ot1-perplexing-regexing

[opaque sentinel]

also 1.7.2

wait nvm that was just an example

[vapid nymph]

Oh yeah I think it's ==

But when adding via cli I think = worked idr

[vapid nymph]

@bleak lintel how does pydis repos automatically merge prs when requirements are met?

[bleak lintel]

why wouldn't we lol

[vapid nymph]

what?

[bleak lintel]

oh

you said how

lol

not why

[vapid nymph]

I asked how lmao

[bleak lintel]

oh it's just a github feature

lol

github auto-merge

[vapid nymph]

but

you have to turn that on per pr, no?

[bleak lintel]

https://docs.github.com/en/github/collaborating-with-issues-and-pull-requests/incorporating-changes-from-a-pull-request/automatically-merging-a-pull-request

yea

[vapid nymph]

wut

so pydis has to turn that on for every pr?!

doesn't the requirements workflow do that automatically or something?

[bleak lintel]

no, we don't turn it on per PR

we just do it when we feel like it

not every PR is suitable for auto-mergeg

[vapid nymph]

oh i thought every pr was actually being automerged lmfao

[bleak lintel]

nah

[vapid nymph]

staff just presses the merge button if all requirements are met after they review

[bleak lintel]

yeah

or they enable auto-merge

[vapid nymph]

yeah lol

[gritty zinc]

my oneliners start to give me visual overloads

[late sedge]

oh nice rust

[gritty zinc]

it doesn't work 😦

I feel quite dumb right now

I assumed codingame didn't allow imports

but it does some; including the rand I reimplemented manually...

oh god, they compile without optimizations, for all languages

except C++ in which it's apparently possible to force the compiler to enable optimizations from the source

[gritty zinc]

😔

[small nacelle]

Guys I have a question but it’s not for python it’s for chrome extensions, anyone knows if chrome extensions have the ability to read/detect if you have other apps running on your computer? For example python, can it get detect that is running from a chrome extension?

[rich moon]

think browsers prevent u from knowing what processes are running

[teal spear]

help, my laptop is lagging even though i have about 50gbs left of space and 3.79 ram that is still usable out of 4.00 ram

[distant hazel]

^ 4 GB ram?

[teal spear]

yes

[distant hazel]

what OS?

[teal spear]

currently downloading genshin impact, don't know if that has anything to do with that

windows 10

[distant hazel]

4 GB ram does not seem like a lot..

[wraith hound]

It's not

[gritty zinc]

half a modded minecraft

[low chasm]

Hi :D

[wraith hound]

PyCharm would make my computer lag so much

Since I have 4 gigs ram

[low chasm]

Pycharm would make my computer spontaneously combust

[gritty zinc]

it doesn't use more like 2 for me

[wraith hound]

It uses like 3 for me

[gritty zinc]

but 4gb memory is probably suffering in general

[low chasm]

Thankfully I have a significantly better computer now

[teal spear]

mine too but only in projects with a lot of codes

[low chasm]

Yeah, but if you have discord and a browser open, 4gb is not going to be that good

[distant hazel]

do you regularly play games? don't you find your laptop struggles at all?

[low chasm]

You could always hook up several terabytes of hdd swap and watch the world burn though

[teal spear]

well i used to play valorant then took a liking in coding so then i stopped playing

[wraith hound]

me with 2 browser windows, discord, vsc, and windows terminal almost always open

[gritty zinc]

world burning at 20MB/s access 😔

[low chasm]

I went from 4 to 16gb ram and it is amazing

[low chasm]

Haha

I'm not sure how I would have done rust on my old laptop

It takes upwards of a minute to compile on my current system

It would take a fucking millennium to compile on my laptop

[gritty zinc]

today I've programmed in Rust for ~8 hours straight

[low chasm]

Pfft

[gritty zinc]

and failed

[low chasm]

Lmao

I've been busy studying for my final tomorrow D:

So no rust today

[gritty zinc]

https://www.codingame.com/ide/puzzle/mars-lander
this horrible thing

[low chasm]

Haha

[gritty zinc]

I've been implementing a search-based algorithm for it

[low chasm]

Cool

Did it work

[gritty zinc]

except I've never done something like that for real

so I went from nothing, to random search, to beam search

and then something broke and now it doesn't seem to follow the solutions it finds

[low chasm]

Lmao

[gritty zinc]

and I tried to make a runner for it that'd emulate how the server does it, but it seems to hang on reading the stdout of the child process

and also I discovered that they seem to be compiling everything in debug mode, not release

so compiled languages suffer a lot

[wraith hound]

Can't you just append --release if it's Rust?

[gritty zinc]

except apparently C++, because it has a way to, like, specify in the source code that this file needs to be compiled with certain settings

[gritty zinc]

How? I'm only sending the source code

[low chasm]

Hm

cargo build --release?

[wraith hound]

Ohh, I thought you were talking about running locally

[gritty zinc]

all 828 lines of it

[low chasm]

Ah shit

[gritty zinc]

including manually implemented Vec2s and rand

(the latter actually is one of the crates they give access to, but I didn't know it)

fn compute_next_position(
    pos: Vec2<COORD>,
    vel: Vec2<COORD>,
    angle_degs: i32,
    thrust: i32,
) -> (Vec2<COORD>, Vec2<COORD>) {
    let angle = (angle_degs as f64 / 180f64 * PI) as COORD;
    let thrust_vec = UP_F64.rotate(angle) * thrust as COORD;
    let thrust_vec_rounded = Vec2 {
        // Casting to int always truncates (rounds towards 0)
        x: thrust_vec.x as COORD,
        y: thrust_vec.y as COORD,
    };
    let accel = thrust_vec_rounded + GACCEL;
    let new_pos = pos + vel + accel / 2 as COORD; // Add a term for acceleration.
    let new_vel = vel + accel;
    (new_pos, new_vel)
}
fn compute_next_state(envir: &Environment, state: &State, decs: &Decisions) -> State {
    let new_thrust = match decs.target_thrust.cmp(&state.cur_thrust) {
        std::cmp::Ordering::Equal => state.cur_thrust,
        std::cmp::Ordering::Less => state.cur_thrust - 1,
        std::cmp::Ordering::Greater => state.cur_thrust + 1,
    };
    let fuel_usage = new_thrust; // By the examples, it's the new thrust that determines usage.

