game-development

[raven kernel]

but you can track all the events within a single event loop and pass that information on separately

or just pass the events and iterate over them each time

[pine smelt]

Idk maybe I'm just stubborn but I prefer being able to just access it on command rather than passing it through various different update methods

Especially if they go to other nested functions

[raven kernel]

me too

[pine smelt]

That gets messy with a lot of methods

[raven kernel]

thats why i use a module to store all my events and stuff

[pine smelt]

Oh fair enuf

Are they technically globals then

[raven kernel]

and then i access em like this

[pine smelt]

Ah OK ye

[raven kernel]

indeed, they're part of a global mutable state

keeps every single update method clean

[pine smelt]

Got it makes sense

Ye

[stuck spade]

Bro drop the theme

[raven kernel]

Catppuccin Mocha - https://github.com/catppuccin/vscode

[versed aurora]

im not sure if anything will come of it but here's a little video recorded of what i have rn
the bars on the left and right are bound to left and right trigger and the circles are bound to the joysticks
one problem i can immediately forsee is that idk a way to really use the bars except with a joystick since there arent really "analog" inputs on a keyboard

oh and maybe i can change the color of the bar depending on its state

might try making something like a top down shooter with this code tbh

changing the colors works, i did a simple test and yeah

[limber veldt]

That's cool, mapping the sticks to the play area, one could use them for targeting or something

[versed aurora]

its super disorienting so i will probably not keep both that way

when you have them crossed so to speak its confusing

[grave inlet]

Python on android is pre epic

[versed aurora]

i actually like how this looks

how i do it is when i update the bar's state, if it's above a threshold i increment a value called time_held, and once it's above a certain amount i make it start shaking and flashing

[limber veldt]

So I made fireballs

[pine smelt]

Cool r u going to use that in ur game

[pine smelt]

How did u handle that brightness thing, just blit a surface with an alpha value?

It looks rly cool

[limber veldt]

No, just a play around

[pine smelt]

Ah ok

[limber veldt]

I experimented with both those angle finding ideas I shared recently

These two lines do pretty much the same thing ```py

    angle = self.direction.angle_to(Vector2(0, -1))
    atanangle = math.degrees(math.atan2(direction.x, direction.y) - math.atan2(0, -1))```

[limber veldt]

Brightness? I didn't do anything with that, but here's the code: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/DTBA and here are the images

[limber veldt]

That's my basic sprite code structure, an init method, update and a couple of helper methods

I sometimes use a state machine for sprites with behaviors

Still one of my biggest struggles, coding NPC behaviors

And I'm really appreciating frect, no more casting to floats since frect can use them directly

[pine smelt]

i think i have a similar thing, just that i contain my animation stuff in its own class

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/FICQ

only downside i can't really handle different timings between frames in an animation but i haven't really had an issue with it yet

[limber veldt]

I like that you implented dt for your frame_index

[pine smelt]

ye it's usually smoother

[limber veldt]

For sure

[pine smelt]

and framerate independence is never a bad thing

[limber veldt]

Right on, I usually use it everywhere and test by setting different rates

This is a really basic implementation of my state machine, I wonder if you have one you might share? https://paste.pythondiscord.com/NF6A

I got the idea from a tutorial, and have seen other implementations, but I'm always looking for them anyway

[pine smelt]

sry no ive used an almost identical implementation

the only difference would be

when you define the states in

        self.states = {'left': self.left,
                        'right': self.right,
                        'down': self.down,
                        'up': self.up
                        }

i had an optional duration value and "next_target" value

like

self.states = {'left': {"func": self.left, "duration": None or a int or a float, "next_target": self.right}

[limber veldt]

That's good idea, even more flexabiity

[pine smelt]

ye

for npc movement especially in top-down rpgs, i prolly even tend to just make the npc move within a specific range and just pick a random location within it

directly a to b or some path-finding algorithm if there are objects in the way

and just having some sort of delay when it gets to that spot

[pine smelt]

for more complicated movements or in 2d platformers i stick with this ye

[limber veldt]

Yeah even some path following

Usually iterating waypoints

[pine smelt]

oh ye that works

it might become a bit repetitive if they're just moving in a circle but i guess u can shuffle the waypoints

[limber veldt]

I have so many little videos, really should sort them

I pretty much make a video for everything that works along the way, lol

[limber veldt]

Sometimes it's really interesting to go back and watch the early videos of projects, seeing how much has changed, usually improved

Making a simple circuit

That game started as just a logic sim but once I had that, I turned it into robot odyssey, the old game

A little more complicated circuit, a 4-bit counter

[pine smelt]

how did u code all the logic for that

i wouldnt even know how to get started

[pine smelt]

where do u store them, ive tried to do it but

sounds silly but i usually don't have enough storage locally on my laptop to keep them all for a long time

[limber veldt]

The videos, they're really short but I have a 1tb storage drive I just slide em into

[pine smelt]

ah ok fair enough

[limber veldt]

The game also has the chip burner, where you can burn circuits into chips. I made a wallhugger chip (wired inside a robot, the robot does just that, follows walls) This is the json save of that chip https://paste.pythondiscord.com/NOGQ

Parsing all that into and out of a dict, quite a task

And a dict that is just logic, burned chips behave just like the prototype they were burned from, but have no images, so all that logic had to be worked out too

[limber veldt]

All logic gates are subclassed from Device, this is the AND gate https://paste.pythondiscord.com/3TZA

And all Device's are subclassed from Item, where they get all their interaction behaviors

Mouse grabbing, wiring, things like this

And all Items are finally subclassed from pygame.sprite.Sprite

A lot of subclassing, my devices.py is still huge though, cause there are so many devices

This project was my first really deep dive into subclassing

There were others but nothing like the MROs here

Burning a chip

[limber veldt]

And one of the many puzzles you encounter while escaping Robotropolis, tough puzzle, easy solution (I shouldn't show it)

[limber veldt]

Just making one thing work at a time. I started with making a logic gate, not even sure what kind, and wiring it up with mouse and then circuit evaluation when the sim is started and running

A little Clear Code tutorial experience too

The toolbox having all the gates selectable, the way it pops up and closes and all that, Clear Code

[limber veldt]

Quite a lot of that, really, he's a good tutor

I started working out levels in Tiled but came across a few complications, part of why the game remains unfinished and unreleased

Along with those damn save/load games

I have all the levels in raw list already though, so Tiled is kind of extra at this point

It'll be open source eventually though

[limber veldt]

This is the room_display() and eval5() methods. room_display is on a timer ,it gets reactivated every time it runs. The duration of that timer is controlled by the slider in the game's menubar. eval5() does all the heavy lifting during evaluation https://paste.pythondiscord.com/VASQ

Both are working but maybe not final

Just to tie in what those methods in the AND gate are doing and where they're called, that pretty much explains the logic

[limber veldt]

I have many places to refactor though. Like using getattr() instead of my is_device() method, other ideas too

I could give all those gates the attributes to query quite easily

[limber veldt]

Yeah, it's a really wonderful game, I hope to release it some day

Just a hobbyist, I started with an intro to python course over at coursera about 10+ years ago

hbu?

Right on, stick with it. I suppose it's easier for me since I'm just a hobbyist, I can do whatever whenever

I still get high when something really hard works, like yes!

And that's why I keep doing it, not constantly, I have other hobbies too, especially in summer, but I always come back to it

[silver furnace]

Guys who likes to make a team for developing games

https://tenor.com/view/best-team-teamwork-best-team-ever-anchorman-ron-burgundy-gif-11877904

[versed aurora]

Changed the color palette

[pine smelt]

how?

ive heard of surfaces having palette methods but never dabbled in it

unless you used some sort of array changer

[pine smelt]

im assuming in pygame? also what sort of games

[silver furnace]

RPG

[pine smelt]

specifically?

top-down, platformer?

inspirations like old pokemon/zelda or the old metroidvania games?

specific art style??

gotta give more information man

[silver furnace]

I feel like 3D would be great but for a small team i think pixel art is better. Right?

[pine smelt]

pixel art is definitely better

[grave inlet]

yo

[pine smelt]

also have u used pygame before?

3d is practically impossible for a full complete game

[pine smelt]

ello

[grave inlet]

ive come to realised my typing method sucks

[pine smelt]

bruh wut y

[grave inlet]

im legit capped at 130 wpm

[pine smelt]

thats pretty good

[grave inlet]

i use index to press space

[pine smelt]

the avg is 70 i swr

oh

[grave inlet]

my index is like going light speed

[pine smelt]

how the hell are u getting 130 with that

[grave inlet]

my index has like 50% of the keys memorized

[pine smelt]

bruh

[grave inlet]

i get avarage 100

now im relearning

using thumb for space lmao

[pine smelt]

ye i only get 145 without thumbs

[pine smelt]

🙏

[grave inlet]

need to press ctrl + v faster if im ganna code

anyways i downloaded pydroid and now i can code while in school

[pine smelt]

nice

[grave inlet]

keeping the grind at school

[hollow gazelle]

TIL that PyGame got a serious fork

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYq9edSUaOw

[versed aurora]

If its an indexed image you can change its palette by giving it a list of colors

[pine smelt]

wdym by indexed image

[pine smelt]

its been like the biggest development since like 2.0 lol

[versed aurora]

so rgb images have the red, green, blue values at each pixel right

[pine smelt]

right

[versed aurora]

indexed instead has a color palette and each pixel instead has a number for what index in the palette it is

[pine smelt]

oh right ok

and if u just change one of the numbers or colours in the palette

it dynamically swaps them?

also what are the colours in the palette stored as

rgb or int or smthn?

