#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 592

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 9:57 AM

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miss a few or consider a few extra*

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 9:59 AM

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imma take a nap now

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gbye

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 9:59 AM

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cya

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nice

latent scaffold Aug 4, 2021, 10:00 AM

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blue cheeto

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:00 AM

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so back to this, to test if a point is within a circle, if i < 0 is true, it means i is outside the image

if i > width is true, it also means i is outside the image, so this if clause basically sees if i and j lie within the imaghe right?

And the 2nd if caluse sees if i,j are a point lying WITHIN the circle?

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 10:00 AM

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yep

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 10:00 AM

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clear sage so back to this, to test if a point is within a circle, if i < 0 is true, it mea...

yes

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:01 AM

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ah i seeeee

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i sort of get how the algorithim works now!

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Thank you both so much!!!!!!!!!!

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 10:01 AM

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welcome :D

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:02 AM

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just one last q

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Is this algorithm slowby any chance?

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 10:02 AM

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hm?

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depends

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 10:02 AM

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depends

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:02 AM

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being able to done within under a few miliseconds or so, assuming c++, if not, it would be slow, im assumignhere

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 10:03 AM

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Occam's Razor
the most simple solutions are often the best ones

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:04 AM

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is this as simple as such a solution can get?

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or simple in general?

gritty zinc Aug 4, 2021, 10:04 AM

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well, in Python you should be using numpy for this instead if you need performance, otherwise you'll have to deal with the slowness of Python no matter what

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:04 AM

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i remember seeing anoither method but it used these golden angles or something and blew my mind into pieces

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 10:05 AM

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it's simple
there might be a better one tho
you never know

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 10:05 AM

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clear sage i remember seeing anoither method but it used these golden angles or something a...

what

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:05 AM

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odd sluice what

my exact same reaction, it made no sense

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 10:06 AM

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k im taking a nap now

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gbye

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:06 AM

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gn!

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 10:06 AM

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clear sage gn!

afternoon here KEKA
but thank you anyways

gritty zinc Aug 4, 2021, 10:07 AM

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something like, uhh

from_x = max(x-radius,0)
from_y = max(y-radius,0)
to_x = min(x+radius+1,width)
to_y = min(y+radius+1,height)
image_part = img_arr[from_y:to_y, from_x:to_x, :]
Xs = np.arange(from_y-y,to_y-y)
Ys = np.arange(from_x-x,to_x-x)
Xs, Ys = np.meshgrid(Xs,Ys)
R = Xs**2 + Ys**2
mask = R <= radius**2
mean_color = image_part.astype(np.float64).mean(axis=(0,1), where = mask)
return mean_color.astype(np.uint8)

is how I'd do that with numpy

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 10:07 AM

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why is the snek angry

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yes

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 10:08 AM

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gritty zinc something like, uhh ```py from_x = max(x-radius,0) from_y = max(y-radius,0) to_x...

🤔

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doesn;t that get the bounding square

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not the circle

gritty zinc Aug 4, 2021, 10:08 AM

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oh, whoops

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also need a where

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:10 AM

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how would i miss a few pixels tho? If the numebr im finding sqrt of is not a perfect square, ill HAVE to round down the sqrt anytway right?

gritty zinc Aug 4, 2021, 10:10 AM

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there, fixed I think

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:11 AM

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because we cant have decimal values of y and x

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 10:11 AM

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idk

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:11 AM

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gritty zinc something like, uhh ```py from_x = max(x-radius,0) from_y = max(y-radius,0) to_x...

Thank you!

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Tho ill admit im a bit unfamiliar with numpy 😅

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 10:12 AM

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it should probably work the same

gritty zinc Aug 4, 2021, 10:13 AM

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well, really you shouldn't be using sqrt anyway just because it's slow 😛

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 10:13 AM

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yeah ig you could compare with r^2

gritty zinc Aug 4, 2021, 10:13 AM

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instead of checking sqrt(x**2+y**2) <= r, check x**2+y**2<=r**2, that avoids a sqrt

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 10:13 AM

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ye

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no wait

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im not comparing anything there though

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im finding the start and end y coordinate

gritty zinc Aug 4, 2021, 10:14 AM

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ah, fair enough

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:24 AM

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gritty zinc instead of checking `sqrt(x**2+y**2) <= r`, check `x**2+y**2<=r**2`, that avoids...

why does this work though?

gritty zinc Aug 4, 2021, 10:25 AM

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why not? these inequalities are equivalent

bleak rain Aug 4, 2021, 10:28 AM

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simply square both sides

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:28 AM

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im confused because, in

root three < root 10

you said we could write it as

3<10

But here is my q. 3 < 10 is the same as root three * root three < root 10 * root 10

Now in x < y, if i multiply the same constant 5 on both sides as in x * 5 < y * 5, I can understand how the inequality is 'maintained', since the exact SAME number is multiplied on both sides

But in root three * root three < root 10 * root 10, I multiply different numbers on each side (root three on the left, root 10 on the right), so how can we assure the inequality is constant?

viscid hemlock Aug 4, 2021, 10:29 AM

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clear sage why does this work though?

Instead of checking if x+1 == y you can do x == y-1

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It's same as for sqrt(x) == y vs. x == y**2

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 10:29 AM

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viscid hemlock Instead of checking if `x+1 == y` you can do `x == y-1`

y - 1*

viscid hemlock Aug 4, 2021, 10:30 AM

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Oh yeah sorry

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 10:35 AM

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viscid hemlock It's same as for `sqrt(x) == y` vs. `x == y**2`

Sorry I dont understand, in this case of sqrt(x) ==y wont it instead be x == y*x if it has to maintain equality?

gritty zinc Aug 4, 2021, 10:36 AM

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If a==b, it follows that a**2 == b**2, always

viscid hemlock Aug 4, 2021, 10:36 AM

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In other languages I think you do ^?

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If the square root of x is y. Then x is the same as y² (y^2 but in Python typed as y**2)

gritty zinc Aug 4, 2021, 10:38 AM

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inequalities are a bit more complex - if a < b and also a and b are both positive, then we can say a**2 < b**2.
That's the case in going from sqrt(x**2 + y**2) <= r to x**2 + y**2 <= r**2

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clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 11:19 AM

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gritty zinc inequalities are a bit more complex - if `a < b` *and also `a` and `b` are both ...

Is this because a is smaller than b, so if we do a*a, it will always be smaller than b*b ?

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Yes I understand

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And all of this (except for >0 part, because negative * negative = positive, which I'm not sure if its axiomatic ) is to be considered axiomatic?

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 11:24 AM

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small * small < big * big

gritty zinc Aug 4, 2021, 11:26 AM

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clear sage And all of this (except for >0 part, because negative * negative = positive, whi...

Nah. Suppose x<y and they are both positive. Then y*y > x*y (because y>x and y is positive) and x*y > x*x (because y>x and x is positive), hence y*y > x*x

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(if it's not clear why y*y > x*y - it is equivalent to y*(y-x) > 0, which is true because y>0 and y>x ==> (y-x)>0)

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clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 12:37 PM

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gritty zinc Nah. Suppose `x<y` and they are both positive. Then `y*y > x*y` (because `y>x` a...

I see! Thank you, that's a nice way to proof it!

clear sage Aug 4, 2021, 12:37 PM

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acoustic moss `small * small < big * big`

Thank you too, for an intuitive approach as well!

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gritty zinc Aug 4, 2021, 1:49 PM

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tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 1:54 PM

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Neat

rough sapphire Aug 4, 2021, 1:58 PM

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when are quantum computers coming?

dire siren Aug 4, 2021, 1:59 PM

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rough sapphire when are quantum computers coming?

alr ig

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 1:59 PM

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Not any time soon

dire siren Aug 4, 2021, 1:59 PM

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just not public avaliable because the computer youre using is alr gud enough

rough sapphire Aug 4, 2021, 2:00 PM

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dire siren just not public avaliable because the computer youre using is alr gud enough

no it's not lol, i have poop cpu and 1gb of ram

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Quantum computers dont do better at traditional tasks than your pc back home

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Dont get sucked in from all the hype

rough sapphire Aug 4, 2021, 2:01 PM

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tardy rain Quantum computers dont do better at traditional tasks than your pc back home

they are better at breaking encryption

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 2:01 PM

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No theyre not

dapper dew Aug 4, 2021, 2:02 PM

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They are cool due to the technology they employ and the possibilities they bring, not their current capability. (in my opinion)

dire siren Aug 4, 2021, 2:04 PM

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rough sapphire no it's not lol, i have poop cpu and 1gb of ram

enough for you, dont compare. it works fine youre able to type here

rough sapphire Aug 4, 2021, 2:04 PM

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tardy rain No theyre not

https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/quantum-computers-could-crack-todays-encrypted-messages-thats-a-problem/

dire siren Aug 4, 2021, 2:04 PM

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looks like clickbait 👀

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i usually get trash info in these trash websites

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 2:04 PM

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could

rough sapphire Aug 4, 2021, 2:04 PM

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cnet.com?

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 2:05 PM

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That looks like an opinion piece

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And a bad one lmao

dire siren Aug 4, 2021, 2:05 PM

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lol

rough sapphire Aug 4, 2021, 2:05 PM

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alr then

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 2:05 PM

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Why would encryption stay the same as today but quantum computers could advance

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Encryption would also advance

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Anyway you dont need a quantum computer now or ever

dire siren Aug 4, 2021, 2:06 PM

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yes

rough sapphire Aug 4, 2021, 2:07 PM

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tardy rain Quantum computers dont do better at traditional tasks than your pc back home

this is just like saying that self-driving cars unnecessary because they don't do better than the average driver

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 2:07 PM

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They do though

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 2:07 PM

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yeah

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Bro are you kidding, the average driver is shit

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 2:08 PM

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a computer cannot drink and drive

dire siren Aug 4, 2021, 2:08 PM

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acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 2:08 PM

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or fall asleep at the wheel

dire siren Aug 4, 2021, 2:08 PM

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ops

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 2:08 PM

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Do you know how many people die each year from car accidents

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 2:08 PM

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more than 3

rough sapphire Aug 4, 2021, 2:08 PM

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acoustic moss or fall asleep at the wheel

a computer can run out of battery at the wheel lol

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 2:09 PM

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bruh

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 2:09 PM

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Bruh for real

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dire siren Aug 4, 2021, 2:09 PM

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tardy rain Bro are you kidding, the average driver is shit

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rough sapphire Aug 4, 2021, 2:10 PM

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tardy rain Bruh for real

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graceful basin Aug 4, 2021, 2:10 PM

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as of today, elliptic curve cryptography is practically uncrackable at key sizes a microcontroller could compute in real time

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so I can't imagine quantum computers will change that, they aren't a more powerful method of computation, though they may end up much faster for some workloads

bleak rain Aug 4, 2021, 2:12 PM

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graceful basin as of today, elliptic curve cryptography is practically uncrackable at key sizes...

