ot1-perplexing-regexing

[mild abyss]

🤣

[slender mirage]

I like ur name lmao

🗿

[rough sapphire]

mm k?

[lusty rune]

honestly it felt pretty scuffed to me, it would've been very nice if they kinda normalized(?) it

[hidden pebble]

yeah, using the like to dislike ratio wasn't a good idea at all

[jaunty wraith]

!e import gravity

[royal lake]

@jaunty wraith :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 | ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'gravity'

[jaunty wraith]

sad

[surreal otter]

If you wanted to create a live chat using web workers, where would you begin?

[errant sail]

@vague egret they want us to move channels.

@rough sapphire

[vague egret]

okie

[errant sail]

I forgot who else was talking to us.

But yeah my bs is in environmental science

[vague egret]

cool

[errant sail]

MS in software development

[rough sapphire]

Oh

[rough sapphire]

Why tho

[vague egret]

@errant sail I was lost amongst all those channels

found it again

LMAO

[errant sail]

I wanted to work with AI in the Agriculture field but I been struggling

[rough sapphire]

Oh why

[vague egret]

These stuff's are complex

[errant sail]

[tranquil orchid]

Electrical and Computer systems engineering for me

But I dabble in a bit of aerospace

[latent scaffold]

I still can't pick a degree to pursue

[vague egret]

So which languages do you work with?

[tranquil orchid]

Rockets go zoom

[latent scaffold]

I think I'm torn mostly between computer science and mechanical engineering

[rough sapphire]

Oh yes lol

[dapper dew]

Mech Eng ftw

(totally not biased)

[errant sail]

Like the Seriously AI should exist in agriculture

[tranquil orchid]

Python, C, bit of matlab

Stuff and things

[vague egret]

for me it's JS PHP PYTHON C and assembly

[rough sapphire]

What is last one

[tranquil orchid]

Heavily used in scientific computing

[rough sapphire]

I've know python Java css html php and android

[latent scaffold]

Is that what you went with?

[tranquil orchid]

One of the few (if not only) popular proprietary languages

[dapper dew]

Yup

[latent scaffold]

I was told to imagine a graphing calculator on steroids

[tranquil orchid]

Yeah pretty much

[errant sail]

Im seconds away from paying for a cert in computer engineering

[vague egret]

AI is just manual coding.. image processing stuffs needs ML , just a wild guess

[latent scaffold]

How'd that work out for you? \🤔

[tranquil orchid]

I enjoy a healthy mix of electrical and programming stuff

Just pure programming would drive me crazy

[dapper dew]

I'd say pretty well

[rough sapphire]

The steroids??

[vague egret]

I wanted to learn electronics but sadly components are not available in my nation

and I am not old enough to have a international payment card

[latent scaffold]

ah yes. watch me major in "soil science"

[tranquil orchid]

I wouldn't mind doing aerospace either, but there just isn't a huge industry for it in Australia, so I'll just keep it as more of a hobby for now

[errant sail]

I’ve played with a few code languages but I’ve been heavy on building websites in AWS lately

[vague egret]

hmm I seeeeee

[latent scaffold]

I had an aerospace class in high school

[tranquil orchid]

In highschool 👀

[latent scaffold]

indeed

It was...

[acoustic moss]

name every planet

[latent scaffold]

well I think actually it kinda sucked

[errant sail]

My cousin is coming to Australia to get her masters in cyber security

[jaunty wraith]

that will take a long time

[tranquil orchid]

Although Australia is sort of starting up a space industry, so I guess I'll see what happens

[last mantle]

😞

[tranquil orchid]

I can go into any industry with Electrical and Computer Systems anyway

[errant sail]

I wanna do more with my code but I feel I need a partner to help me think more because I be overwhelmed doing it alone. 😂😂

[latent scaffold]

I'm having trouble remembering what kind of spaghetti my very excellent mom made

[latent scaffold]

anyways... I think I liked what the class offered but I don't like how our teacher delivered it to us

[dapper dew]

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus

[lusty rune]

india suffers heavily from bad teachers

[last mantle]

every planet

[lusty rune]

machine learning was such a boring subject for us because it went over everyone's heads

[dapper dew]

That is every planet in this solar system

[last mantle]

he did not ask that did he

[acoustic moss]

pluto is a planet as far as im concerned

😠

[tranquil orchid]

Baby planet

[acoustic moss]

he'll grow

[dapper dew]

He did not specify that

[tranquil orchid]

Yeah that sounds about right

[dapper dew]

When I was a kid, Pluto was a planet!

[latent scaffold]

Why do we have but not :minus1:

[tranquil orchid]

I considered doing Robotics and Mechatronics - AI stream as well

But I think Electrical and Computer Systems is the way to go for me

[latent scaffold]

I mostly want to go into mechanical engineering for things like robotics

[lusty rune]

the only reason i got invested into electrical/microprocessors is because the teacher was solid 💯

too bad i picked cs instead of electrical 🗿

[tranquil orchid]

Do mechatronics if it's available

[last mantle]

you would have to group in a bunch of kuiper belt objects too then, like eris(?) and sedna

[acoustic moss]

no

[tranquil orchid]

And I'll end up doing my masters at some point as well, maybe I'll do that in mechanical if I want to get into that a bit more, or I'll just do it in pure electrical

[vague egret]

microprocessor starts with 8086 that processor is sick

[lusty rune]

yeah it was heckin amazing

watching assembly programs turn into real lights with pattern was 🔥

[latent scaffold]

Honestly I struggle to find the difference between a lot of these mechanical engineering sub-things

[tranquil orchid]

Mechatronics is pretty much as the name implies

Mechanical + Electronics

aka, robots

kinda

[latent scaffold]

What's the difference between that and robotics \🤔

[dapper dew]

Thats what is so great about Mech Eng - it covers pretty much everything

[tranquil orchid]

That is robotics

[latent scaffold]

I see

[tranquil orchid]

At my uni it's just called "Robotics and Mechatronics", it's all in the same sort of category

[latent scaffold]

I think we only have "Mechanical Engineering" as far as that's concerned

https://admissions.nmsu.edu/academics/

[lusty rune]

honestly in india, any stream covers almost everything, first-second year were good because in CS we had exposure to bunch of civil/mech/pretty much everything

carpentry had to be my favorite

[last mantle]

🗿

[last mantle]

🗿

[lusty rune]

minus the time they told us to fucking draw the shitty diagrams in a record book

[tranquil orchid]

can I get in on this 👀

[lusty rune]

so we had to draw screwdrivers, files and stuff

[latent scaffold]

The NMSU College of Engineering came to do a presentation at our high school once

Well, a high school across the street from ours

A select group of students, including myself, was invited to go watch it

basically I've been hooked ever since

[tranquil orchid]

I dunno how I heard about my uni

But it's very very good and I like it a lot

[jaunty wraith]

wait what?

