ot1-perplexing-regexing

[tardy rain]

what other programs are there

that arent web only

[jovial oriole]

I'm prolly looking to intern/get a part time job next year, prolly dev. Any advice?

[mild abyss]

apply to any company. friend of mine applied, he got the job :) it is more about engagement and a good portfolio. also not being an asshole

[jovial oriole]

alr

[tidal bluff]

Is it, though? 99.9% of people who need to use spreadsheets probably have Excel installed, so why use anything else? And since Excel is all they know, they will continue to favour it in other places, even if they had a choice.

I'm not saying it's not the best, but it being used over others is no big surprise and probably nothing to do with how good or bad it is 😄

[tardy rain]

what are the others tho

google sheets is web only

[jovial oriole]

my organization blocked it

because "privacy"

[tidal bluff]

I guess Apple's Numbers, Libre Office stuff too.

[floral apex]

For spreadsheets? I know LibreOffice has a spreadsheet program. There's also Apache OpenOffice but that's been eclipsed LibreOffice

Who even uses Apache OpenOffice

[tidal bluff]

The OpenOffice devs and people who have never heard of Libre? 😄

Is Lotus still about? 😛

[tardy rain]

good luck convincing lay people not to use excel tho

[tidal bluff]

Yeah, it's too ingrained

[tardy rain]

even tho its shit and its core language not maintained by msft

[tidal bluff]

Excel is perfectly fine for how I use it. On the rare occasion I actually do.

[floral apex]

Wikipedia says IBM sold Lotus to an Indian company

[tidal bluff]

I have almost completely ditched Word. MarkDown all the things!

[floral apex]

Never heard of HCL until now

[verbal wind]

Hello

anyone like computer games or video games in general?

[tribal aurora]

yeah why?

[stark geyser]

How is this not even pushing🥲

I really don't get Git

[tardy rain]

You need to commit the changes

It tells you right there there's things to be committed

Theres 4 steps to basic git

1. You make your changes
2. You stage them
3. You commit them
4. You push them to the remote

[stark geyser]

Alright so now my file is staged?

[tardy rain]

Yes

[stark geyser]

Because it has changes to be commited

So now i need to commit them

[tardy rain]

Now you commit the staged changes

Yes

git commit

It'll bring up an editor so you can leave a message

Or git commit -m <message here>

[stark geyser]

oehh always love these big errors

fatal: Unable to create 'D:/Python/Github/demo-repo2/.git/index.lock': File exists.

Another git process seems to be running in this repository, e.g.
an editor opened by 'git commit'. Please make sure all processes
are terminated then try again. If it still fails, a git process
may have crashed in this repository earlier:
remove the file manually to continue.

[tardy rain]

You have something running git in the background somewhere

[stark geyser]

Let me restart my pc, I think I ruined something

[tardy rain]

Close down your editors first

Then check again

Before rebooting

[stark geyser]

Yeah I tried that a couple times

Mhm even after the reload it gives the error

I'm just going to make a new repo

[stark geyser]

Ayoww you're the best!

[young shoal]

@rough sapphire

[rough sapphire]

idle has line numbers D:?!

how?

what did you do?

[small coral]

restart shell after

i just found the IDLE dark theme

[rough sapphire]

who thought it was a good idea to make line numbers optional?

[tardy rain]

VBA editor: You guys have optional line numbers?

[honest star]

... but is wookie always watching?

[tacit sequoia]

kinda/sorta... gave up on word for troff... gave up on 1-2-3 and excel for sc... you can still buy wordperfect though, just as old as lotus amipro

[distant hazel]

i unironically wish i had more vba knowledge these days. any good resources, and do i have to use the built-in editor? no way i can use vs code?

[dry valley]

https://youtube.com/shorts/gJXZ9KTufvA?feature=share

[tribal aurora]

yes, Microsoft Word is my editor of choice

oh i'm sorry, i meant IDE

[tight granite]

i am currently deciding between React, Vue, Angular, or Svelte

someone suggest plz

[tardy rain]

Theres a plugin for the vba editor called rubberducky but i found it made everything so much slower

Other than that yea youre kinda locked into using the editor and it sucks

The language isnt that bad, its the tooling that's terrible

[last mantle]

Svelte anyday

[acoustic echo]

wordpad.exe

[mild abyss]

svelte everyday every meal

[mild abyss]

ngl, my cs elective in highschool let us write in word doc lol

prof knows about editors but yeah he assumes we dk

[tribal aurora]

lol

[acoustic echo]

doesn't word just write in weird proprietary text file format?

[drifting snow]

yeah .docx

But you can export it as text

But then the cool syntax highlighting disappears :(

[jaunty wraith]

.docx is just many xml files in a zip file

[last mantle]

yus

i dont like using react but oh well

all my college-mates know only react

😔

[tardy rain]

i like react

and recently i've started liking typescript too

[last mantle]

TS is nice ig

although using JS libs with TS even with the TS types extension is not very fun

[tardy rain]

but you can provide your own types, right?

youre not just stuck with untyped code

[last mantle]

yes lemme try to give an example

[tardy rain]

i've been debating whether i should type up openpyxl myself

or just give up and accept Any lmao

[last mantle]

might as well use JS

although TS decos and interfaces are very nice

[tardy rain]

i cant, got a 13k LOC tkinter app on my hands

[last mantle]

jesus

13k that too in tkinter

[tardy rain]

lmao it is a big boy

[last mantle]

wait

is it for your company

[tardy rain]

yea

i have most of the code typed up, all of it really

except the openpyxl bits

its annoying me seeing white text in my editor

[last mantle]

wtf they actually chose tkinter in production?

[tardy rain]

well its not really prod, its an internal tool for operations

it was in Perl originally

[last mantle]

ah

[tardy rain]

Perl5

but our excel people didnt like it so my boss rewrote it in the worst way imaginable lmao

[last mantle]

rip

[jovial oriole]

guys i need drugs

I mean drug ideas

for my heath project

[brazen ingot]

🧂

[dry valley]

||c||||o||||c||||a||||c||||o||||l||||a||

[solemn leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/weed-noweed-gif-20024478

[jovial oriole]

thank you all

[vestal spoke]

hey i need to speak to ay one there to get the permision to talk in the rooms

can any one there rspnd to my messages

[karmic gust]

#voice-verification

[blissful moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F81LPqjSlhM
how's this for a tf2 hitsound

[oblique holly]

hey someone know here Assembly in emu8086 and can help me pls?

[wraith hound]

@flint basin

high level syntax with low level performance
could you explain what you mean by this? syntax has absolutely nothing to do with high or low levelness(?)

[flint basin]

I just said that based on the general idea that higher level languages are generally easier to read and write for a human, whilst lower level languages can be harder to interpret

and Rust is generally easier to read than something like C++

[wraith hound]

that is a very strange explanation and not a definition I've heard before, interesting

[mild abyss]

[flint basin]

I do understand though that the more common definition for high level languages is that they are languages which abstract away the aspects closer to the hardware, sometimes at the cost of performance or efficiency of which is often overexaggerated

[mild abyss]

for me "high level" syntax are those languages that can be read like a sentence. but that's just me. as for others, high-level syntax can mean "expressive" syntax e.g. julia, haskell, python

[young shoal]

lol wut

[wraith hound]

yeah that sounds more like the definition I know

[flint basin]

👍

[jovial oriole]

anyone else have absolute shit peripheral vision?

[twin gazelle]

Guys what is this bar up in the photo refrecre to

[tardy rain]

terminal tabs?

like so?

[raven narwhal]

How about this for tge loading screen of my app?