    //FIXME: make thrust not work without fuel!
    let new_angle = match decs.target_angle.cmp(&state.angle_degs) {
        std::cmp::Ordering::Equal => state.angle_degs,
        std::cmp::Ordering::Less => max(state.angle_degs - 15, decs.target_angle),
        std::cmp::Ordering::Greater => min(state.angle_degs + 15, decs.target_angle),
    };
    //Assuming, baselessly, that it's the new angle and thrust that matter
    let (new_pos, new_vel) = compute_next_position(state.pos, state.vel, new_angle, new_thrust);
    let (landed, crashed) = check_landed_crashed(envir, new_pos, new_vel, new_angle);
    State {
        pos: new_pos,
        vel: new_vel,
        fuel: state.fuel - fuel_usage,
        angle_degs: new_angle,
        cur_thrust: new_thrust,
        landed,
        crashed,
    }
}

my physics simulator is, very annoyingly, almost perfectly accurate

but for some reason, ends up deviating in some cases anyway

[rich moon]

made a rocket simulator and its not too bad. I should prob also add coriolis to account for a rotating earth

mars lander seems pretty cool

think they call it the 9 min of terror or sth due to thin atmosphere

[gritty zinc]

oh, looks like they do compile in release now

pog

[topaz aurora]

I like elpy

[uncut anvil]

I have installed an Ubuntu vm on virtualbox but i cant insert Guest additions CD image.

it gives me this error

Could not mount the media/drive 'C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox\VBoxGuestAdditions.iso' (VERR_PDM_MEDIA_LOCKED).


Result Code: 
E_FAIL (0x80004005)
Component: 
ConsoleWrap
Interface: 
IConsole {872da645-4a9b-1727-bee2-5585105b9eed}
Callee: 
IMachine {85632c68-b5bb-4316-a900-5eb28d3413df}

[graceful basin]

you need to unmount whatever you already have mounted as a disk

[uncut anvil]

how?

[nocturne trellis]

How can I run exe files on mac, on big sur?

[verbal glen]

wine maybe

never used mac though so idk

[nocturne trellis]

wine doesnt work on big sur

like 20% of applications dont

because apple is a fucking genius

[verbal glen]

oh rip

sorry then

[latent scaffold]

Poor Mac users

if only I felt sorry for them

[acoustic moss]

why do you use apple then 😩

[latent scaffold]

cause forehead not fivehead

[rich moon]

u know i was considering getting a macbook

[nocturne trellis]

good thing you didnt

[ivory bluff]

Tbf, you can run Windows virtually on mac os big sur

And with the M1 macs, it'll prolly run smoother on mac than on windows hardware

[inland wolf]

yea

lol

lnus techc tips

[last mantle]

That doesn't make any sense

[inland wolf]

m1 macs running vm windows performed better than a regular arm windows

that mightve changed now tho

idk

the arm windows pc was the surface pro x

i think

[last mantle]

Yes and that's what Microsoft put in it

It's not windows hardware

Windows hardware doesn't make any sense

[ivory bluff]

Agreed.

[inland wolf]

yes

[last mantle]

For example, a 5950x with 3080 can kill a mac

[inland wolf]

sounds overkill

[ivory bluff]

Also, expensive!

[last mantle]

I'm positive that it will destroy a mac

[ivory bluff]

Yea but the size difference is massive and so is the price difference

[last mantle]

Yes and I just pointed out that there is no such thing as windows hardware

[latent scaffold]

but not as good as Windows 10 in a KVM 👍🏽

[inland wolf]

ok

[ivory bluff]

ok

[latent scaffold]

ok

[last mantle]

ok

[inland wolf]

ok

[lunar crescent]

ok?

[solemn leaf]

ok!

[tepid widget]

https://supelion.floppa.site/​​‌‌​‌‌‌​‌‌​​​‌‌​‌‌‌​‌​​​‌​​​‌‌​​‌‌​‌​​‌​​‌‌​​​​​‌‌‌​​​​​​‌‌​‌​‌

what does this mean?

[lunar crescent]

you're not authorized is what that means

[tepid widget]

damn

[lunar crescent]

you probably need an API key or a password or something along the lines of that

[tepid widget]

yeah

[rough sapphire]

That cdn discordapp?

[tepid widget]

no

[rough sapphire]

K k

[lunar crescent]

.topic

[median dome]

**What are your hobbies other than programming?**

Suggest more topics here!

[rough sapphire]

Doing .topic in ot

[honest pawn]

gaming

[near bolt]

is it common practice to memoize functions we define?

[honest pawn]

Wdym

[near bolt]

like memoizing helps in improving the efficiency to reduce the number of repeated calculations

but do we usually do it if the question doesnt ask us to do so?

[near bolt]

can all functions be memoized?

like how do we tell if it can be

[honest pawn]

Memorize what part of the function?
The name?
The purpose?
How it works?

[near bolt]

i just learnt memoize a function called fibonacci

becuz there are many repeated calculations

[honest pawn]

Again, what are you memorizing?
The whole point of a function is to placehold for a piece of code

[inland wolf]

if they make repeated calculations

memoizing can help

[near bolt]

ohh i see ok

[near bolt]

umm i think we were talking abt diff things

i meant memoize

[latent scaffold]

isn't memoizing something else

[near bolt]

not memorize

[inland wolf]

memoize is to save the result of calculations in memory

[honest pawn]

Oh

[inland wolf]

so u can access it later witouth needing to calculate again

[honest pawn]

XD

[latent scaffold]

memoize? memorize?

