to see ur version
#unix
final echo
final echo
@wise valvenow to install vscode
open your browser and search vscode linux commandline download
wise valve
okay
final echo
how do i upgrade stuff
you can search on google
for python its bit diffrent
wise valve
okay
wise valve
<@!715203714180448357>now to install vscode
open your browser and search vscode...
yes im there
wise valve
im there
final echo
ok send me the link so i can confirm
wise valve
wise valve
wget line?
final echo
wget line?
yep
final echo
jeez will i have to type it all
copy paste
final echo
is ther any way to paste it in terminal?
ctrl + shirft + v
final echo
it dependson ur net speed
wise valve
k
btw i copy pasted the whole wget thing in terminal and it divided it on its own
was it a glitch?
final echo
was it a glitch?
no
terminal can split it automatically
as they are diffrent commands
final echo
lol
wise valve
all my friends used to say "linux sucks"
final echo
all my friends used to say "linux sucks"
idk they prolly havent used it
ok ping me when its done
midnight rain
all my friends used to say "linux sucks"
it depends on what you want
obviously if you want to gaming or easy things Linux not the better for that
wise valve
@final echo done
wise valve
i ran all of em
final echo
i ran all of em
nice
now check your applications
or you can just type
code in the terminal
final echo
its the vscode itself
?
final echo
it opened vscode
yep thats what the command is for lol
wise valve
omg so every time i type code it will open vscode?
final echo
omg so every time i type code it will open vscode?
yep
wise valve
thank you sooo much
wise valve
how do i install git here
wise valve
its giving me a code to install
final echo
its giving me a code to install
ok then it isnt installed
you can follow the same steps we did for vs
code
to install git
this will help you in your linux journey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG9-AegnNv4
wise valve
Its saying "After this operation, 34.0 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue?"
should i press y?
final echo
should i press y?
yep
wise valve
okay thanks
final echo
okay thanks
now you can try
git --version to check if its installed correctly
wise valve
final questoin are there some basic commands i need to know to use linux?
and if so can u reccomend me a video
also are modules like pyautogui preinstalled?
final echo
final questoin are there some basic commands i need to know to use linux?
for ubuntu
actually not
all you need to know is
sudo apt-get install <name>
this will install anything from their storage if its available
final echo
also are modules like pyautogui preinstalled?
no
modules arent preinstalled
final echo
btw importnat thing
do python3 instead of python
and pip3 instead of pip
wise valve
okayy
final echo
becuase linux has both python3 and 2 preinstalled
wise valve
kk
wise valve
btw importnat thing
do python3 instead of python
and pip3 instead of pip
how do i uninstall stuff
final echo
how do i uninstall stuff
sudo apt uninstall
dont uninstall python btw
it will break the os
final echo
@wise valvepyautogui is a python module
python commands are same
just put
python3
and pip3
here you can do
pip3 uninstall pyautogui
wise valve
but i installed it by sudo apt install pyautogui
final echo
but i installed it by sudo apt install pyautogui
that wont work lol
sudo apt install is for apps and stuff
not for python packages
wise valve
can u see the screenshot
above the line i asked it to uninstall
i typed sudo apt install pyautogui
and it installed somehtin
final echo
lemme see
final echo
ok you dont have pip thats why
you have to do install like you do on windows
you can ask help regarding pip and stuff in general ig
final echo
i downloaded pip
pip or pip3?
wise valve
pip or pip3?
pip3
final echo
ok nice
wise valve
i typed sudo apt install python3-pip
final echo
go on with your journey
final echo
bye
woven yarrow
What's the best way to check in python for a systemd service's status and uptime?
formal schooner
personally i'd just use subprocess. although maybe there are some kind of systemctl bindings in python
maybe you can use the dbus api https://wiki.freedesktop.org/www/Software/systemd/dbus/
wispy warren
can you chek the last 2 lines please
it should be "remove" instead of "uninstall".. nothing is like uninstall
opaque ginkgo
pyautogui isn't a deb package anyways so it doesnt matter
midnight rain
anyone have some video/book about dbus?
rocky dew
I need to retrieve information, within python script, about each pdf page's font using both pdffonts and pdftohtml from poppler. It seems that calling subprocess.run thousand times for each pdf file is bottlenecking my script. So, I'm thinking if it's better to rewrite it to: 1. call pdffonts and pdftohtml inside a bash loop and write both outputs to a single file, to be read later using mmap; 2. call pdffonts and pdftohtml inside a bash loop and write each output to single file to be read later using default open(file, 'r'); 3. call both commands each time and make them output to stdout, avoiding 2 time read/write. In your opinion, which is the best option to me?
I'm processing a lot of pdf files and need to identify pages with corrupted text to perform ocr
warped nimbus
This doesn't seem like a matter of opinion. You should develop prototypes and benchmark them to see which performs adequately.
rocky dew
Just image you were given the same task. What option you'd prefer based on your experience?
Which looks like more obvious?