[versed aurora]

they're stored as rgb(a) tuples

or lists, i guess

[pine smelt]

oh cool

ye

[versed aurora]

i think pygame also has a color class

the code is kinda jank but here's what i did

new_palette = [(0,0,0)]
for i in self.colors[1:]:
    new_color = i+color_func(c*BAR_COLOR_CHANGE_SPEED).floor()
    new_color = new_color.clamp(vec3(0),vec3(255))
    new_palette.append(new_color)
self.middle.set_palette(new_palette)

[pine smelt]

i swr the only thing it adds is a lerp function

[pine smelt]

is self.colors just

acc not sure

[versed aurora]

its an attribute of the bar

its jsut a list of the colors

[pine smelt]

that the bar could be?

[versed aurora]

yeah

[pine smelt]

right ok

[versed aurora]

the reason i do self.colors [1:] is that i use (0,0,0) as transparency and lightening and darkening that would screw it up

[pine smelt]

oh ok

[versed aurora]

for the bars i used [(138,41,49),(190,51,51),(248,109,85)] for the left bar and [(48,78,128),(0,125,188),(0,198,206)] for the right one

and in my initializer it adds 0,0,0 automatically

[pine smelt]

so just red and blue colours getting increasingly brighter

[versed aurora]

its a sine wave

color_func is just a temporary function i use that just has a sine wave vector functionally

also the vectors in that code are my own, i just use them for convenience, but pygame has its own vectors i think

[pine smelt]

can u send that please?

[versed aurora]

its dead simple

its using my own vectors so it wouldnt be super useful to you but i can just recreate it using lists

1 sec

[pine smelt]

nah its fine cant be that different

[versed aurora]

its just that my own vectors have stuff for automatically creating it from a single number

so like if i do vec3(1) it'll make vec3(1,1,1)

[pine smelt]

oh fine ye

[versed aurora]

its basically just this

import math
def color_func(t,mag=50):
    return [int(math.sin(t)*mag)]*3

i originally had it do offset sine waves to do a rainbow just to test, but that doesnt look very good when the bars already have color

for changing color there's some more intelligent ways to do it btw
for one you can change what color system you're in and then modify that

so for instance you can do a hueshift simply by converting to HSV, changing the hue a bit , then converting back

oh wait i forgot, mine floors the value

there

also real talk, is importing pygame as pg not normal? i always do that but whenever i see examples of code they always just import it as normal

[pine smelt]

nah its pretty normal

i think its just more readable for newbies

[versed aurora]

even if it wasnt i think i'd still do it

ngl i should use pygame more
ive mostly just done stuff from scratch in terminal but pyg has a lot of useful features

[pine smelt]

???

wait what wdym

as in ascii-based stuff?

or literal graphics in the terminal

[versed aurora]

yeah

[pine smelt]

cuz the latter is literal insanity how would u do that

oh ok

[versed aurora]

well with enough characters..

i did make a gif player in terminal

[pine smelt]

bruh

[versed aurora]

its actually not that complicated
it just processes each frame into characters, adds it to a list, then iterates through and plays each frame, and repeat

it does take a while to load longer gifs tho
and its bottlenecked by the actual speed of the terminal

it can go pretty fast in the right circumstances tho

[pine smelt]

how are u printing out pixels?

[versed aurora]

ansi codes

basically escape codes (like \n) but they let you control stuff of the terminal

[pine smelt]

i thought there was a set number of colours

[versed aurora]

depends

[pine smelt]

like the basic ones

oh

[versed aurora]

some terminals only support some color modes but all modern ones ive used support full 24 bit color

there's multiple color codes, but basically all ANSI codes use the character '\x1b'

[pine smelt]

oh ik what they are dont waste ur typing lol

Christian was working on a typewriter thing for a while wid em

[versed aurora]

lemme find the truecolor one

[pine smelt]

alr

[versed aurora]

its \x1b[MODE;2;R;G;Bm" where MODE is either 38 for foreground or 48 for background, and R,G,and B are integers 0-255

oh right i made a whole example script

from itertools import chain
fg_color_palette = list(chain(range(30,38),range(90,98))) 
bg_color_palette = list(chain(range(40,48),range(100,108)))

modes = {"fg":38,"bg":48} #for 8-bit / 24-bit color ANSI

reset = "\x1b[0m"

def ansi_16_color(n,mode="fg"): #palette index 0-15
    if mode == "fg":
        return f"\x1b[{fg_color_palette[n]}m"
    elif mode == "bg":
        return f"\x1b[{bg_color_palette[n]}m"

def ansi_216_color(r,g,b,mode="fg"): #RGB values 0-5
    packed_color = 16 + 36*r + 6*g + b
    return f"\x1b[{modes[mode]};5;{packed_color}m"

def ansi_grayscale_24_color(n,mode="fg"): #Grayscale value 0-23
    return f"\x1b[{modes[mode]};5;{232+n}m"
    
def ansi_truecolor(r,g,b,mode="fg"): #RGB values 0-255
    return f"\x1b[{modes[mode]};2;{r};{g};{b}m"

[pine smelt]

wuts the ansi_16_color thing

[versed aurora]

that's the simplest one

basically it uses a fixed color palette

discord actually supports it but it uses its own color palette, and only supports 8 out of 16

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ill post a screenshot for mobile users

[grave inlet]

learning time

[versed aurora]

btw the actual colors depend on the terminal but here's what it looks like by default in cmd, as well as the full 16 color version ( i split it into 4 quadrants to distinguish between the two sets of colors )

[pine smelt]

oh thats cool

and im assuming truecolor is just every rgb value

[versed aurora]

yeah

values 0-255

[pine smelt]

ye

[pine smelt]

is that tkinter?

[versed aurora]

if you're wondering why 216 color has that many colors, it's because the 16 color, 216 color, and 24 color grayscale are all technically part of a single 256-color mode

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code#Colors
wikipedia has a whole thing about it

also as one last thing about this, you need a specific terminal flag enabled for them to work (at least on windows, idk about other OSes) but some terminals already have them enabled
easiest way to do so is just to call os.system() because doing so incidentally enables that flag

[versed aurora]

i learned this completely by accident and just kept using it for a long time before actually checking the source code to confirm

if you want to be fancy, at least for windows you can call SetConsoleMode() using the low level api but it's honestly way too much work for just enabling ansi

[pine smelt]

in effect, is that just an entirely more useless way to do os.system()

[versed aurora]

for an empty call? kinda

you'd still want to use it if you are doing anything specific but for just ansi codes its just a lot easier to do an empty call

the specific flag is ENABLE_VIRTUAL_TERMINAL_PROCESSING (0x200) i believe

oh wait wrong value

it's 0x4

i was looking at the value for ENABLE_VIRTUAL_TERMINAL_INPUT

i specify the value because flags at the low level are generally just numbers (usually it's a number with one bit set at some location) and then to set multiple you just bitwise OR them

[grave inlet]

Yep, i decided that tkinter is probobly better for what i do since i kinda just do gui and the main gameplay being text

[versed aurora]

oh btw @pine smelt im still kinda nooby at pygame but here's an example of the color palette thing
you can also set an index individually too but i figured if you're doing all of them, may as well just do it all at once

import math
import pygame as pg

#========#
IMAGE_PATH = "img.png"
IMAGE_SCALE = 8
COLOR_PALETTE_SIZE = 8
COLOR_MAG = 200
TIME_INC = 0.05
#========#

pg.init()
img = pg.image.load(IMAGE_PATH)
img = pg.transform.scale_by(img,IMAGE_SCALE)
win_size = img.get_size()
screen = pg.display.set_mode(win_size)
clock = pg.time.Clock()

def color_func(t,mag=255):
    n = (math.pi)/3
    return [
        abs(int(math.sin(t-n)*mag)),
        abs(int(math.sin(t)*mag)),
        abs(int(math.sin(t+n)*mag))
        ]

t = 0
running = True
while running:
    for event in pg.event.get():
        if event.type == pg.QUIT: running = False
    new_palette = []
    for i in range(COLOR_PALETTE_SIZE):
        n = i/COLOR_PALETTE_SIZE
        new_palette.append(color_func(n+t,mag=COLOR_MAG))
    
    img.set_palette(new_palette)
    screen.blit(img,(0,0))
    pg.display.flip()
    clock.tick(60)
    t+=TIME_INC

it also requires this image in the same folder

oh wait i fucked up the exit thing

lemme fix that

here's a recording of the result

[pine smelt]

oh my god thanks

im gonna use that everywhere probably

[pine smelt]

oh ok

idk u can still do pretty good guis in pygame, thats often an interesting thing to tackle

especially to make it look good

[versed aurora]

np

oh mfw pygame has a dedicated angle function

that would have helped earlier lmao

when atan2 was fucking up for me

[pine smelt]

wut y

as in the zerodivision error?

