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crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:37 AM

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the 10% that aren't caught by the filters will be caught by normal, organic moderation

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so by keeping the filters relatively simple and only catching obvious cases, we can keep the maintainability costs low, and the community doesn't really suffer for it.

uneven cairn Apr 4, 2020, 10:38 AM

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Ah, that makes sense

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So should the bad name filter also include URL invites?

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or is that also intended to be manually caught?

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:39 AM

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I don't think we've ever discussed it before, it's a perfectly valid question

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<@&267629731250176001> <@&587606783669829632> Do you guys have an opinion on this? Should we be checking URLs for bad words?

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:40 AM

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urls would be way more commonly inaccurate to filter by word patterns that we use for general message content

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:41 AM

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can you give an example of what you mean?

nocturne hare Apr 4, 2020, 10:41 AM

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urls will probably give a lot of false positives for those randomly generated keys

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:41 AM

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sydneytherapist.com

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:41 AM

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right, so like hashes that contain faG or whatever

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hahaha

nocturne hare Apr 4, 2020, 10:41 AM

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lol

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:41 AM

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these are a known issue due to lacking of spaces

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:41 AM

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sydneytherapist.com is a great example.

nocturne hare Apr 4, 2020, 10:41 AM

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And yes, that's what i mean

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We've had a few hashes trigger the filters already in code

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:42 AM

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yes, it happens.

nocturne hare Apr 4, 2020, 10:42 AM

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I'd imagine it's more common in urls

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but then, I'm not against it

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Pings don't hurt me.

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:42 AM

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i personally am for more personalised behaviour specific for urls

molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 10:42 AM

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Scunthorpe problem is notoriously hard to solve, yeah

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:43 AM

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like how we already have a link blacklist, in a simple sense

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but also i'd like to see eventually maybe consideration for a url trust check

molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 10:43 AM

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There's web of trust, and maybe we could try to unfurl URLs in case they're shortened?

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:44 AM

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there's a service for that

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there's also this

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https://spoopy.oceanlord.me/

molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 10:44 AM

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lol, spoopy detector

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:(

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crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:46 AM

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I don't think a trust check for URLs is a terrible idea, sure.

woeful thorn Apr 4, 2020, 10:47 AM

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Pings don’t hurt, no, but a flurry of non-action pings tunes people out to ones that actually matter

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:47 AM

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URL Risk APIs
https://urlscan.io/about-api/
https://cloud.google.com/web-risk/
https://www.mywot.com/
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/home/upload (urls are simple api calls, unlike files which we've talked about before)
https://www.scamdoc.com/
https://spoopy.oceanlord.me/
URL Unshortener
https://wheregoes.com/ (primary preference)
https://unshorten.me/api

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:47 AM

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glass pecan **URL Risk APIs** <https://urlscan.io/about-api/> <https://cloud.google.com/web-...

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:47 AM

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let's stick this in an issue instead of a pin if we want it to happen

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:47 AM

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im trying to find another link first

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i'll unpin once i do or someone else does

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:48 AM

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hey@uneven cairn, were you interested in working on something like this?

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how about a trust check?

uneven cairn Apr 4, 2020, 10:48 AM

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Sure!

molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 10:48 AM

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page.rest is discontinued

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I don't know of another unfurler service

uneven cairn Apr 4, 2020, 10:49 AM

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Would it also entail the url checks for invites?

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Since those are easy to detect

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:49 AM

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https://unshorten.me/api

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i found this but i don't think it's the one that was suggested to me

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:49 AM

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trust checking invites?

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I'm not sure I follow

uneven cairn Apr 4, 2020, 10:50 AM

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Oh no

molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 10:50 AM

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That'd work for major sites

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I wonder if it's able to handle custom shorteners

uneven cairn Apr 4, 2020, 10:50 AM

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As in someone might try to put an unauthorised invite as their display name

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like that

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:50 AM

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not sure gdude, but it would be interesting to check

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that would be a simple regex check re: invites

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:51 AM

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seems like that would be a different issue, to me.

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we already have an invite filter

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expanding it to involve nicknames, well, that's an idea, I'm not entirely sold on it

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:51 AM

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yeah these would be specifically for checking unknown links

uneven cairn Apr 4, 2020, 10:51 AM

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Ah, alright

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so this would just be an additional URL filter?

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:52 AM

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we don't want it to check every nickname on the server, or like, every time someone joins or every time someone changes nicknames or anything because with 40K users that's just a ton of stuff we don't care about

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we only care about people who are active in this community, nobody will see the rest

molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 10:52 AM

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@glass pecan it is, yep

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it does pick up on redirects and such, so it's not using arbitrary shortener APIs

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:52 AM

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I imagine that this would just be an expansion on the already existing URL filter

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:52 AM

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nice gdude

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:53 AM

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or maybe a new filter

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:53 AM

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thanks for checking

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:53 AM

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new filter could work

molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 10:53 AM

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uneven cairn Apr 4, 2020, 10:53 AM

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Oh, so that's why the nickname filtering triggers based on on_message.

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:53 AM

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yes exactly.

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moderating inactive users is silly

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but the nickname filter could probably, using the same on_message event, also be checking for invites and URLs

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:54 AM

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heres another one that was just recommended to me also https://wheregoes.com/

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ill add these two to pins for quick reference until the issue is made

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:54 AM

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that would be a separate issue from the URL thing though

molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 10:54 AM

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That one looks great

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:55 AM

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you're welcome to handle both, @uneven cairn, if you're looking for stuff to do and you wanna carve out a spot for yourself in our filters.

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but first things first - could you make some issues for these?

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and include the millions of URL unfurling and trust check URLs @molten bough and @glass pecan have been posting above in the issue for the URL trust checker filter?

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:55 AM

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lol

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:55 AM

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and I guess it'll be up to you to do some research on them and figure out what will work well

uneven cairn Apr 4, 2020, 10:56 AM

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Sure

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so one for web of trust-style filtering

molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 10:56 AM

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you're totally right to use an API for this by the way, I've written unfurlers and holy shit are there edge cases

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 10:56 AM

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yeah

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i seriously don't want a custom implementation of these to maintain lol

crude gyro Apr 4, 2020, 10:57 AM

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yeah @uneven cairn and that one should probably unfurl shortened URLs, so that we're not trustchecking bitly

uneven cairn Apr 4, 2020, 10:59 AM

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So should URL unfurling and URL trust checking be separate issues?

molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 11:00 AM

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I expect you'd want to do unfurling first, since you probably want your trust check to be on the target

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 11:00 AM

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nah, the unfurling is to increase the effecti... what gdude said

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im slow lol

uneven cairn Apr 4, 2020, 11:00 AM

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Right, that makes sense

molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 11:00 AM

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:>

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actually you probably want to unfurl everything that doesn't match a url that we'd normally delete immediately

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like an invite

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and then run those filters over it again on the target

glass pecan Apr 4, 2020, 11:01 AM

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would just be a single url filter pipeline in the end

molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 11:02 AM

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I mean, if we ban a domain, and then someone posts a url from that domain that redirects elsewhere

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if we don't check before and after unfurling then we're going to miss either the source (which we've banned) or the target

uneven cairn Apr 4, 2020, 11:38 AM

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I've made the issue now

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Although it appears that https://spoopy.oceanlord.me/ uses Google's web risk API, which is nice

Spoopy Detector

How to find out if a site is spoopy

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although there is no explicit API policy

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which makes me reluctant to use it, in case the API goes down

uneven cairn Apr 4, 2020, 1:17 PM

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~~Oh, nevermind~~

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Completely missed the Docs tag

green oriole Apr 4, 2020, 1:54 PM

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How would you reschedule a task from within the this task, with the same ID?

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It is for the offensive message PR, I need to reschedule deletion if it fails

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bot.cogs.filtering | WARNING | Failed to delete message 695994391491248250, rescheduled for 2020-04-04 13:53:53.882000
bot.utils.scheduling | TRACE | Filtering: scheduling task #695994391491248250...
bot.utils.scheduling | DEBUG | Filtering: did not schedule task #695994391491248250; task was already scheduled.
bot.utils.scheduling | TRACE | Filtering: performing done callback for task #695994391491248250 140548982281216.
bot.utils.scheduling | TRACE | Filtering: deleting task #695994391491248250 140548982281216.```Here is the issue that I'm facing

tawdry vapor Apr 4, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Cancel the old task if it fails. Then, you will be able to schedule a new task.

green oriole Apr 4, 2020, 1:59 PM

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But can a task cancel itself?

tawdry vapor Apr 4, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Use asyncio.shield to prevent that

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Yes, it can cancel itself

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Put following code in a shield so it doesn't get cancelled

green oriole Apr 4, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Okay thanks!

tawdry vapor Apr 4, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Or just put the entire thing in a function and shield the function call

chilly elk Apr 4, 2020, 7:17 PM

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will it be possible for me to run docker on my windows 10 home? i appear to have Hyper-V capabilities

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molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 7:21 PM

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You need Pro for docker iirc

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Home includes just the parts of HyperV required for wsl2 from what I remember

sullen phoenix Apr 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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yeah you'd need windows 10 pro for full virtualization

chilly elk Apr 4, 2020, 7:29 PM

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ah darn

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so should I look into Docker Toolbox instead?

tawdry vapor Apr 4, 2020, 7:30 PM

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You could run a linux vm and then docker inside of that

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That is what I do

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A while ago I also considered looking into using vagrant + virtualbox and running docker inside that for a more headless approach but that never got anywhere

chilly elk Apr 4, 2020, 7:31 PM

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oh okay

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do you have a recommendation for the linux vm?

tawdry vapor Apr 4, 2020, 7:32 PM

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You mean the distro, or like vmware vs virtualbox?

chilly elk Apr 4, 2020, 7:32 PM

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i guess both

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im pretty inexperienced

tawdry vapor Apr 4, 2020, 7:34 PM

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I use vmware (paid version) + arch linux. I don't know what the free version of vmware is like. VirtualBox is free and open source, if that's your cup of tea. It doesn't really matter.

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The distro doesn't matter either if you're going for something very minimal (i.e. it's job will be solely to run docker and nothing more)

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I would not recommend Arch if you're not experienced with Linux

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Maybe debian? IDK honestly

tough imp Apr 4, 2020, 7:36 PM

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i use virtualbox + ubuntu lts and works just fine

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manjaro was giving me some trouble under virtualbox

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interestingly on my other machine where i boot into linux directly manjaro is flawless while ubuntu was freezing

chilly elk Apr 4, 2020, 7:40 PM

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ok thanks so much

molten bough Apr 4, 2020, 7:51 PM

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You can run docker under WSL

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I'm just not sure how well it handles it

chilly elk Apr 4, 2020, 8:09 PM

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hmm yeah thats the other thing i was thinking about

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i might try virtualbox and see how it goes

chilly elk Apr 5, 2020, 4:04 AM

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sorry to bother people, but if I run docker on a vm will I also need to clone the github repo and install python on the vm as well? or can I somehow connect to docker inside the vm from outside

tawdry vapor Apr 5, 2020, 4:06 AM

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It is possible to connect from the host to the guest.