I have implemented option 3, but it seems slow as I pointed. I've never used mmap
warped nimbus
Do you need to ultimately display the subprocess outputs in stdout? Doesn't that get really flooded with stuff and hard to read?
rocky dew
I need to parse output in order to identify likely problematic fonts (custom or identity-h encoding and no cmaps) and count occurrences of each font
warped nimbus
How come you asked this in the unix channel?
rocky dew
Maybe it's related to system calls. I'm using debian btw
warped nimbus
What is related to system calls?
rocky dew
Calling pdftohtml and pdffonts through subprocess.run multiple times
warped nimbus
Well yeah they use system calls just like everything else, but you're not dealing with them at such a low level. Let's continue this conversation in a help channel you claim?
warped nimbus
yeah, please. I think your question doesn't quite fit this channel. You can see #❓｜how-to-get-help and just ping me once you've claimed a channel
rocky dew
Ok, thank you for your attention. I'll do it
warped nimbus
@rocky dew what's going on?
rocky dew
Just posted my question
olive ice
I ask to myself can windows run off a 18GB hardrive well windows10 probably can’t but Linux can
hazy sorrel
!e print(“0”)
shy yokeBOT
@hazy sorrel :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File "<string>", line 1
002 | print(“0”)
003 | ^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid character '“' (U+201C)
lavish storm
#bot-commands
silent stump
I ask to myself can windows run off a 18GB hardrive well windows10 probably can’...
Many distros can run comfortably from less than 1 GB
Hell, some are even designed to
On flash drives as recovery isos, etc
olive ice
Many distros can run comfortably from less than 1 GB
Windows = bloated
Linux = not bloated
formal schooner
it's GUI applications that take up most of the memory in my experience, followed by the DE itself (plus all the various notification daemons, etc)
oh this is disk space
similar considerations
silent stump
Funnily enough I'm still going to run my computer on windows
I am only now setting up a Debian server for self-hosting
In a perfect world I would have enough IQ for NixOS. But this is not a perfect world.
formal schooner
i've been using opensuse for server things recently
i find that it's less chaotic to configure than debian
silent stump
I see, any points to sell me on?
formal schooner
system configuration is more organized, that's the main selling point for me
silent stump
I see
formal schooner
in enterprise settings, it has tools for things like provisioning many systems at once, setting up virtual machines, etc.
silent stump
I see, that sounds pretty interesting
formal schooner
debian is fine for server things though. just keep in mind that the system packages can get very badly out of date between stable releases
but docker helps a lot with that
silent stump
Well, I am not going to run docker
I dislike the concept of it
But I wont run any new pkgs anyway
formal schooner
imo the system package manager shouldn't be responsible for installing app-level packages. dependency isolation is a beautiful thing and it's one of the big advantages of containers
you don't need docker specifically, there are other kinds of containers
silent stump
Yeah, but Id rather use something like nixos and flakes
formal schooner
i'm not smart enough for that. i use docker-compose
silent stump
Or alternatively Slackware ||if this was 10 years ago||
"what's the solution to dependency hell? Just install everything to begin with"
olive ice
The only distros I’m running at minute are void Linux artix and Ubuntu I say this for no reason
analog smelt
anyone use pipenv?
dawn pine
lavish storm
olive ice
https://nosystemd.org/ found this
safe sorrel
had an opensuse chameleon plushy in my car. used it as a window cleaner lol
unfortunately both are gone
woven yarrow
How can I debug a why does my Ubuntu VM suddenly has no internet? I don't remember changing anything networking wise, but I can't SSH into it anymore (nor can ping from it successfully)
olive silo
How can I debug a why does my Ubuntu VM suddenly has no internet? I don't rememb...
Did your internet go down recently
or did your router get restarted for any reason
woven yarrow
Not that I know of but it's possible, why?
olive silo
Because when it restarts each device on your network(s) gets a new private IP
woven yarrow
I'm using a static IP on it
olive silo
Hm. and this VM is on your primary machine, like the one you're texting me on right now, right?
Or well, I'm assuming you're on your PC texting
woven yarrow
Yes it's on my laptop (current machine)
But I have 2 more VM's from my desktop and they are working fine
(same network)
olive silo
Alright, and what VM Hypervisor are you using?
woven yarrow
Hyper-V
olive silo
Hm.
woven yarrow
Running from a switch I created for that VM
olive silo
Well, you said you haven't messed with your network at all like, setting wise
Like in the VM settings you haven't messed with it's internet
olive silo
Hm. Could you possibly go to the VM network settings and Send a SS of it all? any sub categories and stuff. Ofc, if you need to, crop out the static IP it has if it happens to show up
woven yarrow
Things might have changed on the VM but I definitely did not mess with these since it stopped working
olive silo
hm. give me a min, doing something, but i'll check it out
olive silo
alright so, just to make sure, you have access to the machine running the VM, like if you wanted to you could walk to the PC and mess with the files manually and stuff
Nvm, you do
Alright so
What you should do is go to the VM, and type two things, ifconfig
and if that doesn't work
ipconfig
With that, it should say like, 192.text
That should be the IP address of the VM
meaning, you can most likely ping it, then if it pings, try to ssh into it
I personally, will try to do that myself, with VirtualBox, so we can both understand
woven yarrow
olive silo
ok so
with that, install ifconfig
apt install net-tools
as it suggests
then afterwards try the ifconfig
woven yarrow
But I don't have internet lol
olive silo
Oh it just doesn't have internet access at all?
