1EyupaQm20hlUE11y9y8EY2aXLpnv&si=-uq_IAdIho3m-olZ

[unborn owl]

is here the right channel to ask for help

[sly surge]

I guess

I want to know where do they release their projects publically

[unborn owl]

well in this case I am having trouble with a selfmade script thats showing for me impossible to understand errorcodes

if anyone is willing to help me i will be wery thankful

[next estuary]

Got instancing / shader buffers working better, I moved everything from object to numpy arrays so I could vectorize calculations.
I forgot to set the cooldown on enemy fire rate and got this cool effect

[next estuary]

Just gotta figure out how to vectorize the math to get getting enemies to not overlap and my little "game engine" should be done

[next estuary]

Got it working, albiet a little glitchy with more than ~8 colliding entities

[next estuary]

Much better

[normal silo]

Both, a couple of hours wasted will be nothing compared to the total time spent making a game.

Do all the learning resources.

Get a book too if you can.

Don't worry about wasting time, game development and learning it is measured in years (and really it's not a waste, if you plan on programming in any form, learning game development will make you improve a lot at it (because game development is a bit of everything)).

[tawdry quarry]

Hi, I'm new. My English is bad, I apologize for that.

[pine smelt]

btw its normally easier for people to help if you just ask what u want help with directly

"dont ask if someone can help, ask for help"

people tend to reply more readily

[tawdry quarry]

I don't know python but I want to try making a game

[round obsidian]

start with the basics of Python, and you can add game making to it as a project

[tawdry quarry]

I wanted to talk to the community about how realistic this is, from zero to a full-fledged game.

[tawdry quarry]

may i know what knowledge is enough to make a simple game?

[candid blaze]

Any python, cython, or GLSL devs looking for a new project to join on long term?

We hav been in development for 8+ months and we are doing another phase of hiring. Our Steam launch is soon.

[round obsidian]

a simple game like Pong would be possible in not that many lines of code

[tawdry quarry]

I'm not talking about the number of lines. For example, basic/intermediate/high level of knowledge of Python, pygame, how to install a game, how to determine the requirements for a PC. I want to understand the list of things that you need to be able to do/know.

[round obsidian]

ok, that's actually an excellent question. Yes, you need some functional understanding of Python's basics to create even a simple game. You outlined most of the important stuff right there. For the kinds of games you'll make at first, a powerful PC is not important.

[candid blaze]

It comes with mainly doing; for the last 8 months, we have been developing a game in Python, and instead of using existing libraries, we decided to go ahead and create our own engine. So going down that rabbit hole gave everyone on the team an awesome game dev understanding.

Start making small projects. Grow from there.

[tawdry quarry]

Yes, I hope I'm calculating my strengths correctly and the first project will be within my capabilities. It's just that I'm unlikely to cope without help.

[candid blaze]

Do not be afraid of failure. I dont mean that in a bad way; I mean legitimately, do not be scared to pivot to new projects and go back to old ones.

[round obsidian]

Go get your hands dirty, it's fun :D

[tawdry quarry]

Infinimata almost convinced me to start. But that's tomorrow. I'll ask you where to learn all this if you tell me of course 😛

[tawdry quarry]

Okay, I'll look at the community site, there seems to be some educational material there. For now, I'm waiting for the laptop my friend promised.

[vagrant saddle]

for pygame-ce you can also use anything with a recent browser and a text editor eg https://pygame-web.github.io/showroom/pygame-scripts/org.pygame.touchpong.html

[vagrant saddle]

you can also edit on a device and at the same time run the script on another one

[next estuary]

Portals!

[tawdry quarry]

Thanks for the answer, but I think it will be difficult to make a game on a phone. If you just start learning Python.

[cunning star]

Working on a connect four project, and I am running into an issue with the tile being placed on each placeable tile in the column. I am completely unsure why and if anyone could take a look at the code, potentially see where I am being a goof. That would be appreciated! Thanks in advance

[cunning star]

Solved it through brute force, we all good

[boreal urchin]

Binding of isaac ?

[next estuary]

That's what I was trying to replicate yeah 🙂

[boreal urchin]

W project

[spice ingot]

once again

i am asking if i can download pygame/pygame-ce documentation from anywhere

[boreal urchin]

https://www.pygame.org/docs/

[spice ingot]

downloadable?

