haha i didn't realize it
#ot2-the-original-pubsta
dusky cliff
idk
pliant trench
🥲 I wish i could see it
sharp spoke
idk
dont u have access to restricted staff channels? or mods have their own for raids?
dusky cliff
yes
sharp spoke
!e ```py
class For:
def init(self, initialize, condition, incrementation):
exec(initialize)
self.condition = condition
self.inc = incrementation
globals().update(locals())
def __getitem__(self, code):
if eval(self.condition):
for _ in code:
exec(_)
exec(self.inc)
globals().update(locals())
self.__getitem__(code)
lis = list("pydis yay")
For("i=0","i<len(lis)","i+=1")["print(i,end=' is ')","print(lis[i])"]
clever salmonBOT
@sharp spoke :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 0 is p
002 | 1 is y
003 | 2 is d
004 | 3 is i
005 | 4 is s
006 | 5 is
007 | 6 is y
008 | 7 is a
009 | 8 is y
He has access to a few ones
yeah i realized 😅
real forum
!e ```py
class For:
def __init__(self, initialize, condition, incrementation...
You do realize there is a built in func
sharp spoke
You do realize there is a built in func
uhm well yes i do for i in range(len(lis)) right? 👀
sharp spoke
You do realize there is a built in func
for a non iterable type for loop?
damn that i didnt know
tranquil ridge
enumerate
real forum
^
tranquil ridge
!e py print(list(enumerate([100, 200, 300, 400, 500])))
clever salmonBOT
@tranquil ridge :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
[(0, 100), (1, 200), (2, 300), (3, 400), (4, 500)]
orz
sharp spoke
well i meant to make a non itering type for loop though lol 👀
languid osprey
He has access to a few ones
Hsp can become admin and have access to all channels
Ez
sharp spoke
!e print(*map((lambda : " is ".join(map(str,))), enumerate("testing")), sep="\n")
clever salmonBOT
@sharp spoke :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 0 is t
002 | 1 is e
003 | 2 is s
004 | 3 is t
005 | 4 is i
006 | 5 is n
007 | 6 is g
That will be a scary day
languid osprey
Amazing day
echo flower
don't you understand
the aboo cult will be overthrown
sharp spoke
That will be a scary day
every channel will be flooded with code gore 😔
real forum
every channel will be flooded with code gore 😔
That's not the scary part
echo flower
@sharp spoke you were falling...
sharp spoke
<@!738369188120494080> you were falling...
yes but i fell now 😔
sharp spoke
That's not the scary part
it is though 👀
languid osprey
Oh
echo flower
okay
sharp spoke
@daring jay when did u have the dusk is falling status for last time?
echo flower
you have travelled 25401.6 km @sharp spoke
languid osprey
Make hsp Aboo
sharp spoke
you have travelled 25401.6 km <@!738369188120494080>
that's a nice distance
dusky cliff
Hsp can become admin and have access to all channels
:schemin:
languid osprey
No fail
languid osprey
Perhaps
sharp spoke
Make hsp Aboo
imagine esoteric rust
languid osprey
Pfft
sharp spoke
wait now i seriously wonder how esoteric rust would look like
languid osprey
Find some
echo flower
that's a nice distance
65840947200 km sorry @sharp spoke
using s = 1/2 g t ^2
nvm i forgot to do the 1/2
sharp spoke
using s = 1/2 g t ^2
alright that would fine
echo flower
32920473600 km
echo flower
interesting.. did i circle the earth?
assuming you have a magical thingamabob that allows you to accelerate at 9.8 m/s^2 for 1 month, 821471 times.
sharp spoke
assuming you have a magical thingamabob that allows you to accelerate at 9.8 m/s...
the centrifugal for force here 💀
echo flower
lmao
i need ur mass
for physics calculations
ok let's assume the average human weight
ill assume 45 ig
you will crash with 14517928857600 kN of force
dunno how you're alive after that so congrats!
brittle parrot
Hi, guys. Can someone help with google spreadsheet?
I have numbers in column A&B and i need to show all duplicates in column C. In column D i should have all unique numbers from both columns(i mean A&B)
sharp spoke
you will crash with 14517928857600 kN of force
oh fric well hmm that would be.. 32262064128 g force
dusky cliff
i need ur mass
for physics calculations
did you take relativity into account
echo flower
i dont think this is nearly close to lightspeed but ok
dusky cliff
if you accelerate at 9.8 m/s^2 for a month you get to 8.46% light speed
echo flower
it's 8.5%
dusky cliff
yes
unreal sigil
What is going on in here 👀
sharp spoke
i dont think this is nearly close to lightspeed but ok
it is though i mean more than 1%
dusky cliff
that is definitely high enough to start accounting for relativity
sharp spoke
What is going on in here 👀
killing of fallen with g force
sharp spoke
that is definitely high enough to start accounting for relativity
true
echo flower
lmao
echo flower
that is definitely high enough to start accounting for relativity
i dont know how to use relativity concept except for frames but ok
unreal sigil
They're just moving along a geodesic in space, they're not accelerating at all
unreal sigil
Well then they are very dead
sharp spoke
Well then they are very dead
true
echo flower
universe sandbox 2 time
unreal sigil
The second they enter the atmosphere they're turning into a fine mist of plasma
They are just gone
echo flower
you will crash with 14517928857600 kN of force
i dont think releasing this much amount of energy into the atmosphere is good for it
unreal sigil
probably not
echo flower
it will probably start dissasociating
and probably start burning anyhing alive below
sharp spoke
and probably start burning anyhing alive below
i mean just the drag will kill a person
echo flower
we don't think about the person now, the lives of earth are in danger
and once the impact hits
it'll probably break the earth into pieces
unreal sigil
Well, I think the impact will come more or less at the same time as the atmosphere being destroyed, they'd have to be close to the speed of light
echo flower
true
sharp spoke
few miliseconds difference i think but yeah about same time
sharp spoke
!e ```py
class For:
def __init__(self, initialize, condition, incrementation...