Hm
Well this is... not fun
Does said VM have a GUI or is it only terminal based
woven yarrow
It's server only
olive silo
😩 Linux sucks sometimes
Have you tried looking up things you can do to enable network connections
woven yarrow
When I try ssh localhost it gives connection refused
So something definitely not right
woven yarrow
Yeah
olive silo
Bruhhh why're HVs so dumb sometimes
Hm
Well hol up
And, what OS is this?
Ubuntu
?
woven yarrow
Yeah ubuntu 20.04
olive silo
k
This seems to be your exact issue
k
so
Im gonna guide you through everything
so it's easy on you
first off, run this
sudo mv /etc/netplan/*.yaml /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml
woven yarrow
Does that look alright?
dhcp4 is false so it doesn't give a dynamic also
Been running it like that for a while
olive silo
Let me see according to the page
woven yarrow
(the 2 other VM's on my PC have the exact same config just .200 and .202)
olive silo
"Change the file to read: "
network:
version: 2
renderer: networkd
ethernets:
ens33:
dhcp4: true```Netplan is very particular about spacing, indentation, etc. Proofread carefully twice. Save (Ctrl+o followed by Enter) and exit (Ctrl+x) the text editor. Follow with:```sudo netplan generate
sudo netplan apply```Mhm..
woven yarrow
Yeah pinging google works now
olive silo
well there ya go
woven yarrow
So what the hell is happening
I'm using the exact same config file on the 2 other VM's too
woven yarrow
It's eth0 too
SSH still won't seem to work
(trying to connect to the new dynamic IP)
olive silo
It's because that IP is well, only available to that VM
I tried to ping an IP of my parrot os installation and it wouldn't ping
so you'd have to re-convert that stuff into a static IP
woven yarrow
I can SSH into my PC's VMs just fine though
And on this one I'm having issues with even ssh localhost fails
olive silo
So, it can ping, and everything
but it can't ssh
My System can't ssh localhost
localhost isn't able to ssh in any ways
it's just the localhost
however, if you tried to ssh into lets say
those Vms on your other PC
woven yarrow
But it works on the other VM's lol
olive silo
assuming they have static IPs as well, it should work
woven yarrow
ssh localhost works on the others
woven yarrow
Yes
olive silo
weird
type just ssh
and see if it has something that gives an output
like says what args ssh takes
woven yarrow
Yes it has the default one
olive silo
no worrys, anyway, try this
sudo apt-get install openssh-server -y
all that does is install openssh-server
woven yarrow
Already have it installed but I'll try nuking it
woven yarrow
Welp too late lol
woven yarrow
Fun in linux lol does that even exist?
real swan
if you run the same program twice what section would be shared in the memory?
is it code section?
summer trail
The code segment could be shared, yes.
molten wedge
glob.glob('**/*.txt',recursive=True):matches all files ending in '.txt' in the current directory and in all subdirectories
How can I get this behaviour in bash?
I tried ls **/*.txt but it didnt work
lavish storm
How can I get this behaviour in bash?
ls *.txt && ls */*.txt
worked for me
well tried it with png but same deal
molten wedge
```sh
ls *.txt && ls */*.txt
```
worked for me
ls */*{tailwind,windi}.config.{js,cjs,mjs,ts} does not work
lavish storm
oh you want multiple extensions
molten wedge
im trying to get all tailwind config files in current directory and sub dirs
lavish storm
you could try egrep
molten wedge
im using the js glob package
lavish storm
i don't know any js sorry
lavish storm
ls -R */*(tailwind|windi).config.(cjs|js|mjs|ts)
works
i'm unsure about braces i've never used them myself
molten wedge
thanks it works, ill try to port it to js
real swan
whats the diff btw structure of os and type of os?
diff btw (simple, layered, microkernel, modular) vs (batch, timesharing, multiprogramming...)
steep wagon
when using bash to import a function from another script what is the procedure
?
i am using source but some of the functions are found and others are not
i have no clue why
undone pulsar
It "imports" only in the sense that all names in the script you source are available to you afterwards, but this is only because it executes in the current shell.
In all other respects source script (or . script if you're not on bash) is just running another script, so it won't cache modules or implement namespacing or anything like that
If you want to "import" from another script like this, you could do some fuckery with BASH_SOURCE to prevent execution when the script is sourced:
#!/usr/bin/env bash
bar() {
rev <<< "$@"
}
main() {
echo "Reversing input..."
bar $@
echo "Input reversed!"
