ot2-the-original-pubsta

[lusty brook]

lemme find it

[pseudo creek]

who do you think actually did the shenanigansing of the rng? shenanigans the doggo or joe the co-owner?

[lusty brook]

can't find any examples sadly

[versed wigeon]

i used to think joe was the supreme owner but now that you say "co-owner" i reconsider my thoughts

[lusty brook]

we don't actually have a contract but it's a running joke

[pseudo creek]

could be staging a coup to become supreme owner by converting the rng first

[versed wigeon]

so basically it's just "no bad practice, in code or in action"

[pseudo creek]

also, discord: fix your kerning - "rng" looks terrible

[versed wigeon]

rnachine guns

wait what would a rnachine gun look like

[lusty brook]

lol

running joke, indeed

[jovial island]

@dire kindle i know who you are now😳

[dire kindle]

who am I

[jovial island]

icyyyy😏

[dire kindle]

who is icy

[jovial island]

youuuuu

[dire kindle]

Prove it 😼

[jovial island]

🥰

[dire kindle]

Probably I replied to the wrong message, who knows

[jovial island]

https://github.com/xCirno1/discordheximals thats weird because i remember that a certain user named icy gave a commit with a classmethod that returns a random value of a callable

[fluid plank]

lesser than 500

[jovial island]

😳

[fluid plank]

[jovial island]

my max is 741 functions😭

[dire kindle]

Okay, so, icy is the old me and a completely different person , also bad at doing stuff, now I'm cirno, nice to meet you

[jovial island]

i missed you, i thought you left or something

[dire kindle]

, no one ever missed me

[jovial island]

guess im no one😔

[dire kindle]

why do you suddenly remembered me though?

[jovial island]

hehe

well....

sarthak said to me "something something icy"

and i remembered what happen to that wonderful person

so then i used the search button and i search messages from me that included the keyword icy

and so you replied to one of the messages

hehehe im a secret fbi agent

[dire kindle]

Oh, wow, someone finally searched for me

[jovial island]

ofc you were so nice to me when i was such a little noob

[dire kindle]

Ahh, so cute, I'll probably be nicer to noobs then

[jovial island]

yes, ive been better skill wise in coding and my life has been better as well what about youuuuu💓

[dire kindle]

I'm also much better than when I was named icy (I finally got some work to do, I was totally jobless before)

[jovial island]

what do you do now if you don't mind me asking?

[dire kindle]

I build websites, full-stack developer soon :)

[jovial island]

oh wow thats so cool. i want to be a back end developer one day😮

[dire kindle]

If you really have the will to do that, you'll definitely achieve it, like you're really improving since the first time I met you :)

[jovial island]

how you know???

and im so proud of you, youve grown so muchhhhh🥰

[dire kindle]

I saw your repo

[jovial island]

😏 😳

[dire kindle]

Haha, thanks

[jovial island]

wow, time goes by fast😅

[dire kindle]

wait, how do you know that I'm younger than you?

[jovial island]

youre not😭

[dire kindle]

I am...

[jovial island]

how old are you

[dire kindle]

I'm 14

[jovial island]

waaaaaaa

[dire kindle]

lol

[jovial island]

i thought you were 18😭

[dire kindle]

Yeah, poeple often said I'm 16 or smth

[jovial island]

yeah well guess i am older 😅

[dire kindle]

but I'm glad I'm still young, so I still have time to learn many new things

[jovial island]

yup me and you were so ahead of everyone

im mostly starting early because i want to be ahead of everyone and because i love what i do

[dire kindle]

Me too, I want to know stuff more than anyone else in my age, so I get the effort to learn!

[jovial island]

yup its all about thinking ahead!

[dire kindle]

But as you got better, it's somehow hard to get help with our problems, google doesn't help much, and I think that's an obstacle for me to be better

[jovial island]

yeah i mostly just hangout with people who are maybe more experienced or older than me as theyre more humble

its not always the case tho!

[dire kindle]

true

but anyways, I need to go, nice talk btw, cya!

[jovial island]

ah thats ok sorry for being on your back too much, anyways cya loved the conversation, take care💓

[fluid plank]

i saw you

[jovial island]

you did?😳

[jovial island]

mhmmmm

[jovial island]

[jovial island]

Ferris and gophers and a space turtle 🥰

[fluid plank]

it is zig's mascot

[jovial island]

oh

[jovial island]

rust~

and then i notice the go lang's gopher.

[smoky island]

Isn't it someone from kerbal space program, like Brad's pfp?

[fluid plank]

https://ziglang.org

[smoky island]

Yeah ok you won

[brazen jacinth]

@slate leaf is so dedicated towards moderating that he cloned himself multiple times!

God bless him

[remote widget]

Or he's too lazy to moderate himself that he made clones 👀

[foggy flicker]

He's my alt afterall

[proud wyvern]

[coral rampart]

hey

[wide bane]

Hey, do you know that WomboAI app which can animate your face and "make you sing a song"? I am just curious, how is it done programatically? For example if you submit a photo of your face where you are calm a with mouth shut, and the app makes you sing "Ho ho ho", how does it animate your mouth?

[hoary fjord]

https://api-first-world.com/

[unreal sigil]

Machine learning

[hoary fjord]

specifically most likely a type of GAN model

as those are typically used for image generation

[digital bane]

Hi drinking coffee rn

Look at this 666 commits lmao

[remote widget]

Lmao

[red hazel]

It's called deepfakes afaik. You use machine learning and facial detection points and GAN models and stuffs to make that

[red hazel]

Damn, what was you even doing on that 💀

[digital bane]

Yep mua hahaha

Make a pure python 2D 3D graphics library from scratch

See https://github.com/TechnoTanuki/Python_BMP

[brazen jacinth]

is it on pypi

those are a lot of py files on first sight

[digital bane]

Not yet

[digital bane]

Those are mostly sample code

One file thou is 12K lines and thats the main library

[wraith osprey]

i like cactus

it's my favorite plant

[upper lance]

in other news, @soft quiver have u made a dpy slash tutorial and if so can u link me?

[onyx galleon]

Cactii are badass. They like no one. Get closed, get pricked.

[spring herald]

Heya! Could any of you recommend the best browser in your opinion? A browser that exceeds in various factors such as security, load speed, etc.

[zinc temple]

I use firefox because of customizability and its open sourced

If i was to use a chromium browser, itd either be brave or opera

[jovial island]

anyone knows what the japanese characters mean? i have been using this image on my portfolio site for a long time but i still dunno what this means

[wild compass]

try google translate?