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It depends on how you set up the network for the VM

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I have mine in bridged mode, which means it gets its own IP and is considered separate from the host

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So if a service in Docker is listener on localhost port 8080, and the VM has a local IP of 192.168.0.5, I can connect it from the host with 192.168.0.5:8080

chilly elk Apr 5, 2020, 4:08 AM

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oh okay, that makes sense

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thanks

tawdry vapor Apr 5, 2020, 4:08 AM

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I have not used the other network modes but it seems it could just share with the host so it's all going to end up on localhost.

solemn birch Apr 5, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Hello

tawdry vapor Apr 5, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Hello

gusty sonnet Apr 5, 2020, 8:14 AM

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@cold moon yes? Is there any conflict?

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 8:17 AM

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I show this on kick:

    @respect_role_hierarchy()
    async def apply_kick(self, ctx: Context, user: Member, reason: str, **kwargs) -> None:
        """Apply a kick infraction with kwargs passed to `post_infraction`."""
        infraction = await utils.post_infraction(ctx, user, "kick", reason, active=False, **kwargs)
        if infraction is None:
            return

        self.mod_log.ignore(Event.member_remove, user.id)

        action = user.kick(reason=reason)
        await self.apply_infraction(ctx, infraction, user, action)

To catch errors, I must put try-except to self.apply_infraction, but this have dependency infraction, what is DB entry, what mean, this can't be after applying infraction.

gusty sonnet Apr 5, 2020, 8:27 AM

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Very interesting

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I'm reading apply_infraction atm

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And looks like the action is being called way later in the code

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We may have to edit the scheduler instead

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Let me take a look at it

gusty sonnet Apr 5, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Yep @cold moon the errors are in apply_infraction actually

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And I found another error

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The one we're dealing with is py Traceback (most recent call last): File "/bot/bot/cogs/moderation/scheduler.py", line 151, in apply_infraction await action_coro File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/discord/guild.py", line 1655, in ban await self._state.http.ban(user.id, self.id, delete_message_days, reason=reason) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/discord/http.py", line 225, in request raise HTTPException(r, data) discord.errors.HTTPException: 400 Bad Request (error code: 50035): Invalid Form Body In reason: Must be 512 or fewer in length.

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The other one is

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Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/discord/ext/commands/core.py", line 83, in wrapped
    ret = await coro(*args, **kwargs)
  File "/bot/bot/cogs/moderation/infractions.py", line 71, in ban
    await self.apply_ban(ctx, user, reason)
  File "/bot/bot/decorators.py", line 203, in inner
    await func(self, ctx, *args, **kwargs)
  File "/bot/bot/cogs/moderation/infractions.py", line 248, in apply_ban
    await self.apply_infraction(ctx, infraction, user, action)
  File "/bot/bot/cogs/moderation/scheduler.py", line 176, in apply_infraction
    await self.mod_log.send_log_message(
  File "/bot/bot/cogs/moderation/modlog.py", line 122, in send_log_message
    log_message = await channel.send(content=content, embed=embed, files=files)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/discord/abc.py", line 856, in send
    data = await state.http.send_message(channel.id, content, tts=tts, embed=embed, nonce=nonce)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/discord/http.py", line 225, in request
    raise HTTPException(r, data)
discord.errors.HTTPException: 400 Bad Request (error code: 50035): Invalid Form Body
In embed.description: Must be 2048 or fewer in length.```

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Both are from apply_infraction

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So yeah I suggest looking at that one instead, I'd say do a discussion on how to deal with this - do we want a quick fix to truncate the message, or do we want to refactor apply_infraction which affects other commands as well

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 11:05 AM

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Someone changing the #help room names to that of atoms?

patent pivot Apr 5, 2020, 11:06 AM

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That's part of the new help system

crude gyro Apr 5, 2020, 11:07 AM

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they're not atoms, they're elements

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 11:08 AM

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@patent pivot What's changed?

patent pivot Apr 5, 2020, 11:09 AM

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We'll be putting out information soon, keep your eyes peeled

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 11:11 AM

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Whereabouts?

crude gyro Apr 5, 2020, 11:13 AM

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#announcements

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soon

patent pivot Apr 5, 2020, 11:13 AM

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Run !subscribe to be notified of new announcements

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 11:15 AM

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Sure, will do. Does the main portion of dev for this server occur on the Python-Discord GitHub?

hardy gorge Apr 5, 2020, 11:15 AM

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Yes, that's where all of our projects are

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Discussion also happens in this channel

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Need an extra pair of "hands"?

crude gyro Apr 5, 2020, 11:18 AM

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we're always looking for contributors, @sage sparrow

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there are hundreds of open issues

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feel free to see if you can find something that looks fun

brazen charm Apr 5, 2020, 11:18 AM

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Was wondering when going over the org, what is/was the python.org fork for?

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Sure, I'll take a look. Looks interesting!

brazen charm Apr 5, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Lots of unittest issues open now

crude gyro Apr 5, 2020, 11:19 AM

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@brazen charm an attempt to open a pull request to add us to Python.org/community

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which failed because that repo wasn't quite up to date with what was actually on the Python.org

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 11:25 AM

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#863 (https://github.com/python-discord/bot/issues/863) looks interesting.

GitHub

python-discord/bot

The community bot for the Python Discord community - python-discord/bot

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Is it up for grabs?

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Appears to be so.

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 11:26 AM

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No, user is already assigned

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 11:26 AM

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Oh right. Didn't notice that.

crude gyro Apr 5, 2020, 12:17 PM

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yeah, mike is working on that one.

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yeah, mike is working on that one.

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 12:34 PM

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[test_block]
test_value=1
test_value_two=2

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Hmm, that doesn't reproduce https://github.com/python-discord/bot/issues/829.

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[test_block]
test_value=1
test_value_two=2
test_value_three=3

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[test_block]
test_value=1
test_value_two=2
test_value_three=3
test_value_four=4

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!aliases

stable mountainBOT Apr 5, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Configured aliases

• !unwatch => !bigbrother unwatch
• !watch => !bigbrother watch
• !defoff => !defcon disable
• !defon => !defcon enable
• !docs => !docs get
• !reload => !extensions reload
• !get => !get group
• !nominate => !nomination add
• !unnominate => !nomination end
• !nominees => !nominees
• !faq => !site faq
• !home => !site home
• !resources => !site resources
• !rules => !site rules
• !tools => !site tools
• !tags => !tags get

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 12:48 PM

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!exception

stable mountainBOT Apr 5, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Please provide a full traceback to your exception in order for us to identify your issue.

A full traceback could look like:

Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "tiny", line 3, in
        do_something()
    File "tiny", line 2, in do_something
        a = 6 / 0
ZeroDivisionError: integer division or modulo by zero

The best way to read your traceback is bottom to top.

• Identify the exception raised (e.g. ZeroDivisonError)
• Make note of the line number, and navigate there in your program.
• Try to understand why the error occurred.

To read more about exceptions and errors, please refer to the PyDis Wiki or the official Python tutorial.

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 12:48 PM

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!tags

stable mountainBOT Apr 5, 2020, 12:48 PM

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**Current tags**

» args-kwargs
» ask
» class
» classmethod
» codeblock
» decorators
» dictcomps
» enumerate
» except
» exit()
» f-strings
» foo
» functions-are-objects
» global
» if-name-main

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 12:48 PM

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!reload

brazen charm Apr 5, 2020, 12:51 PM

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#bot-commands exists fyi

patent pivot Apr 5, 2020, 12:53 PM

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@sage sparrow I don't think it corrects codeblocks in this channel

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Which channel would be correct Joe?

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@brazen charm Sorry for spamming! Missed that channel.

patent pivot Apr 5, 2020, 12:53 PM

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it does correct in bot commands

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Also, how to test changes to the bot?

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Would you need to have your own testing server?

patent pivot Apr 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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you would, yes

brazen charm Apr 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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yep, you need that for pretty much any dev

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Any dev?

patent pivot Apr 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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you can see the config file to see which channels are required

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@sage sparrow it can be reproduced in bot-commands, see #bot-commands

brazen charm Apr 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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development

patent pivot Apr 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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it didn't trigger here because we don't have it enabled

sage sparrow Apr 5, 2020, 12:54 PM

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I tried it in bot-commands and it seems to work...

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Ah OK, now I see the difference.

clever wraith Apr 5, 2020, 1:47 PM

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should we let channel claimers be able to do !dormant?

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 1:47 PM

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This should good idea

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@gusty sonnet About this apply_infraction, I think we should look what is wins when we total refactor this. When these are really small or nothing, there is no meaning, but when we get something more than just reason string limit, then we can do it.

patent pivot Apr 5, 2020, 1:54 PM

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@clever wraith @cold moon we opted against this, it was discussed during planning

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the reasoning was that if someone opens a question and it is solved, and then someone else comes along and continues the conversation, the original author can shut down a channel which isn't being used by them but is being used by other people

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additionally we do not keep a record of who claimed which channels for simplicity

gusty sonnet Apr 5, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Yeah that's why I suggested a discussion on the PR @cold moon - we can totally truncate the reason we used for discord.py ban and kick and keep apply_infraction the same - it is working fine and will continue to

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For simplicity yeah you can simply truncate the reason used for the coroutine ban and kick - textwrap will do a fine job

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 1:57 PM

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I think I currently use this textwrap solution (I add this to modlog embed too), because how much I looked, I can't find any big wins of refactoring. And when there is plan to refactor, then I think this should in different issue/PR pair.

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But should characters limit in ModLog embed too 512?

gusty sonnet Apr 5, 2020, 2:02 PM

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It shouldn't, the paginator should be able to handle that, I'll take a deeper look into ModLog

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 2:03 PM

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I mean, every modlog channel item not use Paginator?

