ot1-perplexing-regexing

[carmine niche]

quantum mechanics

[reef geyser]

because wave functions

[vocal path]

Pls don't kill cats

[carmine niche]

it's just a metaphor

[vocal path]

I have a pet cat

[odd sluice]

ah yes electrons are worth a cat

[vocal path]

Oh

[carmine niche]

I've got two

[reef geyser]

the double slit experiment, but you send the cat through instead

[vocal path]

Cat in both the state of dead and alive

At the same time

Until you observe it

[carmine niche]

rather, it's in a superposition between alive and dead, and when you open the box you force it into one or the other by collapsing the wave function, and in doing do there is a calculable probability that it will collapse one way or the other

[carmine niche]

nah

[vocal path]

Yeah that

[reef geyser]

or you don't collapse it at all, and decoherence kicks in and makes both events happen anyway in different "worlds"

[carmine niche]

thinking of superposition as being in two states at the same time is less than helpful

rather, superposition is a state in its own right, which collapses into a concrete state when observed

this is made most explicit in how measuring qubits in quantum computers works

[vocal path]

Quantum stuff

[carmine niche]

i made a simple quantum entanglement program once and ran it on one of ibm's quantum computers

[vocal path]

random.randint will work better on quantum computer I guess

[carmine niche]

ibm is a very cringe company

typical big tech corp stuff
anticompetitive practices
bad to their employees

[reef geyser]

yeah, IBM is very big no-no

[carmine niche]

example: there was a big scandal some months back where they practically fired a guy cuz he forgot to switch to his work email before committing something to the internal git repo cuz it was "unprofessional"

i don't have any idea, ask in a proper python help channel maybe?

[reef geyser]

"As an IBM employee, you are not allowed to use your gmail account to work in any way on VNIC. You are not allowed to use your personal email account as a "hobby". You are an IBM employee 100% of the time. Please remove yourself completely from the maintainers file. I grant you a 1 time exception on contributions to VNIC to make this change."

Do you perhaps mean this?

Because yeah, this super sucked lmao

[carmine niche]

yep

[reef geyser]

"You are an IBM employee 100% of the time" lol

[spare lance]

what is this bs

[reef geyser]

corporate shenanigans: the reckoning

now in theatres

[carmine niche]

they ordered him to remove all trace of him ever having committed a single line of code and then, it is assumed they fired him

[carmine niche]

late stage capitalism

[spare lance]

corporate problems bad

[carmine niche]

capitalism bad

anyway goodnight i need sleep i think

it's 02:42 am

[reef geyser]

you think >_>

[carmine niche]

hhhhhhh

[reef geyser]

2am is not sleeping time

for me at least

but yeah, go get ya sleep

[shrewd prawn]

when do you sleep 👀

[inland wolf]

yesterday

[rough sapphire]

👀

[shrewd prawn]

i mean, last time i slept was technically yesterday

[inland wolf]

yes

[spare lance]

but u woke up today

[shrewd prawn]

no i woke up yesterday

[inland wolf]

bruh

[shrewd prawn]

i went to bed yesterday too

[reef geyser]

when I feel like it

[shrewd prawn]

fair

[reef geyser]

exactly

[odd sluice]

I just noticed that you have a gun in your pfp
took me long enough to figure that out

[spare lance]

but do u ever feel sleepy

[odd sluice]

a bazooka*

[reef geyser]

not a bazooka

an m32 rotary grenade launcher

[spare lance]

grenade launcher

[odd sluice]

ah i see
or more accurate I don't see

[reef geyser]

prepare to be yoinked from reality

[reef geyser]

on occasion, yes

[spare lance]

ur pfp seems like its eating something while yeeting people off the world.. interesting correlation with about

[solid pollen]

!otn a yoinked from reality

[royal lake]

:ok_hand: Added yoinked-from-reality to the names list.

[reef geyser]

back at it again with a new ot name

yes yes, thank you

I'll be here for the next 3.4 seconds

[timid frigate]

How do off-topic names change?

[odd sluice]

bot

changes it at utc 00:00

[acoustic moss]

ye

[timid frigate]

What's the list, and how are they picked?

[solemn leaf]

random

like mah bot 😎

[odd sluice]

!halp

no

i meant !halp

!halp

no

[timid frigate]

I mean, how are the ones that you add to the list chosen?

[odd sluice]

randomly

[solemn leaf]

await ctx.channel.edit(random.choice(json.load(f)['names']))

ez leaks

[odd sluice]

why u do dis

my eyes

[solemn leaf]

cauz i have this

[odd sluice]

are burning

[solemn leaf]

ok

[timid frigate]

why?

that's good code

[solemn leaf]

guess the next line after this

[timid frigate]

return

[solemn leaf]

asyncio.sleep(86400)

[timid frigate]

lmao

[solemn leaf]

lmao

[odd sluice]

NO

use tasks

PLEASE

[solemn leaf]

ikr

[odd sluice]

MY EYEEEEEEEES

[timid frigate]

I have some good code for you in a sec

[solemn leaf]

oki

[spare lance]

thats a day

[solemn leaf]

ikr

well you can use sleep_until

better alternative for daily task

[spare lance]

!src otn

[royal lake]

Command: otname

Add or list items from the off-topic channel name rotation.

Source Code

Go to GitHub

bot/exts/fun/off_topic_names.py:67

[spare lance]

await sleep_until(next_midnight)
bruh

[solemn leaf]

not like that

await bot.sleep_until(time delta)

and then you need to update time delta + 1 day

for it to work

so asyncio sleep is better anyway 🛐

[edgy crest]

could have said 3.14

[acoustic moss]

nerd

[edgy crest]

inb4

[spare lance]

that emote should be :openthefuckupimmaremoveurteeth:

[edgy crest]

no

[spare lance]

but yes

[inland wolf]

:unshu

[spare lance]

guys what are web hooks >:((

[jovial kelp]

i have 0 words for this code... I have 0 words for this code... https://paste.pythondiscord.com/povubohugu.apache

wdym?

[acoustic moss]

amateurs
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/fovumutaji.py

[jovial kelp]

to be fair, mine's an entire game (although it's not working right now)

[acoustic moss]

mine's an entire cog of a discord bot heh

lol

[jovial kelp]

and mine would be that length, just... i don't know how to shorten if statements or classes or anything like that-

[royal lake]

@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

Utah bread

[acoustic moss]

lmfao

[jovial kelp]

are you serious-

[acoustic moss]

classes can be one-lined with the type constructor

[jovial kelp]

I don't know anything about constructors mate, I've been coding for 4 months 😎

[royal lake]

type

class type(object)``````py

class type(name, bases, dict, **kwds)```
With one argument, return the type of an *object*. The return value is a type object and generally the same object as returned by [`object.__class__`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#instance.__class__ "instance.__class__").