I like how these are perfectly valid terms but still sound like star trek technobabble

rough sapphire Aug 4, 2021, 2:12 PM

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quantum can beat rsa tho

graceful basin Aug 4, 2021, 2:12 PM

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current computers can beat rsa

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that's why we are depracating it

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multiplication gets harder for large keys, and finding prime factors get "easier"

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general number field sieves are kinda insane.

vocal quail Aug 4, 2021, 2:23 PM

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dapper dew They are cool due to the technology they employ and the possibilities they bring...

It's like cookie clicker

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when you first upgrade your cookie factories they don't outpace the old ones

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but you know they have the potential too

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 2:27 PM

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Their potential is not as general as people think, its not like they'll replace the traditional computer in households

winter terrace Aug 4, 2021, 2:59 PM

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Most people don’t need the computing power capable of cracking modern encryption, so it’s likely it’ll just be a researcher’s machine

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But aren’t quantum parts really expensive

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Except classical computers were an improvement at all their functions, quantum computers arent

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:35 PM

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What's your favorite thing to do in programming guys? Web dev? Game dev? AI? GUI Dev? etc.

tribal aurora Aug 4, 2021, 4:38 PM

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burning the language lemon_smug

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 4:38 PM

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esoteric stuff

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Dockerizing literally everything

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:39 PM

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ic lmao

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but like

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what aspect of programming

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like from the main ones

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Web dev

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Game dev

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idk Generative art

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And like, Data Structures/Algos

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Or something like networking/security

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 4:41 PM

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Full stack web i'd say

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:41 PM

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ooo ic. that's interesting

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Django + Front-end? or something else for back-end?

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 4:42 PM

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So far its been Flask/fastAPI/expressjs

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And react

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And mongo/postgres

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Ah, that's nice!

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I asked that question cuz I have kinda lost passion gradually in this quarantine and it's reached a point where I hardly code nowadays yk

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 4:43 PM

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Yea flask and fastapi are nice and i like react too

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Tried vue but i didnt like it

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:43 PM

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Vue is just as good as react. it's just less popular

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You probably didn't like it because React already satisfied your needs yk

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 4:45 PM

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Im not that good with react, i just made a couple SPAs

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"made" is an overstatement i guess

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:46 PM

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SPAs are the whole purpose of frameworks like React and Vue ig

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Yea but its not like i finished the project and deployed is what i mean

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Its functioning but they dont look good either

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I suck at design

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:49 PM

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Ah

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Well

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idk why but 99% of the fullstack programmers (Including me) suck at designing lmao

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 4:49 PM

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idk anything about networking
maybe i should start after i finish this crypto thing

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:49 PM

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Like , I know CSS, but I can't think of a proper design

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Networking is very good to know, even if you don't use it

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Well, you use your wifi anyway lol

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 4:50 PM

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lmao

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 4:50 PM

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odd sluice idk anything about networking maybe i should start after i finish this crypto th...

dis gonna take some time though

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probably a couple months

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Networking is mostly theory and not actual work though. I found it boring but still suffocated and learned (somewhat) lol

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also

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if you have nothing else to learn, try functional programming if you haven't already

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just saying

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 4:52 PM

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lunar shore if you have nothing else to learn, try functional programming if you haven't alr...

is functional programming something you learn?

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hmmm what does it consist of

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Functional programming languages

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 4:52 PM

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im kinda addicted to oop

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Like Haskell, OCaml, and other stuff

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Try FP it's fun imo

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Oh and scala mixes FP and OOP

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Maybe try it

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Scala is nice

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Pick a lisp and try it

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 4:53 PM

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what is FP
gimme an example

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:55 PM

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odd sluice what *is* FP gimme an example

FP is functional programming. In functional programming, everything is a function (plus datatypes, yes). And what is a function? A function is an operation which returns one thing for each value. if f(x) = 2x , f(1) is 2, and nothing else. Basically, a FP language is a language avoiding side effects as much as possible

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Those side effects also consist of printing something to the console which is one of the only side effects that FPs don't avoid

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Like in Haskell, side effects are ONLY possible in the main function

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But there are some languages which have side effects too, yk

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 4:57 PM

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lunar shore FP is functional programming. In functional programming, everything is a functio...

ah ok

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:57 PM

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You can also search for the wikipedia page, it has more details

viscid hemlock Aug 4, 2021, 4:58 PM

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lunar shore FP is functional programming. In functional programming, everything is a functio...

Hahaha and Python is OOP compared to that

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 4:58 PM

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yes lmaooo

viscid hemlock Aug 4, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Like... classes are types. And you can control how those are created.

You can define a metaclass, which will decide how a class is constructed. The class of course you define to decide how an object is constructed.

odd sluice Aug 4, 2021, 4:59 PM

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i am addicted to classes
idk why
i make classes for e v e r y t h i n g

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Not everything needs to be a class

acoustic moss Aug 4, 2021, 5:00 PM

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can't hear you over my jvm

lunar shore Aug 4, 2021, 5:02 PM

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In Haskell, let's say , the datatype PrintThis, which holds a string, has a type constructor and a data constructor. Data constructor is a function which gets the values and returns the type. Like we can get PrintThis "Hi" just like what I wrote. PrintThis is the data constructor. It gets a string as an argument, and returns PrintThis + The string it got. The type constructor is used when defining function types . Let's say, we wan't a function that always returns PrintThis "Hi" , it would be like this :

myFunction :: 
               PrintThis -- This is the type constructor
myFunction = PrintThis "Hi"

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idk if that's 100% correct but that's what I know lol

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but yeah that's the type system

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(a part of it)

inland wolf Aug 4, 2021, 6:25 PM

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the shadow realm

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 6:25 PM

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In appdata/roaming/pypoetry

opaque jolt Aug 4, 2021, 7:01 PM

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how is it going andre?

vapid nymph Aug 4, 2021, 7:11 PM

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dapper dew Aug 4, 2021, 7:11 PM

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Favorite paradox: "This statement is False"

stark oasis Aug 4, 2021, 10:05 PM

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if python were javascript, we would speak with a different language. We would use the pathlib API and the requests API and the SQLAlchemy API and the list comprehension API. What end would there be to things that are now APIs?

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f-string api

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shebang line aat the top of the file api

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thats how js really is

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the relative import api

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why are they so attached to that term?

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Im going to update my .bashrc later with some new aliases. Gotta love that bashrc alias api

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 10:09 PM

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pathlib is an api tho and so is requests and sqlalchemy

stark oasis Aug 4, 2021, 10:09 PM

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Right.. But we dont say that constantly with every thing in python

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Introducing the x API

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that is how anyone talks about javscript

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 10:10 PM

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No we say package instead

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How is that better

stark oasis Aug 4, 2021, 10:12 PM

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its not about there being a package. IF JS came out with some like... type hints, which were growing in popularity....

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It would "the new type hints API"

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its not a objectively bad or good

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its just how they talk

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we have a better range of descriptors

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because everything isnt just api.

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 10:14 PM

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I've never heard anyone call arrow functions an api

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Or interfaces an api in ts

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So where does this even come from

stark oasis Aug 4, 2021, 10:15 PM

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fetch api, useContext api, function components hooks api

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Those are apis

stark oasis Aug 4, 2021, 10:15 PM

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im not debating that lol

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 10:15 PM

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useContext is a hook

stark oasis Aug 4, 2021, 10:15 PM

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but in the world of JS, its a new API

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thats what im saying

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Bruh

stark oasis Aug 4, 2021, 10:16 PM

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i can find you twenty aarticles right now that call functional components an api.

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 10:16 PM

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You mean react hooks?

graceful basin Aug 4, 2021, 10:16 PM

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python:
the method call protocol
the descriptor protocol
the iterable protocol
the iterator protocol
the boolean protocol
the attribute access protocol
the item access protocol
the mapping protocol
the sequence protocol
the set protocol
the mutableset protocol
the mutablemapping protocol

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we aren't much better tbh

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 10:17 PM

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React hooks are APIs why would they call them anything else

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This is just pointless complaining about js

stark oasis Aug 4, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Im not complaining about JS. im remarking about it. Objectively, there isnt bad or good preference for a general term.

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But as you read about JS in the JS community, you find the use of the word in excess.

graceful basin Aug 4, 2021, 10:19 PM

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API is a very general term, and yes, JS uses it in places where python would say module

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Module, package, etc are not more descriptive as just saying API anyway

stark oasis Aug 4, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Whereas in python, we say something is an API when like.... Qt5 gives the same bindings in C++ to use it with a language we know.

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SQLAlch would be a good exaample of something pythonists would call an api yeah

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They're not.

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But JS has a culture of trends that we dont thave

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in the same way

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and when you read the articles you see it

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disclaimer, right now i do way more js than python btw

rich rover Aug 4, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Is it even possible to shove this into a lambda function?

graceful basin Aug 4, 2021, 10:22 PM

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yes, but I would not do that

rich rover Aug 4, 2021, 10:23 PM

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I mean

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I did that already

tardy rain Aug 4, 2021, 10:23 PM

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Why would you do that

rich rover Aug 4, 2021, 10:23 PM

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I don't know but now my brain hurts

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I just want to make an inline lambda with the algo I made above

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and then map it to this mess

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I already made a reasonable solution

stark oasis Aug 4, 2021, 10:30 PM

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here i have the exact solution that you need @rich rover

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rich rover Aug 4, 2021, 10:31 PM

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the input has to be a string, and the cases must remain in the same place/index as they were found in the regular string

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only for the string to be reversed and maintain the case locations (or whatever you call it)

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ignore the gibberish at the top of the terminal

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there might be a simpler solution; I tend to over complicate things

rich rover Aug 4, 2021, 11:09 PM

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this is truly marvelous

stark oasis Aug 4, 2021, 11:43 PM

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@tardy rain

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Right now i am currently using the two monitors on my desk while sitting in my chair api

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I feel like API is a better term in reference to the actual reference material.

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and the specification inside of it.

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in the sitting at your desk api, you can pass a height to the chair object and set the state of its vertical positioning

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you could say the lever is a hook into this state

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but of course, in js, you could also just say that its an api

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the chair api

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🙃

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"Learn to use the chair API in twenty minutes in all of your react projects!"