}
if [ $BASH_SOURCE = $0 ]
then
main $@
fi
This is a bashism though so I'd probably steer clear
summer trail
How can I get this behaviour in bash?
You need shopt -s globstar - then ls **/*.txt will work.
safe sorrel
Fun in linux lol does that even exist?
Fun
violet falcon
Someone give me a distro to use I have a pentium 6405u with 8gb of ddr4 ram
lavish storm
literally any linux distro
violet falcon
ugh idk what to do I want something super stable and Debian 11 doesn’t come out until august 14
lavish storm
i don't know what kind of things you want to do that needs your system to be "super stable"
olive ice
FreeBSD stable says that never ran bsd on real hardware
lavish storm
i've scoured the entire documentation and did not find a single thing about "never ran on real hardware"
besides if that was the case then why would they have Hardware Compatibility List?
glad bough
does anyone know how to install whl files with python2
I am having issues installing this watchdog whl file on my pc intranet environment
amber garnet
Someone give me a distro to use I have a pentium 6405u with 8gb of ddr4 ram
Ubuntu for me, works very well
hard lion
Hey, im sorting a list with "sort" in bash and with "sorted" in python.
But they have a different sorting. Bash sorting numbers first, and python first giving me strings beginning with a dot.
Does someone know if there is a general "sort order" or where to look up on that? man sort doesnt gave me the hint i needed.
amber garnet
Hey, im sorting a list with "sort" in bash and with "sorted" in python.
But they...
!e
x = [3, 5, 8, 10, 0]
x.sort()
print(x)
x = ["3", "5", "8", "10", "0"]
x.sort()
print(x)
@amber garnet :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | [0, 3, 5, 8, 10]
002 | ['0', '10', '3', '5', '8']
All depends what you have - strs or ints
hard lion
Ah. Didnt thought about that. Thank you
amber garnet
Ah. Didnt thought about that. Thank you
👍
hard lion
I checked an in my python list, its strings. And in Bash i piped multiple lines to sort.
So doesnt seem to have to do with ints.
formal schooner
@hard lion keep in mind sort is a standalone program, it's not part of bash. that said, can you give us example data that demonstrates the inconsistency? including your python code
clever spoke
Incoming from general:
wise valve
So I can't download VS code in my system for some reason. I tried folllowing the instructions from the vs code website but they just dont work.
I did have vscode previously
but I had purged it for some reason
dense wigeon
install the .deb package?
clever spoke
Which distro are you using (linux)
hard lion
<@!396333928635564034> keep in mind `sort` is a standalone program, it's not par...
You are right.
I tried to sort these 3 strings:
jquery.js
jquery.jshowoff2.js
jquery.jshowoff.min.js
(thats the order with sort)
An in python I used "sorted(nameOfMyList)
The whole code is:
#!/usr/bin/python3.9
import re
expression="(?<=/)[\w\.]+.js "
output = []
file = open("access_log.txt")
lines = file.readlines()
file.close
for i in range(len(lines)):
matches = re.findall(expression,lines[i])
if matches != []:
for j in matches:
if j not in output:
output.append(j)
print(sorted(output))
Ubuntu
clever spoke
Does the Software Center not work?
wise valve
Does the Software Center not work?
wdym
clever spoke
I thought I got VS Code up and running from there, if you are looking to do it from source / command line give me a second
wise valve
I thought I got VS Code up and running from there, if you are looking to do it f...
I tried the commands from the VS code website
They gave me a blank line
for each code
formal schooner
You are right.
I tried to sort these 3 strings:
jquery.js
jquery.jshowoff2.js
...
!e ```python
values = ['jquery.js', 'jquery.jshowoff2.js', 'jquery.jshowoff.min.js']
print(sorted(values))
@formal schooner :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
['jquery.js', 'jquery.jshowoff.min.js', 'jquery.jshowoff2.js']
should i share my terminal?
formal schooner
@hard lion i get this result from my sort command:
jquery.js
jquery.jshowoff.min.js
jquery.jshowoff2.js
I used the commands from the VS code website
they worked the first time
but havent worked after I purged VS code
clever spoke
https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/setup/linux
This is what I am looking at
wise valve
wget -qO- https://packages.microsoft.com/keys/microsoft.asc | gpg --dearmor > packages.microsoft.gpg sudo install -o root -g root -m 644 packages.microsoft.gpg /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ sudo sh -c 'echo "deb [arch=amd64,arm64,armhf signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/packages.microsoft.gpg] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable main" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list' rm -f packages.microsoft.gpg
i used these commands
clever spoke
Huh
wise valve
clever spoke
Did you see the link I sent?
hard lion
<@!396333928635564034> i get this result from my `sort` command:
```
jquery.js
j...
I tried again and get the one with "2" as the second one. Which version do you use?
hard lion
I tried again and get the one with "2" as the second one. Which version do you u...
