game-development

[bold hill]

May I ask a question??

What would I need for I'm getting images out of py game?

[limber veldt]

https://www.pygame.org/docs/ref/image.html#pygame.image.save

[versed aurora]

@nocturne quartz i just did this lol, i can do actual pixel art but i just did this to test it

[nocturne quartz]

omg

thats a paddle

💀

btw i cant even think of being here its an honor
ive never even made a game other than snake...

[versed aurora]

oh for the paddle why dont you call position_data just like 'rect'

[nocturne quartz]

where??

[nocturne quartz]

i am calling the position data?

                if 6 > (self.ball_position.x - (other.position_data.topleft[0] + ball_cordinate)) > -6:
...

[versed aurora]

well its not just position, no? its also size and allat
also i kinda mess up on this too but what id recommend is having coordinates be relative to the width and height

that way if you change the resolution, it doesnt immediately screw everything up

[nocturne quartz]

r u suggesting me to use .get_react() or smth?

[nocturne quartz]

yes its just positions

[versed aurora]

what i mean is like you have if 800 > self.ball_position.x > 750:
if the resolution is changed though that'll mess up

[nocturne quartz]

truee

what do u mean by "having coordinates be relative to the width and height"

tho

[versed aurora]

so like say you want the center of the screen
rn that'd be 400,300

since the res is 800x600

[nocturne quartz]

right

[versed aurora]

but say you change the resolution to like 1920x1080
now 400,300 is like over on the top left (i think pygame starts from the top left at least)

also these can be made into one

[nocturne quartz]

yes i get it but whats ur fix

to that problem

and then u might also want to like increase the size of ball and paddle?

[versed aurora]

well what i do is declare 2 variables for the width and height, i usually just use 'w' and 'h', but you might want to just call em 'width' and 'height'

then for the center, it's just w/2,h/2

[nocturne quartz]

that would be alot of tweeking i cant imagine how games have options to change soo many resolutions 😭

[versed aurora]

well what you tend to do is use a different sort of space for the in game coordinates, and the screen space coordinates

[nocturne quartz]

soo everything is relative to the edges of display

[versed aurora]

give or take, yeah

relative coordinates are one way of doing it

its like fps
if you have the time be frame based, a higher fps makes the game run faster
but if you use something like deltatime it'll be the same speed, no matter what fps

[versed aurora]

which i keep on forgetting to do in my own stuff lmao

[nocturne quartz]

lol

you know your stuff well tho

[versed aurora]

im not an expert but ive been screwing around for a few years

[nocturne quartz]

so in pygame.Rect(..)x and y should be center of the screen and its width and height should also be smth relative to the screen so when u change res everything would still look cool

then i assume the image scaling should also be smth relative to the screen

instead of (100, 100)

[versed aurora]

i think pygame has a way of doing coordinates that are unlinked form screenspace but idk

[nocturne quartz]

why is ur paddle soo big 😭 and why is it a square

[versed aurora]

i figured you just did that for testing lol

oh i see how your velocity thing works

that's an interesting way of doing it

[nocturne quartz]

:DDD

FINALLY

AFTER AN HOUR RAHHH

[nocturne quartz]

bro uve been doing it for like soo long idk when am i gonna get better than u 😦

anw now i need to make like blocks to break!!

one problem solved 99 to go

[versed aurora]

honestly it comes in stages

[nocturne quartz]

r u like at the final stage of game dev 😟

[versed aurora]

nah

[nocturne quartz]

well u havent like super helped me or anything w my code but u told me about the scaling stuff and i was kinda getting bored and got to hangout w u soo thanks for that :3

appreciate it :DDD

[versed aurora]

np

honestly, you already have most of the difficult stuff down

classes and functions are the things most people get hung up on

[nocturne quartz]

i mean like game dev specifically

yk believe it or not u actually taught me how to like add velocities to position 😭 like month ago ig

[versed aurora]

theres better ways to do it btw but they're more complicated

[nocturne quartz]

when i was makin snake game

[versed aurora]

ah

just adding vel to position is called euler integration i think?

[nocturne quartz]

wanna take a look it at?

its smoll

[versed aurora]

sure

i remember making snake in py

good times

[nocturne quartz]

i need to add a feature to it tho which im procrastinating on and i think it requires threading which im nor familiar with

r u familiar with threading in python?

i actually kinda forgot this code ...

[versed aurora]

ish

i havent used it much though

[nocturne quartz]

!paste

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[versed aurora]

oh btw one thing i added to your code for testing is making z reset the ball

i also swapped ball_position and ball_velocity and paddle_velocity to just pos and vel

so in check movement i just added

if keys[pygame.K_z]:
    self.pos = VectorXd(w/2,1)
    self.vel = VectorXd(0, 3)

[nocturne quartz]

but ppl said that u should always make your variables more descriptive??

is pos and vel considerd good practise?

[versed aurora]

well if it's in ball it's kind of obvious that it's for the ball

idk if pos and vel are the absolute best but it's what i use

in naming variables you're constantly balancing readability with compactness i find

[nocturne quartz]