[boreal urchin]

(pip install pygame or pip3 install)

[spice ingot]

dude

i want the docs

not the library

[boreal urchin]

Scroll down and you will see them

[spice ingot]

downloadable?

[boreal urchin]

Yes it should be

[fading acorn]

do you mean book? or just the command docs.
commands docs is in the pygame website

[spice ingot]

i want something i can access offline

[fading acorn]

idk you can donwload books or just use print to the page of pygame website

https://www.pygame.org/ftp/contrib/pygame_docs.pdf download this is you wanna
this is just simple explain about every command , but this is old version

https://python101.readthedocs.io/pl/latest/_downloads/pygame192.pdf this too take every command from website to be pdf

[gritty frigate]

im trying to create a script when a human is detected on my screen in a screen of 1920x1080 when i hold shift it will lock the ingame cursor on the human but its not working correctly it doesnt lock the ingame reticle on the player only the default windows crosshair im also using yolov8 for human detecton it was made by chatgpt im to stupid to do it myself

[brisk yew]

the documentation is already included in your installation of pygame(-ce), all you need to do is just run python -m pygame.docs

[spice ingot]

i love you!

[boreal urchin]

Anyone here using godot or other engines?

[vagrant saddle]

if you search python friendly game engines there are Harfang3D / Cave engine, but personnally i prefer game libraries like pygame-ce or Panda3D

[unborn owl]

yoyo how do i make a loop

in pyhton

[vagrant saddle]

for loop in "python": print(f"{loop = }") but this is not the right channel for such questions ...

[ocean temple]

How to make pybullet.createVisualShape(pybullet.GEOM_MESH) ?
I plug numpy flattened vertices and faces(to indices) and it does not show it.. like if i put GEOM_SPHERE or smth, it renders..
I want to make a shape in code too, without files in-between, is ot possible?
And also when ali search about pybullet, i get few not enough explained examples and no documentation...

[ocean temple]

Oh, i figured it yay

Other question how to make it render it not as it is smooth but as it is like edgy?

[next estuary]

Found some more optimizations, added gravity, reduced entity cramming, and made the offset resolver more efficient

[whole garnet]

isn't this a top-down? what's the purpose of making characters naturally walk in a single direction

[next estuary]

I want a boss fight where the boss can slam everything in the room in different directions

[graceful wraith]

i am getting boorder

what todo

[boreal urchin]

It can be nerf right ?

[next estuary]

I'm not sure what you mean

[stray fractal]

you guys are really good a coding i like the work nice

[crimson hound]

@stray fractal Why are you spamming?

[stray fractal]

i am trying to get verification on the voice chat so i cant talk with the people

sorry 😦

[crimson hound]

Read #voice-verification carefully. Especially the big flashing sign saying that you should not spam.

[boreal urchin]

Making a strong boss or character weaker

If a character has abilities that are too strong or too easy to use, they may be nerfed to make them more challenging to use effectively.

[gentle junco]

can anyone help me implement modularisation into a game in python

[next estuary]

Ahh, yeah I have the game design aspect figured out right now it's more of a technical focus on the physics systen

[dawn quiver]

Anyone know of a steamworks sdk integration library that isn't 2 years out of date like SteamworksPy?

[vagrant saddle]

i think that one may work https://github.com/DaFluffyPotato/SteamworksPy

[tawdry quarry]

What other models are there besides a field of zeros and ones?

[nimble sky]

looking for any game in python

[still jetty]

hi

I have a problem

I follow a tutorial to create a game and I don't know why but my game is way speeder than the game in the tutorial while I do the same

https://youtu.be/lmdjyU1YVLw?list=PLMS9Cy4Enq5KsM7GJ4LHnlBQKTQBV8kaR&t=1421

watch the difference

why does it have a difference ?

[whole garnet]

without seeing your code there is no way to see the difference and what you're doing wrong

considering how fast your console is printing compared to the video tho, it might be that you're not setting a set fps

[still jetty]

I think it is the fps

but I don't know how to change or anything

I code on pycharm

[still jetty]

I'm quit sure in fact

[whole garnet]

import pygame

clock = pygame.time.Clock()  # Creating a clock instance

while True:  # My main game loop
    # game logic
    clock.tick(60)  # 60 = 60 fps

[still jetty]

I go test the clock tick

thanks !!

thank u so much !