[versed aurora]

nah

It wasn’t giving the right angles, kept changing super fast around -1,-1, and slow elsewhere, i fixed it by changing when i calculated the angle, maybe i had it offset or smth

[pine smelt]

maybe it was a radians <-> degrees thing?

tho if it was just around -1, 1 i doubt that

[limber veldt]

Interesting, thanks for sharing

This helped me understand the values I was getting from angle_to(), the 'without crossing -x' was the important bit

[past thistle]

guys

I'm swiching to C++

bye

[left basin]

hi there, I am quite new to pygame, I have been using pygame.Font for rendering text in my game, I recently discovered pygame.freetype and want to use that instead, but there are quite a few difference in both the syntax and the output surface that my display is messed up quite a bit, is there any easy way to get the same result as pygame.Font using pygame.freetype?

My example code

import pygame
import pygame.freetype
from game_constants import CAVIARDREAMS_FONT, BLACK, LIGHT_SKY_BLUE

window = pygame.display.set_mode((1536, 864))

f1 = pygame.font.Font(CAVIARDREAMS_FONT, 40)
f2 = pygame.freetype.Font(CAVIARDREAMS_FONT, 40)

t1 = f1.render("The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog FONT", True, BLACK, LIGHT_SKY_BLUE)
t2 = f2.render("The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog FREETYPE", BLACK, LIGHT_SKY_BLUE)[0]    

while True:
    window.fill((255, 255, 255))
    window.blit(t1, (15, 15))
    window.blit(t2, (15, 100))
    pygame.display.update()

https://www.pygame.org/docs/ref/freetype.html#pygame.freetype.Font.pad
looks like this does the job for me

[pine smelt]

are there any notable differences between font and freetype

[crude ember]

I don't suppose anyone here knows how to install pygame-ce in Ubuntu

[stuck spade]

um pip

just use pip

[crude ember]

where

[stuck spade]

atleast thats what i did

[crude ember]

cause i keep getting this problem

[stuck spade]

in terminal? Press Ctrl+Alt+T

[crude ember]

btw pygame or pygame ce

[stuck spade]

both works btw

but ce

As its more worked on

[crude ember]

bruh i get this message

[stuck spade]

which

[crude ember]

error: externally-managed-environment

× This environment is externally managed
╰─> To install Python packages system-wide, try apt install
python3-xyz, where xyz is the package you are trying to
install.

If you wish to install a non-Debian-packaged Python package,
create a virtual environment using python3 -m venv path/to/venv.
Then use path/to/venv/bin/python and path/to/venv/bin/pip. Make
sure you have python3-full installed.

If you wish to install a non-Debian packaged Python application,
it may be easiest to use pipx install xyz, which will manage a
virtual environment for you. Make sure you have pipx installed.

See /usr/share/doc/python3.11/README.venv for more information.

note: If you believe this is a mistake, please contact your Python installation or OS distribution provider. You can override this, at the risk of breaking your Python installation or OS, by passing --break-system-packages.
hint: See PEP 668 for the detailed specification.

ever got that before

[proper peak]

use a venv

[stuck spade]

oh

i see

[stuck spade]

you can use venv or pass
pip install pygame-ce --break-system-packages

[stuck spade]

by any chance are you on proot distro with termux?

[proper peak]

i'd suggest never using break-system-packages since, uhh, there's a reason it's called that. installing pygame itself won't hurt anything, but the possibly changing versions of the packages it depends on can. and if something goes wrong, it may break your system.

[crude ember]

no clue

[stuck spade]

if u don't wanna use that uh you can just use venv

[stuck spade]

i personally don't care about using it since I'm on a vnc anyway

[stuck spade]

this error only exists in newer versions tho u won't find it in jammy and below

[crude ember]

so what do you suggest to help me

[stuck spade]

it's as he said

use a virtual environment

[stuck spade]

sudo apt install python3-venv

python3 -m venv my-project-name (do this after opening terminal in a seperate folder)

source my-project-env/bin/activate (folder path then /bin/activate)

[crude ember]

no i need to reset ubuntu

[stuck spade]

you want to remove it?

[crude ember]

Yk I learned doing sudo apt remove python3 is not the best idea

I got so fucked

It took me 2 hours to reinstall Ubuntu

[proper peak]

I think the lesson to learn from this is to use pyenv and not touch your system python at all

[crude ember]

what does this do

[crude ember]

yh

[limber veldt]

Making any progress on that idea? I wouldn't even know where to start with that one

In Blender, I made an armature, just the 'bones' of the cube and parented the meshes of each cube segment, or cubelet, to those and the armature is animated, keeping all sides together as they rotate

[pine smelt]

no lol its exam season for me rn

i can prolly start building the 3d projection stuff

[grave inlet]

3d in pygame sound complicated

[stuck spade]

very

complicated

[exotic niche]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HnYg3YXQd0

[pine smelt]

how are u getting such high fps

arent gradients meant to be pretty intensive

[exotic niche]

i'm using a different technique

[pine smelt]

care to give a hint?

[quartz junco]

im tyring to get collision to work with the player and a block above them and i had it working until i implemented movement where the player would always jump like they were under the block. Now the player won't hit the block just teleport inside when it touches it. Could anyone help out?

https://github.com/Laughattack7339/all_things_gravity

[brisk yew]

for one, could just prerender the entire thing and then just uncover it over time

[brisk yew]

for example

import math

import pygame


WIDTH, HEIGHT = 640, 360
FPS = 60

pygame.init()
screen = pygame.display.set_mode((WIDTH, HEIGHT))
clock = pygame.Clock()

gradient_surface = pygame.Surface((WIDTH, 50), flags=pygame.SRCALPHA)
for x in range(gradient_surface.get_width()):
    color = pygame.Color.from_hsva(x % 360, 100, 100, 100)
    pygame.draw.rect(gradient_surface, color, [x, 0, 1, gradient_surface.get_height()])

mask_surface = pygame.Surface((WIDTH, 50), flags=pygame.SRCALPHA)
x_values = range(WIDTH)
y_values = map(lambda x_value: math.sin(x_value / (WIDTH / (21 * math.pi))) * 25 + 25, x_values)
pygame.draw.polygon(mask_surface, "white",[*zip(x_values, y_values), (WIDTH, 25)])

combined_surface = gradient_surface.copy()
combined_surface.blit(mask_surface, (0, 0), special_flags=pygame.BLEND_RGBA_MULT)

sliding_rect_1 = pygame.Rect(0, 180, WIDTH, 50)
sliding_rect_2 = pygame.Rect(0, 240, WIDTH, 50)

running = True
while running:
    dt = clock.tick(FPS) / 1000
    screen.fill("black")

    events = pygame.event.get()
    for event in events:
        if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
            running = False

    sliding_rect_1.x = (pygame.time.get_ticks() / 10) % (WIDTH * 2) - WIDTH
    sliding_rect_2.x = -((pygame.time.get_ticks() / 10) % (WIDTH * 2)) + WIDTH

    screen.blit(gradient_surface, (0, 0))
    screen.blit(mask_surface, (0, 60))
    screen.blit(combined_surface, (0, 120))

    screen.blit(combined_surface, (0, 180))
    pygame.draw.rect(screen, "black", sliding_rect_1)

    screen.blit(combined_surface, (0, 240))
    pygame.draw.rect(screen, "black", sliding_rect_2)

    pygame.display.flip()

that's some EPIC quality

anyway, you get the point, you can run the code yourself anyway

[cosmic olive]

Why not just do this?

if player_rect.colliderect(question_rect):
    if player_rect.top < question_rect.bottom:
    velocity = 0
    velocity += gravity

That only solves 1 problem tho but creates more 😂

[quartz junco]

I'll try it to see what happens

[cosmic olive]

How's it looking

[quartz junco]

@cosmic olive it works great after a couple tweaks the player starts falling after they hit the block and evrything

thanks for the help

[cosmic olive]

You didn't run into the other problem? 💀

[quartz junco]

Wait what

[cosmic olive]

Try hitting it from the side 💀

[quartz junco]

Oh yeah I never said it works perfectly

I'll fix it though

[cosmic olive]

Oh lmao

GL!

