#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 567

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 3:11 PM

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I see

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:01 PM

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@rough sapphire Sorry for pinging you in off-topic, but this isn't only Python.

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With Node.js, JS has become much more powerful, and can do many things that Python can do as well

prime aspen Jun 3, 2021, 4:02 PM

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But can it do strongly-typed

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:02 PM

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prime aspen But can it do strongly-typed

No, but that's why TypeScript exists

prime aspen Jun 3, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Genuine question: How close is TS' syntax to JS?

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:03 PM

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interesting... I knew you could do a lot with JS but I didn't think it would come close to a general purpose pl, I know they are for different purposes but still... interesting

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:04 PM

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prime aspen Genuine question: How close is TS' syntax to JS?

It's the same as JS with typings

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The syntax of the typings is pretty similar to type hints in Python

full needle Jun 3, 2021, 4:05 PM

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rough sapphire interesting... I knew you could do a lot with JS but I didn't think it would com...

are you using the discord desktop client? yeah thats entirely js

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:05 PM

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rough sapphire interesting... I knew you could do a lot with JS but I didn't think it would com...

It used to be only for frontend, but node.js is a runtime that allows you to do things on servers

full needle Jun 3, 2021, 4:05 PM

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~~ ~~

brazen ingot Jun 3, 2021, 4:05 PM

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pepesaber

full needle Jun 3, 2021, 4:06 PM

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wow dont just silently edit now my line looks out of place 😦

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:06 PM

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It was an accident and I can't spell 😔

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:06 PM

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full needle wow dont just silently edit now my line looks out of place 😦

Yes, very nice line you got there

full needle Jun 3, 2021, 4:06 PM

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lol

tardy rain Jun 3, 2021, 4:06 PM

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dawn hows that website going

brazen ingot Jun 3, 2021, 4:06 PM

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glorious helpers lol

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:07 PM

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tardy rain dawn hows that website going

I sorta set it to the side for a little since I'm messing with serving sites on Cloudflare workers

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But I'm still working on it

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:07 PM

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full needle are you using the discord desktop client? yeah thats entirely js

yes I am, impressive @_@

brazen ingot Jun 3, 2021, 4:07 PM

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not even loading https://staging.dawnofmidnight.tech/ lol

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:07 PM

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brazen ingot not even loading https://staging.dawnofmidnight.tech/ lol

I changed where it was deployed and screwed some stuff up

brazen ingot Jun 3, 2021, 4:07 PM

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oh i see

tardy rain Jun 3, 2021, 4:07 PM

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make it public, PRs welcome

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:08 PM

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https://embed.dawnofmidnight.tech is what I'm messing with now. It's very good

Embed Builder

An embed builder for Discord

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:08 PM

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tardy rain make it public, PRs welcome

Soon™️

full needle Jun 3, 2021, 4:08 PM

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wraith hound https://embed.dawnofmidnight.tech is what I'm messing with now. It's *very* good

truely a site worthy of praise

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:08 PM

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wraith hound It used to be only for frontend, but node.js is a runtime that allows you to do ...

yeah I still had that frontend only vision towards it I think, good to know

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:08 PM

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wraith hound https://embed.dawnofmidnight.tech is what I'm messing with now. It's *very* good

Oh wait. The embed has color now. Yay

full needle Jun 3, 2021, 4:10 PM

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https://embed.dawnofmidnight.tech/red

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:10 PM

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so... even front end not being my primary goal node.js would be a must to learn as well? pithink

I plan to go the python-django path at first

@wraith hound

full needle Jun 3, 2021, 4:10 PM

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its broken

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:10 PM

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full needle https://embed.dawnofmidnight.tech/red

Indeed it is

full needle Jun 3, 2021, 4:10 PM

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i wanted a red embed

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~~im sure its beautiful compared to what bib writes lemon_pensive ~~

tardy rain Jun 3, 2021, 4:11 PM

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how bad can it be, its just a div and a p tag

fallow warren Jun 3, 2021, 4:11 PM

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😔

brazen ingot Jun 3, 2021, 4:11 PM

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full needle ~~im sure its beautiful compared to what bib writes <:lemon_pensive:754441880246...

lol

tardy rain Jun 3, 2021, 4:11 PM

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is this vuejs

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Ya

tardy rain Jun 3, 2021, 4:12 PM

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uh

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:12 PM

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I was messing with it

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.github repo dawnofmidnight/embed-builder

median domeBOT Jun 3, 2021, 4:12 PM

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dawnofmidnight

embed-builder

An embed builder for Discord

full needle Jun 3, 2021, 4:13 PM

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i see the issue, initial commit on the 4th commit 😔

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Oh

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I commited more than once locally ig

tardy rain Jun 3, 2021, 4:15 PM

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i tried vuejs but maybe im too dumb to figure it out

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gonna stick with react

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:15 PM

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tardy rain i tried vuejs but maybe im too dumb to figure it out

It's a bit complicated

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React is nice

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:24 PM

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vue is good. i like vue more.

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especially vue2 is so structured

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:24 PM

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I like that Vue is more like HTML and JS separately, rather than a messy merge of the two

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:24 PM

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exactly!!

nocturne fox Jun 3, 2021, 4:24 PM

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"we're-gonna-need-a-big.."

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my pc wants my brain to go places

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:25 PM

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rough sapphire especially vue2 is so structured

I've never tried it, what are the differences from vue 3?

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:25 PM

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wraith hound I've never tried it, what are the differences from vue 3?

I haven't either but it can be a mess

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brb in 4 min

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so you know vue2 was so so good at its structure
for example

<html>
</html>
js{
  data(){
  },
  lifecycleMethods: {
  },
  methods: {
  },
  watchers: {
  }
}
<css />

in vue 3 they kinda did something like hooks

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so you know it can be made like sphaghetti like people do in react.

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:33 PM

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Vue 3 format is nice imo

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:34 PM

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i mean if you think about it, people can be so dumb while doing things in react(and its understandable as they don't realize its a wrong way.

I've seen people creating methods in render class.

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:34 PM

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But I've never seen the Vue 2 one

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:34 PM

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you haven't seen vue2 one? hold lemme check if i have a sandbox

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:35 PM

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I just started to mess with Vue one or two days ago

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But it's really nice

tardy rain Jun 3, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Got any decent tutorials besudes their docs?

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I can use the mdn one, right?

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:36 PM

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https://codesandbox.io/s/j93z7yl9w?file=/src/components/SmallComp.vue

CodeSandbox

Vue Template - CodeSandbox

Vue Template by OculusMode using vue

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check this @wraith hound

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:36 PM

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I've just been using the docs

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:36 PM

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its an old one and small one but you'll get it.

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:36 PM

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rough sapphire https://codesandbox.io/s/j93z7yl9w?file=/src/components/SmallComp.vue

That looks pretty similar to Vue 3

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:36 PM

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yeah i need to see if they made big changes, their proposal syntax had a big conversation over these things.

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because i think they planned to remove this json like structure, like putting methods at one place and watchers at one and all.

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:37 PM

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They may have

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I haven't messed with it too much

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:38 PM

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yeah thats what makes me dislike it a bit, because if you have this structure, your things are organized by their type,
and their point of view on that time was,

if you know how to not to mess up, you won't.

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and well i had hella reasons to dislike react at that time.
the this.state tail everywhere, the make a new object thing(vue handles it gracefully, we can do .push() if we like)

and well vue doesn't cry over this.state and this.setState
its just
this.something.push('yay')
or
this.somethingElse = 'naye'

Altho after hooks things have changed for react, no more this.state.

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:45 PM

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Ooh, nice

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:46 PM

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rough sapphire so... even front end not being my primary goal node.js would be a must to learn ...

@wraith hound pithink

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 4:48 PM

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rough sapphire so... even front end not being my primary goal node.js would be a must to learn ...

If you're using Django, then you don't need node

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:48 PM

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yeah but if you are using js in front end, using node can be beneficial in one way, you play with js more so you get comfy fastly.

