ot1-perplexing-regexing

[spare lance]

ah yes the electron density graph for d orbitals (the heck i dont wanna see it in the first week but looks sweet)

[solid pollen]

Haha, yep

We also had, uhh, did he upload it yet

[odd sluice]

i only work with p and s 👀

what are d thingies

i think ive heard of em

[spare lance]

life is better as long as you are limited to those

[solid pollen]

He didn't, too bad

[odd sluice]

ive only done them in configuration

[solid pollen]

We had a two lines formula too, along with that graph

[spare lance]

alright i hate univ already xD

[solid pollen]

Basically you are going to learn this is all a lie and you gotta start back from scratch lol

[spare lance]

no way i wanna have that formula memorized

[odd sluice]

0_0

[solid pollen]

Thank god we don't even have to work with that formula

[spare lance]

sheesh dont spoil it for him... let him be amused in 11th

[solid pollen]

They aren't that crazy

That's a year three thing

[odd sluice]

nah dont worry i learnt that stuff
till MOT i know, then i stopped
mostly because i did not understand a thing

even now im like wtf did i read

i probably need to read it again

or ill probably fail any exam

[spare lance]

i dont think u need anything more than MOT till like 12th mid

[odd sluice]

MOT == pain

[solid pollen]

Funny looking formulas that don't make any sense, volume 1

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/488104216678760469/885903328620449842/407110650217627658.png

[spare lance]

its fun to draw that stuff lol

[solid pollen]

I'm not sure if it is actually supposed to be an integral but a sum

But what do I know

[spare lance]

this makes sense smh

[odd sluice]

how do you put an equal to in an integration

or are those seperate

[solid pollen]

[spare lance]

its formatting issue lol.. basically the limits

[solid pollen]

Plus the latex renderer kinda died on it

It swear it works well on my computer

[spare lance]

basically isnt this sum of all probability of finding the electron is 1 kinda shit?

[solid pollen]

Yeah

That's my understanding

But I have no idea why that is the integration symbol

Surely it should be sum, right ?

[spare lance]

lol heck if i knew

i wonder what d(tau) is for

assuming it is tau

[odd sluice]

i think its torque

[solid pollen]

[spare lance]

i think ill just leave akarys to his misery and suffer with organic chem instead

[odd sluice]

oof how is organic chem

[solid pollen]

Oh god

Please lemme go back to quantum physics

Apparently it isn't needed during the first two years

[odd sluice]

is quantum physics better than quantum chem

[solid pollen]

And since I'll probably choose electronics or informatics in year three I shouldn't ever do organic again

[spare lance]

organic chem is a fun hell

i mean its still hell

but its fun

[tardy rain]

Organic chemistry was probably the most fun i've had in school

Didnt get to the complex stuff, just a level tier

[gritty zinc]

I step out of offtopic for a few hours and you're doing quantum physics there 👀

[rough sapphire]

i hate it

1 reaction and 10 exception
¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rough sapphire]

in physics u get answer for everything unlike chem where u just have to mug up
so phy world be more better

would*

[solid pollen]

How the heck is that any fun? You learn how to draw a stupid molecule by heart to simply use a tool to generate that when you start working, unless you are working in organic research

[solid pollen]

I start university for a few hours and we're doing quantum physics there 👀

[dapper dew]

But you get real good at drawing hexagons \s

[solid pollen]

I an feel you dude

[dapper dew]

I'm glad I didn't have to take organic chemistry, just needed to touch on combustion

[solid pollen]

Hahaha, you do become a pro hexagon draw... person

Did you take PowerPoint though

[dapper dew]

Hexa-draw-er ?

[dapper dew]

Technically not a class that was taught

[solid pollen]

Hah

We do have some excel classes here

And vba because we like pain

[dapper dew]

Oh shit. No. Run.

I had numerical computations with VBA

[gritty zinc]

haha, I had two periods of quantum field theory today

[solid pollen]

Sounds fun >.<

[floral apex]

Hmm Visual Basic

I've never touched that language yet

[spare lance]

dont ask me 🤷‍♂️

[last mantle]

VB not too bad iirc

[dire siren]

oh no the code jam channel got deleted and i'm back to 18k messages

[latent scaffold]

lmao

we're nons

[inland wolf]

lol

[solemn leaf]

lmfao

[carmine kindle]

hello

[dire siren]

bye

[edgy crest]

hm

[inland wolf]

^

[terse heron]

@thorn yacht let's not be posting that in this server please

[rough sapphire]

hi guys

[olive remnant]

uWu

[gritty zinc]

(double) Rand.Value < 0.300000011920929 ? QualityCategory.Normal :

wtf is this constant

hmm, actually this is in decompiled sources and it's a double, so it's probably just the closest to 0.3 a double can represent

[harsh tundra]

!e print(0.1+0.2)

[royal lake]

@harsh tundra :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

0.30000000000000004

[gritty zinc]

!e

import numpy as np
print(float(np.float32(0.3)))

[royal lake]

@gritty zinc :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

0.30000001192092896

[harsh tundra]

This is better

[gritty zinc]

ah, there it is.... actually no, it's still slightly wrong lol

[acoustic moss]

no its right

just rounded

[gritty zinc]

why the hell did the decompiler round it then

[acoustic moss]

python floats are float64s?

[gritty zinc]

they are

[acoustic moss]

hmm

[tribal aurora]

why is that lol

[gritty zinc]

actually wait a minute

!e

import numpy as np
print(np.float32(0.3))

[royal lake]

@gritty zinc :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

0.3

[acoustic moss]

bruh

[gritty zinc]

no, it's definitely due to the float precision

[tribal aurora]

:/

[gritty zinc]

weird decompiler shenanigans, I guess

[tribal aurora]

like, what

[gritty zinc]

Mathf.Clamp((double) num >= 0.100000001490116 ? ((double) num >= 0.200000002980232 ?

here's more

[tribal aurora]

im out

this kinda reminds me of unity's c#

[gritty zinc]

It is C#.

[tribal aurora]

eh

[gritty zinc]

also, wtf is this line

return (QualityCategory) Mathf.Clamp((double) num >= 0.100000001490116 ? ((double) num >= 0.200000002980232 ? itemQuality : itemQuality + 1) : itemQuality - 1, 0, 4);

[acoustic moss]

what are you decompiling 👀

[gritty zinc]

nest a ternary in a clamp, what a wonderful idea

[gritty zinc]

Rimworld. Looking into modding.