[lusty rune]

yeah it was dumb as hell

worst part was that it contributed to our overall marks

[jaunty wraith]

that is really dumb

[lusty rune]

welcome to india

[tranquil orchid]

I got one of these recently for a little soldering practise, huge 555 timer

[latent scaffold]

The heck does that mean

[tranquil orchid]

You've never used a 555 timer? 👀

[latent scaffold]

oh goodness that thing is huge

Where would I even hear about such a thing D:

[lusty rune]

you say it like everyone got a couple of those lying around 🗿

[tranquil orchid]

Like one of the most popular IC's ever

[dapper dew]

Yeah I've never used one either

But to be fair I don't build many electronics

[errant sail]

I actually built a tower once and I’m think about taking my software degree and digging into robotics and what not.

[latent scaffold]

is "IC" an "integrated circuit"

[tranquil orchid]

yeah

[lusty rune]

yes

[latent scaffold]

wow I'm cool

[jaunty wraith]

555 timers are well known

[latent scaffold]

what is an integrated circuit

[jaunty wraith]

it's a circuit that has stuff integrated in it

no joke

[tranquil orchid]

They'll look something like that

[jaunty wraith]

look like ants

[vague egret]

i use it for system clock or de-bouncing the circuit

[vague egret]

basically a small chip full of transistors making a circuit

[floral apex]

Why is it named 555

And why does it look like a large DIP chip

[tranquil orchid]

There's three 5k resistors in there

Between the supply and ground

[jaunty wraith]

Several books report the name "555" derived from the three 5 kΩ resistors inside the chip.[9][10][11] However, in a recorded interview with an online transistor museum curator,[12] Hans Camenzind said "It was just arbitrarily chosen. It was Art Fury [Marketing Manager] who thought the circuit was gonna sell big who picked the name '555'."[13]

[floral apex]

Speaking of 555

https://centurypacific.com.ph/brands/555-2/

[latent scaffold]

shoulda named the song 555

[jaunty wraith]

marketing shenanigans

[late ether]

what will you prefer to use? python3.9 or 3.10.

[dapper dew]

3.10

[uneven pine]

3.11 soon™️

[jovial oriole]

How many seconds cpp devs go without a memory leak
https://tenor.com/view/circle-gif-23021267

is it possible to get a memory leak in python

any% speedrun reasons

[uneven pine]

Obviously yes.

Instagram literally lived on a memory leak for a couple of years

They disabled the GC and instead of it trying to keep up with the memory leak, they just restarted the servers on a set scheduling

[jaunty wraith]

average Kubernetes system

[graceful basin]

It depends on what you mean by memory leak. A true C++ memory leak (an allocated Block being unreachable) is impossible, since CPython tracks all objects in a linked list, but you can easily leave dangling references and not clean up some objects that way

[craggy crypt]

del gravity 💀

[reef geyser]

@jaunty wraith its possible that we are all the imagination of a spontaneous, rare quantum fluctuation that produces a line of logical thought for a fraction a second and disappears afterwards

[rough sapphire]

i wanna make music but idk which program to choose / how to use it

please hleb

[jovial oriole]

sus

[uneven pine]

As someone who has been into music for many years... You have to try them all. Everyone feels differently about different ones

My personal choice is FL Studio

Many people prefer Ableton

Cubase is also quite popular

If you have a crapbook there's Logic

There's also Reaper, Studio One, Reason, and Sonar

They all have their own pros and cons

And various pricing

So I'd recommend looking into all of those, trying the demos out

[rough sapphire]

also i need smth free cause 1) in russia & 2) no money

[uneven pine]

You're not going to do anything serious for free

Your best bet is garage band if you have a Mac

[rough sapphire]

ok then im not gonna do anything quote unquote "serious"

[uneven pine]

You'll struggle with basic stuff free. Like I said, your best bet is Garage band if you happen to have a mac

[rough sapphire]

dont

[uneven pine]

Otherwise... I think LMMS is the best free production DAW you can get

But it suffers from FOSS syndrome seriously

[rough sapphire]

what does that even mean

[uneven pine]

It's a foss ripoff of FL studio there can do ~10% of what FL can

[uneven pine]

What does what mean?

[rough sapphire]

1. daw

[uneven pine]

Digital audio workstation

[rough sapphire]

2. foss syndrome

[uneven pine]

The software you use to produce audio

[rough sapphire]

ah i c

[uneven pine]

And foss syndrome is the tendency for foss software to have horrible UI, extreme lack of function, and lack of documentation, while its community will constantly tell you it's just as good as the paid alternatives

Prike example being GIMP (vs Photoshop)

[rough sapphire]

WHO SAID SOMETHING ABOUT GIMP

ok

(lets... not do that with this ui)

[uneven pine]

Is that LMMS now? They're definitely improved since I used them

[uneven pine]

I did? I used it as an example?

[gritty zinc]

it's a sad fact

[rough sapphire]

i just noticed

that i am in a python server

[gritty zinc]

I really try to use FOSS nowadays whenever I can, but sometimes it's just very obvious how much better it is to download totally lawfully acquire something proprietary

[uneven pine]

Most people don't want to admit this. I'm glad we have the FOSS options but lying to ourselves (and others) about what their capabilities are doesn't help anyone. And ends up hurting the experience of users

[rough sapphire]

and those are kinda applicable to python

[uneven pine]

I've gone the opposite way, over the years I've bought licenses/subscriptions to the software I use for these purposes, and have been happy

There are obviously outliers

For example, Blender is by far the best 3D suite out there imho.

[lusty rune]

yup, nothing beats blender

[uneven pine]

I've used 3ds Max, Maya, and Cinema4D, blender is way better in every way than those.

Inkscape is pretty good too

And Krita

But things like Resolve, Photoshop, DAWs, there's no free alternative that gets close.

[rough sapphire]

for photoshop: theres paint.net, and uh uhhh well um ms paint

[uneven pine]

Paint.net can't do 1/16th of what Photoshop does.

And Ms paint not 1/512th

[lusty rune]

GIMP might be a better alternative

[uneven pine]

Not even close.

[lusty rune]

after effects is also king

[uneven pine]

GIMP gets 1/8 MAYBE 1/4 of the way

[lusty rune]

yeah it's up there

but tbh, adobe deserves all the credit because their softwares are 10/10

minus the shitty subscription model they came out with cc

[uneven pine]

But still, horrific UI, loads of things missing, bad and outdated documentation, no way to set up keybinds to match Photoshop without manually editing the hundreds and hundreds of binds yourself

[lusty rune]

think my dad still runs cs6

[uneven pine]

No I'm actually happy with the subscription model

I couldn't afford the $600 price for a single version of a software

But at $10/month I can easily afford PS.

[lusty rune]

yeah i'm not really a fan of subscription model

also i don't think it's $10?

