should I just fuck it and delete the manjaro
#ot2-the-original-pubsta
regal jetty
tardy stag
like this: c: and d: are Windows drive letters. Do you have one hard drive in your computer or 2?
mint lodge
That's up to you dude
regal jetty
trying to dual boot but im more lost than …idk im just lost
tardy stag
if you have 1, and linux is on it already, you will need to partition the drive before installing windows
tardy stag
is the one with linux on it plugged in?
mint lodge
Okay, are they both SSDs?
regal jetty
I know my linux is on C: because the 100gb is used up
they’re both plugged in
one is fast, the 100gb C: and the D: is slow
hdd or whatever
mint lodge
Drive 0 is probably Linux
tardy stag
how large is your linux drive?
regal jetty
possible
tardy stag
when you are in linux?
regal jetty
how large is your linux drive?
100gb
oh
12gb left
it ran out of space so I deleted crap
I think im going to go to windows, get rid of linux, then go back and dual boot from windows onto linux. How does that sound
tardy stag
ok so drive 0 partition 1 is your efi partition probably, and drive 0 partition 1 is your main linux partition
regal jetty
So instead of dual booting windows from linux i do the opposite
mint lodge
If you actually want to dual boot, I would recommend using diskpart from the Windows recovery command line, clean the disk entirely (assuming there's no data on it), then installing Linux again
regal jetty
If you actually want to dual boot, I would recommend using `diskpart` from the W...
yeah ima do that
tardy stag
yes it is actually easier to install Linux next to an already installed Windows
mint lodge
yes it is actually easier to install Linux next to an already installed Windows
So much this
regal jetty
im pressing format
tardy stag
grub automatically detects Windows and works around it, and also Windows wipes stuff from Linux when it's installed sometimes
mint lodge
grub works so much better when Windows is installed first
mint lodge
Why are you wiping that
tardy stag
Yeah you'll need to clean it first
might be easier to do in linux tho
tardy stag
might be easier to do in linux tho
depends if you are better with cli or gui i guess
tardy stag
tru but i really don't know windows cli commands
regal jetty
from here what the hell do I do
tardy stag
if you do feel free. or google.
mint lodge
shift + f10?
simple pecan
ah i see you guys got it working
regal jetty
regal jetty
ah i see you guys got it working
nah, we said fuck linux and im gonna boot linux from windows instead of vice versa
mint lodge
diskpart
select disk 0
clean
exit
simple pecan
ah gotcha haha
hazy laurel
grub automatically detects Windows and works around it, and also Windows wipes s...
Only if you enable the OS prober, which usually not installed by default
Enabled*
regal jetty
mint lodge
Except when it is and you give yourself a bad day
hazy laurel
nah, we said fuck linux and im gonna boot linux from windows instead of vice ver...
What'd you try out?
mint lodge
Nice! Now try to install Windows on that disk
regal jetty
it still shows
tardy stag
Only if you enable the OS prober, which usually not installed by default
I don't know about that, I know on Ubuntu it does all that automatically but I'm sure you could google how to install Manjaro next to windows
regal jetty
it shows that for them all
mint lodge
Back out to the beginning of the install media and go back in
hazy laurel
I... Have a strong hatred for Manjaro
mint lodge
Well apparently they were
using the worst possible arch based distro that amplifies problems and breakages by breaking things more and their own way
regal jetty
hazah
hazy laurel
Undoubtedly one of the worst distributions, but I'm not equipped to argue at the moment lol
mint lodge
Hell yeah
hazy laurel
damn everyones hating on manjaro
It's not without reason, though
tardy stag
one minute your ssd is only 100 gb
regal jetty
just so you guys know, I tried fedora, debian, ubuntu 5 or 6 times and it broke every time, and then finally manjaro
tardy stag
and you are installing windows on the entire thing?
regal jetty
and you are installing windows on the entire thing?
I thought I was supposed to
tardy stag
you can partition off a small part for the root directory of your linux install so it will run fast too
mint lodge
You can shrink the Windows partition later
tardy stag
linux needs less space
hazy laurel
If you're having both Ubuntu and Debian break, one can only assume PEBKAC
regal jetty
If you're having both Ubuntu and Debian break, one can only assume PEBKAC
pebkac? and no, only ubuntu broke
mint lodge
Yeah they'll only need like 25GB for Linux
regal jetty
i just disliked debian
hazy laurel
pebkac? and no, only ubuntu broke
Problem exists between keyboard and chair
mint lodge
Problem exists between keyboard and chair
regal jetty
probably does
hazy laurel
Lol
regal jetty
with how confused I am right now
hazy laurel
Ubuntu is notorious for being easy to use and stable
Manjaro is known for the complete opposite but that's not what it advertises
tardy stag
nvm recommended size for windows c drive is like 100GB
regal jetty
Ubuntu is notorious for being easy to use and stable
nah mate, I definitely did nothing wrong, ubunutu is just shit - I tried it so many times, and it just said like ‘installation failed’ and whatnot
tardy stag
you can probably get away with less, but you will have to be careful with updates and delete the old versions
and put absolutely everything on D:/
regal jetty
on a seperate note, anyone know any ways to get a window token?
hazy laurel
nah mate, I definitely did nothing wrong, ubunutu is just shit - I tried it so m...
If Manjaro worked and not Ubuntu, there's no doubt they you probably did something wrong or your hardware is too new
hazy laurel
on a seperate note, anyone know any ways to get a window token?
You buy a license
mint lodge
Whenever Windows is installed and set up, press windows key + R and type diskmgmt.msc
Right click the largest partition on the C:/ drive and click "shrink"
mint lodge
on a seperate note, anyone know any ways to get a window token?