I use 8.32
clever spoke
I would recommend the block before it, depending on where you saved the .deb package you would run
sudo apt install ./code_1.59.0-1628120042_amd64.deb
formal schooner
I tried again and get the one with "2" as the second one. Which version do you u...
i used both sort 2.3-Apple (99) and sort (GNU coreutils) 8.32 - same result in both
did you alias sort to something else?
hard lion
did you alias `sort` to something else?
havent configured any alias on sort
wise valve
I would recommend the block before it, depending on where you saved the .deb pac...
where is this line from?
clever spoke
where is this line from?
wise valve
ohk
hard lion
i used both sort `2.3-Apple (99)` and `sort (GNU coreutils) 8.32` - same result ...
What exactly did you typed? I typed all three strings in a file and then "sort filename"
Tried another distro. same result als before
clever spoke
An alternative to all of this is to use the Software Center, the GUI application to download / install VS Code from
wise valve
formal schooner
What exactly did you typed? I typed all three strings in a file and then "sort f...
gsort <<< 'jquery.js
jquery.jshowoff2.js
jquery.jshowoff.min.js '
btw today i updated my system
clever spoke
That was the file name I got when I downloaded it
clever spoke
If you click this link it will download the .deb file, I would save it on your system and then cd in your terminal to that directory and run the install
wise valve
I had installed vscode before as i mentioned
clever spoke
hard lion
```zsh
gsort <<< 'jquery.js
jquery.jshowoff2.js
jquery.jshowoff.min.js '
```
Tried different things. Still not the same as yours 🤔
hard lion
```zsh
gsort <<< 'jquery.js
jquery.jshowoff2.js
jquery.jshowoff.min.js '
```
But thank you for trying 👍
clever spoke
I had installed vscode before as i mentioned
Ping me if something comes up, I usually don't browse through this channel
formal schooner
@hard lion possibly different versions of sort, or different LC_ALL, LANG, etc. environment variables.
olive ice
I had installed vscode before as i mentioned
Use vim ore emacs ed nano vscode why I don’t understand why people use vscode learn how to exit vim
opaque ginkgo
all real programmers use ed
dapper musk
*all real programmers use dd. ed is bloat
surreal harness
pfft imagine using things like heredocs
surreal harness
fallow wadi
xterm
main olive
square brackets in prompt would drive me into depression
main olive
dense wigeon
So basically, I want to create a group called guests and put users in it (Ubuntu 20.4)
The group has no access, but they get a directory called /home/guests (no rwx access just a folder to keep it's users in)
Each user added into the group must only have rwx-access to /home/guests/USER which becomes their home directory and no access at all in any other directory e.g. /home/guests/anotherUser
How do I achieve this? Please explain with steps and what each steps does. Thanks in advance!
hushed spoke
Hey I made a simple python curses app that gets loaded with bootlocal.sh on startup. It works and runs but it seems that it doesn't have keyboard focus or something. If I press enter the prompt will appear overlapping my curses GUI... How am I supposed to do this properly? I'm using tinycore pure 64bit
amber garnet
So basically, I want to create a group called `guests` and put users in it (Ubun...
What have you tried? Do you know how to add new user?
lavish lodge
How can i properly run a python script to run 24/7 on a linux machine? Preferably without screens
molten wedge
How can i properly run a python script to run 24/7 on a linux machine? Preferabl...
Are you trying to schedule it to run every x days or want it tk just run always?
molten wedge
Use docker compose and the restart setting.
lavish lodge
Compose?
lavish lodge
Gmm im really new to docker. But are you familiar with services? Cuz i couldnt configure them correctly for my use case
Is it possible to give a non root user the permission to start/stop a specific system service?
That would solve all my problems actually
molten wedge
Is it possible to give a non root user the permission to start/stop a specific s...
I'm sure it is if you add that user to correct group and give that group correct permissions. But idk how to do it myself.
amber garnet
The programms stop after leaving the ssh session
How? systemd is not related to SSH session afaik
slate crypt
Maybe sshd?
amber garnet
Maybe sshd?
Still, systemd should start service regardless of the SSH session
slate crypt
Tmux is a solution.
amber garnet
I think that the problem is with the service configuration
@lavish lodge can you share your code?
vivid path
guys i'm making a script to see if i using lvm
cat /etc/fstab | grep -c /dev/mapper/
but i wanna be able to get a "yes" or "no" based on output is different than 0
cat /etc/fstab | grep -c /dev/mapper/ | true ? "yes" : "no"
something like that
vivid path
i kind resolve this using awk
olive ice
guys i'm making a script to see if i using lvm
Just grep it don’t use cat
formal schooner
@vivid path
if grep -q -F '/dev/mapper' /etc/fstab
then
echo "LVM"
else
echo "Not LVM"
fi
thanks
vivid path
Just grep it don’t use cat
thanks
woven yarrow
I'm running a Python app as a systemd service on multiple Ubuntu servers, and I would like to keep the deployments in sync, as in whenever I push an update to GitHub all the servers should update their local git and restart the systemd service. What would be a great solution for this?
scarlet totem
I'm running a Python app as a systemd service on multiple Ubuntu servers, and I ...
