ot2-the-original-pubsta

[jovial island]

I had that open when starting the computer

[hazy laurel]

well... Google suggests "fractional digit"

or "fractional part"

[exotic hound]

yes

[jovial island]

https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/141863/do-digits-after-the-decimal-point-have-a-specific-name

this is also called mentissa but as OP said, not very well known.

[hazy laurel]

"Mantissa" is apparently not what they're asking for

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Significand

[jovial island]

oh i mean, in above question, one person claimed it.

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=mantissa&t=crmtb01

@hazy laurel

[jade bolt]

you losed your pfp

:(

[hazy laurel]

oh \🤔 then Wikipedia and Wolfram have different definitions

[jovial island]

apparently

[jovial island]

oh

yeah i did.

someone claimed it as NFT

[jade bolt]

wat's a NFT

[jovial island]

basically a crypto file saying you "own" a file at a specific url

except it has a ton of flaws

claimed what?

[jade bolt]

ooo i think i know what's that now

[jovial island]

my pfp?

yes

o_o

[jade bolt]

that's why it's gone? cool shit ngl

[hazy laurel]

it was deleted for NSFW

[jovial island]

my pfp was clean and good thank you very much.

[hazy laurel]

it was unsafe

think of the kids, damn it

[jovial island]

wow

[jade bolt]

renaming nsfw to nsfk when

not safe for kids :)

[hazy laurel]

not safe for kids is right

think of @jade bolt

cover your eyes, my child

[jovial island]

well its gone for good

[hazy laurel]

good

you're right. it's for the good of the kids

[jade bolt]

but someone already claimed me as their child

[hazy laurel]

wait a minute

since when

who is it

[jovial island]

everyone is @hazy laurel 's children

[jade bolt]

last minute

[hazy laurel]

me

you are my child

[jade bolt]

🫂

[pliant trench]

i code in C++

[hazy laurel]

meow. you have three fathers btw

[jade bolt]

and uncountable mothers

[wheat rock]

back from skool yay

[hazy laurel]

D: how?

[pliant trench]

me too

[jovial island]

its iskul

[pliant trench]

magic

[wheat rock]

whatveer

[hazy laurel]

Aph's mothers... one of many uncountable infinities

that's right, I watched a Veritasium video

[wheat rock]

hilbert

hotel

right

[hazy laurel]

well... is it technically possible to count "0"

[jovial island]

i was gonna say space when you said hilbert

[wheat rock]

infinite hotel rooms paradox ™️

[hazy laurel]

yes

[jade bolt]

um, i accidentally planted a bomb on each room

[hazy laurel]

you've got a green thumb for planting bombs

[wheat rock]

finally someone who uses whatsapp desktop

[jade bolt]

how can you tell

maybe i just have a long screen

[wheat rock]

um intuition

[jade bolt]

ok

[jovial island]

insistuition would be a funny word

[hazy laurel]

is it weird I only ever see foreign people use whatsapp

[jovial island]

I had to use WhatsApp for work and it was painful

[wheat rock]

yes

[jade bolt]

maybe it is popular in my region

[wheat rock]

the world should shift to discord

[jade bolt]

(range shrinked, oh no time to dox me)

[jade bolt]

pls no

[hazy laurel]

nobody here really uses whatsapp

[jade bolt]

😢

[wheat rock]

atleast microsoft teams will have no use then

lol

[jovial island]

teams will have its people

[wheat rock]

working for microsoft

[jade bolt]

different usage perhaps

[jovial island]

teams got teams

[jade bolt]

wait, do workers in microsoft needed to use bing

[wheat rock]

why not just a video call in vc for client meetings

[hazy laurel]

nobody really uses that here either

it's all Zoom

[jade bolt]

why not use bing

[hazy laurel]

We even had a robotics competition over Zoom LMAO

[jade bolt]

nobody uses webex? 😢

[hazy laurel]

we had to build our own little arena and film it

[hazy laurel]

Never even heard of that

[wheat rock]

discord has bigger scope , for developers

[jovial island]

don't tell me you lost it?

[hazy laurel]

well... I was on track to do really well on my turn to drive the robot

[jade bolt]

i'ma train tactics with beidou, bbye

[jovial island]

its by tcs or wipro right?

[wheat rock]

a senior would be able to inspect their activity in vscode using status lmao

[hazy laurel]

but then a PWM connect to the motor came loose

and then just... popped out

[jovial island]

there we go! see @jade bolt your father lost!

[hazy laurel]

so I was stuck with an underpowered robot that wasn't strong enough to move anything

and it was very slow

so I got 0 points 😔

[jovial island]

lies

[jade bolt]

oh, i'm timmy :(

[hazy laurel]

I thought it was Noel that was without his father

or maybe both

[jade bolt]

hv u got hutao btw

[hazy laurel]

yes

[jade bolt]

is it only me, that haven't

[jovial island]

hutao?

[jade bolt]

a character in genshin impact

[hazy laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/690404950999564398/905230858548555816/unknown.png?

um

no embed?

[pliant trench]

embed failed

[hazy laurel]

that was weird

I fixed it by adding a question mark

[pliant trench]

discord don't like cat supermacy

[fluid plank]

fuck. u got her twice?

im not playing

[hazy laurel]

nah. this is just the image I sent you ages ago

I got Diluc after her on the standard banner

and Amos Bow on the weapon banner

[wheat rock]

damn

I WANT HER

[hazy laurel]

lol she's so good

hard to build, though

[frigid pollen]

@cinder nexus Apologies for vanishing, earlier. Power brownout.

The consequence of living in a bushy suburb.

Windstorms bring down trees onto lines.

[cinder nexus]

yeah its fine, dont worry about it lol

is there a difference between blackout and brownout? lol

[frigid pollen]

A touch activated lamp with an incandescent bulb turned itself on and was faintly flicker glowing off and on.

Very spooky. 😁

I would say a blackout is zero power.

Brownout is reduced but present power.

I could charge my phone, but couldn't turn on a light.