[tribal aurora]

lol

[acoustic moss]

O

[gritty zinc]

StaticQualityPlus, a mod I'm using, doesn't support something I want, and also I read its source code and my braincells leaked through my ears

so I want to make my own version, because oh boy do I feel even I can do better

if you want to see what I mean, behold:

[acoustic moss]

idk enough c# to spot bad stuff

maybe

[gritty zinc]

Oh trust me, you do

[acoustic moss]

WTF

[gritty zinc]

unless you think three 20-case switches is a good idea

[acoustic moss]

lmaooo this is great

[gritty zinc]

This isn't, like, a beginner's mod by the way. This has been developed for years over multiple versions.

Though I suspect this part was written many years ago and just never rewritten to be less insane

[acoustic moss]

wait i thought you didn't need break in switch in c#

[gritty zinc]

I think you do, though for ints the compiler is probably smart enough to break either way

what you definitely can do, though, is have a single block for several cases

instead of copy-pasting them

and that's not even considering that this could have not been a switch at all, with perhaps some math.

[acoustic moss]

yeah

[tender smelt]

eh, the compiler will optimize it

actually, that's the new revolution

it's not "AI will take over", it's "compilers will optimize everything"

[gritty zinc]

This is the excuse for writing readable code that doesn't seem performant, not the opposite! 😛

[graceful basin]

just wait for AI compilers

[tender smelt]

which might be the same thing, now that i think about it

just wait, they'll write lapack in python next

[gritty zinc]

oh god

[graceful basin]

we already use AI for rendering, compilers are a pretty big leap, but a possibility nontheless

[gritty zinc]

this is from the game's source code:

     switch (relevantSkillLevel)
      {
        case 0:
          centerX += 0.7f;
          break;
        case 1:
          centerX += 1.1f;
          break;
        case 2:
          centerX += 1.5f;
          break;
        case 3:
          centerX += 1.8f;
          break;
      ...

they aren't all the same, but this still count have used some math

or, like, an array

this is decompiled, strictly speaking, so I wonder if this is the compiler optimizing it from something better

Oh. I looked at the source and realised the thing I'm trying to do should already actually work

unless SQPlus does something truly weird

let's do more testing, maybe I won't need a custom mod after all

[wise schooner]

how's this color palette ?

[uneven pine]

Eye piercing

The green is way too bright

[harsh tundra]

Background is also too saturated imo

[tender smelt]

the blue on blue is horrible

[acoustic moss]

definitely made an impression

just not a great one

[odd sluice]

lmao

[edgy crest]

those icons remind me of windows

[last mantle]

ye its fluent design

the old one

[last mantle]

which framework?

[wise schooner]

just deciding theme for now, will probably use react

[last mantle]

fluent UI on the web?

[wise schooner]

yeah

[last mantle]

interesting

i have never seen that

[harsh tundra]

Can I save those two messages as reaction image? XD

[wise schooner]

same which is why i want to do it lol

[last mantle]

heh

might as well use the new fluent design

[wise schooner]

is it available?

[last mantle]

for flutter and .NET, yes

[acoustic moss]

[wise schooner]

does this use the new one?

[last mantle]

i can't really say from that pic

[wise schooner]

i could just use the fluent "dark" color palette but it feels too normie lol

[last mantle]

i wish frameworks could adopt the mica design thing

[inland wolf]

whats that

[last mantle]

acrylic was w10

mica is w11

[inland wolf]

oh ok

[last mantle]

its basically acrylic but takes the background as your desktop wallpaper

i guess

[inland wolf]

yes

[last mantle]

i did make a w11 app but gave up on it lol

[wise schooner]

mfw

[last mantle]

disabled?

[wise schooner]

yeah

[low chasm]

hm

that looks better than the blue

[last mantle]

dark nordish theme

i like it

[spare lance]

amazing i love it

[inland wolf]

looks epic

but these checkbox ticks are too thin

[wise schooner]

Yeah but that's just fluent design

[wraith hound]

way too bright

[wraith hound]

this is nice

[inland wolf]

true

[wooden iron]

Hii guys....

I'm new to python as well as in this server

can anyone tell me how can I learn python

🥲

[broken dew]

!resources

[royal lake]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

https://pythondiscord.com/resources

[rough sapphire]

Same bro

[hard adder]

macOS I hate

[lucid raptor]

But why? 😄

[frail badge]

i use macos and i hate it, thank you very much

[rough sapphire]

Why does everyone hate macOS?

[stable garnet]

I don't

[rough sapphire]

I use windows and have never tried mac

[stable garnet]

me too. maybe that's why

we need to use one to hate it

[frail badge]

its meh

i use mac

[rough sapphire]

I think so

[frail badge]

barely used windows

well if u never used mac i think its rather unfair of u to hate it

[stable garnet]

What's meh about it

[rough sapphire]

Windows is great

What language should I use to code a game?

[frail badge]

uhh

C++, C#?

[stable garnet]

that's a big question

[frail badge]

depends

Unity's cool

so is unreal

but C++ is also good as well

[stable garnet]

you can make a 2d game in python if you want

[frail badge]

yea, using Pygame, arcade, etc.

[stable garnet]

C++ is fastest for games apparently

for triple A

[frail badge]

I think infinimata made a game using arcade and they have a suggestion probably so if you see them online then ask them (?)

[stable garnet]

Eve online was made in python

[rough sapphire]

I'm looking to make a first person shooter of sorts

[stable garnet]

then I guess C++

or an engine that already exists

like unreal engine like pip mentioned

[rough sapphire]

For sure

[stable garnet]

There is this really good youtube tutorial about it

do you want me to dm it to you?

[rough sapphire]

Yes sir

Too many languages to choose from

[uneven pine]

UE4 will use Visual scripting called Blueprint

and C++ for more advanced stuff when you need it

Unity3D is another good choice, that will use C#

you can also use the Godot engine, which has the (dis)advantage of being free/open source

it also offers a visual scripting interface, but their main language is GDScript which is a "Chinese knockoff python"

[uneven pine]

all viable options for ready-use engines

[rough sapphire]

Thankyou

[rough sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-touch-it-programmer-walking-cow-coding-gif-17252607

I had too

[latent scaffold]

um

[dire siren]

um

[rough sapphire]

hehe

[rough sapphire]

I had too do that

[rough sapphire]

Sir you did indeed rick roll me

[latent scaffold]

idk what you're talking about :)

[rough sapphire]

I think you do

[latent scaffold]

do I?

[rough sapphire]

Teach me senpai

[dire siren]

bruh why is that a rickroll, he's just saying "um" lol

[rough sapphire]

Look on his site

[latent scaffold]

there's nothing on my site

[rough sapphire]

Indeed

[dire siren]

then how is he rickrolling you lol

[rough sapphire]

Login to his site in his bio

[dire siren]

nothing is wrong :))

[rough sapphire]

hehe

[latent scaffold]

it's the register page that has it

[rough sapphire]

Can you see my I.P adress?

