#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 542

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:28 AM

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each one is different

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:28 AM

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yes, each language is different.

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and everybody wants to feel special

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:29 AM

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C isn't getting along with these Cs

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:29 AM

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That's probably not the only motivation but it is definitely a motivation.

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:29 AM

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nice

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:29 AM

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C is ambivalent about them.

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:29 AM

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You know this website is kind of helpful

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probably helps for ~~chat~~ any kind of filter

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:29 AM

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It's just another day at the factory for C.

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:30 AM

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wtf does that file begin with

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!charinfo \ufeff

royal lakeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 9:30 AM

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Character Info

\u005c : REVERSE SOLIDUS - \
\u0075 : LATIN SMALL LETTER U - u
\u0066 : LATIN SMALL LETTER F - f
\u0065 : LATIN SMALL LETTER E - e
\u0066 : LATIN SMALL LETTER F - f
\u0066 : LATIN SMALL LETTER F - f

Full Raw Text

\u005c\u0075\u0066\u0065\u0066\u0066

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:30 AM

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argh

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:30 AM

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REVERSE SOLIDUS

rough sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 9:30 AM

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heyo

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:30 AM

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lol

rough sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 9:30 AM

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anyone speak spanish here?

royal lakeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 9:30 AM

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Missing required argument

characters

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:31 AM

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!charinfo ||

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Character Info

\u007c : VERTICAL LINE - |
\ufeff : ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE -
\u007c : VERTICAL LINE - |

Full Raw Text

\u007c\ufeff\u007c

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:31 AM

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there we go

rough sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 9:31 AM

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!charinfo poop

royal lakeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 9:31 AM

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You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:31 AM

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A file on the Unicode website begins with a weird unicode char 😩

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:31 AM

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You asked for it.

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:31 AM

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Speaking of Unicode

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‍

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:31 AM

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yeah, but right here?..

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:32 AM

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How do you um know that

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:32 AM

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me: "Unicode is like a dark and scary forest"; @gritty zinc : "Let's walk into the forest."

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:32 AM

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deep

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:32 AM

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!charinfo ‍

royal lakeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 9:32 AM

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You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:32 AM

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ouchy

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:32 AM

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L

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:32 AM

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We're not privileged.

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:32 AM

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thats what u get for not being helper

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:33 AM

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#bot-commands message

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:33 AM

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Now you see the violence inherent in the system.

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:33 AM

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\😩

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:33 AM

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is there a way to type characters by their unicode codepoints

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:33 AM

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Emoji are so weird

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you can combine emoji using a ‍

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:33 AM

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like the U+ codes

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:33 AM

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Yes, I don't know if I like emoji.

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@inland wolf What would that even mean?

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:34 AM

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inland wolf is there a way to type characters by their unicode codepoints

use python

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smh

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:34 AM

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♂️‍🏻

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oh I broke it

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:35 AM

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fresh basalt <@!398429963990335489> What would that even mean?

i want to type characters by their U+ codes, like if i enter U+0075 it will become u

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or seomething similar

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:36 AM

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👨‍👩‍👦

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AHA it worked

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:36 AM

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bruh

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:36 AM

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:man:<ZWJ>:woman:<ZWJ>:boy:

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<ZWJ> is ‍

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:37 AM

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@inland wolf In Windows you can do the alt + number

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:37 AM

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👨‍🧑‍🦰

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:38 AM

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@inland wolf I don't know if that's just cp437 or if you have to fiddle with it

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:38 AM

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🦰

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:38 AM

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its not the same number tho

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like

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:38 AM

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lol what the heck. why is 🦰 a thing

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:38 AM

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02554 is ú

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:38 AM

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glorious

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:38 AM

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is that the unicode codepoint for it?

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:38 AM

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gritty zinc glorious

bruh

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:39 AM

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ConfusedReptile is halfway to the zalgo filter

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:39 AM

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gritty zinc glorious

Did you just program this?

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:41 AM

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yeah

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ᴄ໐𝞹𝔣𝞾𝑠𝑎𝑏𝖑𝕖𝒔﹏￨𝘪𝑛𝕖𝘴 ꓿ 𝞼𝟈ҽ𝘯［"ᴄ𞸤𝕟ſ𝓊𝘴𝗮𝖇ﺍꬲ𝗌ꓸ𝗍𝑥𝙩"٫𝓮𝞹𝙘ە𝖉ιπ𝔤꓿"𝞄𝛕𝚏‑ଃ"❩܁ꭈ𝗲𝓪𝔡〔❳۰𝘀𝗉𝙡Ꭵ𝚝❲"
"﴿
m𝞪𝐩𝞀𝝸ռ𝗴 ⹀ 𝒸𝜎ا𐌠е𝓬𝒕𝜾൦𝚗ｓꓸ𝒹℮ꞙ𝙖ꭎ𝕀𝑡ⅾɩⅽ𝑡［𝕴𝖎𝓼𝗍］
ք௦ꭇ 𝟭⍳𝝿𝖾 ɩп 𝖼𑣈𝜋ſ𝓊ƽ𝙖𝕓𝗹𝐞𝕤ߺ|𝐢𝞏℮𝘀׃
    ו𝚒ո𝓮 ゠ 𞺀𝝸𝜛𝕖٠𝖘𝗍𝗋𝓲𝓹❲❩
    𝒊𝗳 𝒍𝗶ռ𝗲꘎𝚜𝘁𝒶𝖗𝑡ꜱwⅈ𝞽ｈ〔"#"﴿ ໐𝓇 𝛡ە𝚝 ￨ͺᴨꬲ∶
        𝖼𝞂𝓷𝐭⍳𝚗ц𝖾
    𝐩𝖺𝐫𝗍𝕤 ꓿ ⅼͺ𝛡𝐞․ѕｐ𐌠ι𝖙❲";"〕
    𝘪𝘧 𝕀ℯᴨ［𝐩ａ𝐫𝜏𝕤］‹Ꙅː
        𝝆𝘳𝛊𝜛𝜏〔ẝ"Ｓϰ𝔦𝚙ｐӏ𝓃ցઃ𝄔𝚛ℯ𝔭𝙧〔𝗜ι𝝕𝖾］❵"❩
        𝙘໐𝗻𝞽𝐢ϖս𝓮
    τᴦ𑣜ઃ
        𝙛𝚛ﮩmߺ𝒄һ𝖺𝗿؍ 𝘁ｏ﹎𝗰𝕙𝚊ᴦ ꓿ mɑ𝞺〔Ⲓ𝖆m𝘣𝕕𝜶 ƽ܃ ꙇ𝔫𝓉〔𝘴܂𝓼𝐭𝓻ⅰ𝝔❲﴿؍1𑣕❩٫𝙥ɑ𝑟τ𝔰[⁚𝟐]〕
    𝖾⤫𝑐𝘦ρ𝘵 𝚅⍺￨𝒖𝕖ꓰ𝒓ᴦﻪⲅ׃
        𝒑𝔯ɪϖ𝑡❨𝔣"𝗦кі⍴𝙥𝜾𝑛𝘨 𝄔ρａᴦ𝒕𝖘[᛬𝟤]❵ 𝐝𝑢𝖾 𝘵௦ 𝓃օ𝜏 𝒃𝘦іпɡ 𝚊ᏏI𝒆 𝚝𝒐 𝗰०𝜛𝓋𝖾𝑟𝔱 𝘵𞺄 𝔦𝐧𝙩𝕤𐩐"］
        ｃ௦𝕟𝗍𝐢𝗇𝒖ꬲ
    mɑр𝚙ı𝛑𝓰[𝚝ﻬ﹎𝚌հ𝓪ꭇ]܂𝕒𝞎𝗽𝐞𝛡𝖽❲𝑓𝓇𝜊m﹎ϲ𝓱𝚊𝓇〕

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:41 AM

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btw there was a more updated one

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:41 AM

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And here's the code I used to do it!

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:41 AM

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oh my

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:41 AM

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gritty zinc ```py ᴄ໐𝞹𝔣𝞾𝑠𝑎𝑏𝖑𝕖𝒔﹏￨𝘪𝑛𝕖𝘴 ꓿ 𝞼𝟈ҽ𝘯［"ᴄ𞸤𝕟ſ𝓊𝘴𝗮𝖇ﺍꬲ𝗌ꓸ𝗍𝑥𝙩"٫𝓮𝞹�...

oh god

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:41 AM

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https://www.unicode.org/Public/security/13.0.0/confusables.txt

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:42 AM

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inland wolf 02554 is ú

lol I am using Firefox to search through a list of unicode and Firefox is matching ú to u.

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:42 AM

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it butchers even string literals, though

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:42 AM

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how does it lok for u guys

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:42 AM

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and keywords

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:42 AM

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fresh basalt lol I am using Firefox to search through a list of unicode and Firefox is matchi...

i see

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:42 AM

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but, hmm

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:42 AM

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acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:42 AM

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inland wolf how does it lok for u guys

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:42 AM

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lemme do hypothesis real fast and see if it is always reversible

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:42 AM

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Will Python do work on that?

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my guess is no

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 9:43 AM

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i doubt it will 👀

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:43 AM

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of course not, keywords are broken

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:43 AM

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you should make it ignore keywords

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:43 AM

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I certainly should

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but that's hard

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:43 AM

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gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:43 AM

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I wonder if maybe I should be working with the AST and not the source code

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 9:43 AM

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lol

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:43 AM

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acoustic moss

perfect

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:43 AM

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lol

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:44 AM

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I wanna mess with this too D:

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Time to install PyCharm Professional

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and build my own dict

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:45 AM

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gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:46 AM

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oh dear, the mapping isn't many-to-one, it's many-to-many

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:46 AM

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This is gonna get messy, isn't it

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:46 AM

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that means it's not reversible. whoops

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:46 AM

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@inland wolf your character is here: https://unicode-table.com/en/00FA/

ú - Latin Small Letter U with Acute: U+00FA uacute

Symbol: ú, Name of the character: latin small letter u with acute, Unicode number for the sign: U+00FA, the icon is included in the block: Latin-1 Supplement.

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:47 AM

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gritty zinc oh dear, the mapping isn't many-to-one, it's many-to-many

what
how does something that looks like a also look b

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:47 AM

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magic

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:47 AM

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ok

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:47 AM

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acoustic moss what how does something that looks like `a` also look `b`

0 looks like O, apparently 😩

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both are ascii chars

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:47 AM

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oh wait

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what the heck

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0 vs 0

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:48 AM

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I should probably remove mappings between ascii chars

craggy helm Apr 5, 2021, 9:48 AM

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Can I ask an off-topic question? grumpchib

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:48 AM

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yes this is off-topic

craggy helm Apr 5, 2021, 9:48 AM

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I want to set a password on a usb but I have Windows 10 home
Do you know how I could do this?

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D,:

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:49 AM

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gritty zinc `0` looks like `O`, apparently 😩

oh well
fair enough

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:49 AM

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aaaaaaaa

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okay, hypothesis is far too good at breaking my code lol

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>>> decode("\xa0")
' '

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why the hell

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:50 AM

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oh my

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:50 AM

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wait, that's fine

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my test is just wrong

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it should be only ASCII chars in the input

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yay, making it only choose from string.printable fixes it!

