tbh wouldn't it be cool if !e used IPython somehow
#ot2-the-original-pubsta
hazy laurel
then you could use stuff like %time
round moss
!e
@thorn dragon
class Ninja:
def __format__(self, s):
return 'π¨'
def __str__(self):
return 'π±βπ€'
ninja = Ninja()
print(f'{ninja=}')
print(f'{ninja=!s}')
```you can do this
clever salmonBOT
@round moss :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | ninja=<__main__.Ninja object at 0x7fb807b95ee0>
002 | ninja=π±βπ€
that's fascinating
jovial island
the '=' causes the repr() of the expression to be provided, unless there is a format specified. When a format is specified it defaults to the str() of the expression unless a conversion '!r' is declared.
`!e` essentially does `python -c <code>`, `ipython -c <code>` should work fine t...
oh, you're right
β― ipython -c "1"
Out[1]: 1
!e
class Ninja:
def __format__(self, s):
return 'π¨'
def __str__(self):
return 'π±βπ€'
ninja = Ninja()
print(f'{ninja=:}')
print(f'{ninja=}')
print(f'{ninja=!s}')
```well, that sure is something@round moss :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | ninja=π¨
002 | ninja=<__main__.Ninja object at 0x7f7f10035ee0>
003 | ninja=π±βπ€
totally not confusing
hazy laurel
:faint:
jovial island
totally not confusing
yeah
1st format given so __format__ called
2nd not given so repr
third??
format given then why str?
oh !s is for str()?
jovial island
ah i see, makes sense.
thanks a lot @round moss & @elfin vine !!
i was quite confused with the stuff lol.
gilded steeple
anti-monke
jade bolt
π΅ anti-monke yay
vital crown
@fast ore Nuclear fission does not convert mass into energy, it releases potential energy by breaking apart the nucleus of atoms into smaller nuclei.
fast ore
Hmm
vital crown
It was energy when it was part of the original nucleus, it's energy when released.
All energy has mass.
fast ore
Hold on i need some google
"Nuclear fission is the process of splitting apart nuclei (usually large nuclei). When large nuclei, such as uranium-235, fissions, energy is released. So much energy is released that there is a measurable decrease in mass, from the mass-energy equivalence. This means that some of the mass is converted to energy"
vital crown
Even "massless" particles have mass.
fast ore
no?
vital crown
Yeah, that's a misleading statement.
vital crown
Yeah, it's true. Even light does. I'll give you an example.
jade bolt
hmm is this like a "i have no money" and "i have 0 money" situation
vital crown
Let's say you have a perfectly sealed cube whose inner walls are perfect mirrors.
fast ore
"Light indeed carries energy via its momentum despite having no mass. ... Since photons (particles of light) have no mass, they must obey E = pc and therefore get all of their energy from their momentum. Now there is an interesting additional effect contained in the general equation " according to a university
vital crown
Turn on a flashlight and put it inside the cube, then put the cube on a scale and measure its weight.
fast ore
momentum creates weight
vital crown
Then, open the lid of the cube to let light escape. Given a scale with high enough precision, you will observe how its weight gradually decreases.
fast ore
by crashing into the mirror?
vital crown
All energy has mass, as per E=mc^2
It's just that the mass contributed by the light is miniscule, because c^2 is such a big term.
m = E/c^2
fast ore
Mass equals E upon C squared
vital crown
A hot cup of coffee is heavier than a cold cup of coffee, due to the thermal energy
But the difference is extremely minute
fast ore
How can an object have momentum without mass? It can do this if it is a wave. A wave transports momentum via its waving motion and not by physically transporting an object with mass. "Momentum" is the directional property of an object in motion that describes its ability to influence another object upon impact. An object with high momentum (such as a truck) can greatly influence the object it collides with (such as a barrel)
This explains it
Hence
tribal tinsel
Light is both wave and particles
fast ore
Your explanation and theory is fact and not baloney
vital crown
How can an object have momentum without mass? It can do this if it is a wave. A ...
I'm not up to speed with QM, but experimental evidence supports what I just told you.
Einstein discovered this in 1915-ish I think
fast ore
vital crown
I can link you the paper
vital crown
I'm a software engineer.
fast ore
oh
tribal tinsel
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211379719330943
According to electromagnetic theory, the rest mass of photon in free space is zero and also photon has non-zero rest mass, as well as wavelength-dependent. The very recent experiment revealed its non-zero value as [formula didn't copy because latex pic]. Even experimental results concluded that within matter (dispersive) the photon shows its imaginary rest mass. We have no exact answer as to why photon incarnates itself with versatile mass. Here we try to theoretically investigate about the rest mass of a photon.
tribal tinsel
I'm not up to speed with QM, but experimental evidence supports what I just told...
I think that's my link. It's about how experiments showed it has mass :3
fast ore
time to ask my teacher to conduct this experiment for me
vital crown
I mean, it's not easy given how little mass extra energy contributes to the weight of an object.
fast ore
she has good equipment
vital crown
You need a lot of energy or very precise measurement instruments.
fast ore
also
back to the topic
nuclear fission is indeed mass to energy conversion
"Nuclear fission is the process of splitting apart nuclei (usually large nuclei). When large nuclei, such as uranium-235, fissions, energy is released. So much energy is released that there is a measurable decrease in mass, from the mass-energy equivalence. This means that some of the mass is converted to energy" - Canadian Energy Research Center
vital crown
Conversion is a misleading word, since everything we call mass is just different forms of (usually potential) energy.