I'm also learning pygame

Have yet to make something

[quartz junco]

Yeah eventually I want to make a turn based rpg

[cosmic olive]

Well.. i did make something but I wouldn't called it a "game" 💀

[quartz junco]

Lol what'd you do

[cosmic olive]

Wellllllll

I made an onscreen joystick cuz I code on mobile without a physical keyboard 🗿 (yes I'm broke)

Basically making my own input interactions 😅

[quartz junco]

For coding on mobile that isn't bad

[cosmic olive]

It's also still incomplete but it works

[quartz junco]

How do you even code on mobile

[cosmic olive]

I could have made a d-pad but I wanted to be fancy

[cosmic olive]

There's a ide for Android called pydriod 3

[quartz junco]

Hm never heard of that

[cosmic olive]

Don't recommend. It's ass

But I learned to code with it so 🗿

[quartz junco]

Yeah I bought a laptop in March and it's doing pretty well

[cosmic olive]

Nice. Which ide do you use

[quartz junco]

I don't even know I think just the one that came with Python

[cosmic olive]

I see. Not too knowledgeable on pc ides anyways for obvious reason 💀

[quartz junco]

Lol

[cosmic olive]

Check DMs

[pine smelt]

Isn't that practically just a terminal

[pine smelt]

Ooo that's nice

I need to look into hsv more it seems more useful than rgb sometime

[brisk yew]

I just like that it can be rotated

[sudden lotus]

Hi

[sterile pasture]

for pygame do we always have to type

pygame.init()

to initialize it?

or not?

[pine smelt]

i mean y wouldnt u

its barely any slower

technically no tho

[raven kernel]

yes if you plan to open a window, that also initializes other modules like pygame.font, pygame.mixer etc though

so its just more convenient than doing it separately

you dont have to do it if you just want to mess around with surfaces

[sterile pasture]

okay thank you very much

[limber veldt]

I had a recent short project where I init'ed pygame font and took out the pygame.init(), so yeah, just depends on what parts of pygame one needs to use

[brisk yew]

set_mode and Window initialize the display module implicitly

[pine smelt]

anyone know if theres an api for ms paint

or anyone to draw stuff to it, preferrably via python

id rather not use pyautogui

[brisk yew]

probably not? why do you need that?

[pine smelt]

working on this thing to make explaining stuff to my mates a bit easier, especially drawing stuff

got this blue knob at the end a pencil im finding the x and y coordinate of

and make it into a "stylus" to draw stuff on

dont have the money to get my own trackpad or drawing pad so this my crappy diy solution, also inspired by michael reeves lol

the plan was to send the (x, y) values to paint or some drawing software

im assuming im gonna have to make my own tho in pygame or smthn

[brisk yew]

that's honestly quite ingenious

[pine plinth]

you can manipulate your mouse cursor using library like pyautogui
so you get x,y from camera, translate them to pixel coordinates on the screen, then move mouse there

ah, you said you dont want pyautogui 😔

[pine smelt]

last time i used it all hell went loose after i switched tabs

it somehow disabled the failsafe

ended up having to just restart the entire computer

[pine smelt]

im just broke lol

its a bit funky but its a good start i think

[burnt sail]

Uuh, that's quite cool

Which library are u using for the tracking of the pencil?

looks pretty cool

[pine smelt]

opencv, this is basically the code for the pencil tracking

rgb_color = np.uint8([[[6, 45, 122]]])
hsv_color = cv2.cvtColor(rgb_color, cv2.COLOR_RGB2HSV)
h, s, v = hsv_color[0][0]

lower_color = np.array([h-10, 100, 100])  # lower bound of the blue color in HSV
upper_color = np.array([h+10, 255, 255])  # upper bound of the blue color in HSV
kernel = np.ones((5, 5), np.uint8)

...
def foo(...):
        ret, frame = self.cap.read() #actual camera footage
        if not ret:
            return "Nothing"

        #rotating and converting to a hsv colour map
        frame = cv2.rotate(frame, cv2.ROTATE_90_COUNTERCLOCKWISE) 
        hsv_frame = cv2.cvtColor(frame, cv2.COLOR_BGR2HSV)

        #create a mask of the colour i want within a range and clean it up a bit
        mask = cv2.inRange(hsv_frame, lower_color, upper_color)
        mask = cv2.erode(mask, kernel, iterations=1)
        mask = cv2.dilate(mask, kernel, iterations=1)
        contours, _ = cv2.findContours(mask, cv2.RETR_TREE, cv2.CHAIN_APPROX_SIMPLE)

        #if there are any blue stuff on screen
        if contours:
            largest_contour = max(contours, key=cv2.contourArea) #find the largest blue area
            ((x, y), radius) = cv2.minEnclosingCircle(largest_contour) #find is coordinates and rough radius

            if radius > 5:
              cv2.circle(frame, (int(x), int(y)), int(radius), (0, 255, 0), 2)

[burnt sail]

Make it a GitHub repo, I would like to help :b

[pine smelt]

im not very experienced with github repos

in terms of pull requests and stuff but here

https://github.com/theShim/broke-paint

the requirements would be pygame-ce and opencv-python

im pretty busy so prolly won't be working on it for a while so have a field day

[burnt sail]

okie dokie

[burnt sail]

gonna take a look

[pine smelt]

i havent commented the main file but hopefully its coherent enuf

the main tracking stuff is in scripts/camera.py

[barren topaz]

yoo

[umbral hare]

helo anyone have recommendation for learning pygame ?

[pine smelt]

theres plenty of tutorials to get u started on youtube, Clear Code being a notable one

ultimately just get some starter "boilerplate" code in and just start messing around to learn as u go

start with a smaller project like pong or space invaders and work ur way up

[limber veldt]

And he just released another today, another long one that has a few projects

[pine smelt]

really?

[limber veldt]

Yep

[pine smelt]

hasn't popped up in my recommended ill have to have a look soon

[half flare]

hellu. so recently i tried using ursina and then making my models along with their textures in blender. When i import my .obj file into ursina it's just a black void. How do I load textures ? Cause the objects have applied materials and textures generated with nodes for Cycles. So why doesn't it have a texture ? Do I have to do something to bake it in ? Extract the texture somehow or what ?

[green gate]

def acUpdate(deltaT):

global a,display,fr

a = ac.getCarState(0, acsys.CS.TyreDirtyLevel)
display = round(float(a[0]), 1)
ac.setText(Body, "DATA={}".format(display))

hello im getting a syntax error in the last line ac.settext

that is for displaying but how do i fix it

[hoary kettle]

do anyone know how to add a time that when you type the text to stop you??

Code:

import time

first = 'The story of technology is the story of human civilization. From the invention of the wheel to the advent of the internet, technological advancements have shaped and reshaped the way we live, work, and interact with the world around us. As we stand on the brink of the fourth industrial revolution, it is worth reflecting on the profound impact that technology has had on society, the changes it has wrought, and the future it portends.'
second = 'The first major technological revolution came with the Agricultural Revolution around 10,000 BC. This period marked the transition from nomadic hunter-gatherer societies to settled agricultural communities. The development of farming tools, such as plows and irrigation systems, allowed humans to produce surplus food, leading to population growth and the rise of civilizations. This revolution laid the foundation for future technological progress, enabling the creation of cities, writing systems, and complex societal structures.'
third = 'The next significant leap occurred during the Industrial Revolution in the 18th and 19th centuries. This era was characterized by the transition from manual labor and artisanal crafts to mechanized production. Innovations such as the steam engine, spinning jenny, and power loom revolutionized industries, increasing productivity and driving economic growth. The Industrial Revolution also brought about significant social changes, including urbanization, the rise of a factory-based economy, and shifts in labor practices. It fundamentally transformed daily life and set the stage for modern industrial society.'

def game1():
print("Starting..")
time.sleep(2)
number = input("Select a number between 1-3\nSelect:")
print("LOADING...")
time.sleep(1)
# wra = input("Please select how much time you want to have\n[1|60 Seconds]\n[2|30 Seconds]\n[3|10 Seconds]")
# if wra == "1":
# enalepto()
# elif wra == "2":
# misolepto()
# elif wra == "3":
# dekadeutera()
if number == "1":
print('======================================================')
print(first) # To keimeno
print('======================================================')
first1 = input("Please type that text:\nType:")
score = len(first1.replace("", ""))
if first1 not in first:
print("You made an error in the Text, Please try again..")
time.sleep(10)
else:
print("Your score was", score, "/674")
time.sleep(10)
elif number == "2":
print('======================================================')
print(second) # To keimeno
print('======================================================')
first1 = input("Please type that text:\nType:")
score = len(first1.replace("", ""))
if first1 not in first:
print("You made an error in the Text, Please try again..")
time.sleep(10)
else:
print("Your score was", score, "/507")
time.sleep(10)
elif number == "3":
print('======================================================')
print(third) # To keimeno
print('======================================================')
first1 = input("Please type that text:\nType:")
score = len(first1.replace("", ""))
if first1 not in first:
print("You made an error in the Text, Please try again..")
time.sleep(10)
else:
print("Your score was", score, "/507")
time.sleep(10)

[pine smelt]

does the normal model loading not work

[half flare]

It do. Just no textures.

[pine smelt]

model_entity = Entity(
    model='path/model.obj', 
    texture='path/texture.png'
)

that

i cant really help with more than that not experienced with ursina or blender

afaik u should get the model and texture seperately from blender tho

[pine smelt]

prolly just an indent error

def acUpdate(deltaT):
    global a,display,fr

    a = ac.getCarState(0, acsys.CS.TyreDirtyLevel)
    display = round(float(a[0]), 1)
    ac.setText(Body, "DATA={}".format(display))

[pine smelt]

im confused what u want

[cosmic olive]

I'm also confused

[half flare]

but how ? I can't export a texture.png and I've looked everywhere on the web.