[uneven pine]

And when I get neck deep in a project, either my employer provides it, or of I'm on a contract I can just pay the $60 for the whole suite

PS+Lightroom is $10/month. That's what I've been paying for a long time @lusty rune

[lusty rune]

ah, i thought all cc apps

[lusty rune]

PS itself is $20/month here

[uneven pine]

$55/month standard pricing is amazing

[lusty rune]

yeah i'm gonna pass on that

[uneven pine]

Consider how many apps are in CC

[latent scaffold]

PowerShell

[uneven pine]

That would be $600/version, new version every year

[lusty rune]

honestly if you're a graphic designer or such then it's a killer deal, the subscription model i mean but other than that i'm not really a fan of that

[uneven pine]

If you JUST used PS+Lightroom (which was $300), After Effects, and Premiere, every time you needed/wanted to upgrade would be

$2100

Now is $660/year for a single seat

[lusty rune]

whew

[uneven pine]

Way less if you're a student

You don't have to save for 20-30 months to afford just to start using it

I mean, let's be real, if I just needed PS+Lightroom it would still be $900 with the old model

That would have taken me at least 9 months to save for, assuming life didn't throw anything at me

[lusty rune]

yeah that's fair

[uneven pine]

I'm in a bit better of a financial situation these days, but it would still be months of saving, and not putting the money into an actual savings/emergency fund to be able to afford that

When now I can pay $10 as I need, and have access for a month

And you can negotiate in contract work for the license to be paid by the company hiring you if it pertains to a job

Whereas before, that wouldn't be feasible

[lusty rune]

hmm yeah that's actually pretty nice

[uneven pine]

People don't realize that yeah

More subscriptions are annoying

But Adobe actually saves a lot of people a lot of money with that model

It makes their software attainable without piracy to the masses

[stoic ravine]

Does anyone here know much about Slack Bolt API's?

[mild abyss]

whats codejam

oh new event

[low chasm]

#announcements

[mild abyss]

no u

[frozen crane]

Fine, I'll look at announcements

Happy?

[floral apex]

Adobe's cool for those who can afford it

Otherwise just settle for alternatives

Stuff like Affinity, Figma and open source

I'm also avoiding Adobe from bad experiences with Creative Cloud

For some reason it will try to eat up a lot of CPU processing power where normally other applications barely do anything

And it gives me the impression they're too lazy to fix buggy software

[clear plume]

Omg aboo helper

😩

[small coral]

aboo helper??

[clear plume]

Aboo helper.

[latent scaffold]

guh??

[small coral]

i think that's the second time i've seen someone i'm familiar with become helper

first one was fronto

[latent scaffold]

for me it was hsp, brad, fronto, aboo

uhh I feel like there's been more

dawn

mina, I think

[floral apex]

Aboo is pee colored now

[latent scaffold]

suits him

[floral apex]

@low chasm

[latent scaffold]

welp

also it's weird seeing the contrast between normal dark Discord and.. this

[rough sapphire]

i barely could see it

because of my build overwrite

[latent scaffold]

So then we're using the same one lol

[rough sapphire]

lovely now i can

[rough sapphire]

yes that is so.

annie/dark is the best build overwrite

[latent scaffold]

I don't even know of any others

[rough sapphire]

same

[latent scaffold]

but I do love this one

[rough sapphire]

same

[latent scaffold]

I didn't even know it was a thing until today

[rough sapphire]

bruh

i had it on since like a month ago or so

[tulip cedar]

There are many others, just not for us

They were primarily made for Discord Staff to test out stuff and not update their app repeatedly

[rough sapphire]

They are made*

They're not supposed to be public

[tulip cedar]

Yea, but eh, the discord staff do make build overrides for public, like Slash Commands v2 and annie/dark
You won't be able to use a build override made for staff anyways, since that's gonna error out

[mild abyss]

lol 😂

[mild abyss]

nice amazing

keeps it bright

[rough sapphire]

Was the slash v2 a build override? Thought it was as always an experiment

[tulip cedar]

Nope. There was a build override released for that which also included the slash command perms

[rough sapphire]

Thank god I didn't got it

[tulip cedar]

They termed it as Slate iirc

Why would u say so?

[rough sapphire]

Slash commands are simply terrible, personal opinion

[tulip cedar]

Well, I agree to some extent, but that thing happened before they pushed the slate v2 (or was it slate?) update to Canary, which happened a few months ago

[rough sapphire]

The thing is that they have lots of ideas that are nice, but once it's released - example slash commands and auto mod - there are lots of stuff they didn't seem to have thought about, things that are pretty much obvious.

Same for the modals, you're so much restricted you can't really do what you want

[tulip cedar]

I do agree with u on Modals. They are hella limited

[rough sapphire]

I've barely seen anyone use them, they rather stay on the old

What will be the x value? Send in chat

[tulip cedar]

Yea. They will become more interesting when discord allows to add more UI components to it
But tbh, Modals are a great thing for application bots tbh haha

[rough sapphire]

Yeah yeah true

But why release a half baked feature

[tulip cedar]

It's Discord, what else can you expect

[rough sapphire]

It was obvious people would ask for more customization and component types in their modals

Same for the automod, it was used to bypass the message content privileged intent and use prefix commands on a bot without the intent

I believe they've fixed it now

[tulip cedar]

Yea, they fixed it a few days back (last week only iirc)

[rough sapphire]

At least they don't take ages to fix important issues

[tulip cedar]

Not true in every case, but yea true. They still haven't fixed their new Android client

[rough sapphire]

Mobile is just forever broken

[tulip cedar]

It's not as important as fixing the API I agree, but the app is hella laggy and unoptimized

[rough sapphire]

Always has been and always will be broken

[tulip cedar]

Crashes all the time, takes 2 seconds to change server even on 6 GB RAM

[rough sapphire]

Well it's still very important

Plus I'd guess they have two separate teams, so they probably don't have an excuse

[tulip cedar]

The older version of the app wasn't this laggy tbh. It was heaven in terms of speed, if u compare it with the current version

[rough sapphire]

Haven't faced the change server lag yet, but randomly crashing I get all the time

[rough sapphire]

Yeah but still had bugs every now and then when they released a new version

[tulip cedar]

Discord being Discord ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rough sapphire]

yuh

[solemn leaf]

https://youtu.be/OfOA4RKgIlA

[drowsy rose]

i clicked on this willingly

and i dont regret it

[dense moon]

Hey guys i'm working with some data that uses some German abbreviations, any german that could help me with it please? It'd be great if you have some knowledge in industrial machines.

[low chasm]

[lusty rune]

yo @weary moat sorry to buzz you but i couldn't wrap my head around how to get your neovim dotfiles working, it was on WSL so it was extra messy, do you have anywhere i could start with because i've no idea how to deal with lua files?

[weary moat]

That repo uses https://github.com/anishathalye/dotbot

which copies the contents of the nvim folder to the correct locations specified in install.conf.yaml

[lusty rune]

god bless, i'll give it a shot

thanks

[weary moat]

np. shout if you get stuck!

[lusty rune]

aye

[weary moat]

oh, probably worth mentioning I use https://github.com/wbthomason/packer.nvim

for plugins

[lusty rune]

whew, almost installed vim-plug 👀

[jaunty wraith]

@weary moat have you tried chezmoi for dotfile management?

[weary moat]

nope - but I'll be having a look now!