Are we talking the right way or the cheap way
regal jetty
If Manjaro worked and not Ubuntu, there's no doubt they you probably did somethi...
my friend said they had the same problem with ubuntu
mint lodge
You buy a license
That's no fun
regal jetty
You buy a license
I had legit windows before, but the key on the back of my pc rubbed off
hazy laurel
I had legit windows before, but the key on the back of my pc rubbed off
Generally it's tied to your motherboard
regal jetty
Are we talking the right way or the cheap way
cheap preferably, im sure windows gets enough income and ive paid for it before
mint lodge
It should be tied to either the motherboard or a Microsoft account
regal jetty
Generally it's tied to your motherboard
there was a product key on the back of my pc when I bought it, no joke
mint lodge
Right, but it licenses using motherboard hardwareID with their activation servers
I'm sure it might have
hazy laurel
my friend said they had the same problem with ubuntu
Idk what to tell you, but I'm sure the error is not Ubuntus. Unless you were using non-LTS, you should've been fine
mint lodge
I haven't seen a Windows product key sticker on a unit since Windows 7
regal jetty
when I go on my pc ill link the pc build
it started with some ryzen cpu but i changed around the specs a bit
mint lodge
Is it a custom build?
mint lodge
Fat rip
regal jetty
product key?
hazy laurel
Sounds like this computer was probably not too modern
mint lodge
Lmao it's a rite of passage
hazy laurel
I'm sure like 99% of the people here have prrbuiltd
regal jetty
Sounds like this computer was probably not too modern
it was like £500 when I bought it, but ive changed the specs around
hazy laurel
it was like £500 when I bought it, but ive changed the specs around
I mean in terms of age
I'm guessing it's not exactly new
regal jetty
i dont know
hazy laurel
Hm
tardy stag
you can use win10 without a code you know
regal jetty
ew
mint lodge
There are registry fixes for the product activation watermark
tardy stag
if you really want to you can modify the registry to remove the watermark iirc
mint lodge
:)
regal jetty
eh
Hey sick
guess what
I dont need a product key
oh wait
nvm
im stupud
that never happened
shh
it locks the taskbar
this is aids
keen burrow
wait why are you doing this
keen burrow
don't.. do stuff just because someone tells you to without trying to understand why
i am absolutely not saying gdubs has ill intends, but you should be careful in general to not fall for scams and stuff like that
mint lodge
It's not malicious. Read back through the thread if you're interested
Good advice, of course
What we're doing is shrinking the C:/ partition by 25000 MB to give enough space to have a small Linux installation
keen burrow
that's cool
mint lodge
i am absolutely not saying gdubs has ill intends, but you should be careful in g...
I'll be more forthcoming in the future, I know this could be bad lol
keen burrow
good luck with your install!
mint lodge
:)
keen burrow
I'll be more forthcoming in the future, I know this could be bad lol
T'is all good
night needle
@jovial island You DM'd my other account and I am unable to respond now ^w^;
jovial island
<@456226577798135808> You DM'd my other account and I am unable to respond now ^...
oh yea
i just changed server privacy defaults
whoops
night needle
... and how did you see those channels?
jovial island
... and how did you see those channels?
im currently undercover
regal jetty
@mint lodge which is the smallest partition in the screenshot? i dont wanna break anything
mint lodge
The C:/ drive is the one you'll want to shrink
mint lodge
Yes, the C: itself.
Then refer to the screenshot I posted and replace the highlighted box with 25000
mint lodge
I dont get why I have 3 things in disk 0
The first is an EFI partition that your BIOS finds and says "wow I boot from this", and it has instructions to boot to Windows
The second is a recovery partition
jovial island
yep thats what im sayin
regal jetty
lol
regal jetty
ah lol
mint lodge
Orders of magnitude matter lol
regal jetty
you have one fat ass drive
regal jetty
alright I shrunk it
so
when I dual boot
I select that part
and now I stick everything I download on D:
oops
mint lodge
Well, you still need to create installation media for whatever Linux you want to install
regal jetty
yeah, on my usb
mint lodge
and now I stick everything I download on D:
Yes
mint lodge
I would recommend using Manjaro Linux out of pure spite for that one person
mint lodge
Lmao yeah I'm just salty
regal jetty
that dude who kicked us out of the help channel lol
mint lodge
Personally I use an LTS Ubuntu 18.04 or MXLinux
regal jetty
what a twat
mint lodge
Dude for REAL
regal jetty
violating rule 7 - bro shut up
mint lodge
Then the discord mod was a discord mod lmao
regal jetty
there are so many available help channels
mint lodge
They're created on demand!
I could make one right now to have help picking a kitten if I wanted
regal jetty
it effects no one, "i wanna see python", scroll to the next fuckin help channel
mint lodge
Some people power trip on arbitrary rules
It's crazy to see the codependency people put on social interactions like that
Like tell me you're 14 without telling me you're 14
hidden kernel
Our rules are there for a reason. We can't accommodate any and all technology help with our help channel system, and that's not what the server is for.
glad quest
Our rules are there for a reason. We can't accommodate any and all technology he...
Well to be fair the person could have minded their business. They were minimodding a bit too
hidden kernel
informing other people of the rules and pinging moderators isn't minimodding
mint lodge
I'm unsure how the conversation was resource-intensive enough to qualify that level of response out of someone with no interest in the problem
regal jetty
informing other people of the rules and pinging moderators isn't minimodding
rUle 7 hE iS tRYiNg tO fIX hIs cOmPUteR
mint lodge
And I do understand that this server is named "Python" not "Fix my Linux install"
regal jetty
we moved anyway
tribal tinsel
Aren't we in offtopic? 
category is called "general/offtopic" for a reason, doesn't it?
regal jetty
Aren't we in offtopic? <:pithink:652247559909277706> category is called "general...
it was a help channel
#help-cookie if you want a good read
tribal tinsel
Oh
hidden kernel
to be clear, @regal jetty, we expect you to follow our rules and not insult other members for trying to inform you of them
regal jetty
mhm
mint lodge
Would love it if someone would just admit that that person was being super anal for no reason other than to be super anal.
mint lodge
Guess not lol
steel eagle
Like tell me you're 14 without telling me you're 14
This is some serious irony
jovial island
Would love it if someone would just admit that that person was being super anal ...