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:51 AM

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craggy helm I want to set a password on a usb but I have Windows 10 home Do you know how I c...

You want to encrypt a usb filesystem in Windows 10?

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@inland wolf Are you using Windows and if so what codepage are you using?

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:52 AM

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с𝐨𝜋𝚏𝚞𝓼𝛼𝑏𝖨𝑒𝐬﹏𝗹ꙇℼҽѕ ᐀ ہ𝘱𝙚ᴨ［"𝖈ﮦ𝖓𝚏𑣘𑣁𝝰ЬＩҽｓ۰𝘵𝔁𝓽"؍ⅇ𝞹ᴄ٥𝚍⍳𝛑ᶃ゠"𝘂т𝕗‐৪"〕܂𝓻𝑒⍺𝐝❲］ꓸｓ𝑝𝚕𝙞𝘵［"⧵𝝿"❳
m𝔞𝑝𝐩𝐢𝐧𝒈 ゠ 𝔠൦𝖑Ι𝓮ᴄ𝚝ιﮩռƽ܂𝒅℮𝒻𝛂ᴜｌ𝓽𝖽𝐢с𝐭❨ℑι𐑈𝜏〕
𝓯𝛔𝚛 𝚰ｉ𝗇𝓮 𝒊𝜛 𝒸𞸤𝗇𝒇𝛖𝗌𝙖𝓫וｅꜱߺℐ⍳𝘯ⅇ𝘀׃
    𝓘𝚒𝐧𝚎 ꓿ 𝚕𝙞𝝿𝖾۰𝒔ᴛꭇ𝒾𝘱〔〕
    𝐢𝒻 𝗅𝜾𝝕𝓮𝅭𝕤𝐭𝓪𝖗𝖙𝓈w𝓲тհ❨"#"］ ｏ𝓻 ᴨ𑣈𝝉 ℐ𝚤𝚗ꬲ։
        𝙘ⲟℼ𝕥і𝝅ᴜ𝑒
    ⍴𝞪𝓇𝞃𐑈 ꓿ 𝔩𝚤𝗻𝚎𝅭𝘀𝗽𝕀ɩ𝒕［";"﴿
    𑣃𝕗 𝒍𝖊𝐧［рα𝗿τ𝑠❩‹Ꝛ᠉
        𝗉𝓻𝒊𝟉𝘵〔ք"Տϰ𝜾ｐ𝛠ｉᴨ𝙜ઃ𝄔𝗋𝗲𝝆𝗋﴾𝓘𝗂ℼ𝘦〕❵"〕
        𝙘𝝾𝟉𝞃ɩϖυ𝑒
    𝓽𝙧𝗒⁚
        𝘧𝑟ంm﹍𝓬Ꮒ𝞪гꓹ τჿ﹍𝗰հ𝗮𝑟 ⹀ m𝑎𝒑〔ｌ𝚊m𝖻ᑯ𝖆 𝗌᠃ Ꭵ𝞹𝚝﴾𝙨܁𝖘𝝉𝔯𝞲ρ❨］ꓹ1𝟼〕¸𝜌𝘢𝓻𝜏𝖘[：𝟐]❩
    𝖾𝙭ᴄꬲ𝗽𝑡 𝓥𝖆𝚕𝙪℮𝕰𝐫𝒓ﮨ𝑟᛬
        𝒑𝔯ι𝑛𝒕❲ք"𝓢𝓀𝝸𝚙𝓅𝘪𝜋𝗴 ❴𝝔𝓪ⲅ𝗍𝐬[܃Ꝛ]❵ 𝒹𝖚𝑒 𝙩𑣈 𝝅𝝈τ 𝓫𝘦𝜄𝛑𝗀 𝗮𝖇Іℯ 𝓉ﻩ с๐π∨𝘦гᴛ 𝘵𑣗 𝙞𝜋𝝉𝔰۰"❳
        𝖈ｏ𝐧𝗍Ꭵ𝑛𝒖℮
    m𝘢𝒑𝘱𝜾𝚗𝔤[𝖙ﻫߺⅽһ𝘢𝗋]․𝛼𝝆𝓅𝐞𝚗ⅾ﴾𝙛𝑟𝘰mߺ𝙘հ𝛂ᴦ﴿

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this transformation is fully reversible

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yay, obfuscation.

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:53 AM

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thanks for using the py syntax highlighting, really makes it clearer!

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:53 AM

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ConfusedReptile is a helper after all

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:53 AM

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indeed

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 9:54 AM

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oh god lol, it replaces n with 𝝿

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\𝝿 for line breaks

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perfect

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 9:54 AM

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yes

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:54 AM

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for some definition of perfect

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 9:56 AM

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lolll. yeah it was the situation at that particular day tho

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:56 AM

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def clean(f: TextIO) -> str:
    lines = f.readlines()
    valid = []
    for line in lines:
        line = line.strip()

        if len(line) == 0:
            continue
        elif line[0] == '#':
            continue
        else:
            valid.append(line)

    return "\n".join(valid)

oh yes... progress

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:57 AM

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There is a format for the offtopic channels?

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 9:57 AM

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latent scaffold ```py def clean(f: TextIO) -> str: lines = f.readlines() valid = [] ...

I do comments with " 😎

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 9:58 AM

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lol

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I'm converting https://www.unicode.org/Public/security/13.0.0/confusables.txt to something I can use

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clean() removes lines that I can't use

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 9:58 AM

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I write really_long_descriptive_identifier_names

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:00 AM

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cool

📎 ppast.py

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:00 AM

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It doesn't look like Python has code filters like Perl does.

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:00 AM

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it looks like I can totally obfuscate the code on the AST level

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though, hmm, can it be converted back afterwards?..

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:02 AM

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How did you generate that?

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 10:02 AM

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fresh basalt <@!398429963990335489> your character is here: https://unicode-table.com/en/00FA...

aha

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 10:02 AM

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fresh basalt <@!398429963990335489> Are you using Windows and if so what codepage are you usi...

codepage?

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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fresh basalt How did you generate that?

ppast(code), where ppast is from prettiest_ast import ppast, where prettiest_ast is

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!pypi prettiest_ast

royal lakeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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prettiest-ast v0.0.1.dev4

a pretty printer for abstract syntax trees

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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(made by salt_die, btw)

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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Thank you.

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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it uses the builtin ast package

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the library is just for printing it very prettily

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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@inland wolf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_437

Code page 437

Code page 437 (CCSID 437) is the character set of the original IBM PC (personal computer). It is also known as CP437, OEM-US, OEM 437, PC-8, or DOS Latin US. The set includes all printable ASCII characters, extended codes for accented letters (diacritics), some Greek letters, icons, and line-drawing symbols. It is sometimes referred to as the "O...

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 10:03 AM

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gritty zinc (made by salt_die, btw)

damn

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idk which one im using

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:04 AM

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probably 437 then

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 10:05 AM

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lol

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perhaps

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:05 AM

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I don't know how/why you got that value for that character.

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 10:05 AM

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same

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:08 AM

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hmm

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looks like it can be done indeed

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I'll start by mangling all variable names

wheat lynx Apr 5, 2021, 10:10 AM

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ast.unparse in python 3.9!

rough sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 10:11 AM

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hey wookie

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how you been

wheat lynx Apr 5, 2021, 10:11 AM

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i've been good thanks

rough sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 10:11 AM

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I seem to have lost my admin privileges, hook me up

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:11 AM

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wheat lynx `ast.unparse` in python 3.9!

I'm using astunparse, close enough 🙂

wheat lynx Apr 5, 2021, 10:12 AM

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rough sapphire I seem to have lost my admin privileges, hook me up

Ah, are you joe and you've just lost your account or something.

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:12 AM

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def rec_search(node):
    result = {type(node)}
    if hasattr(node,"body"):
        for child in node.body:
            result.update(rec_search(child))
    return result
>>> rec_search(tree)
{<class '_ast.Module'>, <class '_ast.Expr'>, <class '_ast.Assign'>, <class '_ast.If'>, <class '_ast.Try'>, <class '_ast.Continue'>, <class '_ast.For'>}

so these are all the nodes I need to learn to handle, hmm

rough sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 10:12 AM

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yes, lets go with that

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:12 AM

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Well, I've got a map

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ASCII characters and their lookalikes

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:13 AM

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does it lead to treasure?

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:13 AM

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async def main():
    with open("input.txt", "r") as f:
        t = clean(f)
    entries = isolate(t)
    char_map = generate_map(entries)

    with open("output.json", "w+") as f:
        json.dump(char_map, f, indent=4)

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remove unneeded lines, create parsable entries, make a map from them

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:21 AM

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https://pythondiscord.com/pages/frequently-asked-questions/ has a typo :P

Python Discord | Frequently Asked Questions

We're a large, friendly community focused around the Python programming language. Our community is open to those who wish to learn the language, as well as those looking to help others.

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"be come" should be become

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</pedant>

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:28 AM

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Oh wow, my script works

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𝜯𝐡𝕖 𝓆𝞾ι𝑐𝐤 𝔟ᴦ೦ա𝘯 𝒇ഠ𝚡 𝐣𝞾m𝞎𝘀 ‎𞹤‎𝝼ℯꭈ𝑡𝗵℮ ‎ߊ‎𝖺𝒛𑣜𝕕𝖔𝕘‎܁‎

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it's a little bit um ugly

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 10:29 AM

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nice

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:29 AM

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neat, make it accept --pretty and --ugly arguments

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:30 AM

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lol

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fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:30 AM

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good job

modest meteor Apr 5, 2021, 10:31 AM

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should u use sudo apt install or apt-get

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:31 AM

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apt install in the shell, and apt-get in a script

modest meteor Apr 5, 2021, 10:32 AM

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graceful basin apt install in the shell, and apt-get in a script

I don't understand what install in the shell means

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:32 AM

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when typing it into the terminal, you use apt

rough sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 10:32 AM

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first you have to find a turtle

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:32 AM

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but when making a file that is run automatically, you should use apt-get

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:32 AM

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apt is higher-level

modest meteor Apr 5, 2021, 10:33 AM

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I've been using apt-get, thought that was the only command out there

modest meteor Apr 5, 2021, 10:33 AM

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graceful basin but when making a file that is run automatically, you should use apt-get

thanks for the clarification

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:33 AM

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apt is newer

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:33 AM

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apt is just a higher level wrapper.. all I've ever been able to notice is color

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lol

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:33 AM

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but you should definitely never use apt nor apt-get on any non-Debian-based Linux distribution.

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:bigbrain:

modest meteor Apr 5, 2021, 10:34 AM

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I didn't even know you could

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:34 AM

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you really can't, I don't think

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not that it's worth trying

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:34 AM

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you can install apt anywhere afaik, but it is unlikely to work

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:34 AM

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lol idk how to improve my script

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:34 AM

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you're right but I was joking

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:34 AM

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make it work with code?

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nah sounds like too much work

craggy helm Apr 5, 2021, 10:35 AM

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fresh basalt You want to encrypt a usb filesystem in Windows 10?