[whole garnet]

np

[marble jewel]

Isometria Devlog 51 - Internationalization, Gobby Den, New Boss, Reforging! https://youtu.be/yPgk1dKmRKU

[spice ingot]

holy that looks awesome dude

[nimble sky]

anyone have any game programmed i wana play something and i can rate it

[vagrant saddle]

i think a number of people around here have published some jams games here https://itch.io/c/2563651/pygame-wasm , you can always have a look

[spice ingot]

i still dont get the point of tobleft and midbottom when using rects

what do they do

what is the point of specifying those

[limber veldt]

When using rects to position images or surfaces on the screen, those attributes define which part of the image is placed at a particular position

For example, say we have some rect and we want to place it at 200, 200, well, it's a rectangle so which part of it should be there? Here is rect.midbottom = (200, 200)

And an example of topleft = (200, 200)

pygame rects have many so-called virtual attributes https://pyga.me/docs/ref/rect.html#pygame.Rect

[median kite]

i am currently looking for panda3d game dev that could help on an editor that i am making with my team...

[frigid urchin]

dm

[quick turret]

Guys i am making a very very weird game.

called Toothbrush

[fading acorn]

this is not really good

[near glade]

snake game

[full cedar]

h

[whole garnet]

some notes:
quitting the window doesn't quit if you're on the "You lost" screen
you're able to go in opposite direction which causes you to die if you're 2< instead it should be that unless the snake is 1 you can't go in the opposite direction

[sly surge]

Nice I want to rip this and edit it

[stoic light]

would you use turtle to make a game?

[still jetty]

uuhh

idk but I would say no

[stoic light]

Ok

[modern flint]

I've never tried, but I'm guessing it would take way more effort to use turtle to make a game. Using something like pygame-ce would make more sense and you're also much more likely to find relevant tutorials and people who can help you

[stoic light]

Thanks for the feedback

[bold hill]

Do I need to put import pygame in all my files I'm my game?

[whole garnet]

if the file uses pygame then you need to import pygame

[bold hill]

What I mean is for a character positioning for Ray finding

[pine smelt]

this will apply no matter what project

[mild spear]

depends on your use case of the library ngl

e.g. you use pygame for displaying the result but not for calculating the math stuff

(I'm assuming you're making a raycaster)

[limber veldt]

Tower of Hanoi puzzle, basic version in pygame. Using left click to pickup and drop 'disks', try to move all of them from one stack to another with one rule: You cannot place larger disks atop smaller ones https://paste.pythondiscord.com/WKUA

[split crag]

I just added Controller Support to my game Seventy-2

[formal gull]

i usually use a list to keep track of all objects when i make games in pygame, but there has to be a more efficient andd better way to keep track of them. for example my code will look like:

objects = []
class Object:
  def __init__(self,...):
    ...
    objects.append(self)

I just think there has to be an easier way, especially when iterating through all objects when doing a physics update

Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated

[remote gulch]

for a physics update you should be using a spatial index

[formal gull]

what

[remote gulch]

a really simple way to do that is to use a hashgrid

[formal gull]

those are big words

[remote gulch]

it's important to be able to quickly look up objects based on their location

[formal gull]

can you dumb it down

[remote gulch]

if you just have a giant list, that's gonna be super slow to loop through everything

a "spatial index" allows you to quickly look up objects at locations, so it is indexing the objects spatially

a hash grid, a BVH tree, or a quad tree perhaps

[formal gull]

so before a physics update for each object do objects.sort(filter=lambda x:x.distance) or smth?

[remote gulch]

definitely don't do that

sorting big lists is slow

[formal gull]

bogo sort it

[remote gulch]

calculating distance is slow

sorting lists based on distance is especially slow

[formal gull]

like a dictionary?

[remote gulch]

yeah something like that

a hashgrid basically boils down to exactly that

the other two, not so much

a hashgrid is the simplest option conceptually

the most performant option is going to be to use a 3rd party library to compute physics

and that library will probably be using a bvh tree

[formal gull]

do you think it really matters if its a small level with only 100ish objects

[remote gulch]

well you said that it's inefficient, right?

don't fix it until its broken

[formal gull]

i just think that if i ever wanted to make some sort of open-world i'd have to do it some other way

[remote gulch]

yeah

using a spatial index

[formal gull]

alr thanks, ill look into it if i ever do

[remote gulch]

np

[solar spruce]

nice pfp

[bold hill]

is this ok?

e! ```py
import pygame

class Player():

player_speed = 1

player_inventory = {}

# 

def __init__(self,health,mana,stamina):

    self.health = health

    self.mana = mana 

    self.stamina = stamina

[bold hill]

Also @me other wise I won't know that you responded.

