you can always do some codingame projects 😉
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
gritty zinc
acoustic moss
idk what you're talking about
gritty zinc
https://www.codingame.com/multiplayer/bot-programming/coders-strike-back
currently writing a bot for this... well, will be after my quantum mechanics exam
edgy crest
oh i have seen this one
gritty zinc
it's the popularest on the site by a wide margin
edgy crest
unfortunately i am that stubborn guy who wants to do the graphics too
gritty zinc
pretty hard too because it's multiagent
winter terrace
oh yeah i recently figured out compute shaders in unity and now i can make cool visual stuff by representing an agent with a pixel
night reef
I came here just to know the age of joe does anyone know the age of Joe
last mantle
17
acoustic moss
who's joe
gritty zinc
dunno, what's joe with you?
twilit shore
j-j-joe m-m-mama
vapid nymph
dunno, what's joe with you?
round rose
That would've been very interesting had it been true
tardy rain
Why would they sell this as nft
Wouldnt it lose all value instantly if it was taken off youtube
dry flume
this is joe
acoustic moss
pro editing
dry flume
pro editing
dude 5 minute paint job
dry flume
pro editing
this was yours?
dry flume
how did you find it so fast wtf
i had it saved
acoustic moss
bruh lmfao
acoustic moss
this was yours?
@bleak lintel what is thy opinion
acoustic moss
sadge
dry flume
he probably saw the image and went offline
bleak lintel
<@!165023948638126080> what is thy opinion
a work of art
inland wolf
nft
rough sapphire
Lmfao
calm dawn
What's a good color for strings in VSCode? The brown is kinda ugly.
maybe more reddish?
latent scaffold
What's a good color for strings in VSCode? The brown is kinda ugly.
I'd argue that no other colors would really match the color scheme... so in that case, I'd say just get another color scheme lol
latent scaffold
teal would be too much blue
f-strings are blue, variables are blue, operators are blue, arguments/parameters/attributes are blue
gritty zinc
I just saved myself some hour+ of homework by making a script to automate calculating coefficients for angular momenta addition
edgy crest
I just saved myself some hour+ of homework by making a script to automate calcul...
🤔
angular momentum is mass * velocity * radius right
i also dont understand what those | > symbols mean 
inland wolf
same
gritty zinc
angular momentum is mass * velocity * radius right
in quantum mechanics it is, for one, a discrete and not a continious quantity
| > is the so-called bra-ket notation
these are all kets (vectors).
each equation here relates an angular momentum vector in the sum-of-two reference system (|j1,j2,j,m>, where j1,j2 are the momenta of the two particles, j is the total momentum of their sum and m is its z-component) to vectors in the systems of the two particles (|j1,j2,m1,m2>, where m1,m2 are the z-components of each particle's momenum)
All of these past the first one are just obtained by successively applying the lowering operators: J_- on the left side and J_1- + J_2- on the right side
jaunty blade
What's a good color for strings in VSCode? The brown is kinda ugly.
yes i agree the brown one is kinda ugly tbh
edgy crest
in quantum mechanics it is, for one, a discrete and not a continious quantity
o quantum mech
mild abyss
git clone https://github.com/git/git clone https://github.com/git/git clone https://github.com/git/git
mild abyss
o quantum mech
iirc sexypistol is studying that hmm
latent scaffold
```git clone https://github.com/git/git clone https://github.com/git/git clone h...
D: what's this
last mantle
yes
inland wolf
lol
brazen ingot
rough sapphire
https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-19648889
your profile picture should be the logo of python
night reef
is c and c++ is the same as java and javascript or I need to learn c before c++
rough sapphire
just learn java if you want to mod minecraft simple. Why do you want to learn something other than java?
ohh oops wrong server
😅
c and c++ are similar to java. c is limited as it has no concept of generics. java c and c++ are statically typed languages and are compiled while javascript is interpreted.
brazen ingot
your profile picture should be the logo of python
Oh tell this to guido 
rough sapphire
is c and c++ is the same as java and javascript or I need to learn c before c++
and you dont need to learn c before learning c++
night reef
and you dont need to learn c before learning c++
great
wind isle
I just saved myself some hour+ of homework by making a script to automate calcul...
oh my
abstract stratus
windows 11 cpu compatibilities are the worst thing microsoft ever published
latent scaffold
windows 11 cpu compatibilities are the worst thing microsoft ever published
1 Ghz? that's not that bad
abstract stratus
its not the specs of the cpu
they literally ignored 7-8th gen intel cpus and ryzen 2000
last mantle
they literally ignored 7-8th gen intel cpus and ryzen 2000
they ignored it
doesn't mean it won't run
abstract stratus
well i mean if they restrict users from installing windows 11 because of cpu incompatibility then it'd be a disaster
rough sapphire
ive hit a wall in my minecraft modding journey
no one knows an easy answer either
graceful basin
yeah, that happens sometimes
latent scaffold
\🤔 is it?
tribal aurora
it is
latent scaffold
wot
dire siren
wot
winter terrace
And it’s made by such a cool company, Brand
latent scaffold
absolutely
latent scaffold
absolutely yes
winter terrace
It’s so cool and great and good and cool
tribal aurora
you seem like you haven't bought a single thing in 10 years
tribal aurora
¯_(ツ)_/¯
alpine edge
@rough sapphire
rough sapphire
anyone know .js ?
ye
wraith hound
anyone know .js ?
Please just ask your question
Don't just ask who knows js in every ot channel
rough sapphire
Please just ask your question
I've made a discord bot and it is malfunctioning, can you help ?
hey can u remind me whats the name of this server
wraith hound
hey can u remind me whats the name of this server
Python or Python Discord
wraith hound
I've made a discord bot and it is malfunctioning, can you help ?