[cinder nexus]

The word makes sense now lol

[frigid pollen]

...and the oven kept beeping whenever it got enough power.

[cinder nexus]

grayout could also be one

[frigid pollen]

Which it did several times.

[cinder nexus]

I dont think I have ever experience a blackout

[frigid pollen]

I ended up turning it off at the fusebox.

[cinder nexus]

but i am struggling even without a blackout, my pc crashes atleast once a day for some reason

I am guessing its a problem with BIOS

[lapis plinth]

did you overclock it?

[cinder nexus]

nah, i have enough power without oc

[frigid pollen]

Hm. These things can be difficult to know the cause of. It's often unexpected.

[cinder nexus]

but the latest windows 10 update has messed things up somehow

[frigid pollen]

Ah. Except in such cases.

[cinder nexus]

I have not looked into it too much

[lapis plinth]

oof windows will be windows

[frigid pollen]

Come over to Linux. We have cookies.

[cinder nexus]

linux is scary

[lapis plinth]

chocolate chip even

[frigid pollen]

Don't like one distro? Try another!

[cinder nexus]

I only use linux on virtual machine lol

I would contact windows about the issue but Idk if they want to help me since I have cracked windows lol

[lapis plinth]

oof

drivers maybe?

[frigid pollen]

Tut tut.

[cinder nexus]

yeah could be also, havent updated them in a while either

[cinder nexus]

ok ok its not technically cracked, since I bought the windows, but I have used the same windonws on 4 different computers

[lapis plinth]

then come to linux, the land of if you own a nvidia gpu you get walmart drivers

i cant

[cinder nexus]

It would be pretty patriotic of me to use Linux lol

[slow summit]

linux is the way to go, if you worry about games, use wine and proton, if you worry about professional tools like photoshop, adopt others, like gimp! Gimp is actually more comphrensive than photoshop but has a higher learning curve. I dont see why dosent everyone who is slightly tech savvy use linux

Well I can see with the problem of nvidia, but the prprietary drivers have worked fine for me so far, and theres no noticable change for me. amd users should definitely use linux, since is the opposite of nvidia. their drivers in linux are great but in windows walmart drivers

[somber belfry]

many games do not work on linux even if you use WINE or proton

especially games whose anti-cheats don't like to play nice with linux

[hazy laurel]

well, really it's kind of only games that have these anti-cheats

that's really the big problem with supporting games

the anti-cheats themselves do actually support Linux

the problem is... you're not using the Linux version if you're having to use Proton/WINE

you're using the Windows version on a Linux device, and so they deny access from the game

this has changed recently with EAC and Battleye allowing support for games being run under Proton and WINE, but for them to work you need the games themselves to explicitly enable it

My expectation with the release of the Steam Deck is that games will switch it on in hopes of supporting it, since the Steam Deck runs games under Proton

Maybe I've not tested enough but AFAIK from the benchmarks I've seen, I've heard it was the opposite for many games

maybe it's because the games are so bad they never make it into any worthwhile benchmarks lol

but AFAIK, most games that run properly under Proton actually perform better than on Windows

and the differences is wider on games like Minecraft, where even natively Minecraft runs much better on Linux than on Windows

and if you compare gaming on Linux to something like macOS, then it's very clear that Linux is actually winning in this regard

[median blade]

lul

[jovial island]

My server got nuked with channels and role spammer and I need bot to fix it

[elfin vine]

How can a bot fix that?

[radiant socket]

how does someone have perms to do that in the first place

[small cloak]

@jovial island Re: #help-grapes message

It's simply```py
def isPixelPlaceable(self,x,y):
"""Checks if a Pixel is placeable

    Args:
        x (int): X Coordinate
        y (int): Y Coordinate
    
    Returns:
        (bool): If its placeable or not
    """
    return (x, y) in self.placeable```

[jovial island]

i think ive tried that but lemme test it

it indeed returns False for both Statements

20:1:1 [Debug] Elapsed time: 0.4264 seconds
20:1:1 [Debug] is 1,1 placeable? False <- Hopefully says False
20:1:1 [Debug] Elapsed time: 0.3665 seconds
20:1:1 [Debug] is 1798,603 placeable? False <- Hopefully says True

Debug stuff is just a fancy print thing

ive actually opened a new thing again if you have any other ideas #help-chestnut

@small cloak (pinged cause your name says so)

[eager yacht]

Who is Jake and Bear?

[hazy laurel]

good question... what has happened to Jake

[jovial island]

who is jake

[fluid plank]

wrong jake smh

[daring jay]

jake.#1234

[wide totem]

ugh for this test file I need to convert a path and all of its subfolders into a zip, then into bytes, then it is used as a mock return value, then it gets turned back into a zipfile....

and all of this (except for the initial files) is using io.BytesIO to not write multiple times to disk lmfao

I should honestly cache this

its not going to change during test runs

and if it does I can probably check

meh

[jovial island]

Heloo

[hazy laurel]

I figured out why I thought Jake like died

he talks like nowhere except the voice chats

[wide totem]

but- it resolved

HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Connection: close
Content-Length: 4961
Content-Type: text/html
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 06:08:46 GMT
Server: Apache
X-Powered-By: PleskLin

lol the server exists but whois returns nothing nice

[tepid hamlet]

Java programmers: There's an impostor among us.

[hazy laurel]

more like every kind of programmer ever

[shy cloud]

Too

[hazy laurel]

th

[sinful sun]

Absolutely detest java-esque python code

But apparently its the only style you'll find in academic python

Profs and their hard on for java amirite

[echo fern]

academic python??

my python prof was fine

[odd sphinx]

ayo what

[fluid plank]

wtf

[echo flower]

my eyes

[tepid hamlet]

its a joke

[keen burrow]

you know what hurt me there

it is that println isn't a static method

[echo fern]

yeah, this shouldn't even work, I believe

[keen burrow]

it will work, which is super sad

!e

class A:
    def method(self, other):
        print(type(self), type(other))

A.method(A(), 1)
A.method("abc", [])```

[clever salmon]

@keen burrow :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | <class '__main__.A'> <class 'int'>
002 | <class 'str'> <class 'list'>

[jade bolt]

it works

[echo fern]

ah, I see, that's cursed

[clever salmon]

@jade bolt :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 4, in <module>
003 | NameError: name 'Colour' is not defined. Did you mean: 'Color'?