[whole garnet]

what's the question?

[bold hill]

Am I doing the class for the player correctly?

[bold hill]

Did I fill out the player class correctly?

[whole garnet]

that piece of code is too small for me to say if it's correct or not, I mean... There isn't much going on to review

[pine smelt]

Lucy in the pygame discord used a spatial hash table in her fluid sim if u want an example of one

[limber veldt]

pygame has pygame.sprite.Group() containers for sprites, maybe look into using them if your objects are sprites

[bold hill]

I know I'm just asking if it's a good start sorry I dozed off

[raven kernel]

lan game

[limber veldt]

Next up, give the players bombs and other devious devices

Reminded me of Worms: Armageddon or similar

[raven kernel]

i have a whole excalidraw page drawn out for the idea

[limber veldt]

Oh so it's going to be pvp?

[raven kernel]

the art is all placeholder for now, no vfx until im done

[raven kernel]

more like battle royale

last one standing gets to escape hell

can have any number of players technically

[limber veldt]

Looks good so far, good idea

[raven kernel]

thinking in the scale of 5-8 since thats how many friends i have who i play other lan games with

its nice that i live in a hostel so its easy to gather physical people

[naive cedar]

is anyone currently on this channel?

I was wondering if someone could look over my code as its my first real big project

how would I share it?
should I do a python help?

or I could just upload the file?

[vagrant saddle]

i think that depends on the size

[naive cedar]

Its only 250 lines

[vagrant saddle]

then try to drop it in your help post

[naive cedar]

ok

Its up and tysm in advance

[next estuary]

Got terrain collision working in my python game

[hidden sphinx]

integer1 = random.randint(-250,250)
integer2 = random.randint(-250,250)
fed.penup()
fed.goto(integer1,integer2)

import turtle as trtl
import random
fed2 = trtl.Turtle()
integer1 = random.randint(-250,250)
integer2 = random.randint(-250,250)
fed2.penup()
fed2.goto(integer1,integer2)

import turtle as trtl
import random
fed3 = trtl.Turtle()
integer1 = random.randint(-250,250)
integer2 = random.randint(-250,250)
fed3.penup()
fed3.goto(integer1,integer2)

import turtle as trtl
import random
fed4 = trtl.Turtle()
integer1 = random.randint(-250,250)
integer2 = random.randint(-250,250)
fed4.penup()
fed4.goto(integer1,integer2)

import turtle as trtl
import random
fed5 = trtl.Turtle()
integer1 = random.randint(-300,300)
integer2 = random.randint(-300,300)
fed5.penup()
fed5.goto(integer1,integer2)

wn.listen()
wn.mainloop()

I have this code where 5 turtles spawn (fed 1-5) Randomly is there a way to add a collection feature there it counts how many you have

Also is there a way to increase turtle pen size of snake with a button

[frank field]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @hidden sphinx until <t:1738957882:f> (10 minutes) (reason: newlines spam - sent 129 newlines).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[dull atlas]

!unmute 851331359086870539

[frank field]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: pardoned infraction timeout for @hidden sphinx.

[dull atlas]

@hidden sphinx , use the pastebin for long pieces of code

!paste

[frank field]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[hidden sphinx]

I think i did it right. sorry

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/LXLQ

I DID IT

[hidden sphinx]

.

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/PZVA

I formated it

[loud shell]

can someone help me making a game on a site that is called cringe by multiple people?

[barren torrent]

so I've got something.... interesting going on. I'm working on kinda porting a MUD written originally in C (now some of it's C++) and attempting to keep most of the original assets/content, which I've managed to export as JSON.

A lot of the guts, like the domain specific scripting language (DgScripts) forces me to keep certain aspects of the original database structure (or at least throw in some compatability layers...)

I've got a lot of ideas about ways to revolutionize this - by the standards of the starting point - even while keeping to a very similar design. But I'm also wondering what sort libraries or design patterns I could bring into play to go even further beyond.