[hollow heart]

i can pick out like 30% lol

[jovial island]

i cant type all that out

[hollow heart]

top line: according to what _ (says), that's some adverb wrong

[jovial island]

hmm

[wild compass]

i think (at least on the google translate app) that you can scan images to translate text

[jovial island]

thats a mobile thing yeah

[hollow heart]

ah maybe

top line: according to someone, that's some adverb wrong

[jovial island]

hmmmm

the mystery of the weird japanese text continues

[wild compass]

lul

[hollow heart]

the text is broken up horizontally, id be curious to see how well google does with it

[wild compass]

hm yeah

[jovial island]

i should try asking on some image board

dont got a phone rn

[wild compass]

"If anyone says it's wrong with hope,
Tell them that they are different every time" - according to google translate

[jovial island]

hmmmm

[hollow heart]

ah 希望

do you have the text in japanese as well?

or does it only give translated

[wild compass]

it only gives me translated

[hollow heart]

can you translate it to korean?

yeah, it's kanji

jp > kor translations are fairly accurate because it's almost 1:1 and then i can translate from kor > eng

all kanji is chinese characters

[wild compass]

ok i tried translate.yandex.com, and it says:
"If someone says it is wrong to hope,
each time they are to be loved."

[hollow heart]

in japanese there is kana (hiragana, katakana) and kanji

in korean there is hangeul and hanja

hanja is also chinese characters

[wild compass]

there are chinese characters in korean?

i thought that was only japanese

[hollow heart]

it's not used daily like it is in japan

[wild compass]

and isnt korean written phonetically?

[hollow heart]

but official government documents or old newspapers you will see hanja

it is, hangeul is phonetic

[wild compass]

hm ic

[hollow heart]

yes, though they'd sound different bc of dialects

but like seoul and busan and jeju speakers will also all sound different

some linguists even consider the language of jeju to be its own language

actually i watched a video of seoul in the 80s and they sounded like how north koreans sound now

[wild compass]

interesting

[hollow heart]

just goes to show languages change

2020s korean is a whole other beast with the internet slang

i kept up until around 2010 lmao

no they're not really a factor in how korean slang evolved

they're a factor in the exposure of korean to other countries though

[unreal sigil]

A lot of english words have mixed into everyday korean speech from what I've heard

[hollow heart]

that's always been the case but it's next level now

[wild compass]

my friend was listening to korean rap and they switched between korean and english quite a bit

[hollow heart]

that's one thing different btwn n and s korea. n koreans won't use loan words from other languages

so in s korea a cell phone is "hand phone" whereas in n korea it's literally the korean words for "hand" and "phone" put together

which i think is not bad at all

[wild compass]

wait they call it "hand phone" in english? interesting

[hollow heart]

yeah but with korean-ized pronunciation and syllables

that's the case with loan words in general, isn't it?

yeah i recognize 手

lol these emoji came up as suggestions

電話 is phone in japanese
you probably recognize these characters

is it not tradition vs simplified?

writing system btwn canto and mandarin is the same i thought

[wild compass]

hm

[wild compass]

i thought so too

[hollow heart]

so you asked earlier, you could write this word in kana: でんわ
and you could write it in hangeul too: 전화

but japanese people will 10000000% write that word in kanji, not kana

whereas koreans will 99.9999% write that word in hangeul

unless like, it's an exam and you're asked to write the hanja

[wild compass]

so... there are two ways of writing the exact same thing?

sounds like a lot of extra work :P

[hollow heart]

simplified was to reduce that work, presumably, no?

then there's pinyin

makes sense since spoken form is completely different btwn the two

[hollow heart]

was this directed at me?
bc yeah there are tons of words that sound the same but have different meanings, esp in japanese

so writing them in kanji totally helps with reading comprehension

reading a long chunk of text only in hiragana is gonna be painful

japanese has no spaces between words

whereas korean does

[wild compass]

i was directing it at the fact you said that you can write the same things in kana and kanji

[hollow heart]

yeah

[wild compass]

but ig some might have slightly differing meanings

[hollow heart]

kana is the phoneticization(?) of the kanji

[wild compass]

uh, i mightve mixed up terms, bc this is just a bit confusing 😅

[hollow heart]

in the context of that japanese word

there is a completely different reading/pronunciation if you're talking about the kanji itself << ok this was not totally accurate, read link below

good stuff. this is why people say learning japanese is hard lmao

im also not doing a perfect job explaining it

i never taught the language

[wild compass]

its alright

[hollow heart]

https://www.fluentu.com/blog/japanese/onyomi-and-kunyomi/

[wild compass]

interesting, but also makes japanese seem like an even harder language to learn

[hollow heart]

i think the US government has a ranking where they group hardest languages to learn for english speakers

pretty sure chinese, jp, kor are the hardest group, along with arabic

[wild compass]

hm

[hollow heart]

but that's from a native english speaker's viewpoint

[jovial island]

@hollow heart @wild compass found it

[hollow heart]

ahaha

im still interested in seeing the japanese txt though, not as an img

[jovial island]

nice

[hollow heart]

reposting

the bottom line is really hard to make out

[jovial island]

true

[hollow heart]

ohh i figured out one of the words i wasn't getting

毎回 (まいかい)

every time

[jovial island]

whats the syntax to get the text on image hover thingy in html?

like if i hover my arrow over an image it will show me the alt text or something

[hollow heart]

alt?

it's alt

[jovial island]

alt doesnt do anything if i hover over it tho

it just shows when the image fails to load

like this

[hollow heart]

oh not alt. title?

[jovial island]

hmm

[hollow heart]

i googled

not sure

[jovial island]

yep

yeah works

[hollow heart]

i thought i remembered alt working on hover

[jovial island]

same

[hollow heart]

or maybe i was using old bugged IE

[jovial island]

[wild compass]

hm google translate was close

changed "to hope" to "with hope"

[jovial island]

also change wrong to different in second line

[wild compass]

oh yeah

[brazen jacinth]

is this channel taken?

doesn't look it

@sturdy relic @jovial island - since Tmail isn't getting commits I made this https://github.com/HRLO77/CLImail

I'm gonna go have breakfast now

[hollow heart]

unless i missed it, where's the cli portion?

[brazen jacinth]

not there yet

sadly

[hollow heart]

i'm into CLIs at the moment but also trying to learn to implement tests and logging and my brain became mush

[daring jay]

Please specify versions in the requirements.txt thanks

[brazen jacinth]

alr

[hollow heart]

isn't that all stdlib?

[brazen jacinth]

yes

i did it anyway

[hollow heart]

lol

[daring jay]

I have no idea, the stdlib is huge

[hollow heart]

i think i've used all 5 of those, so i recognize them as stdlib

typing, is, obviously

[hollow heart]

but what happens when someone tries to pip install your requirements.txt? something to think about

i think it's probably not a good idea ..

[brazen jacinth]

yeah im fixing that right now, should've thought about that

[hollow heart]

do you know what you're gonna use for the CLI functionality?

[brazen jacinth]

no not yet

perhaps argparse

[hollow heart]

i've tried just plain input, argparse, and click

[brazen jacinth]

this is my first time making a cli, it would be a fun project

[hollow heart]

graduating from input() was very nice lol, i loved argparse in that it showed me A Better Way

[brazen jacinth]

i hope i can say the same

i go to start practice typing again

[hollow heart]

you'll love it i bet!

[brazen jacinth]

yeah

i'm gonna love it after breakfast, i've been up for 2 and a half hours without it

[jovial island]

Ay

So how will you send emails from accounts?