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my full course is available

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ill leave you with just one question this brings to mind

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is the chair api relevant in 2021?

onyx basin Aug 5, 2021, 12:12 AM

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this analogy went so far

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I am highly entertained by it

agile dove Aug 5, 2021, 12:24 AM

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sending screenshot

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lunar crescent Aug 5, 2021, 12:24 AM

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ah

tender smelt Aug 5, 2021, 12:25 AM

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you collapsed it

agile dove Aug 5, 2021, 12:25 AM

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no i didnt

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oh

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umm,

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sorry. i did collapse it

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 1:27 AM

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mary had a little lam its soul was black as coal one night it walked in to her room and it ate her soul

viscid hemlock Aug 5, 2021, 1:33 AM

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Story of my life

inland wolf Aug 5, 2021, 5:50 AM

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danm

solemn leaf Aug 5, 2021, 5:50 AM

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mary had a little lam .

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happy ending

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damn

wintry fractal Aug 5, 2021, 5:55 AM

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viscid hemlock Story of my life

i take her home i spent all night

edgy crest Aug 5, 2021, 7:00 AM

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mfwsus

clear acorn Aug 5, 2021, 7:41 AM

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solemn leaf damn

damn

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 7:50 AM

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rough sapphire mary had a little lam its soul was black as coal one night it walked in to her...

so... poetic!

odd sluice Aug 5, 2021, 8:06 AM

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rough sapphire mary had a little lam its soul was black as coal one night it walked in to her...

you know
they should teach this to children
much better

tight scarab Aug 5, 2021, 8:08 AM

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If you're bored, I'd appreciate help on upvoting the Python Developer in Residence article on Hacker News (by the end of the New page).

odd sluice Aug 5, 2021, 8:08 AM

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alr

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oh that's what ycombinator is
i was like "wtf is that site man"

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or is it that site hmm

tight scarab Aug 5, 2021, 8:17 AM

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Yes, news.ycombinator.com

opaque bronze Aug 5, 2021, 8:17 AM

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i dont know why its named hacker news tho

stark oasis Aug 5, 2021, 8:20 AM

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https://web.archive.org/web/20140627111301/http://ycombinator.com/hackernews.html

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solid pollen Aug 5, 2021, 10:34 AM

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tight scarab If you're bored, I'd appreciate help on upvoting the Python Developer in Residen...

link? I don't see which article you are talking about

odd sluice Aug 5, 2021, 12:09 PM

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solid pollen link? I don't see which article you are talking about

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28070842

ambivalence

Python Software Foundation Hires a “Developer-in-Residence”

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there

dire siren Aug 5, 2021, 12:16 PM

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still waiting till mr hemlock online and ask whos his dad

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~~probably joe~~

lunar shore Aug 5, 2021, 1:11 PM

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why is PHP hated btw? modern PHP has most issues resolved, right?

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 1:15 PM

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which popular language isn't hated

lunar shore Aug 5, 2021, 1:18 PM

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um

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I mean, at least JavaScript or Python are loved my many. most PHP developers have quitted/hated it yk

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by*

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lol autocorrect

tight scarab Aug 5, 2021, 1:18 PM

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lunar shore why is PHP hated btw? modern PHP has most issues resolved, right?

PHP, originally called "Personal Home Page" by its author, was an alternative to CGI and at the time of creation didn't have ambitions much bigger than "provide a few server-site niceties straight inside HTML". It wasn't designed as a fully fledged programming language, and its builtin functions weren't particularly thought through as a "standard library" that will grow.

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It became super successful because through Apache it turned out that it's trivial to provide SHARED server-side hosting for people with as little as an FTP account. No long-running processes, no server-side configuration (besides .htaccess I guess). It became very popular very quick, and with that, people wanted to do more with it.

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At around PHP4 the old design started really show its age. PHP5 shed some of that cruft, and PHP7 copied some performance-improving ideas from Facebook's HHVM. It's now a modern language by all means. But people remembering PHP3 will never forget its clunkiness and disregard for security. So they complain to this day 🙂

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You're saying that JavaScript is loved by many. Yes, but many old timers remember times of Internet Explorer 6 and before and that JavaScript sucked baaadly. I bring up Internet Explorer because while it's rightfully hated for a lot of things, it was Microsoft who came up with AJAX which changed the entire thinking about what is possible in a browser. Before it was all "fat plugins", with Java, Silverlight, and of course Flash, being the biggest players.

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Now everybody takes it for granted JavaScript allows nice async networking and has full front-end multimedia capability with audio, video, and an hardware-accelerated 2D canvas and 3D engine built right into the browser.

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Not so long ago none of this was true.

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 1:24 PM

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something something java applets

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i have a book from 1997 which mentions them

tight scarab Aug 5, 2021, 1:25 PM

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I ran a successful Java WebStart CMS-style application for a while that was used at Polish universities 😄

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 1:25 PM

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damn

tight scarab Aug 5, 2021, 1:25 PM

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and that was 2006-2009 so really, not so long ago.

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It was very popular because all those university office computers in 2006-2009 were still some locked down Windows XP machines with IE6. Nothing else worked if you wanted multimedia.

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At the peak we were in >40 universities.

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The US financial crisis killed it eventually as advertising dried up.

graceful basin Aug 5, 2021, 1:35 PM

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is there a current alternative to php/cgi/wsgi for shared hosts?

lunar shore Aug 5, 2021, 1:37 PM

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tight scarab At around PHP4 the old design started really show its age. PHP5 shed some of tha...

Ah. So it's because they had really bad experiences in the past

dire siren Aug 5, 2021, 1:47 PM

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0j0php

dire siren Aug 5, 2021, 1:47 PM

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dire siren 0j0php

i made an elephant

twin charm Aug 5, 2021, 1:48 PM

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damn

tight scarab Aug 5, 2021, 1:53 PM

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IDK, Netlify is "free" and there's plenty of tiny VMs for $3 - $7/month.

graceful basin Aug 5, 2021, 1:54 PM

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ah no, I mean for like universities that want to give their students websites with a bit more logic than just a static site

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my uni gives me cgi and php

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and while cgi works, it is quite slow

honest star Aug 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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I do miss AJAX occasionally, that was really a game changer

remote citrus Aug 5, 2021, 2:36 PM

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has anyone read the book: Journey to the center of the earth

uneven pine Aug 5, 2021, 3:38 PM

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It is a very well known book

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Many people have read it

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 3:39 PM

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I did listen to it as a audio book

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Anyone here read Blackout by Marc Elsberg?

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:24 PM

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remote citrus has anyone read the book: Journey to the center of the earth

Jules Verne right? yeah its quite a famous one.

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so if i have a method like this,

    @staticmethod
    def meet(rule_1, rule_2):
        new_rule = []
        for i in rule_1:
            rule_added = False
            for j in new_rule:
                print('=>', i, j)
                if i.intersection(j):
                    j = j.union(i)
                    print(j)
                    rule_added = True
                    break
            if rule_added:
                continue
            r = deepcopy(i)
            for j in rule_2:
                print(i, j)
                intersection = r.intersection(j)
                if intersection:
                    print('found intersection')
                    r = r.union(j)
            new_rule.append(r)
            print('uhm', new_rule)
        r = Partition.to_rule(new_rule)
        del new_rule
        gc.collect()
        return r

here i was kinda trying to manipulate the j inside new_rule, what would be the way for it then?

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:29 PM

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hmmm

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j |= i might be in-place

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:30 PM

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wym?

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i can manage by index as an easy fix

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:30 PM

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oh you could use j.update(i) too

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:30 PM

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enumerate and index

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:30 PM

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acoustic moss oh you could use `j.update(i)` too

wait what

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:31 PM

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In [1]: a = {1, 2, 3}

In [2]: b = {2, 3, 4}

In [3]: a.update(b)

In [4]: a
Out[4]: {1, 2, 3, 4}

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:31 PM

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works on frozen?

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(yeah i know my new_rule is list rn, but i was gonna change it)

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:32 PM

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🤔

inland wolf Aug 5, 2021, 5:32 PM

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can u put a frozenset inside a frozenset

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:32 PM

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if b is a frozenset it works

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:32 PM

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inland wolf can u put a frozenset inside a frozenset

yes

inland wolf Aug 5, 2021, 5:32 PM

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nice

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:32 PM

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inland wolf can u put a frozenset inside a frozenset

yep you can.

inland wolf Aug 5, 2021, 5:32 PM

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okay.

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:33 PM

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acoustic moss if `b` is a frozenset it works

ah i see, frozensets should be immutable. what the fuck is wrong with me.

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so to let it update, I'll just keep it as a set, and to have sets inside I'll keep new_rule as list right now.

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:34 PM

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hm

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you could have new_rule as a set too
and do new_rule.add(frozenset(j))

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:35 PM

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acoustic moss you could have new_rule as a set too and do `new_rule.add(frozenset(j))`

but no if i do that, i wouldn't be able to update the inner element in next iteration right?

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:36 PM

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uhhh maybe idk

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wait wdym

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:37 PM

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yeah wait

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:39 PM

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rough sapphire so if i have a method like this, ```py @staticmethod def meet(rule_1, ru...

so in this code, what I'm doing is, in first inner loop it is possible to manipulate the element of new_rule.

So if add a frozenset, I won't be able to manipulate it by update or anything.

So i need it as a set.
And as it is a set, i cannot have parent as a set. So I'll need to keep it as a list.

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:39 PM

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ah right

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i see

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:40 PM

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!e

def to_rule(rule):
    return frozenset([frozenset(i) for i in rule])
def meet(rule_1, rule_2):
    new_rule = []
    for i in rule_1:
        rule_added = False
        for j in new_rule:
            # print('=>', i, j)
            if i.intersection(j):
                j = j.update(i)
                # print(j)
                rule_added = True
                break
        if rule_added:
            continue
        r = set(i)
        for j in rule_2:
            # print(i, j)
            intersection = r.intersection(j)
            if intersection:
                # print('found intersection')
                r = r.union(j)
        new_rule.append(r)
    r = to_rule(new_rule)
    return r
print(meet(to_rule([[1,2], [3,4,5]]), to_rule([[1], [2,3],[4,5]])))

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eh

royal lakeBOT Aug 5, 2021, 5:41 PM

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@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

frozenset({frozenset({1, 2, 3, 4, 5})})

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:41 PM

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ah alright, this is working now, I'll need to check again, I somehow missed edge cases last time.

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:41 PM

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why do you have those dels and gc.collects btw

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:41 PM

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yeah about that

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i actually had partitions of like 400 elements.
so when i was doing meet and join operations, it was eating up ram on colab.
Because i had to do it on a lot partitions.

But issue was it was not releasing from somewhere.

So i did bit of commenting and found out these were causing issues.

So i tried to clear them out, and now things are working fine.

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I never experienced this before tho.
It may be colab or may be my code, but after removing them forcefully, ram is getting managed.