oh i did that because like if i make

def velocity(self):
...
```in the ball class then it would be same as
```py
def velocity(....
```ugh tbh idk what im yapping about yes different classes methods can def have same names :))

[nocturne quartz]

exaclty

exactly**

[versed aurora]

oh for your vector btw you can implement something like __getitem__ instead of a method for getting the coordinates

or __iter__

__iter__ is a great one because it makes your object able to do a lot just by default

like casting it to list or tuple

https://github.com/gloop-6/gloop_vector_class/blob/main/vector_class.py
for reference

[nocturne quartz]

but do i really need that right now?

[versed aurora]

not necessarily but i noticed it being an issue in your snake c ode

i think you have a different version of your vector stuff between the brick breaker game you've been showing and the snake

[nocturne quartz]

reset it to what back where the game started

[nocturne quartz]

man..

from math import sqrt
import random
class VectorXd:
    def __init__(self, x, y):
        self.x = x
        self.y = y
        self.position = (self.x, self.y)
    
    def __add__(self, other):
        # if other is the instance of this class
        if isinstance(other, self.__class__):
            return (self.x + other.x, self.y + other.y)
        return VectorXd(self.x + other, self.y + other)

    def __sub__(self, other):
        if isinstance(other, self.__class__):
            return (self.x - other.x, self.y - other.y) 
        return VectorXd(self.x - other, self.y - other)
    
    def __eq__(self, value: object) -> bool:
        if isinstance(value, self.__class__):
            if self.x == value.x and self.y == value.y:
                return True
        else:
            return False
        
    def get_distance(self, other):
        if isinstance(other, self.__class__):
            return sqrt((self.x - other.x)**2 + (self.y - other.y)**2)
        else:
            raise TypeError("expected the same instance of that class")
        
    def randomly_change_position(self):
        self.x = random.randint(10, 740)
        self.y = random.randint(10, 540)

    def get_position(self):
        return (self.x, self.y)


    
    
    # self is the instance
    def print_first_cor(self):
        print(self.x)

try this

[versed aurora]

ah

btw there's math.dist

[nocturne quartz]

what does that do?

[versed aurora]

it's what get_distance does, but builtin

it takes in two iterables

[nocturne quartz]

when should i start opensourcing stuff tho

[nocturne quartz]

damnnn

[versed aurora]

generally, i say when you start using the same code in multiple projects

[nocturne quartz]

i dont want ppl to judge me by my bad code 😓

[versed aurora]

personally, i embrace it

its part of the process

some of my old code is fucked

[versed aurora]

there's also math.hypot which is the distance from an iterable to 0,0 (or 0,0,0, or whatever dimension), so functionally the length of it

[nocturne quartz]

interesting

[nocturne quartz]

is it more fun coding all that and then seeing it work than just memorising names?

[versed aurora]

depends

[nocturne quartz]

is it opensource

[versed aurora]

most of it

well, eh

i have like 3000 python files in my scripts folder lol

most of whic hare just a few lines to test some thing or other

[nocturne quartz]

i seeee

soo did u run the snake game

[versed aurora]

yeah im trying to get it to work

[nocturne quartz]

u js need 3 pngs

thats all u already have the vector class

[versed aurora]

yeah i added them, it gets mad about the video system not being initialized oddly

[nocturne quartz]

mouth_image name is wrong tho it should be smth like skin_image

[versed aurora]

this code is kinda hard to read but to be fair my own snake implementation is kinda nightmarish

[nocturne quartz]

thats the skin 😭 idk what i was think but idk it it looks good or anything

it gets blitted when snake comes closer to food

[versed aurora]

aw yep

[nocturne quartz]

snake = Snake(snake_image= simage, mouth_image= mimage, blood_image= dimage)
like the minage here

[nocturne quartz]

damn ansi stuff

[vital plume]

Any place where I can ask beginner questions to get help?

[nocturne quartz]

#python-discussion

[versed aurora]

ig here
depends on what you mean by beginner ig

[nocturne quartz]

there i think

[versed aurora]

swapping that actually worked for a sec, it errored again after a bit though

very odd

[vital plume]

Yea pretty beginner. Was just wondering how to make a program where it asks for a randon number, and if the user just presses enter the whole program won't send error.

[nocturne quartz]

it works fine for me?

[vital plume]

I found out how to do this with string but not with integer.

[nocturne quartz]

cuz ur head might be crashed

i dont have any error handling logic there

[twin sleet]

can anyone help me with this?

[versed aurora]

easiest way is just try-except and try converting it to integer
a better way is to check the input with something like isdigit()

[twin sleet]

its saying i dont have a module named "settings"

[vital plume]

Isn't there any nil values for integers?

[nocturne quartz]

did u install pygame?

[twin sleet]

this is my settings

[versed aurora]

wdym

[twin sleet]

i believe so yes

[versed aurora]

is 'settings' in the same folder

[twin sleet]

how do i check that?

[versed aurora]

like in file explorer

[vital plume]

Like set a integer value to nil. So if no values has been set to the integer it will just be nil.

[versed aurora]

oh, None works ig

it's not really an integer but it works as a fallback

[versed aurora]

yeah that seems to be it

[nocturne quartz]

be careful while playing 🤧

[versed aurora]

idk why it did it on start

[nocturne quartz]

also i need to fw the blood thingo and ig i need threading for that

[twin sleet]

ok i put them in same folder and it worked, thanks

[versed aurora]

np

python really doesnt like it when you have modules in a different folder most of the time
you can do it but it's kinda fucked

[versed aurora]

wait why

[nocturne quartz]

like wait for 3 seconds instead of "pausing" everything keep blitting the blood and then quit the game after 3 seconds

[versed aurora]

also good on you, using a deque

deques are very nice for a lot of things, i like using them for trails

[nocturne quartz]

deque is my another name bro

[versed aurora]

that O(1) popleft is fire

[nocturne quartz]

:DDD

ty

[versed aurora]

oh i meant as an attribute of deque itself but np

https://wiki.python.org/moin/TimeComplexity

very useful

[nocturne quartz]

yeah ik

[nocturne quartz]

    def display_snake(self):
        for segment in self.all_segments:
            if self.mouth_in_action:
                screen.blit(self.mouth_image, (segment.position))
            elif self.snake_is_dead:
                screen.blit(self.blood_image, (segment.position))
            else:
                screen.blit(self.snake_image, (segment.position))

like its snake_is_dead is never gonna get true

[nocturne quartz]

that requires threading right @versed aurora

[versed aurora]

nah

what i usually do in that case is have some sort of countdown variable

so when its above 0, decrement it, when it's equal to 0, then quit
there's probably a better way to do it these days but it's the OG way of doing it

[twin sleet]

can someone explain why the class doesnt have the run attribute?

[versed aurora]

your run is inside __init__

unindent it one layer

[versed aurora]

one thing that comes to mind is just checking the time elapsed or creating a timer

[nocturne quartz]

can u be more explicit what is it???

[nocturne quartz]

thats what i thought mate

[versed aurora]

hold on 1 sec

[nocturne quartz]

and what someone else recommended me

but i didnt get em

[twin sleet]

oh im stupid , thankyou 👍 😂

[nocturne quartz]

how can i create a timer and so when then timer ends quit the game?

and that timer should also start when the snake_is_dead is true

right

ive never fw time module much in python other than using .sleep()

[versed aurora]

https://www.pygame.org/docs/ref/time.html#pygame.time.set_timer
this might work but it seems to do it multiple times

[versed aurora]

in general if you find yourself doing something yourself, chances are pygame has something for it
it is good to try doing stuff yourself though

[nocturne quartz]

i always do stuff on me own 💅

all i need to do is create a timer

[nocturne quartz]

which starts when this is true instead of just quitting the game when it isnt true

[versed aurora]

what i've always done is something like this

countdown = None #not initialized yet
while running:

    if some_condition_that_ends_the_game:
        countdown = 60

    if countdown: #decrement it once it's active
        countdown -= 1

    elif countdown == 0: 
        pygame.quit()

this doesn't use any form of delta time though, so it's not optimal, but it's dead easy

[nocturne quartz]

that would be less than a sec

i want to SEE DA BLOOD

[versed aurora]

well yeah

[nocturne quartz]

for at least 3 seconds

on scren

[nocturne quartz]

u dont wanna see the blood? when snake dies 😟

[versed aurora]

you'd just set it to be longer
using something like time.time() would probably be better in terms of actually timing it, or using the pygame thing

[nocturne quartz]

time.time() just givees u real time

[versed aurora]

yeah

[nocturne quartz]

u should maybe try perf_counter()

for this

thats more accurate

ig

but once u get it then what

[versed aurora]

probably

[nocturne quartz]

how r u gonna like start the time and utill the timer is going keep ruinng the shi

when it ends make running = False i think

[nocturne quartz]

maybe u shoul add 5 seconds to that

ughhh

idkk

what im thinking

[versed aurora]

check when the difference of the time when the game ending event happened and the current time is greater than 3 seconds

or the timer from pygame which creates an event

[nocturne quartz]

ohhhh soooo if
self.snake_is_dead:
game_ending_time = time.perf_counter()

[versed aurora]

yeah
then each frame you can subtract it from the current time lol

[nocturne quartz]

if current_time - game_ending_time == 3:
running = false

would this work

why u laughing 😭

thats rude 😔 im js a guy

IM JOKIN nothing is rude

[versed aurora]

lol

oh yeah i should figure out how i wanna do my terminal module
i wanna try rendering a parallaxing scene in realtime

like this thing i did a few years ago, but better and more detailed

im not 100% sure how i want to render it (since i only have a background and foreground layer to work with, and i want to have effects like rain and snow
i also dont know how id implement additive layers

[bold hill]

Does anyone remember who made the MS paint looking python terminal sorry

[karmic wolf]

I'm trying to make an online multiplayer card game and I really don't want to code a website for that from scratch. Are there any websites or something similar that just allows coding the game itself

[pine smelt]

the easiest way is probably using godot. tho ive never used godot, ive heard good things from its networking module

otherwise u'd have to learn sockets and stuff

maybe ask the pygame-web channel in the pygame discord

[honest heron]

does anybody have a good tutorial that actually explains opp well

I struggle to understand it when everything else is really easy

[nimble spade]

bro i really suggest to just go on youtube and learn pygame. Then just built games with it and you will get comfortable with oop since you will be working with classes quite a lot.

and there are also free tutorials on w3schools that explain everything well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeznW_7DlB0 this is a nice tutorial by tech with tim

[honest heron]

@nimble spade yea I use it but most of the time I get errors then it takes awhile to find it cus its so dam weird or I gotta watch a tutorial to be able to implement it

opp is def the more weird part of this language like roblox Lua is very easy because their object orientated progrtamming is so much different and simple

but ill watch that video

[brisk yew]

you'd want a >= instead

[limber veldt]

My pieces currently, I got em working really well https://paste.pythondiscord.com/UUBQ

Mornin all o/

Now I can get the imports/loads out of there and send those images instead of loading them

[limber veldt]

And new buttons again

Those look clean and clearly indicate their hot area

[versed fox]

That looks awesome!
Do you have a gh repo for this project or nah?

[limber veldt]

Not yet and thanks!

Cool little groups, just for capture areas https://paste.pythondiscord.com/R4CA

They're only responsibility, drawing those icons in the right places and the right order (though that doesn't really matter with my current setup anymore)

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[lunar venture]

link pls

[pine plinth]

w3s is shit

i would recommend against using it and sharing it with others

[turbid cairn]

nah it's way better than it used to be

it used to be really bad

[bold raptor]

I made Flappy bird like game using pygame module but I don't know why my pipe are getting invisible
Can anyone help me please

[bold raptor]

<@&831776746206265384>

[crimson hound]

Please don't ping moderators for help

[bold raptor]

Okk sorry
Can you please tell me
Where I can probably find help
Like in which channel

[dull atlas]

#❓｜how-to-get-help has a description on how to open a help post in the help forum

[bold raptor]

Ok thanks

[astral spire]

this looks really cool!

what window library did you use?

[versed aurora]

none

[astral spire]

what do you mean?

is it ascii or something?

[versed aurora]

yes

[astral spire]

... wow

thats fun

huh,

nice work! I respect the philosophy XD

[versed aurora]

thx

well technically it's ansi and some unicode but you can do it without unicode

i wasnt quite as good at terminal rendering a year or two ago

[astral spire]

why did you decide to do it that way?

[versed aurora]

cause its cool

[astral spire]

it looks really clean now, I didn't even notice!

[versed aurora]

you can see the cursor blinking cause i forgot to print \x1b[?25l

quite silly

[astral spire]

...

[versed aurora]

i honestly find it somewhat easier to do terminal graphics

[astral spire]

oh course... silly mistake... I totally knew that... its like suuuper basic.....

[versed aurora]

its the terminal code to hide the cursor

also the rendering in that video is pretty inefficient since its doing each pixel even when it doesnt need to

[astral spire]

dont want to do some opengl + glfw triangles? XD

[astral spire]

gotcha!

[versed aurora]

i've considered it

i sometimes do pygame but i find pygame code to be kinda clunky

[astral spire]

I hate to break it to you but I don't think it'll matter much given you are just printing to the screen lmao

[astral spire]

huh I haven't touched pygame before

[versed aurora]

it can

[astral spire]

well Im afraid Imma dip it's late where I am

thanks for the chat

[versed aurora]

np

[versed aurora]

doing each pixel individually vs just printing lines can change the speed a lot

my main bottleneck these days is the max speed the terminal can display stuff like in my gif player

[modern flint]

gifs in the terminal sounds crazy

[limber veldt]

All functionality working, and I mean everything. Can setup custom positions, play them against the bot, reset the position and play it again. The setup mode is way cool now

[versed aurora]

windows terminal renders it faster but i didnt feel like changing it from the furry theme i have currently

[modern flint]

Wow nice

[broken wren]

How can I use both pygame and tkinter together in macos anyone have any idea or way to use both at same time.

[leaden bane]

Why would you want to do that?

[pine smelt]

some gui element prolly

[versed aurora]

oh btw how it works is i render all the frames to big strings with ANSI color codes for each pixel and then it just loops through them and plays each frame
i could probably try to optimize it some time but it's mainly just limited by how fast the terminal can display it

[hexed galleon]

y’all I’m trying to learn python any advice?

[limber veldt]

I've used tkinter in pygame, there was nothing particularly difficult about it but I'm on windows, may be different on mac. I needed the OpenSaveAsDialog and OpenLoadDialog or so, worked fine

[honest heron]

um suddenly my folder for my graphics just wont work

I just remade one but even that one wont work I think this one jus kinda stopped working and its stuck this as its directory

[glad locust]

I didnt even realize this channel existed

[modern flint]

Welcome!

[glad locust]

Thanks

[limber veldt]

Does anyone have a fast or just efficient way to rotate a 2d array by 180 degrees? My mehtod is working fine and all but I'm curious if there's some other way

[glad locust]

like a vec2?

[limber veldt]

I'm just doing swaps for each row then for each item in each row

Custom objects in the lists

Like row[0], row[7] = row[7], row[0] and so on

[glad locust]

like reversing the rows and columns?

[limber veldt]

Yeah

[glad locust]

if its a python list I imagine the fastest way is to just reverse the inner lists then reverse the outer list.

[limber veldt]

Yeah, I might be able to do that now that I think about it, I know about reverse() but hadn't thought about it

[glad locust]

you could always keep a rotated version of the matrix aswel

since they would share the same mutable objects

[normal silo]

What about leaving it unchanged? You just access it in reverse order now.

[limber veldt]

It's chess board squares so it has to mutate when I flip the board

[glad locust]

reverse itterators are generally pretty slow

[limber veldt]

So things keep moving to the right targets

[normal silo]

Why?

After flipping if you are told to access the top left item it just remaps that index to the bottom right.

[glad locust]

instead of rotating the data, why dont you just make the algorithm access the data as if it were rotated?

or would that require reverse itterating?

[limber veldt]

The biggest problem there would be going back to states that are already complete

[glad locust]

well when you rotate the board are you going to keep a copy of the unrotated board?

[normal silo]

You need track a bool for flipped in the state.

[limber veldt]

Because when a piee is moved by a bot, the board is immedietely updated

Whether or not the piece has arrived at it's target spot

Oh I tracll that

Come on now

[normal silo]

You mean animation targetting?

[limber veldt]

Yeah, the bots moves are animated

But I don't want the logic to wait for the piece to get there

[normal silo]

Upon flip all targets need to be remapped.

[limber veldt]

I must have the logic before the animation, so that all moves can be done in a while loop

So bot gets a move, I assign the piece a .target, mark the spots in the logic, and send the piece on its way

So target is already assign

ed

If flipping the board while the piece is moving, the target either has to move (my method) or be reassigned

[normal silo]

The target position is reassigned / remapped. It's flipped too.

[limber veldt]

Yeah, so flipping the board at any time keeps it valid

[normal silo]

Current position in the animation is also flipped.

[glad locust]

you could try this at the start of a game:

def rotate_board(board):
  board = board[:] #shallow copy the order of the rows
  for i in range(len(board)):
    row = board[i][:] #shallow copy the order of the columns
    row.reverse()
    board[i] = row
  board.reverse()
  return board

board = [...]

rotated_board = rotate_board(board)