@unreal sigil also i got inspired from ur while loop and 👉 👈
unreal sigil
👀
unreal sigil
well
sharp spoke
i mean one can be equating to a set but any better? 🤔
sharp spoke
I can probably pull it off with cursed type hints
uhuh
alright ill waiting.. ping me if u do it 👀
unreal sigil
my linter is not happy with me
sharp spoke
wonders why while searching ur messages in esoteric python /j
unreal sigil
I'm so confused, it looks like it should work but it just doesn't
sharp spoke
I'm so confused, it looks like it should work but it just doesn't
whoa hmm... could i take a peek too? 👀
unreal sigil
from __future__ import annotations
@lambda c:c()
class __annotations__:
def __setitem__(self, k, v):
if k == "While":
globals()["takethisthing"] = v
elif k == "_":
code = v.strip("{").strip("}").strip().split(", ")
code_string = "\n".join(code)
while eval(takethisthing):
exec(code_string)
x = 3
While: "x < 50";_:{
"print(x)",
"x += 3"
}
```Is what I hadBut for some reason x isn't updated
I was trying a bunch of things
Couldn't get x to update though
Even though when trying some of the exact same code as last time to do that, it just didn't work
Not too sure why though
clever salmonBOT
sharp spoke
oh do this thing doesnt require to update globals?
jade bolt
probably view the source of it. might help
somber belfry
!e
from __future__ import braces
@somber belfry :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File "<string>", line 1
002 | SyntaxError: not a chance
Despicable
odd sphinx
aha
languid osprey
Aha what
odd sphinx
aha.
echo flower
<@562601836591185930> :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.
```
0...
wait what lmao
echo fern
@tribal tinsel not even close to being the second biggest
tribal tinsel
<@!124812862567743488> not even close to being the second biggest
I probably misremember something someone once said... but I think the Fortnite being first was correct? XD
echo fern
this is the top public ones sorted by online user count (presumably); we have 250k total
yeah, seems so
tribal tinsel
It was probably something about pydis being huge and someone assuming we're the biggest and someone else saying it's Fortnite
echo fern
there's bound to be a better list, hold on
echo fern
hmm, how performant is Pascal?
and why the hell would anyone write a program in it in this day and age?
Actually, scratch "in this day and age", why'd anyone write a program in it 10 years ago
wind wadi
They taught it to university students to help them grasp the idea of a programming language and stuff I think
echo fern
yeah, I learned it in school too
why the hell would one use it for an actual program though
lofty loom
why the hell would one use it for an actual program though
https://www.embarcadero.com/products/Delphi
Pascal is still alive under the Delphi dialect apparently
And seeing they mention support of M1, definitely so
delicate lion
what's wrong with hugging a duck 😦
snow reef
Ducks are generally as crazy as the worst of the Roman emperors.
jovial island
I like ducks
mental idol
On our way to get hugs
sudden swallow
what's wrong with hugging a duck 😦
wide totem
@glad temple oop, sorry, you were still typing 👀
median blade
hello prashant
wheat rock
Keep calm and poop
jade bolt
Keep calm and poop
KEEP
CALM
. BY
POOPING ON
. PEE
jade bolt
*pings @dusky cliff*
dusky cliff
ok
hazy laurel
um
odd sphinx
hm
jade bolt
hm
tribal tinsel
Sum
echo flower
yum
tribal tinsel
Hum
echo flower
dum
dusky cliff
treading down a risky path here
tribal tinsel
fum
jovial island
kaboom
tribal tinsel
jum
jade bolt
num
tribal tinsel
vum
lucid osprey
hello. I'm looking for a ringtone for my wakeup alarm.
The thing is, I want it to be so extremely annoying so that I feel like waking up before the alarm even rings so I can turn it off. Any suggestions?
slate leaf
hello. I'm looking for a ringtone for my wakeup alarm.
The thing is, I want it ...
The standard alarm clock sound from every movie and tv show
lucid osprey
hm
tribal tinsel
Lum
jade bolt
mum
odd sphinx
treading down a risky path here
heh
tribal tinsel
mum
I think only one is left now. Which can be either vulgar or dignified (Latin 'with', used eg to denote top x% of graduates)
Cum laude, with praise
rigid echo
hello. I'm looking for a ringtone for my wakeup alarm.
The thing is, I want it ...
fart sounds will be great
tribal tinsel
Loud windows XP login sound
rigid echo
lmfao
jade bolt
hello. I'm looking for a ringtone for my wakeup alarm.
The thing is, I want it ...
make an app that makes you do a math question then the alarm turns off
or solve a rubik cube
anything thatll make you awake like a puzzle
tranquil ridge
anything thatll make you awake like a puzzle
Won't work for speedcubers
jade bolt
@lucid osprey or build this machine https://youtu.be/X7OD6VVUpyQ
lucid osprey
make an app that makes you do a math question then the alarm turns off
well I am making one using tkinter but none of the puzzle stuff to get it off
lucid osprey
Won't work for speedcubers
as if speedcubers can solve with the same speed on a pc/mobile
lucid osprey
<@785425328033103872> or build this machine https://youtu.be/X7OD6VVUpyQ
bruh
tranquil ridge
Didn't think it would be software
jade bolt
make an app that makes you do a math question then the alarm turns off
i will probably make this later
well i have too many projects i probably wont even start this one
jade bolt
i will probably make this later
on android only because ios sucks imo
lucid osprey
smart concept tho
I've now got it to just display the time, now I have to make way for the user to add and delete alarms either by giving them as an argument when running the file or through the gui.
tribal tinsel
make an app that makes you do a math question then the alarm turns off
There's an app for that. "I can't wake up" or something like that, for Android
jade bolt
There's an app for that. "I can't wake up" or something like that, for Android
woah the exact same thing
cool
thanks for sharing
tribal tinsel
There are a lot of tasks to choose from, including actually having to stand up and scan a code you posted somewhere in your home
daring jay
that sounds smart
jade bolt
time to draw myself a rickroll qrcode and stick it in home
steel eagle
Whenever I have trouble waking up I just put my phone across the room
That way I have to GET UP to turn the alarm off
echo flower
vum
jovial island
@little jackal
accept my friend request
i want to discuss my ban
jovial island
oh right thanks
sinful sun
who's that guy anyway, theyre not staff here
tribal tinsel
probably someone stalking someone from different server?