[echo fern]

why can you call instance methods on a class... 😔

[jade bolt]

2 late

!e
class Color:
green = (0, 255, 0)

print(Color.green)

[clever salmon]

@jade bolt :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

(0, 255, 0)

[keen burrow]

I believe there are reasons to do it

yeah

!e

print(*(map(str.split, ("a b", "b c", "c d"))))```

[jade bolt]

it's like how you can do class.whatever_func(instance, args)

[clever salmon]

@keen burrow :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

['a', 'b'] ['b', 'c'] ['c', 'd']

[keen burrow]

that's one of the main use

[echo fern]

meh, in this case you also call them on a self of the wrong type

[keen burrow]

I mean, type safety has never been Python's goal

[echo fern]

I mean, type safety has never been Python's goal
🥴

[keen burrow]

true

[echo fern]

well, I guess memory safety is hard to violate in it

[keen burrow]

and that's why I like it

[echo fern]

akarys likes to live on the edge 😔

[keen burrow]

I also like not having to perform a magical ritual to make the compiler accept my code

[wheat rock]

puns rust

[jade bolt]

isn't that great?

😈

[wide totem]

bruh how is that expanded markdown thing in github comments written

where its minimized and then you can make it bigger by clicking the arrow

how is that written

[somber belfry]

https://gist.github.com/citrusui/07978f14b11adada364ff901e27c7f61

[wide totem]

thank you so much

I know you probably just googled that but still

[somber belfry]

[median blade]

no

[daring jay]

tl;dr

<details>
  <summary>Whatever shows when it's collapsed goes here</summary>
  all the hidden stuff here
</details>

[shrewd lance]

<details open> if it should be extended by default

[fluid plank]

just because of oneko command im going to watch CardCaptor Sakura 1998

@somber belfry https://youtu.be/Nm3SkXThL0s i saw your youtube video vivek

[somber belfry]

lol

report and block the impostor

[median blade]

❌

[tribal tinsel]

Omg, I remember those kitties. I had those on windows as a kid, I dunno from where. Lots of different ones that just hung around and played and one traditional oneko, white.

By default the traditional one fled from mouse, which kinda annoyed us because those other, more complex one, were draggable XD

I used to open lots of them at once and use ms paint to arrange rooms for them. And if one eg fell asleep in wrong room, I'd put it in the 'bedroom'

[shrewd lance]

I have actually used the desktop goose to increase my productivity

[jovial island]

@short cliff tell ak he is a science student and doesn't know shit about biology :3

[short cliff]

Like

Comp sci?

[jovial island]

like maths and physics and chemestry and informatics and a little bit of english and french and pain

[short cliff]

Pain, the best science

[jovial island]

yes

the science to rull 'em all

I feel like I'm forgetting one

yeah, I guess the first three are each two different sections

[fluid plank]

i tell you

im a microbiology student. idk comp sci

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jovial island]

lol

they were talking about a potential jellyfish that eats rocks

[daring jay]

but akky was right, it's not unlikely

[jovial island]

and while that's pretty unlikely due to the nature of jellyfishes, he mentioned a worm that does that

oh he is right

[fluid plank]

what about it. you mean those polyp like thingies?

[jovial island]

i'm not saying the opposite

polyp like what

well, the question was does it exist

[fluid plank]

jellyfish starts there lives as stationary creatures before they became jellyfish. they attach to rocks. but idk if they eat rocks.

[keen burrow]

lmfao thanks little girl

yes I do in fact not know about biology, but then so do you

alright, that's all I wanted to say

[jovial island]

;P

[radiant socket]

bread science

[pliant trench]

um

are you talking to yourself

[pliant trench]

you don't get it

[dusky cliff]

it

people also contract USA to US

[fluid plank]

i contracted a disease

[dusky cliff]

bruh

[odd sphinx]

decontract it

[shrewd lance]

break the contract

[lucid osprey]

unsign the contract

[jovial island]

EW WHY DID SOME1 SAY “THANKS LITTLE GIRL” disgje ksfbkabd make me 🤮🤮

[lucid osprey]

when

[jovial island]

LOL HERE

[keen burrow]

?

Is little girl a forbidden word?

[jovial island]

Yes

WHO SAYS LIL GIRL DAT SOUNDS CREEPY ND WEIRD 💀

[keen burrow]

i-

That's just how I call her?

[lucid osprey]

that's the pfp, no?

[jovial island]

OKAY BYE MAYB IS JUS MY MIND 😍😍🤚 mods can ban I thibk so omg periody yir right

[keen burrow]

It isn't even the pfp, that's how I call her irl haha

[jade bolt]

i wonder how two communicate irl

[lucid osprey]

irl? you know that person face to face?

[jade bolt]

uh it is plurality, ak's other identity

[lucid osprey]

hm

[jade bolt]

wait, it sounds like that movie named split

[lucid osprey]

yea saw both of their bio

[keen burrow]

Haha, okay, sorry I thought you knew. Yeah, she is my other identity, basically we are two persons living inside the same body, https://morethanone.info if you are curious

[lucid osprey]

that's fucking cool

[hazy laurel]

it's kind of... demeaning to call someone "little boy" or "little girl"

[keen burrow]

Most of the time the main fronter can send actual words and the other replies with a stream of thoughts

[hazy laurel]

idk, you call someone little until they're old enough to be offended by "little" lol

[jovial island]

Material gworl 😍🤪

[keen burrow]

I mean I always call her like that and she is fine with it

[jade bolt]

[hazy laurel]

it's just a bit weird otherwise

[jade bolt]

kinda interesting

time to get myself another identity

[keen burrow]

