ot1-perplexing-regexing

[solid elbow]

unless you're working with very low level stuff, you don't often need to manipulate bits.

[solemn leaf]

nice visuals

[mild geyser]

there's also verryyy popular when working with hardware

[solid elbow]

yeah, true.

[rough sapphire]

that confused me.. alot.

[solid elbow]

they're used for bit masks occasionally, where you use 1 short int as though it's 16 separate bools.

[solemn leaf]

if both pair of bits are different -> return 1
else
return -> 0

[rough sapphire]

but it edited the binary?

this is too much math for me lmao

what is 2**32

[solid elbow]

the result has a 1 in a place if either operand had a 1 there, but not both. It's got a 0 for that place if both were 0 or both were 1

[solemn leaf]

!e

a = 0b101
b = 0b010
print(bin(a^b))

[royal lake]

@solemn leaf :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

0b111

[solid elbow]

2 to the 32nd power.

[rough sapphire]

I only know + - / *

[solid elbow]

it's a bit over 4 billion.

[rough sapphire]

is that much?

[solid elbow]

!e print(2**32)

[royal lake]

@solid elbow :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

4294967296

[solemn leaf]

returns a new binary i mean

[latent scaffold]

we've not even talked about bit shifts

those are what scare me

[rough sapphire]

so 2**4 is 4*4?

[solid elbow]

yes

both of those are 16.

[rough sapphire]

ok i've learned this one

[rough sapphire]

'tis nothing but 2^(2^5)

[solemn leaf]

!e

a = 0b010
print(bin(a >> 1))

[royal lake]

@solemn leaf :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

0b1

[rough sapphire]

just didn't know it was ** in python

[solemn leaf]

lmfao

[latent scaffold]

:faint:

[solemn leaf]

it shifts the bits be the number specified in >> (right) or <<(left) direction

[rough sapphire]

what's >>?

[solid elbow]

ok, yes, there's also bit shifts, where the binary digits move left or right.

[rough sapphire]

omg

[mild geyser]

in case anyone else is confused by why "not" acts so weird in Python, it's cause Python ints aren't a specific bit-size, but can be any size. So a bitwise "not" would theoretically require flipping all the zero bits on the left, which you obviously can't do

[rough sapphire]

@rough sapphire this

[royal lake]

@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

0b11

[solid elbow]

a left shift by 1 multiplies by 2, a right shift by 1 (floor) divides by 2

a left shift by 2 multiplies by 4, a right shift by 2 floor divides by 4. Etc.

[solemn leaf]

https://files.realpython.com/media/lshift.e06f1509d89f.gif

[royal lake]

@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

0b1110

[rough sapphire]

Bruh

[solid elbow]

so:
10101 << 3 is 10101000
10101 >> 3 is 10

[solemn leaf]

lmao

[rough sapphire]

so adding a digit?

[rough sapphire]

Adding a zero if no digit available.

[solid elbow]

left shifts add N zeoes on the least significant side.

[solemn leaf]

The bitwise left shift operator (<<) moves the bits of its first operand to the left by the number of places specified in its second operand. It also takes care of inserting enough zero bits to fill the gap that arises on the right edge of the new bit pattern:

[solid elbow]

right shifts drop the least significant bit N times.

[solemn leaf]

damn

[rough sapphire]

Which is of course assuming our language is N bit.

[solemn leaf]

oh i found a general pattern

[rough sapphire]

!e ```py
print(1010 << 3)

[royal lake]

@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

8080

[rough sapphire]

For binary. Yes.

what.

[latent scaffold]

technically both sides do but leading zeros are insignificant, right?

[solemn leaf]

exactly what that pattern says

[latent scaffold]

or maybe it's trailing zeros

[rough sapphire]

since when does binaries have 8?

[solemn leaf]

1010 << 3 = 1010 * 2(to the power 3)

[solemn leaf]

thats decimal

[latent scaffold]

nope. leading zeros

[rough sapphire]

int?

[solid elbow]

that doesn't seem like a useful way to think of it, but sure. You can add any number of 0s at the start without changing the number, just like how 123 in decimal is the same as 00123 in decimal.

[solemn leaf]

leading zero's can be used by us for better understanding maybe

[solid elbow]

!e ```py
print(bin(1010 << 3))

[royal lake]

@solid elbow :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

0b1111110010000

[solemn leaf]

int with base 10

!e print(bin(8080))

[royal lake]

@solemn leaf :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

0b1111110010000

[rough sapphire]

why did it add on both sides?

[solid elbow]

wrong example

!e ```py
print(bin(0b1010 << 3))

[royal lake]

@solid elbow :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

0b1010000

[solid elbow]

there we go.

[latent scaffold]

idk. helps me understand that the behavior of both should only differ by direction

[solid elbow]

needed the 0b to tell it that 1010 was binary, not decimal.

[rough sapphire]

oh ok

!e print(bin(0b1010 >> 3))

[royal lake]

@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

0b1

[solid elbow]

>> 3 means lose the last 3 bits, << 3 means add 3 0s at the right. That's all.

[rough sapphire]

so no matter what, something always happens to the right side of the binary, either it removes, or adds

ok got it

[solid elbow]

yep.

[rough sapphire]

thanks again btw

[solid elbow]

less scared now? 😄

[solemn leaf]

xD

[rough sapphire]

what does this mean? "child process in a multiprocessing concept"

[latent scaffold]

Perhaps it's just the trauma of being in an environment where they become necessary

never again

[solid elbow]

uh - there's a Python module called multiprocessing that lets you split work across multiple OS processes

that sentence is referring to one of those child processes.

[odd sluice]

wat

[rough sapphire]

is that python?

[solid elbow]

that's C.

[odd sluice]

python source code

[solid elbow]

it's part of the C code that makes up the Python interpreter.

[mild abyss]

i see C, i get immunity

[rough sapphire]

oh ok i got scared for a sec

[solid elbow]

or, it's C code that could appear in the Python interpreter, anyway.

[latent scaffold]

You C see?

[solid elbow]

yeah, corrected myself.

[mild abyss]

ascorbic acidic code

[solid elbow]

why though? wchar_t is so weird

why not just a UTF-8 char* like Unix would use?

[rough sapphire]

How tf do u guys know all this?

and remember it all

[latent scaffold]

they are sponge

[solid elbow]

I've been learning this all for 20 years, give or take.

and it's, ya know, my job that I do for 40 hours a week give or take 😄

[rough sapphire]

20 years??????