Can you show the code?
rough sapphire
Can you show the code?
yes ofc
strange musk
Does anyone know how to find out what variables in python script use what memory?
stackoverflow answers aren't enlightening
rough sapphire
Does anyone know how to find out what variables in python script use what memory...
hmmm
never thought of this
royal lakeBOT
Hey @rough sapphire!
rough sapphire
maybe try getting the ammount of bytes when u pickle.dump it?
strange musk
for every object?
rough sapphire
import pickle
print(pickle.dumps("your data here"))
!e
import pickle
print(pickle.dumps("your data here"))
royal lakeBOT
@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
b'\x80\x04\x95\x12\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x8c\x0eyour data here\x94.'
sys.getsizeof(object)
royal lakeBOT
Hey @rough sapphire!
rough sapphire
hmm
wraith hound
Hey <@456226577798135808>!
Post it as a codeblock please, not a file
brazen mica
I kinda feel bad that
there are over 150,000 people in this server
but only 100 joined the bootcamp broadcast(?)
strange musk
so kinda like a decent terminal view showing the most mem heavy objects
rough sapphire
try enumerating alll the variables in the script one by one, somehow then do pickle.dumps
strange musk
I kinda feel bad that
there are over 150,000 people in this server
but only 100 ...
they don't care about it?
wraith hound
I kinda feel bad that
there are over 150,000 people in this server
but only 100 ...
A lot of people just join and never talk
And not everyone is available right now
brazen mica
they don't care about it?
yeah, this is mostly beginners git tutorial anyways 🤷♂️
wraith hound
Like I can't join vc at the moment
rough sapphire
this may be of help @strange musk https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42530194/list-all-variables-used-in-a-python-script
strange musk
yeah, this is mostly beginners git tutorial anyways 🤷♂️
I don't know git but I don't care either 🤷
rough sapphire
Post it as a codeblock please, not a file
how to write in code block ?
strange musk
this may be of help <@!738058085083381760> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4...
nah mate, some quick and easy lib
rough sapphire
acoustic moss
!pypi memory_profiler
royal lakeBOT
wraith hound
how to write in code block ?
```js
code goes here
```
brazen mica
I don't know git but I don't care either 🤷
yeah, nothing better than copying pasting your code over and over again in your secret external storage 🤫
acoustic moss
i've used that before
strange musk
i've used that before
this looks promising
wraith hound
Then only post the relevant parts
brazen mica
\`\`\`js
code goes here
\`\`\`
how did you write that without making it a code block? 
rough sapphire
Then only post the relevant parts
dm would be better
wraith hound
how did you write that without making it a code block? <:lemon_thinking:75444188...
backslash escape
wraith hound
dm would be better
no thanks
rough sapphire
u can dm me if you want @rough sapphire
brazen mica
```js
code goes here
```
rough sapphire
u can dm me if you want <@456226577798135808>
ok
@wraith hound sir/ma'am I need it to be fixed please help me
wraith hound
Like I said, post the relevant code parts and we'll try to help
rough sapphire
Like I said, post the relevant code parts and we'll try to help
ok leave can you give me a mod mail code in python ?
wraith hound
https://github.com/kyb3r/modmail is the code that powers @polar knoll
rough sapphire
the real mod mail ?
acoustic moss
if by real you mean the one running in the server, yes
rough sapphire
yes the discord certified Mod Mail
shrewd prawn
wrong error bud
solid elbow
ModuleNotFoundError is a subclass of ImportError
royal lakeBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @rough sapphire until 2021-06-26 22:29 (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: mentions rule: sent 85 mentions in 10s).
remote socket
now that's a lot of pings
opaque sentinel
wraith hound
Wow
edgy arrow
remote socket
User has been completely annihilated.
wraith hound
Some user decided to ping 85 people
rough sapphire
oh
twilit shore
?
That’s a server invite
u might get in trouble for posting that invite as it is not a pydis partnered/approved server
timid latch
@rough sapphire please dont post unapproved invite links on the server 🙂
rough sapphire
<@456226577798135808> please dont post unapproved invite links on the server 🙂
but i didnt..
timid latch
oh sorry wrong, ! ...
timid latch
<@456226577798135808> please dont post unapproved invite links on the server 🙂
@rough sapphire ^
tranquil orchid
@woeful quiver What do you mean by "one side"
woeful quiver
<@!510588684886605874> What do you mean by "one side"
one vertical line of pixels on a screen
tranquil orchid
Those are dimensions
As in, you'll have x amount of pixels along the x-axis, and y amount along the y-axis
Multiply those together and you get the total number of pixels
tranquil orchid
So my monitor for example has a resolution of 3440 x 1440
Which equates to...
!e print(3440 * 1440)
royal lakeBOT
@tranquil orchid :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
4953600
4.95 million pixels
woeful quiver
for the whole display?
tranquil orchid
Yep
tranquil orchid
That's a resolution
It means that horizontally, the display has around 4k pixels
Vertically it's usually about 2.1 thousandish
woeful quiver
but many TVs are 4k with different sizes
tranquil orchid
That's where pixel density comes in
The larger the screen with the same resolution, the more spread out the pixels, the lower the density
woeful quiver
PPI is something else?
woeful quiver
yeah
woeful quiver
That's just a unit of pixel density
wouldnt the density be measured by meters squared?
*inches
lol
tranquil orchid
I mean it could be in pixels per square meter sure
Doesn't matter what it is, so long as it's pixels per some unit of area
woeful quiver
i meant squared inch
tranquil orchid
Yeah, just infer it to mean pixels per square inch when you read pixels per inch
tranquil orchid
yeah
tranquil orchid
¯_(ツ)_/¯
woeful quiver
still sounds odd to me that the x axis can only has 1080 pixels 
tranquil orchid
Yeah that was just a random number by me
well
kind of
You'll find a lot of screens with a 1920 x 1080 resolution
Often just called 1080p
lunar nexus
!e
0.26*100
royal lakeBOT
@lunar nexus :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
[No output]
Although there is relatively new technology that's made pixels a lot smaller
woeful quiver
interesting
tranquil orchid
@icy tapir have you considered Rust over C++
tender smelt
lul
rich moon
naw just spam std::unique_ptr and u get sth similar to ownership /s
icy tapir
<@!736021171136626729> have you considered Rust over C++
No I have not? Is it like Python and C++ and Java and all that?