She says she is mentally younger than me anyway, so little is appropriate :3

[jovial island]

Omg two personalities 😋🤞

[jade bolt]

to cheat during tests

[lucid osprey]

how do you talk

to each other

[jovial island]

💀

[jade bolt]

ill have all fun and the other identity is going to study

[lucid osprey]

also how does that other identity use discord

[jovial island]

BYE STOP Y’ALL VIOLATING

[hazy laurel]

I guess if that's what she's okay with and/or prefers, then yeah... but outside of like romantic, friendly, or funny/ironic conversation it's a bit weird ¯_(ツ)_/¯

it's almost like calling someone an old man

[jovial island]

WHY R YHESE SO FUNNE

[hazy laurel]

I don't get it

[jade bolt]

arent really related to the topic

@jovial island can you stop shouting btw

kinda uncomfortable

[jovial island]

Helicopter helicopter 🥰🤞

[hazy laurel]

uh

[jovial island]

I hope yur not uncomfy now🙏🏽

[keen burrow]

She calls me old man haha

[keen burrow]

But, like, she is literally my closest friend

[keen burrow]

She has her own account

[jovial island]

4lifers 😍😜

[keen burrow]

^ also here is how we discuss

[lucid osprey]

hm

[jovial island]

So honest question, is it like that book? One personality gets heavy on other and stuff. And other personality doesn't know how they got there and stuff.

A lil telepathic 😍😍 a lil spiritual awakening 😋

[jade bolt]

i think i used to have other identity too, but it just suddenly gone, i dont know why

[jovial island]

I mean it is confusing tbh to me atleast about how things work y'know'd'I mean

Same sometimes I become two faced 🥰

[keen burrow]

I have no idea what book you are talking about haha

But nah, I think we both know why she is there

[jovial island]

Well it's tell me your dreams.

Oh i see. Great I'll look in more detail on the website you shared.

[jovial island]

.bm

I don’t read botty 😫

I remember once I started fighting wit a bot bc they weren’t replying 💀💀 kind of embarrassing 😭

[pliant trench]

@jovial island weren't you gonna sleep?

[lucid osprey]

damn

[echo flower]

theme \🤩

[dusky cliff]

every time I venture into Together Java i discover stuff that i didnt even know was valid syntax

A b = (A & B) () -> {};

[echo fern]

okay, () -> {} is a delegate

but wtf is casting to (A & B)? what's A&B?

[dusky cliff]

something something intersection types, im just discovering it too

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se17/html/jls-4.html#jls-4.9

[echo fern]

hmm, cute

[dusky cliff]

A and B are FunctionalInterfaces

@FunctionalInterface
interface A {
    void foo();
}

@FunctionalInterface
interface B {
    void foo();
}

[echo fern]

seems like a useless expression though

I mean, you cast it to (A&B) only to assign to an A-type variable

that &B will be lost immediately

right?

[dusky cliff]

i guess so

[radiant socket]

is that java 17

[dusky cliff]

works for me in java 11, idk when it was introduced

[echo fern]

Java 22 be like: IEnumerable<T>

would var infer to (A&B) here?

[shrewd lance]

did they ever go from type erasure to JiTing proper containers btw?

[pliant trench]

great

I think i can type 150+ now

[open lion]

can anyone pls type and send the one line code needed to open obs through bat file

ping while answering

[ionic locust]

@remote widget @civic plank It could happen to big packages too. Here's the one on NPM I mentioned https://therecord.media/malware-found-in-npm-package-with-millions-of-weekly-downloads/

[remote widget]

Ah thanks for that!

[dusky cliff]

i saw something similar today about pip

[remote widget]

https://therecord.media/malicious-python-packages-caught-stealing-discord-tokens-installing-shells/

[civic plank]

ohj wow, so they got access to original authors account and republished the package with malicious code in it

[dusky cliff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/qy2q95/malware_downloaded_from_pypi_41000_times_was/

[remote widget]

Tbh, in this one year since I have been on discord, only since the last few weeks, I am hearing a bit too many instances of hacked accounts. Welp

[ionic locust]

One issue is that in open source often people who don't even know each other at all are collaborating and have the perms to edit packages like that in malicious ways

[remote widget]

What's the name of the lib

[dusky cliff]

idk

[civic plank]

ah i see

[remote widget]

Welp, idk how to use reddit

[remote widget]

Oh, I thought I wasn't able to see the name 😂

Tbh, since the last few weeks, discord has become hackercord 😕

[tall depot]

@rare moat this is how its setup

[rare moat]

and what file is importing car_class?

[tall depot]

code.py

[rare moat]

can i see the code for code.py?

[tall depot]

maybe its a vsc problem

[tall depot]

ok

[tall depot]

from car_class import Car

new_car = Car(90, "Mercedes", False, "Black")

[rare moat]

and the code for car_class?

[tall depot]

class Car:
    
    def __init__(self,speed, model, is_driving, color):
        self.speed = speed
        self.model = model
        self.is_driving = is_driving
        self.color = color
        
    def drive(self):
        if self.is_driving != True:
            self.is_driving = False
            print("The car is driving!")
             
    def stop(self):
        if self.is_driving == True:
            self.is_driving = False
            print("The car stopped driving!")

[rare moat]

can you open a terminal in that directory?

[tall depot]

sorry, I'm new to vsc

how do i do that

?

[rare moat]

hit CTRL-Shift-P and type "open external terminal"

[tall depot]

oh it somehow worked

[rare moat]

the code, or the terminal?

[tall depot]

i opened an intergrated terminal

and now its working

[tall depot]

the code is working now

[rare moat]

yeah it is probably an issue of where you are running it from.

[tall depot]

yea

thank you for helping 😃

[rare moat]

no problemo

[jovial island]

Why won’t my crusty d2l work 🤪🤞 like da one time I’m tryna do homework it doesn’t wanna work 🙄🤚

OMG SZA NEEDS TO DROP DIS

And an album I can’t wait 🙏🏽🙏🏽😭😭

[eager spruce]

What are your favorite words, guys? I must know for personal reasons.