Yeah, that's what I want to do. I have the home version of W10

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:35 AM

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I think that's what confusedreptile is trying to do

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:35 AM

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lol I'm kind of proud of the code for this

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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I had a silly idea that you could make the pretty/ugly versions

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easy way would be to divide the unicode stuff into pretty and ugly sets

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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welp, now my AST tree recursive editor crashes Python

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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https://paste.pythondiscord.com/mogejidino.py

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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not even an exception

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:36 AM

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@gritty zinc level up

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:37 AM

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I had this script only keep characters that map to ascii

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:37 AM

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oh

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:38 AM

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hi

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:38 AM

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I might have it remove duplicates, so it's possible to convert back to ascii

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:38 AM

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I had a silly idea to generate a weighted tree of ugliest to prettiest unicode characters and figure out how to pick from that

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:38 AM

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also some symbols don't have maps

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like m

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:39 AM

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oh yiss

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:39 AM

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duckduckgo tells me that's macy's stock ticker symbol

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:39 AM

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I need some text to test this on

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:39 AM

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𝒸ｏ𝘯ſᴜ𝕤𝕒Ƅ𝖑𝒆𝑠ߺℓℹπⅇｓ = ം𝛒ҽ𝞹('confusables.txt', encoding='utf-8').read().split('\n')
m𝗮𝓅рⅰ𝞹ɡ = 𝐜௦𝟙ℓⅇ𝖈ᴛӏ𞸤𝒏𝓈.defaultdict(𝖑𝗶𝘀𝗍)
for 𞺀ӏ𝙣𝓮 in 𝒸ｏ𝘯ſᴜ𝕤𝕒Ƅ𝖑𝒆𝑠ߺℓℹπⅇｓ:
    𞺀ӏ𝙣𝓮 = 𞺀ӏ𝙣𝓮.strip()
    if (𞺀ӏ𝙣𝓮.startswith('#') or (not 𞺀ӏ𝙣𝓮)):
        continue
    𝑝𝓪𝗋𝜏𝖘 = 𞺀ӏ𝙣𝓮.split(';')
    if (ا𝑒𝛡(𝑝𝓪𝗋𝜏𝖘) < 2):
        𝓹𝗋𝖎𝓃𝘵(f'Skipping:{гꬲ𝜚𝔯(𞺀ӏ𝙣𝓮)}')
        continue
    try:
        (𝔣𝗋𝓸mߺᴄ𝕙𝑎𝐫, 𝗍𞹤﹏𝒸𝕙𝕒г) = m𝑎𝗉((lambda s: 𝔦𝙣𝕥(ꜱ.strip(), 16)), 𝑝𝓪𝗋𝜏𝖘[:2])
    except 𝗩𝕒𝜤𝑢𝓮𝘌𝐫𝗿ჿ𝑟:
        𝓹𝗋𝖎𝓃𝘵(f'Skipping {𝑝𝓪𝗋𝜏𝖘[:2]} due to not being able to convert to ints.')
        continue
    m𝗮𝓅рⅰ𝞹ɡ[𝗍𞹤﹏𝒸𝕙𝕒г].append(𝔣𝗋𝓸mߺᴄ𝕙𝑎𝐫)

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muahahaha

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:39 AM

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:o

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:39 AM

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that's better

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 10:39 AM

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better

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:40 AM

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only names are mangled, and the mangling is consistent

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like, it remembers what it changed map to and uses the same name each time

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sadly, I haven't yet made it to not mangle builtins at all

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I want it to remain valid code, you see.

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:40 AM

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literally unusable

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:P

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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  File "<ipython-input-31-86a5ce3b1699>", line 1
    𝒸ｏ𝘯ſᴜ𝕤𝕒Ƅ𝖑𝒆𝑠ߺℓℹπⅇｓ = ം𝛒ҽ𝞹('confusables.txt', encoding='utf-8').read().split('\n')
                           ^
SyntaxError: invalid character in identifier

aww

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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lol

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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which one, I wonder

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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I think the first

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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!charinfo ം

royal lakeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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Character Info

\u0d02 : MALAYALAM SIGN ANUSVARA - ം

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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this thing

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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yeah

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:41 AM

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it's one char, and Python doesn't like it

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:42 AM

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SyntaxError: invalid character 'ം' (U+0D02)

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lol something is up with that symbol

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:43 AM

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royal lake

omggg my native language

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:43 AM

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This just in, Python declares war on Malayali language.

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:43 AM

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tree = ast.parse(code)
rec_tree_change(tree)
trans_code = astunparse.unparse(tree)
exec(trans_code)

now I get automated syntax errors

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  File "<string>", line 3
    mａϱ𝘱˛𝜋𝙜 = 𝐜ﮧᛁ𝟣ꬲ𝑐𝒕𝔦ﻪ𝟉ѕ.defaultdict(𝚰ɪ𝓼ᴛ)
          ^
SyntaxError: invalid character in identifier

a new one each time

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hmm

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:44 AM

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fresh basalt This just in, Python declares war on Malayali language.

malayalam*

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:44 AM

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!otn a automated syntax errors

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:44 AM

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twin charm malayalam*

sorry, I guess Malayali is the name for the people?

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:45 AM

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A person who speaks Malayalam is known as a Malayali.

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:45 AM

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it's the a

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I think I know how you can check if a char is invalid

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I noticed that if you size them, they have a size of 76

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:46 AM

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its a palindrome too which is interesting.
!e

print("malayalam"[::-1])

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:46 AM

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In [12]: 'ａ'.__sizeof__()
Out[12]: 76