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:44 PM

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hmm

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:45 PM

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but tho colab is fucking handy

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it works perfect with drive, so we get file system and cloud so PC all easy going.

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:46 PM

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yeah colab is nice

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i don't feel that comfortable with notebooks but ive still used it a few times

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:47 PM

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wow, I kinda started py with notebooks, i feel so strange with actual py files.

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:47 PM

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heh

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:47 PM

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notebooks are just so so handy

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:48 PM

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the closest i get to notebooks is my ipython shell

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:49 PM

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heh lol preferences.

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oh anyways, i gotta hurry, Thanks a lot for the time btw:D

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:51 PM

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cya

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:57 PM

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@acoustic moss
So it should be
j.update(j.union(i))
right?

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:57 PM

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no just j.update(i)

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:57 PM

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uhm no wait

acoustic moss Aug 5, 2021, 5:58 PM

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In [1]: a = {1, 2, 3}

In [2]: b = {2, 3, 4}

In [3]: a.update(b)

In [4]: a
Out[4]: {1, 2, 3, 4}

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 5:58 PM

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weird, I'm doing something wrong.

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oh okay alright thanks, I got some bug in my code then.

winter terrace Aug 5, 2021, 6:09 PM

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hey guys could someone google "why do i have no friends" i can't really rn cuz i really don't need google giving me craigslist ads

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 6:15 PM

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winter terrace hey guys could someone google "why do i have no friends" i can't really rn cuz i...

winter terrace Aug 5, 2021, 6:16 PM

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rough sapphire

👍 thanks

vapid nymph Aug 5, 2021, 7:06 PM

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y'all, I have a question.

For a location for modmail addons/extensions/plugins/etc (basically user installed third-party stuff, mostly from github, might add some gitlab support too)
how does this seem?
modmail/plugins/{USER}/{plugin_name}/{files}
modmail/plugins/local/{plugin_name}/{files}

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@solid pollen asking you because I know you use plugins lol

solid pollen Aug 5, 2021, 7:27 PM

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What's the context? What is that structure, the git repo ? @vapid nymph

vapid nymph Aug 5, 2021, 7:27 PM

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yeah

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well

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no

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where the files will be installed to

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the git repo will be like a monorepo

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extension repos structure:
/{plugin_name}/{files}

solid pollen Aug 5, 2021, 7:28 PM

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So you are asking what modmail should support or how you should structure it with the current support?

vapid nymph Aug 5, 2021, 7:32 PM

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solid pollen So you are asking what modmail should support or how you should structure it wit...

I'm asking for how you think it would be best to install them on the bot

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what folder structure on the bot should the plugins take

solid pollen Aug 5, 2021, 7:34 PM

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Are you asking for like your own modmail version?

vapid nymph Aug 5, 2021, 7:39 PM

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solid pollen Are you asking for like your own modmail version?

yeah

solid pollen Aug 5, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Riiiight

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Yeah, that looks about right

vapid nymph Aug 5, 2021, 7:47 PM

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vapid nymph y'all, I have a question. For a location for modmail addons/extensions/plugins/...

@bleak lintel u 2 🥺

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not sure if i should also have a source like /gh/ and /gl/ since I want to support both.…

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then again, this is easy enough to change before release

bleak lintel Aug 5, 2021, 7:52 PM

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vapid nymph <@!165023948638126080> u 2 🥺

lol I don't care

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ultimately I run things in docker

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so it could go in /etc/golang for all I care

vapid nymph Aug 5, 2021, 7:56 PM

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well yeah

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its more the import order

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like

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if you want to import from a different plugin

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which I'm not saying will be supported, but I'm not saying it won't either.

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but addons will be heavily supported

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tl;dr I wrote a system to not load cogs unless the bot is in specific modes

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so it will have an extension manager for built in cogs, eval command, etc, but they won't load under normal usage unless the env var is explicitly set

vapid nymph Aug 5, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Press F.

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plugins are extensions too, which means rewriting the extensions system :)

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 10:23 PM

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bleak lintel so it could go in /etc/golang for all I care

Lmao

lost vortex Aug 5, 2021, 10:24 PM

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Could you guys tell me which one looks better?

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I'd also appreciate any feedback on either.

rough sapphire Aug 5, 2021, 10:26 PM

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Number 1

shrewd prawn Aug 5, 2021, 10:27 PM

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i like the first one, but make "Bill Gates" have a consistent style

lost vortex Aug 5, 2021, 10:27 PM

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ahh thank you. So for the name part, i shouldn't have the last name bold?

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also, i am not sure if the job description is too tiny, is it readable? (for number 1)

honest star Aug 5, 2021, 10:51 PM

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As long as text isn't smaller than 12 pts you should be fine. I also prefer the first. It's cleaner and looks nicer.

lost vortex Aug 5, 2021, 10:53 PM

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Awesome, thank you

distant hazel Aug 6, 2021, 1:21 AM

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this channel name is perfect right now #ot1-perplexing-regexing

reef geyser Aug 6, 2021, 1:56 AM

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@rough sapphire What are you on about?

rough sapphire Aug 6, 2021, 1:56 AM

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My child

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This day will come

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If you agree I can make you a very powerful person

reef geyser Aug 6, 2021, 1:57 AM

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What's coming though?

rough sapphire Aug 6, 2021, 1:58 AM

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My child, you will see in time

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For it is I

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Godfather Don Corleone

frail badge Aug 6, 2021, 2:07 AM

#

Uhh

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Are you a person with a high ego or are you just roleplaying?

latent scaffold Aug 6, 2021, 2:15 AM

#

uh

last mantle Aug 6, 2021, 2:33 AM

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latent scaffold uh

I use arch btw

latent scaffold Aug 6, 2021, 2:49 AM

#

:<

ebon condor Aug 6, 2021, 3:44 AM

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made a quick design of a trans birb lad. he is a fashion designer

shrewd prawn Aug 6, 2021, 3:52 AM

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interesting

ebon condor Aug 6, 2021, 3:58 AM

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im excited to make some more clothes for him. and digitally color and stuff

shrewd prawn Aug 6, 2021, 4:00 AM

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hmm making clothes with holes for wings AND arms

ebon condor Aug 6, 2021, 4:01 AM

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it can be constructed with a more open back/sides

#

the clothes will be more colorful, prolly not the wings

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but... i am gonna have lots of fun with fabrics. i wanna make an outfit with batik, a fabric dyed and patterned with beeswax

hexed ridge Aug 6, 2021, 4:03 AM

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im just like that

rough sapphire Aug 6, 2021, 4:38 AM

#

last mantle Aug 6, 2021, 4:39 AM

#

yes

shrewd prawn Aug 6, 2021, 5:02 AM

#

im trying to authorize github for android studio, and after i login, its redirecting me to http://127.0.0.1:63342/api/github/oauth/authorization_code?code=not_showing, and its giving me a sign-in pop up. What does this mean, and how am I supposed to sign in?

#

ive never seen this before, and idk what im supposed to use to sign in

#

github login doesn't work

#

hmm i tried using a token again, and now it worked. token didnt work the first time fore some reason. still have no idea what that redirect was

dire siren Aug 6, 2021, 6:51 AM

#

rough sapphire

that guy is talking with a coffee bruh

#

if you didn't get the joke: ||(java is coffee)||

odd sluice Aug 6, 2021, 6:52 AM

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lmao

shrewd prawn Aug 6, 2021, 6:52 AM

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what about the guy learning julia or ruby

dire siren Aug 6, 2021, 6:53 AM

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julia is a girl ig. sure you can talk to her

odd sluice Aug 6, 2021, 6:53 AM

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shrewd prawn what about the guy learning julia or ruby

you'll need to learn to speak with nonexistent objects (a gf) and inanimate objects

dire siren Aug 6, 2021, 6:53 AM

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ruby is expensive i'ma not learn it

shrewd prawn Aug 6, 2021, 6:53 AM

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lol

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also rust

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speaking to rust is nice

odd sluice Aug 6, 2021, 6:54 AM

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yes, it will give you tetanus

#

nice indeed

edgy crest Aug 6, 2021, 6:55 AM

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so if you want to learn zig you talk to Zig?

gritty zinc Aug 6, 2021, 6:56 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe-E

Joe-E

Joe-E is a subset of the Java programming language intended to support programming according to object-capability discipline.The language is notable for being an early object-capability subset language. It has influenced later subset languages, such as ADsafe and Caja/Cajita, subsets of Javascript.
It is also notable for allowing methods to be ...

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you know what to do

edgy crest Aug 6, 2021, 6:56 AM

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schemin

acoustic moss Aug 6, 2021, 6:56 AM

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https://www.lemon-lang.org

The Lemon Programming Language

odd sluice Aug 6, 2021, 6:57 AM

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gritty zinc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe-E

Breaking News: Joe-E becomes the primary language of arch

acoustic moss Aug 6, 2021, 6:57 AM

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no sebastiaan programming language rip

dire siren Aug 6, 2021, 6:57 AM

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joe lang when

acoustic moss Aug 6, 2021, 6:58 AM

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gritty zinc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe-E

.

shrewd prawn Aug 6, 2021, 6:58 AM

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hsp whats abnended

acoustic moss Aug 6, 2021, 6:59 AM

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banned

shrewd prawn Aug 6, 2021, 6:59 AM

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but. but no. thats just, how you spell like that

odd sluice Aug 6, 2021, 6:59 AM

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this is a c copy man (except for objects)

edgy crest Aug 6, 2021, 7:02 AM

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nothing is similar to c except the braces

gritty zinc Aug 6, 2021, 7:05 AM

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looks a lot like JS, really

rough sapphire Aug 6, 2021, 7:05 AM

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except def

tribal aurora Aug 6, 2021, 7:06 AM

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it is like you combined JS, C/C++, and python together

gritty zinc Aug 6, 2021, 7:06 AM

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var, ;, dynamic typing..

acoustic moss Aug 6, 2021, 7:06 AM

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they played both sides

odd sluice Aug 6, 2021, 7:06 AM

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wtf

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it's an amalgamation

edgy crest Aug 6, 2021, 7:07 AM

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acoustic moss they played both sides

https://tenor.com/view/both-sides-gif-18643069

Tenor

shrewd prawn Aug 6, 2021, 7:07 AM

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nooo, the "both" memes have spilled over into ot1

acoustic moss Aug 6, 2021, 7:07 AM

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yeah it literally looks like python and js mashed together lol

tribal aurora Aug 6, 2021, 7:07 AM

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# - def - print -> python
// - {} - ; -> C/C++ - JS
var -> JS