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:49 PM

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wraith hound If you're using Django, then you don't *need* node

hmmm, nice, good to know. Thx 🙂

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:54 PM

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rough sapphire yeah but if you are using js in front end, using node can be beneficial in one w...

cool! first I want to get comfortable with python then I'll dive into django/html/css/js

sly sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Here is a random joke:
Q: Why does Joe where glasses?
A: So he can c#!

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 4:58 PM

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i dunno if i should ping joe for this 😂

vapid nymph Jun 3, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Hey does anyone like vlc

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 5:58 PM

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vlc media player? Yeah, it's nice

vapid nymph Jun 3, 2021, 6:04 PM

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What about 200 vlc

vapid nymph Jun 3, 2021, 6:05 PM

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wraith hound vlc media player? Yeah, it's nice

I have nearly 200 open vlc

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Over 200

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233

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250

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 6:08 PM

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vapid nymph I have nearly 200 open vlc

Uhhhh, why

vapid nymph Jun 3, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Keyboard shortcut and script malfunction

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 6:09 PM

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oof

vapid nymph Jun 3, 2021, 6:09 PM

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Just killed all of them

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@wraith hound https://paste.pythondiscord.com/abiriyovuk.sql

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 6:10 PM

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oof

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Lol anyone wanna see my dog?

dull gazelle Jun 3, 2021, 7:33 PM

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I am never going to say no to that

fallow warren Jun 3, 2021, 7:53 PM

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Where dog?

winter terrace Jun 3, 2021, 8:27 PM

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literally what

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and it's only if i try to run it in vscode

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works in regular terminal

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 8:40 PM

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Are you inside a venv or something?

winter terrace Jun 3, 2021, 8:40 PM

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idk

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maybe vscode makes a venv automatically

wraith hound Jun 3, 2021, 8:41 PM

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I don't think it does

winter terrace Jun 3, 2021, 8:42 PM

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oh hold on

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vscode is using the /usr/bin/python3 to run the files

full needle Jun 3, 2021, 9:56 PM

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rough sapphire Lol anyone wanna see my dog?

not posting?

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wtf

latent scaffold Jun 3, 2021, 9:57 PM

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banned

rough sapphire Jun 3, 2021, 10:06 PM

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full needle not posting?

oops

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here

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full needle Jun 3, 2021, 10:07 PM

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cute dog

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👍

dull gazelle Jun 3, 2021, 10:12 PM

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that is a very good dog

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very strong

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I love

ebon plinth Jun 3, 2021, 10:36 PM

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Bruh

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I was just talking yesterday about not having motivation to work on my personal site

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and now today I've made half-satisfatory progress 🤦

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still going

lost vortex Jun 3, 2021, 10:47 PM

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i kind of just of start a project, work on it half way through and get bored of it

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i have like 10-15 unfinished projects XD

dark pike Jun 3, 2021, 11:30 PM

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hi

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so

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anyone here?

signal zodiac Jun 4, 2021, 1:10 AM

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but seriously when's python 4

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 1:10 AM

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yes

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 1:10 AM

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signal zodiac but seriously when's python 4

it's on sunuday 7

gleaming thicket Jun 4, 2021, 1:13 AM

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latent scaffold it's on sunuday 7

seriously?

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 1:13 AM

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gleaming thicket seriously?

#ot1-perplexing-regexing #ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval
(so no, not seriously)

gleaming thicket Jun 4, 2021, 1:13 AM

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oh ok lol

rugged echo Jun 4, 2021, 1:29 AM

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question: why is this a weird unicode question mark and why is there a trailing whitespace-

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 1:30 AM

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rugged echo question: why is this a weird unicode question mark and why is there a trailing ...

What unicode question mark

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oh. that's not trailing whitespace. it's just a thick question mark

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？

rugged echo Jun 4, 2021, 1:30 AM

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latent scaffold What unicode question mark

? vs the weird question mark

rugged echo Jun 4, 2021, 1:31 AM

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latent scaffold oh. that's not trailing whitespace. it's just a thick question mark

ah lmao

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 1:31 AM

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it's just really thicc

rugged echo Jun 4, 2021, 1:31 AM

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thicccccccccque

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 1:31 AM

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yeth

mint void Jun 4, 2021, 1:34 AM

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when's python 4?

tardy rain Jun 4, 2021, 1:36 AM

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Nevwr

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 1:40 AM

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mint void when's python 4?

sunuday 7

tribal knot Jun 4, 2021, 2:24 AM

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Lol I love the name of this channel

deep nexus Jun 4, 2021, 2:24 AM

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when python 10

gilded prawn Jun 4, 2021, 2:24 AM

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it needs to be above ot0 lol

sinful mantle Jun 4, 2021, 2:24 AM

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@deep nexus so the thing is, thet article you linked, its main goal is transparency

deep nexus Jun 4, 2021, 2:24 AM

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yeah and that's great but

gilded prawn Jun 4, 2021, 2:25 AM

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that article doesnt actually say anywhere that people should be deplatformed, just that more transparency is needed

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which makes it a very poor candidate for supporting that mozilla wants to censor people

sinful mantle Jun 4, 2021, 2:26 AM

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especially transparency about recommendation algorithms

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Changing these dangerous dynamics requires more than just the temporary silencing or permanent removal of bad actors from social media platforms.

Additional precise and specific actions must also be taken:

Reveal who is paying for advertisements, how much they are paying and who is being targeted.

Commit to meaningful transparency of platform algorithms so we know how and what content is being amplified, to whom, and the associated impact.

Turn on by default the tools to amplify factual voices over disinformation.

Work with independent researchers to facilitate in-depth studies of the platforms’ impact on people and our societies, and what we can do to improve things.

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this is the main goal of th earticle

deep nexus Jun 4, 2021, 2:27 AM

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"Changing these dangerous dynamics requires more than just the temporary silencing or permanent removal of bad actors from social media platforms." I'm bad at language for some reason but this says to me to add some form of censorship

gilded prawn Jun 4, 2021, 2:27 AM

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as far as i can tell all the post really says is to give more information about who is doing what

gilded prawn Jun 4, 2021, 2:27 AM

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deep nexus "Changing these dangerous dynamics requires more than just the temporary silenci...

could be interpreted like that yeah, but only if you dont read the next like 5 lines

sinful mantle Jun 4, 2021, 2:27 AM

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deep nexus "Changing these dangerous dynamics requires more than just the temporary silenci...

it says that censorship is not working, and proposes transparency as a alternative

gilded prawn Jun 4, 2021, 2:27 AM

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it was said in context so it needs to be interpreted in context

sinful mantle Jun 4, 2021, 2:28 AM

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deep nexus "Changing these dangerous dynamics requires more than just the temporary silenci...

also, no need to guess since they literally clarify what they want next sentence

deep nexus Jun 4, 2021, 2:28 AM

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yes but

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"Turn on by default the tools to amplify factual voices over disinformation."

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this is up to individual opinion

sinful mantle Jun 4, 2021, 2:29 AM

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linking to facebooks tool that amplifies authoritative sources

gilded prawn Jun 4, 2021, 2:30 AM

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if we're gonna take practical common examples that are used and seen in the wild, im sure most people would see that as promoting factual content and labelling misinformation, as opposed to deplatforming/censoring, since that's what youtube and twitter - as large examples - try to do currently

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they dont always do an amazing job, but generally they tend to label a tweet/video as containing information subject to often being misleading, and link sources to find facts about it

sinful mantle Jun 4, 2021, 2:31 AM

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promoting some sources that are judged to be better in some way is far FAR removed from censorship, its literally the goal of a search engine

deep nexus Jun 4, 2021, 2:33 AM

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but this is manipulation of the promotion of information, we condemn this for search engines like google

gilded prawn Jun 4, 2021, 2:33 AM

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do we?

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im not sure anyone really complains that google shows researched and factual information over the alternative

sinful mantle Jun 4, 2021, 2:34 AM

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deep nexus but this is manipulation of the promotion of information, we condemn this for se...

your original claim was censorship. lets not forget that.

tardy rain Jun 4, 2021, 2:34 AM

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gilded prawn im not sure anyone really complains that google shows researched and factual inf...