[strong arrow]

Its Nice

[raven narwhal]

Wut?

Why would u read a language like a story?

[solemn leaf]

i am having my lunch

bad idea to open discord

[raven narwhal]

So?

[solemn leaf]

nvm

lol

[floral apex]

You also read code

You still need to read code while writing it

[raven narwhal]

Yeah but...

Whatever...

C++20 is pretty good

U have got import statements, modules and much more features

No more #include<...>

[shell raptor]

That's some scary search engine optimization

[mild abyss]

im not sure what im seeing 😔

[topaz aurora]

w3 being shit

w3schools*

[mild abyss]

oh w3 schools

[tardy rain]

where do regex questions go

inb4 #esoteric-python

nvm im going to abandon my regex solution because fuck regex

[flint basin]

yes fuck regex

[flint basin]

I never ever said anything about a new version of C++ being bad. Read what I said again please

[jovial oriole]

fuck expression matching altogether

[flint basin]

🗿

[raven narwhal]

Sorry to offend you, but i am not talking to you, nor am i expressing my opinion about ur previous comments

[jovial oriole]

Joe, mind sharing your Wednesday conspiracy theory?

[floral apex]

It's not hard to understand reading isn't exclusive to stories

Nor do the following statements really matter to the act of reading

[brazen ingot]

🖋️

[floral apex]

thicc ink

[brazen ingot]

More sexy

[alpine edge]

Does someone know what music does fireship use for his videos

[jovial oriole]

i must admit that's pretty nice

[brazen ingot]

ig they provide that in description

[alpine edge]

They dont, thats why I am asking

[brazen ingot]

Ohk, maybe just ask them on their discord server 👀

[alpine edge]

They dont have one

Perhaps I would have considered all of that before asking in a server not related to them

And maybe don't guess if you dont have any context?

Because there is no point in replying

[low chasm]

They have slack, Instagram, Twitter, maybe use that

[alpine edge]

I have used slack to no avail

[low chasm]

Tweet at them?

[tardy rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk-KPf-5c9Q?

[alpine edge]

ill try that

[alpine edge]

Yes I saw that link from a reddit post but this music was used once in a very old video

[tardy rain]

which video did you hear the music in then

[alpine edge]

any of his latest videos

[uneven pine]

Perhaps we have no way of telling that if you don't provide context when you ask a random question 🤷‍♀️

Maybe don't ask the question if you can't provide relevant information for someone to help answer.
Because there is no point in asking.

[jovial oriole]

We'ree making the mothere of all mesages here Jack, can't fret over every tyop!

[granite crypt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947267206658547742/977317262044332062/trim.EB595B0B-B354-4B3E-8810-FE08794D4779.mov

[tacit sequoia]

how do i get that pc upgrade!

[granite crypt]

install anaconda

[tacit sequoia]

perfect! it worked!

now i need to call animal control!

[quick ledge]

that's neither a python nor an anaconda

[acoustic moss]

itsa me

[granite crypt]

[polar vigil]

https://github.com/fogleman/Minecraft

this is really cool project

Minecraft in 900 lines of code

[granite crypt]

bro recreated minecraft

[jovial oriole]

a mariooo

[coarse hearth]

Does anyone know how to setup app folder sync with Dropbox? I don’t want to login with my Dropbox account and use third party app credentials instead (I want to sync with only this application folder)

[granite crypt]

?

[mint matrix]

look at the message its replying to lol

[granite crypt]

💀 aight bro

[lusty rune]

@azure beacon heya sorry for the ping, just wanted to know what do you do as a devops..engineer? i've been quite interested in devops but after an interview for a devops engineer role, i'm quite confused

[azure beacon]

Keep servers alive for the most part.

Its just the current word for system administrator. Sometimes also meant with a splash of UX for the developers.

[lusty rune]

i see, do you have a starting point in mind that you could recommend so i could explore it a little?

[azure beacon]

Linux is a great starting point. As most servers run it.

[lusty rune]

yeah i kinda run linux on a daily basis and did a little rhel course as well and now i'm not sure where to go from here 👀

[azure beacon]

Selfhosting is a very approachable method to play with the server side of things.

Running things like minecraft servers, playing with systemd, automation systems like Ansible are also great too.

One of the best things i can reccomend is running weekly or monthly sprints with a challenge. Like setting up a simple minecraft server that you only set up trough ansible.

Or setting up nginx to host funny cat videos in such a sprint too.

Make it harder/simpler depending on the challenge you'd like.

[lusty rune]

.bm sysadmin challenges list above

[median dome]

Please don't do that.

Your input was invalid: You must either provide a valid message to bookmark, or reply to one.

The lookup strategy for a message is as follows (in order):

1. Lookup by '{channel ID}-{message ID}' (retrieved by shift-clicking on 'Copy ID')
2. Lookup by message ID (the message must be in the context channel)
3. Lookup by message URL

Usage:```
.bookmark [target_message] [title=Bookmark]

[lusty rune]

.bm 🗿

[lusty rune]

aye thank you so much, will look into it

[azure beacon]

@lusty rune have you played with Arch before?

[lusty rune]

i have not and i do not plan to lol

[azure beacon]

I know it has a lot of toxicity around that community, but the wiki's they have together with building your linux setup from the bottom up i can highly recommend if you want to be serious about sys-adminy things.

[lusty rune]

that sounds like a neat exercise, build it once and never look back 👀 never thought of it that way lol

[azure beacon]

I'd still reccomend to look back.

Better to think of it as self documented servers.

[lusty rune]

hehe i understand, will give it a whirl, is arch available on ec2?

[azure beacon]

EC2 sounds expensive. I'd usually reccomend it trough either a VM or on a old laptop of yours.

As the point is to go step by step and not use a pre packaged solution.

[lusty rune]

oh no i'm on a free trial so i want to make sure its worthwhile

that's also where i learnt rhel heh

[azure beacon]

As it is the quirks you hit that teach you a lot.

As any person can follow a blog post and not understand it.

But still end up with a finished product.

[lusty rune]

so sorta like the trial and error method yields the best results?

[azure beacon]

But figuring out how to solve issues using linux and how to learn how to debug an issue is almost priceless once you get that right.

[azure beacon]

Yeah.

[rough sapphire]

isn't AWS cheapest tho?

[azure beacon]

Its also why the weekly sprints are great.

[azure beacon]

No, its one of the most expensive solutions out there.

[lusty rune]

neato, is there some sort of a.. collection of these sprints?

[rough sapphire]

is that so

[azure beacon]

Not directly. There are places like https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted that has lists of cool software you can play with.

[rough sapphire]

so which provider is cheapest?

[azure beacon]

There is only two things id reccomend against trying until you feel ready mentally, and that is email and matrix. Both of those are extremely difficult to maintain by yourself.

[rough sapphire]

both matrix and email provide convenient docker compose scripts

[azure beacon]

There are a lot of comparison websites online. I have found this one decent https://www.experte.de/server for german providers.

[lusty rune]

this is the one that i kinda overlooked because i thought they'd all be the same stuff but boy was i wrong, thank you so much, this helps a ton

[azure beacon]

But most online would say Hetzner for induvidual use. Personally id say Netcup if you want bigger servers and can commit to a 1-6 month contract period.

Hetzner is pay per minute. With servers starting around 3.50€~/month

[rough sapphire]

i believe i'm paying 5€/ month for my Hetzner VM

[azure beacon]

No worries. Always fun to share cool things with people.

[azure beacon]

Sounds about right for one of their cheaper offers.