[latent scaffold]

probably

[dire siren]

of course

[latent scaffold]

but I don't care enough to

[dire siren]

every site you are on can log your ip lol

[latent scaffold]

Apache has a whole log of every single request that I get

[rough sapphire]

Were do I live?

[dire siren]

i'm not the server owner

[rough sapphire]

Okie

[latent scaffold]

I own the server

or... i'm renting it

[rough sapphire]

I forgot where I live

[latent scaffold]

from Azure

[acoustic moss]

cypheriel

[latent scaffold]

yes

[acoustic moss]

i cant find a rickroll

[latent scaffold]

you must register

[acoustic moss]

im trying to find the rickroll

i dont think this is how its supposed to work

[latent scaffold]

what do you are mean

[dire siren]

you login

[acoustic moss]

i am be are mean

[latent scaffold]

the register button is on the login page

[dire siren]

not register :))

[acoustic moss]

bruh

oh ok i got rickrolled now

[dire siren]

here: https://cypheriel.codes/login

[frail badge]

whoa you have a website

[acoustic moss]

good

[frail badge]

LOL

[latent scaffold]

exposed me

[frail badge]

embed

[latent scaffold]

https://cypheriel.codes/register

[frail badge]

the animation looks cool

[dire siren]

https://cypheriel.codes/about

lol

i'll probably make one later if i have the time to

[latent scaffold]

it's fun

[dire siren]

and i dont need to handle the server if i use github pages

[rough sapphire]

Idk how to even code i don't have anyone to teach

[dire siren]

i just need to build the frontend :))

[latent scaffold]

https://cypheriel.codes/embed?title=gwa_gwa&desc=owa_owa&color=FF0000

[latent scaffold]

yeah but you don't get fun backend stuff \😩

[dire siren]

https://cypheriel.codes/robots.txt

[dire siren]

true

[rough sapphire]

Gtg guys seeya

[latent scaffold]

the little splash text is random btw

whenever you get a 404, the embed will show a little "funny" line

https://cypheriel.codes/funny_textt

the mouse did it

[rough sapphire]

I just downloaded Python 3.9 and I'm kinda wondering,Now what?

[frail badge]

what

[frail badge]

print hello world ;D

[rough sapphire]

I'm laughing on the inside

[frail badge]

then laugh on the outside

spread the laughter

tho not too much

its hard to stop laughing once you start

[rough sapphire]

Harharhar

For real though can someone tech me to code?

[dire siren]

!resources

[royal lake]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

https://pythondiscord.com/resources

[spare lance]

This otn was born in #esoteric-python or #internals-and-peps 👀

[spare lance]

I meant it as a joke but sure lol

[clear acorn]

[floral apex]

oh

[last mantle]

whats ELF

[edgy crest]

the executable file format or smth

on linux

[odd sluice]

eff =/= elf

there's a letter difference

[edgy crest]

?

mate

that was pure coincidence lolz

[odd sluice]

hmmm okay

[edgy crest]

file Minesweeper/build/minesweeper
Minesweeper/build/minesweeper: ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable...```

yeah pretty sure it means this

[dire siren]

windows terminal vs vscode terminal vs cmd prompt vs powershell

in comparing speed

well i'm betting cmd prompt will be faster because it communicate with winapi directly iirc

[spare lance]

cmd prompt or powershell i presume..
depends on the usage

[dire siren]

hmmmmmmm

[spare lance]

@rough sapphire ah well so uh I was thinking of creating an array like
[[x,x], [x,x], [x,x],... ]
(where x is your block)
And then insert "#" at end of each list (for bottom and at first position for top)
(this can be moderated for specific gravity direction too)
So basically a vertical*horizontal array
And then while giving the output you can fill in the spaces btw each thing instead of making a horizontal*vertical array and switching out entire rows

[rough sapphire]

this is hard to grasp. doesnt mean its not good though

hmm so i think what your trying to say is only look at a portion of the grid enough cells below the sand blocks for them to move their maximum distance

[spare lance]