Doubt thats what happens

deep nexus Jun 4, 2021, 2:34 AM

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@sinful mantle sure

sinful mantle Jun 4, 2021, 2:34 AM

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is the promotion of information censorship?

tardy rain Jun 4, 2021, 2:34 AM

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ie w3s spamming my results over anything substantial

deep nexus Jun 4, 2021, 2:34 AM

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random thought

gilded prawn Jun 4, 2021, 2:35 AM

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you can check for yourself, go search for something about vaccines on google and you'll see factual information before antivax propaganda

deep nexus Jun 4, 2021, 2:35 AM

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google promotion of information

sinful mantle Jun 4, 2021, 2:35 AM

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tardy rain ie w3s spamming my results over anything substantial

w3s is not something that really matters in the scope of things we are talking about

deep nexus Jun 4, 2021, 2:35 AM

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promotion of pro vax over anti vax is good

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promotion of info saying global warming is a problem over it being non existant is good

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but what happens when google uses it for it's own benefit

gilded prawn Jun 4, 2021, 2:36 AM

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deep nexus promotion of info saying global warming is a problem over it being non existant ...

it doesnt do that though...?

sinful mantle Jun 4, 2021, 2:36 AM

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deep nexus promotion of info saying global warming is a problem over it being non existant ...

could you rephrase that please, im sure some odd phrasing led to me misunderstanding

deep nexus Jun 4, 2021, 2:36 AM

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yeah ok

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one moment

gilded prawn Jun 4, 2021, 2:36 AM

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it's in google's best interest not to mess with its engine and results, else people will just leave for services like duckduckgo/bing/whatever alternative

deep nexus Jun 4, 2021, 2:37 AM

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is that better phrasing?

sinful mantle Jun 4, 2021, 2:37 AM

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yep

tardy rain Jun 4, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Its partly related, the way google ranks results isnt based on the validity of their content as much as how many links go in or out of the page

gilded prawn Jun 4, 2021, 2:39 AM

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google does a hell of a lot more than just backward references

tardy rain Jun 4, 2021, 2:39 AM

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But ofcourse valid content will have more connections, thats why you usually get articles and papers first

karmic gust Jun 4, 2021, 2:39 AM

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that... doesn't really hold

tardy rain Jun 4, 2021, 2:40 AM

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Yea i didnt say thats all they did but the example of w3s kinda shows that

gilded prawn Jun 4, 2021, 2:40 AM

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its also a world leader in machine learning, and you can bet a whole ton of magic box is shoved into google search, meaning just links dont do a huge amount on their own

sinful mantle Jun 4, 2021, 2:40 AM

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tardy rain Its partly related, the way google ranks results isnt based on the validity of t...

there definitely are topics that they change the recommendations for, mostly ones that can be dangerous if misinformed

vapid nymph Jun 4, 2021, 3:16 AM

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shit lol

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 3:16 AM

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yes

vapid nymph Jun 4, 2021, 3:24 AM

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latent scaffold yes

fixed

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deep nexus Jun 4, 2021, 3:27 AM

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good

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 3:28 AM

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:|

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 4:26 AM

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  do {
    int n = get_int("Positive integer:")
  }
  while (n<1);
  return n
}```

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i dont get why for a do while loop the condition in while is what you don't want to get

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:29 AM

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means? @near bolt

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 4:29 AM

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rough sapphire means? <@!702907583857688577>

here we r trying to get a positive integer

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but in the while loop it is

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:29 AM

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near bolt ```int get_positive_int(void) { do { int n = get_int("Positive integer:") ...

You would want to ask the user a number until they give a number more than one

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 4:29 AM

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n<1

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oh

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 4:29 AM

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You want do while because you want to ask regardless of condition first

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 4:30 AM

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oh right

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that makes sense

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:30 AM

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But yeah, it should be 0 or -1

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:30 AM

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latent scaffold You want do while because you want to ask regardless of condition first

precise words.

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Yeah, do while asks at least once

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 4:30 AM

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You could do while, and just initialize with n = 0 or something right before the loop

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:31 AM

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~~or inf for loop and condition inside~~
fuck me dead but its also possible

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 4:31 AM

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lol

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:32 AM

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for(;;){
  int n = get_int("Positive integer:")
  if(n>0)
    return n
}

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 4:33 AM

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Would there be a difference between for (;;) {} and while (true) {}

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 4:33 AM

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is it if you want to do a while loop instead

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you can but therell be more lines

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:33 AM

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latent scaffold Would there be a difference between `for (;;) {}` and `while (true) {}`

I don't think so

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i like for(;;) more it seems more sexy

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:33 AM

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rough sapphire I don't think so

Essentially, anyways

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 4:33 AM

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rough sapphire i like `for(;;)` more it seems more sexy

more confusing

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:(

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 4:33 AM

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lol

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:33 AM

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hey its not confusing!!!

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people don't know precise syntax and because of this they get to know it!

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 4:34 AM

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true

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thanks

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 4:36 AM

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I'd argue while (true) is more semantically explicit while for (;;) might be more programatically explicit

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:36 AM

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latent scaffold I'd argue `while (true)` is more semantically explicit while `for (;;)` might be...

can you explain that? went above my head

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 4:36 AM

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like... reading while (true) to us makes more sense

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and to us is more explicit

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but for (;;) is more specific to the computer

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:37 AM

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latent scaffold but `for (;;)` is more specific to the computer

more specific to the computer ??

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 4:37 AM

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There's more rules that you're just voiding

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basically

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:38 AM

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we're not avoiding them.

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they are optional and thats how we are treating them

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 4:38 AM

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which is what I meant

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:38 AM

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voiding yes.

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still for(;;) seems more sexy to me 😍

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 4:39 AM

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I'm sure that goes against some standard, though

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for(;;){} vs for (;;) {}

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:40 AM

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i'm not sure about that, i have not had much things with linting in java and c

vapid nymph Jun 4, 2021, 4:42 AM

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https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/image

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https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/

This Person Does Not Exist

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 4:42 AM

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?

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 5:10 AM

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for(;;) is just a flex

acoustic moss Jun 4, 2021, 5:12 AM

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can't imagine using it

latent scaffold Jun 4, 2021, 5:15 AM

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me neither

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not that I use for loops that have that syntax

acoustic moss Jun 4, 2021, 5:22 AM

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totally not from any of my repos

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 5:22 AM

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is thta ur chemical balancer thing

acoustic moss Jun 4, 2021, 5:22 AM

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ye

vapid nymph Jun 4, 2021, 5:45 AM

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@solid pollen

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Fuck where'd it go

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...

solid pollen Jun 4, 2021, 6:38 AM

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vapid nymph <@407110650217627658>

Yes?

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 6:42 AM

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yes.

bronze hornet Jun 4, 2021, 7:06 AM

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hi

dreamy stratus Jun 4, 2021, 8:49 AM

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is it true that java is no longer supported by google and i should learn kotlin instead?

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 8:54 AM

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for android dev, yes

dreamy stratus Jun 4, 2021, 8:54 AM

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i see

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 8:54 AM

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kotlin is preferred

dreamy stratus Jun 4, 2021, 8:54 AM

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for desktop apps, what language should i use? c#? js? python? java?

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 8:54 AM

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but again, as coolgamer mentioned, if you are thinking only in terms of android, then kotlin.

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 8:55 AM

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c# for native windows apps

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u can use js in web apps

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or electron

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 8:55 AM

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if you like js, people do you use electron

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 8:55 AM

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python also works but eh

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 8:55 AM

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vscode is built on electron

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 8:55 AM

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java has some gui but idk

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yes

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and discord

dreamy stratus Jun 4, 2021, 8:55 AM

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so js is like

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the best langauge

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 8:55 AM

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not necassarily

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 8:55 AM

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nah i wouldnt say that

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 8:55 AM

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same

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 8:55 AM

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people use Qt as well.

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 8:55 AM

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it has its weird shit

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yes

dreamy stratus Jun 4, 2021, 8:56 AM

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you think desktop apps would look nice with python?

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 8:56 AM

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python does have qt bindings

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but i havent tried it

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 8:56 AM

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no language is best, its about what you want. and where you want.