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:46 AM

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you could do

try:
    ast.parse(character)
except SyntaxError:
    pass
``` to check if it is a valid indentifier char

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:46 AM

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In [6]: 'ം'.__sizeof__()
Out[6]: 76

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 10:46 AM

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graceful basin you could do ```py try: ast.parse(character) except SyntaxError: pass ``...

is except SytnaxError a thing

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:46 AM

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yes

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:46 AM

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yeah

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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latent scaffold ```py In [6]: 'ം'.__sizeof__() Out[6]: 76 ```

hmm, set(c.__sizeof__() for c in string.printable) is {50, 54}

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so maybe it'd work

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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doesn't python tell all the syntax errors before you can run the program?

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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latent scaffold ```py In [6]: 'ം'.__sizeof__() Out[6]: 76 ```

wait what does this mean?

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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lemme throw away 76 and see if that works

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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wise schooner doesn't python tell all the syntax errors before you can run the program?

while running too r8.

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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Is 'മലയാളം' a palindrome too?

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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fresh basalt Is 'മലയാളം' a palindrome too?

Nope

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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wise schooner doesn't python tell all the syntax errors before you can run the program?

yup, but you can run the compiler at runtime, so it raise a SyntaxError then

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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twin charm wait what does this mean?

size in bytes of an object

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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in english, its a palindrome

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:47 AM

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latent scaffold size in bytes of an object

oh.

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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@twin charm Languages in India are fun.

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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graceful basin yup, but you can run the compiler at runtime, so it raise a SyntaxError then

ah

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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fresh basalt Is 'മലയാളം' a palindrome too?

the letters be like
ma la ya lum

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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fresh basalt <@!785425328033103872> Languages in India are fun.

too many

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oh my goodness.

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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@latent scaffold some 80-sized ones don't work either

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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idk

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I guess more than 10

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 10:48 AM

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gritty zinc <@!235904856106336257> some `80`-sized ones don't work either

oh well lol. worth a try

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:49 AM

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!e

try:
    eval("\N{CUCUMBER}")
except SyntaxError:
    print('cannot eval cucumber')

royal lakeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 10:49 AM

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@graceful basin :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

cannot eval cucumber

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:49 AM

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Wikipedia says there are 22 scheduled languages in India.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:49 AM

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fresh basalt Wikipedia says there are 22 scheduled languages in India.

ohk

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 10:49 AM

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OH, using eval, exec and such? yeah got it

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 10:49 AM

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there's literally hundreds of unofficial ones

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:49 AM

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acoustic moss there's literally hundreds of unofficial ones

many are dead after British came right

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:50 AM

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but the "official" language (in quotes because there's no official language) for legal stuff is Hindi in Devanagari

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:50 AM

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Mhm.

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 10:50 AM

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most of the legal stuff is in English.. i mean... they have hindi translations too ~~but they don't use it much~~

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:50 AM

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that's handy

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:50 AM

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yep

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:50 AM

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oh!

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NameError: name 'סρꬲn' is not defined

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new error!

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:50 AM

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eh

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:51 AM

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is my code...syntactically correct? OMG

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:51 AM

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What a great way to waste a day lol.

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:51 AM

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ⲥ𑣗𝗻ẝ𝘂ꜱ𝖺𝖇Ι𝕖𝓈﹏𝔩𝐢𝑛ꬲ𐑈 = ס𝜚ꬲ𝚗('confusables.txt', encoding='utf-8').read().split('\n')
mａ𝝆𝚙𝓲π𝗴 = 𝒸ᴑ𝛪𝗅℮𝑐𝓉𝛊ہℼｓ.defaultdict(Ｉɩ𝑠𝜏)
for ǀ𝜄𝐧𝓮 in ⲥ𑣗𝗻ẝ𝘂ꜱ𝖺𝖇Ι𝕖𝓈﹏𝔩𝐢𝑛ꬲ𐑈:
    ǀ𝜄𝐧𝓮 = ǀ𝜄𝐧𝓮.strip()
    if (ǀ𝜄𝐧𝓮.startswith('#') or (not ǀ𝜄𝐧𝓮)):
        continue
    𝛠𝘢𝚛𝓉𝚜 = ǀ𝜄𝐧𝓮.split(';')
    if (ﺍҽ𝜋(𝛠𝘢𝚛𝓉𝚜) < 2):
        𝕡ᴦɩ𝝕τ(f'Skipping:{𝑟е𝗽𝗋(ǀ𝜄𝐧𝓮)}')
        continue
    try:
        (𝗳гﮨm﹎𝖼ℎ𝗮𝚛, 𝜏ⲟ﹎𐐽հ𝕒𝖗) = m𝜶𝗽((lambda s: 𝚒𝜋ᴛ(𑣁.strip(), 16)), 𝛠𝘢𝚛𝓉𝚜[:2])
    except ꓦ𝐚ﺎ𝓾𝑒ℰ𝚛ⲅᴏᴦ:
        𝕡ᴦɩ𝝕τ(f'Skipping {𝛠𝘢𝚛𝓉𝚜[:2]} due to not being able to convert to ints.')
        continue
    mａ𝝆𝚙𝓲π𝗴[𝜏ⲟ﹎𐐽հ𝕒𝖗].append(𝗳гﮨm﹎𝖼ℎ𝗮𝚛)

poggers

wheat lynx Apr 5, 2021, 10:51 AM

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graceful basin !e ```py try: eval("\N{CUCUMBER}") except SyntaxError: print('cannot eva...

ooooh, didn't even know \N{} was a thing. Neat

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 10:51 AM

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twin charm many are dead after British came right

🤔
of all the things the British did i don't think they killed off languages

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:51 AM

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no syntax errors

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 10:52 AM

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maybe they did

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idrk

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not a history guy

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:52 AM

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acoustic moss 🤔 of all the things the British did i don't think they killed off languages

what about standardising English in all schools? like.. as the medium of speaking in schools

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:52 AM

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acoustic moss 🤔 of all the things the British did i don't think they killed off languages

if you urbanize and kill the natives, you are killing languages.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:52 AM

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that made way for local languages to die

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:52 AM

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I mean, not to get into the weeds but if you exterminate a people then you get rid of their language.

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 10:52 AM

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fair

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:53 AM

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Here in the US there were native american boarding schools meant to "civilize" the native population.

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 10:53 AM

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~~i still think english is easier than hindi~~

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:53 AM

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I bet that if I wouldn't know English as I know today if it weren't for the British

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:53 AM

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wise schooner ~~i still think english is easier than hindi~~

totally.

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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I think if it weren't for the British a lot of countries wouldn't have independence days to celebrate.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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fresh basalt Here in the US there were native american boarding schools meant to "civilize" t...

yert

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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to be fair, even if the natives didn't get exterminated it is still likely the languages would die. Globalisation is not kind to local languages

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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fresh basalt I think if it weren't for the British a lot of countries wouldn't have independe...

Thanks a lot, Britain!

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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fresh basalt I think if it weren't for the British a lot of countries wouldn't have independe...

which would remove a holiday every year lemon_sentimental

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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oh shit my code actually ran

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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lol

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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wise schooner which would remove a holiday every year <:lemon_sentimental:754441881743786104>

hahah

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:54 AM

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𝗰օ𝛑ꬵц𝓈𝞪𝐛𝕴𝓮ƽ﹎𝗅ι𝘯℮𝐬 = open('confusables.txt', encoding='utf-8').read().split('\n')
m𝜶𝛒𝛠𝚒𝜛ｇ = collections.defaultdict(list)
for 𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊 in 𝗰օ𝛑ꬵц𝓈𝞪𝐛𝕴𝓮ƽ﹎𝗅ι𝘯℮𝐬:
    𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊 = 𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊.strip()
    if (𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊.startswith('#') or (not 𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊)):
        continue
    𝛠𝒶ꭈ𝓉ѕ = 𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊.split(';')
    if (𝑙𝖊𝕟(𝛠𝒶ꭈ𝓉ѕ) < 2):
        print(f'Skipping:{𝓇𝗲𝗉𝖗(𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊)}')
        continue
    try:
        (𝙛𝑟౦m﹏𝚌𝒽𝞪𝕣, 𝞃𝜎﹎ⅽ𝙝𝝰𝓻) = m𝕒𝐩((lambda s: int(𝐬.strip(), 16)), 𝛠𝒶ꭈ𝓉ѕ[:2])
    except 𝓥𝛂Ιᴜ𝖊𝑬𝐫𝘳𝐨𝓻:
        print(f'Skipping {𝛠𝒶ꭈ𝓉ѕ[:2]} due to not being able to convert to ints.')
        continue
    m𝜶𝛒𝛠𝚒𝜛ｇ[𝞃𝜎﹎ⅽ𝙝𝝰𝓻].append(𝙛𝑟౦m﹏𝚌𝒽𝞪𝕣)

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this basically works, only problem is that 𝓥𝛂Ιᴜ𝖊𝑬𝐫𝘳𝐨𝓻

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:55 AM

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😳

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 10:55 AM

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lemme add it to the exceptions too..

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:55 AM

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I think it would be funnier if it only used characters that are normalized to the same letters and just rerolled every identifier

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so you couldn't even tell which identifiers are the same

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:56 AM

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graceful basin to be fair, even if the natives didn't get exterminated it is still likely the l...

I remember talking to a linguist who was in papua new guinea to preserve a local language that was dying out. It was a small tribe and they basically were just not repopulating at a sustainable rate.

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:57 AM

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yeah, most languages will die in a few dozen years

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:57 AM

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just like the bees

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:57 AM

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Mhm.

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 10:57 AM

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even programming languages? lemon_sentimental

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

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funnily enough, probably yes

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

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rip python is 12 years...

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

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not in 12 years

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but in 60 ish

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

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Perl has been dying for ages.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

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what about cobol

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

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yeah, PLs die slowly

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

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COBOL will live out of spite.

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

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twin charm what about cobol

still not dead

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

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like the emperor in the Dark Crystal

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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acoustic moss still not dead

srslly?

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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yes

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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~~we might get PythonCoolerEdition 🤞 ~~

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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COBOL lives because there is no one who is willing to liable for writing bugs into something that gets rewritten from cobol

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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do people even use it

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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well, prolly not much for new code

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maintaining old stuff, however...

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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even new code

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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oof

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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wise schooner ~~we might get PythonCoolerEdition 🤞 ~~

PogthonBlazeit420

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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ok bye 👋 time for drinking tea 🥴

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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bye

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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fresh basalt PogthonBlazeit420

yes

carmine niche Apr 5, 2021, 10:59 AM

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fresh basalt COBOL will live out of spite.

i will also live out of spite

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:00 AM

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MS may be willing to sign that they are responsible for software bugs in ATMs, but they aren't willing to sign themselves for losses due to bugs in a rewrite of a COBOL codebase

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we need Ada 2 tbh

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:00 AM

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oh

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I did it

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:00 AM

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a language that is actually safe

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:00 AM

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gritty zinc I did it

you sure did

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:00 AM

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𝔠𝖔𝞏𝕗𝙪𑣁𝕒𝖇𝙸𝒆𝘀_𝗅𝛊𝝕𝑒𝐬 = open('confusables.txt', encoding='utf-8').read().split('\n')
m𝖺𝔭𝞀𝗂𝝕𝓰 = collections.defaultdict(list)
𝜄𝙣𝗏_m𝓪𝝆𝓹𝑖𝞹𝑔 = {}
for 𝚰𝚒𝛡𝐞 in 𝔠𝖔𝞏𝕗𝙪𑣁𝕒𝖇𝙸𝒆𝘀_𝗅𝛊𝝕𝑒𝐬:
    𝚰𝚒𝛡𝐞 = 𝚰𝚒𝛡𝐞.strip()
    if (𝚰𝚒𝛡𝐞.startswith('#') or (not 𝚰𝚒𝛡𝐞)):
        continue
    𝟈𝚊𝐫𝖙𝗌 = 𝚰𝚒𝛡𝐞.split(';')
    if (len(𝟈𝚊𝐫𝖙𝗌) < 2):
        print(f'Skipping:{repr(𝚰𝚒𝛡𝐞)}')
        continue
    try:
        (𝗳𝑟𝝈m_𝙘𝗁𝞪𝗿, 𝛕𐐬_𝖼𝗵𝛂𝓻) = m𝕒𝕡((lambda s: int(𝘀.strip(), 16)), 𝟈𝚊𝐫𝖙𝗌[:2])
    except ValueError:
        print(f'Skipping {𝟈𝚊𝐫𝖙𝗌[:2]} due to not being able to convert to ints.')
        continue
    if (𝑐𝗵𝓇(𝗳𝑟𝝈m_𝙘𝗁𝞪𝗿).__sizeof__() in (76,)):
        print(f'Skipping {𝗳𝑟𝝈m_𝙘𝗁𝞪𝗿} due to being sized {𝑐𝗵𝓇(𝗳𝑟𝝈m_𝙘𝗁𝞪𝗿).__sizeof__()}')
        continue
    if (𝗳𝑟𝝈m_𝙘𝗁𝞪𝗿 in (125127,)):
        continue
    if ((𝑐𝗵𝓇(𝛕𐐬_𝖼𝗵𝛂𝓻) in 𝓈𝔱𝑟𝒾𝓷𝘨.printable) ^ (𝑐𝗵𝓇(𝗳𝑟𝝈m_𝙘𝗁𝞪𝗿) in 𝓈𝔱𝑟𝒾𝓷𝘨.printable)):
        𝜄𝙣𝗏_m𝓪𝝆𝓹𝑖𝞹𝑔[𝗳𝑟𝝈m_𝙘𝗁𝞪𝗿] = 𝛕𐐬_𝖼𝗵𝛂𝓻
        m𝖺𝔭𝞀𝗂𝝕𝓰[𝛕𐐬_𝖼𝗵𝛂𝓻].append(𝗳𝑟𝝈m_𝙘𝗁𝞪𝗿)

this runs

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if you have the deps, at least

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 11:01 AM

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𝔠𝖔𝞏𝕗𝙪𑣁𝕒𝖇𝙸𝒆𝘀_𝗅𝛊𝝕𝑒𝐬

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:01 AM

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oh wait, map is scuffed, so it probably doesn't run the same

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but it runs

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 11:01 AM

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gritty zinc I did it

you were so preoccupied with whether or not you could that you didn't stop to think if you should.

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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carmine niche i will also live out of spite

I dunno. Spite is exhausting.