Anyone got some input here?

[icy vale]

Yo guys

I wanna learn game development

I'm a beginner

How do I do it?

May I have some suggestions

[raven kernel]

with python?

[icy vale]

Yeah

[raven kernel]

once you're comfortable with using objects in python and creating your own classes, modules etc. id recommend picking up some rendering library, like pygame

then you can draw things on the screen, and the rest is up to you

start by making small games, like tic tac toe

once you get a feel for the code structure and the graphics library, you can start scaling up

[tranquil girder]

Short clip from the RPG I'm working on

[trail jackal]

Cool 😎

[spice ingot]

pygame?

[vagrant saddle]

no Ursina ( based on Panda3D )

[west oriole]

war brokers ahh graphics

how would i create a floating origin system for panda3d

without screwing up bullet physics

or networking

[west oriole]

use a tuple of ints for your grid

those are hashable :)

so you can use them as dictionary keys

[dawn quiver]

Anyone wanna help me with a pygame project?

[tame plaza]

fan game (im just bored)

[pine smelt]

oo

whats the premise

[cloud cliff]

Cool!!!

[cloud cliff]

Amazing work ❤️

[tame plaza]

Thx

[tame plaza]

Premise ?

[pine smelt]

like whats the game about

mechanics and stuff

[tame plaza]

Ohh i was just doing the main menu so i dont think about it

Just a 2D game

[pine smelt]

oh ok

[naive cedar]

why cant I see this channel by default?

I had to ctrl f an old message of mine to jump here

[whole garnet]

probably discord hid it from you, you wanna enable it in id:browse

[naive cedar]

it was checked but I just unchecked then rechecked and it fixed it

weird

would you happen to be good at commenting? Its my first time doing extensive comments for a longer program

[slow copper]

do you mean documenting or like just adding comments everywhere?

[slow copper]

Hello there everyone, I have been making a utility library for pygame for a while called game-state. This library basically allows you to structure your game's screens in an organized manner via python's OOP.

Here is a simple example-

import pygame

from game_state import State, StateManager
from game_state.errors import ExitGameError, ExitStateError

pygame.init()
pygame.display.init()
pygame.display.set_caption("Game State Example")

GREEN = (0, 255, 0)
BLUE = (0, 0, 255)


class FirstScreen(State):
   def run(self) -> None:
      # The run function executes as soon as the state has been changed to it.

      while True:
            # Our game-loop

            self.window.fill(GREEN)

            for event in pygame.event.get():
               if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
                  # Upon quitting, we raise the ExitGameError which we handle outside.

                  raise ExitGameError()

               if event.type == pygame.KEYDOWN and event.key == pygame.K_c:
                  # Check if we're clicking the " c " button.
                  # If the condition is met, we change our screen to "SecondScreen" and update
                  # the state in the manager.

                  self.manager.change_state("SecondScreen")
                  self.manager.update_state()

            pygame.display.update()  # Refreshes the screen


class SecondScreen(State):
   def run(self) -> None:
      # The exact same thing happens in the SecondScreen except we use a different
      # colour for the screen & we change our current state to FirstScreen if the
      # user presses " c ".

      while True:
            self.window.fill(BLUE)

            for event in pygame.event.get():
               if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
                  raise ExitGameError()

               if event.type == pygame.KEYDOWN and event.key == pygame.K_c:
                  self.manager.change_state(
                        "FirstScreen"
                  )  # Change our state to FirstScreen.
                  self.manager.update_state()  # Updates / resets the state.

            pygame.display.update()

def main() -> None:
   screen = pygame.display.set_mode((500, 700))
   # Create a basic 500x700 pixel window

   state_manager = StateManager(screen)
   state_manager.load_states(FirstScreen, SecondScreen)
   # We pass in all the screens that we want to use in our game / app.

   state_manager.change_state("FirstScreen")
   # Updates the current state to the desired state (screen) we want.

   while True:
      try:
            state_manager.run_state()
            # This is the entry point of our screen manager.
            # This should only be called once at start up.

      except ExitStateError as error:
            # Stuff you can do right after a state (screen) has been changed
            # i.e. Save player data, pause / resume / change music, etc...

            last_state = error.last_state
            current_state = state_manager.get_current_state()
            print(f"State has changed from: {last_state} to {current_state}")


if __name__ == "__main__":
   try:
      main()
   except ExitGameError:
      print("Game has exited successfully")

The game is controlled from the game_state.State's subclasses. These states are what each screens hold. Once we have made our screens we add them to our game_state.StateManager which handles the changing, running and updating each of the states.