[latent scaffold]

incoming "that's longer than I've been alive"

[rough sapphire]

sir what was the first language u learned?

[latent scaffold]

oh. or not

pretend that's what I said, then

[rough sapphire]

(its also true)

[solid elbow]

Python was one of the first languages I learned. I played with it in high school.

I also learned VBA in high school, and TI Basic (a language you could program TI calculators like the TI 83 in)

[dapper jasper]

if anyone can help thatll be phenomenal

I max(2,5,7,3)
II max((2,5,7,3))
III max[2,5,7,3]
IV max([2,5,7,3])

Which of the above shows the correct usage of the max() function?```

[rough sapphire]

What's your IQ?

[solid elbow]

and I learned a smidge of JScript in high school, too.

[dapper jasper]

8th grade computer science homework lol

[solid elbow]

that's microsoft's javascript before microsoft started to just use regular javascript.

[rough sapphire]

like, lets say i've coded python everyday for 2 years straight, after 1 month I'll forget 80% of what I learned during the 2 years

do u guys take notes on everything or what? how do u remember all?

[solid elbow]

somewhat high, but IQ matters less than perseverance, really.

[latent scaffold]

If you apply the knowledge you gain, it'd be hard to forget some things

[solid elbow]

I do have a good memory for trivia, though.

[dapper jasper]

constant practice till it gets burnt into your brain personally

[solid elbow]

when you use stuff every day, it's hard to forget. And you learn a lot of stuff if you get into a coding career.

[rough sapphire]

trust me, this convo we had, when I wake up tomorrow, I wont even know who you are, or ghoulie, or anything we talked about

[mild abyss]

contribute and make projects i guess. but easier said than done. some people do take notes or code snippets

[latent scaffold]

I'm sure you would've taken at least something away from this discussion

[solid elbow]

there were absolutely things that didn't come naturally to me, and that I had to be taught multiple times for it to click.

[solemn leaf]

thats what skills are

[solid elbow]

I swear 3 different classes tried to teach me big O notation before it clicked for me.

[latent scaffold]

oh no

[dapper jasper]

whats that?

[latent scaffold]

Something I've been delaying for a while

time complexity ;-;

[solid elbow]

a way of describing how the performance of a function changes as the inputs to it grow infinitely large.

[rough sapphire]

trust me, idk why, or how, but I forget everything, if not tmrw, it will be the day after, prob because of my adhd idk tbh

[dapper jasper]

oh the On(x) thing?

[solid elbow]

yeah.

[solemn leaf]

👀 does learning them and other algorithms help you in daily life work (job,etc)

[solid elbow]

big o lets you quantify whether giving a function an input that's 1000 times larger will make the function run a thousand times slower, or a million times slower, or the same speed.

[dapper jasper]

yep that big O is a big no for me

[latent scaffold]

One of these days I'll want to tackle time complexity

[latent scaffold]

that was unnecessarily funny

thank you for this

[solid elbow]

#algos-and-data-structs will be there for you.

[solemn leaf]

ye

[solid elbow]

it's something that's tested for in junior hire interviews, so it is pretty helpful to know.

[rough sapphire]

U kidding?

[solemn leaf]

so mainly for acing the interviews i presume

[solid elbow]

and it does give you a basis for understanding data structures. Without knowing big oh, you really can't make sense of why some data structures are better for a particular task than others.

[rough sapphire]

where can I learn big oh

[latent scaffold]

right so like sets and dictionaries and stuff

[solid elbow]

I believe there's some pinned messages in #algos-and-data-structs for it.

[latent scaffold]

I remember switching from a tuple to a set made one of my programs several times faster

[solemn leaf]

i mean speaking of web development , it does not generally require algo knowledge ig

[latent scaffold]

I was trying to see how fast I could get, for the fun of it

[solid elbow]

more like how does a dict work, how does a list work, why is using a list for some jobs much slower than a dict when it's faster than a dict for other jobs.

[rough sapphire]

btw i know how lists and dicts works, but i've never understood tuples, and the % operator, any1 who can help me?

[solid elbow]

I don't mean how to use lists and dicts, I mean how they work internally.

[latent scaffold]

:faint: oh boy

[solid elbow]

a list is a dynamic array of references under the hood, and a dict is a hash table.

and a data structures course will teach you what those words mean.

[solemn leaf]

understanding internal working is helpful to make / change stuffs to make it more efficient 👌

[solid elbow]

and what problems a dynamic array is well suited for, and what problems a hash table is well suited for.

Yeah, if you don't know how a list works, it's very easy to write very slow code that uses lists.

and worse, it'll probably work on your small set of testing data, and then fail with your large set of real world data

[dapper jasper]

(how to crash prod server 101)

[solid elbow]

as far as how to use them, a tuple is just like a list, except it can't be changed once it's created.

so it doesn't have .append or .insert, and you can't assign to it with tup[idx] = val, but you can read from it with val = tup[idx], and do other normal list-like stuff with it.

sometimes, that inability to change it is an asset. I mentioned hash tables above, and they're one of those cases. They use the value of a key to decide where to put it, and if the key's value could change later, they wouldn't be able to find it again.

so, hash tables (both dicts and sets in Python) require that the keys be types whose values can't change.

[nocturne venture]

more precisely types that implement __hash__, which isn't well defined for lists and other mutables, but you could implement it yourself and have a mutable with a hash but that's rarely a good idea

[acoustic moss]

there's a TreeSet in java.util

[wooden silo]

Refrain from posting random memes and pranks with no context.

[buoyant gust]

ok sorry

i wish there was channel for memes

[clear plume]

Wouldn't work here

Too hard to moderate + promotes spam

[wooden silo]

This is a server for learning and discussing Python. There are other forums that are more appropriate for sharing random memes.

[buoyant gust]

alr i am gonna find other servers

should i delete that?

[wooden silo]

Delete what?

