ot2-the-original-pubsta

[swift vigil]

uh

art

or whatever

[hollow heart]

so what is a manifest, exactly

i bet @restive remnant does similar things

[restive remnant]

Hi

What're we looking at?

[swift vigil]

idk

[hollow heart]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/puqafoweje.py by moth

says they're a complete beginner and totally lost with python

(i don't believe them 😂)

[swift vigil]

I DIDNT SAY TOTALLY LOST

[hollow heart]

o lol

lmao

[swift vigil]

i legit just said, cant understand yall or smthg bc speaking bout stuff i never heard b4

[hollow heart]

so is a manifest a document that shows all pending orders?

[swift vigil]

no, its for ones that have been shipped

and theres the tracking number you give to the courier as a history or smthg

[snow reef]

I have to rewire my brain to comprehend half the stuff about computers...

[swift vigil]

my brain was never wired, so im happy

shenanigans sure is typing for awhile

[hollow heart]

i think i've seen him work on integrations w/ fedex or similar

[hollow heart]

do you prefer getting a word file out of it?

not pdf?

[restive remnant]

A "manifest" is like a "packing slip" or a "commercial invoice"
They all have mostly the same "official definition", but they vary in the specific details they show

They're generally included in the box, and show the order number, tracking number, etc, and itemize the items in the shipment

[ember oar]

Yeah when I first joined this server I got really overwhelmed by all the fancy stuff they were talking about lmao, half my knowledge is from this server and this server is a great place

[snow reef]

I wonder what it's like for people who grew up with coding

[swift vigil]

yeah, easy to modify it later

and been mainly making word file since months so kept it

[ember oar]

I'm probably one of those people, it's talked about a lot from a young age

[swift vigil]

geniuses

[ember oar]

Some people try to push coding onto others at young ages (like 6 and 7) and I'm not a fan of them

Let people do what they want to do

[swift vigil]

Ic

[real forum]

Wait really?

I consider myself rather young but I was never pressured into it, especially not that young

[swift vigil]

how old

[snow reef]

I think I read somewhere that the language itself can have implications on culture. If you're learning a computer language, it would make sense that it could impact how you view the world and communicate, esp if it was early in your development.

[ember oar]

It might also be by cultures, in my culture being a doctor/engineer is pushed all too often

[swift vigil]

sounds pretty asian to me

i am asian

[restive remnant]

Yep
Sorry - just making sure - am I supposed to helping with something? I didn't see a question

[swift vigil]

no, person just mentioned you

[hollow heart]

nono lol just thought you might be interested

[snow reef]

I'm really conflicted about pushing people into an action... sometimes, you really gotta push but self-determination is so important to me.

[swift vigil]

this is interesting

i apparently already have a github acc

but i cant change the password

'forgot password'

i mean

[real forum]

You probably need to verify the email

[swift vigil]

cant find it in my inbox

searched github

[snow reef]

was it set up with a different email?

[swift vigil]

how weird, it says already taken but when i press the button again it worked

lmfao

[swift vigil]

idk works now

[snow reef]

My most disliked "fix" is retrying or "turning it off and back on again".

but least it worked.

[swift vigil]

lmao

[snow reef]

If it can't be extrapolated out for any problem, it's a bad fix.

Patient: "My arm hurts"
Doc: "Let me shutdown your brain for a minute..."

(but I do like bed-rest as a fix for body aliments)

[ornate scroll]

joe is the only cake

[runic veldt]

Oh helloo

[winged sequoia]

@runic veldt --> But that’s what international students applying to Ivy League gets tested
no, not anymore. many UC's, and other private schools removed it

[tawdry ibex]

in america yall seem to have it so confusing

[winged sequoia]

what's so confusion about it?

[tawdry ibex]

a lot of examination?

[runic veldt]

I’m gnana be final year of sixth form next year basically ur high school and i am hoping to apply there

[winged sequoia]

well, that's every school sin't it

[runic veldt]

Im ganna have to sit the SATS soon

[tawdry ibex]

here in the UK we have our gcses at the end of y11 and that's the only major examination of high school

[winged sequoia]

I see...from what I've heard (cuz I live in america), SAT isnt required anymore

[winged sequoia]

that's so good compared to America

I think it's similar in India

[radiant socket]

at many schools, SAT is optional. they'll consider if you want to submit, but won't hold it against you if you don't

[runic veldt]

Oh so what’s the requirements now for international students

[runic veldt]

It’s kinda shit though

GCSEs aren’t hard

[daring jay]

especially due to the last 2 years

[winged sequoia]

there is one test that decides what career you go to (know cuz parents)

[winged sequoia]

yeah exactly

[runic veldt]

Then you do a levels which are extremely difficult

[winged sequoia]

mm hmm

[winged sequoia]

oh I see

[runic veldt]

Yh it’s called the JEE

[winged sequoia]

I know that SAT's are removed cuz my brother applied this year, and it wasn't required for him to put in his SAT score

[runic veldt]

There’s only one top Uni in India called IIT right and you have to do JEE to get in

[winged sequoia]

oh ok

[winged sequoia]

oh yeah ofc I know IIT

there are other decent universities tho

[runic veldt]

Yhh there are others but most Indian parents wants their kids to get in there

Life’s depressing

Studying 24/7

[winged sequoia]

you're from India?

[runic veldt]

Almost

[runic veldt]

No but I watch Indian movies 😂

[tawdry ibex]

i am lol

[runic veldt]

And I have couple of relatives in Bangladesh and India

[winged sequoia]

trust me, america is almost like that (a lot of hw), and I have pressure cuz from Indian family

[winged sequoia]

oh lol, you live in India?

or you just from there

[tawdry ibex]

noo the uk

[runic veldt]

You from India ??

[winged sequoia]

oh yeah lol 🤦‍♂️

[runic veldt]

What year are you in

[tawdry ibex]

10 😭

[winged sequoia]

yeah, I moved to America in 2014

[runic veldt]

Oh lol gcses next year lmaooo

Jokes

[winged sequoia]

lived in India for 7 years

[runic veldt]

Oh yh same I moved to Uk in 2013

What do you do now

[tawdry ibex]

yeah i know shits so uncertain tho cuz of covid

[winged sequoia]

I'm in high school (first year)

[winged sequoia]

factssss

[runic veldt]

Not even we didn’t do the exams and that happened 2 years in a row Cus of the boosters they won’t call a lockdown so you’ll do ur exams bro

[winged sequoia]

oh is your school online?

[civic plank]

do u guys prefer online classes > inperson?

