ot2-the-original-pubsta

[echo fern]

it can only not be the case if you're predicting better than the market

[tawny hatch]

@echo fern are you familiar with risk and reward ration in day trading?

you can set one yourself

for example, lets say btc is 1$. i could bet on it to reach 2$ and that would be my tp and sl would then be at 0,5$, so if i win, im at 100% profit, if i lose im at 50% loss hence the 1:2 risk and reward ratio

this is not like gambling

you can choose how much you want to risk for what kind of reward

although this is still gambling (just not the tradition kind)

[junior moat]

it's not a 50/50 chance of going up or down, just because there are two options doesn't make it a 50/50

[blissful coral]

that just sounds like gambling with extra steps

[real forum]

Idk what you just said before makes it sound exactly like gambling

[tawny hatch]

i spent the past 2 hour arguing in another server about it

not gonna do it here anymore, but i now even more think id be profitable

[autumn hornet]

If you think you've found a way to game the system, then surely it's already known if it works, thus it doesn't work.

[sinful sun]

Pro tip, if you use the word "bet" to describe something, its gambling

[elfin vine]

In Sweden / Europe (it's apparently the same in the Netherlands) I can't bet on Twitch predictions because it's seen as gambling.

[viral hare]

ya know most ppl on wsb are just gambling

they call it day trading but its just gambling tbh

[steel eagle]

Don't you have to have an absurd amount of money to start with if you want to day trade?

I was interested in HFT but my buddy who is probably by now a millionaire if he kept the trend up, told me you have to have like 25k to start

[clear gust]

Remove the b and it still applies.

[viral hare]

some ppl just do it cuz it gives them an adrenaline rush

[tawny hatch]

leverage

[clear gust]

This is called risking bankruptcy but is exactly why it's just gambling

[tawny hatch]

no lol

all the scalpers and traders use it

if you dont know how to manage you're risk, thats a you problem

[clear gust]

Not managing risk is exactly what the financial market is doing

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tawny hatch]

what?

[steel eagle]

"If you don't know how to manage you are risk, that's a you problem"

[jade bolt]

i lost

this offtopic channel name is scamming

[grim seal]

no

[buoyant sage]

@devout loom

[jovial island]

So

[devout loom]

This should work 🤔

[jovial island]

which one do u want to import where

[buoyant sage]

a class in ytdl into playerComs

[dusky cliff]

ytdl

mfwsus

[devout loom]

# main.py
from packageone import one

one.function()

# one.py
from packagetwo import two
from packagetwo.two import SomeClass


def function():
    print("one")
    print(SomeClass)
    two.function()

# two.py
class SomeClass:
    pass


def function():
    print("two")

[jovial island]

ahh

[buoyant sage]

just for learning purposes lol

[dusky cliff]

sure

[buoyant sage]

u sure i dont really have to do anything else other than create the __init__.py file?

[devout loom]

No 👀

What's the error btw?

[devout loom]

and how are you trying to import it?

plus what file are you running?

[buoyant sage]

from Misc.ytdl import YTDLSource

im running playerComs

should i run main?

[devout loom]

That's the issue 😉

[real forum]

Smh

[devout loom]

python has working directory, and it can't import anything that's higher really

[brave shore]

So basically scratch, for discord bots you mean? If so, I can help.

[devout loom]

at least with standard imports

[buoyant sage]

yeah that makes sense

[devout loom]

So if you run playerComs cogs would be your working dir

[buoyant sage]

is it only for Python ?

[devout loom]

I dunno 😅

[buoyant sage]

i think it doesnt make sense in general lol

thanks though, helped a lot

[devout loom]

PyCharm provides your a way to change your working dir, not sure about vscode
Also perhaps it's PYTHONPATH and not work dir

pythonpath makes more sense

[buoyant sage]

idek what those that means lol

[devout loom]

Basically a path for python to search for imports in

[buoyant sage]

ahh like windows PATH

[devout loom]

If i run my one.py directly:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:/Users/DoctorWho/PycharmProjects/python/sandbox/packageone/one.py", line 1, in <module>
    from packagetwo import two
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'packagetwo'

I can manually add it into sys.path though

[buoyant sage]

makes sense

im going to have to run just main anyway

oh wait

but it actually worked on repl.it

[devout loom]

from pathlib import Path
import sys
sys.path.append(str(Path("..").absolute()))

from packagetwo import two
from packagetwo.two import SomeClass

def function():
    print("one")
    print(SomeClass)
    two.function()


function()

[buoyant sage]

maybe repl does the path adding

[mental idol]

Don't hold me to it, but using open folder in VSCode fixes any of my working directory issues.

[devout loom]

Never used vscode 🙄

I usually use jetbrains ides or something like sublime text to edit small files (configs, etc)

[jade bolt]

lol

[mental idol]

I don't run code out of it, but it's always found my venv without the issues I see others have

[buoyant sage]

looks like i have to just move in my Misc folder 😔

[restive remnant]

.. should be able to take you up a level for importing - I use it at work
i.e. from ..models.design import Design

[devout loom]

Scariest thing is 4:3 aspect ratio

[restive remnant]

What would you recommend instead?

[devout loom]

I dunno, most monitors are 16:9

[buoyant sage]

oh

[tranquil ridge]

insert your meme

[dusky cliff]

won't

[tranquil ridge]

okbr

[storm birch]

Memes are forbidden here /s

[tranquil ridge]

ye hahaha

[storm birch]

I just broke the rules, my entire existence is a meme

[tranquil ridge]

[dusky cliff]

time to ban fisher

[jade bolt]

meme, meem or me me

[restive remnant]

yes

[dusky cliff]

maymay

[restive remnant]

no

[buoyant sage]

is using ytdl for learning purposes wrong too?