[inland wolf]

memoize

[latent scaffold]

oh. I finished reading

same thing at this point tbh

[inland wolf]

i dontt hink @near bolt ever said memorize

lpl

[latent scaffold]

I must've misread somewhere

[honest pawn]

Same

[latent scaffold]

could swear I read memorize like twice

[honest pawn]

I think that was me 😅

[inland wolf]

lol

they only said it once

[inland wolf]

and that was here

[near bolt]

yeah i didnt learn memorize yet

[honest pawn]

Memoizing sounds like a good idea

[graceful basin]

@near boltmemoization is rarely applicable. Most functions have effects or arguments that aren't easily hashable, or there is just no reason to memoize it because it is not the bottleneck. When it is useful, it is very useful however

I would suggest against just throwing @cache on everything that seems remotely applicable

you are unlikely to make a major difference in performance, and you are likely to get bugs

[near bolt]

oh i see okayy thanks!

[near bolt]

oh im due to learn that ill go read up more abt it

this is the original function

   static int fib(int n) {
        if (n == 0) {
            return 0;
        } else if (n == 1) {
            return 1;
        } else {
            return fib(n - 1) + fib (n - 2);
        }
    }```

[near bolt]

i dont get line 5

they created a new array called memoryArray

[honest pawn]

That's an array that is n + 1 units large

[near bolt]

oh yeah but why would they want n+1 units large

and not n units?

[honest pawn]

Uh, idk
I think it's to make sure the array is big enough to have enough parameters for helperFib...?

[near bolt]

i dont get how this works so i thought the objective is to create an array to store all the numbers in a fibonacci series then check if it appears again

but here it's creating an array with n+1 units with the first two value 0, 1 and the rest -1. then afterwards you check if your new array is = -1/ the same as the previous values but wouldnt it not be -1?

[honest pawn]

Hold on
Give me little time to understand this function

[near bolt]

okk np thx

[near bolt]

is cache only used for python

does it work for java

[graceful basin]

cache is a python thing

you could have a memoization annotation in java

but it would be a lot harder to implement

java generally makes you write it yourself

[near bolt]

ohh ok thanks

[near bolt]

does this work the same way as this

[graceful basin]

it is very similar, but not the exact same

[near bolt]

i see i get the second one but i dont get what's the first pic doing

[tall pawn]

does anyone know how to get over study anxiety?
when i try to study, i cry and can't stop it

cried for 1 hour learned nothing...

suffering from normal depression and anxiety

[honest pawn]

No idea.
My guess is that the first function is saving the fibbonanci numbers for every number between 2 and n in an array, but idk
Pretty sure you already know that, soo...

[rough sapphire]

yo coders

yes?

[near bolt]

oh

[honest pawn]

Now I'm trying to work out why the size of the array is n + 1
Perhaps it is for in case the array needs to be expanded...?

Again, idk
I don't trust recursion because python shuts down after 1000 recursions

[graceful basin]

for 2, it will hit memory at index 2 1 0, which is 3 places

[acoustic moss]

hmm
I just tried it with java, and I got a StackOverflowError at 11278 recursive calls

(not related to fibo, just saying)

[thick dawn]

guys is web development good to learn? actually i am in class 12 and want to learn something lucrative. btw i know python, tkinter, kivy and C

[inland wolf]

yes web dev is good to learn

and it should be a breeze for u since u alreadu know python and c

u can make backends with python

[thick dawn]

should i go for front end development with html, css and javascript? what r your suggestions on this?

[inland wolf]

it doesnt hurt to know a bit of both frontend and backend, does it?

[thick dawn]

surely not

[inland wolf]

yes

so u can learn front end first

then u can learn how to make backends

to make ur website dynamic

[thick dawn]

sounds good. tq

[inland wolf]

ye

[vapid nymph]

hey @bleak lintel do you need a domain to do something like https://policy-bot.pythondiscord.com/details/python-discord/site/513 or is there something that hosts it

[bleak lintel]

self hosted

It's on our infra and our configuration

chances are you definitely don't need policy bot

[vapid nymph]

i mean is it possible to set it up without hosting it

[bleak lintel]

no

unless I like grant you access lol

[vapid nymph]

is policy bot pydis only?

i have been confused

[wraith hound]

no

https://github.com/palantir/policy-bot

PyDis just hosts their own instance

[vapid nymph]

hm

is it partially because the bot looks in the root of the directory

which is annoying lmao

[wraith hound]

😕

[bleak lintel]

wdym

it looks under .github/review-policy.yaml but you can put it anywhere

[vapid nymph]

wut no

By default, the behavior of the bot is configured by a .policy.yml file at the root of the repository. When running your own instance of the server, a different file name and location can be configured. The configured name and location will be used instead of the default location.

if you host it you can change it

if you don't, its gotta be policy.yml in the root

[bleak lintel]

key word "by default"

there isn't a hosted instance is there

[wraith hound]

Maybe this?

[vapid nymph]

man im dumb lmao

[bleak lintel]

that's not hosted

we use that

Bot and site fetch the review policy from our .github repo, you'll see if you check their policies

[wraith hound]

I see

[vapid nymph]

and lance

iirc

[bleak lintel]

yeah

there are a few

and I can manually override checks as well

[vapid nymph]

do you manually override with policy bot

[bleak lintel]

no, I wrote a script in Ruby

[vapid nymph]

like

what's your branch protection

[vapid nymph]

oh, is it oss?

[bleak lintel]

lint/test + review reqs

nah, lol

it's awful

what is your use case for policy bot

and why does branch protection not satisfy it

[vapid nymph]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

was curious about policy bot

whether i use it or not, unlikely

[bleak lintel]

ah

[vapid nymph]

that's the branch protection for merges on discord-modmail/modmail

[wraith hound]

Can anyone use CODEOWNERS?

Or is that a paid feature?