The [`isinstance()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#isinstance "isinstance") built-in function is recommended for testing the type of an object, because it takes subclasses into account.

Similar names: term.type, token.type, numpy.type, np.type

[acoustic moss]

class A(BaseClass):
  def __init__(self, a):
    self.a = a

is equivalent to

A = type("A", (BaseClass,), {"__init__": lambda self, a: setattr(self, 'a', a)})

for example

[spare lance]

yeah i always wondered how that works since u keep sending those weirdly made classes

[acoustic moss]

my secrets have been revealed

[jovial kelp]

i never bothered to learn about lambda either lmaoooo

[acoustic moss]

essentially a one line function with no name

[jovial kelp]

ugh i probably should tho-

[royal lake]

lambda

An anonymous inline function consisting of a single expression which is evaluated when the function is called. The syntax to create a lambda function is lambda [parameters]: expression

Similar names: label.lambda

[spare lance]

**kwds? kwargs? but what for?

[acoustic moss]

dunno

possibly for things like metaclasses

[jovial kelp]

well no i mean i did basic stuff, i just... don't know how to make one really? I can semi understand one

[acoustic moss]

oh nvm

[jovial kelp]

what in the world is a metaclass?

[spare lance]

time to run help

[acoustic moss]

nah kwargs wouldn't be for metaclasses

[spare lance]

and spyder is dead slow

[acoustic moss]

if a class is a blueprint for its objects, a metaclass is a blueprint for classes

[jovial kelp]

how in the world-

noted

WHAT IS A PROTOCOL

whaaa

[royal lake]

typing.Protocol

class typing.Protocol(Generic)```
Base class for protocol classes. Protocol classes are defined like this:

```py
class Proto(Protocol):
    def meth(self) -> int:
        ...
```  Such classes are primarily used with static type checkers that recognize structural subtyping (static duck-typing), for example...

[tranquil orchid]

What on earth is happening in here 👀

[jovial kelp]

this... isn't okay

[acoustic moss]

!e

class MyMeta(type):
  def __add__(self, other):
    return 5

class A(metaclass=MyMeta): pass
class B(metaclass=MyMeta): pass

print(A + B)

[royal lake]

@acoustic moss :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

5

[acoustic moss]

no

inheritance is different

[spare lance]

but either way u would included them in bases right?

[jovial kelp]

ouuuuu sounds interesting.. but i still don't know about generators really or hell the only dunder method i know is __init__() so... yeah ;-;

[tranquil orchid]

He's adding the classes there, not the instances

[acoustic moss]

yeah

[jovial kelp]

what? 🥲

[acoustic moss]

if a class B inherited from A, instances of B would follow the blueprint laid down by both A and B

if a class B has a metaclass A, instances of B are unaffected, but B itself follows the blueprint laid by A

[spare lance]

hsp at this point u scaring lmao

[tranquil orchid]

metaclasses allow you to change the class itself, inheritence will allow you to inherit attributes, methods etc from another class that will be reflected in the class instances

[acoustic moss]

sure

[acoustic moss]

the __add__ dunder dictates how a + b would work when a is an instance of that class

[tranquil orchid]

!e

class MetaStuff:
    def __init__(*letsjustignorethis):
        print("Makin classes")
    
    def __call__(cls):
        print("Hello world")

class HelloWorld(metaclass=MetaStuff):
    ...


HelloWorld()

[royal lake]

@tranquil orchid :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | Makin classes
002 | Hello world

[spare lance]

so basically metaclass tells how the class behaves and interacts with other classes or stuff?

[odd sluice]

black formatter*

[acoustic moss]

yes

exactly

not necessarily with other classes

just how a class itself behaves

[spare lance]

ohh

[jovial kelp]

this... does indeed put a scary smile on my face... (learning is fun to me, so hearing i have more to learn is just heheheheh yes.) (at the same time tho it's scary ;-;)

[spare lance]

interesting

[tranquil orchid]

classes are objects to, metaclasses are basically just classes... for your classes

[acoustic moss]

ye

[jovial kelp]

whoaaaa, that dunder is __radd__

[acoustic moss]

if you do a + b and there is no __add__ defined for a, it'll call __radd__ of b

🤔 are they?

oh fuck obv

[jovial kelp]

wait what- just how many dunders are there...

[acoustic moss]

more than i can count

[dire siren]

two lots, not just one

[spare lance]

why cls arg in __call__ ?

[acoustic moss]

i'm estimating at least 100

[tranquil orchid]

Because the class is passed to it

Think of it like self

[spare lance]

ah

hmm

[tranquil orchid]

class float(float):
    def __invert__(self):
        return f"it's about {round(self)}"

a = float(12.6234)

print(~a)

best dunder

[jovial kelp]

there's 200+ modules in python... (and counting)

[tranquil orchid]

!e

class float(float):
    def __invert__(self):
        return f"it's about {round(self)}"

a = float(12.6234)

print(~a)

[royal lake]

@tranquil orchid :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

it's about 13

[acoustic moss]

lol

is there a default ~ for floats or is it just for ints 🤔

[tranquil orchid]

I don't think so

[acoustic moss]

!e ~1.1

[royal lake]

@acoustic moss :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 | TypeError: bad operand type for unary ~: 'float'

[rough sapphire]

Only ints

[acoustic moss]

hm

[jovial kelp]

wait... print(~a)??? what's up with the grave-

[acoustic moss]

its the bitwise not operator

flips all bits in an int

in this case he implemented it to do something else but wtv

[dire siren]

!e

class int(int):
  def __invert__(self):
    return f"it's about {self}.1"
a = int("1")

print(~a)

:(

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

it's about 1.1

[jovial kelp]

I guess I'll add a bitwise to my to learn list too ;-;

[dire siren]

yay

[acoustic moss]

heh, the bitwise operators aren't that important

[spare lance]

they told me it did -(self+1) ._.

[acoustic moss]

doesn't work 😔

[royal lake]

@rough sapphire :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 4, in <module>
003 | TypeError: can't set attributes of built-in/extension type 'float'

[acoustic moss]

ye

[jovial kelp]

Can't hurt to look into it shrug

[acoustic moss]

mmm

[spare lance]

!e print(~1)

[royal lake]

@spare lance :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

-2

[jovial kelp]

just as i was starting to finish my to learn list it expands by 30 in one day :,>

[spare lance]

!e print(~-2)

[royal lake]

@spare lance :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

1

[dire siren]

!e

print(chr(96)*3)

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

Code block escape attempt detected; will not output result

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/yuwibavaca.txt?noredirect

[jovial kelp]

that's true, but 30 in one day is painful 🥲

[spare lance]

but the thing never ends

[dire siren]

!e print(chr(1))

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

@rough sapphire :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[dire siren]

wow helpful, thanks

[jovial kelp]

LMAO

[jovial kelp]

i should be more specific... 26* but as i said, in one day? that's just... pain.

