since its vishu and its tradition for parents to give their kids money 🤣
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
twin charm
low chasm
Oh lmao
twin charm
a smol festival
wary spire
16 gig ram, prebuilt hdd and core, and a Nvidia gtx 750
On a Dell inspiron 3670
last mantle
damn a 750
low chasm
Cool
twin charm
I got 200 rupees last year
low chasm
I have a prebuilt aswell
low chasm
I got 200 rupees last year
Cool :D
wary spire
750 is old af
last mantle
does the 750 perform well now?
wary spire
I got it from my dads part box
twin charm
I think I'll raise enough money to buy a mouse
low chasm
I have 16gb ram, 256gb ssd, 1tg hdd, and a gtx 1660 super 6gb
low chasm
I think I'll raise enough money to buy a mouse
Mouses (or mice?) are nice
twin charm
Mouses (or mice?) are nice
singular*
wary spire
does the 750 perform well now?
Fallout 4 1080p and med setring at 42 fps,
HL2 at max settings 180 fps
low chasm
Alright, mouse are nice
low chasm
idk I'm not a native english speaker 🥴
I'm a native english speaker and I'm barely literate
wary spire
Lol
low chasm
Lol
low chasm
ditch english
low chasm
Cool
wary spire
My rickroll detector
low chasm
I'm making a programming language :D
wary spire
Oh wow
twin charm
madlad 💯
low chasm
It cant do much except basic printing and addition/subtraction though
wary spire
Yooooo
low chasm
This is my last finished project https://aboominister25.github.io/arc/
Async support :D
twin charm
cool cool.
low chasm
Oh lol
rough sapphire
anyone want a custom logo?
twin charm
This is my last finished project https://aboominister25.github.io/arc/
did you just write this whole documentation? 😳
twin charm
did it take more time to write the docs than to actually make it
twin charm
Not the theming though
hmm.
twin charm
got it.
safe bridge
new server picture pog
low chasm
Lol yeah
narrow pecan
I'm making a programming language \:D
I love how active you are with your projects. Good job 😄
low chasm
Thanks :D
last mantle
@narrow pecan do you do ML
narrow pecan
Not really
last mantle
oh okay
acoustic moss
there's #data-science-and-ml
narrow pecan
It’s a really interesting subject, though. I like 3b1b’s series about it
He takes a very intuitive and visual approach to explaining the concepts behind it
last mantle
imma try ML from june
low chasm
Cool, I'll probably check him out sometime
inland wolf
he has a cool video on cryptocurrencies
last mantle
indeed
sterile sapphire
Riverdale
we don't talk about that
it's just garbage CW shows are just pep talks and then they beat the villain
low chasm
lmfao
sterile sapphire
that is like the pattern to every episode
Barry tells his team oh I'm not fast enough
low chasm
Most of those shows got boring after a while
low chasm
Mhm
low chasm
And magically, insane speed
sterile sapphire
oh oh oh
don't forget the arcs where he loses his speed
oh no
I wonder what's going to happen? it's not like he's going to get his speed back right?
low chasm
Mhm
sterile sapphire
I don't care about Harrison Wells
I don't care about the 5 billion versions of him
Reverse Flash was the best villain
vapid nymph
Reminder: #ot1-perplexing-regexing message
low chasm
Reverse Flash was the best villain
Yeah it was
sterile sapphire
that first season
was amazing
at least Arrow directors knew that people really didn't care anymore
so they killed Oliver off in the Crisis what not
ok so now kill Barry please
low chasm
I didnt watch crisis lol, I stopped watching CW shows after a while
sterile sapphire
I didn't watch Crisis either
all I saw was the ending
they tried to make it like Infinity War and Endgame
and all dramatic and that shit
but literally nothing happened
please just discontinue the entire CW
scrap the entire network
it was fun for a while but no one cares anymore
sterile sapphire
is this accurate
last mantle
oh god, that hurts my head
rancid yacht
ahah
twin charm
👀
frozen crane
@rancid yacht please don't put lots of flashing colors in the server. We don't know which of our 160k+ members might have epilepsy.