[tranquil ridge]

perhaps

[buoyant sage]

:(

[jade bolt]

best pronunciation

[dim root]

ayy i got github copilot 🎉 it would have been better if i would have got it a a day or 2 back

i would been doing my codejam tasks faster

wait waht

i actually got it a minute after codejam ended

IST timezone btw

[median blade]

yes

[sharp spoke]

the otn and appearance of joe's mysterious bot is definitely a coincidence

[wild compass]

arthur bot first spoke on 7/5/21, two weeks ago #voice-chat-text-0 message

[sharp spoke]

:(( theory fail

[wild compass]

lmao no tinfoil hat for you

[sharp spoke]

:((

[brisk musk]

Wait Srsly !?

[gentle shore]

Hey

[thorn eagle]

[gentle shore]

What's 2+2?

[thorn eagle]

4

what is 0.1 + 0.2?

||0.30000000000000004||

programming problems...

[grim seal]

https://0.30000000000000004.com/

[foggy flicker]

Rick rolling rick astley would be really epic

[dusky cliff]

it has already been done

[cinder sigil]

Joe always wins

Ye

[foggy flicker]

what?!!!!!!!!

when

[dusky cliff]

reddit, last year

[foggy flicker]

lol

XD

[tranquil ridge]

damn

[dusky cliff]

the comment has two ternion awards

each of those costs roughly $120

[tranquil ridge]

bruh tf

[keen burrow]

Sounds fake

Link?

[odd sphinx]

no its real

[dim root]

i mean how can you proove him

i don't see anything like that in the ss

[median blade]

he is OP, so i guess he put some pic or something which no one has ever seen

idk

[dusky cliff]

?

reddit awards cost IRL money lol

4th one, top row is the ternion award, which costs 50000 reddit coins

you can get 40000 coins for around $100

[keen burrow]

No I mean the fact that it Rick Astley

[dusky cliff]

and around 10000 more for another $30

[dusky cliff]

oh that

no

its a verified account

[keen burrow]

Wtf

[dusky cliff]

lol

its the most upvoted post on reddit atm

[round moss]

yup, the dude is actually rick astley

[tawdry salmon]

No way

[dusky cliff]

i mean, just look at his username ‼️

[median blade]

1y

too late

[tawdry salmon]

The fact he added Really to his username is just so fishy

[dusky cliff]

no

[dusky cliff]

its in response to this

[dusky cliff]

lol

[median blade]

uh..

so

wat no?

[dusky cliff]

Ok

[median blade]

[dim root]

link?

[dusky cliff]

ye

[dim root]

Oh, that;s a lot of money spent

[jade bolt]

i assume joe will lose in utc 0:00

because the "always" period got killed by changing channel name

and then joe lost :)

[sharp spoke]

unless he sets the otn to joe always wins as default

[jade bolt]

joe lose countdown: <t:1626652800:R>

[elfin vine]

Why is Ubuntu everywhere 🤔

[round moss]

it is the easiest to use

[slow valve]

is joe cheating again?

[elfin vine]

Oh yeah I don't disagree haha. I think it's a pretty solid Linux distro. But this is supposed to be a chart to pick distros that cater specifically to your needs 😅

[round moss]

I mean, there are very few specialised operating systems

most distros are just "have a convenient OS with slightly different defaults and a different package manager"

[pliant trench]

arch for penetration testing?

hm

debatable

[somber belfry]

why?

[sinful sun]

Kali for cyber sec and penetration suite cool dragon logo

[echo flower]

why do i have a feeling a lot of people use kali because 'it looks cool'

[sinful sun]

Cant blame them if it does actually look cool

People perform better when they feel they look cool whether thats coding, sports, etc

[echo flower]

lmao

[vocal raven]

It's most versatile

[junior pike]

@left iron hi, what help do you need with emptty?

@left iron do you have that xauth binary anywhere on your system?

the author might have made some assumptions that are not valid on your machine

there you go

[odd sphinx]

@upbeat sandal didnt know u could talk normaly via modmail

as in, i thought it was just for mod stuff

[upbeat sandal]

you can send whatever you message you want with ?reply and sometimes I shitpost because of who I am as a person.

but yes, ModMail is for super serious moderation stuff

[odd sphinx]

lol

[upbeat sandal]

!warn 253696366952316929 Shitposting over ModMail threads.

[clever salmon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @upbeat sandal.

[upbeat sandal]

There.

[odd sphinx]

bruh

!warnings 253696366952316929

okay

[clever salmon]

Fetching warning for @upbeat sandal...
Infractions found:

1. fabulous

[odd sphinx]

damn

took you long enough

[jade bolt]

Joe will lose in three minutes

[full knot]

https://discord.com/gifts/UubMrGsQ4we5CRzHYXYQYgtD

[jovial island]

i use kali linux main os

1337 hacker

[elfin vine]

I use arch btw

[steel eagle]

archgarbage

[jovial island]

Ye I’m kidding I don’t use kali Linux as main os

[elfin vine]

I actually don't, please don't associate me with such cruel monsters

[jovial island]

Do u know how to dual boot ?

Win and arch

[elfin vine]

I used to dual boot with like grub

[jovial island]

Could u help me out like in a month

[elfin vine]

😅 idk man, I am bad at long-term commitment

[jovial island]

Lol okay then

No problem

[steel eagle]

My suggestion is not to use arch, otherwise the arch wiki literally has a guide for installing dual booted

[jovial island]

Why do u suggest that

[steel eagle]

because arch is nothing but a constantly breaking mess, and if you can't take the time to type a three letter word, you're really not going to enjoy taking the time to constantly fix a broken system

arch also is a distro for advanced users only, it assumes you already know how to maintain and repair a distro in any case

and know where/how/when to do things

[daring jay]

Oh god, I've been staring at code for so long that I was puzzling out what type of file path would have the words where, how, and when in it

[thorn eagle]

👍

oops i forgot to turn off ping

[daring jay]

Don't worry, Joe doesn't bite

[steel eagle]

@jovial island why did you add me

[thorn eagle]

oh.... relief

[echo flower]

lmao what

[pliant trench]

ay

+1 arch gang

[hazy laurel]

absolutely not

[pliant trench]

i bet he/she installed arch to just say "ye i use arch btw"

:P

[tranquil ridge]

server...?

arch for server?