[vapid nymph]

anyone on public repo

[wraith hound]

Oh, yay

[vapid nymph]

discord-modmail/modmail#3

[median dome]

GitHub

Adds Workflows

[vapid nymph]

we have workflows 🙂

[wraith hound]

So I've seen

[vapid nymph]

next step is database schema with sqlalchemy and pydantic

[wraith hound]

Is there something useless I can do on that bot? I'm bored

[vapid nymph]

lol yah

i should make issues for what needs to be done

but waiting until the database is done, since most features can't be done without database schema

[acoustic moss]

@bleak lintel gib graph 🤌
graph of users who have sent max messages last week

[bleak lintel]

lol

[vapid nymph]

note: I'm writing the database schema so I'm basically waiting for myself

[bleak lintel]

in which channels

[edgy crest]

ot0

[vapid nymph]

yes.

[bleak lintel]

i mean i won't include staff channels lol

[acoustic moss]

all public

[vapid nymph]

error handler, help command, basic bot code lol

[edgy crest]

yes

[wraith hound]

Idk how to do dynamic help

Or good error handling

[vapid nymph]

lol what do you wanna do

[tardy rain]

Log everything, return 500 if anything breaks

[vapid nymph]

or are good at

[wraith hound]

Idk

I'll just wait for you to make issues

[bleak lintel]

what time period

last 1 month

[wraith hound]

And then find something that I know how to do

[acoustic moss]

sure

[vapid nymph]

lmao okay

also using starlette for the site

[wraith hound]

Noice

[acoustic moss]

dang

[wraith hound]

… I talk too much

[bleak lintel]

oh now i see week in the Q lol i'm stupid

one sec

[acoustic moss]

kinda surprised I'm not there lol

[vapid nymph]

lmao

same

[acoustic moss]

Aboo though

wtf Aboo

[bleak lintel]

1wk

[vapid nymph]

yeah wtf lol

[vapid nymph]

wtf what channel is this for

[wraith hound]

Half of Aboo's messages are like "lmao" or "lol" though

[vapid nymph]

lmao

[bleak lintel]

all

[vapid nymph]

true tho

[acoustic moss]

lol

[vapid nymph]

lol

[bleak lintel]

all public

[vapid nymph]

what about just !ot

[edgy crest]

im not on the list 😔

[tardy rain]

What about everything but ot

[vapid nymph]

what about every query we could think of

[acoustic moss]

I don't think the system works

o nvm

i can't do math

[bleak lintel]

ot 1wk

[acoustic moss]

how bout in the help channels

let's see how active the helpers are 👀

[edgy crest]

[bleak lintel]

lol

[acoustic moss]

🤔

[vapid nymph]

u gonna email urself then?

[bleak lintel]

last 1wk in help chans

[acoustic moss]

interesting

i haven't met half those people in ym life

[edgy crest]

same

[acoustic moss]

actually just 3 of them

[edgy crest]

probably because i dont check help channels

[vapid nymph]

.xkcd 327

[median dome]

XKCD comic #327

Her daughter is named Help I'm trapped in a driver's license factory.

2007/10/10 - #327, 'Exploits of a Mom'

[acoustic moss]

g(old)

[vapid nymph]

i'm changing my username brb

[bleak lintel]

lol

go for it

[wraith hound]

PyDis definitely sanitizes stuff

[vapid nymph]

ik lol

[edgy crest]

well theres a pandemic going

[vapid nymph]

there's 200k members so chances are it would've happened already

[vapid nymph]

…

lol

[graceful basin]

a meaningful portion of the server spend all their time in the help channels and never leave

[vapid nymph]

the rest of the server just stares at them

[edgy crest]

[wraith hound]

I wish I hung out in help channels more, but I have no idea about what half of what people ask

[edgy crest]

whenever i try to help it doesnt turn out too good

[acoustic moss]

lol

[edgy crest]

i get tired in the middle

[graceful basin]

it is always either spend until 2AM explaining things or leave instantly because you don't know what the people are asking

[edgy crest]

me who closes discord in the middle

[vapid nymph]

starlette and tailwind huhm

[acoustic moss]

username change when

[tardy rain]

It really doesnt help that people dont know how to ask proper questions

[wraith hound]

Tailwind = good

Very good

[graceful basin]

eh, generally you can infer what they want help with

[acoustic moss]

bootstrap >>> tailwind

• closes discord *

[wraith hound]

Depends

[edgy crest]

pure css >> bootstrap

[wraith hound]

Sass >>>> pure css

[edgy crest]

just html >>>

[acoustic moss]

plain text >>>>

[edgy crest]

terminal >>

[graceful basin]

latex >>> all

[wraith hound]

https://thebestmotherfuckingwebsite.co

[acoustic moss]

lol

[edgy crest]

lmao

nice website

[acoustic moss]

inspired by http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/, http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ and http://evenbettermotherfucking.website/

lol

[edgy crest]

lol

[graceful basin]

honestly, modern web is pretty cool

can't really point to a point where it was better

[vapid nymph]

probably using tailwind for the modmail dashboard

with a starlette backend

[wraith hound]

Dew it

[inland wolf]

mountain dew.

[wraith hound]

That's something I can help with if you want

I do frontend all the time

[vapid nymph]

hm

https://github.com/python-discord/logcord

[inland wolf]

logcord

[vapid nymph]

@bleak lintel is this still under development

[vapid nymph]

ooh nice

do you do database stuff at all?

[wraith hound]

Sometimes

I'm working on something with supabase rn in js

I haven't done it in Python much though

[vapid nymph]

since the dashboard will basically be a database interface

[wraith hound]

mhm

How will the dashboard work if they're self hosting the bot?

[bleak lintel]

yes

[vapid nymph]

the website and the bot will never communicate directly

[vapid nymph]

🤔 that uses mongo is that literally for the kyb3r modmail?

[wraith hound]

Oh? Then why do you need a dashboard

[vapid nymph]

dashboard options are a supplement to the main purpose of being able to show logs

[wraith hound]

Ohhh

So like

Stuff gets sent through the database?

[vapid nymph]

yeah

[wraith hound]

And you're hosting the website

Not the users

Got it

[vapid nymph]

no, the users host the website as well lol

[wraith hound]

Oh I see

[vapid nymph]

the kyb3r modmail requires two applications, bot and site

[wraith hound]

Why not just host the website yourself and allow linking it?