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This entry

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woeful thorn Apr 5, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Why would we limit the mod log to 512 characters

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Then what should limit? https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/635950537262759947/696292482635268136

woeful thorn Apr 5, 2020, 2:05 PM

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The limit is in the error message

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2048

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 2:07 PM

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I think I have to find good way how to calc how long should entry (I must include other items: member, actor etc. too into limit).

woeful thorn Apr 5, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Why? Just slice the string

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Not force slicing. I use textwrap.shorten to avoid breaking word

woeful thorn Apr 5, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Ok

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That still doesn’t require any calculation

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 2:13 PM

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But should Reason like 1900 chars in ModLog (we need to left enough space for other parameters like Actor, User etc.). Then this is not raising this error.

woeful thorn Apr 5, 2020, 2:16 PM

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They’re all in the same string

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 2:20 PM

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I know. I mean to avoid reaching limit, I must put limit to reason.

        await self.mod_log.send_log_message(
            icon_url=icon,
            colour=Colours.soft_red,
            title=f"Infraction {log_title}: {infr_type}",
            thumbnail=user.avatar_url_as(static_format="png"),
            text=textwrap.dedent(f"""
                Member: {user.mention} (`{user.id}`)
                Actor: {ctx.message.author}{dm_log_text}
                Reason: {textwrap.shorten(reason, width=1900, placeholder="...")} # Changed this
                {expiry_log_text}
            """),
            content=log_content,
            footer=f"ID {infraction['id']}"
        )
``` What should `width` there?

woeful thorn Apr 5, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Why not shorten it in the method that sends the mod log

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 2:21 PM

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OK

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 3:21 PM

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@gusty sonnet I fixed now both errors (action reason + ModLog reason)

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 4:31 PM

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~~I commented on restricted tags PR~~

eternal owl Apr 5, 2020, 4:31 PM

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oh shit

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mb

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what can be a good commit message: cleaner code?

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Maybe (Tags): Removed unnecessary variable creation + joined 2 if statements. This is my commit message style, but maybe something like this?

eternal owl Apr 5, 2020, 4:33 PM

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👍

brazen charm Apr 5, 2020, 4:33 PM

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that's two changes in one commit

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should be 2 commits for two different changes

eternal owl Apr 5, 2020, 4:34 PM

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those are super minor changes

cold moon Apr 5, 2020, 4:34 PM

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I join small commits too

eternal owl Apr 5, 2020, 4:34 PM

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just making the code better, no change in functionality

brazen charm Apr 5, 2020, 4:35 PM

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they're small and related in no way

native yoke Apr 6, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Hey. How could I contribute to the python discord bot?

patent pivot Apr 6, 2020, 12:13 AM

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check for any open issues which take your fancy at https://github.com/python-discord/bot/issues

GitHub

python-discord/bot

The community bot for the Python Discord community - python-discord/bot

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as long as they are unassigned, the issues should describe what we are seeking

native yoke Apr 6, 2020, 12:14 AM

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ok Thanks

patent pivot Apr 6, 2020, 12:14 AM

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these are issues across the entire python-discord organisation which are good first issues https://github.com/issues?q=is%3Aissue+org%3Apython-discord+is%3Aopen+label%3A"good+first+issue"

brazen charm Apr 6, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Just testing rn until I confirm the feature is needed but is
the scheduled task #696490796412567614 160898400 and the done task 160898720 differ. after doing cancel_task and schedule_task right after that a cause for concern?

tawdry vapor Apr 6, 2020, 12:42 AM

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No it isn't

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It's to be expected when you do that

brazen charm Apr 6, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Thanks, the comment there made it seem mostly ok but wasn't sure

gusty sonnet Apr 6, 2020, 3:26 AM

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@valid quest can you resolve the conflicts in https://github.com/python-discord/bot/pull/760? I'll review it after

valid quest Apr 6, 2020, 7:04 AM

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I will need to setup my pc first, I will try to free some time for this

valid quest Apr 6, 2020, 7:32 AM

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Also, This role mention is supposed to be @PyDis Core Developers if im not wrong.

📎 78533025-e3725a00-77f0-11ea-8efe-2656ef5a736e.png

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Its on the contributing page

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https://pythondiscord.com/pages/contributing/

Python Discord | Contributing

We're a large, friendly community focused around the Python programming language. Our community is open to those who wish to learn the language, as well as those looking to help others.

cold moon Apr 6, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Yep, this should

valid quest Apr 6, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Alright, I already opened an issue for that, so feel free to take this one https://github.com/python-discord/site/issues/351

GitHub

Deleted role mention on the Contributing page · Issue #351 · python...

Description This role mention is supposed to be @PyDis Core Developers if im not wrong.

cold moon Apr 6, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Only staff can, because Contributing is wiki page.

valid quest Apr 6, 2020, 8:41 AM

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@gusty sonnet There are a lot of changes, should we just re-write the system in a new branch?

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I think it will be better

gusty sonnet Apr 6, 2020, 8:41 AM

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If it is less of a hassle, sure thing

hardy gorge Apr 6, 2020, 8:49 AM

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@valid quest You should be able to edit wiki pages on the website for small mistakes

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It's obviously a good idea to discuss major changes

valid quest Apr 6, 2020, 8:50 AM

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Oh, cool, how can i do that?

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Just editing the html files, or some other method

hardy gorge Apr 6, 2020, 8:51 AM

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You can login to our website using Discord OAuth (in the "More" menu)

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Once you're logged in and browse to a wiki page, you'll get an edit option

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You can also make new pages

valid quest Apr 6, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Very cool, thank you

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@gusty sonnet , did you work on that error_handler.try_get_tag util? i think we should add the suggestion after trying to get the tag, as we did before that

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Another thing, the sending tag function (tags.display_tag in the pr) returned a value representing if a tag was sent or not, based on that we suggest a command

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I don't see that solution there

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I need to work on something else now, i will get back to this later, i just need more time to understand the changes

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If you are free to work on that, go ahead

green oriole Apr 6, 2020, 9:18 AM

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[akarys@mojito site]$ pipenv run test  
Loading .env environment variables…
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/akarys/.local/share/virtualenvs/site-dBpX_aKW/lib/python3.7/site-packages/environ/environ.py", line 273, in get_value
    value = self.ENVIRON[var]
  File "/home/akarys/.pyenv/versions/3.7.6/lib/python3.7/os.py", line 679, in __getitem__
    raise KeyError(key) from None
KeyError: 'DATABASE_URL'```Do I need to do something else to make the tests to work? I already set `DEBUG=1` in the `.env`

crude gyro Apr 6, 2020, 9:20 AM

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looks like it expects the DATABASE_URL environment variable

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usually the docker environment contains this, iirc

green oriole Apr 6, 2020, 9:22 AM

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Can I run the tests in the container?

crude gyro Apr 6, 2020, 9:22 AM

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yes, but it's not a great idea

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rather, you should have postgres running in a container and then just make sure this environment variable exists and points at your postgres container

green oriole Apr 6, 2020, 9:28 AM

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Okay thanks

cold moon Apr 6, 2020, 10:49 AM

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https://github.com/python-discord/bot/issues/869 This should specify encoding to sys.getdefaultencoding() in read_text.

tawdry vapor Apr 6, 2020, 10:51 AM

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No, it shouldn't. That's already the default behaviour and it caused problems because not all operating systems use an appropriate (Unicode) default

cold moon Apr 6, 2020, 10:51 AM

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ok

sharp timber Apr 6, 2020, 11:52 AM

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@sage sparrow https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/267659945086812160/696688707495002172

green oriole Apr 6, 2020, 12:09 PM

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site_postgres_1 is started, but postgres://pysite:pysite@127.0.0.1:5432/pysite is unreachable

cold moon Apr 6, 2020, 12:10 PM

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@green oriole Port should :7777 when you are running in Docker

green oriole Apr 6, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Oh yeah, that's a weird config, thanks!

cold moon Apr 6, 2020, 4:24 PM

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allow edits from contributors should be Allow edits from maintainers. in SeasonalBot PR template

valid quest Apr 7, 2020, 8:13 AM

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I just invoked !close in one of the help channels, seems to have some weird delay, any of you guys encountered this problem? maybe just a one time thing

green oriole Apr 7, 2020, 8:55 AM

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How long was the delay?

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It is probably the bot being rate limited

timid sentinel Apr 7, 2020, 10:31 AM

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That's happened to me too but it wasn't for too long, I'd say it probably is just rate limiting, yeah.

valid quest Apr 7, 2020, 11:13 AM

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5 seconds iirc, maybe more, and yeah it could be it

valid quest Apr 7, 2020, 11:28 AM

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Happened again now, might be a problem with my internet, but with that amount of channel updates, its probably rate limit

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 11:40 AM

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We are not being rate limited by Discord, but we may be at the stage at which discord.py is trying to keep us within bounds

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There are no rejected/ratelimited reponses from Discord's API at this point, though

green oriole Apr 7, 2020, 11:40 AM

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I mean, that's the goal of d.py, not run into any actual rate limit, but block the async call

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 11:41 AM

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sure

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but it may not always work and receiving a "hard" rate limit from Discord's end wouldn't be good.

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We haven't received those since we introduced the system though, so I'd say we're good.

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If it's just the occasional delay of a few seconds, I'm not too worried yet

green oriole Apr 7, 2020, 11:42 AM

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Maybe we shall make the bot send a typing event while it is moving things around

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 11:43 AM

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I'm not sure if the solution to hitting rate limits is sending even more API requests

green oriole Apr 7, 2020, 11:44 AM

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Rate limits are per events, the general rate limit is way above that

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 11:45 AM

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I'm aware of how rate limits work

green oriole Apr 7, 2020, 11:45 AM

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Oh well, it isn't that high actually

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Maybe we should shard the channel managment then

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 11:49 AM

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sharding is guild-based, is it not?

timid sentinel Apr 7, 2020, 11:50 AM

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This is one time it happened. Discord seemed to have a bit of a moment. https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/696433231222013952/696765443830186087

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Yes, that was not related to rate limits, but rather a short outage overal

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Discord returned 500 responses to our bot

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and to my client as well

molten bough Apr 7, 2020, 11:51 AM

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sharding is guild-based, yeah

green oriole Apr 7, 2020, 11:58 AM

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Apparently !d list.index said no

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I feel like this cog could serve some improvements

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 12:01 PM

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It's probably because list.index does not exist in the library reference

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only in the tutorial

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The only list method that exists in the langauge reference is list.sort

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that one should work

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!d get list.sort

stable mountainBOT Apr 7, 2020, 12:01 PM

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`list.sort`

sort(*, key=None, reverse=False)```
This method sorts the list in place, using only `<` comparisons between items. Exceptions are not suppressed - if any comparison operations fail, the entire sort operation will fail (and the list will likely be left in a partially modified state).

[`sort()`](#list.sort "list.sort") accepts two arguments that can only be passed by keyword ([keyword-only arguments](../glossary.html#keyword-only-parameter)):

*key* specifies a function of one argument that is used to extract a comparison key from each list element (for example, `key=str.lower`). The key corresponding to each item in the list is calculated once and then used for the entire sorting process. The default value of `None` means that list items are sorted directly without calculating a separate key value.

The [`functools.cmp_to_key()`](functools.html#functools.cmp_to_key "functools.cmp_to_key") utility is available to convert a 2.x style *cmp* function to a *key* function.... [read more](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#list.sort)

brazen charm Apr 7, 2020, 12:04 PM

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lists are weird and don't have proper permalinks because they are under data structures

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I'm planning to work on some improvements but we can't really get those programmatically

green oriole Apr 7, 2020, 12:06 PM

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It might be silly, but we could get those through list.sort.__doc__ in an eval

brazen charm Apr 7, 2020, 12:07 PM

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the docs are following a different pattern there though so you could try opening an issue

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 12:08 PM

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Isn't it just that for lists, the individual methods are listed in the tutorial section of the documentation, while for other data structures, they're listed in the library reference?