[hazy laurel]

man

When will Arch die

Surely people realize it's not worth the hype

and what's that?

yes but how does that relate to Arch

all of that you can do on any distribution

I mean typically you'd want stable release for that kind of stuff anyways

I mean typically I'd go for an Ubuntu flavor or Leap

I, for one, love openSUSE so I'm partial to Leap in this context

[pliant trench]

[pliant trench]

yea, openSUSE would be a good choice in your case @left iron

[hazy laurel]

wdym in my case

[pliant trench]

speaking to flame

[hazy laurel]

oh.

Ricing has nothing to do with your distribution

Other distributions are as customizable as Arch is

You can make an Ubuntu flavor look the exact same as Arch, with the same amount of effort

Arch's DIY, but that truthfully provides like no insight to "freedom"/"customization"

Eventually, one realizes that the whole installation thing is completely redundant (for their use cases)

[jovial island]

@jade bolt your pfp is confusing

Hello
Light dark
Theme
Luser

?

[jade bolt]

yes

it's confusing

it shouldn't be like that tho

[jade bolt]

not intended

i didn't pick the darker color

[jovial island]

Ah

0x000000 is the best black though

[jade bolt]

only view the lighter color when you're in dark mode

view the darker color when you're in light mode

[hazy laurel]

wouldn't 0x000000 just be like... NUL000000

wonder how that works

I don't think you can have a hex number larger than... 16?

[steel eagle]

https://i.imgur.com/QDXnPFp.png

[vocal raven]

Hexadecimal no. Is 0-9 then A,B,C,D,E,F

[steel eagle]

it just ain't work well

[jade bolt]

it wont be

it works better as an image posted

[hazy laurel]

Right, I meant... whatever FF is

probably 255

[odd sphinx]

hex digit*

[hazy laurel]

:(

[jade bolt]

0xFFFFFF = 255,255,255? so uhh

[hazy laurel]

but I don't think it works like that

0xFFFFFF would be some like really large number, no? (if it was possible to have a hex digit this large)

[vocal raven]

0xF in binary is 1111

Are you converting in decimal?

[hazy laurel]

In any regard

it'd be like F * F * F * F * F * F

it'd be #FFFFFF that's 255, 255, 255

[vocal raven]

In decimal it's 16777215

[hazy laurel]

Sheesh

I'm confused

Surely there's a difference between #FFFFFF and 0xFFFFFF

where #FFFFFF is 3 numbers, and 0xFFFFFF is one

[vocal raven]

0x is the hexadecimal representation

[hazy laurel]

Yes, which would imply one number

[jade bolt]

i think there's a HUGE color list

like you can do

color[0xFFFFFF] and get white

[hazy laurel]

and #FFFFFF being 0xFF, 0xFF, 0xFF

unless 0xFFFFFF is just shorthand for that

assuming that digits cannot be larger than FF

[vocal raven]

0x is used to represent hexadecimal numbers

[hazy laurel]

Yes, I realize that

but 0xFFFFFF seems like just one big number

[jade bolt]

i bet 0xFFFFFF is the color index

[hazy laurel]

as opposed to #FFFFFF which is 3 bytes

and 3 numbers

[jade bolt]

there's 16.7 mill colors in rgb iirc

so uh 16777215 is the index of a large color table, returns white

[vocal raven]

(16777215)base 10 =0xFFFFFF

[hazy laurel]

is 0xFFFFFFF supposed to be the last color in the spectrum?

[jade bolt]

it should be

[hazy laurel]

I think that makes sense, then

Same color, different representation

0xFFFFFF would be the index, #FFFFFF would be the RGB

[jade bolt]

#FFFFFF runs at rgb and 0xFFFFFF runs as hex color i guess

[hazy laurel]

crazy

[jade bolt]

indeed

[hazy laurel]

although I wouldn't be surprised if that's just a happy coincidence

and that actually # and 0x are the same

[jade bolt]

lol

probably not, you get a base10 value after giving 0x

!e print(0xFFFFFF)

[clever salmon]

@jade bolt :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

16777215

[jade bolt]

and turning it back to hex causes more trouble

[vocal raven]

You can do by a for loop

[hazy laurel]

lmao I wonder what a gradient of all the colors would look like

[jade bolt]

i know, but why do that when you can have some large dictionary storing every stuff

[hazy laurel]

probably easy to make with something like opencv

nvm, might be hard

[vocal raven]

Yeah!

[vocal raven]

Black ig

[hazy laurel]

you'd have to cut off like... 149/150 of the colors

well... if you did a single line

Jesus, that's a ton of colors

[vocal raven]

someone explain me this meme

[hazy laurel]

HAHA

[jade bolt]

you are 2 sexci i want two fuck you

[hazy laurel]

that took me ages to get

"you are too sexy, I want to... fork you"

[jade bolt]

i got it

fun solving that

[vocal raven]

Ohhhh

[jade bolt]

4Q lol

[hazy laurel]

that was like

annoying

[vocal raven]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[slender echo]

yo @midnight mango

[rigid echo]

[sudden swallow]

well actually no

[jade bolt]

:(

[lunar basin]

that doesn't mean you didn't give it a hex literal

[jade bolt]

yes

!e print(type(0xFFFFFF))

[clever salmon]

@jade bolt :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

<class 'int'>

[jade bolt]

but you'll see that this is an integer in python

[lunar basin]

why wouldn't it be

@jade bolt

[jade bolt]

because you're giving an integer not a hex

i'm getting confused with everything right now

so uh

[round moss]

integers are not base 10, a number does not have a base

[jade bolt]

yes

but if you print(0xFFFFFF) you'll get a base 10 value

am i correct

[round moss]

sure

thats the default way python shows you numbers

so you give it a number and it shows you the same number

just about every language will work like this

well, except C

since you dont have a default way to print a number

you have to pick the repr you want

[rigid echo]

@nova ember Now are you investing in smthing or what?

