#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 571

inland wolf Jun 10, 2021, 3:04 PM

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ekonimix

surreal otter Jun 10, 2021, 3:04 PM

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she's nearly doubled her order Queue this morning, and it's 11AM

clever furnace Jun 10, 2021, 3:25 PM

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Can u really rickroll ur os kernel??

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Pls tell me u can

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Then i can call myself the ultimate rickroller

vapid nymph Jun 10, 2021, 3:27 PM

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so... @viral parrot has a script that can do that

twin charm Jun 10, 2021, 4:26 PM

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something like playing a sound effect the moment the pc boots up?

near bolt Jun 10, 2021, 4:45 PM

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public class Main 
{
  int x = 5;
  int y = 10;

  public static void main(String[] args)
  {
    Main myObj1 = new Main();
    Main myObj2 = new Main();
  }
}```

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over here, would myObj1 be 5 and myObj2 be 10?

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cuz i tried to check using

System.out.println(myObj2.y);```

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but when i print, i have to manually declare .x or .y

acoustic moss Jun 10, 2021, 4:47 PM

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over here, would myObj1 be 5 and myObj2 be 10?
no

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each object will have two fields x and y

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myObj1.x and myObj2.x are both 5

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myObj1.y and myObj2.y are both 10

near bolt Jun 10, 2021, 4:48 PM

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oh icic thanks

acoustic moss Jun 10, 2021, 4:48 PM

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👍

vapid nymph Jun 10, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Omfg

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https://www.reddit.com/r/programminghorror/comments/nwhmxr/somebody_shoot_me/

r/programminghorror - Somebody Shoot Me!

2 votes and 22 comments so far on Reddit

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I'm using Notepad++ to build a P2P blockchain based social network.

lost vortex Jun 10, 2021, 7:29 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/1WRAdA5.png

Imgur

kind hound Jun 10, 2021, 8:59 PM

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I wonder how you rickroll at the kernel level

low chasm Jun 10, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Rust

tardy rain Jun 10, 2021, 9:54 PM

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Im kinda glad people are keeping some traditions alive like rick rolling, but im also kinda sad cause that shit cringe af famalam

olive hazel Jun 10, 2021, 10:30 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5a0jTc9S10&list=PLtcJBMFw-xBStidirECURLKs9-AtPE57D&index=6 UwU i found this

YouTube

YourUncleMoe

Cute Little Puppy Doing Cute things

It's simple: For all you cute animal lovers:

A
Cute
Little
Golden
Retriever
Puppy
Video
Designed
To
Make
You
Say
Aww...

Just when you think the video cant get any cuter.... it does

For all you dog lovers out there, you will be so happy to see this adorable little puppy

Enjoy this video, Alex!

Disclaimer I do not ow...

▶ Play video

lunar crescent Jun 10, 2021, 10:31 PM

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i won't fall for that

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ik that

olive hazel Jun 10, 2021, 10:31 PM

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(;-;)

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mission failed

low chasm Jun 10, 2021, 10:33 PM

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I was going to call for it

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But then they said that

hollow lance Jun 10, 2021, 10:34 PM

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olive hazel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5a0jTc9S10&list=PLtcJBMFw-xBStidirECURLKs9-AtPE...

that's not even a good rick roll 😔

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title clearly wants you to click on it but is too vague

olive hazel Jun 10, 2021, 10:34 PM

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lol

low chasm Jun 10, 2021, 10:35 PM

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They haven't perfected the art yet

hollow lance Jun 10, 2021, 10:35 PM

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iirc that video is many years old

olive hazel Jun 10, 2021, 10:45 PM

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low chasm They haven't perfected the art yet

still learning pithink lol

lunar crescent Jun 11, 2021, 12:26 AM

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somebody broadcasted a rickroll to space, lmao

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the dedication

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 12:32 AM

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there is something about seeing this that is so nice to see

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latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 12:56 AM

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seeing wot

open fern Jun 11, 2021, 1:38 AM

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you're seeing the parser switch document psf/black has and GVR's additions

mellow spire Jun 11, 2021, 1:41 AM

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https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/p/discord--discord-nitro free discord nitro 👁️

Epic Games Store

Discord Nitro for Free - Epic Games Store

Download and play Discord Nitro for FREE at the Epic Games Store. Check for platform availability and play today!

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it ain't fake

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i got it, but I don't have epic games lol, can't download on linux

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 1:42 AM

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mellow spire i got it, but I don't have epic games lol, can't download on linux

no need to download.., u can directly buy it on web and you will get the link in your mail?

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 1:43 AM

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mellow spire https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/p/discord--discord-nitro free discord nitr...

"free"

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requires payment info

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 1:44 AM

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ye, like how netflix was

mellow spire Jun 11, 2021, 1:45 AM

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sad, requires payment

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lol

soft jetty Jun 11, 2021, 2:32 AM

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i mean

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its still free

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 2:33 AM

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yes

winter terrace Jun 11, 2021, 3:17 AM

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>thing that you pay for for free
>credit card info required
pithink

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 3:19 AM

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its how netflix does it

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and amazon primes free trial

winter terrace Jun 11, 2021, 3:19 AM

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but like

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yeah sure free trials exist

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but i dont think epic can give free trials for discord nitro

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epic and discord are in no way related, company wise

soft jetty Jun 11, 2021, 3:22 AM

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lol

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basically though like

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the scam part is them wanting to charge you if you forget to cancel

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or for future purposes - which could be helpful

lunar nexus Jun 11, 2021, 3:23 AM

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thats happening to me all the time

soft jetty Jun 11, 2021, 3:23 AM

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but say you forgot to cancel before it ran out, boop there goes the money you didn't want to spend

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you could also just get a burner card offline and preload like 1 dollar onto it

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and then it'll accept it

lunar nexus Jun 11, 2021, 3:25 AM

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its paper money losing value

lunar crescent Jun 11, 2021, 3:54 AM

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inflation?

surreal otter Jun 11, 2021, 4:28 AM

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wonder how much Discord makes in 3 months, and how much of that they refund

versed saffron Jun 11, 2021, 4:32 AM

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anyone have time for a quick code review https://github.com/The1Divider/chess/blob/main/tests.py

GitHub

The1Divider/chess

Contribute to The1Divider/chess development by creating an account on GitHub.

cerulean basin Jun 11, 2021, 5:15 AM

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How come you decided against using a testing framework?

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Why is there an __exit__ but no __enter__? That dunder is meant to be used to implement a context manager.

versed saffron Jun 11, 2021, 5:43 AM

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I've never used a testing framework/done any testing before but I just figured because I have to parse + monkeypatch the tests in, I wouldn't be able to do it

versed saffron Jun 11, 2021, 5:44 AM

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cerulean basin Why is there an `__exit__` but no `__enter__`? That dunder is meant to be used t...

I have no clue I thought __exit__ would be called if there was an exception raised

solemn leaf Jun 11, 2021, 7:05 AM

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lmao

near bolt Jun 11, 2021, 7:24 AM

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in c, scanf requires users to input every value in a new line

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can we get the input to be on the same line

mellow spire Jun 11, 2021, 7:44 AM

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@solid pollen do you have the akarys heart emoji source?

solid pollen Jun 11, 2021, 7:44 AM

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Hmmmmmm

mellow spire Jun 11, 2021, 7:45 AM

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or hmm, just copy the link from gurkult

solid pollen Jun 11, 2021, 7:46 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789193817051234306/829264210104942592/akarys_heart.svg

mellow spire Jun 11, 2021, 7:52 AM

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akarys_heart

woven sleet Jun 11, 2021, 9:04 AM

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sus

solid pollen Jun 11, 2021, 9:40 AM

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Akarys sus

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Yeet 'em

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 9:42 AM

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yes

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 10:31 AM

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anyone want nitro? i dont have credit card, so if anyone has credit card use this

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Oh pydis bot delete nitro gift?

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 10:32 AM

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yes

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 10:32 AM

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probably self bots

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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yes

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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possibly*

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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now ur nitro is gone

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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rip

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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self bots cant delete my message

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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oh ye

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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pydis bot

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 10:33 AM

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idk how gift nitro messages work, i thought they get deleted automatically on claiming

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idk

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 10:34 AM

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acoustic moss idk how gift nitro messages work, i thought they get deleted automatically on cl...

no, it says someone claimed

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 10:34 AM

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yes

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so pydis probably deleted

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 10:35 AM

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so i shud not send it here?

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 10:35 AM

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correct

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 10:35 AM

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ok

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 10:35 AM

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ok

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 10:35 AM

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or the mods are self botting sussyballs

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 10:35 AM

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lol

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 10:35 AM

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wow is that an accusation

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 10:35 AM

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no

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just a thought

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 10:36 AM

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pydis bot delete nitro gifts and put it #deleted-message-logs lol

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 10:36 AM

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lmao

wheat lynx Jun 11, 2021, 10:36 AM

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the pydis bot does delete nitro gifts, yeah, because it isn't a great idea to send them here...