[runic veldt]

Nah

Most schools here don’t have tech to do online lessons

[winged sequoia]

well. I don't cheat in tests, so inperson cuz you're with friends

[runic veldt]

😂😅

Only posh schools does

[winged sequoia]

oh lol I see

[civic plank]

online classes are the best, i can learn at my own pace and i dont have to worry about socializing 😄

[runic veldt]

It’s quite messy

As well

[winged sequoia]

wdym own pace?

[tawdry ibex]

yeah I know my sister is taking her mocks next week and it's to the point where they'll count towards her final grade if the real thing doesn't go ahead.

[runic veldt]

Yh Fr it’s much more fun with friends

[winged sequoia]

don't you still have teacher teaching from computer?

[civic plank]

i dont have to keep up with the rapidness of some of my professors

[daring jay]

in person, because I am incapable of learning online

[winged sequoia]

yeah ikr

[runic veldt]

Everytime you do exams you get to talk about the answers it’s quite enjoyable

[winged sequoia]

lmao same. I didn't learn sht in 8th grade (last year when online)

[civic plank]

yup very common reason why people prefer in person classes.

[tawdry ibex]

i find it impossible to focus lol

[civic plank]

i do better online

[winged sequoia]

so many distractions for me

[daring jay]

same

[runic veldt]

Staring at a screen isn’t it

😅

[winged sequoia]

eh, not rlly, I do that all day everyday

[runic veldt]

I get migraines now dk why

[winged sequoia]

it's just way too many distractions online

[tawdry ibex]

not even that- more around you

need to social distance from my phone😭

[civic plank]

in person i worry about asking some stupid question and that'd be in my mind rest of the class 😂

[winged sequoia]

Lol same

Considering I’m an introvert

[civic plank]

same here. i despise group projects. like why tf cant i just work on my own bruh 😭

[winged sequoia]

😮

sameeeeeee

you get some stupid person that does nothing

and you have to do all the work

[civic plank]

truee

[tawdry ibex]

yeah true lol

i try not to be that guy

[winged sequoia]

yeah same

[tawdry ibex]

thing is you'll also sometimes have someone who knows what they're doing n sometimes that can make stuff easier

but no ur right its inconvenient ngl

[winged sequoia]

rarely tho

[tawdry ibex]

hm yeah

how does ur high school system work, do yall choose what to study?

[winged sequoia]

well

kind of

you have certain courses that you have to take

and then you get option for like 1-2

but yeah

some freedom ig

[tawdry ibex]

oh thats cool

yeah

imma head off, it was nice talking!

[winged sequoia]

yeah same

nice talking to you guys!

[civic plank]

👋

[fluid plank]

im so bad enough that my ex left me

[jovial island]

Damn

[radiant socket]

Damn

[real forum]

Damn

[jovial island]

Damn

[jade bolt]

im so bad enough that i left my ex

[runic veldt]

Damn

[winged sequoia]

Damn

[unreal sigil]

Depends what year. The final two years the only compulsory thing is you must do some form of English

Other than that, choose whatever you want

[radiant socket]

wait really, that's awesome

although i probably should be glad my school forces us to taek some classes

i'd probably have no english, no history and all stem classes

[dusky cliff]

based

[real forum]

At some point they don't really become necessary IMO. I will never ever touch anything with history, and I don't really need further English/lit skills IMO

[radiant socket]

of course you don't think you need them

[real forum]

Fair

[fluid plank]

Enough

[daring jay]

My school's English classes are useless

[ornate scroll]

my schools english classes are pretty hard tbh ;-;

[daring jay]

I have literally learned the exact same thing for 3+ consecutive years

[real forum]

Mine is just the most boring shit ever

[forest ether]

[x*2|x <- [1..50], x < 100]

is this checking x*2 > 100 or x > 100

[radiant socket]

is that python

[forest ether]

no

[dusky cliff]

i think thats haskell

i think the equivalent python is [x*2 for x in range(1, 50) if x < 100]? so it checks x < 100

[forest ether]

i see

thanks

[median blade]

is that a haskell list comp

jeez

[limber pollen]

Close enough

λ [x * 2 | x <- [1 .. 50], x < 100]
[2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,24,26,28,30,32,34,36,38,40,42,44,46,48,50,52,54,56,58,60,62,64,66,68,70,72,74,76,78,80,82,84,86,88,90,92,94,96,98,100]
it :: (Num a, Enum a, Ord a) => [a]

Haskell's is much more concise

[dusky cliff]

map(2 .__mul__, range(1,51)) 😔

[ornate scroll]

:blink:

[tranquil ridge]

damn i didnt know you can use space to separate from literal

always used (2).__mul__

[dusky cliff]

what lang is that 👀

!raw 463035268514185226-925258649222410262

[clever salmon]

== Raw message ==

`​`​`​scala
for(a <- (1 to 50) if a*2 < 100) yield a*2
`​`​`​
😔

[dusky cliff]

scala

m

[limber pollen]

Dotnet needs Clojure and Scala equivalents

Although C# feels like it's going to the Scala direction more and more

[median blade]

what lang is this now

scala nvm

[median blade]

what about F#

[limber pollen]

That's OCaml

[median blade]

hm

[fluid plank]

very raw indeed

so rawring

[digital bane]

Yeah i get the same feeling as a C'# dev

[digital bane]

So opt for on prem rather than remote work when you start your career after school

If you do better online do all remote

Lol i was supposed to reply to previous comment but misfired

[digital bane]

I have yet to meet someone in the .net space that uses F# they exist somewhere out there

[median blade]

hello there

[limber pollen]

All the FSharpers are on the OCaml side of the pond

[digital bane]

Yes

[digital bane]

Rawr :3

[limber pollen]

F# honestly works really nice as a companion language to C#

[digital bane]

Yes

[limber pollen]

or maybe C# is just better designed than most, being a corporate language and all

[digital bane]

Ah its C

But sharper lol

[limber pollen]

I know that one of Haskell's original authors, Simon Peyton Jones, worked on MS Research for a while

[digital bane]

Same lol

[rare moat]

@fathom basin

first of installation is a hurciliean task
Arch Linux is actually quite simple to install in my experience. you just need to follow some good guide. takes like < 20 minutes haha.

using it on a daily basis requires you to stay updated on your deps so you dont run into issues if you use a laptop
mind elaborating on what issues would come up, and why it is specific to laptops in particular?

maintaining is just tedious compared with other distros such as ubuntu and debian
define 'maintaining' please.

[fathom basin]

nah

[rare moat]

[sinful sun]

Herculean* goddamn

[fathom basin]

you know the answers and being facetious on purpose

[rare moat]

that is not how this works haha what.

you cannot just make a claim, and not elaborate on it just because you think the other person is being facetious haha.

that is just not okay.

[fathom basin]

okay.

not gonna bounce a ball against a wall

[rare moat]

so can you elaborate?