The mass of a proton is almost all strong force potential energy inbetween its constituent quarks.
fast ore
also a scientific video about nuclear bombs did say
vital crown
Quark mass is just potential energy between it and the Higgs field.
fast ore
Small amount of mass can be "converted" to a lot of energy
vital crown
Yeah, but the word "converted" is an oversimplification.
fast ore
Quark mass is just potential energy between it and the Higgs field.
Though im unable to keep up
I think you're probably right
Im still a high-schooler so i don't what the higgs field is
vital crown
It might make it easier to grok for new students, but it also gives the false impression that mass is one thing and energy is another, as if mass was like frozen energy that you can melt.
fast ore
i think higgs is quark
vital crown
When in reality, everything is just energy.
fast ore
and higgs field give stuff mass
vital crown
The Higgs field gives some things mass, like electrons and quarks.
But the vast majority of the mass of a proton for example does not come from its quarks' interactions with the Higgs field, it comes from the strong force inbetween those quarks.
Which is just potential energy.
fast ore
can you break it down a little?
"it comes from the strong force inbetween those quarks."
vital crown
can you break it down a little?
That guy's a phd astrophysicist
(the host, not Einstein)
The rest masses of quarks contribute only about 1% of a proton's mass.[5] The remainder of a proton's mass is due to quantum chromodynamics binding energy, which includes the kinetic energy of the quarks and the energy of the gluon fields that bind the quarks together.
slate leaf
#ot-2 is physics now?
jade bolt
\#ot-2 is physics now?
always has been
slate leaf
Oh, I've been using #ot-0
fast ore
what is your opinion on homeopathy
slate leaf
It can make you feel good, but should not be a substitute for medical advice or treatments
fast ore
"feel good"?
slate leaf
Yes, if I think that if I drink some tea to make a stomach ache go away, I can enjoy that cup of tea and feel good
fast ore
Placebo effect?
slate leaf
Might not cure the stomach ache
fast ore
what the hell why do i know all this stuff
slate leaf
Not entirely placebo, but close-ish. It depends on the exact homeopathic treatment
fast ore
Here is a quote
"Homeopathy claims that water can cure you, because it once held medicine"
"That is like saying I can eat off an empty plate, because once it held food"
vital crown
Not entirely placebo, but close-ish. It depends on the exact homeopathic treatme...
It is 100% placebo and nothing else.
vital crown
what is your opinion on homeopathy
The placebo effect is real, but homeopathy is problematic because since its adherents believe the effect is real, they will tend to eschew the non-placebo treatment they actually do need, and the snake oil peddlers will actively encourage this.
fast ore
Yes, placebo is a thing.
slate leaf
I don't know for sure, so I don't claim it universally to err on the side of caution.
Then again, homeopathy has been very dangerous and fatal in the recent covid / anti vax environment
vital crown
I don't know for sure, so I don't claim it universally to err on the side of cau...
Basic understanding of physics and chemistry will make it blatantly obvious that there is no way it could be anything other than placebo.
fast ore
i would really like someone to explain that detox is bs
vital crown
Homeopathic medicine does not contain any substance that could possibly have any effect on your body.
fast ore
to my mom
vital crown
Water has no memory, because it's just water.
fast ore
kursgezat video says otherwise
echo flower
no
fast ore
they are a team of scientists
echo flower
i think it was an expression
pretty sure there are literal atoms
fast ore
btw
vital crown
kursgezat video says otherwise
Link?
fast ore
and link documents below
echo flower
i think it was an expression
pretty sure there are literal atoms
i think they mean that there are literal atoms in the water
fast ore
echo flower
i watched that video, and the consensus is that homeopathy has no real proved benefits
other than placebo
that is
vital crown
i think they mean that there are literal atoms in the water
I mean, of course there will be trace amounts of all kinds of stuff from any water source, tap water, spring water, sea water, etc.
echo flower
I mean, of course there will be trace amounts of all kinds of stuff from any wat...
i think they meant that they dilute it so much that it's practically water at some point
vital crown
So much feces for example.
slate leaf
Basic understanding of physics and chemistry will make it blatantly obvious that...
No worries, I guess I was out of date on my definition of what homeopathy is. Looks like a bunch of nonsense.
I was getting my wires crossed with "natural plant based medicine"
fast ore
Ayurveda is 80% bs aswell
echo flower
what about nightshade
that's definitely "natural plant based medicine"
more like "natural plant based killer"
vital crown
No worries, I guess I was out of date on my definition of what homeopathy is. Lo...
Sure. I mean, of course "natural plant based medicine" can work. Aspirin is a natural plant-based medicine.
slate leaf
Sure. I mean, of course "natural plant based medicine" can work. Aspirin is a na...
Right, which is why I couched my first statement on homeopathy isn't 100% placebo. Which it totally is, and is my bad for getting the definition wrong
fast ore
isnt almost every medicine plant based
sharp spoke
God's I see the chat and get ptsd of organic notes π
vital crown
It doesn't work because it's natural or plant-based.
median blade
God's I see the chat and get ptsd of organic notes π
lol
echo flower
isnt almost every medicine plant based
true
vital crown
It works because its chemical composition has some beneficial effect on our physiology.
vital crown
Right, which is why I couched my first statement on homeopathy isn't 100% placeb...
Fair enough.
fast ore
then allopathy == ayurveda?
echo flower
then allopathy == ayurveda?
idk
vital crown
A lot of medicine has been manufactured in a lab, of course.
echo flower
dont think so, but need to check
vital crown
then allopathy == ayurveda?