``` I havent tested it but it should work.  then you can just use whichever one you need since both boards share the same mutable object references.

that way you only need to reverse everything once.

[limber veldt]

Hmm, that's good idea, thanks

Pre flip it then just swap reference

[glad locust]

yes, just flip then mutate the objects, since objects are mutable anyways

or objects are by-reference in the terms of other languages

[limber veldt]

I think all of my references to it are now in the form of [row][col]

I had some earlier methods that could find a square by string, I'd have to check to make sure I'm not doing any of that anymore, made a lot of changes lately

[normal silo]

You can also have a function that takes the indices and gives you the remapped ones based on if it's flipped. For ergonomics you can use a class with dunderscore getitem implemented.

[glad locust]

better to just have a property that returns the correctly oriented board.

[limber veldt]

I could fairly easily now flip indices too, might need another method to reassign targets though

[normal silo]

Reassign animation targets (vec2s) is actual rotation or two mirrors.

[glad locust]

something like:

class Game:
  _board:list[list[object]]
  _rotated_board:list[list[object]]
  rotated:bool # False is _board, True is _rotated_board
  ...

  @property
  def board(self):
    return self._rotated_board if self.rotated else self._board

Then you dont have to worry about wether or not you are using the right board orientation

[limber veldt]

Well, my targets are vectors but the point they are targeting is the center of a pygame rect (also a vector if I need)

And I can easily flip a vector

[glad locust]

since you will always access data via board_instance.board anyways

[normal silo]

Yeah you just need the vector tails to be on the board center. Then it's just negate x and y.

[limber veldt]

yep

My piece movement is stated so the state will continue until the target is reached while other things continue updating as usual

[normal silo]

My idea is like this but you implement getitem so you can directly do: board[row, col] and it just remaps it in the impl.

[glad locust]

why not just use property though, its easier

[normal silo]

It's about the same.

[glad locust]

Changed the class to Game

[limber veldt]

I'm taking this in atm...

Because that would be nice

[glad locust]

The only issue I might see with this is it wouldnt let you use list methods and operations on the class without wrapping them yourself.

[normal silo]

Yeah you need to implement such things then. Since you are basically making a custom 2d array type with a special transpose thing.

Very OOP style.

I find that when some type is core, it's worth the effort to make it nice.

You could have the property too.

[glad locust]

Because of ducktyping the interface should be about the same unless you need extra methods.

But then you can just extend list if thats the case and use that class instead of a 2d list.

