game-development

[manic totem]

and its doesnt work

wait

ok it work again

ok something weird happened

i try to move an object but instead of just moving its just keep adding more object to the screen

why is this happened i thought i know how to do this

you use pygame.display.update() to solve this issue right

[limber veldt]

You use that once per frame to redraw the entire screen, not to update moving things

[manic totem]

oh shit

how do you update a movement then

[limber veldt]

By changing where you draw them

More specifically and also more generally, by moving the rect where you are drawing it

[manic totem]

oh

[limber veldt]

Like: Clear screen, update positions of moving things, draw everything, update the display

If using a background image, draw that instead of clear screen

[manic totem]

ah ok

im getting alot more understandable about these now

[limber veldt]

My main loop in the chess game ```py
def run(self):
while True:
dt = CLOCK.tick(FPS) * 0.001
pygame.display.set_caption(f'{dt}')
self.get_events()

        self.draw()

        self.update(dt)```

There's a lot happening in each of those methods but that's the flow, get events, draw, update

Now maybe I implement arrow snapping using these new arrows, they'll just need an update method along with their __init__() methods

[limber veldt]

Nice, kinda cludgy code atm but it is working

[idle plinth]

Do you guys recomend me Roblox to earn money?

Cuz people say Roblox is good to earn money, innit?

[limber veldt]

Oh much cleaner code than I had ```py

def drawing_arrows(self, dt): # state
    if self.init_state:
        print(f'entered {self.state}')
        self.init_state = False
        pos = pygame.mouse.get_pos()
        from_spot = self.get_clicked_spot()
        if from_spot:
            print(from_spot.filerank)
            self.from_spot = from_spot
        self.arrow = None

    buttons = pygame.mouse.get_pressed()
    if not buttons[2]:
        self.set_state(self.last_state)
        for arrow in self.arrow_group:
            if arrow is not self.arrow:
                if arrow.from_spot is self.arrow.from_spot and arrow.to_spot is self.arrow.to_spot:
                    arrow.kill()
                    self.arrow.kill()
                    return
    to_spot = self.get_clicked_spot()
    if to_spot is not self.from_spot and not self.arrow:
        self.arrow = Arrow(self.board, ui_images['arrow90'], ui_images['arrow'], self.arrow_color, self.from_spot, to_spot, self.arrow_group)

[idle plinth]

yoooo

[limber veldt]

Hi

Just like lichess arrows, only for legal moves

[teal cargo]

nice!

Seems like you were able to implement my idea!

[limber veldt]

Pretty nice yeah, I can usually implement most things I see, lol

Didn't need to change my arrows too much, just put the arrow making in an update() method, so they can be redrawn in realtime

Along with a little logic, but nothing too difficult

[teal cargo]

ahh, i see

[limber veldt]

All three of your ideas, but the first one was kind of already done, the pieces shown lately are my originals

I have two sets, maybe more eventually

[limber veldt]

Really cool how there's a way to fill a different color on an image, changing my green arrows to any color

[uncut dove]

fixed that now

tho it does stretch if you make walls tall

[slow copper]

It's possible but it ain't easy

[slow copper]

You'll have to compete against millions of other games and developers and try bring unique among them. And even if you manage to do all that there is no guarantee it'll work out (If you don't promote and be active in public to gain some attention)

Honestly you can say the same to game dev outside Roblox too

[idle plinth]

i just wanna 1000 euros bruv😭

[slow copper]

well no career is easy unless you have passion for it and dont do programming in general just for the money

[idle plinth]

I love programing, but not in Lua

i know, Lua is cofusing

[slow copper]

lua is pretty similar to python

but it does have some wierd stuff tho

like array index starting from 1

funny stuff

[uncut dove]

roblox is a bad way to earn money, ill tell you that

you have to be pretty skilled at making games, and if you are good at making games you should rather work for someone making a proper game

[limber veldt]

Now not only restores the rgb to the blend mode but also the h, s and v, updating the color wheel dots and triangle too

[limber veldt]

colorsys! To the rescue, but at least I have the math anyway ```py
# hi = floor(self.color_wheel.angle / 60) % 6
# f = self.color_wheel.angle / 60 - floor(self.color_wheel.angle / 60)
# p = (self.val * (1 - self.sat))
# q = (self.val * (1 - f * self.sat))
# t = (self.val * (1 - (1 - f) * self.sat))

    # if hi == 0: 
    #     r = self.val
    #     g = t
    #     b = p
    # if hi == 1: 
    #     r = q
    #     g = self.val
    #     b = p
    # if hi == 2: 
    #     r = p
    #     g = self.val
    #     b = t
    # if hi == 3: 
    #     r = p
    #     g = q
    #     b = self.val
    # if hi == 4: 
    #     r = t
    #     g = p
    #     b = self.val
    # if hi == 5: 
    #     r = self.val
    #     g = p
    #     b = q

    # self.r = round(r * 255)
    # self.g = round(g * 255)
    # self.b = round(b * 255)
    h = self.color_wheel.angle / 360
    color = colorsys.hsv_to_rgb(h, self.sat, self.val)
    self.r = color[0]*255
    self.g = color[1]*255
    self.b = color[2]*255```

[rugged coral]

where can i host my game server for free?

[vagrant saddle]

maybe https://www.pythonanywhere.com or host it yourself

[rugged coral]

i tried that but without success

import socket
import pickle
import threading

players = {}

def player_thread(connection, player):
    print("Neuer Player verbunden", player)
    players[player] = {"x": 0, "y": 0, "z": 0}

    while True:
        try:
            data = connection.recv(2048)
            if not data:
                break
            
            data = pickle.loads(data)
            players[player] = data

            connection.sendall(pickle.dumps(players))

        except:
            pass
    
    del players[player]
    connection.close()

def start_server():
    server = socket.socket()
    server.bind(("0.0.0.0", 9999))
    server.listen()

    print("Server gestartet. Warte auf Spieler ...")

    while True:
        connection, player = server.accept()
        thread = threading.Thread(target=player_thread, args=(connection, player))
        thread.start()

if __name__ == "__main__":
    start_server()```

[vagrant saddle]

how many players and what game type ?

[rugged coral]

is just a 3d world with ursina and no player limits

[pine plinth]

https://py.space is pretty cool

[vagrant saddle]

you will have a player limit unless you go UDP or serverless, and most vps hosting will kick you out for TCP

a part from that don't use pickle, it is unsecure

[rugged coral]

maybe, just want to make a online 3d realtime multiplayer world yk

[vagrant saddle]

realtime ? that is not possible on internet because of network latency.

[rugged coral]

yk what i mean

[vagrant saddle]

also here's some material about networking/panda3d/ursina https://discourse.panda3d.org/t/distributed-networking-astron-and-owner-view/27232

[honest heron]

roblox can be good

I know a few people who have made millions I used to know the owner of gpo way back way and more games the only thing I could say is that they were passionate and took their time.

don't do it for the cash because then u will make cash grabs and those suck do it cuz u enjoy it ahd u will make alot of money

[idle plinth]

uhum

[uncut dove]

https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ sorry its not good

there are a couple games that made millions, but id rather play the lottery instead of trying to make a roblox game

tldr the house always wins, and roblox would not get that sucessful if many devs were making profits

[graceful yew]

class BasicSpriteGroup(pygame.sprite.Group):
    def __init__(self):
        super().__init__()
        self.display_surface = pygame.display.get_surface()
        self.offset = Vector2()

    def draw(self, player):
        target_position = player.rect.center
        self.offset.x = -(target_position[0] - SCREEN_WIDTH / 2)
        self.offset.y = -(target_position[1] - SCREEN_HEIGHT / 2)
        # does not work
        # self.sprites().sort(key=lambda e: e.rect.centery)
        # for sprite in self.sprites():
        for sprite in sorted(self, key=lambda e: e.rect.centery):
            self.display_surface.blit(sprite.image, sprite.rect.topleft + self.offset)

why does in-place sorting the sprites not work as opposed to sorting a copy?

[limber veldt]

Gotta be something to do with the AbstractGroup() handling of its self.sprites()

I've just been refactoring. I have this panel/menu that I was sending all these buttons to from main so it can handle their behaviors. I just moved all the buttons into the panel's menu opener button and pass them from there to the panel. Maybe I should go ahead and move all of that code into the panel itself

As the panel slides, all those button rects need to update their positions, that's why the panel needs the buttons. Plus, they kinda categorically fit there

It's a settings panel, it might as well have all its own buttons and handle them. The buttons themselves have an action that is just a method in main(), so main really doesn't need to know anything about them

[covert rose]

My 3d python based open source game engine is finished ,source code had been updated with the latest update:(new version 5.5.6 had been released)
https://github.com/hamedsheygh/supePY

[limber veldt]

Nice, I put a blend on the labels too, so they change color with the color wheel

[limber veldt]

Fifteen different buttons in 145 lines https://paste.pythondiscord.com/OSJA

Or something like that

Actually only 11 buttons

But not bad

[covert rose]

lol, nice👍🏻

[covert rose]

can i play it?

[limber veldt]

Almost time to publish

[covert rose]

tell me when you done!