[rigid echo]

@delicate lion Oh wow, I didn't see your new web! Its cool, especially with the UI

@elfin bear

Here!

[elfin bear]

Yes

[rigid echo]

So what issue is he really.

facing?

I would recommend sharing it with Moderators! Team

dm @vapid maple

[elfin bear]

He has joined the server. But he can't get past the rules agreement form.

[elfin bear]

Alright, thanks!

[rigid echo]

Sure!

[nova ember]

Yes indeed

You can thank @short cliff for the fantastic name

[rigid echo]

Oh yea seems so

Did he suggested the name in VC?

I guess so!

[nova ember]

In #off-topic-lounge-text I think. I wasn’t in VC, but he just came up with the name out of nowhere

[short cliff]

What am I being blamed for?

[nova ember]

Correction: praised

[rigid echo]

hemlock puns!

restock on puns lol!

[rigid echo]

@elfin bear Is your friend issue solved?

[elfin bear]

Yes, he's in. Thanks a bunch!

[rigid echo]

[proper python]

i need someone to explain me some major tensorflow bullshit

(before training)

:)

:(

NotImplementedError: Cannot convert a symbolic Tensor (strided_slice:0) to a numpy array. This error may indicate that you're trying to pass a Tensor to a NumPy call, which is not supported

[jovial island]

uhm. try casting it to numpy type?

[proper python]

i have

[dusky cliff]

SO suggests downgrading numpy

[proper python]

to which

[dusky cliff]

https://stackoverflow.com/a/65993776

1.19.5

[median blade]

19.4

sheesh

i thought i had it byheart

[proper python]

no no hold on then explain why this works

[jovial island]

this may not be relevant to your code but 2nd answer suggested that make sure to use tensors everywhere

[proper python]

riddle me this, batman

[dusky cliff]

🤷

[jovial island]

one or two GitHub links suggested to downgrade python to 3.6

[proper python]

that still doesn't explain why one works but the other doesn't

oh nvm i found it

wait, no, i didnt

both prediction inputs use tf.random.normal

and it can't have something to do with it getting trained, since the non-func version works even after erroring out

i guess the only thing that changes is that one's in a function and the other isn't?

alright, no

it must be something to do with it getting called inside the train function

oh yeah, so that's it

it's getting called in a tf.function

[elder path]

?

[jovial island]

Are there good motivational coding/python videos?

@gloomy current

[jovial island]

hi

oftopic

[tall cobalt]

do you all know jackbox games?

[real forum]

Mmhm

[tall cobalt]

i was gonna ask if you all want to play but i have class now 🥲

[proper python]

yikes

i have 49 left

[final sable]

Gee thanks

[sharp spoke]

interesting name

[rotund python]

What is better Xbox or Playstation?

[tranquil ridge]

pc

[echo flower]

yes

[rotund python]

I have the same opinion, but that's my friend choosing

he wishes to choose only between xbox and playstation

[sharp spoke]

@echo flower the about

[echo flower]

idk man

[sharp spoke]

what

[autumn hornet]

pc

[jovial island]

…?

[sharp spoke]

but what is the otn

[odd sphinx]

hmm

[sharp spoke]

i am tempted to ping joe to ask but ||admins n mods scary||

[rigid echo]

@Joedid it

simple as f

[sharp spoke]

but it doesnt ping 🤷

[rigid echo]

it pings!

Ask vivek

@somber belfry right? can't you remember that moment @Moderators

[sharp spoke]

@Srijandev#1715 does it tho

[somber belfry]

that doesn't ping

but <@id> pings

[rigid echo]

uh sarcasm!

[rigid echo]

no.

[somber belfry]

sarcasm not allowed

[odd sphinx]

/s

[rigid echo]

oh really?

I don't trust you Vivek

😛

[steel eagle]

I want to work on something in another language than the normal Python/Rust/C/C++/C# I work on but

there's no point in using any other languages

the only other modern language that actually has traction is JavaScript...which also happens to be the worst programming language that's used in modern times

[tranquil ridge]

i heard about zig or smth

ew

[steel eagle]

I can't do pure functional

I don't have a chance in hell at learning haskell

[dusky cliff]

java

[steel eagle]

Java is dead

*For anyone except enterprise users

[wild compass]

java is the lang taught at my school lol

[steel eagle]

It's also not a very good language notwithstanding being killed off by crappy license

[dusky cliff]

julia

its the hot new thing

[steel eagle]

Julia hot and new?

😂

but no seriously, I'm not really interested in learning languages that are stagnant/too new

hence my statement of "there's no point in using any other languages"

[dusky cliff]

🤔

its released in 2012

that is as new as it gets

rust is older than that

[steel eagle]

Dart released in 2013 and look where it landed

[wild compass]

kotlin if you dont want java?

[odd sphinx]

where did it land

[dusky cliff]

on land

[steel eagle]

Go hit 1.0 in 2012

[dusky cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/855798046092165130.gif?v=1&size=40

[odd sphinx]

nice

[steel eagle]

Still relies on Java though

it's just syntax on the JVM, so you have the same license issues as Java,

[wild compass]

hm

[steel eagle]

Though I will say, I've used Kotlin for Android work recently

it's a very nice language but the function definitions infuriate me

[wild compass]

how abt rockstar

[steel eagle]

doesn't sound like something that is very popular

[wild compass]

https://codewithrockstar.com/

[steel eagle]

oh it's a joke lang

[wild compass]

its a joke lang lol

ye

[median blade]

what about dart huh 😠

[steel eagle]

ain't no one use dart

[odd sphinx]

damn

dart sad

it has some cool features tho

[steel eagle]

It does, I actually a few years ago did a really cool, and actually meaningful/useful project in Dart

but I was, unfortunately, overcome with death threats and harassment from it

[median blade]

i mean, flutter devs do, other than that, its not used for anything,yes

[dusky cliff]

??