[lusty rune]

i'm not sure what i did but my wsl crashed 👀

i cloned your stuff and setup dotbot and ran install

it died

i ran it again just in case and i think it worked

[latent scaffold]

WSL's given me a GSOD in the past lol

[lusty rune]

whoa

[weary moat]

sorry, can't help here. I haven't used a windows machine in 'ahem' years

[tulip cedar]

Isn't that a BSOD?

[latent scaffold]

yes but G

[tulip cedar]

What's that?

[latent scaffold]

green

[tulip cedar]

Never saw a GSOD

[lusty rune]

i think it worked the way it should on the second try, created config files and stuff but um, how do i run the.. neovim config files to take effect?

[latent scaffold]

happens only on Insider builds

[weary moat]

the content of the nvim folder in that repo just gets copied into the neovim config folder - ~/.config/nvim

[latent scaffold]

it's the same as a BSOD but green

[lusty rune]

yeah

[weary moat]

if you have content in there, neovim should use it when it starts up - it looks for init.lua as the starting point

[tulip cedar]

Ah that explains

[lusty rune]

hmm, there's require("main").setup("full") in init.lua

[weary moat]

yep. I've split things up. That loads main.lua from the lua directory

[lusty rune]

yeah everything seems to be in order but nvim is still basic

[weary moat]

space is my leader key - try space-e-f

if it's working, that should bring up the explorer tree on the lsh

lsh

lhs. can't type today

[lusty rune]

nope 😐

[weary moat]

plugins installed?

PackerInstall

stupid question - neovim is v0.7?

[lusty rune]

not stupid at all

it was an outdated 0.4

[jaunty wraith]

maybe you need to run PackerSync?

[lusty rune]

🗿

[jaunty wraith]

that's old

[weary moat]

ah. that won't have lua support

my stuff needs 0.7 - telescope requires it

[lusty rune]

aye i should also run packerinstall

thanks should be alright now

[lusty rune]

gotta admit this nvim config is beautiful but i get this error at the start , probably because i don't have pyenv, thanks @weary moat

[weary moat]

Ah yes. You'll need to set the python interpreter to whatever suits you

That's in settings.lua

Best make that a venv of some flavour. It will need pynvim installed in it

Also, I have a few language servers configured - pylsp for example. You'll need those installed to get linting and code completion working

I also use lazygit and lazydocker and there are keybindings to fire those up in floating terminal windows.

But they'll need to be installed separately in order to work

[mild abyss]

u have problems with nvim config in lua?

[mild abyss]

use term command for that. iirc there is a plugin that adds floating term support

i forgot because i dont use lazygit and lazydocker.

wait im dumb. it wasnt meatballs who needed help

sorry

[weary moat]

No. I'm helping somebody use my config on their own machine

[mild abyss]

1AM moment

[lusty rune]

yeah i did that thanks

[weary moat]

Working yet?

[lusty rune]

yeah it is!

it's beautiful

[weary moat]

Wonderful! Glad you like it

Space-f for telescope stuff (find.. In my head)

Space f b (find in buffers, for example)

Space g for lazygit

[lusty rune]

this thing is awesome lol

how do i navigate after opening stuff with nvim tree? like jumping to previous file

[young shoal]

space for a leader is interesting, might try that 👀

[lusty rune]

it's pretty handy dandy

[young shoal]

i use comma (,)

[lusty rune]

i thought i was good with tmux, this is next level stuff

[weary moat]

Oh, jk is mapped to esc too.

[weary moat]

Space fb will bring up telescope with open buffers listed

[lusty rune]

oh hell yeah

this is awesome

[weary moat]

I don't bother with tmux any more. I did for years but now I use kitty as the terminal and this neovim config

[lusty rune]

yeah wouldn't need tmux if you have this

[weary moat]

It's a fairly niche interest. Nice to find somebody that shares it!

[lusty rune]

it actually makes me want to go full linux because wsl is being quite dramatic sometimes

[jaunty wraith]

do it

[young shoal]

WSL is great. windows is alright

[weary moat]

Ctrl Y for a new terminal, btw

[lusty rune]

woaaaah

this is some mind blowing stuff

[weary moat]

If you install fzf, there's also a space ff keybinding for that

[jaunty wraith]

Telescope supports that natively doesn't it?

[weary moat]

Terminal stuff config is in in toggleterm.lua

[weary moat]

Ah. Quite possibly! Can't remember my own config!

Space p to launch the pudb debugger. That needs to be installed to work

[lusty rune]

you're a gift that keeps on giving

[weary moat]

I liked how I could use either thumb for that originally. Then I went and built a keebio iris and now only one thumb for space!

[jaunty wraith]

what's a keebio iris 👀

[weary moat]

https://keeb.io/collections/iris-split-ergonomic-keyboard

I fancied an ergodox but didn't want to spend the cash! This thing is excellent.

[chrome crypt]

why not, take this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLXflEEQqSU&t=219s&ab_channel=LinusTechTips

[jaunty wraith]

looks comfortable to type on

[karmic gust]

my hands do not go inside that keyboard

[lusty rune]

had a feeling you'd be using one of these haha

have you checked out zsa moonlanders? some of my friends are real big fans of it

https://www.zsa.io/moonlander/

[weary moat]

I did. They looked nice but much more expensive than buying the keebio kit and getting the soldering iron out

[lusty rune]

that is true 🤣

[weary moat]

https://regolith-desktop.com

Ubuntu based desktop that's wholly keyboard driven. Brilliant stuff

[lusty rune]

woaaah

might be overkill for me for now 🤣

[lusty rune]

.bm keyboard driven linux env

[weary moat]

Blows people's minds when you boot your pc and it comes up with an empty desktop and your keyboard has no markings!

[lusty rune]

XD

[jaunty wraith]

yoo, that was my main driver for quite some time

still have it on a laptop

[lusty rune]

and it's broken in half 😭

[weary moat]

Yeah, somebody did once ask if it was broken!

[weary moat]

My laptop replacement is a raspberry pi 4 with a big ssd and I take my keebio on the road. I'm always working at somebody's desk with a monitor, so it works just fine. I ssh into my home machine and away we go!

[lusty rune]

oh wow

[jaunty wraith]

ah. pis are hard to get now

[weary moat]

I've just bought a portable monitor for it - mainly for the organisers room at PyCon UK to make my fellow keyboard loving organisers slightly envious!

[jaunty wraith]

one of my laptops is now just a literal desktop

[weary moat]

Yeah, I got lucky and bought one just before the plague hit

[lusty rune]

that's one way to avoid laptops

[jaunty wraith]

I see you're editing your config like a faithful vimmer

[weary moat]

Almost constantly obvs!

[lusty rune]

how much did the rpi cost?