Uh what
mint lodge
This is some serious irony
Sorry, over here using the worst possible arch based distro that amplifies problems and breakages by breaking things more and their own way
Some people are insufferable. Its ironic you're talking about irony because you obviously don't understand the concept
civic wharf
those people are full of it
hazy laurel
I'm so confused
steel eagle
😂
fluid plank
Sorry, over here using the worst possible arch based distro that amplifies probl...
Manwaru?
proper python
hey guys
did you know
that in terms of water based pokemon
vaporeon
is the most
fluid plank
imma just lightning bolt u, since youre a water based pokemon
fluid plank
echo fern
since when is there 4 more eeveelutions
lapis plinth
dusky cliff
eevee evolves to charmeleon??
i may not have watched it in like 5 years but im p sure thats now how it went
ah yes of course
echo fern
espeon: 😿
dusky cliff
lemon evolved from eevee, confirmed
echo fern
almost all of them, actually
keen burrow
Wait, charmeleon and empoleon?
keen burrow
yes
echo flower
vaporeon looks edible to some people
👀
and finneon too
i dont think evee evolves into fish
or birds
tribal tinsel
Wait, charmeleon and empoleon?
This is a joke on all eeveelutions ending with -eon, so they added all -eon pokemon at the time to it :3
And cc @echo flower ^
echo flower
ah i see
carmine herald
This is a joke on all eeveelutions ending with -eon, so they added all -eon poke...
yeah but did you know that vaporeon is the most....
tribal tinsel
yeah but did you know that vaporeon is the most....
I literally commented the pic as the reply to it
carmine herald
echo flower
yeah but did you know that vaporeon is the most....
most what?
carmine herald
most what?
the most........
echo flower
most what smh
carmine herald
the most ||featured in tenor gifs you can check that by yourself by looking vaporeon up||
echo flower
dont see anything
daring jay
<@!788119126450765844> https://twitter.com/FerrousSystems/status/145112464216553...
Rust is taking over the world
fluid plank
Rust is taking over the world
more like LLVM
daring jay
Well yeah
fluid plank
Julia Rust Zig are the LLVM gang
keen burrow
This is a joke on all eeveelutions ending with -eon, so they added all -eon poke...
lol okay
fluid plank
Rust is taking over the world
btw do u plan to run RedoxOS in a vm?
placid flume
a = input('give a number: ');
b = input('give another number: ');
c = input('give another number: ');
d = input('give another number: ');
e = input('give another number: ');
f = input('give another number: ');
v = [a b c d e f];
disp(v);
if (a<b & b<c & c<d & d<e & e<f)
fprintf('YES'); %growing
else
fprintf('NO'); %one number is not higher than previous
end
is there a easy way to make length of numbers n which can be decided by an input('give length of vector: ')?
mainly looking for the logic at the if function
this is made in matlab by the way 😅
daring jay
btw do u plan to run RedoxOS in a vm?
I don't know
Sounds fun enough
Can you do that on windows?
fluid plank
in a vm? idk.
im not on windows
https://www.redox-os.org/ probably i will try to in the future. they give an instruction on how to run on a vm
daring jay
Ok
fluid plank
as for now, the OS is still a proof of concept. but I think in the next decade where i already have 3 divorces and 4 children, I can see this becoming a daily driver
daring jay
Can you do that on windows?
Hmm, maybe this will run on wsl with the proper added packages
median blade
https://www.redox-os.org/ probably i will try to in the future. they give an ins...
oooooo
normal quartz
jovial island
aight who is dracula and why does he need my help
jovial island
oh no,meesa in danger
versed river
odd sphinx
yeah but did you know that vaporeon is the most....
ayoo 😳
fluid plank
i have an idea of what this otn means
you ask help too much u never learned anythinh, u ask help too much it became a habit, thus a help vampire (dracula)
keen burrow
Yup
regal jetty
are these channels riddles or something
regal jetty
mhmmm
keen burrow
You have to figure all of them though
odd sphinx
yes
keen burrow
Of you do you may as well get ownership of the server who knows
odd sphinx
all 4,932
odd sphinx
eh
close enough
kinda expected more than 2k
but alright
theres only so many days in a year
echo flower
we have a 1/1837th chance of getting aboo-eats-bananas
keen burrow
!otn s aboo-eat
clever salmonBOT
keen burrow
Sus
echo flower
oof
odd sphinx
sad
dusky cliff
we have a 1/1837th chance of getting aboo-eats-bananas
fun fact 1/1837 is the ratio of the mass of electron to mass of proton
odd sphinx
fun fact 1/1837 is the ratio of the mass of electron to mass of proton
no
goddamnit
it is
fuck
dusky cliff
\😎
odd sphinx
me
dusky cliff
and me
echo flower
and maybe me
keen burrow
fun fact 1/1837 is the ratio of the mass of electron to mass of proton
.wa size of an electron vs size of a proton
rustic harborBOT
keen burrow
So like
dusky cliff
mass 
keen burrow
The ratio is actually gigantic
I know, I was comparing to the size
The electrons are heavy as heck
odd sphinx
so hsp is wrong
odd sphinx
u said 1837
dusky cliff
that was mass
dusky cliff
sure
slate leaf
Looks fine, but its 1080p
odd sphinx
good enough
jovial island
I thought that's the most used resolution
1920x1080
is it worth the price? 
dammit
wheat rock
1920x1080
1080p is the norm for a 24 inch or smaller monitor
all i wanted to check was the panel
IPS is the da best + 1ms response time ,so cool gaming + work combo
jovial island
lesgo
night needle
so who makes the off-topics
It is randomized
night needle
"standard ratio"? "widescreen"?