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That sort method is the only list method in the library reference and it works

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Something like dict.items is also in the library reference, not the tutorial

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And it works as well

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list is a bit special in that most of the methods are explained in the tutorial, but not in the library reference

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e.g., !docs get range will get you the library reference for range, not the entry in the tutorial

brazen charm Apr 7, 2020, 12:17 PM

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yeah but they seem to be the only structure which is like that, I don't see anthing linking to that page from the actual reference

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and the missing permalinks are I guess becaues of where they are but those are the only cases that I'm aware of currently

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 12:20 PM

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The other data structures don't have their method explanations in the tutorial

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Look at dict.items for instance, it will point to the library reference

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!docs get dict.items

stable mountainBOT Apr 7, 2020, 12:20 PM

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`dict.items`

items()```
Return a new view of the dictionary’s items (`(key, value)` pairs). See the [documentation of view objects](#dict-views).

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 12:21 PM

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That's why it works. List, as far as I can see, is the only common type that has its methods explained in the tutorial, not the library reference

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The list.sort method is also the only list method that is explained in the library reference

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and that's why it works, as the only list method

brazen charm Apr 7, 2020, 12:22 PM

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it would work if those permalinks were in place (exist in the inventory) but the pattern of how the docs are structured is broken for some reason

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maybe lists are a datatype they wanmted to show more in detail while someone goes through it?

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 12:22 PM

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I think it's because those links don't exist for the tutorial part of the docs

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I haven't seen a single !docs get point to the tutorials

brazen charm Apr 7, 2020, 12:26 PM

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I can find some tut-x symbols in the inventory dump but I don't really know which have the tut and which do not

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ah it's tut-morelists

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 12:27 PM

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ah

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that works

brazen charm Apr 7, 2020, 12:27 PM

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but the methods themselves are missing anything that would be included in the inv

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 12:27 PM

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!docs get tut-lists

stable mountainBOT Apr 7, 2020, 12:27 PM

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`tut-lists`

This appears to be a generic page not tied to a specific symbol.

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 12:27 PM

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yes

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It's a bit silly that they are only explained in the tutorial instead of in the actual reference part of the documentation

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I can see why you'd want to prevent duplicating the docs

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but, for other common types like dict and set, it just links to the reference

brazen charm Apr 7, 2020, 12:30 PM

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they could at least link there from the reference so you can get to the methods from it, I'll make an issue for that when I get the time as I have been going to the wrong page a few times when searching for something with them

cold moon Apr 7, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Why I'm getting TypeError: 'staticmethod' object is not callable https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ebuxeqituy.py ?

brazen charm Apr 7, 2020, 2:14 PM

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it's a raw descriptor while inside a class

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you can leave out the staticmethod and it should work, or create a holder class for the decorators

cold moon Apr 7, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Okay, I moved this out from class, removed staticmethod and now everything works

cold moon Apr 7, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Should tic-tac-toe board like this?

📎 Screenshot_2020-04-07_at_19.39.12.png

brazen charm Apr 7, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Any staff have an opinion on this? https://github.com/python-discord/bot/pull/868#issuecomment-610482938 Should we just let them wait out when the permissions don't change but the channel goes dormant, send a message to modlog or some other type of handling?

GitHub

Implement help system feedback. by Numerlor · Pull Request #868 · p...

closes: #867
Implements the requested feedback from the linked issue for the dormant command, allowing claimants to close their own channel, restore their send permissions to available channels and...

neat sentinel Apr 7, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Hello my group is working on one the issues on github and we wanted to know how would you guys go about testing a new command

patent pivot Apr 7, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Hey there, which issue are you working on?

neat sentinel Apr 7, 2020, 5:03 PM

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the unban issue

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adding a reasoning ot it

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to it*

patent pivot Apr 7, 2020, 5:05 PM

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so have you got both sides developed? the site & the bot?

neat sentinel Apr 7, 2020, 5:07 PM

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I am not sure what you mean by that but what we have done is someone can do the unban command with an reason like "!unban user reason"

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and it logs into the log where all the commands output goes

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if theres more to it, then I may not understand all the aspects of the project yet

tawdry vapor Apr 7, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Well the reason needs to be stored on our database, but our current schema doesn't support storing separate ban and unban reasons.

neat sentinel Apr 7, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I see

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is there a local database file to work with or is it on a server

tawdry vapor Apr 7, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I made an issue to discuss redesigning the schema but it hasn't gotten any traction https://github.com/python-discord/site/issues/345

GitHub

Redesign infractions schema · Issue #345 · python-discord/site

Current problems The current design has some limitations. It cannot store a separate actor, timestamp, or reason for pardoning infractions. For the reason field, the current workaround used by Big ...

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You can read our contributing guide to learn how to set up postgres and our site locally

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https://pythondiscord.com/pages/contributing/

Python Discord | Contributing

We're a large, friendly community focused around the Python programming language. Our community is open to those who wish to learn the language, as well as those looking to help others.

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If you're working on this you should have let us know by leaving a comment on the relevant issues.

neat sentinel Apr 7, 2020, 5:10 PM

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oh I posted this to my teams group channel. One of the guys work with databases before.

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okay

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this is a school project but we plan to do that later.

tawdry vapor Apr 7, 2020, 5:13 PM

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This hasn't all been fleshed out yet so there needs to be a discussion on how to go about implementing it

neat sentinel Apr 7, 2020, 5:13 PM

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the unban change or changing the database schema?

tawdry vapor Apr 7, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Mostly the site/database side of it. I think the bot side is pretty straight forward.

neat sentinel Apr 7, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Gotchu, we'll discuss about it later, but thank you for your help Mark

tawdry vapor Apr 7, 2020, 5:16 PM

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You're welcome

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To be clear, this discussion should be with everyone, not internal to your team. So leave comments on the issue or discuss here with us.

neat sentinel Apr 7, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Understood

clever wraith Apr 7, 2020, 6:26 PM

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is this the right place to talk about the help-channel bot code?

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 6:29 PM

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This channel is for discussion our projects, yeah

clever wraith Apr 7, 2020, 6:29 PM

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OK

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So I think I found an issue

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if a user activates a channel, then deletes their message, as far as i can tell, the bot doesn't ever move the channel to dormant?

# move_idle_channel
 if time_elapsed is None or time_elapsed >= idle_seconds:

# get_last_message
return await channel.history(limit=1).next()  # noqa: B305

If I am right, I think a solution would be to check if the last message was from the bot, and reduce the elapsed time to 5 mins or something

mellow hare Apr 7, 2020, 6:34 PM

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The issue with that would be if someone uses a tag command and then the channel sits for a few minutes

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That'd give a false positive and toss it to dormant

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 6:34 PM

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There's always a last message in the channel; either the user message or, if deleted, the bot embed

clever wraith Apr 7, 2020, 6:35 PM

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so the history exists even if deleted?

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 6:35 PM

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there's history, not the user message itself, but it will get the bot's message before that (with the embed in it)

clever wraith Apr 7, 2020, 6:36 PM

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oh, so i'm right, then it's just checking the bot embed

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 6:36 PM

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If there is no message, the time_elapsed will be None and we'd still move the channel to dormant

clever wraith Apr 7, 2020, 6:36 PM

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that makes it an unused channel effectively

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 6:37 PM

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It typically shouldn't occur; having a channel in occupied that has no history in it whatsoever should not happen organically

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but even if it does, we move the channel to dormant since there's obviously nothing going on in the channel

clever wraith Apr 7, 2020, 6:38 PM

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the available message occurs when the channel moves to the available queue

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now imagine it's there for 2 hrs

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and someone activates it

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then deletes their message

cold moon Apr 7, 2020, 6:38 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/635950537262759947/697123448090001448 Sorry for asking again, but is this good way to show board?

mellow hare Apr 7, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Right, but he's saying that there is still always going to be a message in there from the previous session or from the bot

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 6:38 PM

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@clever wraith Yes, that means the channel would be moved as soon as the check occurs

mellow hare Apr 7, 2020, 6:38 PM

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So there is still a last message to check

hardy gorge Apr 7, 2020, 6:38 PM

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The check occurs after the initial delay, which is 30 minutes

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So, the channel would sit there unused for 30 minutes (or until a helper+ closes it)

clever wraith Apr 7, 2020, 6:39 PM

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understood

tough imp Apr 7, 2020, 6:41 PM

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@cold moon I think it's ok, but what would it look like in a codeblock?

clever wraith Apr 7, 2020, 6:42 PM

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@cold moon are you able to use these? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box-drawing_character

cold moon Apr 7, 2020, 6:59 PM

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@clever wraith when i put anything between them, emojis will be really small

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Like

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1️⃣

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1️⃣ |

gusty sonnet Apr 7, 2020, 7:00 PM

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You can put a \ in front of it as well, it'll revert to the unicode emoji

cold moon Apr 7, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Okay

gusty sonnet Apr 7, 2020, 7:01 PM

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like 🔥 and \🔥

tough imp Apr 7, 2020, 7:01 PM

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i don't mind the small ones

eternal owl Apr 8, 2020, 3:29 PM

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https://github.com/python-discord/bot/pull/866
Can anyone reivew this PR plz, really small one, shouldn't take long 😄

tawdry vapor Apr 8, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Sure, I'll get on it

eternal owl Apr 8, 2020, 4:06 PM

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thanks!

valid quest Apr 9, 2020, 12:19 PM

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I'm sure that topic is already been discussed here, but are we planning to do something with the massive bot changes that discord are bringing soon?
(more explained here https://blog.discordapp.com/the-future-of-bots-on-discord-4e6e050ab52e)

glass pecan Apr 9, 2020, 12:20 PM

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yeppers

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already submitted my verification

valid quest Apr 9, 2020, 12:20 PM

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nice! which bot?

glass pecan Apr 9, 2020, 12:20 PM

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just some eve online botto

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nothing fancy

valid quest Apr 9, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Oh i think i know him, nice

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How many users?

glass pecan Apr 9, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Firetail it's called. It's in the middle of a rewrite as I inherited a fair amount of code debt after taking the project over.

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Um

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lemme check

valid quest Apr 9, 2020, 12:21 PM

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but anyways i was talking about @stable mountain bot, we can make the ui better with these changes, and much more

hardy gorge Apr 9, 2020, 12:21 PM

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This is not relevant for our projects here, right? Since we're not even close the underlimit of 75 guilds with any of our bots.

glass pecan Apr 9, 2020, 12:21 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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And correct ves

valid quest Apr 9, 2020, 12:22 PM

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@hardy gorge Yeah, but i was talking about the massive ui/ux changes that discord brings

glass pecan Apr 9, 2020, 12:22 PM

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the ui/ux changes is nice but far off yet

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gotta get intents sorted first

valid quest Apr 9, 2020, 12:22 PM

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Nice! mine has around the same amount and i didn't submit yet, big oof

glass pecan Apr 9, 2020, 12:22 PM

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those changes though will be closer to extensions, it seems

valid quest Apr 9, 2020, 12:22 PM

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Mhm

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alright then

glass pecan Apr 9, 2020, 12:23 PM

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and instead of using msg prefixes, it'll use the backslash commands

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which feels pree weird

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at least it means auto-complete will be a thing for bot commands