This is just a basic example on how the game_state library works, I have even made some games using the library like these-
Snake Game
Stardew Valley Ripoff

Additionally i made a documentation along with a guide here: https://game-state.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html
Game State github: https://github.com/Jiggly-Balls/game-state
PyPI: https://pypi.org/project/game-state/

Please let me know any suggestions or any improvements :)

[naive cedar]

I'll put a function in to show you how I've been doing it

Ty in advance

[naive cedar]

the function was too long so I put it all into a pastebin incase I need help later aswell

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/G6WQ

[slow copper]

Wherever you mention the Raises header in your docstrings in all of your functions are wrong. You would only mention the Raises header when the exception is unhandled and in your case you have handled all of those exceptions you have mentioned which makes them useless

and also you can type hint your paramters, it will help you

other than that it seems fine for the most part

[slow copper]

by that i mean this is how you would not want your docstring to be-

REAL_PASSWORD = "test"

def get_password() -> None:
  """Prompts the user for their password and checks if it's correct
  
  Raises
  ------
  :exc:`ValueError`
    Raised when the user prompted password is incorrect
  """
  
  password = input("Enter your password: ")
  try:
    if password != REAL_PASSWORD:
      raise ValueError("Incorrect password")
  except ValueError:
    print("WRONG PASSWORRD")

def main() -> None:
  get_password()

main()

Over here you are implicitly handling the exception and also mentioning it in the docstrings which is what you would not want to do. Either you can not handle the exception or not mention it in the docstrings.

But programmitically the former would be better as one of the core aspects of functions is reusability, when you implicitly handle the exception inside the function you're limiting it's reusability as it's forced to just print something in console and finish. What if some other programmer wanted to track how many times they entered the wrong password without changing the function itself? It would unnecessarily complicate the code. This is how would you want to ideally document and make your functions-

def get_password() -> None:
  """Prompts the user for their password and checks if it's correct
  
  Raises
  ------
  :exc:`ValueError`
    Raised when the user prompted password is incorrect
  """
  
  password = input("Enter your password: ")
  if password != REAL_PASSWORD:
    raise ValueError("Incorrect password")

def main() -> None:
  try:
    get_password()
  except ValueError:
    print("WRONG PASSWORD")

main()

The above would be the correct implementation of the Raises header in the docstring because we aren't handling the error it implicitly and allowing the programmer to know what error will be raised if they call the function and they can handle the error whatever way they want.

Although its not the best example, that's pretty much what your code is like

[slow copper]

also just a nitpick, it's recommend you to wrap all your docstring to 72 characters per line to make them more readable

[naive cedar]

Tysmmm I'm going to try to figure out what half that means now lol

It's my first time actually documenting my code cuz I'm actually going to put it on GitHub

I've never done that before so I just wanted to be clear enough for the three people that might even see it

If that lol

[slow copper]

oh okay cool

[slow copper]

also the "ideal" way i mentioned you would want to document your code is rather subjective and depends on the context so although it would be good to let the function purposefully raise errors and document the error, sometimes you don't want trivial things like this to happen in some cases, so its a mix between trying to keep your code reusable and not annoying while handling minor errors and stuff

[naive cedar]

I see

Ill have to come back and work on this later cuz apparently I have stuff to do

tysm

[latent scaffold]

Is it just me are is it that making a game with python seems like the coolest project you could make

I use to think hacking tools would be the most interesting to me but black hat python book is outdated

[hearty tapir]

Hacking tools seem pretty cool initially and there are some areas where when you make unique enough ones or customizable enough ones that it is pretty cool, but most aren't that interesting. I'd argue reverse engineering tools in python for analyzing and displaying stuff is more interesting, likewise with stuff in line with greyhat python.

Making a game in python seems like making a game on any other platform, just in Python.

[toxic cobalt]

what are you using to make this game ?

