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minecraft mod that downloads all of its code from the internet - no updating needed
haha jk, surely curseforge wouldn't allow that... right?
this whole thread made me realise how little i know about java
https://www.reddit.com/r/java/comments/qpepoe/what_are_some_forbidden_broken_possibly_even/
this is why I lately think C# (and Java, I guess) is pretty much the best language to write a game in
because it's extensible. oh boy is it
even the stuff that's supposedly-private, you can trivially access via reflection
nothing is sacred
if someone wants to mod your C# game, they can, even if you never planned for that
isn't that a bad thing?
private things should be truly private
as much as is reasonable
Well, in an ideal world, developers wouldn't make private things that someone might one day need to access š
but that's not the world we live in, so reflection going brr is the only thing allowing, say, minecraft modding to exist
(minecraft is really bad at exposing stuff tbh; so many classes that are protected for no reason)
ah
this is making me question the decision in a language I'm working on implementing to have true privacy
I once cross compiled user defined JavaScript to Java ByteCode and wrote that bytecode to a database BLOB which I then loaded later after a failover or on replica instances of my service to prevent the code to be compiled multiple times.
TLDR I wrote a classloader which loaded classes from database
lmao
java as top answer
hah i just clicked on that before you sent it
the following haskell solution is
um
anticlimactic
lol
F# too š«
I don't really have an opinion yet on whether functional languages are good for games
it seems to me from a first thought that the very paradigm of, say, defaulting to immutable values isn't very compatible with performance
ah but F# has OOP stuff too
sure, I suppose, but what's left of the functional stuff then?
hmm?
this is from the rust website, does this mean that everything is built-in in rust and modules do not exist?
like, why F# instead of C# then?
easier to write and less noise
It means you don't need anything to run the compiled binary.
rust very much does have crates, but they get included into the binary when compiling, so you don't need to install them to run a compiled one.
what "noise"?
ohh
brackets, semicolons
I should check out F#, but have no idea what to do with it
hmm, can I include F# stuff into a C# project?
idk exactly
but for a WPF project for example
you can write the business logic in F# and call the XAML stuff using C#
not that you would want to cuz FsXAML exists
Yes, you can do mixed C#/F# solutions and link between them. But no, you can't do mixed C#/F# projects.
it seems to not quite be the case
but if you want to use the designer app ig it only supports C#? not sure
(though this is a 4 year old post)
I don't see why you couldn't, they use the same intermediate representation somewhere, don't they?
That should make it not too complicated
I think
you can call stuff written for C# in F# i guess. I used raylibcs in F# and it worked perfectly
either way, it seems one could in theory, say, write a rimworld mod in F#
maybe I'd check that out one day
wait, what did you change tho
It's like I fit into Discord dark mode now.
Goodbye, light mode~
(lol)
Rule 1: No humor. (lol)
It's accurate, although worded poorly. You can easily integrate C# with F# and vice-versa, you just have to choose one lang per project file (or had to, at least) - it's just a matter of separating your F# code into a project and then referencing it in your C# code, or the other way around
mildly annoying that you can't mix-and-match completely like you can with, say, Kotlin and Java
I haven't tried that yet, can you just have both alongside each other?
yup, you can have kotlin classes in a mainly-java project
kotlin does magic to make things callable from java
vice versa is of course even easier
It's not much different then, I guess
@latent scaffold https://youtu.be/C-v4lqS4Wlo
Thanks for watching!
Credit
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#GenshinImpact #MMD #HuTao #č”ę” ...
Oh no
@fossil solar you too u hu tao simp
what
the
fuck
Please be concise regarding the subject of your query. š©
thats why he said what, extremely concise
I think I was concise enough
1.76 k simps \š„“ , how do they animate
what
Please be concise regarding the subject of your query. š©
what
I'll pretend you don't exist š
ok
what
what
what
y didnt u ping me
š
well before, u never liked me having those waifus or posting those waifus
so i always forget you are playing genshin
send me some husbandos
Quick question, what is the following called:
You are connected to a network
While you are on that network, if you attempt to access a particular site,
it will serve you a local version of that site hosted on a different device
(Note: this will only happen when you are connected to that network)
I'd say man-in-the-middle. Basically putting yourself between you and correct server. Although in this case, there may be no attacker-real server communication...
Idk if dns spoofing is a term that's used, but that's what I'd call it - changing where you want to go would be done by giving you wrong IP when you ask for some domain.
hmm kk ty
also if i wanted to make up a totally random domain that is only accessible on my network, any clue what exactly i would have to do to set that up dns wise?
thank you!
been searching for a while but probably using some incorrect keywords
Your question above was suggesting attack, as you mentioned 'if you attempt to access a particular site, it will server you a local version hosted on a different device' :P
Yes, all .Net languages compile down to .Net CLR which is what is actually executed at run time
True?
whats the second of all
there is only one
hm ok
But if it did⦠š
Ok so someone at my old hs sent out a mass email to all students
This one guy is claiming he did it
But Iām calling cap and other than calling atom an IDE I canāt figure out why itās cap
Like thereās no shot this is real
Right?
That just looks like a stress test to me that they emailed to everyone
declare war and email everyone in the school in response
when internet security people get involved begin pulling very smart tactics and continue to do so
like they can see the email it was sent from idk how stupid you have to be
also im like 95% sure there's an 'account' that sends out a mass email if you send something to it
the debug shit doesnt look related at all
also yknow considering it says 13 users emailed?
How does a large scale stress test only email 13 people
lmfao
Thereās actually something called ākebabpizzaā in Sweden
Itās like kebab, but a pizza
It basically looks like this
that seems messy to eat
It is, sometimes
But itās fairly manageable and tasted delicious (in my opinion). Iāve made it with vegan kebab a few times
If you have a recipe, do share
How dare you insult kebab pizza
It's soooooo goood
Lots of red onions on it and nice sallad
Not quite, but Iāll share how I usually make it: Itās just a regular pizza bottom with tomato sauce, topped with kebab. Once itās out of the oven, you add the lettuce, sliced tomato, cubed cucumber, sliced onions, kebab sauce (and optionally pfefferoni).
red onions? Iāve never tried it with that
Is the vegan kebab like sliced seitan / tempeh / tofu?
tf do you call it then, purple onions?