Well basically I mean that what you effectively do is

#
#
x
x
. 
. 
. 
. 
x
x
#
#
``` you make this only the parts of non dots in a column than a row 
And then join those end with something like 
`top + ["#"]*(total-(len(top+bottom))) + bottom`

[rough sapphire]

sorry what do the hashes represent and what do the dots represent?

[spare lance]

Hashes are the well whatever is your air or background or null block
And dots are the same thing (but you just don't have to include them. In your. Top or bottom list)

[rough sapphire]

ah i see

[spare lance]

!e ```py
top = [["#", "#", "x", "x"]]*10
bottom = list(map((lambda z:z[::-1]), top))
Board = list (i+["#"]*6+j for i,j in zip(top, bottom))
Board = list(zip(*Board))
print("\n".join(map("".join, Board)))

[rough sapphire]

impresive you whipped this up so quickly. ive only just now understood how to use zip

[spare lance]

I also learnt to use zip recently lol

[rough sapphire]

what about map what does that do?

ah it just takes a list of inputs and spits out outputs it seems

into another list

or sequence

[spare lance]

Map basically iterates through an iterable and passes the object as an argument to the given function

!d map

[royal lake]

map

map(function, iterable, ...)```
Return an iterator that applies *function* to every item of *iterable*, yielding the results. If additional *iterable* arguments are passed, *function* must take that many arguments and is applied to the items from all iterables in parallel. With multiple iterables, the iterator stops when the shortest iterable is exhausted. For cases where the function inputs are already arranged into argument tuples, see [`itertools.starmap()`](https://docs.python.org/3.10/library/itertools.html#itertools.starmap "itertools.starmap").

Similar names: 2to3fixer.map

[rough sapphire]

ah yeilding so thats why you needed to cast it to list

[spare lance]

Yup lol

[rough sapphire]

id be happy to look over your code if you were to make a small demo

im just having a hard time understanding

[spare lance]

Guess I'll do that later bit busy today afternoon lol

[rough sapphire]

nice. whenever you can.

[graceful basin]

Windows terminal is GPU rendered, so maybe that

[dire siren]

o

thanks

[odd sluice]

where tf

was the nsfw

[tribal aurora]

why

[dire siren]

time to move to #ot1-perplexing-regexing bois

[tribal aurora]

@clever turtle what were u talking about

[dire siren]

i'm done with doing adb connect 127.0.0.1:port continuously. should i write a bash script that bruteforce that command from 30000 port to 40000

or will i get rate limited, is that a thing on localhost

[graceful basin]

yeah, that should be fine

though can't you automate finding the port some way

if it's on localhost you could probably just check which port sth is listening on

[dire siren]

probably idk

[turbid hinge]

I feel much better. I figured out thermald was not working on my laptop, so no wonder my laptop was hot, fixed it and the fans are super quiet now 😄

[simple sand]

Mom: "What did you learn at school today?"
Son: "Apparently not enough"
Mom: "Why?"
Son: "Well, I have to go back tomorrow"

this one good

[inland wolf]

lol

[rough sapphire]

I have a acer nitro and I honestly think it's one of the best budget laptop for coding

[turbid hinge]

Mine broke 😦

[rough sapphire]

Do you know how to fix it?

[wraith hound]

Eyy

I suggested this otn

[tender smelt]

thanks i hate it

[odd sluice]

[rough sapphire]

Eek

[turbid hinge]

i didn't fix it, the fan was screwed and i got a refurbished dell precision instead

[worldly current]

hello

anyone eating spinach

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/586031051068014612.gif?size=64

[rough sapphire]

Oh

[rough sapphire]

I'm trying to get rid of a dell pc

[rough sapphire]

Installed with windows ten

[turbid hinge]

@rough sapphire how old is it?

[broken dew]

They would have gotten you to install some monitoring software

[broken dew]

That's what my school did until they found out they couldn't turn off the monitoring software...

Because it's a breach of privacy to be able to look through a computer camera when someone is alone in their room?!

No comment.

I'm not sure if discussing how to get around your school's software is allowed on this server

Honestly I don't know

Ok this definitely breaks rule 5

!rule 5

[royal lake]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may break laws, breach terms of services, or are malicious or inappropriate.

[broken dew]

malicious or inappropriate

You may be able to ask the people in #cybersecurity for their opinion

[green pecan]

In my opinion, if they have to ask, they're not experienced enough to safely do so, thus it would not be ethical to help them.
This sort of thing you learn either professionally, or on your own due to the ethics involved.

[waxen saffron]

I am trying to run an android instance on the cloud (preferably for free). Things i have tried

1. Oracle cloud Ampere A1 instance - looks like android emulator doesn't run on arm processors
2. Oracle x86 AMD processors - processor doesn't support virtualization of genymotion and too low RAM for official emulator

What do i do now ?

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @graceful pumice until <t:1631521612:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: burst rule: sent 8 messages in 10s).

[solid pollen]

I doubt you will be able to run an emulator on a free cloud instance, I'm afraid

[waxen saffron]

is it about being free? Is it possible to run an emulator on arm64 machines ?

[solid pollen]

It would be, but you have two layers of emulations and the CPU can't follow

The whole problem here is resources are very limited on free instances

[waxen saffron]

could 4 core arm processors + 24 GB of ram do the job ?

[solid pollen]

It probably can, yeah

[waxen saffron]

But how can i run an android emulator on arm64 ? could you help me with that ?

[solid pollen]

I wouldn't know the exact steps on how to do that, I'm afraid

I'd try to run the emulator through qemu

[waxen saffron]

virtualbox doesn't work on arm64 (so no genymotion)

[waxen saffron]

k lemme try that.

[waxen saffron]

it would be extremely helpful if you could point me to some kinda resource 🙂

[solid pollen]

My best resource is man qemu lol, I don't know much about emulation, I just know it should be possible

[rough sapphire]

Just tried to convert a script from Java library onto pycharm and it's a pain

[slow juniper]

I know that mind... I tried it too. but it was too hard. So I'm just doing my project with python.

lol

[rough sapphire]

You're not kidding

[slow juniper]

Ummm

lol

^^

It IS hard

Gotta go

[rough sapphire]

Seeya!

[tardy rain]

!e

print(*(f"{f}{b}" or n for f, b, n in zip(__import__("itertools").cycle([*[""]*2, "fizz"]), __import__("itertools").cycle([*[""]*4, "buzz"]), range(1, 20))))

[royal lake]

@tardy rain :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

1 2 fizz 4 buzz fizz 7 8 fizz buzz 11 fizz 13 14 fizzbuzz 16 17 fizz 19

[tender smelt]

#esoteric-python

[tardy rain]

Nah, just bed time scribbles

[thick osprey]

[uneven pine]

What is that ungodly font

Show some class mate

[thick osprey]

My class is all curves

[uneven pine]

Your class returns True from isinstance(None)

[thick osprey]

NovaMono since I know you want a copy too

[uneven pine]

How do I blacklist a font

[thick osprey]

No? Some Victor Mono cursive instead? https://rubjo.github.io/victor-mono/

[uneven pine]

That is cursed as fuck

[thick osprey]

I know, I love it.

I use Victor at work. Nova at home

[uneven pine]

You are ugly on the inside

[thick osprey]

I am an egg. dark inside

But... time to actually write the inventory file controller before bed.

[low chasm]

Pfft

[low chasm]

What is this

[low chasm]

This isn't half bad

[thick osprey]

The backend to an EverQuest inventory website I'm building for my partner

[low chasm]

Cool

[thick osprey]

https://github.com/Preocts/eqcharinfo

Just wrapping up the database side tonight or tomorrow. Then on to the API and HTML

[low chasm]

Ooh, nice

[wraith hound]

This font is beautiful

[wraith hound]

I thought so too, but I tried it and realized just how elegant seeing cursive for keywords and comments in code is

So beautiful

But it looks disgusting in my terminal

[thick osprey]

I love the way my eyes just slide right over the gentle curves of the font though

[low chasm]

The None is cursed

[uneven pine]

I am officially resigning from Linux

[low chasm]

Why

[thick osprey]

and I thought my coffee was bitter /tease

[low chasm]

Well, thats fine, go for it

[odd sluice]

ikr

[uneven pine]

Well at the high level,
The community as a whole is toxic, unfriendly, unhelpful, etc.
Despite compatibility being better than ever, it still sucks.

At the distro level, the communities are generally vitriolic and now more than ever filled with kids. Plenty of people will tell you that you're doing something wrong but won't be able to tell you what the "right" way is.

At the low level, I just spent hours getting video drivers to work and when I finally got them working I found that despite manually ensuring and triple-checking that my windows drive was not touched, my windows boot loader got nuked.
Now I'm finding out that my network configuration is also somehow screwed so I have to wait TWO HOURS for a windows ISO download... On a symmetric gigabit fiber connection

[low chasm]

Whoah

Yeah that's a good reason, go for it

App compatibility can be a pain sometimes

I don't game all that much though, so it's not a personal problem for me, but I can see that effecting other people

[uneven pine]

More than ever now I realize that for me Linux was more of a toy than anything actually useful

Too much stuff I have to reboot to windows to use

[thick osprey]

I use linux on my laptop, primary because it's light weight and the laptop is only for writing. Doesn't need much and I like the pep in Mint's step. As you can see from my terminal, I'm in a Windows box most my day with either WSL, a VM, or a tunnel into a *nix jumpbox.

[uneven pine]

Yeah about all I'll use it for now is old hardware

[low chasm]

I dual boot with windows, since I play valorant

[uneven pine]

Stuff that can't reasonably run windows

[thick osprey]

I had a chunk of code... midway through writing my gripe about it I solved the issue.

Thanks!

[uneven pine]

Yeah

Always happens

Actually it's quite funny

[thick osprey]

Going to sleep with that sweet sweet 100%

Feels good

[uneven pine]

I've arrived at a point in my programming path that when I do run into an issue it's about a...
10% chance of being a docs issue
10% chance of being a compatibility issue
40% chance of figuring it out while I'm writing my question
40% chance of it not just stumping me, but stumping everyone else as well until someone who has very suspiciously specific experience comes in and enlightens us all

[thick osprey]

I'd have to say "change of figuring it out while writing a detailed question about it" is about 50% for me, at least.

Unfortunately, for now, my doc issue is a most higher % there. Dumb vendor

[uneven pine]

I thought about it for a moment but then realized a handful of my issues in recent times have been because docs are either out of date or flat out wrong

And I've dealt with a good amount of C compiler issues with compatibility

Compiling regular python down to C and then into a normal executable is one HELL of a task

But it CAN be done and the results ARE amazing

[thick osprey]

Sounds nifty. Far more involved than I've ever gone with the code.

I write simple-complex automation that usually hides between two processes and twists data from one shape to another.

[uneven pine]

Fun fun

Mine is an electron style app

Running CEFPython to embed chromium, on top of a hypercorn server running the sanic web framework

[floral apex]

The community as a whole is toxic, unfriendly, unhelpful, etc.

Really? Though to be fair my only (voluntary) exposure with Linux users have been with Ubuntu users

And other commercially backed distros (Suse and RHEL family distros), in an Ubuntu Discord server

[uneven pine]

The second you want to do anything outside of basic desktop use and have a problem... Good luck

[last mantle]

the MS server is quite friendly

[uneven pine]

Thing is I think I've needed actually support for something on windows.... Once

And I started all the way back on ME

[slow juniper]

School is endddd

yey

[molten flax]

[uneven pine]

Rubber bug deducking

[spare lance]

i was wondering how the "command line" thing works.. like how do applications like cmd and pwsh are called command lines and how does winterm puts them into a different body

[graceful basin]

essentially, you have 2 parts here. One is the terminal emulator, this talks to a process and renders it's output and gives it input from the user. This is windows terminal, conhost.exe, alacritty, st, xterm

then you have the shell application, which just reads input from stdin and writes to stdout, without really caring about what the 2 actually are

though you get things like isatty

[spare lance]

ah hmm ohkay... so cmd or powershell actually are processes/do processes
and what we see when we directly open powershell or cmd is another shell which is designed specifically for those?

[graceful basin]

when you open them normally, you see the default windows terminal emulator conhost.exe

it's really old

[spare lance]

ah ohkayyy

[graceful basin]

try doing conhost.exe, it should open the same thing as cmd.exe

[spare lance]

ohkay yeah it does

and powershell also opens (similarish) window

[latent scaffold]

conhost is the terminal

cmd/PowerShell are the shells

Windows Terminal is also a terminal, which can run both shells

[spare lance]

ah hmm alright that makes sense yeah

so uhm i am wondering what makes this shells shells
i mean could anyone make some stuff into a shell or sumn?
like for example i have a python file which i would like to be used as a shell in some terminal.. could it be done

[floral apex]

Windows Terminal is a nice terminal

[dapper dew]

I like windows with WSL, and throw some oh-my-zsh with powerlevel10k on top

[spare lance]

@graceful basin sorry to ping u personally but just in case u have ideas or material to read over it.. i would be grateful 👀

[graceful basin]

the most basic shell is just read input -> do thing and write output

when you run python, that's a shell

you could probably even use it (poorly) as a login shell on linux

[spare lance]

ah lol..
hmm ohkay yeah so shell includes reading input too? like parse it from std input types?

[graceful basin]

ye, parsing 'find src | grep "a b"' into a command is part of what a shell does

[spare lance]

ah ohkayy .. idk why i thought it was work of terminal

so um as i get somewhat a shell struct is like```bat

• prompt and place cursor(done with prompt)
• parse stuff from stdinp (while shell is being used as one)
• do the required processes
• give back the output

while the terminals are somewhat on the lines of ```bat
- take prompt function from the shell source
- execute the function in its own window (showing the prompt and place the cursor)
- allow the shell to parse the stdinp [ not sure about this one ] 
- let shell do the processes
- catch whatever the shell returns and give the output
``` did i get it right? 😅