You could use webhooks. I have been working on something that does most of what you want.
woven yarrow
You could use webhooks. I have been working on something that does most of what ...
Can I both update the code and restart the service after with that workflow?
scarlet totem
Can I both update the code and restart the service after with that workflow?
It pulls from a git repo. Restarting wouldn't be hard to add
formal schooner
would it make sense to use something like saltstack or ansible for this?
i think fabric is another tool along those lines? i remember an old employer used that
tranquil valley
Hey there, wanted to ask if there are any differences in Python programming between Linux & Windows?
main olive
generally in most scenarios no
usually you come across differences when using some obscure python modules
which can be OS dependent
tranquil valley
okay, thanks
thin jacinth
yesterday i installed ubuntu on my system and then my microphone is dead. i don't know how to fix it.
rain ether
Running on Debian 10, I'm calling os.system("umount /dev/sr0") and then os.system("eject /dev/sr0") and the disk is ejecting and then immediately retracting.
I don't see this behavior when I call eject from the command line.
I did find some decades old bug reports against the Linux kernel that imply that the tray cycling happens when called on something that is still mounted which doesn't seem to fit here... Thinking it could be still "sort of" mounted I added some time.sleep() between the two calls to no use.
Anyone have any suggestions I could try? Or run in to this themselves?
formal schooner
do you not have the problem in bash/dash?
rain ether
No... but at the same time I'm also not processing anything heavily on the disk in bash.
formal schooner
also os.system should be banned forever, use subprocess.run!
rain ether
I'll give that a whirl to see if that makes a difference.
This is actually code from a "rip your dvds automatically" project so I'll blame them 😉
formal schooner
i would love a shell/terminal that supports a "structured interactive command line". where a command line is a sequence of "slots", and instead of quoting, everything in a slot is always parsed as 1 argument, unless you specifically request it to be expanded. the spacebar would be a keyboard shortcut for advancing by 1 slot.
it would encourage people to stop conflating "shell script syntax" with "invoking an executable with some arguments"
rain ether
I'm not versed enough in the way OSes handle parameter passing to be wise here but I don't see the distinction between quoted parameters and your slots.
formal schooner
because quoting is hard and fussy
olive ice
The only distros I’m running at minute are void Linux artix and Ubuntu I say thi...
On the artix machine I installed Slackware I guess I went from bleeding ege to stable
sharp palm
no one is reacting to posts in the help channels, so I thought I'd try my luck here. what am I doing wrong?
its on a VM
amber garnet
no one is reacting to posts in the help channels, so I thought I'd try my luck h...
You have venv in your project
!venv
shy yokeBOT
amber garnet
Use python3 and pip3 commands from your venv to install this package
sharp palm
isnt that necessary?
amber garnet
isnt that necessary?
You can create venv which allows to import global packages but in your case this option wasn't checked as far as I see
amber garnet
You can select just Python 3.8 under /usr/bin/python3.8 directory to pick global interpreter
sharp palm
so I don't need the tensorenv?
amber garnet
I prefer to have venv-per-project
sharp palm
this has to be done in the python project?
sharp palm
You can create venv which allows to import global packages but in your case this...
like this?
amber garnet
like this?
You cannot do that in Python files
sharp palm
was confused about that lol
amber garnet
You can open terminal in PyCharm (it's available at the bottom bar) and there put pip3 install keras
sharp palm
and/or anaconda, I dont rlly know the relationship between tensor and anaconda
ah, great
amber garnet
and/or anaconda, I dont rlly know the relationship between tensor and anaconda
I don't know what is needed to setup environment for tensorflow and AI, maybe you should ask on #data-science-and-ml 
sharp palm
yeah
amber garnet
The ai is part of the name of this channel lol
sharp palm
thought it wouldnt include setting up projects
since thats really basic stuff
importing libs
formal schooner
@sharp palm Anaconda is a distribution of Python that includes the Conda package manager and several other tools and libraries for scientific programming. See here: https://docs.anaconda.com/anaconda/
honest saffron
<@!290224814663401472> Anaconda is a _distribution_ of Python that includes the ...
these is a nice one
pine hedge
anyone know how I can convert this to work on windows?
"start": "touch .env.local && sh -ac 'sh .env.${NODE_ENV:-local}; PORT=${PORT:-3000} EXTEND_ESLINT=true BROWSER=none react-scripts start'",
How much swap should I use with 8gb ram
formal schooner
if i have enough disk space, i still do the old 1:1
that way i can have 1000 tabs open and whatever other stupid shit im doing and still be able to hibernate
i use a swapfile, not a partition. just easier to set up (and easier to resize if you change your mind)
rich adder
How much swap should I use with 8gb ram
4
terse heron
idiot @ocean bobcat
signal knoll
idiot <@!508928734838128641>
Let's not insult other users here please, as per our #rules and #code-of-conduct
hushed heart
i just installed arch can i have some desktop environment recomendations?