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that debate is childish.

dreamy stratus Jun 4, 2021, 8:57 AM

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yeah youre right

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i honestly dont know what langauge to use for desktop apps

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python would be the easy way since i alr know it

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but im not convinced whether it would look nice

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 8:57 AM

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u can try using c# + .net for windows apps

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or use xamarin

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 8:58 AM

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you can always give it a try and move on if needed.

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 8:58 AM

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yes

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 8:58 AM

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inland wolf or use xamarin

no xam has its own issue pools

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 8:58 AM

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i didnt like it but apparently people make apps with it

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 8:58 AM

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hello

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nicely put in 3 words

dreamy stratus Jun 4, 2021, 8:59 AM

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hm okay i'll give it a thought

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 8:59 AM

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and about opinion, any community will be a lil bit biased, unless they have used all.

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 9:00 AM

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yes

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i am biased towards flutter

dreamy stratus Jun 4, 2021, 9:00 AM

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flutter can make mobile, desktop and web apps?

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 9:00 AM

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yes

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 9:01 AM

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~~while I'm biased over js~~

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 9:01 AM

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yes

dreamy stratus Jun 4, 2021, 9:01 AM

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wait is it possible to create a machine learning model in python and a mobile app in flutter and combine them together

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 9:01 AM

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maybe

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im not sure how u would do that but

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probably possible

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 9:02 AM

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yeah one work around would be an api call

dreamy stratus Jun 4, 2021, 9:02 AM

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oh

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 9:02 AM

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you train model, you make api for data, you give prediction in return using model.

dreamy stratus Jun 4, 2021, 9:02 AM

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oh sick

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aight thanks

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 9:02 AM

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np

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 9:03 AM

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yes

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that would work

topaz aurora Jun 4, 2021, 9:37 AM

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I forgot this was an actual term

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Literally me though

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 9:45 AM

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python 4 dropping 04/2022

lost knoll Jun 4, 2021, 11:02 AM

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@scenic crag show pictures

scenic crag Jun 4, 2021, 11:03 AM

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lost knoll <@!107491213434687488> show pictures

Can I pm you? I need to finish up some other stuff before I can create something with it hahaha

lost knoll Jun 4, 2021, 11:03 AM

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sure

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:09 AM

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Sup

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Please talk

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I need to get 50 messages

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:10 AM

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you hyped for python 4?

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:10 AM

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If it has more syntax then no

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:10 AM

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lol

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its not actually gonna happen, not for a long while

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Yeah

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Python 4 can improve pythons speed

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Im hoping python will be faster

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Like Java

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:11 AM

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Guido Van Rossum said if it does happen it will be like the jump from python 1 to python 2 rather than like 2 to 3

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fr?

harsh tundra Jun 4, 2021, 11:11 AM

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rough sapphire I need to get 50 messages

voice?

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:12 AM

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harsh tundra voice?

Yeah lol I’m bored af

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:12 AM

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anyway, from numba import njit you can use the njit decorator to massively speed up python

harsh tundra Jun 4, 2021, 11:12 AM

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tight ocean fr?

!pypi numba

royal lakeBOT Jun 4, 2021, 11:12 AM

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numba v0.53.1

compiling Python code using LLVM

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:12 AM

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ahh the pypi command

harsh tundra Jun 4, 2021, 11:12 AM

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!d works for standard lib and only some most common libs in here

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:12 AM

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I know decent python but idk that much

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:13 AM

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then build some stuff, doesnt matter what just try to push yourself a little bit

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:13 AM

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Yeah

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Made some statistics calculator

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:13 AM

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if youre gonna do math/data science then numba is perfect for you

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:14 AM

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What does Numba do

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How?

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:15 AM

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from numba import njit

@njit
def foo():
  print(10**10**10)

foo() # takes a while because of compile time
foo() # foo is compile to machine code now, and is near instant

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:15 AM

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Cool

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How did u know bout this

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:16 AM

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it works really well with numpy and other scientific computing libraries

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theres a youtuber Jack of Some who did a vid a while back

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:17 AM

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U know that your are speaking in python discord server right?

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Ik

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BUT DONT DISS PYTHON

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My fav language

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wtf

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:17 AM

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python sucks tho

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:18 AM

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so what if your fav?

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It was a joke lol

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:18 AM

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i prefer javascript

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:18 AM

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I’m learning js now

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:18 AM

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i do python for web backend, django is pretty nice

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:18 AM

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You madman

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people out here are open no python owner is gonna kick you if you say one bad thing about py lol

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:18 AM

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P.H.P: Pretty Huge Pain

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:18 AM

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I was joking lmao

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:19 AM

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rough sapphire people out here are open no python owner is gonna kick you if you say one bad th...

zOmG mOdS hAlP

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👀

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 11:20 AM

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Bruh

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K bye

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 11:21 AM

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👋

full needle Jun 4, 2021, 11:27 AM

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python is bad and horrible. python 4 will save us. guido hodling us back by not releasing his beta 4

narrow wasp Jun 4, 2021, 11:27 AM

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im here

last mantle Jun 4, 2021, 11:27 AM

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Hello

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So yeah

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You can add functions in QML with the JavaScript syntax

narrow wasp Jun 4, 2021, 11:28 AM

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for now i have some fun things like:

last mantle Jun 4, 2021, 11:28 AM

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Or make the whole backend in python

narrow wasp Jun 4, 2021, 11:28 AM

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last mantle Jun 4, 2021, 11:28 AM

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Your choice

narrow wasp Jun 4, 2021, 11:28 AM

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last mantle Jun 4, 2021, 11:28 AM

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Nice

narrow wasp Jun 4, 2021, 11:29 AM

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last mantle Or make the whole backend in python

in that qml guides he show how to do that?

last mantle Jun 4, 2021, 11:29 AM

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Not directly

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But you will learn the language

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There are liek 100 episodes I guess

narrow wasp Jun 4, 2021, 11:29 AM

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thanks ❤️

last mantle Jun 4, 2021, 11:29 AM

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Its very in depth

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Np

narrow wasp Jun 4, 2021, 11:42 AM

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last mantle Np

the guide is mostly about c++ and qml

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it not gonna be problem for me?

acoustic moss Jun 4, 2021, 12:14 PM

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tight ocean ```py from numba import njit @njit def foo(): print(10**10**10) foo() # take...

10**10**10 might take more than a little while

tight ocean Jun 4, 2021, 12:16 PM

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on my laptop? about a week

royal lakeBOT Jun 4, 2021, 1:22 PM

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Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

solid violet Jun 4, 2021, 1:22 PM

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    print("this may take time, so be patient")
    a12 = random.randint(1, 99999)
    b134 = a12 * int(starting_number)
    c = a12 * b134
    d = a12 / 1000
    e = c * b134
    Fa = e * b134

    for i in range(1, 100):
        total100 = i + Fa

    randnum= random.randint(1, 999999)
    randnum2= random.randint(999999, 9999999)
    abcdef = 0
    while randnum <= randnum2:
        abcdef = randnum + total100


    
    print(abcdef)```

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computer explodes

rich moon Jun 4, 2021, 3:35 PM

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when py4

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gib py4

harsh tundra Jun 4, 2021, 3:42 PM

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rich moon when py4

install py2 and pypy in the same localisation. then you'll have py4 😛

vapid nymph Jun 4, 2021, 3:42 PM

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harsh tundra install py2 and pypy in the same localisation. then you'll have py4 😛

just need two py2

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or even one

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py^2

rich moon Jun 4, 2021, 3:50 PM

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harsh tundra install py2 and pypy in the same localisation. then you'll have py4 😛

yes 2+2 =4 logik

fallow warren Jun 4, 2021, 3:59 PM

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no it's 3.9

harsh tundra Jun 4, 2021, 3:59 PM

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vapid nymph just need two py2

That would be 2py2!
And py2pypy is py(2+1+1) = py4!

