ot2-the-original-pubsta

[crisp cedar]

mmm..

money talk

[blissful coral]

because that's pretty much what most decent stocks would get you

[crisp cedar]

were you here for the math convo

[blissful coral]

you don;t even need to think

just go and invest in NVDA

[crisp cedar]

unless your last 10 trades were green

you need to listen right now

[radiant socket]

it's much less than what you could get, but it's very safe

[blissful coral]

True, but thats more like "save money from inflation" thinking rather than actually turning out chunky profits

but to each their own I suppose

[wicked hollow]

Good stocks will give much more than that, bad stocks will give much less. The diversified portfolio is a hedge against risk that minimizes the chance of large losses, and in exchange also minimizes the chance of large gains.

[crisp cedar]

your chunky profits are also chunky losses

[blissful coral]

I don't know where you guys are getting the ideas for chunky losses. unless you're investing on Volatile stocks like GME? 🤷‍♂️

just check the Beta man

[wicked hollow]

inflation is ~3% per year on average, so the ~10% per year on average from an index tracking fund easily beats inflation.

[blissful coral]

ik - just sayings its not really that much

[wicked hollow]

it's very good for a safe investment.

[crisp cedar]

if you had a million dollars

youd see inflation

[wicked hollow]

you see inflation on any amount of dollars

[mental idol]

If you have a penny, you see inflation.

[crisp cedar]

but you guys love it

i forgot

[radiant socket]

🤔

[daring jay]

no one here loves the value of their money going down, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen

[blissful coral]

ngl, this kinda reminds of those reddit comments - "NFT profile = disregard all comments" 🤣

[radiant socket]

inflation is necessary, though, from an economics perspective

[blissful coral]

is it? I don't understand enough economics for that

[radiant socket]

according to my textbook 😩

[crisp cedar]

it is a product

[wicked hollow]

inflation is a product of human nature.

[crisp cedar]

not really necessary

just happens

[wicked hollow]

you would need to make a different kind of human for it to stop happening.

[crisp cedar]

but the government makes it worse

is my point

[blissful coral]

ahh, makes sense

[crisp cedar]

but you guys have no clue what the government does

so it makes it even worse

[blissful coral]

well, enlighten us

[wicked hollow]

I can't imagine why you think that

[crisp cedar]

you sure you want that lol

[crisp cedar]

because they don't tell you

thats why i imagine it

[blissful coral]

yes, as long as you dont go into republican conspiracy theories

oh shit

[crisp cedar]

hek 239

isn't a conspiracy

sorry bud

[blissful coral]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[crisp cedar]

sorry to explode your understanding of "life"

but its all a sham

[blissful coral]

what is that? all I get are cells on wiki

[radiant socket]

why are we talking about bio? i thought we were talking about econ

[crisp cedar]

if you want to know you'll find out

[jovial island]

…That kinda sounds like confirmation bias

[crisp cedar]

a google search is confirmation bias?

sorry you guys can't use your noddle

[blissful coral]

would you happen to be a flat eather by any chance? @crisp cedar

[crisp cedar]

noo

i happen to be i don't know what the fuck

if you're wondering

😄

[wicked hollow]

are birds real?

[blissful coral]

well...

[crisp cedar]

yes

they are ai

but real

[blissful coral]

well....

this explains a lot

[crisp cedar]

your welcome

❤️

[radiant socket]

if by real, you mean they were in on the kennedy assasination, and were unaware that the CIA were assisting them, then yes

[crisp cedar]

i seen kennedy get shot right in the face by the driver

i cant ever unsee that

they cropped it so perfect the driver turns around

tripped me tf out

[wicked hollow]

I hear kennedy is coming back, anyway

[crisp cedar]

😮 i hear the same.. or heard..

[jovial island]

This sounds a little bit like "if you want to have evidence that you think supports your theory, you'll find it"

[radiant socket]

episode 5?

[crisp cedar]

no that's like a google is a search away and it right in your face

you will find what you're searching for

that is natural law

[radiant socket]

that's called bias

[mental idol]

Dead Kennedys... my childhood punk.

[blissful coral]

I hope you didn't read that stuff on TRUTH

[crisp cedar]

read what man

[blissful coral]

about the gov and all

[crisp cedar]

I read that shit on government documents

is that good enough for you

the ones that hold laws, and restrictions over your life

[blissful coral]

source?

[jovial island]

Hmm, can you give that easily-Googleable conspiracy proof?

[crisp cedar]

you dont want it man honestly

i'd pick a different topic

[blissful coral]

I suppose we do

[crisp cedar]

look at your dick

proof enough?

exactly

[radiant socket]

how old are you, if you don't mind me asking?

[crisp cedar]

you already guessed

[radiant socket]

i was right?

[crisp cedar]

yes

[radiant socket]

lol

[crisp cedar]

dont forget age is just a number

and i knew this when i was your age

[wicked hollow]

OK, so, compounding interest: You invest $10k per year, and assume an average return on investment of 10%. After 30 years, you have spent $300k, but your portfolio is worth $1.2M.

[jovial island]

I mean, I can give evidence on why the Earth is a turtle, but you guys also won't want to learn about it, I tell you

[crisp cedar]

if you have 10k and you double it 9 times

you rich

multi millionaire

type shit

[blissful coral]

well sure, but 30 years is a long time

[crisp cedar]

you can't give evidence to that though.. you see?

[blissful coral]

and guaranteeing that for 30 years becomes even more probabilistically hard

[wicked hollow]

then invest more than $10k per year 😄

[mental idol]

The Earth is not a turtle.... it's on the back of four great elephants who are standing on the back of a turtle. ;)

[blissful coral]

that's a huge sum ngl, but doable i suppose

[wicked hollow]

it's not, though - those are long term stock market averages.

[crisp cedar]

if you want a brain buster tho how is the sun on fire in space

with no oxygen

[wicked hollow]

those returns are based on historical averages, that is.