[dire siren]

u+001 should be null iirc

[royal lake]

@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

Code block escape attempt detected; will not output result

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/xitetudobe.txt?noredirect

[jovial kelp]

thank goodness I'm 15 and have tons of time muahahahahaha-

[dire siren]

!e print("```breh")

[royal lake]

@dire siren :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[dire siren]

bruh

[royal lake]

@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

Code block escape attempt detected; will not output result

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/buqeluboco.txt?noredirect

[dire siren]

never try

it detects output

not the code

[acoustic moss]

ye

[spare lance]

i really wonder why this gives no output

[dire siren]

!e print(chr(96)*2+"\b"+chr(96))

oops

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

```

[dire siren]

explain @royal lake

why are you doing this

[jovial kelp]

!e

the_meaning_of_life = ""
try:
  print(f"The meaning of life is: {the_meaning_of_life_}")
except:
  print(f"Death to all creatures who don't know {the_meaning_of_life}")

[royal lake]

@jovial kelp :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

Death to all creatures who don't know 

[jovial kelp]

WAIT WHAT

[dire siren]

name error

ofc

[jovial kelp]

oh- I'm slow

!e

the_meaning_of_life = ""
try:
  print(f"The meaning of life is: {the_meaning_of_life}")
except:
  print(f"Death to all creatures who don't know {the_meaning_of_life}")

[royal lake]

@jovial kelp :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

The meaning of life is: 

[jovial kelp]

there ya go, much better-

[dire siren]

hey @royal lake evaluate the answer to life

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

The answer to life is 69

[jovial kelp]

holy guacamole

[spare lance]

@royal lake Question aph

[royal lake]

@spare lance :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

is it tho <@​!611418694245154847> 

[dire siren]

python says it is so it is

[dire siren]

python is answering to someone named <@​!611418694245154847> not aph

possible

[jovial kelp]

I was actually thinking that somebody should create a tool that would translate code from one language into another ;-;

[dire siren]

i'ma try

[dire siren]

possible

i wont try

[jovial kelp]

sounds extremely painful though

then again so is creating a language as a whole...

[dire siren]

modules are different

impossible

[jovial kelp]

when did i say anything about a module? ;-;

[dire siren]

you need to translate it

[jovial kelp]

oh... oh that's a good point

[odd sluice]

!e e

[royal lake]

@odd sluice :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
003 | NameError: name 'e' is not defined

[odd sluice]

cool

[jovial kelp]

!e the meaning of life

[royal lake]

@jovial kelp :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "<string>", line 1
002 |     the meaning of life
003 |         ^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid syntax

[jovial kelp]

damn

[odd sluice]

!e import this

[royal lake]

@odd sluice :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters
002 | 
003 | Beautiful is better than ugly.
004 | Explicit is better than implicit.
005 | Simple is better than complex.
006 | Complex is better than complicated.
007 | Flat is better than nested.
008 | Sparse is better than dense.
009 | Readability counts.
010 | Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
011 | Although practicality beats purity.
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ijisutijav.txt?noredirect

[jovial kelp]

VSC calling you out... 😳 Editing lambda_assignment.py 13:50:37 elapsed

oh jeez that's a long time

[dire siren]

@rough sapphire i'm getting some process, how to find how many , does a string have

current code:

import inspect
def lambda_to_def(func):
    lines = inspect.getsource(func)
    lines[lines.find("lambda ")+7:lines.find(":")]

[acoustic moss]

string.count(",")?

[dire siren]

ty, i forgot simple funcs

nvm i'm too stupid i don't even need it lol

[spare lance]

what even

[jovial kelp]

sounds like somebody should refresh on the data type methods :0

i have now fully commented my code for the first time, feels... odd.

[dire siren]

@rough sapphire
test this

import inspect
def lambda_to_def(func,name):
    lines = inspect.getsource(func)
    code = f"def {name}("+lines[lines.find("lambda ")+7:lines.find(":")]+"):\n"
    if lines[lines.find(":")+1:len(lines)-1][0] != " ":
        code+="\treturn"+lines[lines.find(":")+1:len(lines)-1]
    else:
        code+="   return"+lines[lines.find(":")+1:len(lines)-1]
    return code

it's not fully functional expect errors running it

you have to give a lambda func on func

tested, worked for me idk other funcs so uh

there's probably some weird lambda i cant fix

returned this:

def a_name(_):
        return_+1

probably the \t made it weird

i'ma make it just 4 spaces

[dire siren]

oh didn't work

i'ma add a space

new ver:

import inspect
def lambda_to_def(func,name):
    lines = inspect.getsource(func)
    code = f"def {name}("+lines[lines.find("lambda ")+7:lines.find(":")]+"):\n"
    if lines[lines.find(":")+1:len(lines)-1][0] != " ":
        code+="    return "+lines[lines.find(":")+1:len(lines)-1]
    else:
        code+="   return "+lines[lines.find(":")+1:len(lines)-1]
    return code

should be working on MOST lambdas

idk

had fun playing with strings

works

the name parameter is to protect user from doing something like lambda _:_+1 without variable assignment

so uh

[spare lance]

inspect.getsource? it gets u the code ?

[dire siren]

i'ma make a list comp to for loop this is fun

[dire siren]

gets source code from function

it'll die

[spare lance]

!epy import inspect def xyz(): return "blabbers" print(inspect.getsource(xyz))

[dire siren]

@rough sapphire use this version instead

def str_lambda_to_def(func,name):
    code = f"def {name}("+func[func.find("lambda ")+7:func.find(":")]+"):\n"
    if func[func.find(":")+1:len(func)-1][0] != " ":
        code+="    return "+func[func.find(":")+1:len(func)-1]
    else:
        code+="   return "+func[func.find(":")+1:len(func)-1]
    return code

!?

it didn't work?

h0w

[spare lance]

!epy import inspect def xyz(): return "blabbers" print(inspect.getsource(xyz))

what the bot ded?

[dire siren]

sad

[spare lance]

!e print("hello")

[royal lake]

@spare lance :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

hello

[dire siren]

!e import os
print(os.listdir())

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

['Pipfile', 'Pipfile.lock', 'config', 'snekbox', 'user_base', 'tests', 'LICENSE']

[dire siren]

no it doesn't

ok

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | /snekbox
002 | {'tests', 'config', 'snekbox', 'user_base'}

[spare lance]

#bot-commands message @dire siren help what is this

oh wait same error

[dire siren]

use the string version

def str_lambda_to_def(func,name):
    code = f"def {name}("+func[func.find("lambda ")+7:func.find(":")]+"):\n"
    if code 
    if func[func.find(":")+1:len(func)-1][0] != " ":
        code+="    return "+func[func.find(":")+1:len(func)]
    else:
        code+="   return "+func[func.find(":")+1:len(func)]
    return code
``` wish for testers