What areas is it better than C++?
tranquil orchid
It's on the same kind of level as C and C++
tranquil orchid
Probably it's most major advantage over C++ and C is it's memory safety. Rust was designed with safety in mind, it won't let you mess things up in terms of memory
Also just the fact that its modern
C and C++ are old, they have a lot of new and old legacy features which make them fairly bloated
tranquil orchid
In a lot of situations I would consider it to be better yeah
icy tapir
then ill probably learn it :D
tranquil orchid
https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/book/ is the go-to resource
The book is amazing
tranquil orchid
They look to be the same
icy tapir
ok
tranquil orchid
Plus the built in package manager is really nice
versed saffron
@tranquil orchid have you looked at the cpython or PyO3 crates?
tranquil orchid
I haven't yet
edgy crest
<@!284565640684109824> have you looked at the cpython or PyO3 crates?
for pyo3
inland wolf
another one bites the rust
vivid temple
And another one gone and another one gone
Another one bites the rust
Hey I'm gonna get you too
edgy crest
another one bites the rust
nice one
inland wolf
aha
rough sapphire
late ether
Suggest me a thriller movie
sand crane
Carrot
near bolt
why isit sometimes for casting it is int() while sometimes it is (int)
for c? how about python is there both ways
graceful basin
for C, there is int() in the standard library
and (int) converts a numeric type into int
in python int() will convert any type with __int__ into an int
near bolt
and `(int)` converts a numeric type into `int`
oh wait but whats the difference between int() and (int)
graceful basin
oh wait but whats the difference between int() and (int)
int() is for python, and (int) is for C
well, strictly speaking you can do (int)(5 + 5) in python, but that is just int(5+5) written weird
inland wolf
yea
near bolt
ok thx
meager lion
anyone good at physics if so could someone asnwer this question please
the actor is under yellow light btw
plz ping me if u have an answer
harsh tundra
the actor is under yellow light btw
if it's pure yellow light (or even RGB yellow, so R+G), then black?
because blue doesn't reflect yellow (and with RGB - not R nor G)
rough sapphire
if it's pure yellow light (or even RGB yellow, so R+G), then black?
because blue...
Yeah, that makes sense
There are two switches and yellow is formed with two colors
jagged fog
https://github.com/python-discord/bot/blob/main/bot/exts/info/stats.py
do stats also save date of stat? So you know how much per month/day etc
I'm thinking that would be wasteful? I assume whatever is in the backend also has separate month/day counters for each value, for example this message would increment counter instance for message where month = 6
new month comes create new counter instance with month 7 etc
I' asking because I want to do basic stats for my bot but also want to have information how much per month/day the command has been used. Saving date for each would be wasteful. I think I actually answered my question with the above example, I'll go with something like that
meager lion
if it's pure yellow light (or even RGB yellow, so R+G), then black?
because blue...
ok i was right in the first part, but i said that the shirt is black because there is no colour that the shirt can reflect as the shirt is not exposed to like white light which is the whole colour spectrum
harsh tundra
ok i was right in the first part, but i said that the shirt is black because the...
It wouldn't have to be white, tho. Any mix of blue+something (eg magenta ff00ff) would make it blue.
meager lion
It wouldn't have to be white, tho. Any mix of blue+something (eg magenta ff00ff)...
well fucking rip
i said it was black
the shirt would appear but i said there is no colour for the shirt to reflect therefore appearing black to the human eye
rough sapphire
helo
lunar crescent
proud scarab
idk if it makes sense to change these 2 140mm for 3 120mm
like where would the air of the lowest 120mm fan go?
into the hard drive cage?
solid pollen
Well, yes
It contributes to the general flow
You usually want to have more intake than outtake
proud scarab
I was thinking of moving the two 140mm intakes to be outtakes on top
and 3 noctua NF-A12 as intake
so 3 in and 3 out, the rear out being a stock fan
but idk of that would give it more positive pressure
sorry negative as i think these 140mm are powerful
barren silo
test
rich moon
sus
clear plume
u self bot?
Fuck it let's find out
🎉 GIVEAWAY 🎉
Prize: Nitro
Timeleft: Infinity
React with 🎉 to participate!
inland wolf
lol
clear plume
@quick ledge is always lurking lol
quick ledge
acoustic moss
where nitro
clear plume
Just because you have nitro doesn't mean you need to use animated emojis everywhere.
acoustic moss
Just because I don't have nitro doesn't mean I can't use animated emojis everywhere.
clear plume
What
acoustic moss
clear plume
How
acoustic moss
||spanish inquisition||
rough sapphire
||spanish inquisition||
God dammit
topaz aurora
||spanish inquisition||
||nobody expects the spanish inquisition!||
opaque bronze
||nobody expects the spanish inquisition!||
|| never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down ||
clear plume
|| @acoustic moss what have you started ||
inland wolf
stop spoilers!!
last mantle
yes
opaque bronze
stop spoilers!!
||sorry about that||
inland wolf
damn
inland wolf
wht is this chat
opaque bronze
wht is this chat
||welcome to #ot1-perplexing-regexing , duck||
inland wolf
bruh
opaque bronze
||use spoilers or else......||
edgy crest
this is getting opposite of based now
solemn leaf
vinam getting darker
edgy crest
ok
solemn leaf
sed
opaque bronze
that cartoon stick guy with fire on his head
edgy crest
didnt ask
edgy crest
that cartoon stick guy with fire on his head
i got bored of it
i have one more but later
opaque bronze
nice
inland wolf
this is getting opposite of based now
lol
clear acorn
Just because I don't have nitro doesn't mean I can't use animated emojis everywh...
