#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 599

inland wolf Sep 2, 2021, 5:39 PM

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bro u can do eartrumpet with a right click on the sound icon

odd sluice Sep 2, 2021, 5:39 PM

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its an extra click

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and a new window

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so no

inland wolf Sep 2, 2021, 5:39 PM

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bruh

latent scaffold Sep 2, 2021, 5:39 PM

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wtf is eartrumpet

inland wolf Sep 2, 2021, 5:39 PM

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volume mixer with less steps

latent scaffold Sep 2, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Right

inland wolf Sep 2, 2021, 5:40 PM

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lol

odd sluice Sep 2, 2021, 5:40 PM

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with a nice ui too

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i think it was meant for win10 but ok

inland wolf Sep 2, 2021, 5:40 PM

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yes it was made for win10

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ui is nice yes

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nicer*

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compared to volume mixer

shell raptor Sep 3, 2021, 12:03 AM

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AwA @reef geyser

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:03 AM

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AStaigaClap

shell raptor Sep 3, 2021, 12:03 AM

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VwV

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:03 AM

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AwA

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:03 AM

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aWa

shell raptor Sep 3, 2021, 12:03 AM

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aшa

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:04 AM

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!charinfo ш

royal lakeBOT Sep 3, 2021, 12:04 AM

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You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:04 AM

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pain

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Oh come on

shell raptor Sep 3, 2021, 12:04 AM

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!charinfo ш

royal lakeBOT Sep 3, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Character Info

\u0448 : CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER SHA - ш

thick osprey Sep 3, 2021, 12:04 AM

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get dunked

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Dammit

shell raptor Sep 3, 2021, 12:04 AM

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idk why it's not allowed here 😦

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:05 AM

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that's right,
you can get char info
you're just a meer member after all

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now, a meer helper

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that's a whole new ballpark

shell raptor Sep 3, 2021, 12:05 AM

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royal lake

The cyrillic alphabet is so advanced that it includes SHA from the ground up

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SHA-2 I believe

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:05 AM

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shell raptor The cyrillic alphabet is so advanced that it includes SHA from the ground up

What

shell raptor Sep 3, 2021, 12:05 AM

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Cyrillic Small Letter SHA

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:05 AM

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so cyrillic is just a hash of another alphabet, gotcha

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:05 AM

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Oh fuck I just got that

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Lol

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:06 AM

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reef geyser so cyrillic is just a hash of another alphabet, gotcha

256, 512, 1024?

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:06 AM

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2

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An upgrade to SHA-256 would be good tho

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:07 AM

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I wonder is there a SHA 4096 or is that just for RSA

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:07 AM

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ASakashrug

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if there isn't one now, there will be eventually

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:07 AM

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Dev contrib

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Nothing's happening there

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Just DM him

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:07 AM

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nah, ping him in microcontrollers kekw

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:08 AM

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Lmao

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Or unix

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:08 AM

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open a help channel and ping him

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:08 AM

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You should have staff channels now rick iirc

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:08 AM

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what

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why no srtaff channels

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this is unfair give rick staff cnahesl

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what

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oh

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:10 AM

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low chasm this is unfair give rick staff cnahesl

mild stroke

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:10 AM

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no stroke

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:10 AM

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surprised nobody pointed this out

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:10 AM

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I never make typos

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lies

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:10 AM

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says the man who's got typos for literally every quote in the cat server

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:10 AM

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squid you're mistaken

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aha got the right you're

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no i didn't

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lies

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fake news

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:11 AM

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low chasm aha got the right you're

👏

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:11 AM

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bruh

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:11 AM

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low chasm fake news

Ok trump

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:11 AM

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english genius amirite

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:11 AM

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this man typoed in his edit

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:11 AM

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rough sapphire Ok trump

lies I'm aboo

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:11 AM

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went from fake nws to fake nes

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:11 AM

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reef geyser this man typoed in his edit

photoshop

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photoshop

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gimp

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:11 AM

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you're down bad aboo ASNotLikeThis

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:11 AM

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Lol

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:11 AM

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phjto editiing

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:11 AM

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double typo

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woot woot

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:12 AM

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lmao

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:12 AM

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You're gonna what

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:12 AM

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wtf

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:12 AM

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Oh

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:12 AM

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yes I can

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:12 AM

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Lol no you can't

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:12 AM

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yes I can

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:13 AM

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Time to chsnel my iner abop

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:13 AM

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a b o p

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:13 AM

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lmao

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:13 AM

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CatRave

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:13 AM

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cat

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:13 AM

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mans is a bop

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:13 AM

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well no I'm aboo

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:13 AM

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you're abop now

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:14 AM

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no I'm aboo

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:14 AM

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have I ever mentioned you look like ash ketchum

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:14 AM

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i what

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:14 AM

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@rough sapphire back me up on this

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:14 AM

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howd you know what I look like

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:15 AM

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reef geyser <@456226577798135808> back me up on this

Wait holy shit you're right

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:15 AM

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your sister drew your pfp which is actually just a drawing of you, right?

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:15 AM

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no

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I look much more horrendous than this

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lmao

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:15 AM

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you still look like ash ketchum

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:15 AM

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well, perhaps

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:16 AM

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mans is about to stay ten years old for the next 30 years

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enjoy youth, aboo

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:16 AM

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It doesn't last forever

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:16 AM

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reef geyser mans is about to stay ten years old for the next 30 years

pfft

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:16 AM

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reef geyser mans is about to stay ten years old for the next 30 years

12

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:17 AM

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I was shitposting with my 9th grade science teacher and all the freshmen made me feel like I was approaching my late 20s

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:17 AM

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lmao

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:17 AM

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Lol

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I gotta run

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Bye

reef geyser Sep 3, 2021, 12:17 AM

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later kron

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but yeah, I'm down bad

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so enjoy being young

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 12:17 AM

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runs

low chasm Sep 3, 2021, 12:18 AM

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rough sapphire Bye

cya

thick osprey Sep 3, 2021, 12:20 AM

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rooOld

frail badge Sep 3, 2021, 1:30 AM

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salt is angry sugar

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but what if sugar is happy salt lemon_thinking

thick osprey Sep 3, 2021, 1:34 AM

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Would that mean if we turned salt upside down we'd have sugar?

frail badge Sep 3, 2021, 1:34 AM

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yes!

surreal otter Sep 3, 2021, 2:03 AM

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thick osprey Would that mean if we turned salt upside down we'd have sugar?

When I'm angry, turning me upside down does not result in happiness

frail badge Sep 3, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Really?

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Was not aware of that

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yk what they say, turn that frown upside down :D

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most efficient way of doing that is flipping them over D:

surreal otter Sep 3, 2021, 2:04 AM

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but the frown is relative to the face it's on, not the viewer's face

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so now the whole face is upside down, so still frowning

frail badge Sep 3, 2021, 2:06 AM

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turn that logic upside down :D

thick osprey Sep 3, 2021, 2:13 AM

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surreal otter When I'm angry, turning me upside down does not result in happiness

This doesn't surprise me

floral apex Sep 3, 2021, 2:32 AM

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Bitterness is just disappointed sugar

frail badge Sep 3, 2021, 2:38 AM

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😔

thick osprey Sep 3, 2021, 2:42 AM

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├── budgethelper
│   ├── __init__.py
│   ├── constants.py
│   ├── databases
│   │   ├── __init__.py
│   │   ├── databaseabc.py
│   │   └── sqlite.py
│   ├── dbconnection.py
│   ├── exceptions.py
│   ├── models
│   │   ├── __init__.py
│   │   ├── database.py
│   │   ├── source.py
│   │   └── transaction.py
│   ├── protocols
│   │   └── sqlcursor.py
│   ├── sources.py
│   └── transactions.py
├── requirements-dev.in
├── requirements-dev.txt
├── requirements.in
├── requirements.txt
├── setup.cfg
└── tests
    ├── __init__.py
    ├── dbconnection_test.py
    └── transactions_test.py

rooHep

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 3:54 AM

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thick osprey ``` ├── budgethelper │ ├── __init__.py │ ├── constants.py │ ├── databases ...

this tree is scaring me ;-;

frail badge Sep 3, 2021, 4:00 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/eyes-burning-my-eyes-spongebob-gif-5183364

Tenor

eyes

▶ Play video

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how do u make a tree like that?

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challenge: make a python program that does that for you (by looking at a certain folder in your computer >:)

thick osprey Sep 3, 2021, 4:17 AM

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I did my own tree code once. It was fun!
This was just tree -I "venv|__pycache__" in bash

dire siren Sep 3, 2021, 4:57 AM

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sadge, i thought i guessed most people's answer

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 5:02 AM

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frail badge challenge: make a python program that does that for you (by looking at a certain...

it shouldnt be bad stuff lol
just quite a bunch of os.walks 👀

thick osprey Sep 3, 2021, 5:07 AM

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.
├── LICENSE
├── Makefile
├── README.md
├── budgethelper
│   ├── __init__.py
│   ├── clients
│   │   ├── __init__.py
│   │   ├── databaseabc.py
│   │   ├── source_client.py
│   │   └── transaction_client.py
│   ├── constants.py
│   ├── exceptions.py
│   └── models
│       ├── __init__.py
│       ├── database.py
│       ├── source.py
│       └── transaction.py
├── requirements-dev.in
├── requirements-dev.txt
├── requirements.in
├── requirements.txt
├── setup.cfg
└── tests
    ├── __init__.py
    ├── dbconnection_test.py
    └── transactions_test.py

Cleaner rooGNOD

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I think that's enough to start poking at the API tomorrow. Learn how the pieces fit together.

dire siren Sep 3, 2021, 5:17 AM

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thick osprey ``` . ├── LICENSE ├── Makefile ├── README.md ├── budgethelper │ ├── __init__.p...