sinful sun
thats silly, petty and a whole lot of other goofy british sounding insults
zealous hazel
bro this guy stacked
hazy laurel
bro this guy stacked
Amateur compared to joe
zealous hazel
WHGAR
so i see, having cat banners is the key to having ALL the badges
but the early bot dev one is not possible to get today
for it is something that is controlled by time
hazy laurel
it's not a badge
hazy laurel
but nobody
sinful sun
Joe but its hidden
zealous hazel
who has it?
hazy laurel
nobody can have it because there are multiple administrators
sinful sun
JOEMAMA
zealous hazel
nobody can have it because there are multiple administrators
democracy moment
hazy laurel
owa owa
sinful sun
Isnt crown just for server owner
hazy laurel
yes
sinful sun
Thats just joe then
hazy laurel
or that was my understanding
hazy laurel
boi what the hell boi
um... I don't use TikTok, I just like saying it
It's been at least a year since I've had that app
zealous hazel
um... I don't use TikTok, I just like saying it
same except the "i like saying it" part
hazy laurel
owa owa
zealous hazel
It's been at least a year since I've had that app
its been 13 years since i had it
zealous hazel
so you had it when you were being birthed
no
if that was the case
i wouldnt have survived my early days
hazy laurel
point proven
little jackal
so i see, having cat banners is the key to having ALL the badges
you figured it out 👀
sterile nymph
because does not make sense hug a duck, they are animals with other set of social convention
all equals what
jovial island
you figured it out 👀
accept my friend request
i want to discuss my ban
i am from tg, i’m banned from the main teenager discord so i can’t send anything there
i joined this server to try and contact you
he blocked me
@little jackal all of your moderators told me to contact YOU specifically, unblock me and accept my friend request
magic atlas
Hello @jovial island This server is not the right place to appeal a ban in another server. I'm sure the mods of that server don't particularly want to be followed around Discord. Perhaps they have an appeals email you can contact?
jovial island
They have a ban appeals form but I’m not allowed to appeal until I wait two weeks
sorry for using your server for this
The mod team there is really incompetent
always has been
tribal tinsel
They have a ban appeals form but I’m not allowed to appeal until I wait two week...
So... Why don't you wait
jovial island
So... Why don't you wait
Because I want to understand why I was banned
They permabanned me with really vague reasoning
After nearly 3 years of being in the community
tawdry salmon
.topic
rustic harborBOT
tribal tinsel
If you stalk mods, then you have even less chance of getting any info
jovial island
They just ignore me otherwise
magic atlas
They have a ban appeals form but I’m not allowed to appeal until I wait two week...
If those are their rules, then those are their rules unfortunately. I think you're unlikely to increase your chances of a successful appeal by trying to go around their appeals process.
I'd just wait it out, and participate in other servers in the mean time.
jovial island
I’m not trying to get around the appeal process, I just want to understand the reasoning for my ban so that I can actually appeal it properly
The ban reasoning they gave was incredibly vague
magic atlas
I’m not trying to get around the appeal process, I just want to understand the r...
Do you have no idea why they might have banned you? I'd just take an educated guess, or if you genuinely believe you've been banned for no reason, then state that you're unsure of the reason and would like clarification when filling out the form.
steel eagle
Judging by the behavior here I got a pretty good idea 🤣
wide totem
Lmao
wide totem
Do you have no idea why they might have banned you? I'd just take an educated gu...
The conversation is perfectly juxtaposed by the name of the channel
ornate scroll
omg this is admin chat
time to read the admin chat
whoa this admin chat is very admin-y
mental idol
The truth is out. Given an OT chat and the Admin chat you wouldn't know the difference 
fresh reef
omg im such admin
wheat aurora
The truth is out. Given an OT chat and the Admin chat you wouldn't know the dif...
I meeaaaaan, not wrong
mental idol
I am very sleepy
jade bolt
lmao
dusky cliff
loll
sudden swallow
Maybe I am a admin
hazy laurel
no me
hazy laurel
Are you challenging me?
wide totem
@shadow elk I just finished implementing my install system and it works by using pip constraints!
man I'm blind
shadow elk
👍
wide totem
but the tldr is pip will constrain what it installs to not conflict with a constraints arg
so by passing requirements.txt to that, it effectively means it will not allow any of them to be changed
so yeah
I can now run .plugs install onerandomusername/modmail-addons git @dependencies and the bot will install the plugin in folder Plugins/git from branch dependencies from github repository onerandomusername/modmail-addons which declares dependency dulwich
grim seal
does it support gitlab
gilded steeple
this action looks good https://github.com/anmol098/waka-readme-stats but the code is horrible
dim root
does it support gitlab
yeppers 😄
I will be looking into mercurial support as well but later
bitbucket with the current solution is really easy to be added
grim seal
no one uses mercurial that will use a modmail bot don't worry lol
Remember, people use what you support, you write the APIs, you define where plugins come from, don't implement things for the sake of it, implement things in ways you have full understanding and compatibility with, mercurial probably isn't one of those.
odd sphinx
^
civic plank
Surprisingly it went up faster than I thought it would
dim root
Remember, people use what you support, you write the APIs, you define where plug...
Wee thankyou for that 🙂 Will keep that in mind
odd sphinx
ayo nice!!!
civic plank
ayo nice!!!
thanks 
odd sphinx
lol
civic plank
i probably should do some cardio once in a while for the sake of my heart
echo flower
true
civic plank
think going for a jog outside once in a while would be healthier for me
echo flower
covid though
and being cramped in 1 house for 8 months to study for an exam isnt going to do good for ur body
civic plank
yeah i quarantined from march to November in 2020, so around 9 months. I was so out of shape, going outside made my fingers swell up for some reason
echo flower
oof
this is now one of my fav songs
https://open.spotify.com/track/5jB0IkgKoNeHcCObpZuPXP?si=f60dc7f5afe64bb5
civic plank
pretty good songs
icy yoke
You can do way more than that if you were to correct your method of lifting. When lifting a very heavy weight (for yourself) you can do a slight bend in the knees and then push up. I recommend watching a yt vid on the correct technique. But there are 3 main ones I believe
civic plank
You can do way more than that if you were to correct your method of lifting. Whe...