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they're even using objective-C in their code

inland wolf Aug 6, 2021, 7:09 AM

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edgy crest https://tenor.com/view/both-sides-gif-18643069

lol

dire siren Aug 6, 2021, 7:14 AM

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shrewd prawn nooo, the "both" memes have spilled over into ot1

why not both channels

dire siren Aug 6, 2021, 7:14 AM

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tribal aurora `#` - `def` - `print` -> python `//` - `{}` - `;` -> C/C++ - JS `var` -> JS

who said brackets are only for c cpp and js

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!pypi brackets

royal lakeBOT Aug 6, 2021, 7:14 AM

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brackets v0.6.2

Use curly braces instead of indenting, plus much more sugar added to Python's syntax.

tribal aurora Aug 6, 2021, 7:14 AM

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natively it isn't for py

manic moon Aug 6, 2021, 7:53 AM

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I keep getting an error, am i doing something wrong?

const API = require('kasu.nhentaiapi.js');
const api = new API(); 
    
async function sauce(){
    let id = api.pRandID;
    const val = await api.getID(id).json()
    console.log(val)
}

sauce()

(node:15708) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: TypeError: ID.replace is not a function
at main.getID (C:\Users\snowy\Documents\GitHub\Discord.js\node_modules\kasu.nhentaiapi.js\lib\main.js:28:30)
at json (C:\Users\snowy\Documents\GitHub\Discord.js\test_nhentai_api.js:6:27)
at Object.<anonymous> (C:\Users\snowy\Documents\GitHub\Discord.js\test_nhentai_api.js:10:1)
at Module._compile (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:1063:30)
at Object.Module._extensions..js (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:1092:10)
at Module.load (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:928:32)
at Function.Module._load (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:769:14)
at Function.executeUserEntryPoint [as runMain] (internal/modules/run_main.js:72:12)
at internal/main/run_main_module.js:17:47
(Use node --trace-warnings ... to show where the warning was created)
(node:15708) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: Unhandled promise rejection. This error originated either by throwing inside of an async function without a catch block, or by rejecting a promise which was not handled with .catch(). To terminate the node process on unhandled promise rejection, use the CLI flag --unhandled-rejections=strict (see https://nodejs.org/api/cli.html#cli_unhandled_rejections_mode). (rejection id: 1)
(node:15708) [DEP0018] DeprecationWarning: Unhandled promise rejections are deprecated. In the future, promise rejections that are not handled will terminate the Node.js process with a non-zero exit code.

tranquil orchid Aug 6, 2021, 7:55 AM

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Well, I can't say I'm familiar enough with JS to know this

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However

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(await api.getID(id)).json() I'd imagine you meant to do that

manic moon Aug 6, 2021, 7:57 AM

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tranquil orchid `(await api.getID(id)).json()` I'd imagine you meant to do that

Nah, that didnt do anything, thanks tho

rough sapphire Aug 6, 2021, 7:58 AM

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manic moon I keep getting an error, am i doing something wrong? ```js const API = require('...

Nice api You're trying to use extreme_thinking

inland wolf Aug 6, 2021, 8:01 AM

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manic moon I keep getting an error, am i doing something wrong? ```js const API = require('...

#ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval message

dire siren Aug 6, 2021, 8:15 AM

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wtf why are both so similar

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 9:36 AM

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you may call me crazy

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i present to you this

odd sluice Aug 6, 2021, 9:38 AM

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whytho

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Why

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youdied

odd sluice Aug 6, 2021, 9:38 AM

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odd sluice <:youdied:778002808372199508>

I*

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 9:39 AM

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opaque bronze

you what

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what have i done today to see this

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 9:40 AM

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18473036/run-gcc-preprocessor-non-c-files

Stack Overflow

Run GCC preprocessor non-C files

I'm using a proprietary development environment that compiles code written in C, as well as the IEC 61131 languages. For the C compilation, it uses GCC 4.1.2 with these build options:

-fPIC -O0 -g -

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see this masterpiece

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you'll understand

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 10:43 AM

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i could not contain myself

acoustic moss Aug 6, 2021, 11:07 AM

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what in the goddamn fuck is this

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:08 AM

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acoustic moss what in the goddamn fuck is this

c preprocessor macros

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see that #include "__py__"? thats where all the macros are

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:20 AM

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acoustic moss what in the goddamn fuck is this

you defined cpp functions.. this guy just pushed it to another level

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:20 AM

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luckily you can use the gcc preprocessor on any file

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:21 AM

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but no cursed

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:21 AM

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if you have gcc, try this ```py
gcc -E - < yourfile.py

tranquil orchid Aug 6, 2021, 11:21 AM

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from __future__ import annotations


@lambda c:c()
class __annotations__:
    def __setitem__(self, name, value):
        globals()[value] = globals()[name]


class Number:
    def __init__(self, value):
        self.value = value

    def __pos__(self):
        self.value += 0.5
        return self
    
    def __str__(self):
        return str(self.value)


let: i = Number(5)

++i
print(i)
```Just abuse Python syntax and make monsters

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:21 AM

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what does include __py__ do

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:22 AM

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spare lance what does `include __py__` do

it includes my macros

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without it this won't work

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:22 AM

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ohh... macros is?

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:23 AM

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spare lance ohh... macros is?

in c you can define macros which substitute the thing

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for example

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#define NOT_HELLO_WORLD "hello world"

printf(NOT_HELLO_WORLD)

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the not_hello_world gets subsituted by "hello world"

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the thing is, the substitution happens literally

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:25 AM

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oh so this literally does printf("hello world") ?

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pick and drop type of?

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:25 AM

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#define infiniloop while (true) {
#define end }

infiniloop 
  stuff
end
``` becomes ```c
while (true) {
   stuff
}

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:26 AM

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ah alright coool

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:26 AM

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which is what im abusing in python

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:27 AM

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so u defined macros like.. print to printf.. print("some string") to printf("%s","some string")?

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:27 AM

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spare lance so u defined macros like.. print to printf.. print("some string") to printf("%s"...

wait lemme show you the macros

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// Normal py stuff
from typing import *
from functools import reduce

#define do :
#define end 
#define puts print(
#define close )
#define let
#define foreach(var, iter) for var in iter
#define try try:
#define catch(exception) except exception:

// Aliases
#define fn lambda
#define require import 
#define ret return

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:28 AM

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ah coool

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:28 AM

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so py #include "__py__" f = fn x,y: x*y becomes ```py
f = lambda x,y: x*y

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:29 AM

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geee this is cooooool!

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:29 AM

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you can do this if you have gcc

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:29 AM

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i sound like a 7 year old.. and i dont mind.. this seems so cool

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:29 AM

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:)

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also, i also smiled like a 10 year old when i realised i could do this

tribal aurora Aug 6, 2021, 11:35 AM

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opaque bronze

what the fuck is this

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:36 AM

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tribal aurora what the fuck is this

python abuse

tribal aurora Aug 6, 2021, 11:36 AM

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why

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is that C++ or python

graceful basin Aug 6, 2021, 11:37 AM

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it's cpp running on python code

tribal aurora Aug 6, 2021, 11:38 AM

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so all of those are preprocessors

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not hard to do in C++

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:39 AM

#

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lovely python abuse

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:40 AM

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tribal aurora so all of those are preprocessors

exactly

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i just slapped a bunch of macros inside __py__ and included it

tribal aurora Aug 6, 2021, 11:40 AM

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so why do you have py syntax highlighting

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:41 AM

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because it is a python file

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it is actually python

tribal aurora Aug 6, 2021, 11:41 AM

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opaque bronze i just slapped a bunch of macros inside `__py__` and included it

but it's a comment

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:41 AM

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tribal aurora but it's a comment

yeah, but its preprocessed by a c preprocessor, so for it its not a comment

graceful basin Aug 6, 2021, 11:41 AM

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it's important to keep in mind that the cpp is completely independent from C or C++ and even has it's own tokenization rules

tribal aurora Aug 6, 2021, 11:42 AM

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c++ is cpp isn't it

graceful basin Aug 6, 2021, 11:42 AM

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cpp is the c preprocessor

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:42 AM

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graceful basin it's important to keep in mind that the cpp is completely independent from C or ...

for some reason cpp hangs for me, im using gcc -E as the preprocessor

graceful basin Aug 6, 2021, 11:42 AM

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still works

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:42 AM

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ye

graceful basin Aug 6, 2021, 11:45 AM

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it takes stdin by default

tribal aurora Aug 6, 2021, 11:45 AM

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wha

graceful basin Aug 6, 2021, 11:46 AM

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the syntax highlighting is enough reason to keep elvish, even if it is not as nice as powershell

shadow ridge Aug 6, 2021, 11:48 AM

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i made my first python package! https://test.pypi.org/project/example-pkg-InvisibleOS/0.0.1/

PyPI

example-pkg-InvisibleOS

A small example package

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there isnt anything in it so

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no use of downloading it lol

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but im just happy that i managed to upload it

graceful basin Aug 6, 2021, 11:49 AM

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nice

shadow ridge Aug 6, 2021, 11:49 AM

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ill make a new one for another project

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btw im unable to change the description

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the project description ;-;

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:51 AM

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so you can do gcc -E file.py && python3 file.py to "enjoy" the "benefits" of macros

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:51 AM

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uh so i have some code like this... (not some program code.. just a random scenario i ran across while making a program)

    if n<10:
        return "hello world"
    while True:
        yield n
        n+=1

so if i put n=2 or sumn ... it basically returns None
so i am wondering what caused it 👀...
like does type of a_func become generator and the return function will not return some value but just mark end of function? ---> if yes why does it happen so 😅

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:52 AM

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spare lance uh so i have some code like this... (not some program code.. just a random scena...

it should return "hello world" tho

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hmm

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!e ```py
def a_func(n:int):
if n<10:
return "hello world"
while True:
yield n
n+=1
print(next(a_func(2)))

royal lakeBOT Aug 6, 2021, 11:53 AM

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@opaque bronze :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 7, in <module>
003 | StopIteration: hello world

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 11:53 AM

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thats strange 🤔

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:53 AM

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yeah

rough sapphire Aug 6, 2021, 11:54 AM

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why is this strange

tribal aurora Aug 6, 2021, 11:54 AM

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why did throw an exception tho

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:54 AM

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not an exception

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it just returns none

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!e ```py
def a_func(n:int):
if n<10:
return "hello world"
while True:
yield n
n+=1
print(list(a_func(2)))

royal lakeBOT Aug 6, 2021, 11:55 AM

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@spare lance :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

[]

tribal aurora Aug 6, 2021, 11:56 AM

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why list

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:56 AM

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just to show it returns None? 🤷

rough sapphire Aug 6, 2021, 11:57 AM

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because you are not yeilding hellow world

winter terrace Aug 6, 2021, 11:57 AM

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graceful basin it's cpp running on python code

the worst of both worlds

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:57 AM

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yup it just calls stop iteration without yielding "hello world"

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but why >:((

rough sapphire Aug 6, 2021, 11:58 AM

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!e

def a_func(n:int):
    if n<10:
        yield "hello world"
    while True:
        yield n
        n+=1
print(a_func(2))

royal lakeBOT Aug 6, 2021, 11:58 AM

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@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

<generator object a_func at 0x7fbc9019e6d0>

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 11:58 AM

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use list to catch the output

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or starred

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but this will yield "hello world" yeah

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and the numbers ahead too

rough sapphire Aug 6, 2021, 12:04 PM

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!e

def a_func(n:int):
    if n<10:
        yield "hello world"
    while True:
        yield n
        n+=1
print(list(a_func(2)))

royal lakeBOT Aug 6, 2021, 12:04 PM

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@rough sapphire :warning: Your eval job timed out or ran out of memory.