cold moon Apr 9, 2020, 12:24 PM

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I think there will be something like clicking to message and bot can do actions with it and something like these changes.

glass pecan Apr 9, 2020, 12:24 PM

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i'm most keen for the interaction ui changes with actual ui elements

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and the context actions

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those two together are sweet

valid quest Apr 9, 2020, 12:24 PM

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i agree

hardy gorge Apr 9, 2020, 12:30 PM

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How I see it is that we've seen a sneak preview of things they're working on, but I don't have a clue what it will actually mean for us and @stable mountain

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That means there's not much to plan yet

valid quest Apr 9, 2020, 12:56 PM

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yeah

brazen charm Apr 9, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Managed to miss and discard the config change when merging through pycharm in here https://github.com/python-discord/bot/pull/868/commits/c5fae2e831776f74b8b33fcf13c2d139f803fb40
anything I can do to fix that without messing up the history by adding a commit or something?

hardy gorge Apr 9, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Good question. That commit is already a bit up in the commit history, isn't it?

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I'm not awfully attached to the git blame history of that particular constant though

cold moon Apr 9, 2020, 2:27 PM

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YES! Finally initial TicTacToe work. Now I have to make system that check for winning

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Currently I play with myself, but I think this should be disabled. I use this only for testing.

📎 Screenshot_2020-04-09_at_17.29.27.png

cold moon Apr 9, 2020, 3:45 PM

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I have problem: textwrap.shorten is removing newlines from string. How to make this that this don't remove newlines?

gusty sonnet Apr 9, 2020, 3:58 PM

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It has a keyword @cold moon

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replace_whitespace=False```iirc

brazen charm Apr 9, 2020, 4:03 PM

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@hardy gorge Will you push it in or should I do it normally with copying the initial commit message?

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The inclusion of emojis into channel names also breaks logging on windows because of encoding again, should I throw in a fix with the open PR?

cold moon Apr 9, 2020, 4:08 PM

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ok, thanks

frozen galleon Apr 9, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Hi I'm creating my own bot project and I'd like to use some files from your Python Bot's github repository, so I was wondering if this copyright notice in my LICENCE.md is sufficient for that, since it is licenced under MIT, or if I should also mention it in some other places, or somehow adjust the licence:

https://github.com/koumakpet/CommandBot/blob/master/LICENSE.md

GitHub

koumakpet/CommandBot

Contribute to koumakpet/CommandBot development by creating an account on GitHub.

hardy gorge Apr 9, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Our bot has an MIT license, so I see no issue with it

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Good luck with your bot by the way

frozen galleon Apr 9, 2020, 4:23 PM

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okay, thank you than 🙂

cold moon Apr 9, 2020, 4:40 PM

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FINALLY! Human vs human Tic Tac Toe is ready. Now is only AI

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@gusty sonnet This is not working. This still remove newlines

gusty sonnet Apr 9, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Ah I see, I'm reading the docs for it

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replace_whitespace has no effect for shorten

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Hmm, you may need to wrap manually

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By default shorten will collapse all whitespace, including newlines

cold moon Apr 9, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Huh, this will be hard

gusty sonnet Apr 9, 2020, 5:10 PM

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It will take a bit of effort, like this

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!e ```py
import textwrap

string = '\n'.join(map(str, range(1000)))

shortened = textwrap.wrap(
string, width=10, placeholder='...',
replace_whitespace=False, break_long_words=False,
max_lines=1
)[0]
print(shortened)

stable mountainBOT Apr 9, 2020, 5:10 PM

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@gusty sonnet :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 0
002 | 1
003 | 2
004 | 3...

gusty sonnet Apr 9, 2020, 5:14 PM

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idk if creating a TextWrapper will make this less of a hassle

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You can also wrap manually via slicing lol

cold moon Apr 9, 2020, 5:15 PM

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I have to do this in only one place: ModLog.send_log_message

cold moon Apr 10, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Should tic-tac-toe AI easily beatable or should this almost/totally unbeatable?

green oriole Apr 10, 2020, 7:22 AM

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I’d say in the middle?

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or configurable

cold moon Apr 10, 2020, 7:25 AM

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Then middle. Because I have to select which logic to use (every logic have it's own level) so configurable will mean more code for every level.

green oriole Apr 10, 2020, 7:26 AM

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I mean, it could be a fun thing to implement all of them

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I can help you if you want, it sounds like a fun thing to do

cold moon Apr 10, 2020, 7:29 AM

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I can find about this so much sites in web, but my way to storage board is little different: https://github.com/ks129/seasonalbot/tree/tic-tac-toe

clever wraith Apr 10, 2020, 2:00 PM

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not to sound picky

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📎 unknown.png

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error handler for @dusky shore have this spelling mistake

clever wraith Apr 11, 2020, 5:26 AM

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its, not it's

tawdry vapor Apr 11, 2020, 6:13 AM

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AG, you're welcome to fix any spelling mistakes you find.

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It's not being picky, at least not in this case. It's pretty clearly incorrect.

crimson tinsel Apr 11, 2020, 11:11 PM

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So I am trying to be more involved here, and I am looking at the issues for the bot and I am trying to understand some of the issues better so I can join the planning process. For !ping command #697 what is it actually asking to do?

tawdry vapor Apr 11, 2020, 11:13 PM

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I thought the issue explains it pretty clearly

crimson tinsel Apr 11, 2020, 11:14 PM

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for the bot latency, does it mean on startup or when the command is sent?

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sorry still new to the discord bot realm

tawdry vapor Apr 11, 2020, 11:15 PM

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The time between when the message was sent (users need to send a message to invoke a command) and when the bot detects the message as a command.

crimson tinsel Apr 11, 2020, 11:15 PM

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is there a way to get the timestamp of when a message was sent?

tawdry vapor Apr 11, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Yes, but I don't remember the exact name of the attribute

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create_at or something

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it's documented.

crimson tinsel Apr 11, 2020, 11:16 PM

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ahhh okay, still learning lol thanks 🙂

patent pivot Apr 11, 2020, 11:16 PM

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!int e ctx.message.created_at

stable mountainBOT Apr 11, 2020, 11:16 PM

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In [17]: ctx.message.created_at
Out[17]: 
datetime.datetime(2020, 4, 11, 23, 16, 21, 549000)```

eternal owl Apr 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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@tawdry vapor I have gone for this approach

parent_folder = file.parent
if not str(parent_folder).endswith("tags"):
    tag_index = str(parent_folder).index("tags")
    sub_folder = str(parent_folder)[tag_index+5:] # +5 because len("tags/") = 5
    tag["restricted_to"] = sub_folder```
this should be cross platform hopefully.(I cannot test it on windows.)
Here `file` is pathlib.Path object

tawdry vapor Apr 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Why use string manipulation?

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I find it less hacky to stick to pathlib's .parent and .parents

eternal owl Apr 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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for .parent and .parents, will it be forword slash / even for windows device?

tawdry vapor Apr 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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I don't get your question but if you are using solely pathlib then you need not concern yourself with slashes.

brazen charm Apr 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Or outside of it too because windows can handle them, but pathlib has no concern with slashes and mostly out of string methods

eternal owl Apr 13, 2020, 6:24 PM

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okay

tawdry vapor Apr 13, 2020, 6:25 PM

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It could be as simple as list(file.parents)[-4].stem to get the restricted_to value. I don't know if -4 is the correct index but you get the idea.

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I think you'd need to still check that it's a directory rather than a file

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Well, name is more appropriate than stem

eternal owl Apr 13, 2020, 6:33 PM

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okay, will look into that

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thanks!

neat sentinel Apr 14, 2020, 12:41 AM

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quick question, how does the bot find where all the commands are once its called? like in the help command

brazen charm Apr 14, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Do you mean the cogs with "where they are"?

neat sentinel Apr 14, 2020, 12:44 AM

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yea

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like which file is it from

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alot of them are the same name as the command but some aren't

brazen charm Apr 14, 2020, 12:47 AM

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I believe the discordpy builtin base of the command gets that but you can check here https://github.com/python-discord/bot/blob/master/bot/cogs/help.py (or here for a refactor https://github.com/python-discord/bot/blob/7a02ea8d35628e92ede20f6f1b93418a105040c2/bot/cogs/help.py )

exotic ember Apr 14, 2020, 8:16 AM

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does the bot delete the message manually marking a channel dormant?

crude gyro Apr 14, 2020, 8:16 AM

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yes

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that was implemented recently

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and is still being evaluated

exotic ember Apr 14, 2020, 8:18 AM

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if someone mentions that their help channel was marked dormant before they were done with it, it would be good to know if it was because someone manually made it dormant, or an error with the activity checker

crude gyro Apr 14, 2020, 8:18 AM

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hmm, valid point

exotic ember Apr 14, 2020, 8:18 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/696277603082043412/699532938366418965

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I had to go look at the config to see the inactivity limit, which should be 30 minutes?

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and is there / should there be an !undormant command?

crude gyro Apr 14, 2020, 8:28 AM

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30 minutes, yeah

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we don't really want users executing an !undormant at least, we want channels to expire - but to make something like that available to staff only? I don't know, maybe.

exotic ember Apr 14, 2020, 8:29 AM

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I was thinking a command for Helper+, incase someone mistakenly dormants a channel only to realize there's still activity going on

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also thoughts on a custom dormant message based on whether it was marked manually or automatically? I can create issues for both

crude gyro Apr 14, 2020, 8:33 AM

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<@&587606783669829632> how do you guys feel about these two ideas cuneiform_this

tranquil topaz Apr 14, 2020, 8:37 AM

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like an !undo command?

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i like the idea

exotic ember Apr 14, 2020, 8:38 AM

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yep, but specifically to undo a channel made dormant

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unrelated to the !undo issue in bot right now

crude gyro Apr 14, 2020, 8:39 AM

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there's an undo issue? I thought that idea was met with a bunch of resistance

exotic ember Apr 14, 2020, 8:39 AM

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it's still up, not much discussion there

tranquil topaz Apr 14, 2020, 8:39 AM

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yes, but i did not mean to comment on that issue

exotic ember Apr 14, 2020, 8:39 AM

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I personally do not like the idea of that, so I'll put in a few words

tranquil topaz Apr 14, 2020, 8:39 AM

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my !undo comment was very much in the general way

crude gyro Apr 14, 2020, 8:40 AM

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yeah no this is specifically for undoing !dormant invocations though, @tranquil topaz

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but yes

tranquil topaz Apr 14, 2020, 8:40 AM

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!undoclose and !undodormant is fine if you want 😄

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i hate writing dormant.. i always have to think to write it correctly 😄

crude gyro Apr 14, 2020, 8:40 AM

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!undormant and !open, maybe

tranquil topaz Apr 14, 2020, 8:41 AM

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!awake !open

crude gyro Apr 14, 2020, 8:43 AM

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I'm fine with both suggestions, @exotic ember

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just, for the record.

exotic ember Apr 14, 2020, 8:43 AM

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coolio

crude gyro Apr 14, 2020, 8:43 AM

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I'm sure some of the other core devs will chime in with an opinion later

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but you can just open the issues

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and post them here

exotic ember Apr 14, 2020, 8:43 AM

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will do

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Issues are in!

dusky shoreBOT Apr 14, 2020, 8:58 AM

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GitHub

IssueOpen [bot] #879 Feature: !undormant

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GitHub

IssueOpen [bot] #880 Enhancement: Differentiate dormant message between automatic and manual invocation

hardy gorge Apr 14, 2020, 9:00 AM

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I think that the latter should be solved by reversing the change that introduced the deletion of the message containing the command

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It's now obvious that it leads to confusion and having the message there with the command invocation is far more obvious than changing a line in an embed

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In this case, the user who opened the channel closed it themselves

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If we just leave the command invocation out in the open, there's no confusion

exotic ember Apr 14, 2020, 9:01 AM

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good idea

clever wraith Apr 14, 2020, 1:05 PM

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I think that the latter should be solved by reversing the change that introduced the deletion of the message containing the command
@hardy gorge you could also have a bot message with "This channel was closed by <Name>" if you don't want command spam, as a suggestion

cold moon Apr 14, 2020, 1:18 PM

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This should in dormant message

mellow hare Apr 14, 2020, 1:35 PM

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What would be the one for a timeout?

eternal owl Apr 14, 2020, 1:35 PM

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https://github.com/python-discord/bot/pull/866/commits/8bf1df9438ecf456b02725e3f9689c5bd885b2a7