SMTP doesn't work anymore ig

[brazen jacinth]

it does

if you send me your email over dm's rn, i could email you with it

(don't send me ur email)

[willow plinth]

PS E:\Computer Science\Python> py --version
Python 3.11.0b1
PS E:\Computer Science\Python> py
Python 3.11.0b1 (main, May  7 2022, 22:58:47) [MSC v.1931 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> class Foo:
...   def foo() -> Foo:
...      ...
...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
  File "<stdin>", line 2, in Foo
NameError: name 'Foo' is not defined

why dont this work?

[sinful sun]

you need to do "Foo"

or you can from __future__ import annotations

[willow plinth]

aren't they supposed to be strings in 3.11?

[sinful sun]

wdym

the problem really is evaluation of type hints while names are still defined/in the process of being defined

you use strings to get past the name errors and python will resolve the types after the class is defined

or you import from future

more info https://peps.python.org/pep-0484/#forward-references

[willow plinth]

annotations = _Feature((3, 7, 0, "beta", 1),
                       (3, 11, 0, "alpha", 0),
                       CO_FUTURE_ANNOTATIONS)

this should be there in alpha, thats why im askin

[sinful sun]

https://mail.python.org/archives/list/[e-mail]/thread/CLVXXPQ2T2LQ5MP2Y53VVQFCXYWQJHKZ/

they were going to be default in 3.10+ but it seems they didnt want to break other things

i cant find anything about them being in 3.11 alpha or otherwise but my google-fu might just be weak

you could ask in #internals-and-peps

[versed wigeon]

no

not even in 3.12

[willow plinth]

oh

[versed wigeon]

Python 3.12.0a0 (main, May 16 2022, 09:15:19) [MSC v.1931 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> class A:
...     def __init__(self: A, *a, **k): pass
...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
    class A:
    ^^^^^^^^
  File "<stdin>", line 2, in A
    def __init__(self: A, *a, **k): pass
                       ^
NameError: name 'A' is not defined

[willow plinth]

why does future say 3.11.a then?

[sinful sun]

what kind of code would it break if this was default

i dont think i get it

but i dont really use pydantic or django

[versed wigeon]

just don't worry about it

[remote widget]

Wait how did u download 3.12? They working on both 3.11 and 3.12?

[narrow onyx]

sry wrong channle

[versed wigeon]

repo download

[brazen jacinth]

i've been trying to get past phase 1 on this forever, if anyone's got any tips on bone platforms 4 it would be much appreciated. (sorry if the quality was bad, limited the recording fps to 30 on obs)

[lofty loom]

For a second I thought this was the original fight

Then I noticed the music

Sans Rush Hour

[brazen jacinth]

I had a really bad time

[hollow heart]

something you should look into https://wpmailsmtp.com/gmail-less-secure-apps/

smth is changing may 30

[brazen jacinth]

yeah, i know

thanks btw

[wraith osprey]

WRYYYYYYYYYYY

someone watch jojo?

[brazen jacinth]

not me

[languid osprey]

as far as I know, and according to the docs, pydantic just works with delayed annotations

[full marlin]

!resources

[clever salmon]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[wraith osprey]

i want use my gay-meter

[dire sedge]

<@&831776746206265384> i guess

[hollow heart]

?

[wraith osprey]

i can show u in % how much u gay

[hollow heart]

!ban 664050133675016202 given your earlier warning i think you had ample time to read our code of conduct. i'm not certain this community is the right one for you if you care so much about detecting LGBT when you've said before that you hate them.

[clever salmon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @wraith osprey permanently.

[pearl sage]

Did John Tiffany read and watched Harry Potter?

[dire sedge]

i don't know but most likely yes

i think that that would be this image also i don't know if you wanted it in dm or here so i just assumed here

[pearl sage]

I found a few in the story

[onyx galleon]

happy to get photography feedback?

[dire sedge]

ofc how else can i improve

[onyx galleon]

just making sure, some folk dont like received feedback
I dont know how far you in or how much you know, but for teh above pic I recommend cropping out unnecessary details and moving the cat from a more central point in the picture to the right quadrant(?) of the rule of thirds

the bottom layer of the bricks as well as the top of the house roof is distracting imo

[dire sedge]

you mean something like this

@onyx galleon do you mean something like that because for me that feels a bit to much cropped for some reason

[onyx galleon]

Kind of, here's my example, might be similar

Nah mine is a little less cropped, so aspect ratio is off from the standard 16:9, but same idea

[dire sedge]

so something like this

[onyx galleon]

Yeah, little bit better, no? :P

[dire sedge]

maybe can't really tell at this point maybe over 20 min

[onyx galleon]

come back to it later a bit yeah, but to me this is instantly better than the original

[dire sedge]

the original was already cropped a little bit

i should've zoomed in a bit with the lens would've also caused a bit more background blur

[onyx galleon]

yeah, if you look at some of Adobe Lightroom's tutorials (at least on mobile), frequently the tutorial makers crop photos to better illustrate the subject in the photo

yeah, background blur massively helps with that as well

[dire sedge]

i will have to wait for another day when 1 of the 3 cats sits there again it happens quite a lot

[onyx galleon]

👍 keep it up

[dire sedge]

i will thx for the feedback and the time you took to help me

[onyx galleon]

always happy to help a fellow photographer

[edgy bane]

hi guys

how are you

[dire sedge]

i'm quite good

at least right now

[edgy bane]

cool mate so i see you guys are photographers

that is cool

[dire sedge]

i didn't start that long ago

[edgy bane]

have i shown my py program to you im working on..? i think i have already shown you

[dire sedge]

i don't think you have yet

[edgy bane]

ok, well it accepts images, gifs/webps, and even videos and processes them to output in terminal. - pure console app no external gui

[tepid edge]

cool

[dire sedge]

oh it seems quite interesting (just used the search function from discord to see some of the results)

[edgy bane]

yea cool glad you like it

maybe if you want to try it on your image you can send one

[wheat ibex]

🥔

[jovial island]

why do the offtopic channels get there name changed alot

[lusty brook]

they are changed daily automatically using names chosen by mods+

[jovial island]

@broken trout so it basically worked with a Client object ```py
import pokelance

client = pokelance.Client(cache_data=True/False)

async def main():
await client.get_pokemon('pokemon name'/id)

[broken trout]

mhm

[jovial island]

in case the pokemon wasnt found by the api, it returned a 404 error

so i simply raised an error in that case

[broken trout]

yeah u can use difflib here

!d difflib.get_close_matches

[clever salmon]

difflib.get\_close\_matches

difflib.get_close_matches(word, possibilities, n=3, cutoff=0.6)```
Return a list of the best “good enough” matches. *word* is a sequence for which close matches are desired (typically a string), and *possibilities* is a list of sequences against which to match *word* (typically a list of strings).

Optional argument *n* (default `3`) is the maximum number of close matches to return; *n* must be greater than `0`.

Optional argument *cutoff* (default `0.6`) is a float in the range [0, 1]. Possibilities that don’t score at least that similar to *word* are ignored.

The best (no more than *n*) matches among the possibilities are returned in a list, sorted by similarity score, most similar first.

