ot2-the-original-pubsta

[brazen jacinth]

and puncucuation

[smoky spindle]

whats koobernoot

is it a slang for noobs and stuff

[neat light]

I0t i0s s3g f1r k8s

||https://kubernetes.io/||

[shrewd lance]

I'm accustomed to replacing letters with digits for """comedic""" effect in my conversations with friends (a very watered down version of 1337sp34k), so seeing this sentence was about three times as painful as it would be without that

[neat light]

It's nice to be able to shorten words, but it can get a bit ambiguous when you're trying to explain kerfuffles caused by kilolitres of kiwifruits in your kubernetes cluster

[jovial island]

@elfin vine and can you get renominated and do you contribute to such a conversation?

[elfin vine]

Yes someone can be nominated by multiple people, and if someone's nomination was rejected by the moderators they can be nominated again later on.

[jovial island]

i see

[elfin vine]

I, as a helper, am able to nominate others I think would fit, yes.

[jovial island]

ah nice

welp thats all my questions thanks

[jade bolt]

ok

[brazen jacinth]

after 2 goddamn days of attempt after attempt, finally beaten

[jovial island]

F

[jade bolt]

ibm sounds good

oh i regret, its noise > music

[full marlin]

nurol knots

[jade bolt]

golfolofoing

[full marlin]

goothib

[jade bolt]

gootlob

[noble totem]

https://i.imgur.com/uXGOwMl.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkMzdGN9V3k

[digital bane]

Nah its evil music made by evil mastermind

[jade bolt]

:)

[remote widget]

What the heck is this channel name

[somber belfry]

"vivek is no average cow"

[jade bolt]

is vivek a better cow, or a worse cow

@somber belfry can I have a steak btw

thx

[somber belfry]

np

[digital bane]

Oh my you had killed non average vivek cow by that evil request

[jade bolt]

🐮
🔥 🥩

😋

@somber belfry is the steak ready btw :)

[somber belfry]

np 👍

[dusky cliff]

i think we all know

[lofty loom]

Vivek is the cow

[jade bolt]

and im the cowboy 😳

🤠
👖
🐮

wait, why is cowboy cowboy, when it rides horses instead

🤠
👖
🐴

[lofty loom]

No you're the femboy

[grave cliff]

I'll show yoy guys my poems

Why I wanna stay when they all leave?
Should I smoke your alcohol or drink some weed?
Shit, I'm confused what the fuck am I saying
On your pussy imma go supa saiyan

[molten viper]

is this like an AU?

[grave ridge]

im a cow girl

[rotund python]

and i am the terror that flaps in the night

[carmine herald]

lean duck

[brazen jacinth]

sorta

[quaint fog]

💀

[carmine herald]

ok thats funny

[versed wigeon]

i was wondering that a few hours ago

probably call them horsemen instead

[edgy apex]

rusty block chain idk i dont use rust

i cant find the right image for this joke

damn it

[brazen jacinth]

!src eval

[clever salmon]

Command: eval

Run Python code and get the results.

Source Code

Go to GitHub

bot/exts/utils/snekbox.py:268

[remote widget]

Lmao I understand the reference dw

[digital bane]

Lol

What about Solidity and blockchain

[jovial island]

@jovial island

[jade bolt]

sus

[jade bolt]

am planning to make a software where you choose what data of you to sell to. like selling data with you knowing, and you get money back. is this doable

I hope this isn't too rule 5

[digital bane]

I had profitable library data conversion scheme that ran for years....i didnt sell data just reformat and get money mua hahahaha

[digital bane]

Not too sure thou sounds a bit evil

[jade bolt]

😈

[jade bolt]

👀

zamn

[digital bane]

Someday we should do evil scheme brainstorm lmao

[jade bolt]

make some evil corps >:)

[digital bane]

Mua hahaha

[lofty loom]

You and @jade bolt do a lot of eivl Schemes

[jovial island]

Firstly open up Terminal and type in the following command:

LC_ALL=C tr -c "[:digit:]" " " < /dev/urandom | dd cbs=$COLUMNS conv=unblock | GREP_COLOR="1;32" grep --color "[^ ]"

Then click enter, to stop the program hold Ctrl+C

Thanks for reading epic gamer```

[slate leaf]

Even if this is the off-topic channels, we aren't really looking for spam / cross posting messages.

[mental idol]

What type of Makefile have I been writing? @rare moat
https://github.com/Preocts/python-template/blob/main/wip/Makefile

[rare moat]

lets see

[daring jay]

Why write phony code

[rare moat]

good man, that be BSD Make compliant

i am proud of you

[normal quartz]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2145590/what-is-the-purpose-of-phony-in-a-makefile

[daring jay]

That was a joke

[normal quartz]

or shitposteth thee

ah, thou shitposteth

[mental idol]

Because I'm not really using Makefiles to their full power. ;)

oh. yokes.

[normal quartz]

the shitpostation intensifies

[rare moat]

you are my favorite child for the day @mental idol

[mental idol]

Well yay for that. Do you have an example of a GNU Makefile? Still lacking context as to what is not as portable.

[rare moat]

hmm

well, i have no examples of existing Makefiles, but i can write one later

the bot has a remind feature right

!remind 3s

[clever salmon]

Not in my house!

Sorry, you can't do that here!

[rare moat]

.remind 3s

but for now, if you see anything like this:

SRCS=$(wildcard *.c)
OBJS=$(pasubst $SRCS, .c, .o)

or

%.o: %c
cc $< -o $@

run

you are writing Python though

[mental idol]

.bm

[rare moat]

so it will be easier for you to not have to do any of that.

[mental idol]

Python is just one of the things I write ;)

Thank you for the clues.

[rare moat]

haha yup

[paper bolt]

Hello, where can I turn for help in the code?

[rare moat]

if you do end up needing that stuff, i can give you some alternatives later that BSD Make and GNU Make supports.

[slate leaf]

One of the best places is a help channel: #❓｜how-to-get-help

[paper bolt]

Ok

[rare moat]

i really need to start writing that guide to writing portable C code.

[dusky cliff]

pffffffff

[fiery dock]

hello

[jovial island]

oof

cries while attending school

and that time I wasnt even home when you pinged me

[jovial island]

ohh

[brazen jacinth]

yello

[limpid hinge]

hi

[brazen jacinth]

where's the cat

[limpid hinge]

so anyways, c++ in scratch would be funny

[brazen jacinth]

🤔

[brazen jacinth]

lol yes

although very difficult

something like python tbh would be easier

[limpid hinge]

ye

[brazen jacinth]

and scratch is very limited

[limpid hinge]

also what about custom version of assembly lul

[brazen jacinth]

no objects, classes, boolean, dicts

just strings and lists

[limpid hinge]

meanwhile, 3d engines exist on scratch

[dire sedge]

a brainfuck compiler is maybe possible

[limpid hinge]

and numbers

[brazen jacinth]

raycasters yes

[brazen jacinth]

[limpid hinge]

well I've seen slightly better

[brazen jacinth]

the one thing i've loved were cloud variables

[limpid hinge]

if you think about it, a string is simply a list of numbers

[brazen jacinth]

😬

[limpid hinge]

they're just interpreted as text

[brazen jacinth]

yeah and roblox is scamming kids for 1's and 0's

[limpid hinge]

lol

[brazen jacinth]

you might be a a very complicated text bot for all i know

[dire sedge]

if you can make a brainfuck compiler in scratch you should be able to make a c/c++ compiler using brainfuck inside scratch