[lusty rune]

appreciate it :3 have a good one

[azure beacon]

Feel free to poke me in DMs if theres anything more 👍

[lusty rune]

aye tysm for the insight

[rough sapphire]

is vagrant relevant?

sounds like a great concept but i don't see it anywhere

like, no major software that'd provide vagrant scripts

[azure beacon]

I have used it in the past. Its a bit older and kinda went out of the spotlight after containers became popular.

It is mostly used as a "Dockerfiles for virtual machines" and you usually write them yourself.

They are usually better for when you are dealing with services rather than just dealing with programs.

As they support systemd natively and dont require a lot of funny trickery like containers do.

[rough sapphire]

vast majority of docker usage is services though

[azure beacon]

Yeah, im not a big fan of it sadly.

[rough sapphire]

i mean

not much alternative we have

[azure beacon]

Shipping your service with an entire operating system attached is quite the maintenance role.

[azure beacon]

I have a strong feeling you may only have been shown docker.

[rough sapphire]

I know there are other niche solutions

but everywhere i ask, it's always docker

and most services on github provide docker-compose scripts

or at least dockerfile

[azure beacon]

That is a very developer focused view of this.

[rough sapphire]

well yes

I prefer working solutions, not seeking niche problems

[azure beacon]

And no, they are not niche at all. You may not have heard of the tooling. But it literally is what is running oci containers underneath.

[rough sapphire]

so which other tool are you thinking of

[azure beacon]

You may not have heard of cgroups or cni, so they may be niche to you. But they are the foundation blocks that all OCI containers run on top of under linux.

[azure beacon]

Primarily systemd in the "running of services" answer.

[rough sapphire]

I mean, I know about systemd, but i also know that such solution is not at all a clean one

[azure beacon]

Define, "clean".

[rough sapphire]

you would rely on some dodgy script, and essentially hope that the .so s in your distros are the ones you want

[azure beacon]

What do you think CMD is in Docker files?

[rough sapphire]

change from debian to ubuntu, and your build might just break

[rough sapphire]

yes, but what do you think FROM in Dockerfile does?

it uses the same image (unless you don't lock it)

[azure beacon]

Usually pull in an operating system.

[rough sapphire]

an image but sure

OS

[azure beacon]

Yeah, but here's the killer. Nobody runs the exact same image, and you cannot easily manage the images yourself.

[rough sapphire]

in docker you do use same image though

[azure beacon]

So you essentially pull in 5 different distros, all at a different version of each other, even under the minor release.

[azure beacon]

No? That is entirely dependent on how the docker file of the program you pull in has written it.

[rough sapphire]

okay, so tell me, if Dockerfile uses
FROM ubuntu:22.04
how will the image differ from what i run, and what you run

what will be different

[azure beacon]

If you pull it in one day before me. A package is updated, and i build it the day after.

[rough sapphire]

which package?

[azure beacon]

Outside of pulling the completed images off dockerhub/github, you cannot really ensure that repoducability.

Outside of writing your own Dockerfiles for every program to unify them, you cannot realistically keep up on the maintenance side outside of just trusting the developers doing it for you.

[rough sapphire]

you don't write your own Dockerfile, you usually reuse one

when deploying

ofc, when you have finalized your product, you write the Dockerfile once, make it work

and when you have to deploy your software, whoever uses your exact same Dockerfile, should at no point expect issues

well, ideally you make docker-compose to make sure correct volumes/ports/env vars

but those are slighly less problematic in terms of reproducability

[azure beacon]

You speak of this as a subject matter expert. Have you ever deployed any software using your recommendations at scale before?

[rough sapphire]

I don't handle deployment in company i work at, my coworker handles deployment, usually with ansible scripts

but I do make Dockerfiles/docker compose scripts

[azure beacon]

Yeah. Do realize you are speaking from a developers point of you on this. And not from a deployment point of view.

[rough sapphire]

there shouldn't be that much more to it

[azure beacon]

Docker may be great for development, but it does not work well at scale.

[wraith hound]

what does work well at scale?

[rough sapphire]

large corps use docker too you know

[azure beacon]

There are many hip companies that try to tell you otherwise, usually because they have some software solution at the end of their articles that they try to sell you to make containers easier.

[rough sapphire]

there are open source solutions for it too, such as kubernetes

[low chasm]

kubernetes scales, yeah?

[rough sapphire]

kubernetes manages containers, yes

[azure beacon]

Im still working on fully solving this. But usually ansible/nix are good candidates.

[wraith hound]

Ansible is for automating deployment workflows, right (I'm probably wrong)? What is Nix for? Reproducible builds?

[rough sapphire]

I'm not sure about Nix being battle tested

also, I don't know how Nix of all things could help at scale

[azure beacon]

Yeah its a orchestration suite that uses OCI containers. Its both good and bad. Where most of its bad come simply from the sheer amount of complexity it brings.

[rough sapphire]

scale is complex, kubernetes tries to ease it as much as possible

[azure beacon]

Its used by several companies and spawned from academic papers. Its pretty serious.

[rough sapphire]

any high profile company?

not that it matters

[azure beacon]

Reproducability is its strong suit. You can also put nix inside of containers to help with that "i pulled at the wrong date and now everything is broken" issue.

[wraith hound]

this is absolutely terrible criteria for literally anything, besides a project having corporate support to ensure its survival

[azure beacon]

But most of this is a complex answer without a single tool at the heart.

[rough sapphire]

it's not criteria, it's a question

[azure beacon]

Essentially. I enjoy ansible for more the documentation side of things. Which is one of the few strong points i can give to dockerfiles. As they describe dependencies and installation in a way thats testable.

Nix is for reproducability yeah. As every package is pinned to a "git" hash.

And with projects like NixOS, you can do quite insane things like move a system backwards and forwards in time without snapshots. And have automated rollbacks without complex utilities.

[rough sapphire]

you can do that with BTRFS too

[azure beacon]

You just set the final system version hash to point to your last deployment, and the system will figure out the rest for you.

[rough sapphire]

on any distro

[azure beacon]

BTRFS uses snapshotting.

Its like taking a picture of a house of cards, then breaking it, then looking back at your picture to remember how it was before.

Nix will know how it built that house of cards. And if you break it, nix can build you that house of cards again out of nothing.

[rough sapphire]

uhhh, i believe that grossly oversimplifies it

BTRFS is readonly asterisk, and you simply delete nodes to get to arbitrary snapshot

[azure beacon]

Yeah im trying to give the essence of what the difference between btrfs snapshotting is and nix.

[rough sapphire]

as name suggests, it's B tree

[azure beacon]

Yeah, you look back at what you had before, instead of being able to build what you had before.

[rough sapphire]

also, not readonly

[azure beacon]

Thats the big important difference between the two.

Also btrfs has issues like mad with its features breaking drives and corrupting.

[rough sapphire]

had *

[azure beacon]

Im interested to see where bcachefs goes instead.

[azure beacon]

has, it still destroys any drives you set as RAID 5 or 6.

Which might i add is nuts.

Like a oven that will catch fire if you put the wrong settings on.

[rough sapphire]

which issues does it currently have

[azure beacon]

Really describes the stance the authors of btrfs has on its stability and usage.

[azure beacon]

I just said, RAID 5 and 6 are perfect examples.

[rough sapphire]

I mean sure, it's a lacking feature, but it's explicitly instructed not to use it

[azure beacon]

Its not a lacking feature, it blows up SSDs and corrupts like mad.

[rough sapphire]

that's why you don't use it

[azure beacon]

And you are proving my point of how the authors stance on btrfs stability is.

[rough sapphire]

i think it's great that they are objective?

i don't see a problem with transparency

[azure beacon]

Its like saying dont use 5 and 6 on the stove as it will catch fire.