There is this thing that I quite like. I thinkkk itās seitan
It's compressed meat that you then cook and slice up
Right, just asking what the vegan kebab was. Seems like it is it's own thing
Oh, that I really have no idea how it's made
I usually use āyellow onionsā and not red ones
Seitan is made from gluten
Hm?
Iāll try sleeping again. If I canāt sleep, I might return to the kebab pizza conversation later on
donair pizza also slaps
hm!
hm!!??!?!
hm
hah i like this otn
y?
idk it's just funny
ur that dude in the programming discord
avery knows something
Yes there are lots of people who are good.
The developer of rollercoaster tycoon, for example
Lots of games made for very old consoles were also made in flat assembly
Meant microcontrollers are programmed using assembly as well
im the gal
Seitan? What is that?
Ah I know I know, I have searched on google
Help!
alt f4 is a thing
ctrl w is another thing
task manager is another thing
exit terminal is another thing
-_-
format c is another thing
the power cable/battery is another thing
throwing the computer in a volcano is another thing
so is the big c r o n c h
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i need to get back into that game
that was the most fun idler, esp the achievements. just gotta remember the title though
end process EXISTS
What game?
i found it
antimatter dimensions
new obsession for the next couple of weeks located
one thing I want to do is to automate idle games
this is actually non-trivial if you want to do it properly, because it isn't at all clear to me what the algorithm is to, say, optimize towards generating the maximal total after some time
the naive solution is to always buy/save towards the building with the highest production to cost ratio, but I doubt it's optimal.
the code of it... could be better.
if (player.infinityPoints.equals(0)){
document.getElementById("infi11").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi12").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi13").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi14").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi21").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi22").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi23").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi24").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi31").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi32").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi33").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi34").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi41").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi42").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi43").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infi44").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
document.getElementById("infiMult").className = "infinistorebtnlocked"
}
wtf
jesus fuck
yandere dev moment
lmfao
it's all pretty much like this
you can also definitely see layers of development
because the infinity dimensions are in an array, as a sane person would do
but normal ones? Well:
firstCost: new Decimal(10),
secondCost: new Decimal(100),
thirdCost: new Decimal(10000),
fourthCost: new Decimal(1000000),
fifthCost: new Decimal(1e9),
sixthCost: new Decimal(1e13),
seventhCost: new Decimal(1e18),
eightCost: new Decimal(1e24),
firstAmount: new Decimal(0),
secondAmount: new Decimal(0),
thirdAmount: new Decimal(0),
fourthAmount: new Decimal(0),
firstBought: 0,
secondBought: 0,
thirdBought: 0,
fourthBought: 0,
fifthAmount: new Decimal(0),
sixthAmount: new Decimal(0),
seventhAmount: new Decimal(0),
eightAmount: new Decimal(0),
fifthBought: 0,
sixthBought: 0,
seventhBought: 0,
eightBought: 0,
firstPow: new Decimal(1),
secondPow: new Decimal(1),
thirdPow: new Decimal(1),
fourthPow: new Decimal(1),
fifthPow: new Decimal(1),
sixthPow: new Decimal(1),
seventhPow: new Decimal(1),
eightPow: new Decimal(1),
naturally, there's an array mapping indexes to names, to reference all these attributes by index.
incremental development
As one does
indeed
Also, there's a function called getDimensionProductionPerSecond, which is nice. One problem: it's not really per second. I need to divide it by either 100 or 10, depending on which tier, to get the actual per-second values.
lmao
interestingly, this game uses a custom way of representing numbers, as an object with a mantissa and exponenta - homebrew BigDecimal, basically. that's pretty nice
LMAO
reminds me of john xina for some reason
Yeah, it's the break_infinity one
That's part of where the game's gags come from
Guys I have a question. So my Microsoft defender said that a potentially unwanted app has been blocked on jan 2021 but I don't remember installing anything. Could it be a false-positive?
u can check what it blocked
it said pua 32 installcore
but in my recycle bin there's nothing
and I'm paranoid
is exe danger? depends, mainly if you built a exe on your own it sometimes isn't proper in defender or any anti-virus program's eye
Oh it shows a recycle bin with weird signs
can u send an sc
not on my pc atm but soon will do
you should show a image
@rough sapphire why do you have he/him in bio?
Because those are his pronouns. Just like I have xe/xem and they/them in my bio
I have she/her in mine, to complete the common pronouns collection
How do you use xe/xem. And why not just use "normal" ones? Im not hating, just curious
"Normal" being he/him/she/her
as to why not "normal" ones... I do use they/them, don't I?
not everyone is a "she" or "he"
*What's the deal with pronouns?
Pronouns are those words that we use instead of calling someone by their name every time we mention them. Most people use āhe/himā and āshe/herā, so we automatically assume which one to call them based on someone's looks. But it's actually not that simpleā¦
Gender is complicated. Some people ādon't look likeā their gender. Some prefer being called in a different way from what you'd assume. Some people don't fit into the boxes of āmaleā or āfemaleā and prefer more neutral language.
This tool lets you share a link to your pronouns, with example sentences, so that you can show people how you like to be called.