[fathom basin]

if you use ubuntu, most of the internals are managed through the os, you use arch, everything is handled upon your commands. you can do the same from arch to ubuntu but in arch you NEED to. not gonna elaborate beyond this cos you feel like there are descrepencies between comparing ubuntu > arch then you just ignorant.

a normal user who wants to be productive wont use arch

[rare moat]

i am a normal user. i use Arch. i am productive haha.

you cannot just speak for everyone like that.

[fathom basin]

whats the percentage of arch users out of linux

[rare moat]

i do not know, do you know?

[fathom basin]

pretty sure google does

[rare moat]

can you give me stats on that? haha

[fathom basin]

do you honestly think its more than ubuntu?

[rare moat]

more what than Ubuntu?

Ubuntu is definitely more convenient in my opinion, yeah.

but so is Windows haha, but here we are.

you can do the same from arch to ubuntu but in arch you NEED to.
i just do not see how this inherently makes Arch impractical?

like i said, you cannot just make a blanket statement like that.

people obviously do use Arch. if it was just 'not practical' period, like you seem to think judging by you saying that people should only be using Debian, then people really would not be using it, no? haha

obviously no distribution is going to be inherently better than any other. it is contextual.

Arch suits my needs best because i enjoy having a small system which i can build to suit my needs.

if somebody does not care about that, Arch is definitely not a good choice.

but not 'practical' period? absolutely not haha.

if you personally dislike Arch, that is perfectly fine. nobody is forcing you to use it, but do not parade around making claims like that.

[fathom basin]

apparently, due to the linux being created from the efforts of gnu, data collection is basically one of pillars of thier philosophy and they practise that by not collecting that kinda data

but if i just reproduce the data i've seen quantitatively

ubunutu has recorded 40 million computers

and arch has about 81k

[rare moat]

what data?

i mean yeah i imagine Arch is in the minority, that makes sense to me. haha

but i do not see how that changes anything i just said?

[fathom basin]

but thats not reasonable because linux is mostly used in vms and servers i

[fathom basin]

i've used linux but i wont ever take it over windows

[rare moat]

sure, neither would i.

[fathom basin]

having no update automation is impractical when you understand that other establised os's such as ubunut and debain have a dep update automation imbedded within the os.

[rare moat]

update automation?

[fathom basin]

automation in general

[rare moat]

what do you mean by that? if we are thinking of the some thing, Arch does have automatic updates. you just run sudo pacman -Syu in your terminal haha.

[fathom basin]

...

[limber pollen]

I just run sudo pacman -Syu every two weeks and get on with my life

[rare moat]

^

but regardless

[fathom basin]

well, ubuntu has it enabled by default

[rare moat]

so what haha

regardless, the problem lies in you making a blanket statement.

just asserting that Arch is inherently impractical. =\

when that is obviously not the case.

[keen burrow]

imagine not using yay

[rare moat]

IMAGINE USING THE AUR

🤪

[fathom basin]

why is it used less than other linux os's. obviously at a certian point you'd want ultimate customisability, but in statistics, you cant make conclusions on a closed data source. more people use debian and ubuntu than arch

[rare moat]

i just build my packages manually..

[keen burrow]

I have a few things from the AUR

[rare moat]

whether or not it is commonly used is irrelevant.

[keen burrow]

not things that I particularly care about

[fathom basin]

why

[rare moat]

because, you made a blanket claim.

by saying that Arch is impractical.

[fathom basin]

doesnt matter

[rare moat]

it does. that was your original claim.

and it is wrong.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463035268514185226/925377192966385725/unknown.png

[fathom basin]

it is impractical

[rare moat]

not inherently, no.

[fathom basin]

doesnt matter

[keen burrow]

well, if you make a statement, you need to be able to back it with arguments

[rare moat]

sure, for some people it might be.

i personally find Arch very practical. do other people? maybe not. but that does not make Arch inherently impractical haha.

and that is fine.

[fathom basin]

compared with other os's such a debian which i reccomended,

[rare moat]

now you are shifting the goal posts.

yes, compared to other distributions.

for the average person, maybe.

but you need to say this stuff.

[fathom basin]

statistics are based on average people, not people that would bias the data like you

[rare moat]

i am providing absolutely no data haha

[fathom basin]

saying oh well if i think arch is practicle, ofc the whole world must think that

[rare moat]

you made a blanket claim about an operating system.

[round moss]

honestly, the convenience of everything shipping with dev headers was enough for me to use it.

[rare moat]

i said that you cannot make blanket claims about something.

you, now add on, 'compared' to other distributions like Debian.

and continue arguing like that was your original point haha.

you did not say that in your original claim.

not even mentioning that it is still subjective to the person who is running it.

[echo flower]

for me arch/fedora are going to be second choices because im very familiar with ubuntu/debian and have 0 experience with others and i accordingly will be biased towards them

[rare moat]

it is not a question of statistics. it is a question of you making blanket claims.

[fathom basin]

bro how's it a blanket statement if there are less users of arch

am i making that up

[rare moat]

because you just asserted that Arch was impractical with no data whatsoever in the original claim.

the point is, there are people who find Arch practical.

i am one of those people.

it was not a claim of 'most people find Arch impractical'

your claim was that Arch is impractical.

no grey area haha.

[fathom basin]

bro your arguments is just repeating that

[rare moat]

i mean yeah, you have not given me any reason to not believe that you made a blanket claim haha.

[fathom basin]

well if you have decided to make your mind up then there's no reason for you to respond now is there

[rare moat]

i mean i guess haha

[fathom basin]

do you honestly think, a person who has intermediate knowledge of python, would gravitate towards ubuntu or arch. even if they get told about the pros of arch saying its more closer to the kernel and you will learn more about linux than other os's. i know for a fact, that with that skill set, unless is a computer forward genius, will quit at the installation unless they have the extraordinary intuition to google. im focusing on the install because most beginners who want to dabble with the communitie's labeled perfect os for programming.

and no, its not a blanket statement, it may be an assumption because i've not talked to everyone who's ever used linux but there are quantitative proofs.

[rare moat]

do you honestly think, a person who has intermediate knowledge of python, would gravitate towards ubuntu or arch. even if they get told about the pros of arch saying its more closer to the kernel and you will learn more about linux than other os's.
it was never a question of the 'average' person. again, you never mentioned an 'average' person. you just said that Arch is impractical. you are currently adding onto your original point half way through the discussion.

[fathom basin]

but it doesnt matter to me because i use windows and wont ever switch for linux

[rare moat]

is Arch impractical for the average person? probably, but again, that was not what you originally said haha.

[fathom basin]

bro i wrote 4 words

[rare moat]

maybe you should have mentioned all this sooner then. :^)

[echo flower]

ppl

stop

[rare moat]

clarification is important, you know?