[limber veldt]

Will do

[covert rose]

[cerulean nimbus]

holy damn you even added colorpicker and stuff damn

[limber veldt]

Yeah, I never made one before and thought it would be appropriate for this game. Anyone with any kind of color issue can make the board almost any color they wish

[cerulean nimbus]

im stuck rewritinging my deprectated folder. mostly stuck because i rewrite 1 part and add 3-5 features to it 😭

[cerulean nimbus]

your chess has grown lots over the last couple off weeks

[cerulean nimbus]

like for example the gui.py has now become a whole python package

will add more to it tho but i wanna finish rewriting my base of the deprecated stuff

[limber veldt]

Colorpicker in its current form if anyone's interested and there's not a lot that's depending on my project in it https://paste.pythondiscord.com/F4GQ

The images it uses:

[cerulean nimbus]

looks very nice

[limber veldt]

Since I have it on a sliding panel (it's animated), it needs the align_rects() method, but if not moving it around, no need for the method

[limber veldt]

Thanks

I worked a bit on getting the color from the bars, they have an update() method but currently just returning from it, but they can set the rgb too. The idea worked but I'm overriding it for now, it is just a chess game, not a graphics art program

[limber veldt]

The only call I'm making to the picker is to its get_rgb_hsv() method and only to save those values and from it to set_label_color(), the method in my main() class that changes the color of labels

[frank field]

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The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[limber veldt]

And don't even ask me to explain the math in both update_sv() and update_triangle_dot() I googled that part

[honest heron]

not really I KNOW multiple devs who have made millions. And I know more we do commision based things such as models, animations, ui and one of my friends brought a 100k m3 comp

off pure comissions and is 20 living in a 3k penthouse like bro if u like something stick to it.

if you think you can't make a game you can do commision based things and make lots of money. ROBLOX developers r the most paid developers and it takes a google search to prove that

[uncut dove]

yeah you trolling for sure

[honest heron]

i'm trolling?

don't discredit his dreams and its a very viable option to make real money on. it isn't easy but it defintely isnt the fucking lottery

[uncut dove]

that is if you are working at roblox dumbass

[honest heron]

I used to do u.i and ive paid 600 dollars to 1.2k

earned*

off single uis

I was 14 with 3k bro

but I was working 24/7 after school to make the money

[uncut dove]

working at roblox as being employed at the roblox fucking company

[honest heron]

believe what u wanna believe all im saying is that making money off roblox is much easier than making money off steam. you probably won't make a lot of money and will be forced to make projects but you do earn moeny and it is not a bad part time job.

it scales with exprience and connections. it can also be luck ; the owner of gpo makes millions but yet in 2016 when he made the discord nobody supported him for those same reasons

it took him years to release the game and he built a following off it . U work hard you get paid ANYWHERE in life bro

[uncut dove]

okay let me take apart your arguments one by one

[uncut dove]

first of all, steam takes less of a cut of profits than roblox, the odds are stacked against you either way as a solo dev on both platforms but atleast steam takes just a 30% cut compared to roblox with an over 50% cut

[honest heron]

not gonna sit here and debate, but u get way more traction on roblox for some of these games. More people are on roblox for free than steam. So you get more people willing to play your game for free.

there are single roblox games that clear entire steam charts

[uncut dove]

yeah that can be applied for games outside roblox, making this argument invalid

[honest heron]

💀 whats the connections on the outside? the owner of dark souls 💀 .

[uncut dove]

yeah those games are free, but then most of the people will not pay for your game

so you dont earn anything except for those few who buy cosmetics and shit

[honest heron]

you make money almost always by getting people to play for free. All you do is monetize and make cosmetics or sell cheap gamepasses and roll in money.

I know a man who is a genius at monetizing his game clears at maybe 2k players daily but he makes more money then u can imagine. Because his smart and monetizes his game excellently

You get people to join for free and make them stay that is the power of roblox games and thats why they clear steam any day.

[uncut dove]

you put your previous employment in a resume

[honest heron]

I know the person who built for this game.

at most this game cleared maybe 2.5k players in its prime. It won a couple bloxy awards; overall it was a passion project but it has made millions

one of the most recognized games in all of roblox while having little amount of players.

It makes easily almost a mill now in this state. This is MONETIZATION

[uncut dove]

you like throwing around "but i know someone" dont you

[honest heron]

I'm speaking off exprience and knowledge ur speaking off emotion

His name was Rookie_ethnic but he was outed for some stuff so he doesn't work there anymore buit he made real money when helped make that game

[uncut dove]

okay then provide some proof if you speak off knowledge

provide proof you actually know the person

[honest heron]

Not really friends with him anymore

bc you know I don't like those type of people but he made moeny and the people who owned that game made millions and still make millions

don't discredit somebody for having dreams bc of ur lack of knowledge

He wants to make roblox games you give him postives and negatives. It is much harder to make it as a steam developer than a roblox developer. It is just a simple fact. Now you could said become a game developer but their underpaid. Become a software engineer its hard but pays well.

[uncut dove]

i mean anyone can accept friend requests from anyone

[honest heron]

He deleted discord bc he wsa outed for being a pedophile so i don't talk to him

anywhere in life u can make it by working hard and being passionate

[uncut dove]

not true

what about the blue collar workers toiling their asses off for minimum wage

they aint lazy

[honest heron]

some people r content; a lot of those guys have the potential to make real money.

some people have parents who have done that work and they branch out take a loan start a company and work hard building it.

they make maybe 300k-600k doing that

but we call that a low skill job

[quasi hamlet]

no if they can't afford to try change their job

[honest heron]

exactly

they arent lazy but thats the position they put themselves in

some are truly unfortunate like immigrants and what not others just made bad choices but eitheir way. some people use that to make real money

[quasi hamlet]

no it's not the position they put themselves in, it's the position they end up in

[honest heron]

but there are ways out

such as lets say

truck drivers can easly clear 100k and you only need less than ayear of schooling

it comes to a total of 3k.

3-10k and there is monthly payments of like an extra 300

[uncut dove]

thats just because their parents are sucessful, and their grandparents and so on
so basically they are only sucessful because their dynasty was sucessful

[honest heron]

there is always a way out

[quasi hamlet]

there's not

[honest heron]

no you did not understand a single thing i've said

[uncut dove]

you are implying everyone can be a multimillionare entrepreneur

[honest heron]

I know classmates whos parents were construction workers and busted their ass in a bad

[quasi hamlet]

I think you don't understand a single thing you said

[honest heron]

work enviornment

they branched out and started their own company

@quasi hamlet THERE IS ALWAYS a way out

[quasi hamlet]

if money was really a measure of work, then Bill Gates would've manually moved every single drop of the entire pacific ocean using a glass

[honest heron]

its the mentality.

[uncut dove]

apparently if i work my ass off and start a company im guaranteed to become a millionare

[honest heron]

never did I say that I just said people who bust their ass off make money

doesnt have to be a company

it can be a 9-5

it can be a blue collar job

[quasi hamlet]

no it's not, it's the circunstances you're in, the family from which you come and the kind of things you believe off the internet

[honest heron]

a trade

u name it

yes it is man I came from nothing

my uncle cam from nothing

we were homeless and my uncle was working a bum ass job and he got a cdl now he makes a 100k

he was barely survivng but he paid an extra 300 by taking loans out

he got his cdl and made more money if u give up thats you. if you were born in a 1st world country with both parents and ur a construction worker thats on you and nobody else.

you didnt work hard to live a good life you made bad choices , prison, drugs, dropping out of school. whatever it may be thats on u

[quasi hamlet]

if there werent any low-paid people there would not be any profit either and therefore no economy, as such, low-paid are a necesity and a circunstance, a status which you either get out or fall deeper in, and it's usually not someone's fault. By taking loans you can indebt yourself even more than what you were originally.

[uncut dove]

theres an element of luck to it

[honest heron]

but you dont work hard earlier in life you work hard for somebody else or work hard for less

[quasi hamlet]

Woa, hold'up, that's crazy racist from you

[honest heron]

thats just how this country works

[honest heron]

true if its like buisness

but it isnt rlly luck for trades of cdls

but like I wanna be a software engineer and im black ik that its gonna be harder for me to get a job

but thats fine

[quasi hamlet]

true on everything, if you are born on africa you tell me what kind of "entrepeneur multibillionare business" are you making

[honest heron]

??

im east african

holy shity

[quasi hamlet]

fair enough

then you know how life on those villages are

[honest heron]

yes

[quasi hamlet]

or do you life on a comfortable city

[honest heron]

thats africa though

I came from kenya

and Im not gonna say its easy its dam near impossible there

but I MEAN america

in AMERICA

[uncut dove]

okay im asking you a question, if you put in the work and be passionate about it, will you become a multimillionare

[honest heron]

you have a choice from a early age USUALLY. some people get played bad cards. Some people get sex trafficked when their kids and wound up in a differnet state 10 years. No highschool, nO GED, no education. thats a bad card. some people had to drop out fcus their parents are dying and they have to take care of them.

[honest heron]

yes that is my mentality and hopefully I make it

but also there are sure fire ways to become a millionaire such a roth ira but thats when u about to retire

u put in 3k in a roth ira and put a 1k a year by the time ur like 50 u have millions

if u do that when ur 18 tho

but I do think its very hard and it is entirely luck to make millions when you're young

but u can build and make those millions later in life

[quasi hamlet]

how easy or hard it is depends on the circunstances, and since the circunstances change not only because of you but also because of everything that affects you, there's a clear element to it. We can agree then, that you were lucky to get out of there, because no matter how hard they try, a selled child, 10 years old, married, can't get out of her misery

[honest heron]

exactly

you have it right

[quasi hamlet]

that's if you have 3k

[honest heron]

well

you dont have to put 3k

its easy to open one up

you can do a 1k a year when u get tax returns and it will make a similiar amount in the end

but by the 50 u have 1-3 million EASILY

but I also accept and know that its hard to live and thrive in america without support. For some people they will start later but when you have parents , AND BOTH parents. A support system and other things a child needs. Then you end up flipping burgers it is entirely you.

[quasi hamlet]

how can you say "exactly" so proudly? Do you not understand not everyone can get money easily? or at all?

[honest heron]

yes

I come from nothing

I relate to all that and above

[uncut dove]

ending up flipping burgers is a matter of circumstance and not being a hard working honest person

[honest heron]

no it is you

you come from a good family, that can pay for ur education , can pay for your trade. And you fuck around thats just you

a lot of people come from less and make more

[uncut dove]

rich people are often rich just because they are born with a silver spoon up their ass

[honest heron]

dude their are kids in south africa that have less then you

and they wake up everyday

go to school

bedcome a doctor

make monmey

and immigrate ive seen it and thats work ethic

[quasi hamlet]

Oh, so you argument is because comparing how hard life is on america and on africa, all problems are your own fault. What is missing there is the fact that people don't understand the situation they're in, if someone doesnt understand, and doesnt fathom how hard it is to actually get a job and work, let alone create a company, they'll think it's easy, even more if they are born around people that think it's easy, it's not entirely someones fault but the people's ignorance of their circunstance's fault to not understand how doomed they are, even when they are born in such favorable circunstances

which, looking at it again, has nothing to do with being hard-working

what you can't be is something that doesnt attend his responsabilities, but from there to a hard-working person there's a far shot

[honest heron]

I guess . I'm jsut saying that if you got dealt good cards and you fumble thats just you. Other people get dealth much worse cards and make it into an empire.