Why does it matter? Because of simple human decency. You wouldn't call Ashley āSamanthaā just because you like that name more or because āshe looks like a Samantha to youā. Or even if she does have the name āSamanthaā in her birth certificate but she absolutely hates it and prefers to use āAshleyā. And it's the exact same story with pronouns ā if you don't want to be rude towards someone, please address them properly. The only difference is that we usually know names, but not pronouns. We introduce ourselves with a name, but not pronouns. Let's change that!*
https://en.pronouns.page/
But how would i use xe in a sentence. Is it like this? Xe is a tall person.
there are examples on the page I linked before
here^
Gender is complicated. Some people ādon't look likeā their gender. Some prefer being called in a different way from what you'd assume.
Are you unhappy with the gender you were born with?
I won't speak for others, but it is usually something that people feel, not as much as a decision per se
My pronouns are he/him for what its worth
Are you unhappy with the gender you were born with?
no, I'm happy with my gender.
I'm unhappy with what people assumed I were because of my certain parts I had between my legs at birth. and then how they treated me because of that.
[we're always our gender, we just sometimes don't realise that it's not the same as sex we were assigned at birth]
But who came up with xe/xem? How can you feel like a xe?
It seems like a good choice as any, it is a pronoun that is neither he nor she
Therefore: xe
Ok, yes
Why bother changing prounouns? Dont adults get confused? Also guys like me must me annoying as shit.
Hii https://www.instagram.com/p/CWDodemsa9n/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link if you could like this post you would help me so much ā¤ļø
no
Those are my pronouns
ok :' (
!rule 6 is why
!rule 34
:x: Invalid rule indices: 34
Itās a neopronoun, which is pretty much just when someone doesnāt want to be referred in regards to gendered language I think
Correct me if Iām wrong
btw
They/them is not necessarily singular. Other people can be confused whether you are talking about a single person in a gender-neutral way or a group of people, which I think is a/the purpose of a neopronoun. I might be wrong though, or at least have incomplete information
If you would like to review the rules, you can check here: #rules
there's etymology on the linked page as well
there's even more info on Wiktionary/Wikipedia - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/xe#English "Apparently independently invented by several people, including Don Rickter (the pronoun appeared in the Unitarian Universalist publication UU World on 1 May 1973 and Mario Pei gave Rickter credit on page 145 of his 1978 book Weasel Words)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neopronoun "Attempts to create additional English-language pronouns date back centuries with more than 200 different gender-neutral pronouns introduced since the 1300s.[1]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_neutrality_in_languages_with_gendered_third-person_pronouns#Historical,_regional,_and_proposed_gender-neutral_singular_pronouns "Historically, there were two gender-neutral pronouns native to English dialects, ou[pronunciation?] and (h)a.[45] According to Dennis Baron's Grammar and Gender:[46]"
Neopronouns are a category of neologistic English third-person personal pronouns beyond "she", "he", and "they", as well as "one" and "it". Neopronouns are preferred by some non-binary individuals, as they may feel that neopronouns provide more options to reflect their gender identity more accurately than any conventional pronoun.Neopronouns can...
A third-person pronoun is a pronoun that refers to an entity other than the speaker or listener.
The English pronouns he and she are third-person personal pronouns specific to the gender of the person (not to be confused with grammatical gender).
The English pronoun they is an epicene (gender-neutral) third-person pronoun that can refer to plura...
If thats true then why are there more than one?
Because some people might feel comfortable being called something else
he/him, she/her, xe/xem, they/them? Is that what you are referring to?
Think theyāre referring to other neopronouns, like em/eir, etc.
I also think either of them are not widely used, unlike they/them, which again, is vague when it comes to number
How du you get uncomfortable when someone calls you for example "he"
- because I feel better with those pronouns
- ... I'm an adult
- as long as it's educational, you're not annoying. "Annoying" are the people who no matter how many sources I provide, refuse to accept anything
If you don't identify as a he
Example: if you identify as a girl, would you feel comfortable when people use gendered language referring to you as a boy?
Yes i understand. But how can one become triggered by such a small thing
even before I realised I'm nonbinary, I got annoyed with how many people default to "he" when talking about person they don't know, so I've been educating about singular they for years XD
Would you feel comfortable if someone referred to you as something you werenāt?
I think it can be argued that it's a symptom of a more wisely used practice of transphobia
No
nothing is "triggered". that's dogwhistle/bad meme used by transphobes.
trans people just feel uncomfortable and if they correct you at all (very often they won't, because it's awkward), they will do it politely
The same way someone can be triggered when ignoring their requests, regardless of what it is. Having the pronouns visible is one way to tell people what their preference is, and in reality there will be many cases where you won't know their preference before speaking to them. That is when it is important to communicate clearly and respectively.
For example, if I was unsure and assumed a pronoun and was corrected, it would be extremely rude of me to not use that corrected pronoun
Respecting peopleās pronouns is a matter of respect imo, if you try your best to respect it I think most people would just correct you if you accidentally got it wrong and they wouldnāt be rude about it.
This is a nice view of how "triggered snowflakes" works. Who gets more heated about referring properly to someone
Thatās a good comic, gonna save that
yeeee this convo is bait 
@sterile grail @harsh tundra @dapper dew very well said guys.

I hate the term "triggered" because it originally comes from psychiatry, meaning trauma trigger. And yes, repeated misgendering might trigger trauma responses. But right-wing/queerphobes made it look like any simple correction is being "triggered" and that it's aggressive (trauma responses are rarely lashing out on someone else, unless you're repeating and piling on and on the triggers)
āTriggered snowflakeā is a term Iāve noticed people use when theyāre either
A ) too adamant to listen to a polite request (like respecting pronouns)
B ) disagree
yee my trauma responses just make me sad lol would be funny if anyone felt threatened by that 
yep. like the comic above, although it uses that people are "offended too easily"
What gender are you guys?
Accidentally reacted to this; I hate how glitchy my phone is sometimes
Male
back to "triggered" and real triggered
e.g. I'm triggered (literally) by visuals or graphic mentions of physical abuse. that's deeply rooted trauma and I get reminded of it with some scenes in media etc.