man how
lol it's a gif
rough sapphire
if fine == "hm":
print("===> You are dumb <===")
print(" ^ ")
print(" / \ ")
print(" / \ ")
print(" / \ ")
print(" /_______\ ")
print(" | __ | ")
print(" | | | | ")
print(" | |--| | ")
print(" | | | | ")
print(" | -- | ")
print(" | | ")
print(" | | ")
print(" | | ")
print(" _| |_ ")
print(" |___________| ")```use a multiline string man, why u suffer with those print statements
solemn leaf
makes a oneliner
opaque bronze
print("""
USE DIS LMAO
DIS IS COOL
LOOK AT DIS
""".strip())
leading and trailing newlines 😔
opaque bronze
imagine
opaque bronze
leading and trailing newlines 😔
fixed it
acoustic moss
opaque bronze
<:lemon_hyperpleased:754441879822663811>
don't bully me alright
hahastinkypoop was a nice guy
follow in his footsteps, hsp
acoustic moss
nevre
solemn leaf
inland wolf
wtf
shrewd prawn
wut is this chat lol
last mantle
wtf is that lmao
latent scaffold
Who even makes these videos
solemn leaf
ikr
rough sapphire
.uwu beenie weenie
median domeBOT
beenie weenie
rough sapphire
this room locks its entrances and spawns enemies. Once the enemies are defeated the room unlocks letting the player proceed.
latent scaffold
command blocks... youch
rough sapphire
I like working with them but i do plan on remaking this feature as a mod
rough sapphire
how do i not get this list of names?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/336642776609456130/859032386414444544/unknown.png
final glacier
this room locks its entrances and spawns enemies. Once the enemies are defeated...
when was the last time you slept
surreal otter
@rough sapphire as the admin said, we can discuss in OT if you'd like to discuss the rules of the server
but the server is in its right to make its rules
and one of those rules is no breaking TOS
!ytdl
royal lakeBOT
surreal otter
they even have a special thing about YTDL specifically
rough sapphire
i condenm my own act
surreal otter
3. access the Service using any automated means (such as robots, botnets or scrapers) except: (a) in the case of public search engines, in accordance with YouTube’s robots.txt file; (b) with YouTube’s prior written permission; or (c) as permitted by applicable law;
This one speciically says no automated access
the content does not matter
it is YT's server you are accessing
we will not help write code to violate TOS
it's that simple
You can disagree until you turn blue in the face AND the cows have come home
quick ledge
I think they get the idea
surreal otter
check general
rough sapphire
sorry
surreal otter
they kept it going and I did not want to continue there
so I wanted it to go away from general
rough sapphire
oww
i wanted to ask one more thing!
is manually translated content still copyright of source of content?
rough sapphire
check general
.
rough sapphire
its like inspiration... and i read inspiration is allowed
surreal otter
just because hte original source was free doesn't mean the newly formed phrases are
You can be inspired all day
but you cannot take what someone else made unique whilst inspired
just because the source of inspiration is free
rough sapphire
hmm got it
surreal otter
so the content you make is yours
the contnet that inspired you is free to inspire
your content can inspire
but your unique content is yours alone
until the lawyers show up and change things
and kelloggs actually owns that thign you did
rough sapphire
👀 😆
surreal otter
One of my favorite things about this server is the strict enforcement of hte rules
surreal otter
keeps the place happy
not illegal
like I said, you can translate all day
and breaking TOS is generally not illegasl
rough sapphire
but they violate google terms..... they are automated tools made by reversing api of goole
surreal otter
we just don't help with it
America doesn't give a shit about the ToS of Google
Neither does North Korea
or Iran or England
ToS are for users and companies
Laws are for people
rough sapphire
no one take copyright seriously until action is taken
surreal otter
I can make my ToS say you must not wear pants while using my app
and I can rightfully ban people for wearing pants while using my app
doesn't mean your government will punish you for wearing pants while using my app
graceful basin
we have to enforce TOS because discord rules require us to
surreal otter
but it does mean we won't help you circumvent wearing pants while using my appo
graceful basin
I am not very happy about it either, some TOS is really dumb
surreal otter
as silly as it sounds
rough sapphire
google has right to ban me from their service... not legally binding though until i request like i am doing DDOS
😆
latent scaffold
uh
surreal otter
if you said I LOVE THIS APP and amm working on ML to put pants on me, since it wants to see me pantless we'd have to pass
hopefully that silly example makes sense
rough sapphire
i am quite amazed by world of API's
rough sapphire
👀 and mostly reverse engineered
surreal otter
after I just finished building a tool for my wife
rough sapphire
after I just finished building a tool for my wife
which tool
surreal otter
so now I need to actually learn to access it if someone doesn't make a wrapper quick
it loads her receipts
actually
rough sapphire
which technologies you used to make it possible?
surreal otter
from key_getter import etsy_login
from etsy_utils import get_receipts, get_transactions, gather_the_data, listify
from sheets_utils import get_sheet, get_sheet_data, fill_sheet
if __name__ == "__main__":
etsy = etsy_login()
sold_items = get_receipts(etsy)
active_receipts = get_transactions(sold_items, etsy)
the_data = gather_the_data(sold_items, active_receipts)
the_list = listify(the_data)
sheet = get_sheet("Water Balloon Orders", "To Make")
data = get_sheet_data(sheet)
fill_sheet(data, the_list, sheet)
so I login using the etsy2 python package
grab all the receipts from her unshipped queue
get the transactions from the receipts (each listing is its own item)
process the data
rough sapphire
COOL
surreal otter
organize the data
rough sapphire
How old are you sir?