... there is more than just 4:3 and 16:9 ... there is also 16:10 and such
EDIT: Found this on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_display_resolution#Overview_by_vertical_resolution_and_aspect_ratio
slate leaf
Well, its randomly selected from a list of about 1500 channel names that were added by mods for fun
jovial island
"standard ratio"? "widescreen"?
... there is more than just 4:3 and 16:9 ... the...
okay... ig?
languid osprey
@sturdy relic Hi, I'm home from school now. You said you wanted to learn rust, I suggest starting with the official rust book, https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/. Its pretty in depth, it'll take you through the basics, up to more advanced concepts as well. Rust by example https://doc.rust-lang.org/rust-by-example/ is also a great resource, it shows different code snippet examples you can reference. Learning rust with all too many linked lists is also pretty solid as a resource https://rust-unofficial.github.io/too-many-lists/. To install rust, I recommend using rustup, https://rustup.rs/, It's a simple shell script. Theres also this, https://www.rust-lang.org/tools/install, which talks you through more stuff related to installation, and also directs you to rustup.
daring jay
I second this recommendation of The Book, it has everything you need to know to start.
languid osprey
https://www.youtube.com/c/JonGjengset/videos theres also this youtube channel
languid osprey
perhaps
ionic locust
rusts (fungi) -> rust (lang) -> rustaceans -> crustaceans -> crab -> ferris
carmine herald
rusts (fungi) -> rust (lang) -> rustaceans -> crustaceans -> crab -> ferris
so rust is a femboy, understood
fluid plank
https://c.tenor.com/M1s7SStHdBsAAAAM/felix-argyle-felix-anime.gif
trapped
real forum
no bad harmful stereotype, don't reduce ppl to a fetish thats no bueno
For once I'm going to have to agree with starcy on this one
median blade
rust is named after a fungus but why is it a crab
fungus?
carmine herald
For once I'm going to have to agree with starcy on this one
pff you know I'm based now go to sleep
tawdry fog
Any recommendations for a laptop for simple development in the $400-$600 range
echo flower
rust is named after a fungus but why is it a crab
no rust is ferric oxide
you might be talking about red rust of tea
which is a fungus
fluid plank
@echo flower
The language grew out of a personal project begun in 2006 by Mozilla employee Graydon Hoare,[13] who stated that the project was possibly named after the rust family of fungi.
echo flower
wtf
dim root
<@!172395097705414656> Hi, I'm home from school now. You said you wanted to lear...
Weee thankyou, even I started rust 3 days back.
odd sphinx
python
wheat rock
i think i didn't learn it
carmine herald
i hate societal conventions for dress codes :<
can we get rid of them already
free the boobah
dumb double standards
why is gigachad socially accepted and safe for work
i hate it in this planet
odd sphinx
is there a gigachad guy who goes to work in underwear?
carmine herald
well yeah probably an underwear model have u seen those dudes
carmine herald
anyway free the boobah its arbitrary and dumb
odd sphinx
sure
proper python
is there a polite way to tell someone to shut the fuck up?
dusky cliff
"kindly keep your buccal cavity closed"
odd sphinx
^
daring jay
"please stop talking"
No no no, it's "with all due respect... shut the fuck up"
odd sphinx
im aware
dusky cliff
lol
hazy laurel
zee is all aware
odd sphinx
i am
shrewd lance
With all due respect,
if I hear another bell ring from your station, your tooth train will depart
echo flower
with the required admiration for a figure as great as you, please shut the fuck up or i will send my army of stans to cancel you
zealous hazel
with the required admiration for a figure as great as you, please shut the fuck ...
lolololo
man how much i hate stans
echo flower
that's definitely a way to do it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
rare moat
@ornate pebble you will get it eventually if you decide to venture down that path.
who knows maybe you will become like me and just use C. 🥴
echo flower
why are you trying to convert someone to c
this weirdly sounds like cult recruitment
idk why
wicked hollow
@vapid flare re: "C++ is stronger", that depends on what you mean by "stronger". C++ is more expressive than C - it lets you code at a higher level. That's a strength. But C++ also is much more complex than C, and it's much more difficult to understand what a line of code will do at a glance in C++ than in C. That's a weakness.
rare moat
this weirdly sounds like cult recruitment
because it is
vapid flare
<@!856787473367040040> re: "C++ is stronger", that depends on what you mean by "...
hmmm but all the games are programmed in c++ including the software and the robots and stuff
rare moat
yeah, because C++ has the flexibility of being a low level language, but not being as painful to write stuff in C with.
robots are more often written in C though, i believe.
vapid flare
robots are more often written in C though, i believe.
hmmm? but they're in C++
rare moat
this is probably because of C's size.
ornate pebble
With all due respect,
if I hear another bell ring from your station, your tooth ...
Everyone is getting their creativity testosterone level up.
rare moat
you can write a damn small C compiler but a C++ compiler is an absolute monster.
ornate pebble
<@!770957214289625119> you will get it eventually if you decide to venture down ...
Thank you 😊
rare moat
i am not saying that C++ is a bad language, but do recognize that there is no single 'strongest' language in computing.
wheat aurora
microcontrollers and robots are typically written in C, you need to save every byte you can sometimes
wicked hollow
games are usually written in C++ rather than C, though, yeah. That's mostly due to availability of libraries, I think - there are very good C++ game libraries.
ornate pebble
who knows maybe you will become like me and just use C. 🥴
And.....I didn't see that coming.
rare moat
one of us, one of us
vapid flare
this is probably because of C's size.
wdym by size?
rare moat
like, the size of the compiler or binaries.
one second let me write a comparison.