[echo flower]

arguing

[fathom basin]

my bad i didnt write my whole thesis then and there

[echo flower]

its pointless

[rare moat]

thesis? haha

all you had to say was 'Arch is impractical for some, but not all.'

[hazy laurel]

wat are we talking about

[rare moat]

dumb C programmer stuff.

you would not be interested.

[fathom basin]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801

[hazy laurel]

:( seriously

[rare moat]

yes

[hazy laurel]

no

[rare moat]

do i need to pull out M4

[jade bolt]

yes

[rare moat]

/*
 * $1: the times to repeat
 * $2: the line to repeat
*/
define(`repeat_line', `ifelse(eval($1 > 0), 1, $2 `repeat_line(decr($1), $2)',)')

/*
 * $1: the list to index
 * $2: the index to get
*/
define(`index_list', `ifelse(eval($2 > 0), 1, `index_list(substr($1, eval(index($1, ;) + 1)), decr($2))', ifelse(eval($2 < 0), 1,,substr($1, 0, index($1, ;))))')

too small brain for @hazy laurel to understand

[hazy laurel]

quit that

[fathom basin]

is that haskell

[hazy laurel]

no

[rare moat]

i wish

[fathom basin]

im actually going into fpl

getting clojure up and running rn

[echo flower]

functions™️

[rare moat]

mmmm Lisp

[hazy laurel]

is this R or something

[limber pollen]

Haskell is ugly, but not that ugly

[fathom basin]

xD

[rare moat]

haha no, it is M4.

[fathom basin]

i wouldnt kwo

[hazy laurel]

makes sense

[fathom basin]

whats m4

[rare moat]

think the C preprocessor on steroids.

and looks 100x worse.

[limber pollen]

ML languages have their aesthetics sorted out

[fathom basin]

theres a language called reason-ml

what's a ml language

[echo flower]

whats the most aesthetically pleasing lang according to you

[fathom basin]

common lisp

[rare moat]

with what little experience i have with it? definitely Haskell.

[fathom basin]

and cpp

[rare moat]

declarative programming is very nice to look at in my opinion.

[fathom basin]

ngl, the ugliest lang imo is js

[rare moat]

(((((((((((((((((((((lisp)))))))))))))))))))))))))

[limber pollen]

Back in the olden days, there was Meta Language or ML. It had a fun type system and it spawned a lot of children.

[fathom basin]

lisp - the bracket god

oh meta language

[rare moat]

ML (Meta Language) is a general-purpose functional programming language. It is known for its use of the polymorphic Hindley–Milner type system, which automatically assigns the types of most expressions without requiring explicit type annotations, and ensures type safety – there is a formal proof that a well-typed ML program does not cause runtime type errors.[1] ML provides pattern matching for function arguments, garbage collection, imperative programming, call-by-value and currying. It is used heavily in programming language research and is one of the few languages to be completely specified and verified using formal semantics. Its types and pattern matching make it well-suited and commonly used to operate on other formal languages, such as in compiler writing, automated theorem proving, and formal verification.

[fathom basin]

i thought it was ml like machine learning

[rare moat]

^

[fathom basin]

bro what the heck is polymorphic

[rare moat]

formal proof that a well-typed ML program does not cause runtime type errors.
o_O what the fuck

[fathom basin]

i've been seeing polymorphic and parametric

ever since i've been delving into fpls

[limber pollen]

Poly - many
Morph - form

polymorphic - many forms

It's like generics but better

[fathom basin]

whats many forms, i mean i get it but what/where are the differences

say commonlisp

how come its polymorphic

[limber pollen]

For example, if I write:

def identity(x):
  return x

Let's pretend Python is statically typed. In a polymorphic language, identity would allow x to be any type, and you can represent that using a type variable

The notation is usually: forall a. a -> a which reads: for all possible types, this function takes some type a and returns a type a

[fathom basin]

so can a be a function xD

[limber pollen]

Yep. Types are programs, too.

[fathom basin]

im so lost, how does that make it polymorphic tho, i mean it can understand that there are different types

but why does checking for them make it polymorphic, or is that all that polymorphic is

[limber pollen]

The polymorphism comes from the fact that you can give it any type

[fathom basin]

is function a type

or are type just int and str and stuff

[limber pollen]

The function arrow (->) is a type, yes

[fathom basin]

😮

that complicates things

so does a function return somthing

[limber pollen]

I guess a more practical example is this: if you had a sorting function for a list, do you want that function to work specifically on a list of something, or a list of anything?

[fathom basin]

wait in a polymorphic lang, if a funciton is a type, does it need to return somthing?

[limber pollen]

All functions return something

Like in math

[fathom basin]

yeah i thought that just as i pressed enter

[limber pollen]

If you want your function to return nothing at all, you can return the None type or some equivalent

[jade bolt]

but what if i dont run it, i just do like func

nvm thatll return the function itself

[fathom basin]

well, im sure to process it or use it you'd need to call it or somthing

fair

[jade bolt]

its all functions

[limber pollen]

We're kind of getting into the territory of purely functional programming languages here

[fathom basin]

anyway, does anyone use vscode extensively

[limber pollen]

I personally use Emacs extensively, for the past year or so

[fathom basin]

i tried to use emacs but i couldnt figure out how ot open a folder

i still have it installed and would love ot use it

[limber pollen]

Though lately, I've been using Gitpod which comes with VS Code

[fathom basin]

but i love to press ctrl+enter to run a file using a extension that reads the file extension and runs a specific terminal command

[limber pollen]

I suggest using a configuration framework like Doom

[fathom basin]

i was told i would be incarcirated if i used vscode to develop c/cpp

oh yeah i installed doom

[limber pollen]

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRudW0aBNg8&t=655s

[fathom basin]

but even then i couldnt figure out how ot open a folder

[limber pollen]

A series that I can recommend is Emacs From Scratch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74zOY-vgkyw This pretty much taught me how to write my personal configuration file

[fathom basin]

man fuck it, not about to mess around with configs after just arguing over arch

almost about to lose my principle

[median blade]

ay he has a great tutorial on F# too

[hazy laurel]

isn't that the doom emacs logo

[limber pollen]

That's the Emacs logo

[hazy laurel]

I thought Emacs looked a lot worse than that

[rare moat]

Emacs is cool

[limber pollen]

That's the boomer logo, yeah

[hazy laurel]

I've not really seen the "new" logo outside of doom emacs haha

maybe I just never paid attention

[echo flower]

wtf is that red thing supposed to be

[hazy laurel]

a goat I think

GNU

[echo flower]

the head looks ok but the rest...