[pine smelt]

chatgpt'd

Bake Textures in Blender:
Open your Blender project and select your model.
Switch to the "Shading" workspace to view the material nodes.
Create a new image in the UV/Image Editor to bake your textures into. Go to UV Editing workspace, select your object, and unwrap your model (if you haven't already).
In the Shader Editor, add an "Image Texture" node and select the new image you created.
With your object selected, go to Render Properties and find the Bake section.
Choose the appropriate bake type (e.g., "Diffuse", "Combined") based on what you need and click Bake. Blender will bake the textures from the material nodes into the image you specified.
Save the baked texture image.

Export the Model:
After baking, make sure the baked texture is correctly assigned to your model in Blender.
Go to File > Export > Wavefront (.obj).
In the export settings, ensure "Include UVs" and "Write Materials" options are checked.

[half flare]

I see my texture is just black. I'll sort that out, but now it makes more sense. Thank you 🙂 I really appreciate the help

[pine smelt]

gl'

[royal oar]

hmmm yess, developing games 🧠

[unique sky]

guys i got a problem, where i get art ?

[royal oar]

wdym???

[unique sky]

my game art

aren't for selling like are for school

[royal oar]

make it, buy it, or find free bundles online

if it's for school you can probably just make them

it shouldn't be too hard

[unique sky]

bro are like a gamejam

in the school.

[royal oar]

Oh cool!

What's it about?

any specific theme?

[unique sky]

buying btw are a option i just got yo15

[unique sky]

do something that works and are cool, and maybe that u can explain what u did

[royal oar]

You made your game yet?

[unique sky]

just the c ontrols and the hitbox

[royal oar]

What's the game about?

[unique sky]

the main idea is like

4 greek gods or all(and u choose 1) and u got about 10 levels, and u fight like random mobs, getting harder, maybe getting with chat gpt(top 20 greek monsters from 1 to 20)

[royal oar]

What type of game is it? I'm interested now

[unique sky]

good question i don't know, i didn't thinked on this just think in my mind, i playing and like 🔥 🐐

[royal oar]

Is it like a platformer?

[unique sky]

ah i understond it now

something like: hero, monsters monters, they attack, u use skills dash do jumps, and maybe a ultimate

dang this message got some wrong

like "hero (in the left) and mobs spawning in the right(maybe this change) got some limit of monster spawning or not, and in each level, they become others monster, and maybee, in lvl 5 and 10 getting bosses o.o

[royal oar]

So a fighting game?

[unique sky]

basically

and thanks, u opened my mind, i didn't has thinekd about these things, so thanks <3

[royal oar]

no problem!

I think its important to go the whole 'writing up your game before you make it' thing so that you have an idea of what you want to do

[unique sky]

but maybe i use my 3 pixel art years (i didn't got everything good) but maybe ""maybe"" i can d o something

[unique sky]

ye, u got my mind to think about this rn, and not about the whole code first

[obtuse osprey]

sloppy english ⚠️

[royal oar]

shush.

[obtuse osprey]

no

i am the grammar police

[unique sky]

bro aren't my main language so

[obtuse osprey]

neither is mine

[unique sky]

and i don't are using translator, are better writing wrong and don't using translator

[obtuse osprey]

im 14 and my national language is different from english

no excuses

[unique sky]

just going to ignore u, u are getting out of my goal

[obtuse osprey]

i mean i can fully understand what you mean, but it's very sloppy, but you were correct here

Don't you dare nerd react the grammar police

[pine smelt]

thought i'd send a progress update on my broke man's drawing pad thing

the top half is usable asw just dont want to show my hand

[unique sky]

got something, i aren't a god like artist btw so

[royal oar]

Are you tracking the tip of the pencil???

[pine smelt]

ye

[royal oar]

That's honestly so epic 🙏

[pine smelt]

thanks

[royal oar]

Can you set certain bounds on the camera where it can detect your pencil?

Like if it goes outside a set box then it wont be detected?

[pine smelt]

i mean the bounds are limited by the camera on my phone

i scale it up to the window size

[unique sky]

i can't send images

[pine smelt]

if i had a wider fov then ye i could set my own bounds for the pencil

[pine smelt]

u should be able to how many were u trying to send

[unique sky]

1

[pine smelt]

uh

what was the image

[unique sky]

a drawing

[pine smelt]

oh idk dont see y that would trigger anything

try resending or ask a mod

[unique sky]

nah i can't

ah ok, is because it's a jpeg

here

the bird is a fenix

[unique sky]

so what u think @royal oar ??

[royal oar]

👍

I think that a fighting game would be really cool like that!

I'm guessing you're going to have different abilities for each character you play as

you could try doing Pixel art for it if you wanted

And then you could use Software to animate it, instead of having to make every single frame

[pine smelt]

ive done pretty much all my art using https://pixilart.com/ if that helps

in terms of pixel art software its mid as hell but has animation and most good tools like palettes and stuff for free

ms paint, while limited is also usable

ive made most of my tilemaps in there

[burnt sail]

Hmm, I have an idea for a color selector and an eraser function using mediapipe for hand tracking 0.o

But I have been pretty busy lately

Nonetheless, wait for a pull request :D

[solemn mist]

could anyone help me with figuring out how to make a sprite rotate in a loop without getting messed up

i've tried googling it but it isn't really working for me

[limber veldt]

The issue with rotating a surface is needing a fresh copy of the original image each time it rotates so that you're not making copies of copies of copies and so on. Here's how I did it for this sample sprite https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ZXVQ

Oh and also getting a new rect each time and placing at the center of the old rect

As an image rotates, its surface changes size, so a new rect is usually necessary and placing it at the same position as the old rect will keep it stationary

[solemn mist]

Gotcha thank u that makes sense, I’ll try that out in a bit

[limber veldt]

np

[limber veldt]

And I had some extra imports in that file, I actually hijacked an old demo to make that one, forgot about losing a couple of imports that are no longer used

[solemn mist]

hey sorry, what is get_frect()?

[limber veldt]

It's essentially the same as get_rect(), you familiar with that?

It's a feature of pygame-ce, so if you're using regular pygame, you can use get_rect() instead, but I suggest updating to pygame-ce anyway

If you do decide to update to pygame-ce, be sure to uninstall the old pygame first

[solemn mist]

oh ok gotcha, i have to be using pygame for my class

[limber veldt]

The pygame-ce is the community edition since the original pygame is kinda outdated and no longer being updated. Your school might consider changing to pygame-ce, too, but no biggie. pygame-ce has some nice features

So you're right, stick with whatever the school is using

[solemn mist]

oh ok thanks, would there be anything else i would have to change or am i probably just doing it wrong? i can't get it to rotate

[limber veldt]

Nope, that should be it

[limber veldt]

You'd need to share what you have for me to have any chance of knowing what's wrong

[solemn mist]

alright i think the movement is kinda messing with it, but ill send the code

or actyally ill put it in a paste

[limber veldt]

Did you try running the code I shared (after changing the two occurrences of frect to rect)?

[solemn mist]

yeah im trying to implement it into my own code tho

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/DBCQ

[limber veldt]

Ok

Hmm, I have a feeling that it's running so fast that you might not see a rotation happening

[solemn mist]

oh ok ill try using the clock thing u did

[limber veldt]

With animation, we at least need a consistent clock speed or frames per second, even if not implementing deltatime

And I'm not sure with your code structure there, it's kinda weird to start your while loop there

[solemn mist]

yeah xd it is a little awkward but that show my teacher wants it

[limber veldt]

Ok

[solemn mist]

i tried implementing the clock thing and its not rotating 😔

[limber veldt]

Sorry man, maybe your teacher knows, cause I don't really see all of the code here or know why some of it is the way it is

[solemn mist]

allg thanks for trying i did learn a lot from it anyways

ill prolly give up on it cause i was trying to add something extra so i don't need it

[pine smelt]

O cool

Wut would the handytracking be for? Some sort of hand rig?

[ocean temple]

Are there some already assembled tools to make hud/menu for pygame?
Buttons, checkboxes, input fields, scrollbars.
Etc.

[raven kernel]

yeah you can checkout pygame_gui
https://pygame-gui.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

[burnt sail]

Right know I saw that you have to press the Space key to let the computer know that you want to draw, but I want to be able to enable and disable that just by tracking the way you hold the pencil

And also the color and eraser :b

But that might be complicated I'm kinda noob with mediapipe

But we can try :b

[pine smelt]

Oh ye I changed that to E and R for drawing or erasing, but that would definitely be better

[pine smelt]

I have a bit of experience I can help a bit if needed

[pine smelt]

Just realised I could put a different coloured knob on the other end of the pencil if needed for the rubber lol

[burnt sail]

Hehe, that's cool!