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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acoustic moss > you were so preoccupied with whether or not you could that you didn't stop to ...

you did it, you said the thing

carmine niche Apr 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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graceful basin a language that is actually safe

did you know that rust is a memory safe systems language with zero cost abstraction

carmine niche Apr 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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gritty zinc ```py 𝔠𝖔𝞏𝕗𝙪𑣁𝕒𝖇𝙸𝒆𝘀_𝗅𝛊𝝕𝑒𝐬 = open('confusables.txt', encoding='utf-...

good god what holy hellfire is this

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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ikr

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 11:02 AM

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gritty zinc ```py 𝗰օ𝛑ꬵц𝓈𝞪𝐛𝕴𝓮ƽ﹎𝗅ι𝘯℮𝐬 = open('confusables.txt', encoding='utf-8').re...

bruh

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:03 AM

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carmine niche did you know that rust is a memory safe systems language with zero cost abstract...

did you know that if you accidentally type <= instead of < in rust, you will get a panic at runtime about out of bounds acess

wheat lynx Apr 5, 2021, 11:03 AM

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!e ```python
print(m𝕒𝕡)

royal lakeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 11:03 AM

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@wheat lynx :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

<class 'map'>

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 11:03 AM

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bruh

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 11:03 AM

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graceful basin did you know that if you accidentally type <= instead of < in rust, you will get...

while indexing an array?

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 11:03 AM

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wheat lynx !e ```python print(m𝕒𝕡) ```

bruh

carmine niche Apr 5, 2021, 11:03 AM

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graceful basin did you know that if you accidentally type <= instead of < in rust, you will get...

wym

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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rust cannot ensure that you stay within bounds of a vector at compile time

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ada can

carmine niche Apr 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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ada has a cost

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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even if you take input?

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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I'm glad I don't understand what half the emojis here mean.

carmine niche Apr 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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ferrisOwO

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:04 AM

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costs don't matter

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safety does

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we are talking about banking software

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a bug is hundreds of millions, hardware is way less

carmine niche Apr 5, 2021, 11:05 AM

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meh

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abolish money

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problem solved

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:05 AM

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I think emojis are interesting because with Discord and Twitch there have sprung up unique emoji dialects.

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:05 AM

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how about hospital software

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:05 AM

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hii

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:05 AM

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bugs mean people die

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:05 AM

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@twin charm what happened to tea?

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 11:05 AM

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graceful basin ada can

how can you determine if it will cause an OOB at compile time? like... if i want to call the index from the user's input?

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:06 AM

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fresh basalt <@!785425328033103872> what happened to tea?

finished drinking ofc

carmine niche Apr 5, 2021, 11:06 AM

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graceful basin bugs mean people die

they seem to be doing just fine as it is

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:06 AM

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What tea do you drink?

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:06 AM

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hospitals use old, well tested codebases

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we are talking about how to modernize that

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:06 AM

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fresh basalt What tea do you drink?

wdym "what tea"? the normal one.

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:06 AM

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I drink basic bitch Lipton black tea. If I am feeling fancy I like green tea with hibiscus.

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:06 AM

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𝗰օ𝛑ꬵц𝓈𝞪𝐛𝕴𝓮ƽ﹎𝗅ι𝘯℮𝐬 = open('confusables.txt', encoding='utf-8').read().split('\n')
m𝜶𝛒𝛠𝚒𝜛ｇ = collections.defaultdict(list)
for 𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊 in 𝗰օ𝛑ꬵц𝓈𝞪𝐛𝕴𝓮ƽ﹎𝗅ι𝘯℮𝐬:
    𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊 = 𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊.strip()
    if (𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊.startswith('#') or (not 𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊)):
        continue
    𝛠𝒶ꭈ𝓉ѕ = 𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊.split(';')
    if (𝑙𝖊𝕟(𝛠𝒶ꭈ𝓉ѕ) < 2):
        print(f'Skipping:{𝓇𝗲𝗉𝖗(𞺀ꙇ𝛑𝖊)}')
        continue
    try:
        (𝙛𝑟౦m﹏𝚌𝒽𝞪𝕣, 𝞃𝜎﹎ⅽ𝙝𝝰𝓻) = m𝕒𝐩((lambda s: int(𝐬.strip(), 16)), 𝛠𝒶ꭈ𝓉ѕ[:2])
    except 𝓥𝛂Ιᴜ𝖊𝑬𝐫𝘳𝐨𝓻:
        print(f'Skipping {𝛠𝒶ꭈ𝓉ѕ[:2]} due to not being able to convert to ints.')
        continue
    m𝜶𝛒𝛠𝚒𝜛ｇ[𝞃𝜎﹎ⅽ𝙝𝝰𝓻].append(𝙛𝑟౦m﹏𝚌𝒽𝞪𝕣)

so that's it, I guess

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:06 AM

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wise schooner how can you determine if it will cause an OOB at compile time? like... if i want...

ada forces you to check and handle the erroring case.

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 11:06 AM

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ah

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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nim is trying to be ada 2, but has nonsense like null

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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nipples on bone apple tea

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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fresh basalt I drink basic bitch Lipton black tea. If I am feeling fancy I like green tea wit...

I think I drink black tea with milk.

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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nice

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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apple tea? damn

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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I really love tea and coffee.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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coffee is better imo

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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i drink skimmed milk with added cream

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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It depends on my mood.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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oh.

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:07 AM

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but generally I like coffee better.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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same.

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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sometimes i have alkaline water with lemon

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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I like tea too but I just drink it twice a day and now its 'meh'.

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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The funniest error I ever got was when 3 separate rust threads panicked at the same time, writing overlapping error messages.

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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lol

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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I was very confused

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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lol

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:08 AM

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graceful basin The funniest error I ever got was when 3 separate rust threads panicked at the s...

It's like that spiderman meme

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where they are all pointing at each other

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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panik

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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panik indeed

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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Is there a way to get a list of... things like str, int, chr

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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builtins?

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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!eval

print(len("hello"))

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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graceful basin The funniest error I ever got was when 3 separate rust threads panicked at the s...

lol

royal lakeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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twin charm !eval ``` print(len("hello")) ```

I dare you to run this

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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!e

import builtins
print(dir(builtins))

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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oof

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typo moment

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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lol

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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twin charm I dare you to run this

you used different unicode symbols?

royal lakeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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@graceful basin :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

['ArithmeticError', 'AssertionError', 'AttributeError', 'BaseException', 'BlockingIOError', 'BrokenPipeError', 'BufferError', 'BytesWarning', 'ChildProcessError', 'ConnectionAbortedError', 'ConnectionError', 'ConnectionRefusedError', 'ConnectionResetError', 'DeprecationWarning', 'EOFError', 'Ellipsis', 'EnvironmentError', 'Exception', 'False', 'FileExistsError', 'FileNotFoundError', 'FloatingPointError', 'FutureWarning', 'GeneratorExit', 'IOError', 'ImportError', 'ImportWarning', 'IndentationError', 'IndexError', 'InterruptedError', 'IsADirectoryError', 'KeyError', 'KeyboardInterrupt', 'LookupError', 'MemoryError', 'ModuleNotFoundError', 'NameError', 'None', 'NotADirectoryError', 'NotImplemented', 'NotImplementedError', 'OSError', 'OverflowError', 'PendingDeprecationWarning', 'PermissionError', 'ProcessLookupError', 'RecursionError', 'ReferenceError', 'ResourceWarning', 'RuntimeError', 'RuntimeWarning', 'StopAsyncIteration', 'StopIteration', 'SyntaxError', 'SyntaxWarning', 'SystemError
... (truncated - too long)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/fifalijobu.txt?noredirect

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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oh

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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__builtins__ 🤔

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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nice

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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wise schooner you used different unicode symbols?

yep

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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or just dir(__builtin__)

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 11:09 AM

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damn

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ArithmeticError is up there

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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twin charm I dare you to run this

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Haha, I'm glad I was on the Python Discord on the day the offtopic channel discovered Unicode.

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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jupyter even shows them

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:10 AM

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gritty zinc

loll

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zero width characters

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.topic

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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better than a zero depth character.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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wont work

snow pecan Apr 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

#

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Digital art by me

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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nice

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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nice.

spiral forge Apr 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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this

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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neat

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 11:11 AM

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naisu.

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neato

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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oh lord this is getting messy

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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what is?

snow pecan Apr 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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Thanks to all

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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futzing with Unicode probably.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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lol

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:12 AM

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I wonder if I can encode some haha funni code into unicode characters you can't display

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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Who can't display?

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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anyone

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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we.

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us.

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:13 AM

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or well, whatever the default font on discord is

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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hm.

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.topic

median domeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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**What is the oldest computer you've ever used?**

Suggest more topics here!

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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my father's from 2001

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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we had an IQ151 at our school

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 11:14 AM

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graceful basin or well, whatever the default font on discord is

whitney

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i think

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:15 AM

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that looks about right

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 11:15 AM

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graceful basin we had an IQ151 at our school

what is even that?

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:15 AM

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a very old computer

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:15 AM

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yeah no results when googling

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send a link pls

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:15 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_151

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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oh

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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those specs...

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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wheeze

32 KB RAM (later on 64 KB), 4 KB ROM

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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RAM is more than ROM lmao

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:16 AM

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still more than an arduino lul

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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loll

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.topic

median domeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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**What are your hobbies other than programming?**

Suggest more topics here!

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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baking

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:17 AM

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I like playing Badminton

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but its been a while since I played..

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Fuck you Covid-19

sincerely, Ankith

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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Fuck you Covid-19

sincerely, Everyone
FTFY

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:18 AM

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💯

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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this was a fun test(?) http://www.philosophyexperiments.com/health/Default.aspx