And use the site to help manage the bot

[vapid nymph]

because now I have to save every single postgresql url

[wraith hound]

That's easier for the end user, isn't it?

[wraith hound]

Good point

[vapid nymph]

i wouldn't think so

one of the reasons to code the site in an ASGI framework is to possibly be able to deploy the bot with the site at the same time

[bleak lintel]

no

it's for our own stuff

[vapid nymph]

ah

[low chasm]

my errors broke D:

The colors came out nice though

[vapid nymph]

@bleak lintel how much ram does @polar knoll use?

[bleak lintel]

295Mi rn

[inland wolf]

dang

[vapid nymph]

That's so low wtf

In comparison to others

Hm

[vapid nymph]

Could you tell me what intents are enabled on the developer portal? 🥺

Since the bot can run without some of the intents

[bleak lintel]

members, no presences

iirc

[vapid nymph]

Becuz someone has 2GB ram usage rn

With 700k members

[bleak lintel]

lol

[vapid nymph]

Seems like it's the presences endpoint

[tardy rain]

Lmao youre still pinging them

Isnt this why you were warned by staff the other day?

You blocked me? You were the one harassing me lol

🥴

[rough sapphire]

ma rio sis

[rough sapphire]

Where? tell me

[tardy rain]

What

[rough sapphire]

.topic

[median dome]

**What book do you highly recommend everyone to read?**

Suggest more topics here!

[rough sapphire]

Ringworld

It's so good that I haven't read it

[vapid nymph]

becuz i was deleting my pings 😓

😳

https://github.com/discord-modmail/site

the entire repo is like 6 files

no code

[rough sapphire]

ute

[vapid nymph]

how can flake8 even possibly fail

HOW

[tardy rain]

I was talking to this renegade guy constantly pinging strobe

He deleted the ping

[vapid nymph]

ah ;-;

trying the workflow again

can't hurt

[rough sapphire]

Can

[vapid nymph]

why

[rough sapphire]

Everything can

[vapid nymph]

@bleak lintel send your expertise in .github here pls 🥺

[bleak lintel]

uh

lol

idk

is it linting your venv or smth

am busy today

doing

[vapid nymph]

^

wut

lmao

[wraith hound]

I was trying to click a different button

[vapid nymph]

delet speed 100%

[wraith hound]

But you sent the message

So it didn't work

[vapid nymph]

lmao

anyways, any ideas

[wraith hound]

No

The only line that has a 338 or whatever it was was poetry.lock

And I checked, and the indentation was normal

[vapid nymph]

yeah im an idiot

[vapid nymph]

this

i didn't copy over the .flake8 file

[bleak lintel]

lol

[vapid nymph]

discord-modmail/site#1

[median dome]

GitHub

Linting workflow and fix license

[vapid nymph]

sad

[sterile grail]

.topic

[median dome]

**Name one famous person you would like to have at your easter dinner.**

Suggest more topics here!

[sterile grail]

Oh wait that's cool, it has different topics for the off topic channel

[vapid nymph]

Ye

[rough sapphire]

#python-discussion message @valid solar Ja but I'm not german

Btw

Do you know who is Nietzsche?

[valid solar]

der du?

[rough sapphire]

Nein

[valid solar]

you dont?

[rough sapphire]

Oh wait

kk

my german is not that good

I thought you meant "he is you?"

lol

my fault

sorry

[valid solar]

ok heres a more dated translated

tun du

[rough sapphire]

I am turkish

[valid solar]

oh crazy i got distant family from there

[rough sapphire]

but I love Nietzsche's ideas

Nietzsche's ideas are basics of Fascism

and Nazism

[valid solar]

O_O

so..

do you support nazism?

[rough sapphire]

yes but no

[valid solar]

which part of it do you support

the tremendous racism part or the authoritarian beliefs part

in german translation

Nietzsche could mean

Not Tonight

or Not this

[rough sapphire]

racism part

and authoritarian

what I mean by racism is

ultra nationalism

[valid solar]

or

racism

[rough sapphire]

yes

lol

[valid solar]

separate social parties

3 problems with that

1. that'll fuck up the economy 10x worse than communism

2. gonna dry up all the gene pools

3. immorality

[rough sapphire]

I am economically communist

I am just culturally Nazist

Or fascist*

[valid solar]

you are just the miscallaneous crumbs of humanity's mistakes

[rough sapphire]

Its my opinion

[valid solar]

both have proven to be morally and economically inefficient

its not an opinion its a belief

theres a line between the two

[rough sapphire]

Its an opinion

I dont believe in a thing

[valid solar]

a belief

[rough sapphire]

thatI think

Oh and

[valid solar]

so you're saying

[rough sapphire]

I already believe in Allah

[valid solar]

allah

the

arabic word for

god?

[rough sapphire]

No

Allah is the name of the Creator

The only Creator

[valid solar]

which

in many cultures

is depicted as god

[rough sapphire]

There is only one and it’s Allah

[valid solar]

allah literally means god

[rough sapphire]

other ones are nothing more than a bullshit

[rough sapphire]

bruh

I messed uğ

Up

True

Ok so

Allah in the Islam

[tardy rain]

Kinda rude to insult other religions like that

[rough sapphire]

whats it

I mean

what is the insult

bruh

I cant talk english

wait let me use translator

[tardy rain]

This

[rough sapphire]

oh

yes

No its not insulting

its just trıth

truth

there are millions of evidences that

[tardy rain]

Its not, youre insulting other people's beliefs

[rough sapphire]

Islam is the last true religion

[tardy rain]

Theres no evidence for any of this, thats why its called faith

[harsh tundra]

please provide said "evidence"

[rough sapphire]

they dont have anything to do other than believing in Islam

[low chasm]

I'm muslim as well, but I don't think we should be pushing our religion onto others

[rough sapphire]

well it shouldnt be called belief tho

[rough sapphire]

okay

give me a sec

[tardy rain]

It is and you cant prove otherwise

[rough sapphire]

literally your religion forces it

[honest star]

Hi y'aaaaaallll, we're going to stop this right now.