I faked up this commit message, clicked on commit before I could finish the message, hope its fine (I was just commiting a suggestion given in the comments).

clever wraith Apr 14, 2020, 1:47 PM

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@mellow hare maybe:
This channel has been marked as dormant: closed by user <Name>.
This channel has been marked as dormant: timeout due to inactivity.

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It doesn't have to be overly complicated

mellow hare Apr 14, 2020, 1:47 PM

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True enough

cold moon Apr 14, 2020, 4:11 PM

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About these moderation tests, how should I test apply_ban? This have role position check decorator, what raise error: TypeError: '>=' not supported between instances of 'MockRole' and 'MockRole'

hollow cedar Apr 14, 2020, 5:51 PM

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I like the idea of !open, it would go well with the existing dormant alias !close and would be easy to remember. I think the need might be a bit niche, but in cases where a channel was mistakenly closed it would be quite useful.

green oriole Apr 14, 2020, 6:03 PM

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@cold moon you should just write the appropriate dunder of the MockRole class

mellow hare Apr 14, 2020, 6:05 PM

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So is the reasoning for !open to reopen a dormant channel to keep the context?

green oriole Apr 14, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I think yeah

cold moon Apr 14, 2020, 6:27 PM

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@green oriole i already found easier solution: I use ints instead role mock

green oriole Apr 14, 2020, 7:54 PM

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I don't think that's a good solution

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The function is meant to get roles as an argument, not ints

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If in the future we change the function to use dome role attribute, like the color for whatever reason, the test will break even if the code still function properly

cold moon Apr 15, 2020, 5:52 AM

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How to extract args/kwargs from coroutine?

hardy gorge Apr 15, 2020, 5:54 AM

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What do you mean by extract? Can you give an example of what you mean?

cold moon Apr 15, 2020, 5:56 AM

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I'm writing tests for reason shortening:

action = ctx.guild.ban(user, reason=truncated_reason, delete_message_days=0)
await self.apply_infraction(ctx, infraction, user, action)

and now in tests:

has_active_mock.return_value = False
post_infraction_mock.return_value = {'foo': 'bar'}
self.cog.apply_infraction = AsyncMock()
self.bot.get_cog.return_value = AsyncMock()
await self.cog.apply_ban(self.ctx, self.target, "foo bar" * 3000)
ban = self.cog.apply_infraction.call_args[0][3]

I have to get access to action's reason.

tawdry vapor Apr 15, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Maybe ban_coro.cr_frame.f_locals but man is that hacky. I'm not familiar with internals too much so IDK if there could be more in that dict besides the argument values but I suspect yes, though doesn't seem like it'd matter.

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Also inspect.getargvalues(ban_coro.cr_frame) works but I don't really see the benefits of using inspect over attribute access. I also didn't see a way to get the frame for a coroutine with inspect.

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That being said, is there not a way to just check it while asserting the await?

cold moon Apr 15, 2020, 6:25 AM

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This will be awaited in self.cog.apply_infraction, but this is AsyncMock in this case.

tawdry vapor Apr 15, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Hmm right

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Well this all wasn't written very well by me

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It was just meant to clean up the really mess code that came before it

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Wasn't designed with testability in mind so i think that will work against you a lot here

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The plan was to give moderation a proper rewrite, probably some OOP based system for infractions.

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But nothing came of that

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So uh, just beware all ye who enter

cold moon Apr 15, 2020, 6:28 AM

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I currently do this with cr_frame.f_locals. This is currently easiest way and when system get rewrited, this can be changed.

gusty sonnet Apr 15, 2020, 6:29 AM

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I mean, you can open an issue on that Mark

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So we can start with what everyone thinks about it, and who wants to take it

tawdry vapor Apr 15, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Well what I am trying to say is I don't think it's the best idea to tackle writing tests (a significant effort in this case) for something that is not very testable and will hopefully, eventually, be replaced. But you can proceed if you wish. Just know what you're getting yourself into.

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Yeah I will get around to opening an issue. I just haven't since I was waiting for some more concrete plans/design ideas.

cold moon Apr 15, 2020, 6:33 AM

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https://paste.pythondiscord.com/okavuhevuv.py I have 2 problems (warnings)

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I'm writing tests only for reasons shortening currently, not for full cog

dry topaz Apr 15, 2020, 7:23 AM

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Can somebody explain me how the timed mute works on @stable mountain?

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I've been in it for a day, I can't find ANYTHING out

glass pecan Apr 15, 2020, 7:23 AM

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mute infraction is put in a db and the muted role given to the user

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then a task is started that removes the role when it's datetime of expiry is reached

dry topaz Apr 15, 2020, 7:24 AM

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Which db do y'all use?

glass pecan Apr 15, 2020, 7:24 AM

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the bot on starting retrieves any active mutes from the database, and reschedules the task to remove them at the right datetime again, so it's persistent

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we use postgresql

dry topaz Apr 15, 2020, 7:25 AM

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Where do you host it?

glass pecan Apr 15, 2020, 7:25 AM

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on our server?

dry topaz Apr 15, 2020, 7:25 AM

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I need to get a bit more into db

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Your server?

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How is it made?

glass pecan Apr 15, 2020, 7:26 AM

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i don't understand the question. a server is just a computer that can access the internet and host web services

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we use Linode as our server host

dry topaz Apr 15, 2020, 7:26 AM

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What plan?

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Like, how much does it cost?

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I have a budget of $15 a month 😛

glass pecan Apr 15, 2020, 7:27 AM

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there's multiple different options for VPS plans. You're better off going to the host site and checking what's available from them and what might be suitable for your own usage.

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if you want to ask general hosting questions, feel free to in #414737889352744971 perhaps

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otherwise any off-topic for super general questions will do and plenty will likely be able to pitch in

dry topaz Apr 15, 2020, 7:29 AM

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Can a db be hosted somewhere for free?

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Or is it not allowed to ask for that stuff in here?

glass pecan Apr 15, 2020, 7:30 AM

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it's not really on topic for here, no

cold moon Apr 16, 2020, 5:21 AM

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How to remove https://paste.pythondiscord.com/okavuhevuv.py ?

green oriole Apr 16, 2020, 10:00 AM

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You forgot to await a coroutine

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See the first line

cold moon Apr 16, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Yeah. I don't really need to await it for this test, but I added awaiting to end to avoid warning

neat sentinel Apr 16, 2020, 12:22 PM

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hello, I was wondering. What database driver it uses to access postgres in the program during runtime?

hardy gorge Apr 16, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Our bot? It does not connect to the database directly but rather communicates with a REST API on our website.

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The database connection there is managed by Django's built-in ORM and database functionality

neat sentinel Apr 16, 2020, 12:27 PM

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oh I see thank you

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it wouldn't be possible to make any local database changes for development purposes? all the changes need to be done through those who manage the API?

cold moon Apr 16, 2020, 12:31 PM

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What you try to do? This may be possible to be done without direct DB editing.

neat sentinel Apr 16, 2020, 12:33 PM

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I wanted to cache API request so I wouldn't run into issues where I run out of requests

cold moon Apr 16, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Out of requests?

neat sentinel Apr 16, 2020, 12:33 PM

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I can do this locally, but I thought because there was already a database it can be done there

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yea for github API to get link to github repo and modules

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how come when we use the docker it the container is called postgres when maria db is used? how does postgres interact here

cold moon Apr 16, 2020, 12:43 PM

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What? I don't understand this anymore

hardy gorge Apr 16, 2020, 12:44 PM

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I'm not sure either

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We're using a Postgresql database

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Can you clarify what you're talking about, @neat sentinel?

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I think there's some kind of misunderstanding

neat sentinel Apr 16, 2020, 12:46 PM

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sorry I read that wrong I thought maria db was associated with django for an moment

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but I understand now thanks

eternal owl Apr 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

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https://github.com/python-discord/site
Can I clone this repo as I am contributor or should I fork it?

GitHub

python-discord/site

pythondiscord.com - A Django and Bulma web application. - python-discord/site

crude gyro Apr 17, 2020, 10:41 AM

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<@&295488872404484098> <@&587606783669829632>

I've done a major clean-up of the branding repo, scrubbing the history for huge files and force pushing the history rewrite to master, as well as getting rid of old branches. This has reduced the repo size to about 50MiB, down from nearly 300MiB.

However, because of the history rewrite, everyone who has this repo cloned should just delete their clone and clone a fresh one.

Going forward, let's try to keep this repo only to asset files that are directly useful to us, and related to this community. So, no memes, no project files (like PSDs), no compressed archives, nothing like that. Just PNGs, GIFs, SVGs, MP3s, and so on.

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oh actually, some of the <@&267630620367257601> may have this cloned without having the Contributor role. You guys should see this too. cuneiform_this

ornate moat Apr 17, 2020, 10:46 AM

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Do you have git LFS

crude gyro Apr 17, 2020, 10:46 AM

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no, and I don't think we really need it for what this repo should be used for.

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we have cloud.pydis.com for huge stuff

hardy gorge Apr 17, 2020, 10:47 AM

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I'd still add SVGs to the list of files we want

crude gyro Apr 17, 2020, 10:47 AM

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oh yeah

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of course

hardy gorge Apr 17, 2020, 10:47 AM

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Some people may consider those akin to PSD project files, as they're usually the source for the actual prod png files

crude gyro Apr 17, 2020, 10:47 AM

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yes.

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you can import an svg right into your vector software and it more or less works as a project file

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not quite as nice but at a fraction of the size.

green oriole Apr 17, 2020, 10:48 AM

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I think we should still have psd files if we want to modify them later on

ornate moat Apr 17, 2020, 10:48 AM

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we have cloud.pydis.com for huge stuff
yes, you can set up LFS like this.

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LFS just stores text pointers to the files and then you can fetch them from the LFS storage unit

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if deemed necessary

crude gyro Apr 17, 2020, 10:49 AM

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yeah, I'm aware. we just haven't really deemed it necessary yet

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the only thing we were really using PSDs for were my silly backgrounds

green oriole Apr 17, 2020, 10:50 AM

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PyDis cloud isn't public though

crude gyro Apr 17, 2020, 10:50 AM

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and of course, I haven't deleted these PSDs and don't intend to, but I don't think they need to be in branding

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no, pydis cloud isn't public. nor will it ever be.

green oriole Apr 17, 2020, 10:52 AM

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My point wasn't about making it public, it was about making source psd files open to the world

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You are just restricting contributions even more like this

crude gyro Apr 17, 2020, 10:54 AM

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Yep. There are still SVGs, I don't really see the problem.

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what exactly do you think we need PSDs for?

green oriole Apr 17, 2020, 10:55 AM

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Ah that's fair then

crude gyro Apr 17, 2020, 10:57 AM

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the difference is that a PSD can be over 100MB while an svg is hardly even 10kB

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and we're working with vector on 90% of the stuff we make

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(it would be 100% if not for me)

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besides, even with LFS we still have store them somewhere

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and cloud.pydis.com doesn't have infinite storage space

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but if we see the need for large files we'll revist the LFS idea in the future, I'm sure.

green oriole Apr 17, 2020, 11:02 AM

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I don't understand, GitHub can host LFS files

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Why would you store them on the pydis cloud then?

crude gyro Apr 17, 2020, 11:40 AM

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I'm not saying we would, it came up earlier.

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anyway we don't need LFS if we're not gonna put big files in it, and right now the plan is to not put big files in it so why are we talking about LFS. We'll revisit it if we need large files.

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the way I understand LFS (and that understanding is very limited), people have to set it up locally

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so it's almost like a pre-commit hook, then, and ensuring that that actually gets done is another problem to solve.

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but maybe there's some mechanism to make it impossible to push a large file? I don't know.

patent pivot Apr 17, 2020, 2:18 PM

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I don't think we could use LFS

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I recall there being like an 8GB file, LFS maxes out at 2GB and also has a 1GB limit without a data package iirc

exotic ember Apr 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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thoughts? emoji is subject to change

📎 IMG-20200418-WA0000.jpg

cold moon Apr 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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What is this?

exotic ember Apr 18, 2020, 5:15 AM

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source command embed

tawdry vapor Apr 18, 2020, 5:26 AM