[graceful basin]

terminal emulators generally don't do anything special with prompts

those are entirely done by just printing at the right time

[spare lance]

ah ohkayy

but then what i wonder is terminal emulators can you know run quite a lot of shells and cant run a few cli
so it is because of the structure of application that they can do it

[graceful basin]

most terminal emulators will run most CLIs just fine

what is important is what escape sequences they support

[spare lance]

ah ohkay

[spare lance]

hmm yeah perhaps... mysql one requires login as the first prompt... could that be a problem

[graceful basin]

that is probably just done with printing and some terminal flag manipulation

it is not quite as simple as just stdin -> stdout sadly

[spare lance]

ah lol well seems so

since stuff errors out when trying to put that thing in winterm

[rough sapphire]

What school do you go to?

[reef geyser]

@primal spruce yeah, they point to stuff but why is that useful?

why can't I just use the actual data?

why do I need a memory address?

[primal spruce]

it's because instead of duplicating data, you duplicate directions to the data

[reef geyser]

...

holy shit.

[dapper dew]

Space and Time

[rough sapphire]

Hi squid

[primal spruce]

honestly, just think of them like python variables. we literally effectively use pointers

[reef geyser]

right, everything is just a reference

[low chasm]

Hi squid

[primal spruce]

exactly. a pointer 😄

[reef geyser]

now it makes sense

[rough sapphire]

Hi squid

[low chasm]

Hi squid :D

[reef geyser]

hi @rough sapphire

[low chasm]

Lmfao

[rough sapphire]

.randomcase hi squid

[median dome]

Hi sQUId

[reef geyser]

henlo lancy

[rough sapphire]

Welp fuck I gotta go for a run for gym

[reef geyser]

yeah, get that run in!