[ember oar]

hmm, for me it'd be the word portmanteau

[eager spruce]

Ok

I guess

[ember oar]

what about you?

[eager spruce]

New word acquired

Quattuordecillion

[jovial island]

anyone experienced in haskell who can show me the way

[eager spruce]

Oh my! Are you a long word nerd as well?

0-o really?

It's caused by ash so...

Yeah

Lol

[tribal tinsel]

supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

[eager spruce]

Ah yes the word made up by someone who has an umbrella

[tribal tinsel]

a word made up with a definition by someone who made up the character who has an umbrella

[eager spruce]

Y e s

[tribal tinsel]

but I love this word because as kids we had Disney DDR and it was a hard song~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO3l_96A3Po this

[eager spruce]

Now since I need more information, what is the largest FINITE number you're aware of?

[tribal tinsel]

number of subsets that set of subsets that set of subsets (...) of real numbers has

[eager spruce]

Is there a name for that 🤔

[radiant socket]

really powerful set

[tribal tinsel]

Satan, Cantor, and Infinity is a nice book

[eager spruce]

Me when Cantor's ordinal moment

[tribal tinsel]

not really, because Cantor basically says that for any set, set of its subsets has more elements.
empty set? -> set with empty set inside
one-element set? -> set with: empty set, one-element set inside
so for any set X, 2^{X} is has more elements
we also know that we don't have the same infinities
that's why I queued a lot of "subsets that set of" and undefined more of them in "(...)" to make it a big-ass infinity :3

but is "infinity" a number, or did I cheat the task?

[radiant socket]

float('inf') 😤 /s ||(i know they aren't reals)||

[eager spruce]

Technically you did but I never said finite so... my bad

Ok

[tribal tinsel]

for named number, googolplexian is the biggest I know. but we can make googolplexian^googolplexian and more powers...

[eager spruce]

NOW for FINITE NUMBER

[eager spruce]

Nice

Ever heard of googodplexianth?

Yeees

Me when gigangol moment

Y e s

I think Rayo's number is the largest well-defined finite number to be coined

[tribal tinsel]

it might be the same one, I did -ian because that's what I know but + -th might just be the same name for English one

[eager spruce]

Yes

I am very intrigued in big numbers although I don't understand too much

I made up a stupid notation

It combines Steinhaus-Moser notation and Knuth's up arrow notation

[tribal tinsel]

I had a friend from science camp looking for huge prime numbers as prime^n-m, with prime other that usually used 2 🙂

[eager spruce]

.

Smh

Ok I-

I had to say smh

Cause everyone I know does that all the time

I also happened to mess with the definition of Rayo's number to make a larger one

[jovial island]

IMMA SEND A TIK TOK da audio is Finn to me 😜🙏🏽 don’t ban me hHehHheheishf

GIRKSH dis audio is so funny to me omg

[fluid plank]

imma move to america and meet my old crush there

smh

oh wrong channel

[eager spruce]

"The smallest number bigger than any number that can be named by an expression in the language of first order set-theory with less than a googol Rayo's number symbols." Is what I did to it

It's probably larger than Rayo's number idk

Then it wouldn't be finite 😔

Yes technically

You can add a quattuormillacenduoquadragintillion for every [Planck time] that passes for the amount of Planck time that has passed since this very second and it's still finite

[jovial island]

oh nahh y’all too smart for me 😭🤚 what is this

[eager spruce]

LMao

Idk

I happen to be a nerd ig

Lol

Memory 👌

[tribal tinsel]

3301

[eager spruce]

Like how I memorized quattuormillacenduoquadragintillion

Same thing 👍

Jeez lol

Very random

🤯

The code works at least

At least you know a super big prime number now 👌

Now onto next question!!1!1

What is your favorite state of matter

Lol what did I expect

For me:
Bose-Einstein condensate

cause pro 😎

[jovial island]

Liquid 🥵

[eager spruce]

Ok ._.

Is strange matter a state of matter?

I don't think it is

[jovial island]

Solid liquid gas aqueous periodt I’m so smart tyty 😋

[eager spruce]

Ok ._.

[tribal tinsel]

...how?

wasn't one of such checks just either pre-elimination or pre-accept? so it needs further checks?

[jovial island]

Paggages???

[jovial island]

paggages?

[jovial island]

bruh

[mental idol]

@rare moat

[rare moat]

oh wow

i had no idea that it was a full debugger.

[keen burrow]

@jovial island are you @jovial island?

[jovial island]

this guy?

[keen burrow]

Yes

[jovial island]

funny question why do you ask?

[jovial island]

What

nothin

[keen burrow]

Well, are you using an alt?

[jovial island]

maybe

maybe not

how to know?\

[hazy laurel]

.-.

[jovial island]

yes indeed

[jovial island]

i dont like

dots

[jovial island]

yes

how did you know?

[keen burrow]

Makes sense

[jovial island]

scuse me?

lol did you check github?

and alizee called me creepy

hmph

[hazy laurel]

my conclusive evidence

is that both "Atom" and "ProfessorIgnoramus" use Brave

[jovial island]

damn

[hazy laurel]

what a coincidence

and both say "obama"

[jovial island]

so big brain

[hazy laurel]

what a coincidence

[jovial island]

well obama is funny

[hazy laurel]

I mean let's be honest, nobody sane uses Brave

and Obama was like so 2008

[jovial island]

you just insulted

both of us

how rude of you

yes indeed

[hazy laurel]

.-.