rancid yacht
I have epilepsy lmfao
Should the video above also be removed? if they click on it without warning surely this correlates to the point you're making??
void grove
I have epilepsy lmfao
You need a certain type of epilepsy to be affected by those flashing images, the term 'epilepsy' is too vague and broad, it is usually photosensitive epileptics that are affected by flashing images
kindred sorrel
Gotta love the banner+icon, even tho I'm not a fan of the festival
austere crane
since a lot of people liked it
here are some of rejected designs
banner5 was selected
austere crane
I loved the idea of 2 and 3
low chasm
Yeah, those are cool too
sterile sapphire
they all look really good
sterile sapphire
I loved the idea of 2 and 3
you have a great talent
austere crane
nah man it was just photoshop stuff
nothing talent thingy
austere crane
lemon liked it so yeah, it was a good job
it was not my whole design
people helped me choosing the colors and giving their opinion
broken vault
sweet trail
hey guys, I'm curious about your opinion about Golang vs Rust for web backend..What do you say have better future for rest api developement?
I'm kinda interested in Rust, learned a lot in that but seems to be not so good for career as a rest api developer..
graceful basin
Go is definitely the easier language to write code in
but a lot of people hate go for very valid reasons
such as string handling
low chasm
Ive been learning rust recently, and its been great so far, but yeah, Go is syntactically easier
sweet trail
Ive been learning rust recently, and its been great so far, but yeah, Go is synt...
me too
i like rust
graceful basin
really, the issue with rust is that a lot of its complexity can just be done with GC instead, which ends up much easier
sweet trail
but ppl mostly use it to replace c++ tasks..
and web frameworks like Rocket.rs seem pretty promising
very nice syntax
readable etc
and safe
then why on the earth 'd someone use anything else? I know, developement speed.. but eh
low chasm
Support is one reason
Rust is still a fairly new language
So other langs with more resources and widespread support seem more appealing
graceful basin
the difference is software failures in a web API don't kill people
in fact, you will always have failures
so not having specifically application be correct isn't all that useful
since it won't safe you from the machine dying for some unrelated reason
sweet trail
since it won't safe you from the machine dying for some unrelated reason
why? rust's runtime is safe
oh
you mean that the machine itself goes off
sweet trail
yes
graceful basin
or your host has planned downtime
sweet trail
i got it
graceful basin
and well, more computers are much cheaper than more developers to make up for not being to able to quickly hack around features
sweet trail
but then why did Discord move from Go to Rust? they could have just put another server and vioala
graceful basin
they judged that the move would be cheaper than more servers
and also, go is really not the greatest language
sweet trail
What is so bad about it?
graceful basin
one great example is string handling
there is no string type which actually has unicode characters in it
python has str, rust has String, ...
Go strings are sequences of bytes
sweet trail
ohh
graceful basin
and the convention is to just assume they are utf8 encoded
sweet trail
i see
graceful basin
which is silly
also, a lot of people really hate the error handling, though I personally don't really mind
also, for the longest time, no generics
sweet trail
inspite of having this "bad habbit", go is still faster than node,java,c# as some benchmark shows
sweet trail
also, a lot of people really hate the error handling, though I personally don't ...
yeah, Rust does it really awesome, .except, match, ?, etc
graceful basin
yeah, rust error handling is quite nice
still like cl conditions more, but Rust has good reasons for switching off them early on
gritty zinc
I heard Go had a very inefficient regex engine for years (still does?)
graceful basin
that is a fixable problem
but the overall pattern of being this powerful architecture atop with a rich language, but everything past that just being kinda meh
sweet trail
still like cl conditions more, but Rust has good reasons for switching off them ...
i hope so, because i think it's really nice to write it, and makes me happy when it compiles and i can be sure it's okay 😄
graceful basin
I personally have highest hopes for typescript
sharing code between front and backend is really valuable
sweet trail
https://rocket.rs/
and the fact that it has rocket.rs is awesome. If you don't mind, just take a quick look at the homepage. Like Laravel lol, so nice
graceful basin
and well, its a good language, easy to learn, typesafe, performant enough
sweet trail
and well, its a good language, easy to learn, typesafe, performant enough
i know js/ts quite well
comming from js world
react + ts + node + typeorm
or mongodb instead of typeorm, 🙂
mongoose with types are nice as well
but, thought about making a change..