[No output]

rough sapphire Aug 6, 2021, 12:04 PM

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yeah outta memory, expected.
So what is your issue @spare lance

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 12:04 PM

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rough sapphire !e ```py def a_func(n:int): if n<10: yield "hello world" while T...

while true will keep running

rough sapphire Aug 6, 2021, 12:05 PM

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yeah obviously

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 12:05 PM

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rough sapphire yeah outta memory, expected. So what is your issue <@!738369188120494080>

not issue lol.. i am wondering what return exactly does and why it doesnt do
yield "hello world" ; StopIteration

rough sapphire Aug 6, 2021, 12:06 PM

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uhm, probably someone better may help.

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 12:07 PM

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okay the answer to second is prolly that it isnt defined that way.. but what is it defined as then 👀

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 12:07 PM

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usually when you next a iterable, you expect a value or StopIteration, but not both 🥴

spare lance Aug 6, 2021, 12:08 PM

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ah hmm that could be one thing

prisma island Aug 6, 2021, 12:52 PM

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Does anyone here how knows dynamic programming?

opaque bronze Aug 6, 2021, 12:53 PM

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prisma island Does anyone here how knows dynamic programming?

the peeps in #algos-and-data-structs sure do

inland wolf Aug 6, 2021, 2:00 PM

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guys

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whats the site for monkeytype multiplayer

brazen ingot Aug 6, 2021, 2:00 PM

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uh

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they released it?

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lol I don't think so

inland wolf Aug 6, 2021, 2:01 PM

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hm

median peak Aug 6, 2021, 2:25 PM

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can i vent programming woes here?

tardy rain Aug 6, 2021, 2:25 PM

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What kind of venting are you planning to do

solid pollen Aug 6, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Blue sus saw him vent

median peak Aug 6, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Because the programming subject dropped me from the course because my code LOOKS like what someone posted online

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after 3 months of work

solid pollen Aug 6, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Uh oh

median peak Aug 6, 2021, 2:27 PM

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someone from the same course had a smart idea to post the problem on stackexchange

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I'm like collateral damage cuz i've never seen the forum post

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how do you properly detect plagiarism of code?

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is that even a thing?

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if it's word for word sure

dapper dew Aug 6, 2021, 2:29 PM

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File creation date vs stackoverflow date?

median peak Aug 6, 2021, 2:30 PM

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dapper dew File creation date vs stackoverflow date?

shit is that a metric used?

graceful basin Aug 6, 2021, 2:31 PM

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if you had a git history, it could be pretty convincing proof, that is a bit hard to fake

median peak Aug 6, 2021, 2:32 PM

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graceful basin if you had a git history, it could be pretty convincing proof, that is a bit har...

is that something to do with github? mine was always done locally so im not sure i can use that

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like i never used github or uploaded my code in any way

tardy rain Aug 6, 2021, 2:32 PM

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Yet another case for the use of git

median peak Aug 6, 2021, 2:33 PM

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tardy rain Yet another case for the use of git

noted but my god

tardy rain Aug 6, 2021, 2:33 PM

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Is this about school work

median peak Aug 6, 2021, 2:33 PM

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ye

dapper dew Aug 6, 2021, 2:33 PM

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median peak shit is that a metric used?

If you could somehow have a discussion with who is running the course it would be worth a shot

tardy rain Aug 6, 2021, 2:34 PM

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Best you can do is plead with your dept head i guess

median peak Aug 6, 2021, 2:34 PM

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it sucks so much because I have to retake if I don't fight the accusation

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the issue in question was a machine problem where it was about graphs and flows and capacities and all of that

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and the MP was split up into like subtasks and u couldn't move on from 1 subtask to the next without completing the previous one

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the reason it was flagged because it looks like I used similar variables, liked the named variables were similar in function albeit with different names

graceful basin Aug 6, 2021, 2:37 PM

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yeah, if you didn't use a version manager, that's not useful

median peak Aug 6, 2021, 2:37 PM

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graceful basin yeah, if you didn't use a version manager, that's not useful

ye thats the part that's ass im not sure if i have good enough ammo to shoot

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the only ammo I have is that the subtask where I supposedly 'plagiarized' is that it was a copy paste from the previous subtask I did, because it was basically almost the same code with a different function at the end

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my argument is that if I plagiarized the subtask in question, then why is the code in the previous subtask similar? Won't that mean the variable names in question was something I came up for myself and not copied online?

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idfk i almost got a heart attack when i received the email about the whole goddamn thing

weary tulip Aug 6, 2021, 3:22 PM

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can i go off topic in off topic

tribal aurora Aug 6, 2021, 3:22 PM

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that's why it is made for ig

solid pollen Aug 6, 2021, 3:23 PM

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You can't

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There is no topic

weary tulip Aug 6, 2021, 3:24 PM

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what

solid pollen Aug 6, 2021, 3:24 PM

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Everything is on topic

weary tulip Aug 6, 2021, 3:24 PM

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i dont like bannana that much

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but litchies are great

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can i go this off topic? py_guido

inland wolf Aug 6, 2021, 3:25 PM

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yes

weary tulip Aug 6, 2021, 3:25 PM

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so help me with potatoes

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<project xmlns="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0"
         xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
         xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 http://maven.apache.org/xsd/maven-4.0.0.xsd">
    <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>

    <groupId>org.example</groupId>
    <artifactId>JavaDiscordBot</artifactId>
    <version>1.0-SNAPSHOT</version>

    <properties>
        <maven.compiler.source>16</maven.compiler.source>
        <maven.compiler.target>16</maven.compiler.target>
    </properties>

    <repositories>
        <repository>
            <id>dv8tion</id>
            <name>m2-dv8tion</name>
            <url>https://m2.dv8tion.net/releases</url>
        </repository>
    </repositories>

    <dependencies>
        <dependency>
            <groupId>com.sedmelluq</groupId>
            <artifactId>lavaplayer</artifactId>
            <version>1.3.77</version>
        </dependency>
    </dependencies>


</project>```

error in groupid and artifactid and version

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copied from docs

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placed in right place

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but why are the potatoes not frying

shadow ridge Aug 6, 2021, 3:38 PM

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not to mention, the only messages i get in the help channels that i open are "help channel has been marked dormant" messages

weary tulip Aug 6, 2021, 3:40 PM

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looks like u also like going absolute off topic

tardy rain Aug 6, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Have you considered asking better questions

fringe tulip Aug 6, 2021, 3:47 PM

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I'm making a windows assistant, anyone have ideas for some features I could add?

weary tulip Aug 6, 2021, 3:49 PM

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fringe tulip I'm making a windows assistant, anyone have ideas for some features I could add?

elaborate the mango

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i mean ur windows assistant

rough sapphire Aug 6, 2021, 3:49 PM

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weary tulip looks like u also like going absolute off topic

off topic in off topic channel joe_salute

weary tulip Aug 6, 2021, 3:49 PM

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yes

solemn leaf Aug 6, 2021, 4:21 PM

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any usb bluetooth adapter recommendations

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ffs

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5.0 if possible

rugged echo Aug 6, 2021, 4:36 PM

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it's all objects
i know this isn't a meme dump, but there are no ongoing convos so i'm starting one with this meme

solemn leaf Aug 6, 2021, 4:42 PM

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rugged echo *it's all objects* i know this isn't a meme dump, but there are no ongoing convo...

bruh

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dont
block
my
problem ffs

rugged echo Aug 6, 2021, 4:42 PM

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solemn leaf dont block my problem ffs

bruh no one answered you in 15 minutes, of course i can start a new conversation

solemn leaf Aug 6, 2021, 4:43 PM

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lol jk

sullen condor Aug 6, 2021, 4:47 PM

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rugged echo *it's all objects* i know this isn't a meme dump, but there are no ongoing convo...

Looking at games
Wait,it's all quaternions?

rugged echo Aug 6, 2021, 4:47 PM

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sullen condor Looking at games Wait,it's all quaternions?

wait, it's all hypercomplex algebra?

sullen condor Aug 6, 2021, 4:48 PM

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I used to get so confused with unity trying to multiply vectors and quaternions

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I used to multiply the quaternion by the vector (smort)

hybrid pivot Aug 6, 2021, 5:30 PM

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im making my own "isnt" function in python

rugged echo Aug 6, 2021, 6:24 PM

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hybrid pivot im making my own "isnt" function in python

nah, don't make a function - that isn't fun.
~~instead, modify the cpython grammar file and create a isnt keyword yourself with custom behaviour~~

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just fork this repo https://github.com/python/cpython and you'll be on your way

tardy rain Aug 6, 2021, 6:26 PM

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Make a new operator ==nt

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Tests for inequality

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Oh fuck wait we already got that

royal lakeBOT Aug 6, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Hey @proper harness!

It looks like you tried to attach a Python file - please use a code-pasting service such as https://paste.pythondiscord.com

proper harness Aug 6, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Made a sorting algorithm from scratch cuz why not

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https://paste.pythondiscord.com/cibawixepo.yaml

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wanted to see what type it is

inland wolf Aug 6, 2021, 6:41 PM

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DomgSort

graceful basin Aug 6, 2021, 6:43 PM

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that's a less optmised variant of the selection sort as far as I can tell

fickle dirge Aug 6, 2021, 7:48 PM

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got a core i7-2600 with no box or anything

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how much could i sell it for on ebay

proper harness Aug 6, 2021, 8:06 PM

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graceful basin that's a less optmised variant of the selection sort as far as I can tell

Hmmm so its different

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so I can name it

viscid hemlock Aug 6, 2021, 8:30 PM

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Perfect, and just like that MeSort was made. Because "it was made by me" according to its author.

proper harness Aug 6, 2021, 8:34 PM

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And normal b is boring so German s it is

hybrid pivot Aug 6, 2021, 8:57 PM

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rugged echo nah, don't make a function - that isn't fun. ~~*instead, modify the cpython gram...

hell. yes.