[dire siren]

like there's no time limit

i assume this will be kept forever

*i mean i can, but should i

[tribal aurora]

wth are these

[dire siren]

genshin

[tribal aurora]

ik

[dire siren]

standard wishes

[tribal aurora]

what is even the purpose of this game

[dire siren]

waste time

[tribal aurora]

was that an order

[dire siren]

wym

[tribal aurora]

"waste time"

[dire siren]

that's the purpose of the game

and possibly waste money

[limber mantle]

@ionic light boop

anyway. I am quite attracted to learn Golang

I still consider that writing in python is twice faster

but Golang makes... quality results in terms of performance

I think Golang is well to know as second language at least 😉

Java is super famous for backend. Seeing its Spring like everywhere.
Plus it could be useful to use for mobile app. Java -> Kotlin -> Mobile App

[ionic light]

I learned the basics of Java and aiming to learn 6 Lang's but yes it sucks 😂. I still don't know why this idea of learning 6 Lang's came in my mind but yes it is great to learn this things 😁

[limber mantle]

Never really encountered Ruby to know about Ruby

except for hearing about Ruby on Rails

which is sort of Ruby counterpart to Python Django

[ionic light]

I sometimes think that shall I learn ruby or not

[limber mantle]

Anyway. So, I guess
Java will be middle to everything. Backend / Desktop App / Mobile dev, it can do everything.

Golang would be Backend / DevOps scripting / Desktop App

[ionic light]

Any application for ruby?

[limber mantle]

Ruby, at least Backend for sure

it will work as scripting for small nedds too

definitely not mobile dev

possibly limited desktop app at the level of python

[ionic light]

That's what python does in a better way

Seems like ruby is a waste of time if I know python

[limber mantle]

well, quite right)

they look taking the same niche, but Python can work also as ML and DS

[ionic light]

Better not to learn ruby after learning python

😂

I think I should go for spring or gin

I have even heard they are very fast

[limber mantle]

I want to learn golang

[ionic light]

I know basics of Java

[limber mantle]

well, be sure to know that Java eats a lot

I heard rumours about its RAM consumption)

[ionic light]

I am aware of that and tbh java isin't that bad as the people say

[limber mantle]

I guess so.

Anyway, it is interesting option for Android Development in a future

Java is probably still supported there

and Kotlin I heard is basically just some sort of a step forward Java, it shares a lot of things as far as I heard

[ionic light]

Yeah, I don't know about others but to be honest for me kotlin sucks but yes in this place Java helped me alot

[limber mantle]

I wish to learn Golang because it is...

compiled language

the size of the program in comparison to Python programs ;%

when u don't need to take all those libraries with you

and yes I know that python can be compiled as well, but that's sort of not always possible

[graceful basin]

doesn't go still have pretty hefty binaries

though IG it would be smaller than python

[mild abyss]

Just Zig

for more pain

[graceful basin]

Zig doesn't have a standard library, so it isn't really comparable with go

[limber mantle]

First time hearing about this language

going to tell my friend Zig that he has same named language as him

[mild abyss]

wait is std in zig not a standard lib?

https://github.com/ziglang/zig/wiki/How-to-read-the-standard-library-source-code

[graceful basin]

what I mean is that the stdlib doesn't do enough to be really compared to go or python

[mild abyss]

oh sure. zig is still experimental.

[graceful basin]

well, it won't ever do all that much

since, y'know, small binaries

can't have an http server in the stdlib if you want a small binary

[limber mantle]

anyway, the golang offers 40 times performance boost in comparison to Python
and terraform and k8s were written in golang, that all i need to know in order to choose learning it next.
I chose being DevOps as secondary specialization. Golang is the most preferable scripting lang for DevOps

[graceful basin]

yeah, if you want devops, go is the way to go

[tardy rain]

speed isnt everything

otherwise we'd all be writing apis in c

[limber mantle]

golang offers a good enough balance between speed and easy writing

not easy as python, but much easier than C

[graceful basin]

yeah, go was not used for perf, it was used because it's C but not awful to write in

[tardy rain]

i dont think not learning ruby because its slow is a valid criticism/evaluation of the language

[graceful basin]

and while you can talk to low level OS apis with python, go/C do that job just fine as well, and you don't have as hard of a time dealing with keeping a python runtime up

though keeping a runtime cross-fork is still kind of a pain in go

[mild abyss]

no experience with ruby so cant tell but slowness can be a valid criticism for some tasks

[graceful basin]

ruby is so slow that it is sometimes an issue, since you can't run a rails app on a bottom tier VPS

but even then, I have written things in ruby before and it is still realtime for most things

[warm pilot]

Lol i sometimes surprised how im opposite of myself when im angry and when im not. When im not angry i think too much if i would hurt people with my sentences etc. , but when im angry i just yell to people and think no more 😄

[random frigate]

is there a lot of physics in cs?

because i am literally gonna fall asleep in this physics class rn

T__T

[thick musk]

not really 🤔 but cs is applicable to physics, especially with data analysis and stuff

[random frigate]

cool, cool

[inland wolf]

if u want to make games physics is going to help

[random frigate]

yeah, im using pygame and theres some gravity and coordinates involved

but its not like i need to take a physics course for that..right? O__o

[gritty zinc]

well, you'd do well to know school-level physics in order to implement physics

[young shoal]

physics is needed for physics

[supple turret]

Elos

[random frigate]

oh god O__o

[tardy rain]

big if tru

[random frigate]

i just physically cannot care about physics

i mean, in an academic setting

[solemn leaf]

physics is life relatable 🛐

[random frigate]

omg oreooo

nice

[solemn leaf]

just opposite of chem

smh

[random frigate]

chem is kinda like physics though

electron

woooo

[solemn leaf]

yes

atomic structure moment

[random frigate]

cool stuff

ngl, i think teachers influence a lot how much you like something

but ye

@solemn leaf what's your fave oreo flavour?

[solemn leaf]

exactly

[solemn leaf]

any

[random frigate]

oh god O__o

what a cannibal

[solemn leaf]

what

no

[random frigate]

youre an oreo

[solemn leaf]

oreo's are vegaf

[random frigate]

and you admit to devouring your kind

[solemn leaf]

ok well played

i hate eating oreos

[random frigate]

yeah yeah...