Allopathy is the osteopathic term for regular medicine.
vital crown
Given that ayurveda is alternative medicine, I don't see why you would call it allopathic.
fast ore
I don't mean to say that it is allopathic
most allopathic medicines have chemicals/components extracted from plants
vital crown
I don't know about the statistics of that, but it's at least plausible.
fast ore
ayurvedic """medicine""" crushes those plants into a concoction or something, and makes it in to a juice or tablets.
fast ore
shh
slate leaf
If your treatment is to cure living, then thats effective
echo flower
lmao
vital crown
I mean, it would only become allopathic once consensus is reached in the scientific community of its beneficial effects based on scientifically rigorous experimentation.
echo flower
i mean belladonna is used to temporarily stop hearts
but for real i think they use it in open heart surgeries or smth
not sure about this
fast ore
or to assasinate
the glow in the dark three letter agents are watching
echo flower
lmao
fast ore
google does not yield any real proof
echo flower
i mean belladonna is used to temporarily stop hearts
nvm it doesnt do this thats a different plant
fast ore
Belladonna is used to treat/cause fevers
vital crown
but for real i think they use it in open heart surgeries or smth
not sure about ...
Medicinal use of belladonna has not been approved by the FDA at least.
fast ore
bro bing?
echo flower
yup
fast ore
Use DuckDuckGo
fast ore
Yum
echo flower
okay it does do stuff to the heart, but indirectly
median blade
then allopathy == ayurveda?
no
echo flower
it attacks nerve synapses
median blade
it is more of a preventive medicine
vital crown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQGvyV-JtVQ
Whenever anybody says the word "medicine", it's worth considering whether it refers to regular or alternative medicine. There is a LOT of misinformation about this, so even if someone thinks something is considered regular medicine, that isn't necessarily so.
fast ore
But to me it sounds like a bunch of baloney
echo flower
Whenever anybody says the word "medicine", it's worth considering whether it ref...
true
fast ore
to become a doctor you have spend years studying
echo flower
also true
fast ore
then work as a resident or something
slate leaf
*doctor of medicine
I could be Dr. brad90four and have a doctorate on English Literature in 16th Century New Guinea
vital crown
It really astounds me how widely accepted alternative medicine is. It's like, if it was proven to work, it wouldn't be "alternative".
median blade
I could be Dr. brad90four and have a doctorate on English Literature in 16th Cen...
lol
echo flower
ok according to a journal it blocks the parasympathetic system
fast ore
and to become an ayurvedic """doctor""" you just have study for 18 months
vital crown
and to become an ayurvedic """doctor""" you just have study for 18 months
And the material you have to study is approved by who?
echo flower
ok according to a journal it blocks the parasympathetic system
iirc (from zoology class) parasympathetic system calms down the body while sympathetic system initiates fight or flight response
vital crown
I mean, I can spend 20 years studying articles on the internet and it will make me no more qualified to treat anyone.
echo flower
iirc (from zoology class) parasympathetic system calms down the body while sympa...
its a real problem if all your heart can do is increase
fast ore
Ayurvedic """Practioners or Veds"""
vital crown
So that number, 18 months, really says nothing at all.
fast ore
practioners wrapped around in 128 quotes
vital crown
If they had a 10 year education it would not make them any more reliable.
fast ore
It absolutely would though?
vital crown
It absolutely would though?
No, because the material they study is not scientifically verified either.
fast ore
But doctors study in universities?!???
slate leaf
Yeah, and that material is pretty damn solid
vital crown
But doctors study in universities?!???
Even if you study ayurveda in a university, that doesn't magically make it trustworthy.
vital crown
I was referring to your statement that to become a real doctor, you have to study for years, but to become an ayurvedic doctor you only have to study for 18 months.
fast ore
Yes
vital crown
Because it sounded like you would trust the doctor more because they studied for longer.
vital crown
But the time the ayurvedic doctor has studied doesn't count for anything, because they are studying ayurveda.
fast ore
and solid science basis
vital crown
They can study ayurveda for 20 years, and it's still not going to be real medicine.
vital crown
Yeah, so, of course, it's good that regular doctors study for a long time, but even if the ayurvedic doctor studied for three times as long, it's the same as if they studied for no time at all.
fast ore
Yes because ayurveda is baloney
vital crown
It's alternative medicine, which means that it has not been proven to work.
If it had been proven to work, it would be called regular medicine.
median blade
work where
vital crown
This is my problem with all alternative medicine, I just don't get it. Whenever it is brought up, someone always goes "it has its uses", but if it did, why have they been unable to prove it?
Why do you trust it if it can't be proven to work?
slate leaf
"I used this treatment and it made me feel better, therefore it works" Seems to be the most common reason. There is a disconnect between people's subjective experience with them and the objective study of the efficacy
echo flower
placebos exist
vital crown
"I used this treatment and it made me feel better, therefore it works" Seems to ...
Yeah, I guess it's either ignorance, irrationality or just an actual lack of faith in science.
tribal tinsel
And some "natural" medicines are the same as normal medicines... But herbs carry a lot of additional substances that may get into interactions with stuff. So it works but is not as safe as only that substance in strictly controlled dosages with strictly controlled ingredients
slate leaf
And that is where the borders get just a bit hazy
tribal tinsel
People don't seem to understand that something being "natural" doesn't automatically makes it better. Lots of poisons are natural as well, doesn't mean you should eat them
fast ore
Normal medication is tested to heck
echo flower
100% homeopathic drink 2 100ml glasses of belladonna juice all your problems will be gone
echo flower
~~100% homeopathic drink 2 100ml glasses of belladonna juice all your problems w...
get the dark joke?
tribal tinsel
~~100% homeopathic drink 2 100ml glasses of belladonna juice all your problems w...