[dire siren]

probably won't work if lambda:

def str_lambda_to_def(func,name):
    if func.find("lambda ") != -1:
        code = f"def {name}("+func[func.find("lambda ")+7:func.find(":")]+"):\n"
    else:
        code = f"def {name}("+func[func.find("lambda")+7:func.find(":")]+"):\n"
    if func[func.find(":")+1:len(func)-1][0] != " ":
        code+="    return "+func[func.find(":")+1:len(func)]
    else:
        code+="   return "+func[func.find(":")+1:len(func)]
    return code

improve

[dire siren]

and it doesn't work lol

it'll probably work on a single lambda, you might want to run the function twice if there's more than one

[spare lance]

@acoustic moss bro do u have the answer to that algo question u sent?

[acoustic moss]

i have the answers yeah

there is no official code solution though

[spare lance]

hmm wait i have a bad soln lemme just fair it out a bit

[acoustic moss]

just give me the 3 values you got

for

[solemn leaf]

👀 regex moment

[dire siren]

regex too hard

i'might do some weird replace to regex stuff later on

[acoustic moss]

whomst hath pingedeth

[dire siren]

plz give creduts

[spare lance]

i did

[acoustic moss]

O

[dire siren]

yay

[spare lance]

for all valid reasons.. i am assuming i am wrong

[acoustic moss]

very nice

[spare lance]

oh wait

fuck

[acoustic moss]

🙇

didst thou bruteforce

[spare lance]

no u can gimme any number and we can compare the answers

[acoustic moss]

i bruteforced lol

its exponential

[spare lance]

lesser than the algo for sure

coding the PIE is not fun yall

never try it

[acoustic moss]

whats pie

[spare lance]

principle of inclusion exclusion

[acoustic moss]

oh

[spare lance]

._.

hsp send brute force method pls

[acoustic moss]

i ran into negatives in the first iteration so i left it

[dire siren]

wow

[spare lance]

i did too then i realised i was not sorting just 1 god damn case because i was using append ._.

[dire siren]

make a list comp to for loop next

[dire siren]

then dict comp,
then tuple comp (does this even exist lol)

[acoustic moss]

lol

import itertools
def f(n, k):
  c = 0
  for i in itertools.product(range(k + 1), repeat=n):
    if "0, 1, 0" not in ", ".join(i):
      c += 1
  return c

imma try doing it the correct way later

[spare lance]

sigh yes this is a better way ._.

[acoustic moss]

nah lol

[spare lance]

i wanna lowkey time it

[dire siren]

pypy might be slow in some case

btw is it possible to make a cython jit

liek pypy + cython

[spare lance]

97229.0
0.006172657012939453```
not bad

assuming the number of loops i have used

[acoustic moss]

LMAO

mine takes 3s

[spare lance]

  File "E:\Coding_stuff\Python\projects\random_stuff\aph_problem.py", line 74, in <module>
    print(f(20,1))

  File "E:\Coding_stuff\Python\projects\random_stuff\aph_problem.py", line 64, in f
    if "0, 1, 0" not in ", ".join(i):

TypeError: sequence item 0: expected str instance, int found```

why did i name it aph problem tho.. should be hsp

[acoustic moss]

uh yeah do .join(map(str, i))

[dire siren]

why is it named aph_problem

kinda scary

is it my problem

[spare lance]

yes

ur problem

deal with it

🔫

[dire siren]

sad

what is my problem anyways

[spare lance]

oh u mean the question?

hmm lemme find it

this

[dire siren]

ok

[solemn leaf]

!e

print((lambda n,k: len([i for i in __import__('itertools').product(range(k+1),repeat = n) if '0,1,0' not in ','.join(map(str,i))]))(3,2))

[royal lake]

@solemn leaf :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

26

[solemn leaf]

😎 worst time complexity

[acoustic moss]

that'll stop working for k >= 10 lol

[solemn leaf]

wat

where's the catch

[acoustic moss]

'010' not in ...

a [0, 10] would become a false positive

[solemn leaf]

damn

ez fix

[acoustic moss]

.

[solemn leaf]

bruh

space

sus

i fixed

[solemn leaf]

.

[acoustic moss]

ok

[solemn leaf]

ok

[dire siren]

ok

[edgy crest]

ok

[inland wolf]

ok

[shrewd prawn]

ok

[acoustic moss]

no

[shrewd prawn]

ok

[spare lance]

no

things i am not good at :
golfing

how do yall even do it

[edgy crest]

thats the neat part, i dont

[royal lake]

@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

Utah bread

[spare lance]

interesting

now expand it :troll:

[tardy rain]

Thats the opposite of golfing lol

[spare lance]

yes exactly

which is technically harder if u forgot the way u golfed stuff like that

how the heck do u even pronounce it

._.

[latent scaffold]

ob fus cation

[clever solstice]

how the heck do u pronounce what???

https://tenor.com/view/toddlers-and-tiaras-reality-smile-creepy-evil-gif-3502066

[spare lance]

ob-fus-kay-shun?

[clever solstice]

when i lie

[latent scaffold]

yes

[clever solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-laugh-crazy-car-close-up-gif-12180194

currently opening python...

[lunar warren]

NO

SPIDEY GAY

[spare lance]

no he the old one was good >:((

[lunar warren]

good qn

[lunar warren]

no tom holland best die

wtf is ur name

who r u

and why do u have the same pfp as my friend

[spare lance]

yee its pretty good.. and u can do it tho.. maybe easily too

[spare lance]

because i am the friend?

[lunar warren]

oh

wait what

omg

what does ur nem mean

[spare lance]

use .catify

[lunar warren]

:?