(or even memory usage)
wicked hollow
and the complexity of implementing a C compiler for a new hardware architecture, versus the complexity of implementing a new C++ compiler.
echo fern
Rust can achieve about the size of C binaries, AFAIK (just needs a -C prefer-dynamic, since Rust likes to link statically by default). The normal size, that is - I don't know how they compare when you try to squeeze every kilobyte of size out of both.
wicked hollow
memory usage is the big one, though, for why C (or C++ that mostly uses the C subset) is usually used on microcontrollers. A lot of the more expressive C++ features, like exception handling and object oriented programming with virtual dispatch, cost extra space and memory at runtime.
round moss
did you compile with optimalisations?
wicked hollow
yeah, streams - and in particular locales - in C++ are crazy slow and inefficient.
wicked hollow
I expect that won't change much, assuming in C++ you used std::cout and in C you used printf
wicked hollow
C would be smaller if you used puts 🙂
rare moat
#include <stdio.h>
int main() {
printf("%s", "Hello, world!\n");
}
alright boys. time to play a game.
who can print "Hello, World" with the smallest memory footprint in C++.
🥴
wicked hollow
puts("Hello, world") 😉
ornate pebble
print("hello world")
ornate pebble
Hello world is my specialty
wicked hollow
since C++ is mostly a superset of C (it's a superset of C as of the time that C++ was created, though they've diverged now), you can usually write exactly the same code as you'd write in C in a C++ program and have it work fine.
rare moat
^
round moss
long long write(int, const void*, unsigned long long);
int main() {write(1,"hello world",11);}
```C, 0 bytes of allocationdon't ask about portability
wicked hollow
😄
round moss
can remove the declaration if you are ok with a warning
wicked hollow
what warning?
round moss
implicit declaration
rare moat
ooooo long long
wicked hollow
ah. You could just add the #include, heh
wicked hollow
I heard a quote once that said something along the lines of "Everyone agrees that C++ is a great language if you just avoid the bad parts, but no one agrees on which parts are bad" or something like that.
rare moat
C++ moment
round moss
though in C++ ```cpp
cat test.cc
#include <cstdio>
int main() {std::puts("hello world");}
also does 0 allocs
wicked hollow
C++ doesn't link implicitly with unix libs, sadly
that's not the problem, the problem is that you missed the extern "C"
round moss
ah, that would do it
round moss
yup, works now
wicked hollow
std::cin >> x >> y >> z is much, much, much slower than sscanf("%d %d %d", &x, &y, &z)
C++'s streams are a complete mess in terms of complexity.
shrewd lance
`std::cin >> x >> y >> z` is much, much, much slower than `sscanf("%d %d %d", &x...
What if you unsync them?
wicked hollow
better, but still bad
C++'s locale stuff - for figuring out which characters are digits allowed to be part of an int and which aren't, or whatever - is really quite slow.
shrewd lance
ah, fair
jovial island
what'd be the usecase for using Raw SQL over ORM?
I'm trying to think of some circumstance, where I'd chose to write raw SQL queries over something like Entity Framework (ORM)
round moss
if you need good query performance, an experienced hand writing one will beat an ORM
elfin vine
If the people reading your code know SQL, then an ORM may be in their way
If the people reading your code doesn't know SQL, then raw SQL may be hard to write
I prefer raw SQL, if someone doesn't know SQL they can just use an ORM and then copy the query or something.
Besides, either you bite your tongue and learn an ORM, or you bite your tongue and learn SQL
daring jay
I know basic SQL, I just prefer ORMs typically
elfin vine
There's a learning curve to both really
elfin vine
I know basic SQL, I just prefer ORMs typically
I find them inexpressive, I know exactly what I want to do but then I need to somehow figure out how to tell the ORM how to generate what I already know
I also think it encourages doing everything in Python and not trying to do as much as possible in SQL
daring jay
I find them inexpressive, I know exactly what I want to do but then I need to so...
Ah fair enough
I don't know all that much SQL, so ORMs can typically do what I want
elfin vine
I don't know all that much SQL, so ORMs can typically do what I want
If you would take the effort it took to learn that ORM and put it into SQL you would be decent enough to work through it
The majority of the time you're just doing simple SELECTs and WHEREs
jovial island
I prefer raw SQL, if someone doesn't know SQL they can just use an ORM and then ...
I know both, I just know for a fact I'll be significantly more productive in ORM
elfin vine
Maybe a JOIN somewhere
jovial island
i know even a bit more advanced SQL as i had 2 subjects dedicated to ONLY sql
but it'd just be painful to get the data into a program using Raw SQL, say in C#
i'd have to manually convert the data to appropriate type
just a mess all-in-all
in fact, i've never written raw SQL inside a C# program
all raw SQL i did was done either via CLI tool or MySQL workbench
and wasn't meant to be projected into a program
elfin vine
I know both, I just know for a fact I'll be significantly more productive in ORM
Because of the models, or the actual query building?
jovial island
as in
if i want to store like users
I'd 1st need to make a table manually, and then I'd need to parse info of each user to appropriate SQL query
whereas ORM does it for me
i can just have user1, instance of User
and it'll just go into DB with ORM
with raw SQL I'd need something like
create database (insert appropriate form and types);
and then insert into table values (*parse from object to something SQL supports*)
just a nightmare
- ORM protects from SQL injections
whereas raw SQL I'd potentially need to manually check
just an awful waste of time and effort
raw joins were kinda fun tho, not gonna lie
sinful sun
Its a waste if youre bad at it, sure
elfin vine
and then `insert into table values (*parse from object to something SQL supports...