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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I wonder if ot1 has more activity than ot0 today

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:19 AM

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yeah lol

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not the usual state of ot channels.

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but hey, when a conversation starts... it keeps on going in the same channel.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:20 AM

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acoustic moss this was a fun test(?) http://www.philosophyexperiments.com/health/Default.aspx

lemme check..

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:21 AM

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def 𝔟𝘶𝐛𝑏𝙄𝑒𝑺𑣈𝗋𝜏(arr):
    𝚗 = len(𝔞𝔯𝗋)
    for 𝚤 in range((𝚗 - 1)):
        for 𝘫 in range(0, ((𝚗 - 𝚤) - 1)):
            if (𝔞𝔯𝗋[𝘫] > 𝔞𝔯𝗋[(𝘫 + 1)]):
                (𝔞𝔯𝗋[𝘫], 𝔞𝔯𝗋[(𝘫 + 1)]) = (𝔞𝔯𝗋[(𝘫 + 1)], 𝔞𝔯𝗋[𝘫])
𝔞𝔯𝗋 = [64, 34, 25, 12, 22, 11, 90]
𝔟𝘶𝐛𝑏𝙄𝑒𝑺𑣈𝗋𝜏(𝔞𝔯𝗋)
print('Sorted array is:')
for 𝚤 in range(len(𝔞𝔯𝗋)):
    (print(('%d' % 𝔞𝔯𝗋[𝚤])),)

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nice and simple algorithm

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best practices, you know

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 11:22 AM

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of course, of course

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:23 AM

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oh no

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I'm so confused as to what I'm doing wrong

solemn leaf Apr 5, 2021, 11:23 AM

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making a logic with 3d list be like 🥴

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:24 AM

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default theme for python?

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srslly

solemn leaf Apr 5, 2021, 11:24 AM

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👀

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:24 AM

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def m𝔢𝗿𝐠𝖾(array, left_index, right_index, middle):
    𝗹𝔢𝑓𝞃_𝙘𝓸𝗉𑣜 = 𝘢𝚛𝐫𝞪𝚢[𝛪𝗲𝖋𝓽_𝘪𝐧𝖽𝑒𝔵:(m𑣃𝖽𝒅𝒍𝑒 + 1)]
    𝐫𝗶𝘨𝙝𝞽_𝒄𝞂𝓅𝞬 = 𝘢𝚛𝐫𝞪𝚢[(m𑣃𝖽𝒅𝒍𝑒 + 1):(𝑟𝘪𝑔𝚑𝕥_𝐢𝝿𝒹𝕖𝑥 + 1)]
    𝙡𝘦𝖿𝖙_𝒄𝓸𝝔𝑦_𝑖𝞹𝓭𝓮𝖝 = 0
    𝖗𝗶𝘨𝘩𝑡_𝖼𝐨𝐩𝛾_𝑖𝔫𝖉𝕖𝖝 = 0
    𝘴𝗼𝗿𝘵𝑒𝗱_𝝸𝚗𝒅𝑒𝗑 = 𝛪𝗲𝖋𝓽_𝘪𝐧𝖽𝑒𝔵
    while ((𝙡𝘦𝖿𝖙_𝒄𝓸𝝔𝑦_𝑖𝞹𝓭𝓮𝖝 < len(𝗹𝔢𝑓𝞃_𝙘𝓸𝗉𑣜)) and (𝖗𝗶𝘨𝘩𝑡_𝖼𝐨𝐩𝛾_𝑖𝔫𝖉𝕖𝖝 < len(𝐫𝗶𝘨𝙝𝞽_𝒄𝞂𝓅𝞬))):
        if (𝗹𝔢𝑓𝞃_𝙘𝓸𝗉𑣜[𝙡𝘦𝖿𝖙_𝒄𝓸𝝔𝑦_𝑖𝞹𝓭𝓮𝖝] <= 𝐫𝗶𝘨𝙝𝞽_𝒄𝞂𝓅𝞬[𝖗𝗶𝘨𝘩𝑡_𝖼𝐨𝐩𝛾_𝑖𝔫𝖉𝕖𝖝]):
            𝘢𝚛𝐫𝞪𝚢[𝘴𝗼𝗿𝘵𝑒𝗱_𝝸𝚗𝒅𝑒𝗑] = 𝗹𝔢𝑓𝞃_𝙘𝓸𝗉𑣜[𝙡𝘦𝖿𝖙_𝒄𝓸𝝔𝑦_𝑖𝞹𝓭𝓮𝖝]
            𝙡𝘦𝖿𝖙_𝒄𝓸𝝔𝑦_𝑖𝞹𝓭𝓮𝖝 = (𝙡𝘦𝖿𝖙_𝒄𝓸𝝔𝑦_𝑖𝞹𝓭𝓮𝖝 + 1)
        else:
            𝘢𝚛𝐫𝞪𝚢[𝘴𝗼𝗿𝘵𝑒𝗱_𝝸𝚗𝒅𝑒𝗑] = 𝐫𝗶𝘨𝙝𝞽_𝒄𝞂𝓅𝞬[𝖗𝗶𝘨𝘩𝑡_𝖼𝐨𝐩𝛾_𝑖𝔫𝖉𝕖𝖝]
            𝖗𝗶𝘨𝘩𝑡_𝖼𝐨𝐩𝛾_𝑖𝔫𝖉𝕖𝖝 = (𝖗𝗶𝘨𝘩𝑡_𝖼𝐨𝐩𝛾_𝑖𝔫𝖉𝕖𝖝 + 1)
        𝘴𝗼𝗿𝘵𝑒𝗱_𝝸𝚗𝒅𝑒𝗑 = (𝘴𝗼𝗿𝘵𝑒𝗱_𝝸𝚗𝒅𝑒𝗑 + 1)
    while (𝙡𝘦𝖿𝖙_𝒄𝓸𝝔𝑦_𝑖𝞹𝓭𝓮𝖝 < len(𝗹𝔢𝑓𝞃_𝙘𝓸𝗉𑣜)):
        𝘢𝚛𝐫𝞪𝚢[𝘴𝗼𝗿𝘵𝑒𝗱_𝝸𝚗𝒅𝑒𝗑] = 𝗹𝔢𝑓𝞃_𝙘𝓸𝗉𑣜[𝙡𝘦𝖿𝖙_𝒄𝓸𝝔𝑦_𝑖𝞹𝓭𝓮𝖝]
        𝙡𝘦𝖿𝖙_𝒄𝓸𝝔𝑦_𝑖𝞹𝓭𝓮𝖝 = (𝙡𝘦𝖿𝖙_𝒄𝓸𝝔𝑦_𝑖𝞹𝓭𝓮𝖝 + 1)
        𝘴𝗼𝗿𝘵𝑒𝗱_𝝸𝚗𝒅𝑒𝗑 = (𝘴𝗼𝗿𝘵𝑒𝗱_𝝸𝚗𝒅𝑒𝗑 + 1)
    while (𝖗𝗶𝘨𝘩𝑡_𝖼𝐨𝐩𝛾_𝑖𝔫𝖉𝕖𝖝 < len(𝐫𝗶𝘨𝙝𝞽_𝒄𝞂𝓅𝞬)):
        𝘢𝚛𝐫𝞪𝚢[𝘴𝗼𝗿𝘵𝑒𝗱_𝝸𝚗𝒅𝑒𝗑] = 𝐫𝗶𝘨𝙝𝞽_𝒄𝞂𝓅𝞬[𝖗𝗶𝘨𝘩𝑡_𝖼𝐨𝐩𝛾_𝑖𝔫𝖉𝕖𝖝]
        𝖗𝗶𝘨𝘩𝑡_𝖼𝐨𝐩𝛾_𝑖𝔫𝖉𝕖𝖝 = (𝖗𝗶𝘨𝘩𝑡_𝖼𝐨𝐩𝛾_𝑖𝔫𝖉𝕖𝖝 + 1)
        𝘴𝗼𝗿𝘵𝑒𝗱_𝝸𝚗𝒅𝑒𝗑 = (𝘴𝗼𝗿𝘵𝑒𝗱_𝝸𝚗𝒅𝑒𝗑 + 1)

that's even better

solemn leaf Apr 5, 2021, 11:24 AM

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i have all themes on sublime

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:24 AM

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solemn leaf i have all themes on sublime

hm.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:24 AM

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gritty zinc ```py def m𝔢𝗿𝐠𝖾(array, left_index, right_index, middle): 𝗹𝔢𝑓𝞃_𝙘𝓸𝗉...

oooof

solemn leaf Apr 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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don't use vsc much

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🥴

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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subl for quick edits

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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lol wtf I'm so confused

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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vsc for long coding sessions

solemn leaf Apr 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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yep

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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this should be working but somehow all of my text is getting replaced

solemn leaf Apr 5, 2021, 11:25 AM

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lemme get some thwemes btw

solemn leaf Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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gritty zinc ```py def m𝔢𝗿𝐠𝖾(array, left_index, right_index, middle): 𝗹𝔢𝑓𝞃_𝙘𝓸𝗉...

what the ~~fuck~~font

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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don't even ask

solemn leaf Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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aight

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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solemn leaf lemme get some thwemes btw

gruvbox!!

solemn leaf Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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no

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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this is sad

solemn leaf Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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god

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:26 AM

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I'm so confused

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def => def

This is something I print to tell me what's getting converted to what... def is mapped to def, but for some damn reason... it gets replaced with something else

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

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whoops, forgot highlighting. There:

tranquil orchid Apr 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

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Oh thank you it's much more readable now

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:27 AM

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does de𝙛 look like def to any of y'all >:(

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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maybe I should just randomize the identifiers too

tranquil orchid Apr 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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is that gamma being used as a y

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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I'm using https://www.unicode.org/Public/security/8.0.0/confusables.txt, so probably!

tranquil orchid Apr 5, 2021, 11:28 AM

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I hate it

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:29 AM

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MAN. I'm so confused

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I can literally see all the words that aren't supposed to get replaced but they are

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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wait, wtf

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how does the function work if the arguments aren't mangled

tranquil orchid Apr 5, 2021, 11:30 AM

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wiat

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wait

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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oh, the interpreter unmangles stuff

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I see

tranquil orchid Apr 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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👀

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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you know what. I even deleted the words from this map so they can't EVEN BE REPLACED but THEY ARE

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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latent scaffold you know what. I even deleted the words from this map so they can't EVEN BE REPL...

you might be missing some piece of code or something

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:31 AM

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man. I'm so confused

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only one function can change the words

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which is modify()

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        if not keyword.iskeyword(word) and word not in imported and word not in std_builtins and '.' not in word:
            mod_word = modify(word, char_map)
            word_map[word] = mod_word
            print(f"{word} -> {mod_word}")
        else:
            if word in word_map:
                word_map.pop(word)

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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huh

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:32 AM

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that's the only use of modify()

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and I'm so confused

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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Here's my code, if someone wants to play around with it

📎 confusiblifier.py

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oh god

tranquil orchid Apr 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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oh my

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:35 AM

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now it's got encoding confusion on top of my, uhh, work

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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Okay, I think there's an edge case somewhere

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some symbol must be breaking things

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like... breaking my dict

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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!e

ǲ = 4
print(Dz)

royal lakeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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@graceful basin :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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didn't know it even normalized doubled up characters

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:37 AM

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Every time I run this, the word that's broken changes

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 11:39 AM

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gritty zinc Here's my code, if someone wants to play around with it

this should go in #esoteric-python lol

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write a code like this and run it :D

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:40 AM

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my brain hurts

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Deleted entry for `str`

... yet it still gets replaced

rough sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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What can cause coca-cola eruption except mentos?

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 11:43 AM

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#esoteric-python message this was my try to get characters that get normalised the same (but only Latin alphabet and numbers, but one can prepare the dict however they want), and only characters that can be used in identifiers

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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I want to cry

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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h𝕖𝘭l𝙤 = "Hello world!" 
𝕡ʳ𝚒𝚗𝑡(𝗁𝖊ｌ𝖑ₒ)

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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why is my code doing stuff by itself

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I'm literally printing what's changing to what

rough sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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harsh tundra ```py h𝕖𝘭l𝙤 = "Hello world!" 𝕡ʳ𝚒𝚗𝑡(𝗁𝖊ｌ𝖑ₒ) ```

this is awful

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 11:44 AM

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Make sure you saved it and execute it from a good file

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:45 AM

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it's not that

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i'm literally so confused

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    for k, v in word_map.items():
        print(f"{k} => {v}")
        text = text.replace(k, v)

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if I comment out the text = line

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the result is just a copy

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 11:45 AM

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Yes

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:45 AM

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and I print everything that'll be replaced

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and so things that shouldn't be replaced aren't printed

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BUT THEY'RE STILL CHANGED

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I don't understand

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I even printed word_map and searched it

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things that aren't supposed to be changed aren't listed in there

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 11:46 AM

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latent scaffold and so things that shouldn't be replaced aren't printed

What do you mean? You just said you get a copy

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:46 AM

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huh?

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I mean of the original text

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if I comment out that line

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the text will just be the same as what I put in

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nothing is replaced

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 11:47 AM

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I think I see what your problem is

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:47 AM

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please enlighten me

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 11:48 AM

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After you replace something, the new text will be searched and replaced again
So if you have
Char1 -> char2
And further down you have char2->char3
Both will get triggered. So it will seem as if you have char1->char3 change

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:49 AM

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but I'm not replacing chars

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I'm replacing words

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 11:49 AM

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I just wrote it like that, I know the list above had combinations etc

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:50 AM

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wait a minute

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ah. it would appear

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that I was

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replacing chars

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welp. that makes sense

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 11:51 AM

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latent scaffold I'm replacing words

And if you're replacing words...
test>changed
"testing" -> "changeding"

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:51 AM

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well the problem ended up being that certain characters

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looked like words in the eyes of program

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so t all by itself would look like a word

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https://paste.pythondiscord.com/cayucatuva.sql

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I'm getting there

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 11:52 AM

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can u del str

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 11:53 AM

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Yes. str is just a variable. The same way you can write str=123

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 11:53 AM

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bruh

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lol

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:53 AM

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NameError: name 'str' is not defined

edgy crest Apr 5, 2021, 11:53 AM

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str is a class no thinkies

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 11:54 AM

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harsh tundra Yes. str is just a variable. The same way you can write str=123

nope, builtin names are special like that

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if you do str = ..., you can then del str and it'll be back to pointing to a builtin

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:54 AM

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Now how do I remove the illegal symbols D:

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 11:54 AM

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damn

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 11:54 AM

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I think after I can remove the illegal characters, this will be done

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 11:55 AM

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gritty zinc if you do `str = ...`, you can then `del str` and it'll be back to pointing to a...

😮

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>>> print
<built-in function print>
>>> del print
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'print' is not defined
>>> print = 123
>>> print
123
>>> del print
>>> print
<built-in function print>
>>>

omg, that would save me so much time when helping some beginners on SO. I had a case of someone overwriting their print and of course there's a lot of other stuff (list and dict are most common)

stark prawn Apr 5, 2021, 12:00 PM

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I would love if overriding builtins was not an allowed thing

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Thinking about it, it does make sense to be able to do it though

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 12:07 PM

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um. I can't tell if I did it or not

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 12:07 PM

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I would agree with making it a warning tbh

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 12:09 PM

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the kind of warning u get when u do an is comparison with strings

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isnt that called SyntaxWarning

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 12:09 PM

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yes

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 12:09 PM

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i see

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 12:11 PM

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BytesWarning
DeprecationWarning
FutureWarning
ImportWarning
PendingDeprecationWarning
ResourceWarning
RuntimeWarning
SyntaxWarning
UnicodeWarning
UserWarning
Warning
``` challenge: write a program that raises all of these warnings without doing it manually (except Warning and RuntimeWarning, that's the base class)