!pypi seedir 😎

royal lakeBOT Sep 3, 2021, 5:17 AM

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seedir v0.2.0

Package for creating, editing, and reading folder tree diagrams.

dire siren Sep 3, 2021, 5:17 AM

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its a nice lib

distant burrow Sep 3, 2021, 5:19 AM

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Anyone know why applpe won't let me install xcode, i have like 40 gigs of free space yet it tells me not enough space

thick osprey Sep 3, 2021, 5:19 AM

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dire siren !pypi seedir 😎

Nice! Thank you madWiggle

thick osprey Sep 3, 2021, 5:20 AM

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distant burrow Anyone know why applpe won't let me install xcode, i have like 40 gigs of free s...

Not a mac user but I'd start by looking up the exact error message it spits out at you. From there... well I'll let any mac users speak up rooDerp

distant burrow Sep 3, 2021, 5:21 AM

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it's just a not enough space eror

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even though the app is 11 gigs and the other stuff is around 20 i got 40 gigs

thick osprey Sep 3, 2021, 5:24 AM

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Some quick searching tells me that apple has the concept of "Available" space and within that "Purgeable" space. Available might be 40gigs but how much of that is purgeable? xCode apparently looks at the diff between those two.

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So this says 104 GB available but xcode would see 104 - 11

distant burrow Sep 3, 2021, 5:28 AM

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AH

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FYCK

thick osprey Sep 3, 2021, 5:29 AM

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I take it that might have been the cause?

dire siren Sep 3, 2021, 5:31 AM

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frail badge how do u make a tree like that?

#ot1-perplexing-regexing message 😉

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oops wrong reply

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its supposed to be the "challenge" one

tame terrace Sep 3, 2021, 6:33 AM

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love this otname

latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 6:35 AM

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uh oh

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don't tell salt

inland wolf Sep 3, 2021, 6:35 AM

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@burnt token

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bruh

latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 6:35 AM

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that's awkward

inland wolf Sep 3, 2021, 6:36 AM

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when i typed it out

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it didnt show any suggestions

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so i thought there was no person named sugar

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after i sent it pinged 😄

latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 6:37 AM

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um

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 6:37 AM

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Wrong image wtf

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rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 6:38 AM

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latent scaffold um

Don't ask, it's an inside joke with me and my friends 🤣

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 6:55 AM

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inland wolf <@692964371609157642>

this.. relating to #ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval

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bet salt is going to kill me for this 👀

latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 7:06 AM

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who's salt

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I only know angy sugar

edgy crest Sep 3, 2021, 7:26 AM

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hmm

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isnt salt just

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salty sugar

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 9:07 AM

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its salty sugar tbh

floral apex Sep 3, 2021, 11:03 AM

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Mix the salt and sugar in your kitchen

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 11:05 AM

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make sure to wear your gloves, apron and safety glasses while you do that

odd sluice Sep 3, 2021, 12:33 PM

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why not heat it to the point cl disassociates
then, you really do need some safety glasses and a mask

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 12:52 PM

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I made an auto draw script (original image is the right)

odd sluice Sep 3, 2021, 12:52 PM

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damn

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cool!

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how?

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 12:52 PM

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This is what I made

import win32con, win32api, keyboard, time, pyautogui
from PIL import Image

class Settings:
    threshold = 230
    pixel_skip = 1
    new_line_delay = 0.1

def click(x_pos, y_pos):
    win32api.SetCursorPos((x_pos, y_pos))
    win32api.mouse_event(win32con.MOUSEEVENTF_LEFTDOWN, 0, 0)
    win32api.mouse_event(win32con.MOUSEEVENTF_LEFTUP, 0, 0)

def main():
    time.sleep(2)
    img = Image.open("test.png")
    offset = pyautogui.position()
    w, h = img.size
    
    for x in range(0, w, Settings.pixel_skip):
        for y in range(0, h, Settings.pixel_skip):
            color = img.getpixel((x, y))
            if color[0] < Settings.threshold:
                click(x + offset.x, y + offset.y)
            
            if keyboard.is_pressed("q"):
                return 0
        time.sleep(Settings.new_line_delay)
                
if __name__ == "__main__":
    main()

odd sluice Sep 3, 2021, 12:53 PM

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damn u worked with the win32 api
i didnt even know a python lib existed for that

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 12:53 PM

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it's very useful

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I could have used Pyautogui, but it is considerably slower

inland wolf Sep 3, 2021, 12:54 PM

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i wouldve thought pautogui would be fast

odd sluice Sep 3, 2021, 12:54 PM

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hmmmm I didn't know that
I havent ever worked with pyautogui

inland wolf Sep 3, 2021, 12:54 PM

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it also uses the win32 api right

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 12:54 PM

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win32api is faster, but pyautogui is still pretty fast

inland wolf Sep 3, 2021, 12:54 PM

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good to know

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 12:55 PM

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Doesn't really matter too much in this project since I have a small delay. without the delay it starts making paint freeze

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Here was a video from when I just got it working https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879484719383855117/883269558989910036/Auto_Draw.mp4

▶ Play video

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before the delay, so paint would freeze. That would cause it to mess up sometimes.

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I also had it skip every other pixel so it looks... odd.

odd sluice Sep 3, 2021, 12:57 PM

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thorny wigeon I made an auto draw script (original image is the right)

visual studio code is now a glorified image viewer KEKA

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 12:58 PM

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I didn't even know it could ~~render~~ show images until earlier this morning when I made the script.

odd sluice Sep 3, 2021, 12:58 PM

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lmao

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i didnt even know at all

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 12:59 PM

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I wonder about video

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I must try

odd sluice Sep 3, 2021, 12:59 PM

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if you can do it and it's a wanted feature there's probably an extension for it

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 1:00 PM

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Looks like you cannot natively

odd sluice Sep 3, 2021, 1:00 PM

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ah ok

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 1:00 PM

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Oh

dire siren Sep 3, 2021, 1:01 PM

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latent scaffold I only know angy sugar

salt die

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 1:05 PM

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I'm going to try to make my drawing script do color now... maybe 8 - 16 colors idk

shy haven Sep 3, 2021, 1:55 PM

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I want something to learn but idk what

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nooowhy

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Send help

tender smelt Sep 3, 2021, 1:57 PM

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learn rust

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 2:14 PM

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thorny wigeon Oh

it requires premium version iirc

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\👀

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 2:15 PM

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solemn leaf it requires premium version iirc

yes 👀

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 2:16 PM

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solemn leaf \👀

what was the way to get this emotes

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 2:16 PM

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backslash

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before emote

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 2:16 PM

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ah

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\👀

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 2:17 PM

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solemn leaf it requires premium version iirc

It works

odd sluice Sep 3, 2021, 2:20 PM

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thorny wigeon It works

you have spotify prem hmm

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 2:21 PM

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odd sluice Sep 3, 2021, 2:21 PM

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damn

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Cool

floral egret Sep 3, 2021, 2:29 PM

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hi, is anyone free to help me out with my assignment about my project idea, im kinda struggle at choosing the tools and techologies to try to create it, it just idea doesnt have to be 100% accurate ;=;

odd sluice Sep 3, 2021, 2:36 PM

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whats ur idea

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 2:37 PM

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Ey up

floral egret Sep 3, 2021, 2:38 PM

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i took the inspiration from supercook app, where we can type in what ingredients we have and they will make us a recipe out of it @odd sluice

dire siren Sep 3, 2021, 2:39 PM

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solemn leaf it requires premium version iirc

ah sorry i misread that "rust requires premium version iirc"

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 2:39 PM

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bruh

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 2:39 PM

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premium rust.. Fe2O3.xH20

royal lakeBOT Sep 3, 2021, 2:39 PM

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:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @solemn leaf until <t:1630680598:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: newlines rule: sent 106 newlines in 10s).

dire siren Sep 3, 2021, 2:40 PM

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👀

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poor oreo.

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!paste next time

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quick ledge Sep 3, 2021, 2:40 PM

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!unmute 722075505230348358

royal lakeBOT Sep 3, 2021, 2:40 PM

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:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: pardoned infraction mute for @solemn leaf.

dire siren Sep 3, 2021, 2:40 PM

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yay

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 2:40 PM

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what did oreo even do

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 2:41 PM

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i am sorry lmfao

dire siren Sep 3, 2021, 2:41 PM

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spare lance what did oreo even do

message too much new lines

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 2:41 PM

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119 lines tf lmao

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 2:41 PM

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that was an embed

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 2:41 PM

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solemn leaf that was an embed

ah ohkay

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 2:41 PM

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dire siren message too much new lines

true true

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 2:41 PM

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was testing geometric progression beauty

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lol

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 2:42 PM

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solemn leaf was testing geometric progression beauty

why would u do that 😔

dire siren Sep 3, 2021, 2:42 PM

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solemn leaf was testing geometric progression beauty

that looks like a knife but the handle broke

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 2:43 PM

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dire siren that looks like a knife but the handle broke

lmao

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Not beautiful

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 2:43 PM

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gps are not meant for stuff with more common ratios other than 1/2,1,2

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 2:43 PM

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spare lance why would u do that 😔

testing how true is maths

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 2:43 PM

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spare lance gps are not meant for stuff with more common ratios other than 1/2,1,2

it is 1/2 in that case

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a = 1/2 , r = 1/2 lol

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 2:43 PM

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solemn leaf it is 1/2 in that case

3/2*

dire siren Sep 3, 2021, 2:43 PM

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solemn leaf testing how true is maths

eh sorry they are all "true" because no 0 there no false

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 2:43 PM

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spare lance 3/2*

brainmon 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 .... infinity

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 2:44 PM

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oh wait

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that way

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yes

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true

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 2:44 PM

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dire siren eh sorry they are all "true" because no 0 there no false

lol

odd sluice Sep 3, 2021, 2:46 PM

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dire siren eh sorry they are all "true" because no 0 there no false

a = 0 r = infinity try this gp Bro

raven birch Sep 3, 2021, 3:17 PM

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love the channelname

bold moat Sep 3, 2021, 3:18 PM

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checkmark

raven birch Sep 3, 2021, 3:18 PM

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solemn leaf <:brainmon:439516188771483658> 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 .... infinity

i mgiht be stupid, but wouldn't that approach 1 instead of infinity?

bold moat Sep 3, 2021, 3:19 PM

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that would in fact approach one

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wait

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woulkd it?