for a "better" thing
graceful basin
that seems very similar to fastAPI
sweet trail
yeah
btw
everywhere i can hear, python on web is over and it should be over
😄
idk why
maybe bcs of the performance..
graceful basin
that is the main reason
but also, python isn't going anywhere anytime soon
rails is still very much alive
graceful basin
hell, pure PHP is still in full use
sweet trail
and python in overall
graceful basin
not lavarel, just flat our php with php4 templating
graceful basin
it is pretty nice, yeah
personally, I like haskell for web backends, but it has its many many flaws
sweet trail
but then it could be Rust too.. couldn't it?
Rust or Haskell. complex-complex
😄
(never touched haskell before)
graceful basin
Haskell is much nicer than rust
graceful basin
don't have to write every function 3 times so that it works T, &T and &mut T
sweet trail
Yeah..
graceful basin
can't forget Rc vs Arc vs ...
safety is nice
but I like quickly creating functions
sweet trail
can't forget Rc vs Arc vs ...
sounds like you're really familiar with Rust 😛
I thought about having React+ts, django/flask/fastapi whatever, rust as a knowledge.
these i like the most
graceful basin
honestly, the main annoyance with rust for me wasn't even the lacking polymorphism, I just put Copy on my structs, but the incredibly long project setup time since cargo has to compile everything from scratch everytime you start a project
graceful basin
you can't even use your PC while this is happening since your CPU goes to 100
sweet trail
that's a well known disadv. ye
graceful basin
Julia and Odin also ran into this very quickly
Odin just stopped using LLVM
Julia is doing its best to make it not terrible
sweet trail
i don't know them
graceful basin
Julia replaces python for data science
Odin is a low level lang
Haskell has a similar issue, but you can reuse already built things
still requires compilation at least once
so not as good as python
where you compile 0 times per project setup thanks to wheel
gritty zinc
is Julia nicer with plotting/dataframes/datetimes/stuff like that?
graceful basin
yes
sweet trail
but why do they doN't care about python's performance enough?
i think they could improve it
or?
graceful basin
python is as fast as it can be
gritty zinc
hmm, should probably check it out. I didn't enjoy my today's foray into dataframes of dates 😅
graceful basin
there is pypy for longer running tasks
but keep in mind that CPython is also used for scripting
where it decimates pypy due to faster startup times
high flexibility and metaprogramability come at a performance cost
sweet trail
Yes.
that's why i like python
iam not so good at math, don't even have cs degree.. just like coding and creating things this way.
but i kinda know how things work already
more or lass
less*
graceful basin
but also, it means you can't get stuck in a case where you realize you need to move data into a place where it wasn't meant to be and have to refractor the entire application
graceful basin
Rust has it's panics for that
sweet trail
but also, it means you can't get stuck in a case where you realize you need to m...
yes, exactly..
graceful basin
let mut ohNoINeedTheDatabase20PureCallsDeep: Option<DBConnection> = Nothing();
yeah what's that? 😄
graceful basin
you can share data globally in rust if you lie to the compiler and panic enough
which is great for quickly hacking a feature together
sweet trail
wow, no clue how to do that tbh 😄 am not a rust expert by any means.. just learning that
i'm now at traits 😄
sweet trail
Yeah
really enjoy them
so what would you say, will rust be in 2-3yrs a relevant choice in api devment?
graceful basin
yeah, probably
maybe not for quick and dirty things, but if you need to speed something up for whatever reason, I do think rust will be what people will reach for
gritty zinc
In Julia % is the remainder operator, whereas in Python it is the modulus.