[broken trout]

i added all Pokemon names in a list so when user requires u can get the nearest guess using difflib

[jovial island]

😔 that would be really bad bad because pokemon names are too similar,
like pichu and pikachu .. and more

[jovial island]

ah

https://github.com/sarthhh/pokelance/blob/bde9a7d2879e77e3ac3f2e76cb9a1ff45b64603b/pokelance/http.py#L20-L34 my current api request method

[broken trout]

yeah but u can limit the number of return results

and it's pretty accurate

from what i used

[jovial island]

ill try

but currently i have no interest in working with the wrapper

im making a bot which extends the usability of another bot

Shoob bot to be specific

[broken trout]

oh nice

what's shoob bot?

[jovial island]

its basically an anime card based game

https://shoob.gg

[broken trout]

mhm nice

[jovial island]

hey oki

[broken trout]

looks huge

[jovial island]

it is widely used

[jovial island]

shouldnt BASE_URL be a class var as its only used in the class? and why is their a open connection just use context managers and why the useless data var if you arent even using it in another place or mutating it?

its old, but rewrite😏

[broken trout]

lmao

[jovial island]

never gonna rewrite it

atleast for now

and use built in union bro

[jovial island]

the inbuilt annotations does not have an Any, and now since i imported typing and used it once why not be consistent with it? not like its gonna matter in the runtime

[jovial island]

wouldnt that matter as your accessing more classes?

just use annotations

from __future__ import annotations allow thats , from 3.7

yes

[jovial island]

thats literally milliseconds, and since ive imported Any once, importing other classes too wont matter

[versed wigeon]

i don't like milliseconds and above

[jovial island]

well i checked and reddit says python is slow on importing stuff but idk

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[latent basin]

is there a term for the full removal of something which was previously only deprecated?

[jovial island]

reddit... anyways
as soon as i from typing import Any which the builtin would no way be able to suffice , the typing module has been included in the pyc, so whats the problem with importing others too when they wont change any memory usage

[jovial island]

reddit 😳 , well i can't really say on performance wise as i dont spend my time timing everything

what were you talking about then? 😑 the way it looks?

[versed wigeon]

i time everything all the time

[jovial island]

[versed wigeon]

to get a performance boost do py import typing Any = typing.Any del typing instead of from typing import Any

[jovial island]

yes i Hate it 😏

[jovial island]

or better just use string annotations lol

[versed wigeon]

i'm also wasting time when i don't

so what's the point here

[jovial island]

obj: "Any"

[versed wigeon]

while we're on the topic of time
if we waste time to save time, do we really save time?

in the long run maybe

[jovial island]

what if time is just a concept and isnt real

😳

[versed wigeon]

it isn't real

it's there to help us keep track of at what moment we should be doing something

[jovial island]

time god

i could be popping the spoilers in cereal's aboutme but i forgot to turn of the show spoiler content settings

*off

stress for you

even discord doesnt want the stress to get away from me

tehe

anyways, i have maths exams in a few days so ill go study, bai bai

[jovial island]

i finished school haha 😏

good luck on the exam cough cough i never took math this year🏂

[jovial island]

tf

werent you just 15

[versed wigeon]

sometimes it's just a genius

don't worry about them there's about 7 more

[jovial island]

agreed, oki is rweally smort

[jovial island]

i am

i just didnt had a teacher

for the whole year

wait you werent talking about that

well now you know why i didnt took math but i finished already cuz yes

[remote widget]

I mean, isn't that the reason people use typing.TYPE_CHECKING lol

[willow plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-hanging-out-hang-in-there-puppy-fur-baby-gif-18568564

[jovial island]

what do u guys think bout my portfolio vid?? (link in my about me)

[jovial island]

Joke’s on you pal, I like Rick Astley.

https://tenor.com/view/epic-fail-fail-fall-bike-bmx-gif-24422010

https://tenor.com/view/fail-mission-failed-call-of-duty-ghost-gif-13071756

[brazen jacinth]

for context, this guy is in a class server, joined once, never spoke or went online ever

[remote widget]

Lmao

[jovial island]

Why would she try that xdd

[jovial island]

Smartest discord user

Man who wanna see my dog

[jovial island]

That is a very cute and adorable dog

[jovial island]

Tyy

More?

🥰

So cute

She’s very lazy xD, she loves to play

I also have two cats If u wanna see

She’s cute. What’s her name?

And sure but disclaimer I’m not as fan of cats 👀

[jovial island]

uh, her name is Асий

Asii basically

Cute name

ty

Meditating cat.
Thinking cat.

I don’t know lol he just sleeps 24/7

He do be winking

[remote widget]

@jovial island u do be lucky to have pets

My parents are scared of them

[jovial island]

Yeah xD

wow, sorry to hear that

[remote widget]

Used to it now haha

[jovial island]

my puppy is so adorable

[remote widget]

Agreed

And so is yr cat holding a gun

Cat Police

[jovial island]

Gangster cat

[lofty loom]

Mafia Cat

[remote widget]

Lmao

[jovial island]

Even birds?

Dude, my dog loves to play with the gray cat

my gray cat litterally hug him and slapped him xD

One of my birbs

[remote widget]

Eh, never got birds in the house, but they basically hate pets cz the mess they make is unbelievable sometimes

[lofty loom]

Oh look its Master Shifu

[remote widget]

Lmao the moment would have been damn cute

[jovial island]

I guess once you move out of your parents house you’ll get your own pet

[jovial island]

5 secs later my cat slapped the dog

[remote widget]

Yup, that's one thing in my bucket list, among others

[remote widget]

Lmaooo

[jovial island]

I wish you the best in crossing off that bucket list

Mine is to move out and live alone some day.

[remote widget]

Haha I got a huge number of things in my bucket list, first being, getting a job as a software dev

[jovial island]

Damn what he dreaming abt 🤣🤣

[remote widget]

Lmao

[jovial island]

Probably tuna

Adorable

[remote widget]

Lmao imagine yr cat slapping the dog while he's sleeping

[jovial island]

I’d love to work remotely so I can buy myself a van and travel Europe… some day, some day…

[remote widget]

No plans to work remotely, I just wanna settle in the USA

[jovial island]

bro I don’t know why, but he loves to sit

[remote widget]

Lmao

[jovial island]

Then he died

[lofty loom]

What if he's evolving to grow legs

Bipedal legs

[jovial island]

Look at the image above I’m pretty sure he isn’t, if he was he wouldn’t be dumb enough to play dead when he has to the vet 😂😂

hi

Hey

[brazen jacinth]

!otn cute-pet-pics-only

[remote widget]

!otn a cute-pet-pics-only

Lol

[remote widget]

@broken trout I only play Fortnite, GTA 5 Online sometimes and they don't have ranked lol

Tho I always die in the top 10 in fortnite for some reason

[broken trout]

lmao

[remote widget]

I almost never get mad at it

Since I just try to learn and have fun instead of grind like others

[broken trout]

i used to play lol fortnite a bit and supercell games few times

now stopped everything🥲

[remote widget]

Haha I only play those 2 games

[jovial island]

.