As I said about natural... We thought about the same thing :D
fast ore
and needs to be approved by your medical association
echo flower
~~100% homeopathic drink 2 100ml glasses of belladonna juice all your problems w...
if you didnt get it, belladonna is highly poisonous but is used in medicine for some reason..?
alternative that is
tribal tinsel
Oh, I remember how to make a homeopathic tea
echo flower
even eating 2 tiny berries is enough to kill a child
and doubtlessly cause you a lot of trouble even if you dont die
fast ore
fast ore
damn you stole the words
echo flower
i did :D
tribal tinsel
How to make homeopathic tea:
Make a glass of tea.
Take a teaspoon out, mix it into a bottle of water. Shake well because something something water vibrations and memory and stuff that supposedly makes homeopathy work.
Take a teaspoon and mix into a jug of water. Shake it.
Take a teaspoon and mix into a barrel of water. Shake it.
Take a teaspoon out and mix into a tanker (tank truck) of water. Shake it.
Take a teaspoon out. That's your homeopathic tea
fast ore
Basically
echo flower
How to make homeopathic tea:
Make a glass of tea.
Take a teaspoon out, mix it in...
the fuck
vital crown
How do you shake the tanker?
fast ore
Dilute poison to oblivion
fast ore
How do you shake the tanker?
crane
slate leaf
Drive down an Alabama highway
tribal tinsel
Some homeopathic "medicine" literally say they have one "medicinal" particle for numbers that basically are more than there are particles in the universe
vital crown
Can't I just pour the cup into a river and get another cup further downstream?
tribal tinsel
How do you shake the tanker?
Bumpy road
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ending-homeopathy-delusion-a6733926.html here
consider the current homeopathic βbest sellerβ, oscillococcinum, which is βpotentisedβ from duck liver and recommended for colds or flu. It is sold in the C200 potency meaning that one part of organ extract is diluted in 10 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 parts of diluent: this is much less than one duck molecule per universe.
tribal tinsel
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathic_dilutions
In homeopathy, a solution that is more dilute is described as having a higher potency, and more dilute substances are considered by homeopaths to be stronger and deeper-acting.[12] The end product is often so diluted that it is indistinguishable from the dilutant (typically ethanol or pure water for liquids, milk sugar for insoluble solids).[13][14][15]
vital crown
#stopthedilutiondelusion
echo flower
just drink water smh
tribal tinsel
We now know that the greatest dilution that is reasonably likely to contain one molecule of the original substance is 12C, if starting from 1 mole of original substance
The duck thing had 100C (100 times diluted by a factor of 100) in the article
echo flower
same effect it'll have
tribal tinsel
Dilution advocated by Hahnemann for most purposes: on average, this would require giving two billion doses per second to six billion people for 4 billion years to deliver a single molecule of the original material to any patient.
echo flower
they arent afraid to show they're logging your movements lmao
just dont use facebook
wat
i dont get it
languid osprey
It's invalid
fast ore
game data
languid osprey
So it shows the invalid symbol
fast ore
nopies :(
echo flower
le oof
fast ore
now bioluminescent three letter agents have my data :(
timid crown
@elfin vine moving here since we've gone off topic. I'm not familiar with Project Winter, what is it?
elfin vine
It's that Social Deception game I moderate
Social Deception as in Among Us, but it has proximity chat and is much more complicated (in a fun and interesting way)
For example you can fight back (no instant-death like Among Us), there's survival elements to it, instead of individual tasks you need to finish together there are several big ones you cooperate on.
timid crown
I see, sounds interesting
elfin vine
The game like just recently released on PS and Nintendo
And crossplay is about to be enabled with all platforms (Steam is a few updates ahead Xbox, PS and Nintendo Switch)
It works pretty good on Steam's Proton so it'll work nicely on the Steam Deck
All very exciting π
timid crown
Regarding what you said about the two channels, I think ultimately it's a matter of the person's skill to convey their ideas properly through writing, and their willingness to deescalate when things get heated
elfin vine
Yeah exactly, and we have time- and time again gotten members who don't do this. When the discussion was real-time this easily enabled them to quickly drop in and be rather condescending
timid crown
All very exciting π
I'm not much into deception games, but I'll check it out if it's on sale π
elfin vine
It recently integrated with Corsairs lighting system, enter the giveaway: https://gleam.io/AGM03/project-winter-corsair-lighting-integration-partnership-giveaway
It's better than nothing π
hazy laurel
Speaking of Steam Proton
timid crown
It's better than nothing π
haha I might
hazy laurel
Figure it's worth posting here as well: https://twitter.com/TheBattlEye/status/1441477816311291906
Twitter
elfin vine
This comment is hilarious
elfin vine
haha I might
Do lmk if you get it
hazy laurel
y'know it's funny how an anticheat has fanboys
steel eagle
It is
Especially considering looking at the facts battleye is pretty much the best
People just think "I saw a cheater it doesn't work at all"
haughty oriole
@grim seal HALP.
@grim seal Erlang is the great language on Middle Earth.