[burnt sail]

We can work together on it owo

Humble AP Apple Pencil

Xd

[vestal herald]

why my question got locked in get-help

[acoustic gale]

probably cause of inactivity

[limber veldt]

Maybe from inactivity. I found the question and that's really weird. All I can think of is maybe checking the images, are they 8-bit RGB or RGBA?

[grave inlet]

it gets locked after a set amount of time

[acoustic gale]

I wanna make a pokemon like rpg game but im still on step 0 of just having the idea. what would be the best way to go about it? rn im thinking abt using a bare bones library like pygame or arcade and a imgui lib for development since it has no built in gui, but is there a different library I should use? if not would you say I should use some form of pygame or just use arcade?

[limber veldt]

I've used pygame, I like it, recommend it, but haven't used others so I have no comparison

[acoustic gale]

also building my own engine ontop of it***

[limber veldt]

And Clear Code has a tutorial using pygame that is basically the game you've described

[grave inlet]

making a game engine sounds unsuprisingly complicated

[limber veldt]

I was just playing with plotting a spiral and came up with two ways to produce the same thing ```py

    radius = 200
    center = Vector2(400, 400)
    for angle in range(0, 1080, 10):
        x = radius * math.cos(math.radians(angle)) + center.x
        y = radius * math.sin(math.radians(angle)) + center.y
        radius -= 2
        Spot((x, y), 'green', self.spots)

    radius = 210
    rotating_point = Vector2(1, 0)
    for angle in range(0, 1080, 10):
        point = rotating_point * radius + center
        Spot((point.x, point.y), 'red', self.spots)
        rotating_point.rotate_ip(10)
        radius -= 2```

I made one radius slightly larger so we can see them both

[grave inlet]

sheesh

looks pretty cool

[limber veldt]

I need it for a path, using them for waypoints...eventually

[grave inlet]

paths?

[limber veldt]

Yeah, for a sprite to follow

[grave inlet]

ohh, goodluck i guess

sounds complicated to make

for me atleast

i dont do much pygame myself

[limber veldt]

Just making effects for a card game, playing cards will follow these paths and I need a few of them in different shapes

[grave inlet]

ah, i see. sounds like a cool card game your making

[limber veldt]

I'd like to learn more ways of animating path following but the only way I know is iterating waypoints

Basically seek a point, when within some distance, get the next point, repeat

[grave inlet]

i should try pygame again

i wanted to make like a copy of that one card game in final fantasy

[limber veldt]

Well, at least you have an idea for a project, perhaps motivation

[vestal herald]

idk man i exported em from aseprite, every tile works expect those trees

[limber veldt]

Maybe someone will come along and have some suggestion because I just don't know

Can you share one of the images here and I can test it?

[pine smelt]

O rly that's cool

I've only seen bezier implementations for complex paths and splines and stuff

[vestal herald]

@limber veldt

[pine smelt]

Wuts the problem?

[limber veldt]

I made an experiment for that too https://paste.pythondiscord.com/FZEA

[pine smelt]

For bezier?

[limber veldt]

Yeah

I've since switched to just using Blender for making paths with a little export script, but that was good insight on how to make them

[pine smelt]

Nice

[limber veldt]

I've tested the image by blit'ing it onto a screen and I don't see those artifacts here, so I still don't know

I exported it from gimp with 0 compression to get this image, you can try it if you'd like

I saved your image, loaded to gimp, exported as png and the export is 10x larger filesize, but I don't really know why. Maybe aesprite used some compression on the export

[vestal herald]

tadaaa

its better

but still

a lil bit

[limber veldt]

Yeah, still some artifacts there

[vestal herald]

i thought the problem was with code

ig its the image

will try to do something and if i have questions i ll come back to u

[limber veldt]

Ok, there are some nearly transparent pixels in the image

We can see them here with this selection

And that seems to be the issue, those pixels I found look directly related to those showing white in your screenshot

[raven kernel]

the trees are so much more detailed than the tiles lol

[pine smelt]

im assuming its just a template for now lol

[limber veldt]

Yeah, that's a pretty nice tree

[pine smelt]

also did u also remake fluffy's editor??

been using this thing for ages

just with a few extra shortcuts and doohickeys

[limber veldt]

That looks so good, the atmosphere. Some day I'll make a big platformer, so many projects

My Robot Odyssey is kind of a platformer but not really, more like adventure

[regal willow]

isn't drawing something on the screen every frame very unoptimized

or is it just how it is

i've read this comment section and it made me think

[raven kernel]

sure, in this case you could be saving that rectangle as a surface instead

[regal willow]

i'll look into that, thanks

[regal willow]

you blit them afterwards, right?

something like this

[raven kernel]

yep

[regal willow]

thanks 👍

[vestal herald]

its not mine LMAO. free sample, i just made it little and made to match with my pallete

[vestal herald]

YEAH

[limber veldt]

The original Galaga had a glitch where if you could waited long enough, the enemies would run out of bullets because the game could only reuse so many and from then on, the enemies no longer shoot, even after clearing the level

[vestal herald]

everything stayed the same lmao

except background

[vestal herald]

so its good lvl editor? did u make full games w it? i want to use tiled or something else

[vestal herald]

oh

so i should remove em?

hold on

ahhhh

ye i got it

[limber veldt]

Those pixels should be fully transparent, not partially

[vestal herald]

ye

but what about the original problem

like

why was there a gray background

[limber veldt]

I don't know

[vestal herald]

if we wont know ig i will just remove these spaces and thats it

[vestal herald]

chill bro

its just beginning of development

[pine smelt]

uhh

idk i just like having the freedom of having my own custom editor for a specific game

rather than building around smthn built in Tiled

Tiled is prolly easier and has more functions though if u just want to crank out a game

[vestal herald]

a

[pine smelt]

oh also i dont have any tiled experience, but a little thing

u can have fancy lil QoL effects in a custom editor

i have particles and shortcuts, floodfills, have made palettes and sound effects and all sorts to make the actual level building less boring

making maps for full stages or games can be REALLY monotonous so it can help to break the repetitiveness of it

[vestal herald]

ye the thing is im new to pygame and for the beginning just want to deal with programming the game not editor

so the ready product for level editing would be great

im surprised there is nothing like that for pygame

[vestal herald]

big opensource editor with fancy ui and other stuff

[pine smelt]

Ye most ppl just use tiled

Since it integrates well into python and pygame with its own library

I hav4nt seen a ful blown pygame editor yet

[vestal herald]

u said "crank out" game, do u mean like u cant get good game with tiled?

[pine smelt]

Sry I meant

Quickly build a game

[vestal herald]

oh

alr

[limber veldt]

I should have made one for robot game, in the end, I'm sure it would have taken less time than making all the lists

[pine smelt]

U DID THAT IN LISTS?

🙏

[limber veldt]

Yip, basically this times 430 or so

Of course, with variations, very few layouts are the same

I'm using this kind of dict to describe them (so far), this is a small level, and still a work in progress https://paste.pythondiscord.com/LOVQ

[vestal herald]

ayyyo

[limber veldt]

Which kind of shows one of the problems I have with Tiled not supporting list or array custom properties. That 'links' entry describes each room's right, down, left and up room

[limber veldt]

Hi

[vestal herald]

hi

[limber veldt]

But there's probably dozens of ways to describe a level. I could take all those values and make separate files per level for them. Like level1 folder with texts.py, rooms.py and so on, level2 folder the same, and so on

[limber veldt]

And I suppose that could be easily worked around, too. Use a 4-digit string instead and parse it for instance

[vestal herald]

bro

how do i remove em now

[limber veldt]

I would do a select by color with some threshold and select the transparent area, it should get those that are within threshold of the color you select, then delete the selection, being sure to keep all of the tree pixels

[vestal herald]

sry bro installed gimp only rn

[limber veldt]

I would do a select by color with some threshold and select the transparent area, it should get those that are within threshold of the color you select, then delete the selection, being sure to keep all of the tree pixels

Leave it at composite but maybe adjust threshold

Confirmed, that works. I set the threshold to like 14 or so, clicked a totally transparent spot then deleted the selection (Delete key)

To confirm, slide the threshold back to 0 and select the same area again, it will get all of the transparent pixels

Gimp is kind of awkward to use maybe, but it's really powerful image editing tool

I'm not very good with it but can get usually things done

[vestal herald]

where is totally transparent button

[limber veldt]

Some where in the image where you don't see a color? Hopefully one of the pixels that is NOT partially transparent

[vestal herald]

oh

bruh

my brain

sry bro

[limber veldt]

You have a few thousand of those and only a few that are partially transparent, selecting a transparent one shouldn't be too much trouble

If you want, you can also select each of those bad pixels and delete them one by one, but I mean, that's kinda not learning how to use the tools available to you

[vestal herald]

thank u for ur efforts bro

i appreciate it

i found online website that deletes transparent background

and IT WORKED

YESSSIR

THANK U BRO

I WAS WITH THIS THING FOR 2 DAYS

finally can move on

[limber veldt]

I totally get it, bruh, especially with new software like Gimp, it's kind of complicated, but I feel like if one is going to make games, one needs to learn tools

[regal willow]

what's the point of using OOP in pygame

[limber veldt]

Easier organization of code

[vestal herald]

ye i will have to learn it ye

but

what do u think about photoshop

[limber veldt]

Excellent software, too pricey for me

[regal willow]

i'm watching this youtube tutorial about OOP and the entire purpose that i'm seeing here is, if you have a lot of variables to define, you use OOP

is it really only for code organization?