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What the difference between linking to the cog and the module?

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I don't think the cog is too relevant especially given that, in practice, the modules have similar names to the cogs and they contain one cog at most

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Also what is the code block supposed to contain? Command name?

stable mountainBOT Apr 18, 2020, 5:44 AM

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:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @tidal stream until 2020-04-18 05:54 (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: duplicates rule: sent 4 duplicated messages in 10s).

sullen phoenix Apr 18, 2020, 5:45 AM

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!ban 695178390394634242 joined just to spam and troll

stable mountainBOT Apr 18, 2020, 5:45 AM

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:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @tidal stream permanently.

exotic ember Apr 18, 2020, 5:50 AM

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@tawdry vapor
The cog links to the line where the Cog is defined, ie. class Snekbox(Cog): on line 48

The module shows the path to the file where the command is defined, with each segment linked to the respective url in the repo, so the bot directory, the cogs directory, then the snekbox.py file

the code block has the full command name, so !source t g will return !tags get in the code block

tawdry vapor Apr 18, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Thanks for the explanation

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I still don't think the cog link is particularly useful but it doesn't take up space really so it can stay as far as I am concerned

crude gyro Apr 18, 2020, 12:16 PM

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I agree with Mark that the cog is rarely useful.

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but it helps flesh out the response a bit. would look a bit short without it

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and if we did have a single file with many cogs (don't we do that for moderation?) then it would be useful.

hardy gorge Apr 18, 2020, 12:23 PM

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I don't think we have many files with multiple cogs in them

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I don't think the infraction subpackage does that either

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That said, I like the module path breakdown and I don't mind a cog link.

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However, couldn't we link to the command there instead?

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I don't really like linked titles of embeds. They don't look great and I don't think it makes for a great UX/UI either

crude gyro Apr 18, 2020, 12:37 PM

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oh yeah, that sounds like a better option

cold moon Apr 19, 2020, 2:38 PM

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About this PEP issue I have question: Why we don't use int type hint to automatically convert + check it?

glass pecan Apr 19, 2020, 2:40 PM

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@cold moon what issue?

cold moon Apr 19, 2020, 2:40 PM

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891

glass pecan Apr 19, 2020, 2:41 PM

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of what repo?

cold moon Apr 19, 2020, 2:41 PM

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bot have !pep command

glass pecan Apr 19, 2020, 2:42 PM

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ok so https://github.com/python-discord/bot/issues/891

GitHub

PEP Command fixes · Issue #891 · python-discord/bot

The PEP command uses the isdigit check for making sure the passed number is an int, this however is not always true; isdecimal or a try except should be used on the int conversion itself bot/bot/co...

cold moon Apr 19, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Yep. So maybe is better use type hinting instead isdigit

glass pecan Apr 19, 2020, 2:44 PM

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if we don't accept multiple arguments, then it should be using a converter, yep

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 2:58 PM

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https://github.com/python-discord/bot/issues/890
A bit confused with the implementation here, should the bot send an API request regularly to check for news or will it be like a webhook(if available)?

GitHub

Relay Python language news to #python-news · Issue #890 · python-di...

We'd like to have a new announcement channel added to the Information category, called #python-news. In here, we'd like to have stuff like new PEPs, new Python releases, and major P...

green oriole Apr 19, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Contributors doesn't get write access anymore do we?

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 3:26 PM

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nop

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I just got that email too

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@eternal owl regarding implementation, I spoke to akarys about this a bit ago

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 3:27 PM

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okay, I will look it up, thanks!

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 3:27 PM

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I'm pretty sure there was already an issue open...

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give me a momment

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https://github.com/python-discord/bot/issues/834

GitHub

Python mailing list channel · Issue #834 · python-discord/bot

Abstract It would be nice to have a channel tracking some of the official python mailing lists, such as python-dev@python.org. Specification A background task will make the bot fetch from an email ...

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 3:28 PM

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ty

green oriole Apr 19, 2020, 3:28 PM

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How am I supposed to finish my PRs if I don't have write access anymore >_>

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 3:33 PM

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you can clone the branch on pydis repo to your own fork

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it isn't a huge git operation

brazen charm Apr 19, 2020, 3:49 PM

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@patent pivot Think 169 can also be closed with the new issue

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.issue 169 bot

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can we allow that here?

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 3:50 PM

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yeah, I'm okay with that here, feel free to 1 line PR it whenever and I'll get it through fast

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also you are right, 169 can be closed with the new issue

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@cold moon I'm going to write up implementation details, then we'll do claims

cold moon Apr 19, 2020, 3:52 PM

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okay

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 4:03 PM

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@cold moon done

brazen charm Apr 19, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Made the PR joe

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.issue 400

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 4:10 PM

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will take a few to deploy

brazen charm Apr 19, 2020, 4:11 PM

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oh right

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Also found my environment was broken when lint failed so that's a plus

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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.issue 890 bot

dusky shoreBOT Apr 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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GitHub

IssueOpen [bot] #890 Relay Python language news to #python-news

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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all done

brazen charm Apr 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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.issue 400

dusky shoreBOT Apr 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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GitHub

PRMerged [seasonalbot] #400 Allow issue command in dev-contrib channel

brazen charm Apr 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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you override it with your perms 😛

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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true

cold moon Apr 19, 2020, 4:15 PM

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OK, can I get assigned now? I think this is not super hard to do. But one question: What should cog name? News? PythonNews?

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 4:23 PM

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@cold moon News is sufficient, I'm assigning you now

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If you need anything let me know, when you have a working prototype ping us and we'll make a channel

cold moon Apr 19, 2020, 4:29 PM

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ok

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 4:57 PM

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https://github.com/python-discord/site/issues/189
I'd love to work on this and the corresponding issue in the bot repo.
I am not sure about the implementation yet, but this is what I got in mind rn:

URL ENDPOINTS(API):
/raffle/<name_of_raffle>/add - to participate the raffle
/raffle/name_of_raffle/remove - opt out of the raffle
/raffle/name_of_raffle/roll - get results

RAFFLE MODEL:
Name - The event name.
Description - a breif note on the event.
user(ManyToMany field) - all users participating
end_date_time(Can be None) - the date and time the raffle will end.
number_of_winners(default=1)

BOT SIDE COMMANDS:
.raffle <name_of_raffle> add - join the raffle
.raffle <name_of_raffle> remove - opt out of the raffle
.raffle <name_of_raffle> roll - get result(gives a warning if there is a timer set)

GitHub

Endpoint for Raffle Cog · Issue #189 · python-discord/site

To support python-discord/bot#326, the API needs endpoints to add/remove and randomly select user(s) from the running raffle.

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What do you guys think?

cold moon Apr 19, 2020, 5:11 PM

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About these news, how should this check is this new already posted?

green oriole Apr 19, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Go through the message history in the channel

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:12 PM

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That's one way of doing it

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alternatively you could use the key value storage on the bot

cold moon Apr 19, 2020, 5:13 PM

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I think I'll use message history. I don't really like JSON files 😅

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Message history is going to get real annoying after the channel is around for a while

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:14 PM

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it isn't a JSON file

green oriole Apr 19, 2020, 5:14 PM

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We don't have permanent storage on the bot do we?

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:14 PM

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we have an API endpoint for key value storage on the bot

green oriole Apr 19, 2020, 5:14 PM

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do we?

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It must be recent then

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:14 PM

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fetching: https://github.com/python-discord/bot/blob/master/bot/cogs/defcon.py#L66

putting: https://github.com/python-discord/bot/blob/master/bot/cogs/defcon.py#L144

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it isn't very recent

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:14 PM

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The bot's permanent storage is our site

green oriole Apr 19, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Yeah, last time I asked about this one you said it should be used only for settings

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This shouldn't change at runtime in most cases

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You need to add the entry to the validator anyway, you'll need 2 PRs

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:16 PM

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that is one line though

cold moon Apr 19, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Maybe storage last_news_check to site and this post news that is created after this datetime

red fox Apr 19, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Hey!

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:20 PM

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better name would be last_news_post if we are going off IDs, last_news_created_time if time maybe?

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since last_news_check indicates it is the last time we polled

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plus we'll also need another key for RSS

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though you could store that in the dictionary in the same key

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@red fox Hello!

red fox Apr 19, 2020, 5:21 PM

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How are you?

green oriole Apr 19, 2020, 5:22 PM

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But that's clearly not a setting

cold moon Apr 19, 2020, 5:22 PM

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This should storage date too for case when bot is down. Just secure.

green oriole Apr 19, 2020, 5:22 PM

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It doesn't make any sense

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We would be better creating an actual key pair storage for the bot

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:23 PM

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this is actual key val

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if you don't like the name you can change it

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They have different purposes

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🤨

red fox Apr 19, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Yeah I realized it...

cold moon Apr 19, 2020, 5:24 PM

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I start making this tomorrow. Gonna go sleep now

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:24 PM

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👌

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:25 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/635950537262759947/701476684456787979
if anyone has time, please look at this, ty

red fox Apr 19, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Is it possible that we can make our own bot?

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@red fox It is, Discord.py is the library you would be looking for

red fox Apr 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Because like all the cogs and stuff is a bit above my brain

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@eternal owl proposal looks good to me

red fox Apr 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@red fox It is, Discord.py is the library you would be looking for
@patent pivot I use that only

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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We use discord.py, cogs are a part of discord.py

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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okay, can you assign me to the site one 🙂

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:27 PM

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@eternal owl how do you plan on identifying raffles

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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title/event name?

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I'm not a fan of the bot commands

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I have a small change, one sec

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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won't there be an announcement during a raffle?

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Do we really need more than one raffle at a time?

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:28 PM

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.raffle join <name_of_raffle> - join the raffle
.raffle leave <name_of_raffle> - opt out of the raffle
.raffle roll <name_of_raffle> - get result(gives a warning if there is a timer set)

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that's another thing yeah

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in fact

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I'm skeptical we need site storage?

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is there a reason we can't do reactions?

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:29 PM

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we can

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that will be work only on the bot side then

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:29 PM

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And lose all the entries if the bot restarts?

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:29 PM

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and then eliminate the need for any .raffle join or .raffle leave and then just implement a .roll <message id> to pick a random reactor?

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we can always fetch reactions

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:30 PM

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How do you know where to fetch reactions from?