[low chasm]

hi

[honest star]

End of discussion.

[low chasm]

ok

[honest star]

Not continuing it.

Re-read our code of conduct.

We should be respectful of other cultures and viewpoints.

[rough sapphire]

@honest star at least let me send the evidence

[honest star]

.topic

[median dome]

**If you could have any superpower, what would it be?**

Suggest more topics here!

[low chasm]

hm

[rough sapphire]

Nicky asked for it

[honest star]

Nope, end of discussion.

[rough sapphire]

its my duty to spread islam

[honest star]

This is not the server to do so.

[rough sapphire]

its sin for me if I dont

[honest star]

Re-read our #code-of-conduct

[harsh tundra]

as for someone having that username, you are really "religious"

[tardy rain]

🥴 Just stop man

[low chasm]

.topic :P

[median dome]

**What is the most useless talent that you have?**

Suggest more topics here!

[harsh tundra]

I asked for it to disprove it

[rough sapphire]

you cant

[honest star]

I can always arrive exactly 5 minutes late.

That's my most useless talent :D

[harsh tundra]

I can disprove your "proofs", but not religion itself. you try to disprove other religions

[valid solar]

was i controversial in this

[rough sapphire]

you cant disprove my proofs

[honest star]

@harsh tundra@rough sapphireWe are not continuing this discussion.

[valid solar]

just making sure im not getting pinned for this

[rough sapphire]

Kk

[valid solar]

im out of the blue right guys

[misty dew]

yooo same but it's either 5 minutes late or 10 minutes early

[low chasm]

lmao

[wraith hound]

yo same

[valid solar]

im kinda on board with buddhism

[harsh tundra]

Sooo... Cat photos? XD

[valid solar]

i mean a chill fat guy just hanging out

[low chasm]

ooh yes

[valid solar]

i'd want that religion

[harsh tundra]

Find the cat

[valid solar]

found it

[valid solar]

its in the water

[honest star]

you're growing a cat =P

[misty dew]

I win

[vapid nymph]

I am slightly annoyed

[low chasm]

how the fuck were you that fast

[vapid nymph]

I just had issues with github workflows because I didn't commit my Flake8 config and vscode invokes Flake8 with special args by default so it was hard to catch

[valid solar]

bro thats one sick catato you're growing there

[misty dew]

[harsh tundra]

that emoji... is both great and terrifying

[misty dew]

ikr

[low chasm]

pfft

[valid solar]

xe/xem are not pronouns wtf

[vapid nymph]

I love it

[honest star]

!warn 846401866463969290 When I tell you to stop discussing a topic, you should stop discussing a topic. Not post pictures continuing it.

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @rough sapphire.

[valid solar]

he didnt continue it?

[harsh tundra]

they are literally older than rainbow flag, but ok XD

[low chasm]

I have mixed feelings about this emoji

[vapid nymph]

Uh. @honest star

[harsh tundra]

there were messages but they were being continously deleted

[rough sapphire]

I was about to post a cat picture but I misclicked it :/

[misty dew]

[low chasm]

whoah

[valid solar]

i've never heard of xe/xem but im not gonna continue it so i can stay out of controversy

[vapid nymph]

Ye they're pronouns

[low chasm]

yep

[harsh tundra]

never heard != don't exist

[rough sapphire]

It sounds like pronouncation of they/them

[valid solar]

tbh it sounds more like a noun than a pronoun

[harsh tundra]

https://en.pronouns.page/xe
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/xe#Pronoun

[rough sapphire]

but yeah there is millions of man made genders so its possible it exists 😛

[rough sapphire]

bruh it exists

[valid solar]

a pronoun refers to gender or more specific definition of a person

[harsh tundra]

short nouns can become pronouns

[vapid nymph]

100% of pronouns are man made
this is just a fact of language.

[honest star]

@valid solarTo be clear here, xe/xem are absolutely pronouns and I'd recommend re-reading our code of conduct.

[valid solar]

a noun refers to the subject itself, or the name of which

[harsh tundra]

pronouns doesn't refer to gender. "I" and "you" are also pronouns
pronouns are a way of not repeating the subject

[valid solar]

woah woah i just said im trying to stay out of controversy, all i said is that i wasnt aware of xe/xem until now chill out

[valid solar]

gender or more specific definition of a person or subject

[rough sapphire]

Male and female is what you can born with. It’s what I meant

[valid solar]

not necessarily just gender

[vapid nymph]

I think she pinged the wrong person.

[harsh tundra]

first thing you said was "xe/xem are not pronouns", she is reacting to that

[vapid nymph]

No that was Nietzsche#1895 I thought

[wraith hound]

.topic Calm it down people

[median dome]

**What made you want to join this Discord server?**

Suggest more topics here!

[honest star]

I didn't.

[vapid nymph]

Oh wait nvm it was them

[harsh tundra]

meanwhile intersex people still exist

[misty dew]

male and female are genders. Gender is not tied to physical appearance or traits. End of story.

[wraith hound]

Because Python is very very good

[misty dew]

My want to get better at python and help out others

[harsh tundra]

literally the PEP8 song XDDD

[valid solar]

it kinda do tho

[rough sapphire]

It’s not a regular situation

[valid solar]

if you got taco, it indicate you are a female capable of producing a human

[honest star]

We're moving on to a new topic, alright y'all?

[rough sapphire]

XX or XY thats it

[rough sapphire]

Ok

[valid solar]

if you got cucumber, it indicate your a male sorta capable of producing a human

[harsh tundra]

why not? there are as many intersex people as there are ginger people. there are as many intersex people as there are twins. how is that not "regular situation"?

[valid solar]

again, not trying to cause controversy

if you wanna be another gender, perfectly fine

no problem there

please dont berate me with pings i have headphones on

[honest star]

I will start handing out mutes if y'all continue to discuss this as it's not productive.