@grim seal plz give !voiceverify
placid patrol
..
grim seal
wat
grim seal
please don't spam ping people
grim seal
no, you didn't have to, don't spam ping people.
haughty oriole
I tried sending you a private message
grim seal
yeah, I have them off to avoid trash DMs
jolly condor
What up Joe
grim seal
greetings π
jolly condor
Lmao, greetings indeed
haughty oriole
where did the django competition go btw
do you have the results somewhere
that was 2020 or
I wanna see
or was it 2019
jolly condor
Hmm I vaguely remember that
haughty oriole
I remember it was coming a few months before I kinda quit
jolly condor
Who were you again?
haughty oriole
WorldWake was me
haughty oriole
yeah well I haven't been on discord for Years
jolly condor
Oh I have, I practically live on discord lmao
haughty oriole
I actually felt horrible after quitting
but it was the right decision
but the django thing?
I wanna read the source code
haughty oriole
@jolly condor I remember you knew IT
jolly condor
Haha, do you remember who I was here?
haughty oriole
I remember a good deal of things
jolly condor
Go on
haughty oriole
@jolly condor I remember your face --- just because I've changed my nickname and I haven't been here for a long time doesn't mean all that much
jolly condor
Oh I haven't been here for a long time too
haughty oriole
@jolly condor but okay, so,
I bought a new 4K monitor
and it was working at 60Hz perfectly
for the longest time
I turned it on this morning
grim seal
where did the django competition go btw
as in this? https://pythondiscord.com/events/code-jams/7/
haughty oriole
@grim seal 100%
hazy laurel
Wish I'd been a part of that one
jolly condor
Hmm I think that was after I left
haughty oriole
I quit pretty much right after I saw that it came into existence
I saw it existed for a month or so, then I quit
so maybe January-February 2020?
I studied Django After that... I got a job as a Django-developer
jolly condor
Sounds like a result haha
haughty oriole
I mean kinda. I saw that people were doing a competition in my favorite language with some framework
so I decided to learn that framework in my free time, regardless.
jovial island
ok
haughty oriole
the winner app for that competition is nice
for 1 week of work
it's not even a lot of code
very fucking buggy though
clever salmonBOT
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wide totem
@jolly condor hi, I've seen you around, nice to see you back here π
wheat rock
so do i
sudden swallow
and desert you
slender marsh
say goodbye
jolly condor
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jade bolt
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jade bolt
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jade bolt
lies
keen burrow
I am still super proud of what we did in the summer 2020 code jam, even if we went past the deadline
Also a CPython core dev told me "Other than the return type, I'm impressed with the docstring, comments, and overall structure of this function. It was made to be very easy to follow.", so hey
jade bolt
I am still super proud of what we did in the summer 2020 code jam, even if we we...
what did yall do in summer 2020 code jam
keen burrow
Basically, a web based VM runner for Arch 0.1, released in 2002
jade bolt
web based vm π
keen burrow
Yeah
hazy laurel
Arch >_>
jolly condor
Details, lmao
shadow elk
Is there a way to tell youtube not to translate videos in a particular language into English?
echo flower
as in closed captions?
jade bolt
Is there a way to tell youtube not to translate videos in a particular language ...
in mobile no
in pc yes
going to settings to set
echo flower
ye
shadow elk
going to settings to set
hm?
shadow elk
as in closed captions?
Some videos provide the title and the description in several languages. I want it to work like this:
- If the original video is in Russian, don't translate the title & description into English
- If the original video is in English, don't translate the title & description into Russian
- Otherwise, translate the title & description into English if available
shadow elk
I'm not talking about captions
keen burrow
Details, lmao
But those are details that matter 
hollow heart
Some videos provide the title and the description in several languages. I want i...
yeah I also hate the translated titles
grim seal
lol wtf thatβs dope
we have the new Spotify thing on my floor uhhhh
where is it
the blends thing
gleaming copper
tranquil ridge
8.154
wheat rock
lmfao
odd sphinx
ha
hidden kernel
@young fern sorry I had to step away, but you can ask any python questions you want, as long as they follow our #rules
young fern
<@!386869387464015873> sorry I had to step away, but you can ask any python ques...
That's okay. No worries. I realized I asked 8n wrong place first. You guys have Modmail lol.
hidden kernel
there's also #community-meta
young fern
What I meant to ask is like. So can I ask for a kind of help like. I list whatever I've learned on python so far. And ask for help from someone to give me short projects or tasks regarding to what I have learned?
young fern
there's also <#429409067623251969>
Oh.
hidden kernel
What I meant to ask is like. So can I ask for a kind of help like. I list whatev...
you can, the usefulness of the answers may vary
!projects
clever salmonBOT
hidden kernel
we do have this ^
although those might be more useful once you get to a higher level idk
young fern
we do have this ^
although those might be more useful once you get to a higher l...
I will try them out. Thank you for the reply and your time.
hidden kernel
np
steel eagle
What is a good note taking/organization software btw? Preferably one that works on Windows/Mac/Linux/iOS/iPadOS/Android and will work without having a constant internet connection...
Google docs is too much just Microsoft word, not enough organization
One Note has really weird issues for me keeping text aligned on my iPad... I really want to move my notes off of discord.
Preferably looking for something that has the concept of regular text, mixed with checkboxes, and ideally freehand writing for when I'm on the iPad...
I don't even know if such a thing exists tbh, OneNote has it all but the formating issues drive me crazy
compact dagger
What is a good note taking/organization software btw? Preferably one that works ...