#

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Birdie got a snail. And second kitty came to see what it's all about.

acoustic moss Jun 4, 2021, 4:22 PM

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nice

harsh tundra Jun 4, 2021, 4:27 PM

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karmic gust Jun 4, 2021, 5:16 PM

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!paste @unkempt idol

royal lakeBOT Jun 4, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pydis.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the floppy disk icon in the top right, or by typing ctrl + S. After doing that, the URL should change. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

unkempt idol Jun 4, 2021, 5:17 PM

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TY !

sand inlet Jun 4, 2021, 5:31 PM

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goes against the wishes but not considered against the law as you still pay for the product
@rough sapphire did you read any of the rule after the first comma

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beecloseloaf

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5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may break laws, breach terms of services, or are malicious or inappropriate.

full needle Jun 4, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Nobody does they always just say 'but I'm not breaking the law!'

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Needs tos first

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 6:04 PM

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how do i create a program in c, where i can have the output

2x10
2x100
2x1000

can i use a loop for the 10, 100, 1000?

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#include <stdio.h>
int main(void)
{
    int x;
    for (int i = 0; i < 10; i++)
    {
        for (int j = 0; j < 10; j++)
        {
            x = 2*(power(10,j));
            printf("%i", x);
        }
    }
}

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line 9 doesnt work (it's illegal) but this gives some idea what i am trying to get

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:08 PM

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what is line 9?

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and aren't integers %d?

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 6:11 PM

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rough sapphire what is line 9?

like i wanted to create a loop where i can have

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10^1
10^2
10^3

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so i wanted to make a for loop for j

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from 0 to n

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then do 10^j

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that's not allowed right?

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:18 PM

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you seem to be trying to represent this in integers, whereas an easier solution would be string concat

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:19 PM

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near bolt ```c #include <stdio.h> int main(void) { int x; for (int i = 0; i < 10; ...

wait a minute

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is that C

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:19 PM

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like, each line just print "2x" and a 1 with some zeros

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:19 PM

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rough sapphire is that C

fairly sure, yeah

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:19 PM

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i only know C++ so that was super confusing to read

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i was like, "wait wait, what no"

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like

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you know when you are so sure its a pro lang

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and then u just cant understand why there are some sutle changes

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and then u realise it was C not C++

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:20 PM

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well, C++ started out as a strict superset of C

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 6:20 PM

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gritty zinc you seem to be trying to represent this in integers, whereas an easier solution ...

uh can u ignore my previous qn cuz what i was actually trying to solve is

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:20 PM

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so presumably it's similar even now

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:21 PM

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gritty zinc well, C++ started out as a strict superset of C

its C with classes boi 😎

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 6:21 PM

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    int first = (number % 10)/1;
    int second = (number % 100)/10;
    int third = (number % 1000)/100;
    int n = (number % 10^n)/10^(n-1);

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:21 PM

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altho syntax still a bit diff, otherwise cpp could just be a lib in C lmao

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 6:21 PM

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i wanted to create a loop to do this cuz n is an input

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:22 PM

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c looks very tempting to learn omfg lemon_cut

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lemon_cut

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this is the problem with me

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i see a good syntax

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and i feel like learning it

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F

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:23 PM

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good syntax
C
uhh

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:23 PM

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?

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just because C has a more lenghty syntax

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doesnt mean its bad

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im talking about the beauty

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of the syntax

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;/

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:25 PM

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almost all modern languages are based on C indirectly, so saying that C has a nice syntax seem very weird to me, because, like... all changes from C's syntax were made intentionally for some reason or another

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and in most cases, languages added to the syntax, rather than changing it. You can write code that looks very C-like in most languages, it's just not the best way in most cases

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:26 PM

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i see

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for me i jus prefer writing code in certain syntax

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for me its

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python
java
c
cpp
lua

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and i dont like VB or Rust syntax

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dont blame me for java okay my whole family uses java

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lemon_angrysad

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:27 PM

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near bolt ``` int first = (number % 10)/1; int second = (number % 100)/10; int...

I don't see why you need a loop for this. The fourth line is basically valid except you need to use (googles...) the pow function from math.h instead of ^

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:27 PM

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rough sapphire for me i jus prefer writing code in certain syntax

What syntax do you like in C specifically?

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:28 PM

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gritty zinc What syntax do you like in C specifically?

the
func (){
}

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i prefer it over cpp because

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its more original

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😌

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also i like using #include

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:28 PM

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how is it different from cpp though

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:28 PM

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its just so nice >///<

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:29 PM

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that's how function definitions look in most languages

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:29 PM

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gritty zinc that's how function definitions look in most languages

and then i like

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int array[] = {};

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very niceu

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:29 PM

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rough sapphire >python >java >c >cpp >lua

wait wait

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my order is messed up

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python below cpp

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my bad

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:30 PM

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//Rust
fn my_fun(){
}

//cpp
void my_fun(){
}

//Java
void myFun(){
}

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so, uhh...

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:30 PM

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...

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its just more original okay

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stop bully me

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 6:30 PM

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gritty zinc I don't see why you need a loop for this. The fourth line is basically valid exc...

cuz if i dont use a loop, then i would have to hard code int first, int second all the way to int n right?

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:31 PM

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near bolt cuz if i dont use a loop, then i would have to hard code `int first`, `int secon...

Why? You can even write a function roughly like

int digit_at(int x, int n){
    int mult = pow(10,n);
    return (x%(mult*10))/mult;
}

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if I understand correctly what you're doing

near bolt Jun 4, 2021, 6:33 PM

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oh yeah

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this was what i needed

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i didnt thot of this

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yeah

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i see thanks

acoustic moss Jun 4, 2021, 6:34 PM

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gritty zinc ```rust //Rust fn my_fun(){ } ``` ```cpp //cpp void my_fun(){ } ``` ```java //Ja...

where's the space between () and { 😠

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:34 PM

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acoustic moss where's the space between () and { 😠

why bruh

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:35 PM

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acoustic moss where's the space between () and { 😠

my IDE places it for me okay

rough sapphire Jun 4, 2021, 6:35 PM

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was i summoned?

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imagine switching to an ide for each of those 3 examples ;/

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wait u use an ide for every lang?

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damn

acoustic moss Jun 4, 2021, 6:36 PM

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gritty zinc my IDE places it for me okay

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/828628646252118038.png?v=1&size=40

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:37 PM

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fn digit_at(x:isize, n:isize) -> isize {
    let mult = 10.pow(n);
    x%(10*mult)/mult
}

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I probably like this signature syntax more

acoustic moss Jun 4, 2021, 6:38 PM

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unrelated but can I just point out how bad x.sin() looks

versed saffron Jun 4, 2021, 6:39 PM

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is that a rust thing?

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:40 PM

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I mean, you can instead use isize::pow(10,n) if you want 😛

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:42 PM

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acoustic moss unrelated but can I just point out how bad `x.sin()` looks

something you can't do in C, though, is let (sin, cos) = angle.sincos(); 😉

inland wolf Jun 4, 2021, 6:43 PM

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lol

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that is a good function ti know

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 6:44 PM

#

also something you can't do in C:

for (i, (a,b)) in As.iter().zip(Bs.iter()).enumerate() {
    //...
}

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and the compiler is generally smart enough for stuff like this to not incur performance penalties

shadow nova Jun 4, 2021, 7:05 PM

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while printing in terminal how do i get that cool typing affect, when it types in terminal

mint pewter Jun 4, 2021, 9:16 PM

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is ascii art allowed here?

woven idol Jun 4, 2021, 10:04 PM

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yes

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there are no rules against ascii art.

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 10:07 PM

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there are rules about random memes, though 😛

woven idol Jun 4, 2021, 10:10 PM

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Where? I am unaware of any rules about random memes.

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There are rules about off-topic discussion, as long as said meme is on topic, I don't see any rules against memes, or ascii art.

gritty zinc Jun 4, 2021, 10:17 PM

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https://pythondiscord.com/pages/guides/pydis-guides/off-topic-etiquette/

Don't post memes unless they're relevant to a conversation

There are better places to share memes; if you have a meme you think is worth sharing, try to find a relevant subreddit, like /r/ProgrammerHumor.

vapid nymph Jun 4, 2021, 11:34 PM

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@shell raptor

#

#

3.10 is gonna be nice

ancient wedge Jun 5, 2021, 12:27 AM

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There is no Joe, only Zuel.