I'm not "triggered" (nor triggered) by misgendering. I simply try to mention I use something else. if it's not respected, I'm annoyed, not triggered. because I'm used to it.
although I'm triggered by transphobic/queerphobic "jokes" around me - because they remind me I'm not safe in this country and that I had a middleaged guy literally yell to my face that "Hitler should've taken care of you all"...
Male
Between leg gender*. Idk what to call it
in general, I use the term nonbinary because it's easy to explain.
but nonbinary is a big umbrella of all identities that are not simply "man" or simply a "woman"
2nd letter of LGBT
... you're just asking people about their genitalia?

sex is the word youre looking for
Dear Christ this is a show
shit āļø
yes, sorry. But otherwise people wont answerš
This is a bit inappropriate
Its a learning experience, let's see if we can navigate it successfully
nah, genitalia.
sex is not as simple as genitalia and they specified they want "between legs gender"
Fwiw I hate neopronouns because if you have to explain to someone what your pronouns are and what they mean, then they're failing at their job.
people won't answer either way
Just recently it has started to get closer to the line
not "a bit". a lot
i answered 
nsfw talk*
Right, a lot
I just love transphobes who go "I don't use pronouns!", using pronoun in the sentence
You have my respectš
This seems like a VERY left-leaning server imo
communism is when gay
Python has inclusivity manifesto (or whatever it's called) and this server just follows it
Well, everyone knows python tho
I mean, its not a political server
true
We are an inclusive community
It kinda doesn't help that inclusivity can be political
The alternative is an intolerant community, which isn't a good environment for people to learn
Literally beginning of PyDis Code of Conduct:
We are committed to providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all, regardless of level of experience, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, or other similar characteristic.
I respect you tooš„¶
human rights shouldn't be "political", they should be a given
True

Pedantic but rights arent given, they are intrinsic
No, yeah, that is a good distinction to make
politics is when i ask to not get called slurs š„ŗ
yep. I'm just not thinking right now and forget words
How tf u write so stupidly fast
politics is when I don't want people yelling in my face that I should be killed (see above)
What country are you in?
Not sure why it matters, but the USA
⨠magic āØ
but really, I started it earlier, but decided to reply to another message, so I ctrl+a, ctrl+c, wrote reply to that another message, then ctr+v and continued with this :3
magic is when u press the ctrl key
in my case: Poland
which is really weird how middleaged guy was basically praising Hitler, given how Poland was affected by his politics...
Can i send gif?
I see
I need ur permission
I wouldn't go so far as to say I love transphobes, considering I'm a trans woman myself
And I certainly hope that wasn't a bite at me.
I don't think that was directed to you
Why does every furry use pronouns? Is it obligatory
it wouldn't be that bad if not for the fact that I had police officers next to me. I tried to tell them basically "ugh, excuse me, this guy here is breaking the law" and even though police is legally required to take any report (even if they later drop it), the officer was like "yeeeah? which one" and basically wanted me to list exact paragraph from codex which the guy broke (I'd say publicly praising illegal action as it has its own paragraph and promoting totalitatian/nazi ideology as he was basically praising Hitler)
because that's when I realised even though police is there with us, they're not there to really protect us - if they could turn the blind eye, they would...
nah, that was a bite at "I have to explain what pronouns are"... like, pronouns are taught in school, we all use pronouns!
you're using pronouns as well.
I, me, my, you, your... those are all pronouns
your mistake was to not be capitalist property, they would protect you then 
Well, yes. But why furrys use special ones
queer-owned property is still disregarded
didn't you notice the moment I said I'm just neither a guy nor a girl? why bring my profile picture into it? it's just a character of mine
and I thought you earlier called "she/her" one of "normal" pronouns?
Yes
because right now here we have an open furry using she/her and me (with furry pfp but never stating whether I'm a furry or not) using xe/xyr and they/them
didn't you say she/her was "normal"?
but what does it have to do with my pfp?
I already provided resources about pronouns
I literally quoted stuff when I gave links...
Why do people have to bring up the fact someone's a furry when it has no relevancy to the conversation?
and now you somehow decided to make it about my pfp instead of everything I said about gender, gendered language, and my identity?
as if my pfp being an animalistic character had anything to do with my gender?
I understand, your rightšš»
if someone uses Buggs Bunny or Micky Mouse in their pfp, would you ask how it ties to their pronouns as well?
those are animal characters with human-like features as well...
Yes
Quite an ignorant take
okay, how do waffles in your pfp affect your pronouns?

nounself pronouns, okay
I need to use notes to remember to refer to you using them
dammit, accidentally DMed you instead of making a note XD
Well that's one of the ....... exchanges I've seen in a while
Thank you for respecting us waffles. We have it tough out here man
It's just turned into shitposting now
This is probably bait now
not a "man"
Yeah we had a good run there for a little while
now
Let's move on shall we? Try to end it on a neutral note before everything sours
I also think that waffle is trolling us, but I'm gonna respect waffle's pronouns because I'm not like waffle
Now you're just shitposting 100% nicky
I'm respecting waffles pronouns!
I think we should .topic
Put it to rest buddy.
Wow, hating on waffles already
nounself pronouns exist, although they are usually shorter. I'm not gonna judge, if waffle's trolling, then waffle will either get annoyed or drop it
yeah this is kinda the good ending 
Next word on it gets modmailed
On prounouns?
Some people I know don't use pronouns, and that's fascinating to me. Not as hard as you'd think to talk and construct sentences
I think it is, but I don't think it's necessarily bad
gotcha
the thing is... many nonbinary people get pinned as trolls because they use nonstandard pronouns.
yes, this is trolling on Panakko's part but not because of those 'pronouns' on their own, but because of context in which they were put
but I'm refusing to show any "hypocrisy" by not respecting those
okay... <@&831776746206265384> it was fun when it lasted, but the troll finally came out clean. also misgender just above, when they already know Wolfgirl uses she/her pronouns
Yeah, I agree
yep had that happen last time i gave it a try
Tbf I agree with @harsh tundra here
Also continuous behavior ^ people were trying to explain to them earlier about pronouns in an educating way but they were too adamant
I had fun. Everything comes to an endš
!silence
ā silenced current channel for 10 minute(s).