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gonna learn cython first tho

viscid hemlock Aug 6, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Does anybody know where I can read about the current lifetimes of all Python versions?

hybrid pivot Aug 6, 2021, 11:36 PM

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yeah so uh

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i may or maynot need help

eager trout Aug 7, 2021, 1:49 AM

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@rancid aspen

rancid aspen Aug 7, 2021, 1:49 AM

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hello

eager trout Aug 7, 2021, 1:49 AM

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You can't get viruses on an ipad

rancid aspen Aug 7, 2021, 1:49 AM

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so my cmd keeps opening and my computer crashes after maybe 10 seconds

rancid aspen Aug 7, 2021, 1:49 AM

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eager trout You can't get viruses on an ipad

ooh

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my iphone is jailbroken can that get viruses?

eager trout Aug 7, 2021, 1:49 AM

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probably not

rancid aspen Aug 7, 2021, 1:49 AM

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thats good

frail badge Aug 7, 2021, 1:50 AM

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You should've downloaded a paid antivirus cracked version and gotten a virus from there brainmon

rancid aspen Aug 7, 2021, 1:50 AM

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why would i pay for a virus

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when i can get one for free?

frail badge Aug 7, 2021, 1:50 AM

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true

eager trout Aug 7, 2021, 1:51 AM

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rancid aspen when i can get one for free?

malwarebytes

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It's paid but can be used after the trial

rancid aspen Aug 7, 2021, 1:51 AM

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does it delete a virus

eager trout Aug 7, 2021, 1:51 AM

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Just do a quick run, that should solve everything

frail badge Aug 7, 2021, 1:51 AM

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eager trout Just do a quick run, that should solve everything

(theyre trolling)

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they were before too

rancid aspen Aug 7, 2021, 1:51 AM

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the thing is i cant download because my computer crashes before i can do anything

timid frigate Aug 7, 2021, 1:52 AM

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rancid aspen when i can get one for free?

welcome to the life of windows users

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the os with builtin keyloggers

hybrid pivot Aug 7, 2021, 2:22 AM

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i have an counter point to end everything

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why care if it isn't yours?

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"hey why are you using a json instead of a db in your project(dummy)"
"why care if it isnt your project"

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why do you stir 3 sugar cubes instead of 2?

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why care if it isnt yours!!!!!

proper harness Aug 7, 2021, 2:29 AM

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hybrid pivot Aug 7, 2021, 2:54 AM

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ITS A GOOD IDEA

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just like isnt™️

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and deval™️

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and dexec™️

thick osprey Aug 7, 2021, 4:47 AM

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@shell raptor @wise schooner I completely botched the paste in pygen. This is the "fun" javascript gift a friend showed me. the 0/0+ makes all the difference

0/0+([]+1/0)[!+[]+!+[]+(+!+[])]

wise schooner Aug 7, 2021, 4:48 AM

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pehehehe that expression is overpowered

gritty zinc Aug 7, 2021, 5:28 AM

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I wonder... how does Python's speed compare to C# in a scenario like "loading a ton of rows from a database and making each row into an instance of a certain class"?..

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in both of them it should involve expensive stuff like multiple memory allocations per object, etc, so I wonder how much faster C# is there.

timid frigate Aug 7, 2021, 5:58 AM

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c# will be faster

inland wolf Aug 7, 2021, 6:20 AM

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thick osprey <@!461097636791844865> <@!612527741501177857> I completely botched the paste in ...

bruh

twin charm Aug 7, 2021, 6:21 AM

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thick osprey <@!461097636791844865> <@!612527741501177857> I completely botched the paste in ...

what does this actually do?

acoustic moss Aug 7, 2021, 6:26 AM

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0/0 becomes NaN
1/0 becomes Infinity, doing [] + 1/0 makes it "Infinity"
!+[] is true, or 1, so !+[]+!+[]+!+[] becomes 3
so ([] + 1/0)[!+[]+!+[]+!+[]] becomes "Infinity"[3], i.e. "i"
then 0/0 + "i" becomes NaN + "i", "NaNi"

inland wolf Aug 7, 2021, 6:28 AM

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bruh

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wtf

twin charm Aug 7, 2021, 6:38 AM

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too advanced

latent scaffold Aug 7, 2021, 6:39 AM

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too stoopit

twin charm Aug 7, 2021, 6:39 AM

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inland wolf Aug 7, 2021, 6:39 AM

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acoustic moss `0/0` becomes `NaN` `1/0` becomes `Infinity`, doing `[] + 1/0` makes it `"Infini...

"Infinity"[3]*

floral apex Aug 7, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Folding is nice

tranquil orchid Aug 7, 2021, 7:02 AM

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I don't think I've ever used it

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I just wanna see my stuff

latent scaffold Aug 7, 2021, 7:05 AM

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I fold when I have like a massive class or something

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and I there's code that I don't want to edit that only makes everything look messier than it is

gritty zinc Aug 7, 2021, 7:05 AM

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I often use it for codingame bots

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because it allows only one file

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so all of my 1000+ lines of Rust are in one file lemon_grimace

tranquil orchid Aug 7, 2021, 7:10 AM

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👀

weary tulip Aug 7, 2021, 8:23 AM

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hi

topaz aurora Aug 7, 2021, 8:51 AM

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VS Code™ sure is nice

dire siren Aug 7, 2021, 9:31 AM

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anyone else make all tables and values in sql caps

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or is it just me

modern haven Aug 7, 2021, 9:42 AM

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What no 😂 the keywords are caps but the names shouldn't be lmao

dire siren Aug 7, 2021, 9:45 AM

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YES IT'S PROBABLY JUST ME TOO LAZY TO TURN OFF CAPS LOCK (OOPS)

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100% UNINTENTIONAL

spare lance Aug 7, 2021, 10:20 AM

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modern haven What no 😂 the keywords are caps but the names shouldn't be lmao

wait keywords need to be caps? i thought it wasnt case sensitive

dire siren Aug 7, 2021, 10:20 AM

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spare lance wait keywords need to be caps? i thought it wasnt case sensitive

nah i don't think so

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but i think most sql developer do caps on keywords like insert into

spare lance Aug 7, 2021, 10:22 AM

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yeah prolly

latent scaffold Aug 7, 2021, 10:26 AM

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I think my days of bad posturing have finally caught up with me

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I woke up cause my shoulder feels so much like it just needs to pop, but she refuses

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It may or may not be 4:27

noble atlas Aug 7, 2021, 10:32 AM

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latent scaffold It may or may not be 4:27

may not be 4:27?

latent scaffold Aug 7, 2021, 10:33 AM

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Well not anymore but it was for my

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Me*

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4:33 AM right now D:

noble atlas Aug 7, 2021, 10:33 AM

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hmm

latent scaffold Aug 7, 2021, 10:35 AM

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Anyways, my other shoulder is also really sore now cause I got my second dose of the vaccine

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Arm more than shoulder, I guess

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Either way, pain on either side lemon_angrysad

edgy crest Aug 7, 2021, 10:41 AM

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i switched to xubuntu

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def better than manjaro stonks

tranquil orchid Aug 7, 2021, 10:44 AM

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I'm thinking about wiping my PC tomorrow and then dual booting windows and probably a new linux distro to try it out

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I've heard trying to dual boot with windows after having already installed Linux is a pain, and I don't actually have a heap of stuff stored on my PC, so wiping it will probably be the fastest way

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I'll just backup what I want

rain pebble Aug 7, 2021, 10:56 AM

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tranquil orchid I'm thinking about wiping my PC tomorrow and then dual booting windows and proba...

which distro

tranquil orchid Aug 7, 2021, 11:51 AM

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Not too sure yet, but I think I'll go with something more stable this time

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Haven't been a huge fan of rolling release

proper harness Aug 7, 2021, 11:54 AM

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spare lance wait keywords need to be caps? i thought it wasnt case sensitive

Yeah its case insensitive, but having them capitalised looks nicer

edgy crest Aug 7, 2021, 12:09 PM

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tranquil orchid Haven't been a huge fan of rolling release

same

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i am liking a ubuntu flavour much more

tranquil orchid Aug 7, 2021, 12:10 PM

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Yeah I'm probably going to go with something like that

wise schooner Aug 7, 2021, 12:10 PM

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hmmmmmmmm

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i wanna try https://pearos.xyz/ once

pearOS - Official Website

pearOS is a linux distribution that aims for UI and UX, offering a mac like feeling, now even on older PCs. Why hackintosh when you can pearintosh? Try it now, it's free!

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it's ubuntu based 👀

tranquil orchid Aug 7, 2021, 12:12 PM

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I might go for Kubuntu or something

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I do like kde

last mantle Aug 7, 2021, 12:32 PM

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why pearintosh when KDE plasma skin

dire siren Aug 7, 2021, 1:04 PM

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quite confused with license stuffs rn

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https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-python
^
i think this extension for vscode uses pylint (gpl license) but the extension is marked with mit license

GitHub

GitHub - microsoft/vscode-python: Python extension for Visual Studi...

Python extension for Visual Studio Code. Contribute to microsoft/vscode-python development by creating an account on GitHub.

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nvm the pylint might not be included in the source

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it's 99% running the cli of pylint

viscid hemlock Aug 7, 2021, 1:09 PM

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I think that would make sense in terms of licensing

dire siren Aug 7, 2021, 1:09 PM

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oh great so i don't have to include pylint in my source

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but actually requesting the user to install it and use it in my program?

viscid hemlock Aug 7, 2021, 1:10 PM

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Are you use PyLint isn't LGPL?

dire siren Aug 7, 2021, 1:10 PM

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seems to be gpl

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https://github.com/PyCQA/pylint

viscid hemlock Aug 7, 2021, 1:11 PM

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Hmm, alright. Because I remember there being issues with if you use a library you also need to release under GPL? Like if a module is used as GPL

dire siren Aug 7, 2021, 1:12 PM

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yea i think so

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i think it's the "same license" part

viscid hemlock Aug 7, 2021, 1:14 PM

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Could be different when you use a CLI, vs like using a module's functions.