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 12:41 AM

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Wut

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@formal roost why does it say pytot

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Or did?

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Aaaaaa

formal roost Jun 5, 2021, 12:57 AM

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vapid nymph <@335114057117859850> why does it say pytot

What?

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 12:57 AM

#

o

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 12:58 AM

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formal roost What?

your name was @Pytot

formal roost Jun 5, 2021, 12:58 AM

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You called me Pytot

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 12:58 AM

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oh-

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 12:59 AM

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formal roost You called me Pytot

o shit i remember lol

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;-;

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 1:53 AM

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@wraith hound lol

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ff dev is v90

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ff nightly is v 91

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ff stable is v89

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oh

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dev and beta are the exact same release cadence

rich moon Jun 5, 2021, 2:51 AM

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vapid nymph

whats the diff between this and a switch statement. like i dont think u can know what type the match is gonna be so how can u know u covered all the cases

solid elbow Jun 5, 2021, 2:55 AM

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rich moon whats the diff between this and a switch statement. like i dont think u can know...

It's only superficially like a switch statement. It's more like a regex than it is like a switch statement in other languages, except that where a regex matches a string against a pattern, a case statement matches an arbitrarily nested object against a pattern.

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 3:00 AM

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solid elbow It's only superficially like a switch statement. It's more like a regex than it ...

Yeah tbh I'm not sure why it's being added

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 3:00 AM

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because its useful

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if it can do pattern matching

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hypers

rich moon Jun 5, 2021, 3:05 AM

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so in that pic it works the same way as a switch

solid elbow Jun 5, 2021, 3:08 AM

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in that pic it achieves the same thing as a switch would, yes. It doesn't work the same way, though - it works in a pretty fundamentally different way

turbid mortar Jun 5, 2021, 3:09 AM

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CAN I GET A HOYAAA

solid elbow Jun 5, 2021, 3:20 AM

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solid elbow in that pic it achieves the same thing as a switch would, yes. It doesn't work t...

just like if re.match("abc$", x) does the same thing as if x == "abc", but in a very different way.

last mantle Jun 5, 2021, 3:27 AM

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turbid mortar CAN I GET A *HOYAAA*

no

turbid mortar Jun 5, 2021, 3:35 AM

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last mantle no

HOYAAAA

rich moon Jun 5, 2021, 3:50 AM

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wonder if there are any checks to make sure that u matched all possible cases

acoustic moss Jun 5, 2021, 3:52 AM

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no you just match the first one

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just like you wouldn't get into any elif if it matched an if

solid elbow Jun 5, 2021, 3:53 AM

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rich moon wonder if there are any checks to make sure that u matched all possible cases

There's case _: to match any arbitrary object.

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that's the wildcard case.

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 3:55 AM

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@solid elbow I installed 3.10 if you'd like me to try anything

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BOth for you, and/or for my own experiencd

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Lmk and I'll get on pc

solid elbow Jun 5, 2021, 3:56 AM

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I read the PEPs pretty thoroughly - I think I have a good handle on how everything works.

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though admittedly it's a lot to remember.

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 3:56 AM

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What other changes are there?

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 3:57 AM

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https://docs.python.org/3.10/whatsnew/3.10.html

solid elbow Jun 5, 2021, 3:57 AM

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there's some big changes to how syntax errors are reported.

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you'll often get better syntax errors if you forget a closing ) or something like that.

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Hm

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Guess I need to try thid

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 3:57 AM

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I had a quick scroll through the new errors and they looked quite good

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There's some nice changes in there

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Someone write some code they want to see errors for

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I'll run it

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limiting to about 20 lines

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 3:58 AM

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latent scaffold https://docs.python.org/3.10/whatsnew/3.10.html

This has examples

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 3:58 AM

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https://docs.python.org/3.10/whatsnew/3.10.html#syntaxerrors

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 4:00 AM

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yeet

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I'm excited for 3.11

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last mantle Jun 5, 2021, 4:01 AM

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ono

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 4:01 AM

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LOL

#

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that version number seems to be right

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nvm figured it out

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def square(number: int | float) -> int | float:
this is fucking nice

topaz aurora Jun 5, 2021, 4:03 AM

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afaik Python 3.11 would start focusing on performance

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 4:03 AM

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yes

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!pep 604

royal lakeBOT Jun 5, 2021, 4:03 AM

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**PEP 604 - Allow writing union types as ``X | Y``**

Link

Status

Accepted

Python-Version

3.10

Created

28-Aug-2019

Type

Standards Track

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 4:04 AM

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copy paste pypy ezez

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 4:04 AM

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that is niiice

topaz aurora Jun 5, 2021, 4:04 AM

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https://github.com/faster-cpython/ideas/blob/main/FasterCPythonDark.pdf

GitHub

faster-cpython/ideas

Contribute to faster-cpython/ideas development by creating an account on GitHub.

last mantle Jun 5, 2021, 4:06 AM

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vapid nymph `def square(number: int | float) -> int | float:` this is fucking nice

ay no more Union?

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or Optional?

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 4:07 AM

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not needed, but will still exist i presume

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Starting in this release, there will be a concerted effort to begin cleaning up old import semantics that were kept for Python 2.7 compatibility
What does this mean?

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py3 was not compatible with py2

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?

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but there was support somehow?

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huh

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what is distutils?

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The entire distutils namespace is deprecated, to be removed in Python 3.12. Refer to the module changes section for more information.

solid elbow Jun 5, 2021, 4:09 AM

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distutils is used for building C extension modules. setuptools is preferred instead these days.

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 4:14 AM

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wtf

vapid nymph Jun 5, 2021, 4:14 AM

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solid elbow `distutils` is used for building C extension modules. `setuptools` is preferred ...

ah, okay

rich moon Jun 5, 2021, 4:35 AM

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solid elbow There's `case _:` to match any arbitrary object.

like in the example above if u just matched 400 and 404 and u passed in 500. does that just fall though or is that an error

solid elbow Jun 5, 2021, 4:41 AM

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it would just fall through.

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there's no reasonable way to require it to be exhaustive, since you can pass in any object.

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it would fall through if you passed 500, but also if you passed [] or {} or "hello"

rich moon Jun 5, 2021, 4:48 AM

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hmm i know with some compiled languages pattern matching allows for a static check

solid elbow Jun 5, 2021, 4:50 AM

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I know of some where switch does

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I don't see how pattern matching could - at least, not when you don't even know the type of object you're matching against in advance

rough sapphire Jun 5, 2021, 4:58 AM

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lmao

solid elbow Jun 5, 2021, 4:58 AM

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?

rough sapphire Jun 5, 2021, 5:29 AM

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uhh

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how is this related? xD

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 5:40 AM

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yes

acoustic moss Jun 5, 2021, 5:44 AM

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yes

rough sapphire Jun 5, 2021, 5:55 AM

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rough sapphire uhh

The related paper mentions XML

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Other than that, nothing really

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 7:39 AM

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what you know about rolling down in the deep

deep nexus Jun 5, 2021, 7:48 AM

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is it normal for schools to keep blacklisting your mac address

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 7:53 AM

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no

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 7:53 AM

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inland wolf what you know about rolling down in the deep

omg is that beyonce

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 7:54 AM

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yes

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 7:55 AM

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omg

last mantle Jun 5, 2021, 8:01 AM

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ok

tall stag Jun 5, 2021, 8:59 AM

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me in 4th grade: loves to read
school: you have to be reading books that are for 12th graders!!
me: ok
me: thinks all the books are boring and stops reading books as a whole
school: why u no read

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 9:02 AM

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hm

last mantle Jun 5, 2021, 9:05 AM

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read.

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 9:08 AM

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read ‼️

harsh tundra Jun 5, 2021, 9:53 AM

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I was reading a lot as a child. now I'm mainly reading webtoons...