surreal otter
grab the google sheet, figure out what's on the sheet, add the new data to the sheet
30's
surreal otter
def gather_the_data(sold_items, active_receipts):
the_data = {}
for item in sold_items:
name = item['name'].split()[-1]
message_from_buyer = item['message_from_buyer']
date = datetime.date.fromtimestamp(item['creation_tsz'])
is_gift = item['is_gift']
ship_by = datetime.date.fromtimestamp(item['shipped_date'])
usps = item['shipping_details']['shipping_method']
transactions = []
the_data[item['receipt_id']] = dict(name=name, message_from_buyer=message_from_buyer, date=date,
is_gift=is_gift, ship_by=ship_by, usps=usps, transactions=transactions)
for idx, transaction_ in enumerate(active_receipts[item['receipt_id']], 1):
# pprint(transaction)
transaction = transaction_['transaction_id']
product = transaction_['title'].split()[0]
quantity = transaction_['quantity']
variation = transaction_['product_data']['property_values'][0]['values'][0].split()[0]
cost = transaction_['product_data']['offerings'][0]['price']['currency_formatted_raw']
_dict = dict(transaction=transaction, product=product, quantity=quantity, variation=variation, cost=cost)
the_data[item['receipt_id']]['transactions'].append(_dict)
return the_data``` here's where I process some of the dataUS
rough sapphire
don't mind sir... I just laugh at everything
surreal otter
I wish I started programming earlier than last year
Jealous of all the young kids that come here
rough sapphire
really it's just been a year?
surreal otter
and 2 months
but yea
late april
of 2020
decided to start learning programming
rough sapphire
i actually started a year ago..
i learned full stack web dev.. python as general purpose language
latent scaffold
ah yeah I started in August of last year
rough sapphire
ah yeah I started in August of last year
cool
surreal otter
even though our brains are less malleable as we age, it seems our discipline and ability to hunker down is much better
I used to be too distracted by games to study and learn
now the games are for the kids
rough sapphire
👀 yes sir
surreal otter
ya
rough sapphire
cool
surreal otter
Just got them a computer, so they get to use my decade old steam library and the countless games I've collected from Epic
there's actually a few gems in ther efor hte kids
that I didn't even know I had, haha
and some other games that have blown up in popularity
surreal otter
I picked up Fall Flat in a humble bundle like 4 years ago
it's their favorite game
rough sapphire
In Asia almost all of games are pirated.. really no one has money to even buy windows
Indian subcontinent to be specific
acoustic moss
quite the generalization to make for a 1.3b population
surreal otter
quite the generalization to make for a 1.3b population
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/median-income-by-country you say that, but it's a fair one it seems
I imagine people prefer food and needs to expensive video games
rough sapphire
quite the generalization to make for a 1.3b population
Microsoft can disable their access but no one wanna loose most techy population in world...
surreal otter
Microsoft can disable their access but no one wanna loose most techy population ...
Microsoft knows not to care
they make more money with consumers learning their platform and being proficient employees of companies that pay for licenses
that's why it's so easy to run unactivated windows
rough sapphire
Microsoft knows not to care
yes also because if it will care Linux market share will grow with lots of programmers
surreal otter
it's all part of their busines plan, it's not allwoed but they don't give a shit
rough sapphire
it's all part of their busines plan, it's `not allwoed` but they don't give a sh...
yes really
surreal otter
yes also because if it will care Linux market share will grow with lots of progr...
Which is why I use Linux, because Fuck MSFT
rough sapphire
Which is why I use Linux, because Fuck MSFT
😆 cool sir
surreal otter
started linux in september
absolutely love it\
I always hated windows, things are just so easy on linux
rough sapphire
I used Linux later I left just for gaming and drivers support
surreal otter
steam has amazing gaming support now
rough sapphire
in linux?
rough sapphire
i might soon switch if that's the case
surreal otter
EAC is the biggest issue
there's certain EAC that requires windwos
Most of the games I play work on Linux
but those are the games I play, haha
rough sapphire
👀 fair price to pay for using linux
surreal otter
Yea, if anything Linux helped pry me away from games
rough sapphire
nice
surreal otter
yep
rough sapphire
which city are you from in the US?
surreal otter
but now i just type factorio in the shell and it loads
between philly and nyc
not a city, haha
a town
pretty sure I'm the only krzysztof here
rough sapphire
between philly and nyc
haha nice
surreal otter
but there's bound to be a few in the metros
rough sapphire
metro city?
surreal otter
yea, it's not a common name in America
latent scaffold
lol
surreal otter
but near certain ethnic centers it'll be more common
namely around the polish areas
rough sapphire
hmmm i see
surreal otter
it's not all that great, but I guess it's worth a visit
lots to see if you're just visiting
brazen ingot
Yo did you buy one more dog? @eternal wing
lmao 🐕
and congo for Certified Moderator! 🔨
latent scaffold
Fisher is actually a fusion of two dogs, like from Steven Universe
latent scaffold
me thinks Fisher is... away
brazen ingot
lmao, he changed the status
how is he away?
oh gone offline
now*
typing llol
👀
eternal wing
Yo did you buy one more dog? <@!233481908342882304>
haha, no just the one dog. I Just thought it would be nice if I had another, then I could disguise them as one human in a trench coat
and I dont buy dogs 
Rescue only haha
limber mantle
best mattress for scoliosis?
brazen ingot
latent scaffold
oops. I read that as "best mattress for Scaleios"
brazen ingot
oops. I read that as "best mattress for Scaleios"
haha I am laughing at this
@limber mantle
limber mantle
haha I am laughing at this
is it some popular devops organization for hire?
latent scaffold
huh
rough sapphire
Scaleios is an admin in the server
limber mantle
Scaleios is an admin in the server
why Scaleios? 😉 I always thought it is root
rough sapphire
why Scaleios? 😉 I always thought it is root
I…don't really know 😄
limber mantle
do you have any link somewhere that provides the right definition?