Yeah that's when creating
elfin vine
whereas raw SQL I'd potentially need to manually check
No, modern database systems have good ways to pass variables so whatever library you're using to connect will pass that on
Because you use a library right? And not just... Like a TCP/IP + TLS socket
jovial island
i mean
what library can help transfer an object to a SQL string?
👀
runtime object
sturdy relic
@languid osprey
sturdy relic
let me see
languid osprey
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sturdy relic
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rustic harborBOT
sturdy relic
<@!172395097705414656> Hi, I'm home from school now. You said you wanted to lear...
.bm
i love the bookmark feature
languid osprey
It's quite useful
languid osprey
Lol
ornate scroll
<@!172395097705414656> Hi, I'm home from school now. You said you wanted to lear...
.bm
rustic harborBOT
ornate scroll
<@!172395097705414656> Hi, I'm home from school now. You said you wanted to lear...
.bm
it worked :D
back to no dms :shudder:
sour cosmos
@hard seal here I guess?
hard seal
ok
hard seal
<@!875901558313877554> here I guess?
Alright, so what is the answe r,
sour cosmos
but yeah, it should have a Startup tab
hard seal
kkk
sour cosmos
if you don't see it, expand it
sour cosmos
the Startup tab in the task manager
hard seal
let me see
sour cosmos
(I think that you can expand the task manager? not sure)
fewer details x more details
sour cosmos
yes
hard seal
Alright then ?
sour cosmos
click n Disable
sour cosmos
yeah, bottom-right
hard seal
Some things I don't know, like Java Update Scheduler will that affect my pc performances ?
I don't even program with Java but it was preinstalled when I bought th epc
pc*
sour cosmos
perhaps slightly but you should keep it up to date for safety reasons I think
sour cosmos
no clue
daring jay
And there are 3 blank files called **Program**, can I disable them ?
If they came by default, I wouldn't touch them
Especially if you don't know what they do
hard seal
If they came by default, I wouldn't touch them
I don't find Discord
Discord auto open everytime when I turn on pc, but I don't find it in start up's tab
daring jay
And that means you should be disabling unnamed files why?
hard seal
And that means you should be disabling unnamed files why?
? I just want to turn off that trash of discord everytime auto opens
daring jay
All I'm saying is, find out what those files are before you disable them
How, I don't know
hard seal
no, about discord
daring jay
Does clicking on them do anything? Like open them?
hard seal
Of course Windows
daring jay
Which one?
hard seal
Windows 10
daring jay
Ohh, "Update" is Discord
Here's my thing on win11
In Settings
That icon gives it away
visual slate
You can also disable in discord's windows settings
daring jay
Bu Github didn't make Discord ?
That doesn't mean anything important, I don't think
daring jay
How you knew ?
That's the Discord Canary icon, which I use
hard seal
You can also disable in discord's windows settings
So Update is Discord right ?
daring jay
Update is the Discord Updater, yes
visual slate
idk bout that all I know is that in settings in the discord app itself you can turn startup off
hard seal
Alrigh, I'll try when I turn on the PC next time
daring jay
That opens up the Discord client when you turn on your pc
hard seal
Alright, thanks guys.
daring jay
My stuff is getting botted
ornate scroll
wtf lmfao
daring jay
I've reported it internally, dw
languid osprey
OK
ornate scroll
so if i add a reaction.. it bots it?
shadow elk
hmmmmmmm
languid osprey
Hmmmmmmm
ornate scroll
hMMMMMMM
jovial island
oh, here too?
ornate scroll
ooh halloween in 8 days
languid osprey
Huh
jovial island
i need instagram copyright site can you help me
shadow elk
i need instagram copyright site can you help me
wdym by 'instagram copyright site'?
jovial island
wdym by 'instagram copyright site'?
can you help
jovial island
I don't understand what you're asking about...
oh i have to open a site
or something like practice
shadow elk
oh i have to open a site
or something like practice
I don't undrestand what you want. What is "instagram copyright site"? I understand the individual words, but not together.
ornate scroll
right-
jovial island
thepiratebay? 😂
ornate scroll
!rule 5
clever salmonBOT
ornate scroll
right
jovial island
ohh sory
ornate scroll
fix terror is typing
shadow elk
depends on where you want it to be considered illegal
ornate scroll
spoopy
jovial island
depends on where you want it to be considered illegal
shadow elk
Instagram isn't a country 🙂
ornate scroll
XD
shadow elk
yet
jovial island
Turkey
you want a fake instagram lookalike page with a similar looking domain, in order to do malicious things to visitors? @jovial island
ornate scroll
fix terror what r u planning
jovial island
you want a fake instagram lookalike page with a similar looking domain, in order...
Yes
ornate scroll
okkkk
jovial island
you want a fake instagram lookalike page with a similar looking domain, in order...
ty
jovial island
shadow elk
Making a phising website is a big no-no
jovial island
Making a phising website is a big no-no
no
ornate scroll
cringe tbh
jovial island
I just want to learn
ornate scroll
"just want to learn"
daring jay
Maybe you could find a less malicious way to learn?
jovial island
you're lucky @shadow elk is in good mood, I've seen people get banned for much less than this 😂
jovial island
Maybe you could find a less malicious way to learn?
mhm
ornate scroll
i think they arent getting banned cuz they are confused
jovial island
you're lucky <@!461097636791844865> is in good mood, I've seen people get banned...