[jovial island]

i dont like

dots

@keen burrow how did you know?

yes im also curious

BRUH

@keen burrow wut

yes what indeed

[hazy laurel]

it's the Brave

smh

[jovial island]

will you tell

how did you know

please

[keen burrow]

I mean it was pretty obvious

[jovial island]

wdym

[fluid plank]

brave 🤮

[hazy laurel]

truth 😔

[fluid plank]

i like its features but i wont use it because i have personal reasons

😔

no to anti rainbow CEOs 😔

[hazy laurel]

beyond that, I just don't think Brave's worth using

[pliant trench]

braves not a 🤮, but ok

[hazy laurel]

it kinda is

[pliant trench]

nah

[fluid plank]

truth

[pliant trench]

that's the second browser I like after firefox

[fluid plank]

i just use vanilla chromium

with ublock origin

[pliant trench]

🤮

[fluid plank]

ew bloat

[pliant trench]

truth

[fluid plank]

🥴

[carmine herald]

imagine using alts amirite

[keen burrow]

Imagine

[wide totem]

lmfao why.... gitlab....

gitlab allows 255 character usernames

but project paths can only have 255 character paths

which means its possible to create a user that can't create issues

https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/197976

[fiery glen]

I wonder if the advent of code was built in HTML or another programming language that supports website building

And if so, my boss challenge of December will be to replicate it (of course keep it private too)

[daring jay]

If you're curious about how Advent of Code works, it's running on some custom
Perl code. Other than a few integrations (auth, analytics, social media), I
built the whole thing myself, including the design, animations, prose, and all
of the puzzles.
view-source:https://adventofcode.com/2021/about

[fiery glen]

Oh that’s interesting!

I don’t know Perl yet so I’ll just use HTML for now

Must’ve been tough making a whole website with unique puzzles every day

[fluid plank]

lmao.

[jovial island]

I am hurt! also xithrius was using brave last stream in which xithrius was making twitch tui

[jovial island]

i had a whole lot of fun making alt

and using it to spam

[fluid plank]

🥴

hey idc what u use lol

[jovial island]

ohk

sorry

[jovial island]

you are coding... dna?

[scarlet lotus]

Rna

[jovial island]

what's that

[jovial island]

oh also i may or may not have copied the wannabe programmer term

from you

[scarlet lotus]

Idk DNA reverse or something

[jovial island]

lol

[daring jay]

not exactly

[grim seal]

brave not good browser

ty for coming to my ted talk

[daring jay]

RNA is single stranded, and some other differences that I can't remember

[jovial island]

sad

[scarlet lotus]

they make proteins or something or tell jokes

[scarlet lotus]

bravo!!

[jovial island]

ted talk?

[echo flower]

one other difference is that it uses uracil instead of thyamine
so single stranded, replace "T" with "U"

[scarlet lotus]

i will not say

[jovial island]

XD

@grim seal come this channel

[clever salmon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @jovial island until <t:1637552246:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: duplicates rule: sent 4 duplicated messages in 10s).

[jovial island]

Wow

Tho they don't have the role so its !echo probably

[dusky cliff]

no joe unmuted him

[jovial island]

Oh ow alright

It was joe's fault in the first place

[cursive willow]

Woww😱

You doing Ted talk

Pls send its link announcement

Thank you

[upbeat sandal]

@jovial island omg it's razorface

You are banned

Goodbye

[jovial island]

What

I didnt even do anything yet

[upbeat sandal]

@jovial island but you like to call people noobs

[jovial island]

I will take your glasses if ban

I am bully ducky : )

[upbeat sandal]

NO

[jovial island]

haha

[upbeat sandal]

you see, I am the glasses

[jovial island]

and the glasses control the body

[upbeat sandal]

And the body is like a puppet that I control

[jovial island]

Yes

so if i take the glasses

[upbeat sandal]

That is human trafficking

[jovial island]

i will technically kidnap you

yes

[upbeat sandal]

Or sentient object trafficking, idk

[jovial island]

I can probably make big money If i sell a pair of living glasses for research

[upbeat sandal]

Jokes aside, I've gone to as many as three different stores to pick out new frames to make sure that they look identical

Each iteration of frames must be indistinguishable

[jovial island]

in-dis-ting-uish-able

it-er-at-ion

[upbeat sandal]

What

Ra-zor-face

[jovial island]

Stel-er-cus

[upbeat sandal]

Twen-ty-se-ven

No it would be ste-ler-cus

I guess stel-er-cus is fine

[jovial island]

yes

[dusky cliff]

sell cir cus

[upbeat sandal]

What

[dusky cliff]

sell cir cus

[upbeat sandal]

What even is that

[jovial island]

I - am - the - glass-es-and-the-glass-es-con-trol-the-bod-y

I thought you would be a pretty serious guy or smth tbh

first time seeing you talk

your github pfp looks pretty serious thats the major reason lol

[upbeat sandal]

We were discussing this in a staff channel earlier. I speak only in a monotone voice

In real life

But I say lots of serious and non serious things

[jovial island]

You are pretty fun

[upbeat sandal]

Thanks

I'll remember that when I ban you

[jovial island]

give yourself +500 social credit

[jovial island]

Why

[upbeat sandal]

Taiwan is a country

There it goes

[jovial island]

Would have been a shame if my last words were "you are pretty fun" and they too to the guy who banned me

[upbeat sandal]

One time I banned someone who had previously said they thought I was cute. And a girl.

[jovial island]

mods have dark humor

[jovial island]

lol

[scarlet pagoda]

Sup comrades

[jovial island]

sup

[echo sinew]

Hey guys what's a good wireless gaming mouse under 60$ (after Black Friday sales)?

[jovial island]

glorious model

O

instantly comes to my mind but ask for other opinion

[echo sinew]

not exactly a fan of that kind

[upbeat sandal]

@echo sinew Bluetooth Mouse, Rechargeable Wireless Gaming Mouse Multi Device(BT5.0+BT3.0+2.4G) with Side Buttons, RGB LED Light, Ergonomic Cordless Computer Mice for Laptop/PC/iPad/MacBook Pro/Tablet(Black) https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08KW5QC7S/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_8QHKK4G7B01XF59757DG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I've been using this one. Got it because it switches between Bluetooth devices and is rechargeable. However the build feels quite cheap.

[echo sinew]

Was looking at Basilisk X Hyperspeed by Razer but I would like RGB

[scarlet pagoda]

Demn

[jovial island]

what's demn about this?