[solemn leaf]

seems fine

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[random frigate]

still committed a crime against your kind smdh

one time i ate like 48 oreos in one sitting

idk how old i was

[solemn leaf]

wow

that is insane

[random frigate]

yeah, kid me was something else

im surprised i didnt become obese after that

[supple turret]

Ei

https://tenor.com/view/zen-mystic-messenger-gif-22586744

[tardy rain]

ok

[random frigate]

ahaha, #divorcedparentaesthetic

[tribal aurora]

wtf are these gift, and why do they even exist

[shut ermine]

I'm feeling very sussy rn one could even say i might be the impostor

[solemn leaf]

yes

[random frigate]

ejected

[slim tree]

👀

[rough sapphire]

Hey

im tired of python

[tardy rain]

Hi tired of python

Why

[inland wolf]

wheres the "im dad"

[tardy rain]

It is implied

I already adopted a couple people

Everyone's dad

[clear plume]

You don't have to say "I'm dad" to know where the joke is going

[inland wolf]

k

[young shoal]

i disapprove

[round rose]

history repeats itself

[rough sapphire]

History does have a tendency to do that

[tardy rain]

Time is a flat circle

[round rose]

time has alzheimer's

[young shoal]

mobius strip

[sick nexus]

No, it's a 4 sided cube

[broken dew]

It’s Jeremy Bearimy

[solid elbow]

@young shoal your disapproval is over, for now.

[young shoal]

😔

it shall return

my disapproval

[solid elbow]

the previous name for this channel was a joke about psvm's disapproval

[random frigate]

its better if youre young

i wish i had started sooner

its like learning a language

it literally is one

you got this!

you will

i started like 2 months ago more or less

it doesnt matter how old you are

no prob! everyone here was a beginner at some point

[young shoal]

you should be able to put the server list on the other side

[lament tundra]

does anyone know what the current banner for the server represents?

also why is your profile pic barbie with a santa hat?

[young shoal]

uh it's not barbie

and it's christmas season

and #changelog

[lament tundra]

then who is it?

also thanks

[young shoal]

great name :O

[solid elbow]

Thanksgiving > Christmas 😄

[young shoal]

😔 🌨️ > 🦃

[wraith hound]

@misty dew did you get your otn

[misty dew]

I did

[wraith hound]

very good

[misty dew]

indeed

not quite the otn I was looking for, but it will do

[random frigate]

is thanksgiving really that big?

i heard thanksgiving is bigger in the US than Christmas

but that sounds kinda sus

[wraith hound]

no way

[young shoal]

it's a pretty big thing for some people i guess. my family doesn't really do anything

[solid elbow]

I get together with my family for both holidays, and do a big dinner for both.

[random frigate]

publica santa void main

nice

nice name

ive never celebrated thanksgiving, but american families just have like a dinner and thats it

but christmas is like 2 entire months

nove 1st is already christmas here

[solid elbow]

No it isn't?

[random frigate]

i had a mf tree lighting

TODAY

[young shoal]

it's christmastime 🎄

[solid elbow]

Like, advertising for Christmas is, I guess 😄

[random frigate]

in NOVEMBER

hehe, yes

and here Christmas is huge

my dad made me set the christmas tree on halloween

ON HALLOWEEN T__T

[young shoal]

lmfao

[random frigate]

so sad

[solid elbow]

Where's that?

[random frigate]

dominican republic

[solid elbow]

Ah, nice. I've been to a resort there, beautiful country...

[random frigate]

well, everyone likes the beaches

i am not a beach person though T__T

but its still nice

[thick musk]

christmas usually gets a longer holiday from school and stuff

[random frigate]

are you guys american?

[solid elbow]

I am, yeah.

[random frigate]

happy thanksgiving...soon!

i think its in 20 days or so

waiy more

[young shoal]

something like that

[wraith hound]

23 I think

[young shoal]

i agree. the beach is a scam perpetrated by Big Beach

[wraith hound]

For me in EDT, at least

[random frigate]

1,000%

[solid elbow]

Beaches are nice. So are mountains and lakes though. 🤷

[young shoal]

but like... the sand..the sun

🤮

[thick musk]

beaches on the east coast are way too crowded and hot

west coast best coast 👀

[random frigate]

i never like the beach

but the weather is nice here...if you like having ZERO SEASONS

[solid elbow]

West coast beaches have freezing water

[random frigate]

im so jealous of countries that get snow

LIKE WTF

[solid elbow]

Snow is great. I'm more of a cold weather person than hot weather

[thick musk]

but at least it's not water with 5 billion people in it 😔

[random frigate]

you can ice skate

[solid elbow]

And skiing is just about the one sport I have any skill at

[random frigate]

that beats any beach sport imo

kids here used to take this part of the palm tree (idk the name of it) and use it as a sleigh

in hills

i wanna go snow sleighinggg

it seems cool

[solid elbow]

Paragliding from the back of a boat

That's cool

[random frigate]

you can do that in a lake too though

probabluy

ive never been to a lake

like an actual ACTUAL lake

they seem cool???

idk

[solid elbow]

They're not that different from the ocean, just in the middle of things instead of at the edges 😄

[young shoal]

and no salt

[distant hazel]

aren't u!!! from east coast lol

[young shoal]

she's a defector

[random frigate]

yummy

[young shoal]

also, how does mashed-potatoes follow from petri 🤔

[thick musk]

p=p

[young shoal]

e_e

[distant hazel]

i used bs4 for the first time today

[thick musk]

technically from west coast and i spend a lot of time there

[distant hazel]

on snekbox of all places

[thick musk]

ok psvm

[distant hazel]

pub the person I was helping was a kpop stan

[young shoal]

wild

[distant hazel]

I didn't recognize the group tho

[young shoal]

is there supposed to be a fancy character at the end of your nick

[distant hazel]

OMG DOES IT NOT SHOW

[young shoal]

no

[wraith hound]

It shows for me

[young shoal]

!charinfo 🫐

[royal lake]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[young shoal]

oh interesting, when i copy it into discord, it shows. but not in your nick

[wraith hound]

I guess your emoji font doesn't support it

Since nicknames don't use twemoji

[young shoal]

😩

[distant hazel]

do you have any berry emoji

[young shoal]

🫐

[distant hazel]

yeah that's what I'm using lol

[young shoal]

bruh

[distant hazel]

boo

[digital oracle]

shows up different 👀

[distant hazel]

so whose fault is it, android's? pub's phone's?

[young shoal]

i'm on windows

[distant hazel]

just everyone imagine this one bc it's cuter

lol ok I'll pick a better one tmrw

[young shoal]

that is not cuter. that just looks weird because it's more realistic than it should be

[wraith hound]

Wait that's not there on Windows? I see that fine on win11

[wraith hound]

Nicknames use system emoji font, messages use twemoji

Weird, ik

[digital oracle]

weird indeed, emojis in messages on ios doesnt use twemoji either

[distant hazel]

what about now, strawberry 🍓

[wraith hound]

ooh that's nice

[young shoal]

still no for me

[distant hazel]

pub I'm gonna conclude you are the problem

[wraith hound]

I started liking system emojis ever since I got msft's fluent emojis

They're great

[distant hazel]

o @digital oracle showed me one (sorry I pinged the wrong person!)