[honest heron]

yes u are right but their are lots of self made millionaires

[quasi hamlet]

not really, comparing how many people are born middle-class and how many of them become successful, there's a far greater number than how many people are born poor and become successful, the diference is the fact that for the second group, it always makes a lot of noise

[honest heron]

and then they're 9-5 millionaires. Like if you run a department in a place like nvidia u make millions

if you are the head of innovation of their graphic cards u make like 1-2 m

[quasi hamlet]

so because you know more poor people that became rich doesnt mean there's more poor people that become rich than middle-class people that become rich

let alone rich people that become even richer

[honest heron]

yes

I'm just saying its possible and in america its entirely possible.

[quasi hamlet]

compared to what

[quasi hamlet]

so it is a meteor falls into the earth tomorrow

[honest heron]

his saying that their are lots of millionaires that come from millionaires. but their are also self made millionaires from middle class or lower class . Or even below the poverty line.

[quasi hamlet]

this is a fire conversation to have on the game-dev channel lol

[honest heron]

yea

[quasi hamlet]

(srry people reading this, got carried out)

[honest heron]

my brother in law is the exact definiton of work hard and hustle he was making 30k a year and immigrated as a child came from nothing and now he runs his own buisness and his first year he cleared 100k+ and he clears more and more every year.

[quasi hamlet]

There are, as well as there are lots of millionaires that ended up being poor, and it isnt necesarily their fault

[honest heron]

he woke up and said fkc this bro I got kids and a wife to take care of and that's the real definition of a man yk.

@quasi hamlet true

thats just life

[quasi hamlet]

then how are you arguing that if someone is not a millionaire it's their fault?

[honest heron]

nbooo

noooo

you mis understood me

[quasi hamlet]

fine, then how are you arguing that if someone ends up flipping burgers it's their fault?

[honest heron]

I'm arguing that in america you can do better for yourself. Being a millionaire can be luck.

bc thats just lazy and no planning man

at least if u come from a good background

your father is a doctor and mother does whatever and also makes money but u end up flipping vurgers and live with ur parents at 27

you grew complacent in life

and unfortunately that's a sad fact. You can look at history books and see billionaire families lose everything because the generations became lazier and lazier. They grew complacent and instead of increasing the family fortune they blew it and spent it. Until they ran out.

[quasi hamlet]

fair, but there arent that many people like that

[uncut dove]

while i agree that this is a possibility, you need to have luck, as in you have to be intelligent enough to become a doctor, you need to have the money to attend a good school
while i was working a summer job ordering computer equipment, i had a coworker that immigrated from north macedonia he was paid the least in my department, but worked the most, compared to someone higher up who slacked the first hour at work, went to a smoke break, and paid more than a true hard working person

[honest heron]

intelligence usually isn't a problem especially in the medical field 💀 you do need money to attent a good school but you can just take loans.

Also ur comparing ur friend to soembody else compare him to who he was before.

Compare him to who he was when he immigraterd from macedonia

then compare him to the current him in 20 years and see where he is at

[quasi hamlet]

you have to be intelligent enough to become a doctor
well, in that I disagree, the fact of wether you're able or not to learn something depends on your perspective of the world and in the way you understand things, I know crazy inteligent people that can't understand simple stuff just because it's not their field of specialization or because they simply don't understand, I don't know how to put it the other way

[honest heron]

yea

you just need to be average in intelligence or not have a mental disability that affects your iq

[quasi hamlet]

now, granted that the other way also checks, you have to have the mind structured in a specific way to become a doctor

[uncut dove]

he did improve his living conditions, but theres no way for him to become a millionare

[honest heron]

you can do amazing things with average intelligence you can work quantum physics.

@uncut dove how old is he?

[uncut dove]

43

[honest heron]

he probabl won't be a millionaire but you don't know where he will go

but he can easily clear 100k+

in 10 years from now

comparsion is the thief of joy. just improve who you are now

[quasi hamlet]

intelligence usually isn't a problem (granted), especially in the medical field
what? Do you not notice the fact that you're playing with human lifes here? like, at all?
granted for biology, but, for medicine? you can't mess up a diagnosis because the patient may die

[honest heron]

Dude messing up a diagnosis is just like plain stupidity and not in the iq way

yk

and it happens all the time

and smart people do it more often

[quasi hamlet]

you just proved you know nothing of medicine

did you know that cancer of anything can have virtually any simptom on any other part of the body?

diagnose that

[honest heron]

im saying that you can go through medical school while being below average in iq terms and be an amazing doctor. MEd school doesn't have extremely hard courses. It just has LOTS of information you need to learn and use

yes

but there are tests that can prove its cancer

a cautious doctor goes a long way man

[uncut dove]

i dont see an average person becoming a surgeon because it does require traits that not everyone has

[quasi hamlet]

and thank god there are, now, diagnose a self-inmune disease

[quasi hamlet]

[honest heron]

idk u defintely can be a neuro surgeon

idk if you know just how smart a "average" person is

humans are incredibly smart and being just average means you can do about anything anybody else does granted with a harder time.

Now you can make a arguement that soembody below the average iq can't become a surgeon and I would agree but they can defintely be a medicine doctor aka MD

[quasi hamlet]

right now, the situation on quantum physics is "shut up and calculate"

[honest heron]

most surgeons are probably around 110-130

in the iq range

and 110 is below average

or is average

[uncut dove]

okay but you need specific cognitive skills, there is no general metric of intelligence

[honest heron]

but ofc im probably wrong

@uncut dove entirely TRUE btw

I compeltely agree and I think the IQ tests are a bs method to measure intelligence but oh well

btw iq tests are so stupid

[quasi hamlet]

that's because it's not wether if it's smart of not what you're talking about, it's if the people have the perspective, some crazy smart people, are simply dumb, they're idiots that think lots of themselves and won't learn nothing of nothing,
it's not wether if someone is smart or not, it's about how they think

[honest heron]

^

agree

anyways you can walk in and study for a iq test

[quasi hamlet]

and iq is not a measurement of inteligence, only thing proved by IQ is that it's inherited

[honest heron]

did you know that?

you can STUDY

to get a higher iq

ofc a surgeon will have a higher iq

[uncut dove]

to become a neurosurgeon you need to be very precise, have good problem solving skills, skilled in analyzing patterns and so on

[honest heron]

plus the human brain like grows yk

the more problems you do and the harder it is

the smarter you become

personally I think im smart but I will never take a iq test bro

I suck at riddles and all of that weird stuff

plus im very intrapersonal

[uncut dove]

and these traits you are given basically at random, sure you can improve at some areas but you can never really achieve performance of someone who was born with these skills

[quasi hamlet]

man, iq is not a measurement of inteligence, first of all, inteligence is something cualitative, it can't be expressed with a number, for example, I'm crazy good with maths and computers, but, I can't draw shit, I have hard times memorizing simple stuff and yet, I can learn a lot of something really quickly
all those points are examples of "skills" (I wouldnt use that word for that, but wathever, keep it simple) that are mostly unrelated between themselves and therefore if they could be measured, they would have to do so separatedly, and again, since how good or bad are you on something is something subjetive, you can't even measure a single "skill", to give an example, if someone can paint something really beatiful depends on the one that's looking at the painting

[honest heron]

no those traits HELP with becoming one. Anybody that can work hard and isn't mentally incapacitated can become a neuro surgeon. It's incredibly hard and i assume impossible if you are not passionate.

[quasi hamlet]

no it doesnt

[honest heron]

it doesnt physically grow 💀

[quasi hamlet]

no you don't

[honest heron]

the connections become stronger

and you become better at solving

and finding patterns and what not

[uncut dove]

lets look at chess, or more specifically bobby fisher who was one of the greatest chess players, he was born with the supernatural chess ability

[honest heron]

yea but that is like michael phelps

[quasi hamlet]

no it's not

[honest heron]

some people r born to do certain things but it doesn't exclude others from it

yk

[uncut dove]

most professional chess players were above average in chess in their childhood

[honest heron]

like usain bolt was just made to run but it doesn't exclude others from becoming professionals.

[uncut dove]

yes you can try and learn chess in depth, but you will hit a wall where you reach your cognitive limit

[honest heron]

ok but whats the cognitive limit?

[uncut dove]

it cant be measured what it is, but its the point where you plateau in your performance

[quasi hamlet]

to put it simply, your brain generalizes the "latent space" of ideas, and then holds the current "position" in that latent space and moves around, that adding the actual data becomes our comprehension of something, now, if Boby Fisher was crazy good at chess is because he happened to be born with a hippocampus specialized in whatever mess is the latent space of how pieces interact in the board across time and space, and if michael phelps if superhumanly good at sports is because he was simply born with a diferent proportion of muscular fibres

[honest heron]

ok but tbh

[quasi hamlet]

you can't compare your brain structure with muscular fibres

[honest heron]

iq is false

and is incredibly false

[uncut dove]

i was not talking about iq

the cognitive limit is not a measure and cant be cleanly defined

[quasi hamlet]

I don't think there is, but the problem is that it's something somewhat logarithmic, so there is a point in which the growth is negligeble

[honest heron]

Yes what I was saying is some people are born to do certain things

[uncut dove]

i cant say what my cognitive limit is

[honest heron]

but it doesn't exlcude others

yk

[quasi hamlet]

problem with chess is the fact that, if you're too good at chess there's a point in which becoming better is memorizing hundreds of thousands of games

[honest heron]

Like when I was young when I was going through the immigration process

a part of the concrete roof fell off and hit my head

I had to go through all sorts of surgeries and what not. My mom put me through an iq test when I was a bit older like 9 or 10 and I scored 130

now i would 100% score lower

[quasi hamlet]

but you can't compare those two people, it's like comparing Euler which had a brain perfect for math and your niece that happens to get drunk after the fifth bottle of vodka
yes, your niece is born to drink but that's not the matter here

point granted is that some people are better than other on performing tasks, and some people exploit that and some people doesnt

[honest heron]

@quasi hamlet but the arguement cracky was making is that some people are born to do certain things and I agree but those peopl are special cases. like nuero divergent people dominate stem and have a higher iq. But an average human can also succeed in stem. Comparing them in a way that is trying to discredit them is just incorrect

yk

thats the point I am making and its why I made that comparison some people are built for these things.

like I suck at math, and unfortunately, my major is math dominated. I don't know how I will pass that roadblock but I will. While I am not gifted at that, I know I am not a dumb person and it's within my reach. TO step away from it because I am "not talented" or "not smart enough" is just false.