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 12:17 PM

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damn

narrow sable Apr 5, 2021, 12:18 PM

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Does anybody know any modules, repositories or APIs that can generate random Minecraft seeds in Python? I'm trying to find a seed with specific biomes and features close by and hoping to do it using Python

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 12:32 PM

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well. I did something... https://paste.pythondiscord.com/aqiqizawac.py

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I'm tired of this LOL

last mantle Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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latent scaffold well. I did *something*... https://paste.pythondiscord.com/aqiqizawac.py

why are you using asyncio.get_event_loop()?

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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cuz async is cool bro

last mantle Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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nono, there is asyncio.run()

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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last mantle why are you using `asyncio.get_event_loop()`?

I never know when I might use async
Love having main() as an entrypoint lol

last mantle Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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why do all that

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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also asyncio.run() breaks sometimes

last mantle Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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oh

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hmm

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 12:55 PM

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idk why, I just remember switching to that

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which I'm fine with, it's just another line

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 12:56 PM

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but there was no async in there

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 12:57 PM

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doesn't need to be

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I just like it \😩

last mantle Apr 5, 2021, 12:58 PM

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The loop parameter has been removed from most of asyncio‘s high-level API following deprecation in Python 3.8. The motivation behind this change is multifold:

This simplifies the high-level API.

The functions in the high-level API have been implicitly getting the current thread’s running event loop since Python 3.7. There isn’t a need to pass the event loop to the API in most normal use cases.

Event loop passing is error-prone especially when dealing with loops running in different threads.

Note that the low-level API will still accept loop. See Changes in the Python API for examples of how to replace existing code.``` @latent scaffold

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 12:58 PM

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brhuhhy

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 12:58 PM

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love main() as an entrypoint

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 12:58 PM

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last mantle ``` The loop parameter has been removed from most of asyncio‘s high-level API fo...

I know that run is higher level, but it used to break for me

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I've not used it since

last mantle Apr 5, 2021, 12:59 PM

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break as in?

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 12:59 PM

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runtime errors

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just for using it

last mantle Apr 5, 2021, 12:59 PM

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hmm

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 12:59 PM

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in the same way as I've used it in that script

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 12:59 PM

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runtime warnings or errors

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 12:59 PM

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errors...?

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 12:59 PM

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ight

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 12:59 PM

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idk, it was really weird

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Someone in #async-and-concurrency helped me fix it by using the event loop stuff

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a long time ago

last mantle Apr 5, 2021, 1:02 PM

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ye but ig its being removed in 3.10

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 1:03 PM

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graceful basin ```py BytesWarning DeprecationWarning FutureWarning ImportWarning PendingDepreca...

!bm 828602650924417064 warnings challenge

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.bm 828602650924417064 warnings challenge

last mantle Apr 5, 2021, 1:05 PM

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lol

vapid nymph Apr 5, 2021, 1:22 PM

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graceful basin ```py BytesWarning DeprecationWarning FutureWarning ImportWarning PendingDepreca...

ooh i can do at least 1 of those

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 1:22 PM

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same

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runtime warning is ez

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i always get it :D

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 1:26 PM

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inland wolf *i always get it :D*

~~ suffering from success ~~
succeeding from failure

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 1:26 PM

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lol

honest pawn Apr 5, 2021, 1:27 PM

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twin charm ~~ suffering from success ~~ succeeding from failure

Succeeding from suffering

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 1:28 PM

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Naw.

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 2:02 PM

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jetbrains IDEs do be kinda thicc

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 2:03 PM

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omg

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thats like...

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 2:03 PM

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acoustic moss jetbrains IDEs do be kinda thicc

that's... less

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 2:03 PM

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half of my ram

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 2:03 PM

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1332 MB... mine goes till 2000MB sometimes

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 2:04 PM

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its worth it tbh

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intellij is pretty pog

low chasm Apr 5, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Lol

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 2:10 PM

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That's still less than my webbrowser XD

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 2:13 PM

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lol

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who the fuck is antimalware service executable and why does he want 500MB

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 2:13 PM

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lmfao relatable.

low chasm Apr 5, 2021, 2:18 PM

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acoustic moss who the fuck is antimalware service executable and why does he want 500MB

Lol

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antimalware service executable sucks

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 2:27 PM

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acoustic moss who the fuck is antimalware service executable and why does he want 500MB

windows defender

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it only takes 90 mb for me 😎

wise schooner Apr 5, 2021, 2:27 PM

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same

last mantle Apr 5, 2021, 2:30 PM

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it keeps your pc safe

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so deal with it 😎

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 2:33 PM

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lol

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 2:36 PM

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https://youtu.be/yZ1egVORfn0

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dude I gotta watch this

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I watched the first season and I liked it

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 2:37 PM

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Who knew warnings were so annoying to trigger

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 2:37 PM

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literally one of the only good shows on Prime

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 3:05 PM

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btw I think I should change my file extension.

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Any good filextensions?

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.tar.gz for now 🥴

brazen ingot Apr 5, 2021, 3:07 PM

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lol

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I just bought a new keyboard

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 3:10 PM

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cool.

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 3:12 PM

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graceful basin ```py BytesWarning DeprecationWarning FutureWarning ImportWarning PendingDepreca...

Can I cheat a little? \😩 I can get a SyntaxWarning, but I can't catch it and it looks ugly if I don't trigger it manually

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 3:12 PM

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sure

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 3:12 PM

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yay

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Man. is it even possible to trigger a UnicodeWarning outside of Python2

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 3:23 PM

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is it bad that I still don't use try and except

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I probably should be

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 3:23 PM

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no

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 3:24 PM

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latent scaffold Man. is it even possible to trigger a UnicodeWarning outside of Python2

as far as I can tell, no

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 3:24 PM

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._.

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 3:25 PM

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IG you have to subprocess a python 2 interpreter and raise it from that

rough sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 3:25 PM

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is there a way to await variable assignments?

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i want my entire code to be async 😎

rich moon Apr 5, 2021, 3:39 PM

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uh if you have something like x = y i dont think thats awaiable

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unless if ur calling a function and using its return value and that thing is awaitble then yeah

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now im no expert with python coroutines but i would assume its somewhat similar to js promises or sth

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:01 PM

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Hello again. My router was behaving inappropriately and knocked me offline.

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@gritty zinc Did you finish your abomination yet?

quick scroll Apr 5, 2021, 4:04 PM

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just a random question does anyone know a language with a lotta => and ==>? i'm confused over this code snippet i've come across

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Haskell has a => operator

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and >>= too

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can you post a link to the snippet?

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 4:06 PM

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fresh basalt <@!266216750876459008> Did you finish your abomination yet?

haven't done anything else since #ot1-perplexing-regexing message, no

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Oh wow.

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You've certainly accomplished… something. :D

vapid nymph Apr 5, 2021, 4:09 PM

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gritty zinc Here's my code, if someone wants to play around with it

<@&267629731250176001> why did the filter not catch this smh

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Use the pastebin, no?

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:09 PM

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why would it?

trail juniper Apr 5, 2021, 4:09 PM

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helper privilege 👀

honest star Apr 5, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Staff bypass the filters

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:09 PM

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character count?

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 4:10 PM

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staff can upload files

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:10 PM

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oh yeah def character count lmfao

vapid nymph Apr 5, 2021, 4:10 PM

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I'm on mobile so I can't view it zoomEyes

frozen coral Apr 5, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Filters don't run on embedded files and helpers ignore the file filters 😄

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:10 PM

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my terminal shows absolutely none of those unicode characters.

frozen coral Apr 5, 2021, 4:10 PM

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oh lol, everyone has already answered 👀

vapid nymph Apr 5, 2021, 4:10 PM

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frozen coral Filters don't run on embedded files and helpers ignore the file filters 😄

Non text files

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:10 PM

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@gritty zinc but why did you do that?

honest star Apr 5, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Also that probably didn't need a moderator ping, not exactly an urgent matter >_>

wheat lynx Apr 5, 2021, 4:11 PM

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#community-meta would have been much better for that

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:11 PM

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@remote socket Why do people climb mountains?

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Because they can.

vapid nymph Apr 5, 2021, 4:11 PM

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honest star Also that probably didn't need a moderator ping, not exactly an urgent matter >_...

A random py file that's kilobytes big is what has occurred before zoomEyes

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:11 PM

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I saw a mod ping get vanished.

honest star Apr 5, 2021, 4:11 PM

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vapid nymph A random py file that's kilobytes big is what has occurred before <a:zoomEyes:54...

I don't see the connection as to why that would require a moderator role ping

vapid nymph Apr 5, 2021, 4:11 PM

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twin charm I saw a mod ping get vanished.

It got like a lot of people here oops

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:11 PM

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loll

vapid nymph Apr 5, 2021, 4:12 PM

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honest star I don't see the connection as to why that would require a moderator role ping

Could be malicious, why would I open it on here if I can't see it's contents?

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:12 PM

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our helpers are trusted people

vapid nymph Apr 5, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Isn't a ping better than no ping, as always is said.

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 4:12 PM

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vapid nymph Could be malicious, why would I open it on here if I can't see it's contents?

that's why there is @polar knoll

vapid nymph Apr 5, 2021, 4:12 PM

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remote socket our helpers are trusted people

I uh, missed it was from a helper++

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:12 PM

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woah woah woah

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:12 PM

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@vapid nymph Everyone here spent literal hours talking about unicode while ConfusedReptile did that.

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:12 PM

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gettin steamy in here

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:12 PM

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so many colourful usernames here

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:12 PM

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It wasn't a surprise.

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:12 PM

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vapid nymph I uh, missed it was from a helper++

heh?

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 4:13 PM

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now every mod is coming here to check what has happened? 😛

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:13 PM

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lol

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we got a ping!

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:13 PM

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harsh tundra now every mod is coming here to check what has happened? 😛

lmao

vapid nymph Apr 5, 2021, 4:13 PM

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harsh tundra now every mod is coming here to check what has happened? 😛

that may be the most responses I've seen at once for one ping

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:13 PM

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this channel is getting interesting.

acoustic moss Apr 5, 2021, 4:13 PM

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wonder if any staff has ever received a serious infraction

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:14 PM

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There is no helper++, please explain this possible joke that I missed.

vapid nymph Apr 5, 2021, 4:14 PM

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i even saw scragley show up

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:14 PM

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hahaha it's 30 people getting a notification

vapid nymph Apr 5, 2021, 4:14 PM

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remote socket There is no helper++, please explain this possible joke that I missed.

helper++ == helpers and up

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:14 PM

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It's a Python Discord, how serious can serious be?