[weary moat]

Another favourite neovim doodad: https://github.com/glacambre/firenvim

[weary moat]

Can't remember. It's a pi4 with 8gb ram. About £75, I think

[lusty rune]

whew

[weary moat]

£25 for the case and ssd mount (terrapi Q)

£100 for the 1tb ssd

Plus a few cables

[jaunty wraith]

I wanted to try this out, but I already use Vimium, double escapes just doesn't sound good

[weary moat]

Firenvim is different. It (optionally) takes over any text box and runs neovim in headless mode

It doesn't add vim navigation to the browser itself

No more crappy editors in Web based stuff

I use anvil.works a lot and that lets me use their Web ide but with my.own local editor

[jaunty wraith]

oh, right. Vimium would switch to insert mode, wouldn't it

[weary moat]

Yes, but still in the same editor. (just the raw browser or possibly something like codemirror). This replaces it with neovim

[jaunty wraith]

hmm. I'll have to check it out again

[weary moat]

https://anvil.works/forum/t/ai-generated-anvil-code/10411

A demo of copilot working with anvil inside my local neovim

[timid latch]

TIL you can use functions in an assignment target ```py
In [33]: print("what").something = 10
what

AttributeError Traceback (most recent call last)
Input In [33], in <cell line: 1>()
----> 1 print("what").something = 10

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'something'```

[jaunty wraith]

that is frightening, but I guess it just has a lot of context to work with? especially with todo apps

[weary moat]

Yeah, I cheated by feeding it earlier!

But it shows firenvim nicely

[jaunty wraith]

it does! I'm definitely gonna try it out on Saturday

[weary moat]

Be warned. It takes over always by default. I don't like that and you can set a keyboard shortcut to do so when you decide

[jaunty wraith]

I see, so like how you can disable Vimium by entering insert mode

[weary moat]

Yeah, sort of. It's just not the default config

[jaunty wraith]

well, nothing good comes without configuring it 😄

[gritty zinc]

I mean, sure, you're assigning to an attribute of an object

[timid latch]

fair, it just looks so wrong

[weary moat]

I hope that's true or I have wasted large portions of my time on this earth

[jaunty wraith]

you could do some cursed fluent API with that

[timid latch]

as long as the thing being assigned to is not the function call it self (i.e you need either an attribute or subscript after it) it works.
so yhe I could see some cool stuff with that, like py objects.get_at_pos(10, 10).name = "foo"

[gritty zinc]

6.44 ms ± 625 µs per loop (mean ± std. dev. of 7 runs, 100 loops each)
blazingly fast, I guess

wait, that's still on debug

let's see it on release

[wraith hound]

hi folks just ftr, hyperfine is cool

[gritty zinc]

oh no

something's really wrong with my ffi

oh wow, super wrong

how come I get, in Python, a bytearray of a size that's not even a multiple of my struct size

oh fuck, I probably transmuted wrong

😩

pub struct SimResults(Vec<SimState>);
impl IntoPy<PyObject> for SimResults {
    fn into_py(self, py: Python<'_>) -> PyObject {
        let slice = &*self.0;
        let (data, len) = (slice.as_ptr(), slice.len());
        let bytes: &[u8] =
            unsafe { std::slice::from_raw_parts(data as _, len * std::mem::size_of::<SimState>()) };
        PyByteArray::new(py, bytes).into()
    }
}

there, this is probably right

617 µs ± 64.3 µs per loop (mean ± std. dev. of 7 runs, 1,000 loops each)
BLAZINGLY FAST

[acoustic moss]

&*self.0

should i ask

[gritty zinc]

that's just .as_slice() but cooler

it works because Vec<T> implements Deref<[T]>, I think. So *vec is a naked slice. And another & makes it a normal slice.

[wraith hound]

naked slices are !Sized right?

or is that just str that I'm thinking of. I think it's both.

[gritty zinc]

yes

if you're asking how it works that we have an !Sized naked slice here for a moment and then cover it up: 🤷 🥴

[wraith hound]

I know not to ask questions about the magic that rustc does

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @rough sapphire until <t:1656620390:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: duplicates rule: sent 4 duplicated messages in 10s).

[mild abyss]

yes.

it's cool

[mild abyss]

oh that reminds me.

i have to update it

nvm no need

[worldly current]

rip technoblade...

[rare isle]

hi

[tulip cedar]

Please don't crosspost

[flint basin]

cursed

[gritty zinc]

what's cursed about a bit of unsafe ffi? 🥴

[flint basin]

i saw somebody make a FixedSizeBox on the rust forum

using some nightly APIs like ptr_metadata

there are some very cool APIs in development rn

1. std::async_iter (async iterators)
2. std::intrinsics
3. std::lazy (if you know the once_cell crate, they are implementing this into std)
4. allocator_api
5. std::cell::SyncUnsafeCell
6. std::boxed::ThinBox
7. some cool traits in std::marker
8. ptr_metadata
9. layout_for_ptr
10. a lot of cool looking stuff in std::ops

[tardy rain]

Ah man, someone was asking about a leetcode question and then closed the channel before i could answer

Hate it when that happens

[wraith hound]

2. like what? i doubt that will ever be stabilized.
3. oooh, sounds nice
4. like what?

[flint basin]

the ones in std::ops i am interested in are:

1. CoerceUnsized
2. DispatchFromDyn
3. GeneratorState
4. Generator

unfortunately the latter 2 probably wont be stable for a while

but generators are usable in nightly

[wraith hound]

ah. most of core::ops is lang items, right?

or am I misinformed

[flint basin]

they are traits for overloading operators

stuff like Add, Sub, Mul, etc

like the dunders in python which allow you to overload operators

[wraith hound]

yes, I believe most are lang items

[flint basin]

mhmm

[wraith hound]

well, I dunno about most, but I'm pretty sure some are

https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/library/core/src/ops/arith.rs#L66 yup

[royal lake]

library/core/src/ops/arith.rs line 66

#[lang = "add"]```

[flint basin]

👍

out of all the APIs they are working on, I'm really liking ptr_metadata

[wraith hound]

I haven't written much unsafe Rust yet >< I'm sure I will soon

[flint basin]

it can get pretty crazy lol

i hae only written simple unsafe code

[wraith hound]

yeah I think the only unsafe I've written was a quick transmute from the examples in some docs

[flint basin]

like dereferencing a *mut T to access a field of the struct the pointer points to and setting that to something else

[gritty zinc]

i've written some FFI, which is technically unsafe

twice I did it, and each time I fucked at least something up 🥴

[wraith hound]

I think the biggest misconception about unsafe is that it's, well, unsafe

When all it really means is that rustc doesn't know if it's safe

[gritty zinc]

first time: I forgot the names of some C# types, and messed up the extern fn signature on one of the sides, resulting in half an integer being chopped off in one of the args

second time: see above; I forgot what transmuting a &[T] to &[U] does 😔

[low chasm]

Rename unsafe not_inherently_unsafe_but_it_can_be_just_rustc_cant_confirm

[jaunty wraith]

only transmutation I know is very unsafe

[wraith hound]

miri is very cool and anyone who writes unsafe code without miri (with flags) deserves their pain

[gritty zinc]

ah yes, the uhoh block

[floral apex]

https://twitter.com/wonderofscience/status/1542522502353547272?t=2kQpezaS-e3_44jeoMwsrQ&s=19 Venom wants out

Wonder of Science (@wonderofscience)