[quasi hamlet]

true is the fact that you can't discredit people because they're worse at doing something, it's completely true.
Yet, since this cruel world doesnt care about credit, the surgeons with most success rate will be the more neurodivergent, and ordinary hard-working people will lack behind, because surgery is something extremely hard to do, so it's a bad example
same applies to medicine, but in a lesser scale, and same applies to everything in a diferent scale, that's our point
you can't say "I'm not a doctor because I'm not a genious", agreed, but you can, finish med school, going to your first hospital, and just being so bad on medicine that you're fired, it's the same neurodivergency that if you're a genious, just, the other way around, and the higher the standar is for a job, the more people it's filtered out by this
it doesnt mean you can't be a surgeon, or a doctor, it just means is hard, and if you happen to be lucky enough to be a genious but unlucky enough to be it on the opposite direction, then you sure are going to have trouble

Matter of fact, because of that, normal people that reach the pinnacle of science have so much more credit than literally anyone else

thik of Feyman

[honest heron]

And you hit the target

nice

The exact point I was trying to make I'm just so lazy. I didn't wanna type it all out

@quasi hamlet Do you know the rapper Gunna?

[quasi hamlet]

yeah well but you still don't have into account the fact that so many people are simply unable to keep up with "smart people" on the subject, or it's too hard for them, or they think it's too hard for them and etc, etc, etc.....
the fact that you're second, third, fourth if you're lucky, 10th-40th for normal people it's just not encouraging enough to keep up the effort

but yeah, I think we more or less agree on that

[quasi hamlet]

no idea, but I really have to get some sleep, it's nearly 4 AM here

[honest heron]

Oh I was gonna make the point that while I think he may not be talented at other things such as math etc. He is extremely lyrical and by no means is stupid or below average.

[quasi hamlet]

it's an example

we gonna get a strike or something because of what we've just discussed on game-dev or smth

my fault still tbh

[honest heron]

🤝 prob

[finite crow]

whats up guys. what do ya'll use for develop games? any unreal users?

Could you guys imagine a game like runescape or ultima online where the creatures and npc's we're controlled by a GM that's AI. For an dynamic and evolving world? Sounds fun. I dont know if any of guys were around, but when the internent was still brandnew and when BBS's were a thing, we played these guys called MUD's. But they were bascailly the first mmorpg games but mainly text with ANSI . The concept would be a already pre created world but figure how how to let the AI control and manipulate the world

I remember playing Neverwinter Nights on AOL as a kid and it changed my life, lol

[warm oracle]

can anyone explain why is it so small even whe n i transflrm it's scale into the size of the screen

[lucid gyro]

can anyone help me with a pgzero code

[quasi hamlet]

if you pc can hold such a transformer without exploding then

[limber veldt]

By subclassing sprites

lol

Good morning all o/

More refactoring this morning, getting closer to publishing

[astral dust]

Hello, I am making WarThunder like game in python. I want to implement multiple vehicle classes of vehicles: ships, planes, tanks, airships, all of them have an unique properties and behavior, for example some planes are able to carry bombs, have gunner turret, other only can carry rockets. Aircarriers are able to carry aircraft. Above all different vehicles have different controlling.

So, the question is:
How I should organize the architecture ?

[limber veldt]

I still have to make like three of four different sprites before recognizing their similarities and going, 'Hey, I can abstract that to a more generalized sprite and subclass to make specific sprites'

Like this, I first had both those last two objects as their own sprites with the only difference being the images and positions ```py

class SelectAPlayerButton(pygame.sprite.Sprite):
def init(self, pos, image, panel_image, action, group):
super().init(group)
self.image = image
self.rect = self.image.get_rect(center = pos)

    self.panel_group = pygame.sprite.GroupSingle()
    self.panel = PlayerPanel((WIDTH, pos[1]-16), panel_image, action)
    self.panel_group.add(self.panel)

def get_clicked(self):
    pos = pygame.mouse.get_pos()
    if self.rect.collidepoint(pos):
        self.panel.set_state('opening')
    # if self.panel.state == 'opened':
    self.panel.get_clicked()

def draw_panel(self, screen):
    self.panel_group.draw(screen)

def update(self, dt):
    self.panel_group.update(dt)

class SelectPlayerButton(SelectAPlayerButton):
def init(self, pos, action, group):
image = ui_images['select_player_button']
panel_image = ui_images['select_player_panel']
super().init(pos, image, panel_image, action, group)

class SelectOpponentButton(SelectAPlayerButton):
def init(self, pos, action, group):
image = ui_images['select_opponent_button']
panel_image = ui_images['select_opponent_panel']
super().init(pos, image, panel_image, action, group)```

Both the same object, might as well subclass and send the params to the parent

So my best advice for organizing both file and code structure, think really really hard about the relationship between objects and how to categorize them

[astral dust]

I just don't want to repeat code

[limber veldt]

Totally get it

I subclass everything as much as I can, still and forever practicing though

I actually had the images being sent to the main button but changed my image handling to just import a dict of images into the file instead. I kinda like that idea more than loading all the images into main and sending them from there to all the instances

My main() no longer handles many of the images I'm using, just importing a dict of them where necessary

I have all these images in one folder atm

And they all get loaded into a dict at startup

In fact, main doesn't even have a reference to any of those images anymore

It could get them from the objects though, but no need

I like my stuff somewhat organized and having them all in one gimp project makes it pretty easy

[wanton thistle]

I have made up a guessing game

import random

def hadanie_cisla():
print("Vitaj v hre 'Hádanie čísla'!")
print("Myslím si číslo medzi 1 a 100. Skús ho uhádnuť.")

cislo = random.randint(1, 100)
pokusy = 0

while True:
    tip = input("Zadaj svoje číslo: ")
    
    # Kontrola, či je vstup číselný
    if not tip.isdigit():
        print("Zadaj prosím platné číslo.")
        continue

    tip = int(tip)
    pokusy += 1

    if tip < cislo:
        print("Moje číslo je väčšie.")
    elif tip > cislo:
        print("Moje číslo je menšie.")
    else:
        print(f"Gratulujem! Uhádol si číslo {cislo} za {pokusy} pokusov.")
        break

hadanie_cisla()

[cerulean nimbus]

could just be that your image is not cropped well

one way to test this is to fill your image with a color

image = pygame.image.load(image_path)
image.fill("red")

[warm oracle]

well yes indeed it was

i checked it

thanks

[limber veldt]

Oh I got a much better blend on those file/rank labels, now those are as intended

Currently doing this way but I suspect there's an even better ```py

def custom_draw(self, screen):
    mask = self.mask.copy()
    mask.fill(self.color, special_flags=pygame.BLEND_RGBA_MIN)
    screen.blit(mask, self.rect)
    self.image.fill(self.color, special_flags=pygame.BLEND_RGB_MULT)
    screen.blit(self.image, self.rect)```

[covert rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kv2kuooxaw&t=357s

[limber veldt]

This way, it only gets redrawn when it either changes color or gets flipped, keeping the logic out of the constantly-running draw() method https://paste.pythondiscord.com/L7JA

Via a callback from the settings panel to main ```py

def set_label_color(self, color):
    self.board.file_label_group.sprite.color = color
    self.board.file_label_group.sprite.init_state = True
    self.board.rank_label_group.sprite.color = color
    self.board.rank_label_group.sprite.init_state = True``` any time it changes color

And then out to the board and to the sprites

And the other methods only do logic on a trigger, since their init_state flag immediately get set to False

[random geyser]

good day

could someone help me with some homework

i have to understand the basics of coding like variables and tuples etc but i genuinely dont understand anything

when i look guides online i also get more confused

[uncut dove]

well now i regret arguing on the internet until 2am 😭

[random geyser]

wait why ahha

[uncut dove]

just scroll up in the chat xD

[random geyser]

oh ahahah

can you prehaps help me?

[uncut dove]

yeah

so a variable is a container for some sort of data, be it an integer, string, list, and so on

[random geyser]

that i understand but i dont get how to make one

[uncut dove]

you define it, as in

x = 1

x is now a variable

[random geyser]

so would that be an int since its a single number?

[uncut dove]

an int is a whole number

like -1, 4, 7, 42

[random geyser]

okay thats good to know

[uncut dove]

a float is a decimal number, or an approximation thereof

now i saw you talking about tuples so imma explain those

and how they differ from lists

[random geyser]

so
cake = eggs, flour, milk
would be an str

yeah sure

[uncut dove]

no, that would try to fit the variables eggs, flour and milk into the variable cake

the correct way is
cake = "eggs, flour, milk"

[uncut dove]

so tuples and lists are objects that can hold multiple other objects

well it doesnt have to be multiple, you can have an empty list

now the difference is that tuples are immutable, meaning you cant modify them after you create them

so if you do x = (1, 2, 3) you cant modify whats contained within x

[random geyser]

like a grocery list?