[limber veldt]

Maybe I could flip the pieces instead of the board

[glad locust]

depends if you need to flip it back and fourth

[limber veldt]

Like each piece is a subclass of Piece so adding a method for any piece to swap sides would be rudimentary

Board flipping in its current state...working

[glad locust]

nice

[limber veldt]

Since it works, what I'm up to now is just refactoring a little here and there, it never stops, and rethinking

And you both gave me things to think about, so thank you

[glad locust]

no problem

[limber veldt]

I think my next play will be trying to flip pieces instead of board

That will be much easier

I think

I dunno, I'll make a backup, lol

The only pieces it matters to are pawns since they're the only directionally moving pieces

But they alread yhave methods to switch drections

    def flip(self):
        old_y = self.current_spot.y
        new_y = 7 - old_y
        old_x = self.current_spot.x
        new_x = 7 - old_x
        new_spot = self.board.spot_array[new_y][new_x]
        self.rect.center = new_spot.rect.center
        self.current_spot = new_spot``` quickie piece.flip()

There will be details to work out, cause they not only need to flip but reflect

I dunno, I think this is working fine

Yeah, works great, wayyyy better than mutating the list

[young parrot]

So I decided on a whim to make a game.

Over a week later and I haven't even intialized the window.

Just been writing code and learning.

[limber veldt]

Small steps will lead to bigger steps, keep it up

[young parrot]

I do have some experience with game making. Not a lot but some. This is my first time using a framework and not an engine though. It's been fun.

I decided I wanted to experiment with something intense, so I'm making a bullet hell.

[limber veldt]

I mean why not

[noble mantle]

I started a game 2 weeks ago and haven’t even thought about adding ui. It’s just terminal rn. The hard part was ai move evaluation.

You got this, don’t worry about the process. It’s about learning!

[noble socket]

i added scrolling
how do i improve scrolling

[glad locust]

Looks good to me, what were you hoping to improve?

[noble socket]

make it so that scrolling is only activated when player is at the center

[glad locust]

Like how to keep the player centered vertically?

[noble socket]

yeah

no

it already did that

like initially the player is at the left or right and it doesn't scroll
only when the player is at the center does it start scrolling

[noble socket]

did it
it doesn't work that well

[vagrant bane]

Im not 100% sure if this is where I should ask but, In my beginners python uni course, we have been instructed for our final that we need to make a ''game'' or "some sort of generative tool", however we are STRICTLY limited to what is taught in class (image attached from syllabus). I have 3 weeks to decide on what to do.

I was wondering if anyone had any game or generative tool suggestions to push me in the right way. I have been suggested black jack however I have already overheard many other students deciding on this game to recreate. Any suggestions are welcomed. Thank you for your time!!

If this is the wrong channel to ask please redirect me and I will delete my message and move it accordingly!

[devout jacinth]

Tic Tac Toe

[young parrot]

I don't even have any terminal. I'm just building the framework and learning how the tech I'm using works.

[noble mantle]

Othello

With this you could also realy impress your teacher with a simple Alpha Beta Pruning algorithm to have it be single player

[young parrot]

I really like data driven programming so I've been setting things up so I can write game objects in TOML.

That part is almost done.

[young parrot]

So there are different libraries to make python games. I've heard of pygame, pyglet, and arcade.

Are there any other ones?

Like I'll stick to pygame for now with the idea that I can port my game to a different library if I need to. I'm learning a lot just from this.

[vagrant saddle]

also 2D: https://electronstudio.github.io/raylib-python-cffi 3D: Panda3D

and both can work on web like pygame-ce

[young parrot]

CE?

[vagrant saddle]

https://github.com/pygame-community/pygame-ce/

[young parrot]

So... It's a more recent and still maintained fork of pygame?

[vagrant saddle]

it is indeed maintened and by a number of people ( including me )

[young parrot]

From what I understand, pygame more or less rules when it comes to small scale games as well as learning the ins and outs of game programming because it leaves most of the work in your hands?

[vagrant saddle]

yes pygame same as Panda3D does not "get in the way" imposing some framework

counterpart is you have no ready made interface to make a game like scratch/godot

[young parrot]

But I do need to keep in mind that it uses software rendering.

[limber veldt]

I've played with a few game engines, pygame is, at least for me, more fun

[vagrant saddle]

which open a wider market to your games

[young parrot]

It is both a boon and a limitation, I do understand.

[limber veldt]

Work is happening on using GPU in pygame-ce...pygame.Window

[young parrot]

What is the best way to deploy the game? Both for executable and for web?

[vagrant saddle]

dunno i only do web and wasi, cause it's my field of work/research and don't have much time to make games. You should ask on pygame community discord people are making multiple target release on itch

but code side, you can keep the same for desktop or web

only mobile is a bit different because no keyboard and multitouch and maybe other sensors

in that case you can handle multiple events types like in that page https://pygame-web.github.io/showroom/pygame-scripts/org.pygame.touchpong.html

[young parrot]

Ok so what is the best way to deploy for web?

[vagrant saddle]

for pygame you have pygbag and pyscript, for Panda3D only pygbag

[vagrant saddle]

or pygame-scripts like this one but it may be not easy/efficient to bundle assets with that way of publishing

[young parrot]

I know pyscript. And by know it, I mean I know how to use it.

But how do I set the display of the game to a DOM element?

[vagrant saddle]

when using pygame-ce you should have a dom canvas element with id=canvas

SDL2 should find it automatically, if not then look at pyodide documentation abouts canvases

note that if you have music background in the game you should use pygbag instead of pyscript

or write some js to load music

[young parrot]

Do I need to uninstall pygame if I want to install pygame-ce?

[vagrant saddle]

yes it is a 1:1 replacement

[young parrot]

But other than that, it seems it's just pygame, so it shouldn't affect my code.

[vagrant saddle]

only if you are using physcal keyboard mapping, but that is kinda weird in both and advanced usage

[young parrot]

I haven't gotten to user input yet.

[vagrant saddle]

pygbag handle both ways anyway

[young parrot]

Oh so. Pygbag uses asyncio, but I can still control the event loop?

[vagrant saddle]

yes it is stock stdlib asyncio, only exception is some futures that involve threading would not work

but unlikely to happen in a game

[young parrot]

Like run_in_executor calls don't work?

[vagrant saddle]

indeed

[young parrot]

Can I use web workers instead?

[vagrant saddle]

i prefer subinterpreters for games

but yeah concept is same as webworkers

[young parrot]

I mean whatever pygbag lets me use.

[vagrant saddle]

you can do what you want in pygbag you have access to everything, unlike pyodide/pyscript

you can hack your way when you need it

[young parrot]

So I've been reading the pygbag docs. So I can install it like any python package, but I don't need to import it or use any of its features. I just run it, and then it just packages my game along with the runtime?

That's a lot less work than setting up pyscript, lol.

[bold hill]

Am I doing this right?

class player:
    #===[player]===#
    
    #player = pygame.Rect(200,200,200)
    
    player_speed = 1
    
    health = 100
    
    stamina = 100
    
    mana = 100
    
    inventory = {}
    
    
    #===[weapons_use]===#
    can_use_bows = True
    
    can_use_swords = True
    
    can_use_magic = True
    #===================#
    
    #===[effects]===#
    buffs = {}
    
    debuffs ={}
    #===============#
    
    
    
    
    #=============#
    ```

My apologies

[strange zinc]

no need for a lot of comments

if it gets too complicated create seperate classes and use that

[bold hill]

But am I doing this appropriately sorry

[bold hill]

I use those comments to separate it into chunks so I know I have to make too many classes because I still want to make it easy on myself because I'm not very proficient with classes maybe dictionaries but that's stretch my apologies

[strange zinc]

you should get comfortable with classes

[bold hill]

But this correct?

[young parrot]

I think what Notenlish is trying to say is that simply saying yes or no isn't constructive.

The first question I'll ask is, does your game have multiple players?

Second, is a player the only thing that can use weapons or have buffs and debuffs?

Or have health?

Are players the only thing with a speed value?

Because if there are multiples of a thing that can have these attributes.

Then no, this class is only going to make things more complicated for you.

Or conversely, if you only ever have one player, you need to think if you need a whole class for it (you might, but you still have to think what attributes a player might share with other things).

It's like, imagine a car. It might be red, or green. It might be a two seater or a five seater. It might be a mitsubishi or a subaru. But none of these things stop it from being a car.