[brazen jacinth]

👀

[limpid hinge]

LOL

[brazen jacinth]

compilers in scratch...

i might set aside a few hours

[limpid hinge]

imagine Lua in scratch

[brazen jacinth]

although it would be slow as hell

[brazen jacinth]

not that far off

it might have been done before, lemme check

[limpid hinge]

if we have python in scratch, Lua in scratch should be easy

[dire sedge]

it seems like brainfuck is possible inside scratch

this seems like the only thing i was able to find on that https://youtu.be/Nz1w7z1o7vU

and it is just a example of someone using it none of the links are working

[brazen jacinth]

sorry guys

my mom just came along and shut down my computer

[brazen jacinth]

turbowarp

it's a bug in the api

o

no ids huh

[dire sedge]

no i mean the link to where that program is doesn't work

[dire sedge]

when i was like 12 my mom also did that sometimes and i always just booted my pc backup

[brazen jacinth]

lol

anyway, i guess im going to try and make a compiler of some sorts

[dire sedge]

at some point she literally took the power cord with her

[brazen jacinth]

welp, i gotta go soon

cya

[limpid hinge]

so I made a few sprites

this but many colours

[brazen jacinth]

nice

anyone wanna check this out before i leave? - https://turbowarp.org/556858531?hqpen&clones=Infinity&interpolate

oooh

big embed

[limpid hinge]

I can't play on mobile is hard

[brazen jacinth]

im pretty sure it works on mobile, it's harder but it does work

[limpid hinge]

ye

that's why I said is hard

I don't know if I can play it on mobile lol

[brazen jacinth]

ye

it's, meant to be difficult

i can't get to end myself

and i CREATED it

[hardy light]

Need job. Ugh.

not tryna self-promote or anything. the process of looking is just so much fun. especially when recruiters reach out to me on linked in like "we are so impressed with your experience blah blah blah" & then get on the phone to tell me I need a Bachelor's degree.

[civic plank]

that's sadly the bare minimum to be even considered for a phone screen nowadays

[edgy apex]

compiling wine takes so long

:(

[edgy apex]

completed wine build :D i forgot there was a -j option in make

[austere oak]

Defining objects makes the code longer, but also makes it easier to look at and write. How common is that?

[dusky cliff]

very

[hardy light]

its really odd. I have three years of dev experience and personal projects to show them, however I am looked at as if I can't finish what I started instead of someone who didn't have the opportunity to not work and go to school.

I taught myself, I wouldn't say that should be something that is counted against me. I'm still working towards my degree because I can't get loans and needed to pay for it using my wages. Its just a rock and a hard place sort of situation. 😦

[paper bronze]

https://www.change.org/Comedyiscool

[jovial island]

uhh, why wouldn't we prefer to have it: All politicians should have PhD in a STEM field

i know i would

[sinful sun]

because politics should be available to any man or woman regardless of qualifications

good ideas dont exclusively come from phds

zelensky was a comedian and now he's successfully fighting off an invasion

[digital bane]

True

[digital bane]

Not all thou but moar

[dusk trail]

!e

from random import randint 

n1 = randint(1, 10)
n2 = randint(1, 10)
operator = randint(1, 4)

one = n1 / n2
two = n1 - n2 
three = n1 + n2
four = n1 * n2

user = int(input(""))
if operator == 1:
    print(n1, " / ", n2, " = " , user)
    if user == one: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")
if operator == 2: 
    print(n1, " - ", n2, " = ", user)
    if user == two: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")
if operator == 3: 
    print(n1, " + ", n2, " = ", user )
    if user == three: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")
if operator == 4: 
    print(n1, " * ", n2, " = ", user )
    if user == four: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")

!e

from random import randint 

n1 = randint(1, 10)
n2 = randint(1, 10)
operator = randint(1, 4)

one = n1 / n2
two = n1 - n2 
three = n1 + n2
four = n1 * n2

user = int(input(": "))
if operator == 1:
    print(n1, " / ", n2, " = " , user)
    if user == one: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")
if operator == 2: 
    print(n1, " - ", n2, " = ", user)
    if user == two: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")
if operator == 3: 
    print(n1, " + ", n2, " = ", user )
    if user == three: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")
if operator == 4: 
    print(n1, " * ", n2, " = ", user )
    if user == four: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")

[clever salmon]

@dusk trail :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | : Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 12, in <module>
003 | EOFError: EOF when reading a line

[light harness]

!e

[clever salmon]

Command Help

!eval [code]
Can also use: e

*Run Python code and get the results.

This command supports multiple lines of code, including code wrapped inside a formatted code block. Code can be re-evaluated by editing the original message within 10 seconds and clicking the reaction that subsequently appears.

We've done our best to make this sandboxed, but do let us know if you manage to find an issue with it!*

[dusk trail]

sorry my vs code is not working so running ti here

ill delte this later

!e

from random import randint 

n1 = randint(1, 10)
n2 = randint(1, 10)
operator = randint(1, 4)

one = n1 / n2
two = n1 - n2 
three = n1 + n2
four = n1 * n2

user = str(input(": "))
if operator == 1:
    print(n1, " / ", n2, " = " , user)
    if user == one: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")
if operator == 2: 
    print(n1, " - ", n2, " = ", user)
    if user == two: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")
if operator == 3: 
    print(n1, " + ", n2, " = ", user )
    if user == three: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")
if operator == 4: 
    print(n1, " * ", n2, " = ", user )
    if user == four: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")

[clever salmon]

@dusk trail :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | : Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 12, in <module>
003 | EOFError: EOF when reading a line

[light harness]

k just tring how it work

[dusk trail]

wtff

why is it doing that

[clever salmon]

@light harness :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 2, in <module>
003 | ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'PyQt5'

[light harness]

!e
print('hi')

[clever salmon]

@light harness :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

hi

[light harness]

1e
p = int(input())
c = int(input())
b = int(input())
a = int(input())
l = [p,c,a,b]
l.sort()
print(l)
l.sort(reverse=True)
print(l)

!e
p = int(input())
c = int(input())
b = int(input())
a = int(input())
l = [p,c,a,b]
l.sort()
print(l)
l.sort(reverse=True)
print(l)

[clever salmon]

@light harness :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 | EOFError: EOF when reading a line

[dusk trail]

wtf does this mean

[light harness]

!e
a = input()
print(a)

[dusk trail]

btw can i ask you for a favour

[clever salmon]

@light harness :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 | EOFError: EOF when reading a line

[light harness]

what

[dusk trail]

can u try to run my code on ur vs code ot smt

[light harness]

k

[dusk trail]

like for some reason mine just keeps on loading and its annoying

[light harness]

it can't take input

send code

[dusk trail]

yea i figured

from random import randint

n1 = randint(1, 10)
n2 = randint(1, 10)
operator = randint(1, 4)

one = n1 / n2
two = n1 - n2
three = n1 + n2
four = n1 * n2

user = str(input(": "))
if operator == 1:
print(n1, " / ", n2, " = " , user)
if user == one:
print("Incorrect")
else:
print("Correct")
if operator == 2:
print(n1, " - ", n2, " = ", user)
if user == two:
print("Incorrect")
else:
print("Correct")
if operator == 3:
print(n1, " + ", n2, " = ", user )
if user == three:
print("Incorrect")
else:
print("Correct")
if operator == 4:
print(n1, " * ", n2, " = ", user )
if user == four:
print("Incorrect")
else:
print("Correct")