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 10:36 AM

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yes

wheat lynx Jun 11, 2021, 10:36 AM

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on such a large server it's likely there will be selfbots that will just claim it automatically

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 10:36 AM

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meh selfbots cant claim this one

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it needs credit card to accept

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 10:37 AM

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yes

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 10:37 AM

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the epic games thing

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 10:37 AM

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and u think all people dont have credit cards?

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 10:37 AM

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most wont who ever are selfbotting

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 10:37 AM

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hmm

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perhaps

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 10:38 AM

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imagine i selfbot with a card, discord catches me and bans me and my card hmm

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 10:38 AM

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yes

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 10:38 AM

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nah nvm discord will never ban their source on income lmao

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 12:36 PM

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lol

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 12:36 PM

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silent plaza nah nvm discord will never ban their source on income lmao

if they're botting, they're not paying

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so they do have an incentive to ban botters, kind of

harsh tundra Jun 11, 2021, 12:42 PM

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silent plaza nah nvm discord will never ban their source on income lmao

There were people with nitro admitting to being below 13 here, sooo...

spare dawn Jun 11, 2021, 12:46 PM

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Anybody who have early given ZCO ?

harsh tundra Jun 11, 2021, 1:23 PM

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acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 1:25 PM

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bird

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 1:25 PM

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🐦

lunar crescent Jun 11, 2021, 1:25 PM

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birdo

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 1:52 PM

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dash

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 1:52 PM

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lol

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 2:07 PM

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latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 2:08 PM

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that's kinda weird

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 2:09 PM

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ikr

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i feel like the lower arm of the log should be yellow

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 2:12 PM

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latent scaffold that's kinda weird

very

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here's some more

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i downsized them so i could send more w/out filling the screen

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acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 2:13 PM

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automute when

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 2:13 PM

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lol

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 2:13 PM

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vapid nymph

this isn't the default logo btw

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brb

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no nvm the extent of my editing stops before making a custom vsc office logo

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 2:15 PM

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lol

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 3:39 PM

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there are a lot of ppl abusing the new Discord/Epic nitro giveaway, I assume there will be a lot of bans Pepe_Ummmmm

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 3:43 PM

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jagged fog there are a lot of ppl abusing the new Discord/Epic nitro giveaway, I assume the...

like?

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 3:43 PM

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here we go

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 3:43 PM

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vapid nymph here we go

what is it with you and VSC

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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last mantle what is it with you and VSC

look at my pfp 🙂

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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last mantle like?

wouldn't you like to know loldog
I won't spread it and don't ask

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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ok

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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jagged fog wouldn't you like to know <:loldog:577910535182483457> I won't spread it and do...

basically ppl getting boosted to level 3 and beyond lol

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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vapid nymph look at my pfp 🙂

That doesn't answer the question lol

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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because of 30 nitrohack accounts

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 3:44 PM

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lol

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i mean discord should have expected this

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 3:45 PM

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latent scaffold That doesn't answer the question lol

yes it does

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 3:46 PM

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last mantle i mean discord should have expected this

honestly the exploit is just incredibly bad screw up on their end, so bad that I might even think it's intentional

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 3:46 PM

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it is probably intentional

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it is most likely intentional

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hmm

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 3:47 PM

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jagged fog honestly the exploit is just incredibly bad screw up on their end, so bad that I...

eh, no. Often people are using ~~fake~~ credit card numbers

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 3:47 PM

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is that illegal?

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mostly is i guess

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 3:48 PM

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vapid nymph eh, no. Often people are using ~~fake~~ credit card numbers

can't you detect that? I dunno honestly

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 3:48 PM

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exactly, its illegal

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~~hence why i haven't claimed it~~

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 3:49 PM

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but they don't even check the adress, you can type whatever adress you want

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and how come they don't check very high number of ppl using the same cards?

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it's just bad screw up from them

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 3:52 PM

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vapid nymph eh, no. Often people are using ~~fake~~ credit card numbers

pretty sure like tens of thousands of people have done that, some being clueless

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what will discord do now lol

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 3:52 PM

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last mantle what will discord do now lol

blame stripe

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duh

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 3:52 PM

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lol

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 3:53 PM

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literally this happened yesterday

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https://discordstatus.com/incidents/p6j1tdxyqt2c

We're currently experiencing difficulty with processing payments/bo...

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 3:54 PM

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as long as Epic is loosing money it's alright by me SataniaLaugh

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I'm pissed by their way of throwing money around

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 3:55 PM

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i mean, its better than Apple just consuming money

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EPIC is atleast giving stuff around

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for free

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 3:56 PM

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It is

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but they killed Unreal Tournament and I won't forgive them

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TableSmashu

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 3:56 PM

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lol whats that

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 3:57 PM

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SataniaCry

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it's a game

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 3:58 PM

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fortnite i guess

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some internal scams or something

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who knows

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all I know is that they are very much in loss giving away free stuff like this

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i feel that discord kinda purposely gave away 3 months of nitro on epic

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:00 PM

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they are dumb

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I think they want to attract ppl to their store/launcher

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so they are giving and throwing money at it

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they just forgot one thing

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to actually improve the god damn launcher

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 4:01 PM

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sdfg

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 4:02 PM

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last mantle all I know is that they are very much in loss giving away free stuff like this

wait fr?

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 4:02 PM

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asdf

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:02 PM

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acoustic moss wait fr?

i guess

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:02 PM

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it was supposed to have marketplace for cosmetics or smth but it's dead

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:02 PM

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acoustic moss wait fr?

definitely

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:03 PM

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launcher is fine on higher end PC's

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 4:03 PM

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is epic games dying or something

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:03 PM

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on slower ones, its ass

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:03 PM

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doubt

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:03 PM

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acoustic moss is epic games dying or something

nope, UE 5

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 4:03 PM

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why would they give out free stuff at a loss then

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thonk

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:03 PM

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to attract ppl

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:03 PM

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they still have a shit ton of money, and few software that still make hundred of millions

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 4:03 PM

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o smort

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:03 PM

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acoustic moss why would they give out free stuff at a loss then

advertising

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:04 PM

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well at least the consumers are benefitting

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 4:04 PM

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i ain't part of it 😤

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:04 PM

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i got such good games

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😋

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:04 PM

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last mantle well at least the consumers are benefitting

At the cost of shitty launcher pepe_cry

mellow spire Jun 11, 2021, 4:04 PM

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I regret having it now for some reason

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:05 PM

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i use steam only for CSGO and R6S

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everythign else, epic

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 4:05 PM

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my discord rn

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 4:05 PM

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mellow spire I regret having it now for some reason

lol

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:05 PM

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I just don't get it, launcher has been around for years and years and it's still ultra shit, why don't they spend some money to pay devs to improve it?

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 4:05 PM

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engine-x

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or nuh ginx?

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nuhginx.

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:05 PM

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jagged fog I just don't get it, launcher has been around for years and years and it's still...

is it made with electron eyes_shake

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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or en-jinx?

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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last mantle on slower ones, its ass

it used to be ass on my laptop, but after some updates its more performant

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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last mantle is it made with electron <:eyes_shake:799665107483099207>

so? Electron is dope

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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electron is ok

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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protons thiough

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chonky bois

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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i guess they used javafx or something

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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inb4 neutron

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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last mantle electron is ok

is there something else you'd prefer

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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lol

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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flutter? idk

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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inb4 qt

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Qt too yeah

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wut

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:(

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 4:07 PM

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🍿

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:07 PM

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inb4 inb4

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:07 PM

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dunno those are kinda oldish, trend is having desktop apps with web technology

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ig new qt6 iirc that is more modern

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Qt6 is pog

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:07 PM

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flutter isnt old, qt6 idk anything abt

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Meanwhile, I have no clue as to how Qt6 compares to Qt5

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:08 PM

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i mean yeah its not like electron - with the web tech

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its only PC

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but its really performant

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:08 PM

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latent scaffold Meanwhile, I have no clue as to how Qt6 compares to Qt5

3D stuff mostly

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 4:08 PM

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3D? O.o

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:08 PM

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OpenGL improvements iirc

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:08 PM

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3d!? thats 1 more than 2d!!!!!!

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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they can't come close to Qt

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Qt is so fking vast

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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I've not seen any "3D" Qt applications

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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its insane

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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hello?

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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yo can u tel me some well known qt apps

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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latent scaffold I've not seen any "3D" Qt applications

mercedes benz UI

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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earth to

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okay

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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last mantle mercedes benz UI

huh?

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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oh yea LG tvs use it too

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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yup

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lufthansa uses Qt too

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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but what consumer app

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uses it

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does sharex use it

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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consumer none, cuz companies are lazy

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oh wait

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:09 PM

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bruh

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wait

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Maya

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maya uses it

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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qt is hard to write?