A file system should not regularly corrupt with its shipped features for a decade straight and be expected to be taken seriously.

[rough sapphire]

sure

you also have ZFS

which afaik is stable

[azure beacon]

Yeah ZFS is decent, if a bit complex. But has proven itself to not break and thats worthy of praise.

LVM + Ext4/XFS is the usual go tos.

... for linux that is.

The BSDs have it much nicer with using ZFS.

[rough sapphire]

I don't know about popularity of XFS

I know Ext4 is the standard

can you have / inside filename of XFS? 🤔

I know you can't have / in EXT4

[azure beacon]

Its one of the most popular filesystems in the server world.

[rough sapphire]

what's the distinguishing feature it offers over EXT4?

or features

[azure beacon]

Built by Silicon Graphics in the 90s as a enterprise and performance oriented file system

[azure beacon]

Performance. Its very good at that.

But currently does not have the same flexibility as Ext4, which is why its not usually a default for many distros.

[rough sapphire]

how good?

[azure beacon]

Best performance of essentially every metric you can measure.

Its quirk is that its very static after formatted. You cannot do online resizes (yet) is one example.

And its tooling is more sys-admin focused (read, meant for people who know whats wrong) than ext4's almost fully automatic recovery.

I know its a very common strategy to have boot drives be ext4 and storage drives be xfs.

There are also a good chunk that use ZFS for the storage drives, which is a valid option too.

[rough sapphire]

recovery from what though

[azure beacon]

Power outages, system crashes, etc.

[rough sapphire]

what exactly does EXT4 recover from "better" in case of power outage?

does it magically recover files that are stored in ram?

I'm struggling to understand

[azure beacon]

Mostly being more automatic. You will rarely need to drop into a recovery mode to fix ext4. It usually can self heal fully.

XFS can too, but can have slightly more issues that would require learning the command line tools.

Not an issue for those who run servers, but is an issue for those who just run linux to browse the web and play games.

[rough sapphire]

what precisely can be recovered

one example

[azure beacon]

No, ext4 is a journalling file system. It writes itself a journal "im writing block 4 with this data" before it writes block 4 with that data.

[rough sapphire]

XFS is journaling FS too

[azure beacon]

Then clears that journal once it knows its complete.

[azure beacon]

Yeah.

[azure beacon]

When a power outage happens, it first reads its journal. And it can see that it still was writing to its own journal and it was never cleared.

I dont know the spessifics of how it clears it. But it uses the data in the journal to get back to a known state for all the files so nothing is corrupt from ext4 writing those files.

Like writing yourself a todo list, but then not completing the todo list until the next day.

Again, not 100% sure about how it stores the data in the journal exactly. So dont take my word for that part.

[mild abyss]

who is sofi

[solemn leaf]

who is abdul

[lime maple]

Who is who

[jovial oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLFhKaqnWwk

guys check this out

fricking insane

[small coral]

youtube links without embeds on a channel where embeds are allowed are kinda sus

[carmine apex]

you know in your heart what video this is. trust yourself, for your instincts are never gonna let you down and hurt you

[small coral]

nice sentence ima golf that for you
"don't"

[tardy rain]

TIL VBA's InStr method which searches a string for a substring is not 0-based

instead of returning -1 or something sane for no match, it returns 0 lol

[jaunty wraith]

because VBA indexes start from 1?

or I might be misremembering it

[tardy rain]

Some collections start with 0 some dont

Usually you use LBound because technically you could have an array like

Dim myArray(2 To 10) as <Type here>

This one doesnt start at 0 or 1, it starts at 2

Absolutely wild this language

[graceful basin]

man, old languages love their range types

[scarlet flame]

I need help in a project

@scarlet flame

[jovial oriole]

you've been sending this messages across multiple channels, it's cross posting and can be considered spam. if you need help check #❓｜how-to-get-help

[scarlet flame]

sir i gone the help but they are saying we can't help in web development project

[last mantle]

does D have a range type too?

[graceful basin]

as far as I can tell, no

or well, D uses range for their iterators

[last mantle]

hm

[jovial oriole]

.topic

[median dome]

**What is your favorite sport?**

Suggest more topics here!

[jovial oriole]

as a professional introvert, foosball

[turbid plaza]

How can i link a url to my express app?
does anyone know?

[tardy rain]

Link how

[turbid plaza]

i mean like
instead of it being localhost:3000
its a url?
like www.domain.com

[tardy rain]

Deploying an app is a whole thing, you might wanna ask in #web-development

[lusty rune]

you need to deploy it, repl or heroku can handle that for you for free real quick

[tardy rain]

You also need to buy a domain

[turbid plaza]

oh alr ill yry thwm out

[turbid plaza]

yeah i got a cheap one last year lol

[tardy rain]

Ok, you can throw it on vercel, netlify, etc

Most of these hosts have settings to let you add a custom domain

And you make them point to the one you bought

[turbid plaza]

Anyone know how i can send/recive smtp requests? im tryna do something with emails and ngl google isnt helping at all 💀

[graceful basin]

generally, the best way to do emails is to buy gmail for your custom domain. Using smtp selfhosted tends to work poorly unless it is entirely internal.

[turbid plaza]

ah

tryna make a temp mail thingy... it isnt going great 😭

i mean it does send emails using smtp.mailtrap.io but . yeah.....

[graceful basin]

ah, yeah, in that case, you probably do want selfhosted email

which is really annoying to do well

or at all tbh

I researched into it for a while and decided to just... not

[turbid plaza]

i just need to be able to receive emails on randomly gened domains. after 3 days ive lost all will to continue

[graceful basin]

yeah, thats not a "just" kind of thing

[turbid plaza]

wel lnot domains but like [e-mail]

[graceful basin]

I believe mailgun is the closest thing to a simple way to selfhost email

[turbid plaza]

i managed to find one on github called Ad-Hoc but it uses outdated node modules and doesnt work for me sadly

[turbid plaza]

might check that out. it looked annoying at a first glace

[graceful basin]

yeah, its email

its going to be annoying

[turbid plaza]

true

why can it just be easy 😭

ig thats how everything is tho ngl

[graceful basin]

I choose to blame unix for this

though another part is just the simple fact that email predates malicious actors on the internet

[turbid plaza]

blame em for everything

[turbid plaza]

tru

[elfin holly]

Good night guys

[thick osprey]

@eager cliff
Skills:
-facilitating the expedient realization of priority actions within cyclical patterns
;)

[eager cliff]

what in the name of fuck

does that even mean

[thick osprey]

I clock in, I work fast, I clock out, I'll work weekends.

At the bottom of the resume, in personal traits:
- Word smith

It got me a few interviews. Never got me a job worth having so all-in-all, not worth being clever.

[eager cliff]

never be clever huh

[thick osprey]

You know what clever code in production is called?

a bug. 👀

[eager cliff]

branchless programming would like to have a word with you

[granite crypt]

Finally got access to Co-Pilot

[dapper dew]

Gotta show us your first generated code snippet

[rough sapphire]

This is the code I've worked thus far, not sure what I'm missing here

Make sure to use proper quotes in password and security, looks like you’re missing one in both cases.

Pets pics go here?

[frozen crane]

Look at my GitHub

https://github.com/swfarnsworth

[mild abyss]

guy looks pretty

it isnt you

[frozen crane]

Do you not see that the glasses in my PFP are the same?

[mild abyss]

youre not the only one who uses such glasses

it could be your twin brother

[frozen crane]

Don't have one

[rough sapphire]

Someone’s getting hit on

[frozen crane]

But if I did, we'd share the glasses

Kind of like the fates in Hercules

[mild abyss]

im hitting on u

[rough sapphire]

Big mistake right there ☺️

Change targets!