[light harness]

what should i input

[dusk trail]

from random import randint 

n1 = randint(1, 10)
n2 = randint(1, 10)
operator = randint(1, 4)

one = n1 / n2
two = n1 - n2 
three = n1 + n2
four = n1 * n2

user = str(input(": "))
if operator == 1:
    print(n1, " / ", n2, " = " , user)
    if user == one: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")
if operator == 2: 
    print(n1, " - ", n2, " = ", user)
    if user == two: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")
if operator == 3: 
    print(n1, " + ", n2, " = ", user )
    if user == three: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")
if operator == 4: 
    print(n1, " * ", n2, " = ", user )
    if user == four: 
        print("Incorrect")
    else:
        print("Correct")

[light harness]

it works

[dusk trail]

oh ok bet thanks

[light harness]

k

for python u can install pycharm

instead of vs code

[dusk trail]

oh

[light harness]

i use both

pycharm is better for python

[dusk trail]

ok imam get it then cuz i mostly have to use python for school

[light harness]

k bye

[dusk trail]

ok bye thanks

[lofty loom]

Both are good

VS Code has better multi-language support though

[jovial island]

vs code is basically de facto text editor

vast majority of languages have a useful VS Code extension

[rich cargo]

yup, I like to use pycharm for python

but I use vscode more than pycharm 😅

[fathom root]

movie recommendations ?

what shouldi watch

[brazen jacinth]

inception

encanto sucks tbh

boring as hell

you could never go wrong with inception tho

[fathom root]

watched it like 3 times

[slate leaf]

Monty Python and the Holy Grail

[blissful coral]

fuck you, you haven't watched it properly unless you've seen it 50 times

tell me which finger DiCaprio has a ring at 1 hour 23 minutes 32 second mark 🤣

[fathom root]

index

easy

[blissful coral]

he doesn't

[fathom root]

fk

[blissful coral]

lmao

gottem

[rich cargo]

if you like thriller movie, I would recommend "The Drop"

[midnight arch]

create a recommender system

product_sum = (genreTable * userProfile).sum(axis=1)
userprofile_sum = userProfile.sum()
recommendationTable_df = product_sum / userprofile_sum

[blissful coral]

wut

how is that a recommender system

[midnight arch]

should i write the entire code here?

[blissful coral]

using pandas for recommendation lmfao

no lol

I was just pointing out that any such simple recommendation system usualy sucks

hell netflix's recommender is bad

wait a min

you get this

[midnight arch]

what is netflix?

[slate leaf]

Lets not share things like that, yeah?

[blissful coral]

twas funny 😆

and its not even sexual - what is everyone here 6?

[frail grove]

you know, now i'm curious on what this is about, but i think i'll just leave it as that

[brazen jacinth]

😅

im not going to ask if that was an image or what

@grim seal are you made of graphs?

[carmine herald]

olddddddddddddd

[daring jay]

legend says that if you say "graphs" three times, joe will be summoned

[brazen jacinth]

graphs graphs graphs

[clever salmon]

Someone called? 📈 📉 📊

[brazen jacinth]

(SLAPS DESK) LETS FUCKING GO

[grim beacon]

graphs graphs graphs

[cyan ferry]

help

i want mcdonalds but i also dont

what do i dooooooo]

[sinful sun]

stay up until tomorrow morning and get mcbreakfast

[cyan ferry]

SMART

[sinful sun]

i used to do that in uni cause if i went to sleep i would definitely not be able to get up before 10am

[cyan ferry]

yeah i wanna eat now and finish my assignment but then ill have no money for breakfast

im torn

[lofty loom]

GraphQL GraphQL GraphQL

[brazen jacinth]

Perhaps, I'm the chosen one

[slate leaf]

I think it takes a lot of work to make a graph

[carmine herald]

i made one :)

[slate leaf]

Very nice

[distant kelp]

why is joe made of graphs

[sonic token]

IS weed marijuana

[lofty loom]

He is actually a graph database

[digital bane]

Do a mcsleep then a mcwakeup before mcbreakfast

[distant kelp]

uwot

[tidal surge]

Today is my birthday

[digital bane]

Happy birthday

[somber belfry]

Happy birthday!

[paper bronze]

Happy birthday

[jovial island]

Happy birthday!

[naive finch]

Happy day of birth

[lofty loom]

Happy time of birth

[brazen jacinth]

Happy birth day

oh yeah, today is my brothers birthday i forgot

[tepid sage]

Coffe

Come on

I Like Canada

[tidal surge]

thx

[brazen jacinth]

oh nice im canadian

[tidal surge]

thx

[tepid sage]

Im from Oklahoma

I Like tea

[brazen jacinth]

i don't drink either

lol

[tepid sage]

Oh

Do you have girlfriend

[brazen jacinth]

this is pydis of course lmao

[brazen jacinth]

no im 13

[tepid sage]

Oj

[brazen jacinth]

code python*

[tepid sage]

You really young

Coffe tea is 13 too

[brazen jacinth]

neat

[tepid sage]

Da

[brazen jacinth]

oh wow

im still learning how to use numpy

[tepid sage]

I Like this Server

But Frag Inc better

[brazen jacinth]

what's that

[tepid sage]

Its very good server

[brazen jacinth]

one sec

[tepid sage]

He was created by Coffe tea

Yea

I top

[brazen jacinth]

hm?

sorry i needed to check my adventure

[tepid sage]

You good man cup

Yea

[brazen jacinth]

who

[tepid sage]

Mmm

MzM

G

Grisha very bad

You know?

No

Its you friend

Oh you Like Girls or boys

Do you love boys?

No

Like boyfriend

Why?

[slate leaf]

You must be 13 to use Discord.

[tepid sage]

He lie

[slate leaf]

Please keep the chat on topic, and avoid sensitive topics as per our #code-of-conduct .

[tepid sage]

Ok

Yes

I Like Canada

Oh

I dont see

Anything

Im janitor in my last school

I want to be programmer

I bum

I homeless

Send me 1 kiss

[hollow heart]

don't be weird.

[lofty loom]

Smh my head Pythophobia isn't real

[digital bane]

Well there is this lmao https://devrant.com/rants/782743/i-love-python-its-the-language-i-never-really-struggled-a-lot-with-yet-also-prog

[carmine herald]

no braces?

[digital bane]

British bad teeth and Monty Python lmao

[cyan ferry]

cant touch dis#

[versed wigeon]

braces in python is the most complex thing i've ever tried to do

[lofty loom]

@versed wigeon Megamind is disappointed in you

For adding braces

[versed wigeon]

i can't

[digital bane]

Foiled?

[versed wigeon]

this guy suggested to add braces to python and it turned out to be one of the most complex things i've ever done

[digital bane]

The evil lmao

[lofty loom]

Me or someone else

[digital bane]

I guess aph the evil megamind

[versed wigeon]

there were iirc two people who suggested it which can include either or both of you

[lofty loom]

We could always search anyways

I spent more time configuring my environment than I am writing code

[versed wigeon]

discord search doesn't seem to be working properly for me

[sinful sun]

discord search sucks

may as well manually scroll back chat history

[lofty loom]

Works fine on the web app

Mobile app, ehh

[sinful sun]

It breaks on web app too, countless times i've had to reload the page to get it working again

Happens most commonly if i search and then shuffle through channels and try to search again

[vestal mist]

I fear python

[versed wigeon]

hmm yes you should for your life ```py
for [[[{(()):{(),[]==(),((((),({(),},))),)}}[()]][-~([]==[])]][~-({}=={})]][-~(()!=())] in {**dict([(({},),[]==[]),([]==[],()!={})]),{[]!=():([[]],)}[()==()]:([],)}:
[[a,[([b,[f],d],c)],(*[(),e],)]] = 1,[(2,[3],4),5],(),7

[vestal mist]

Aaaaaaa

Take it off my scren pleassssseeeee

Aaajfiabrkdjnwksjdnekdjbeneen

[remote widget]

!e
for [[[{(()):{(),[]==(),((((),({(),},))),)}}[()]][-~([]==[])]][~-({}=={})]][-~(()!=())] in {**dict([(({},),[]==[]),([]==[],()!={})]),{[]!=():([[]],)}[()==()]:([],)}:
[[a,[([b,[f],d],c)],(*[(),e],)]] = 1,[(2,[3],4),5],(),7

[clever salmon]

@remote widget :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[remote widget]

@versed wigeon huh?