[radiant socket]

it's not on fire

[blissful coral]

wow

[crisp cedar]

dingdingding i think this was the answer

[blissful coral]

I sure was right

[crisp cedar]

i asked science teacher this when i was young blew all our minds

[radiant socket]

and fwiw, you don't need oxygen to burn

[crisp cedar]

rly

[radiant socket]

no, you just needs something that likes electrons a lot

[crisp cedar]

I see

[blissful coral]

nuclear processes don't require any external component....

you could have just googled that tbh

[crisp cedar]

i was 9 when i first aksed that question

[blissful coral]

oh thats cool then

[sinful sun]

Nuclear processes arent combustion

[blissful coral]

I thought you meant a few years ago

[wicked hollow]

https://dqydj.com/sp-500-return-calculator/ - between 1990 and 2020, for instance, the S&P 500 gained 10.197% per year on average, if you reinvest any dividends paid by the stocks. Between 1980 and 2010, it was 10.822%.

[crisp cedar]

but it still doesn't make sense if we are talking about earth i have goten much more evidence for manipulation

such as moon landing way too much undeniable proof

[radiant socket]

evo do you have a job?

[crisp cedar]

that it didnt happen..

[crisp cedar]

student

[radiant socket]

studying cs?

[crisp cedar]

trying

procrastinating

as we speak

and im on a binger

dont help

[jovial island]

Doesn't really help "you'd rather not learn about it" skirts around giving proof

[blissful coral]

well, sparing 10k in early years is sure a lot

[crisp cedar]

i gave you proof, you didn't read i skipped topic because it's not a good one

[blissful coral]

when?

[crisp cedar]

and I also don't care to argue passions

[radiant socket]

the proof was "you don't want proof"

[blissful coral]

I see no links

[crisp cedar]

the proof was a single sentence

and again, if i gave you proof it's not like you guys are open minded

so it does nobody any good

[blissful coral]

try us

[crisp cedar]

scroll up

lol

[wicked hollow]

eh, sure. in practice most people ramp up their investments over time. That makes the math harder and less clear, though, and it stops being a demonstration of just compounding interest.

[crisp cedar]

why not google

since you're so good at googling

[blissful coral]

its pretty much a demonstration of "wait x years and become rich"

[crisp cedar]

compounding interest is 8th wonder of world

[crisp cedar]

thats investing

[jovial island]

I would rather you give this easily-Googleable proof, honestly

[blissful coral]

long term investments aren't new

[crisp cedar]

give me whatever you want i accept anything for interpretation

whether you like my output or not is up to you

most people dont

😄

[wicked hollow]

Don't the retroreflectors on the moon's surface prove pretty conclusively that we landed there and placed them?

[crisp cedar]

idek what a retroreflector is

[jovial island]

…?

[radiant socket]

no, they were placed by kennedy's assassins

[crisp cedar]

what i was getting is people went to the moon but we lied first

[radiant socket]

the state of college education 😩

[crisp cedar]

we lied to say we did it first because we are usa

[blissful coral]

AFAIK Donald Trump was the first astronaut on the moon, right?

[crisp cedar]

lol you're so educated

I take proofs

[sinful sun]

What is even going on here

[wicked hollow]

they're a type of mirror that shoots back light in exactly the direction that it came from. We can verify that they're there by aiming lasers at them, the light from our own laser is redirected straight back at us when we hit the retroreflector

[crisp cedar]

you guys take words and the path your fellow sheep walked

[jovial island]

Yes, he was the confirmer of the four-elephant Earth theory

[crisp cedar]

that is very very interesting and never heard anything like that but brings me more questions

[blissful coral]

delusional conspiracy nut thinks he's correct without facts

[jovial island]

…[citation needed]?

[crisp cedar]

something about the moon that made me question everything was footprints everywhere

but 00000 rover marks

[blissful coral]

I personally dont even care about public opinion as long as you have the facts

[wicked hollow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_retroreflectors_on_the_Moon

[crisp cedar]

flag blowing in the wind , etc

[sinful sun]

The moon is made of cheese, everyone knows

[blissful coral]

WHAT

[blissful coral]

you forgot the rabbit too

[jovial island]

And the turtle, we must not forget

[blissful coral]

but wait guys, does the moon really exist? or are we in a simulation by liberals? 🤔

[crisp cedar]

was it apollo 11 that placed retroreflectors?

[crisp cedar]

def sim

prob not by liberals they aren't smart enough

[radiant socket]

the moon is not 360_000 km away, actually

it spins in a flat concave hyperbolic geometry

[crisp cedar]

also ancient texts which should be taken seriously

[sinful sun]

Why

[crisp cedar]

very questionable things written in such as a time where there was 2 moons

[blissful coral]

haha yes

[radiant socket]

the turboencabulator simulations show that this is true

[crisp cedar]

documented by ancient native americans

[sinful sun]

Lmao

[wicked hollow]

The flag isn't blowing - it's supported by a pole on top (the pole is shaped kinda like a 7), and it's wrinkled because it was curled up in a tube for a week.

[crisp cedar]

understood

[jovial island]

[citation needed], again, I guess

[crisp cedar]

explain the rover marks now

[blissful coral]

Did you hear about the Quantum physics article published in Nature documenting the Zeno Effect, demonstrating that the moon may not exist and is actually a projected reflection

[crisp cedar]

or the tin can spaceship

[wicked hollow]

it's actually quite easy to debunk "fake moon landing" conspiracy theories.

[crisp cedar]

quantum is the trippiest of all

shows we know nothing about life

[blissful coral]

sure is bud

[wicked hollow]

https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/topics/moon-landing-conspiracy-theories-debunked for instance.

[crisp cedar]

rover tracks

[sinful sun]

Btw things can "blow" in the vacuum of space, thats like the whole theory behind solar sails

[jovial island]

Hmm, do go on

[wicked hollow]

what about them? That's one I haven't heard of.

[crisp cedar]

they dont exist...

[wicked hollow]

they... do

[crisp cedar]

they dont..