This ferrofluid audio-visualizer created by artist Dakd Jung dances to the music.
https://t.co/YCYoIHBcXw

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[flint basin]

earlier today, I segfaulted in my Rust code

but I fixed it 👍

was a human error from me mostly because I forgot that I never made the *mut not-null at some point lol

[odd jasper]

damn that's cool af

[distant hazel]

does anyone use this feature of pycharm and it just works?

i don't want to learn regex i just want colored logs

my log format is

2022-07-01 23:29:15.243 | DEBUG    | cli:log:37 - Test log message

[rough sapphire]

if u use this does it work for pattern ^.+?\|\sDEBUG\s*\|.*$

[distant hazel]

can confirm it did smth lol

[rough sapphire]

prob simpler: ^.+?\|\sDEBUG\s.*$ then just one pattern for each level

[distant hazel]

what do the formats under the top LOG FORMATS achieve

[rough sapphire]

i do not know, have not used this program. looks like specific pattern for different outputs that might group segments of line for colors or format

[latent scaffold]

I searched up "idealog" and now I'm being offered a book on democracy

[distant hazel]

this also leads you to believe there's a plethora of pre-made custom log formats

here's the page: https://github.com/JetBrains/ideolog/wiki/Custom-Log-Formats-Directory

[latent scaffold]

oh it's "Ideolog"... missed opportunity

[latent scaffold]

Man, it's got awful ratings

[rough sapphire]

Features:

Code highlighting based of log level: error, warn, info, etc.
Intention to highlight columns (time, category, threads, stack frames) in log file editor.
Folding of uninteresting events
Hyperlinks of stack traces in log
Navigation to source code that emit log events (F7).
Go to next error action (Shift + F7)
Extends selection
Intention to highlight distance between events (marks time as red)
Advanced error stripe (heat map)

lol splunk-lite

[latent scaffold]

Well, if you want colorful logs

I think I can suggest rich's log handler

if... y'know that fits your case

[wraith hound]

Or loguru uwu

[distant hazel]

but this is for like just viewing .log files in pycharm's editor

i am using loguru

[latent scaffold]

in that case... um...

[distant hazel]

ok wait i think i get how this is supposed to work

[latent scaffold]

there's Grep Console but... I don't think it'd help for viewing the files in the editor

[distant hazel]

so i can highlight the whole line but not a match

?

[latent scaffold]

somehow I'm surprised there isn't a better option for this

[toxic skiff]

When my friend also called me a moron I realized BoyWithUke was correct all along

[hexed sierra]

@exotic harbor here

find these icons at the bottom left of discord

click the compass one

type in mathematics

and it's the first one there

[exotic harbor]

lol i have so many servers I never even knew about the compass. I did find it via google tho. thanks a bunch

[hexed sierra]

aight

[latent scaffold]

I always go through phases of leaving certain servers

it's... weirdly satisfying

[exotic harbor]

I like meeting people, so if you ever want to video chat or just talk personally feel free to DM me. No hard feelings at all. I'm an expert in color science and lighting/LEDs (only some aspects of LEDs tho) if that interests or is useful to you at all

[hexed sierra]

hmm do you ever do stuff related to tracking with cameras based on lighting patterns?

[latent scaffold]

I didn't know that color science was even a thing

[twin ibex]

its nice. less things require your attention

[thin cloak]

It is and my project has HSV and RGB stuff

[mild abyss]

my life is grey

[rough sapphire]

Mine is blue

Jk

[fierce mirage]

I hate that VSCode randomly imports stuff based on the things you write (apparently)

So it imports cmath in almost all my codes

Because it contains "e"

But e is everywhere

Dafuu

[rough sapphire]

turn the setting off

[fierce mirage]

Fair enough

[rough sapphire]

sad there is no hotkey for it. sometimes it would be nice to boop and have import done midcode

[rich hazel]

“im not fear mongering im stating my opinion on the matter based off of multiple failed scientific advancements and the fact that nothing is 100% concrete until its been done. if it goes off without a hitch thats fine, but if it does create “tiny” black holes that are expelled into space and then subsequently fizzle out within seconds whose to say it wont have a greater affect on the universe as a whole. the entire idea of string theory is that any reaction triggers a chain of reactions throughout the universe and considering scientists are trying to uncover the secrets of the multiverse, our universe, and time travel is it really completely unplausible to believe this could trigger some type of event throughout the universe?”

How would you guys respond to something like that in regards to CERN being turned on again on July 6?

[rough sapphire]

"okay"

[uneven pine]

I say it sounds like some Facebook crap

[rich hazel]

It is

[thick osprey]

You can go with the oldie and goldie: "Understandable, have a nice day."

[young shoal]

the classic, "go read a book"

[rich hazel]

I’m actually doing this

[acoustic moss]

"touch grass"

[rich hazel]

Done.

I hope he feels offended

[thick osprey]

I use it at work with stubborn clients. It's my "I'm done with this conversation and not responding anymore" answer. If I'm really miffed, I'll add a smiley at the end.

Something about "Understandable, have a nice day. 🙂 " that really gives the email emotion.

[graceful basin]

I would just send them the Wikipedia article on black holes

[hasty storm]

What is better procedural or object oriented programming?

[graceful basin]

Depends on your goals

[rich hazel]

He’s too dense to understand it, already made that point

[hasty storm]

?

[hasty storm]

I’m planning to go into game development in the future with c++ or c#, I’m using python as a vessel in order to learn how to program

[rough sapphire]

looks like wrong reply

what u mean by procedural and object oriented? u use procedural in object oriented. u mean functional?

[graceful basin]

Then you want the basics of object oriented programming, but more than that isn't really used in games due to performance

[hasty storm]

Like object oriented like using classes and stuff

[rough sapphire]

o

then yes, depends on what u need code to do

[hasty storm]

So is procedural mainly used in games

[graceful basin]

You will of course be using procedural stuff as well, pure OOP is more of an academic concern

[rich hazel]

I meant to reply to @graceful basin

[hasty storm]

Are most projects a mix of both OOP and procedural

[graceful basin]

Yes

[hasty storm]

Why is that

[rough sapphire]

but class does not mean object oriented patterns are used. it is just the object part. u can find code using class but not in a object oriented pattern. likewise procedural can follow the patterns but never use a class.

[graceful basin]

Because OOP provides tools primarily suited to complex problems, whereas procedural provides simpler tools for more basic tasks.

[hasty storm]

Oh ok

So could I make a game like chess using pygame purely using procedural

[graceful basin]

Yup

[rough sapphire]

ye

[graceful basin]

Though with games in python you do generally want a class rather than global variables

[hasty storm]

Why?