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i see

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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qt is huge

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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inland wolf qt is hard to write?

C++ is hard to learn

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i mean

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sorry

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C++ is hard to uhh

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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inland wolf qt is hard to write?

you have wrappers, like for python you can use PyQT

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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process

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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processing

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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hmm

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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maintain, error handling is tough i guess

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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i mean

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if lg can make good looking ui

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with qt

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 4:10 PM

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fuck discord

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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so can i 🙂

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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jagged fog you have wrappers, like for python you can use PyQT

yeah but python is not really fast yeah?

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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vapid nymph fuck discord

I kind of feel like this is just you

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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the startup times are ass sometimes

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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vapid nymph fuck discord

sad

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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last mantle yeah but python is not really fast yeah?

it's just wrapper so it shouldn't affect it that much

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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jagged fog it's just wrapper so it shouldn't affect it that much

yes, but startup is a problem is all

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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latent scaffold I kind of feel like this is just you

i'm worried lol

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it started to work as soon as i turned on my vpn

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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besides why are you concerned with GUI perfomance? It's mostly just buttons and stuf

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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last mantle the startup times are ass sometimes

ah good point I forgot

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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although i suppose that means that it could be area related

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:11 PM

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not a memory hog 😎

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 4:12 PM

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so where i live is having issues with discord maybe

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:12 PM

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as i said, its used in places where hardware is kinda limited

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like cars

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etc

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:12 PM

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yes

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:12 PM

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yes

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:12 PM

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and tvs

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moment

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:12 PM

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pepe_christ

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:12 PM

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fuck java

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:12 PM

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wha is that

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:12 PM

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hah

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:12 PM

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lol

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3 billion devices

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jovo

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how does it

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run on a toaster

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:13 PM

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regarding flutter, the crossplatform compatibility is so damn good

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:13 PM

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i agree

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:13 PM

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swing is ancient and look outdated

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:13 PM

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lol

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:13 PM

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you only need to use flutter tbh

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:13 PM

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swing old?!?

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:13 PM

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why learn anything else

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:13 PM

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just wait till they make it faster

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its going to be Satisfaction

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:14 PM

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inland wolf just wait till they make it faster

yup

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:14 PM

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they already made it faster on desktop wit flutter 2

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and better on web

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 4:14 PM

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yeah but Qt is modern with material theme etc and still performant

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hah

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:14 PM

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take that 😎

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:14 PM

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dunno I always had high memory footprint with that, after optimatizations best I could do is 20mb for ultra simple app monkaHmm

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:14 PM

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javaerz

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wtf

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i thought javas vm was exceptional

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3 billion devices*

jagged fog Jun 11, 2021, 4:17 PM

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inland wolf *3 billion devices*\*

that's been there for years

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by now it's like 20 billion

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:17 PM

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lol

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youd think they would increase that number on the installer

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wait

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i thoguht that kinda stuff was made in c

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 4:20 PM

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@latent scaffold@inland wolf

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hence why the vpn works 😛

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:20 PM

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yes

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cLang

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https://youtu.be/GW6GSa14xXI

YouTube

Kocayine

Bosanska Artiljerija

Glad this one is not gone; I spent an unacceptable time making this...

▶ Play video

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just listen to this

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while doing math

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especially trigonometry

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 4:21 PM

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LOL ITS A CLOUDFLARE ISSUE

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https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/0cvlzpvwg251

Elevated Errors in Chicago and LA

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tomorrow, amazon aws and microsoft azure. Or maybe Google Cloud Compute

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after all, fastly was just hit

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hmmmm

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.status cat 206

median domeBOT Jun 11, 2021, 4:25 PM

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**Status: 206**

honest pawn Jun 11, 2021, 4:41 PM

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Lol

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.status dog 206

median domeBOT Jun 11, 2021, 4:42 PM

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**Status: 206**

honest pawn Jun 11, 2021, 4:42 PM

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😳

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 4:42 PM

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D: that's sad

honest pawn Jun 11, 2021, 4:43 PM

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I think I'm sticking to .status cat

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 4:54 PM

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👀

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 4:54 PM

#

.

honest pawn Jun 11, 2021, 4:57 PM

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What

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 4:59 PM

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🤔

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 5:00 PM

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latent scaffold if they're botting, they're not paying

ah i wasn't referring the account, i meant the credit card

bleak lintel Jun 11, 2021, 5:00 PM

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vapid nymph .

don't ping me and edit it out

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 5:01 PM

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lol

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he knows.

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 5:01 PM

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bleak lintel don't ping me and edit it out

i realized I shouldn't have pinged you there sorry

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 5:01 PM

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run while u can boy

silent plaza Jun 11, 2021, 5:01 PM

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🏃‍♂️

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 5:03 PM

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vapid nymph i realized I shouldn't have pinged you there sorry

Ghost pinging is more annoying than simply clarifying that you incorrectly pinged

bleak lintel Jun 11, 2021, 5:46 PM

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this

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 5:56 PM

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travelling salesman in rust ferrisParty

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 5:56 PM

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did he manage to sell anything

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 5:56 PM

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yes

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he sold ants

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i mean

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 5:56 PM

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ant trafficking

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 5:56 PM

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it is all ants

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 5:57 PM

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ant right violation

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 5:57 PM

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so they sold honey or smth idk

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 5:57 PM

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ants dont make honey

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but ok

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 5:57 PM

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wtv

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 5:57 PM

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ig they just stole it from the bees

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smart ants

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 5:57 PM

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yes

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 5:57 PM

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steal from bees and sell as their own

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 5:57 PM

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yes

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nice it works on more points too, and the performance is great

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ACO is epic

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 5:58 PM

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aco

acoustic moss Jun 11, 2021, 6:12 PM

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very ncie

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 6:14 PM

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ikr

gritty zinc Jun 11, 2021, 6:19 PM

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edgy crest nice it works on more points too, and the performance is great

nice, what does this use for the visualization?

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 6:19 PM

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SFML

gritty zinc Jun 11, 2021, 6:19 PM

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gesundheit

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 6:20 PM

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goose_alert

gritty zinc Jun 11, 2021, 6:20 PM

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these bindings?
https://docs.rs/sfml/0.16.0/sfml/

sfml - Rust

Rust bindings for SFML, the Simple and Fast Multimedia Library.

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 6:21 PM

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yeah

gritty zinc Jun 11, 2021, 6:22 PM

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interesting

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 6:24 PM

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yes

gritty zinc Jun 11, 2021, 6:24 PM

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looks like
https://crates.io/crates/gfx/0.18.2
is a more popular one (I checked what ggez uses)

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 6:24 PM

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smfl

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 6:24 PM

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hmm

gritty zinc Jun 11, 2021, 6:24 PM

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I wonder how they compare

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 6:24 PM

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so fuck my life

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 6:24 PM

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lol now vinam has to rewrite again

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 6:24 PM

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i find it comfortable to use sfml

inland wolf Jun 11, 2021, 6:25 PM

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latent scaffold so fuck my life

lol

last mantle Jun 11, 2021, 6:26 PM

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inland wolf ant trafficking

lmao

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 6:26 PM

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https://arewegameyet.rs/ecosystem/3drendering/#crates

Are we game yet?

3D Rendering

Graphics APIs, wrappers for and backends to Vulkan and OpenGL, and more

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 6:33 PM

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@latent scaffold

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 6:34 PM

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VSCode :[

bleak lintel Jun 11, 2021, 6:35 PM

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edgy crest travelling salesman in rust <:ferrisParty:803978520031133696>

nice!