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it would keep adding a small amount so id say yes

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but then again

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oh god my brain hurts

acoustic moss Sep 3, 2021, 3:23 PM

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raven birch i mgiht be stupid, but wouldn't that approach 1 instead of infinity?

yeah, oreo's just saying that you sum to infinite terms to get to 1

acoustic moss Sep 3, 2021, 3:24 PM

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bold moat woulkd it?

yes

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but just because the terms keep getting smaller doesn't mean the sum approaches a finite value

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1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4... doesn't have a limit, for example

bold moat Sep 3, 2021, 3:25 PM

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acoustic moss but just because the terms keep getting smaller doesn't mean the sum approaches ...

yeah it really messes my brain up

raven birch Sep 3, 2021, 3:33 PM

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acoustic moss 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4... doesn't have a limit, for example

the harmonic series, that's really quite something for me to wrap my brain around

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it makes sense mathematically, but my head doesn't like the concept of a series getting infinitely smaller and yet still adding up to bigger and bigger numbers

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 3:45 PM

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solemn leaf was testing geometric progression beauty

@raven birch yes thats what i did , it approaches 1

acoustic moss Sep 3, 2021, 3:48 PM

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raven birch it makes sense mathematically, but my head doesn't like the concept of a series ...

yeah, on one hand the terms are getting smaller but on the other hand there's an infinite number of terms

raven birch Sep 3, 2021, 3:49 PM

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just tried doing this with the harmonic series, because why not

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this would be absolute torture as a loading bar, it loads slower the further it gets

acoustic moss Sep 3, 2021, 3:50 PM

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loll

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i wonder how many terms you'd need to even get to 10

raven birch Sep 3, 2021, 3:52 PM

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i got to 12

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but 13 is just painful

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i just realised, this would make for an interesting CPU benchmark

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since it would be a logarithmic(?) scale

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a score of 14 would be significantly higher than 13

acoustic moss Sep 3, 2021, 3:54 PM

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lol its 12k terms for 10, quarter of a million for 13

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hmm lemme plot this

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solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 4:01 PM

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wait is it possible to make a dynamic graph

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which keeps changing while the loop is running 🤔

edgy crest Sep 3, 2021, 4:02 PM

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ye

acoustic moss Sep 3, 2021, 4:02 PM

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yes but

edgy crest Sep 3, 2021, 4:02 PM

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its even possible with matplotlib afaik

acoustic moss Sep 3, 2021, 4:03 PM

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having IO in a hot loop would make it considerably slow

gritty zinc Sep 3, 2021, 4:03 PM

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yup, it can be done with matplotlib

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 4:03 PM

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cool

gritty zinc Sep 3, 2021, 4:03 PM

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you need to be careful with it IIRC if you're drawing a lot of stuff to avoid redrawing stuff you don't need to redraw

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but just to edit a plot of, like, 15 points, it's not hard

solemn leaf Sep 3, 2021, 4:04 PM

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hm

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it will depend on the processor clock then

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the speed

acoustic moss Sep 3, 2021, 4:07 PM

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gritty zinc Sep 3, 2021, 4:11 PM

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Rust on debug

Took 0.000001764s to reach 1, 1 iterations.
Took 0.000023909s more (0.00002586s in total) to reach 2.083333333333333, 4 iterations.
Took 0.000008563s more (0.000033384s in total) to reach 3.0198773448773446, 11 iterations.
Took 0.000007169s more (0.000039763s in total) to reach 4.02724519543652, 31 iterations.
Took 0.0000071s more (0.000045597s in total) to reach 5.002068272680166, 83 iterations.
Took 0.000007231s more (0.000051997s in total) to reach 6.004366708345567, 227 iterations.
Took 0.000016158s more (0.000067087s in total) to reach 7.001274097134162, 616 iterations.
Took 0.000012112s more (0.000078213s in total) to reach 8.000485571995782, 1674 iterations.
Took 0.000023013s more (0.000100225s in total) to reach 9.000208062931115, 4550 iterations.
Took 0.000050993s more (0.000150451s in total) to reach 10.000043008275778, 12367 iterations.
Took 0.000126388s more (0.000275671s in total) to reach 11.000017708636419, 33617 iterations.
Took 0.000273558s more (0.000547992s in total) to reach 12.000003051665617, 91380 iterations.
Took 0.000687847s more (0.001234975s in total) to reach 13.000001229480933, 248397 iterations.
Took 0.001817176s more (0.003051323s in total) to reach 14.000001362053249, 675214 iterations.
Took 0.004899324s more (0.007949849s in total) to reach 15.000000378267234, 1835421 iterations.
Took 0.012992333s more (0.020941392s in total) to reach 16.00000009545252, 4989191 iterations.
Took 0.035159487s more (0.056100043s in total) to reach 17.000000014847732, 13562027 iterations.
Took 0.109465132s more (0.165565208s in total) to reach 18.00000000371793, 36865412 iterations.
Took 0.355995022s more (0.521558351s in total) to reach 19.000000009732037, 100210581 iterations.
Took 0.895401003s more (1.416957426s in total) to reach 20.000000001618233, 272400600 iterations.
Took 2.972883484s more (4.389839074s in total) to reach 21.000000000402316, 740461601 iterations.

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https://paste.pythondiscord.com/okuviqigeg.py
and on release

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the ratio between the counts approaches e, so it closely tracks e^x with some coeffs

acoustic moss Sep 3, 2021, 4:15 PM

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wait what

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wdym ratio between counts

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oh

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4:11, 11:31, 31:83, ...?

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dang that do be approaching e

In [31]: 2012783315 / 740461601
Out[31]: 2.718281828904724

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 4:20 PM

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acoustic moss dang that do be approaching e ```py In [31]: 2012783315 / 740461601 Out[31]: 2.7...

2.7.. thats e

edgy crest Sep 3, 2021, 4:22 PM

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hypergrant

edgy crest Sep 3, 2021, 4:22 PM

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spare lance 2.7.. thats e

my min would be 2.718

spare lance Sep 3, 2021, 4:24 PM

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edgy crest my min would be 2.718

~~i am more of a physics follower~~

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e=pi=rootg=3

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my motto lemon_pensive

edgy crest Sep 3, 2021, 4:25 PM

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🔫

gritty zinc Sep 3, 2021, 4:27 PM

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    def normal_form(self) -> Total:
        terms = []
        for term in self.terms:
            terms.extend(term.normal_form().terms)
        Total(terms=terms)

quiz:

What's wrong here?
What language have I been using lately?

thick osprey Sep 3, 2021, 4:29 PM

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Could you say your python is a bit.... rusty? rooCool

sand inlet Sep 3, 2021, 4:29 PM

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@vale sedge

The following restrictions apply to your use of the Service. You are not allowed to:

access, reproduce, download, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, alter, modify or otherwise use any part of the Service or any Content except: (a) as specifically permitted by the Service; (b) with prior written permission from YouTube and, if applicable, the respective rights holders; or (c) as permitted by applicable law;

access the Service using any automated means (such as robots, botnets or scrapers) except: (a) in the case of public search engines, in accordance with YouTube’s robots.txt file; (b) with YouTube’s prior written permission; or (c) as permitted by applicable law;

use the Service to view or listen to Content other than for personal, non-commercial use (for example, you may not publicly screen videos or stream music from the Service)

edgy crest Sep 3, 2021, 4:30 PM

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gritty zinc ```py def normal_form(self) -> Total: terms = [] for term in...

whats wrong here?

sand inlet Sep 3, 2021, 4:30 PM

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tl;dr accessing youtube automatically is pretty much always not allowed

gritty zinc Sep 3, 2021, 4:31 PM

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edgy crest whats wrong here?

Lacks return.

edgy crest Sep 3, 2021, 4:31 PM

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ah

vale sedge Sep 3, 2021, 4:31 PM

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I remember downloading some music from some random website some years ago so I'll just use them instead, thanks though @sand inlet

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 4:35 PM

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My auto draw script does full color now. I had to cut a lot of corners for speed sake though, I'll just call it purposefully stylized.

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What style would you call that?

edgy crest Sep 3, 2021, 4:37 PM

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plus hatch

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or square hatch

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 4:38 PM

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Each dot is perfectly far apart from each other if you open the full image

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Well, that was pretty fun.

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wheat lynx Sep 3, 2021, 4:51 PM

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thorny wigeon What style would you call that?

Guess it's a bit mosiac-y. Very cool!

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 4:51 PM

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I could have it do it pixel perfect, but I would be here all day

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It would be pretty interesting to see someone do this in another language (maybe C++, Rust, etc) and see if they can make it any faster.