yep i think you are talking about push press
icy yoke
yeah it depends what your goals are. To lift heavy or to define your muscles etc
civic plank
i used to do that, but i switched to strict press because the program i follow, strict press is mandatory
icy yoke
that's fair. I need to get some more motivation to get back to the gym. I am so lazy I've frozen my membership for almost 2 months now
civic plank
my motivation to start going to the gym again after covid was powerlifting
something about getting stronger motivates me to go to the gym in the morning 😆
icy yoke
It's a good thing. It's the same way I think about learning. You can grow your muscles and you can also grow your brain to be stronger
civic plank
true true
echo flower
no
jade walrus
anyone eating spinach
Is that just all you talk about 😆
fossil sapphire
Is that just all you talk about 😆
yes
jovial island
Hey, I don't know where to ask this question I'm really sorry, My question is : There are a lot of Python Chat Room source codes, And the ones I've seen are only for a local network, So if I want to make a chat for me and my friends and have different networks, It needs a host right?, What type of hostings? And where to get em, And is there a way to get it for free, Or turn my computer into a host for it?, Thanks for your answers ❤️
who here uses tor
bc when i use it its in a totally different language
fossil sapphire
tor browser?
vital crown
Hey, I don't know where to ask this question I'm really sorry, My question is : ...
I mean, yes, you can turn your computer into a host. You just run the server and don't turn your computer off.
If your ISP assigns you a static IP, you can configure your router to forward a port to your computer on your LAN that you run the server on, and then other people will be able to connect to it via the IP and port from the internet.
For paid hosting there are tons of options.
I don't know of any free ones.
elfin vine
Both Google Cloud and Amazon Web Services has free tiers AFAIK
Sign up with a credit card and get some low-specced computer for free
vital crown
Oh yeah, that's right. https://cloud.google.com/free/docs/gcp-free-tier#free-tier-usage-limits Seems like you can run a small CE instance for free.
Still have to pay for the IP though, I think.
vital crown
Hey, I don't know where to ask this question I'm really sorry, My question is : ...
Why not just create a Discord server, though?
tribal tinsel
bc when i use it its in a totally different language
I'd recommend not using tor if you don't understand at lest the basics of proxies. [and certainly don't use onion urls if you don't get how tor itself works and why]
tor will make your connection untrackable (by itself, but the whole trackability also depends on how you and others use it). that means it will most of the time get your connection via some other country. if you dont have your browser set properly or website doesn't check your settings and just chooses lang by location, you will get a different language by default
civic plank
Damn. I've just gotten 40kg in for 5 reps
nice! that took me a while to get aswell
i stalled at 40kg for a month because of poor diet and sleep
jovial island
Why not just create a Discord server, though?
I do, I want my own chat app...
jovial island
For paid hosting there are tons of options.
what kind of hosting is it?
Like we need a terminal? shell? what?
jovial island
Oh yeah, that's right. https://cloud.google.com/free/docs/gcp-free-tier#free-tie...
Which one is it?
ember oar
That moment when CPython source code breaks PEP8
round moss
I believe IBM cloud will also give you sth for free, and if you are willing to put up with a completely incompetent customer service and more or less never delete your account, oracle cloud has the best free tier out of any of the clouds
ember oar
166 breakings of PEP8 in datetime
round moss
but I wouldn't really host something you value on oracle cloud
elfin vine
166 breakings of PEP8 in `datetime`
They don't accept PRs fixing it though
round moss
it's a bad service run by a bad company
ember oar
They don't accept PRs fixing it though
Why not?
elfin vine
it's a bad service run by a bad company
Hahaha
ember oar
ah
round moss
yeah, PEP8 doesn't really have enough benefits to rewrite such a massive codebase in a compliant way
ember oar
Fair enough
I was mostly looking at datetime to see if there was a way to get the coordinates the user was running now from so that tzinfo is default just for fun but I didn't even know how to implement it and it lowkey sounds illegal
The best thing would be using sockets but that would be horrible to the point of datetime
round moss
why not just inspect the system for the configured timezone?
lofty loom
I believe IBM cloud will also give you sth for free, and if you are willing to p...
Does IBM have other free stuff? 👀
Other than the Red Hat Enterprise Linux family
clever salmonBOT
vital crown
what kind of hosting is it?
Normally you pay a subscription fee and you get access to a virtual machine in a cloud. I think you can usually choose which OS it should use. Some type of Linux is popular for servers, but you can run Windows on it as well I guess.
vital crown
Which one is it?
See @elfin vine's response.
sharp spoke
top = [["S", "S"]]
bottom = [["B", "B"]]
for o in range(9):
top.append(["S", "S"])
bottom.append(["B", "B"]) # making the top and bottom
Board = list(i + ["#"]*(10 - len(i+j)) + j for i,j in zip(top, bottom))
Board = list(zip(*Board)) # converting columns into row
print("scene", 0)
print("\n".join(map("".join, Board)))
print("\n\n\n")
for step in range(3): # number of times i want to update the board
for i in range(len(top)):
top[i].insert(0, "#") # adding the spacing blocks on the top of the sand blocks
bottom[i].append("#") # adding space blocks after bubble blocks
Board = list(i + ["#"]*(len(top) - len(i+j)) + j for i,j in zip(top, bottom)) # joining the top and bottom vertically
Board = list(zip(*Board)) # converting columns into row
print("scene", step + 1)
print("\n".join(map("".join, Board))) #making it printable makes [["a","b"],["c","d"]] into
"""
a b
c d
"""
print("\n\n\n")
``` @jovial island this is what i meant yday
i hope this thing is understandable 😅 ( i am not very well with comments and stuff lol )
then you can change some stuff and some conditions to make both the blocks go in a direction and stuff
the output to this is :- #bot-commands message
ornate pelican
has anyone tried Julia lang? What are your thoughts on it? Could it possibly replace python in coming few years?
ornate pelican
ye julia focuses a lot on scientific computation , rather than dev
round moss
I do think it will replace python for data science, but for other fields it seems unlikely
slate leaf
I remember R being a big part of the discussion for data science / statistics a few years ago as well
round moss
From what I hear from people who do ds professionally here, people are slowly moving towards python instead. But yes, R is pretty neat
lofty loom
Pirates love it :p
elfin vine
How does Julia do with like C extensions or their equivalence?