[rough sapphire]

twins is also not a regular situation but its not rare and it makes it look like regular. ||also Im intersex too||

[tardy rain]

I wouldnt call a genetic defect to be normal tbqh

[wraith hound]

What's your question?

[harsh tundra]

but... I'm trying to educate! I can provide links to stats and scientific articles!

[vapid nymph]

oo

[valid solar]

mf you be intersex, nazi, turkish, philosopher wtf you rocking all kayaks my guy

[vapid nymph]

open source projects

[misty dew]

theoretically, yes. But it would require a huge amount of code and knowledge

[wraith hound]

Using Python, no, but using another lower level language, yes

[vapid nymph]

and they're outta here

[rough sapphire]

bruh Im not fully nazi

[valid solar]

you literally just said 10 mins ago you supported nazism facism, racism and communism

[harsh tundra]

don't forget having Nietzsche (atheist) as nickname while being Muslim pushing religion on others

[harsh tundra]

wait, whaaaaat

[valid solar]

mf i aint stupid

[rough sapphire]

Yup

and I also said I support nazism as culturally and communism as economically

[harsh tundra]

...dude

[rough sapphire]

this is what National Bolshevism is

[tardy rain]

That makes absolutely zero sense

[harsh tundra]

@honest star please come

[honest star]

!tempban 846401866463969290 5D Those kinds of comments are not at all appropriate here.

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @grizzled cosmos until 2021-05-29 20:20 (4 days and 23 hours).

[vapid nymph]

huh

[harsh tundra]

that became scary af

[vapid nymph]

!sf 846482671826894899

[royal lake]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[honest star]

!mute 787919156073988146 Take a timeout and stop derailing the channel. You were told to stay on topic and yet you continued the conversation.

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @valid solar until 2021-05-24 21:20 (59 minutes and 58 seconds).

[low chasm]

descimated

.topix

rip

[tardy rain]

F

[low chasm]

haha

.topic

[median dome]

**What websites do you use daily to keep yourself up to date with the industry?**

Suggest more topics here!

[low chasm]

hm

[misty dew]

github 🙄

[low chasm]

reddit ig :P

[tardy rain]

Hackernews s/

[low chasm]

s/ lol

[honest star]

So, let's chat about our newest announcement!

[misty dew]

no, it's just to start conversation

[honest star]

#black-formatter

[low chasm]

ooh

[wraith hound]

How do you gitignore the same directory that exists in every directory you have? I have a /target/ directory in every directory, and I want to not have to manually gitignore that every time

[low chasm]

New category

[misty dew]

Maybe */target would work? That's just a guess though, I can google it

[wraith hound]

VSC says that doesn't work

[tardy rain]

**/name iirc

[misty dew]

unfortunate, maybe try out mariosis's thing

[wraith hound]

Apparently that doesn't work either 😔

[harsh tundra]

you always lurking and answering questions when noone else knows the answer 😄

[wraith hound]

Ah nvm, it worked

Thanks mariosis!

[low chasm]

lmao

[tardy rain]

Heh

[vapid nymph]

what project is this for?

[wraith hound]

Actually, it kinda worked

[wraith hound]

Rust projects

[low chasm]

your doing rust :D

[vapid nymph]

ah

[low chasm]

eyy

[misty dew]

oh god don't get aboo started

[vapid nymph]

^

rice is fun

[low chasm]

too late

[misty dew]

rUsT sUpReMaCy

[low chasm]

Rust is a great language to learn :P

[misty dew]

yeah yeah yeah

[wraith hound]

Just my personal site that's very much a WIP

[misty dew]

very much a WIP

[low chasm]

so much skewed

[low chasm]

lmao

[wraith hound]

That's the point

[vapid nymph]

that's less wip than modmail's site

[wraith hound]

Nah, I use Vercel

[vapid nymph]

how much does it cost?

[wraith hound]

That site isn't even deployed, it ain't a fair comparison

[wraith hound]

Free, but it's serverless

So it's unsuitable for any type of backend

[vapid nymph]

so like heroku?

[wraith hound]

Vercel is for frontend, not backend

The backend has to be hosted elsewhere

[low chasm]

vercel is cool

[vapid nymph]

so its static pages only?

[low chasm]

Why not?

[wraith hound]

Like I'm hosting frontend on Vercel and backend for supabase

[wraith hound]

Nope

[vapid nymph]

i'm confused then

[wraith hound]

Vercel can have SSR, SSG, all that fun stuff

[vapid nymph]

🤔 modmail meta site when

[wraith hound]

meta?

[vapid nymph]

site about modmail itself

lowest priority of all priorities

[wraith hound]

That would take like not that long

[misty dew]

'DM modmail to get in contact'

and that's the site!

hope you enjoed 😄

[vapid nymph]

well, yes, but also no

[tardy rain]

Link the repo pls

Do you have issues going?

[wraith hound]

https://github.com/discord-modmail

That's the modmail one

[vapid nymph]

once the database schema is written and pushed in the next two weeks i'll create issues for all of the features

but they're all waiting on the database schema at the moment

also its finals week

[tardy rain]

Sigh why are most of you kids

Making me feel bad

[vapid nymph]

i'm 17 about to graduate

dawn is 13 tho smh

[tardy rain]

Feels old man

[vapid nymph]

😳

[wraith hound]

I didn't know you were that old

[vapid nymph]

discord tos requires 13, so you're over 13, right? 👀

[vapid nymph]

ye smh

wow now i feel old

thanks

[wraith hound]

I'm not good

It's all a facade

[vapid nymph]

^

can confirm

[misty dew]

I'm 13 too 👀

[vapid nymph]

bruh how do you guys get domain names

wtf

[wraith hound]

GitHub student dev pack

Ez

[vapid nymph]

both dawn and latk

[harsh tundra]

I started coding at 13 as well. and I thought I was good then

[misty dew]

he's joking, dawn is proficient in 18 programming languages and has jobs using 10 of them