[wraith hound]

Here are a bunch ^

[digital oracle]

oh yeah that :D

they 3D its so good

[distant hazel]

it's kind of grown on me

omg freaking clippy

is clippy still alive in msft products?

[wraith hound]

That one actually looks like this, it's not as 3D, but still great

[digital oracle]

I think they revived it or something

[wraith hound]

Hell yes

[sick nexus]

looks fine to me

I see a blueberry, a strawberry, and what I think is a blue snowflake in your name

[distant hazel]

lololol so sorry I accidentally picked your nick

me: hedy
discord: ok, katy

[digital oracle]

lmao

[distant hazel]

wait but like, do you know what clippy was back in the day

https://tenor.com/view/clip-windows-microsoft-agent-gif-11209432

he was the most annoying assistant in Microsoft Word and maybe some other stuff

[digital oracle]

:o back when

[distant hazel]

before you were alive probably 😂

[digital oracle]

lmao probably, looks like 2001

[distant hazel]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Assistant

[digital oracle]

I don't actually see much difference in the new logo apart from microsoft softening it a tiny bit

[distant hazel]

The feature drew a strongly negative response from many users.[5][6] Microsoft turned off the feature by default in Office XP, acknowledging its unpopularity in an ad campaign spoofing Clippit.[7] The feature was removed altogether in Office 2007 and Office 2008 for Mac, as it continued to draw criticism even from Microsoft employees.

i hated it

[shut ermine]

pepperidge farms remembers

yeah it was dumb but its dumb cute in a nostalgic way yanno

[distant hazel]

yeah kinda nostalgic

looks like it was briefly brought back into msft teams before they killed it again

[young shoal]

thank god

[solid elbow]

I knew about people too young to remember 9/11, but I'm not sure how to cope with people too young to remember Clippy

[young shoal]

😔

i was born after 9/11

wasn't clippy born before 9/11?

[solid elbow]

Yes, though he died after

[young shoal]

maybe he died in the war on terror

[solid elbow]

I mean, all things considered, missing out on 9/11 ain't a bad thing.

Missing out on Clippy probably isn't ether, though 😄

[thick musk]

wait but you're old

[young shoal]

i'm not that old 😢

also if i'm old, what is gobble

[solid elbow]

Older

[thick musk]

old

[young shoal]

old++

[thick musk]

everyone older than me is just old 😔

[distant hazel]

same

[thick musk]

shush, you're also old

[young shoal]

absolutely brutal

[opal atlas]

Thanks

[distant hazel]

somehow "older" sounds better than "old"

[young shoal]

yeah, one of my teachers used to say "older, not old"

[opal atlas]

Older is the new foreign buyers cool

[digital oracle]

2001... so they have to be at least 21 y/o. and apparently there are a lot of teens here

[young shoal]

no way you remember stuff when you're 1 tho, gotta be at least like 25ish

[solid elbow]

Yep. It's still weird to realize that an event that shaped our every day world so much is already so long ago, though. It doesn't feel like it.

[young shoal]

soon you'll be getting to the "get off my lawn" and the "back in my day" age

walked uphill both ways to the wfh job

[distant hazel]

@solid elbow are you actually still wfh tho?

[solid elbow]

Am I still working from home? Yes

[distant hazel]

lucky. don't miss the office?

[solid elbow]

A bit, but not enough to justify the commute

[young shoal]

honestly, freshmen these days are a bit cringe ngl

actually that's always been true. sophomores too now

[solid elbow]

I'm in a weird situation, though. My teammates are in San Francisco, London, and Madrid. I'm in Philadelphia, my office is in New Jersey. There's not much point in me going into the office, because the team members I work closest with wouldn't be there anyway.

[distant hazel]

let's hear it, why? @young shoal

[young shoal]

how long is the commute?

[distant hazel]

dude you commuted from Philly to NJ?

[young shoal]

yeah wait what i thought you worked near where you lived 😩

[solid elbow]

Philly's right on the NJ border

[distant hazel]

ok well to me NJ is that wee bit over the NY border I guess

[solid elbow]

But, yeah, I worked near Princeton and commuted from north Philly. It's about a 1 hour drive. 50 miles, but all interstates

[distant hazel]

yikes

[thick musk]

fake news

[solid elbow]

I've had shorter commutes that were worse.

[young shoal]

2 hours per day 😔

[distant hazel]

why worse

[solid elbow]

I'd take an hour on a highway over 30 minutes in bumper to bumper traffic

[young shoal]

for sure, probably cheaper gas too

[distant hazel]

hm short bumper to bumper commute or long but fast driving commute

[solid elbow]

Yeah. And I have a convertible I enjoy driving 😄

[distant hazel]

😂

[solid elbow]

FWIW I used to actually work on a team in NJ, but I did a lateral move within the company into a different position, with the understanding that I'd be permanently working from a different office. That was before covid, and at this point I'm likely going to be pregnant wfh, just making that official.

[young shoal]

what are you even talking about

permanent wfh?

[solid elbow]

I am looking forward to when business travel can resume, though. I do miss seeing my London and SF teammates.

[solid elbow]

Permanently working from home.

[young shoal]

ah, autocorrect got you there lol

[distant hazel]

pregnant wfh

congrats

[young shoal]

🎉

[solid elbow]

Lol

[distant hazel]

when's!!

[solid elbow]

Phones.

I'll just leave it 😄

[young shoal]

that's just how it is

[solid elbow]

(I'm almost always on mobile. Our moderator tools on mobile are not great.)

[distant hazel]

sure blame autocorrect typo on the moderation tools 🙄

[solid elbow]

!ban 568276116062863405 impugning my character

[distant hazel]

I suppose you guys will have buttons or other tools one day

dude

my ID should be protected at all costs

are you not aware of my accidental ban

[solid elbow]

I know we've had some, didn't realize you were one

[distant hazel]

right before i became helper

[young shoal]

!ban 568276116062863405 what accidental ban

[solid elbow]

Moderating is hard, yo.