Wait that doesn't look nicely
Why all this extra stuff
dusky cliff
wdym
elfin vine
Please don't tell me that you do call(:function, "library") to call a normal function?!
echo fern
you can probably make a wrapper over it
which kinda makes sense since the types are probably different anyway
bitter kite
Seems like it is time for me to learn C/C++
echo fern
Seems like it is time for me to learn C/C++
Rust??
bitter kite
After C I'll probably lean rust
echo flower
i thought i would go to c after rust
jade bolt
why bgr not rgb
jovial island
@copper tartan i have question
copper tartan
..okay?
feel free to DM me instead of pinging me in off-topic.
it's like a 1000% less annoying way to do direct communication with someone
slate leaf
I hope a lesson was learned lol. I can feel the polite frustration from here
copper tartan
sorry. it really is fine to DM me.
sharp spoke
otn a lemon-the-dm-helper
no offense lol.. But u kat and eivl might be the only people I have seen are somewhat alright with dms.. Respec
grim seal
lol
steel eagle
I mean to be fair
It's generally rude to DM someone without asking first
Unless it's a serious thing like reporting spam/scam etc
But this server has modmail for that
low sleet
it's rude to DM someone without asking first?
neat light
I couldn't care less how i'm contacted, as long as whoever is contacting me gets to the point lol
dusky cliff
I couldn't care less how i'm contacted, as long as whoever is contacting me gets...
hello sir we have been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty
keen burrow
I like good dms
neat light
is that site blocked
yeah, the point it makes isn't bad, but it's not a great way of making it lol
keen burrow
I don't say no to a random meme from time to time
vague shadow
is that site blocked
keen burrow
But the meme has to be excellent
dusky cliff
what site
slate leaf
All of these colored names in here
dusky cliff
nohello or sthn?
vague shadow
dont ask to ask
neat light
keen burrow
nohello or some garbage like that
dusky cliff
hello
keen burrow
https://hello.com when
dusky cliff
vague shadow
https://hello.com when
what kind of scam is this
keen burrow
This domain must cost so much
keen burrow
what kind of scam is this
Free nitro, legit I swear
dusky cliff
lol
keen burrow
Or CSGO skin, your pick
vague shadow
shadow elk
the @clever salmon embed does say "JUST ASK YOUR QUESTION!" but it doesn't always work
slate leaf
No bitcoin wallets? Free credit card info? smh do you even dark web bro
/s
keen burrow
Dark web is an interesting place
It has way better ads, let's be honest
Between an ad showcasing a screwdriver at lidl and one with bank notes falling from the sky and free money flashing, I mean
The screwdriver do be less illegal though
slate leaf
I just remember getting that first "Dark Web" dm from the scam group here on discord
keen burrow
Was it PGP verified?
slate leaf
😱 wait....was it?
keen burrow
You tell me
slate leaf
I deleted the message after reporting it, but it could have been
ionic locust
@broken tapir Off-topic question about the JS code you were showing. I've been learning a little JS and I was confused about the motivation behind one of the things you wrote:
return estimates.sort((a, b) => chewSort(a, b));
Why did you need to wrap the chewSort in an arrow function? Wouldn't something like this work too:
return estimates.sort(chewSort);
Or does the arrow function change the scoping rules or something?
broken tapir
No idea unfortunately, I didn't make the javascript I'm rewriting in python.
ionic locust
Oh ok, nevermind then 🍏
broken tapir
😋
round moss
@ionic locustsometimes, passing in functions like directly breaks due to the way it reassociates this, though that is more a concern for method calls than raw function calls like this one
ionic locust
<@!645672791529488404>sometimes, passing in functions like directly breaks due t...
Ah ok so it could have been a scoping thing. I've always found this + arrow functions a little confusing
jovial island
.
jovial island
its a typo
rocky coyote
Yeet
sinful sun
never use this, problem solved
lunar basin
use a better language, problem double solved
lunar basin
makes you think about that "are design patterns a real thing, or just ways to get around a bad language"
split seal
@tawdry sonnet Over here, thought we could talk about fiction in this chan w/o cluttering main
tawdry sonnet
<@!707694911356534837> Over here, thought we could talk about fiction in this ch...
sure
so I love Game of Thrones. The most impressive recent book I read was Children of Time....Do you know of any good sci-fi/fantasy novels?
split seal
the new Dune movie reminded me of how good the first of the Dune books actually was
the rest of them are varying degrees of "meh" but the first one is really special
tawdry sonnet
Hmmm. I've never read it but of course I saw the movie ages ago....
split seal
the David Lynch movie is not very faithful to the book but it's eye-filling
tawdry sonnet
What have you read recently that left a mark on you?
split seal
it's funny, I write what could be called SF & fantasy but I don't read very much of it, because I want to get inspiration from other things
tawdry sonnet
That's interesting...
split seal
most of the stuff I like in that category tends to be older, because it takes a while for a good book to prove itself
split seal
I know of the Dragonlance franchise but I only read stuff in it many years ago, didn't really stick with it
tawdry sonnet
ahhh
split seal
War of Souls I haven't heard of
tawdry sonnet
The Drizzt novels and Dragonlance are responsible for me getting into the fantasy genre but now I've grown tired of it. I was a teenager then.....
split seal
right, I read those too, way back when
tawdry sonnet
yeah. Are you working on a story right now?
split seal
Always am :D I have a book in the works I hope to get wrapped by Christmas although it may take a little longer
tawdry sonnet
we should write someting together, could be fun....
split seal
I work solo, I don't collab, sorry
tawdry sonnet
lol of course
split seal
I've tried collaborations before and I don't work well with others
split seal
I start totally from scratch with each book
I don't have a regular setting or anything like that
fossil sapphire
rc
ornate scroll
goflflflflflflflflflflflflflflfling
print("go", end="")
while True:
print("fl", end="")
print("ing")
fluid plank
Kali Linux is overrated. Change my mind
lofty loom
~~Kali Linux is overrated. Change my mind~~
Kaliloluleliladeiscope Linux
hazy laurel
~~Kali Linux is overrated. Change my mind~~
100% overrated
I do not wish to change your mind
fluid plank
I do not wish to change your mind
kali linux and hacker tools (that you can literally install in any distro)
😩
fluid plank
oh no time to run
round moss
kali does afaik does have some lower level settings which disable security stuff, but you won't need that for a long time
fluid plank
oh nvm
jovial island
kali stands for Cringe
echo flower
I agree with the name of this OT.
tender rover
who can help me with qt designer ?