[bold hill]

Well there's going to be monsters that share the health and other attributes but different I also plan on playing portals so that wouldn't be in a class in itself to teleport the player

[young parrot]

I'm not sure how to explain this to you but you should get some practice with what classes actually do.

[bold hill]

I read everything and my coding book on classes and follow the examples I don't see what's wrong sorry

[young parrot]

Did you practice with it?

It's not so much a problem of "what is wrong".

I just do not get the vibe from this class that you have a lot of experience with using classes.

For starters, I'm seeing a lot of class variables, some of which are mutable, and not a single method.

Also, I cannot easily infer how you are using the dictionaries.

Is it like, using the item as the key and the amount as the value?

So if you do player3.inventory['potion'] = 3

Now all players will have 3 potions.

Because you defined the inventory at the class level rather than the instance level.

And if you then do player2.inventory['potion'] -= 1

Now all players will have one less potion.

Even the ones that are immutable just don't look like they should be class variables, they should be instance variables.

Why is player_speed named player_speed and not just speed?

Also, if the player is represented by a Rect, why not just inherit Rect?

[young parrot]

class Actor(Rect): #capitalize a class
  def __init__(self, rect, speed=1, health=100, stamina=100, mana=100):
    super().__init__(rect)
    
    self.speed = speed
    self.health = health
    self.stamina = stamina
    self.mana = mana

    self.buffs = {}
    self.debuffs = {}

class Player(Actor): #an actor with properties specific to a player
  def __init__(self, *args, weapon_usage=None)
    super().__init__(*args, **kwargs)

    self.inventory = {}
    
    self.weapon_usage = weapon_usage or {'bows', 'swords', 'magic'}

player1 = Player(weapon_usage = {'bows', 'magic'})
player2 = Player(weapon_usage = {'swords'})
#etc...

This more or less the intent of the class you wrote, but put the way we normally would do it.

[noble socket]

are there any level format for tile-based platformer
that supports python
and has a gui editor

[young parrot]

I... am not sure.

Godot has a bunch of plugins.

For making platformers.

[noble socket]

its for pygame tho

[young parrot]

And there's also one for doing python.

If it's pygame then uh.

Well maybe there is one I really don't know.

[young parrot]

My own question: Are pygame surfaces or their underlying buffers picklable?

[pine smelt]

Tiled?

[pine smelt]

pygame surfaces themselves arent, idk about underlying buffers

[noble socket]

yeah
based on tiles
idk if that matter

[pine smelt]

tho ive heard u should avoid pickling at all times

[pine smelt]

no i mean

theres a software called "Tiled"

it exports the tilemaps as .tmx files, which u can load with python into pygame

[noble socket]

what package do i have to install to read tmx

[pine smelt]

i think tiled itself has its own ill have a quick look

pytmx

https://pytmx.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html

[noble socket]

ok thx

[young parrot]

What you should avoid is unpickling data you don't know the origin of.

[pine smelt]

oh ok

[vagrant saddle]

also it may not be cross platform/cross version , this can be annoying when updating a game

[young parrot]

This happens with serialization in general.

[bold hill]

Thank you I'm sorry

[young parrot]

Do not apologize for wanting to learn things.

[bold hill]

I am was just trying to figure out how I can put everything in one self-contained area that's why I do not weird comment ing just in case my code goes too far on a specific spot or if I need to put in a specific for you definitions I can write deaths because I don't really get much sleep and I want to get my projects done I just have a hard time with learning certain things that I haven't already learned I do understand pie game more than numpy sorry

For playing game is there a way of adding achievements sorry

[bold hill]

Truly I am

[young parrot]

Please do not be.

[young parrot]

If people not knowing things was a problem, humanity wouldn't be able to exist.

Also, I respond to you because I want to help you, so being apologized to for doing something I want to do feels like a mismatch.

[bold hill]

Is there a way of making achievements?

[young parrot]

You can make anything you want.

If you mean steam specifically, there is an API for that.

[bold hill]

In game acevments

[young parrot]

Once again, you can make anything you want.

[blazing rivet]

hi

class Cloud:
    def __init__(self, game: Game, pos: List[int]) -> None:
        self.image = random.choice(
            (load_image("clouds/cloud_1.png"), load_image("clouds/cloud_2.png"))
        )
        self.pos = list(pos)

        self.game = game
        print(self.pos,"is the initial")
    
    def make_move(self) -> None:
        self.pos[0] += 0000.5
        if self.pos[0] > self.game.screen_width:
            self.pos[0] =  0
            print("current position is ",self.pos[0])

    def draw(self,surface: Surface,offset: List[int]) -> None:
        surface.blit(self.image,(self.pos[0] - offset[0], self.pos[1] - offset[1]))


def generate_clouds(number: int,game: Game,max_width,max_height) -> List[Cloud]:
    clouds = []
    for _ in range(number):
        pos_x = random.randint(0,max_width - 1)
        
        pos_y = random.randint(0 ,max_height - 1)
        cloud = Cloud(game= game,pos=[pos_x,pos_y])
        clouds.append(cloud)

    return clouds

i am trying to make clouds for my platformer game
i was following Dafluffy on yt but thought i can continue from my own after a point in the video
now i have added like the clouds but the clouds gets moved to the center that is above the player
when it hit

            self.pos[0] =  0
            print("current position is ",self.pos[0])```
is this because i did pygame.transform surface as told in the video

[drifting yew]

the clouds etc shouldn't really have the game as their attribute

[pine smelt]

I kinda disagree, I find having a reference to the game at all times very helpful so I can access whatever I need from anywhere

[pine smelt]

however I usually use that to avoid passing arguments in too, like in this person's draw method, I would just have self.game.screen rather than passing in the surface

[uneven dove]

yo

can one of yall help me

?

i posted the issue in help

if anyone wants to check this out

[limber veldt]

I sometimes pass the entire main object to things, usually makes more sense than passing multiple other objects from main

My chess has just one or two small remaining issues. Also, I think the code is good but main is too long at ~1800 lines, every method is necessary but I don't like it that long

I could do some refactoring to the ui, since it is now pretty well set in stone and not changing drastically

Like I have 150 lines just instancing buttons (with vertical args one per line)

[limber veldt]

How bout a cf board

Like this one

[obtuse spoke]

Hi

[limber veldt]

Hi

[obtuse spoke]

new here

🙂

[dawn quiver]

hi

My friends at my school want to make a game

what happened

[limber veldt]

Arrows too! Nice, so one can look more closely at lines and things, or anything you want a line for, they disappear on the next moved piece

[limber veldt]

Couple of tweaks and we get colors

Right mouse down sets the from square, right mouse up sets the to square if there is a from square

And creating a new arrow in place of an existing, deletes them both, so they can toggle if necessary or just disappear on the next move

[limber veldt]

Now can highlight squares in four colors and draw arrows in eight

The board has five layers now, the base and four overlays

[modern flint]

Woah. The arrows and the highlights look nice!

[limber veldt]

Current move spots, those shown when a player picks up piece, showing safe squares. Last move spots, the from and to spots of the last move, hint spots, those shown when clicking the 'Show Hint' button, and the highlight spots

[limber veldt]

Thanks, yeah kinda pointless but streamers appreciate the functionality over at chess.com, so might as well replicate it

[pine smelt]

what do the different colours mean

for the arrows i mean

[limber veldt]

Nothing, just variety

[limber veldt]

No reason to have multi colors, really, but since it's easy enough, why not

I made a little sprite to show the currently selected color, using num row keys 1-8 pops it up then it alpha fades to nothing then dies, just to give an indication that a color was selected and which one

Here it is for pressing 4, orange

Pops up and fades out quickly

Here I run it through all eight colors

And just left click to clear them all

In playing the game, I never use it, or haven't really had the need to use it, really only useful for commenting or describing some position

But chess.com has it so why not and it was pretty easy to code but still good practicing

It's kinda messy though, rotating images in pygame.display does strange things to rects that I haven't worked out beyond just making the adjustments depending on direction of the arrow/vector

[modern flint]

I feel like it fades out too fast 🤔

[limber veldt]

Yeah, I agree

I mainly went for having it out of the way, haven't really tweaked the behavior yet

I mean out of the way quickly

[modern flint]

I see I see

[limber veldt]

Like give it a second or so before it even starts fading

[modern flint]

Yeah that'd be a better user experience I think

[limber veldt]