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solve those warnings 👏👏👏👏

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 6:36 PM

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ferrisballSweat

bleak lintel Jun 11, 2021, 6:37 PM

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Rust compiler warnings are always quite clear though so it's not too crazy

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 6:37 PM

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yeah

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 6:37 PM

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lmao I'm always so picky about solving warnings as soon as I get them

edgy crest Jun 11, 2021, 6:37 PM

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not sure what to do about this one rn tho

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 6:37 PM

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always gotta have that green check mark

gritty zinc Jun 11, 2021, 6:38 PM

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well, depending on what you are doing in None, you can use the .entry way instead of matching on what get gives you

vapid nymph Jun 11, 2021, 6:43 PM

#

#

this was the first draft

bleak lintel Jun 11, 2021, 6:49 PM

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latent scaffold lmao I'm always so picky about solving warnings as soon as I get them

lol me too

modern haven Jun 11, 2021, 7:26 PM

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edgy crest travelling salesman in rust <:ferrisParty:803978520031133696>

damn ive been working on this in Unity, nice job. what did you you use for GUI?

gritty zinc Jun 11, 2021, 7:38 PM

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modern haven damn ive been working on this in Unity, nice job. what did you you use for GUI?

lol, I had the same question
#ot1-perplexing-regexing message

modern haven Jun 11, 2021, 7:54 PM

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😂

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 9:44 PM

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@quick ridge This is all I like to see when I'm in my terminal. Current working directory and whether I'm in a git repo or not haha

quick ridge Jun 11, 2021, 9:46 PM

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fossil salmon <@!159869845557608448> This is all I like to see when I'm in my terminal. Curren...

man thats crazy - i show my path - time uptime etc -
i have autocompleteion and path hot-commands

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😩 cant function without it lol

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 9:47 PM

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Well I can add more features with zsh plugins, but I don't like to see too much information on the screen at once

tribal knot Jun 11, 2021, 9:47 PM

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Me: *sees the channel name*
Also me: *ghost ping mods*

quick ridge Jun 11, 2021, 9:49 PM

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fossil salmon Well I can add more features with zsh plugins, but I don't like to see too much ...

imagine using ls instead of exa tho

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 9:49 PM

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quick ridge imagine using ls instead of exa tho

Imagine using exa instead of lsdeluxe tho

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yikes...

quick ridge Jun 11, 2021, 9:50 PM

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fossil salmon Imagine using exa instead of lsdeluxe tho

theres only one LSD i use daily 😎

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 9:50 PM

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quick ridge theres only one LSD i use daily 😎

😎

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Are we talking about prompts

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cause like

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oh heck I took that at 4:20

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 10:38 PM

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latent scaffold cause like

Nice!

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 10:38 PM

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This message was sponsored by zsh + powerlevel10k

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 10:39 PM

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I remember discovering zsh and thinking the powerline themes were awesome so I installed powerlevel9k 🤦‍♂️

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It was a good thing powerlevel10k uses the same configs

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 10:40 PM

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lol

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Love zsh tbh

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 10:40 PM

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It's so nice

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 10:40 PM

#

I eventually should really look into configuring it more, my zshrc feels so empty

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 10:40 PM

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Mine is super empty

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I need to get my git plugin back honestly

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So helpful

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 10:41 PM

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what does a "git plugin" entail?

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 10:41 PM

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latent scaffold what does a "git plugin" entail?

It really just shortens all the git commands you would typically use, my favorite being gst which replaces git status

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You could do it all with aliases, but it's easier to just use the plugin

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 10:42 PM

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oh, I see

#

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 10:43 PM

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Some bat nice

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 10:43 PM

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lmao I couldn't even be bothered to format it

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 10:43 PM

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Hahaha

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Meh

#

Formatting shformatting

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 10:44 PM

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At one point, I did care... but now with like poetry, p10k and stuff, I get confused where I'm meant to put things

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like p10k demands that it be run last

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or something

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 10:44 PM

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Yessss I used to run into that issue a lot

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But I don't do a lot of configuring anymore

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 10:45 PM

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Thankfully zsh is kind of great out of the box

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 10:45 PM

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It is

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I actually stopped using powerline and went for the default theme

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 10:45 PM

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it has quite a few built-in prompts

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if you enable the prompt component, you get the prompt command

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has some pretty "okay" basic prompts

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 10:46 PM

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My biggest issue was how much time I spent configuring things and not actually using them haha

#

I even started getting into ricing which I quit shortly after because it's very time consuming

latent scaffold Jun 11, 2021, 10:48 PM

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Yeah, I barely did anything with my KDE "rice"

#

Eventually I just go with "this looks good enough, and it's effective"

fossil salmon Jun 11, 2021, 10:48 PM

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Right

mild abyss Jun 12, 2021, 1:17 AM

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fossil salmon My biggest issue was how much time I spent configuring things and not actually u...

'me in a nutshell

solemn leaf Jun 12, 2021, 5:33 AM

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mellow spire Jun 12, 2021, 6:10 AM

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PE_PandaThink

lunar crescent Jun 12, 2021, 6:11 AM

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it doesn't work with light mode

inland wolf Jun 12, 2021, 6:13 AM

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L

dry flume Jun 12, 2021, 6:40 AM

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steve_spin

edgy crest Jun 12, 2021, 6:49 AM

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noob

brazen ingot Jun 12, 2021, 7:47 AM

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@edgy crest which linux distro are you on?

inland wolf Jun 12, 2021, 7:48 AM

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manojro

brazen ingot Jun 12, 2021, 7:48 AM

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ok

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@inland wolf how about you?

inland wolf Jun 12, 2021, 7:49 AM

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windows

brazen ingot Jun 12, 2021, 7:50 AM

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ohk, i am also thinking of shifting to linux distro

inland wolf Jun 12, 2021, 7:50 AM

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yes

brazen ingot Jun 12, 2021, 7:50 AM

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Well, but I am beginner in using linux os

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Like fully beginner lemon_pensive

inland wolf Jun 12, 2021, 8:02 AM

#

contrast moment

rough sapphire Jun 12, 2021, 8:07 AM

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Oh, damn

slender vector Jun 12, 2021, 8:11 AM

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Minecrafrt

inland wolf Jun 12, 2021, 8:12 AM

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ayyy

#

i got ubuntu on a non-system drive

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now i have both linux and windows

#

i can make fun of both sides now 😎

last mantle Jun 12, 2021, 8:14 AM

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imagine using ubuntu wahsadaflol

inland wolf Jun 12, 2021, 8:14 AM

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ok

#

bro

#

spunchbob

acoustic moss Jun 12, 2021, 8:15 AM

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inland wolf i can make fun of both sides now 😎

also get made fun of by both sides 📉

last mantle Jun 12, 2021, 8:16 AM

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ablobhydraulicpress

inland wolf Jun 12, 2021, 8:18 AM

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acoustic moss also get made fun of by both sides 📉

bruh

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guys

#

im using apt

last mantle Jun 12, 2021, 8:32 AM

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i chose arch/opensuse cuz i hated apt lol

#

imagine doing update && upgrade

rough sapphire Jun 12, 2021, 8:35 AM

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👋

brazen ingot Jun 12, 2021, 8:52 AM

#

@rough sapphire Hello!

#

Is this @distant stump ?

rough sapphire Jun 12, 2021, 8:52 AM

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hi brainmon

distant stump Jun 12, 2021, 8:53 AM

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No its not me

near bolt Jun 12, 2021, 8:55 AM

#

for boolean values, when do we use if (!isEliminated) vs if (isEliminated == false)?

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 8:56 AM

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well, the latter is more verbose for no reason

near bolt Jun 12, 2021, 8:57 AM

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gritty zinc well, the latter is more verbose for no reason

oh so it still works?

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 8:57 AM

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sure, why not? you can compare two booleans with ==

#

it's just a weird way of doing that

edgy crest Jun 12, 2021, 8:58 AM

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yes

near bolt Jun 12, 2021, 8:58 AM

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oh ok thx

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 8:59 AM

#

in Rust, clippy has a lint for this

edgy crest Jun 12, 2021, 8:59 AM

#

o

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is clippy nice

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 8:59 AM

#

    if a==false{
        println!("yay");
    }

warning: equality checks against false can be replaced by a negation
 --> src/main.rs:5:8
  |
5 |     if a==false{
  |        ^^^^^^^^ help: try simplifying it as shown: `!a`
  |
  = note: `#[warn(clippy::bool_comparison)]` on by default
  = help: for further information visit https://rust-lang.github.io/rust-clippy/master/index.html#bool_comparison

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clippy is amazing.

edgy crest Jun 12, 2021, 8:59 AM

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o, ill give it a try

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 9:00 AM

#

if you're using rust-analyzer or the Rust extension, you already are using it, I'm fairly sure

rough sapphire Jun 12, 2021, 9:00 AM

#

near bolt for boolean values, when do we use `if (!isEliminated)` vs `if (isEliminated == ...

Is that JavaScript?