[versed wigeon]

you didn't print anything

[remote widget]

what to print

[versed wigeon]

just do print(f"{a}, {b}, ..., {c+d}, {e+f}")

[remote widget]

!e
for [[[{(()):{(),[]==(),((((),({(),},))),)}}[()]][-~([]==[])]][~-({}=={})]][-~(()!=())] in {**dict([(({},),[]==[]),([]==[],()!={})]),{[]!=():([[]],)}[()==()]:([],)}:
[[a,[([b,[f],d],c)],(*[(),e],)]] = 1,[(2,[3],4),5],(),7 
print(f"{a}, {b}, ..., {c+d}, {e+f}")

[clever salmon]

@remote widget :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "<string>", line 2
002 |     [*[a,[*([b,[f],d],c)],*(*[(),e],)]] = 1,[(2,[3],4),5],(),7 
003 |                                                              ^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid decimal literal

[remote widget]

Well

[vestal mist]

Wow

Python fail

[versed wigeon]

what?

!e ```py
for [[[{(()):{(),[]==(),((((),({(),},))),)}}[()]][-~([]==[])]][~-({}=={})]][-~(()!=())] in {**dict([(({},),[]==[]),([]==[],()!={})]),{[]!=():([[]],)}[()==()]:([],)}:
[[a,[([b,[f],d],c)],(*[(),e],)]] = 1,[(2,[3],4),5],(),7

print(f"{a}, {b}, ..., {c+d}, {e+f}")

[clever salmon]

@versed wigeon :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

1, 2, ..., 9, 10

[remote widget]

Lmao

Wait what's the use of ~

[vestal mist]

Have y'all heard of obfuscated code it's one of the weirdest things used to make antiviruses not detect them

[versed wigeon]

how the heck did you get \u200a in there

[remote widget]

Prolly cz I'm on a mobile

[remote widget]

Yea, I have done that too

[vestal mist]

It's cool isn't it

Jumbling strings making things freaky

[remote widget]

Better is to use nuitka or smth @vestal mist

It literally converts yr python code to dll

[vestal mist]

I should lookinto what dlls actually do

Even tho i program in c#

I don't know dlls really do

They seem like modules in python

But compiled

[remote widget]

They are just packed high level language code

Which is already machine code

[lofty loom]

Guess I got lucky

[carmine herald]

why don't you print deez

[versed wigeon]

deez python code yeaaaa

[remote widget]

!e print('deez')

[clever salmon]

@remote widget :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

deez

[vestal mist]

!e print("nuts"

[clever salmon]

@vestal mist :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "<string>", line 1
002 |     print("nuts"
003 |          ^
004 | SyntaxError: '(' was never closed

[vestal mist]

fuck how did i mess it up

[lofty loom]

Finally, Github Actions is working correctly

[vestal mist]

!e print("nuts")

[clever salmon]

@vestal mist :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

nuts

[lofty loom]

yesqa was introducing unintended bugs, removed it.

[jaunty wadi]

@lofty loom accept my FR, i want to DM you haha

[sonic coyote]

i think this is kinda stupid but quick question

is it possible to fully use unity with ironpython?

and sorry if i interrupted any of you

[remote widget]

I don't think unity supports Python, so prolly nope

BTW look into Godot if u wanna create games with a proper game engine, or arcade, ursina and pygame for Python (u can use nuitka to package these and distribute as exe)

[sonic coyote]

thanks

i'll check it out

[obtuse raptor]

!e print("deez")

[clever salmon]

@obtuse raptor :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

deez

[lofty loom]

There are 3rd party bindings to use Python with Godot, but GDScript's still more performant while looking kind of like Python

[edgy apex]

i've seen this one before

was it copied from r/ProgrammerHumor

[remote widget]

@nova ember u lied about being a human...

w h y

[brazen jacinth]

i was just about to uninstall it before i realized i'd have to reinstall my 69, 420 packages

[nova ember]

When have I ever said that I'm human?

[remote widget]

Robots don't go out

[jovial island]

@knotty anvil optimize this or you cant?

print((lambda n:"".join(__import__("random").sample("abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz",n)))(10))

[knotty anvil]

!e ```py
import random; print(''.join(random.sample(list(map(chr, range(97,123))),10)))

[clever salmon]

@knotty anvil :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

xaonyfmdst

[knotty anvil]

Probably not that optimised

[jovial island]

bro how is that optimized 💀

and the heck is chr

[knotty anvil]

I'll think for a bit if I can find a better way or something

Idk I'm kind of lazy

I wasn't trying to optimise

[jovial island]

excuses

you still impressed me tho well done

[jovial island]

ah it returns unicode thats cool

[edgy apex]

&pep 9001

[echo blaze]

**PEP 9001 - The Final Style Guide for Python Code**

Link

Status

Provisional

Created

01-Apr-2022

Type

Standards Track

[edgy apex]

!pep 8

[clever salmon]

**PEP 8 - Style Guide for Python Code**

Link

Status

Active

Created

05-Jul-2001

Type

Process

[edgy apex]

!pep8

[clever salmon]

PEP 8 is the official style guide for Python. It includes comprehensive guidelines for code formatting, variable naming, and making your code easy to read. Professional Python developers are usually required to follow the guidelines, and will often use code-linters like flake8 to verify that the code they're writing complies with the style guide.

More information:
• PEP 8 document
• Our PEP 8 song! :notes:

[hoary fjord]

import numpy as pd
someone woke up and thought there wasnt enough chaotic energy in the world, huh?

anyway, dunno if anyone can answer this but has anyone tried Google's summer of code? if so, how was your experience

[willow plinth]

numpy.DataFrame

[digital bane]

Chaotic Energy summoned...i dont know much about GSoC and it was suggested to me too...bump up question.....(art made with Python and my 100% Python BMP lib)

[hoary fjord]

[brazen jacinth]

01-Apr-2022

👀

[runic frigate]

i spent 5 mins typing this

def get_your_priorites_straight(data):

wins = []
losses = []

for i in range(0, len(data)):
  if data['gettin women'][i] > data['gettin money'][i]
  wins.append(np.nan)
  losses.append(data['L'])
elif data data['gettin money'][i] < data['gettin women'][i]
  wins.append(data['W'])
  losses.append(np.nan)

return (wins, losses)

nah this is funny

[hollow heart]

not appropriate for here. read our #rules and #code-of-conduct

[carmine herald]

ah yes the sigma grindset

[sinful sun]

This makes zero sense

[grim beacon]

@pine plinth we can continue here if you’d like

[pine plinth]

sure

[grim beacon]

so I’m still really debating on the stack

[pine plinth]

i'm using rocket + sqlx postgres for my project and plain old vanilla html css and js