[spare lance]

.catify

[median dome]

Your catified nickname is: ᘣᘏᗢ | ᘣᘏᗢ

[lunar warren]

[spare lance]

just type ".catify"

[lunar warren]

.catify

[median dome]

Your catified nickname is: Astonator7 | 🐈

[spare lance]

why change name... catify good >:((

[lunar warren]

BRUH

WHO ARE U

u r not my friend

[spare lance]

:sadge:

[lunar warren]

ayy

why do i have a goat in my name

[spare lance]

its a cat sigh

u need sleep mate

[lunar warren]

bc wtf are u saying ;-;

how is it a cat

;-;-;-;-;-;-;

oHHHHHHHHHHHHH

catify means

to cat urself

[spare lance]

ZOOM IN

[lunar warren]

Wut

bruh

i hate you

[latent scaffold]

Don't call people that

[lunar warren]

ohno

how many bans before we get kicked out

[shrewd prawn]

bruh what is this kid

[spare lance]

ban means u get kicked out

[lunar warren]

ah wait

i meant warnings

[karmic gust]

That isn't acceptable

[lunar warren]

i can say many things but i won't

[spare lance]

oh my god scoff is here ||hide||

[shrewd prawn]

ngl you sound like you're 10

[spare lance]

hey shush dont.. please maintain peace

[versed girder]

rust vs modern c++?

[lunar warren]

well that doesn't sound like astonatorish

[rough sapphire]

Hey please don't be an asshole

[odd sluice]

wat

oh nvm I just read chat

[rough sapphire]

https://www.yahoo.com/now/kraft-created-macaroni-cheese-ice-133022444.html

[rough sapphire]

@rough sapphire Hi. Do you mind hearing my project that im working on?

sure

what are u working on

o

that sounds nice

is it open source

well i havent done much work on it yet im just learning opengl but ive made a thin sdl wrapper. https://github.com/Vaxeral/Gravel

oo

i see

you can actually represent a hexagonal map as a 3d cube map which is what im going to try and do to code it

nice

C++ i see

since a hexagon map kind of has 3 axis and so does 3d space

So cpp your main?

yes it was my first language. Im coming back to it after language hopping the biggest thing ive made in code is probably tetris in lua and love2d framework

Lua is nice

Dynamic and has performance

Rare to find

but not much libraries written for it compared to python but eh i dont use libraries very often.

Thats Lua's only disadvantage

i do like it though i find its simplicity very welcoming

But i wish i could learn Lua

however i doubt i would ever be doing that

I have been on the verge of quiting coding in pursuit of a career. As coding is really just a hobby for me. Ive struggeled to come up with game ideas which is why i got into coding to make games, but im just not very creative. Im giving my shot at creating board games in code and hopefully have as much fun as i did with tetris

[rough sapphire]

that sucks, but good luck in whatever you persue!

thanks

have a nice night

[rough sapphire]

Hm

well

its actualy a good thing if u enjoy not being creative and still programming

cuz

in jobs no one is going to let u be creative

theres gonna be a prod manager

and he/she is going to tell u what to do

and u do it

dats about it

[acoustic moss]

become the manager's manager ez

[edgy rock]

we have a joker here

https://medium.com/nerd-for-tech/python-is-a-bad-programming-language-2ab73b0bda5

[acoustic moss]

lol

needs a healthy dose of copium

[rough sapphire]

do you know when to use a static assert and when to use a regualar assert? Isnt static assert for things that might fail at compile time and that are constant? or am i wrong

ah i seem to be right on this

just looked at learncpp.com

[rough sapphire]

did you know you can scope variables to a file by declaring them in a unnamed namespace like so

namespace
{
  int instance_count = 0;
}

[odd sluice]

fuck u

this author is mental

[last mantle]

there are lots of people who hate py for no reason whatsoever

[odd sluice]

eh it's an opinion piece

so I'm ok with it

but still

a lot of it is inaccurate

[odd sluice]

THIS is the reason why I'm saying this

quite nice stereotyping, isn't it?

[wise schooner]

did you really read that?

[shrewd prawn]

hmm, generalizing people who use certain langs

[spare lance]

i wonder how many times he has been in a fist fight over python to write that 😂

[wise schooner]

self keywords lmfao

that's not even a keyword

[solid elbow]

Not unreasonable for it to be one, though. this is a keyword in many languages.

[odd sluice]

you mean this this?

[wise schooner]

it's just a parameter name

albeit the only one which PEP8 allows

but still
that's not called a keyword

[rough sapphire]

in c++ its a pointer to a object

[odd sluice]

you can f'ing use this if you wanted to

lmfao

[rough sapphire]

hmm is this a keyword in c++

[wise schooner]

yeah

[odd sluice]

I could do this:

class OK:
  def __init__(e):
    ...

[wise schooner]

and then flake8 will scream at you

it's still a convention tho

[solid elbow]

The weird thing in Python is that it's just a parameter name. It's not special.

[wise schooner]

yeah

[spare lance]

yes but conventions are good

[solid elbow]

In Python, it's explicit, and named by the programmer. In other languages it's implicit and has a keyword for the name.

I'm not sure either approach is necessarily better, but Python's is definitely weird.

[wise schooner]

i like that approach

i think a lot of languages use that too

[odd sluice]

How.

[wise schooner]

doesn't rust use it?

and lua too

[spare lance]

ohkay wait just confirming... if u dont pass self parameter.. u cannot access self.variables right.. or can u?

[wise schooner]

yeah, you need a variable to store the instance

[rough sapphire]

less error prone if the object is passed in implicitly like in c++

[wise schooner]

it may or may not be self

that's just a convention

and PEP8 says that

inb4 esoteric code to bypass that

[acoustic moss]

i think you're even allowed to do Class.method(x) if x isn't an instance of Class

[solid elbow]

What do you mean by "if you don't pass" it? It's passed automatically when you call a method on an instance.

[solid elbow]

You are, yep.

[wise schooner]

staticmethod (/s)

[solid elbow]

In Python, a static method is just one that doesn't bind to the instance it's called on

The special thing that @staticmethod does is to disable the normal descriptor behavior of the function it's decorating

[wise schooner]

And only in Python will the difference between tabs and spaces cause the interpreter to have a heart attack.
why does the person code in notepad

oh wait

even notepad++ has an option to convert tabs to spaces

[rough sapphire]

ive actually had problems with this though. Where it looks like the indentation is fine but python complains

[wise schooner]

your editor should have an option to convert tabs to 4 spaces (unless you use notepad)
you could just click that button and it fixes that

[solid elbow]

Yeah. That's also a fair hit, I think. It's bad that code that looks correct on a user's screen might be invisibly wrong.

[solid elbow]

That wouldn't fix it, if the editor was originally showing tabs as 8 spaces.