[graceful basin]

Because it provides you a nicer way to track game state

[hasty storm]

Ok

But are there ever moments where you have to use 1 and not the other

[graceful basin]

You don't ever have to do anything, but there are situations where one is the objectively better choice

[hasty storm]

Ok cool

[rough sapphire]

u can make procedural without classes do anything classes can do. sometime u look back and say oh, i just made a class and that would have been easier

[hasty storm]

What projects would you recommend for someone who knows the barebones, but has never actually done any practical work with python

[graceful basin]

Some simple board game

[rough sapphire]

same other way too. build out a class and look back seeing, oh that is just three functions and no need for the class

[hasty storm]

I’m planning to do chess

[graceful basin]

Not chess, chess is painful, but tic tac toe etc

[hasty storm]

But how to actually do it

[latent scaffold]

is that supposed to be simple?

[hasty storm]

Someone told me it was a breeze

[graceful basin]

They were wrong

And probably never made chess

Or made chess wrong

[hasty storm]

They said they only drew the board

[graceful basin]

Chess rules are complicated and full of edge cases

[hasty storm]

But didn’t make the pieces move

[latent scaffold]

.-.

[wraith hound]

conway's game of life

always a fun project that can be implemented in a lot of ways

[hasty storm]

I’m thinking about using multidimensional arrays for that

[rough sapphire]

chess has six piece each with at least one rule for movement with many having more dependent only on where other pieces are and what moves were done already

[wraith hound]

six pieces? don't you mean sixteen each?

[graceful basin]

Do tic tac toe first

[rough sapphire]

checkers is good start maybe to learn the chess board

[graceful basin]

Checkers are also a good shout

Practice a bit working with grids

[rough sapphire]

pawn, rook, knight, bishop, king, queen. multiple per side ye, but six types of pieces

[graceful basin]

Before you try and make chess

[wraith hound]

ah yeah, 6 types

[hasty storm]

@graceful basin would you say tho, chess is a hard project for a beginner

[graceful basin]

Yes

It requires debugging and testing no matter what, since you will get the rules wrong

[hasty storm]

Ok

[rough sapphire]

chess as a lot of rules so difficulty is in coding all the rule while learning how to code

[hasty storm]

I’ll try and do tic tac toe

[graceful basin]

And then you have to figure out why and how

[hasty storm]

I think I’ve actually already done it before

But it was a while ago

[latent scaffold]

tic tac toe is annoying tbh

just because the different winning conditions can be a bit annoying to check

without hard-coding, anyways

[hasty storm]

its like a million if statements

[graceful basin]

Salt-die has a nice way

[acoustic moss]

theres just like 8 ways you can win its not that bad

[graceful basin]

You can also do list slicing

[latent scaffold]

yeah but salt is a genius

[graceful basin]

This is true

[hasty storm]

how do you actually optimise that bit apart from doing a trillion if statements

[graceful basin]

Anyways, fireworks are starting, catch ya later

[hasty storm]

bye

[latent scaffold]

Cya

[acoustic moss]

wins = [(0, 1, 2), (3, 4, 5), (6, 7, 8), (0, 3, 6), (1, 4, 7), (2, 5, 8), (0, 4, 8), (2, 4, 6)]
for win in wins:
    if all(board[i] == "X" for i in win):
        # X won

[hasty storm]

could you elaborate on the all function

express in laymans terms

[acoustic moss]

it returns true if all the elements in the iterable given to it are truthy

[hasty storm]

how could the elements be true or not

[acoustic moss]

all([x, y, z]) is close to x and y and z

[wraith hound]

x is truthy if bool(x) is True

[acoustic moss]

each tuple represents a combination of indices, such that if all indices have the same thing theres a win
like the (0, 4, 8) tuple represents the indices of the left diagonal

i check whether board[0] == "X" and board[4] == "X" and board[8] == "X"

[hasty storm]

so does it just evaluate if that statement is true

for elements in the tuple

[acoustic moss]

index is

0 1 2
3 4 5
6 7 8

[acoustic moss]

yes

it checks the condition for all the indices in the tuple, and returns True only if all of them are True

[naive temple]

okay guys i found out something

wsl won't allow you to touch window stuff at all

[sudo] password for pete:
touch: cannot touch '/mnt/c/Tools': Permission denied```

[topaz aurora]

Yeah, there's a barrier in the file systems

[naive temple]

so i'm fine to do rm -rf

[topaz aurora]

idk

should you though?

[naive temple]

i don't know

somebody tricked me to do that

[topaz aurora]

then you shouldn't lol

[naive temple]

but i did cancelled it too quickly

so it only remove my root

and i had to reinstall wsl

[latent scaffold]

Nothing good can ever come of rm -rf /

Let this be a lesson, I suppose... Don't execute random commands if you have no clue what they'll do

[latent scaffold]

It won't let you do anything that you'd need Administrator priveleges for

[naive temple]

isn't sudo admin enough

[latent scaffold]

No, it is not. You'd know if it was when you got the little popup asking for permission

You can access some files on Windows but not all

if you let rm -rf / run to completion, it's possible it could've deleted some of your personal files

Windows would still work, all of the system-critical files are protected

but I actually dunno how rm -rf / works — you don't have permission to /mnt/c but you do have permission to stuff like /mnt/c/Users/$USER/* — and I don't know if it'd stop traversing down /mnt/c because of that

[mild abyss]

just because u can elevate privileges does not mean you can be "god mode". some parts of the system cannot be touched or modified even by root user

though youre still able enough to have power to brick your own system

[floral apex]

@tranquil orchid The cheat

Just yell at the user that they forgot the decorator's parentheses

And both are happy

They get IDE autocompletion. I get less work

[young shoal]

nepo wins the candidates

[hidden pebble]

just like last year...

[naive halo]

hm what is the best way to remove a cough?

[lusty rune]

i personally love honey

you can mix that with a lemon tea

[naive halo]

my family does salt water and gurgle it, but honey, interesting heard of it before, how well does it work?

[lusty rune]

yeah we do the warm salt water gurgle as well, about twice/thrice a day

honey is quite effective for me, not sure how it is for others but gets rid of my cough for a nice period of time if i mix it with lemon tea

straight up honey relieves it until the taste expires 😅

[naive halo]

ah I see, will see how it goes

tea naturally does help

[lusty rune]

yeah tea is very good for coughs and colds

not the iced tea btw

[naive halo]

ah yeah cold stuff and dry stuff isn't good for the throat at that time

though I must say milk shakes help soothes for just a while

[lusty rune]

yah, tea with lemon/honey before bed and gurgle with warm water should give a good night's sleep

oh yeah! milk with turmeric is excellent for me too

[naive halo]

many ways, mind as well try em all, wonder how well it works since my cough is from covid

[lusty rune]

oh boy, do you perhaps have umm, i dunno what you call it in english, lemme take a look

i don't know if you have these but they're called Nigella Seeds and were used quite a bit during the pandemic, not sure how effective though but i have a little bottle of them

[naive halo]

oh man I definitely do not have that, first time hearing of them

[lusty rune]

yeah probably hard to find outside of india

[naive halo]

doubt American stores have it

[lusty rune]

yeah most likely not 👀

"black cumin" or " black caraway" as wikipedia calls it

[naive halo]

oh wait

I heard of that

I might tbh

oh wow yeah I do have one, sitting in the open, a nice bag

[lusty rune]

hehe

[naive halo]

thanks Asian mom

lol

[lusty rune]

i just ate them raw before sleeping, about 10-20ish seeds i suppose

swallowed with water if they didn't go down

and they usually didn't 👀

[latent scaffold]

sounds... delicious...