[hazy laurel]

ah yes

https://www.britannica.com/animal/gnu

[daring jay]

Moi

[echo flower]

me2

[fathom basin]

got a solutoin

[echo flower]

or as you said in fancy french, moi aussi

[daring jay]

For what?

[hollow heart]

@jovial islandto add to your warning, cut it out in general, our server and help channels are not here for you to troll with fake python4 malware

[jovial island]

ok?

[hollow heart]

is that a question?

[jovial island]

yes?

[hollow heart]

so you've not understood my instructions, or what?

[jovial island]

or what.

[hollow heart]

our server and help channels are not here for you to troll with fake python4 malware, follow the #rules and #code-of-conduct to stay on the server.

[jovial island]

ok.

[jovial island]

and stop pinging me.

please.

[hollow heart]

i've pinged you 1x here and 1x in pygen

and sent 1 warning thru @clever salmon bot

that will be all

[jovial island]

ok

[odd sphinx]

samb

damn*

[rocky nebula]

am bored

what to do? any idea?

[steel eagle]

Write a detailed simulation of alcohol fermentation

[hollow heart]

hey! i installed your vs code theme yesterday :)

[steel eagle]

Nice! How are you liking it?

I haven't done much dev in a while, life has been very crazy

[hollow heart]

i think we have the same taste for contrast levels

[daring jay]

what's the extension called, if I may ask?

[hollow heart]

i might add some other colors

awoo @daring jay

[daring jay]

this one? https://github.com/CodeBizarre/vscode-awoo-theme

[hollow heart]

yup looks like it

[steel eagle]

@hollow heart @daring jay https://github.com/CodeBizarre/purple-wolf-theme

You should consider looking at the newer iteration

A LOT more work and effort to bringing everything up to shape

[daring jay]

that looks pretty good

I'll try it

[hollow heart]

ooh nice

[hollow heart]

!tban 848973439644729355 1w told you earlier not to troll our help channels. don't send rick roll bitly links in multiple channels under the guise of giving help. once again read our #rules and #code-of-conduct if you want to return

[clever salmon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @sacred plume until <t:1641321010:f> (6 days and 23 hours).

[daring jay]

I mostly like it, but the one thing that bothers me is that the bottom bar is still the default blue

it doesn't match the scheme

other than that, it's wonderful

[hollow heart]

@nova sandal here's a link that will explain our help system: https://www.pythondiscord.com/pages/guides/pydis-guides/help-channel-guide/

[nova sandal]

too long not reading

[hollow heart]

ok that's fine, go ahead and claim a new channel #❓｜how-to-get-help

[nova sandal]

i dont need a new channel

i was replying to the answer

simple as

nothing in the rules against it

[hollow heart]

ah ok. our help channels cycle in and out and have different claimants

so if you need to respond to someone after your session goes dormant, you can ping them here in off-topic

this is so that latest new help sessions are not interrupted

and read our #code-of-conduct bc telling users to stfu is against our rules. be kind and welcoming on this server

[nova sandal]

yea well he contributed nothing to my question outside of a condescending: "read the rules" which clearly he hasn't read, what do you expect

[hollow heart]

i expect you to respond civilly or walk away from discord

[nova sandal]

😂

[short cliff]

I mean if that's too much for you to handle we're more than happy to do it for you

[nova sandal]

Do what you want idc. Not my problem if the channel system is flawed

[short cliff]

I'm open to suggestions for a better solution

[nova sandal]

well there's Django but no Flask dedicated channel.

Voice verification shows the wrong information for the verification command.

Theres also no way to make threads which would resolve the issue

[hazy laurel]

I'm confused... Don't Django and Flask go in #web-development?

[short cliff]

The Django Workshop is separate from the #web-development channel, which encompasses Flask and Django as well as light amounts of - friggin ninja'd

[nova sandal]

no flask

[short cliff]

Which information is wrong in the voice verification?

[slate leaf]

Correct, we had an Admin do a Django Focused workshop

[short cliff]

The thread creation is locked due to the high likelihood that it'd be abused, especially during raids

[nova sandal]

I don't see voice verification anymore after I have done it but when i was trying to get verified it was wrong someone had to give me the command

[hazy laurel]

If you wanna talk about Flask and other Python web development frameworks, macro and micro alike, there's #web-development

the Django workshop just happens to be an event

[short cliff]

!voiceverify is the command. The channel disappears after you gain the voice verified role

[sinful sun]

Voice verification says !voiceverify is the command

[nova sandal]

ok well thanks I presumed the Django workshop was the only channel

[short cliff]

Always better to ask than assume

[hollow heart]

it's kind of a pop-up channel, it will probably be archived soon maybe.

someone was hosting ad-hoc django workshop sessions over voice/stream

[hazy laurel]

slapping this here

[nova sandal]

nah there was a different command when i was trying to do it

[daring jay]

eivl, I think

[hollow heart]

lol yes ik ik

[short cliff]

When did you verify? It hasn't changed since we implemented it

[hazy laurel]

it's been !voiceverify for at least a year, since I've become active here

[nova sandal]

it showed !verify

shenanigans gave me the command

that worked

[short cliff]

The !verify command was for our old Server Gate system before Discord implemented a native one

You might be thinking of that?

[nova sandal]

no idea

so you aint adding threads?

[short cliff]

No current plans to do so, no

It has been considered

[real forum]

How would you implement threads to voice verification?

[short cliff]

To the help system

[nova sandal]

i didnt say for voice verification

can you not just slowmode on theads

[short cliff]

I don't know if we can for creation

And even if it was on a per user basis, we had a 4k user raid yesterday

So that's a lot of potential threads to clean up

[nova sandal]

why cant i minimize channel sections

[hollow heart]

mute the category

then when you collapse it, they should properly collapse

[nova sandal]

ok thanks

[hazy laurel]

I hate that tbh lol

I have to mute so many categories

[short cliff]

You don't even know the half of it

[hollow heart]

yeah mine are all muted and uncollapsed only as needed lol

[short cliff]

So many staff channels.... so very many....