[uncut dove]

i guess

now each object within the list has a number associated with it

an index

[random geyser]

could you prehaps show it to me in an image

like my school made an powerpoint

but i think i understand it wrong

[random geyser]

and can all of this also be applied to pycharm or is that diffirent from python

[uncut dove]

pycharm is an ide

[random geyser]

sorry im so confused what does that mean

[uncut dove]

text editor basically

with some features to make coding in python easier

[random geyser]

i see

i think i undestand it a but better now

[random geyser]

thanks

[limber veldt]

Doesn't matter which ide or editor you use, python is python, just some make it easier or do it slightly different than others. Most ides have basic features to make working with code easier

[cerulean nimbus]

ok so im making kinda a pygame-multi emulator (kinda like pygame but with some QoL features like buttons etc and a way to run like multiple games at once)

and im working on the "window" feature rn should i add the ability to add a title bar rn

the green and black are representing a "window" rn

i just temporarily filled the surface

[limber veldt]

Hmm, maybe even a small icon or something representing what it's supposed to be showing

[carmine brook]

yo I wanna make a game but I don’t got much knowledge about what I need I know some js and python

[vagrant saddle]

fyi pygame_gui module provides windowing and subsurfaces to exactly help you do what you want to achieve

[limber veldt]

Morning all o/

This sure is a handy little group ```py

class TooltipGroup(pygame.sprite.Group):
def init(self, *sprites):
super().init(*sprites)

    self.tooltips = {
        'dark': [],
        'light': []
        }
    self.enabled = True

def add_dark_tooltip(self, sprite):
    self.tooltips['dark'].append(sprite)
    super().add(sprite)

def add_light_tooltip(self, sprite):
    self.tooltips['light'].append(sprite)
    super().add(sprite)

def set_tooltip_color(self, color):
    super().empty()
    self.add(self.tooltips[color])
    for spr in super().sprites():
        spr.alpha = 0
        spr.image.set_alpha(0)

def custom_draw(self, screen):
    '''
    draws:
    member sprites if self.enabled == True'''
    if self.enabled:
        super().draw(screen)```

So far it's just on a keypress but functionality is there

Now I can add a 'tooltip_color' key to my theme dict and when changing theme, change the tooltips accordingly

I have a lot of drawing in a few places/objects, so went through and gave all the draw methods docstrings

Easier to make sense out of the main draw method this way

[limber veldt]

More woods

Does anyone know how to or a good tutorial for tinting/shading through opengl?

I'd like to write a shader that tints/shades the entire screen. I can do that how I'm doing the board, but I'm experimenting

[teal cargo]

no... but I will say your chess is starting to look a lot more polished now

[limber veldt]

Oh thanks

The last month or so has been mostly polishing and refactoring

I still have an issue with my clicks on moves in the list to mass-redo moves, some of my squares/pieces are not assigning correctly in the process but redo or undo one at a time is working fine

I may just very reluctantly disable that feature

[opaque swallow]

Hey, don’t know if this counts as game dev but I made a minimax chess engine and after a while I couldn’t find another way to improve speed or accuracy. Feedback would be appreciated! https://github.com/42-AH/mockfish

[limber veldt]

Interesting, just glancing through the code

[opaque swallow]

By the way don’t look at the crusty old UI, that really isn’t my thing…

[limber veldt]

I see, tk isn't really my thing so didn't pay any attention to the ui

[icy venture]

hi everyone

im using pygame

but in my program, i need to open the file dialogue

i did a lot of research, and tkinter is apparently the simplest way to move my jpg file in pygame to whereever the user wants the jpg file to be saved in

how can i implement tkinter file dialogue to pygame?

[opaque swallow]

Well

Tkinter is definitely the way to go

[icy venture]

may i dm you with further details or should i send all info here

[covert rose]

do you want the pygame script instead bro?

[opaque swallow]

Just do it here

[icy venture]

is there a way to open file dialogue to save a file whereever the user wants in pygame?

[covert rose]

yeah

[icy venture]

how?

[covert rose]

wanna see the script?

[icy venture]

should info include my current code?

[icy venture]

yes please

[opaque swallow]

Yes please

[icy venture]

to me or to superdk

?

[opaque swallow]

Here’s what I think would work:

import pygame
import tkinter as tk
from tkinter import filedialog

Initialize pygame

pygame.init()

Function to use Tkinter's file dialog to save an image

def save_file():
root = tk.Tk()
root.withdraw() # Hide the Tkinter root window
file_path = filedialog.asksaveasfilename(defaultextension=".jpg",
filetypes=[("JPG files", ".jpg"),
("All files", ".*")])
if file_path:
# For demonstration purposes, let's create a blank surface
surface = pygame.Surface((100, 100))
surface.fill((255, 0, 0)) # Fill it with red color
pygame.image.save(surface, file_path)
print(f"File saved at: {file_path}")

Your pygame loop or event handling would go here

save_file()

pygame.quit()

[icy venture]

theres no way you wrote that in like 20 secs

[opaque swallow]

I have a project similar I’m working on

[icy venture]

wow cool

[opaque swallow]

Just copied and pasted module pretty much

[icy venture]

shall i paste my current code?

[opaque swallow]

Sure

[icy venture]

ok!

[opaque swallow]

Is this code distorted in your screen too

[icy venture]

i didnt put into vs code yet

it keeps deleting my code message

when sending here

[limber veldt]

More than enough boards and frames, some of the colors are bad, that's easy to change, but I have a good variety and with the color picker, everyone should be able to find something that works for them

[opaque swallow]

Dang bro nice gui

Anyway I gotta go bye everyone

[limber veldt]

Thanks, tried keeping it pretty clean

[icy venture]

oh bye :(

hi @covert rose could you please send the pygame script you mentioned sir?

[covert rose]

yeah wait

[icy venture]

thank you 🙏🏻

[limber veldt]

This is how I did them for one of my games ```py

    ''' import these '''
    # from tkinter import Tk
    # from tkinter.filedialog import asksaveasfilename, askopenfilename
    
    root = Tk()
    root.withdraw()
    files = [('lvl files', '*.lvl')]
    if is_loading:
        filename = askopenfilename(filetypes = files, defaultextension = files)
    else:
        filename = asksaveasfilename(filetypes = files, defaultextension = files)
    root.destroy()
    return filename```

[icy venture]

interesting...

see the tricky thing with my code is that it outputs two jpg files, asks user if they want to save these files or not, and if they do then it opens file dialogue and saves the jpg file in the user's chosen directory

which i am struggling to implement in my code

[limber veldt]

The entire method, just to be more clear, maybe ```py

def get_path(self, is_loading):
    root = Tk()
    root.withdraw()
    files = [('lvl files', '*.lvl')]
    if is_loading:
        filename = askopenfilename(filetypes = files, defaultextension = files)
    else:
        filename = asksaveasfilename(filetypes = files, defaultextension = files)
    root.destroy()
    return filename```

[icy venture]

just letting you know, idk anything about tkinter haha

[limber veldt]

pygame has methods for saving png from surfaces, if that interests you

[icy venture]

can i send my code, maybe that clears thing better

[limber veldt]

The method I posted above should work for that

[icy venture]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/M5NA

[covert rose]

i cant post whole code for unknown reason , discord crashed.

[icy venture]

for context, the save_maze() function is the one where i want this new code implemented on line 45

[icy venture]

can you use pastebin or python discord server paste

[covert rose]

whats that?

oh ok

give me a link

[icy venture]

ok

@covert rose https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

this is official from python discord server

just paste the script and it should generate a temp link for 30 days storing the script :D

[limber veldt]

In your line 55, where it says filename = base_filename + extension copy/paste the method I posted into your code (removing the self, arg from the definition) and instead of filename = base_filename + extension say filename = get_path(False) or even in addition to using your code, trying the method with a different variable name (maybe test_filename = get_path(False) and see what happens

You'll need to change the extensions defined in the function too, to match .jpg or whatever filetype you need

[icy venture]

Sorry I am confused by your message @limber veldt

If it isn’t much trouble for you, could you send an updated code with your suggestion/improvement?

My English isn’t great so I struggle to understand some of message

If no I see if chatgpt can understand you for me 😂

[limber veldt]

Just pasted he method into my current project and called it with a keypress

Here it is in your code https://paste.pythondiscord.com/E4NA

With the other changes I mentioned, I can't test it, only you can

I tested the method in my code and as we can see, it works

[covert rose]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/EMVQ

[limber veldt]

The implementation might not be what you need but opening a save as... dialog with tkinter can be done like that

[limber veldt]

Some shading on the edges of squares, I dunno

[manic cave]

I tried making a game earlier this year but somehow got things messed up when introducing the ability to open menus and pause/re-start the game, does anyone have any frameworks or suggestions for how to implement a game that needs live-action (WASD movement top-down) and then the ability to pause and re-start based on game actions? I know this sounds kind of vague but I'm not sure the best way to ask this question. I guess I am interested in things like what to use as a class and where the event loop should exist and how to implement pauses

[pine smelt]

sounds like a job for a finite state machine

im sure theres a couple examples on google or youtube but thats prolly the easiest way to go from what i think u want to achieve

[opaque swallow]

Guys, I need feedback on how to make this more accurate and quick, thanks. https://github.com/42-AH/mockfish

[limber veldt]

Implement a neural network like NNUA or whatever the acronym stockfish calls it /j

[bold hill]

May I ask a question here?