[frozen crane]

Why don't we all hit on each other

[mild abyss]

im not loyal.

[frozen crane]

Change your target to me uwu 🥺

[mild abyss]

[frozen crane]

Wtf

[rough sapphire]

Cute glasses

[frozen crane]

Also look at my kitty

[rough sapphire]

Cute kitty. Doubt he’d get along with my birds

[mild abyss]

u put some catnips?

[frozen crane]

He would eat dem

[frozen crane]

No he just sleeps anywhere

[rough sapphire]

🔪

Bad kitty

[mild abyss]

cat moment

[mild abyss]

i will be proud

[rough sapphire]

[mild abyss]

wait does your cat really sleeps like this ? how cute

[warm widget]

Nice

I rmr signing up for it ages ago

Then suddenly I saw it installed on my vscode

[rough sapphire]

What does copilot do?

[warm widget]

I didn't even know when I got accepted

[warm widget]

Well it's a code completion AI

Thing is, it's built on people's open source repo's

[rough sapphire]

Interesting. So you feed it some parameters and it outputs code?

[warm widget]

I didn't even know such a thing was allowed. I mean they're for the pubic domain ig it's somewhere in the license but making an AI from ppl's repo's with no credit 👀

Maybe I'm wrong

[warm widget]

You can legit just type a sentence of what you want and it generates code for it

On a smaller scale of course

[rough sapphire]

Maybe they can opt in their repos?

[warm widget]

I wish

[small coral]

like i put some code and it autocompletes that
the difference with normal autocompletion is that it's whole blocks of code being autocompleted

[warm widget]

That would be actually a good thing to do. Ask for consent. It would build trust in Microsoft

But they really could care less

[rough sapphire]

Ethics aside, sounds like a pretty cool idea for small time code

[warm widget]

It's neat. Although was super underwhelming initially 😆 . I think people were actually expecting it to create massive scale stuff in an instant

[rough sapphire]

Maybe once super AI exists

[warm widget]

Cool yet a bit scary

Hard to Imagine how much power those things are gonna have

[rough sapphire]

I’d say once we get to that stage it’s gonna have the answer to life itself

Probably it’ll have the ability to create immortality and maybe bring back the dead too

[noble atlas]

Her hands omg 🥺

I mean paws 😅

[frozen crane]

he's a boy cat. he's even the father of a non-zero number of other cats out there somewhere.

[noble atlas]

So it's his hands 😅

[mild ivy]

This is why I don't support small linux projects:
https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=showheadline&story=14624

https://kernal.eu/posts/linuxfx/

[jaunty wraith]

why would anyone want Linux with activation required?

[mild ivy]

That's my question.

[jaunty wraith]

people bought this‽

[mild ivy]

I think so

[jaunty wraith]

the analysis approach is nice though

[mild ivy]

You mean the kernal eu link? true

[jaunty wraith]

yeah. thanks for that link! reading through their other posts now

[mild ivy]

np

[tribal aurora]

<@&831776746206265384> ad?

[granite crypt]

Hello World

[modest phoenix]

Yes

[raven narwhal]

That reminds me

Of Alphacode

Deepmind's Alphacode

U heard of it?

https://alphacode.deepmind.com/

It can solve extremely complex problems

U input a paragraph of text explaining what to do

Wait whut?

So as i was saying

https://youtu.be/x_cxDgR1x-c

[jovial patrol]

Hey guys, I'm new here. In finding phone number location using python ( in that without using opencage geocoder for india what website we can use to show the map when they give any number its showing me that only the same state to everyone nd even the ip address is also same when the number changes what i can do) can anyone please hlp me.

[raven narwhal]

Can u share ur code here?

[jovial patrol]

yes wait

import phonenumbers
import opencage
import geopy
import folium
from myphone import number

from phonenumbers import geocoder

pepnumber = phonenumbers.parse(number)
location = geocoder.description_for_number(pepnumber, "en")
print(location)

from phonenumbers import carrier
service_pro = phonenumbers.parse(number)
print(carrier.name_for_number(service_pro, "en"))

from opencage.geocoder import OpenCageGeocode

key = 'c9476735f5a84051afe07940c60780eb'

geocoder = OpenCageGeocode(key)
query = str(location)
results = geocoder.geocode(query)
#print(results)
lat = results[0]['geometry']['lat']
lng = results[0]['geometry']['lng']
print(lat,lng)

from geopy.geocoders import Nominatim

initialize Nominatim API

geolocator = Nominatim(user_agent="geoapiExercises")

Latitude & Longitude input

Latitude = input("Enter latitude")
Longitude = input("Enter longitude")

location = geolocator.reverse(Latitude + "," + Longitude)

address = location.raw['address']

traverse the data

state = address.get('state', '')
country = address.get('country', '')
code = address.get('country_code')
zipcode = address.get('postcode')
print('State : ', state)
print('Country : ', country)
print('Zip Code : ', zipcode)

myMap = folium.Map(location=[lat, lng])
folium.Marker([lat, lng], popup=location).add_to(myMap)

myMap.save("mylocation.html")

[jovial oriole]

!cod smh

[royal lake]

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

[raven narwhal]

I will check ur code later and let u know

[jovial patrol]

okay thank you

[mild abyss]

i mean distrowatch isnt to be trusted either

theyre also crap

[tight granite]

freecodecamp fire quotes 💯🔥

[raven narwhal]

Have u checked whether the phone number u input is valid by phonenumbers.is_valid_number(number)

[drifting snow]

then we wouldn't have to remember almost anything in the google era

imagine having to look up how brushing your teeth works, walking, eating,...

[cloud sequoia]

When deploying a page/website to GitHub pages, which branch (master or gh-pages) should I commit the source code to (in order to make the page updated)? Currently, I've deployed the page, but I'm getting trouble updating it.

[cloud sequoia]

Oh, I just actually need to redeploy it, no need to commit anything, alright.

[frozen crane]

look at my open source project: https://github.com/swfarnsworth/dynamicdict

it's like defaultdict, but less bad.

[wraith hound]

fancy

[acoustic moss]

no self promotions stelercus

[runic wigeon]

better than static method promotions

[frozen crane]

no

[tardy rain]

Download festival has this ad that plays Skindred - Nobody in the background and its triggering mad 2000s need for speed nostalgia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPW5b2rPn3M
I feel bad for kids nowadays that have not experienced games like this one

[floral apex]

I dont think I've gone far in that game

Last thing I remembered 7ish year old me do in that game was drive around a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo

[tardy rain]

good times

[last mantle]

for real

[rough sapphire]

@viral parrot what is MMo game?

[viral parrot]

Massive Multiplayer Online game

wow is also an RPG

Role playing game

[rough sapphire]

What we have to do in that game?

[viral parrot]

so the full genre is MMORPG

[viral parrot]

you play a character that trough combat and skills upgrades himself to become strong and fight harder monsters and challanges

i dont know wht coc is

[rough sapphire]

nvm

[rough sapphire]

Ohh i see.