[echo sinew]

oh wow that looks very nice

[scarlet pagoda]

idk he replied so fast

[jovial island]

oh

[echo sinew]

Do you guys have any other recommendations? I like to have some options on stuff like this

[jovial island]

You can get a better one to be honest

if black friday sails

sales*

[scarlet pagoda]

Your budget is 60 dollars right?

[jovial island]

Um yeah crimson? ghoul? what to call? said that

[echo sinew]

yes

after black friday sales

like how the Basilisk X is 35 after sale

[jovial island]

how bout g305?

no rgb tho

hmmmm

g703 has slight rgb

also i think it will be under 60

during black friday

rgb

lol

its 100$ tho

[echo sinew]

Yeah I looked at that one too

g305

[jovial island]

you will blow all of your budget even if you do order right now

[echo sinew]

yep

[jovial island]

and wont have money for chocolates which is just sad

[echo sinew]

How good is the Basilisk X Hyerspeed tho?

[jovial island]

its on the heavier side

i think

[echo sinew]

I think I am fine since the Basilisk V2 which i tried out in Best Buy is fine for me

Really liked the V2 but it is wired which creates a lot of issues for me

[jovial island]

basilisks are pretty heavy

vipers are light

in mice

not snakes

[echo sinew]

lol

Which vipers would you recommend wireless?

[jovial island]

ultimate is expensive

that's a sus price tag amazon

[echo sinew]

Oh wow viper is expensive

[jovial island]

also idk if mini is worth it

[scarlet pagoda]

sup

[echo sinew]

weight isn't much of a concern

[jovial island]

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Viper-Ultralight-Ambidextrous-Gaming/dp/B07TT8G59J/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=razer+viper&qid=1637557371&s=videogames&sr=1-5

[echo sinew]

since I am perfectly good with

[jovial island]

this is wired tho

sadly

[echo sinew]

the Basilisk weight

yeah I need wireless

[jovial island]

sup

how expensive is razor orochi

let me check

[echo sinew]

Does steelseries have any?

I would prefer a mouse from Razer, steelseries, HyperX or logitech

[jovial island]

aerox?

aight class started i gtg

[echo sinew]

above budget

[echo sinew]

bye thanks for the help

[dull ridge]

nice

[scarlet lotus]

how about that keyboard based on laser

[jovial island]

I need Macros so Naga Trinity

[scarlet lotus]

that article calm me down

[elfin vine]

Yay to downloading like 8 Gbs to do C development

[shrewd lance]

pog

[elfin vine]

I thought C was an older language that was designed to not take so much space or memory o_O

[shrewd lance]

Generally yes

What are you downloading exactly?

[tranquil ridge]

why not mingw

[elfin vine]

Microsoft C++ Build Tools

[tranquil ridge]

mingw a lot lot smaller

[shrewd lance]

There's your answer

mingw and cygwin are more pog than msvc

[elfin vine]

https://tenor.com/view/fwayri-gif-21921107

[elfin vine]

Cygwin??

[shrewd lance]

Yes

It's like MSVC but mingw pretty much

So based

[shrewd lance]

he's way too sad

[tranquil ridge]

ikr

[shrewd lance]

I feel bad now

[dusky cliff]

so is bluenix

[round moss]

There are no pure C compilers and a good C++ compiler is insanely complex

Plus msvc needs all of windows

If you only get the few parts you need for pure C it's only like 2GB IIRC

[median blade]

i have both 2019 and 2022 lol

[elfin vine]

Lol

[pliant trench]

sad

[pliant trench]

lak have you ever looked at the C++ compilers source code?

[round moss]

I have read a bit if LLVM source

[elfin vine]

Oh yeah what's the new license that it's getting?

Moving from some MIT variant to GPL right?

[mental idol]

Opps

Only 77 files and +3.4k lines. My senior is gonna love me today.

[ionic locust]

Wow

I don’t think I would have the mental capacity to juggle changes in 77 different files

[zinc hatch]

I see you've select the "I'll give you 200 review comments out of spite" option

[mental idol]

[mental idol]

That or a "lgtm" and the silent treatment. 50/50

[mental idol]

To be fair, I started that refactor about a week ago. By six hours in I was chanting "oh no" under my breath while rocking slowly.

[zinc hatch]

What did you refactor?

2 spaces to four spaces?

"I own all the git blame now"

[mental idol]

100% of the model style across every object in the library.

"refactor"

It was starting to fall over, using the models and expanding the available objects. Too many tangles in what used what else and where. So... all the models are happier.

2/10 will not volunteer to "find a better way" again. But it ate up a holiday week with grunt work so I'm not really sad. Glad it's done and all the tests weren't too unhappy.

[shrewd lance]

Disapprove changes with the only comment being lgtm

[jovial island]

@slate leaf

[slate leaf]

So you didn't try before

[jovial island]

uh

[slate leaf]

Have you installed that packaged before trying to import it?

[jovial island]

some guy sent me this

aiohttp==3.8.1
apis==0.0.1
beautifulsoup4==4.10.0
colorama==0.4.4
discord.py==1.7.3
requests==2.25.1
wikipedia==1.4.0

[slate leaf]

Ok, that looks like a pip requirements file

[jovial island]

yes

i installed it

[slate leaf]

And you ran py -m pip install -r requirements.txt (assuming that is the name of the file and you are in the same directory)

Also, you installed the packages in the same python interpreter path as you are trying to run the script in right?

[jovial island]

just letting u know i am new

some stuff i dont understand

[slate leaf]

Alrighty

[jovial island]

i am trying 2 make a discord bot

[slate leaf]

Looks like you have the windows version of python installed from the store, instead of downloading from python.org

[jovial island]

i have both

[slate leaf]

Yeah but VS Code thinks you are using the windows one

[jovial island]

ohhh

how do i fix

[slate leaf]

And that may not be the same one that you installed the packages to

[jovial island]

thats tru

[slate leaf]

Should be able to hit F1 and type interpreter, then select choose interpreter

Then once that is open you can either choose the interpreter that is shown, or browse to it

[jovial island]

uhh

what happends if f1 dont do anything

and i am not trying 2 annoy u with being stupid

[slate leaf]

In VS Code you should be able to open the search bar at the top

[jovial island]

yes

[jovial island]

that

[slate leaf]

View > Command Pallet if F1 doesn't show up

[slate leaf]

Yeah, start typing interpreter, then click on Select Interpreter

[slate leaf]

wtf

[jovial island]

?