[steel eagle]

I know huh

[median blade]

hmm

dart does uh transpile(?) to js

so it can be used for that too ig

[odd sphinx]

what the hell did u make

[odd sphinx]

damn

[soft quiver]

dylan beattie is

[jovial island]

off topic but
Look at my beauties ❤️

[echo flower]

wtf did u make O_o

[proper python]

i think my gan is going through a phase

[sharp spoke]

what?

what is this even

[lucid osprey]

image generation?

what're you doing?

[sharp spoke]

but what is it even

[proper python]

At 31 epochs old, his dream is to "draw anime pfps in grayscale"

He's um

I should've pulled out when I had the chance

[lucid osprey]

the generated images would be making more sense overtime..right?

the more you continue generating them.

[proper python]

That's the idea

I honestly have no idea what I did wrong

oh wait

the mnist dataset use 60000 images

[lucid osprey]

how terrible did it look the first time?

[proper python]

i have 600

[lucid osprey]

oh

[proper python]

it's just random noise at epoch 1

[lucid osprey]

hmm

[round moss]

overfitting go brrr

but honestly, it isn't even doing that

[lucid osprey]

so you give it sample images and it trains on it?

[round ferry]

hello

[lucid osprey]

hey!

[proper python]

yeah

[lucid osprey]

hm

[proper python]

the idea is that the discriminator and generator train at the same time

[lucid osprey]

also is it not capable yet of using colours other than those from white to black?

[proper python]

i could try doing colors but i'm doing grayscale for simplicity rn

[lucid osprey]

hmm

[jade bolt]

wow gan network

[proper python]

wow, you can read!

[jade bolt]

but i can't write

[lucid osprey]

I'm gonna have to google what a discriminator is.

[jade bolt]

discriminator discriminates you

[proper python]

guesses whether the generated image is real or not

[lucid osprey]

real?

[jade bolt]

it guess if data is true or false

[proper python]

if it matches the dataset

[lucid osprey]

oh

[proper python]

except anime

[lucid osprey]

right.

[proper python]

maybe i should increase the number of layers to match increase of resolution?

cuz the code im using was built for 28x28 images

[sharp spoke]

i have no idea how this training thing works >:((

[jade bolt]

is there a platform i can learn advanced math i sucks at it

[proper python]

i dont either

i was too lazy to read an intro course

[round moss]

3b1b is a great source for just about everything math adjecent

[proper python]

so im just copying code and hoping it works

[jade bolt]

you can train 3d models, it'd be fun

[jade bolt]

ty

[proper python]

that would require so many more data points and so much more time

[sharp spoke]

thats piracy

[round moss]

most ML code is under MIT/BSD licenses

[jade bolt]

so as long as you contribute uhh (for example add a random comment line) it'd be fine

[round moss]

you can just use it

[proper python]

needless to say, im dissapointed

[jade bolt]

private use is ok in mit iirc

[round moss]

even public use, as long as you keep the license with the MIT code

[jade bolt]

i like that art tbh. it's so good

you're but i'm not

[lucid osprey]

I have no idea whats happening in that

[sharp spoke]

guys if i have to get msgs from some telegram channel in python... what should i use?

[proper python]

i'll try increasing # of layers and try again

[proper python]

what?

oh

probably some kind of telegram api

[sharp spoke]

yeah but it has directly a bot api

iirc

[daring prairie]

is there a javascript discord?

[jade bolt]

wdym

[daring prairie]

like the python discord

[jade bolt]

idk

[exotic hound]

any answer for this?

[vague shadow]

because you can have multiple classes in a single file

[jovial island]

!guilds has some, I think

[clever salmon]

Communities

The communities page on our website contains a number of communities we have partnered with as well as a curated list of other communities relating to programming and technology.

[exotic hound]

As far as I know, if you declare two classes in one file, the classes that don't match the filenames will be split into another file.

// Cat.java
public class Cat {}
class Dog {}

will generate Cat.class and one more class file

[vague shadow]

when complied yea sure

but there can be more than one class in a java file

[exotic hound]

okay so that's it, not very useful but well ok.

also thanks for the answer

[vague shadow]

It's useful for keeping the source code neat

if two classes that relate to each other having them in the file is useful

what happens when compiled doesn't matter

since as a dev you don't interact with the compiled files directly

[vague shadow]

this wouldn't work anyway, since afaik public classes need to be in their own file

[round moss]

class Dog is not a public class

package private classes can share files

[vague shadow]

Ah i didn't realise, I thought public classes had to be in a single file

[round moss]

they do

one public class per file

[vague shadow]

thought so yea

[round moss]

but class Dog does not create a public class

[proper python]

i just don't think im a good parent

[echo fern]

maybe your child is too simple and need to be discarded for one with a bigger brain

so that it at least overfits on the 60-pic dataset

[proper python]

i have increased the brain size again for attempt # 3

[proper python]

600

[echo fern]

ah

[proper python]

also i now have 100 epochs

[round moss]

are you at least using google collab?

[proper python]

so maybe thtat'll do something

[proper python]

no, im running it locally

[echo fern]

why'd one use google collab as a default? do they provide really good GPUs or something?

[proper python]

idk

[round moss]

I found collab to be much faster even without a GPU, but yes, you also get a GPU (unless they changed that recently)

maybe I just have a bad CPU

[echo fern]

you do get a GPU, but is it comparable to using your own?

[proper python]

idk

[echo fern]

I did notice that collab gets you some nice CPUs too, though - some CPU stuff performs faster there than on my computer

[round moss]

well, I can't run most things on my GPU due to low CUDA version, but it seems to be a little worse than a 1080Ti

so IG depends when you got your device

[proper python]

wait so does colab run things on your machine or does it get sent to a server?

[round moss]

sent to a server

google runs the notebooks

I could also be googling wrong about what GPUs they use

[jovial island]

server, they got good GPU.