[tardy rain]

WoW is getting a dragonflight expansion

bit late but ok

[viral parrot]

yeah, but about time 😄

[rough sapphire]

@tardy rainhello

[tardy rain]

hello

[rough sapphire]

ok

[tardy rain]

dragonflight content should have come before mists of pandaria, right after cataclysm

seems the most appropriate

storywise

[viral parrot]

yeah, but you know.. the wow story is a mess

[tardy rain]

yea

its sad because i like the mythology

[viral parrot]

i as well, i have read around half of the written novels

they are pretty good

from a fantasy perspective

[jovial oriole]

i can speak from experience

[frozen crane]

what? I like regex

give me regex problems

right now

[jovial oriole]

okay okay mister pandas

[frozen crane]

oh wait this is my self-promotion channel. let me find some regexes I've made

look at my fuckin regex

ent_pattern = re.compile(r'(T\d+)\t([^\t]+) ((?:\d+ \d+;)*\d+ \d+)\t(.+)')
event_pattern = re.compile(r'(E\d+)\t([^\t:]+):(T\d+)(\s+(([^\t:]+):(T\d+))+)?')
rel_pattern = re.compile(r'R\d+\t(\S+) Arg1:(T\d+) Arg2:(T\d+)')
equiv_pattern = re.compile(r'\*\tEquiv ((?:T\d+[\s])+)')
attrib_pattern = re.compile(r'A\d+\t(\S+) ((?:[TE]\d+[\s])+)')
norm_pattern = re.compile(r'N\d+\tReference (T\d+) ((?:[^:])+):((?:[^\t])+)\t.+')

[jovial oriole]

i don't wanna see regex porn

[frozen crane]

too late!

[jovial oriole]

Help <@&267628507062992896> stelercus has gone mad!

[frozen crane]

wtf

why did you ping them

[solemn leaf]

ping?

[jovial oriole]

it doesn't ping

lol

[frozen crane]

it does though

[solemn leaf]

yes it did

[jovial oriole]

nope, tried it

im gonna see if r/regexporn exists

it does

lmao

[mortal ferry]

it does ping 😄

[jovial oriole]

although it's quite empty

[karmic gust]