[edgy apex]

ssh coffee@49.572.392.18

$ brew

[cedar leaf]

I hate Poetry, that is all, I'm so sad this system has be wrapped around this runtime that will eat it's own

[spiral ember]

you have to brew first!

[digital bane]

Coffee

[jovial island]

I love walking into June the First and then searching !ban here /s

[tawdry sonnet]

Sounds like a good time! How do you search "!ban"?

[jovial island]

I mean, searching !ban in the Discord search will do

[tawdry sonnet]

ofc 😆

[sinful sun]

Why

It works well enough

The only issues i've had with poetry was updating poetry itself

And some doc issues but they should have been updated by now

[ionic canyon]

@ashen imp

[ashen imp]

Hey bro@ionic canyon

[ionic canyon]

Ok see 74% of the worlds websites run php as a backend, which is already pretty big but you have the fact that product driven companies dont usually create non web apps to sell products because whos gonna download that?

Also php developers get paid a lot

[ashen imp]

Oh!! Kk

Understandable✌

[ionic canyon]

and rms loves php just look at his face when he sees php code

https://tenor.com/view/richard-stallman-stallman-rms-emacs-gnu-gif-23943451

[full haven]

How do you ssh into coffee, I only accessed hot chocolate

[remote widget]

Weird, I got access to cream

[tawdry sonnet]

it's in the brew cycle...be patient!

[full haven]

I'm going to take this out of context

[tawdry sonnet]

lotsa coffee drinkers in the am

[full haven]

Ah, I see. I'll try again soon

[dire kindle]

@remote widget I hope my high school life isn't like yours, I would like a lot of "free time" to sharpen our talents

[remote widget]

Hahaha if u r gonna take science, then I don't think u gonna have enough time apart from studies

But then, idrk yr subjects and what chapters u study in highschool

[dire kindle]

😔

[remote widget]

I won't have been here chilling if I had taken science lmao

[jovial island]

@jovial island i dont

[lucid charm]

Guys what is the low level hardware threats and vulnerabilities of the internet of things

like where can i find a link to read about

[versed wigeon]

chill stop hating

if you're religious in terms of christianity then hate is invalid

[neat light]

!cban 875120694030127105 Bigotry isn't acceptable here

[clever salmon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @agile kiln permanently.

[edgy bane]

hi

how is everyone today

#python-discussion is wild this morning - not quite sure maybe school is out or sometihng

[slate leaf]

Tired of people tbh

[edgy bane]

ya lol

[daring jay]

on the other hand, it's nice to be able to weed out all the people we don't want

[bitter mist]

weed o_o

[edgy bane]

made some improvements to my py app (rendering images and videos in terminal) im working on. recent changes include:

• 50x faster 8bit color conversion using quantization
• flawless output for gifs and videos now - used to have major flickering every 1/5 1/10 frames so that's completely reduced now
• also did some prep for structure and docs for when im ready to release

[edgy bane]

seems like some news accounts joined just to get banned - probably same user(s)

nothing better to do

if anyone would like to give some feedback/suggestions or is just interested in image/video processing in python feel free to ping and i can show you some results

[tall temple]

detecting jpeg compression artifacts and cleaning them up

[cosmic fiber]

hi, can anyone help me with a simple excell problem

how do i make the MG box

calculate 0.4B + 0.6C

when i type =0.4B + 0.6C in the fonction box it doesn't work

@ me if u ever reply, thanks

[tall temple]

what is C?

instead of replace 3, just grab the square in the corner and drag down

it automatically "replaces 3"

[jovial island]

This is why I’d rather live on a plot of land somewhere, big ranch, lots of animals and self sustainability.

Alas, I need big bucks for that

[slate leaf]

Its just been a busy day for moderation, I tend to like people in the general sense

[jovial island]

I don’t know how y’all can do moderation in a big community long term

It’s darn hard

[tawdry sonnet]

i like people in the "get the fuck off my lawn" sense! lmao

[slate leaf]

Not quite the point I was trying to convey

[cosmic fiber]

@thorn dragon @tall temple so do i have to type that in each column? isn't there a way i can make it work for all the boxes of "MG" without having to type it manually in the columns one by one

nvm i found the solution

it's "type it in the first box only, then drag the whole column and press ctrl D

[dire sedge]

i try to avoid people when possible

i don't even know 20% of my classmates names and i think i have between 18 and 25 classmates

i only know the names of like 5 of my classmates it has been more than 50% of a year (not school year) and those 5 are also the only ones that i probably have said anything to

[feral meteor]

dude try to connect with people. being uninterested in other people is not something to be proud of, it will bite you down the road

speaking from experience here

[edgy bane]

how do i embed one of the gifs on the bottom right of the message box? It just pastes the link

[dire sedge]

i only try to connect with others that are actually nice to me

[feral meteor]

but if you only know the names of 5 classmates, how do you know if the rest would be nice to you if given a fair chance?

[edgy bane]

https://tenor.com/view/jet-gif-22118577

oh it worked!

[feral meteor]

it can be a self-fulfilling prophecy. if you think of yourself as an unapproachable loner then won't other people start to see you that way?

[dire sedge]

there is a lot of context that you don't have and i don't want to tell

[hidden kernel]

think about all the loners that would be nice to you if you connected with them

[feral meteor]

I'm sure there is. I just remember being like that when I was young and I think I really denied myself some opportunities for growth. It's hard to catch up on these things when you're older

idk why you wouldn't want to at least know the names of some people in your class

[edgy bane]

input -> output

[dire sedge]

that seems quite nice

[edgy bane]

thanks, finally was just able to get rid of the flickering in the output of gifs/mp4s. used to have pretty bad flickering

[echo fern]

What downscaling mode is that, by the way? NEAREST or BICUBIC?

[edgy bane]

hey, i had to look in to it since I'm actually using default

If the image mode specifies a number of bits, such as “I;16”, then the default filter is PIL.Image.Resampling.NEAREST. Otherwise, the default filter is PIL.Image.Resampling.BICUBIC

so hmm

[echo fern]

try messing with it, putting it down to nearest or up to the fanciest mode the name of which I forgot (the docs have a table, the default bicubic is second fanciest)

[edgy bane]

sure, what should I expect to notice - speed or a difference in output

[echo fern]

I'm talking about output quality

speed-wise, profile your program first to know what takes the time

[edgy bane]

ok, I should probably mention something in regard to that then

there is actually some manual optimization being done before the resize

as in

I'm actually doubling the width of the image but keep the height the same when the optimization setting is enabled to account for the height/width of characters. (instead of putting 2 of the same character). I think this may play a role in how it is rendered with the resize

I don't have to enable the option, so first i'll test the resize modes without any optimzation

speed is negotiable at this point after fixing the 8bit method

quality is in favor

[jovial island]

Good job

[echo fern]

basically, all of the resampling methods are various algorithms to determine what to color the output pixels, based on what the original pixels are around the same location

[jovial island]

Is it perhaps open source?

[echo fern]

the default is bicubic, which is pretty fancy. But for discretization to a very low resolution, I've found just NEAREST works well sometimes, because all the others smoothen the image a lot. So yeah, play around with it.