[robust egret]

that's pretty nice, won't it be better to call those classes frames or scenes

[robust egret]

also, I don't think exceptions have to have Error in them, except ExitState makes it sound better

but that's a matter of teste

[slow copper]

lmao idk i just felt states feel more better

[slow copper]

ye true, ill make that change

thanks for the suggestion

[nimble sky]

does anyone have simple python game? i want to test

[pine smelt]

theres a bunch on the pygame itch

https://itch.io/jams/hosted-by-pygame-community

they recently had the fall jam

[nimble sky]

it says request problem

[pine smelt]

?

[bold hill]

how do i write raycasting

[gaunt nacelle]

does anyone want to help me with my game i made in python

[vagrant saddle]

here's one for mobile https://pygame-web.github.io/showroom/pygame-scripts/org.pygame.touchpong.html and plenty of others for desktop https://itch.io/c/2563651/pygame-wasm

[naive cedar]

does anyone know how do live input formatting?

[grim abyss]

Is anyone in #game-development interested in collaborating on a project that utilizes an ai work model to generate 3D models/scenes from a prompt? Something very loosely along the lines of this: https://youtu.be/ytomieYqUCQ?si=f3nyjWBKis8A_Rn5

if you're even remotely interested in something like this + game-dev and you're skilled in python I'd like to collaborate with you on an oss project

[vagrant saddle]

i would be more interested in automatic assets tagging/indexing with voice search and on the fly ( in game ) placement in a gltf scene than generating random models with shady copyright issues

[grim abyss]

where would this sit in a content creation pipeline for a game?

[vagrant saddle]

as a in game popup for a simplisitic panda3d game "framework" with some camera presets ( fps / tps / isometric ... )

[grim abyss]

so you're envisioning model placement via voice-search while in the game-engine editor?

[vagrant saddle]

exactly that

[grim abyss]

where are these models coming from?

[vagrant saddle]

random stash on the hard drive exotic format , no tag , total mess

the index must be super clever to sort that out

[grim abyss]

are you working on a 3d game editor?

[vagrant saddle]

game editor is too big concept, i leave that to godot team

[grim abyss]

so what's your goal?

[vagrant saddle]

i want simple tools compositing

[grim abyss]

so you want to extend an existing editor?

[vagrant saddle]

that could be an option eg https://discourse.panda3d.org/t/voyager-in-game-scene-editor/27438/2

[grim abyss]

ahhh, so you want an editor on top of panda3d

[vagrant saddle]

no it should be able to work with gtlf format regardless of engine or editor used

[grim abyss]

the ai worker model? makes sense.....

i think there's a vast 3d model repository but I don't know if one exists that's free to use...

and they would have to be in gltf format.... conversion to gltf is possible

[cloud cliff]

Is there anything way other than pygame to make games and how?

[cloud cliff]

I did not see it sorry

[grim abyss]

you're good bo

[latent scaffold]

What do you guys use to make your own pixel images for games?

[mystic forge]

Anyone down to test my online physics based game?

we can 1v1, 2v2, or 3v3

[robust egret]

any editor that could edit images should work

[limber veldt]

I use gimp, it's a little quirky but works fine, aseprite looks good too, though I haven't tried that

[slow copper]

I use piskel

Very simple with not many advance tools, good for beginners

[tired reef]

This is the function I'm thinking of using

[tired sapphire]

I see.

[tired reef]

Nothing wines I need to find a different Master function that allows for 4 directional movements

[tired sapphire]

What kind of movement do you want?

[modern flint]

I really like Aseprite, and there's a guide on GitHub to build it from source so you can get it for free that way

[tired reef]

Movement that will work properly

[tired sapphire]

🤦

[tired reef]

Sorry

Trying to learn how to make neural network
And I I'm trying to make my own playground

And I don't know whether can you use a sigmoid to control the decision to walk in a specific direction or what

[torn plover]

Can somebody tell me why the background is not loading? What is wrong in this code? And yes, background.jpg is in the same folder as this file.

import pygame
import sys

pygame.init()

SCRN_SIZE = (SCRN_WIDTH, SCRN_HEIGHT) = (700, 500)
scrn = pygame.display.set_mode(SCRN_SIZE)

clock = pygame.time.Clock()

bg = pygame.image.load("background.jpg")

while True:
    for event in pygame.event.get():
        if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
            pygame.quit()
            sys.exit()

    scrn.blit(bg, (0, 0))
    clock.tick(60)

Nvm figured it out, my dumb brain forgot to add pygame.display.update() smh

[pine smelt]

Ms paint 👍

[grim abyss]

the hell you say! lol

[pine smelt]

for small sprites it works well

[tranquil girder]

Wasn't Owlboy pixeled in paint

[grim abyss]

oh #game-development ... why must thee sleep 😟

[feral scroll]

Ela vira mortal, vira vira mortal

[tired reef]

What is Panda 3D?