[spare lance]

oh i was talking about while function definition

nvm

[wise schooner]

sublime text and vscode also show spaces and tabs (with dots etc)

[odd sluice]

there are some valid points - some thing that actually do have a problem
but they are mixed in a load of baloney
also would help if he calmed his voice against python devs
sounds like a personal vendetta smh

[wise schooner]

which editor does that by default

[solid elbow]

Most? Everything from vim to notepad

[odd sluice]

aren't tabs 4 spaces

[spare lance]

well yes

[solid elbow]

Indent levels are usually 4 spaces, at least in Python, and you get 4 spaces of indenting when you press the tab key. Those facts are orthogonal to the question of how a tab 0x09 byte in the file is displayed.

[wise schooner]

huh... just checked, notepad++ uses 4 spaces by default for tabs

same for vscode and sublime

i dunno about vim tho

[edgy crest]

oh god i have seen projects with 2 tabs as indents

[odd sluice]

discord indents:

[wise schooner]

black to the rescue

[solid elbow]

You're 100% sure it's a 0x09 byte?

[wise schooner]

nope, i just pressed a tab lol

it moved forward by 4 spaces

[solid elbow]

Right, whole different thing

[odd sluice]

  tab lol

[shrewd prawn]

have you seen notepad tabs lol

[odd sluice]

2 spaces 😢

[wise schooner]

discord used 2 spaces lol

[dire siren]

my tab:

  tab

[odd sluice]

lmao

[dire siren]

ye two spaces

[shrewd prawn]

notepad is amazing /s

notepad++ is better

[solid elbow]

If you do:

with open("foo.txt", "w") as f:
    f.write("a\tb\n")

And then open the file in each of those editors, how does it display,

[wise schooner]

lol

lemme try, brb

[odd sluice]

>>> print("\te")
        e
>>>

wtf

[dire siren]

probably different font

[solid elbow]

Most editors I know will, by default, show that as an a in column 1 and a b in column 9

[shrewd prawn]

hmm

your's doesnt seem to be a monospace font, aph

[solid elbow]

Good editors will display it as an a in column 1 and a b in column 9, but the 7 blank spaces will be colored differently or have some light dots filled in so they can't be mistaken for actual spaces

[odd sluice]

    readline.redisplay()
AttributeError: module 'readline' has no attribute 'redisplay'
>>>

anaconda install is shitting itself

[wise schooner]

sublime

lemme try notepad, brb

notepad uses... a lot of spaces

[solid elbow]

Yep, that's what I expect.

[odd sluice]

    e

notepad^

huh

[acoustic moss]

even the ipython shell converts to 4 spaces if you press tab

interesting

[wise schooner]

notepad++ is fine tho

[solid elbow]

!e ```py
print("a\tb")

[royal lake]

@solid elbow :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

a	b

[solid elbow]

Hah, that's weird.

[wise schooner]

it's just notepad which has a problem

[solid elbow]

Run that interactively in a terminal and I bet it looks like 7 spaces.

[dire siren]

"\b" is the backspace character am i correct?

[wise schooner]

others just use 4 spaces (idk about vim)

[odd sluice]

yup!

[solid elbow]

Every terminal I know of sets tabstops every 8 characters by default.

[wise schooner]

yeah

so it's notepad (non ++ version) and terminal based IDEs

[solid elbow]

Not just terminal based IDEs - terminals themselves.

[dire siren]

is tab tab but not space

[solid elbow]

There's no IDE involved there. Your terminal is deciding how to display the 0x09 byte, it's choosing to display it as a bunch of blank spaces up til the next column that's a multiple of 8

[wise schooner]

yep, i could see how that's gonna be a huge problem lol

[dire siren]

what is the problem, i cant quite follow lol

[wise schooner]

8 spaces would be... like 2 indents to a python user

the code won't be readable anymore ig

[solid elbow]

We're discussing someone's criticism of the fact that Python grants syntactic significance to invisible characters

Which are rendered differently in different environments

[solid elbow]

In practice it's not a huge problem - the convention is to use spaces for indenting in Python, never tabs, and as long as you do that everything is fine.

It's an annoying problem that often trips up beginners, though.

[wise schooner]

the first thing beginners need to install is black and flake8

[solid elbow]

Python has a whole special type of SyntaxError just to tell you that you've mixed tabs and spaces in your indent.

Neither black nor flake8 prevent this problem

[wise schooner]

black formats it on ctrl+s tho

[solid elbow]

black would fail to parse the code because of the incorrect indenting, just like the interpreter does.

[wise schooner]

so if the code was being save regularly (when it was just tabs), it's gonna be all 4 spaces

[solid elbow]

It can't format code it can't parse

[wise schooner]

yeah, it won't fix it after it's been borked

[solid elbow]

If you write your code with tabs, then black changes it to use spaces, and then you add more tabs for indenting into it, black can't fix it a second time.

[wise schooner]

oh

[solid elbow]

In that sense fixing it on ctrl-s was worse than doing nothing at all

[wise schooner]

yes

[dire siren]

time for a new code formatter - white (i bet it wont work 2)

[solid elbow]

Because if it was all tabs, things would have been fine, too

[wise schooner]

welp... ig PyCharm has tabs -> 4 spaces by default

but sublime and np++ needs it to be configured

[solemn leaf]

damn we are still at tabs 💯

[graceful basin]

At the same time, many beginners make mistakes with indenting things differently than what the code gets parsed as in languages without significant whitespace

[wise schooner]

formatting step 1: convert all tabs to 4 spaces

[graceful basin]

And errors > bugs

[clear plume]

git clone psf/black

[solemn leaf]

meanwhile discord tab

[solid elbow]

You're not wrong, though auto formatters can help with that.

[dire siren]

step2 convert all lambda to def, step3 convert all list comp to for loop

[spare lance]

i hate it when it does that >:((

[solemn leaf]

step 3 golf

[wise schooner]

wait

[graceful basin]

Yeah, if you have well setup tooling, both options do great

[wise schooner]

list comps are nice

[dire siren]

yes

[solemn leaf]

yes

[solid elbow]

A C or Java formatter can reindent the file to match how it's syntactically interpreted.

[dire siren]

the new code formatter makes your code worse

[dire siren]

nvm a simple obfuscator can do all that

[clear plume]

Better yet, use my obfuscator

Jk that's coming soon™️

[dire siren]

have you obfuscated your obfuscator yet

use your obfuscator to obfuscate your obfuscator

[clear plume]

No because that would de optimize my deoptimizer

And I want my deoptimizer to run at max performance

[solid elbow]

It's interesting that the author of that piece chose to talk about the lack of privates, but didn't mention the descriptor protocol, which is why Python doesn't need getters and setters like the languages the author likes do

[wise schooner]

i never use __private tbf

[solid elbow]

It's also telling that the author pointed to name mangling with two underscores rather than the convention of a single underscore for private

The author is just wrong about name mangling being the preferred way to make privates.