[grim beacon]

I’m pretty sure about using Postgres, redis, and WASM (wasm_bindgen)

[languid osprey]

rocket is great

[grim beacon]

I’ll only be doing backend also for the time being

[languid osprey]

diesel is a good ORM as well

well, afaik its the only notable one

[grim beacon]

There is also SeaORM

[pine plinth]

yea diesel has some good integrations with rocket i think

[grim beacon]

Diesel isn’t async though, but I don’t think that will be the biggest of issues

[languid osprey]

oh seaorm seems neat

[languid osprey]

Yeah, Rocket has something for that

[pine plinth]

yea it uses sqlx under the hood iirc

[grim beacon]

so far, I have actually liked Actix development over rocket tbh

but there are other ones like Gotham, warp, tide. I might just be majorly over thinking this lol

[languid osprey]

https://rocket.rs/v0.5-rc/guide/state/#managed-state this seems to explain it

for running diesel in async

[pine plinth]

i was going to use actix for my project too then a few google searches later i found some discussions about actix and decided to just use rocket instead

[languid osprey]

I like the rocket docs a lot more than actix

[grim beacon]

yeah I have also heard some things about actix going down, if that’s what you mean

[pine plinth]

what i heard was mostly just the maintainer being kinda rude and stuff about using a lot of unsafe code.

[grim beacon]

hmm

I also want to make my stack the best it can be for production

so maybe if that’s the case, actix isn’t a good option

[pine plinth]

also idk if actix has these but rocket has these cool request guards that you can mention as request handlers parameters: https://rocket.rs/v0.5-rc/guide/requests/#request-guards

[pine plinth]

people seem to like actix tho and its used in production by some companies so i dont think its that big an issue. I just found rocket more appealing to what im used to in a web framework.

[grim beacon]

That’s pretty useful actually

So these guards basically prevent unwanted or extra info from getting into the request

[pine plinth]

yea and you can do things like specify a user parameter with the type as your user model struct, and then implement rocket's FromRequest trait to automatically fetch the user whenever a request is made to that route

basically like django's login required decorator but more general use

[grim beacon]

ah ok

Also I should be able to use Rocket with raw wasm_bindgen bindings and stuff @pine plinth

[pine plinth]

i dont have any idea about that sorry

[grim beacon]

oh ok

[pine plinth]

i think wasm is client side code that runs in browser so i dont think rocket would support anything related to wasm since it's a web server.

[grim beacon]

I’m pretty sure it can be used on server side. But I might be incorrect. I believe that they eventually intend to get it to server side if it isn’t already

[pine plinth]

ah alright.

well, i found this reddit post relating to rocket and wasm_bindgen i hope it can help you https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/9d7u2n/using_wasmbindgen_with_rocket/

[grim beacon]

Thanks

[daring jay]

the warp framework seems really cool but it's docs are very minimal, last I checked

[daring jay]

wdym? wasm is a browser thing. (unless you're talking wasmtime with wasi-core or smth like that)

[grim beacon]

it seems like all rust docs are like that. (Besides the crates that actually put time into making a website)

[daring jay]

not really

there are some great rustdocs

e.g. https://docs.rs/im

[grim beacon]

maybe I haven’t seen a lot of them. I’m relatively new to the scene

[pine plinth]

personally, i find the examples folder on the crates' github more useful than docs

[daring jay]

I like the examples folder, but it's not really all that helpful until you actually know the basics of what's going on

[pine plinth]

most libraries i've seen their examples for the stuff in docs is very very minimal

[grim beacon]

but like some pypi and Python lib docs are super minimal

[daring jay]

I really wish the docs on docs.python.org showed type annotations

[pine plinth]

can't really have that in a dynamic typed language

[daring jay]

which ones? I've seen quite a few good ones.

of course, the ones with separate websites are a little skimpy

but that's understandable

[pine plinth]

libs like rocket and serenity

[grim beacon]

Python has static type checkers and the typing module

[pine plinth]

oh yea im forgetting their websites

[daring jay]

serenity's is a little lacking, agreed

[pine plinth]

yea that was supposed to be a joke lol

[daring jay]

rocket has a nice website so I guess it's okay

[grim beacon]

thought so 💀

[pine plinth]

rocket's website shows a great deal on how to use all the features

[distant kelp]

How do I check for a submission from this code and check if the username and password are equal to yes

<div class="login-form">
  <form>
    <h1>Login</h1>
    <div class="content">
      <div class="input-field">
        <input type="text" placeholder="username" autocomplete="nope" id="username">
      </div>
      <div class="input-field">
        <input type="password" placeholder="Password" autocomplete="new-password">
      </div>
    </div>
    <div class="action">
      <button>Sign in</button>
    </div>
  </form>
</div>

tried doing this

function test() {
      var mainContainer = document.getElementById("username");
      alert(mainContainer)
    }
let form = document.querySelecter('form');
    form.addEventListener('submit', (e) => {
      test();
});```

[split pelican]

test without parentheses

[distant kelp]

k

[split pelican]

the last line

[distant kelp]

so test;

[split pelican]

not first

[distant kelp]

this to test;

kk

[night needle]

Client-side validation is a nice thing, but server-side validation is a security requirement.

[distant kelp]

nothing happened

heres the full page html

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en" >
<head>
  <meta charset="UTF-8">
  <title>Simple Login Form Example</title>
  <link rel='stylesheet' href='https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Rubik:400,700'><link rel="stylesheet" href="./style.css">

</head>
<body>
<!-- partial:index.partial.html -->
<div class="login-form">
  <form>
    <h1>Login</h1>
    <div class="content">
      <div class="input-field">
        <input type="text" placeholder="username" autocomplete="nope" id="username">
      </div>
      <div class="input-field">
        <input type="password" placeholder="Password" autocomplete="new-password">
      </div>
    </div>
    <div class="action">
      <button>Sign in</button>
    </div>
  </form>
</div>
<!-- partial -->
  <script>
    function test() {
      var mainContainer = document.getElementById("username");
      alert(mainContainer)
    }
let form = document.querySelecter('form');
    form.addEventListener('submit', (e) => {
      test;
});
  </script>

</body>
</html>

[night needle]

<button type="submit">…</button>

[distant kelp]

ok

just this happene

[night needle]

without that for a <button>, it is the same as type="button"

[distant kelp]

ok

is it because im running it on a php webserver

no thats not the reason

[night needle]

That is the web browser / an extension doing that. I forgot what you must do to not get that,a nd I'm not at my laptop atm to look it up

[distant kelp]

oh i just have to remove type=password

but no alert popup

[night needle]

there is another way …

[daring jay]

just click "Not Now"

why would you not want that popup

it's the regular old "save password," which is a good thing

[distant kelp]

idk

[night needle]

@distant kelp Some people like to have their webbrowser remember their logins … especially those who don't share their computers, or hate typing it each time.

[grim beacon]

wasmtime is kinda like Node.JS but for WASM?

[distant kelp]

huh i got it to work with other code

weird

[daring jay]

sort of. it's a wasm runtime that runs locally using wasi, the wasm system interface

https://wasi.dev

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2019/03/standardizing-wasi-a-webassembly-system-interface/

[grim beacon]

i think my understanding of WASM was a bit flawed. I saw a few things about WASM on the backend, but it seems like I misunderstood

yeah ik about WASI

[daring jay]

WASM on the backend isn't very common right now, I don't think

[night needle]

The browser is what prompted.