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The bottom one took around 6 - 8 minutes (I wasn't really paying attention)

inland wolf Sep 3, 2021, 4:54 PM

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thorny wigeon It would be pretty interesting to see someone do this in another language (maybe...

u should try it in c++ which has direct access to the windows api

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that would be interesting

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 4:54 PM

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I would if I knew C++

inland wolf Sep 3, 2021, 4:54 PM

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bro if u can make this

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u can learn c++

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or atleast the parts u need to make an equivalent in c++

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 4:54 PM

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I mean, I can, but if I try to learn more than one language at once I will die.

inland wolf Sep 3, 2021, 4:55 PM

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i mean u dont have to

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just sayin

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 4:55 PM

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yeah

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Actually.... I just remembered, I slowed it on purpose because mspaint was freezing if I went too fast and some other issues...

inland wolf Sep 3, 2021, 4:56 PM

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and btw

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if u ever try out c++ for this project of urs

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just google winuser.h

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it has all the things u need to move mouse and stuff

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 4:58 PM

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I will look into it if I decide to try C++

inland wolf Sep 3, 2021, 4:58 PM

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ight

inland wolf Sep 3, 2021, 4:58 PM

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thorny wigeon Actually.... I just remembered, I slowed it on purpose because mspaint was freez...

the only problem with being faster than light is that you can only live in darkness

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 5:08 PM

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This is as fast as I can get it to go without mspaint shitting the bed and mixing colors together (streaks of one color)

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Like watching an image load on windows XP + dialup

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Here is with no delays, mspaint dies.

inland wolf Sep 3, 2021, 5:14 PM

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yo

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thast cool

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 5:22 PM

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business

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using different brushes is also cool.

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latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 6:00 PM

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meow

calm dawn Sep 3, 2021, 6:51 PM

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Does this string of seemingly random Unicode look like any sort of known data to anyone? It's happening some time between print('') and print('\x1b[25h', end='').

class ansiManager():
    def __init__(self):
        pass

    def __enter__(self):
        if sys.platform == 'win32':
            print(ansi.conhostEnableANSI(), end='')
        print(ansi.clear.entireScreen(), end='')
        print('\x1b[?25l', end='')    # Hide cursor

    def __exit__(self, *args):
        print('')
        print('\x1b[25h', end='')     # Show cursor
        print('ANSI manager: Cursor showing.')
        print('\x1b[39;49m')            # Reset colors
        print('ANSI manager: Colors reset.')

I don't need help fixing it right away, I was just curious if this meant anything.

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It's different every time, but always between that blank print and the ANSI to re-enable the cursor.

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gritty zinc Sep 3, 2021, 6:54 PM

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I'd look at what the raw bytes look like when not encoded, maybe it's some struct?

calm dawn Sep 3, 2021, 6:54 PM

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idk

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it's relatively patterned at least

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and nowhere in my code do I intentionally print that out.

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that snippet I posted is the only thing printing when it runs

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@gritty zinc here's a hexdump

latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 7:02 PM

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calm dawn It's different every time, but always between that blank print and the ANSI to r...

I might suggest trying another terminal

calm dawn Sep 3, 2021, 7:03 PM

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It's Windows conhost, would rather not change it up.

latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 7:03 PM

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I'd have figured the opposite

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conhost has absolute garbage support

calm dawn Sep 3, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Something I notice is several repetitions in the most recent dump of 0x5852EFBFBDE2

calm dawn Sep 3, 2021, 7:04 PM

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latent scaffold conhost has absolute garbage support

Conhost has the advantage of when I do Win + R and type pwsh I get PowerShell 7 in conhost. If I were to use a different terminal for everything I have no clue how I'd get Windows to accept it as the default terminal.

latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 7:06 PM

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You just change it from "Windows Console Host" over to Windows Terminal

calm dawn Sep 3, 2021, 7:06 PM

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ech, "Windows Terminal"

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the other thing is that I simply haven't found a terminal emulator I like

latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Surely you don't prefer conhost over Windows Terminal

calm dawn Sep 3, 2021, 7:08 PM

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I dislike tabs

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a lot

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tbh I would rather use a physical teletype

latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 7:11 PM

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Well, there's Alacritty

calm dawn Sep 3, 2021, 7:13 PM

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I'll look at it

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That actually looks pretty good, I may try it.

latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 7:20 PM

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It's what I typically use on Linux

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You can change the default shell of Alacritty, but I don't think there's a way to make it the default terminal for any shell

honest pawn Sep 3, 2021, 7:21 PM

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I have an important question for you all

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Would gaining a third eye grant you greater field of view?

latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 7:22 PM

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I wouldn't think so

honest pawn Sep 3, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Ok
Then how do I justify a greater fov?

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Goggles placed further apart?

latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 7:23 PM

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eyes placed further apart lol

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like a fish

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Eyes on the sides of your head

honest pawn Sep 3, 2021, 7:25 PM

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Periscope it is

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thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 7:29 PM

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like that

latent scaffold Sep 3, 2021, 7:35 PM

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Face reveal???

lost vortex Sep 3, 2021, 8:24 PM

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here is my discord bot. turns discord into minecraft

graceful basin Sep 3, 2021, 8:24 PM

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doesn't seem to work very well

lost vortex Sep 3, 2021, 8:25 PM

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lightmode xqcWut

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 8:25 PM

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lost vortex Sep 3, 2021, 8:25 PM

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ugghh

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guess it only works on the grey theme

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lemon_angrysad

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 8:26 PM

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It just looks like the lighting bug where shadows are solid black.

lost vortex Sep 3, 2021, 8:26 PM

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true haha

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havent touched minecraft in 3+ years, everything is probably changed now

thorny wigeon Sep 3, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Eh, I doubt it.

frail badge Sep 3, 2021, 10:54 PM

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1.18 update gonna change everything

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also the nether is completely different

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same with oceans

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and villagers r very good

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idk

harsh tundra Sep 3, 2021, 11:08 PM

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frail badge 1.18 update gonna change everything

There already was one update called like that

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That's around when I was originally playing a bit

frail badge Sep 3, 2021, 11:30 PM

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no that is 1.8

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1.18 is like the next mc update

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 11:33 PM

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unity discussion here

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@fickle dirge https://itch.io/games/made-with-unity/tag-racing

itch.io

Top Racing games made with Unity

Explore Racing games made with Unity on itch.io

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either way i would like to save you some time by telling you not to even begin to develop games

fickle dirge Sep 3, 2021, 11:35 PM

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why not?

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 11:35 PM

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unless you want to commit several years of your time

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it's steep learning curve

fickle dirge Sep 3, 2021, 11:36 PM

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oh

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what is a good project i can work on

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then

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 11:36 PM

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websites of all sorts i guess

fickle dirge Sep 3, 2021, 11:36 PM

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in python

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 11:36 PM

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oh

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idk, ask around in #python-discussion

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i work with c#

fickle dirge Sep 3, 2021, 11:37 PM

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oh

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ok

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thanks tho

rough sapphire Sep 3, 2021, 11:37 PM

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np

next thistle Sep 4, 2021, 12:25 AM

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hi

harsh tundra Sep 4, 2021, 12:26 AM

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frail badge no that is 1.8

that's why I said "was" and "when I was originally playing"
I was just pointing out that there were already "huge", "world-changing" updates

bold moat Sep 4, 2021, 1:29 AM

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graceful basin doesn't seem to work very well

HAHA

bold moat Sep 4, 2021, 1:30 AM

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harsh tundra There already was one update called like that

nop, 1.18 will change almost everything about mc terrain generation

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it'll become BEAUTIFUL

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world max height will incerease

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and min height will also decrease?

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ig

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yes

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now

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instead of 0 to 256 you have

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-64 to 320

latent scaffold Sep 4, 2021, 3:01 AM

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why those numbers D:

odd sluice Sep 4, 2021, 3:13 AM

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latent scaffold why those numbers D:

because mojang didnt want to extend the height to 384

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so they kinda cheated by increasing the depth too

latent scaffold Sep 4, 2021, 3:13 AM

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um...

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okay then

odd sluice Sep 4, 2021, 3:13 AM

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also have you seen the new caves

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i personally feel tiny. lost.

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look how large they are

latent scaffold Sep 4, 2021, 3:17 AM

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Nah

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I've not played Minecraft in ages

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I'll probably play with my brother when 1.18 releases

odd sluice Sep 4, 2021, 3:17 AM

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you should

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they've changed a lot

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and the new mountains

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it looks like they'll extend up to 256

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that's the old build limit

latent scaffold Sep 4, 2021, 3:22 AM

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idk, I never reached 256 anyways

odd sluice Sep 4, 2021, 3:25 AM

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latent scaffold idk, I never reached 256 anyways

that doesnt matter
mountains look massive now

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not the "small" ones that existed

latent scaffold Sep 4, 2021, 3:25 AM

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ehh we'll see

odd sluice Sep 4, 2021, 3:26 AM

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shaders 1.18 from google images

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that looks good

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bad if you fall though

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hahaCouldntBeMe

dire siren Sep 4, 2021, 3:30 AM

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damn

frail badge Sep 4, 2021, 4:22 AM

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harsh tundra that's why I said "was" and "when I was originally playing" I was just pointing ...

yeah ik
im just saying that 1.18 is gonna change a lot of generation
i thought you meant there waas an update called 1.18 (and i thought you meant 1.8)

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they look so good :O

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whaat does shipit mean again

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like "ship it"

acoustic moss Sep 4, 2021, 4:26 AM

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shipit

frail badge Sep 4, 2021, 4:26 AM

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so like ship your package or smth?