[mellow flint]

nnue

[limber veldt]

Oh...yeah

[mellow flint]

are you asking about the engine or the gui

you can take inspiration for the engine here

https://github.com/thomasahle/sunfish

it has nnue

[limber veldt]

Gave the four main buttons shortcut keys and tooltips that show them

I looked at various tooltip implementations in the apps I'm running, vscode has a delay of about a third of a second before they fade in, so I gave mine the same, it works

And they don't fade out, just disappear

[manic totem]

how do i stop a number from updating after it reach spesific point

so i have this a variable that contain a number that i keep subtract it but i want it to stop after it reach 0

[limber veldt]

value = min(upper_limit, value) will keep value at or below upper_limit

At or above I meant

[manic totem]

i'll try that

[limber veldt]

There's also max() that does the opposite

Combining them can keep a number between two values val= min(10, max(0, val)) will keep val between 10 and 0

[manic totem]

ok it work

thanks

[limber veldt]

Sometimes it's appropriate to just use a condition, like if val > 0: val -= something

[manic totem]

oh

i have try that before

[limber veldt]

The min and max functions are fine most of the time

[manic totem]

but its doesnt look good on display

its look like it glitching out

[limber veldt]

Depends on the implementation

[manic totem]

im using the variable as score

sorry for make it not so clear

[limber veldt]

I use the min/max way most of the time, it's one line compared to 5 or 6 lines to get the same result from conditionals

I still have to thought process them though, they're kind of counter intuitive since min() is used for setting a maximum limit and max for setting a minimum limit

[manic totem]

yeah, but it also more faster. everything have their own pros and cons they say

[limber veldt]

True

[manic totem]

btw since you here

how do i use pygame.time.set_timer()

[dusky grove]

In Pygame, pygame.time.set_timer() is a function that creates a recurring event at a specified time interval. It triggers an event at regular intervals, which you can handle in your game loop

pygame.time.set_timer(event_id, milliseconds)

[limber veldt]

in your game setup, something like so py my_event = pygame.event.custom_type() pygame.time.set_timer(my_event, 32)
Then in your event loop, something like this py if event.type == my_event: do_something()

It's a pretty limited timer, it works, but lacks functionality I need in timers

I have used it a couple of times, it is handy

My Defender is using it to cycle colors on a timer

[pine smelt]

is it really worth using tho

surely a normal timer is more useful and adaptable

[bold hill]

May I ask a question?

[limber veldt]

Not really, a simple Timer() class can do way more

[pine smelt]

ye feel free

[pine smelt]

ye alright

[limber veldt]

Just feed it dt on an update() method and it can time things

[bold hill]

How can I make a player cell?

[pine smelt]

uh what context

like a cell in a grid? a prison jail cell?

[limber veldt]

Can you possibly be more vague

[vestal juniper]

Hemlo guys

[pine smelt]

uh not entirely sure what that drawing shows

[bold hill]

It's for a sci fy horror player area a ship of sorts

[vestal juniper]

Tf u cooking broo

[limber veldt]

There is no such thing as a 'player cell' unless you make it

[vestal juniper]

Y y'all ignoring me

[bold hill]

When it's supposed to be in a design for a ship in my game which is supposed to take place under water and using the concept of four-dimensional rift to move anywhere in time so I'm trying to make an area which is generated to be where the player will be for the entire game similar to iron lung if that makes it any easier to explain

[limber veldt]

Not ignoring and hi o/

[vestal juniper]

Yoooooo

Idk why I'm watching someone repair his cycle wheel on discord

[limber veldt]

Just writing some codes

[vestal juniper]

What codes tho ?

[pine smelt]

is this a 2d game

[bold hill]

Yes

[bold hill]

Yes

[limber veldt]

Animated buttons, buttons that change color when clicked then about a tenth of a second later, change back, so you can see them clicking

More of them actually, I have animated button abstracted

Here's the latest one py class RightArrow(AnimatedButton): def __init__(self, pos, action, group): images = [ ui_images['right_arrow_enabled'], ui_images['right_arrow_disabled']] super().__init__(pos, images, action, group)

That's all of it

[vestal juniper]

Woahhh cool tho

[vestal juniper]

How old are u bro

[limber veldt]

Old as dirt /j

The AnimatedButton() class is nothing too fancy https://paste.pythondiscord.com/JALQ

Simple state machine

Instance the button, send it a function or method as the action it should perform when clicked, send a group to it, draw and update the group

And get images to it anyway you want, either by grabbig them from an imported dict like I did for the RightArrow or send the images to the RightArrow

Some of my buttons have tooltips, some don't

In which case, I just send it to the subclasses https://paste.pythondiscord.com/GIXA

Well, the group they go into to them

By making it a state machine, I can call the buttons from anywhere to change their state, like when I press a shortcut key to activate a button, even if not clicked, I can animated it by setting its state to 'clicked'

[vestal juniper]

Woahh

This is more cool

[vestal juniper]

How many million years ?

[limber veldt]

4.5

lol

No man, I'm in my 50s, lots of practice

[cerulean nimbus]

tbh didnt even guess you ||that|| old

not meant rude

T^T

[sinful field]

Someone got a 3d projection script that uses numpy? I would greatly apreciate it !

[cerulean nimbus]

i might lemme check

nvm apperantly i deleted my numpy folder

[sinful field]

Oooon, snif

Well thx anyways 😉

[pine smelt]

i got a REALLY basic one from a while back? it doesnt have face culling or even in order-face drawing / painter's alg tho

so u get funky stuff like that which is obv wrong

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/A7DQ

the code's there if u wanna try fix it or use the logic from it

the matrices and the camera handling itself should be fine altho idk if the camera rotation methods rotate based on its location

[sinful field]

Yoo thx, dont worry abt face culling tho its the ez part !!

https://tenor.com/view/blower-monkey-cute-wind-happy-gif-16476853

[limber veldt]

Rude? Nah man, it's all good

[twin fog]

nice

[limber veldt]

Playing around with tryna make a better woodgrain, getting closer

[blissful grail]

!pygame

haa

hmm

[finite crow]

brah...!

[vestal juniper]

Looks like made in Minecraft lol

[limber veldt]

Not bad

[limber veldt]

Never saw a bumpy chess board but I applied a bump map to this to see how it would look, one side bumpy, the other not

[halcyon bay]

people who have experience with render engines/blender dm me

[spice tartan]

make a border fr

[limber veldt]

What do you mean?

It has a border, they're called left, right, top and bottom margins

[mellow flint]

ur older than my parents :O

[limber veldt]

You're younger than mine 😮

lol

[mellow flint]

Obviously

[limber veldt]

Just wondering if you have a point

Obviously not

[vestal juniper]

Ur older than sand

[limber veldt]

How would anyone here implement point/triangle collisions?

My naive approach would be getting the scalar projection of the point from each face and checking if they're all the same sign

[limber veldt]

Oh nvm, I came up with this way ```py

    inside = True
    if (self.top.x - self.right.x) * (pos.y - self.right.y) - (self.right.y - self.right.y) * (pos.x - self.right.x) < 0:
        inside = False
    if (self.top.x - self.left.x) * (pos.y - self.left.y) - (self.top.y - self.left.y) * (pos.x - self.left.x) < 0:
        inside = False
    if (self.right.x - self.top.x) * (pos.y - self.top.y) - (self.right.y - self.top.y) * (pos.x - self.top.x) < 0:
        inside = False
    return inside

I was just checking if the clicked position was less than the inner radius of my color wheel, which works ok but unintentionally grabs the triangle if just inside the circle but not colliding with the triangle, this fixes it

import pygame, sys
from pygame import Vector2

screen  = pygame.display.set_mode((400, 400))

center = Vector2(100, 200)

top = Vector2(39, 2) + center
left = Vector2(6, 57) + center
right = Vector2(72, 57) + center

def is_inside(pos):
    if (top.x - right.x) * (pos.y - right.y) - (right.y - right.y) * (pos.x - right.x) < 0:
        return False
    if (top.x - left.x) * (pos.y - left.y) - (top.y - left.y) * (pos.x - left.x) < 0:
        return False
    if (right.x - top.x) * (pos.y - top.y) - (right.y - top.y) * (pos.x - top.x) < 0:
        return False
    return True

while True:
    for event in pygame.event.get():
        if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
            pygame.quit()
            sys.exit()

    screen.fill('black')
    buttons = pygame.mouse.get_pressed()
    if buttons[0]:
        pos = Vector2(pygame.mouse.get_pos())
        if is_inside(pos):
            pygame.draw.polygon(screen, 'red', (top, left, right))
    pygame.draw.line(screen, 'red', (top), (left), 1)
    pygame.draw.line(screen, 'red', (left), (right), 1)
    pygame.draw.line(screen, 'red', (right), (top), 1)

    pygame.display.update()``` quick example...edit: better example

[spice tartan]

to split the background and the chess itself

the border around

[limber veldt]

No other chess game I've looked at has a border

So I ask again, what do you mean by border, I know what a border is but not what you mean

[sinful field]

Ok guys if anyone is wondering how to do 3d projection i have a script fully working available

[limber veldt]

I did a mockup (without moving anything yet, just giving a border) it does look good

Maybe a little too wide, it's 8px, could also try 4

And mitered corners

[potent pebble]

What is library sys and Vector2

[limber veldt]

sys is builtin, Vector2 is a class from pygame

More on pygame's Vector2 https://pyga.me/docs/ref/math.html#pygame.math.Vector2

And that method or function should be able to work with any triangle but it doesn't, surely something buggy in the code, but it works for bottom aligned equilateral triangles and is all I need it for

[dark vale]

anyone know how i can import pygame into vsc

[potent pebble]

Ohh okayy tyy

[pine smelt]

have u pip installed it

[quasi hamlet]

if you're only using sys for sys.exit, you may as well not import it and use just exit ¿right?

[limber veldt]

Yeah, sometimes I just raise sysexit or so

[limber veldt]

This function is working for all triangles that I've tested so far ```py

def is_inside(pos):
if (top.x - left.x) * (pos.y - left.y) - (top.y - left.y) * (pos.x - left.x) < 0:
return False
if (left.x - right.x) * (pos.y - right.y) - (left.y - right.y) * (pos.x - right.x) < 0:
return False
if (right.x - top.x) * (pos.y - top.y) - (right.y - top.y) * (pos.x - top.x) < 0:
return False
return True``` Going ccw on all checks seems to be working

[sinful field]

btw is this THE optimized way or just the one use ? Because you can check if the number of times the line between (a point you know is inside and the point to test) intercepting an edge of the triangle, IS or not even.

[spice tartan]

like this yes

[blissful grail]

does any1 have any like 2d pixel game code made with pygame?