!mute 375722057385771009 3d Trolling and on purpose misgendering won't stand here. Please re-read our #rules and #code-of-conduct.
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @worn cave until <t:1636829990:f> (2 days and 23 hours).
Also I would appreciate if that kind of stuff could be directly reported to modmail instead of flaimebating
!u silence
ā unsilenced current channel.
Thanks Akarys
needed this
What does the term flamebaiting mean btw?
For what its worth we had a relatively good convo for a little while, I learned some new things
Essentially feeding the trolls or driving the conversation to higher tensions
Ah, thanks
I don't doubt that :)
This is either a positive message or a low-key burn lol
When I add a ":)" it is that I truly mean it and don't want my message to sound ironical ;-;
well, it was education before. it wasn't malicious from the start. when they asked about "gender between legs" it could've been blamed on ignorance and they dropped it... it only became more open trolling recently (trying to tie my pfp with pronouns) and then the message I replied to was finally them not acting as not trolling, hence I called "coming out clean" as they finally dropped the mask of politeness/ignorance
Lemme re-read the last few messages
(tbh I don't think it was flamebaiting)
@solid pollen thank you!

Yeah, okay, it seems pretty fine
Yeah, I think ignorance should be assumed before malice, but it doesn't help that actually malicious people can hide under the veil of that presumption of ignorance
Oh well
It was only the last few messages that went sour
acceptable
Weirdly warm after a cold snap last week
Too warm for it being November ;_;
Itās pretty nice and breezy here
Canāt wait for the sharp cold next week
I need winter and snow
Luckily thereās some cold next week in store for a big chunk of America so
I'm ok for the snow to hold off, I want to do more mountain biking
Like it was not raining but still so moist in the air that it felt kinda wet.
Does it have that smell outside? Like the smell after rain thatās really fresh
This warm weather is going to outright kill all the plants I'm overwintering/putting into the ground now
Yeah
There were too few ducks at the park today though š¦
I like it when the pond is full of ducks.
Very bad.. there were clouds.. and, and some very tiny rain... worse weather this month so far
Mediterranean problems
imagine having any animal that isnt rock doves rats and roaches
Is it uncommon to have rain in southern France?
Around the Mediterranean sea, yeah
TN doesnāt get much snow anyways till Late Dec.
Rest of the France is pretty used to raining
Luckily there's roofs to block that.
Honestly, winter is the best season up here - thereās winter sports, Winter Olympics on some years, and thereās snow
True, but we do get rain :/
Is there a lid on that bucket or is that just the lightning?
Ah, rain is not fun unless itās heavy rain for me
Just lighting
I only like rain when sleeping
We get more rain per year than Seattle...so when it rains it rains hard
I only like rain when people I don't like are outside.
Oh wow, do you all get a lot of snow too?
Nah, 0.25" and people lose their minds
0.25ā only? Takes like 5-6ā here for people to go crazy, 2ā tp cancel school
2-3ā*
Atlanta snow 2014
Six years ago Tuesday, ice and two inches of snow brought the city of Atlanta to a complete standstill. The snow started falling at 12:30 p.m. on January 28, 2014. In just a matter of hours, Atlanta's winding highways had transformed into icy parking lots. The hilly side streets were even worse
Relevant ^
It shut the highway down for over 8 hours
Doesnāt seem like they were prepared for it at all
I've heard that there are places that don't even get to make snowmen every year š¦
Its the South...what did you really expect lol
Iām very sorry for said places
Winters here have been trashy recently
Because weāre just south of the mason Dixon line and all the big shows happen up north
Snows*
Like nearly every snow event cuts off at the line
I've read the messages and @worn cave was defintly trolling
Places in the American south don't have adequate infrastructure to manage snow. Roads don't get treated in advance of a storm, not enough plows available to clear roads in parallel, drivers who are not used to snow and much more likely to wreck than in places that regularly get snow (putting strain on first responders) etc
Sounds about right
we have profoundly moved on from that topic
Oh, sorry
I'm in Philadelphia, just slightly north of the Mason Dixon line, and it takes at least 3 inches of snow before people start considering closing businesses
i was in Bend, OR last winter, and uhh they don't know how to do snow removal either
I think from a yearly budget perspective, it doesn't make sense for very southern places to prep for snow if there hasn't been historical evidence for it. Obviously with climate change that changes thing up a bit, but it's hard to justify "we need to set aside money to salt the roads" when for most people's lives they've never had to deal with it
or maybe more accurately, they privatized the whole thing and they cant seem to unscrew it up
Totally. It's a rational choice, but a choice that makes small amounts of snow into major problems.
Destiny arrives all the same
Huh?
š
No but really, huh?
Those pronouns look oddly familiar
could you troll somewhere else please?
That was strange. Time to add another blocked user I guess
Blocking me because of an emoji.
Snowflakes
Yeah, seems to be a mute evasion account
I tend to block trolls, sorry not sorry
Plus it is interesting what happens when their ego isn't fed any attention
True
Same here, around 2-3ā in D.C.
Speaking of, there are quite a few people on the east coast in PyDis
5 in DMV from what Iāve counted, and a few others on the east coast
We have hundreds of thousands of people in pydis, there's bound to be some east coast people.
DMV - Delaware/Maryland/Virginia?