I have the highlights identical to chess.com, just rmb to highlight in orange, do while holding shift for red, while holding ctrl for green, while holding alt for blue, and that's also how they do they arrows, just holding those keys and having only four colors to choose from (plenty, even more than enough really)

So the little sprite to show that many and having that many might not be permanent

I've made and scratched a few dozen sprites along this chess game path so far

Just looking back at the changes, amazing, it's not even the same thing any more as when I started, like vastly different

[pine smelt]

maybe put it on a really stretched or modified sin curve and physically move it on / off screen

[limber veldt]

I like the off screen ideas, keeps the ui clean

With a 1second delay before fading

class ArrowColorSprite(pygame.sprite.Sprite):
    def __init__(self, image, group):
        super().__init__(group)
        self.image = image
        self.rect = self.image.get_rect(topleft = (WIDTH-180, 5))
        self.speed = 100
        self.alpha = 150
        self.image.set_alpha(self.alpha)
        self.delay = 1.0
        self.timer = 0

    def update(self, dt):
        self.timer += dt
        if self.timer >= self.delay:
            self.alpha -= self.speed * dt
            if self.alpha > 0:
                self.image.set_alpha(self.alpha)
            else:
                self.kill()```

So I can control the speed of the fade too

[uncut dove]

the beginnings of a doom style 3d renderer

[candid blaze]

Does anyone wanna help with my project, Terra-Tactica? It is a top-down strategy game that is entirely in Python.

Our in house OpenGL graphics engine, is also in python.

[strange zinc]

Yeah the new images get bigger when you rotate them

You need to account for the new size and use a drawing function with origins to handle that

You probably already did that though

[limber veldt]

I'm just fudging the rect tops an lefts per vector directions, it works ok but it's not perfect

[brisk roost]

hey I am making a game can someone critique it ? https://saintelgrandosmokio.itch.io/puzzlegame

[cerulean nimbus]

speed is to high to time this decently

[vagrant saddle]

critics ? well got one :p not Python !

[static pine]

Is this your game?

[noble moon]

help

idk why i couldnt run pygame

[pine smelt]

do u have a file called pygame

in the same directory

[slow copper]

Doesn't seem like it

[slow copper]

Have you pip installed pygame

Looks like gpt code copy pasted expecting to work

Which should if they installed pygame

[cerulean nimbus]

no it was of the person above

[static pine]

Oh

[split flame]

Can anyone help me on this project i got

[white helm]

Yes sure

But I’m new

[green ether]

ChatGPT code

Lmao

[prisma pumice]

Yeah lets see it

[pine smelt]

but if they havent installed it, it'd be a module error

[weak mantle]

Does anyone know a good level editor of pygame ???

[vagrant saddle]

if making a side scroller , Tiled can do the job eg https://pmp-p.ddns.net/pygbag/tiles/tiled.test/build/web/#sf2/map.tmx

[weak mantle]

I'm trying to make isometric view point, will it work??

[vagrant saddle]

look at pytmx documentation and make some tests

[weak mantle]

Thanks :)

[vagrant saddle]

there are a few isometric tileset in tiled samples, but iirc i never tested them

let us know

[limber veldt]

Think I'll work through using vectors for all points of my arrows. Get vector from to_spot to from_spot. move it to to spot. copy and normalize two of them, rotate one of the copies 30 degrees and the other -30 degress and place their tails at the to_spot. Giving three points to draw the arrow head precicely at the center of the to_spot and do the same for the tail of the arrow for the line width

[limber veldt]

Well, here the vectors, nvm the green arrow, but the red lines forming the arrow are all vectors relative to the target spot center

Connect the dots of the red lines and it's a proper arrow shape just not filled in yet

pygame.draw.polygon() on a large surface would do it

All worked out, I think this method can keep the arrows perfectly aligned to the target spot center no matter their angles

Cause I'm no longer rotating a surface and placing its rect

Another way might be tryna rotate the surface and instead of placing its rect left and top, place its center at the vector midpoint

Oh that second idea actually works really good

Good enough to call that done

And my Arrow class ```py
class Arrow(pygame.sprite.Sprite):
def init(self, color, from_spot, to_spot, group):
super().init(group)
arrow = pygame.Surface((29, 29), pygame.SRCALPHA, 32)
pygame.draw.polygon(arrow, color, [(10, 0), (27, 14), (10, 28)], 0)

    vec = Vector2(to_spot.rect.center) - Vector2(from_spot.rect.center)

    image = pygame.Surface((vec.length(), 29), pygame.SRCALPHA, 32)
    image.blit(arrow, (vec.length()-28, 0))
    pygame.draw.rect(image, color, (0, 8, vec.length()-16, 12))
    
    angle = vec.angle_to(Vector2(1, 0))
    self.image = pygame.transform.rotate(image.copy(), angle)

    new_vec = vec / 2
    new_vec += from_spot.rect.center
    
    self.rect = self.image.get_rect(center = new_vec)```

[limber veldt]

See how I solved that?

That's working fine

[strange zinc]

run these commands one at a time, it should fix it
pip uninstall pygame
pip uninstall pygame-ce
pip install pygame-ce --force

[limber veldt]

Hmm, pygame.transform.rotozoom() gives a better rotated image

[strange zinc]

rotozoom is for non pixelart

scale is for pixelart

[limber veldt]

Zoomed way in with rotate()

And with rotozoom()

Cleaner edges with the latter

I use external tools to scale images...most of the time. Like if it's anythng but a placeholder, I'll just scale it in gimp and load that instead of loading and scaling in pygame, though pygame scales just fine with no interpolation

Looks like rotozoom() is using aa on the edges, definitely wouldn't want that to scale pixels

[pine plinth]

there is a smoothscale function is you need aa

[limber veldt]

I'll look it up

Ok so it's scaling with interpolation (averaging pixels)

[strange zinc]

@limber veldt theres also a draw.aapolygon feature thats planned to be added to pygame-ce btw, you might want to use that when it comes

[limber veldt]

Absolutely will be checking it out

[strange zinc]

idk if its yet approved but the pr is there

[limber veldt]

I'm usually on the latest ce

I've been kind of keeping an eye on the pygame.Window development too, already played with it some and it was great

Rotating in that is essentially free, just tell the renderer the image is rotated

[strange zinc]

yep

if youre feeling even fancier try using opengl

shaders are cool

[limber veldt]

On my list of things to learn, even basics, maybe using moderngl or so

I've been pygame'ing for a few years now, and I'm still always learning new stuff or new ways to do the same stuff

[strange zinc]

me too
I have a list of pygame snippets/notes that I update whenever I see something useful

[split flame]

Can anyone join a call with me and i want to present my code for practice

[limber veldt]

Slight redesign for arrows, wider, offset, shorter than spot center to center

[gaunt gyro]

How efficient are cross-script variables

Help

[limber veldt]

Weird, but kinda cool looking, just playing around with gimp

[modern flint]

Woah, that is cool

[pine smelt]

is that animated

[limber veldt]

Nah, just a still image

[teal cargo]

Reminds me of Fade from Valorant.

[limber veldt]

I need to work changing some spot images into my theme setter. So far, I have two sets of those for safe squares and from square, one light colored, the other dark. For boards like the one I shared above, I think more themed colors for those things is kinda necessary

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/IS7Q

For that board, blue versions of these would be good

Themes are just four images so far, maybe each should also have its custom spots in the same folder/dict

[limber veldt]

I have to google that for reference...

Oh one of the characters having a blue theme, very cool

[limber veldt]

And there's the functionality with some placeholder spots, now making more spot colors

[limber veldt]

Also going to option-ize the rank/file labels, meaning they have to come out of the board images and be their own sprite(s) with a toggle in the settings menu

[dawn quiver]

hi

So this basically help to make a chess game

[uncut dove]

why does this happen when clipping

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/GF7A

[pine smelt]

the channel in general? no, sst just sends his progress and a devlog of sort here

[pine smelt]

probably something with ur projection code unable to handle cases where the projected point is "behind" the camera location

[uncut dove]

yeah but i added clipping

tho the geometry is breaking my brain

[limber veldt]

Yeah, all the damn time. It's useful for me to rubberduck sometimes

Like that idea last night of aligning the arrows to the midpoint of the vector, that came to me while I was typing the other idea

[limber veldt]

And implemented label toggling

Took a while getting all new images and taking them off the boards

And coloring them accordingly

[modern flint]

Nice!