😂
hardly much to be confused about
shadow elk
I am confused
ornate scroll
xd
jovial island
hardly much to be confused about
can you help me
jovial island
_I_ am confused
why şlasdkşsadkasd
jovial island
can you help me
I can but I don't intend to
shadow elk
@jovial island Can you explain what you're trying to do?
jovial island
I can but I don't intend to
pls
ornate scroll
they arent allowed to either
jovial island
meh
ornate scroll
phishing sites are illegal
ornate scroll
right
jovial island
I can but I don't intend to
Can you explain for me, I can't explain
ornate scroll
they can help you but its a bad thing to make so they dont want to help you
trying to make it as simple as possible :\
jovial island
I mean, I have a job so I can actually put a value for my time 😂
ornate scroll
omg an adult :0
jovial island
surpass my wage and I'll consider 🙂
ornate scroll
i aspire to be an adult
jovial island
don't you have time?
that being said paying / arranging paid projects is not legal here
as in, this server
shadow elk
@jovial island Can you explain what you're trying to do? We have no idea what you're doing
ornate scroll
point is elit, ur most likely not going to find help here for what u have said so far
(being an illegal site)
jovial island
<@456226577798135808> Can you explain what you're trying to do? We have no idea ...
Either there are fake sites on Instagram or I want to learn how to code them
jovial island
<@456226577798135808> Can you explain what you're trying to do? We have no idea ...
he already said it, he wishes to make a website that looks like instagram, for purposes to phish victims
he already confirmed that
shadow elk
Either there are fake sites on Instagram or I want to learn how to code them
What do you mean by "fake sites"? Do you want to make a phishing website?
jovial island
What do you mean by "fake sites"? Do you want to make a phishing website?
I don't want to apply I just want to do
shadow elk
what?
jovial island
so i don't want to make people victims i just want to make a site
ornate scroll
what-
shadow elk
You won't get help with that, as I said. We can't know whether you're going to use it for phishing or not.
jovial island
what-
do you mean to say, you want to make a phishing site, but you intend to only run it on your device so there would be no victims?
off is there no one to help me
shadow elk
If you want to copy the design of a website for education, well, then you should just look for resources on web development, like freecodecamp.
Turkey blocks stuff on the internet left and right, you can probably make an illegal website just by smashing your keyboard.
ornate scroll
lmfao sneezing on ur keyboard
patent valley
im trying to add a footer with date and time time stamp.... can someone help me out
embed.set_footer(text=':copyright:Precise Stock Alerts INC 2021',icon_url="https://i.imgur.com/NFxAdMb.png")
daring jay
I don't want to apply I just want to do
Then? Make a non-malicious site for fun, not a malicious one.
jovial island
Then? Make a non-malicious site for fun, not a malicious one.
yess
daring jay
Like a portfolio, or a chat app
daring jay
What becomes a room?
jovial island
What becomes a room?
soory
so you're saying you want to learn how to make a website?
is that correct?
yes
daring jay
If you want to learn web dev, the odin project is great
ornate scroll
traversy media is good to learn html and css
daring jay
jovial island
do you prefer videos or books?
jovial island
okey ty
patent valley
im trying to add a footer with date and time time stamp.... can someone help me ...
anyone?
patent valley
correct like shown in the screen shot
jovial island
soooo, why would you not replace the text argument of the function..?
patent valley
so im completley noob when it comes to coding... im kinda shocked i got as far as doing the footer
shrewd lance
Hm
daring jay
!d datetime.datetime.strptime
clever salmonBOT
daring jay
@shrewd lance It's a method on the datetime.datetime class, hence why it didn't show up
patent valley
embed.set_footer(text=':copyright:Precise Stock Alerts INC 2021',icon_url="https://i.imgur.com/NFxAdMb.png%50")
this is my current footer i just want to add date and time when the msg was sent
jovial island
embed.set_footer(text=f':copyright:Precise Stock Alerts INC 2021 {date.today().strftime("%B %d, %Y %H:%M:%S")}',icon_url="https://i.imgur.com/NFxAdMb.png")```try this?
on top of document:
from datetime import date```ok the date popped up but no time
jovial island
date_formatted=date.today().strftime("%B %d, %Y")
time_formatted=date.today().strftime("%H:%M:%S")
embed.set_footer(text=f':copyright:Precise Stock Alerts INC 2021 {date_formatted} {time_formatted}',icon_url="https://i.imgur.com/NFxAdMb.png")```like this?
you can look at various formats here
@patent valley ```py
now = datetime.now()
date_formatted=date.today().strftime("%B %d, %Y")
time_formatted=datetime.now().strftime("%H:%M:%S")
embed.set_footer(text=f':copyright:Precise Stock Alerts INC 2021 {date_formatted} {time_formatted}',icon_url="https://i.imgur.com/NFxAdMb.png")```
jovial island
@patent valley ```py
now = datetime.now()
date_formatted=date.today().strftime("%B %d, %Y")
time_formatted=datetime.now().strftime("%H:%M:%S")
embed.set_footer(text=f':copyright:Precise Stock Alerts INC 2021 {date_formatted} {time_formatted}',icon_url="https://i.imgur.com/NFxAdMb.png")```
like this?
I'm a .NET Expert 😎
my python skills are rertarded 🤡
and I've got no intentions to work on them
patent valley
and I've got no intentions to work on them
haha OK IT WORKED! BUT ONE MORE THING 😢 its in military
lol
patent valley
stone me later
jovial island
patent valley
lol hey i get it... trust me i do, but its just one of those things that didnt stick with me... i mean im sure if i apply it ill learn it but, im already use to "standard"
lol
jovial island
this is gonna be a shocker but in EU, this is the standard
I asssume you're american
patent valley
i was born in europe
jovial island
because I've never heard of concept of AM / PM
patent valley
i moved to the us when i was 7
jovial island
either way, you could just modulo the clock with 12 😂
patent valley
lol i understand your point trust me... i think everyone should know both time's
but yeah
jovial island
i'm talking aboout solution
patent valley
lol
sinful sun
Is that a python repl? Why not use a c# repl 
i guess python is fundamentally superior
tawdry fog
unless you say 5am imma assume its 5pm
To build off this it depends on which one is a more normal sounding time e.g. "lets meet at 1" you would assume 13:00 but if you said "lets meet at 9" you'd assume 9:00
tawdry fog
Currently upgrading to windows 11, I'm kinda scared I havent taken a look @ it yet.