Fair enough, though thereās quite an abundance of East Coasteners (I donāt know the demonym)
Yep
DC*
Delaware Maryland Virginia is known as Delmarva
DC Maryland Virginia is known as the DMV
Pretty confusing haha
Run DMV
DMV is also the Department of Motor Vehicles, aka the 7th ring of hell
Delmarva refers to a peninsula that is partially territory of Delaware, partly Maryland, and partly Virgina
I haven't heard it used to refer to the 3 states as a whole, just to the region that's split up across 3 States
On a second thought I think Iāve heard both
I'm in the southeastern corner of PA, under half an hour from Delaware
And under 10 minutes from New Jersey
It would take me weeks.
I guess it depends on your chosen method of transport
There has been, on and off for a long time, proposals to make Delmarva its own state.
The biggest problem is getting into the country with corona rulings.
Ahhh I see
That sounds like it would have zero substance but I honestly think it would be better as its own state
The eastern shore is not very close to the rest of MD tbb
tbh
It's unlikely to ever happen, but yeah. The argument is that the "mainland" part of MD and VA does a poor job of understanding and representing the needs of the peninsula
And from what Iāve seen, our government (state) only cares about the peninsula for the beaches
and the revenue it brings back
Completely off topic but whatās the question asking for?
The amount of interest that was earning in m months
I think it's an equation they want you to give
Not really; I might be wrong but I don't think there's enough information to find either of them
You'll have to find the expression for I, m and r are variables in it.
You don't have to find actual values for I m and r
I'm not sure what that means.
I think it's looking for I = expression
This is confusing-
I = p * r * m
So you bring the p to the other side
I / p = r * m
Is that it?
Not really; I think the answer is something like I = (some expression that uses all given variables other than I)
You should probably sleep then
Do you know the formula for calculating simple interest?
Just gotta do my Math hw and practice for English, Iāll probably be done in like 30 mins
Yeah, I = PRT
You can base off that and then use the given details in the question
Not really; there is something given in the question that is not a variable
simple interest is not cumulative, so it's always r% per year, (r/12)% per month
so l(m, r) = 240*(r/1200)*m
(/1200 because we already have /12 and percent is 1/100)
Wait so how to you get the (m, r)
this is like f(x) - it's function f that is dependent on variable x
m, r are both variables
you can just write l=, giving variables in parentheses is more formal and will be needed in higher levels of maths (where some things will be dependent on one thing, some on two, some on one but different than previously...)
and cumulative/compound would need to be 1-(1+r/100)^m to work
because 1.1*1.1 == 1.21 and 0.1*0.1 == 0.01 - we don't have growth if we're removing the base 1 š
simplify. it can be simplified
no
240 = 2*120 but 1200 is not 2*100
so you couldn't have simplified by dividing both by the same number because one was divided by 2 and the other one was divided by 12
I = 20(r/100)*m?
And even more
I = 5(r/20)*m
Yeah?
I wonāt write it down on my nb yet but Iāll put it somewhere online for now
Thank you all!
Oh yeah it can be simplified even more
you did one by 4 (20/4 == 5) and the other by 5 (100/5==20)
I = 1(r/5)*m?
yes
Did you ever start reviewing a research paper, think "Okay, I think I can do this" then realize you only covered the first two pages of 50?
quick question #ot0-psvmās-eternal-disapproval
is that me?
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @sour elm until <t:1636593179:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: duplicates rule: sent 4 duplicated messages in 10s).
is Rust good for ML?
hmm yep
I don't think there's much out there in the way of ML libs for rust, so probably not the greatest option quite yet
Although that's not going to stop me from trying to write the neural net for my current project in it š
hi jack!
does anyone know the name of the #link at the end of a url?
like
https://example.com/myendpoint#thisthing
^^ - that
anchor?
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/cics-ts/5.1?topic=concepts-components-url says "fragment identifier"
Yeah, though I've seen some other site just call it "fragment"
I also thought "anchor", so that's probably also not too uncommon of a name for it
i looked it up once and it said anchor and ididnt know
I mention it not being too uncommon since you probably shouldn't worry about using common names that aren't the "technical" names of those things
Others probably know what you're talking about when you talk about an "anchor" in the context of a URL
Also they are handy for navigations
Should I learn java first or javascript?
I think the syntax would be similar? (like C and C++)?
They're both kind of for entirely different things
only similarity is "Java" in "JavaScript"
that and some.. C-like syntax
What do you want to do?
nothing specific.. just wanted to learn a new language..
which is used commonly
What are they for?
already know it
JavaScript is used mostly for web dev... IMO it shouldn't be used anywhere else
Java...
...
it...
uh...
you...
Just say it.. I can handle the truth
idk does anyone even use Java anymore except for old software
I genuinely can't think of anything Java would really excel at
ohk
maybe someone will hop in and give an example
but tbh I'd probably stay away from both
and I don't think I'd advise learning a language for the sake of it
I wanted to learn a new language so I thought if I am doing it then better do one that will come handy and I had heard a lot about these two
yeah idk, if you plan on messing with web dev you can go with JavaScript
but Java tbh is probably a bit useless for the most part as of now
if you wanna do game dev, maybe hop onto C++ or C#
android apps, backend dev with spring, minecraft mods
but aren't more people using Kotlin for all of that, now?
aside from Minecraft mods
since mixins need to be programmed in Java
huh, do they?
tbh I literally never see it outside of Minecraft
Yep. That's where I found this information out
Mixins are a powerful and important tool used in the Fabric ecosystem. Their primary use case is modifying existing code in the base game, whether it be through injecting custom logic, removing mechanics, or modifying values. Note that mixins must be written in Java, even if you use Kotlin or another language.
idk, I really don't see Java anywhere other than Minecraft mods
I'm bored i think i might send some random person a text that only says "we need to talk"
We need to talk.

k
3 sextrillion devices
hi
how do i make wt run a command
with a command
i want to run that command on launch with wt
reasons why I abandoned Windows Terminal
configuration too weak
embrace Alacritty
ooo
only problem is that you can't really set it as the default terminal
(Thanks Windows -_-)
god. I hate the registry
I'm never willingly messing with it ever again
(thanks windows -_-)
hate whoever designed it
ty, i'll look around
it just really looks like a warning
is it wrong to get a help message
Honestly a gui help message is stupid
If it's meant to be used in the terminal, put it there
Who knows C#?