[edgy bane]

that's the goal but i'm not to that point yet and don't want to rush it. going to share it here when i post on github. would like some time to finalize format/docs/tests/etc

[echo fern]

(Don't make any speed-based decisions without profiling your program, in general. I would expect the resizing to be fast compared to the quantization, and so useless to optimize)

[jovial island]

Oh yeah, I see

[edgy bane]

bicubic (blurry) vs nearest (clear) - i think for the jet gif the bicubic honestly looked better though

i wonder how long it will take to decide how to implement a rule to determine which mode to use based on type/resolution

or maybe just allow the user to specify

[echo fern]

hmm, I bet this question was investigated by people automatically generating pixel art and stuff like that, but no idea how to google it

[dire sedge]

i would do that just give them a small explanation of what they do

[jovial island]

2 bishops and a queen checkmate

[vague shadow]

Am I reading this UI correctly? From the background of the tile, it looks like you just moved Ba4 to Bd7, but that would have meant the previous turn was an invalid board state, as black would have had to move the King into check?

Oh wait, I'm guessing you did Bxd7 on something, which would explain that

Ignore me 😅

[jovial island]

regardinh the channel name, you can segfault in python?

[pseudo creek]

python has significant portions built on C, so yes, you can trigger segfaults and other C errors in python. it's just not very easy

[versed wigeon]

not very easy in snekbox

!e ```py
from ctypes import py_object
py_object.from_address(0).value

[clever salmon]

@versed wigeon :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 139 (SIGSEGV).

[No output]

[versed wigeon]

yeah

[pseudo creek]

(without c interface, from https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/4694)
!e
import sys;sys.setrecursionlimit(1<<30);f=lambda f:f(f);f(f)

[clever salmon]

@pseudo creek :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 139 (SIGSEGV).

[No output]

[versed wigeon]

!e ```py
import sys;sys.exit(139)

[clever salmon]

@versed wigeon :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 139 (SIGSEGV).

[No output]

[versed wigeon]

@pseudo creek simulating a segfault

[pseudo creek]

the admins and mods would be hella mad, but i wonder if it's possible to crash the snekbox itself?

[versed wigeon]

🤔

i can go as far as crashing NsJail

!e ```py
import sys;sys.exit(1<<65)

[clever salmon]

@versed wigeon :warning: Your eval job has failed.

A fatal NsJail error occurred

[hidden kernel]

we dont mind you trying, as long as you tell us how you did it if you succeed

[versed wigeon]

ok but how do we do it

[remote widget]

Lmao

[strong topaz]

can someone help me with some java

ping pls

[feral meteor]

maybe, what's the problem?

[strong topaz]

ok so basically im extending this class called Rectangle in Javafx cause i want to add some custom stuff to it and im making a new contructor. i wanna be able to pass a new parameter and also pass parameters from the rectangles original constructor

package com.dubiner.tetrisfx;

import javafx.scene.shape.Rectangle;

public class RectangleMod extends Rectangle {
    private int flag = 0;

    public RectangleMod(int flag){
        super();
        this.flag = flag;
    }

    public int getFlag(){
        return flag;
    }

    public void setFlag(int flag){
        this.flag = flag;
    }
}

thats the code

but, later on i do this : ```java
board[i][j] = new RectangleMod(i * recPixelSize, j * recPixelSize, recPixelSize, recPixelSize);

i wanna also be able to pass the flag parameter along with those 4 params

do i use ```java
this();

@feral meteor

[feral meteor]

so you need a new RectangleMod constructor which accepts 5 arguments right?

[strong topaz]

yah but how do i pass some of those parameters to Rectangle?

[feral meteor]

using super I believe

something like:

public class RectangleMod extends Rectangle {
    private int flag = 0;

    public RectangleMod(double x, double y, double width, double height, int flag){
        super(x, y, width, height);
        this.flag = flag;
    }
}

[strong topaz]

public RectangleMod(int flag, int i1, int i2, int i3, int i4){
        super(i1, i2, i3, i4);
        