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Either way, if your project relies of PyLint for linting and you just have people download it seperately. I am pretty sure that should be okay.

dire siren Aug 7, 2021, 1:15 PM

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hm thanks

modern haven Aug 7, 2021, 1:15 PM

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spare lance wait keywords need to be caps? i thought it wasnt case sensitive

It doesn't need to be but it's common practice I think

dire siren Aug 7, 2021, 1:16 PM

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YEA I THINK MOST PEOPLE USES CAPS FOR KEYWORDS IN SQL

spare lance Aug 7, 2021, 1:17 PM

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modern haven It doesn't need to be but it's common practice I think

yeah but.... i have got some problems with common practices

modern haven Aug 7, 2021, 1:17 PM

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Lmao

modern haven Aug 7, 2021, 1:17 PM

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dire siren YEA I THINK MOST PEOPLE USES CAPS FOR KEYWORDS IN SQL

AGREED

wise schooner Aug 7, 2021, 1:19 PM

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dire siren YEA I THINK MOST PEOPLE USES CAPS FOR KEYWORDS IN SQL

rough sapphire Aug 7, 2021, 2:48 PM

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it's mr sentdex's chat bot

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it's high today

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dire siren Aug 7, 2021, 2:54 PM

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rough sapphire it's high today

~~always has been~~

thin swallow Aug 7, 2021, 3:53 PM

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Input/Data:

13/07/2021, 9:52 pm - 0124873: Lorem
13/07/2021, 9:52 pm - 1894738: Ipsum
14/07/2021, 9:20 pm - Ahadb: Multiline!

Lorem!
Ipsum!

Dolor!

How I want this data:
['13/07/2021, 9:52 pm - 0124873: Lorem', '13/07/2021, 9:52 pm - 1894738: Ipsum', '14/07/2021, 9:20 pm - Ahadb: Multiline!\n\nLorem!\nIpsum!\n\nDolor!']

Could anyone point me in the direction of any regex specific tokens that might help me do this?

last mantle Aug 7, 2021, 4:11 PM

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rough sapphire

lol

harsh tundra Aug 7, 2021, 4:17 PM

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thin swallow Input/Data: ``` 13/07/2021, 9:52 pm - 0124873: Lorem 13/07/2021, 9:52 pm - 18947...

do everything from date format to next date format

thin swallow Aug 7, 2021, 4:18 PM

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harsh tundra do everything from date format to next date format

any clue how i would do that? Can't find any tokens to help me

harsh tundra Aug 7, 2021, 4:29 PM

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thin swallow any clue how i would do that? Can't find any tokens to help me

positive lookahead works for "look for next date" but doesn't work on last entry because it doesn't have a next date...
https://regex101.com/r/9H51TW/1 this is what works for anything (including multiline) but the last one

regex101

regex101: build, test, and debug regex

Regular expression tester with syntax highlighting, explanation, cheat sheet for PHP/PCRE, Python, GO, JavaScript, Java. Features a regex quiz & library.

thin swallow Aug 7, 2021, 4:32 PM

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hmm thanks! ill try and see if i can modify something in order to make it work!

latent scaffold Aug 7, 2021, 8:56 PM

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edgy crest def better than manjaro <:stonks:854291397141725184>

:O

latent scaffold Aug 7, 2021, 8:59 PM

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tranquil orchid I do like kde

openSUSE KDE is pretty great, I might suggest also trying out Leap

dire siren Aug 8, 2021, 3:54 AM

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wait does 0% exists

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i think itll cause zero division error

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because % is equal to divided by 100 am i correct?

rough sapphire Aug 8, 2021, 3:56 AM

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jesus christ no

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x% of y = y*x/100

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so if x=0
0% of y = y*0/100 = 0

dire siren Aug 8, 2021, 3:57 AM

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but what if its y*(0/100)

rough sapphire Aug 8, 2021, 3:58 AM

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so how is 0 in the bottom?

edgy crest Aug 8, 2021, 3:58 AM

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ye

junior basin Aug 8, 2021, 4:00 AM

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dire siren but what if its y*(0/100)

That is 0 divided by 100, not 100 divided by 0

dire siren Aug 8, 2021, 4:01 AM

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oops i made an oopsie

solemn leaf Aug 8, 2021, 5:04 AM

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guy wanted to reach infinity

inland wolf Aug 8, 2021, 5:10 AM

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landed at 0

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PensiveFluent

odd sluice Aug 8, 2021, 5:13 AM

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why do i find it funny that microsoft community has less members than r/apple discord

spare lance Aug 8, 2021, 5:26 AM

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surprisingly lot of mods are offline atm.. sunday = rest :yes:

odd sluice Aug 8, 2021, 5:29 AM

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tru

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or they're sleeping

spare lance Aug 8, 2021, 5:44 AM

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sleeping = rest too

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sleeping is fun

acoustic moss Aug 8, 2021, 6:22 AM

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unbased scoping in python

In [1]: x = []; i = 0

In [2]: while i <= 2:
   ...:     x.append(lambda: i)
   ...:     i += 1
   ...:

In [3]: x[0](), x[1](), x[2]()
Out[3]: (3, 3, 3)

based scoping in julia

julia> x = Vector{Any}(undef, 3); i = 1;

julia> while i <= 3
           let i = i
               x[i] = () -> i
           end
           i += 1
       end

julia> (x[1](), x[2](), x[3]())
(1, 2, 3)

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In [4]: x = []; i = 0

In [5]: while i <= 2:
   ...:     x.append(lambda i=i: i)
   ...:     i += 1
   ...:

In [6]: x[0](), x[1](), x[2]()
Out[6]: (0, 1, 2)

wack

quick ledge Aug 8, 2021, 6:28 AM

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spare lance surprisingly lot of mods are offline atm.. sunday = rest :yes:

lies

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we are in shadows

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watching 👁️

acoustic moss Aug 8, 2021, 6:28 AM

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you are resting in the shadows

quick ledge Aug 8, 2021, 6:28 AM

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😠

rough sapphire Aug 8, 2021, 6:28 AM

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quick ledge we are in shadows

~~they talked about human mods~~

quick ledge Aug 8, 2021, 6:29 AM

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😠

floral apex Aug 8, 2021, 7:00 AM

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https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=huacat.office-theme What a funky theme here

Office Theme - Visual Studio Marketplace

Extension for Visual Studio Code - Microsoft Office(like) theme for VScode

solemn leaf Aug 8, 2021, 7:02 AM

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acoustic moss unbased scoping in python ```py In [1]: x = []; i = 0 In [2]: while i <= 2: ...

!e

x = []
for i in range(3):
    x.append(lambda i=i: print(i))

for c in x:
    c() # 0, 1, 2


x = []
for i in range(3):
    x.append(lambda: print(i))

for c in x:
    c() # 2, 2, 2

royal lakeBOT Aug 8, 2021, 7:02 AM

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@solemn leaf :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

solemn leaf Aug 8, 2021, 7:03 AM

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bypass late binding 😎 with i=i

acoustic moss Aug 8, 2021, 7:03 AM

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acoustic moss ```py In [4]: x = []; i = 0 In [5]: while i <= 2: ...: x.append(lambda i...

.

solemn leaf Aug 8, 2021, 7:04 AM

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acoustic moss .

based scoping in julia
proceeds to send python

acoustic moss Aug 8, 2021, 7:05 AM

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sends julia too

solemn leaf Aug 8, 2021, 7:05 AM

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ok

inland wolf Aug 8, 2021, 7:08 AM

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floral apex https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=huacat.office-theme What a f...

interesting

opal atlas Aug 8, 2021, 7:22 AM

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I love this community

tranquil orchid Aug 8, 2021, 7:23 AM

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@tacit shore Well JS and Python more or less cover all of those, except for mobile app development

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Which you'd probably want kotlin or java for on android, and swift or objective-c on ios

tacit shore Aug 8, 2021, 7:24 AM

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hmm

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is swift only for

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IOS

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apps

tranquil orchid Aug 8, 2021, 7:25 AM

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I think it's only for IOS, or at least was built for that

tacit shore Aug 8, 2021, 7:26 AM

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hmm

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ok

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i know some of react js

floral apex Aug 8, 2021, 7:57 AM

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tranquil orchid I *think* it's only for IOS, or at least was built for that

Last time I checked Swift has downloads for other platforms

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https://swift.org/download/#releases Even on Windows it's available

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I guess it's just much more ideal on Apple's platform though

austere forum Aug 8, 2021, 8:10 AM

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the name #ot1-perplexing-regexing sounds painful...

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@topaz aurorawait, weren't you a mod before? ping me when replying

topaz aurora Aug 8, 2021, 8:23 AM

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austere forum <@!183968495636185088>wait, weren't you a mod before? _ping me when replying_

On vacation

austere forum Aug 8, 2021, 8:23 AM

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topaz aurora On vacation

Ohhh, alr

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i was surprised lol

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alr

remote citrus Aug 8, 2021, 12:41 PM

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Happens with nearly everybody ig

tranquil orchid Aug 8, 2021, 12:43 PM

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If you study well you can just have a lower flat line

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Instead of dying come exam time

remote citrus Aug 8, 2021, 12:44 PM

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tranquil orchid If you study well you can just have a lower flat line

I have adopted to your suggestion recently

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I use pomodoro technique

harsh tundra Aug 8, 2021, 12:50 PM

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I hate coffee but this is the best coffee

spare lance Aug 8, 2021, 12:50 PM

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harsh tundra I hate coffee but this is the best coffee

Looks great 👀

remote citrus Aug 8, 2021, 12:50 PM

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👀

spare lance Aug 8, 2021, 12:51 PM

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remote citrus Happens with nearly everybody ig

Depends if I want to pass or wanna score 👀👀

harsh tundra Aug 8, 2021, 12:52 PM

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spare lance Looks great 👀

Tastes great as well because it's Irish coffee. With whisky, lol

remote citrus Aug 8, 2021, 12:52 PM

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spare lance Depends if I want to pass or wanna score 👀👀

true lol

spare lance Aug 8, 2021, 12:53 PM

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harsh tundra Tastes great as well because it's Irish coffee. With whisky, lol

Coffee with whiskey... Well that's weird... Should try

harsh tundra Aug 8, 2021, 12:53 PM

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spare lance Coffee with whiskey... Well that's weird... Should try

Coffee + sugar (our own honey in my case) + some whisky + soft whipped cream layer

spare lance Aug 8, 2021, 12:54 PM

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harsh tundra Coffee + sugar (our own honey in my case) + some whisky + soft whipped cream lay...

Did you type the recipe already

harsh tundra Aug 8, 2021, 12:54 PM

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Soft whipped == whipped so it's light but still liquidy

harsh tundra Aug 8, 2021, 12:54 PM

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spare lance Did you type the recipe already

I was writing it already when you said, so I just hit reply, yes

remote citrus Aug 8, 2021, 12:54 PM

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harsh tundra Coffee + sugar (our own honey in my case) + some whisky + soft whipped cream lay...

Your own recipie?

harsh tundra Aug 8, 2021, 12:55 PM

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remote citrus Your own recipie?

Adapted from Internet ^^

spare lance Aug 8, 2021, 12:55 PM

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harsh tundra Soft whipped == whipped so it's light but still liquidy

Ahh

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Might have to skip the whiskey part till 18 tho 👀

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Uh no wait it was 21