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or is it that detective squirrel

odd sluice Sep 4, 2021, 4:31 AM

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frail badge so like ship your package or smth?

clapping

frail badge Sep 4, 2021, 4:38 AM

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izzit?

odd sluice Sep 4, 2021, 4:39 AM

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definitely ok

gleaming gull Sep 4, 2021, 5:24 AM

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Is it ok to name a command update bot just because it calls my custom app Api to fetch a new version and auto deploy

odd sluice Sep 4, 2021, 6:58 AM

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damn wow

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pretty sure that's appropriate

thorny wigeon Sep 4, 2021, 11:04 AM

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gleaming gull Is it ok to name a command update bot just because it calls my custom app Api to...

I have something similar, doesn't really matter what you call it. I just have the command called "reload".

wintry fractal Sep 4, 2021, 12:46 PM

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how can i send msg like this ??? like i have my own bot

viscid hemlock Sep 4, 2021, 12:47 PM

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Those are called embeds

wintry fractal Sep 4, 2021, 12:48 PM

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viscid hemlock Those are called embeds

like how can i send like this

honest pawn Sep 4, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Humans cannot send embeds

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Bots can use discord.Embed

wintry fractal Sep 4, 2021, 12:48 PM

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no i have my own bot

honest pawn Sep 4, 2021, 12:48 PM

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!d discord.Embed

royal lakeBOT Sep 4, 2021, 12:48 PM

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discord.Embed


class discord.Embed(**kwargs)```
Represents a Discord embed.

`len(x)` Returns the total size of the embed. Useful for checking if it’s within the 6000 character limit.

Certain properties return an `EmbedProxy`, a type that acts similar to a regular [`dict`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#dict "(in Python v3.9)") except using dotted access, e.g. `embed.author.icon_url`. If the attribute is invalid or empty, then a special sentinel value is returned, [`Embed.Empty`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Embed.Empty "discord.Embed.Empty").

For ease of use, all parameters that expect a [`str`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#str "(in Python v3.9)") are implicitly casted to [`str`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#str "(in Python v3.9)") for you.

wintry fractal Sep 4, 2021, 12:48 PM

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honest pawn Bots can use discord.Embed

ohhhhhhhk

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ohhhhk

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thank u so much

honest pawn Sep 4, 2021, 12:49 PM

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Np

dire siren Sep 4, 2021, 2:52 PM

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how do i set default path for wt (win term)

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i dont want to start up and type infinite cds

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or long cds

graceful basin Sep 4, 2021, 2:53 PM

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you could put a Set-Location into your $PROFILE

dire siren Sep 4, 2021, 2:53 PM

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alright

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is that a environment variable?

graceful basin Sep 4, 2021, 2:59 PM

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it's a powershell command

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I have a rough memory of a way existing in the settings, but I am not sure

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could also modify the command that launches the profile to use the pwd you want

dire siren Sep 4, 2021, 3:01 PM

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graceful basin it's a powershell command

oh thanks.

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found another way is to modify windows terminal's settings json

ancient minnow Sep 4, 2021, 4:16 PM

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hey so i want to make my python code faster

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i already used multiprocessing

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but i was thinking maybe i could precompile my python script or some other way?

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i have looked at cython but then i would have to rewrite all my code

spare lance Sep 4, 2021, 4:24 PM

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dire siren how do i set default path for wt (win term)

settings >> open with directory

tardy rain Sep 4, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Just dump cd whatever path into your profile script

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Like what lak said

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But i think $Profile is Microsoft.Profile.ps1, not necessarily what you might want

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Sorry its Microsoft.Powershell_profile.ps1

golden blade Sep 4, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Hmmm

inland wolf Sep 4, 2021, 4:41 PM

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dire siren how do i set default path for wt (win term)

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oh

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i am blind

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yet again

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funny

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wait

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what do u mean by win term

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windows terminal or something else?

spare lance Sep 4, 2021, 4:44 PM

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inland wolf windows terminal or something else?

i think windows terminal

gilded shell Sep 4, 2021, 7:13 PM

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Anyone else here with ADHD? I'm trying to do more projects but it's so easy to get distracted and wander off into lalaland until either I get too intimidated to finish or scope creep eats me alive lol

daring sonnet Sep 4, 2021, 11:30 PM

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gilded shell Anyone else here with ADHD? I'm trying to do more projects but it's so easy to g...

I was suspect long time ago but I am still thinking that it was a mistake 😂

gilded shell Sep 4, 2021, 11:40 PM

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I got diagnosed about a year ago and I'm still trying to get adjusted to the meds and all that and I was curious to see if y'all have anything ya did that particularly helped

oblique raven Sep 5, 2021, 12:41 AM

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gilded shell Anyone else here with ADHD? I'm trying to do more projects but it's so easy to g...

Well we're not supposed to give medical advice, however for my case I may have a case of ADD (still trying to see about getting it confirmed) and I found that chewing gum actually helped me with focusing in math / just class in general

gilded shell Sep 5, 2021, 12:43 AM

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Oh, dw, I wasn't looking for medical advice, I was more looking for things like that. I've also noticed something similar; I have a weird way of always being chewing or drinking something. I might have to try that

oblique raven Sep 5, 2021, 12:51 AM

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honestly I'd be surprised if I didn't have ADD

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I find myself messing with my airpods case and like, forgetting someone's talking to me in class

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ironically enough I pay attention in the classes I like lol

hoary orbit Sep 5, 2021, 6:00 AM

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sms_dtm <- DocumentTermMatrix(corpus_clean)

after running above code in r studio I am getting
"Error in simple_triplet_matrix(i, j, v, nrow = length(terms), ncol = length(corpus), :
'i, j' invalid"
anyone please help me

odd sluice Sep 5, 2021, 6:00 AM

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pls dont multipost

latent scaffold Sep 5, 2021, 6:12 AM

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shotgunning

round rose Sep 5, 2021, 7:58 AM

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gilded shell Oh, dw, I wasn't looking for medical advice, I was more looking for things like ...

Chewing and drinking are forms of stimming, they are often helpful in staying focused

frail badge Sep 5, 2021, 4:43 PM

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computer ftw

rough sapphire Sep 5, 2021, 5:57 PM

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i like pycharm

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i don't like vscode

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Pycharm is great just too heavy

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And I constantly use a handful of different languages so vs code fits me really well

rough sapphire Sep 5, 2021, 5:58 PM

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yes, they should get noble prize

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 5:58 PM

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That and emacs, but I use emacs less and less these days

rough sapphire Sep 5, 2021, 5:58 PM

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i don't know about emac 🙂

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 5:58 PM

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I don't recommend it unless you need an editor that's terminal based

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It's like vim in that regard, but with sensibility and usability, also far more extensible

spare lance Sep 5, 2021, 5:59 PM

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emacs is a hard to understand editor.. preferable to stay away 👀

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 5:59 PM

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I wouldn't really call it hard to understand

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Not when vim is its only real competitor

spare lance Sep 5, 2021, 6:00 PM

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terminal editor as a whole confuse me sometimes.. like i mean why terminal editor when other ones do exist 👀

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except that they might be light

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:01 PM

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https://github.com/codebizarre/awoo-emacs I ended up making my own config at least

GitHub

GitHub - CodeBizarre/awoo-emacs: An Emacs config to howl about!

An Emacs config to howl about! Contribute to CodeBizarre/awoo-emacs development by creating an account on GitHub.

spare lance Sep 5, 2021, 6:01 PM

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quite light for the matter

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:01 PM

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spare lance terminal editor as a whole confuse me sometimes.. like i mean why terminal edit...

My case was that I constantly needed to edit stuff over ssh, or on headless servers in person

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And vs code wasn't quite there with remote yet

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However, it is now

rough sapphire Sep 5, 2021, 6:02 PM

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uneven pine https://github.com/codebizarre/awoo-emacs I ended up making my own config at lea...

Does GitHub auto-generates this background photo?

spare lance Sep 5, 2021, 6:02 PM

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uneven pine I wouldn't really call it hard to understand

harder than normal editors or even full fledged ides in some case.. i mean the commands take some time to familiarize with 👀

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:02 PM

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And if you have a really crappy computer, emacs uses about 1/10th the ram of VS Code

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:02 PM

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rough sapphire Does GitHub auto-generates this background photo?

Yeah

rough sapphire Sep 5, 2021, 6:02 PM

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Looks fantastic.

spare lance Sep 5, 2021, 6:02 PM

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uneven pine My case was that I constantly needed to edit stuff over ssh, or on headless serv...

ah ohkay.. also wdym headless servers 👀

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:02 PM

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spare lance harder than normal editors or even full fledged ides in some case.. i mean the c...

I would say that emacs is about equal to vs code or atom to learn

harsh tundra Sep 5, 2021, 6:03 PM

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uneven pine https://github.com/codebizarre/awoo-emacs I ended up making my own config at lea...

awoo logo_emacs
Your repo name works nicely with my emoji sets

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:03 PM

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spare lance ah ohkay.. also wdym `headless servers` 👀

Servers with no display/desktop

spare lance Sep 5, 2021, 6:03 PM

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uneven pine Servers with no display/desktop

ah ohkay.. wait how did you see the code then? or just trust your typing? 👀

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:03 PM

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SSH or a small monitor I hook up

harsh tundra Sep 5, 2021, 6:04 PM

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spare lance terminal editor as a whole confuse me sometimes.. like i mean why terminal edit...