[distant hazel]

i know (or can only imagine) thank you mods

[young shoal]

frfr on god ^

no kap

[digital oracle]

btw @distant hazel christmas pfp already?

[young shoal]

wdym already, she switched to it like a day late

[digital oracle]

wth

[distant hazel]

like 0.3 minutes after you did pub smh

[digital oracle]

imma go check my date time

[young shoal]

i was looking for the right hat + photo combo

[distant hazel]

i might change to a fall/thanksgiving one later

[dapper dew]

Yeah I chickened out, sorry about that

[distant hazel]

wow

[solid elbow]

I never want to change my PFP. GitHub generated a sad face for me, and I love it so much and upload it everywhere

[young shoal]

what if i put a santa hat on it

[distant hazel]

no we need to put tiny Santa hats on both of you

like tiaras

[digital oracle]

make it red and white

[young shoal]

although it's kinda too zoomed in for a hat

it'd have to just be the edges to make sense

[dapper dew]

I gotta do something for Thanksgiving, but I have my December pfp lined up

[distant hazel]

it's so zoomed in I didn't even know it was a face

[young shoal]

mine looks like some kind of animal

a goat i think

[solid elbow]

I think it's a woman with a hat

[young shoal]

😔 my github one 😔

[distant hazel]

smh calling hayan a goat

[young shoal]

greatest of all time 😤

[distant hazel]

true

[young shoal]

you're not caught up tho

[distant hazel]

she probably defeats everyone, falls in tormented love with a sworn enemy

the end

[young shoal]

lol

[solid elbow]

Nah bro I think that's a neckerchief

[young shoal]

hmmmm, maybe

also i've never seen you say "bro"

[solid elbow]

Only ever ironically 🙂

[distant hazel]

he said bruh the other day

[young shoal]

damn bruh

on god, no kap, frfr

[wraith hound]

wait how long ago was this

[solid elbow]

I found putting "bro" and "neckerchief" in the same sentence funny 🙂

[distant hazel]

😔 circa 2001

[young shoal]

it was

[distant hazel]

that's adorable

[digital oracle]

dawn is probably not old enough like me to remember

[wraith hound]

Yeah probably

[distant hazel]

wtf is no kap

[wraith hound]

Oh yeah, clippy's 6 years older then me ig

[young shoal]

cap (K A P) 🧢

[wraith hound]

Maybe 7

[digital oracle]

reminds me of scragly's pfp which is like a Eevee

[wraith hound]

It is an Eevee

[digital oracle]

vectorized :D

[distant hazel]

there's a really funny relevant video but.. it's in korean

[dapper dew]

Sentences to make you feel old

[solid elbow]

No, it's a profile pic.

[wraith hound]

you're suggesting that all profile pics aren't real? treason /s

[young shoal]

it's not a pipe vibes

also this, i made 1 commit, 1 pr, and 1 issue

[solid elbow]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images

[distant hazel]

is that 1 PR the one you did yesterday

or was that today

[young shoal]

yeah, and the commit, and the issue

[distant hazel]

lmfao

[wraith hound]

yesterday I think

[distant hazel]

don't you have stuff from code jam?

[wraith hound]

I remember looking at it after I woke up

[young shoal]

it's in november, so it's just this stuff

[mild abyss]

she is a beast and she strong

and a waifu

[opal atlas]

I need treatment maybe

[rugged echo]

!otn a no-kap-frfr

[solemn leaf]

for real for real?

fr

[silver birch]

no for real for false 😤

[paper sequoia]

No for false, for true

[silver birch]

yes for all that passes through this plane of reality, and is neither real or true or false or good

[quartz shale]

💯

[viscid hemlock]

Congrats @misty dew, you played yourself

[misty dew]

I have indeed

but at least I got my otn

[velvet sun]

@eager cliff do you have a whole plugin setup for vim i'm currently too much of a scrub to figure out how to get much of anything working except nerdtree

[eager cliff]

i have two plugins, and two themes. that is it.

one is intellisense, the other is a thing to highlight the text i yank.

and i am thinking of ditching the intellisense.

[velvet sun]

oooo gotcha. themes are colors right? or is that something else

[eager cliff]

yes

[velvet sun]

which ones do you use? i've been using ron

[eager cliff]

i use one called Disco.

it is to make Vim match my Xterm colors.

[dapper dew]

Maybe not the best but this is my .vimrc

[velvet sun]

wait does that set backspace thing make my computer stop yelling at me when i try to backspace things sometimes

[dapper dew]

The last "PEP8" thing? It should let you backspace to the right indent level

[velvet sun]

nice 😎 thanks

[uneven pine]

Why are we converting an innocent soul to vim

[velvet sun]

i already use vim i'm just too much of a scrub to get any plug ins working lol

[uneven pine]

Oh alright

Fair enough carry on

[dapper dew]

I generally steer people to VS Code first

[velvet sun]

wait while we're talking about vim does anyone know how to get completions from all files in the same directory even if they're not opened in a buffer

like with ctrl+n and ctrl+p

i think if it's possible it has something to do with set complete but i can't figure it out

[versed saffron]

Im on kubuntu and just downloaded 3.10, where should I be extracting the .tar and how do I compile it?

or do I not need to

[odd sluice]

extract it where u want to store the python executable

then ./configure and then make

then you can symlink stuff

like: ln -s python /usr/bin/python3.10

then restart ur shell

python3.10 should invoke python3.10

[sick nexus]

you don't need to restart the shell

[odd sluice]

i mean ¯_(ツ)_/¯

also if u want

u can make python3.10 ur primary python invoked on shell

you can alias it by adding alias python3=python3.10

[latent scaffold]

I would advise that you not do this

pick the sane option of using pyenv \😩

[uneven pine]

In the future on Ubuntu based systems I recommend using the deadsnakes ppa

Less hassle

[versed saffron]

I might just try using that

Or apt actually

Didn’t think about that for some reason

[uneven pine]

Deadsnakes ppa is apt lol

[young shoal]

pyenv

[versed saffron]

Oh cool

[sterile grail]

I wish I was in Northern US right now

Everyone’s seeing auroras up there (northern lights

meanwhile I’m stuck where I am with light pollution

[sick nexus]

bruh you're literally in it

[somber oriole]

Happy diwali to all

[odd sluice]

happy diwali

[mild abyss]

https://classicprogrammerpaintings.com/post/142321815809/hieronymus-bosch-a-visual-guide-to-the-scala hmmm

[wicked flame]

This is the type of response Open AI's GPT-3 would give.