[graceful basin]

Yeah, haven't seen name mangling often

[solid elbow]

Yeah, it's needed in relatively specialized cases.

[wise schooner]

where is it needed tho?

[dire siren]

i feel this ot channel is too advanced i cant fit in lol

[spare lance]

same i am just staring blankly at half the stuff..

[graceful basin]

When making a public open class that needs private members users can't override

[solid elbow]

You need name mangling when you want to add a private attribute or method to an existing class, where there is a chance that an existing subclass of that class has already used that same name for one of its own private attributes or methods

[wise schooner]

oh

[shrewd prawn]

just do eval() on a long string of encrypted text and decrypt it lol

[dire siren]

is there a decorator for private method

[solid elbow]

Nope. Python doesn't have privates.

[dire siren]

or i can just do if __name__ != "__main__" and leave

[odd sluice]

what about self.__var_name?

[solid elbow]

The convention is to denote something that users shouldn't touch by putting a single underscore at the start of its name.

[odd sluice]

this won't allow us to access the var

[solid elbow]

That's not private, it's name mangled.

[odd sluice]

i think™️

[odd sluice]

and what's that?

[solid elbow]

You can still access it.

[odd sluice]

what

[solid elbow]

It just changes the name.

[shrewd prawn]

what does __name__ equal if it doesn't equal '__main__'

[odd sluice]

the name of the file

[dire siren]

it it doesn't equal to main that means it's imported iirc

[shrewd prawn]

ok

[dire siren]

if it's main that means it's running the file

[shrewd prawn]

no, its value lol

[dire siren]

idk

[graceful basin]

It's the name of the module

Generally the filename without .py

[odd sluice]

^

[shrewd prawn]

ye ic

[solid elbow]

!e ```py
class Foo:
def init(self):
self.__x = 42

f = Foo()
print(f._Foo__x)

[royal lake]

@solid elbow :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

42

[dire siren]

pyinstaller sucks, i can just make the file format to .exe and run it with python file.exe

[odd sluice]

ahhhhhhh

but the access syntax is quite weird

[solid elbow]

Sure. Its name has been changed to make conflicts unlikely.

[shrewd prawn]

but it doesnt work as an actualy exe smh. i got it working after several hours and stack overflow visits

[solid elbow]

The purpose of name mangling is to avoid choosing a name for something that conflicts with a subclass or superclass. It's got nothing to do with privacy

[dire siren]

no it does work like an exe, just not how you expected how

[odd sluice]

also what happens if you do setattr(self, "test with space", 1)?
unrelated but

[solid elbow]

Works fine.

[shrewd prawn]

you cant just run it, you gotta python run it tho

[odd sluice]

but how do you access it

[dire siren]

you can, but most likely to be errored out

[solid elbow]

It adds a "text with space" key to self.__dict__

[spare lance]

!e

class Foo:
    def __init__(self):
        self.x = 42

f = Foo()
print(f.x)```

[royal lake]

@spare lance :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 6, in <module>
003 | AttributeError: 'Foo' object has no attribute '__x'

[spare lance]

wait why

[solid elbow]

With getattr.

[odd sluice]

ah I see

[dire siren]

!e print("\Foo\bar")

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

\Fooar

[dire siren]

yay backspace works

[solid elbow]

Because names with two leading underscores and without two trailing underscores are name mangled.

[dire siren]

!e print(chr(96)*2+"\b"+chr(96))