[bold hill]

May I ask a question on building a house cell for a game?

[pine smelt]

ask away

[bold hill]

How can I make a crafting system and the spawning system the pentaton variables

Because I want to make spawners that you can change the difficulty on easy medium and hard but to activate the meaning of key which is single use so you have to get lucky and I've been finding it including foraging etc

[opaque reef]

hey guys, im struggling with random nums, I want my code to generate a different num to dictate my enemy "AI"'s damage but it only generates a random num once and doesnt do it again, im using random.randrange. i know one way to do it is to get write a function but im using classes so idk how to impliment it, heres my code:

AdamSmasher = AdamSmasherAI(name="Adam Smasher", health = 500, Damage=random.randrange(15, 30))

this is a global variable btw

[hollow apex]

ik this isint game development but i just wanna share this

it puts mods into mod folder ig

[hollow apex]

generate a new random damage value each time the enemy attacks

maybe solve problem

[limber veldt]

New arrows for 2squares x 1square vectors

Again replicating chess.com arrows

Those arrows are using an image, not drawing it just rotating and flipping accordingly

[teal cargo]

hmm taking a lot of inspiration from chess.com huh

You can also look at lichess for some good ideas

[limber veldt]

Yes, their way works great and is quite popular, it was inevitable

[teal cargo]

Pretty sure lichess arrows snap to grid somehow... but chess.com's method is probably easier

[limber veldt]

I'll check it out, thanks

Oh that is neat, I like the previewing

But it has bugs or glitches

Oh wait, no, it only allows arrows on legal moves

So like 2x1 is fine, 3x1 or others are illegal and won't arrow

[teal cargo]

yea

helps because you don't want to make a random arrow that's illegal

and the grid feels nice too

[limber veldt]

Making the conditions for disallowing illegal arrows is straightforward, just scrutinize the vector, if x and y are equal or one of them is 0, it's allowed

And make one exception for 2x1s

If abs(x) and abs(y) that is

[limber veldt]

Can adjust hue too (with sat and val staying at 255)

Just drawing a rect under the board and blending the board.blit

Just experimenting, saw the functionality at lichess and wondered how I could implement. I'm not sure my implementation is correct but it is at least working

[limber veldt]

And a little hue slider

Not permanently there, placeholding

Just to see if I could, not sure I should use it, I have a selection of colors already

So...do I make a color wheel or two more sliders (one for saturation and one for value or luminosity) or skip it, not sure it's very useful functionality

[pine smelt]

color wheel feels more intuitive foe the average user I think

or the grid system with a single hue slider like Ms paint uses

[uncut dove]

fixed it, here are 2 progress recordings

[cursive veldt]

Ooh cool

[uncut dove]

its not even remotely done, but i got some of the 3d geometry stuff down

gonna fix up texture mapping soon™️

mostly did it to check the performance

[marble jewel]

Isometria Devlog 49 - New Graphics, Casey The Doctor, Biome Keys, Sleeping, and Items! https://youtu.be/0e29EdJs9Tc

[dawn quiver]

I made a dumb little timewaster:
https://github.com/lemonsqueezycreative/bombsquad

[uncut dove]

upcoming map editor

[bold hill]

May I ask a question

Has anyone ever implemented a portal

[pine smelt]

as in ones like from the game portal?

[bold hill]

Yes

[limber veldt]

Color wheel progress

The wheel itself is kinda working

Using pygame.smoothscale() to make the gradients

Make a 2,1px image, blit one side with start color, other side with end color then smoothscale it to the desired size, in my case, from 2,1 to 109, 1 and repeat 109 times slightly decreasing the start value each time while moving down the image

The BLEND_MULT that new image with a white triangle, viola, gradient triangle

[bold hill]

I'm actually how do I make interior cells so I can run simulations using pygame

[teal cargo]

!rule ad

[frank field]

Rules

6. Do not post unapproved advertising.

[teal cargo]

That's not on topic to this server and is also against the rules. Kindly remove the message please.

[teal cargo]

Nice

[limber veldt]

Yeah, now I gotta brush up on my scalar projection code, I need one

I need the distance at a right angle from the direction that triangle is facing

[teal cargo]

Some feedback for the board:

• the contrast between the black pieces and the board isn't really quite strong enough imho
• I think the design is great, and could probably be better if it stood out a bit more
• I noticed the rank numbers are placed on the right, which is a bit weird for me as usually it's on the left

[limber veldt]

I agree on that first and second point and for the third, yeah, I realized how easily I can put them anywhere now that they're their own sprites

I tried darkening the black pieces some, but then they were too dark for the dark squares of the blue lava board

On the lighter squares, the darker black was fine but on the dark squares, too dark, so the board needs more contrast

[teal cargo]

I think you'll have to find a middle ground for the two boards... or not, because it's still visible and it does work.

[limber veldt]

Yeah, just a matter of finding the right range between the two colors

[bold hill]

Is it possible to make a house cell using pygame

[limber veldt]

Everything is possible, you know that

[limber veldt]

Color wheel complete

[covert rose]

hi guys , im looking for game developer team for a free open source 3d project in python.
(im developer of this engine and i need some external help.)
https://github.com/hamedsheygh/supePY/releases

i even create a simple game with my game engine (kinda doom / minecrfat style)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhjDj52aDCI

[vagrant saddle]

why not just Panda3D ?

ursina is less portable

[covert rose]

i just want to focus on windows for now

i will try panda later

plus panda is harder to code

[vagrant saddle]

imho it is harder to port urisna than coding panda

[covert rose]

i dont want to port or add other platform supports to it.

all i want is some help to add much quality as possible.

[vagrant saddle]

but you want a team ?

[covert rose]

you mean port the source code?

[vagrant saddle]

you should have precised windows only then

[covert rose]

yeah i know

[vagrant saddle]

i think if you don't target web and mobile for a game engine you won't get much traction

[covert rose]

you are true but this what it is.

plus you can convert the code later to panda because i open source most of stable versions, (i mean the guys who madly wants other platforms support.)

[vagrant saddle]

ho now you want a team for a mostly open source game engine

[covert rose]

lol i said at first.

[vagrant saddle]

no you said "free open source" not "most of stable versions open sourced"

[covert rose]

its because of not letting some random kids making toxic things.i will make it fully open source once the job is fully done.

[vagrant saddle]

you should then put a license in that kind https://github.com/PythonTryHard/winamp/blob/1e76df7e599ec5b1362869a48122af7a36548e64/LICENSE.md and maybe avoid using "free open source" as an intro thank you

[covert rose]

it had so many restrictions than i thought but thanks!😁 ⚡

[vagrant saddle]

btw for anyone reading this it is perfectly ok to make closed source engine with Panda3D and Ursina because both are MIT licensed

[covert rose]

one last question

so you mean its not ok to create open source 3d game engine with ursina or panda?

[vagrant saddle]

i said the opposite

[covert rose]

👍🏻

i get it

[vagrant saddle]

you can do whatever, but i don't think that covers for announcing you here as "free open source" for grabbing help

[covert rose]

and at first it was really open source and it will be again open source very soon when i done

i just dont add 20 lines of code and without that you have less features , its not that much.

https://tenor.com/view/animals-bear-big-big-bear-big-boy-gif-25906630

[covert rose]

i dont want to use panda 3d again!😂 🤣

[muted valley]

Finally figured out a dungeon generation algorithm

[covert rose]

nice

[spice tartan]

@minor cloak hi, im going to elaborate about my game.
first upmost, the game are heavily inspired from a game named Exp Minima, and it's creator @steel cypress(frazerbw) props to him.
now, the game are that common text rpg game in this github, we are planning on remaking it on Godot, as it's very light and easy to use(they say). the game are kind of "please help me! i will give you reward if you do!" kind of thing, and mostly focus on getting stronger. however we haven't even officially made it 'Complete' so it subject to change. the rest are pretty simple fighting game, it's a quick gameplay for now we're planning

[minor cloak]

oh ok cool

[spice tartan]

yeah it's kind of boring, we'd like a simple game before thinking of making a bigger game

the biggest problem for now is the fight mechanic optimization

[minor cloak]

Can you explain more on that?