hmm... ScaleIO is actually even a soft
https://kubernetes.io/docs/concepts/storage/storage-classes/
found even kubernetes instructions for that
last mantle
oops. I read that as "best mattress for Scaleios"
lmao
brazen ingot
lol
latent scaffold
there's a mushroom on your shirt
edgy crest
what
graceful basin
gotta say, non monospace fonts are quite nice for programming.
ruby fox
gotta say, non monospace fonts are quite nice for programming.
the terminal also uses monospace right?
tardy rain
not unless you tell it to
graceful basin
the terminal does get broken if you do this
but my program doesn't do terminal output anyway, so idc
uneven pine
That's cursed
acoustic moss
it just looks wrong to me
acoustic moss
communism
graceful basin
hot take: things aligning columnwise in code makes parsing it harder
since code is always read line by line
acoustic moss
unbased
tardy rain
unbased indeed
graceful basin
so your perception seeing a column is harmful
tardy rain
you usually scan code for blocks, monospace helps identify blocks quicker
graceful basin
I generally don't like seeing code as rectangles
fervent dock
imagine typing
In [1]: array = [
...: [1, 2, 3],
...: [4, 5, 6],
...: [7, 8, 9],
...: ]
and it doesn't align
i'd collapse
tardy rain
That would crack the shit out of my gears let alone grind them
fervent dock
since code is always read line by line
next u will suggest that it should auto-justify instead of left align
acoustic moss
imagine typing
```python
In [1]: array = [
...: [1, 2, 3],
...: [4, 5,...
In [1]: array = [[1,2, 3], [
...: 4,5 ,6],[
...: 7 ,8,9]
...: ]
tribal aurora
Array hell
graceful basin
next u will suggest that it should auto-justify instead of left align
hmmm
graceful basin
imagine typing
```python
In [1]: array = [
...: [1, 2, 3],
...: [4, 5,...
that will align in a non monospace font, since all digits are generally the same width
harsh tundra
gotta say, non monospace fonts are quite nice for programming.
Now go into #854363982738358302 with table (eg local tests) screenshot :D
harsh tundra
that will align in a non monospace font, since all digits are generally the same...
Uh. No
1.
2.
graceful basin
fair
funnily enough, the tables would be monospace, since this config breaks the terminal and it does this
harsh tundra
best font choice
this looks weird with header info - all those numbers 😮
I typed the text while using wingdings, so the line was printed short, it adds to the weirdness XD
this looks fancy
fervent dock
i think joe likes italics
speaking of fonts, I've recently given up ubuntu mono, which used to be my favourite mono font
after many years I simply concluded it looks like shit
harsh tundra
Ye Olde Python
harsh tundra
i think joe likes italics
the last font is called Old English Text, and Joe is British (English?)... 🤔
fervent dock
joe's british, not sure if english
graceful basin
Joe is Welsh
harsh tundra
Joe is Welsh
ty
I only knew about British part, hence English is inside parens and with question mark 🙂
tender smelt
windows terminal is pretty good
winter terrace
I wonder if there’s a practical purpose to wingding
tender smelt
pranking your friends
graceful basin
I wonder if there’s a practical purpose to wingding
it used to be for icons on websites, before it was reasonable to include a whole image in it
raw dust
windows terminal is pretty good
I agree, I think that either Windows Terminal or hyper.js would be the best terminal for Windows
uneven pine
Windows terminal seems great, the only issue is I can't use it on Linux and OSXI
graceful basin
yeah, if you need cross platform, you probably want alacritty
graceful basin
alacritty is no slower than wt, and I would be willing to bet it is faster, but I don't have data for it
uneven pine
alacritty is super lightweight
but it's a boat to configure which is why I avoided it
graceful basin
yeah, that's fair
rough sapphire
can confirm, the defaults are bad
uneven pine
I want lots of eye candy, with acceptable performance
and getting alacritty to that, especially with a single config that'll just work regardless of platform is well
an undertaking
uneven pine
I had trouble getting the eye candy part to work well on linux, by itself
rough sapphire
so i have been keeping a tty open
graceful basin
what is just an actually nice terminal for linux with no configs
windows terminal defaults are good enough for most things
rough sapphire
because i don't wanna integrate a service for the irc client i'm making
uneven pine
what's the gnome shell default one?
whatever it is that comes with gnome shell is quite nice out of the box
Konsole, by comparison, despite KDE being way more eye-candy oriented is GOD AWFUL
rough sapphire
isn't "gnome terminal" a standalone application
graceful basin
I will probably be stuck with st, I need very very lightweight and no GPU dependency
uneven pine
you'll have to excuse me as I hate gnome.
rough sapphire
you'll have to excuse me as I hate gnome.
i share the same sentiment
graceful basin
since this laptop can't run alacritty
yeah, I don't really want to pull in gnome here
rough sapphire
I will probably be stuck with `st`, I need very very lightweight and no GPU depe...