[naive halo]

seems like pills

[latent scaffold]

quote quote

[lusty rune]

reminds me, i should replace those because my cat kinda broke the bottle now and is probably filled with cat saliva now

[naive halo]

they are good in rice

[lusty rune]

loves playing with that bottle for some reason

[naive halo]

probably the cap attracts your cat

[lusty rune]

the sound more likely xD

[naive halo]

cats with strings and caps, seems all the more common

[latent scaffold]

sounds delicious

[naive halo]

how would you know...

[lusty rune]

he punctured it too 😭

[naive halo]

oh man the claws?

[lusty rune]

yeah LOL

also bites it

[naive halo]

yikes

a feral cat it sounds

[lusty rune]

nah lol

a very young one which is probably why

i drop it in the bedframe and he will spend like hours trying to pull it out

the moment its out he goes to play football with it

[naive halo]

oh man seems full of energy

[lusty rune]

the young ones are usually like that i suppose

[naive halo]

and mischievous

[lusty rune]

true that

need to trim those claws

made me bleed like 3 times 😭

[naive halo]

roughh

you aren't allergic to cats?

[lusty rune]

nope

at least i don't think i am ? 👀

[naive halo]

that's good, means you won't be any bad effects if they scratced you

[lusty rune]

oh that

yeah

[naive halo]

I'm allergic so if they did do that well I'm gonw

[lusty rune]

o wow sounds rough

[naive halo]

hah

[lusty rune]

you got any petS?

[naive halo]

a dog

[lusty rune]

oo what breed is it

[naive halo]

Jack Russel terrier Chihuahua something breed

[lusty rune]

that's a big name 🗿

[naive halo]

alot of things combined yea

[lusty rune]

is it a smol one

[naive halo]

old old dog, have him for ages

he's medium size

[lusty rune]

like this?

[naive halo]

bit fat I must say

uh

nope

bit bigger

lemme just get a photo

[lusty rune]

sounds very much like the dogs you see on streets in india 👀

[lusty rune]

oh yeah very close

[naive halo]

mhm

he's still looks happy after so many years so it's a blessing

[lusty rune]

lotta strays in india are like that a bit bigger perhaps

how old is it

[naive halo]

14

[lusty rune]

damn boi

[naive halo]

got him as a wee pup

but he is aging

the thought of soon lol

still as energetic as he was when we got him

could I have a look at your cat if I may?

auto correct be like

[lusty rune]

the pictures are a mess tho i can't take them very well 😭

is probably asleep in the other room so perhaps some other time if i get a good one

[naive halo]

ah sad, cats are so so cute

especially young ones

gotta love animals and pets

[lusty rune]

i'll make that up with this goblin that used to come back in my home dunno where he is now 🗿

found his mom too

[naive halo]

wow that is a first of that facial frame I see, it is quite unique

[lusty rune]

they were scared shitless for some reason too

[naive halo]

the eyes tho, really beautiful

[lusty rune]

there were 3 of those

yeah, that was the first time i saw heterochromia irl

mans was really pretty

[naive halo]

for real, they all look quite unique

[lusty rune]

this one out here rlooking like a goblin fr

[naive halo]

also I'm sorry, just me or does he look like a rat

[lusty rune]

even sits like a goblin om

[lusty rune]

LMFAO

[lusty rune]

this one fr looks like a fkn rat

[naive halo]

if he stood still I would think that is a cat statue

[lusty rune]

gives me those elden ring cat vibes

[naive halo]

something about the tail and posture

[naive halo]

yep with the desert kinda look

[lusty rune]

it was in saudi arabia so you're spot on 🤣

[naive halo]

lolll

definitely somewhere with desert

[naive halo]

never played elden ring, but I can see what you mean

[lusty rune]

those were ferals

part of me thinks we shouldn't have fed them bc it became a routine and then they just disappeared, or so i heard after i left

male cats are hella crazy, they kill the little ones 🗿

[naive halo]

ohh yeah the really wild ones are the strongest one wins

[lusty rune]

plenty of cats in saudi arabia

throw trash in the local trashbin and 10 cats come out

[naive halo]

I heard of that, maybe because it's near Egypt and with the Egypt cats and stuff that's why

[lusty rune]

hmm true that, never thought about it that way

[naive halo]

the Egyptian does got alot to do with cats

[lusty rune]

some of them look really amazing, had a hecking almost lion sized cat sit in my balcony

it was white af and hU GE

[naive halo]

honestly tho I agree, they also got nice coats

[lusty rune]

more than the width of a normal door

hella big

[naive halo]

wait are you sure those arent female lions /j

[lusty rune]

honestly coulda been but never seen one that big since

because tbf saudis got this odd taste of keeping these wild animals as pets

very common in uae too

[naive halo]

it's a culture I'm pretty sure, just like Egyptian

[lusty rune]

nah i don't think that's culture

more like too much money and time

[naive halo]

lol

there is the animal traffickers too I heard

[lusty rune]

probably

[jovial oriole]

Crunchy otn

[wet acorn]

does anyone know of a simple tui which will just act as a normal console but open a separate window and look nicer

[north hazel]

[rough sapphire]

so, snow what have you been doing all this time?

[north hazel]

dealing with life.\

[rough sapphire]

mhm, college?

[north hazel]

ive had a lot going on, but im slowly returning to discord.

[north hazel]

nope.

[rough sapphire]

ic

[north hazel]

more like, mental health crashes.

but, i am becoming better, and am returning back to discord

i use to be on discord 25/8

[rough sapphire]

ahhhh i feel you

[north hazel]

i used to camp this python server

[rough sapphire]

i mostly just tend to eat bread when im about to have a mental breakdown

[rough sapphire]

ofc i know

[north hazel]

interesting.

[rough sapphire]

its tasty🙂

[north hazel]

eating bread by itself? are you insane?

disgusting.

[rough sapphire]

youre weird

[north hazel]

you're weird

[rough sapphire]

bread by itself slaps 😤

[north hazel]

nah man

thats terrible.

if im eating bread, it has to be with something.

[rough sapphire]

i sometimes eat bread with hash browns

or doritos

[north hazel]

dawg

okay.

doritos is understandable

i do that too

[rough sapphire]

yup

[north hazel]

but

[rough sapphire]

but what

[north hazel]

hash browns???????????????

tf

[rough sapphire]

its good bro

try it

you trust me right?

[north hazel]

idk man.....

[rough sapphire]

im full of good ideas bro

[north hazel]

i will wake up early tomorrow, go get hashbrowns, just to try it with bread.

if its nasty

im gonna hate you

[rough sapphire]

guess youre gonna love me

😩

[north hazel]

hopefully.

[rough sapphire]

its good bro i swear

if you dont like it, stop eating bread

[north hazel]

no

[rough sapphire]

ok

[north hazel]

ok.

[rough sapphire]

Ok.*