jovial island
Hey guys, I've used pyinstaller to make my py scripts into exe files, But I want to do something else, Is there a way to merge to python files together into a .exe file, But one of them run on console based, And the other Windows based (hide the console)? Please answer me, If there are other ways let me know, Thanks!
jade bolt
.pyw
jade bolt
Hey guys, I've used pyinstaller to make my py scripts into exe files, But I want...
change file extension to .pyw or use pythonw.exe to execute it should remove terminal from showing
im not sure if it works with pyinstaller
jovial island
Do you know what's pyinstaller?
jade bolt
change file extension to .pyw or use pythonw.exe to execute it should remove ter...
by i mean changing file extension i dont mean changing .exe to .pyw, i mean changing .py to .pyw
jade bolt
Do you know what's pyinstaller?
i know. i find no point on changing .py to .exe so i dont use it
jovial island
I want those files
to be 1 file
And one of them run in Console
And the other hidden
round moss
well, pyinstaller cannot do that unless you write extra code to launch the two files
it requires a single entry point into the program
round moss
I am not sure, I never tried to do that
round moss
if you are ok with not having one file, you could pretty easily do it with a python script that would use embeddable python zip you use to run the two files separately
jovial island
Just
Tell me a way
To run those files
One in console and one hidden
But .exe
round moss
hmm, that seems reasonably usable
jovial island
ikr
sterile nymph
good afternoon these
wide totem
@grim seal modmail is now in an Minimal Viable Product stage 🥳
You could use it today if you didn't care about having it logged into a database
grim seal
You could use it today ~~if you didn't care about having it logged into a databa...
lol for now and probably future we'll stick with kyb3r
I do wish you the best of luck with your project though
wide totem
lol for now and probably future we'll stick with kyb3r
yeah i figured
its not usable for a prod env regardess right now
still a lot of work to be done
steel eagle
Just
Nuitka can compile python to a native executable .. but it's fairly complex to get working right
grim seal
our reason for not using is mainly that mature software is great and we already have a lot of dependence (through infractions and so on) to our modmail threads (maybe a kyb3r migration utility 😀 (but no promises, it's just not a bad idea to support migration Dragory and kyb3r))
wide totem
yeah 😛
wide totem
our reason for not using is mainly that mature software is great and we already ...
There's literally no database right now
Future plans are to add a database, log all messages to it, then make migration utils for kyb3r bot at minimum
A small advantage is once the migration for kyb3r is done, there's technically already a migrator for dragory to kyb3r
also uh
threads have gone through minimal testing right now lol
I only finished implementing the MVP this morning
floral merlin
You won't be able to log messages after April 2022
what
steel eagle
Discord API is making message content a privileged intent
slate leaf
For registered bots only right?
steel eagle
And "my bot/feature won't work without it" is not a good enough reason to get access, directly according to discord
Not for just registered bots from what I understand, you have to explicitly get permission to use it
wide totem
You won't be able to log messages after April 2022
bot is designed to be in less than 100 servers, so that won't be a problem
steel eagle
bot is designed to be in less than 100 servers, so that won't be a problem
Why not? You have to be VERIFIED to be in 100+ servers
As far as I understand you still need special access regardless of server count for message content
wide totem
No. You don't. Thankfully.
steel eagle
So they finally changed their mind
Good to know discord is only mostly idiotic
Unfortunately my bot is still screwed because of discord.py shutting down
grim seal
So they finally changed their mind
wasn't changed, it is still becoming privileged
if you are in >100 servers you need to verify, otherwise you will only receive content if:
- your bot is pinged
- the message is a DM to the bot
if you are in <100 servers you can enable it without needing to verify
grim seal
I mean, my knowledge comes from the FAQ pages, they haven't done a bad job.
steel eagle
Either way still... Discord.py is dead
Has any other similarly featured package showed up yet?
I really don't want to have to write my own type-hints-verified command system
grim seal
I mean, my knowledge comes from the FAQ pages, they haven't done a bad job.
More will come as it actually becomes eligible to apply for, overall I think it's a good change, providing they add slash command tooling for it (looking at their roadmap, there are cool features in the works)
tribal tinsel
Either way still... Discord.py is dead
not dead. just not maintained anymore. this means no updates but still works. there already are forks but fork that is only "this is d.py without any changes, use it" is not a good fork, so I'd select a fork only when they start implementing features and fixes
tribal tinsel
it has just been retired
steel eagle
no security fixes, no feature implementations (i.e. slash commands)
being unmaintained can be a security risk in literally less than a day
so
"I'ts just been retired" is not a very good arg for that
tribal tinsel
no security fixes, no feature implementations (i.e. slash commands)
that's why I said to select a fork based on stuff they do
steel eagle
okay, but like
how do we find that?
forks aren't just magically catapulted into "look how good it is"
tribal tinsel
being unmaintained can be a security risk in literally less than a day
literally anything can have 0days. even maintained things
tribal tinsel
how do we find that?
look at forks. look how they deal with reported issues. look how they deal with PRs
tribal tinsel
but without maintenance, there's no way to address it.
I've seen a lib come back after a few years of not being maintained. it's weird. I've been using a popular fork. then I noticed someone on SO asking about the original one and came there and it's surprisingly active...
steel eagle
rihgt I just don't have time to go through nearly 3000 forks to find one that looks promising?
grim seal
one will emerge
tribal tinsel
- you don't have to check this list, there are probably teams forming on d.py-oriented platforms that want to keep maintaining it
- more than half of those were probably not updated for a year or more. you can use search feature instead of this listing to find something updated recently
grim seal
right now it's a bit scattered and in disarray, it's still raw news and there hasn't been time for anything to become prominent, Nicky is right that there is no urgency and by the time there is there will be options available
tribal tinsel
ty Joe.
Wolfgirl, as I said, the argument of "but there might be a bug/security risk if it's unmaintained even for a day" is not good because even maintained stuff takes time to implement changes and stuff. and I don't believe you check every lib every day for security updates. usual process is to set the environment and leave the libs be until a bigger update comes for something...
steel eagle
you have different views than me ¯_(ツ)_/¯
call it that
If something's dead, I'm not using it, simple as that.