[slate leaf]

Do you have the python extension installed?

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-python.python

[jovial island]

this

[slate leaf]

I have no idea why your vs code isn't showing that

Might want to ask in #editors-ides

Or try reloading your window / check for updates all that jazz

[jovial island]

if u want i can send a vid hear 2 show u whats wrong

[slate leaf]

Last thing to try: click on the python version on the bottom

[jovial island]

ok

[slate leaf]

Have you tried running the file using the top right arrow?

Also reloading the window

[slate leaf]

Where did you run your pip install

[jovial island]

it was working fine 3 days ago but i reset my pc

[jovial island]

in a cmd

i just opend cmd

[slate leaf]

Ok, from that powershell in VS Code, try to run it

[jovial island]

ok

[jovial island]

dont wanna be stupid but uhh wheres the power shell in vs ?

ik theres this

[slate leaf]

You see the error code that happened? That is the built in powershell

[jovial island]

but what about in vs ?

[slate leaf]

The blinking cursor shows that you are in that directory

[jovial island]

ok

why this stuff so confusing it was fine bfor i reset my pc

[slate leaf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jovial island]

do u use team veiwer

[slate leaf]

Nope

At this point it might be worth claiming a help channel

Or try restarting everything

[jovial island]

how do i resstart my py

[slate leaf]

Close all terminals running it

[jovial island]

then what

[slate leaf]

Restart VS Code

[jovial island]

i have done that alot of times already

[slate leaf]

Restart your computer?

Last thing to try is to uninstall the microsoft store version of python entirely

[jovial island]

the problem is i cant install discord

[slate leaf]

py -m pip install discord from the terminal

[slate leaf]

Your VS Code is using the microsoft version of python

Click on the bottom python thing and choose the other one

[jovial island]

oh

[jovial island]

huh

taht

[jovial island]

OHHH

[slate leaf]

yeahhhhh

[jovial island]

witch 1

[slate leaf]

use the 2nd

[jovial island]

?

fixed the discord prblem

[slate leaf]

pip install it

[jovial island]

from cmd or

[slate leaf]

yes

[jovial island]

term

ok

[slate leaf]

👍

[jovial island]

is that code problem ?

[slate leaf]

looks like it, happy debugging!

[round moss]

after trying nushell for a bit, powershell is still better

the syntax is quite wonky, and it uses a toml file as a .rc

[short cliff]

Hadn't heard of nushell (or if I have I've forgotten)

[round moss]

it is quite obscure

I found it looking for easier to install powershell

which it does do

also, the docs are wrong

which is always a bad sign

they do have a great multiline editor

[short cliff]

Well at least it has one perk

[shrewd lance]

Having good multiline capabilities is hard, so props to them

Powershell is far from being great with that

[round moss]

I have found PSReadLine to work more or less flawlessly if you manually update

I will probably use nu as the default for the various nix servers I connect to

[shrewd lance]

That looks interesting

Powershell's been my new obsession for november

So having a better multiline experience with it would definitely be nice

[round moss]

ye, PSReadline does work quite well, though empty continuation prompts were broken until very recently

nu has very similar UX

both have emacs and vi style keybinds

[shrewd lance]

Seems like I'll be installing PSRL tomorrow at work

[mental idol]

def start_time(self, start: Union[str, datetime, None]) -> "SearchRecent":
    """Define start_time of query. YYYY-MM-DDTHH:mm:ssZ (ISO 8601/RFC 3339)"""
    if isinstance(start, datetime):
        start = to_ISO8601(start)
    if not is_ISO8601(start):
        raise ValueError("Datetime format expected: 'YYYY-MM-DDTHH:mm:ssZ'")
    self._fields["start_time"] = start if start else None
    return self._new_client()

Spot the bug.

I've been staring at this for five days, completely overlooked it

haha

[mental idol]

ze bug smished

def start_time(self, start: Union[str, datetime, None]) -> "SearchRecent":
    """Define start_time of query. YYYY-MM-DDTHH:mm:ssZ (ISO 8601/RFC 3339)"""
    if isinstance(start, datetime):
        start = to_ISO8601(start)
    elif start is not None and not is_ISO8601(start):
        raise ValueError("Datetime format expected: 'YYYY-MM-DDTHH:mm:ssZ'")
    self._fields["start_time"] = start
    return self._new_client()

now to figure out how to pull 17 of these methods into a builder so that five classes can use some of them but not others.
Side projects are fun.

[proper python]

exactly one while check

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/906538923164069945/912523711872110663/unknown.png

[fluid plank]

@hazy laurel

meow

prrrr

[hazy laurel]

meow

[fluid plank]

meow? krrrr krr krr nya?

[livid knot]

meow

[winter idol]

meow then

[hazy laurel]

meow

[jovial island]

woof

[carmine herald]

nya

[fluid plank]

chirp

[visual slate]

Might I hazard a ribbit

[ionic locust]

thunk

[small cloak]

🤣

[shrewd lance]

try:
    work() 
except Exception:
    window.open()
    yeet self

[sinful sun]

wouldnt that error if the string wasnt urlencoded

or does the browser do that for you nowadays

[small cloak]

yeah it will definitely error, just seems to be simplified code

[jovial island]

OwO yeethon?

[shrewd lance]

yes

CYeethon

[dusky cliff]

@proven rampart DM @vapid maple for permission before advertising

[proven rampart]

ok mb XD

[wide totem]

the second if will always be true if start is a datetime

[tribal tinsel]

Second if has is not, first makes sure datetime is in wanted format. The problem was None, not datetime