[daring jay]

I keep the help, topical, and bot categories muted

Other than that, I find I can navigate the server pretty well

[hollow heart]

i still regularly lose the staff lounge

ah there it is

[hazy laurel]

I always lost #bot-commands

it was the reason I suggested the emoji in category names

because it was always so hard to find

[slate leaf]

!server

[clever salmon]

Server Information

Created: <t:1483877013:R>
Roles: 94
Member status: 57,478 234,647

Members: 292,126

Helpers: 138
Moderation Team: 35
Admins: 15
Owners: 3
Contributors: 45
Leads: 9

Channels: 237

Category: 31
News: 8
Staff: 70
Stage_Voice: 2
Text: 117
Voice: 9

[slate leaf]

Only 237 channels

[hollow heart]

twas a good suggestion, i like the emotes

[daring jay]

70 staff channels 👀

[hollow heart]

lmfao

[hazy laurel]

haha I was worried it'd get shut down like the many times people suggested emoji in channel names

[hollow heart]

^ that idea was split so not everyone shut it down

[daring jay]

I feel like in channel names it's noisy, but category names are so small

[slate leaf]

But it looks so good

[hazy laurel]

for help channels, I feel like the emoji would definitely help with navigation

LOL the times I've accidentally scrolled down to the dormant channels

looking for a specific channel and wondering why it's not there

[short cliff]

The problem with the emoji per channel is that it makes it really noisy when you have all of them right there

[hazy laurel]

I would imagine this is where threads would be helpful

[short cliff]

Fair, but currently hard to manage.

It'd require a fairly hefty overhaul of our current help system if we went that path

And it's not as easy for folks to find the right thread

[hazy laurel]

In what regard?

[short cliff]

Actually how many threads can you have per channel...

[hazy laurel]

AFAIK there's not a limit

not any... feasibly reachable one

[daring jay]

1000 (or was it 10000? probably 1000) active total, no channel specific limit afaik

[short cliff]

Fair. What I mean is that currently if you can't remember which channel you claimed, the easiest way to find it is to just search from: your_username

[nova sandal]

you can limit thread lifetime i think 30mins-1week

[short cliff]

That doesn't really change if we use threads

[nova sandal]

or click the link the bot sends you in dm

[short cliff]

Forgot it does that

[daring jay]

With threads, it's hard to find them imo. Once there's enough threads in a channel, it scrolls up too far to see older ones. (for helping, not receiving help)

[hazy laurel]

With threads, you can see all the ones you're added to

[short cliff]

Sure, but what if you're a helper and want to hop between them

[hazy laurel]

if you've not joined a thread, it's hidden

Then you go to the threads section

[short cliff]

It makes it much less visible to people wanting to assist.

[hazy laurel]

I'd argue the opposite

with the thread UI

It's a lot easier to keep track of help threads via the thread UI

You also get to keep track of which thread involves what, with the naming of threads

[short cliff]

Remind me, does the time limit trigger regardless of whether or not there's still activity?

[hazy laurel]

and also the most recent messages

[slate leaf]

Is that reaction a pointing finger or a middle finger?

[short cliff]

Middle finger

[slate leaf]

just checking

[nova sandal]

was it?

[hazy laurel]

timer starts when there's been inactivity

[short cliff]

Yep

[nova sandal]

i thought it was pointing mb

[short cliff]

Hovered over it and that's what it said

Happens

[nova sandal]

i agree with what he says, its easier to follow individual requests and requests as a total

[daring jay]

maybe you want 👆?

[nova sandal]

yes

[short cliff]

There's also

I'll have to poke around it. With discord.py being dead, there's a lot of other frameworks that're trying to take its place. I think there aren't going to be a lot of huge changes until that gets worked out

[real forum]

Maybe pydis can make a fork that's actually good 👀

[hazy laurel]

This is from another server

[nova sandal]

very clean

[short cliff]

That'd be such a huge undertaking

[hazy laurel]

but I feel like it's actually fairly convenient of a system

[short cliff]

And we already struggle with getting reviews and what not

[real forum]

Yeah I know. It sucks that it's probably not going to happen, because I think pydis could actually maintain and make a good fork

[short cliff]

Does it let you scroll or just show the top 7?

[daring jay]

There are some nice forks out there

disnake isn't half bad

[hazy laurel]

You can scroll through all of them

[short cliff]

Lots of messy things in it, though

[real forum]

Disnake is the only one off the top of my head that is semi useable

[short cliff]

Was talking to @storm birch about it earlier

[hazy laurel]

pycord is another one

[real forum]

No.

[hazy laurel]

AFAIK pycord's more popular

[storm birch]

ah, yes. I disliked disnake

[hazy laurel]

dislikesnake

[real forum]

Pycord is very very bad

[storm birch]

It felt like discord.py, but worse.

The way they do slash commands is super nice though

[hazy laurel]

Is there anything you prefer instead?

[daring jay]

This put a bad taste in my mouth about pycord https://github.com/pypa/pypi-support/issues/1438

[real forum]

I didn't like it, but after learning about how they tried getting the name pycord on pypi and how they went around trying it it made me realize that I will never use it

[storm birch]

Sadly I have only used d.py and disnake.
And discord.js, but that was a bit of a yikes

[hazy laurel]

to quote a wise man, "JS belongs on esolang"

[short cliff]

Old JS maybe

Modern JS is pretty clean

[hazy laurel]

you can't disagree with the wise man

that's illegal

[daring jay]

serenity.rs has been my favorite discord api wrapper I've used to date

[hazy laurel]

hmmm I feel like serenity was the C++ one

but I'm thinking that's not it

what's the C++ one

Sleepy?

[rustic harbor]

DisCorD.go

[real forum]

Wait that follows an exact pattern

[daring jay]

Slash commands aren't very fleshed out, but non-interaction stuff seems pretty nice

[slate leaf]

Sir Lancebot I hope it is past 5pm in your timezone, you're drunk

[real forum]

It's not

I just checked and it's hosting in Pennsylvania

[short cliff]

One man's wise statement is another man's homeless guy on the bus rambling

[daring jay]

wait wut

I thought it was in Frankfurt or smth

[real forum]

So it's 3:28 PM for @rustic harbor

[real forum]

Idk I just looked up where linode servers are ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hazy laurel]

I think your grammar broke, you just compared wise statements to a someone's homeless man

[short cliff]

Close enough

Know what I mean not what I say

[real forum]

If you did "own" a homeless man are they really homeless?

[hazy laurel]

I am the home

[real forum]

So they live inside of you? 😳

[hazy laurel]

I guess so

but what if you're homeless

[short cliff]

You are the home but you are not your home

[hazy laurel]

😔

sounds like a new Spider-Man movie

spider-man: you are the home

[fluid matrix]

AQUÍ ME LEES HAZ?

[fluid plank]

hmm

sussy cat

[hazy laurel]

Zhongli what are you doing here

[fluid plank]

Looking for some stuff to pass time. Any osmanthus wine while I'm at it? where is Ei? I have heard that woman has always looked for osmanthus wine

[hazy laurel]

she's busy slaughtering giant snake gods

[fluid plank]

Ah that's why she is always depressed

That woman is too obsessed with eternity

Only furthers stagnation but nothing will change decay

[hazy laurel]

😔

[upbeat sandal]

@storm birch it is time

get under the knife

[keen burrow]

[upbeat sandal]

@keen burrow you too

all the kidneys are belong to me

[keen burrow]

[real forum]

It's alright we don't need both

[keen burrow]

Look at it this way

My kidney isn't worth it

Because you are gonna murder three people at once for a single kidney

[real forum]

Yes, and?