[wicked hollow]

you can see them in a telescope

[crisp cedar]

what about the nasa picture

i want to see them there

[radiant socket]

"the nasa picture"

[crisp cedar]

right next to the footprints

[crisp cedar]

yeah the nasa picture

what about it

[radiant socket]

i think there's more than one of those

[crisp cedar]

never asked

[jovial island]

Yeah, probably need to specify

[crisp cedar]

well the footprints

find a picture with footprints

with the rover tracks included

and youll have me convinced

[pseudo creek]

here's yer nasa pictures:
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/apollo-sites.html

[crisp cedar]

awful picture

[radiant socket]

https://petapixel.com/2019/04/10/footprints-on-the-moon-photos-with-a-different-view-of-the-moon-landings/

[crisp cedar]

cant even see the foot pritns

i want to se both

yeah LOOK!
l

look how detailed that foot is

no show me the track

now*

[radiant socket]

yeah, cause one was taken in orbit, and one was taken about 2 feet away

[crisp cedar]

nope

no explaining that

sorry

[radiant socket]

ooh, this one is labelled

[sinful sun]

How would you see a footprint from orbit, you can barely see your own footprints

[crisp cedar]

you guys can try to pull something out your ass but professional people trip about this stuff

thats why its so controversial

now picture our government

[daring jay]

I think you're grasping at straws here

[crisp cedar]

surely they don't lie about anything right?

[mental idol]

Pizza-cutter isn't grasping. This is flailing.

[sinful sun]

The government lies about a lot of things, this aint it chief

[crisp cedar]

also the water stuck to earch is interesting

[wicked hollow]

http://www.clavius.org/rover1.html is one of NASA's images, and shows both rover tracks and boot prints

[crisp cedar]

LOL WINNER

i do see them

[jovial island]

Here's the constant [citation needed] message every five minutes

[crisp cedar]

in that picture god

the problem is the footprints are more prominent

that makes 0 sense

and so the problem isn't even rover tracks

the problem is there are a few dozen to few hundred of these dilemmas

so you either believe a lie or you don't believe anything

is what i get from it

[wicked hollow]

https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/Chandrayaan-1s-images-debunk-conspiracy-theories-ISRO-scientist/article16878668.ece shows that the Indian space agency took photos of the Apollo 15 landing site just a few years back that included rover tracks.

[crisp cedar]

ahh appreciate the effort , but that article is bad

[wicked hollow]

lol

[crisp cedar]

saying the ground is just dark

you wouldn't be able to see the feet if that were the case

the important part being you see foot print but no car prints

go walk in mud and drive in mud best believe you'll see both everywhere

[wicked hollow]

you do see the car prints. I showed a picture with them.

[mental idol]

the important part being you see foot print but no car prints
except for the tire prints... of course.

[crisp cedar]

if that image

is what you're talking about i'm sorry it's god awful

[radiant socket]

this actually is a novel new strategy

if you only use the evidence you like, you can prove anything

[crisp cedar]

true, but mine are pictures

with clear evidence

that looks like i took it on a razor first of all

[radiant socket]

6 is prime, it's only divisible by 1 and 6

[crisp cedar]

second of all again not just rover tracks

[jovial island]

• Person who hasn't linked anything

[crisp cedar]

why does water stick to a ball spinning hundreds of thousand miles

[radiant socket]

the water is taped to the earth

[wicked hollow]

lol

[crisp cedar]

i'm asking the questions everyone is already or should be asking

this is nothign new

[mental idol]

Oh hun, are we going to need to talk about gravity now?

[crisp cedar]

see

weird right

get a basketball on a rainy day and spin it

you will be soaked

😄

[unreal sigil]

A basketball doesn’t produce a very strong gravitational field

[radiant socket]

right, spin it 360 degrees / day

[wicked hollow]

Depends how massive it is.

[crisp cedar]

o

[crisp cedar]

this is good point

i thought it was much faster

[unreal sigil]

You got a big basketball lying around somewhere? 👀

[radiant socket]

yeah, your mom

[wicked hollow]

just a real dense one

[wicked hollow]

lolwut

Please don't use ableist language like this here.

[daring jay]

what do you think jupiter is? looks pretty orange to me.

[crisp cedar]

i literally am

[unreal sigil]

Must be made of something pretty dense 👀, basketball forged from the core of a neutron star

[radiant socket]

yes the linear velocity is relatively fast for a human, but the angular velocity is very slow

[crisp cedar]

is density the important part

[radiant socket]

no, mass

[crisp cedar]

get a bowling ball probably the same

[daring jay]

mass

[wicked hollow]

for gravity, mass matters. But density lets you pack more mass in a smaller space.

[crisp cedar]

well no gravity in space

remember?

[daring jay]

but you can't exactly play with a basketball with the volume of jupiter

[crisp cedar]

our ruled dont apply

[mental idol]

Probably just one of those pesky little math equations that don't make sense.

[radiant socket]

watch me

[wicked hollow]

gravity is the reason that there is space. It's what makes things orbit other things.

[hidden kernel]

i think technically jupiter would be playing basketball with you

[crisp cedar]

dont trip me out

i think its dab time

[radiant socket]

nah, i'm built different

[daring jay]

inb4 psvm is just zeus

[crisp cedar]

well either way lot doesnt add up

go youtube the people who went to the moon

couple admitting

couple getting so butthurt at even questions

[fluid haven]

According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly.
Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground.
The bee, of course, flies anyways.
Because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.
But with gravity instead

[crisp cedar]

hm

[mental idol]

Thank you for this. I needed a smile and couldn't find it fast enough.

[crisp cedar]

i thought bees flapping was op

they fly from lift basically

[radiant socket]

isn't that how everything flies

[crisp cedar]

yes

[mental idol]

lift from what? There is no gravity in space according to prior statements?

[crisp cedar]

i was talking about bees

[mental idol]

So am I.

We're in space... right?

[crisp cedar]

so a bee in space?

oh shit

[radiant socket]

smh preocts, space is outside the glass dome, and bees are inside

[crisp cedar]

were in space guys

[daring jay]

duh

[crisp cedar]

its a water dome get it right

or at least thats what your beloved bible says

😉

[daring jay]

we inhabit the space time continuum duh

[radiant socket]

that's where you're wrong. glass and water are one and the same. look up "glass is a liquid"

[crisp cedar]

when you heat it?

[radiant socket]

nope, when it's room temp

[crisp cedar]

well everything is

in that sense

lolll

the structure of everything is crystalline

[daring jay]

this conversation has some many .randomcases just waiting to be summoned

[radiant socket]

no, not really

[crisp cedar]

yes really

[radiant socket]

even if you were to restrict it to "solids", it's still not true

[crisp cedar]

it is true...

[radiant socket]

glass is non-crystalline

[wicked hollow]

Buzz Aldrin has literally punched someone in the face for spouting conspiracy theories at him after he risked his life in the moon landing.