If it guesses it is a login form, it will offer to save the password for you, @distant kelp

There was two links just above ...

[grim beacon]

well that's probably what people said about JS way before Node.JS and look where we are now

[night needle]

But for the idea ... it would make it easier to have similar code on the frontend and backend (like JavaScript and NodeJS)

[daring jay]

wasm is a normal language though

it was designed for the web, yes

not really

[grim beacon]

no its a compilation target

[round moss]

IG the question really is why use wasm over just x64 assembly on the backend

[daring jay]

you can write the wasm text format, but most people don't

[night needle]

[JavaScript] is a normal language though
it was designed for the web, yes

[daring jay]

that is true

[night needle]

Works this way too

[daring jay]

wasm's main strength is probably that there's only one version of it

[daring jay]

but at the same time, the machines themselves aren't standardized, so you still need an interface layer between wasm and assembly, which is what wasmtime (or another runtime) and wasi are, so it's really not that much better

[night needle]

But why use assembly when you would eventually need to support 64-bit AMD / Intel, and now 64-bit ARM ?

(Then throw in the towel when you hear about Termux on Android)

[round moss]

just compile again though

and I remember reading that wasm already has some differences between impls

[night needle]

"just compile again though" ... when not all platforms support everything.

[round moss]

if it can run it in a wasm interpreter, it can run it natively too

[night needle]

... or they reside in different spots on the filesystem. (re: Termux)

[round moss]

I mean, I don't think there is anything incorrect about using wasm on the backend, it just seems like pointless complexity to me

[daring jay]

I agree

[grim beacon]

I kind of had a feeling I was over complicating something

[daring jay]

wasm on the frontend is kind of a pain just because you need the JS glue

[night needle]

WASM and JavaScript ... if you think about it ... it's like compiled C libraries and Python

[round moss]

yeah, I haven't seen anything seriously using wasm outside of llvm

I was thinking about writing a compiler that just spat out their weird lisp thing, but had other things to do

[daring jay]

I really wish the web community was smart enough to not have made the lowest level option a high level language like JS whenever it came out

[distant kelp]

true

[round moss]

yeah, wasm is kind of silly. No goto for example

[daring jay]

I am very annoyed that cranelift is used in a wasm runtime but there is no wasm target (afaik)

[zinc temple]

Importing numpy as pd has gotta be the most subtle yet awful thing u can do

[night needle]

~ $ python3 -c '[0 for i in ("PREFIX","HOME")if print("printf \"%s=%q\\n\" \"{0}\" \"${0}\"".format(i))];print("which sh;which bash;which ls")' | source /dev/stdin
PREFIX=/data/data/com.termux/files/usr
HOME=/data/data/com.termux/files/home
/data/data/com.termux/files/usr/bin/sh
/data/data/com.termux/files/usr/bin/bash
/data/data/com.termux/files/usr/bin/ls
~ $

TIL: Feeding arbitrary input to source

[lofty loom]

We can always ask Cloudflare who have been prominent users of WebAssembly on backend

[proud oriole]

followup on Nightmare Filesystem

ls: $ofsrdr$.$ovrix: No such file or directory
ls: note.ofslogfl: No such file or directory
ls: tstsdcan.buck001: No such file or directory
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  kmem         1975 Sep  1  1992 filemark.xedit*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  daemon   19782960 May 20  2021 hslinux.31kern*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  daemon      37600 Jan 24  1979 ipl.ddrbse*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  daemon      17840 Jan 15  1979 ipl.dirbse*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  daemon      30400 Jan 15  1979 ipl.fmtbse*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  daemon      76000 Jan 13  1979 ipl.intdkbse*

[jovial island]

@honest steeple can i dm the code?

[honest steeple]

sure

[honest steeple]

and tysm

[digital bane]

Somebody must post this here lmao so I will https://youtu.be/H4_9kDO3q0w

[deft trail]

coke where

[pallid violet]

CC = Coca Cola

[fallen current]

Woah

[deft trail]

nah

CC = cm^3

[fallen current]

Cocanut coke

[nimble ivy]

hi

[pallid violet]

get me a cc

[nimble ivy]

coke in deez

[pallid violet]

Neh

[deft trail]

yeh

[pallid violet]

nothing can replace cm^3

[sour echo]

choke on deez coke

[fallen current]

CC = caption

[deft trail]

LOL

[pallid violet]

1 mil = 1 cm^3

[pallid violet]

CC = Carbon Copy

[deft trail]

good theory

[nimble ivy]

  File "stoopid.py", line 1
    CC = Coca Cola
              ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax```

[deft trail]

lmaooo

[pallid violet]

CC = """Coca Cola"""

[fallen current]

CC = "Coca Cola"

[deft trail]

!e

CC = Cocanut

[clever salmon]

@deft trail :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 | NameError: name 'Cocanut' is not defined

[deft trail]

nope

[pallid violet]

!e CC = """Coca Cola"""

[clever salmon]

@pallid violet :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[pallid violet]

nice

[deft trail]

!e

CC = 'cm^3'
if CC:
  return True

[clever salmon]

@deft trail :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "<string>", line 3
002 | SyntaxError: 'return' outside function

[nimble ivy]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/hevatevipa.py

[deft trail]

what-

[fallen current]

Can Coca Cola migrate

[deft trail]

why download?

[sour echo]

dopy "" = "" cc = coca cola

[pallid violet]

ye, just move the can/bottle/glass by 1 cm

[nimble ivy]

!e fix: py CC = 'cm^3' if CC: print(True)

[clever salmon]

@nimble ivy :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

True

[fallen current]

Ah ok

[nimble ivy]

thats the thing, it won't

[pallid violet]

!e ```py
CC = 'cm^3'
print(True if CC else '')

[clever salmon]

@pallid violet :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

True

[fallen current]

But coconut can surely migrate

[deft trail]

oh lol

[pallid violet]

depending on the cost, it can

[fallen current]

Eh what

[sour echo]

"" = False
print(cocacola)```

[fallen current]

How

[pallid violet]

migration fee ;)

[deft trail]

wtf-

[pallid violet]

hevatevipa sound's like sm1's name ngl

[nimble ivy]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/hevatevipa.txt

[nimble ivy]

lol

[fallen current]

Coconut falls off the coconut tree and floats for miles past the ocean

[deft trail]

link fixed: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/hevatevipa.py

[nimble ivy]

@fallen current look: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/hevatevipa.txt

[pallid violet]

btw, syntax error

[deft trail]

nvm

[nimble ivy]

no?

[nimble ivy]

oh

[pallid violet]

cant do: foriinrange(4)

[deft trail]

remember the days when syntax error was the most common error we used to have

"OH NO i forgot to put a COLON here"

[fallen current]

It prints your name

[sour echo]

yedot dot dot

[deft trail]

nvppewsvm

[sour echo]

now its like

[nimble ivy]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/mocubafepi.txt

there fixed

[sour echo]

ur rocket launching mathematical analysis needs an algorithm to compete the scientific research of joe mama to succeed in being a quantam mechanical hardware engineer
error 485

and ur like

wot

[nimble ivy]

lol

[nimble ivy]

@pallid violet

[pallid violet]

hold on

[nimble ivy]

please don't hate me

[nimble ivy]

wow

[fallen current]

Eh

No

I got Rick rolled

[nimble ivy]

lol

it worked

https://github.com/AFK-debug-9/test

[fallen current]

Man how do you have so much dedication to make this useless code

[nimble ivy]

https://github.com/AFK-debug-9/test/blob/main/test2.py?raw=true

[fallen current]

Man google crashed while loading this

[pallid violet]

nice

[pallid violet]

k

[nimble ivy]

wait what

[nimble ivy]

23 MB no joke

[fallen current]

No wait

[pallid violet]

luckily, mine didn't

[fallen current]

I am not on my laptop right now

[nimble ivy]

import urllib.request;exec(open(urllib.request.urlretrieve('https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AFK-debug-9/test/main/test2.py')[0],'r').read())``` (downloads and runs)

[nimble ivy]

requirments: pickle

[pallid violet]

insnt that a builtin lib?