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 465.19.01    Driver Version: 460.32.03    CUDA Version: 11.2     |
|-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name        Persistence-M| Bus-Id        Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp  Perf  Pwr:Usage/Cap|         Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|                               |                      |               MIG M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
|   0  Tesla T4            Off  | 00000000:00:04.0 Off |                    0 |
| N/A   42C    P8    10W /  70W |      3MiB / 15109MiB |      0%      Default |
|                               |                      |                  N/A |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes:                                                                  |
|  GPU   GI   CI        PID   Type   Process name                  GPU Memory |
|        ID   ID                                                   Usage      |
|=============================================================================|
|  No running processes found                                                 |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

precise details

[daring jay]

Might want to uh, code blockify that

[jovial island]

ah

[soft quiver]

T4s are the low end of what colab does

you can get V100s sometimes

@little void remember the pre-mch days of v100 farming

[little void]

oh hell yeah

still have the spreadsheets and code

[soft quiver]

the good 'ol days of using google sheets as a database

[little void]

k80 👀

[soft quiver]

i think all the k80s are phased out now

[little void]

k80/p4/t4/p100/v100

oh fr?

[soft quiver]

yeah

lowest is a p4 now

[little void]

they’re probably in a dumpster somewhere now

[soft quiver]

still no a100s

[little void]

I was surprised when they added v100s tbh.

They could easily do a100 MIG 👀

[soft quiver]

i wish i could pay for colab premium

but its US only

i want moar v100

[little void]

I’m honestly still amazed how cheap it is compared to GCP

[soft quiver]

google undercutting itself is nothing new

[little void]

technically >$0.00 is profit for them now

iirc everything on colab is using renewable energy and they’re using hardware that would just be idle

[whole condor]

can someone explain the channel name to me?

[proper python]

No

[jade bolt]

joe's rotten 2 year gap

[blissful coral]

lol you can use it anywhere

don't report me pls

as long as your address is in USA, you can even use other countries' credit cards

[proper python]

its just rotating whyyyyy

[somber belfry]

You spin me right 'round baby right 'round

[quiet depot]

wtf

[median blade]

wtf

[indigo solstice]

hahaha

🇵 🇴 🇬

[steep ruin]

hahaha

[hollow heart]

@marsh flame what is your actual question/aim?

[marsh flame]

no not aim just the 3D code

oh sorry aim too

[proper python]

i give up

im going to go read

god damn it

its just lectures

im not smart enough to read

[hollow heart]

unfortunately one reason I think noone is helping you is because it's not clear what you are looking to do. do you have an example?

[quiet depot]

I'm always trying

[wind wadi]

Pretty sure you can get a V100 GPU, if not at least a P100 GPU by not using a pre-made notebook in Colab, but if you make one yourself, and copy the code over, colab should give you better GPU. As long as before you did this, you weren't using their resources too much. Colab manages the type of GPUs to people who either pay for it or to people who haven't used it much

I know, because I've tried, if you don't get a good GPU right away, just factory reset your colab runtime until you get one, but it still really depends

[quiet depot]

V100 GPU P100 GPU what are this things

[echo fern]

.catify ConfusedReptile

[rustic harbor]

ConfusedReptile ᕂᘏᗢ

[echo fern]

wait, that's not #bot-commands

[echo flower]

ah yes jake did very great

[wild compass]

how many ot names does jake have? lmao

[hollow heart]

too many lmao 😂 @ripe hedge

[ripe hedge]

@storm birch can you give us an updated count?

I think I have like 6

[wild compass]

no way, there were like 6 in the last week

oh wait, no, i was thinking of joe

hmm i cant remember if they were joe or jake now

[exotic hound]

what does O(n) mean?

I've read wikipedia, but I don't understand

[lunar basin]

the runtime will scale linearly as the input size grows

[hidden kernel]

in other words if you double the size of the input, the runtime (roughly) doubles

which is not the case for all algorithms

[sacred field]

it's probably not clear because you don't have enough context.

Might help to think about O(1)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation#/media/File:Comparison_computational_complexity.svg

also a thing the big-O people don't tell you is that big-O is the asymptotic upper bound runtime. Little-o is simply an upper bound. Sometime big-O and little-o are the same, but usually not.

that img is better

[lunar basin]

that's not really true

big O is the asymptotic upper bound, while little o is simply an upper bound

[sacred field]

sure, but I found it less confusing to understand that big-O isn't absolute and obviously runtime depends on input, particularly when starting trying to understand from scratch

[exotic hound]

🤯

never mind, better sleep

thanks

[sacred field]

good luck

[lunar basin]

big-O simply isn't the maximum runtime though

[sacred field]

of course yes! go on and explain it in a way easy for a novice to understand ...

[lunar basin]

sure, it's simply how your runtime scales as your input size scales

[sacred field]

but what do you do when someone says that they don't understand what this means?

[lunar basin]

you ask what they don't understand and address it

you don't have to sacrifice accuracy even when explaining to someone who knows nothing

[echo flower]

what a way to roast me lmfao

[jade bolt]

Jake did great in doxxing?

[real forum]

Indeed

[quiet depot]

what is doxxing

[jade bolt]

don't ask

you'll be doxxed

[median blade]

what is it supposed to be

[quiet depot]

it was fun while not a threat

[sharp spoke]

ikrr

"jake did great by doxxing people"

interesting

[unreal sigil]

@ornate scroll a split keyboard is worth a shot for shoulder pain

Your shoulders are able to rotate outwards to a more normal position rather than inwards

And in my experience it tends to prevent slouching as well

[ornate scroll]

ok cool

[stuck summit]

https://twitter.com/WholesomeMeme/status/1417514639726809090?s=19

WholesomeMemes (@WholesomeMeme)

https://t.co/KNcAXLbo2q

Retweets

3506

Likes

49334

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[sharp spoke]

interesting

[dusky cliff]

interesting

[tranquil ridge]

interesting

[jade bolt]

interesting

[tranquil ridge]

or

[craggy mountain]

Bro @jovial island

[jovial island]

What is it

Nonono

i dont do requested help

[median blade]

[jovial island]

i help when its interesting

🙂

[craggy mountain]

@jovial islandboy or girl?