[crisp cedar]

All metallic elements (except Cs, Ga, and Hg) are crystalline solids at room temperature. Like ionic solids, metals and alloys have a very strong tendency to crystallize, whether they are made by thermal processing or by other techniques such as solution reduction or electroplating.Jun 8, 2021

every day and second is a learning opportunity

if you want it to be 😄

[daring jay]

"except" is not "everything"

[crisp cedar]

how is glass liquid

[radiant socket]

that part was a joke

[wicked hollow]

yes, but maybe stop learning from conspiracy theory youtube videos.

[crisp cedar]

and i'm still right but I can't explain without breaking my ndas

🙂

if that helps anyone

[jovial island]

The real conspiracy

[mental idol]

nda?

[crisp cedar]

😛

[radiant socket]

non disclosure agreement

[fluid haven]

how is that supposed to help anyone? I'm still right but I can't tell you

[crisp cedar]

i dont know much more than you guys

dont worry

[radiant socket]

or, national dadsketball association

[crisp cedar]

because i literally don't know

I'm surprised anybody rebounded anything as this is mostly new knowledge for me

🙂

[mental idol]

I was actually more worried about pushing you to know more.

[crisp cedar]

i'm either too high or lacking thc to understand

[wicked hollow]

Everything you've been saying is the opposite of knowledge, for what it's worth.

[crisp cedar]

basically when i was 17 i had deep depression still do

in these moments i didn't undertsnad but this is where character can be built

[mental idol]

You have plenty of attacks, and plenty of excuses. I hope, someday, you have knowledge.

[crisp cedar]

basically make or break it

[wicked hollow]

the viewpoints you've espoused for this entire conversation are all easily debunked by gaining knowledge.

[crisp cedar]

no attacks here

i'd say defence

[crisp cedar]

you tried with the moon thing you can't deny it's weird

[wicked hollow]

I absolutely can.

[crisp cedar]

crypto im right

sorry

[wicked hollow]

Retroreflectors are extremely clear proof that man has landed on the moon.

[crisp cedar]

i love being wrong

[wicked hollow]

You're great at it!

[radiant socket]

😩

[crisp cedar]

if the moon is fake

what are the odds whatever on it is

why havent we gone in 60 years

[radiant socket]

didn't you say that you haven't taken an econ class?

[crisp cedar]

are these not good questions

[radiant socket]

there's nothing useful on it

[crisp cedar]

not a good enoug hone apparently

[wicked hollow]

they are not.

[crisp cedar]

ahahaha

[jovial island]

I think a problem with this type of reasoning is that, well, a statement isn't true just because that statement can't be proven false

[crisp cedar]

i'm not saying what i said about the moon was true

[mental idol]

There is a thin line between willful ignorance and philosophy.

[crisp cedar]

i was raising popular questions

[wicked hollow]

The only reason we went in the first place was to prove that we could. There's no longer much scientific value to landing humans on the moon; there's nothing we need to do there that we can't make robots do for us.

[crisp cedar]

big misunderstanding, I don't take peoples word for everything

[wicked hollow]

outside of conspiracy theory circles, these questions are not popular.

[radiant socket]

except google and government documents, apparently

[crisp cedar]

conspiracy theory

[wicked hollow]

Most people learned enough in high school science classes to know the answers to the questions you're raising.

[crisp cedar]

interesting word isn't it

what is a fact do you know?

[crisp cedar]

and you still can't answer them what does that say about you?

[wicked hollow]

if one side of an issue has 99% of all scientists, and the other side has you, you're probably not correct.

[crisp cedar]

ahahah

how many vaccs and boosters shots did you get

is what that sounds like to me

[radiant socket]

we did answer them though, you just didn't like the answers

[crisp cedar]

i got a couple shit article and was grateful for them

[mental idol]

There it is.

[wicked hollow]

Which one couldn't I answer? I answered how we know we've landed on the moon, and why the flag was "waving" (crumpled), and why there aren't rover tracks (there are), and why water doesn't spin off the earth.

[crisp cedar]

rover tracks not explained others yes possibly , but list goes on

[jovial island]

Yup, we reached the vaccine stage

[crisp cedar]

not to mention this isn't just about the moon

but vaccine there is no conspiracy there

you are just very misinformed

[wicked hollow]

about what?

[gilded herald]

what do you beleive about the vaccines?

[crisp cedar]

if you believe the vaccine does any good for you

I believe it contains the same shit i mentioned above

which you all will discard

[radiant socket]

there's a reason smallpox and polio are not problems anymore

[crisp cedar]

because you don't like the answer

or dont have the neurons to understand

[jovial island]

(Casually mentions I'm better than you)

[crisp cedar]

whats the reason for no covid anymore?!

[wicked hollow]

It drastically reduces the risk of serious illness or death. You don't need to look at anything more than covid death statistics to know that - >90% of all deaths in recent months have been among the unvaxed

[crisp cedar]

not getting the vaccine doesnt make me better

it increases my odds of surviving scams

lol

[radiant socket]

we can look at stats if you want. you don't need to be a statistician to see that the vaccine works

actually there's an xkcd for this

[crisp cedar]

look at vaccines gone bad

[jovial island]

Not really what I meant

[crisp cedar]

bet yall never seen that on your news

[radiant socket]

https://xkcd.com/2400/

xkcd: Statistics

We reject the null hypothesis based on the 'hot damn, check out this chart' test.

[fluid haven]

What? covid is still very much around.

[crisp cedar]

yes...

but since war and last year

everyone is in public like nothing

proving that its nothing like back then that we need a vaccine for

not to mention the SCIENCE which is what you guys want right? said you get covid more with the vacc

also shed spike proteins

bad stuff guys

[radiant socket]

look at those charts 😍

[crisp cedar]

nice fake chart LOL

[radiant socket]

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm

[wicked hollow]

"shed spike proteins" is nonsense, for what it's worth. You're using the sciency words, but you're using them wrong.

[wicked hollow]

Have another: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status?country=~All+ages

[crisp cedar]

so in august we had 200,000 deaths

and now we dont

LOL what

government doesnt understand exponential growth

this is science 6th grade

[radiant socket]

and another

[crisp cedar]

very poor attempt to get people to shoot up

[mental idol]

Which, you have self-admitted to not understanding as well

[jovial island]

There's something to be said about truth, shoes, and circles here

[crisp cedar]

and if thats not bad enough you get this free 5 star vacation for getting a shot!!