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 9:54 AM

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I used to read heaps

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Then school went nope you no longer have time for that

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 9:55 AM

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i dont read much now

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:"

noble atlas Jun 5, 2021, 9:56 AM

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Yeah, especially horror and thriller theme, the picture is awesome

harsh tundra Jun 5, 2021, 10:08 AM

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tranquil orchid Then school went nope you no longer have time for that

I always read all the assigned books... until one in last year of middle school. Then I rarely finished any

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 10:09 AM

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I used to read every night

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 10:37 AM

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Normally I like reading, but I hate when schools give book assignments

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so I've kinda just grown to not like reading anymore

rough sapphire Jun 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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Have u read "I'm the grimreaper"?

harsh tundra Jun 5, 2021, 10:43 AM

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https://www.webtoons.com/en/supernatural/im-the-grim-reaper/list?title_no=1697

www.webtoons.com

I'm the Grim Reaper

On earth there are bad people, and then there are REALLY BAD people. If you’re one of the latter, you don’t just get sent to Hell, you get sent to Hell and get assigned a job collecting the souls of some of the worst people on Earth. Such is the career path of a young woman named Scarlet, who dies and is delivered down to the fiery underworld on...

rough sapphire Jun 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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It's available in webtoon so go and read it

rough sapphire Jun 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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harsh tundra https://www.webtoons.com/en/supernatural/im-the-grim-reaper/list?title_no=1697

Oh didn't notice that

harsh tundra Jun 5, 2021, 10:50 AM

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I read LOTS of stuff on LINE Webtoon (aka Webtoons.com), so I'm fast when it comes to grabbing links 😛

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:00 AM

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import coffee

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:01 AM

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goddam git is complex

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It is!

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:01 AM

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push your code up, pull your code down. commit before pushing

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nothing simpler

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if you need to do something more complex you just google the command paste it without understanding ez pz lemon_fingerguns_shades

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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that's true for smaller repos

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but for huge ones

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everything will be messed up

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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??????

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make a branch before making changes

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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I made

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and also made a pull request

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but I need to make another pull request

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without those changes

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:03 AM

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you go onto a new branch

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simple

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:03 AM

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but those changes (that you made ) are still with you

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:03 AM

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🙂

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no

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you made a new branch to work in

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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you misunderstand

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ig

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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lol?

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fork repo, branch, work in branch, pr, oh i need a new feature, new branch, work in new branch, pr, repeat

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simple as day

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:05 AM

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fork, branch, work in branch, pr, oh i need a new feature, oh dam those features that i made previously are there

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:05 AM

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bro

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you make a new branch

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:05 AM

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We needed to go to the previous commit and then make a new branch

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:05 AM

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and your old branches changes are not in the new branch

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i think i see what you did

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you worked in the master rather then making a branch

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:06 AM

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No

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read up the messages again

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:06 AM

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then when you make a new branch its based off master and your first prs changes arent there

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:06 AM

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you'll understand

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:06 AM

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tribal aurora fork, branch, work in branch, pr, oh i need a new feature, oh dam those features...

except they arent there

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because they arent in the master branch

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and the new branch you make is based on master

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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tribal aurora read up the messages again

read up my messages again

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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tribal aurora you'll understand

you'll understand

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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lol

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Oh now it makes sense

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I made a new branch when i made the changes

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(in the github)

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that's why

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It would be simpler if I did it without github

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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you want to make your changes in a branch

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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yea

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fork repo, branch, work in branch, pr, oh i need a new feature, Edit the files from github, make the changes into a new branch

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I think that's what I did

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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ah

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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github always confuse me

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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not sure what you did on github exactly but yeah you probably messed it up there

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every new branch is based on the master branch generally, and the master branch should at all times match the main repo you forked. so new branches are ez pz

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and that way you can quickly pull new master changes down into your own

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v

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https://happygitwithr.com/upstream-changes.html

Chapter 31 Get upstream changes for a fork | Happy Git and GitHub f...

Using Git and GitHub with R, Rstudio, and R Markdown

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this might help you recover

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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dam you're fast

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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complex but in the future shouldnt be needed ever if you keep the master even w/ the main repo

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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what's your wpm ?

#

@full needle

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:21 AM

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https://monkeytype.com

Monkeytype

A minimalistic, customisable typing website. Test yourself in various modes, track your progress and improve your typing speed.

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:23 AM

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hm

last mantle Jun 5, 2021, 11:24 AM

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nice graph bro

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:24 AM

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lul

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:24 AM

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uwu

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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no

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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dammm

last mantle Jun 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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but can you get a graph as good as vinam's

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121 is ok but graph is boring

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get gud

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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wat?

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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i can do 200 wpm in 2 seconds 😎

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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heh

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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ok

last mantle Jun 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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edgy crest heh

perfection

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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my hand kind of stops in the middle

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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my weakness is accuracy

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SAME

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my hands just feel like not typing

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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yeah

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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noobs

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lrn2type5heads

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you do it for your living

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

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nice, i told my hand to not stop

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finally hit hundred

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

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acceptable

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anything 3 digits and 95%+ is decent

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

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"decent"

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

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that consistency too! wow

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idk what consistency means in this context

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i was 98% accurate but 60% consistent hmm

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idgi

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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whats the average

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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the difference between the speed each second

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the lower the better

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straight line graph should have higher consistency

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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ooo sooo what ur saying is i had parts where i was 200 wpm and parts where i was like 100 wpm to average out to 121?

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i see yea i dropped to 80

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w-well it was a tough word!!

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i couldnt spell it right either 😦

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lol both my drops are when i couldnt understand and spell the word

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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Oh wait

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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Not bad

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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hm. I wonder if I should make an effort to properly learn to type when I get my laptop here in a few days

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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you're sending already

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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nicie jack

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121 gang

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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I peck (well, half-peck... modified pack) \😩

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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wait colemak-hd?

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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A keyboard layout

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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latent scaffold I peck (well, half-peck... modified pack) \😩

peck?

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

#

peck

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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birb

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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I type primarily with my index fingers

#

it's incredibly inefficient but I've been stuck in this bad habit for years and years

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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latent scaffold it's incredibly inefficient but I've been stuck in this bad habit for years and ...

same

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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yeah thats the standard non computer user way to code

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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Every time I want to learn how to properly type, I get incredibly bored and between "lessons" my habits show right back up

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

#

latent scaffold Every time I want to learn how to properly type, I get incredibly bored and betw...

get a typing game

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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I re-taught myself late last year

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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it makes it fun

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

#

Any recommendations?

#

Maybe I'll try something now

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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i mean i used mario teaches typing but its like 20 years old now

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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lol

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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it was really fun when i was a little kid

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

#

https://www.typingclub.com/ to learn

TypingClub

Free Touch Typing Software

acoustic moss Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

#

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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you basically played a full mario game but you moved by typing words correclty haha

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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Then monkeytype, keymash, typeracer etc to practice

acoustic moss Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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ohh i haven't solved a rubik's cube in weeks

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

#

tranquil orchid https://www.typingclub.com/ to learn

its gotta be games tho to keep ur attn

acoustic moss Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

#

lemme see

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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It has games

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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o nice

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

#

wait if i make a mistake while typing

#

and correct it

#

it doesnt really count the correction right

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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It does, but you still get penalised

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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it just adds to the time

#

so should i correct or just skip that word

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Just not as penalised

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

#

tranquil orchid https://www.typingclub.com/ to learn

I'm getting deja vu, I think you've shown me this before

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

#

hm

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

#

I wanted to try one night and I clicked the start button

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

#

https://youtu.be/r-LxHUgI2W0

YouTube

NintendoComplete

Mario Teaches Typing (1992) PC Playthrough - NintendoComplete

A "playthrough" of Interplay's 1992 PC edutainment title, Mario Teaches Typing.

If you have any desire to give this ago, do yourself a favor and change the times of each lesson in the menu. The default lengths and the typing prompts are specifically designed to give you carpal tunnel in about two seconds.

No cheats were used during the recordi...