[rigid echo]

lol

[wild compass]

why boy or girl tho, not everyones a child

[rigid echo]

I am a student

[tranquil ridge]

tkinter is already installed, your problem is you are doing py from tkinter import * which should be py from tkinter import *

[rigid echo]

[tranquil ridge]

but * isnt really that good tho

[craggy mountain]

ok ok wait

[median blade]

also, you did not add root.mainloop()

[rigid echo]

!star-imports are bad for other developers if they are going through your code.

[clever salmon]

Star / Wildcard imports

Wildcard imports are import statements in the form from <module_name> import *. What imports like these do is that they import everything [1] from the module into the current module's namespace [2]. This allows you to use names defined in the imported module without prefixing the module's name.

Example:

>>> from math import *
>>> sin(pi / 2)
1.0

This is discouraged, for various reasons:

Example:

>>> from custom_sin import sin
>>> from math import *
>>> sin(pi / 2)  # uses sin from math rather than your custom sin

• Potential namespace collision. Names defined from a previous import might get shadowed by a wildcard import.
• Causes ambiguity. From the example, it is unclear which sin function is actually being used. From the Zen of Python [3]: Explicit is better than implicit.
• Makes import order significant, which they shouldn't. Certain IDE's sort import functionality may end up breaking code due to namespace collision.

How should you import?

• Import the module under the module's namespace (Only import the name of the module, and names defined in the module can be used by prefixing the module's name)

>>> import math
>>> math.sin(math.pi / 2)

• Explicitly import certain names from the module

>>> from math import sin, pi
>>> sin(pi / 2)

Conclusion: Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those! [3]

[1] If the module defines the variable __all__, the names defined in __all__ will get imported by the wildcard import, otherwise all the names in the module get imported (except for names with a leading underscore)
[2] Namespaces and scopes
[3] Zen of Python

[craggy mountain]

@rigid echo tysm bro.. and here what is font?

[rigid echo]

You should thank @tranquil ridge instead of me!

[craggy mountain]

@tranquil ridgeThanks brooo

[rigid echo]

Can you please elaborate?

[craggy mountain]

see that font

[rigid echo]

Your cursor gets over it, I can't really see it

[tranquil ridge]

font is a keyword argument here, you forgot to add a comma before it,, font =

[craggy mountain]

What is wrong there?

[jade bolt]

tkinter is builtin

[rigid echo]

hmm

[jade bolt]

missing comma

[craggy mountain]

@jade boltSo now?

Shit

I do so many silly mistakes

[jade bolt]

line 6 before font= missing a comma ,

[craggy mountain]

Lmao

I want to improve my developing skills how can I?

[rigid echo]

Have you learned basics first?

[craggy mountain]

Yeah

I k basics

Like if else, variables, etc

[rigid echo]

Uh so, why are you doing silly mistakes that you have already learn?

Ok, cool?

[craggy mountain]

Yeah actually I am currently doing a course

SO I just want to develop my skills

So I am practicing

madlibs

[rigid echo]

Oh cool which course?

[craggy mountain]

calculator and all

[craggy mountain]

FSD in Python

Full stack dev

[rigid echo]

Hmm cool, you should continue with it

I hope you do it regularly

[craggy mountain]

no

I am not attending classes

My PC cant run more than 2 apps

[rigid echo]

Uh I mean you are doing the course regularly

[craggy mountain]

I run VS code and chrome only

[rigid echo]

right?

[craggy mountain]

no

[rigid echo]

That's okay!

[craggy mountain]

I can't run 3 apps

[rigid echo]

So, no problem

[craggy mountain]

if I run my gets

[jade bolt]

eval("1+1") yay calculator done

[craggy mountain]

LoL

[jade bolt]

it works tho

[craggy mountain]

ok

ok

[jade bolt]

!e print(eval("1+1"))

[clever salmon]

@jade bolt :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

2

[rigid echo]

I saw a guy computer in which only 1 app can run, he is now a software engineer

[craggy mountain]

!e print(1+1)

simple

LoL

[rigid echo]

So, u have to just continue with what you are doing right now!

Good, Cya!

[craggy mountain]

ok

I will

I am

and I was ratted

15 days ago

So I missed the course

I have recordings tho but

not possible to catch up everything

I am trying to get a new batch

[rigid echo]

[clever salmon]

Hey @craggy mountain!

It looks like you tried to attach a Python file - please use a code-pasting service such as https://paste.pythondiscord.com

[rigid echo]

!paste @craggy mountain

[clever salmon]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pydis.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the floppy disk icon in the top right, or by typing ctrl + S. After doing that, the URL should change. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

Hey @craggy mountain!

It looks like you tried to attach a Python file - please use a code-pasting service such as https://paste.pythondiscord.com

[craggy mountain]

.

[steel eagle]

Some people can't be helped

[sinful sun]

youre not gonna have a fun time if you start spamming for the voice privileges

[vocal raven]

it depends

[wheat aurora]

@ripe hedge you did great!

[rigid echo]

@toxic belfry bruh yk beluga?

[lucid osprey]

haha the same pfp

[rigid echo]

lmfao, you see vids?

[lucid osprey]

a couple.

[rigid echo]

of beluga??

[lucid osprey]

....

[rigid echo]

lol, that's fun

[toxic belfry]

yeah dude.

[rigid echo]

the growth tho

bang

[lucid osprey]

yeah it was rapid

within a few days or so, 1 million

[rigid echo]

yea 🆙

and 🆙

[toxic belfry]

yeah his discord videos are funny

[rigid echo]

hmm lester

and hecker

[toxic belfry]

pablo

[rigid echo]

hecker was the latest one?

ig

yeah

[toxic belfry]

yeah

[jovial island]

HOW DI CODE HELO

HELP

[rigid echo]

@jovial island You should see resources

!resources

[clever salmon]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

https://pythondiscord.com/pages/resources

[jovial island]

oh sheesh ty

[rigid echo]

[jovial island]

I still dont understand any of it

[wheat rock]

Stick to automate the boring stuff book

[sudden swallow]

pls daily

[ripe hedge]

I appreciate the kind words!