And until "one will emerge" there's no API lib for discord that I know of for Python
effectively.
tribal tinsel
steel eagle
sure okay
not getting any good results on google for that
¯_(ツ)_/¯
hell even googling "python discord library" only shows results for d.py and one for Disco which is also dead
guy who made that used to work for discord, not surprised that he left the discord team
he always seemed to be level-headed
not really a quality the discord team is looking for
sinful sun
discord is looking for quality?
steel eagle
quality of a person, not quality of work/product :)
we've known since at least 2018 and I'd argue probably since 2016 that discord cares not about the quality of their product at all
It's actually hilarious how horrible the search results are for python discord library -discord.py
I'll look at pycord
keen burrow
discord is looking for quality?
Is discord quality?
steel eagle
Absolutely not
grim seal
lol
grim seal
hahahaha
not in contract with discord right now
last contract was for DMA
i'm doing work for other things™️ right now
lime drum
fair, also nice
hollow heart
@chilly dagger hi did you ever finish the problem from yesterday?
and what's the name of the class that the teacher isn't letting you use builtins ? do you have a list of builtins that the teacher is not allowing?
dense pumice
hello
i wanted to ask
that does anyone love pokemon here
like poke fan
???
here
jovial island
nice
jovial island
no
dense pumice
like you can catch poke
and battle them
on discord server
and trade pokemons
and much more
jovial island
invite me ig
dense pumice
ok
hidden kernel
@dense pumice Please don't use our server to advertise your server
hollow heart
i like poke bowls
no that was not an invitation to DM me lol
i like poke bowls as in the food
@dense pumice i am not indian. do you like poke bowls?
hollow heart
why not? 😭
hollow heart
:(
storm birch
Poke bowls are incredible
hollow heart
fisher knows what's up
storm birch
Poke bowls are the one seafood joy I have in life rn, tyvm
hollow heart
poke bowls >>>> pokémon
storm birch
That's a lot of bit shifting there, mina. Careful 
hollow heart
what is shifting
fun fact in indian english "shifting" is the word used to describe moving from one house to another
storm birch
!e
print(1234566 >> 2)
@storm birch :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
308641
what black magic is this
hollow heart
magic
storm birch
Might as well be ngl
hollow heart
do 4 >s
echo flower
i wonder where the use of "101" came from
hollow heart
no you grace us with ella's presence
dusky cliff
what black magic is this
x >> 2 will yeet the last two bits of x
hollow heart
when is that useful?
storm birch
In math
hollow heart
ah, explains why i have no use for it😂
dusky cliff
its a super fast operation
storm birch
In general you can do some really fancy math that could be much more efficient than an alternative
dusky cliff
(like other bitwise operations)
hollow heart
i wonder where the use of "101" came from
i know in uni classes the intro classes are typically "[subject] 101"
storm birch
Hi vinam. It has been too long
tranquil ridge
yes
storm birch
Some still remember the old days. When I was nnlu
when I used OT to get over my breakup
tranquil ridge
lol
dusky cliff
whats a nnlu
tranquil ridge
non native linux user
tranquil ridge
yez
storm birch
Back when patryk still existed
tranquil ridge
storm birch
Whoa, what is really wild is that was before covid for the most part. Well, I became active before.
Right? Or am I dumb
How long has covid been around. Was it always like this? send help
hollow heart
you are not dumb
tranquil ridge
i joined discord after covid 
dusky cliff
we have always been at war with covid.
storm birch
Haha, a lot of people did
storm birch
Yeah, early 2020 late 2019
storm birch
December was like hmm, that might not be good
tranquil ridge
i remember walking back from school talking with a few classmates telling them about that theres a new disease
and bam the next week it became a pandemic
storm birch
Oof
hollow heart
what was the earliest case outside wuhan? bc i got really sick in dec/jan after a 4 day event with people from all over asia
storm birch
what was the earliest case outside wuhan? bc i got really sick in dec/jan after ...
You were
hollow heart
so i kinda thought i maybe had covid but i guess i'll never know
storm birch
It was probably you. That trip to Wuhan was a bad choice. Mina patient zero
I user to stay up until like 3am in OT xD now I go to bed at like 11pm 
hollow heart
lolll naw it was like in pennsylvania
but it was a big event with people that travelled from god knows where
hundreds of people packed into a room
i think it was the last 3 days of december 2019
storm birch
Its gonna be weird remembering this time xD
I dont want to stop hiding my face in public. It's so nice
hollow heart
same
storm birch
Oh also, I don't think I commented on you being blue... very cool.
hollow heart
you are looking at pydis's newest patron
together we are the colors of the ny mets
nvm not really
storm birch
Good. East coast least coast
hollow heart
storm birch
I can say that because yall are asleep
steel eagle
West coast best cost
hollow heart
east coast beast coast
hollow heart
lmao you guys can have it
steel eagle
That's why I moved to the Midwest
hollow heart
the "best" title
storm birch
I also moved to the Midwest. I claim no coast
hollow heart
midwest .. what rhymes with midwest
storm birch
LOLOL
tranquil ridge
lol
median blade
💀
steel eagle
🤣🤣
storm birch
I didn't expect that
tranquil ridge
same
jovial island
storm birch
Probably the dumbest thing I've ever said here
Very bold of you xD
steel eagle
In front of the mod too
median blade
well now all mods can see it
steel eagle
Lol
steel eagle
Forever wonder what wolfie said
or bother someone who saw it until they tell you
It wasn't even that funny tbh just the unexpectedness of it I'd reckon
tranquil ridge
yea
echo flower
anything is funny if it is just said in the right way
and by the right person (clueless ones are the best)
hollow heart
@lucid girder btw is this what i saw you use the other day? https://www.raycast.com/features
steel eagle
Hmmm
Half of that is already built into windows 11 and powertoys
Granted powertoys isn't something that comes with windows
median blade
powertoys color picker is way better
hazy laurel
so that's what that's from
grim seal
<@196664644113268736> btw is this what i saw you use the other day? https://www....
yeah i showed xith this
raycast is great
tranquil ridge
damn
i expected it to do raycasting
that reminds me my BVH tree is feeling lonely
i gotta do some rasycasting
floral merlin
I'm so so so board
same
elfin vine
that reminds me my BVH tree is feeling lonely
Binary Version History Tree?
hollow heart
yeah i showed xith this
haha would you happen to know of a good windows alternative?