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 9:00 AM

#

gritty zinc if you're using rust-analyzer *or* the Rust extension, you already are using it,...

hmm, actually not sure about rust-analyzer

near bolt Jun 12, 2021, 9:00 AM

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rough sapphire Is that JavaScript?

im doing c

rough sapphire Jun 12, 2021, 9:01 AM

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near bolt im doing c

Oh

#

Huh

near bolt Jun 12, 2021, 9:19 AM

#

i always get confused when returning true or false in a loop

#

eg.

bool vote(int voter, int rank, string name)
{
    //iterate through each candidate
    for (int i = 0; i < candidate_count; i++)
    {
        //check if it is existing name
        if (strcmp(name, candidates[i].name) == 0)
        {
            //if name matches, add vote choice to correct location in preferences
            preferences[voter][rank] = i;
            return true;
        }
    }
    return false;
}```

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like here, you return true in the for loop, but false in the outer loop

#

i want to put false as else under if but at the same time it shouldnt be in the for loop

tranquil orchid Jun 12, 2021, 9:22 AM

#

The rust-analyzer extension is great

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 9:28 AM

#

near bolt i want to put false as `else` under `if` but at the same time it shouldnt be in ...

well, in Python you could write this as

for candidate in candidates:
    if #...:
        return True
else:
    return False

#

oh, under the if? That's just wrong, that'd mean the loop always ends on the first iteration no matter what

near bolt Jun 12, 2021, 9:30 AM

#

gritty zinc well, in Python you could write this as ```py for candidate in candidates: i...

oh i was thinking end when (strcmp(name, candidates[i].name) != 0)

#

why is it if we put under else it would end on the first iteration no matter what

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 9:31 AM

#

...well, in what case will

        if (strcmp(name, candidates[i].name) == 0)
        {
            //if name matches, add vote choice to correct location in preferences
            preferences[voter][rank] = i;
            return true;
        }
        else {
            return false;
        }

not return?

near bolt Jun 12, 2021, 9:32 AM

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gritty zinc ...well, in what case will ```c if (strcmp(name, candidates[i].name) ==...

uh isit if (strcmp(name, candidates[i].name) != 0)

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 9:32 AM

#

not sure what you mean

acoustic moss Jun 12, 2021, 9:32 AM

#

then it'll return false

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 9:32 AM

#

show the code you're suggesting then

near bolt Jun 12, 2021, 9:33 AM

#

gritty zinc ...well, in what case will ```c if (strcmp(name, candidates[i].name) ==...

ya this one

acoustic moss Jun 12, 2021, 9:34 AM

#

strcmp(name, candidates[i].name) is either == 0, or != 0
if its == 0, it'll enter the if and return true
if its != 0, it'll enter the else and return false

#

in either case, it ends right in the first iteration

near bolt Jun 12, 2021, 9:37 AM

#

acoustic moss in either case, it ends right in the first iteration

oh yeah

near bolt Jun 12, 2021, 9:38 AM

#

gritty zinc ...well, in what case will ```c if (strcmp(name, candidates[i].name) ==...

but I don't get why this is wrong other than the fact that there isn't a return function for outside the for loop

#

        {
            //if name matches, add vote choice to correct location in preferences
            preferences[voter][rank] = i;
            return true;
        }
        else {
            return false;
        }```

acoustic moss Jun 12, 2021, 9:40 AM

#

what about the fact that it always ends in the first iteration

near bolt Jun 12, 2021, 9:42 AM

#

acoustic moss what about the fact that it always ends in the first iteration

I thought that's okay cuz you're going to return false anyway so its okay to end after the first iteration

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 9:42 AM

#

cuz you're going to return false anyway
why'd that be the case?

acoustic moss Jun 12, 2021, 9:42 AM

#

if its outside the loop, then the full loop has to complete before you return false

#

its entirely possible that it would return true at the 5th iteration

near bolt Jun 12, 2021, 9:48 AM

#

gritty zinc > cuz you're going to return false anyway why'd that be the case?

I'm not sure but this is how I see it, I think there's a conceptual error

for this function, if there's a name input that isn't listed in the previous array, it shd return false and it would break completely so it doesn't matter if the subsequent values in the loop are true/false cuz by returning one false value, the program breaks

yeah I'm not sure when we return false, does the program end?

mild abyss Jun 12, 2021, 11:08 AM

#

tranquil orchid The rust-analyzer extension is great

yep

rough sapphire Jun 12, 2021, 11:18 AM

#

I decided to use an old tablet (6/7 years old) as a second screen to go through some tutorials

#

it's a bit slow... I might format it latter, maybe have it run linux

#

but this left me thinking, is there a way to fight against programmed obsolescence?

#

note: i'm around 30 minutes in, I can't still get a video to play 😂

#

technically it plays, but it's always a youtube add on endless loop

blazing acorn Jun 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

#

I have an 8-year-old Android tablet that I use mostly as an ebook reader and sudoku player

#

you can install firefox with ublock origin, and youtube works just fine

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 12:44 PM

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rough sapphire it's a bit slow... I might format it latter, maybe have it run linux

If it's an Android, I'd say just try and use LineageOS

rough sapphire Jun 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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it's windows

#

one of the first hybrid asus tablets

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 1:28 PM

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oh jeez

tribal aurora Jun 12, 2021, 1:31 PM

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what test framework do you guys use for c++? gtest, ctest, cxxtest?

bleak lintel Jun 12, 2021, 3:39 PM

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net traffic graphs

#

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 3:44 PM

#

what's "ens3" even mean

#

Reminds me of like... ethernet

#

also I see you use Stylus :O
what for?

bleak lintel Jun 12, 2021, 3:45 PM

#

latent scaffold what's "ens3" even mean

a network interface backed by a PCI express hotplug slot

#

so slot 0 is ens0

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etc.

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you can also get enp1s3 for other types of pci adapters

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Interesting. I definitely won't remember that

bleak lintel Jun 12, 2021, 3:45 PM

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and then you will also see eth0

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which is where no firmware information can determine a name

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oh and eno[1-N] as well

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 3:46 PM

#

bleak lintel Jun 12, 2021, 3:46 PM

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the whole thing is called predictable interface names so you can consistently script around network interfaces

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 3:46 PM

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makes sense

bleak lintel Jun 12, 2021, 3:47 PM

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latent scaffold also I see you use Stylus :O what for?

lol i don't even know, i used to have it for github, but now it's just there

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 3:47 PM

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Yeah, I only have it for a single theme

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https://github.com/Brettm12345/github-moonlight

solemn leaf Jun 12, 2021, 4:01 PM

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bleak lintel net traffic graphs

hacker news

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sus

inland wolf Jun 12, 2021, 4:03 PM

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no thoughts on the list

stark oasis Jun 12, 2021, 4:23 PM

#

┌─[username@box] - [~]
└─[$] ubuntu-drivers list

WARNING:root:_pkg_get_support nvidia-driver-390: package has invalid Support Legacyheader, cannot determine support level
nvidia-driver-450-server, (kernel modules provided by linux-modules-nvidia-450-server-generic-hwe-20.04-edge)
nvidia-driver-460-server, (kernel modules provided by linux-modules-nvidia-460-server-generic-hwe-20.04-edge)
nvidia-driver-465, (kernel modules provided by linux-modules-nvidia-465-generic-hwe-20.04-edge)
nvidia-driver-418-server, (kernel modules provided by linux-modules-nvidia-418-server-generic-hwe-20.04-edge)
nvidia-driver-460, (kernel modules provided by linux-modules-nvidia-460-generic-hwe-20.04-edge)
nvidia-driver-390, (kernel modules provided by linux-modules-nvidia-390-generic-hwe-20.04-edge)

What is this warning and is this a security issue of some kind? package has invalid Support Legacyheader, cannot determine support level

GPU seems to work.

#

Do I need all of those drivers to use 460?

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 4:29 PM

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stark oasis Do I need all of those drivers to use 460?

uh... no

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should just be able to like sudo ubuntu-drivers auto-install

stark oasis Jun 12, 2021, 4:33 PM

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└─[$] ubuntu-drivers --help | grep install | tail -n 2
  autoinstall  Deprecated, please use "install" instead
  install      Install a driver [driver[:version][,driver[:version]]]

I tried to do ubuntu-drivers install nvidia-driver-460 but it just says
no drivers found for this installation

That being said, everything seems to work. I just dont like that warning.

#

I don't want the 390 and anything i dont need

#

These drivers are all installed via apt, but i feel like they are baggage and vulnerable to be left there if not needed

#

well 460 and 390 are there. I think im going to straight up remove 390 and if it breaks, I will fix it in recovery shell.

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 4:38 PM

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weird

stark oasis Jun 12, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Okay, so apparently its not installed. Maybe the output of ubuntu-drivers list refers to options, not things that are installed... I dont like the warning but I dont know what it means and apparently no one else on the Google does either haha

#

It works so maybe i shouldnt worry about it

#

WARNING:root:_pkg_get_support nvidia-driver-390: package has invalid Support Legacyheader, cannot determine support level

#

what does this mean

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 4:42 PM

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stark oasis Okay, so apparently its not installed. Maybe the output of `ubuntu-drivers list`...

oh yes it's only options

stark oasis Jun 12, 2021, 4:42 PM

#

that makes sense

#

ty

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 5:27 PM

#

#

Oh wow, this is kind of epic

quiet tusk Jun 12, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Any MTG players in da hood?

#

I need some input on something I'm working on

inland wolf Jun 12, 2021, 5:36 PM

#

latent scaffold

oh shiiii

#

that is cool

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 5:39 PM

#

inland wolf oh shiiii

apparently it also has stuff for Rust

inland wolf Jun 12, 2021, 5:39 PM

#

intellij?