Could you maybe spare us and ask your question \š© you'll get answers far more quicky if you ask your question directly
Okay.
Who can teach me C#? all I know is ```cs
Console.WriteLine("Hello Python");
No offense, but nobody's really just gonna hop right out of the gate and just teach you C#. The best we can really do is maybe send you some resources
Something like https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/ is probably a great starting point
Ok,
If you ever come across any more specific lines of inquiry, I'm sure someone could point you in the right direction
but it's a lot to ask for someone to teach you something when there's plenty of (probably better worded) resources out there
@rough sapphire with your question from #python-discussion, you'll need a package like node-fetch or axios
There might be the XMLHTTPRequest thing, but I've never figured that out
yeah I saw on so but didn't get anything :(
@shadow jetty hope that i won't bother you much, i have a doubt on the raycaster example, how do i rotate given angle? i don't understand how the np.pi things work, is that radian?
thanks
yes it's radians
np
lol i doubt
meanwhile me checking wt's repo
to make an exe file not open a console window when it runs, run the command:
editbin.exe /subsystem:windows foo.exe
``` needs (msvc)
.bm
i will need this
;-;
i'm about to ask a question which know is possible, so make it easier, i need someone to say "yes"
is running x11 behind nsjail in docker possible? I don't need to see the x11 server myself, just run it in nsjail in docker
@shadow jetty sorry for ping,
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\user\OneDrive\Documents\cool_tuis\gurkshin_impact\game.py", line 147, in <module>
MyApp().run()
File "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\nurses_2\app.py", line 51, in run
asyncio.run(self._run_async())
File "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\asyncio\runners.py", line 44, in run
return loop.run_until_complete(main)
File "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 641, in run_until_complete
return future.result()
File "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\nurses_2\app.py", line 119, in _run_async
await asyncio.gather(
File "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\nurses_2\app.py", line 116, in auto_render
render()
File "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\nurses_2\widgets\_root.py", line 126, in render
child.render(canvas[dest_slice], colors[dest_slice], child_rect)
File "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\nurses_2\widgets\raycaster\raycaster.py", line 356, in render
cast_ray(column)
File "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\nurses_2\widgets\raycaster\raycaster.py", line 130, in cast_ray
- camera_pos[side]
IndexError: invalid index to scalar variable.
what does this mean? what did i do wrong
I think i got it
sowory for the ping
Xvfb is probably what you want
mmmmmmmmm, this program I use at work is fundamentally broken for what I want to do because it was recompiled with a modern compiler and nobody double checked functionality. Do... do I just write my own in not Fortran?
I would assume any excuse to write sth in not-fortran is good one
Now the big question, what do I attempt the rewrite in?
fivetran
It needs to be fast computationally, so def not python and similar
julia would be my suggestion, but idk if you care to learn julia.
Oooh, julia wouldn't be a bad choice
Inb4 Rust lovers
I mean, maybe Go?
Is that the "compile in an instant" language?
yes
if it's doing arrays, odin is meant to be good at that, but it's very much an obscure thing
What other languages are used at your work Kat?
It'd be weird to have like one Rust, V, or any other option across your whole organization
julia is a prettier name than V i rest my case
Fortran, excel, matlab š
I've at least introduced Python
pythong š³
I mean, wouldn't Python with NumPy, SciPy, Pandas and that whole area be fast enough?
Nah, not for this
Though they only make sense if you're looping, which I guess you may not always be
so more or less C++, rust, julia or a wackier LLVM language
Cython? You can use it with Python typings and keep 100% Python syntax. It gives you a bit more control to actually make the speedups.
cython seems a bit pointless when you are just writing C
Julia is that other scientific language yeah?
ye
it's supposed to be really fast, though it can be hard to replicate
since it has a slow runtime
but the actual math is native speed
Well that's the thing, Python syntax (if you use the Python annotations for the static typing; I really dislike the older Pyrex syntax) at the speed of C (but obviously that includes the semantics of C).
I mean, if you are dealing with C semantics anyway, may as well just use C and get easier tooling
In what way?
I can't really imagine Cython being a better environment for C programming than y'know, C
Potentially at the speed of C
You still have to properly work the Cython syntax to make it do that, and even then it's debatable whether it'd hit the max speed compared to doing it in raw C
A lot of faith has to be put into the Cython compiler
and I mean, there are better languages for doing fast computation than C
True
fortran 
I would rather not considering the current problems are because we switched fortran compilers ;_;
What operations are you doing?
Does GPU provide a substantial speed up?
Also, off-topic but does anyone have a preferred flow diagram maker?
Numerical computations. The code is not particularly suited to putting on a GPU
I'm sad 2021 sucks
how the hell did you get a capital letter in the channel name
i copy pasted the letter
into google
and it shows the same results as if i just typed the letter X
inspect element
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
Or maybe smart. Google knows that if you type a MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF CAPITAL X you probably mean the same thing as a regular X
ok
Hi
redesigning the train network
I also got back to factory, good stuff.
Not so much for my sleep schedule though
it is 3:30am lmao
let's gooo
ugh help me
i need to know how to tell that my program is running inside an x-server environment
literally just trying to see how xservers work lmao
@rough sapphire gibe ideas.
i just realised this is pydis and not your server
nope
:)
LOL 86% dislike already
it must be those targeted attacks they're talking about rather than the creators disagreeing š
lol
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hm ok
!charinfo ļ½
\uff53 : FULLWIDTH LATIN SMALL LETTER S - ļ½
i think i have a dangerous high pressure or something I'm scared of getting up uhhhhhhh wat do
@shadow jetty Hello again, sorry for ping,
the following log is the camera's pos attribute.