[gilded herald]

what does this have to do with the effectiveness of vaccines 🤔

[crisp cedar]

go ahead guys go get it

[radiant socket]

https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2022/01/27/infographics-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-death-risk-differences-are-startling/

[crisp cedar]

if covid is really what they say unvaccinated should exponentially grow

that chart shows unvacc had 200k deaths

now we are down

how does that work

it doesnt guys

[wicked hollow]

you've got a basic misunderstanding of how diseases spread, it seems.

[crisp cedar]

oh also car accidents and heart attacks? what do you tihnk those are listed as ahaha

[crisp cedar]

no you do

as with everything else..

[wicked hollow]

lol

aight.

[crisp cedar]

disease is exponential

very simple

that chart is not

[wicked hollow]

sure, that's why everyone always has the cold and always has.

[crisp cedar]

but it doesnt get worse

and kill us all

or it already would have

[wicked hollow]

I've never not had a cold, because my ancestors caught the cold, and it spread exponentially.

now, at all times, I have a cold, because that's how diseases and exponential growth work. Right?

[crisp cedar]

well no

[jovial island]

I feel like this conversation is now just repeating itself

[crisp cedar]

is the same as covid

[wicked hollow]

or is it possible that, sometimes, people get sick and don't spread the disease to others?

[crisp cedar]

thats the biggest catch

you guys thing its a crazy disease when its like a cold/flue

[mental idol]

Well, roughly guessing population growth versus disease growth and vectors... you'd have hundreds of colds right now.

maybe thousands.

[wicked hollow]

heh, true enough

[crisp cedar]

most of those stats are fake

so when you think you're getting the inside scoop you're seeing bullshit

especially if its a government site

thats the level that we are on, hard to understand but thats how it works

[fluid haven]

It's kllled a lot more people than a regular flu/cold.

[mental idol]

Didn't you want proof from a government site earlier?

[crisp cedar]

especially when we are talking about something that fooled billions, during election time, and is now replaced with war

[crisp cedar]

yes i want to see their bullshit

keep trying to prove an pointless proof

[ionic flax]

Are you a troll or a skid

[jovial island]

I would like to bring up that has:link from:Evo#2642 has no results

[crisp cedar]

neither

[mental idol]

So you don't want proof, you want something to point at and say "fake"? Really trying to understand you here.

[ionic flax]

U sure

[wicked hollow]

Alright, let's be unequivocal here: I will not allow you to spread antivax conspiracy theories on this server.

[crisp cedar]

lack of proof , there was somethign missing from the picture

[wicked hollow]

If this conversation continues, you will be removed from the server.

[crisp cedar]

ahaha okay bud

ill remove myself how about that

im not learning anything here

[radiant socket]

😩

[mental idol]

That's a shame. I feel godly was genuinely trying to teach you.

[ionic flax]

/ban

[wicked hollow]

I genuinely was, but I won't allow this server to be used for spreading misinformation.

[crisp cedar]

well with the controversial stuff i talk about i see thats not possible

especially considering this is real stuf and effects all of our and our loved ones life

if i'm right how many of you will regret today

[wicked hollow]

you're not right. I hope you don't lose someone you love due to talking them out of a vaccine.

[ionic flax]

None cz ur fucking wrong

[fluid haven]

The fact that this is real stuff and effects all of our lives is what makes the spreading of misinformation so harmful.

[crisp cedar]

and i know you think you're the majority there are just as many people asking questions , as being fed answers

[crisp cedar]

yes, but what makes it misinfo

half the shit you learned in school is a lie

but this one aint right?

lololol see the logic

[wicked hollow]

No?

[ionic flax]

Can u just mute or ban this antivaxer

[wicked hollow]

maybe history class, heh.

[mental idol]

mostly history class :(

[crisp cedar]

i dont have to prove points

because my words are statements

[wicked hollow]

alright. Let's drop it now, please.

[ionic flax]

Ok

[crisp cedar]

why do they have such huge lawsuits

why that

[wicked hollow]

And we're dropping it...

[crisp cedar]

billions... $

sued

[ionic flax]

Ban him

[mental idol]

History is written by the victors. Took me a good 30 years to truly appreciate what that means.

[radiant socket]

and my java class 🥴

[wicked hollow]

indeed, history class is mostly propaganda...

[crisp cedar]

but just history class..

nothing else

😉

[ionic flax]

Should we ban Evo

[wicked hollow]

!tempban 14d 705394862354333706 spreading anti-vax misinformation

!tempban 705394862354333706 14d spreading anti-vax misinformation

[clever salmon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @crisp cedar until <t:1647813813:f> (13 days and 23 hours).

[ionic flax]

Thanks

[wicked hollow]

I'm the moderator. Not you. Don't do this in the future.

[ionic flax]

Ok

[mental idol]

If anything, the more I learned about that phrase of history the more interested in history I've become.

[jovial island]

I feel like I justified my dislike of Evo's opinions back there

[mental idol]

Ah, if only past-me could see me today. How they were deny it.

[ionic flax]

Why antivax people exists
And where they learn all the false claims

[mental idol]

It's a cautionary tale in general. "Search for something, and you will find it."

[jovial island]

Which kinda sounds like confirmation bias, as I've said earlier

[mental idol]

It's mindful to know it applies to all sides of the coin, as it were.

[jovial island]

Yeah

[mental idol]

Asking questions is almost always a good thing. Asking the right questions is a skill. Listening to the answers is a challenge. Defining your own wisdom from the results is the goal.

Nah... I don't like that last sentence.

Finding the next question to ask is the goal.

[wicked hollow]

you can find support for virtually any claim. The trick is applying critical thinking to determine whether that supporter is likely to be correct or not. Conspiracy theorists think they're doing this - they believe they've discovered something that no one else knows, and no one else is thinking critically, and are just being spoonfed misinformation by teachers and scientists and other experts.

[ionic flax]

Why can't we have public audit logs or mod logs

[radiant socket]

we don't want public shaming

[wicked hollow]

Which is what makes conspiracy theories so insidious - it's quite easy to fall down a rabbit hole, as we've seen over the last few years with QAnon, whose beliefs have rapidly gone from wrong within normal parameters to wrong in ways that are way, way out of step with reality

[mental idol]

Seems like it would just be used to hunt or haunt.