I have heard good things about obsidian. Its closed source and i dont know how many platforms it supports
Its like a markdown editor with a ton of organization features supposedly
steel eagle
This looks perfect...
sterile nymph
Has python put anyone in prison?
steel eagle
I mean, no I don't think so.
I'm sure someone somewhere who got in trouble and went to prison has used python in their nefarious acts
But python itself has nothing to do with that
worthy copper
Hi i got a simple C++ question is it ok to ask here?
daring jay
clever salmonBOT
worthy copper
very simple stuff actually
just want to porint a number with cout << its an integer variable. lets say number 10
i want to print number with 2 decimal points
like 10.00
10/1 did not work
what can i do
pastel dune
int n = 10;
std::cout << n << ".00\n";
lol
round moss
careful that this will change this for all subsequent outputs in the cout
worthy copper
i m geting variable from user input
as 10
Donuts method might work
need to check
round moss
then cast to float with std::static_cast<float>(variable)
actually is static_cast in a namespace
idk lul
worthy copper
trying now
cout << fixed << setprecision(2) << "You have earned $" << static_cast < float>(10) << " gift for your purchases. With additional promotions, $" << static_cast<float>(10 + promotionAmount) << " will be added to your card" << endl;
amazing worked like charm
rustic harborBOT
proper python
Imagine a world where people read the docs before asking a question
Imagine if people googled shit before asking a question
jade bolt
.topic
rustic harborBOT
jade bolt
.topic
rustic harborBOT
jade bolt
.topic
rustic harborBOT
jade bolt
.topic
wheat aurora
Y'all do realize the topic question isn't meant to be spammed, right?
swift cobalt
```c++
int n = 10;
std::cout << n << ".00\n";
```
lol
You sneaky bastard!
swift cobalt
Continuing to exist as an incorporated entity by resisting entropy through homeostatis
Also, cheese. And I mean thisβbut cooking with lots of cheese is one of the most satisfying things in my life. Mac and cheese, pizza, casserole, grilled cheese
Those real meals that leave you feeling fed
rustic harborBOT
echo flower
apple
dire kindle
@lofty venture this is what hunter said when I was going to by him a nitro
lofty venture
ah
lofty venture
<@!853955303535804436> this is what hunter said when I was going to by him a nit...
LOL
I guess you have lots of money.
echo flower
le oof
lofty venture
~~I just stole my parents credit card~~
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
lofty venture
~~I just stole my parents credit card~~
Oh my god
lofty venture
i dont have much money but I do have some <:potato_popcorn:887575008984072213>
:potato_popcorn:
π¦
I'd like to say :potato_popcorn:
dire kindle
lofty venture
:potato_popcorn:
dire kindle
sad
remote widget
I guess you have lots of money.
I say the exact same thing
remote widget
Hi
lofty venture
<a:potatopls:524474732012371969>
:I hate potato:
remote widget
lofty venture
top 1 hunters emogi
dire kindle
i dont like pink but i like potato
lofty venture
:I hate potato:
^
dire kindle
*I say the exact same thing*
but it isn't true
lofty venture
but it isn't true <:potato_popcorn:887575008984072213>
yes it isn't
dire kindle
ofc
remote widget
Bruh, I should really sleep more at nights rather than in days π₯²
dire kindle
It's from stealing
remote widget
Bad sleep habit
lofty venture
Bad sleep habit <:pithink:652247559909277706>
LOL
lofty venture
<:AG_BRUH:839706042484916264>
:/
remote widget
a built-in feature?
Mi Band
lofty venture
Mi band oh
dire kindle
rich
remote widget
Cya
remote widget
Nowhere
lofty venture
Nowhere
remote widget
Uhhh, I just said bye to Melon
remote widget
Opps got to go
^^^
remote widget
dire kindle
i think i used potato too much
lofty venture
Stop the potato
dire kindle
but @remote widget likes it
remote widget
Law of Diminishing Marginal Utility
lofty venture
If someone gives me nitro I wil send lots of potato
dire kindle
and @olive jacinth
remote widget
Law of Diminishing Marginal Utility
The more u use something, the desire of that thing becomes less
dire kindle
lemme google
lofty venture
remote widget
lemme google
It's a human tendency
remote widget
Lol
lofty venture
Potato
lofty venture
And @dire kindle
lofty venture
...
dire kindle
lofty venture
π₯
dire kindle
done.
remote widget
I was making breakfast for myself
U haven't eaten anything except a chocolate since 12 hours
lofty venture
<:pithink:652247559909277706> I was making breakfast for myself
Hunter drop table users
remote widget
<@!493451846543998977> accepts, I accept
Done
lofty venture
tnx
lofty venture
Wow
remote widget
π€·
remote widget
I mean, what you mean by What why
lofty venture
... ?
rustic harborBOT
H-h-h--huntew
lofty venture
@H-h-h--huntew
remote widget
L. O. L.
remote widget
Eh, I am good with my current nickname
remote widget
I am sure @dire kindle will want to try uwufying their name tho
remote widget
Lol
lofty venture
@remote widget pings @dire kindle
lofty venture
pink π₯
echo flower
remote widget
L. O. L.
sharp notch
rustic harborBOT
remote widget
None
rustic harborBOT
lofty venture
None
!e
hunter = bool('Hunter have no favorite composer/producer/singer')
if hunter:
print(' hunter have no favorite composer/producer/singer')
else:
print('π₯')
clever salmonBOT
@lofty venture :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
hunter have no favorite composer/producer/singer
kywee
lofty venture
.uwu kylee
LOL
.belufy
.belugafy
.belufy a
.belugafy
..