^\D*(\d+)\D+(\d+)\D+(\d+)\D*$
```this is what duckduckduckgo uses to parse answers, and I think it's about as aesthetic as you can make regex

[frozen coral]

Can confirm, it pinged

[last mantle]

man

why you gotta remind me of mw4

[jovial oriole]

you know you are a regex god when you look at a pattern sequence and can come up with a string that matches it

[jovial oriole]

traitor

[viral parrot]

it pinged 343 times for me

https://i.imgur.com/caVhg0b.png

😄

[viral parrot]

guess im the popular one 😄

got 22k more mentions then you got messages 😄

[jovial oriole]

that's a pretty good ratio

but you should try to catch this ratio 🖐️

[tardy rain]

#roadto50k

[wraith hound]

@jovial sierra I don't know if you've ever seen these before, but some editors can actually provide really helpful type hints inline

I don't know if there's a VSCode extension like this for Python, though

[jovial sierra]

sth like that?

[wraith hound]

all those things with darker background are entirely generated by the editor

I did not write those

The : String, TOKENS, Option<&&str>, etc

this is always my example of type inference being presented nicely

[acoustic moss]

Option<&&str> 😳

[wraith hound]

I just wrote random code until the compiler stopped being pissed ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hidden pebble]

random code

[acoustic moss]

rust moment

[jovial sierra]

well thx for the help, unfortunately gotta dip now

[young shoal]

why do you have an Option<&&str> lol

[wraith hound]

idk I wrote the code some months ago and tried random shit till stuff worked

TOKENS is some lazy_static'd hashmap

[young shoal]

why can't you use child.name.as_str() as the key lol

ohh, you put static strings in the hashmap

[wraith hound]

yeah

[cedar mortar]

wow

[frozen crane]

what are you people even talking about

read my paper: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34920128/

[wraith hound]

how do you read the whole paper

[frozen crane]

I don't really know why you would want to, tbh

[wraith hound]

because I have nothing better to do

[acoustic moss]

paste the doi in scihub

[frozen coral]

Steler, thank you. I am going to print this off and use it as wall paper. I will be pondering on it for years to come.

[frozen crane]

in general, algorithms that use embedded representations of the sequences out-perform statistical algorithms, but that even these algorithms struggle with lexically diverse entities.

just let that sink in

[frozen coral]

it may take a while

!otn a stelercus's lexically diverse entities

[royal lake]

:ok_hand: Added stelercus’s-lexically-diverse-entities to the names list.

[frozen crane]

what a great day of high-effort shitposting that will be

[frozen coral]

lol

[raven narwhal]

@jovial patrol phonenumbers doesnt give u the exact location. It just gives an overall location of the country. Use a united kingdom phone number (beginning with +44) u will see a different location. I see that u input a Latitude and Longitude. Why aren't u using them to make ur folium map?

[minor canopy]

yoo

[jovial oriole]

!pypi dontimport

[royal lake]

dontimport v1.0.0

Don't import this package.

[jovial oriole]

i sense a rickroll

i fucking knew it my spider sense was going crazy

[high haven]

[acoustic moss]

rex try not to use :kekHands: challenge (impossible)

[raven narwhal]

Awesome

[jovial oriole]

count me in

[brazen ingot]

.wa Bertand's

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

View original for a bigger picture.

[verbal wind]

Hello, good morning. I'm seeking ideas for input to my py program to see how it handles it. My py program can accept .png, .jpg images, as well as .gif, .webp, and .mp4 videos. The output is the image or video, displayed via terminal. It works really smooth with (classic) video game pictures like items, npcs etc, or any other picture/photograph as long as the resolution is fairly low or detail is fairly low. for videos, the should be fairly short. ~1 min (so I can record the output). images are easier but if you have a video in mind, ping with link to either and i'll post result

I have tested it extensively on some sample images but could use more variety, and some feedback to make improvements

[gritty zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lNZ_Rnr7Jc
well, there's a classic video for such uses 🥴

[graceful basin]

if you want an easier download, there is https://archive.org/details/bad-apple

[verbal wind]

interesting, so is this a well known sample set for media processing

[gritty zinc]

there's probably like a gazillion ascii/led display/whatever versions of it already, too, so you can see how yours compares

[gritty zinc]

I'd say it's more of a meme to show this on everything 🙂

[verbal wind]

cool, one second

[gritty zinc]

e.g. I've seen it done in factorio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tihwC6FLB3E

[verbal wind]

might take a ~minute and a half

7k frames usually less than 2 mins

kind of slow

[gritty zinc]

so around 2x realtime speed?

what takes the time? resizing each frame to a size fit for terminal? or is there fancy color stuff going all?

[drifting snow]

Do you use 256 colours or rgb?

[verbal wind]

support for 8bit (256) colors, as well as truecolor (16million rgb) and 4bit color (16 colors <-- WIP)

[drifting snow]

👍

All with ANSI escape sequences I guess?

[verbal wind]

so for the videos, the loading time is for each frame being converted from pixels to ANSI characters. for single images it's instant with truecolor and with 256color it takes less than a second or two depending on the size of the output. resizing doesn't take long, the longest aspect would be the RGB to 256 color conversion which can be used for images or videos. if I were to enable that on a gif it would take pretty long depending on the length of the gif

uploading output now btw

[gritty zinc]

Hmm, interesting

[verbal wind]

upload keeps failing to discord, i'll put it on a site

didnt record whole thing, just so i could upload

so a few thing sto mention regarding the video

thats 50 characters tall and 50 + ~30% wide (optimization for width)

i could actually zoom out

and make it higher resolution

but that defeats the purpose

and the lines that keep appearing don't occur as often if i'm not recording my screen

[verbal wind]

basically what takes time is each rgb value has to be compared to a list of 256 rgb values to calculate a distance between the target and each of those 256 values, when that is finished, the color with the smallest distance is the closest color to use for that pixel

[gritty zinc]

Ah, I see. Are you doing that via numpy?

[verbal wind]

no i'm currently making use of the euclidean technique for determining color distance, so this function is decorated with jit/numba to speed it up by more than 50% the rest is done with dicts and min()

[gritty zinc]

Hmm, feels to me like numpy would be faster simply due to vectorization. But an even faster way is probably Pillow's Image.quantize, which can use one of several backends including fast oct-trees and some libimgquant library.
https://pillow.readthedocs.io/en/stable/reference/Image.html#PIL.Image.Image.quantize

[verbal wind]

quantize eh, i have not saw this method. I am using PIL so taking a look. definitely would like to make more improvements around processing time

LOL WHAT!!!

Convert the image to ‘P’ mode with the specified number of colors.

Parameters

        colors – The desired number of colors, <= 256```

i can't beleive it

i searched and searched for this, never came across it, even in PILs own docs..

so i ended up writing it the long way

[drifting snow]

at least something learned along the way xD

[verbal wind]

well i originally wrote it for 16 color, then converted to 256 color, so kind of makes sense

this only does >= 256 color

[drifting snow]

Is there a reason .quantize can't do more than 256?

[verbal wind]

well, when you get down to 16 colors

most of them turn out grey

because out of the full rgb range, when its narrowed down to 16, mostly everything is grey unless an algo is used to determine color of surrounding pixels

[jovial oriole]

that's a good disk speed

[gritty zinc]

ah, right, yeah, quantize only works for <=256

because it uses a single byte per pixel in the output

but maybe it's a pillow-only limitation and libimgquant that it uses under the hood can do any?

haha lmao

when I google names on libimgquant functions, google, instead of the docs of the actual library, gives me docs of the Rust bindings to it 🥴

Nope, it looks like libimgquant only supports one-byte-per-pixel too.

[austere forum]

@rigid ibex

[gritty zinc]

I think another way is to use any k-means clustering library, like scikit-learn or whatever.

[verbal wind]

oh my mistake, i thought quantize was >=256 not <=256

cool

messing around with it now

[verbal wind]

ah, now i remember.. I did deal with this before. so converting to 'P' mode or using quantize works well, and Image.show() produces really accurate results. converting it to ANSI seems to throw every single color off to something random. it almost seems like they're using a non standard color look up table. again, Image.show() works as expected but direct conversion of the 8 bit pixel colors to ANSI 8bit just produces an image WAY off

and analyzing the 8bit colors themselves via text, they represent the colors shows in terminal being way off, according to xterm256 or other standard color loop up tables.

[gritty zinc]

it almost seems like they're using a non standard color look up table
The returned image should have them in an attrribute.

[verbal wind]

oo

nice

[gritty zinc]

.palette

if you need a specific palette rather than an autodetermined one, then you need to pass it to quantize

and I think you do (you have 256 very specific colors)

[verbal wind]

yea, so the ImagePalette class just accepts and stores integers. the palette parameter to quantize accepts an image rather than a palette and using a palette from the image. what I don't understand is if I either build a palette image with 256 colors, but what does this have to do with associating the colors to the right integer..? or if I try to use Image.palette, how can I make use of this data, its a list of bytes or ints, doesn't tell me what color is associated to which value. sorry to keep at you about this, but now that i'm here i may as well try to implement it correctly to measure its effect on processing time.

[verbal wind]

😵‍💫 can not figure out how to associate a mode "P" palette with RGB values. there is no helpful info

[blazing condor]

hii

someone here?

@people

[tribal aurora]

ye wah

[manic storm]

def isValid(s):
  stack = []
  for char in s:
    print(stack)
    if char == '(' or char or '[' or char == '{':
      stack.append(char)
    else:
      removed = stack.pop()
      if char == ')' :
        if removed != '(':
          return False
        if char == ']' :
          if removed != '[':
            return False
        if char == '}':
          if removed != '{':
            return False
  if len(stack) != 0:
      return False
  return True

isValid("({})")

why is it that stack will be ['(', '{', '}']

why would } be added to the list?

[edgy ravine]

I’m newbie but Becuase you append char

[manic storm]

but i thought i checked if char == '(' or char or '[' or char == '{'

so shdnt it only be appended if it's these 3

[edgy ravine]

Hm ur right give me a sec

[manic storm]

oh wait

char == '['

did i have a typo

[edgy ravine]

Wait was it line 6?

Nvm

[manic storm]

/done

/resolved

hmm

/close

[uneven pine]

This is not a help channel mate

This is an off topic

[floral apex]

https://twitter.com/SbFramesInOrder/status/1530257122608431105?t=JdJ9kkj9JQYH4NM6J5clmQ&s=19

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[rich hazel]

!close

[small coral]

@sick stream the simplified code ```py
principal = float(input("Starting balance (in $): "))

print("Compounding Intervals")