i know there is powertoys run, but i am still holding on to this ancient application called launchy (http://launchy.net) which lets me catalog and index directories and file types of my choosing so i can easily find my most commonly accessed directories and files
grim seal
hmmmm, no idea of a windows alternative I'm afraid, I haven't used windows since 2014
steel eagle
Powertoys in general has a lot of what raycast does
Tbh their website makes it look like it's for windows
hollow heart
hah i was about to ask/ping you
i'm looking into it now, but do you know if powertoys run can do what i described above?
catalog directories and file types of my choosing. ALT+SPACE and then start typing the first few letters of that file or folder and hit ENTER to open it
hidden lintel
<@196664644113268736> btw is this what i saw you use the other day? https://www....
damn that looks good... is there a linux alternative 
?
steel eagle
To be honest I just use it out the box
So I don't really know what it's capable of
It Just Works™️ for me
hollow heart
looks like it indexes the C drive but i really would like to use it to access stuff on mapped network drives as well
ah i can change/modify indexing options in regular windows settings...... but need admin perms sigh
grim seal
damn that looks good... is there a linux alternative <:lemon_xd:7544418823224689...
albert i think does similar
steel eagle
I'd rather ask Jeeves
hidden lintel
albert i think does similar
thanks I'll check it out
rotund veldt
just wondering, if i remake windows in some other language exactly as it is, is it considered as plagarism?
round moss
you would probably violate the trademark on various windows logos
sinful sun
Probably definitely
rotund veldt
ah ok, other than the images and other apps? just design and behaviour
round moss
since oracle vs google ended in googles favour, you would probably be fine
but you would get sued
rotund veldt
oooh i see
i initially tot that copying the design exactly means plagirsm, but then i tot if it were the same case for os, cos like windows is completly closed source, and to remake it wud be so tough, so i wondered this
round moss
I mean, the KDE community remade windows 11 UI and no one got sued, so I don't think they would care
but also, windows is really really big
the internals are far more extensive and complex than linux or probably even mac
steel eagle
MacOS is just a locked down Unix distro with a spicy kernel :^)
round moss
honestly, the kernel is pretty cool.
I would love to use *BSD, but I need like... a useable system with basic software on it
dense pumice
nice
steel eagle
After an install of tumbleweed wiped my windows bootloader for no reason
As it was on a completely different drive that I triple checked was not selected for anything during partitioning
And networking was screwed up to the point I could only download at 500kb/s
It took me like 4 hours to get back into windows
I at that point questioned why I was using linux at all for my desktop
And realized the answer was: I have no reason
round moss
yeah, it installs grub into the default boot thing sometimes
steel eagle
It's lucky I have a lot of experience with windows
round moss
frankly, if I built a custom PC, I would use linux just to save the hundred bucks
steel eagle
Automatic repair couldn't fix it. I had to manually use diskpart
Create a new efi partition
Then use the windows bcdboot tool to make a new bootloader install
Only then did I get it
I also wiped the second NVME drive while I was there
I have volume licensing for windows anyway, I don't really pay for it anymore
round moss
ah, nice
hazy laurel
I've had problems with Windows removing GRUB, but not the opposite
round moss
I have had grub install not add windows as an option many a time
hazy laurel
I was actually skeptical that it'd work for me, but it does
round moss
but yeah, never straight up delete
hazy laurel
GRUB does indeed see that I have Windows installed
hazy laurel
Speaking of GRUB, I decided to make an alias to reboot into Windows without going through GRUB on reboot:
alias win='sudo grub2-reboot $(cat /boot/grub2/grub.cfg | grep -G "^menuentry" | grep -ni "Windows" | cut -f1 -d:); sudo reboot'
I've yet to test it... let's see if ends up working
it did indeed work
round moss
there is no linux moment greater than parsing a .cfg file with grep and cut. Impressive work
hazy laurel
hehehe I am actually quite proud of that one
round moss
yeah, I always love seeing these. I did something similar with jq on the windows terminal settings to make it display images
hazy laurel
What is jq?
round moss
a weird DSL for working with json files
hazy laurel
Is it not default on openSUSE (or at least TW)?
cause I didn't have to tinker with anything for it to detect Windows
steel eagle
Gotta add the GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false to /etc/default/grub
Make sure os-prober is actually installed
And then a sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg I believe is the file
And no it's not default on tumbleweed
hazy laurel
indeed
hollow heart
ah i can change/modify indexing options in regular windows settings...... but ne...
i got admin perms but found that it doesn't let you index network drives 
fluid plank
And no it's not default on tumbleweed
uh how? mine is tumbleweed and it detected windows
maybe i did something to the installer and forgot
hazy laurel
I think the wording was mixed up
I think it's not the default on Tumbleweed, meaning it's on
not false because that's the default
steel eagle
by default tumbleweed doesn't detect windows
perhaps there is a specific setting somewhere to enable it in the installer
but I ran literally 6 clean installs in the last week trying different things out
and not a single one had windows detected by default
sudden swallow
congrats akarys on getting 99 percentile
echo flower
is this at the bottom or at the top
jovial island
bruh
!e
import numpy as np
a = (np.arange(9) + 1).reshape((9,1))
b = (np.arange(9) + 10).reshape((1,9))
print(np.trace(a @ b))
print(np.dot(a.reshape(9),b.reshape(9)))
@jovial island :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 690
002 | 690
beautiful
dusky cliff
art
jovial island
indeed. i dint realise this property till now.
pliant trench
Does anyone have rofi installed ?
sharp spoke
Haha akarys smart kid 🛐
hazy laurel
hahaha that's funny
pliant trench
hahaha that's funny
what time is it for you :/
hazy laurel
12:52 AM
hazy laurel
:(
pliant trench
sleep is weaks, nvm
dull ridge
lmao
floral merlin
lolol
hazy laurel
wait surely I did not say that here
pliant trench
wait surely I did not say that here
U surely did
hazy laurel
uh oh
pliant trench
n that was the stupidest thing ive ever seen/heard
lofty loom
n that was the stupidest thing ive ever seen/heard
Phycereal:
Smooth... yet aged
Just like Zhongli
That was after I asked if Asiago cheese is smooth and creamy
pliant trench
lol
lofty loom
He commented the cheese is hard
pliant trench
wait srsly
lofty loom
Yes
pliant trench
lmao
rotund python