[rough sapphire]

Should I boost this server?

[wicked flame]

YES!

[odd sluice]

i mean u can do it if u want to show ur appreciation but mostly it wont really be useful

because it has such a huge number of boosts already

it has 3 times the amount needed for the final level

[rough sapphire]

Hello

Cannonacly nitro is the souls of children

I'm dying

[solemn leaf]

@rough sapphire ahoy!

nice comeback

[heavy pawn]

https://i.imgur.com/CjPRRXT.mp4

[rough sapphire]

Why did you post this?

[last mantle]

damn

[rough sapphire]

.topic

[median dome]

**If you had $100 bill in your Easter Basket, what would you do with it?**

Suggest more topics here!

[rough sapphire]

Die from anxiety

[edgy crest]

ants?

[rough sapphire]

no , beetles

[edgy crest]

looks like ACO without the pheromones

[heavy pawn]

Firing particles with collisions to solve mazes 🤣

[edgy crest]

lol

[rough sapphire]

24 kg

[woeful cipher]

Happy Diwali to all my indian folks here and those who celebrate it!

[rough sapphire]

I can't believe humans exist , they seem so ....

./

bruh

\

.

\ . \

tf

[heavy pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-side-eye-confused-scared-gif-22547418

[rough sapphire]

Omg so good 0.00000000000% sarcasm

[wicked flame]

Is that what that was?

[heavy pawn]

Yeah 🤣

[wicked flame]

it's how sperm finds the egg.

[latent scaffold]

uh

[wicked flame]

Why did you change your name?

[latent scaffold]

It's no longer Halloween

I should change my pfp but I've not found anything that I want to change it to

[wicked flame]

I can't unsee it.

[latent scaffold]

lol

[mild abyss]

hmm no

but sure

[wicked flame]

no?

[rough sapphire]

A portrait of me

[mild abyss]

no

[rough sapphire]

Are byou inhalable?

[buoyant gust]

Hi

[wicked flame]

oh . . .

[rough sapphire]

lied

[wicked flame]

The Cake?

[rough sapphire]

no the lemon god of the gurkan lands

[wicked flame]

does not compute

[rough sapphire]

You don't know the gurkan lands?

[wicked flame]

Pics or it didn't happen.

[rough sapphire]

https://gurkult.com/

[rough sapphire]

Did you make it to the gurkan lands?

[wicked flame]

LMFAO, Cucumber Propaganda! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xa7Dp3-eYA

[rough sapphire]

Do you know of the cat club?

.catify

[median dome]

Your catified nickname is: TheHive | ᕂᘏᗢ

Your catified nickname is: TheHive | ᕂᘏᗢ | ᓇᘏᗢ

Your catified nickname is: TheHive | ᕂᘏᗢ | ᓇᘏᗢ | ᕦᘏᗢ

Your catified nickname is: TheHive | ᕂᘏᗢ | ᓇᘏᗢ | ᕦᘏᗢ | ᓇᘏᗢ

NEGATORY.

Your display name is too long to be catified! Please change it to be under 26 characters.

[rough sapphire]

.topic topic

[median dome]

**What is better: Milk, Dark or White chocolate?**

Suggest more topics here!

[rough sapphire]

green shrek choco

[dapper dew]

This isn't #sir-lancebot-playground

[rough sapphire]

I know

[dapper dew]

Do you though?

[rough sapphire]

yes

[dapper dew]

Then why all of the spam?

Doesn't make sense

[rough sapphire]

That was from hours ago

[rough sapphire]

tis the only recent thing

[tardy rain]

spam is spam

[rough sapphire]

Why do I hate you?

[tardy rain]

cause im always right

[rough sapphire]

Oh wow this man allway got A in everything why don't you become president?

[tardy rain]

politics is boring

[rough sapphire]

Like you

[tardy rain]

im not the one spamming a channel with commands

[rough sapphire]

How does that make me boring?

[tardy rain]

doesnt make you interesting, for sure

[rough sapphire]

ok mario

Why do you dislike me?

[honest spade]

do any of you deal with unhappiness in life

disappointment in yourself, and your life

thinking you could have had a better life

[rough sapphire]

No

[dapper dew]

Sure, its part of the human experience. Plus 100% happiness and joy is not a realistic goal

[rough sapphire]

exactly

[honest spade]

i'd feel like i have 99% depression

Sometimes i dunno who am i

[dapper dew]

If you do feel that way, I would recommend seeing a specialist. I am not an expert in human psychology and we are complex beings. Plus the brain is an organ and can become sick, but its treatable

[honest spade]

money....

poor

dont want to involve parents also

they'll give me that shit talk you're fine what the fuck bro

[dapper dew]

Try to identify the sources, and if you are over-thinking / dwelling / fixating on them

[rough sapphire]

That's when you use murder

[honest spade]

not to that point

though it would be nice killing some schoolmates i suppose

killing is a great feeling

to be in control of someone

[rough sapphire]

Then they'll for sure let you go to a specialist

[honest spade]

quite agree

but too agressive

i'd take a calm route

[tardy rain]

it do be kinda cringe in here right this moment

[rough sapphire]

git rm mariosis

Did it work?

[rough sapphire]

How old are ye?

[tardy rain]

old enough to party

[dapper dew]

Yeah I am seeing myself out. 'Tis too much

[tardy rain]

maybe its time to ping a mod to step in and clean up a bit

[rough sapphire]

Wym by party?

[honest spade]

go to a night club presumably

[tardy rain]

if you know you know

[rough sapphire]

oh strip club? why didn't youy say so?

[rough sapphire]

chilidog

[terse heron]

!mute 745674084863574087 7d I have no clue what made you think that suggesting murder as the solution to someone's depression is appropriate here. You should also be keeping chat SFW, as per our #rules and #code-of-conduct.

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @rough sapphire until <t:1636638641:f> (6 days and 23 hours).

[terse heron]

!warn 404929584400695307 I get that depression can be hard, but this isn't the place to be talking about killing people (schoolmates/parents/anyone). Please don't do this again.

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @honest spade.

[rough sapphire]

What's happening

[terse heron]

Let's move on please

[tardy rain]

yes

[rough sapphire]

Alrighty

.topic

[median dome]

**What's your favourite kind of soup?**

Suggest more topics here!