[wicked hollow]

for public audit logs, when we delete something it's because we don't want it on the server. I can't imagine what the point of a channel full of nazi shit and hate speech and scams would be 😄

[ionic flax]

Only for kicks and ban lol

[wicked hollow]

what would the advantage of making that information consistently public be?

[ionic flax]

To prevent people to get banned from doing what the banned people did

[wicked hollow]

they only need to read the rules and code of conduct for that.

[fluid haven]

We have a channel for that.

#rules

[ionic flax]

If Evo came back and did the same thing will it be a perm ban for him

[jovial island]

I mean, probably

[wicked hollow]

it might be, it might not. Depends on the circumstances.

It wouldn't be reasonable to commit to any particular moderation action before considering the circumstances in which the bad behavior occurred.

that said, punishments for repeat offenses tend to escalate.

[daring jay]

ikr. and it's not just flat out lies, it's much more nuanced then that.

[wicked hollow]

yeah. You don't need to look much further than the battles currently being fought about what schools are allowed to teach, and what they're not...

[daring jay]

I know one of my textbooks once had a whole section on "free black people" in a time where there was so little of that

It was really just an attempt at emphasizing what little "not completely shit (although still shit)" stuff there was

[wicked hollow]

US history books tend to give barely any mention to all the broken treaties with Native Americans.

[daring jay]

education about history in the US fucking sucks

my go-to example is thanksgiving

I, until last year, thought it really was "oh, these two groups were best friends and got together and had a party. yay!"

[wicked hollow]

heh. Heh, heh. Oh.

[daring jay]

I couldn't tell you that, because I haven't taken US history yet. But I assume very little.

I'm sure most of that course will be about wars waged on the US.

[wicked hollow]

next to none. I remember a little bit about Hawaii becoming a state, but nothing about the period of occupation leading up to that. I don't remember ever being taught anything much about, say, Guam or the US Virgin Islands

[ionic flax]

Wait routers use a Linux is?????

[wicked hollow]

yeah, almost all of them.

Actually, almost everything except consumer laptops and desktops (and iPhones) uses Linux.

[ionic flax]

Android is also Linux
But with lots of java favoried abstraction

[wicked hollow]

Yeah, it's a Linux kernel under the hood. So is Chrome OS.

[ionic flax]

Let me see if I can ssh into my router

[wicked hollow]

you can often load custom firmware that lets you do it, if your stock firmware doesn't have an option to enable it.

it might very well just be an option you can enable in the router's config, though.

[wicked hollow]

My favorite example is the Tulsa massacre. I learned about that shit in my mid 30s; I don't think that was ever taught in a history class.

[daring jay]

never heard of it

[wicked hollow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

[ionic flax]

Ssh fails
Telnet works

But what command I can run

[wicked hollow]

that might not be a shell - but if it is, ls would work.

[ionic flax]

Command not found: ls

[wicked hollow]

how about "help"? Seems like it's probably a custom thing of some sort.

[ionic flax]

So @wicked hollow it's custom?

[wicked hollow]

yeah, that doesn't seem like a regular shell.

[ionic flax]

Erm 101

What is the 101

Zero ports open on that device

[spiral ember]

192.168.0.101?

That's just its internal ip

assuming its 255.255.255.0 subnet 101 would be the host address

[jovial island]

guys

can you teach me about how the internet works.. I only have a vague understanding

[spiral ember]

That's a very complex topic

[jovial island]

and I keep forgetting stuff like routers and switches.. firewalls.. subnets.. websockets

I just need the simplified explanation

[spiral ember]

I'm taking a pretty advanced networking class that deals with it and even I feel like i'm only scraping the surface

[spiral ember]

I mean it's so complex one can only simplify it so much

[jovial island]

like.. let's say I have a laptop.. the laptop has a NIC card, the NIC has a MAC that identifies the device on a local network

[spiral ember]

Right

[jovial island]

the laptop is connected by physical medium.. ethernet.. to the nearest wifi router

[spiral ember]

well a MAC is unique for every device

[jovial island]

the router remembers MACs of all local devices connected..

[spiral ember]

not just on a local network

[jovial island]

the router is connected to the ISP which assigns it an address

[spiral ember]

in the ARP table yes

[jovial island]

then the laptop communicates through the router to the internet..

[spiral ember]

That's correct

[jovial island]

there's applications like the browser that use specific protocols.. like http to talk over the internet and ping specific websites

because everything on the internet has IPs

[spiral ember]

So far so good

[jovial island]

there's things called firewalls that block certain traffic and allow specific traffic

that's everything I know

[spiral ember]

Well that's a pretty overall explanation of it

You seem like you have it down, what are you confused on?

[jovial island]

I still dont know this

what is a subnet.. what are web sockets

[spiral ember]

I can tell you about routers switches and subnets, we just finished that unit

[jovial island]

ok

[spiral ember]

Subnets specify which part of an ipv4 is network & which is host

Take the 192.168.1.90 255.255.255.0 for example

192.168.1.0 is the network, .90 is the network

We call that a class C IP

Then you can have one like 172.16.1.90 255.255.0.0

Which is a class B IP

172.16.0.0 is the network, 1.90 is the host

You get the point

But you can also have subnets like 192.168.1.128, which is a bit more complex but says the first 3 octets and the first bit in the 4th octet are network identifiers

More or less follows a pattern from there on out

[jovial island]

you say octet.. octet is like 8?

[spiral ember]

Yes, 8 bits

[jovial island]

so x.x.x.x where each x is 8 bits?

[spiral ember]

exactly like so

So 255.255.255.128 would be
11111111 11111111 11111111 10000000

See how the first 3 octets are network, and the first bit in the 4th octet is network?

[jovial island]

network.. you repeated twice

[spiral ember]

Network I mean, like, 192.168.1.0 would be a network

[jovial island]

ok

what's a host

[spiral ember]

If you have 192.168.1.0/24 with a 255.255.255.128 subnet, you can have 2 networks

• 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.128
• 192.168.1.128 255.255.255.128

You split one network (192.168.1.0/24) into 2 networks basically

[spiral ember]

Just a non-network device, computers, laptops, printers, servers, etc

[jovial island]

what is a non network device..

these can all be connected to the network though?