[vagrant saddle]

sure do "view source" here https://pygame-web.github.io/showroom/pygame-scripts/org.pygame.touchpong.html

for other kinds look here https://itch.io/c/2563651/pygame-wasm and make a pick all their sources can be viewed ( beware that does not mean you can rip them off )

[blissful grail]

thanks! and yes ofcourse im not ripping them off i just have a small project im doing

not commercial

[pine smelt]

u can prolly check past pygame game jams or others on itch too

[limber veldt]

Implemented, probably make a couple more colors but now they're an option anyway

Oh and oops, gotta resize my obs to the new window size

Moved/resized some elements slightly

[spice tartan]

yeah that's neat

[limber veldt]

Yeah I like it, thanks for the suggestion

Made a couple more and I think I'm calling it good enough, culled some boards and backgrounds too, keeping the dark color margins, losing all the lights, they just don't look good to me

And all the wood margins, goners

Just wood frames and boards now

And only three of them, light (like oak-ish, brown like walnut-ish, and red like mohagoney-ish

Also keeping what I'll call the three or four standard boards, just ivory colored light squares and dark blue, green, brownish, etc

And the two graphics boards, I'm not sure about keeping them yet

And I'll probably link the board to border change but not border to board. So like, if you change board, the boarder changes to match it but if you change border, the board doesn't change

Just so one can customize to their liking

[blissful grail]

how can i resize a image in pygame? ive done
pygame.transform.scale(player_standing, (50, 30))
but it doesnt work

[pine smelt]

u need to assign it to a variable

so

player_standing = pygame.transform.scale(player_standing, (50, 30))

[blissful grail]

ah i didnt see this but well thanks for the help but ive already fixed it

does anyone perhaps know any free pixel art of a hotel

even one nice image

[round lichen]

Interesting 🧐

[finite crow]

Can anyone recommended a visual game engine. I got the AI already in place and the game engine and rules. But I want to build it with the idea to play it single player against the AI , AI vs AI and multiplayer. Im using pygame for the visuals right now.

[minor cloak]

https://renpy.org is a visual novel game engine. Not sure if that's the kind of visual you're looking for.

[covert rose]

i create a free 3d open source one(the game engine) using ursina and i will rewrite it using pyopengl soon if you want it check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZEWxUdrvlw

[finite crow]

Have you guys heard anything about https://www.panda3d.org/ ?

[finite crow]

For now I'm just thinking backgrounds I can snag for free, MTG related but they would just be digital game mats but also the board. Organizing the cards and stacks on that board and a mechanism to visualize your hard and interact with it and the board with valid actions. I guess I can leave placeholders in the meantime and try to flesh most of the visuals out first. uggh. sounds like a big undertaking. i know squach in this department.

[limber veldt]

I'd like to some day get into using 3d assets for 2d games, mainly for fx kind of things

[finite crow]

That would be cool, thats something I can picture myself needing here soon. Although I keep complicating it more. I just need something basic for now that works. Maybe I can get some people on github once I get a really solid foundation.

[covert rose]

its not enough for me plus coding there is less complicated because you have your own rules and in case the asset and prefab handling of ursina is much better than panda3d

[manic totem]

what does this mean
IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer indentation level

[rotund tangle]

it means youve indented something incorrectly

when youre using python, you need to make sure each of your blocks are indented to the same level

e.g.
✅

print('hello')
if age == 30:
  print('meow')
else:
  print('woof')

❌

print('hello')
if age == 30:
  print('meow')
 else:
print('woof')```

[floral quiver]

Hello any ideas on why this movement wont work?

import pygame

pygame.init()

SCREEN_HEIGHT = 500
SCREEN_WIDTH = 600

screen = pygame.display.set_mode((SCREEN_HEIGHT, SCREEN_WIDTH))

run = True

player = pygame.Rect((250, 250, 50, 50))

while run:
    pygame.draw.rect(screen, (255, 0, 0), player)

    key = pygame.key.get_pressed()
    if key[pygame.K_a] == True:
        player.move(-1, 0)

    for event in pygame.event.get():
        if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
            run = False

    pygame.display.update()

pygame.quit()

Its only meant to move in the left direction but it wont work

[pine smelt]

player.move() returns a rect object

ideally u should put player.move_ip(-1, 0), tho i would prefer player.x -= 1 in that sitation

also u should probably clear the screen every frame (screen.fill(some background colour)) or u'll end up with visual bugs

[floral quiver]

I did try the move_ip

Let me try player.x -= 1

[floral quiver]

This is the error I am getting

[pine smelt]

can u send ur current code

[floral quiver]

import pygame

pygame.init()

SCREEN_HEIGHT = 500
SCREEN_WIDTH = 600

screen = pygame.display.set_mode((SCREEN_HEIGHT, SCREEN_WIDTH))

run = True

player = pygame.Rect((250, 250, 50, 50))

while run:
    pygame.draw.rect(screen, (255, 0, 0), player)

    key = pygame.key.get_pressed()
    if key[pygame.K_a] == True:
        player.x -= 1

    for event in pygame.event.get():
        if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
            run = False

    pygame.display.update()

pygame.quit()

[pine smelt]

it works fine for me

[pine smelt]

these arent errors as opposd to suggestions to structure the code

[floral quiver]

oh okay i hadnt tested it assuming it was an error

[pine smelt]

u can simplify the "if key[pygame.K_a] == True:" to just if key[pygame.K_a]:

[floral quiver]

it does leave a trail tho

[pine smelt]

where?

[floral quiver]

I mean the rectangle leaves a trail

[pine smelt]

thats what i meant by this

in ur gameloop add a line like screen.fill((0, 0, 0))

before ur draw the player

[floral quiver]

Thanks

[pine smelt]

so every frame it "clears" the screen and u redraw it

[floral quiver]

Also, by default does it run at 60 fps?

[pine smelt]

no u need a clock object

so maybe after u create the screen object, add

[floral quiver]

Import time aswell?

[pine smelt]

clock = pygame.time.Clock()

#inside the game loop
while run:
  ### all ur game logic
  ### ...

  pygame.display.update()
  clock.tick(60)

[pine smelt]

no its an inbuilt pygame thing

[floral quiver]

Great thank you

[floral quiver]

How long have you been doing pygame im just curirous becuase i wanna get into python and pygame

[pine smelt]

uh on and off for a couple years now

[dusty breach]

Hi, I made this code: Find The Number: Custom Edition
I'm a starter by the way. (kind of)
Oh and, I'm gonna go active again probably at the end of the week

[finite crow]

Would you like help me build it? Like I said I got all the GameEngine, Rules and the AI implemented. I trained them for 1000 games last night and they were diffently getting better. I need to refine the rules a bit more but I got a really solid foundation.

[finite crow]

I got the idea of using two different rewards rules for AI, this way I can test different methods against each other to see how I can keep improving it

Hmm, what about a symbolic RL reward calculator. It would be like hyperparameter tuning except the difference is you build the symbolic engine with the idea trying different formulas and keeping the best ones.

sorry I should ask this in the AI channel.

[glossy scarab]

I wanna get started on game dev how can I ping me if you wanna help

[finite crow]

I sent ya an invite

[covert rose]

i will help

just tell me what your needs in my dm and what you aim for.

[finite crow]

That sounds awesome! I sent you an invite

[covert rose]

👍🏻

[floral quiver]

is there any sort of delta in pygame as in no matter the fps the movement stays the same? becuase at the moemnt the mroe fps you get the faster the moevemnt is..

[limber veldt]

Pygame has pygame.time.Clock() that is used for timing. CLOCK = pygame.time.Clock() somewhere in your program initialization and in the main loop, something like CLOCK.tick(60) to maintain 60 fps

If you want or need deltatime, I get it like this dt = CLOCK.tick(FPS) * 0.001

With FPS assigned to a variable holding my desired framerate

[floral quiver]

Thank but just wondering why you would multiply it by 0.001?

[limber veldt]

Because I want it in milliseconds, the return is in seconds

[floral quiver]

thank you

That makes sense

[floral quiver]

Oh and also one last thing if you dont mind. Im currenty learning about Object oriented programming, and im wodering where i could use and implement this in my game?

[limber veldt]

Subclassing pygame.sprite.Sprite() or any part of pygame really. I often subclass sprite() and Group() for my own purposes

[floral quiver]

so you jut make a class for your character or something?

[limber veldt]

Sure

For pretty much all sprites, I subclass .Sprite() so I can take advantage of pygame.sprite.Group() drawing and updating

And sometimes even subclass from there to make specific sprites from general

[floral quiver]

So you could have like a class to show what is in the players inventory or liek the movement speed, or jumping power...

[limber veldt]

Sure enough, I happen to make just about everything a class

[floral quiver]

interesting I am really new to python only about 1 week in id say some im really just trying to soak up the info I can!

[limber veldt]

Organizing behaviors into objects they belong to helps me keep thing organized to some degree anyway

Just as an example, and with the condition that I'm no pro (just a hobbyist), this shows an AnimatedButton() class and a few subclasses of it. It's just a button that changes image when clicked and changes back by itself after some short delay, and gets an argument action that is a method or function called when clicked https://paste.pythondiscord.com/I4OA

[floral quiver]

Any Ideas why this will not work? Its meant to close the window when you press the X

import pygame
pygame.init()

HEIGHT = 500
WIDTH = 500
BLACK = (0, 0, 0)
window = pygame.display.set_mode((HEIGHT, WIDTH))
clock = pygame.time.Clock()
running = True

while running:
    for event in pygame.event.get():
        if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
            running == False

    window.fill(BLACK)
    pygame.display.flip()
    clock.tick(60)

pygame.quit()

[limber veldt]

The == is a comparison operator not an equal like a single = for assigning

[floral quiver]

Thanks.