[primal spruce]

^.^ glad to hear! oki, sneaking back off of here!

[low chasm]

Cya

[edgy crest]

no you run for your health not for your gym

[last mantle]

and you do neither

[acoustic moss]

LMAO

[molten stag]

how to deindent multiple lines at the same time in pycharm?

[acoustic moss]

select the lines and shift tab

[tardy rain]

dont you just hate it when you come across an annoying issue but you cant reproduce it

[rough sapphire]

Does anyone else like to troll the scammers?

[dapper dew]

I just reported them to discord

and told them to fuck off

[uneven pine]

Yes, very much so, if I'm not busy when they message me I like to run 'em along and try to get them to download/run dubious things

such as cryptographic drive wipers

99.9% of the time they're not dumb enough

[rough sapphire]

Yeah they're very stupid though and they just bother me all the time

[uneven pine]

I think I'm on a global scammer blacklist at this point

they haven't messaged me in about a month

[rough sapphire]

Sweet

Pycharm isn't working help

[uneven pine]

use vs code

[rough sapphire]

The window for pycharm wouldn't open so i restarted my computer and it works now

[rough sapphire]

Eek

[rough sapphire]

I fixed it

[uneven pine]

okay

don't know why you needed to ping me for that

[rough sapphire]

Idek there's no one to talk to rn

[uneven pine]

I don't care

[low chasm]

You guys get real scammers??

I only get bots

[proven ermine]

I've gotten like 5 scammers in the past two years

alwasy fun :)

They block me though 😔

[odd sluice]

i havent got any scammers yet
maybe i should ask google to turn off the anti spam on my email

[odd sluice]

lmao

[uneven pine]

I once got one to go through the whole spongebob wallet meme

"Hey is this your steam account? <Direct link to my real steam account>"

Nope, sorry not mine.
"But you are Awoo?"
Yup.
"And this has the same profile picture?"
Yup.
"And it's linked to your Discord profile, so it must be your account?"
That makes sense to me.
"Well, I reported your account by accident for illegal purchasing"
That's not my account

[proven ermine]

I've gotten ones to block me very quickly using a few tactics

[uneven pine]

weak

I usually start sending them furry stuff

[proven ermine]

That is furry stuff

[uneven pine]

if I don't have time to really mess with em

how furry we talkin

[proven ermine]

"What the dog doin?"

[uneven pine]

that's a tik tak meme

not furry stuff

[proven ermine]

really needs the image to make sense

[uneven pine]

Is it yiff?

[proven ermine]

nah

[uneven pine]

feel free to DM it to me

if it can't be posted here

[proven ermine]

Yeah idk if i wanna post it here wether its nsfw or not

[uneven pine]

I'm curious to see it lol

[proven ermine]

Cause some guy gonna be looking through my messages in the future an i don want them seeing furry stuff 💀

[uneven pine]

lol

[proven ermine]

pain

[uneven pine]

lmao

hold on

try now

I disabled message scanning

[proven ermine]

hmm, yep, cn't send messages to u lol

[uneven pine]

discord hates you

[odd sluice]

i dont understand how they make money off of this

[uneven pine]

they steal steam accounts from people dumb enough to fall for it

and then they sell them

[proven ermine]

Pretty much sums it up

Its a pain

[odd sluice]

but how
all they do is just get ur steamprofile

[uneven pine]

the scam works by them convincing you to send a support request

through a phishing website

that makes you login to "steam"

which means even if you have 2fa, you'll use the 2fa to login

and then your account go byebye

[odd sluice]

ahhh I see

[uneven pine]

it usually involves two people

[proven ermine]

They then tell you that they accidentally reported your account for an illegal purchase or something of the sort. They tell you to DM a discord account that is supposedly a steam/value "admin" to fix the issue. The "admin" then does a few things, gets your email, then sends a password reset request. They convince you it's for "maintenence purposes", so you give it to them, they log in, change ur password, account gone.

[uneven pine]

^

The one that I lead on for a while went slightly different

[proven ermine]

There are different variations of it

[uneven pine]

when I added the admin, they sent me to a phishing website

[proven ermine]

but they're all the same strategy

[uneven pine]

whole recreation of the steam support website

[proven ermine]

damn, they went elaborate on that one

[uneven pine]

I logged in with a real steam account, brand new one with no games or anything on it

lol

[proven ermine]

Someday I'm just gonna make a throwaway steam account and when a scammer DMs me I'll just respond with the login to it and the email

[odd sluice]

i swear i wanna rick roll one of these

[proven ermine]

sometime if a scammer dms me I might just do a "Chad"

[odd sluice]

I have a very big urge to do this

[proven ermine]

deez nutz

Hmm, wait

I can add scammers to group DMs cause they friend me

If I still had nitro I would :trol: right now

Shoulda said "do it"

[safe lagoon]

anyone feel that the new ip13 is disappointing

[last mantle]

as usual

[uneven pine]

What's ip13?

[last mantle]

iPhone 13

[uneven pine]

Oh

Well duh. Apple have been charging 2x or more than what the hardware is worth for years and years

I think the last iphone that had any sort of real innovation was what, the iPhone 4s?

[edgy crest]

what was the innovation

[uneven pine]

I dunno to be honest, that's just the phone that sticks in my head

[edgy crest]

hmm

[uneven pine]

But I'll also be honest as much as I love Android it really wasn't there until like Android 8

You can argue 6

[last mantle]

i am waiting for android 12

and then i can finally upgrade

[rough sapphire]

android

[odd sluice]

i like android

havent tried ios

[distant hazel]

@tardy goblet

[floral apex]

I like Android. I also like how it's less costly to enter if you're a dev

[distant burrow]

@floral apex AHAHA HI!!!

[uneven pine]

I use ipados literally daily

iPad sits next to my bed and plays noise so I can sleep

[clear acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761533912237080586/887538452994867270/Mematic_20210913_132934.jpg

[dire siren]

ot1 doesn't have slowmode enabled right?

[spare lance]

irony u posted it in ot1

[clear acorn]

[graceful basin]

it gets very busy

[tardy goblet]

yes I see, it still tries to take off here and there

funny that you remember 🙂

[noble atlas]

this ot name is little creepy. "flying macbook" 😂

[latent scaffold]

macbooks are indeed creepy

[inland wolf]

bruh

[molten flax]

macbooks suck

[dire siren]

the price of macbook is flying

[mild abyss]

depends

[molten flax]

whats the good side of it lol

[mild abyss]

m1 chips

ARM

the only downside will be just apple's closed ecosystem, because i dont favor it. it will be advantageous to those that like to be in their ecosystem.