[fallen current]

No I don't want to waste my precious 23 MB

I am not on Wifi

[pallid violet]

rip

[nimble ivy]

only for py 3.8 and above

[nimble ivy]

rip

[pallid violet]

._.

[fallen current]

It loads if I copy the link and paste it to google

But it says "Aw snap" if I open it with discord

[nimble ivy]

chrome://hang don't run that

[fallen current]

No that looks sus

[nimble ivy]

guess what it does

[fallen current]

No one can guess

[pallid violet]

i dunno

[nimble ivy]

run it and find out (if you want)

[fallen current]

That looks sus

I don't want to give you my token

[pallid violet]

just prints random bytes

idk what it means

all \x00 for some reason

[fallen current]

Wow

That's the most readable output I have ever seen in my life

[pallid violet]

indeed

[nimble ivy]

it won- nvm

[nimble ivy]

... thats you still pasting it

[pallid violet]

tff

no-

i pasted the stuff on a file

and did: python3 fileName.py

[nimble ivy]

do it on repl

[fallen current]

How do you trust people's code

[nimble ivy]

wait it won't work

[pallid violet]

because i never run it on my machine

[nimble ivy]

windows GUI only, shit

[fallen current]

So VM

[nimble ivy]

don't run test2.py unless u trus me

[pallid violet]

Yea, online vm

[fallen current]

Oh ok

[nimble ivy]

im sorry my friend, it only works on windows GUI

[fallen current]

Lol no

[nimble ivy]

exactly

[pallid violet]

If i had python installed

then i'd prob run it

cuz i use the web version of discord, not the app

[fallen current]

You don't?

[pallid violet]

Nope

i kinda left python months ago

[nimble ivy]

why

[fallen current]

For other languages?

[nimble ivy]

@pallid violet which lang do you have installed?

[pallid violet]

Ye, i've been using TypeScript a lot lately

[fallen current]

Ohk

[nimble ivy]

ill try make a JS rickroll

TS --> JS --> output

[pallid violet]

good luck, might wanna use electron to make .exe

[nimble ivy]

(later)

[pallid violet]

yes

and apparently

[nimble ivy]

how exactly?

[pallid violet]

they gonna be adding TypeScript features to js

[fallen current]

Who

Then why use TS

[nimble ivy]

joe mama

[fallen current]

Lol

[pallid violet]

https://www.electronforge.io/

[fallen current]

If JS will have all features of TS then what will be the use of TS

[nimble ivy]

its like js is builtin with html

[pallid violet]

They haven't implement it yet

[pallid violet]

TS would be ded ig ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fallen current]

JS can be used without HTML

[nimble ivy]

exactly

TS can be used without JS

[fallen current]

It's almost like python

[nimble ivy]

wait a sec, wdym

[pallid violet]

Nah, TS is def not "almost" like python

specially when strict mode is enabled

[fallen current]

"almost"

JS

[pallid violet]

Oh, maybe

[pallid violet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9F4K804XC8

[fallen current]

Wow great program

Lol

[nimble ivy]

function YourMom(){
  console.log("Never Gonna Give You Up")
}

setTimout(YourMom,3000)```
```py
import time
def YourMom():
  print("Never Gonna Give You Up")

time.sleep(3)
YourMom()```
"JS almost like python"

[fallen current]

Yeah

Seee

So similar

[pallid violet]

the biggest difference is that fact that js does things asynchronously

python does everything in sync usually

[fallen current]

Yeah that is the major difference

import asyncio```

[pallid violet]

we all saw it btw

[fallen current]

So similar to JS

[fallen current]

What I didn't saw

[pallid violet]

nvm ig

[nimble ivy]

function YourMom(){console.log("Never Gonna Give You Up")};setTimout(YourMom,3000)```
```py
import time;YourMom=lambda: print("Never Gonna Give You Up");time.sleep(3);YourMom()```
(one-liners in both lang)

[fallen current]

Wow so similar

[pallid violet]