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

```

[dire siren]

weered

[spare lance]

ohh wdym my by mangled tho?

[solid elbow]

The name mangling prefixes them with a single underscore and the name of the class they're defined in

The attribute gets a different name than the name that appears in the code.

[spare lance]

ohhhhh

interesting

[solid elbow]

Inside the Foo class, self.__x is automatically replaced by self._Foo__x

Yum

[dire siren]

yes mango is one of the sweetest fruit

[clear plume]

?

[dire siren]

i liek to delete every message i sent, so probably you didn't see something

[clear plume]

Ahh

[spare lance]

the way u deleted ur nickname?

[solid elbow]

And the purpose of that mangling isn't to make it private - after all, the new name is totally predictable. The purpose of the mangling is to prevent the name from conflicting with a parent or child class that might want to use the same name.

[shrewd prawn]

he sent "mangoed :(" before godlygeek's "Yum"

[dire siren]

i cant actually delete my nickname, i'll die for invisible names

[solid elbow]

Mango lassi is the best Indian dessert 😄

[clear plume]

Indeed

Mango lassi is one the best desserts period.

[odd sluice]

idk man i like jalebis more

[spare lance]

u actually can since discord then automatically sets ur nick to ur username

[odd sluice]

I can set it to a special char

and mess it up

[spare lance]

idk i like normal lassi more than mango lassi

[solid elbow]

Don't, though. 🙂

We do give infractions for annoying nicks, heh

[solid elbow]

I don't know that I've ever tried the non mango version

[dire siren]

the .catify nickname annoyed dogs lovers

[clear plume]

Not really

[rough sapphire]

i like both

[spare lance]

i dont know the number of dog lovers i have annoyed then

[clear plume]

I personally am a dog lover and I don't give a shit about the .catify command

[dire siren]

.catify @clear plume

[median dome]

@clear plume ᕂᘏᗢ

[spare lance]

i mean u should try it if u get a chance sometime.. its delicious

[solid elbow]

Discord really has trouble with the Unicode RTL character. It does weird things like put the "edited" in the wrong spot if you edit the message

[shrewd prawn]

i see a lot of people say why not both for cats and dogs, by why not neither lol

[dire siren]

This is a‫ message

indeed

[rough sapphire]

No but, why ping me

My main is Python 😅

Im going to start revising my C++ today and continue working on my video editing software(Python)

[rough sapphire]

i just thought itd be cool to share since your learning cpp

[dire siren]

why use python when you can go to visual studio and drags stuff to make a gui in c#

[rough sapphire]

oh you meant about the static assert thing

yeah idk

[solid elbow]

Unnamed namespaces are handy. The C equivalent is file level statics

[rough sapphire]

Oo

thanks!

Yeah

i need a ton of help with cpp

cause

like,

[dire siren]

doesn't look "wrong spot" for me, "This is a message edited" seems weird

[rough sapphire]

its not my main

[solid elbow]

Your example with the unnamed namespaces is basically equally to
static int foo = 1;

[rough sapphire]

im comfortable with the tutorial im watching rn but, 🙄

yt tutorials 🙄

[rough sapphire]

learncpp.com is a great resource

i know as a python enjoyer, i would not recommend people to use Tutorials for code based tutorials

[solid elbow]

I've seen it do that before. Though maybe they've fixed that? Or maybe it was only the browser version?

[rough sapphire]

logic and concept based is fine

[dire siren]

yt tutorials, full form: whY waTch tutorials

[spare lance]

wait what.. how did u manage to achieve this

[rough sapphire]

I did try that

but the problem is

i get build warning

ik build warnings are good

but

but im not used to em

[solid elbow]

Lol, yeah. What platform are you using Discord on?

[rough sapphire]

cause python give no warnings

[dire siren]

copy the whole sentence and edit add a trailing whitespace (what pep8 hates) it should work

[rough sapphire]

they give error or no error

:D

yeah but it is nice to have compile time errors becuase youll catch errors that would otherwise go unoticed if everything was caught at runtime

[solid elbow]

I've seen lots of bugs in Python code that would have been caught at compile time in other languages. Things like except blocks referring to variables that don't exist

They're not exercised when everything works fine, so it's easy to miss that they'd be broken if they run

[dire siren]

i wish try except can catch syntax error

[acoustic moss]

why

[shrewd prawn]

bruh why tho

[rough sapphire]

just switch to compiled language

[dire siren]

more fun

but i dont make syntax error so that's probably not a thing for me

[rough sapphire]

or a compiled scripting language. Theres elixer julia

[solid elbow]

It can - the try except just needs to be in a different module

The module importing the syntactically incorrect one can handle the syntax error and do something about it.

[dire siren]

:O

[acoustic moss]

In [24]: try:
    ...:     eval("2+")
    ...: except SyntaxError:
    ...:     print("here")
    ...:
here

hmph

[solid elbow]

Yep, or that.

SyntaxError is catchable, but a try block inside an a syntactically incorrect file can never run, because the interpreter fails to even parse and compile the file, so it never gets a chance to run any code inside it

[rough sapphire]

hey can i ask you a c++ question?

[spare lance]

hmm ill try

[rough sapphire]

If i have a type that is a alias of of a type* how do i get the base type from the pointer type?

[solid elbow]

That's an odd thing to do, though it's possible with some metaprogramming...

[rough sapphire]

huh its not decay

ah type_traits

theres add_pointer and remove_pointer

[solid elbow]

https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/types/remove_pointer

Yep, just found it myself.

That said, I've programmed in C++ professionally for 10 years without ever once needing that - if you're new to C++, it's definitely not something you should need.

[rough sapphire]

yeah i know the type of it. its void* so i just need void

i dont really need it

just curious

[dire siren]

this is too fun

[shrewd prawn]

smh

[dire siren]

sry

[shrewd prawn]

lol

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

SPEED RUN EVAL 15

[dire siren]

6

oh deleted

yay

[solid elbow]

That's enough of that.

[dire siren]

sry

[rough sapphire]

lol

[rough sapphire]

can i run sagemath in colab?

its build on python but i cannot find something which does, neither is it on pip i think.

or i mean what should i do?
my pc is not too good, thats why i prefer colab.

[olive remnant]

is vsc the best ide for like c++ on ubuntu?

[inland wolf]

it works but i hear clion is better

[dire siren]

edit it

This is a‫ message

[acoustic moss]

that is indeed a message

[rough sapphire]

This is a‫ message

[dire siren]

there's a specific unicode doing that

you can try to find it

have fun

!e print("‫ message")

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

‫    message

[dire siren]

yay

[royal lake]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[quick ledge]

!raw 867328449768062986

[royal lake]

== Raw message ==

This is a‫       message

[acoustic moss]

nice try

[quick ledge]

!charinfo

[royal lake]

Missing required argument

characters

[quick ledge]

ok

alright, keep your secrets then

[drifting sage]

lmao

[solid pollen]

!charinfo This is a‫ message

[royal lake]

Character Info

\u0054 : LATIN CAPITAL LETTER T - T
\u0068 : LATIN SMALL LETTER H - h
\u0069 : LATIN SMALL LETTER I - i
\u0073 : LATIN SMALL LETTER S - s
\u0020 : SPACE -
\u0069 : LATIN SMALL LETTER I - i
\u0073 : LATIN SMALL LETTER S - s
\u0020 : SPACE -
\u0061 : LATIN SMALL LETTER A - a
\u202b : RIGHT-TO-LEFT EMBEDDING - ‫

Full Raw Text

\u0054\u0068\u0069\u0073\u0020\u0069\u0073\u0020\u0061\u202b\u0020\u0020\u0020\u0020\u0020\u0020\u0020\u006d\u0065\u0073\u0073\u0061\u0067\u0065

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[solid pollen]

\u202b : RIGHT-TO-LEFT EMBEDDING - ‫

[inland wolf]

this is a message too

[lean summit]

hello

[spare lance]

This is a‫ message

[spare lance]

did u carriage returned?

[dire siren]

wdym

[spare lance]

the unicode i meant

[dire siren]

ys

!e print("("

[royal lake]

@dire siren :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "<string>", line 1
002 |     print("("
003 |              ^
004 | SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing

[dire siren]

it'll die if i do that normal

[spare lance]

wait but what is the unicode for it wotah

[dire siren]

\u202b

[spare lance]

test message <r:\u202b>

no >:((

now the heck does this work

[dire siren]

!e print(chr(0x202b))

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

‫

[dire siren]

^ grab this char above

[spare lance]

‫‫hello‫
world‫

[dire siren]

dont you try to edit the world

[spare lance]

interesting enough it gave a new line

!e print("hello",chr(0x202b),"world")

[royal lake]

@spare lance :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

hello ‫ world

[spare lance]

this message is ‫ edited

[dire siren]

this message is

why do you even need that lol

[spare lance]

yes but

hello ‫ world

[mellow spire]

!raw #ot1-perplexing-regexing message

[royal lake]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[mellow spire]

doesn't work

hello ‫ world

[dire siren]

e

!e print(69+42)

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

111

[dire siren]

!e print(int("111",2))

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

7

[dire siren]

!e print(69+420)

[royal lake]

@dire siren :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

489

[dire siren]

k doesnt work for this bye

[spare lance]

!e print(int("489",16))

[royal lake]

@spare lance :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

1161

[spare lance]

!e print(int("1161",8))

[royal lake]

@spare lance :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

625

[spare lance]

ah yes here we have the number @dire siren

[solemn leaf]

What is this bot commands

[winter terrace]

fuck this

i give up

anime is officially dead

i probably just need a bigger dataset but i just don't care anymore

[dire siren]

r u still doing grayscale anime gen

[spare lance]

but its better than last time... and colourful too