I use vi all the time when I need to adjust something on the server

spare lance Sep 5, 2021, 6:04 PM

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ah ohkay

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Vi is great if you need to do like a 2 line edit

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But at that point I use nano

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Because it's easier

harsh tundra Sep 5, 2021, 6:04 PM

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uneven pine Vi is great if you need to do like a 2 line edit

Ye, I don't use more

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:04 PM

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And makes more sense

spare lance Sep 5, 2021, 6:04 PM

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so i can procrastinate using vim till i actually start messing with servers huh

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sounds fair enough

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:05 PM

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And then use emacs instead

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Or just use vs code remote

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That's the best option

harsh tundra Sep 5, 2021, 6:05 PM

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uneven pine Because it's easier

I only use basic vi functionality for that, and having separate viewing and editing modes is nice not to accidentally do something... And the search in long files is nicd

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:05 PM

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View and edit mode is horrific imo. Your editor shouldn't make it easy to accidentally do sobering

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Something*

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Vim does and that's one of the reasons it's garbage

spare lance Sep 5, 2021, 6:06 PM

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uneven pine Or just use vs code remote

hmm i havent seen what that is lol

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:06 PM

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spare lance hmm i havent seen what that is lol

There's an extension you can use to extend the built-in WSL support to just work with regular SSH to any server

harsh tundra Sep 5, 2021, 6:06 PM

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uneven pine View and edit mode is horrific imo. Your editor shouldn't make it easy to accide...

I prefer not being able to write if I don't want to write, so we're completely different in that matter :)

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:07 PM

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So you get full file access, full VS Code, including language server support if you install it on your server

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And you can save your connections just like any other ssh client

spare lance Sep 5, 2021, 6:07 PM

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uneven pine There's an extension you can use to extend the built-in WSL support to just work...

ahh ohkayy

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:07 PM

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The built-in terminal in vs code also just instantly works through ssh

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It's truly perfect

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I was previously using bitvise but now that vsc has gotten to this point I don't at all anymore

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I still keep emacs around

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Cause sometimes I'll just use PowerShell to connect to ssh really quick and realize I want to edit something

spare lance Sep 5, 2021, 6:17 PM

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uneven pine Cause sometimes I'll just use PowerShell to connect to ssh really quick and real...

ah damn ssh stuff always seems alien to me 😔

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so does nano

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 6:17 PM

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The barrier to entry is high but once you get it, it's easy

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Nano is simple... It's notepad with colors in terminal

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All the key binds are displayed at the bottom constantly

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So you never have to look it up :p

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Driving brb

spare lance Sep 5, 2021, 6:18 PM

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ah well yeah hmm right i messed up read bad with nano during the github thing

spare lance Sep 5, 2021, 6:19 PM

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uneven pine Driving brb

sheesh dont use phone while driving.. i mean how do yall guys do that.. i cannot get free hand to use phone while driving

harsh tundra Sep 5, 2021, 6:29 PM

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spare lance sheesh dont use phone while driving.. i mean how do yall guys do that.. i cannot...

that's why she said brb

tender smelt Sep 5, 2021, 6:30 PM

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probably while they were stopped at a red or something

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 7:26 PM

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spare lance sheesh dont use phone while driving.. i mean how do yall guys do that.. i cannot...

I don't use my phone while driving... Hence me saying brb and not talking for an hour

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I wasn't stopped at a red I was just getting in my car :p

wild yarrow Sep 5, 2021, 9:15 PM

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harsh tundra that's why she said brb

😎

harsh tundra Sep 5, 2021, 9:21 PM

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wild yarrow 😎

?

wild yarrow Sep 5, 2021, 9:22 PM

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idk

harsh tundra Sep 5, 2021, 9:24 PM

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how you don't know what you meant when you were the one who replied?

patent granite Sep 5, 2021, 9:54 PM

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yo

floral apex Sep 5, 2021, 10:39 PM

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harsh tundra I prefer not being able to write if I don't want to write, so we're completely d...

I'm just overwhelmed by the Vi family and Emacs too and decided to not bother, so I went with a less overwhelming terminal based text editor called micro

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 10:49 PM

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micro is alright, it's more like nano than vi/emacs though

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it also uses completely different keybinds, that aren't immediately obvious

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so I ended up just switching back to nano

tender smelt Sep 5, 2021, 10:50 PM

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you use nano? just use vim lol

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 10:50 PM

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when I need the power of vim, I use emacs

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vim's arcane and impossible for me to use effectively

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I just use nano when I need to quickly update a config or something over the terminal

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95% of the time I use vs code with the remote extension these days

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4% of the time when I need a terminal editor I use emacs

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and the other 1% is config edits with nano

tardy rain Sep 5, 2021, 10:53 PM

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Most of vim use comes down to moving across text, cutting/pasting text around and .

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Its not as impossible as people think it is

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 10:53 PM

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and lemme just ggY"*nna

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It's impossible for me

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I spent two weeks using nothing but vim for 2+ hours a day

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and by the end I was still less than 1/4 of the speed I can edit with VS code

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not once did I ever remember "Oh yes it's just these seven keys in a row to do the simple action I'm trying to do"

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In contrast to emacs I was up to near my equivalent editing ability in a couple of days

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if vim works for your brain, great

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but it's just not possible for me to learn it effectively

tardy rain Sep 5, 2021, 10:55 PM

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Vsc is nice but sometimes i wish i had gg and G

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And o/O

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 10:55 PM

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do the many available vim extensions not have that

tardy rain Sep 5, 2021, 10:55 PM

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They do but i dont actually want to use vim

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Modes are a pain imo

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 10:55 PM

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to a degree yeah

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specifically how vim handles it

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emacs modes are much friendlier

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but either way, now that VS Code Remote is to a point where it's bug free and works smoothly

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I have very little reason to ever use a terminal-based editor

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none of my computers are slow enough that VS Code is a problem

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even on the 4GB RAM NUC it runs fine with all my extensions

tardy rain Sep 5, 2021, 10:57 PM

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Vscode is just an all around awesome product

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Last week i found out i could diff files without an extension

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 10:58 PM

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yup

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for someone like me who also jumps around languages often, there's nothing better

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it's relatively speaking quite lightweight

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it's fast and easy even on low-spec systems

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the only other comparable editor is Atom and it's lacking about...half the features

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I currently run 47 installed extensions

floral apex Sep 5, 2021, 11:00 PM

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uneven pine micro is alright, it's more like nano than vi/emacs though

Yeah it's alright when I just need to do some minor edits, though I'll likely just use the WSL VS Code extension when I need a bit more

uneven pine Sep 5, 2021, 11:00 PM

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and with a large project open on python, including pylance running and stuff, it's only using about 260MB of RAM

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that's DAMN impressive considering the features that are running in that space

floral apex Sep 5, 2021, 11:01 PM

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I like multiroot workspaces

noble plaza Sep 6, 2021, 12:01 AM

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I switched to vim a couple of months ago and I like it so far. I find the biggest time-savers are simple tricks I use again and again - stuff like "delete through the next parenthesis" or "swap these two lines."

tender smelt Sep 6, 2021, 12:10 AM

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you need to swap things often?

noble plaza Sep 6, 2021, 12:27 AM

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Eh, sometimes.

spare lance Sep 6, 2021, 2:14 AM

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harsh tundra that's why she said brb

ah hmm ohkay yeah

spare lance Sep 6, 2021, 2:14 AM

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tender smelt probably while they were stopped at a red or something

that's what i assumed so 👀

spare lance Sep 6, 2021, 2:14 AM

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uneven pine I don't use my phone while driving... Hence me saying brb and not talking for an...

yeah mb sorry

thick osprey Sep 6, 2021, 2:49 AM

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Finally broke down and setup codecov into a workflow. Feels good.

reef geyser Sep 6, 2021, 2:57 AM

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#python-discussion message @acoustic moss

what do they do?

acoustic moss Sep 6, 2021, 2:57 AM

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A <: B is true if A is a subtype of B

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A >: B is true if A is a supertype

reef geyser Sep 6, 2021, 2:58 AM

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subtype NE_DuckHmm

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supertype huh

acoustic moss Sep 6, 2021, 2:58 AM

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i think its the same as subclass/superclass but the julia docs dont use the word class

mild abyss Sep 6, 2021, 2:59 AM

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acoustic moss `A >: B ` is true if A is a supertype

juliea?

reef geyser Sep 6, 2021, 2:59 AM

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yep

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"type" works I guess

acoustic moss Sep 6, 2021, 2:59 AM

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mild abyss juliea?

yee

mild abyss Sep 6, 2021, 2:59 AM

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who uses julia? it is a meme language

acoustic moss Sep 6, 2021, 2:59 AM

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wow

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time to get you banned there :schemin:

mild abyss Sep 6, 2021, 3:00 AM

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acoustic moss time to get you banned there :schemin:

:OOOOF:

reef geyser Sep 6, 2021, 3:00 AM

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being banned from the julia server lol

mild abyss Sep 6, 2021, 3:01 AM

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~~hey hsp dont tell anyone there. im just jokin :((~~

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:14 AM

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@thick osprey smh it's not hard

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I use it in modmail :D

thick osprey Sep 6, 2021, 4:14 AM

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I've never used it before rooHappy

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CI workflows are still super new to me rooDerp

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Ah

thick osprey Sep 6, 2021, 4:15 AM

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The nine straight hours of setting up a CircleCI workflow at work really helped me out though. Nothing is quite as complicated.

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:15 AM

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I have a lint-test workflows which runs four jobs to lint on both 3.8 and 3.9 (probably unnecessary in retrospect) and tests on both 3.8 and 3.9

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Once they're all complete it runs the discord status embed workflow

thick osprey Sep 6, 2021, 4:16 AM

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secretbox hits four versions, three OS targets. But that was a copy/pasta workflow. https://github.com/Preocts/secretbox/tree/main/.github/workflows

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but yeah, i'm unfamilier with workflows, docker, yaml, and the pieces between

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:17 AM

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hmmm

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I should add running tests on windows

thick osprey Sep 6, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Getting there though!