        this.flag = flag;
    }
``` like this?

ok

yah thats what i thought

tysm it really helps talking to someone lol

[feral meteor]

ofc! glad to help

[strong topaz]

also, java > python 😏

[feral meteor]

Heh I prefer to not have to write public static void main every time I write a program but to each their own

[pseudo creek]

then channel name is how fast can you segfault, not how fast can you be wrong

[strong topaz]

well intellij allows u to just type psvm

i just like the structure in java

also im biased cause java was my first language sooooo

[pseudo creek]

sout in intellij is veery nice

[strong topaz]

YES

IT IS

[strong topaz]

i prefer to be able to write fast code that runs efficiently on basically any platform, including a toaster

[feral meteor]

I prefer to turn my computer into a toaster by writing inefficient Python

[strong topaz]

lol

thats actually hilarious dude

[feral meteor]

ty

[strong topaz]

i was doing this leetcode problem with a friend. his solution took 40ms to run

(in python)

mine (in java) took 7ms and my code wasnt even especially clean

[versed wigeon]

mine (in C) took 1 ms and it's very unsafe

[strong topaz]

LOL

c is for chads

im planning to learn in a few months

and then im gonna learn assembly 😈

[feral meteor]

Makes sense I think. I believe a lot of work has gone into optimizing JIT compilation in HotSpot

Haskell can also be pretty fast if you use the right abstractions https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/haskell-beats-C.pdf

[strong topaz]

ye

[strong topaz]

i do not understand a word on that paper

😂

[feral meteor]

For me the takeaway is, the compiler knows a lot about what your Haskell program is doing, so it has a lot of leeway in terms of how to optimize it

[versed wigeon]

assembly 😔

[strong topaz]

indeed

[feral meteor]

GHC is another instance where the compiler has been the subject of countless grad school hours too.

[strong topaz]

what is haskell used for

[versed wigeon]

C is usually faster than handwritten assembly though

[strong topaz]

usually

[feral meteor]

It is mainly used for writing GHC, the Haskell compiler 😉

[strong topaz]

wait what

[feral meteor]

Idk it can be used for anything but I think it will never get super mainstream traction. Which is neat in its own way because it ends up with cool language features

[strong topaz]

looks like java

a bit

[feral meteor]

functional programming is a pretty mind-altering paradigm, would recommend it

[strong topaz]

could u suggest any tutorials about it?

i heard rust is a good functional programming oriented language

[feral meteor]

Haskell is purely functional, I think Rust borrows from a few different paradigms

[dusky cliff]

haskell would have the most resources available among the fp languages

[feral meteor]

Idk what the best resources are these days, I remember liking Bryan O'Sullivan's book Real World Haskell http://book.realworldhaskell.org/read/

[dusky cliff]

i followed learn you a haskell (http://learnyouahaskell.com)

[strong topaz]

is rust more popular in the industry?

[feral meteor]

These days, probably yes

[strong topaz]

ok

[dusky cliff]

.randomcase facebook uses haskell for its filters

[rustic harbor]

fACEboOk uSES HAskeLL for its fiLTeRS

[feral meteor]

Is 2022 The Year of Haskell on the Desktop?

[dusky cliff]

yassss

[feral meteor]

I think something that both Rust and Haskell share is a lot of emphasis on putting the type system to work

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry–Howard_correspondence

Types are logical propositions, programs are proofs.

[strong topaz]

what is type system

[feral meteor]

Type system like in java where you say x is an int or whatever

But it can be extended to be much more expressive than that

[strong topaz]

huh

interesting

unfortunate thing is i dont understand anything on that wikipedia page

[feral meteor]

no worries, I guess the takeaway is that type systems can be very powerful and let you prove basically arbitrary things

[strong topaz]

cool

is it like set theory in that way

[feral meteor]

Actually yes, very similar but different haha

[strong topaz]

epic

[feral meteor]

This is getting a bit to the boundaries of what I know but AFAIK modern math is built on ZFC (Zermelo-Fraenkel set theory) which is basically set theory + axiom of choice

Some other people have tried to use type theory as an alternate foundation for mathematics

Unfortunately one of the main people working on that (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Voevodsky) died several years ago so I'm not sure if much further progress has been made

[strong topaz]

rip

[feral meteor]

seriously, if this guy got another few decades we might have a whole new foundation for mathematics

meanwhile I'm just over here playing Apex Legends

[strong topaz]

lol

i suck at apex

[feral meteor]

same here ugh

[strong topaz]

indeed

[feral meteor]

time for bed, goodnight!

[versed wigeon]

ah yes fishhook

[still thorn]

sup

[limber pollen]

Rust is freeform for the most part

But it very much exists as an ML language

[echo fern]

I want to try doing some ML in Rust

it does have bindings to libtorch, so should have all the capabilities of pytorch if maybe in a less easy to use interface

[jovial island]

Anyone else got brain issues when #python-discussion moves too fast or is it just me? :Think:

[daring jay]

i love how you both just switched between two definitions of ML in like 2 messages

[daring jay]

you could always stick some pyo3 macros in it if you can't and call it a day

[willow plinth]

lmao

[jovial island]

@jovial island

send

[broken trout]

👀

[scarlet sierra]

@crisp tree Why did you just close the channel?? I wanted to ask questions!!! There is no need to just close it like that in the middle of a discussion!

The channel will automatically close after a certain amount of time

[crisp tree]

ok sry

[paper rain]

hi

got a qustion

#Write a Python program to help the paint store with their mixing by obtaining the required mixed colour
#(o=orange, g=green, or v=violet) and any tint/shade needed for that colour (t=tinted light, s=shaded dark, or
#m=medium...no black or white additives) as input and display, with appropriate labels, the colours mixed to
#generate the required colour given as input. If an invalid input option is entered, the program should display
#“unknown” for any information relevant to the invalid input. See sample input/output below for formatting.

#solving for orange

mxcolor = input ("Enter the mixed colour you need (o=orange, g=green, v=violet):")

st_color = input("Enter the tint/shade for the colour (t=tint light, s=shade dark, m=medium):")

p = ("unknown unknown = unknown unknown")
if mxcolor == "o" and st_color == "t":

p = ("Light Orange = 1 part Red + 1 part Yellow + ¼ part of White")
print(p)

elif mxcolor == "o" and st_color == "s":
p = ("Dark Orange = 1 part Red + 1 part Yellow + ¼ part of Black")
print(p)
elif mxcolor == "o" and st_color == "m":
print("Medium Orange = 1 part Red + 1 part Yellow")
elif mxcolor == "o":
p = ("unknown orange = 1 part Red + 1 part Yellow unknown")
print(p)

#solving for green
if mxcolor == "g" and st_color == "t":
p = ("Light Green = 1 part Blue + 1 part Yellow + ¼ part of White")
print(p)
elif mxcolor == "g" and st_color == "s":

p = ("dark Green = 1 part Blue + 1 part Yellow + ¼ part of Black")
print(p)

elif mxcolor == "g" and st_color == "m":
p = ("Medium Green = 1 part Blue + 1 part Yellow")
print(p)
elif mxcolor == "g":
p = ("unknown Green = 1 part Blue + 1 part Yellow unknown")
print(p)

if mxcolor == "v" and st_color == "t":
p = ("Light Violet = 1 part Red + 1 part Blue + ¼ part of White")
elif mxcolor == "v" and st_color == "s":
p = ("Dark Violet = 1 part Red + 1 part Blue + ¼ part of Black")
print(p)
elif mxcolor == "v" and st_color == "m":
p = ("Medium Violet = 1 part Red + 1 part Blue")
print(p)
elif mxcolor == "v":
p = ("unknown violet = 1 part Red + 1 part Blue unknown")
print(p)
elif mxcolor == mxcolor and st_color == st_color:
p = ("unknown unknown = unknown unknown")
print(p)

elif mxcolor == mxcolor and st_color == "t":
p = ("light unknown = unknown")
print(p)
elif mxcolor == mxcolor and st_color == "s":
p = ("dark unknown = unknown")
print(p)
elif mxcolor == mxcolor and st_color == "m":
p = ("Medium unknown = unknown")
print(p)
else:
print(p)

i have an issue

it wont be able to get an answer to this

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[versed wigeon]

@jovial island this saved me

oh yeah and that's a VPN IP don't worry

[jovial island]

But I don't even own the servers lol

I have the source for it it grabs no IPs at all

[versed wigeon]

yeah but it's google's fault for showing the IP

didn't say it was you

[jovial island]

It's a rick roll lol

Look at the url

I programmed it

https://replit.com/@E51/python-docs

[edgy apex]

when react 💯🔥

[remote widget]

GG

[jovial island]

we ❤️ react