print("[H] Hourly")
print("[D] Daily")
print("[W] Weekly")
print("[M] Monthly")
print("[Y] Yearly")

long_name, comp_fn = {'H': ("Hours", 8760), 'D': ("Days", 365), 'W': ("Weeks", 56),
'M': ("Months", 12), 'Y': ("Years", 1)}.get(input("Enter compounding intervals: "), ("Invalid input!", 0))
if not comp_fn:
raise ValueError(long_name)
else:
n = comp_fn / float(input(f"Compound every X {long_name}: "))

t = float(input("Duration of interest earning in YEARS: "))
apr = float(input("Enter annaual interest rate (%): "))
final = principal * (1 + float(apr / 100) / float(n)) ** (n * t)
print(final)

[thick osprey]

Ask your questions @tulip patrol

[tulip patrol]

ok ok

first of all, I'll ask you your name and please just bring up a fake name because I really hate to lie personally to my teacher

ready?

okay

acutally nvm I'll just lie

ok

so

What educational route did you take to arrive at this career?

[thick osprey]

My name is Preocts.

My education was High School graduate, a few years of general studies in a community college. Writing, remedial math, and history. The basics.

[tulip patrol]

Interesting. So you believe this level of education was sufficient enough for pursuing your job as a software engineer?

[thick osprey]

As a former Senior Business Support Specialist turned Application Engineer turned Software Engineer... yes.

[tulip patrol]

These are quite the transitions. How hard was it to make these transitions?

[thick osprey]

It took ownership and leadership of my own goals. I didn't "stay in my lane". I constantly sought out new challenges, worked with teams across the company, and made a brand of myself always being involved with the solution to business problems.

I think it's summarized by: Motivation and passion.

[tulip patrol]

Wow, I really like the way you think

So it seems you were strongly motivated to get these jobs

What is the most fulfilling aspect of your job?

[eager trout]

How did you begin with actually getting the job?

I've been applying but haven't gotten any luck so far

Did you do remote or in-person jobs?

[thick osprey]

Two fold answer. The most fulfilling aspect of my job is impacting the outcome for my clients. My clients are any affected by the technology I own, support, or interact with. I rarely, if ever, meet them these days but I know they are there.
Second, lesser, motivation is my love a challenge. I am never without something to solve and it's fantastic.

[thick osprey]

I got an internship at a "local" (4 hour round-trip drive lol) tech company. The opportunity came from the local community college where I was chatting with the Director of technology. He invited me to this tour, they took my resume while I was down there, and the rest somehow worked out.

Today I work full-time remote.

[tulip patrol]

I'm being motivated just listening to you wow. If I was a job interviewer I would hire you on the spot haha

Do you think that the demand for software engineers is increasing or decreasing, or relatively constant over the years?

[thick osprey]

I have 25 years of retail experience so my words have a long time to fill up with my passion for customer service. Even though I'm behind a desk today, hidden away from the clients, I know they are there and know my actions directly impact their experience. Makes me smile, reading the client success stories published each week from the business.

[thick osprey]

Increasing. Faster than companies can support, from my point of view.

[tulip patrol]

No doubt. I really like your mindset. It seems that your job is like a mission and its success is what you seek.

[tulip patrol]

That's very good to hear, especially coming from somebody who is in the industry.

Thank you very much for your time Preocts, I really appreciate it and I no doubt learned a lot from here.

Seriously though, not even for my school homework, this was quite inspiring.

Thank you!

[thick osprey]

Hand out here. I'm just one of many. ;)

"here" being the server.

[tulip patrol]

❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[mild abyss]

oh waht a great readd

[tulip cedar]

Agreed

[tardy rain]

this is good advice but we recently had an intern where i work that tried to do this and failed every step of the way

[harsh bridge]

guys do u like cactus?

[mild path]

To say of what is that it is not, or of what is not that it is, is false, while to say of what is that it is, and of what is not that it is not, is true.
the second part of this sentence is true but the first part is false
if i am lying but i tell you the truth am i lying?

[raven narwhal]

What language is this? Greek? Harappan?

[jovial oriole]

If Hemlock reacts to this message with I'll change my name to HRLO77isnotwack, but since he won't, I don't have to worry.

[lethal halo]

; )

[jovial oriole]

darn

[lethal halo]

rules are rules

XD

[jovial oriole]

guess i am no longer wack

[lethal halo]

or maybe yep

; ))

[uneven pine]

Ironic

[dense palm]

Does the Python bot DM users when they get banned, kicked, muted, or warned?

[wraith hound]

yes, unless they have DMs off

[dense palm]

Thank you.

[solemn leaf]

hiding member list seems lonely like a group dm lol

[thick osprey]

It's not easy and I openly admit that my past experience helped me excel where someone without experience might have to figure it all out. In leadership it gets called "building your brand". There are good brands and bad brands. Luckily, you aren't stuck with the brand you have. Unlike first impressions, they can (and do) change.

[runic wigeon]

Just finished solving my maths worksheet 😉

[lunar shore]

Why do some people use Firefox instead of Brave?

[wraith hound]

because they like it more?

[lunar shore]

yea but for what reason

[wraith hound]

brave's creator also has history of being a shitty person iirc (I think that was brave)

[wraith hound]

many

[lunar shore]

the person who also created JS?

[wraith hound]

yeah I think so

[lunar shore]

hmm

I mean some people say it's bloat and stuff

but you can literally disable everything

if you want to

[wraith hound]

you're asking for too much reasoning

I use firefox because I have no reason to switch to anything else

[lunar shore]

so I don't get why people dont use it. Privacy? Both have it. Performance? Brave's faster. Extensions? Brave has more

[lunar shore]

right

so you just started with firefox, and kept using it?

[wraith hound]

yes

[lunar shore]

Yea that's alright

[graceful basin]

honestly, braves scandal with redirects and binance.us is enough to sour any interest in using it for a lot of people

[wraith hound]

because I don't really care what the fuck my browser does as long as it takes me to the sites I need and renders them correctly

[lunar shore]

You can disable brave rewards

and even hide it from the address bar

[lunar shore]

indeed

But

firefox gets so much love from the linux community

and I still dont get that lol

[graceful basin]

that wasn't it, brave just simply redirected all binance.us accesses to their referral link for about 12 hours before the inevitable backlash

[lunar shore]

it also is the default and preinstalled on most

[thick osprey]

Yes, but if I don't install it I never have to disable it. :) Any Opera GX fans?

[graceful basin]

because it is only thing that makes the web a standard, rather than a google product

an open source google product, sure, but a google product nontheless

[acoustic moss]

represent

[lunar shore]

I mean, like, I don't mind if google is getting my data and stuff

[graceful basin]

and honestly, I consider brave rewards unethical.

[lunar shore]

It's used for better search results

[graceful basin]

this isn't about data

this is about chrome and firefox being the only 2 browsers

no one else (except apple) can implement a web browser at this point

[lunar shore]

I mean

[graceful basin]

it is quite literally impossible

[lunar shore]

Firefox had some problems with rendering websites

and it uses somewhat more ram than brave

so does chrome, for some reason

[graceful basin]

yes, welcome to google doing nonstandard garbage

[lunar shore]

Yea I've heard that

some websites used to not even LOAD with firefox

because of some shitty stuff google did

but google is also supporting firefox

so I don't get what they are planning

[wraith hound]

wdym by this? do you mean implement a web browser that people will actually use?

[lunar shore]

(financially)

[graceful basin]

no, the web standards innovate faster than any programmer team can keep up

[lunar shore]

right

[graceful basin]

not taking over all web standards, thankfully

[lunar shore]

yea

[wraith hound]

ah right

[graceful basin]

and also, firefox is just better when it comes to profiles

[lunar shore]

I've tried using firefox, might try it another time too, but generally it's... idk... for example on android I can't use native dark mode

[graceful basin]

sure, brave has more features

[lunar shore]

subjective though

[graceful basin]

no, fairly objective, unless brave somehow managed to have profiles not bound to windows like every other chromium browser

[lunar shore]

I mean, I do like mozilla generally

first of all, js wiki

and

rust

and trustable as hell

but uh... google's actions on trying to bring firefox down, has been kinda effective

might be able to endure it though

[graceful basin]

the simple reality of the matter is, every single major browser is good enough for just about anyone

there aren't really any killer features you can have

[lunar shore]

yea I can agree with that

but some small problems

would be annoying if repeated

ok trying firefox take 2

[graceful basin]

a similar question is "why are people using chrome over edge"

[lunar shore]

microsoft has always been sketchy I guess lol

no way I can trust Microsoft, even though I trust google for reasons

[thick osprey]

Spoiler, if you're using windows you are trusting Mircrosoft.

[graceful basin]

yeah, that seems like a moot point considering windows

[lunar shore]

I do use linux mostly. windows only for gaming

and animation/music prod

(i've tried all the alternatives, not as good as windows' ones)

[graceful basin]

I mean, the reason there is fairly obvious, MS has a history of pushing shitty browsers

[lunar shore]

yep

[graceful basin]

still a shame old edge died tbh

[lunar shore]

it was one of the first (the first even?) browsers, but didn't catch up with the industry

[graceful basin]

it was the closest thing to a third browser engine the world got

[lunar shore]

yea

the new one is chromium based right?

[graceful basin]

yeah

[lunar shore]

ah

all the same

lol

[graceful basin]

edge was very standard compliant, but it wasn't chromium

so it just didn't work a lot of time

[lunar shore]

yea that's understandable

[graceful basin]

since well, web standards are obtuse and bloated, so the only way to actually write websites is trial and error

you can't write standard-compliant websites, because the standards are incomprehensible

[lunar shore]

yea, but sadly right now we have like 2

browsers

[graceful basin]

more or less

[lunar shore]

is safari also chromium?

or independant?

[graceful basin]

independent, funnily enough

[lunar shore]

oh wow

so a different engine?

[graceful basin]

ye, based on the same thing, but different

[lunar shore]

nice

[graceful basin]

apple is keeping up, since they are literally apple

[lunar shore]

yea

that's to be expected

[graceful basin]

but they aren't really relevant, since you are either forced to use safari, or can't use safari

[lunar shore]

wait

apple doesn't have chrome/firefox?

[graceful basin]

macbooks do

[wraith hound]

every browser on iOS is just a layer over safari, isn't it?

[graceful basin]

but really, safari is just better on mac

[lunar shore]

I see

[lunar shore]

Firefox is actually decent...

Last time Twitch didn't work

now it's working

youtube had bugs

not the same bugs now

[rough sapphire]

i like firefox on android