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:14 PM

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acoustic moss wonder if any staff has ever received a serious infraction

but staff infractions aren't... real

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:14 PM

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ah

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:14 PM

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fresh basalt It's a Python Discord, how serious can serious be?

everything is serious

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no fun allowed

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:14 PM

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Python is serious business.

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:14 PM

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yes of course

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:14 PM

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🥴

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:14 PM

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what about mods testing mute and ban commands to other mods 😛

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:14 PM

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what is going on why are there so many mods here

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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we got a mod ping

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lol

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Mod party.

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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fresh basalt It's a Python Discord, how serious can serious be?

badly handled snakes can bite you

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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sterile sapphire what is going on why are there so many mods here

#ot1-perplexing-regexing message

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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@bleak lintel I have a game breaking bug

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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mod pings in off topic generally means we come and stay

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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remote socket <@!165023948638126080> I have a game breaking bug

how game breaking

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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bleak lintel mod pings in off topic generally means we come and stay

yaay.

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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I can't use steak bot here

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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bleak lintel mod pings in off topic generally means we come and stay

yay ❤️

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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remote socket I can't use steak bot here

sorry but you're not cool enough

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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fuck

drifting sage Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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lmao

honest star Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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hmmmm... I wonder if I can work on the voting slash command bot since the other thing is stalled for a bit

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:15 PM

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i wonder

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how many staff-staff infractions there are

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:16 PM

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So apparently my font doesn't support all the characters ConfusedReptile used in their program. That sucks.

stark prawn Apr 5, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Is that a challange?

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:16 PM

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lol

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:16 PM

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class starts in 15 minutes how am I supposed to stay calm without my steak bot???? /s

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 4:16 PM

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steakbot down?

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:16 PM

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what?

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 4:16 PM

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what

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Does anyone here use a neat unicode monospace font in their Linux terminal?

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:16 PM

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You can only use it in #bot-commands

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 4:16 PM

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right

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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I'm using Deja Vu Sans Mono.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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btw how is everyone?

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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LOL

pythondiscord=# SELECT COUNT(1) FROM api_infraction LEFT JOIN api_user au ON api_infraction.user_id = au.id WHERE ARRAY[267629731250176001] <@ au.roles;
 count
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   535
(1 row)

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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lmao joe

inland wolf Apr 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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damn

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535

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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hmmm

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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2.4% of infractions

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is that correct

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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mod pings?

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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how can that be

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:17 PM

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wait

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how many times has the filter been triggered

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:18 PM

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lol @honest star

frozen crane Apr 5, 2021, 4:18 PM

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bleak lintel 2.4% of infractions

infraction count leaked 😮

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:18 PM

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bleak lintel 2.4% of infractions

sounds about right

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:18 PM

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btw mods have you been informed about how zero width spaces can bypass filters?

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:18 PM

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twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:18 PM

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fixx

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:18 PM

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twin charm btw mods have you been informed about how zero width spaces can bypass filters?

I think there's a PR somewhere?

honest star Apr 5, 2021, 4:18 PM

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lololol

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oh hey, there was my only real infraction from uploading too many images at once in branding

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:19 PM

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remote socket I think there's a PR somewhere?

maybe, maybe not. I think Akarys talked about opening an issue but I never checked.

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:19 PM

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hey guys

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:19 PM

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I was wrong

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there's no PR

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:19 PM

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sterile sapphire hey guys

Hi.

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:19 PM

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if I wanted to email the department chair

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about a professor

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would around 1/3 of the class having the same issue

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be enough to make a change?

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:19 PM

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twin charm maybe, maybe not. I think Akarys talked about opening an issue but I never check...

There is no issue currently open, would you mind writing it?

frozen crane Apr 5, 2021, 4:19 PM

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sterile sapphire be enough to make a change?

not necessarily, but it's probably all you can do

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:19 PM

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remote socket There is no issue currently open, would you mind writing it?

okay.

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 4:19 PM

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bleak lintel

I think I remember that one 😄

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:19 PM

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ty

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:19 PM

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It probably depends. If the professor has tenure, good luck.

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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Man. What on Earth triggers Warning

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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fresh basalt It probably depends. If the professor has tenure, good luck.

he doesn't 🥴 he's an assistant professor

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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This one's gonna be the hardest, isn't it

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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!warn @remote socket bonk

royal lakeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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failmail :ok_hand: applied warning to @remote socket.

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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that's what triggers it

honest star Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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!warn @bleak lintel damn your database constraint

royal lakeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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:x: There was an error adding the infraction: status 500.

latent scaffold Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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oh o_o not what I meant

frozen crane Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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fresh basalt It probably depends. If the professor has tenure, good luck.

my department had a tenured professor that no one liked. And suddenly, that professor didn't teach any courses anymore.

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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get f0rked

graceful basin Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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latent scaffold Man. What on Earth triggers `Warning`

maybe some 3rd party library, I did exempt it IIRC because of how rare it is

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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@frozen crane Did he get murked?

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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he's an assistant professor

frozen crane Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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fresh basalt <@!253696366952316929> Did he get murked?

murked?

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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so I don't think this will work well for him

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:20 PM

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murked.

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:21 PM

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he's also not on the full time faculty page

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:21 PM

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iced

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ghosted

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:21 PM

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which means they either didn't update it

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or he's actually not part of the full time faculty

gritty zinc Apr 5, 2021, 4:21 PM

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remote socket <@!266216750876459008> but *why* did you do that?

Because Discord can now embed these with bells and whistles and syntax highlighting. Or is it discouraged anyway?
~~or are you asking why I made the unicode obfuscation thingie? 😅 ~~

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:21 PM

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does tenured mean you're full time?

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:21 PM

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@remote socket actually akarys did infact open an issue.

frozen crane Apr 5, 2021, 4:21 PM

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they just made it so that professor didn't teach any classes. she could continue to do research and collect a paycheck.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:21 PM

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https://github.com/python-discord/bot/issues/1469

GitHub

Invisible characters can be used to bypass filters · Issue #1469 · ...

Using zero width spaces and similar invisible characters, it is possible to easily bypass our token filter list. We should strip such characters before running the regexes.

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:21 PM

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oh I didn't see that

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ty

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:22 PM

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hmm.

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:22 PM

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@frozen crane Oh, the professor might've liked that. Some professors like researching but they do not like teaching.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:22 PM

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it has a "critical" label. oOoO sounds important xD

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:22 PM

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Sometimes it's just a bad fit.

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Not everyone is cut out to teach.

remote socket Apr 5, 2021, 4:22 PM

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because it needs to be done this very instant

frozen crane Apr 5, 2021, 4:22 PM

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fresh basalt <@!253696366952316929> Oh, the professor might've liked that. Some professors li...

this professor liked teaching actually. but she was pretty old and had really lost touch.

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:22 PM

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the prof is genuinely a nice guy

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:22 PM

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Aw. :(

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:22 PM

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it's just that his grading criteria is awful

frozen crane Apr 5, 2021, 4:23 PM

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also they replaced her as instructor for every course that she taught in the middle of a semester

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Some academic departments really play politics.

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:23 PM

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it's not a trivial issue tho I'm really not wasting their time here

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:23 PM

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I don't like that about academia.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:24 PM

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remote socket because it needs to be done this very instant

yeah but no one knows about this exploit yet. Or maybe no one except me exploited it 0w0.

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:24 PM

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I find it hard to believe a professor can just give 50s for an open book exam

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to students who spent days studying

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and also offer minimal justification

frozen crane Apr 5, 2021, 4:24 PM

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not sure. she was teaching the discrete math course and a lot of students were failing out of the program because of that class. But that wasn't the intended weed-out class.

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:24 PM

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My CS department had a professor who would give negative scores.

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:24 PM

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My CS department had a prof who would actively laugh at me

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and he said I relied too much on office hours

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https://tenor.com/view/nicki-minaj-why-are-they-there-then-barbie-gif-12557739

Tenor

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:25 PM

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b r u h

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:25 PM

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also I was a beginner

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so I don't know how you shame people for asking "incorrect questions"

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:25 PM

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btw which year of college are you in now? or graduated already? lemon_hyperpleased

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:26 PM

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I'm a soph

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:26 PM

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@frozen crane That's sad.

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:26 PM

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it's just kind of ridiculous to criticize a student for not asking correct questions

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:26 PM

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Idk whats with the terminologies.. Enlighten me on what a sophomore is.

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:26 PM

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when they're still getting into the mindset of how to ask questions about code

frozen crane Apr 5, 2021, 4:26 PM

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fresh basalt <@!253696366952316929> That's sad.

if you want to hop in a voice chat I'll tell you a story about her

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:26 PM

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There were a few professors emeritus at my department and they were really great.

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:26 PM

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you're not only learning how to code

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you learn an entire mindset for problem solving

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and it takes time to get used to the mindset

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:27 PM

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Mhm

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:27 PM

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@frozen crane Thanks but maybe another time.

frozen crane Apr 5, 2021, 4:27 PM

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fresh basalt <@!253696366952316929> Thanks but maybe another time.

no problem. the delivery is important with that particular story.

sterile sapphire Apr 5, 2021, 4:27 PM

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frozen crane if you want to hop in a voice chat I'll tell you a story about her

I can tho if you want to tell me

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:27 PM

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What's with the lovefest role?

frozen crane Apr 5, 2021, 4:28 PM

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fresh basalt What's with the lovefest role?

I'm just so filled with love

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:28 PM

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fresh basalt What's with the lovefest role?

.bemyvalentine 283760603909062656

median domeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 4:28 PM

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Noooooo!!

Your input was invalid: You cannot send a valentine to danceswithdirt#4282 as they do not have the lovefest role!

Usage:
.bemyvalentine <user> [valentine_type]

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:28 PM

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bruh

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:28 PM

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Oh it was a Valentine's Day thing?

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:28 PM

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yeah it was.

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:29 PM

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Thank you.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:29 PM

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.lovefest sub

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too late.

last mantle Apr 5, 2021, 4:30 PM

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pigs :0

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:30 PM

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.topic

median domeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 4:30 PM

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**Would you rather fight 100 duck sized horses or one horse sized duck?**

Suggest more topics here!

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:31 PM

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bruh

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.topic (new one pls)

median domeBOT Apr 5, 2021, 4:31 PM

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**What is your favorite video game?**

Suggest more topics here!

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:31 PM

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ahah

low chasm Apr 5, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Hi :D

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:31 PM

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AQW ftw

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Hii :DD

low chasm Apr 5, 2021, 4:31 PM

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~~minecraft~~

low chasm Apr 5, 2021, 4:31 PM

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twin charm Hii \:DD

Hi :D

bleak lintel Apr 5, 2021, 4:31 PM

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tetris

low chasm Apr 5, 2021, 4:32 PM

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tetris cool

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:32 PM

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E maskk

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:32 PM

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I played so much Tetris as a kid.

low chasm Apr 5, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Lol

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Pipe Dream too.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:32 PM

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I like tetris too

low chasm Apr 5, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Mhm

fresh basalt Apr 5, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Lately I've been playing a lot of Factorio.

twin charm Apr 5, 2021, 4:32 PM

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tetris is available along with CodeBlocks

low chasm Apr 5, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Cool

harsh tundra Apr 5, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Minesweeper!

low chasm Apr 5, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Lol

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Genshin impact? My sisters addicted to it lmao