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 5:39 PM

#

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 5:39 PM

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inland wolf intellij?

yuh

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this is through the EduTools plugin

inland wolf Jun 12, 2021, 5:43 PM

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nice

#

cool stuff

quiet tusk Jun 12, 2021, 6:06 PM

#

I'm working on building a 6th color of magic for MTG. Its a fun challenge (a hard one too)

#

I'll ask you guys to suspend your disbelief, I know and agree with most of the reasons not to add a sixth color: its just a fun thing to keep me busy is all

#

Anyway, I've toyed around with mechanics but I've decided what I really need to do is define the color's personality first and let the mechanics stem from that

#

Gold is the color of perseverance in the face of adversity. Gold’s truest belief is that anything is possible with only a dream and the will to make it happen. This sense of pragmatism stems from a deep mistrust of the natural order—one which it believes exists solely to grind down peoples and their achievements. Pragmatic and ever the optimist, Gold seeks to manifest its own destiny through cooperation, wit, and an unyielding will to build a better world.

#

My color is Gold and as it stands right now it sits between Blue and White. I wanted to get you guys thoughts. I know its just one paragraph but I've actually put a great deal of thought into it. As the thesis paragraph for the entire color it should embody all of the core concepts I'd like my color to have

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Those ideas are, loosely: hard work, endurance, technology, technocracy, mistrust of nature, stubbornness, wit, cooperation, defensiveness, capitalism, social responsibility (taxation will be a fun mechanic to play with), and sustainability

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The main thing I think I'm missing is the capitalism related stuff 😐 Not sure how to work it in

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 6:17 PM

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it seems to me that unlike the mindsets associated with every other color which can go anywhere from nice to really scary, this one is strictly "good".

quiet tusk Jun 12, 2021, 6:17 PM

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gritty zinc it seems to me that unlike the mindsets associated with every other color which ...

Its the classic issue a writer faces- giving the character that is dear to their heart a dark side

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 6:18 PM

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pretty much

quiet tusk Jun 12, 2021, 6:19 PM

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The main character flaws I'm trying to work in as of now are pretty weak. That its distrust of nature and its stubbornness leaves it blind to the nuances of the world, and that being capitalist and technocratic, it leaves little room for the weak or for democracy

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I think the core of what I'm working with is different enough from the other colors to work with. Have you got any suggestions?

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 6:20 PM

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you could go further and make them the kind of rational that would, being a ruler, euthanize all the elderly and sick people because they are a waste of resources... but that's kinda White

quiet tusk Jun 12, 2021, 6:21 PM

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I mean, I really like the idea of taxation

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 6:22 PM

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gritty zinc you could go further and make them the kind of rational that would, being a rule...

woah woah woah this doesn't sound great out of context

quiet tusk Jun 12, 2021, 6:22 PM

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For technical reasons I want to stick with capitalism, but communism (the Russian kind) might be a bit more accurate

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 6:22 PM

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latent scaffold woah woah woah this doesn't sound great out of context

lol

quiet tusk Jun 12, 2021, 6:22 PM

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Pragmatic + Authoritarian = taking from the strong to give to the weak

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 6:23 PM

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uhh do you mean the opposite?

quiet tusk Jun 12, 2021, 6:23 PM

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I guess so. (I've got competing ideas fighting in my head)

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I suppose an authoritarian communism works well. China's government is technocratic and nature and the whole idea of communism was supposed to be a better world for everyone

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And I could take examples from the real world. Especially when it comes to one of white and blue's main intersections, detention (forced tapping, preventing untapping, and preventing creatures from attacking or being tapped)

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:11 PM

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hi

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ok

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:11 PM

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Imagine Like.
Needing to Declare That You Are defining a function.

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:12 PM

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amazing, amirite

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:12 PM

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instead of just assuming it based off a name and a () 🤪