i used a suckless dwm + st combo for a long time, not a bad terminal app
even tho you have to edit the source and recompile for changes which
graceful basin
yeah, that's what I would rather avoid
rough sapphire
uh, sux
rough sapphire
me too but i wouldn't daily drive it
uneven pine
it was okay, but just didn't really seem like it was a good use case for day to day use
rough sapphire
yeah def
uneven pine
I'd use it on my home server
to have monitoring stuff up on
a passive display, basically
graceful basin
I like it because I often need to split things between reading docs and coding etc
oh yeah, that is also a great usecase
rough sapphire
i did like pop os
rough sapphire
because it has a toggle between tiling windows and just normal
graceful basin
yeah, other things do it fine as well
uneven pine
windows 11 is making that even better, too. I'm excited for it
rough sapphire
buuuut it uses gnome
graceful basin
but I also like that i3 improves on alt tab
uneven pine
I don't hate gnome as a concept, if something else makes gnome better like Pop!_OS I'd consider it
I just hate the default gnome shell
graceful basin
because alt tab is nice, but i3 does do it better
uneven pine
Titlebars on windows are too big, icons are too big, everything is too big
rough sapphire
eh it doesn't work too well for me anyway
uneven pine
it's a UI clearly designed for a tablet
graceful basin
also, window focus on hover
uneven pine
except it's not optimized at all for tablet use
graceful basin
I do like large fonts
rough sapphire
it's a UI clearly designed for a tablet
this is what the application menu looks like on pop os
i don't dig it
uneven pine
also, window focus on hover
Windows has a setting for this, actually. So does Plasma. I accidentally turned it on one time and was very confused/frustrated why things were breaking
graceful basin
I use discord 2 zoom levels in and have 18 point fonts in all my editors
uneven pine
I'm the type of person to move my mouse cursor out of the way when I'm doing something
so I was getting loads of input on the wrong software lol
graceful basin
yeah, I can imagine that getting annoying
rough sapphire
doesn't sound like a feature i'd use
uneven pine
this is what the application menu looks like on pop os
standard gnome shell apps menu...aka a menu for tablets. lol. But what do the actual titlebars of apps like?
in gnome default they're like 12 inches tall
rough sapphire
i suppose that'll vary from monitor 2 monitor but
uneven pine
yeah, see, that's huge
rough sapphire
i do think they're on the chonker side
graceful basin
why would you have such a small button in such a large space
rough sapphire
...which is strange because
graceful basin
large buttons are good
rough sapphire
system76 sells computers preloaded with pop os
uneven pine
All I hear from gnome users when I point that out is that "gnome sucks on tablets it's keyboard oriented"
Which I never really got tbh
Like, I've used gnome shell a bit, I think it'd be fine on a tablet
out of the box it's probably the best environment for a tablet, normal use case wise, if you ask me
graceful basin
like, look at the windows buttons, they are the size of the entire header
uneven pine
again, because everything is 2 to 4 times bigger than it needs to be
rough sapphire
i do like this product from them https://system76.com/desktops/meerkat
hard to afford for me tho, but it's on the back burner
uneven pine
yeah I desperately need a new laptop
mine has a broken screen and it costs more than the laptop is worth to replace it
3rd gen mobile i3s did not age well at all, it's barely even usable for basic web browsing
with a lightweight linux distro
doesn't help that it only has 6gb of RAM, which again, is barely usable for all but the most basic tasks these days
rough sapphire
oh man my dream is a zephyrus duo 15
uneven pine
I just want a mid-range laptop
something with a good processor, like a 4800H
and a mid range RTX card
so I can game a bit in my room rather than go downstairs
and not worry about performance
usually those run at like $1k flat
graceful basin
if you have good internet, you may want to look into cloud gaming depending on what category of games you play
rough sapphire
i got a free trial for this service, nware
uneven pine
it also doesn't work at all for most of the games I play (FPS that require ultra-low-latency)
graceful basin
ah yeah, no cloud gaming for you
rough sapphire
it works pretty great, allows you to allocate 100gb on a machine and you can install whatever as long as you own the license
uneven pine
Yeahp, unfortunately I'm not a casual gamer :(
rough sapphire
i hear nvidia geforce now works great but
latency is gonna be a deal breaker for fps anywhere
graceful basin
I generally play slow RTS like hearts of iron 4, so cloud gaming works pretty ok for me
rough sapphire
i have a playstation vita with custom firmware and this tool called moonlight
allows me to stream pc games to it using geforce experience
works pretty great, even over the network with proper configuration
graceful basin
but it is a bit too pricey and I do have a computer powerful enough for most games I want to play
rough sapphire
nware's pro subscription which i vouch for starts at 11 usd mo/
actually make that 12, tax
uneven pine
I have used an app to sream my PC to my phone
while being hundreds of miles away
on mobile data
and managed to play minecraft to good success
rough sapphire
when i said "over the network" i was refering to idk
rough sapphire
friend's house with 5ghz network wifi
rough sapphire
streaming anything over mobile data doesn't sound gud
however i do live in a third world country
with overpriced plans and terrible service
even 4g is rare to find
uneven pine
eek
rough sapphire
that just sounds like mobile data with extra steps
shell cave
My little sister had one of those
ebon condor
my mom uses smth like that for her laptop because our wifi goes down a lot
topaz aurora
Actually used to play League with one of these lmao
rough sapphire
.uwu oo wee you
median domeBOT
oo wee yuw
rough sapphire
.uwu hastune miku
median domeBOT
hastune miku
latent scaffold
hastune
median domeBOT
hatsune miku
uneven pine
Don't we have a channel to spam bot commands in?
latent scaffold
#bot-commands and #sir-lancebot-playground
thick osprey
Totes
tribal aurora
hm ?
thick osprey
Totally possible. Pretty fun to make too
latent scaffold
Totally possible. Pretty fun to make too
What kind of concepts would you need for that?
odd sluice
What kind of concepts would you need for that?
you could use prompt-toolkit
i mean, it's literally in the docs first page pictures (a ui like that)
latent scaffold
:L
tribal aurora
what should I do now ?
violet roost
why can't you use curses on arch
tribal aurora
unsupported os
tribal aurora
bs ?
violet roost
bullshit
inland wolf
yes
tribal aurora
hmmm
solemn leaf
is it possible with rich ?