[sudden swallow]

yep jake you did great congrats

[median blade]

did great in what

[keen burrow]

jake did great indeed, grats jake!

[daring jay]

Good job Jake!

Q & A

Yes

The owners q&a event

Jake was the question asker human

[sharp spoke]

nice

[cedar leaf]

Wait @ripe hedge did great? Awesome!

[ripe hedge]

Hey, I do exceptionally well on most things

Except databases

[delicate lion]

lmao we have two jake channels

[rugged portal]

Jake did do great at the event

[somber belfry]

oh yeah, he did do great

[neat light]

welcome to another episode of AAAAH WHY WONT YOU JUST WORK. Today: GitHub workflows

I was soooo close with the last one

[wild compass]

seems like a frustrating show

[neat light]

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

[wild compass]

nice

[odd sphinx]

nice

[pliant sorrel]

You can build Mac stuff on GitHub actions?

Is it free btw

I can't build certain stuff for apple products due to it requiring xcode

[neat light]

yeah it's free, pretty cool stuff https://docs.github.com/en/actions/using-github-hosted-runners/about-github-hosted-runners#supported-runners-and-hardware-resources

I go through exactly the same thing every time I try and change something lol

[pliant sorrel]

Wow I thought this stuff is freemium

[neat light]

there are usage limits but they're pretty generous, should be more than enough unless you're doing some crazy stuff https://docs.github.com/en/actions/reference/usage-limits-billing-and-administration#usage-limits

[pliant sorrel]

Wow this seems to be very cool

I thought it was much more capped

[amber igloo]

hello guys
i am new to python coding and will be buying a new laptop soon
so do i need a dgpu
for coding related workflows
and if yes then how good should it be

[hazy laurel]

The simple answer is no

[amber igloo]

okay

thx

so omen 15 with 1650 ti and ryzen 7 4800h should be fine right

[hazy laurel]

more than

How much is it?

[neat light]

Rate my project banner https://github.com/wookie184/dupesearch

[elfin vine]

4/4 stars

[neat light]

lol

[keen burrow]

Hahaha, I can relate soooooo much

Noice project banner

I would add a bit more contrast or shading to the stars

[broken summit]

@haughty lotus

re: #ot0-fear-of-python message

so

here is the break-down of my algorithm, more or less

1. initialize an accumulator string
2. transform the set of triplets into a set of pairs
3. find the last letter (the letter that only ever appears in the final position in a pair)
4. find the first letter (the letter that only ever appears in the forward position in a pair)
5. append the letter found in step 4 to the accumulator string
6. remove all pairs that begin with the letter found in step 4
7. if the set still contains pairs, go back to step 4, otherwise if it is empty, continue
8. append the letter found in step 3 to the accumulator string
9. return the accumulator string

step 2 is pretty simple, all you have to do is for every triplet (a, b, c), you add (a, b) and (b, c) to your set of pairs

the thing that's challenging to implement efficiently is steps 3 and 4

but done right, it should be at most linear time

[neat light]

Do the stars not make it clear???

Nah jk it was just the first shape button I saw in inkscape lol

It searches a directory and finds files with the same contents. I made it because I have like 50gb of random photos and they all have a bunch of (exact) duplicates for some reason, so I wanted to delete the dupes so there was only one copy of each.

I also wanted to learn rust, and it seemed like a nice simple project to get started

And I wanted to use GitHub actions, but we all know how that turned out

[haughty lotus]

bro that's so much smarter than my solution

time to kermit salsacide

[broken summit]

qwq

[haughty lotus]

whatever im still happy enough with my solution, it works, just i cant implement it, still, yours is simpler and smarter

[broken summit]

i know someone in another server that did it based off of constructing a graph and then walking it but i haven't yet taken the time to understand it

[haughty lotus]

i think maybe mine could've been faster? im not very sure

i only iterate over the triplets twice, possibly once

once if i stored the constraints the first time i was looping

[broken summit]

hmm

[haughty lotus]

im gonna try to implement mine just out of pride

[broken summit]

lol

[haughty lotus]

plus i'd feel bad if i got kyu off of your solution

[broken summit]

:p

https://www.codewars.com/kata/552c028c030765286c00007d/train/rust

😭

"evenness"

[haughty lotus]

oh i saw that one

it's pretty easy no?

i figured you could just see the first and last evennesses and if they're equal, that's the one you want to see, and if they aren't, compare them to a third one, and you already have the wrong one, but if they're the same you just iterate over the list ignoring the ones you already saw at the start

[round moss]

honestly, codewars has the issue where haskell high kyu tasks are far too easy

like, look at this https://www.codewars.com/kata/5470c635304c127cad000f0d/train/haskell

you can do that with just some parser combinators

I am 4kyu and spent probably like 10 hours total on the site, most of which was spent messing around in a prove addition is commutative 1kyu (still can't quite get that one)

[elder path]

Lua is bad

[void horizon]

yes

absolutely

its only good for embedding and even then, I'll struggle to embed python instead

like I know its painful but its so much pain free coding after that instead of luas stupid syntax

[broken summit]

k

[sudden swallow]

https://c.tenor.com/skezuWaOezMAAAAM/egg-frank.gif

[steel eagle]

lua ain't that bad

don't be babby

[jade bolt]

may i have @mental idol please
you're an egg correct?

[sharp spoke]

hello @jade bolt

[mental idol]

[gilded steeple]

from dataclasses import dataclass


@dataclass
class Line:
    check: bool
    value: float


lines = [Line(True, 5.0), Line(False, 15.0), Line(True, 3.0)]

print(sum(line.check and line.value for line in lines))
print(sum(line.value for line in lines if line.check))

I didn't know first one will work too

[rustic jasper]

wassup bois

hi wassup BOIS

AND GURLS

[real forum]

Hey

[jade bolt]

ey