[visual slate]

You should really be more discrete about it smh, much as I appreciate the philanthropy

[sly jetty]

where did he get so much kidneys?

suspect

[visual slate]

all with the utmost legality I'm sure

[sly jetty]

surely

a hero would not do that breaking the laws

[jovial island]

Damn, good for them to donate 200 kidneys ||/j||

[sly jetty]

stonks

[digital bane]

Spider man went home finds out things aren't ok ... goes to Dr Strange and the whole saga repeats in space and time... fix and repeat like some cosmic bug that refuses to die... then our heroes die but not before uploading the multiverse bug fix

And they break the laws of physics and the box office

[hazy laurel]

:faint:

[digital bane]

*world mourn Spider man and Dr Strange but a new Spider man but a girl and a Dr Stranger appear from a parallel dimension.. we dont know yet if it was a bug of fhe multiverse bug fix... stay tuned... credits roll

*a revived Tony Stark appears in a short clip after the credits then darkness and the audience goes wild

(Hire me marvel lol excelsior )

[fluid plank]

so why are u colored white

why have u become so normal

[digital bane]

Our superheroes revive a cat chief cereal officer and he meets a raccoon called Rocket with some attitude... Rocket invites the cat to join in some adventure in space

[jovial island]

lol what is this ot

[upbeat sandal]

@jovial island give me your kidneys

[jovial island]

Oh yeah\

have sokme of this\

[jovial island]

you was sayin?

[upbeat sandal]

That you better give me your FUCKING kidneys!

[jovial island]

Ban.

[digital bane]

This is like a certain Monty Python skit

[radiant socket]

a🚌

[upbeat sandal]

This isn't a monty python skit. This is reality.

[jovial island]

And in this reality, RazorFace will walk out triumphant!

[upbeat sandal]

No.

[digital bane]

Watch out for the multiverse

[jovial island]

Yes.

[daring jay]

That . is so threatening (Sterlercus's)

I love it

[jovial island]

I am finally complete!

Power!! Unlimited power!!!

[jovial island]

bruh

[digital bane]

*the raccoon a cat and a spiderwoman band together to beat evil organ donation corp headed by a multi bald headed Jeff Besos monster

[jovial island]

@upbeat sandal I'll take your glasses before you get the kidney.

[digital bane]

Furry critters band against animal testing toi

[upbeat sandal]

This is the same as saying "I'll kidnap you"

[jovial island]

I will take you to the depths of duck underworld.

[upbeat sandal]

Good. I'm in charge of that.

[jovial island]

NANI

[upbeat sandal]

Lemon gave me a t-shirt that says so.

[jovial island]

!give-ban 253696366952316929

[jovial island]

🧢🧢

[digital bane]

*our heroes cut one head of the jeff besos monster but it survives and grows bacc like a hydra... it says Hail Hydra! The king of Amazon

With an organ donation subsidiary

*they stike the body of the beast can kill it then shout checkmate your king is dead.. but a clone of Bezos was revived from a brainhub backup...the King is Dead.. long live the King

The Monty Python Flying Circus appears on flying horses to join in the fight against organ donation along with scantily clan Asgard women on flying horses too

[digital bane]

The Flying Circus folks on horses were chase towards a cliff by the Asgard Women on horses.. temporarily they fell disappearing from view but reappeared flying to chase clone Besos on a private jet with lasers... pew pew

Jeff bezos put on a Mecha suit to become Mecha Bezos after his jet explodes as flying Asgard women on horses shoot down the jet with magic arrows.. (to be continued )

[jovial island]

damn

[small coral]

Why u need my kidneys

It's illegal

[real forum]

Because he needs all the kidneys

[small coral]

😳

Sus

[jade bolt]

it isn't :)

well it depends

like transplant in hospitals should be legal

but buying from black market isn't

it all depends on the law of your country actually 🤷‍♂️

[storm birch]

I just saw this. You only get the one

[hazy laurel]

do fish even have kidneys

[storm birch]

That is a silly question of course they.... heavy typing into Google

[jade bolt]

they have i think

i mean, fish have to pee

[digital bane]

And a salt water fish needs it more

[jade bolt]

and fisher used to have a dog pfp iirc

dogs have kidneys

hmm, do fish drink their pee

[hollow heart]

all the 🌊 is .... 👀

[digital bane]

Yeah lol and swim in it

[jade bolt]

👀

[storm birch]

Why do you think the ocean is so salty?

[hollow heart]

EEWWWW

[storm birch]

LOL

[small coral]

Huh

[hollow heart]

[digital bane]

Lol

[jade bolt]

how do i pee blue pee

[small coral]

yellow

[storm birch]

The blue color is actually just due to the refraction light. So just create enough of it

[digital bane]

Yes

[jade bolt]

oooo

[small coral]

Yeah we studied it in science class

Tell me smth idk

wait I have smth

what's the worst way of dying? Anyone?

[storm birch]

Fun fact: I once saw a bright green fish while I was diving. It drove me crazy, I couldn't figure out what it was...

Then months later I realized the fish was red/orange and just looked green because I was too deep. I felt big dumb.

[jovial island]

fishes can drive?

[small coral]

Dive

[jovial island]

oh

[small coral]

.

[storm birch]

Fire?

[jovial island]

It's

when you die by words

[small coral]

Yes it is but what's the cringiest way

ok lemme tell

France 7th president died of blowjob 😂

[jovial island]

when you lose your own purpose

[small coral]

This

[hollow heart]

uh sfw please

[jovial island]

that's nsfw?

[small coral]

Actually 7th one died of bj

[small coral]

Okie

Can I send memes here?

[jovial island]

im thinking shinero means smoking

it qualifies nsfw?>

[small coral]

Ew

Only real pros can watch it completely

[digital bane]

About to get a covid shot 3rd doze

[hollow heart]

eh no to the memes too lol sorry

[small coral]

I didn't even get one

[small coral]

Ok :(

Watch it then I'll delete it

[storm birch]

If it's a jump scare, we delete you

[small coral]

Who?