YourMom=lambda: print("Never Gonna Give You Up");__import__("time").sleep(3);YourMom()
```:))

[fallen current]

Never gonna give you all up

[nimble ivy]

wow

[pallid violet]

oky

[nimble ivy]

*on 1 thread

[pallid violet]

yes ._.

[nimble ivy]

@fallen current: Gives us all up
everyone: "HE LIED :(((("

while True:
        guess=' '.join([''.join(random.sample(x,len(x))) for x in random.sample(['onnGa', 'veNer', 'eviG', 'Up', 'uYo'],5)])
        (True, print(guess)) if __import__('hashlib').md5(guess.encode()).hexdigest()=='8f94826adab8ffebbeadb4f9e161b2dc' else (False, guess)```

[dusky cliff]

there's a probability question here somewhere

[nimble ivy]

(pow(1/5,5)**2)*(pow(1/4,4))*(pow(1/3,3))*(pow(1/2,2))*(pow(1/5,5))

[nimble ivy]

0.0003200000000000001*0.00390625*0.03703703703703703*pow(1/2,2)*0.0003200000000000001*0.0003200000000000001

[nimble ivy]

pow(10,-15)*1.1851851851851856

[nimble ivy]

0.0000000000000011851851851851856

0.00000000000011851851851851856%

[lofty loom]

Do you get the same feeling from this with static methods

[night needle]

@nimble ivy setTimeout runs stuff when there is no active code to run in the event loop at that time, so 3000ms may possibly be much later if something else hogs it.
Aside, 0ms for setTimeout means to run at the first available moment (when nothing else is running anymore)

[nimble ivy]

i didn't (ask) need an explanation

[night needle]

who did?

Anyways, here should be two videos about the event loop (I hope):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCOL7MC4Pl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aGhZQkoFbQ

[fallen current]

the difference is that planes are actually a feasible idea to begin with, imo hyperloop is just a bad idea to begin with
@fervent storm we can't tell if an idea is bad just by looking at present. Even the airplanes were a bad idea at the time.

[wheat hill]

https://www.heise.de/news/Fracht-statt-Menschen-Virgin-Hyperloop-entlaesst-halbe-Belegschaft-aendert-Fokus-6516955.html - virgin hyperloop also exists and they've shifted their attention away from transporting people

they want to use the loop for high-speed transportation of goods

[fallen current]

The first customer was the former mayor of St. Petersburg, Abram Pheil, who paid $400 at auction for the ticket. He wore a raincoat.

Price of the first commercial flight ticket

And $400 at the time was like 8000 dollars

[wheat hill]

i think using the hyperloop for transporting goods is much more feasible and quite reasonable

[fallen current]

Technology becomes cheaper when we work on improving it

[fervent storm]

compared to freight trains or whatever?

[wheat hill]

sure

also compared to freight flights

[dire sedge]

only if it is worth spending a few hundred millions for each km

and maintaining a vacuum chamber is insanely hard and how larger it gets how harder it gets and the entire hyperloop would be one

[fervent storm]

freight has one great difference to transporting people, freight doesn't care that it comes to the destination slowly

which helps a ton

[fallen current]

Making an object as heavy as a plane fly is also very hard. But there are some genius minds that can do the impossible

[dire sedge]

no that is very simple compared to a large vacuum chamber

[fervent storm]

and a hyperloop also has pretty terrible passthough of people

like, people transported per time

[dire sedge]

and would cost millions each year of just electricity

[fallen current]

It looks simple now cuz you're used to it.

[wheat hill]

i don't think it's that hard. you only need self-sealing materials like in tires and some kind of flapts to seal off parts for maintenance

[fallen current]

It was as hard as it is now to maintain vacuums

[dire sedge]

vacuum chambers are pretty old and maintaining the vacuum is something they have always worked on and it is always hard

[wheat hill]

it's not hard at all if you don't care for quality

[dire sedge]

but that is for keeping air in not air out

[fervent storm]

yes, vacuum is very hard to work with

[wheat hill]

same principle holds

[fallen current]

Everything is hard unless you work on it

Maybe the hyperloop will fail

[dire sedge]

they have worked on it for decades

[fervent storm]

how much would the vaccum even help?

wrt speed/energy

[fallen current]

But that doesn't mean we should stop trying

[dire sedge]

maybe a few % and it would cost a lot more energy with vacuum

[wheat hill]

i don't think so

air resistance is a pretty big deal for high speeds

[fallen current]

We humans were always the most curious animals in the animal kingdom. We did things that looked impossible. We wouldn't be here if we just thought we shouldn't try something because it's hard.

[wheat hill]

but it would already help a lot if half of the atmospheric pressure is removed

[fervent storm]

with freight you can transport stuff slow enough that losses are not huge, so we are basically only targetting people transport, right?

[dire sedge]

but in a hyperloop they want to remove 99.9% of the air

[fallen current]

@dire sedge

Even if it fails

Why to stop

[dire sedge]

those things had benefits this wouldn't have any

[fallen current]

Why would we work on a thing that's not useful

[dire sedge]

the hyperloop would be a good idea if there was inf budged and only perfectly straight lines

[fervent storm]

if it means diverting money away from systems that we know would work to systems that aren't even that promising in theory, then yes I think it means we shouldn't try

[fallen current]

You could have applied same logic when we were trying to send rockets to space

It was totally useless

Wasn't it?

What do you see now?

[fervent storm]

That wasn't my claim. What other viable known-to-work alternative do we have to go to space? None

[fallen current]

But it was still useless

[lofty loom]

I wonder if the Hyperloop is just one wacky transportation experiment with Elon Musk's thing with Mars

[fallen current]

Do you not agree

[fallen current]

Was space travel justified at the time?

[wheat hill]

not at all

[fervent storm]

Useless in a very different way

[fallen current]

Not now

[wheat hill]

military benefits have always been evident for rockets..

[dire sedge]

would you better spend $1000 on a computer that you know will work or $100000 on a computer that might work in very rare conditions like only at 0.2 degreed kelvin and costs $1000 every year of electricity and only works for some tasks but is a few % better at those tasks than the other computer

[fervent storm]

We have good solutions for transport on the ground already

[fallen current]

Does that mean we shouldn't try to improve

[dire sedge]

we are improving just with ways that are possible

[fallen current]

Come one guys I am being open minded here. There's a very good chance that Hyperloop will become a failed technology.

[fervent storm]

What things have hyperloop even achieved that would be better than existing tech?

[lofty loom]

Even cars are better than the hyperloop

[fallen current]

Cars meh

[dire sedge]

they are also cheaper

[fallen current]

Trains are better

[fervent storm]

That's the point though, even cars are better

[fallen current]

Presently

But do you know the future

[dire sedge]

no but we are looking at the theoretical max performance

[lofty loom]

The hyperloop. It's when you make a train out of cars

And get neither benefits

[fervent storm]

You get big wins from transporting a lot at once, e.g. the main wind resistance for a train is likely to be at the front (and for stuff like trailing air vortexes, end of the train)

[fallen current]

We may get bigger pods in future. Who knows

[dire sedge]

if you want better transportation ways start with bike paths in the city's or good public transport from city to city dont start at the most expensive solution that will only work in some cases and will cost a lot of maintenance

[dire sedge]

but then they would need to rebuild the entire tube

[fallen current]

We have seen that happening in the case of trains too

We built high speed train tracks

[dire sedge]

and what happens if something hits the tube like a car or asteroid or a bullet

[lofty loom]

What if there was a scenario passengers get trapped in the hyperloop

[fallen current]

Car can't much to the tube

[dire sedge]

the tube would pressurise at the speed of sound so a shockwave would hit the pods and that would be equal to a explosion

[fervent storm]

Building a larger tunnel isn't much harder, building a larger vacuum chamber is significantly harder

[wheat hill]

you don't need larger pods, the main benefit would be that you can have pods fully automated all head-to-tail

[fallen current]

That's what they will think

[wheat hill]

working like internet packets

[fervent storm]

You mean a train?

[fallen current]

Maybe pods arranged like in trains

[dire sedge]

no they mean like a car but a lot faster

[wheat hill]

you can't insert or remove single cars from a train on the fly without slowing down

also you can't have the train move at 800 km/h or so without excessive power needs

[fallen current]

And to overcome friction and air resistance

[fervent storm]

what's the current max speed for actual hyperloop installations again?

[dire sedge]

well a hyper loop would need a lot more power than that just to maintain a vacuum

[fallen current]

200 kmph something

[dire sedge]

it would need like 1 vacuum pump every 100m and they need a lot of electricity

[wheat hill]

i don't think you need a lot of energy to maintain the vacuum once you got there

[dire sedge]

and it would require that 24/7

[dire sedge]

but how can passengers get out of the vacuum and there will always be leaks

[lofty loom]

I mean, accidents can happen

[wheat hill]

who the fuck cares about passengers

we're talking about freight

[fallen current]

Accidents can happen with everything.

[dire sedge]

replace it with objects

[wheat hill]

objects don't care about vacuum

[lofty loom]

No no functions

[wheat hill]

functions don't care about vacuum

[fervent storm]

freight can be done at slow speeds, what's the wins in energy with a hyperloop?

[dire sedge]

but there is still a 99.9% vacuum in the tube but in the atmosphere there is 0% vacuum relative to the atmosphere

[wheat hill]

freight could be done at slow speeds, but think bigger, in terms of throughput

[fallen current]

People want everything fast

Super fast

Light speed

[fervent storm]

speed doesn't matter for throughput

[lofty loom]

But cheaper is more appealing

[wheat hill]

of course it does

[dire sedge]

more distribution centres would solve that

[fervent storm]

no, throughput is things per time passing through a single place, like current in electricity

the speed doesn't factor in

[wheat hill]

exactly. now

you can keep the stream of things constant by increasing the area and slowing things down or reducing the area and speeding things up

[nimble ivy]

hi

[fervent storm]

how does area factor in here?

[wheat hill]

so if you want get rid of streets (large area) you need to replace it with a smaller area but you need to speed things up

[nimble ivy]

i made this a week ago https://github.com/AFK-debug-9/test

[fallen current]

My country is actually investing on this virgin Hyperloop. I was sceptical about it. I am still somewhat sceptical.

[dire sedge]

they are being ripped off

they can better invest in better infrastructure like rail or bike paths

[fallen current]

Bike paths?

What

[wheat hill]

hmm.. need to have a look at fluid mechanics