lulwut
what's that supposed to mean 😅
honest pawn
graceful basin
the difference is for negative numbers
gritty zinc
julia> -5%2
-1
oh, that's annoying. Different identity
wait, how the hell am I supposed to type this lol
graceful basin
\div tab
gritty zinc
do I even have the division symbol
graceful basin
or just div
gritty zinc
that'll probably go away once I start using an IDE and not the REPL Julia comes with
Julia allows arbitary Unicode variable names? Oh dear
nova phoenix
tiny drum
hi
nova phoenix
hi
tiny drum
anyone have anything better for making email headers easy to look at: https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Email Header
last mantle
damn sebastiaan reacted to this
vapid nymph
he was the first to add the 
last mantle
hmm why tho
last mantle
hm if its that important then i will remove kek
you cant
edgy crest
i k
acoustic moss
nooooooooooo
acoustic moss
it should be pinned tbh
short locust
maybe if it gets to 50 it might get pinned
what does ur nick in this server mean
hollow leaf
👀
twin charm
.topic
median domeBOT
twin charm
Nowhere
edgy crest
that looks worse yk
topaz aurora
Ruby (?)
edgy crest
thats ruby? 
graceful basin
that's julia
gotta say, prefer elm for this
why does it need a special for loop macro
graceful basin
[ h1
[ "Bill Gates' top "
++ (String.fromInt <| length books)
++ "recommended books"
|> text
]
, ul
[]
<|
map (\book -> li [ text book.title ++ " by " ++ book.author ] []) books
]
you can escape html
graceful basin
to be fair, elm is much older than julia
wraith hound
@gaunt bluff Trying to learn NodeJS without JS knowledge is a very bad idea.
Node is just a backend version of JS.
gaunt bluff
@wraith hound i already have a good grasp of python (intermediate) so i can imagine JS will not be too bad
but do you recommend any course
have like 2-3 weeks until i start my internship
wraith hound
I know, but don't learn Node without JS.
gaunt bluff
and they waned me to learn some nodeJS but now i gotta learn some JS basics
wraith hound
JS is easy to learn, but don't jump into a Lamborghini (Node) without knowing how to drive.
gaunt bluff
haha i love that analogy. i see what you're saying here
are you familiar with JS?
or have done JS in the past?
want to see how much JS would i need to know to start dabbling with nodeJS
(or rather how much i can get away with lol)
wraith hound
Yeah, I use JS.
It's a rather simple language.
It should only take you a week or two to learn the basics.
And Node isn't that hard either.
wraith hound
This teaches you most of what you need to know (you don't have to do the whole thing) but it's not a video, it's an interactive course.
https://www.codecademy.com/learn/introduction-to-javascript
mellow spire
https://github.com/Shivansh-007/piston-cli/pull/37 Hey guys could someone test this out if you are a arch user?
last mantle
https://github.com/Shivansh-007/piston-cli/pull/37 Hey guys could someone test t...
yeeeee
what do i do
yay -S piston-cli?
git or bin?
answer please 😔
last mantle
oki
mellow spire
did not try yet
Ok ping me when you do
last mantle
k
gritty zinc
@zenith quail By the way, I had different performance between my jupyter and my optimization venv - the numba function was 4-5 times slower in Jupyter. It turns out this is because of different numba versions - I updated the Jupyter's numba to 0.53.0 (latest for my Python, the same as in the venv) and they match now. So numba version matters a lot.
500 prefixes of length 10 and a million strings of length 50.02 take around 9 seconds for the numba function to crunch through:
A = ["".join(random.choices(string.ascii_letters, k=10)) for i in range(500)]
# noinspection PyTypeChecker
B = [pref + "".join(random.choices(string.ascii_letters, k=50)) for pref in A] * 5
B.extend("".join(random.choices(string.ascii_letters, k=50)) for i in range(1000000))
print("Lengths of A and B:", len(A), len(B))
print(f"Average prefix length:{sum(len(p) for p in A) / len(A)}"
f", average string length: {sum(len(s) for s in B) / len(B)}")
random.shuffle(B)
res, t = time_call(filter_prefixes_numba, A, B)
print(t)
Lengths of A and B: 500 1002500
Average prefix length:10.0, average string length: 50.02493765586035
<bunch of numba warnings about reflected lists omitted>
9.079387363999999
zenith quail
<@!261922507718656001> By the way, I had different performance between my jupyte...