▶ Play video

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

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I mean, when aiming for pure speed

#

Probably not worth correcting

#

But when practicing

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Correct

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

#

then this lady started talking and gave me a mini heart attack

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:33 AM

#

best game ever

#

thanks mario for 121 wpm

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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man my wpm is 100+ in the first 10 seconds

#

after that my hands just die

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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mario would fix that

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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and it falls down to 70

acoustic moss Jun 5, 2021, 11:34 AM

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acoustic moss ohh i haven't solved a rubik's cube in weeks

#

lesgo

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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omg is that the time

acoustic moss Jun 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

#

ye

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

#

oh yes it's the 25th hour of... today

acoustic moss Jun 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

#

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/835909267613417523.png?v=1&size=40

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

#

acoustic moss

oh i thought this was your wpm.... hahahaha

acoustic moss Jun 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

#

bruh

#

lol

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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bruh why your wpm only 20 haha

acoustic moss Jun 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

#

...

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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I was about to say like "me too"

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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noob

#

:D

acoustic moss Jun 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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😢

#

i'm averaging 80 wpm ok

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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psh u clearly shows a 25 😉

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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I think I'm a lil faster on my keyboard than on my laptop

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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ayo 93wpm 95% acc in 30 seconds is my high score??

#

dang

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:36 AM

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u gotta pump those numbers up so you can join 3 digit gang

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

#

i have realised that i type mainly with my index and middle finger

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

#

only 7 more wpm needed !

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

#

which is an interesting case

#

usually its index only or all four fingers

#

but i only use these two

#

my little finger is never used

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

#

I used to use all fingers on my left hand and one finger on my right hand when using qwerty

#

It was a mess

acoustic moss Jun 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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21.84s

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

#

inland wolf but i only use these two

you use middle finger for q?

#

thats so uncomfy

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

#

yes

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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i can barely even do that while keeping index on f

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

#

tranquil orchid I used to use all fingers on my left hand and one finger on my right hand when u...

why didn't use colemak

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

#

I do use colemak

#

Well

#

Colemak-dhm

#

But I used to use qwerty

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

#

tranquil orchid Colemak-dhm

why this one

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

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tribal aurora why didn't use colemak

cause no matter how cool these other layouts are, you then go to use someone elses station and cant type at all

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

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why not colemak itself

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

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It's better for split keyboards

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

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i hit x with my index finger

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

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oh you use split ones?

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

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is that normal

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

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Or rather, columnar keyboards

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

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no

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:38 AM

#

tbh maybe I should learn to use colemak

#

and that's when I learn how to type

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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and space bar with index lol wtf

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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that way... I've got no bad habits to get used to

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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latent scaffold tbh maybe I should learn to use colemak

it's great learn it

latent scaffold Jun 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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cause they were all on qwerty

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y'know... clean-ish slate

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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Is the current layout

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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anyways its not even needed, im equal wpm with jack and using a normal layout

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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I have some changes in mind though

harsh tundra Jun 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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Colemak ❤️ I haven't used it in ages. But I sometimes try and kinda remember what is where :D

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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I'm just on my laptop atm

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But I still use colemak-dhm there

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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dam it

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full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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AND i can type on coworkers or other peoples keyboards

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jack cant ^_^

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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lol

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I don't type on other peoples keyboards

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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jack : damm where is that key ;_;

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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full needle cause no matter how cool these other layouts are, you then go to use someone els...

I type 70 wpm on others computer

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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hehe

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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::

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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that's enough

frozen coral Jun 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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Typing on other people's keyboards/using their mice is gross

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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tribal aurora

triple digit gang unite

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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It's way better there

frozen coral Jun 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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the amount of people that don't wash their hands after the bathroom is enough for me not to want to lol

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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full needle triple digit gang unite

hm ?

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:41 AM

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idk who thought putting ; on the homerow was a good idea

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:41 AM

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frozen coral Typing on other people's keyboards/using their mice is gross

i mean i agree but also i feel like a lot of times i have to use other computers

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like maybe once a month

frozen coral Jun 5, 2021, 11:41 AM

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Yea, I guess that's hard to get away from if it's part of your role

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:41 AM

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tranquil orchid It's way better there

lol get a better screenshot

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:41 AM

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tribal aurora hm ?

your wpm. there was only what 3 of us? 4 maybe? who had 3 digits

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:41 AM

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it's not obvi where it is located

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:41 AM

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is there a ground rule of where ur fingers should be placed when typing

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:41 AM

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full needle your wpm. there was only what 3 of us? 4 maybe? who had 3 digits

oh

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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you mean that

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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like index at f and j

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or someting?

frozen coral Jun 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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What keyboard do you use btw jack?

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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inland wolf is there a ground rule of where ur fingers should be placed when typing

index on f and j, they should have an indent. then all next to eachother one per key

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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ZSA moonlander

frozen coral Jun 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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ahh nice

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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only move one finger at a time, if its uncomfy to reach its because your using the wrong finger @inland wolf

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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@inland wolf Your keyboard should have lil bumps on f and j, which it where your index fingers should rest

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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yes

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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well, 2nd finger might kinda move with y ou as you move one, but yea

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:42 AM

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it feels weird for me to press w without middle finger

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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w should be left ring finger

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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yea

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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it just moves up one key

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ez

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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im not used to using my ring fingers at all

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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this is why your lowly 2 digit wpm gang

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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Staggered keyboards feel kinda weird

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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same with pinky

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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you'll get used to it if you keep trying haha

inland wolf Jun 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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true

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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I don't like not being able to just move my fingers directly down onto the key below

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Staggered keyboards make you move them around a lil more

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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i used to use those staggered ergonomic ones like this

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but then i grew up and got a job and job laptops and on the move and stuff and just gave it up since you cant get laptops like that

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:45 AM

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microsoft 😶

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:45 AM

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I love split boards, it feels so much comfier

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:45 AM

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get kenesis advantage

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:45 AM

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tribal aurora microsoft 😶

ms used to make really good hardware, that was like the number one ergonomic keyboard you could buy back in 2000

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:45 AM

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And columnar boards

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:45 AM

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actually tbh ms hardware still good

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:45 AM

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full needle ms used to make really good hardware, that was like the number one ergonomic key...

we're living in 2021

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:46 AM

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and i said i used to use keyboards liike that, gives keyboard from back then

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gosh duh

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:46 AM

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ima pull you back from past

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:46 AM

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pls no the present sucks

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let me live in past ;_;

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:46 AM

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git pull Araye from-past

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:47 AM

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differents-modeles-de-tamagotchis-animaux-de-compagnie-news-photo-949995592-1564686725.png

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memba these

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:47 AM

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could we make something like this the standard, that'd be great

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:49 AM

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is it just me or no one understand this

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:49 AM

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Get rid of staggered layouts. there's no reason for them to be staggered anymore

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:50 AM

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its ergonomicly sound

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to have the keyboard slightly angles

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to use a normal keyboard you have to bend your rights, by angling and staggering it it helps

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:51 AM

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I mean preferably yeah, the alice layout would be better

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Since I doubt actual fully split keyboards will be widely adopted, something like this would be good

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Although fully split is very nice

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:53 AM

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hey jack can u look at #help-cake pls. guy called someone an idiot and is now arguing that he is right to say so (meaning hell do it again to others) >_>

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:55 AM

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He seems to have calmed down, so probably best to just leave that

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:55 AM

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that keyboard looks crazy tho, even my ms one wasnst that curved

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:55 AM

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My board is two completely seperate halves

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Which feels really nice

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:56 AM

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Who uses a mechanical keyboard :P

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:56 AM

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me

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:56 AM

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Me

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Mechanical feels nice

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:56 AM

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yes

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though i also like membrane keyboard's silence

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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I don't know, I'm slow on mechanicals

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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There's some amazing silent switches out there

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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heh

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o

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i have blue ones i think..

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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Oh lol

topaz aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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My reds are pretty silent

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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Those are like, made to be loud, literally @edgy crest

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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tribal aurora Who uses a mechanical keyboard :P

lots of people use mechanical!

topaz aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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Although they're a bit springy

tranquil orchid Jun 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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They're clicky switches

full needle Jun 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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they feel better

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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how do i check

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cant find the package

tribal aurora Jun 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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full needle lots of people use mechanical!

Ik I just said it for joke

edgy crest Jun 5, 2021, 11:57 AM

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can i just take one key out and see the color