main olive
GNOME
hushed heart
makes sense
main olive
makes sense
I personally use kali theme even on non kali distros
cause i like new kali gnome theme so much
hushed heart
i mean yea it is pretty nice
main olive
if you are coming from Mac or want Mac design dock and finder
something like this maybe
hushed heart
if i didnt know it was linux
i wouldve actually thought it was a mac
my sister is using some old imac as her computer
hushed heart
yeah i wanna get a macbook
hushed heart
i think it would be pretty useful
and i love how i can use usb c to plug it into a monitor
hushed heart
yeah but like
i kinda never had a laptop
i only had desktops
towers
so it's all pretty new to me
ig
and it seems nice to like stay in bed and have a bigger screen than a tablet or phone
main olive
in terms of laptops i dont know
i would still bet you would get the best experience in terms of smoothness and fluidness
if you go with MacOS
main olive
MacOS is pretty customizable
main olive
in some ways i was even able to achieve more on macos than on linux
hushed heart
or however its called
main olive
like remapping keys
hushed heart
yeah
main olive
is way simpler on macos
hushed heart
i mean i guess mac is way more user friendly
kinda like windows
but not as privacy invasive?
and it always looked really nice
hushed heart
lmao
main olive
in terms of latest
apple laptops and their macos versions
its horrible
actually horrible
hushed heart
yeah
thats why i want to switch to linux
but it's pretty hard
since i wanna game on it
and i'd have to make a kvm
etc etc
main olive
you are switching to linux from windows?
hushed heart
yeah
main olive
i wouldnt suggest going with KDE
honestly
especially if you dont have a good machine in terms of specs
animations and everything is smoother in gnome
hushed heart
i think it's pretty solid
main olive
from my experience
hushed heart
i see
hushed heart
i have a ryzen 5 5600x 32gb ram gtx 1070 ti and maybe if i make a kvm i have a 1060 lying around
still waiting to get a 3080
main olive
i guess
then running KDE and
installing tons of tweaks
wouldnt be an issue
@hushed heart
try gnome first
start simple
if you feel like its not enough
upgrade to KDE
and install any of the thousands of cool themes people have created for KDE specifically
hushed heart
yeah
main olive
you've seen some online already i assume
hushed heart
yeah
main olive
and whenever i want more aesthetics
hushed heart
ye
hushed heart
yeah makes sense
main olive
if you put MacOS next to some good KDE theme
MacOS would be hard to beat
still
its as good as operating systems get
in terms of visuals
hushed heart
yeah
main olive
even windows 11 is stealing some features from macos
like the dock
so it must mean its good
main olive
whats a window docking
exactly
you mean
grids
as opposed just 2
spaces
on the sides
i mean sure terminal only needs to take up one corner aka one fourth of whole screen space
but i doubt this would be useful
for the end user
maybe i am only saying it cause i am always used to alt tabbing
between my windows
hushed heart
maybe i am only saying it cause i am always used to alt tabbing
yeah i always alt tab
main olive
they should've made windows 11 open source
hushed heart
they should've made windows 11 open source
imagine
that would've been amazing
yeah
i was gonna say the same thing
main olive
honestly they can still earn money from proprietary apps like microsoft store
and etc
i dont know how much money they earn from spying on users
due to the code being closed source
hushed heart
honestly they can still earn money from proprietary apps like microsoft store
and who buys things from the microsoft store though
main olive
everyone
main olive
you are forgetting about gamers
hushed heart
i mean yea it's a store but it kinda sucks imo
main olive
PC/Xbox gamers buy from microsoft store
hushed heart
then i havent used it enough
main olive
you just dont play as much
hushed heart
i mean yea i guess
idk but it would be amazing to port old games to the microsoft store and pc
cuz like
main olive
they do
hushed heart
i dont want to pull out my xbox to play skate 3
main olive
microsoft has good backwards compatibility
hushed heart
yeah true
hushed heart
i think i just play really unpopular games
hushed heart
you can run 15-20 year old games
windows xp pinball
main olive
that ran on previous windows versions
main olive
if those system requirements were legit
then i can hardly imagine how much more bloat
did they include in the source code
for this windows
as if we could get any more bloat
than on windows 10
hushed heart
yeah
main olive
its not a massive upgrade from windows 10 visually so wtf
hushed heart
that's probably why im not going to download windows 11 any time soon
main olive
xp source code got leaked so you could take a look
hushed heart
and by that time i think i'll just use linux
hushed heart
xp source code got leaked so you could take a look
oh yeah i forgot about that
hushed heart
main olive
windows 11 hasnt been released yet
maybe those requirements were exaggerated
only a small vocal minority even knows about those system requirements
yet billions will probably use windows 11
in 5 years
how many computers have windows 10 installed
have you got any vague numbers
in mind
"most secure" yet "most vulnerable"
i dont get whats the deal with microsoft
when you compare benchmarks of stock windows 10 vs debloated windows 10
it really makes you wonder how is adding so much bloat in any way a good business strategy
are they just forcing people to buy newer hardware
by bloating windows
intentionally
they can make it more lightweight