[limber veldt]

I think of the double equal in my head as 'is_equal` since it returns only two possibilittis, True or False

[limber veldt]

I tend to follow that as convention when naming methods or functions that return only a bool, not always though

[manic totem]

thanks for this

i got another error message that i never see before again today. do you also know what this mean
TypeError: 'builtin_function_or_method' object is not subscriptable

[proper peak]

!e it means you tried to subscript a function.

max[5]

[frank field]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     max[5]
004 |     ~~~^^^
005 | TypeError: 'builtin_function_or_method' object is not subscriptable

[manic totem]

subscript?

[manic totem]

what does this mean

TypeError: invalid destination position for blit

[glass light]

Hoping this doesn't get deemed spam but here's a clip of a game I've been working on in Pygame 🙂

Slight Bomberman inspiration but also taken a lot from more modern and difficult games (binding of isaac, celeste etc...)

[mystic plume]

Looks pretty cool, I might play this when it comes out.

[glass light]

Thanks!
It'll be another year or so at this rate. Lots of mechanics 😄

[limber veldt]

Looks great, and I spam shorts all the time, probably pushing the limits O.o

[limber veldt]

Pretty quiet channel and just seeing others posting projects is fun for me

[pine smelt]

been pretty busy to work on anything substantially and send here

i will be entering the new pygame jam tho when that starts (i think in november?)

[native sapphire]

fire

[covert rose]

https://github.com/hamedsheygh/DoomMaker/releases/tag/v1

[slow copper]

That's really cool

[glass light]

Love the pixel art on the releases page

[raven kernel]

oo

who drew that

john carmack?

[covert rose]

thanks! its honestly ai stuff 😉

dont forget to leave a star if you like the simple engine!

[covert rose]

i will add more assets + nav mesh + human npcs later on!

[covert snow]

No pygame window is even showing up when I run but I can see that the classes are correctly running due to a print statement I added

I am following this tutorial is that is helpful https://youtu.be/WViyCAa6yLI?si=4hSt3GtlY4nIPERy

Many thanks in advance

[limber veldt]

Have you tried running any other pygame code, like something known to work, and does it create a window?

[covert snow]

Yeah, I oppened a different project and it worked

It's not like it even opens then immediately closes. Just nothing happens

[limber veldt]

I'm not familiar enough with that project so can't say when it should start working

[covert snow]

There's one thing I think may be related

So randomly I kept getting some error from nowhere that I had to fix by changing the audio driver

After that, no window opened

[ivory cloak]

https://gyazo.com/4cdd6ae467f69368c226fcd402044c35 when ever i refresh the json data gets sent again. im confused

[limber veldt]

Yeah, I saw that over in Clear's server, quite strange

[covert snow]

So I'm wondering if something on pygame has gone wrong and impacted the project

Because it was a random audio error (I haven't even touched pygame audio yet) that appeared for seemingly no reason

Maybe that was the only visible issue

I think it was something to do with ALSA?

[limber veldt]

Might try reinstalling pygame-ce

But I don't know, worth a try though

[covert snow]

Might as well

[limber veldt]

Or continue trying to troubleshoot by trying other working code again, after having these driver issues

[covert snow]

Since my other project hasnt had these issues, they seem to be on pygame-ce's part I'll try reinstalling when I get the chance

Thanks for the help though

[limber veldt]

I wonder if there was an older version of pygame in your system before installing this one?

[covert snow]

Ooh, possibly

Tbh i never uninstalled pygame when I installed CE so it could be that

[limber veldt]

Because there could be conflicts there, installing -ce beside non-ce might be an issue

[covert snow]

I'll give it a look

Thanks

[limber veldt]

That's the general advice I've seen with installing -ce, to uninstall the old first

[covert snow]

so, i tried unistalling pygame and it said it skipped over it beacus eit wasnt installed. i then unistalled and reinstalled pygame ce and same issue

[limber veldt]

Sorry man, beyond my troubleshooting skills at this point, but I still suspect there's a conflict from an old installation somewhere

If other pygame-ce code works and this code doesn't, that makes me think it's project specific so comparing your code to Clear's would probbaly be my next step

[covert snow]

I've litterly went charcter by character to make sure it was 1-1. the only change being ahving to change the audio drivers

Without the audio driver chnage i get these errors

@covert snow ➜ /workspaces/Silver-Dofe (main) $ cd /workspaces/Silver-Dofe ; /usr/bin/env /home/codespace/.python/current/bin/python3 /home/codespace/.vscode-remote/extensions/ms-python.debugpy-2024.12.0-linux-x64/bundled/libs/debugpy/adapter/../../debugpy/launcher 47991 -- /workspaces/Silver-Dofe/code/main.py
pygame-ce 2.5.1 (SDL 2.30.6, Python 3.12.1)
ALSA lib confmisc.c:767:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4732:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4732:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1246:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4732:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:5220:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2642:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default

so uh,

ive fixed it

ive just cloned my repo

and ran it somwehre else

now it works i guess

thanks so much anyway

[limber veldt]

Well, both the members here I know who might know anything about this are not currently online...

[covert snow]

do you know why that fixed it?

[limber veldt]

No idea, but awesome

[covert snow]

doesnt have the audio driver problem aswell

[limber veldt]

That's a great tutorial, glad it's working for you (no I haven't done that one myself)

But I have watched it

[covert snow]

granted, now im having commit isuees

[limber veldt]

I watch all of Clear's releases

[covert snow]

so i dont think i can use codepaces now?

im not to experience with git stuff but thats where the issues are

[limber veldt]

You're more experienced with it than I am, so maybe others know

[covert snow]

well i can still commit to agit hub repo with or without codspaces so i odnt hink it really matters

[covert snow]

would love to know why this debaucle hapened from them

so, ive deleted my codespace then created a new one from my working code. That codebase has the exact same issue as the first one

im really confused

guess no codespaces for me

[icy vale]

Yo

Should i directly jump into game dev with python

With some basic knowledge such as functions statements etc

Or stick to normal python coding

[glass light]

Learn Python for a bit first

Get a good grasp then try some arcade games to start. Pong etc

[limber veldt]

Same advice here, having at least some understanding of classes and objects helps a lot

[smoky kindle]

Hi guys

[limber veldt]

Hi

[smoky kindle]

Whatsup?

[limber veldt]

Just refactoring some ideas

[smoky kindle]

Oo!!

[limber veldt]

There are a couple of things I don't like about some of my code, so re-imagining some of it

And one main issue that still needs fixing

[smoky kindle]

do it!!

[smoky kindle]

what is it?

[limber veldt]

It's a chess game with undo and redo moves, right? I want to mass undo/redo to any state in the moves-so-far list, and it's almost working but not quite

[smoky kindle]

Oo i see!!

[limber veldt]

Undo/redo both work fine on their own but I want them to work faster, like in an iteration, like a while loop

[smoky kindle]

Btw i'm not a game developer!! But a web designer!! don’t mind it

[limber veldt]

I get it, each does their own thing, I like game dev as a hobby

[smoky kindle]

Oh nice!! My friend is in the way to learning game development and i'm learning web development

[manic totem]

why i cant blit the enemy

enemy = pygame.transform.scale(pygame.image.load("game assets/enemy.png"), (50, 50)).convert_alpha()
enemy_mask = pygame.mask.from_surface(enemy)

enemy_list = []

#Timer
game_timer = pygame.USEREVENT + 1
pygame.time.set_timer(game_timer, 900)

#game while loop
run = True
game_active = True

while run:
    clock.tick(60)


    for event in pygame.event.get():
        if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
                run = False    
        
        #if event.type == pygame.MOUSEMOTION:
            #print(event.pos)
        if game_active:
            if event.type == pygame.MOUSEBUTTONDOWN:
                if jump_rect.collidepoint(event.pos):
                    gravity = -15

            if event.type == game_timer:
                enemy_list.append(enemy_mask.get_rect(bottomleft = (500, 370)))

        


    if game_active:
        #background
        screen.blit(sky, (0, 0))
        screen.blit(ground, (0, 530))
        #pygame.draw.line(screen,'Red',text_rect.topleft, text_rect.bottomright)
        
        #enemy
        #enemy_rect.left -= 5
        screen.blit(enemy, enemy_list)```

ignore those codes lines that i commented. i've been practicing some stuff

[glass light]

Have you heard of the memento pattern?
I used this in the past to good results. Works great on turn based stuff. Real-time not so much

[limber veldt]

I haven't but I'll check it out

Thanks

[limber veldt]

Your enemy_list is a list, it needs to be a single destination as a tuple, tryscreen.blit(enemy, enemy_list[0]) to get the first element of that list instead of the list itself

[manic totem]

oh i see

[limber veldt]

And you're gonna need a guard before blitting that

[manic totem]

i need to make it as tuple first

[limber veldt]

Because if the list is empty, it's an index error

[manic totem]

does that apply to other stuff

[limber veldt]

What?

[manic totem]

guard?

[limber veldt]

Or learn to use sprites

Look at your code, enemy_list = []

[manic totem]

yup that my code

[limber veldt]

If you try blitting something at index 0 into that empty list, it will be an error

[manic totem]

so how do i fix that

[limber veldt]

Put a guard

[manic totem]

what is a guard

[limber veldt]

Something like if enemy_list: before trying to blit something there

[manic totem]

oh ok

[limber veldt]

That will test if there is anything in the list

If there is, blit, if not, don't blit

Sprites and groups man, really

Really really really

See, pygame.sprite.Group() can be drawn any time and it will draw whatever is in the group, if it's empty, nothing will happen

It's basically a list of sprites that the group can update and draw. if nothing is in it, it does nothing and you can skip this kind of guard

[manic totem]

ah ok

[limber veldt]

So it's a container for as many sprites as you want to add to it

It's a little advaanced stuff, like learning how to subclass pygame sprites but don't let that discourage you, it is not that hard

[manic totem]

i'll gonna do that later. rn im really some more simple stuff like timer for now

[blissful grail]

hi

anyone have base code for a minecraft client?

[vagrant saddle]

sounds like pyCraft

[honest heron]

@limber veldt how did u become so good at programming in python

[limber veldt]

I'm not that good, but maybe good at finding how to do some things

As with almost anything, it just comes down to practice everything you discover and keep discovering