[rough sapphire]

i love cmd+space thing.

[molten flax]

O

[rough sapphire]

but i loved coding on mac, ngl, no matter what they say, i was cool with it.

[harsh tundra]

Cmd+space? That's ctrl+space and exists in any IDE

[mortal smelt]

Helow

[rough sapphire]

cmd as in command(button)
also no i meant the application finder which we usually do after pressing windows and then write name.

[mortal smelt]

Oppinion on Justin Bieber?

Pls

[latent scaffold]

I think we knew that by cmd you meant the button

[rough sapphire]

okay my bad 🤐😫

[harsh tundra]

Oh. So I prefer just super key, not combo to bring up app finder. Works on Linux as well with one key

[mortal smelt]

Oppinion on Justin Bieber????

PLS

[harsh tundra]

And system keybind being the same as app keybind is not a good idea because you cannot bring up application search while in IDE

[latent scaffold]

what does command + space do?

[mortal smelt]

Bruh

[rough sapphire]

the search bar for apps

[latent scaffold]

oh, I think it has that same keybind on KDE too

but I just used a screen gesture for that

[harsh tundra]

Ubuntu just uses Super

[molten flax]

i like some of his songs ngl

[latent scaffold]

not that thing, I don't think

[mortal smelt]

Thx for participating in the servey

[harsh tundra]

By default super is the so-called Windows key. But it's not Windows

[mortal smelt]

I will leave now

[molten flax]

yw

[rough sapphire]

but mac was fun for me, i'm even thinking of buying macbook pro after a couple of years now.

[latent scaffold]

I forget what it's called, but the application launcher is indeed super

assuming you mean "the Windows key"

but I'm talking about something else

[rough sapphire]

oh they call it 'super'?

[harsh tundra]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_key_(keyboard_button)

[dire siren]

does mac have the stackoverflow ctrl c ctrl v button

i cant buy it

[rough sapphire]

oh i see, i was not aware of that.

[harsh tundra]

Most Linux desktop environments use the Super key for window management and application launching, not only for commands used by applications. Much of this is similar to the use of the Windows key in the Windows operating system.

[latent scaffold]

"KRunner" is what I was mentioning

it's this little text box at the top of your screen you can use to launch apps or switch to windows and stuff

[harsh tundra]

I actually remapped some stuff in my Ubuntu to use Windows-like shortcuts. Eg on Windows I use win+e a lot, so I added super+e to launch Home window

[latent scaffold]

One thing I liked is that super + . is the default for the emoji keyboard

[harsh tundra]

Btw, there was browsers discussion in ot0 earlier and Vivaldi was talked about. Vivaldi actually has a search everything bar if you hit f2 or something

[harsh tundra]

Just like Windows. Idk if my Ubuntu has it by default, I don't use emojis manually on it. I use some emojis from emoji picker in telegram and that's it

Oh, and tg implemented name search for emojis a few months ago anyway

[latent scaffold]

yeah I never use it because I just do like \:weary:

on Discord, anyways

I don't use emoji anywhere else

[harsh tundra]

I like classical emoticons. Like ;) :D :P ;P

And <3

[latent scaffold]

I only ever use D: and :(

or sarcastic :)

[molten flax]

YOOO I DIDNT KNOW ABOUT THIS IM SHOOK😭

[quick ledge]

yeah, it's called Krunner and the default keybind is alt + space

typing in the desktop brings up krunner too

like, when you have no applications open

[uneven pine]

Ahh yeah powertoys has one like that too

Quite a nice thing

[dapper dew]

super + v for clipboard too, love it too much

[latent scaffold]

that's what it was...

[quick ledge]

that's there in windows too

you have to enable it though

[latent scaffold]

I figured out it was KRunner but I didn't remember the bind

[uneven pine]

Like clipboard history? That's a windows thing too now yeah.

[quick ledge]

(the clipboard history thing)

[uneven pine]

Off by default cause people would complain about it spying on them otherwise

[spare lance]

Ctrl+V 👀

[quick ledge]

hmm?

[dapper dew]

win + v is the better form

[latent scaffold]

Why do I have C code in my clipboard

[odd sluice]

ikr i use it all the time

[latent scaffold]

#include <stdio.h>

int main() {
    char* str = "Hello, world!";
    *(str + 1) = 'h';
    printf("%s", str);
    return 0;
}

very interesting

[odd sluice]

wat

[latent scaffold]

ohhh I remember

I was playing around with char *str vs char str[]

[spare lance]

Oh wait yes frick... Yes clipboard

[inland wolf]

lmao

[dapper dew]

Any other favorite shortcuts? ctrl + shift + esc, alt + tab, win + r etc

[odd sluice]

win + tab for desktop switching

[rough sapphire]

shift win s

[acoustic moss]

ctrl win right arrow, ctrl win left arrow for switching between desktops

i use win shift s a lot too

[rough sapphire]

4 fingers💙

Who have join logs?

[dapper dew]

I use greenshot, so that is mapped to my print screen key

[quick ledge]

uhhh what?

[rough sapphire]

oh. i kinda don't feel like adding anything. win gives nice support for cropping. so fast.

I need join logs... Please help me

[dapper dew]

I also use the win + 1/2/3/4 whichever number to access the apps in my toolbar (1 is the furthest left)

[inland wolf]

win+shift+s

[quick ledge]

That is a weird request. Why do you need join logs?

[low chasm]

I'm sure someone has the join logs memorized

[dapper dew]

That is usually my startup, win + 1 +2 +3 +4, win + e

[inland wolf]

^

[rough sapphire]

bruh i just said that

[inland wolf]

lol

win + e for explorer

[rough sapphire]

yes

[quick ledge]

win + L for fireworks animation

[inland wolf]

LMAO

[quick ledge]

yes

[inland wolf]

win + space to change language

[rough sapphire]

okay i did try that

[rough sapphire]

yes

[inland wolf]

lmfaooo

get powertoys now :getgunned:

[low chasm]

Amateurs, I don't have windows shortcuts

[inland wolf]

thats called being an amateur

[rough sapphire]

my most used win shft s immediately followed by ctrl v

[inland wolf]

aha

[inland wolf]

same

[low chasm]

I have my own custom shortcuts

[inland wolf]

same

win shift s just points to ctrl print which makes sharex screenshot

[low chasm]

I control the shortcuts

[inland wolf]

because sharex cant detect win shift s for some reason

[odd sluice]

smh just use printscreen

one key, one drag, one ss

[rough sapphire]

doesn't that save the image?