[LOG] [2.5 2.5] [TIME:1636797587.1866782]
[LOG] [2.5 3.5] [TIME:1636797588.1085587]
[LOG] [3.34210526 4.18421053] [TIME:1636797588.733552]
[LOG] [4.18421053 5.18421053] [TIME:1636797589.514804]
[LOG] [5.18421053 6.18421053] [TIME:1636797590.1866817]
[LOG] [6.02631579 6.86842105] [TIME:1636797590.7804291]
[LOG] [6.20360111 6.41412742] [TIME:1636797590.952308]
[LOG] [6.24792244 6.45844875] [TIME:1636797591.1398075]
[LOG] [6.28116343 6.43905817] [TIME:1636797591.2804294]
[LOG] [6.31440443 6.52493075] [TIME:1636797591.452303]
I only ran
class AutoSizeCaster(AutoSizeBehavior, RayCaster):
def on_press(self, key_press_event):
x, y = self.camera.pos
match key_press_event.key:
case "t":
asyncio.create_task(self.camera.move((x, x), (y, y+1)))
Why did and how did x change? I didn't change it in any form, and if so how do i fix this issue?
Thanks
!charinfo sus
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
D:
damn i lived... i mean good
if the async task is still being started in the camera, you'll want to remove it or stop it
oh, perhaps that is the case
thank you
hmm english translation on genshin is kinda special, in liyue it follows mandarin to do transliteration, in inazuma it followed japanese i think?
Anyone wanna participate a chess tournament?
@verbal wren yo yo
sup
^...
meeeeee saddddd
examssssss
ruined my life
me sadddddddd
so muchhhhh
#sedlife
there's still an extra space between u and s
yes right my badtab
Wow, still hope
Colour in the terminal takes either a module for rich text or raw escape sequences.
Escape sequences are fun cos you print one and it does something else instead of displaying, for example print the following text green, or in the top left corner of the terminal, or toggle highlighted text
But they're a bit unappealing to look at in the code, hence modules like rich
uh?
To test out the C I've been learning, I made a mini physics simulation with points and sticks connected to form pendulums (like in that Sebastian Lague video about the AI's video game idea). Originally this was going to be just a quick demo, so I made the terrible design decision of having a global array of all points that I would ever need to render, and another one for all the sticks.
The issue is that now I want to make the simulation more complex, and I keep getting bugs because of those global arraysāI keep accidentally accessing the uninitialised points and sticks. This is a real pain, so I'd like to hear if anyone has an idea of how to better structure the system?
I'm not sure why this design is bad
Maybe it's just me. I've found that whenever something goes wrong, I can usually trace it back to accidentally uninitialising a point. But since I don't know exactly where I did that, it takes a long time to track down the offending function.
In Python, if I accidentally set something to None to uninitialise it for example, I would get a traceback saying where I'm trying to access an attribute of None which doesn't exist. But with my array, I have to make everything be of type Point, so if I set the initialised attribute of a point to be false, it still has the position attribute, meaning that it gets rendered without errors.
So do you have, like, a sparse array where all the points live, but some of them are uninitialized and don't count as points anymore?
Yeah
You could have an array of pointers
Then NULL will be a pretty clear indication that a point is uninitialized
Or you could have a flag in your struct
So I'm currently using an initialised attribute in my struct, but it doesn't appear to be as foolproof as I originally thought it would be. Perhaps I'm just not used to this style of code
If I had an array of pointers, where would they point to? Another array storing the actual structs?
malloc'd structs
Dynamic allocation baybeeee
You could also just have a secondary array instead of a flag, I assume there wouldn't be much difference in terms of memory usage
Just make sure to zero it instead of leaving garbage afloat
Ok, thanks for the advice! Iāll have a think about each of the options š
@broken deware you using valgrind or asan
that should give you almost exceptions
including tracebacks
Iāve been using lldb to traceback segfaults. Are those two different?
well, that won't give you an error for accessing uninitialised memory, right?
try passing -fsanitize=address,undefined when compiling
Ah ok thanks!
I don't get it
He doesn't want ubuntu he wants linux
I think that's the joke
._.
xd
same i don't want Ubuntu i want Linux 
@eager cliff
hi
hello
what up
I remember saying you wanted to help us write meow
i do recall this
we're starting now, are you still up for it?
hmm.
If your down, I'll invite you to the server
i do not think so anymore sorry lol
should projects use C11 or c99
for something like this
Didn't you say c11 has less suport
i dont mak etypos
i would suggest C99. yeah, C11 has less support and it is unlikely you will need anything in C11.
great
I mean, the differences are minimal, right
talking to hsp v4.
well, C11 introduced a couple new headers and stuff, but.
functionally for most of what you will do, very minimal difference.
let me grab them.
The C standard library or libc is the standard library for the C programming language, as specified in the ISO C standard. Starting from the original ANSI C standard, it was developed at the same time as the C library POSIX specification, which is a superset of it. Since ANSI C was adopted by the International Organization for Standardization, t...
you can see which headers were added in which version by sorting it.
here:
unless you want to deal with atomic operations, you are fine.
ok thanks :D
im part of the standard lib
In C and C++ are non zero integers truthy? i.e. can you do if (n) instead of if (n != 0) 
yes
Before there were the types of true and false, this is how it was done
In C arenāt true and false just macros for 1 and 0
Also @solid pollen what is this otn?
I think it was 10 years before we had stdbool, though
yi. but u can make your own stdbool.
yeah
just have a uterus and give birth to it. ez
#typedef true 1
#typedef false 0
yes thats the baby
the child of #define and typedef
maybe I should've done #typedefine \š©
#typedefine (bool)true (int)1
``` typedefine++
:faint:
š¤ stop typing :((
ok
The earth is a torus and we all know it
the earth is the blender donut
Yes
now I want donuts
you a flat earther?