[tardy rain]

so anyway, im writing a script to dump a week's worth of git commits for my 1on1s every friday

[velvet sun]

beautiful soup 4

[tardy rain]

do i use rich or do i dump into html

[rough sapphire]

Duck

[rough sapphire]

Rich

[honest star]

I'd go with rich

[shut ermine]

the best soup is orange juice

[tardy rain]

rich definitely is nice, been rewriting tree in it

[rough sapphire]

Morning kat

[acoustic fern]

I like cream of tomato soup 🙂

[honest star]

mooorning

[clear plume]

Dumb question, but French onion soup counts as a soup right?

[shut ermine]

no but orange juice does gg

[rough sapphire]

Yes

[acoustic moss]

tea is leaf soup

[shut ermine]

i like tea

its a good soup

[acoustic moss]

shoep

[scarlet wind]

wtf

[shut ermine]

is toilet water a soup

[scarlet wind]

bruh

[acoustic moss]

n- maybe

[shut ermine]

forbidden soup

[scarlet wind]

iron male > sigma male

?

[shut ermine]

yes its basic biology

[scarlet wind]

debatable

[shut ermine]

is this traditional briish food?

oh god the psyllium is kicking in

[edgy crest]

that will then conclude that vsauce ate a donut dipped in soup

[clear plume]

TMI starcy

[shut ermine]

cope

[rough sapphire]

I prefer beanut butter, honestly

[dire siren]

i prefer beanut putter more

but beanut butter is fine

[honest star]

banned

[narrow pecan]

I don’t have words

[narrow pecan]

😰

[low chasm]

D:

[acoustic moss]

wtf

[tardy rain]

need help coming up with a name for a reporting script

[acoustic moss]

repyrter

[graceful basin]

reporting.py

[tardy rain]

based

might actually go the JS way and start naming all my projects <project>.py

[graceful basin]

names should be self documenting

[narrow pecan]

Are you a honorary senior expert software developer or something? I’ve heard that some legendary developers know how to easily name things properly, but I thought it was just a myth

[dire siren]

.py

[graceful basin]

yes

[tardy rain]

i say its a reporting script but i actually was talking about the package name

[dire siren]

names are for humans, transform to robot

[graceful basin]

git_cli_reports

[tardy rain]

ah youre no fun, wheres the funny pun in the name

[narrow pecan]

Be careful with who you show your true powers. Some people might get obsessed and start the Lakcult

[dire siren]

how'bout Lakult

[acoustic moss]

im in

[graceful basin]

we worship lactose

[narrow pecan]

Was originally thinking that, but it’s a bit unclear. Maybe that’s fine though

Let’s call it Lakult yeah

[odd sluice]

i used to drink that long ago

[scarlet wind]

bruh

y->l

[odd sluice]

till a friend scared me away by saying it's made of poo

[dire siren]

it is tho

[narrow pecan]

It had to be done

[odd sluice]

i mean they're not wrong you can make it out of poop

[dire siren]

time to make gurkshin impact

but nvm i dont have time

i only hav time to sleep

[narrow pecan]

Hhaha please do

[scarlet wind]

never

[narrow pecan]

Lies aren’t you a programmer?

[scarlet wind]

no waifus

[dire siren]

nah i am not

[scarlet wind]

guessed it with that line

[narrow pecan]

Not even in your freetime?

[scarlet wind]

u have time to sleep? what is sleep?

[dire siren]

husbando then

[scarlet wind]

no

[narrow pecan]

Only Gurkfus

[scarlet wind]

gurkfuse

[dire siren]

idk, i like sleeping more recently

[scarlet wind]

use gurks as fuse

[narrow pecan]

Then you are not a true developer. You must conform to the norms of you ever wish to rejoin.

/s aside, that’s actually nice. Sleep is really important

[dire siren]

i develop better sleeping performance

[scarlet wind]

b..bu..but sleep for the weak right?

[dire siren]

time.sleep: 😰

[odd sluice]

you underclocked ur circadian cycle to perform better

[narrow pecan]

Big bren

[opaque fern]

Hey, question about Dropbox.
Do you know if it's possible to share an invite link so that users can also eddit the contents.
I only see links with "view only" access.

[shut ermine]

im week 😔

[edgy crest]

im month 😔

[hidden pebble]

Github co pilot is very cool

[latent scaffold]

Yes

[tardy rain]

No

[clear plume]

It's cool till you learn about the licensing issues

[latent scaffold]

👀esplain?

[clear plume]

Copilot doesn't check the licenses of the code they're using, and some licenses don't allow use of the code without using that same specific license, so it can be an issue

[polar vigil]

Yeah I just got in today

it automates some things but nothing cool yet

it's more like boilerplate stuff

[wicked flame]

Seems like licensing software is synonymous with trademarking a quote. Like Coca Cola and other Namebrand products. IMO it's just an idiotic way of extorting money out of people.

[sick nexus]

Never heard of the GPL then I assume, or the unlicense?

Licensing is copyright related. A license is essentially the legal permission to own or possess or use something in a certain way.

How you license code you create, determines how people are allowed to benefit from it.

[wicked flame]

That's why I said it was idiotic because there's so many ways to get around those licenses it's almost comical.

[sick nexus]

lolwut

[wraith hound]

Well no duh, you can just copy paste the code. The whole point of the license is that legally, if you violate it, you can be sued or whatever.

[sick nexus]

wtf are you even talking about bro, you open up with "It's just a way to extort money out of people!" then follow up with "you can evade licenses!"

[shut ermine]

i swear i've never copied anything illegally in my life 🥺

[sick nexus]

Which doesn't even touch on the fact that the GPLs were created specifically to grant legal recourse against people trying to extort money out of people

[wicked flame]

I've said too much.

[sick nexus]

"Too much" being anything, since you've clearly never read the GPL?

I usually go with the unlicense cause I like simplicity.

[wicked flame]

I know about GPL, CC, CC-BY . . . Yes Open Source is a type of license.

[shut ermine]

mmm this is getting hostile 👀

[sick nexus]

Open Source is a type of license

I don't think I can continue this, I'm gonna come out with either brain damage or a mute

bye

[wraith hound]

Open source ain't a license, it just means that the source is... well, open

There are various open source licenses, but it isn't a license in and of itself

[wicked flame]

I was responding to the confusion directly. It worked.

[wraith hound]

Uhh whatt?

[sick nexus]

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