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:18 AM

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since if I support windows should probably be testing it yknow

thick osprey Sep 6, 2021, 4:18 AM

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sounds reasonable

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:18 AM

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just a tad

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man I am so fucking proud of a system I wrote a few months ago

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it lets me have 3 line commits to drastically change stuff

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that's a good thing too

thick osprey Sep 6, 2021, 4:19 AM

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config changes?

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:20 AM

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pretty much

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but dynamic configuration

thick osprey Sep 6, 2021, 4:20 AM

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How so?

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:21 AM

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looking for the specific commit

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while looking came across this

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eager trout Sep 6, 2021, 4:22 AM

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Bruh my own level is so hard to play

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:22 AM

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paginatot damnit

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:22 AM

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thick osprey How so?

https://github.com/discord-modmail/modmail/commit/005fdb51c159ff396423dfdb7af6847c8d81b18d

GitHub

chore: prevent plugin manager from being unloaded · discord-modmail...

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prevents the cog from being unloaded

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can be reloaded, but not unloaded

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a literal single line change

odd sluice Sep 6, 2021, 4:23 AM

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hmmmm

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:23 AM

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for reference, in @median dome this is hardcoded

odd sluice Sep 6, 2021, 4:23 AM

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if cog.name == whatever:

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pass

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isnt that it

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override the inbuilt unload extension

thick osprey Sep 6, 2021, 4:24 AM

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vapid nymph https://github.com/discord-modmail/modmail/commit/005fdb51c159ff396423dfdb7af684...

A good config option. rooGNOD

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:25 AM

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just wanna note in sir-lancebot its hardcoded https://github.com/python-discord/sir-lancebot/blob/b555de4a6668745878bb5a9d1dfd3a08539dd407/bot/exts/core/extensions.py#L21

royal lakeBOT Sep 6, 2021, 4:25 AM

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bot/exts/core/extensions.py line 21

UNLOAD_BLACKLIST = {f"{exts.__name__}.utils.extensions"}```

acoustic moss Sep 6, 2021, 4:25 AM

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pagnitatot

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:25 AM

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meanwhile the EXT_METADATA variable is legendary

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since it can store more information

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like, what modes that cog should load during

odd sluice Sep 6, 2021, 4:26 AM

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can someone please explain the structure of the bots

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i dont understand it at all

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:27 AM

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thick osprey A good config option. <a:rooGNOD:836823799986126859>

this is where that set variable is used 😛

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https://github.com/discord-modmail/modmail/blob/997a20cd15bffb7636a78c61f6046bad0a4751e4/modmail/utils/extensions.py#L68-L75

royal lakeBOT Sep 6, 2021, 4:27 AM

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modmail/utils/extensions.py lines 68 to 75

ext_metadata: ExtMetadata = getattr(imported, "EXT_METADATA", None)
if ext_metadata is not None:
    # check if this cog is dev only or plugin dev only
    load_cog = bool(int(ext_metadata.load_if_mode) & BOT_MODE)
    log.trace(f"Load cog {module.name!r}?: {load_cog}")
    no_unload = ext_metadata.no_unload
    yield module.name, (load_cog, no_unload)
    continue```

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:27 AM

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EXT_METADATA, if it exists, must be an instance of ExtMetadata

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right now it has two options, what mode, and if it is allowed to be unloaded

thick osprey Sep 6, 2021, 4:28 AM

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Clean, direct, and does the job. Easily pulled to the next layer if needed (config file) but living happily in the cog's global scope

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:28 AM

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there's three bot modes, Production, Developer, and Plugin

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this is a bitwise enum, so multiple modes can be enabled at once

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by default production is always on

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disabling that basically disables most stuff of the bot--don't disable it

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developer mode enables the extension manager command for dealing with the bot's own extensions

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and plugin_dev mode enables commands on the plugin manager for more precise dealings with plugin extensions

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I need to refactor plugins

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how plugins work are they are a folder which can contain any amount of extensions

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and from the user point of view, all of those files will be treated as one plugin

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:31 AM

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thick osprey Clean, direct, and does the job. Easily pulled to the next layer if needed (con...

it is my current favorite feature on the main branch Kek

thick osprey Sep 6, 2021, 4:32 AM

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Anything that does work for you is super good.

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My favorite features on two projects I created at work include the fact that they are heavily config driven. Need to change behavior? Edit the toml and done.

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:33 AM

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nice

thick osprey Sep 6, 2021, 4:33 AM

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Little things like that and what you made go underappreciated sometimes

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Makes "Hey, Team Whatever needs the verbiage of their status updates to be changed to include the source" from a 2 hour process for me into a 5 minute process. #Priceless

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That and, going full circle, the complete CI/CD pipeline I finally got working

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So be proud! Config changes that make life easy are freakin' awesome

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:38 AM

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yeppp

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:39 AM

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thick osprey So be proud! Config changes that make life easy are freakin' awesome

I just made some bot commands be disabled if the bot is not in plugin_dev mode

thick osprey Sep 6, 2021, 4:39 AM

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Without code changes, in a sense

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:42 AM

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yeah

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since I still want the cog to be loaded, but the user should not get the close commands without opting in

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:45 AM

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thick osprey Without code changes, in a sense

https://github.com/discord-modmail/modmail/commit/997a20cd15bffb7636a78c61f6046bad0a4751e4

GitHub

plugins: disable specific manager commands if plugin dev mode is di...

…bled

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basically, prevents the user from loading or unloading specific files of plugins

vapid nymph Sep 6, 2021, 4:46 AM

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vapid nymph and from the user point of view, all of those files will be treated as *one* plu...

since that goes against this view

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 5:46 AM

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@raven birch oh it's just my past warcriminal raid group self calling

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c h a o s l e g i o n

raven birch Sep 6, 2021, 5:47 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/664295201811988510.png?size=64

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 5:47 AM

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ohhh

worldly current Sep 6, 2021, 6:00 AM

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this is a rare image of sir lancebot accepting defeat

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 6:02 AM

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exposed? 😳

worldly current Sep 6, 2021, 6:03 AM

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its the code to make em say dat

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O_o

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im just abusing my commands

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lol

worldly current Sep 6, 2021, 6:03 AM

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latent scaffold

are you on opera gx

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hehehe

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 6:03 AM

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um. no

worldly current Sep 6, 2021, 6:03 AM

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hwo did u blur

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 6:04 AM

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ShareX

worldly current Sep 6, 2021, 6:04 AM

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bruh

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takes screenshot
goes to sharex to edit
finally after 15 years posts

mild abyss Sep 6, 2021, 6:25 AM

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many screenshot apps have that capability hmm

inland wolf Sep 6, 2021, 6:25 AM

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true

mild abyss Sep 6, 2021, 6:27 AM

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shore

tardy rain Sep 6, 2021, 10:47 AM

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How does one go about auditing a python package

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Context: trying to use an LGPL library in company code, before i ask any supervisor, is there an easy way to figure out if theres any security, licensing issues with the package?

viscid hemlock Sep 6, 2021, 10:57 AM

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Not really as far as I know

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Assuming you understand what being licensed under LGPL means for your project

tardy rain Sep 6, 2021, 11:05 AM

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Im not licensing expert, LGPL is gpl but for proprietary projects too afaik (?)

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I really should talk to my boss about this

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Im just trying to cut down on the questions i'll have for him

dire siren Sep 6, 2021, 11:10 AM

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lgpl is gpl but lighter

graceful basin Sep 6, 2021, 11:11 AM

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yeah, talk to your boss about this

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no one here is qualified to help you with whether LGPL can be used with no strings attached in your project

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since it is sadly a more complex license than just use it

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 12:14 PM

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so for vector spaces, do we take scalar from range of vectors or any scalar?

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oh so if it should be say real number, does it imply that say N^2 space is not vector space as its not closed under scalar multiplication?

gritty zinc Sep 6, 2021, 12:20 PM

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rough sapphire so for vector spaces, do we take scalar from range of vectors or any scalar?

Usually you take scalars from the field your vectors are over

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 12:21 PM

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okay so what about subspaces? do we consider field of space for that or subspace?

gritty zinc Sep 6, 2021, 12:21 PM

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you can have a vector space over the naturals but you'll have a problem with it not being a field under multiplication (no inverse)

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 12:21 PM

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gritty zinc you can have a vector space over the naturals but you'll have a problem with it ...

oh yeah no reverse for multiplication i see.

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 12:23 PM

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gritty zinc you can have a vector space over the naturals but you'll have a problem with it ...

but i mean this place says, we don't really need inverse multiplication for spaces.

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http://www.math.niu.edu/~beachy/courses/240/06spring/vectorspace.html

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so about taking scalar from the field, is it in definition? because uhm i did not see fields mentioned there.

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altho i mean N will not follow it anyways because it does not hold additive inverse condition, but i still wonder about Z.

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ah i see i see.

For a general vector space, the scalars are members of a field F, in which case V is called a vector space over F.

so if we consider R as field for scalars, its obvious Z^2 does not qualify.

dire siren Sep 6, 2021, 1:19 PM

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how do i focus on something.

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~~first step is closing discord.~~

silent mantle Sep 6, 2021, 1:38 PM

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hello, is anyone experienced when it comes to microsoft remote desktop and error 0x204 ?

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 2:58 PM

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hi , who uses linux? can u give me resoan why linus is better than windows ?