[limber veldt]

And those variables belong to the object, they're not all over the code, the live inside that object, organized as part of it

[regal willow]

yea but you're not gonna be doing something like

game.run()
game2.run()

[limber veldt]

Not really

[regal willow]

i have this OOP right here and i'm only calling it once

so i'm gonna guess that it's optional

i meant class but you get the idea

[limber veldt]

Usually with an if __name__ == '__main__': condition, so the file only runs if it's the main file and not being imported

[regal willow]

i see

i was more confused about why people overruse OOP in pygame

[limber veldt]

Assuming people overuse it. I like using it as much as makes sense

[regal willow]

that seems like the correct approach

thanks for the info 👍

[limber veldt]

np

And there are other logical reasons to use oop too. Like some of the things I've done would be much harder with functional code

Not impossible, but not for me

[regal willow]

i guess it gets harder to maintain after it's like 1K+ lines without oop

[pine smelt]

im assuming u havent started working with actual objects yet then

[limber veldt]

The level data I shared up there ^ is this one. It's not supposed to have the keys in it and you didn't see that secret passage to the right, ok?

And I skipped putting all the keys into locks and took the shortcut to the portal

And the level that teleporter leads to probably took me months to get through when I played it the first time

I came up with a method to instance objects from a string, which at least makes editing those files pretty easy. If I don't want the keys, just take them out of that items list for that room

I think I need a simple teleporting animation

Or animate the teleporter image, something

Maybe dematerialize and rematerialize the player in the new level

Or...maybe just do like Mario in some games, shrinking black circle on the way out and expanding on the way in

[dapper surge]

fire !

[dapper surge]

gives me 80s vibes

[limber veldt]

It's a remake of an 80s game

[dapper surge]

thats coool

which game?

[limber veldt]

Robot Odyssey

From The Learning Company, 1985 or so

[dapper surge]

thats rlly cool

oh damn

[limber veldt]

And thank you

My biggest project yet...and still not really done but at least all the content is there

[pine smelt]

i forgot what game but there was this one reset death animation

where the player sorta turns into pixels and floats up like current or data packets thru a wire

changed screens then reformed back in the new position

[limber veldt]

Like Star Trek?

[pine smelt]

possibly? havent seen it

[limber veldt]

Oh ok, it's TV show, they had teleporters

[pine smelt]

oh kinda like that ye

just saw it

just more pixelated obviously

[limber veldt]

Right, that's good idea

The teleporter sound effect in the game sounds a lot like that used in the show too

[brisk yew]

yeah, this is generally overuse IMO

you're not really gaining much from it being a class

[random quiver]

Can I ues python let the arduino development board recognize the QR code and trigger specific actions based on different QR codes, such as controlling the switch and brightness of the light?

[jolly rivet]

Can anyone teach me game dev from scratch

?

I am new

[vagrant saddle]

yes learn about telemetrix / firmata and python<-rpc->arduino interactions, also that channel is more appropriate https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/545603026732318730 . Telemetrix-aio can also work from a web page written in pygame-web when using esp based boards programmed with arduino

[pine smelt]

In what library

[pine smelt]

adding some simple buttons

the last one will prolly be some sort of colour picker

[raven kernel]

i like the subtle shadows

[pine smelt]

easy way to add depth 👍

[limber veldt]

It was just a few days ago we talked about that and you have that already? Mindblown

[pine smelt]

thx, ive had to spend quite a bit of time on it, i was planning to use it to help explain/teach stuff to my mates

i find it easier to do with drawings and diagrams

we hve exams and stuff coming up soon so had to quickly make at least something

i might work on it as a bigger project tho it seems like a cool idea i havent really seen before

[cosmic olive]

How new

Check out a youtube channel named clear code

[limber veldt]

[dawn quiver]

Guys. What do you think? If indie game (which is new IP and made by new developer) potentially will sell more copies of his/her game if made game both purchased and free(depends on user chooice)

[astral fulcrum]

I am a python beginner. I am learning python by myself to develop game. But I haven`t good guide. Please give me some advice about that. The book would be better for me
Thanks

[pine smelt]

as with most things, Clear Code on youtube is a good start for tutorials

he has a couple, one for python in general and one for pygame

both very well made

not sure about any books

[pine smelt]

depends on how good the game is and ur marketing strategy

[dawn quiver]

If you just wanna understand and learn game development but not serious thing then python acceptable but if you wanna make career on this then python is the worst language to get started to game development.even javascript has much much better ecosystem for game dev than python.

In generally there is two path to get into game dev
(Btw these are my own therminalogy)

1. low level and maximalist game dev
2. high level and more generic game dev

95% game dev people are categorized in second category.they basicly choose a game engine then starts game dev and making games.for this purpose the programming language is depends on game engine and even sometimes gameengine has its own very specific scripting language.but mostly c# is way to go in this case

The first category is pretty older fashion way to create games but still valid and still this kinda guys making money.in this path there is no way other than c++(sometimes c and java) and it is much harder way to develop.you need to learn game dev and also creating game engines and very good math skills.you basicly will create game from basic window to 3d or 2d game you imagine.this kinda guys are rare in today industry but they are needed because most of AAA game studios uses they in house game engine which is specific for their company.

[pine smelt]

i disagree with python being the worst language completely, it is more difficult and less optimised in the grand context of programming languages but it will defintely get you into gamedev

plus u'll get the actual concepts and ideas done with easier syntax

which can be translated over to other languages if u choose to learn them

[dawn quiver]

So question then why not lua or js over python if you care simplicity most?

[pine smelt]

ok theres definitely an argument for lua

[limber veldt]

Game dev is as much about the concepts of animation and graphics as it is about the language. No matter the language

[pine smelt]

theres the logical side asw and actual problem solving

[dawn quiver]

Probably you mean lua has little case to translate lua skill to other fields but js is much much used in industry than python

[astral fulcrum]

So you mean I don`t need to learn that? I am not sure how to learn it yet.

[dawn quiver]

If you jusy flexing then python ok.but if you are serious in this path then do not waste your time in python.python is great but not for game dev.it is something like crime for me to be honest

As i said even js(which worst thing in IT) has much much much better ecosystem and libraries

If you wanna simple and big community go with godot if you wanna money as fast as possible then unity

I do not know what is current situation of godot in commercial game industry.i do not know companies hires godot dev or not.but it will be in the future i am sure 100%

[astral fulcrum]

You mean unity is better than python for game dev?

And in the future, unity is more popular as 100%?

[dawn quiver]

Unity is game engine and it uses c#.for gamedev carieer of course unity is much better than using python to make game

But this is not fare

Unity is specificly designed for game development but i hope you get the point

[limber veldt]

You learn how to use objects instead of coding them yourself, sure you can code too

[vagrant saddle]

whatever lang you use at work, you should know python to save time whenever you can

and there's obviously a confusion beetween assets pipeline work and game logic somewhere

[dawn quiver]

No doubt python is great

But for people which beginner and specificly wants to enter game development world then it is the worst for me

[astral fulcrum]

Actually, I want to make PES. For that, unity is good?

[dawn quiver]

Maybe this can be changed if godot embraces python instead of their own gdscript.idk why they choose custom language path but i think it is because porting to other platforms

[limber veldt]

It just depends what one wants to do, better is subjective

[dawn quiver]

You mean the game series PES?

[astral fulcrum]

Yeah, I am a football fan. So I gonna make PES.

[dawn quiver]

:)) short story it is impossible.once you get stared to game dev you will realise why.but you can work at similar work of course

In any company with lots of game devs

[astral fulcrum]

I want to join the company in the future

For that, unity is not good. Am I right?

[dawn quiver]

You can create any game with unity game engine

Most of game engines are generic purpose game engines so you can create any type of game with game engines

[astral fulcrum]

I think unity is not popular in the company

only C#, JAVA, PYTHON is more useful

[tranquil girder]

As a professional gamedev for 12 years, I disagree. Any game you make is good for your portfolio, regardless of language. And if you're not aiming for a job in a studio, but working on your own, it's also good.

[young horizon]

hello, how do you guys switch pages, from a button in a pygame file directing to def level() in main.py

[pine smelt]

wdym pages?

[pine smelt]

wut are the advantages of it if ur just working on ur own as a hobby or smthn

my only reason to not switch from python/pygame is im stubborn

[limber veldt]

I enjoy being in the code myself...kinda. I mean even using pygame is using quite a library of stuff that I didn't write

But it's much faster and works better than anything I could write

Mainly the display and the event loop, some of the C stuff too, beyond my skills

And even much of the python really, there's some cool stuff in there cause I've looked at some of it

[cosmic olive]

What is PES

[pine smelt]

thought id share this lil colour picker thing

[astral fulcrum]

football game

[pine smelt]

added the colour pick to the pencil thing

any suggestions or ideas to add?