.
.
.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmp
pallid violet
.src uwu
dire kindle
idk 
remote widget
.uwu kylee
L. O. L.
rustic harborBOT
remote widget
Sleeping
Pissing other people off
Time pass
Gaming
Chatting
rustic harborBOT
remote widget
Sleeping
dire kindle
eh, some people cant sleep well tho
rustic harborBOT
dire kindle
you're Lucky to have sleeping talent
remote widget
eh, some people cant sleep well tho
Doesn't seem like I have the talent
remote widget
Hmm, I don't really know tbh
rustic harborBOT
remote widget
you just need to sleep more <:potatopopcorn:530552698437894174>
most of my sleep is light sleep
dire kindle
manyyy
remote widget
None
rustic harborBOT
dire kindle
.topic
rustic harborBOT
remote widget
Eh, it's a difficult question to answer tbh
dire kindle
nothing
remote widget
what about your mom's cc
remote widget
rustic harborBOT
remote widget
Eh, I haven't gone to one since 2-3 years
dire kindle
.topic
rustic harborBOT
remote widget
Football
dire kindle
is E-Sport a sport?
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
remote widget
Coding Book
dire kindle
remote widget
.topic
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
dire kindle
a hotel
rustic harborBOT
dire kindle
.topic
rustic harborBOT
remote widget
.topic
rustic harborBOT
remote widget
The current one
rustic harborBOT
remote widget
Code a good AI
dire kindle
making a trick shot in pubgm
remote widget
.topic
rustic harborBOT
remote widget
Milk
dire kindle
Tea + milk = heaven
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
remote widget
dire kindle
whats media genre?
rustic harborBOT
dire kindle
.topic
rustic harborBOT
dire kindle
pubgm
remote widget
CoD and GTA
dire kindle
dont use global
remote widget
Be calm and don't let self doubt come over u
dire kindle
.topic
rustic harborBOT
dire kindle
normal
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
dire kindle
.topic
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
rustic harborBOT
swift cobalt
We wrap each other's presents in funny or ironic wrapping paper in my family
I got a gift last year in paw patron wrapping paper
vital crown
@harsh willow How do you figure that it's not underrated?
rustic harborBOT
fluid plank
how do we corner joe
rustic harborBOT
sinful sun
pastel arch
tribal tinsel
PEP8 song
really
I found the server month earlier in Explore but something bugged and nothing happened when I clicked the button
so it was only when PEP8 song got released that I hit a working url (in the song description) without looking specifically for it π
dull ridge
anyone here know how can iwrite to json in react native?
jovial island
anyone here know how can iwrite to json in react native?
should be possible with regular JS standard?
pliant trench
The PEP8 song is great
It indeed was, before I find out the song "Mad World" lol
jovial island
anyone here know how can iwrite to json in react native?
you mean define a json?
const a = { b: 'whatever' }
harsh willow
<@!196364200447049729> How do you figure that it's not underrated?
With number of companies and developers using java, how would anyone say it's underrated? It does what it was meant to do.
vital crown
With number of companies and developers using java, how would anyone say it's un...
I think they probably meant in the sense that a lot of people consider Java to be an inferior programming language.
harsh willow
They are just not thinking the same question.
They look at java and they see bloated code and tons of boiler plate code. It's not fun at all to code in java
vital crown
I mean, I think underrated is a pretty good description, since it's kind of a meme that Java is bad, while in reality it's widely used and clearly an effective choice for the types of applications that it's designed for.
harsh willow
This is all true there is a reason java is one of least enjoyable languages to code in.
vital crown
I think even this is a bit of an outdated view. Modern Java is fine to code in, in my opinion.
It's not my favorite, but it's not horrible either.
It supports lambdas, functional-style programming, type inference (to some extent) and I think pattern matching is on the horizon as well.
It's not as nice as Kotlin, but it's totally fine.
harsh willow
I think weight of past is a bit much. I'm still mostly coding in java 8 because of legacy code.
vital crown
I think weight of past is a bit much. I'm still mostly coding in java 8 because...
8 is a bit old, but at least you have lambdas and the stream API.
harsh willow
Is lambda really novel or something these days?
harsh willow
Yeah that is true
vital crown
I think 7->8 is the most important modernization
Things get progressively better after that, but 7->8 is the biggest difference.
harsh willow
And there is the problem that you still need to deal with old java language. It doesn't just magically go away. Like if you Google how to do something, old code, or other programmers etc. @vital crown
vital crown
And there is the problem that you still need to deal with old java language. It...
Sure, you need to sift through legacy documentation, but that's true for everything as it grows older.
When you google Python stuff you need to watch out for Python 2 documentation.
harsh willow
Python is not anywhere as old as Java or C++ imo
vital crown
Python is not anywhere as old as Java or C++ imo
Python is actually older than Java.
harsh willow
Most people started with python much later is what I mean
Like end of python 2 or python 3
Java was popular ages ago
vital crown
Python has been gaining ground recently, sure, but it's still just a fact of life that you're always going to have to deal with outdated documentation.