Just finished running on my side with my real data, and it worked perfectly! 🙂 Took much less time than I expected. My work computer ain't the beastiest either. Thanks again, much appreciated and great to know about numba 😛
zealous delta
does anyone know some electricity theory in physics??
rough sapphire
does anyone know some electricity theory in physics??
Whats up?
zealous delta
hey thanks^^ so I'm learning about point charges and electric force, and I was wondering why a material that is easily polarised has a high permittivity?? Shouldn't it be the opposite? @rough sapphire
gritty zinc
the more permittivity, the more displacement from the same electric field, and the more energy stored per unit of volume if you make a capacitor out of it
vapid nymph
.topic
median domeBOT
gritty zinc
@zenith quail Okay, purely for my own curiosity, I did find a trie library: https://github.com/pytries/marisa-trie. This library is horrible in having zero docs, only docstrings on methods, and it's also not compatible with numba. And yet when I used it...
def filter_prefixes_trie(_prefixes: List[str], strs: List[str]) -> List[str]:
prefixes = Trie(_prefixes)
results = []
for s in strs:
for _ in prefixes.iter_prefixes(s):
results.append(s) # only need one
break
return results
I got a 10x speedup compared to the numba version. Instead of 9 seconds on 1 million strings, this takes 0.89 seconds.
...yeeeah. using a proper algorithm sure is amazing.
hilariously, the library lists the prefixes function as being implemented inefficiently
which, like
it certainly still is 10x faster than startswith even for as little as 500 prefixes, lol
zenith quail
<@!261922507718656001> Okay, purely for my own curiosity, I did find a trie libr...
Yeah that's fast indeed. Wish the few programming classes I had in my program did a better job teaching us O optimization and stuff.
graceful basin
I wonder if regex internally implemets a trie
acoustic moss
You know
I'd never once wondered about how regex works internally
Now that I think of it
How on earth does regex work?
Like
Across different languages
Pretty sure itd be more complicated than a for loop over the string
gritty zinc
something something finite automata?
graceful basin
the most naive way is essentially a giant decision tree
enumerate what characters may be next, and see if the character that is next, keep matching
gritty zinc
%timeit any(B[1].startswith(a) for a in A)
93.6 µs ± 3.68 µs per loop (mean ± std. dev. of 7 runs, 10000 loops each)
%timeit trie.prefixes(B[1])
829 ns ± 30.7 ns per loop (mean ± std. dev. of 7 runs, 1000000 loops each)
here's how much faster the trie is, lol
a single startswith call is 200ns, the entire trie check is 800 ns
this is function call speeds
acoustic moss
Didnt notice the ns vs us first lol
graceful basin
try
re.match('^(?:'+'|'.join(A)+')', B[1])
for a library with no docs, these are some nice bindings
huh, weird
weird
why does compiling the regexp make it slower
%timeit re.match('^(?:'+'|'.join(A)+')', B[1])
26.9 µs ± 3.45 µs per loop (mean ± std. dev. of 7 runs, 10000 loops each)
reg = re.compile('^(?:'+'|'.join(A)+')')
%timeit re.match(reg,B[1])
51.1 µs ± 6.95 µs per loop (mean ± std. dev. of 7 runs, 10000 loops each)
this is 4 times faster than startswith, but pretty slow still
graceful basin
guess no tries for regex
gritty zinc
I suspect it doesn't perform literal optimizations like some regexp engines can
hmm, maybe I should also try regex
graceful basin
do you need a specific prefix, or just whether a prefix exists
gritty zinc
just whether it exists
import regex
%timeit regex.match('^(?:'+'|'.join(A)+')', B[1])
46.5 µs ± 2.04 µs per loop (mean ± std. dev. of 7 runs, 10000 loops each)
reg = regex.compile('^(?:'+'|'.join(A)+')')
%timeit regex.match(reg,B[1])
46 µs ± 5.25 µs per loop (mean ± std. dev. of 7 runs, 10000 loops each)
regex is slower, but doesn't have the weird performance loss from compilation
graceful basin
how about
def is_prefix(prefixes, string):
p = set(prefixes)
s = ''
for c in string:
if s in p: return True
s += c
return False
``` (numba will make this slower, since it doesn't optimize +=)well, it certainly won't be faster than the trie, considering 800ns is literally 4-5 function calls or so
lemme see
12.6 µs ± 3.71 µs per loop (mean ± std. dev. of 7 runs, 100000 loops each)
that's quite nice
graceful basin
that is really good
gritty zinc
(and that's after I took the creation of the set outside the function, it's unrealistic to do it for each element)
low chasm
How can I look forward in an iterator in rust without actually moving forward in the iteration
nvm got it
gritty zinc
How can I look forward in an iterator in rust without actually moving forward in...