[spice tartan]

well uh

the monsters damage are scaled based on the monster's HP

monster hp // 3

then there's fluctuations dmg where it's either -2 or add 2 damages

it'll be very unoptimized if the player has reached high levels

high player HP, low monster DMG

maybe i should scaled it on player HP instead?

[minor cloak]

How do you calculate for damages?

[spice tartan]

        # attack
        monster_dmg = current_monster.dmg
        if damage < 0: # checks if -1 (defending)
            monster_dmg // 3
        fluc_dmg = monster_dmg + random.randint(-4, 2)
        player.hp -= fluc_dmg
        print(f"{name} dealt {fluc_dmg} dmg!")
        time.sleep(1)

[minor cloak]

I mean like, you could have a special monster that has extremely low HP like 10, but very high defense. So much so that no matter how OP damage the player can get, it will always inflict exactly 1 damage to the monster. But all the player has to do is hit the monster exactly 10 times and its K.O.

[spice tartan]

oh wait i just noticed my friend's comment on <0:

[minor cloak]

yeah and monster_dmg // 3?

[minor cloak]

Correct me if I'm wrong, this is not GDScript, right?

[spice tartan]

i have absolute no idea about that, even though i edit that

originally, it was monster_dmg = current_monster.dmg // 3

however because of print issue i change it to monster_dmg // 3

print issue.... it's really an overlooked mistake

[pine plinth]

if it looks like python - it is python

[spice tartan]

no

[pine plinth]

gdscript is noticeably different from python

[spice tartan]

this is still pure python

[spice tartan]

imo it's like a C

[spice tartan]

everything i will talk from now on is purely python, for the godot game it will be later after I've done optimizing it further

[spice tartan]

just to avoid misunderstanding

[minor cloak]

oh ok so you've not decided to continue on to Godot then?

[spice tartan]

still learning on tilesets and sprites

it'll probably take another 3 months

we're working on this game in github probably uhh

2-3 month ish

[minor cloak]

Is it on Github? Share the link?

[spice tartan]

it's on my profile

[minor cloak]

lol at the commit messages

ah... you're putting all of your various projects all in one repo...

[spice tartan]

don't mind me.... i don't know what to type there

[spice tartan]

it's just one project

the others are my very old test message

i meant code

[minor cloak]

its not...

You have Calculator.py, you have crypted.py, etc

Outside of the Game folder

[spice tartan]

yes, crypted ks just a test

[minor cloak]

But still in one repo

[spice tartan]

else is my old code

i will get rid of them eventually for cleaning

[minor cloak]

its a mess.

[spice tartan]

but that repo is specifically for sharing my codes and all

I'm quite proud at my introduction code when i was freshly new

xD

[minor cloak]

You should really look into just having one exact repo for just this game project. You can leave this current repo as is but make another just for the game

[spice tartan]

don't worry I'll change the file to a different repo

[spice tartan]

after the game officially completed :D

[minor cloak]

okie dokie

[spice tartan]

because copy paste all the files are painful ngl

unless i can copy whole folder...

wait.

i can do that

SMH

😭

[minor cloak]

lmao

[spice tartan]

god school drains me out i need sleep

yeah I'll make another repo tomorrow

[minor cloak]

thats a good start at least

[spice tartan]

what do people put in commit message btw

i use the github desktop and it always requires me to type something, it's painful to do

[minor cloak]

Reasons or what changed usually

[spice tartan]

cuz idk what to put in

i see

1 is a very reasonable commit message

[minor cloak]

But what does it mean?

[spice tartan]

it doesn't

❤️

[minor cloak]

exactly

So if something broke, that commit might be at fault

git blame

[spice tartan]

aah

well i mean there's only two contributors in the code for now

me and my friend

it's not that big

[minor cloak]

commit 1: Changed player defense
commit 2: Nerfed enemy attacks
commit 3: revert commit 1
commit 4: optimize player damage
commit 5: revert commit 2
etc

[spice tartan]

we always communicate each other out to tell what's changed what's removed what's improved

[minor cloak]

Do you practice git workflow? Like make feature branches and create pull requests?

[spice tartan]

my git desktop commit every commits tho

[spice tartan]

what's that-

i mean someone did try to pull request

[minor cloak]

Yeah you should really learn how to use git properly, otherwise its just Dropbox or some other cloud syncing drive. https://learngitbranching.js.org/

[spice tartan]

noted

I'll share that to my friend

thanks btw :3

[limber veldt]

Anyone want my hsv color picker? https://paste.pythondiscord.com/NY4Q

I halved its size from last time

Now only 100x100px + guages

The only specific thing in it in coloring the underlay image that I use under my board, but one can use its get_rgb() method to get its current color

[covert rose]

cool

---

well im still looking for game developer team for a free open source 3d project in python.

[limber veldt]

Thanks and good luck with your 3d project

[covert rose]

❤️‍🔥

[limber veldt]

Put in a sliding panel, keep it as an easteregg with no button and only a hotspot? Or draw a button...hmmm

[limber veldt]

Also a help panel, I'm not yet sure what else I'll put in it but there it is

[pine smelt]

oo looks good the texture mapping is much better

does look like theres some weird stretching happening though

[limber veldt]

Oh hell yeah, much smoother

I just wrote a save/load system that auto-loads your theme, board, and color settings

I could use a couple more buttons inside panels. One in the color wheel panel for saving the rgb and another in the settings panel for saving board and frame choice

[limber veldt]

Even better, put the wheel in the settings panel and save all the settings from there

[limber veldt]

And now saves all those settings when clicking that Save settings button and auto loads them on startup

[spice tartan]

might consider those colorblind people

i can barely see the pieces

I'm not colorblind, just deficiency

[limber veldt]

Yeah, that board has issues at dark hues

[spice tartan]

lmao

try to make border around the pieces

[limber veldt]

The black pieces are either too light or too dark

[spice tartan]

make black border for white pieces, and white border for black pieces

that should helps a lot

[spice tartan]

or at least something that's not too noticable but still makes the pieces visible

[limber veldt]

I also have these pieces

[spice tartan]

looks ugly, but works

[limber veldt]

Which do look much nicer on that board

[spice tartan]

i would go for that

just put some little touch on the details to make it more pretty

[limber veldt]

Thanks for the feedback

[spice tartan]

[spice tartan]

or, honestly make it like a basic chess, and make option for the custom theme

[limber veldt]

Yeah, that's what it all is, those I've been showing are all options

[spice tartan]

i see

[limber veldt]

I haev like 15 boards

And a few frame sets

[spice tartan]

it looks fun, it's not like GPT who used 4th dimension ability right?

[limber veldt]

Nah, I can beat it and I'm not great at chess

[spice tartan]

hmm i see

[limber veldt]

On the weaker bots that is

The hard bots, pretty sure nobody can beat

lol

[spice tartan]

try ask grandmaster chess to beat it

lol

[limber veldt]

It's Stockfish, though I don't have any bots at its highest skill level, it still plays really good at the high levels I do have

[spice tartan]

is your game online or executable file?

[limber veldt]

Python+pygame

[spice tartan]

how would you make it available for others?

[limber veldt]

Sharing source

[spice tartan]

pretty much executable file ig, not literal .exe

[limber veldt]

It's open source, or will be when I eventually upload it

It's cool cause it can play bot vs bot too

I'm thinking it's pretty much finished, just gotta package it up and upload to github to share

Clean up some files here and there, some code too

One would have to download and extract the stockfish binary, because I won't be distributing that

But there's nothing to that, just download the file from their page and extract it then point code at it, oh and also pip install stockfish

Like so in the code ```py

    self.stockfish = Stockfish(Path('stockfish', 'stockfish-windows-x86-64-vnni512.exe'))
    self.skill_level = 1 # default```

That's for the easy bot

I'm not sure if chess.com can play bot vs bot directly, it can if you keep switching player every time it's your turn

Mine can also do that

[limber veldt]

Wow cool, I found how to change color of a surface while preserving its alpha! All those Ls are green images

It's two lines

            self.image.fill((255, 255, 255, 0), special_flags=pygame.BLEND_RGBA_MAX)
            self.image.fill(color, special_flags=pygame.BLEND_RGBA_MIN)```

[ripe lily]

anyone for help

[limber veldt]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/KXFQ All arrows now using an image

I mean a loaded image, instead of creating them on the fly, just crop from an image

[manic totem]

why my pygame.display.update() doesnt work

i put it inside a while loop