[spiral ember]

Routers, switches, hubs, repeaters

[spiral ember]

Correct

[jovial island]

so routers switches hubs and repeaters are network devices?

and computers etc are networked devices?

[spiral ember]

And a few others I can't think off the top of my head

[jovial island]

why do we call these as hosts

[spiral ember]

Good question, I guess since they can actually "host" things like applications

network switches cannot

[jovial island]

ahhh

[spiral ember]

They're very small devices and are limited in what they can do

[jovial island]

makes sense.. that I can remember

[spiral ember]

A computer, you can use to surf the web, play games, code in

but a network switch? it only sends and recieves data

you can't really use it for anything else

These days many home network routers will have switches built into them, or they won't at all and just have a wireless access point

[jovial island]

so subnets are for splitting large networks by splitting an IP somehow

[spiral ember]

Yeah, splitting a base IP into many tiny ones

[jovial island]

ok and a port is like one IP can have multiple ports.. each range of ports can have different kinds of traffic through them

[spiral ember]

192.168.1.0/24, if you split it using the subnet 255.255.255.192, you have 4 subnets:

• 192.168.1.0/26
• 192.168.1.64/26
• 192.168.1.128/26
• 192.168.1.192/26

Those are just the network addresses btw

you can't assign them to any devices

[jovial island]

ok?

[spiral ember]

The router's interface (default gateway) will usually be the first usable IP

• 192.168.1.1/26
• 192.168.1.65/26
• 192.168.1.129/26
• 192.168.1.193/26

[jovial island]

is a port like a physical thing

[spiral ember]

The last IP of each subnet would be

• 192.168.1.62/26
• 192.168.1.126/26
• 192.168.1.1290/26
• 192.168.1.254/26

[spiral ember]

It can be

On switches, routers they will be

i.e G0/0/0, G0/0/1, S0/0/0

[jovial island]

but when we say things like 443 and port 80 what are they

[spiral ember]

Those are on hosts they don't have a "physical" port

443 is for HTTPS, 80 is for HTTP

they just say what that packet is for

[jovial island]

what does http over websocket mean

[spiral ember]

Websockets and HTTP are different, protocols you can say

websocket is like a phone call where HTTP is like text messaging

[jovial island]

I know http is over browser

but what is websocket

[spiral ember]

yep

websocket is usually used in things like video games where data has to be live

actually discord uses websockets

you and me talking right now, we're sending data to the discord gateway we're both connected to

[jovial island]

I can see a browser.. I can see a url has http on it.. it's hard for me to visualize websockets

[spiral ember]

Yeah i can understand that, you can't really visualize them

There is a websocket library in python if you wanna mess with it to help you understand

or you can write your own discord wrapper in python to help you understand

[jovial island]

ok.. I know the requests library is for making requests to websites

what can the websockets library be used for

[spiral ember]

in browser, a link will be like http://localhost:3000, but a websocket can be like ws://localhost:3000

[spiral ember]

chat apps, video game clients, screen sharing, voip, video calling, etc

[jovial island]

like even zoom?

and Teams?

[spiral ember]

most likely

becuase you don't want to send 4000 requests every second

[jovial island]

so is websockets like a persistent connection

[spiral ember]

its better to do it over a live websocket connection

[jovial island]

instead of ping and receive?

[spiral ember]

exactly, persistent and live

[jovial island]

ahh ok

makes sense

[spiral ember]

think of it like a phone call

you can talk to them and they will talk to you back almost instantly

a text message, you send a message and wait for them to talk to you back, then they wait for you back, etc would be HTTP

[jovial island]

got it..

like phone calls vs walkie talkies

[spiral ember]

exactly

[jovial island]

full duplex vs half duplex

[spiral ember]

Different apps will need to use different protocols

websockets are full duplex yes

Hard to tell with HTTP since there's no persistent connectino

I guess you could in theory both client and server send a request to each other the same exact time

[jovial island]

thank you

I understand now

can you tell me a little bit about tcp ip

[spiral ember]

Awesome, glad to know my classes in school came in useful for once 😓

[jovial island]

and browser

[spiral ember]

TCP/IP is a protocol stack, it's like OSI layer model but a bit more simple

[jovial island]

I know IP is like an address.. and the browser can each those addresses through the other network layers

[spiral ember]

It just describes what goes on in each layer

[jovial island]

how do I think of tcp

[spiral ember]

You got from all the way up to lowest level

Lowest level is like, bits and bytes on your ethernet cable

[jovial island]

ok but we also have IP addresses that are like x.x.x.x

is there an equivalent for tcp

[spiral ember]

IP is part of TCP

so not really

[jovial island]

I understand TCP is for file transfer.. like FTP?

or do I understand TCP is the protocol standard for data delivery

[spiral ember]

TCP is not really for file transfer

It's just one protocol out of many

FTP, SSH, IMAP, POP3, etc

[jovial island]

got it

what is udp

[spiral ember]

Similar to TCP, but tcp sends something, then makes sure it got there

like "hey did you get what I sent you"

waits for server to respond

if server says yes, then moves on

if no, send it again

UDP on the other hand

sends something, doesn't wait for server, doesn't care, sends next thing

[jovial island]

how is udp different from websockets

[spiral ember]

UDP is not a persistent connection

[jovial island]

where is it used

[spiral ember]

UDP can be used in things such as voice or video calls where if one frame didn't get there it doesn't matter

TCP is used in things like online transactions

where its important everything gets there safe and sound

[jovial island]

got it.. thanks again!