Cyall when it's done
omfg I gotta go to bed I almost just started a csgo comp match
I also just realized im an idiot, I like opening files to read the data it has and I just opened a file named "SetupDiag.exe.config" its a file seemingly for the windows 11 setup
I decided to take the risk by not backing up my stuff because I expect it is fairly low risk but I do stuff like that
slate leaf
Yeah if you are upgrading there is an installer
ornate scroll
did it work
tawdry fog
ok
im
good
I just got soo fking scared lmao
it froze on the screen "getting things read" "Do not turn off or unplug your PC"
And I had to power it off for me to be able to continue it was frozen for like 15 minutes on a screen that had an animation (which wasn't moving and was in a very blurry state thus showing it was frozen)
Incase anyone is wondering I don't have any idea how I feel about it lol
That being said everything feels slightly slower not much, just about maybe a 1/10th of a second but still noticeable
especially for alt-tabbing
limpid kite
echo flower
everything's snappy for me
that is when im not running teams discord opera with 40 tabs and minecraft
then it struggles
but that is understandable
tawdry fog
that is when im not running teams discord opera with 40 tabs and minecraft
I think what it is for me is there's seemingly a lot more animations in little areas that make it seems slower as it runs the animation
that being said back to windows 10 I go
jovial island
that being said back to windows 10 I go
Same. Just did yesterday. Also easier to use.
tawdry fog
After going back to windows 10 it is atleast 5x more responsive feeling.
odd sphinx
damn
jovial island
theres no point in even upgrading at this point - well the only benefit you get is rounded corners and better window snapping
fluid plank
theres no point in even upgrading at this point - well the only benefit you get ...
xD
accoorat
but they did say that windows 11 has optimization and performance improvements over windows 10
so hmm what is the truth
jovial island
but they did say that windows 11 has optimization and performance improvements o...
maybe it will in a year or so lol, from what ive read there are no improvements currently and amd chips will see a 15% reduction in performance because of a bug
worthy basin
Why are here Czech?
median blade
the amd issue has been solved supposedly
dusky cliff
theres no point in even upgrading at this point - well the only benefit you get ...
what about WSLg
median blade
there's more but people fixate on only the rounded corners for whatever reason
odd sphinx
lol
echo flower
lol
wtf why is the beta version behind
i dont remember getting that kind of prompt
so is the beta version behind stable
echo flower
so is the beta version *behind* stable
because we were updated on sep 16th
which is more than a month ago
brrrrr
preview update for .net?
bruh
fluid plank
maybe it will in a year or so lol, from what ive read there are no improvements ...
oh taht. yes 15% reduction on amd cpus because they dont have plans to improve AMD because intel partnered with windows during the development of win11
well theyre working on it
but might as well stick to windows 10 until it dies
jovial island
guys anyone here has a very good knowledge of nodeJS?
just ask your question
i'm working on an authentication project
i'm using sendgrid
timid crown
So since we have a filter for the link and it's auto-deleted, you decided to circumvent it?
jovial island
So since we have a filter for the link and it's auto-deleted, you decided to cir...
perhaps next time make the bot actually say why it was deleted? I just assumed all links aren't allowed
you can't assume I know all made up rules
when i run npm run dev it works when i run it in postman it stops and it gives me an error and i'm not even understanding why i'm getting that error
that are silently handled
timid crown
you can't assume I know all made up rules
Sure, you can ask in that case, instead of assuming it's fine to circumvent it
jovial island
I didn't think it was circumvention in 1st place...
because I had no reason to believe it was
but I guess you're not even reading my responses
jovial island
when i run npm run dev it works when i run it in postman it stops and it gives m...
you'd have better chances of getting an answer if you're able to provide the error itself
TypeError: {(intermediate value)(intermediate value)(intermediate value)(intermediate value)} is not a function<br> at exports.registerController
based on current knowledge, your error is likely related more specifically to sendgrid package, than to general node JS
okay i may have an idea about that
thank you
i'll see if it'll works
if it did thank you if it didn't i'll inform you
I hope it does, however the registerController object appears to not be in SendGrid's source code
based on my quick lookup on github
i'll check again in the sendgrid source code
and try to fix the problem
rancid fjord
WAKE UP YOU SLEEPING ZOMBIES
limber pollen
:rip:
rancid fjord
graveyard 101
tribal tinsel
hazy laurel
See? Graveyard.
Does a single grave make it a graveyard?
I'd think #python-discussion is a huge graveyard. so many gravegravegravepys
limber pollen
Does a single grave make it a graveyard?
Technically you'd need 1.09
dusky cliff
aha
hazy laurel
that one went right over my head
hazy laurel
wha
limber pollen
Moving on
dusky cliff
lo
dusky cliff
me
hazy laurel
where the bodies at
hazy laurel
gravemeter 👀
ember oar
Interesting
odd sphinx
ham is eternal*
hazy laurel
ham is eternal*
Inazuma shines eternal
shadow elk
Actually @tribal tinsel it just dawned on me that our usage of ty/wy is a carbon copy of the French tous/vous
because our culture borrowed very heavily from France in the 18th-19th centuries
sudden swallow
<:ducky_bear:757941085430349844> <:ducky_sqlite:874451183568302087> <:ducky_bike...
I wanna buy them ||for 1m $||