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:12 PM

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fn main() {
}
``` so pretty

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:12 PM

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int main() {

}

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:12 PM

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I prefer type declarations with : and -> over type name

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Rust is one character shorter

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!

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like, Python's typehints?

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:12 PM

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yeah, rust too

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:13 PM

#

thonkfast

round rose Jun 12, 2021, 7:13 PM

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C++ also supports that format

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auto func() -> returntype

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:13 PM

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exactly why we do not use C++ =D

round rose Jun 12, 2021, 7:13 PM

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I'd say that's one of the few things that C++ does right

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:13 PM

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GOD DAMNNN

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:13 PM

#

fn foo() -> Vec<u32> {
  let mut myvec = Vec::new();
  let mut x: u32 = 10;
  myvec.push(x);
  myvec
}

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

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~~why mut x~~

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

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does C have type inference?

round rose Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

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It's a mess, but the -> annotation feels better than whatever that is

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

#

gritty zinc ~~why mut x~~

oh wait

#

I was intending on chanign it

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

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C has no type inference to my knowledge.

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

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rust better then

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

#

HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNG

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

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gotta have the type inference

round rose Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

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C++ has auto

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

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lmao

solid elbow Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

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C doesn't have type inference, C++ does.

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

#

hm

#

rust better

round rose Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

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yes

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 7:14 PM

#

fun main(args: List<String>) {
    println("ooga booga")
}

#

did I do that right

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

#

kotlin?

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

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yes

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

#

nice

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

#

we should just return to monke and code in C.

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

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no

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only rust

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

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anarcho primitivism.

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

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lmfao this language is cool but so much is new to me

round rose Jun 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Go back, I want to be monke

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Rust can compile to JS, can C do that?

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

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eager cliff we should just return to monke and code in C.

By the way, check out this article 😛
https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3212479

C Is Not a Low-level Language - ACM Queue

In the wake of the recent Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities, it

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

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fine, asm then

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

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your computer is not a fast PDP-11 gang.,

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BUT WHAT IF IT IS???

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 7:15 PM

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it argues that C fails at being a low-level language by not having the right design for modern processors

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:16 PM

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eh yeah honestly i could see that.

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i never fully read that paper though.

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but i can see it being true.

solid elbow Jun 12, 2021, 7:16 PM

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yeah, any assumption that C will behave the way your hardware behaves is unfounded. It's low level, but it's no longer just a macro assembler

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:16 PM

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also how dare you assume my computer specs. boxneutral

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not even ANSI C can save us now.

#

truly terrifying times we live in.

solid elbow Jun 12, 2021, 7:17 PM

#

for instance, hardware has predictable behavior on signed integer overflow, but that's undefined behavior in C, and optimizers can remove code based on an assumption that signed integer overflow wraps

#

This function, for instance:

int add_5(int *x) {
    if (*x + 5 < *x) {
        printf("Overflow detected!\n");
        return 1;
    }
    *x += 5;
    return 0;
}

isn't gonna do what the author expected it to.

#

The optimizer's gonna come along and optimize that to:

int add_5(int *x) {
    *x += 5;
    return 0;
}

eager cliff Jun 12, 2021, 7:20 PM

#

thonkfast

solid elbow Jun 12, 2021, 7:20 PM

#

it'll remove the branch that can only be true if the user's code performs a signed integer overflow, because signed integer overflows are undefined behavior, and so it's allowed to ignore the case where they occur.

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 8:53 PM

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I think I'm falling in love

gritty zinc Jun 12, 2021, 9:02 PM

#

and you can have a sealed class Animal with subclasses Cat and Dog, and then you can match on it!

#

@latent scaffold

fun main() {
    handle(Cat("Whiskers"))
    handle(Dog("Dawg"))
}

fun handle(animal: Animal){
    when (animal){
        is Cat -> animal.meow()
        is Dog -> animal.bark()
    }
}

sealed class Animal(var name: String){}

class Cat(name: String): Animal(name){
    fun meow(){
        println("${this.name} meows!")
    }
}

class Dog(name: String): Animal(name){
    fun bark(){
        println("${this.name} barks!")
    }
}

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check this out

#

Rust-like enums and pattern matching in Kotlin ❤️

#

note how I didn't need any type casting in handle

#

unlike Java, Kotlin is smart enough to know that inside an is Cat match arm, animal is a Cat and so has meow

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And what sealed does here is allows us to not include an else arm in that when which would be required for a normal class

#

because with sealed classes, the compiler knows all possible variants at compile-time and so can be sure two arms is all that can happen.

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Ohh, that's cool

#

There are so many small things that I'm learning that I find to be really neat

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 9:29 PM

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oh yes, that was in the Koan

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 9:53 PM

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latent scaffold I think I'm falling in love

CAT

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CAT CAT CAT

#

CAT AT

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hm

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I should learn kotlin

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 9:58 PM

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yes

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I'm liking Kotlin

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 10:03 PM

#

hm

#

ok

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 10:42 PM

#

cypherial

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help

#

what jdk do I use

tardy rain Jun 12, 2021, 10:54 PM

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Openjdk

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 11:01 PM

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ok

#

what version of jvm

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 11:28 PM

#

low chasm what version of jvm

16

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openJDK 16

tardy rain Jun 12, 2021, 11:48 PM

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I feel like 15 is the most recent lts

#

Huh 16 is available

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 11:50 PM

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tardy rain Huh 16 is available

Minecraft 1.17 requires 16 haha

#

17's still in early access

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 11:51 PM

#

hm

#

I'm frustrated

tardy rain Jun 12, 2021, 11:51 PM

#

I guess time flies when youre ~~having fun~~ stuck in a lockdown

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 11:51 PM

#

no more kotlin today

#

I fucked up my intellij settings and it wont work

fallow warren Jun 12, 2021, 11:57 PM

#

ah

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 11:57 PM

#

low chasm I fucked up my intellij settings and it wont work

show

low chasm Jun 12, 2021, 11:57 PM

#

k

#

bootin intellij

#

some wsl shit

#

latent scaffold Jun 12, 2021, 11:59 PM

#

uh... what

low chasm Jun 13, 2021, 12:00 AM

#

I duno

latent scaffold Jun 13, 2021, 2:32 AM

#

sealed class Animal(val name: String) {
    init {
        println("Created Animal named `$name`")
    }

    fun speak() {
        when (this) {
            is Cat -> this.meow()
            is Dog -> this.bark()
        }
    }
}

class Cat(name: String) : Animal(name) {
    fun meow() {
        println("${this.name} meows!")
    }
}

class Dog(name: String) : Animal(name) {
    fun bark() {
        println("${this.name} barks!")
    }
}


fun main() {
    Cat("Whiskers").speak()
    Dog("Brutus").speak()
}

I decided to play around with some of sealed class

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This is great haha

fallow warren Jun 13, 2021, 2:34 AM

#

I thought this was python
I was so confused

#

Looks great

latent scaffold Jun 13, 2021, 2:35 AM

#

This is Kotlin

tardy rain Jun 13, 2021, 2:35 AM

#

Why does kotlin get such colourful highlighting

latent scaffold Jun 13, 2021, 2:36 AM

#

low chasm Jun 13, 2021, 2:36 AM

#

what theme is this

latent scaffold Jun 13, 2021, 2:36 AM

#

Man, I always thought Kotlin was just "Java but better"

latent scaffold Jun 13, 2021, 2:36 AM

#

low chasm what theme is this

Material Moonlight

low chasm Jun 13, 2021, 2:36 AM

#

i want it

#

ok

#

I need to fix my fucked up settings first though

#

Might just do a complete reinstall

#

I have no idea what the fuck went wrong

latent scaffold Jun 13, 2021, 2:37 AM

#

it's not IntelliJ

#

it'd be the JDK

low chasm Jun 13, 2021, 2:37 AM

#

I've installed like 20 jdks

#

none work

latent scaffold Jun 13, 2021, 2:37 AM

#

What OS?

low chasm Jun 13, 2021, 2:38 AM

#

windows

#

Its probably because of WSL

latent scaffold Jun 13, 2021, 2:38 AM

#

ah. I dunno then

low chasm Jun 13, 2021, 2:38 AM

#

and I can't find the settings where WSL is configured in intellij

#

fuck, I wish valorant worked on linux

latent scaffold Jun 13, 2021, 2:38 AM

#

I think it's your terminal

low chasm Jun 13, 2021, 2:38 AM

#

then I might just switch over my PC too

low chasm Jun 13, 2021, 2:38 AM

#

latent scaffold I think it's your terminal

probably

#

I changed it to powershell though

latent scaffold Jun 13, 2021, 2:39 AM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

I dunno, all I had to do was like sudo zypper in java-16-openjdk or something like that

#

also, EduTools is actually kind of neat

low chasm Jun 13, 2021, 2:47 AM

#

fuck

latent scaffold Jun 13, 2021, 2:48 AM

#

yes

low chasm Jun 13, 2021, 2:48 AM

#

what do i do

#

im in a dilemna

#

why cant linux just take over yet

latent scaffold Jun 13, 2021, 2:48 AM

#

Yeet WSL

low chasm Jun 13, 2021, 2:49 AM

#

I'm very tempted at installing arch on my pc

#

but my friends would freak out at me

#

because then no more valorant

latent scaffold Jun 13, 2021, 2:51 AM

#

I guess just dual boot for a single game

vapid nymph Jun 13, 2021, 2:54 AM

#

wow

#

a server im in is getting raided

#

with over 50 accounts

#

just mass pinging

#

defintely they are testing if their bots work since there's only 200 total members

#

and 100 of those are bots

low chasm Jun 13, 2021, 2:54 AM

#

damn

#

kind of sucks, eh

vapid nymph Jun 13, 2021, 3:15 AM

#

and close and block 87+ people from modmail

#

for all reporting the same thing

fallow warren Jun 13, 2021, 3:29 AM

#

eh discord moment

vapid nymph Jun 13, 2021, 3:44 AM

#

vapid nymph and close and block 87+ people from modmail

(these people were the raiders)

stark oasis Jun 13, 2021, 4:50 AM

#

Im having a brain fart. What is the word for when a company is legally entitled to get paid if you profit off something because they own its engineering. Like... they have engineered a seed, so farmers must pay them if they sell its fruit
it starts with a t maybe?

#

no, its a patent

acoustic moss Jun 13, 2021, 4:55 AM

#

were you looking for trademark

solemn leaf Jun 13, 2021, 5:53 AM

#

stark oasis no, its a patent

that's an agreement

#

there's a better term for it

#

wait lemme thonk

#

thonk

stark oasis Jun 13, 2021, 5:58 AM

#

var lBuilder = $SM.get('game.builder.level');
        if (lBuilder === 0) {
            Notifications.notify(Room, _(`a ragged stranger stumbles through the door and collapses in the corner. 
            one arm must be slotted with some type of chrome -- an amputated stump -- no, automated SurgOps intelligence, 
            with a Deploy&Maintain strategy to administer PIVC: peripheral intraveinous catheter. loading six rounds into 
            his arm in less than a second, he cocks one back and fires. The orgasmic wave that comes over his eyes could 
            be nothing else but the pink Moderna octogons. a racemic mixture of isotopes for which they own the patent.`));
            lBuilder = $SM.setget('game.builder.level', 1);
            Engine.setTimeout(Room.unlockCity, Room._NEED_OCTOGONS_DELAY);
        }
        else if (lBuilder < 3 && $SM.get('game.stability.value') >= Room.StabilityEnum.Insecure.value) {
            var msg = "";
            switch (lBuilder) {
                case 1:
                    msg = _(`the stranger shivers, and mumbles quietly. their words are unintelligible. 
                    an s-deck in their pocket chimes with alert every few seconds: \"warning: 
                    battery at 5%. disconnection from net violates terms of service and may affect your credit. 
                    our policy has been updated.\" `);
                    break;
                case 2:
                    msg = _(`the stranger crawls to an outlet plug and ports in his s-deck in the fetal position. 
                    upon powering on with a familiar start up sound, the device begins to send alerts 
                    with such regularity that as the stranger begins snoring where he lie on the ground, 
                    it's a relief to hear else but the frequent jingles from a proprietary deck.`);
                    break;
            }

graceful trout Jun 13, 2021, 3:49 PM

#

low chasm but my friends would freak out at me

no one needs vallorant

quick scroll Jun 13, 2021, 4:04 PM

#

hey guys, anyone here interested in collaborating on an open source project using Next.js, TS and GQL? It's a really cool project and would be amazing if you could dm me if you're interested :)

clear plume Jun 13, 2021, 4:41 PM

#

graceful trout no one **needs** vallorant

I do ok leave me alone

lavish talon Jun 13, 2021, 4:44 PM

#

Aint valorant a rootkit?

vapid nymph Jun 13, 2021, 4:45 PM

#

Lol @frozen crane #changelog

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:00 PM

#

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>

int main(void)
{
   char s[200];
   scanf("%s", s);
   char *t = "Hello World";
   if (strcmp(s, t) == 0)
   {
       printf("OK");
   }
   else
   {
       printf("Wrong Answer");
   }
}```

#

idk why but when i input Hello World, it shows the output Wrong Answer

#

did i do sth wrong somewhere

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:01 PM

#

see what is answer? print strcmp

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:02 PM

#

rough sapphire see what is answer? print strcmp

what do u mean?

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:02 PM

#

print the difference. strcmp(s, t)

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:04 PM

#

rough sapphire print the difference. strcmp(s, t)

it gets -1

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:04 PM

#

okay if im not mistaken a string ends with that character

#

add that in Hello World