[wraith hound]

i don't know

[vapid nymph]

i actually think you can be a good coder, but then you learn about frameworks and have to learn how to use them so you're instantly bad again

[misty dew]

I was joking too

[vapid nymph]

you == anyone

[misty dew]

well I have 2 jobs

one of them coding related

[vapid nymph]

he hired himself

[misty dew]

lol sorta

[harsh tundra]

that's called "general you" 🙂

[misty dew]

I tutor python

I don't exactly have a boss

[vapid nymph]

working for yourself, yeah

linkjoin

WAS MADE BY A THIRTEEN YEAR OLD WTF

[wraith hound]

Teach me

[harsh tundra]

I'm formally a one-person business, so I'm my own employee as well 😄

[misty dew]

the people I tutor pay me

[vapid nymph]

guys repos are fun ngl

[misty dew]

repos are fun?

whaddyamean

repositories

[harsh tundra]

...today I realised I have over 20 different loose leaf tea mixes 😮

18 from one shop, lol

[vapid nymph]

wut lol

[vapid nymph]

discord-modmail/site#1

[median dome]

GitHub

Linting workflow and fix license

[vapid nymph]

set up a repo from scratch

workflows are fun

same with orgs

now i know how joe feels

[harsh tundra]

I'm making a list with ingredients and stuff because my mother-in-law always asks "oh, what is that" and I have to check the ingredients on the teashop's website XD

[vapid nymph]

lmao i thought that was in reply to something else

ngl i was thinking for a moment "using a github repository for managing recipes seems like a good idea"

[harsh tundra]

I decided 3 minutes means I can just change topic, lol XD

we have 18 from that one because... it's a nice small shop and small businesses had problems during lockdown. and their tea mixes are just great

[vapid nymph]

no but now i wanna save recipes to a git repo

[harsh tundra]

I'm using a spreadsheet, but csv would be trackable

my partner used git to backup and sync game save files, sooo...

[vapid nymph]

yeah lmao

git is awesome

[harsh tundra]

there was one repo, ultra popular, that is about some recipe

[twilit shore]

A github repo, about a food recipe

wowsa

[low chasm]

whoeh

[tardy rain]

Yea why not

[twilit shore]

idk just seem unusual

like a single recipe

[tardy rain]

Actually, just build a crud app to store and read recipes

[harsh tundra]

I remember owner having some other repos, technical, but had either in their profile that the cake was the most popular one they had, lol

[twilit shore]

lol

[low chasm]

wat

[harsh tundra]

add node for random for when you don't know what you want to cook

[low chasm]

like physically shit in a github repo?

[twilit shore]

yeah and github doesn’t really have any competition in that space

[low chasm]

gitlab :P

[tardy rain]

bItBuCkEt

[twilit shore]

otn shitting-in-a-repo

[twilit shore]

never heard of it

[harsh tundra]

bitbucket > github

there's also gitlab but dunno where I would place it

[wraith hound]

Some other git hosting provider

[tardy rain]

Mercurial?

[harsh tundra]

but has a fox as its logo!

[tardy rain]

Subversion lmaooo

Had to use subversion for school

[harsh tundra]

but really, I haven't used gitlab, so idk

[misty dew]

fox is subclass of cat

[tardy rain]

Absolutely abominable

[twilit shore]

cat is a subset of eukarya

[harsh tundra]

bitbucket is nice and allowed your own installs until few months ago, github is bloated

[wraith hound]

octocat > fox

> 🦊

[twilit shore]

https://tenor.com/view/greetings-hello-octopus-monster-cat-gif-15312773

octocat (yes i know u meant github logo)

scary

[harsh tundra]

in behaviour, they would subclass both a cat and a dog (btw, I first wrote "god" when writing while reading all the new messages, lol)

check gitkraken logo

and how it's moving when you're launching it

cute af

well, read panda is a firefox

but since today... I might kinda join team panda, despite thinking pandas (not red pandas) are abomination... I mean, how tf did they survive eating bamboo only while being a bear, still with bear teeth? maybe when there were a lot of them, but they're just eating for the whole day and pandas in breeding programs didn't even want to reproduce, and one faked being pregnant to get more food, lol

https://benebellwen.com/2019/11/09/way-of-the-panda-tarot-by-kim-tsan/ <- this is the reason I might join team panda
cute pandas with strong messages, good for self-reflection...

[tardy rain]

Hate pandas

Theyre the face of wwf and wildlife conservation world wide

[misty dew]

[tardy rain]

These guys refuse to have sex to keep their species alive

[harsh tundra]

I said so, lol

[tardy rain]

Honestly amazed people still spend money on them

[harsh tundra]

this part:

despite thinking pandas (not red pandas) are abomination... I mean, how tf did they survive eating bamboo only while being a bear, still with bear teeth? maybe when there were a lot of them, but they're just eating for the whole day and pandas in breeding programs didn't even want to reproduce, and one faked being pregnant to get more food, lol

[tardy rain]

Theyre the wildlife activism fraud

Yea its insane

So much effort to save a species that doesnt want to save itself

[harsh tundra]

yep. so the cards is the only thing that's making me team panda now XD

[tardy rain]

Pandas arent as cute as people draw them to be

[harsh tundra]

and Kim (author) being so adorable with her panda obsession...

[tardy rain]

Dumb lumps of bear meat
https://c.tenor.com/BMLP6BUuxNgAAAAM/panda-falling.gif

[harsh tundra]

that's why foxes ftw

and red pandas as honorary foxes, being original firefoxes

[tardy rain]

Yea foxes are ok

I approve

You ever hear foxes cry in the night?

[harsh tundra]

I know what does the fox say, but I don't think I heard it in real life - I live too far from woods, so only yt

foxes sounds being like baby cries or screams as if someone was being killed - really fun to hear at night in the woods, am I right? 😄

[honest pawn]

Whadyou expect?
They're basically children

[tardy rain]

Spank them till they take this conservation effort seriously