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:30 PM

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we pass in the message ID when we roll

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:30 PM

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using message link

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:32 PM

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!int e ```py
msg = await channel.fetch_message(701484548952817677)
print(msg.reactions)

stable mountainBOT Apr 19, 2020, 5:32 PM

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In [1]: msg = await channel.fetch_message(701484548952817677)
   ...: print(msg.reactions)
   ...: 
[<Reaction emoji='🇦' me=False count=1>, <Reaction emoji='🇧' me=False count=1>, <Reaction emoji='🇨' me=False count=1>, <Reaction emoji='🇩' me=False count=1>]

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:32 PM

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https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Reaction.users
maybe this(not sure)

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:33 PM

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!int e ```py
import random

msg = await channel.fetch_message(701484548952817677)
reactors = set()

for reaction in msg.reactions:
async for user in reaction.users():
reactors.add(user.id)

print(random.choice(list(reactors)))

stable mountainBOT Apr 19, 2020, 5:33 PM

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In [3]: import random
   ...: msg = await channel.fetch_message(701484548952817677)
   ...: reactors = set()
   ...: for reaction in msg.reactions:
   ...:     async for user in reaction.users():
   ...:         reactors.add(user.id)
   ...: print(random.choice(list(reactors)))
   ...: 
263560579770220554

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:34 PM

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yep, thats my id

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:34 PM

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sad face

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but I think I prefer that proposal?

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:34 PM

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which?

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:34 PM

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reactions & pick from that

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@woeful thorn what do you think of that solution?

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:35 PM

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yea me2

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I don't really care either way

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:35 PM

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@crude gyro @hardy gorge do you guys have an opinion on raffles? Should we do entry through a command and have site storage or use Discord & fetch reactions?

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:36 PM

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If I'm not wrong, we had a jetbrains license giveaway and we used reactions

hardy gorge Apr 19, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Wouldn't site complicate this by a lot? And what would it store?

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It's basically a very temporary cache

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We'd still need to get the reactions to do the raffle, right? Or do you want to have them to react on the website?

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:37 PM

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the issue currently exists on site, this was the proposal from iceman https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/635950537262759947/701476684456787979

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:37 PM

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We agreed on site a year ago when it was suggested

hardy gorge Apr 19, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Oh, okay

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:38 PM

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No reason we can't change our minds

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:38 PM

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why did we agree on site 🤔 (just curious about the reasons)

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I don't know, it was a year ago

hardy gorge Apr 19, 2020, 5:39 PM

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If I have to take a guess, it's because of what was mentioned above: Remembering the message with the reactions.

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We'd still have to fetch reactions after a bot restart to count the reactions given between bot shutdown and it coming back up

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:39 PM

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It's more likely we wanted to do a spinner on the site or something

hardy gorge Apr 19, 2020, 5:39 PM

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could also be, yeah

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:39 PM

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or

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we don't have to store anything, just do the math when rolling

crude gyro Apr 19, 2020, 5:40 PM

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could do seasonalbot and use the persistance there - or wait until we have regular bot persistance

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:40 PM

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fetch reaction/users while rolling

crude gyro Apr 19, 2020, 5:40 PM

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yeah the spinner on the site was an idea we had at one point - joseph even wrote some code for that for one of the code jams

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:41 PM

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code jam 5

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the micro controller giveaway

crude gyro Apr 19, 2020, 5:41 PM

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but I don't really feel an urgent need for that anymore

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:41 PM

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We don't need persistence if we're not going to do anything fun with it

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:41 PM

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The code for discord is ludicrously simple

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!int e ```py
import random

msg = await (guild.get_channel(354619224620138496)).fetch_message(699734335951208589)
reactors = set()

for reaction in msg.reactions:
async for user in reaction.users():
reactors.add(str(user))

print(random.choice(list(reactors)))

stable mountainBOT Apr 19, 2020, 5:41 PM

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In [6]: import random
   ...: msg = await (guild.get_channel(354619224620138496)).fetch_message(699734335951208589)
   ...: reactors = set()
   ...: for reaction in msg.reactions:
   ...:     async for user in reaction.users():
   ...:         reactors.add(str(user))
   ...: print(random.choice(list(reactors)))
   ...: 
Gugi9000#1408

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:41 PM

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from the aeros announcement

crude gyro Apr 19, 2020, 5:41 PM

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can someone give me the tldr for why we need persistance at all?

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what fun features are we talking about

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Spinner

crude gyro Apr 19, 2020, 5:42 PM

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okay.

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Also, again, this was over a year ago

crude gyro Apr 19, 2020, 5:42 PM

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well, I guess it could make sense as part of the code jam management toolset, but

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naw, I don't feel an urgent need for this at all.

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I'd rather just have the bot code

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and use emojis

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it works fine

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:43 PM

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we could still do fun stuff with it should we want to, we can always extract a list of people who reacted and make something fun with it

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but it isn't urgent

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:46 PM

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a few changes to the reaction method:

.raffle [message_id] [time]

here:
- message_id : ID of the message to which members will react to(to join the raffle).
- time : time when the raffle will end and the results will be posted by the bot automaticall

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and a roll command

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if no time is set

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:47 PM

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What are we going to do with time without persistence?

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:47 PM

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nvm, no need time then

crude gyro Apr 19, 2020, 5:47 PM

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not sure what this will even do

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wouldn't a roll command be all we need?

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:48 PM

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okay

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the roll command will just take in the message_id as input

crude gyro Apr 19, 2020, 5:48 PM

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how will it know what emoji to use?

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:48 PM

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It shouldn't matter if you just use a set of the reactors

crude gyro Apr 19, 2020, 5:48 PM

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like what

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:48 PM

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wait

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we need more config

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like number of winners n stuff

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because in code jam5 we had multiple rolls

crude gyro Apr 19, 2020, 5:50 PM

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sure. so .raffle [message_id] [number_of_winners]? and then we just use a set of any reactors?

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I guess that works

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:50 PM

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just add an argument for number of reactors and pass it into random.choices

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:50 PM

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yea, the k param

crude gyro Apr 19, 2020, 5:50 PM

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but number of winners should be optional

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and default to 1

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:50 PM

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okay

patent pivot Apr 19, 2020, 5:55 PM

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my best work to date

📎 unknown.png

molten bough Apr 19, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Good lord.

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:56 PM

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flashy

woeful thorn Apr 19, 2020, 5:56 PM

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📎 unknown.png

eternal owl Apr 19, 2020, 5:56 PM

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those firewords kinda remind me of coconut trees

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Will I become a contributor if I add some cool features to @stable mountain?

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Or some stuff to the website?

brazen charm Apr 20, 2020, 2:02 AM

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if you make significant contributions

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:04 AM

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So if I make new stuff for a week and make it noticeable for the devs, will I get the role/become a contributor?

brazen charm Apr 20, 2020, 2:04 AM

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the stuff has to be approved and be code with some degree of quality

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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O_o

brazen charm Apr 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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I can't speak for the role as I'm not staff, but you can't create PRs out of the blue

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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PRs?

brazen charm Apr 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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push requests

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Oh yea

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But I can't run the bot to test some stuff

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I did make a pull

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Even if I replace the toke with something else, I can't run the bot

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Hold on, I'll give you what error I get

brazen charm Apr 20, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Which one are we talking about now?

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:07 AM

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@stable mountain

brazen charm Apr 20, 2020, 2:07 AM

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it requires more extensive setup

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along with having the site running

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:08 AM

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What site?

brazen charm Apr 20, 2020, 2:08 AM

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https://github.com/python-discord/site

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You can see the requirements here https://pythondiscord.com/pages/contributing/bot/

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Oh

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Thanks for the link

brazen charm Apr 20, 2020, 2:10 AM

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I'd recommend starting with seasonalbot

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Why is that?

brazen charm Apr 20, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Simpler to setup and the bot is mostly simpler in general

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with its features etc.

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:13 AM

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📎 5aca9d520a6b46eeb73dbe286aa8c00b.png

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I don't have this requirement 😦

brazen charm Apr 20, 2020, 2:14 AM

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you can set it up locally

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through the linked guide

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Oh

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Hope it is easy 😕

brazen charm Apr 20, 2020, 2:16 AM

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depends on how successful you are with getting docker up if you're going through that

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Umh

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No

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Is there a way to learn docker?

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It is getting quite a popular thing

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I don't like interacting with things that I don't know how it works

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Often, it's scary

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Ow

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There's many complex things in the requirement

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I'll go with @dusky shore

tawdry vapor Apr 20, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Well in theory it's not complex if you just use Docker

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But alas Docker has problems on Windows

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Why?

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Why on windows?

tawdry vapor Apr 20, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Cause it needs hyper-v, which is not available on the home edition

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That's the main thing

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But there have been other quirks which I do not remember

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Huh.

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What about on linux?

tawdry vapor Apr 20, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Works great on linux

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I'm planning on setting up a linux os as the dual boot

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I would do it now but I can't get a usb because of the lockdown..

brazen charm Apr 20, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I'm on win with docker and it wasn't terribly nice to set up but after it's working it just works (only using it for site/db)

dry topaz Apr 20, 2020, 2:26 AM

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What else can you use it on?

brazen charm Apr 20, 2020, 2:27 AM

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the bot can also run in a container if you meant that

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but I'm running it directly through pipenv

cold moon Apr 20, 2020, 6:09 AM

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How to make bot creating new item to bot/bot-settings endpoint?

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Oh! I have to change site too.

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But how I can make that bot automatically create news setting?