[inland wolf]

no

[odd sluice]

for me it does what win+shift+s does

[rough sapphire]

oh. but prtscr is quite far away

I'll stick with win shft s

[latent scaffold]

._. I just logged myself out

[odd sluice]

for me its one finger away

and a lot better than a 3 key shortcut

[inland wolf]

yea thats why i remapped

[inland wolf]

lmao

[latent scaffold]

what does win + L do on Windows?

[rough sapphire]

fireworks

[edgy crest]

what

[latent scaffold]

I mean seriously

[rough sapphire]

i meant seriously

[edgy crest]

theres fireworks in windows?

[latent scaffold]

figured

[inland wolf]

yes

[acoustic moss]

ye

[inland wolf]

there are fireworks in windows

[odd sluice]

fireworks

[inland wolf]

^

[odd sluice]

yes
i seem to remember something of that sort

[acoustic moss]

mhm

[inland wolf]

same

love the fireworks

[odd sluice]

definitely

[inland wolf]

very fireworky

[rough sapphire]

classic windows things

[acoustic moss]

oh man

[inland wolf]

enjoyed the fireworks part of it

[acoustic moss]

this reminded me of spider solitaire

[rough sapphire]

i liked the infinite stacks of solitaire

[tardy goblet]

yes everytime I screen share the macbook attempt to take off and fly away

[noble atlas]

[edgy crest]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-mayhem-nostalgia-old-cry-gif-17349369

[uneven pine]

Locks the screen

Since no one actually answered

[latent scaffold]

ah

[mortal smelt]

Heelow

I'm very bordd

Pls help me

[solemn leaf]

purble place 👀

[edgy crest]

[solemn leaf]

those
good
ol

[edgy crest]

days

[solemn leaf]

non productive days lmfao

[edgy crest]

ikr

oh no

fisher is officially captain now

[acoustic moss]

[edgy crest]

[latent scaffold]

ohh, Fisher's admin now

I was looking for him in the moderators section

[molten flax]

[clear acorn]

best game ever

[clear acorn]

[woeful cipher]

hi parker

[clear acorn]

||hello peter||

[woeful cipher]

but the new trailer is dope ngl

[clear acorn]

ikr

[glass karma]

@terse heron why did u mute my frinds

friends

they were just joking

why

jerk

[terse heron]

!ban 763814494606065665 3d Learn not to disrespect staff when you disagree. If you have an issue with a Moderator's actions, you can contact @polar knoll

[inland wolf]

bruh

[mild abyss]

thanks. this gave me a good laugh

[wild yarrow]

o.o

[opal atlas]

Before I die I wanna make a absurd sound system

[pine ember]

@glass karma

sed

[clear acorn]

||how will they contact modmail if they are banned ||

[odd sluice]

kinda harsh but ok

not gonna question it

[rough sapphire]

by dm.

[odd sluice]

how will they dm if they r not in the same server

[opal atlas]

its about rap

[uneven pine]

they will not contact modmail after being banned

they are banned

:^)

[molten flax]

lolol

[inland wolf]

executioner got executed 😔

[wild yarrow]

heh

[clear acorn]

lol they can't dm if they have no common server

[odd sluice]

ikr

[maiden yacht]

Got a little project, I was trying to optimise power usage of my laptop while on batteries, and while closing programs worked, I disliked losing my work.
For a while I manually sent SIGSTOP to the worst culprits, but I decided to neatly tie is all together.
So, since I like my console, I wrote a small program using curses, that looks for certain programs and will display them and their status (color coded) and allow sending a quick SIGSTOP when running and SIGCONT when stopped.
I then added starting and stopping of select (power hungry) services, as well as loading unloading sets of kernel modules.
It will also query battery discharge, and display the average power used over 1, 5 and 15min (as well as current), as well as predicted battery run times for those power usages.
GitHub: https://github.com/NAKlama/powerSaver

[mild abyss]

bag abuse

[tribal aurora]

das great

[harsh tundra]

it was probably how this "friend" of muted/banned person came on server instead of ModMail... this ban is also not permanent so they can return and do it correctly next time.
+I think PyDis also has email or some form on the website for banned people to contact them.
.... btw, if those "friends" were really only muted, then they could've contacted ModMail themselves. so the person here literally just came to argue and namecall a mod, not really do anything

[distant hazel]

so is a !ban on pydis actually a kick, and !pban is the normal discord IP ban?

[tranquil orchid]

No they're actual bans

By default permanent, otherwise just for a given duration and then they're unbanned

[acoustic moss]

pban is purge ban

[tranquil orchid]

^

Clears their messages as well as banning them

[distant hazel]

hah I thought of the wrong "p"

[floral apex]

@narrow kindle Even then, why would I go out when there's Covid. Wouldn't that mean we're still forced inside because we don't wanna get sick?

[brazen ingot]

muted bro.

[floral apex]

Oh, his loss then

Oh wait as in "can't talk muted"

[brazen ingot]

mine

too

@wooden silo better see this

||@floral apex and friend him lol||

[floral apex]

This is just gonna devolve into some long winded argument, so nah

[safe lagoon]

i honestly dont mind debating with the guy

can we just unmute him so we can all go at him

[brazen ingot]

nice

[rough sapphire]

tell him he has nice dp, i had dp of chopper before this 😄

[safe lagoon]

i mean, he called a mod "idiot", which is just breaking rules honestly

[honest star]

If they want to discuss their mute and appeal it, the best course of action is to DM @polar knoll

[brazen ingot]

yeas said him that too

kat.

[clear acorn]

j9

[floral apex]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-9 J9

This oddly looks like a Saab Gripen

[clear acorn]

lol

[floral apex]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen

Okay maybe just the basic structure

[dapper dew]

The J9 looks like it was made in KSP

[native cargo]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese took design cues from elsewhere. It's to be expected if you're bootstrapping a domestic industry

[rough sapphire]

KSP is great

[dapper dew]

Right? My pfp is totally unrelated

[rough sapphire]

Definitely no resemblance of Jebediah Kerman nope nope nope

[opal atlas]

I have one of these

[daring sonnet]

#help-coconut message @broken dew ?

[broken dew]

floordiv was offtopic, wasn't it?

They were specifically asking about __div__ vs __truediv__

@daring sonnet

[daring sonnet]

I just wanted to show also this operator 👍

Some people forget that // in Python isn't a comment

[broken dew]

Fair enough. I don't think that was an issue there though

Read the thread in the link above. It used to be a thing in py2

[solemn leaf]

__truediv__ for python3

[deep ingot]

i visited the other robotics club at our school and im thinking of joining

[rough sapphire]

if I happen to win this "fish with pro angler edwin evers" contest based on some food packaging, i'll scream