itertools.peekable, I love it a lot
low chasm
Would .nth not work?
gritty zinc
Returns the nth element of the iterator.
Like most indexing operations, the count starts from zero, so nth(0) returns the first value, nth(1) the second, and so on.
Note that all preceding elements, as well as the returned element, will be consumed from the iterator. That means that the preceding elements will be discarded, and also that calling nth(0) multiple times on the same iterator will return different elements.
nth() will return None if n is greater than or equal to the length of the iterator.
that's just for skipping a few, no.
vapid nymph
nvm it'll work
understandable
low chasm
Also, say I have a vec with the below values 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 And I want to insert 7 to the vec, how can I found out at what index it will be at? In this case, it can't be the last index, because there could be 8, 9, 10 pushed on the vec, with no 7.
low chasm
it does
Alright, I want to insert it into the vec
Actually, I worded this wrong
Alright, say my vec has all the numbers up till 6, and I want to add 7 to my vec, how can I know what index the seven will be at, before pushing it onto the vec
I want to keep track of its index before its pushed
gritty zinc
...the index the element will be put at when you push it is going to be vec.length(), always, because it's the current end
low chasm
Yeah, but say I have 8 on the vec, and I want to insert 7 before it
BUT, before I insert it, I want to know what index it will be at
And after I have the index, I want to insert it
gritty zinc
...at the index you pass to insert?
low chasm
yes
gritty zinc
are you perhaps trying to find the index to insert an element at to maintain sorted order?
low chasm
Uh, yeah
gritty zinc
ah, that can be found quickly via binary search, and I bet there's a method for it.
low chasm
I can give you context if you want
gritty zinc
f the value is found then Result::Ok is returned, containing the index of the matching element. If there are multiple matches, then any one of the matches could be returned. If the value is not found then Result::Err is returned, containing the index where a matching element could be inserted while maintaining sorted order.
rough sapphire
How to create something like this ```
.................║▒
.................║▒▒
.................║░▒║
.................║░▒║
.................║░▒║
.................║░▒║
.................║░▒║
.................║░▒║
.................║░▒║
.................║░▒║
.................║░▒║
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.................║░▒║
...............▓▓▓▓▓▓
................ ]█▓[.....
. . . . . . ....]█▓[......
Oh, cool
I'll check that out, thanks :D
Hm
But thats after the value is inserted
I want to know where it'll be inserted before its inserted
graceful basin
It returns where you should insert to maintain sorted order
low chasm
Its for my stack in my programming language, my language is divided into four parts, the lexer, parser, compiler, and VM. In my compiler, I generate opcodes from my AST. My opcodes look like this ```
(LOAD_VALUE, 0)
huh
OH yeah I didn't read enough of it lmfao
hold on
my stack doesn't have a particular order
I just push and pop things as I go
wait i think .length might work
shit
strange musk
Anyone know how somone searches for the latest papers with relevance + latest ones?