Actually you have to use it along with some other modules
Since rich can't take user inputs sadly
gritty zinc
https://www.codingame.com/replay/566923144
genetic algorithms go brrr
acoustic moss
no clue what happened but looks like you won
gritty zinc
I did! I can't believe how much better my first version of a genetic algorithm works compared to what I had before
gritty zinc
no clue what happened but looks like you won
https://www.codingame.com/replay/566883139
Here's an older replay when I was using random search. This one I didn't win, and more generally it shows how much worse it used to play
gritty zinc
(note that the opponent here that the random search lost to has a rating of 36.33. For comparison, DarthBoss from the first replay (the boss of the Gold league that you need to be better than to progress to Legend) is 41.85, and my new GA solution is 45.01)
opaque bronze
what is codingame?
gritty zinc
a competitive programming site which I'm mostly on for the Bot Programming and Optimization tasks
this one is the former.
edgy crest
though right now trying to find a shader on the internet which i can yeet in my code to make circles glow
opaque bronze
a competitive programming site which I'm mostly on for the Bot Programming and O...
sounds interesting
imma check it out
gritty zinc
I love how the current algorithm is already good enough for emergent behaviour
my own pods sometimes collide with one of them enabling its shield to repulse the other - usually the hunter pod boosting the runner towards its next checkpoint, but sometimes the opposite - the runner boosting the hunter to a position where it can intercept the enemy pods
opaque bronze
so is it a website where you design bots to fight against other people's bots?
gritty zinc
well, that's what the Bot Programming section is, yeah
gritty zinc
basically short multiplayer competitive programming matches.
like <15minutes (15min is the time limit, you can finish faster)
opaque bronze
is it like hackerearth's code arena
gritty zinc
dunno, didn't play that
tender smelt
no, std lib
opaque bronze
oof
gritty zinc
no, std lib
Not quite, a certain set per language
uhh, that was meant as a reply to @opaque bronze, whoops
tender smelt
o really?
gritty zinc
for example, for Rust there's a few crates like rand, so you don't have to implement your own XORShift like I did initially as I didn't find that page
tender smelt
ah, right
opaque bronze
hopefully there's numpy right
tender smelt
i don't think so
tender smelt
wow
tender smelt
yeah, that's a surprise
gritty zinc
that's actually... may well be better than compiled languages for many problems
opaque bronze
looks look i have to code my own neural network 
gritty zinc
like, numpy uses Fortran linalg libraries and the like
opaque bronze
grrrrr i have to backpropagate manually
gritty zinc
looks look i have to code my own neural network <:lemon_angrysad:817323592693841...
I thought about that myself
but I feel like the main problem would be how to train it
opaque bronze
imagine not using autograd
gritty zinc
like... what'd you do, log each round, then train locally?
opaque bronze
think about it
gritty zinc
either that, or you'd have to build a completely local simulator
opaque bronze
i think you can train locally and then paste the weights
gritty zinc
yeah, that's my idea too
opaque bronze
can you make more than one file
gritty zinc
nope
opaque bronze
oof
gritty zinc
I do believe that some people use NNs
acoustic moss
for example, for Rust there's a few crates like `rand`, so you don't have to imp...
you did WHAT
gritty zinc
I've seen top-something people say they did Search Race using q-learning
acoustic moss
...
gritty zinc
Rust 1.51.0
Includes chrono 0.4.19, itertools 0.10.0, libc 0.2.93, rand 0.8.3, regex 1.4.5, time 0.2.26
I wonder what the hellchrono,libcandtimedo
maybe I should learn them if they are apparently common enough to be available here
opaque bronze
oh heck yeah itertools
acoustic moss
imagine not having itertools in the stdlib 🥱
opaque bronze
so python programs compete only against python right?
acoustic moss
uh i doubt that
gritty zinc
nope
opaque bronze
because python programs would get rekt by c++ and rust lol
gritty zinc
all compete with their entire league
that's true, in most cases you need a compiled language to reach Legend
opaque bronze
all compete with their entire league
so python fights only against python?
gritty zinc
no
tender smelt
imagine not having itertools in the stdlib 🥱
yeah, cause almost all the useful tools are already built-in
opaque bronze
THEN
odd sluice
i think the best way to alleviate this is to take compiler time into consideration
gritty zinc
but reaching middle Gold is totally possible with just heuristics, which can be done in Python
tender smelt
the only new itertools are wild ones like interleave
gritty zinc
for that matter, you can train a neural network in Python, and implement the actual agent (which only needs forwardprop) in Rust 😛
opaque bronze
yeah, but rust have ndarray?
acoustic moss
how do you move a neural network between languages
do you just ctrl c ctrl v the weights and biases lol
opaque bronze
or else you have to code your own matrix library 👀
gritty zinc
you would, yeah
opaque bronze
damn
gritty zinc
that slightly concerns me because quick matrix mul is already not easy
like, numpy's is in Fortran
opaque bronze
exactly
gritty zinc
actually, why not do it in Python now that I think of it
odd sluice
can someone explain codingame
looks like it can become my next addiction
gritty zinc
so yeah, just everything in Python
gritty zinc
can someone explain codingame
looks like it can become my next addiction
It's a pretty normal competitive programming site, but it has two unique categories which I love: Bot Programming and Optimization.
odd sluice
huh
gritty zinc
the former is basically games in which you write an AI that competes against other players' AIs.
odd sluice
I do have an account
but I've never played
gritty zinc
the latter is solving some task that can't be solved exactly as well as possible.
odd sluice
nice
gritty zinc
Coders Strike Back is the one I'm doing right now and is easily the most popular thing on the entire site.
https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/coders-strike-back
it's pod racing (complete 3 laps over a bunch of checkpoints before your opponent)
inland wolf
step it up
gritty zinc
But, you control two pods and so does your opponent
and only one needs to finish the race
so you are free to use the other to mess with your opponent
acoustic moss
oh damn
acoustic moss
how many players are there per 'match'
gritty zinc
and in addition to thrusting and rotating, there's also shield, which disables your engines for 3 turns, but makes you be 10 times heavier for the purposes of collisions - so it's often a good idea to enable it to yeet your victim harder
gritty zinc
how many players are there per 'match'
two always