It's a not a Java-specific problem.
lunar basin
java has so many features mashed into it now
harsh willow
Java has to deal with it more
vital crown
I don't know, Java has been the language I've worked with the most over the course of my professional career and I don't find this to be a big problem.
lunar basin
Python is not anywhere as old as Java or C++ imo
how can that be an opinion lol, it either is or isn't
vital crown
When I google stuff I check the date of the information I find, but I do that for everything, not just Java. I think it's a good habit to have.
harsh willow
It's probably not an issue with your because you use java so much. New people or casual users of java are going to suffer more.
shrewd lance
Python is not anywhere as old as Java or C++ imo
Isn't python actually older?
harsh willow
That's why I wrote imo lol.
vital crown
Perhaps, but I think you just learn to filter by past year when you google, you tend to find up-to-date information.
vital crown
Isn't python actually older?
If you read back, we clarified that it's literally older, but @harsh willow has a point that Python has had its big upswing relatively recently.
shrewd lance
Ah, fair enough
harsh willow
Later
harsh willow
how can that be an opinion lol, it either is or isn't
To clarify I am referring to the sense that language also depends on the ecosystem. Even though python 1 existed almost no one today was using it.
If we do stuff in python, we often rely on packages to do a lot of the heavy lifting.
hollow heart
@ocean bough so it was asking for average total rain fall for any given month. so now we need to extract not just the month but the year as well
def rain_months():
data['month'] = pd.DatetimeIndex(data['Dygn']).month
data['year'] = pd.DatetimeIndex(data['Dygn']).year
monthly_totals_per_year = data.groupby(['year', 'month'])['NederbΓΆrd(mm)'].sum().reset_index()
monthly_total_avg = monthly_totals_per_year.groupby('month')['NederbΓΆrd(mm)'].mean()
return monthly_total_avg.to_dict()
```doing that i got 50.88 for january 
ornate scroll
ocean bough
<@!483332455760134166> so it was asking for average total rain fall for any give...
Nicely done lol. I dont even remember what january shouldve been but something like that.
Wait why do we have to extract the year?
hollow heart
bc first we need to sum the total rainfall per month of every year in the dataframe
then we calculate the average total rainfall per month
somber belfry
Hey @white olive, just FYI, "third party" means "not Instagram, the entity". It does not have anything to do with you as a user.
white olive
Hey <@!490913652153778186>, just FYI, "third party" means "not Instagram, the en...
Thank you for researching, this shows me that you are fully commited to your job as Discord Moderator Thanks again and best of luck!
somber belfry
haha, thx
ocean bough
*then* we calculate the average total rainfall per month
But shouldnt it be the same if we take sum of every month and avg that? As we did in 1st version?
hollow heart
no, what we did earlier was just averaging rainfall per day per month. in this version we're averaging the total amount of rainfall per month
so if it rained 2mm every day in January the first version would give us 2
the second version gives us 2mm * 31 = 62mm for January, then takes the average of all January total rainfalls (from all years)
hollow heart
But shouldnt it be the same if we take sum of every month and avg that? As we di...
what you're describing here is not what we actially did in version 1
so in summary what we were doing before was averaging daily rainfall per month. what we needed to do was average the monthly rainfall instead
if that's not what the problem actually asked for, definitely bring it up with your teacher. but I guessed they were looking for average monthly rainfall based on the word "bucket" I saw in the problem lol
wheat aurora
@hollow heart you have a fancy new role icon now~
wheat aurora
mina went from patron II to patron III, thanks to the patron bot being terrible it doesn't consistently remove the old role
wide totem
ah
hidden kernel
you would become more useful to Kat's graphic design workflow
hidden kernel
does it only work when you go in order?
hollow heart
smh patreon sent me exactly 0 emails
steel eagle
Are you sure
hollow heart
first i downgraded from $15 to $5, then i canceled, then i re-joined at $5, and re-upgraded to $15
steel eagle
Did you count?
hollow heart
Didnt fail to email though π
my face looks so scribbly
vague shadow
Didn't think doxxing you would be a good idea lol
hollow heart
WHY TY lol
vague shadow
π
hollow heart
first i downgraded from $15 to $5, then i canceled, then i re-joined at $5, and ...
did you get emails abt all these?
vague shadow
Nope
hollow heart
vague shadow
That's so blurry on mobile lol
hollow heart
it's blurry bc whoever made this emote made it bluryy lmao
but from what I hear from other creators on patreon, the blurriness just about sums up their quality
vague shadow
Lol so I've heard
dense wedge
kitty
steel eagle
Can you not spam please
steel eagle
You didn't mean to spam? I mean
steel eagle
You consciously posted in multiple channels the same thing, you meant to do it. Multiposting is also obviously spam
lofty loom
I mean it wasn't necessary to send the same image in three channels for no reason
dense wedge
i know sorry
steel eagle
Sharing it once, sure. Not a meme so why not, it's fine
dense wedge
my apologies
dull ridge
write to file
dull ridge
you mean define a json?
const a = { b: 'whatever' }
no that's in ram, i need to store it in disk
median blade
no that's in ram, i need to store it in disk
android has something called shared-preferences
it's android's way of storing stuff
odd sphinx
ye
odd sphinx
but its a key value system
median blade
similar to json
median blade
no idea
the flutter one supports a string list
and you can convert json to string and then decode it
odd sphinx
true
dull ridge
https://www.npmjs.com/package/react-native-shared-preferences
hm
i'm just going to use realmdb
it's like json ngl
jovial island
no that's in ram, i need to store it in disk
you can make json files.
jovial island
lol so what's the issue?
dull ridge
i can't edit them though
jovial island
load edit write?
jovial island
you can use localstorage too
jovial island
ow ok