[dawn quiver]

Are games written in python able to work on any system?

[pine smelt]

ye its just about how u compile + distribute it

[pine smelt]

another python library for gamedev

well no thats ursina which is based on panda3d

ig a better term is just framework?

[grim abyss]

@lusty pine I don't know if you have all the music for your game but If you need a track or two...

[lusty pine]

eyyyy

That would be pretty dope! I have some songs, but I could def do with some more

[grim abyss]

did the video I posted show up? it's working?

the video is me messing around in FL Studio...

[lusty pine]

Yah, I can see the video

also, @grim abyss re your question earlier, I am using Tiled and their .tmx filetype and importing it into pygame using pytmx

[vagrant saddle]

for pygame-ce games : yes

[vagrant saddle]

a very capable 3D game library written in C++(fast), but with premium support for cpython ( excellent scripting and still fast )

[vagrant saddle]

and in case you really want them to work everywhere you can use web target like https://itch.io/c/2563651/pygame-wasm or https://itch.io/c/3724091/panda3d-wasm

[median kite]

who's interested for an editor for panda3d with pyqt5 user interface? we will bring an interface to panda3d to make python game development easier, if you are dm me!

[fluid grail]

gambling

ill put here the code

uhm

how to put text in a code layout in discord?

from tkinter import *
import random

# function for click + click counter
icons = ["🔔","🍒","🍊","💎"," ♡ ","🍀","🪙"," 1 "," 2 "," 3 "," 4 "," 5 "," 6 "," 7 "," 8 "," 9 "]
def gamble() :
    global icons
    index1 = random.randint(0,15)
    index2 = random.randint(0,15)
    index3 = random.randint(0,15)
    if icons[index1] == icons[index2] and icons[index2] == icons[index3] :
        print("oui i i i a u u u ui a u u u i i u a u")
    else :
        print("lin gan guli guli guli guli lin cha wa lin gan guli gan gu")
    label.config(text=f"{icons[index1]}│{icons[index2]}│{icons[index3]}")
    

# window declaration : here will be everything displayed
window = Tk()
window.title('🎰Hot Casino🎰') 
window.config(bg = '#141414')
window.geometry("800x410")

# button declaration : here will be the button wich could increase the counter by the number of clicks
button = Button(window, text='GAMBLE')
button.config(font=('Verdana',50,'bold'))
button.config(command=gamble)
button.config(compound='bottom')
button.config(bg="#008a35")
button.config(fg="#ffffff")
button.config(activebackground="#009c3c")
button.config(activeforeground="#ffffff")
button.config(borderwidth=10)

# label declaration : here will be the label where would be displayed the number of clicks (with the help of the counter)
label = Label(window,text="    │    │    ")
label.config(font=('Arial',100,'bold'))
label.config(bg="#d4ae17")
label.config(fg="#8a1000")
label.config(borderwidth=5)

# packing the GUI objects
label.pack(pady=(50, 50))
button.pack(pady=(0, 50))
window.mainloop()

ok i figured out how

im new in tkinter so it took me a while to do this code... please tell me your opinion and if you have any advice, tell me please

[vagrant saddle]

your code is nice, but tkinter itself is old tech that does not blend very well in games and can prevent sharing them on some platforms

[grim abyss]

yeah save yourself some headache and get away from tk. For game dev check out pygame and then there's this: https://github.com/pythonarcade/arcade which I prefer over pygame!

[rugged yoke]

Guys

What do you mean like you guys all ways say C++ is fast

wdym by "fast"

OHHHH

THE PICTURE FOR THE SERVER CHANGED !!!!!!!!

[vagrant saddle]

in python you can have extensions written in eg C/C++/Rust whatever "compiled static language"', they may do the same thing as python code but execute often million times faster. So when picking up a game engine/library you may want one which is C or C++ extensions based