[edgy apex]

react pullin up with that 30kb bundle 🥶

[jovial island]

💀💀

[remote widget]

rip

What the dog doin'

[rigid echo]

@fluid plank Is that you in the gh pfp?

[jovial island]

he’s sleeping rn

[remote widget]

Sad

[short cliff]

Okay, I'm going insane here. I remember reading or hearing an anecdote about an actor who was told to go to Hollywood hills and scream and scream and scream until his throat hurt to change his voice

I cannot for the life of me remember who the actor was

Older actor, not something recent

Maybe it was a singer...

Hnnngggg

[slate leaf]

Sounds like a Bale move

But is probably not them

[short cliff]

It is not

Every time I look I just keep finding stuff about the Scream movie

Which no

Rock Hudson

Opal found it for me

[slate leaf]

.wiki Rock Hudson

[rustic harbor]

Wikipedia Search Results

Rock Hudson
Rock Hudson (born Roy Harold Scherer Jr.; November 17, 1925 – October 2, 1985) was an American actor. One of the most popular movie stars of his time

Rock Hudson (film)
Rock Hudson is a 1990 American made-for-television crime drama film directed by John Nicolella. The story is based on My Husband, Rock Hudson, a 1987

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[short cliff]

But I can't find the full anecdote

[wheat aurora]

Okay, for all my JS/TS and related framework folks. I'm looking to deploy a pretty-much static NextJS thing. What is your preferred deployer?
So far I'm aware of:

• Netlify
• Vercel

What are the big things I should be looking for? I can pay would prefer to keep the cost low or constant

@winter cove you've deployed some stuff, right?

[winter cove]

If it is a personal project and you have it open on github vercel will allow you to deploy it completely free with absolutely no friction

[wheat aurora]

It's for my non-profit

[winter cove]

Hmm, I wonder what their exact wording is

[wheat aurora]

Again, totally fine paying as long as the cost is predictable

I'm just a bit overwhelmed by all the choices when I try to look into it

[median blade]

vercel has production and preview deploys and also deploys PR's which makes it easy to review changes

[winter cove]

sure, you'll be paying for a domain anyway

[daring jay]

Our Hobby plan is for personal, non-commercial use. Pro is for small teams with moderate bandwidth and collaboration requirements. Enterprise is for teams seeking greater performance, collaboration, and security.
this is what they say (vercel)

[wheat aurora]

Does vercel provide features that other deployments don't? Like I know netlify is a competitor

[jovial island]

I honestly have no idea, but I know I had a great experience with Vercel

[winter cove]

I haven't really used any other deployments although it's just very nice to stay in the vercel ecosystem where you can if you are using nextjs

[median blade]

i think you can only make 1 free project in netlify and then its paid

[winter cove]

Yeah, I have had a nice experience with vercel

[daring jay]

I wonder if non-profits are considered commercial use

[wheat aurora]

what's part of the vercel ecosystem?

[brisk edge]

nextjs is made by vercel

[winter cove]

I was more talking about how next.js is made by vercel

[wheat aurora]

ooooh, it is?

[winter cove]

yep

[wheat aurora]

okay that makes it a bit more appealing

thanks!

[jovial island]

Hey Guys, i want a littel Help with my Code. Where can i post my Code?

There to many channels

[slate leaf]

Check out #❓｜how-to-get-help

[jovial island]

@opaque pewter

[opaque pewter]

Hi

[jovial island]

Ok so

[edgy bane]

what up gang

[jovial island]

Everything connected to the internet is vulnerable

And ill tell u why

The govt basically has access to everythinf

[jovial island]

Except apple as it's a fruit

Ok so

Lol

[edgy bane]

any linux users here

[jovial island]

First

[jovial island]

Nah I use linspire

Linux is not really that private

[opaque pewter]

Not much of a surprise? Btw what if you use an encrypted proxy/VPN/Tor somehow? What can they do then?

[jovial island]

It's secure

[jovial island]

Well

[edgy bane]

that's linux

[jovial island]

Vpn has data which gov can request

Tor developers tell the NSA of vulnerabilities a long time before they patch it

[opaque pewter]

What about a self hosted VPN on a VPS?

[edgy bane]

says who

[jovial island]

VPSs are monitored

[jovial island]

They can decrypt the request

[jovial island]

Ill send u proof

[opaque pewter]

Self hosted tho. With no logging.

[jovial island]

No logging? Ha

Bro that sounds like chaos

[jovial island]

They can monitor requests to site / from ip and decrypt them

Also u need a ISP provider they can ask for those logs

[opaque pewter]

Hmm.

[jovial island]

The only safe way is to host everything securely on Ur end using wires

[jovial island]

So people can't connect

Ok so

Afaik ISP need to have logs of atleast the last 6 months

Also

[jovial island]

Depends on country

Yea

But the least is 6 months iirc

Ye

Anyways

Tor exit nodes are hosted by the Nsa

NSA and the FBI

Plus

[jovial island]

Tbh it's not just the NSA anyone can do it

Streisand effect plays a huge role here

[jovial island]

Ofc

And also

Look up

• Intel ME
• Vault 7

Using duckduckgo even tho its prob comprimised

Hardware and software has backdoors

Even Linux has backdoors

If the NSA couldnt break into a system then they're not doing their job

[jovial island]

coughs helloworldOS

Tor nodes are often malicious

[jovial island]

Lol

[jovial island]

Or linspire/ javaOS

So lets say for example

You use Tails OS

And use your phone which has MicroG as a wifi adapter

And you capture packets and have a firewall on it

And on the system

First of all

If you connect to tor directly

Your ISP will log your IP and probably put eyes on you

If you use an obfuscated bridge

Your ISP will also notice unusual traffic

Wait brb

Well i dont got much time

But my point is

Every system is vulnerable and is spied on

And if you try so hard to have privacy/anonymity

You wont be able to use basic services

[radiant socket]

trying to debug library code. i find this https://github.com/notify-rs/notify/blob/v4.0.16/src/poll.rs#L155-L165

[clever salmon]

src/poll.rs lines 155 to 165

                                        });
                                    }
                                }
                            }
                        }
                    }
                }
            }
        }
    }
}```

[daring jay]

goddamn

[radiant socket]

this is a 😔. code works locally, does not work in development docker container

[remote widget]

@jovial island why would be that

[jovial island]

cause you're the smartest of us all

[remote widget]

I beg to differ

[jovial island]

well, facts

[remote widget]

why do u say so

[jovial island]

its an axiom

its not reasonable, yet True

[remote widget]

axiom?

[jovial island]

An axiom, postulate, or assumption is a statement that is taken to be true, to serve as a premise or starting point for further reasoning and arguments

[remote widget]

Someone was watching JD and AH case very closely

[jovial island]

nah i just studied 9-10th standard maths properly

you should remember something like "Euclid's Axioms and Postulates"

[remote widget]

All I remember is there was a shitty theorem named Euclid Division Lemma

[jovial island]

yeah, that's related

[jovial island]

name of the chapter btw

[remote widget]

I don't remember smth like "axioms and postulates" stuff tbh

I just remember the name Euclid

[jovial island]

Euclid is pleased for you remembering his name😂

[remote widget]

Lmao

I wanted to please someone else but Euclid will do

[willow plinth]

👀 what is different about a java import ?

[remote widget]

Idk

[jovial island]

we don't need to import classes like from file import Class but without the file ( if im not wrong )

cause its similar in Kotlin, and thats why ive been taught

[willow plinth]

👀👀👀

[jovial island]

https://tenor.com/view/poke-eyes-chickenbro-cry-out-painful-ouch-gif-17559036

[willow plinth]

i have another pair of eyes there, im chillin 😎

[jovial island]

dont make me do it

me with glasses

[willow plinth]

do it...

[jovial island]

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-cat-vans-gif-21776348

[willow plinth]

lmao

[jovial island]

https://c.tenor.com/D8hEg0H26hAAAAAM/cat-smack.gif

[willow plinth]

I need glasses, but dont want to get em, gonna push it till im blind

[jovial island]

im a strong boi

[jovial island]

eh i just got them for eye protection
they actually have a power of just 0.25 dioptre

[jovial island]

me a strong cat

💪

😼 👊

[willow plinth]

zebra watches from a far

[willow plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stop-stop-it-now-enough-kitten-gif-16655345

[jovial island]

what you doing lurking

[slate leaf]

Oh

Was just showing off the new nuke ban hammer sticker

No reason in particular

[willow plinth]

oh, nice 👍