they surely can
it isnt really easy
there are 3rd party apps that help
but without them your normie user wouldnt
figure out
@obsidian maple do you use any non android/ios phone
by any chance
i presume not samsung
phone
you dont remember
the brand of your phone
that is exciting
indeed
surprising
you use linux right
besides windows
how do you handle samsung + google intergration
with tons of popup
for creating accounts
for both
like usually android only pushes you to create and integrate google accounts
into your phone
but with samsung phones its that but also samsung accounts
even more bloat
even that is my primary reason for
being reluctant to switching to android phones
even though i want to
its googled
tho
i probably trust apple more than google
cause at least apple preaches about security every conference they have
while yes being shady in reality
but google doesnt even bring up security
as much
makes me only more suspicious of them
you dont have a privacy if you use a gmail account
youtube is tolerable and understandable
but gmail
google can read your emails
you need to switch email provider asap
lonely
clean of what
any messages
thats not really making it clean
its just not using it
whatsoever
though
isnt it
i am finally gonna host by own email server
i am trying to buy a good domain name currently
not a website
just an email server
and hosting some stuff for my work
when you host your own email server you cant really have a domain name like cheekybomber.com
cause then as soon as anyone sees an email coming from john@cheekybomber.com
they would insta block
you
came up with it
point is it needs to be normal
otherwise people wont read it
guys so im a total linux noob
some only trust emails ending with @gmail.com
lol
yes i did some but i got a error
in terminal
what is your error
bash: git: command not found
already done that
pl ot dod
i meant ok it did
how
i did
it showed a bunch of stuff
yes
lot of
/usr/share/doc/git/relnotes/1.6.5.8.txt
i think so
/usr/share/doc/git/contrib/git-shell-commands/help
ok i did
yes
i already did that
i think upgrading python messed with all the things
it all happened after it
python 3 latest
ok
it deleted some of my apps
why is that
oh ok so i dont need to install everything again right?
ok i installed it
what i need to do rn
git clone
lol i just forgot i cant copy things from vm
yes i will use this to use my phone as security cam
if there is another option send it to me
bash: git: command not found
install git again?
i did sudo apt install git again
i did su root
and python and some other stuff
i have on login
kali
just eh
just learning about it really
oh yea thats obv haha
maybe i'll switch to parrot os kali is kinda buggy
yeah i dont i use w10
for daily use
im testing stuff on my own phone and pc
so i dont think anything illegal
dont have too much ram
i have 8
but it doesnt work out
the windows vm i tried to use is just too buggy
yea
its kinda a mess
even if im hacking myself?
also i got this kali .ova from another website
its not official
it came with a course
i think i copy from my vm
its my friends tag i copied it to add him
like?
oh ok i gotta be careful
u also ethical hack or?
oh cool
what os u use?
for eh?
which distro
ethical hacking?
no what do u use for ethical hacking
should i get it from kali.org
ok let me do that
is vmware better or vbox
32 bit or 64
oh my processor is x64 the last kali i had was 32
maybe thats why
also do you have a good tutorial for kali and ethical hacking
oh ok
i already have one but idk if its good its from zsecurity.org
or something like that
its has 158k subs on yt
and its the top rated course on udemy
oh i saw him
yea his vids are pretty fun
i didnt get the nano etc stuff tho
i couldnt save it
tried that
i think i broke it with the insert thing
i tried proxychains
yea that worked
on openvpn
i know some
but not so much
thats true
every day you learn something new
and have more experience
sorry my english is a bit bad lol
looks kinda complicated
what do you mean by that
oh
thats interesting
also if i clone random gits
can i get hacked?
oh this kinda looks like ls
do i need some C knowledge to understand these stuff
do u know any programming?
oh im too young for that haha
i just did some java
well thats young
i started in 12
bc i didnt have pc
yea i wont
i know some java for minecraft plugins and a bit of opengl
which languages did you do
also i think we are both 15?
i got 15 last month
what do you do generally in coding or ethical hacking
yea
cool same i make fun projects with opengl
kinda learning that also
did someone like your family or school made you start programming or you find about it yourself
thats good
how many hrs a day u program or do ethical hacking
like average a day?
im just trying to figure out how many hrs a day makes you better
or how you got this far
yea i have less time bc of soccer training and stuff
but i try to learn as much as i can
same
is it like house chores or?
thats cool
i dont do house chores really bc i also work
thats cool i did that when my windows broke
no my hard drive fried so i made a bootable usb
oof
download failed
network error
and i have 2mbps internet
im unlucky
i live in a village so its not really possible
i use usb tethering and use my phone internet on my pc
we dont have ethernet base or any fiber base here
its only in the center of the city
so its pretty unlucky
do you live in us?
thats cool
good oppurtunities,good economy,good system,not corrupt
u think its different?
you cant just pass the school by giving money or get a fake diploma
like here
any lot of other examples
why
1st one
how
bullying and stuff?