#

hold on

#

\0

#

"Hello World\0"

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:06 PM

#

rough sapphire "Hello World\0"

still doesnt work

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:08 PM

#

rough sapphire "Hello World\0"

i dont think we need to include \0 cuz for another eg. i can jus compare two strings and it works well

#

int main(void)
{
    char *names[] = {"Bill", "Charlie", "Fred", "George", "Ginny", "Percy", "Ron"};

    for (int i = 0; i < 7; i++)
    {
        if (strcmp(names[i], "Ron") == 0)
        {
            printf("Found\n");
            return 0;
        }
    }
    printf("Not found\n");
    return 1;
}```

#

this works

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:08 PM

#

near bolt ```c #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include <string.h> int main(void) ...

but idk why this keeps giving wrong ans

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:09 PM

#

i'll need to think, im currently kinda stuck in my own shit, gimmi some time to get back to you.

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:09 PM

#

ah ok no rush thanks

inland wolf Jun 13, 2021, 5:09 PM

#

good day

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what seems to be the issue

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:10 PM

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#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>

int main(void)
{
   char s[200];
   scanf("%s", s);
   char *t = "Hello World";
   if (strcmp(s, t) == 0)
   {
       printf("OK");
   }
   else
   {
       printf("Wrong Answer");
   }
}

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for this

inland wolf Jun 13, 2021, 5:10 PM

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yes

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:10 PM

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when i input Hello World

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it shd give out OK

inland wolf Jun 13, 2021, 5:10 PM

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yes

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:10 PM

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but the output was wrong ans

inland wolf Jun 13, 2021, 5:10 PM

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try making char *t = "Hello World\n"; instead

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:11 PM

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hm it still prints wrong ans

inland wolf Jun 13, 2021, 5:12 PM

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hmm

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OHH

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can u send me a screwenshot of ur prgramming runnig

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@near bolt

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:16 PM

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when i put \n it's the same output

inland wolf Jun 13, 2021, 5:17 PM

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can u print out what scanf read

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:18 PM

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inland wolf can u print out what scanf read

omg what it prints out Hello

inland wolf Jun 13, 2021, 5:19 PM

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yea

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so

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thats how scanf works

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scanf only consumes non-whitespace characters

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:20 PM

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ohh i see

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i think i can use a loop

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to get 2 words

inland wolf Jun 13, 2021, 5:21 PM

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yes

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if u were running this program locally

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u wouldve already recognied the issue

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:22 PM

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or may be you can make a while loop and getc thingy

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read till null char

near bolt Jun 13, 2021, 5:23 PM

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oh yeah

inland wolf Jun 13, 2021, 5:23 PM

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yes

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:29 PM

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I wonder what game can I write an AI for

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I want some game I play so that I can measure its performance

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chess would be awesome - it is very well researched, would be implementing something like alpha-beta pruning...

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problem is, I don't play chess 😔

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:30 PM

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alpha beta pruning would be kinda....

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bud do you imagine how much nodes

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i made alpha beta prunning on ttt

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but chess. well environment can be made in a while but dude, alpha beta pruning.

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imagine the no of nodes only on first move

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:31 PM

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uhh, it's used for chess anyway though, I'm pretty sure

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:32 PM

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it is?

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is alpha go built on alpha beta pruning?

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:32 PM

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the Wiki article for A/B uses chess as an example, and also I think I saw in the description of some chess AI (Deep Blue, I think?) that it uses it

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Deep Blue used custom VLSI chips to execute the alpha-beta search algorithm in parallel,[12] an example of GOFAI (Good Old-Fashioned Artificial Intelligence).
yup

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:33 PM

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wow

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if you do make it, ping me i'd love to see it.

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:33 PM

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that fills me with dread somewhat lol

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like I said though, no idea if it's a good idea for me to do it for chess

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I'd need to start with doing a chess engine...

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:34 PM

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did you do it for some small game?

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:34 PM

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nope. I've never implemented classic searches, that's why I want to

acoustic moss Jun 13, 2021, 5:34 PM

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isn't alpha beta pruning just bruteforcing but skipping a few routes
idk

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:34 PM

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hmm, some codingame tasks are probably about it

inland wolf Jun 13, 2021, 5:37 PM

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gritty zinc nope. I've never implemented classic searches, that's why I want to

same

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:37 PM

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acoustic moss isn't alpha beta pruning just bruteforcing but skipping a few routes idk

yes, basically mini max is brute forcing, and in alpha beta we prune a lot of edges(or some) so yeah basically just waht you said.

acoustic moss Jun 13, 2021, 5:38 PM

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someday™️ i'll try learning this stuff well

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:38 PM

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gritty zinc nope. I've never implemented classic searches, that's why I want to

they're fun, thats what i did last year. ~~and writing reports of them in latex are boring~~

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thats why i kinda like AI more than the underlined ML

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:38 PM

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lol

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I did implement a genetic algorithm

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:39 PM

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which one?

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try best first and A* too btw, heuristics are fun.

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:40 PM

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https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/mars-lander
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rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:40 PM

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oh yeah i think you shared video no?

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:41 PM

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yup

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#ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval message
there

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:41 PM

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yeah i've seen it, i was confused how all this UI

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:41 PM

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that's a video of the site's UI

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:41 PM

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which algo btw?

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:42 PM

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not sure what you mean by that

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:42 PM

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which algorithm?

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:42 PM

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are there, like, distinguished algorithms among "genetic algorithms"?

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it's just, like... generating some totally random chromosomes (each gene encoding an action), evaluating them, then crossing them over and mutating them for many generations

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:43 PM

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oh, i never had this algo

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ima check this thanks.

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:43 PM

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what algorithms do you think of when someone says "genetic algorithms"?

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like, I wasn't even aware there are any specific ones

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:44 PM

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i thought you meant generic algos like bfs, dfs, best first, A* and some more

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like these are all with what i started AI

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:44 PM

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ah, genetic, not generic 😅

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:44 PM

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yeah thats why i was confused

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:45 PM

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basically genetic algorithms are a fancy way of local search, like simulated annealing and beam search

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:46 PM

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ah i do know stimulated annealing

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oh yes small probability

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like annealing i see

acoustic moss Jun 13, 2021, 5:46 PM

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would you say that implementing a simple neural network is a good starting project for someone with no experience of ai/ml

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:47 PM

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acoustic moss would you say that implementing a simple neural network is a good starting proje...

nope. its baddest.

acoustic moss Jun 13, 2021, 5:47 PM

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oh rip

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:47 PM

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acoustic moss would you say that implementing a simple neural network is a good starting proje...

NN are black box, you want to first know things.

acoustic moss Jun 13, 2021, 5:47 PM

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aight then

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:47 PM

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you can get result with libraries easily(using NN and CNN) but not knowledge

acoustic moss Jun 13, 2021, 5:47 PM

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what would you suggest as a first project 🤔

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:48 PM

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i can tell you what my sir did to us.
make environment first for small problem, then make agents like bfs and dfs with backpropagation.

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again, im no export, you better ask in #data-science-and-ml for better(and reliable) answers.

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(making environment and agent separate helps a lot) you don't need to make agents again and again for new problem.

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:50 PM

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in genetic algorithms:

You have a pool of solutions, not one. I do from 100 to a few thousand
Instead of just mutating solutions, you also cross them over (apply some binary function that takes two solutions and produces one or two or several "children")
After generating the children on each step, you select the next generation from the previous one and the children. This is usually done in a mixed elitism-and-random fashion - say, take the top 20% solutions and also 30% of the other ones randomly. Or always take the children. Or some other way.

so this is a very broad category, broad enough that technically you could consider similated annealing and gradient descent to belong to it - they are just weird variants where the population size is 1, there's no crossover, and the mutation and selection function are very specific

acoustic moss Jun 13, 2021, 5:50 PM

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rough sapphire i can tell you what my sir did to us. make environment first for small problem, ...

will keep in mind

inland wolf Jun 13, 2021, 5:50 PM

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same

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:51 PM

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(this is skipping a few steps, such that the selection of parents of the next generation is also an arbitrary function)

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(I have done totally random, weighted by evaluation score, and best-2-of-random-4)

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:51 PM

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i see, so can we not pass a function to check solN? thats what i did in some algos.

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because there can be a LOT OF possible solN strings

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:52 PM

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what do you mean?

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:52 PM

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assume possible SOLNs for chess

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You have a pool of solutions, not one. I do from 100 to a few thousand => this

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instead of checking if we reached from a pool of solNs can we not just pass a function which just tells us if that is a solN? it seems more efficient to me.

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because as we increase space, the no of solutions can increase exponentially or may be follow even H.

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:54 PM

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by a pool of solutions, I mean, like, a pool of different actions/action sequences/whatever each chromosome is

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:55 PM

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oh so possible next actions.?

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:55 PM

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like, in my lander, each chromosome is an action sequence of a fixed length

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(long enough to predict the entire path to the landing)

rough sapphire Jun 13, 2021, 5:55 PM

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ah i see.

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alright so we define them and do cross over and then mutate over probabilities

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similar to annealing.

gritty zinc Jun 13, 2021, 5:58 PM

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this shows, for each step of the flight, what the population was at the end of that step

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note that far more than one generation passes between each flight timestep

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each path is colored from red to yellow according to utility, and valid landing paths are green

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in this case, it was able to plan a landing on the first frame