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thinking of change

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:00 PM

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on Linux now, the best reasons for me are:

built-in package managers make installing software an absolute breeze
much easier to set up dev environments and tools than Windows
faaaaaaast

viscid hemlock Sep 6, 2021, 3:00 PM

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rough sapphire hi , who uses linux? can u give me resoan why linus is better than windows ?

Because if you use Linux you're

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:00 PM

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tbh I've forgotten all of my reasons for using Linux

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I don't remember too much about Windows

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:01 PM

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@rough sapphire just be prepared to read articles online, it's got a learning curve

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Meh, it's not terribly bad

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unless you use Arch

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:01 PM

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I agree but I've also been using Linux for 11 years now so I'm too biased to say

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Fair

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:01 PM

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latent scaffold unless you use Arch

oh you know i am 👀

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:01 PM

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brainmon why u scaring me

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Wait a minute

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deja vu

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:02 PM

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ohh lol

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:02 PM

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rough sapphire <:brainmon:439516188771483658> why u scaring me

it's okay lol Linux has gotten a lot more user friendly over the years

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:02 PM

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i will use ununtu i guess

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ubuntu,

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:02 PM

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what are you planning to do on your Linux machine?

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:02 PM

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I'd suggest an Ubuntu flavor to start with

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GNOME is...

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:03 PM

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umm

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like

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idk myself

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:03 PM

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well, I'd say check out Kubuntu or Xubuntu

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:03 PM

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maybe web browsing and some dev work maybeee?

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:03 PM

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i will do my programming stuff and i would like to game too

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;-;

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Steam does their testing on Ubuntu and Arch iirc

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:04 PM

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if i had a better system i would dual boot pc but thats not possible rn

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:04 PM

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polar citrus maybe web browsing and some dev work maybeee?

yea basically all normal stuff along with programming

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like browsing etc etc

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:04 PM

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latent scaffold Steam does their testing on Ubuntu and Arch iirc

ohh

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:05 PM

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latent scaffold well, I'd say check out Kubuntu or Xubuntu

is it better than ubuntu ?

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:05 PM

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The only real difference is the desktop environment

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:05 PM

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which looks prettier to you

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this?

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:05 PM

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GNOME can be off-putting for beginners

dire siren Sep 6, 2021, 3:05 PM

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is ubuntu debian's distro

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:05 PM

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latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:05 PM

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no

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Ubuntu is Canonical's distribution of Linux based on Debian

dire siren Sep 6, 2021, 3:05 PM

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o

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:05 PM

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or this

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dire siren Sep 6, 2021, 3:06 PM

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is kubuntu ubuntu distro

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:06 PM

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yup yup

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Kubuntu is Ubuntu but uses KDE Plasma instead of GNOME

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:06 PM

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polar citrus

i feel this one

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looks better

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:06 PM

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it's all Ubuntu under the hood, just with different coats of paint

dire siren Sep 6, 2021, 3:06 PM

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never really touch linux that deep. i only know about ez installations

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idk whats kde and gnome

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:06 PM

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rough sapphire i feel this one

xubuntu would probably be good for you then 👍

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:07 PM

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ohh ok

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ohh

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:07 PM

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there's also standard ubuntu too lol

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kind of, but it's also the ux too

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:07 PM

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polar citrus there's also standard ubuntu too lol

this is also not bad

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:07 PM

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like how you interact with things

dire siren Sep 6, 2021, 3:08 PM

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hmm, i still dont get it. what will you tell a native windows user's definition of it?

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:08 PM

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rough sapphire this is also not bad

they're both pretty easy to set up, just know that Ubuntu is the poster child and Xubuntu is like its brother

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:08 PM

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i see

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so no big diffrence

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:09 PM

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dire siren hmm, i still dont get it. what will you tell a native windows user's definition ...

imagine the differences between Win8 and Win10, except in our Linux world they're both "good"

dire siren Sep 6, 2021, 3:09 PM

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got it

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:09 PM

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ehe

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i see

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:09 PM

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I mean realistically KDE Plasma and Xfce are the ones you want to look at

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GNOME isn't as customizable and uses more resources

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:10 PM

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kekeke

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confusing

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:10 PM

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but Xfce is fairly light

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:10 PM

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GNOME feels more like macOS, KDE and XFCE feel more like Windows, but in the end you can make any of them work like any of the others

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this is true

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:10 PM

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what would be the best for gaming in xfce, kde plasma etc ??

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:11 PM

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There'd hardly be a difference I'd think

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:11 PM

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KDE Plasma would be my bet, but XFCE works too in my experience

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:11 PM

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unless you're low on resources, they should perform about the same

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:11 PM

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recently KDE has gotten even more lightweight than XFCE, which was known to be hella lightweight for a long time

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:11 PM

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if you're low on resources, Xfce will help you there

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:11 PM

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polar citrus recently KDE has gotten even more lightweight than XFCE, which was known to be h...

Really? I'd not heard of that one

low chasm Sep 6, 2021, 3:11 PM

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Hi :D

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I've heard of KDE being more lightweight than before, but I'm not sure about it being lighter than xfce

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:12 PM

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latent scaffold Really? I'd not heard of that one

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/23/bold-prediction-kde-will-steal-the-lightweight-linux-desktop-crown-in-2020/

Forbes

These Xfce Versus KDE Numbers Reveal A Shocking Surprise About Linu...

When I say 'Xfce,' it’s a good bet you think about a lean, responsive Linux desktop environment that’s particularly light on system memory usage. What about when I say 'KDE?' Prepare for some surprises. . .

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:12 PM

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i have i3 so i guess gnome wont be a nice option

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i3 7th gen

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4 gb ram

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:13 PM

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yeeaaaah lol

low chasm Sep 6, 2021, 3:13 PM

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kde works fine on 4gb ram

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:13 PM

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KDE has a built in theme library, if that tickles your fancy

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and you can download some hot themes right from the settings menu

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:13 PM

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Cheesy conclusion

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:13 PM

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🤓 ohh i am using this pc for 5 years now

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its gotten pretty slow

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:14 PM

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Well, maybe try KDE Neon, then

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if this article is to be believed

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:14 PM

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latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:14 PM

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KDE Neon is basically Kubuntu but KDE Plasma is updated more frequently

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:14 PM

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i heard that linux barely uses 1gb ram ti run ;-;

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to*

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:14 PM

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as KDE Neon is maintained by... you guessed it, KDE

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:14 PM

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is that true

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:14 PM

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You can have it use much less

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much much less

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:15 PM

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polar citrus

whats this looks cool

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af

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:15 PM

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some themes on KDE Plasma

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:15 PM

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👀 well form what i have heard arch is tuff for first timers

low chasm Sep 6, 2021, 3:16 PM

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dont go for arch

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as a beginner, arch isn't a good choice

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:16 PM

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Manjaro is easy Arch, but I still think it's not for first-time Linux users

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:16 PM

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umm

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:16 PM

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hhh

low chasm Sep 6, 2021, 3:16 PM

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you've summoned him

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:16 PM

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dk about that

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:16 PM

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you kinda have to know how Linux works a bit to understand what's going on in Manjaro

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:16 PM

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No amount of experience will allow you to understand Manjaro

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God only knows what they're doing

rough sapphire Sep 6, 2021, 3:17 PM

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btw is linux and unix diffrent ?

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:17 PM

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latent scaffold No amount of experience will allow you to understand Manjaro

I haven't touched it in awhile but it seemed like a weird "Arch but we're holding it back" mix

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:18 PM

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I argue this all the time but I guess I'll argue it again

low chasm Sep 6, 2021, 3:18 PM

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rough sapphire btw is linux and unix diffrent ?

yes

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:18 PM

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and that's that Arch doesn't have much merit to begin with

low chasm Sep 6, 2021, 3:18 PM

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latent scaffold I argue this all the time but I guess I'll argue it again

pull out the inner demon

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:18 PM

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latent scaffold and that's that Arch doesn't have much merit to begin with

but muh pacman

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:18 PM

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yeah, but then there's like zypper

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love zypper

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don't gotta pacman -AbcdefSyu

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:19 PM

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never head of that 👀

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:19 PM

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it's the package manager on SUSE distros

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:19 PM

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lol I just use zsh's archlinux plugin

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turns yay -Syu into yaupg

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ohhhh SUSE

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:19 PM

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but like

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Arch is painful to maintain sometimes

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:20 PM

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SUSE feels like a foreign country to me that I really need to culture myself on but never have

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:20 PM

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I love openSUSE distros

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anyways

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Manjaro tries hard to appeal to newbies but there's some flaws

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Beginners really shouldn't be messing with Arch

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I mean seriously, Arch breaks enough as it is

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then you have whatever bonked software Manjaro adds and it only gets worse

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it's really not a pleasant experience unless you're lucky enough to dodge it all

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:22 PM

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latent scaffold then you have whatever bonked software Manjaro adds and it only gets worse

that's the main reason why I left Manjaro

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seemed like a lot of maintenance bonk-age going on

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:22 PM

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I made the mistake of starting out on Manjaro, and I chalked up a lot of my issues to either "Oh, it's just Linux things" or "Oh, my hardware just isn't capable"

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:22 PM

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ouch

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:22 PM

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chalked? is that the word? idk

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:22 PM

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makes sense to me lol

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:23 PM

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One of the issues I had was that my audio wasn't working

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and the Manjaro people told me that I could either only have audio input or audio output

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meaning I had to choose between my built-in mic or my built-in speaker

polar citrus Sep 6, 2021, 3:23 PM

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what the heeeeck

latent scaffold Sep 6, 2021, 3:24 PM

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I just lived without a working mic

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got my audio working