It's not a jump scare tho

Just a meme

[digital bane]

Why lol are you medically unable to get one or no shots in your location

[small coral]

I'm 15

and in my country only 18+ are vaccinated

15-18 will vaccinated after 3 Jan smh

[digital bane]

Ah ok stay safe

[small coral]

Okies

I added anonymous funcs in my lang lessgoo

[digital bane]

And hide your kidneys too in this chat lol Dialysis is expensive

[small coral]

Sure mate 🙂 lol

[daring jay]

That language looks pretty cool

Although I think it would be nice if you split up the basic.py file

That 2231 line count is not very welcoming

[median blade]

lol

[small coral]

Yeah lol

[small coral]

Thanks anyways

[native cobalt]

@wheat rock genuine curiosity

just how bad

[wheat rock]

like

using eval without explaining what is eval in code blocks

lmfao

[native cobalt]

Oh lord.

Why are they using eval in the first place?!

[jovial island]

Yo

[serene lava]

Does anyone here know java spring?

[jovial island]

What should I code with

[wheat rock]

for cases like taking a list or dict from user as input

[native cobalt]

Spring or string?

[native cobalt]

They're barbarians.

All of them who wrote the book!

[serene lava]

Spring

[native cobalt]

That's a new one. Never heard of a spring before.

[wheat rock]

-> begins chapter
#stuff

section x :

list manipulation

x = eval(input("enter the list :D"))

print(x)

now it will explain everything they did in the code except eval , lmfao

[serene lava]

Welp

Just a sec lemme send sc

[native cobalt]

Ah, it's a framework.

[serene lava]

Yes

[native cobalt]

I see, I see.
Then no, I don't know about it then. I'm sorry about that.

[serene lava]

Its okay thanks anyways

[native cobalt]

I don't even

SAVE THAT STUFF FOR THE ITERATION CHAPTER

I'm losing my mind.

[wheat rock]

the sad part is the self proclaimed geeks of my class who stick themselves to the book thinking they know more than the universe

lmao i cant

[native cobalt]

It's fine when the book's right...
But by god when they use unsafe eval to do lists

That's when we're throwing hands.

[wheat rock]

not only lists but everything

lol book

[native cobalt]

E-everything?

[wheat rock]

same goes for some py books on amazon

[wheat rock]

lol

[native cobalt]

Some books?
You mean to tell me there's more than one idiot?!

[wheat rock]

yesh

its business my frend

[native cobalt]

it's shit business

See you in the next 10 years when all your devs make the same mistake and allow for RCE by using EVAL

ffs

[jade bolt]

enter malware code (to infect yourself!) :D

[wheat rock]

people with incomplete knowledge tends to get moni from incomplete means of business and tends to spread incomplete knowledge

across the god damn world

we need awareness

[jade bolt]

input without \n is unacceptable

[wheat rock]

lmfao what

[wheat rock]

https://tenor.com/view/adventuretime-lemongrab-unacceptable-unexceptable-gif-4798745

[native cobalt]

Just look at that shit! Anyone can do a silly one liner to import subprocess and fuck you over but sudo rm'ing the whole filesystem

And these gangoons think it's a fine way to program!

[jade bolt]

can i use ast.literal_eval? 🥺

[wheat rock]

lmao this reminds me of one of my assignment question which was of 5 marks and i did a one line

[native cobalt]

only if you give me a scooby snacc

[native cobalt]

Did you get full points though?

[wheat rock]

had a good argument with the teacher , ehe

yes why not

i showed him it works

on the pc

lol

[native cobalt]

"why not" doesn't instill confidence

[jade bolt]

got it :)
if it works it works

[wheat rock]

yes

[native cobalt]

But hey, it works

[wheat rock]

exactly

[jade bolt]

time to do a scratch one-liner

[native cobalt]

Fuck your readability, I'm here for results!

[wheat rock]

its not fricking history where you gotta elaborate your shit

:D

[native cobalt]

Every program commented like the Bible.

[wheat rock]

also the best back up line from teachers when you do some crazy stuff
Its NOT in OUR syllabus

[native cobalt]

FACTS.

[wheat rock]

ikr

[native cobalt]

I remember my Java teacher getting pissy at me for using this before we touched it.

class Thing {
  private int x;
  private double y;

  public Thing(int x, double y) {
    this.x = x;
    this.y = y;
  }
}

Like, I'm just using what I know!

.randomcase It's not in our syllabus for this year!

[rustic harbor]

it's nOt IN ouR sYLlabUs FoR THIS yEAR!

[jade bolt]

cmon you can do better

[native cobalt]

Yeah ok bitch, I'm here for results.

[jade bolt]

you should've do
this.this.this..

[native cobalt]

Lol

[dusky cliff]

record Thing(int x, double y){} 👀

[native cobalt]

[wheat rock]

damn

[dusky cliff]

jshell> record Thing(int x, double y){};
|  created record Thing

jshell> new Thing(1, 2.0)
$3 ==> Thing[x=1, y=2.0]

[native cobalt]

yooo, new things?

[dusky cliff]

yee

java 16 i think

[jade bolt]

meanwhile i'm still using java 8

[native cobalt]

That's sick. I need to look at grabbing JDK 16 then

[native cobalt]

LTS ftw

[dusky cliff]

java 15's got multiline strings

calls them text blocks or something

[native cobalt]

it's the character square

[dusky cliff]

[native cobalt]

the alphabet soup

[dusky cliff]

jshell> var a = """
   ...> aaaaaaaaaa
   ...> aaaaa
   ...> aa
   ...> """
a ==> "aaaaaaaaaa\naaaaa\naa\n"

[native cobalt]

oh.

[jade bolt]

acronym ftw

[native cobalt]

Oh no.

var

I want to cry

[dusky cliff]

its wonderful

[jade bolt]

^^^

[native cobalt]

It actually is wonderful, nevermind

yet another thing to piss my teacher off with

[dusky cliff]

yes.

[native cobalt]

var thing = new Thing();

[dusky cliff]

ye

[native cobalt]

yes

Yeah, I'm so going to flex this on all the kids who think they have to type out the whole qualified name

[jade bolt]

lol

[dusky cliff]

i would be surprised if my java teacher is aware that generics exist

maybe she is

idk

[native cobalt]

I like generics.

They make me feel special.

[echo fern]

how many years of Java education does it take to learn this then

[native cobalt]

Apparently half a year...
In the master's course.

[jade bolt]

about 9223372036854775808 years i think

[median blade]

lol

all i know is that all my CS teachers have a habit of naming their variables horribly

[median blade]

inference?

[jade bolt]

who doesn't

or is it just me

😢

[old flax]

Good to hear

[old flax]

Do you mean things that were added on top of dpy or dpy things as well

Maybe we can improve something while still preserving dpy syntax

[tribal tinsel]

@jovial island @fresh yarrow i feel like we should move to offtopic XD
https://instagram.com/juniperfoxx?utm_medium=copy_link this is Juni's profile. It's full of educational materials about foxes and rescue... And a lot of goofiness because foxes are playful :3

[jovial island]

Ouu 😳

[fresh yarrow]

Ok