[limber veldt]

Line size?

[pine smelt]

right now its controlled by how far away it is from the camera

tho i suppose a slider would be more accurate and just better

[limber veldt]

Oh I see, you've already implemented something

Nvm me then

[pine smelt]

no no i ill be adding ur suggestion thx

[pine smelt]

this sorta just happened by itself with my tracking code

and i just hadn't changed it since

[cosmic olive]

Oh okay

[pine plinth]

just an idea

[vagrant saddle]

reactable / reacTIVision

[pine smelt]

ive tried looking around but i just dont have a large piece of glass or a glass table for that matter anywhere for some reason

[raven kernel]

i find that maintaining a pen in air like that is probably very taxing, also you seem to be holding it from the other tip

i know using opencv and a blue dot seems like a nice idea, but couldnt you look into something like what older generation rolling ball mouse used, or even just something that detects motion and in what direction and sends in back to your computer?

[pine smelt]

oh no, i can hold it like a normal pencil

i just dont want my hand in the recording lol

[raven kernel]

ahh okay

then that makes it better

[pine smelt]

ye ill look into the rolling ball thing though

[raven kernel]

yeah maybe a rolling blue ball

id like my pen to stroke something rather than the air

[pine smelt]

thats fair enough ye

[raven kernel]

but still, a motion sensor would be optimal

[pine smelt]

i wouldnt have bothered with any of this if i had one of those lol

[raven kernel]

is that blue tac?

[pine plinth]

if you have 2 cameras and know their positions, then you can calculate ball position in 3d space

and you can interpret different pen positions differently:

• if it is close to the table - draw a line, otherwise - dont draw
• if it is in some selected region in space, it can trigger an event. For example: 6 positions in space correspond to 6 colors, and when pen enters one of them, a color is selected. You can put a piece of paper under these positions to make it simpler for you. So it is UI, but in real space 🤯

[random sonnet]

i messed up...
by fixing the linting errors, i somehow managed to break my tetris

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/PSUA

[balmy aurora]

Do you have version control?

And what do you mean by break, do you get a traceback?

[vestal iron]

im trying to implement the jumping physics for flappy bird and i wonder is 0,0003 gravity is a normal number

[stray stream]

absolutely not, are you using delta time?

[vestal iron]

yea i figure out, i was using delta time but in seconds xD

i just recently started using delta time

[random sonnet]

It broke as in it no longer runs, errorless

And it wouldn't be a problem, if I knew what it was

[royal oar]

Any of y'all know Godot and can help me with tilemaps?

[random sonnet]

Empty window simulator™️

[dusk flame]

whats a good lib to develop games in py

[cosmic olive]

pygame ?

[pine smelt]

ye pygame's the most well known and probably well documented one

theres quite a few tho like pyglet, ursina and kivy

[sterile flax]

Can anybody give the cheatcode

[cosmic olive]

Wym

[burnt sail]

What do you mean?

[limber veldt]

It's up, A, right, A, down, A, left, A, Start. /s

[cosmic olive]

No. It's right-click, scroll down, delete

[mild wing]

why does pygame.key.get_pressed() get updated only once a second?

nvm i got it

pygame.event.get() is a required call before it

and i was calling it in a main thread once a second

[marble jewel]

Updated Official Isometria Trailer - https://youtu.be/5rfL3drmEGE - Made with Python and Pygame-CE

[pine smelt]

wooo! congrats

[jolly holly]

can anyone help me with my flappy bird game collision code 😔 ive been trying to debug for hours

[cosmic olive]

What's the problem

[jolly holly]

some reason when i run my game it doesnt recognize when the bird is literally going through the pole and i swear my collision code is correct and im going crazy 😭

[cosmic olive]

Let's see the code

[jolly holly]

okay i have 3 classes but ill just show yuo my player class rn since thatss my collision code

i apply it in my actual playingGame class if u want to see that after

import py5
from py5 import *
from Obstacle import Obstacle

class Player:
def draw(self):
self.update()
image(self.img, self.x, self.top, 60, 60)

def __init__(self, img, top = py5.height, acc = 0):
    self.top = top
    self.x = 80
    self.acc = acc
    self.vel = 0
    self.g = 0.007
    self.img = img
    self.collision = False
    self.score = 0

def get_y(self):
    return self.top

def update(self):
    self.acc += self.g
    self.vel += self.acc
    self.top += self.vel

def check_collision(self, obstacle):
    player_left = self.x
    player_right = self.x + 60
    player_top = self.get_y()
    player_bottom = self.get_y() + 60
    obstacle_left = obstacle.x
    obstacle_right = obstacle.x + 100
    obstacle_top = obstacle.y
    obstacle_bottom = py5.height - (obstacle.bottom_size - 20)

    print("Player:", player_left, player_right, player_top, player_bottom)
    print("Obstacle:", obstacle_left, obstacle_right, obstacle_top, obstacle_bottom)

    isAbove = player_bottom < obstacle_top
    isBelow = player_top > obstacle_bottom
    isLeft = player_right < obstacle_left
    isRight = player_left > obstacle_right

    collision = not(isAbove or isBelow or isLeft or isRight)

    print("Collision:", collision)

    self.collision = collision
    return collision


def update_score(self, obstacle):
    if self.x > obstacle.x + 100 and not obstacle.passed:
        self.score += 1
        obstacle.passed = True

[cosmic olive]

Not sure about how your not(isAbove...) is supposed to work but maybe try this?

collision = not any((isAbove, isBelow, isLeft, isRight))

@jolly holly

Oops any is lowercase

[jolly holly]

i tried making it so that i defined where the player is and if it's not in any of those specified places then it should be a collision

i also just tried your implementation but i got an error saying that bool item isn't iterable :(

[cosmic olive]

Where are you checking collision?

[jolly holly]

here's the relevant code in my draw function

    for x in obstacles:
        x.update()
        x.draw(colerm_normal, colerm_down)
        player.check_collision(x)
        player.update_score(x)

    if player.collision == True:
        deathScreen = True
        playingGame = False

i also globaled all of it though i didnt think it was necessary to do that for draw

[cosmic olive]

What is the full traceback

Which bool are they talking about

[cosmic olive]

You didn't write it exactly as mine

[jolly holly]

oh the double parantheses?

[cosmic olive]

And no "or"s

Commas

[jolly holly]

omg apologies

let me retry

it's running now but it still doesn't reckognize the collision 😭

[cosmic olive]

See which bool is True

I feel like your checking system is a bit weird

[jolly holly]

it says all of the collisions are false even though i go through them........

[jolly holly]

like my greater than or less than things?

[cosmic olive]

Yeah the isAbove etc they all need to be False to make collision True

I don't exactly know how you're doing that

You basically need to be inside

[jolly holly]

yeah i tried to do the inverse of that by using not(...and...and... etc)

I can try doing it the more normal way 😭

[cosmic olive]

Which library are you even using?
Seems like you're trying to reinvent collisions

[jolly holly]

okay i replaced it with this:
collision = player_left > obstacle_left and player_right < obstacle_right and player_top > obstacle_top and player_bottom < obstacle_bottom

and its still not recognizing it AAHHHH

[jolly holly]

HAHA yeah i basically am at this point but im using the py5 library?

[cosmic olive]

Is there a particular reason as to why you're not using pygame?

Because pygame has built-in collision detection

[jolly holly]

omg wait 😭 this was just the library given to me by my teacher

that would be so much easier

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY ITS NOT WORKING i dont understand 😭

[cosmic olive]

Were you required to use it?

[jolly holly]

yeah unfortunately :(

[cosmic olive]

Your teacher is evil that's all imma say

[jolly holly]

its okay i really appreciate your help i think im going to try just using if statements and if that doesnt work ill try to talk to him....

[jolly holly]

HAHA yeah i have to hardcode all the collisions 😭

[cosmic olive]

I got it to work

[limber veldt]

Rect to rect collision isn't super complicated but pygame would sure make this a lot easier

[cosmic olive]

I'm actually surprised it was this easy

[limber veldt]

I'm just poking at my pathfinder sandbox code, working out another a* implementation

[cosmic olive]

@jolly holly

right = player.right >= obstacle.left
left = player.left <= obstacle.right
top = player.top <= obstacle.bottom
bottom = player.bottom >= obstacle.top

collision = all((right, left, top, bottom))

[limber veldt]

I don't have it properly updating the costs but like so

[cosmic olive]

Don't ask me why this works, it was my first attempt and it literally works cuz I tested it

I didn't think my first attempt would work

[limber veldt]

That's cool, but I have to look at a diagram to really see how it works

[cosmic olive]

That looks like snake game periodic table edition

[cosmic olive]

Did you test it?

[limber veldt]

Haven't tested it myself but just going through the logic in my head

With a diagram

[cosmic olive]

I see

It's trippy

I went through the logic step by step but eventually I lost myself

But it still works

I'm too lazy to go through the logic again lol

[limber veldt]

Working through one axis reveals the logic for both, just turned sideways for the other