[spiral ember]

Np, feel free to ping me and ask if you're confused on it

[lofty loom]

Is Lemon made out of beard

[jade bolt]

@lofty loom seems like so

[viscid hatch]

slava rossiya

[hollow heart]

yes

[dusky cliff]

without a doubt

[remote widget]

Wait what

[jovial island]

I need a mod

where are the mods

[remote widget]

In their homes :D

[vague shadow]

they're just a DM to @vapid maple away

[jovial island]

are you a mod

[dusky cliff]

he is

[slate leaf]

They seem to be:

[jovial island]

seems sus

btw what do you guys think of calculating elapsed time of a program within if __name__

hello guys

do you have any recommendations for free data structure and algorithm courses online (preferably in python). I cannot find anything reasonable that is free

go to educative, sign up for trial

use it and repeat

till you get a job and can pay for a subscription

[jovial island]

okay thanks

[zealous hazel]

if you have never made a youtube account, you have my respect and advice to never do so, its a neverending spiral

[jovial island]

Check out rumble

[zealous hazel]

whats rumble

[steel eagle]

A light shaking

[zealous hazel]

right

[rare juniper]

yo

3:34

[storm birch]

I have accidentally open sourced a few tokens and at least one secret key before 😔

[remote widget]

[radiant socket]

ooh, this was about twitch

i was there

[remote widget]

@lyric token if your reasoning is true, then I won't have been here since Hunter won't have ever been returned

But I'm here, soooo 👀

[lyric token]

No hunter!

[remote widget]

Hahaha

[remote widget]

Down with Hunter, huh

But yea, Hunter is indeed no one 👀

[jovial island]

you are someone?

[remote widget]

A mere figment of my imagination

[remote widget]

No one irl 👀

[jovial island]

youre a method that returns None

[lyric token]

Who are you then?

[remote widget]

Idk gotta ask my parents

[jovial island]

teach me how to make cringe jokes 😔

[remote widget]

Lmao

[jovial island]

you already do

[remote widget]

🤣

[lyric token]

First time i give them false. And, false == None

[remote widget]

Ig the ability comes automatically

[lyric token]

Where?

[remote widget]

B-b-b-b-but I am using ===

[remote widget]

What

[jovial island]

true

my replies ahh

[jovial island]

no

[remote widget]

Imagine not having a good internet

[jovial island]

None is False but its not the same thing

[trim surge]

I'm just here watching this unfold 🍿

[lyric token]

Yeah, this operator is invented by me! It means if equal then assign it.

[remote widget]

Watch how Hunter becomes a mere figment of imagination from a real person!

[jovial island]

me rn: :=

[lyric token]

(Your.no).make_yes()

[remote widget]

No! It's an operator in JS. Like seriously

[lyric token]

But not in py

[remote widget]

I'm using Pythonscript

:D

[jovial island]

[lyric token]

There is nothing like that.

[remote widget]

AYO dont burn the panda

[remote widget]

It's once again, a mere figment of my imagination!

[jovial island]

cpp.py.rb

[lyric token]

I love the panda's framework. It's used in my many projects just save it!

[remote widget]

Tbh I won't be surprised if someone decides to smash his/her head against a wall after reading this chat 👀

[jovial island]

never used panda lol

[lyric token]

And that was my imagination!

[lyric token]

Why?

[remote widget]

U can run a python file suffixed with js with Python interpreter as long as it has Python code written

[jovial island]

dont need it or work with it lol

[lyric token]

In your dreams only!

[jovial island]

[remote widget]

No I have made it a reality!

[lyric token]

I need it!

[trim surge]

how evil would I be if I create a nitro embed like this and once they press it, it will open discord://-/reset

[remote widget]

Totally didn't package it with JS modules

[remote widget]

What's that link?

The <discord> one

[lyric token]

Your fake reality!

[remote widget]

No!

[trim surge]

it opens the reset password page in discord

[lyric token]

Do that in front of me now!

[remote widget]

No!

[trim surge]

but you can't go back unless you restart the app

[jovial island]

do it

[remote widget]

Did it in dreams tho

[lyric token]

So you are lying!

[remote widget]

^^^

[lyric token]

😴

😖

😲

🤤

[remote widget]

Hahaha

[lyric token]

😧

[jovial island]

[remote widget]

Stop with the emojis

[lyric token]

Shut up!

[trim surge]

should I dm it to random people 😼

[remote widget]

Ayo Joe, don't peek

[jovial island]

sure

[jovial island]

[lyric token]

... This sticker comes itself. Really!

[remote widget]

This sticker tho 🤣

[jovial island]

lmao

[remote widget]

DeathTrap

Why u lurking here

[trim surge]

why not

[lyric token]

🤓

[trim surge]

the edits tho 💀

[lyric token]

😨

[remote widget]

Don't u have integration to study?

[lyric token]

😎

[remote widget]

I have my own reasons

[jovial island]

[lyric token]

Saying to me?

[remote widget]

No

DT

[lyric token]

😷

😀

[trim surge]

@remote widget does @lyric token always spam emojis?

[lyric token]

😃

[remote widget]

Idk it's the first time we talking

[lyric token]

Sorry!

[remote widget]

🫂

[lyric token]

I think enough. You did!

[remote widget]

Wym

[lyric token]

Wym? Means?

[jovial island]

[trim surge]

🍿

[remote widget]

What you mean

[lyric token]

This is not a cinema hall!

[jovial island]

[remote widget]

He's fond of eating

[lyric token]

Stop selling it!

[remote widget]

This isn't a WWE ring

[lyric token]

So you want to fight! Lets start!

[jovial island]

[remote widget]

This isn't yr bed

[jovial island]

[trim surge]

the amount of exclamation marks @lyric token used in the past minute is scary

[jovial island]

[lyric token]

Dichung 👊

[jovial island]

🚓

[lyric token]

I dont understand!

[trim surge]

I know!

[lyric token]

[lyric token]

Dichung dichung! 👊👊👊🤛🤛

[jovial island]

!e

print("!".join(a for a in "what is happening"))

[clever salmon]

@jovial island :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

w!h!a!t! !i!s! !h!a!p!p!e!n!i!n!g

[lyric token]

Fight!

[jovial island]

i i’ve pp

[jovial island]

!e

print(__import__("random").choice([True, False]))

[clever salmon]

@jovial island :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

False

[jovial island]

[jovial island]

you can use ints so it returns booleans as well

[remote widget]

Ok kid

[trim surge]

the late reply 💀

[jovial island]

yes bro

[remote widget]

Was bored

[civic flax]

👥

[remote widget]

Lmao

[trim surge]

!e import random

[clever salmon]

@trim surge :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[trim surge]

yes

[harsh nova]

hi guys

[remote widget]

Hi

[lofty loom]

https://twitter.com/SonNoodles2/status/1500917704328310786?s=20&t=sFfWP4Gu0AyZlP5d2TCAbw

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Goku vs. the 1 millionth Spongebob

[jovial island]

lame