I usually don't realize when a previous method is antiquated
gritty zinc
my stack doesn't have a particular order
then what do you mean by "where should it be inserted"? 😅
gritty zinc
...to vec[vec.length()]?
low chasm
I overthought it lmfao
I think i got it
let index = self
.stack
.inner_stack
.iter()
.position(|x| x == self.constant_table.last().unwrap())
.unwrap();
this makes me anxious about whether self.constant_table.last().unwrap() will be calculated once or for every iter
I hope it's once
but I don't know why would it be
tardy rain
Rust, more like unwrap bonanza
gritty zinc
how dare you use Rust, don't you care about the environment
discarding all these wraps like that...
wraith hound
Yes, Python 2 is far past EoL.
low chasm
lol
vapid nymph
APPARENTLY ITS NOT
vapid nymph
Yes, Python 2 is far past EoL.
wraith hound
NICE
young shoal
surely
vapid nymph
help me.
mellow spire
failed to retrieve packages :(
screenshot?
quartz ermine
How to create something like this ```
.................║▒\
.................║▒▒\...
Buncha print statements
tranquil orchid
@dusky mulch but anyway yeah, given their price if they can run linux it sounds like a solid option to me
dusky mulch
<@!780770733546536980> but anyway yeah, given their price if they can run linux ...
yeah
dusky mulch
<@!780770733546536980> but anyway yeah, given their price if they can run linux ...
but still u cant uninstall chromes os from chromebook
dusky mulch
<@!780770733546536980> but anyway yeah, given their price if they can run linux ...
u can use linux inside chromeOS like using linux inside windows
tranquil orchid
Oh as in a virtual machine?
edgy crest
you can unlock full linux from chromeOS iirc
tranquil orchid
Hopefully, that would be far more ideal
dusky mulch
Hopefully, that would be far more ideal
yeah so its actually great to buy a chromebook
instead of a normal lappy
solid elbow
My day to day personal laptop is a Chromebook. I'm a fan. My biggest complaint with them is the very limited storage. Make sure you buy one with an SD card slot or something. Beyond that, great little machines
scarlet wind
What is python 2?
inland wolf
the second version of python
last mantle
damn
mellow spire
screenshot?
@last mantle 🏓
narrow pecan
Sadly, it’s still not completely dead
edgy crest
@mellow spire you can copy my PKGBUILD
just include the pip package and AUR should handle it
mellow spire
<@!736234578745884682> you can copy my PKGBUILD
link?
mellow spire
just include the pip package and AUR should handle it
we are using github releases instead
rough sapphire
Ayo
edgy crest
@mellow spire the package is broken
first of all, piston-cli-bin should install the binary
but it starts building it
even after building it, it does not add the package to the bin folder
so you cant use the binary
basically does not really install it
and so if you want to uninstall, you cant
and you have got unecessary files in the yay cache folder
gurkeeep's problem is a mirror one, nothing related to the package
delicate sky
lol
mellow spire
you can get the sha256 from the pypi package info
Can you tell how to fix it?
Or maybe comment the fix on the or
PR
scarlet wind
the second version of python
deep
earnest mortar
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
last mantle
yes, jjjjjj
mild cove
simple question that isnt worthy of help channel - is poetry worth it to use instead of setup.py ?
finite sierra
poetry makes life super easy
publishing your package is literally just one command
poetry publish --build
last mantle
i find using a setup.py more convenient
how do you use a setup.py file
just python setup.py or some other unique features?
solid pollen
It is ran by pip on install
You usually just use twine to package it and you are good to go
Hmmmm maybe it is also run during packaging
edgy crest
yeah if you are using twine, you gotta build first, which runs the setup.py file and stores the dist and build folder + egg file in your current directory
then you can upload the dist folder with twine on pypi
twin charm
@rugged echo mind sending that iconic photo which has a beautiful frame?
rugged echo
twin charm
edgy crest
bruh
rugged echo
lol
inland wolf
no
rough sapphire
is python 2 ded yet
graceful basin
more or less yes
rough sapphire
why 🖌️
graceful basin
because it is worse than python 3
rough sapphire
Does anyone know how to get the formatting right, I want to paste this in Adobe Reader
but it only show it like this
Is it possible?
acoustic moss
latex?
rough sapphire
Adobe pdf reader Pro version
rough sapphire
Does anyone know how to get the formatting right, I want to paste this in Adobe ...
The first image is from some forum
acoustic moss
in general you use latex for making pdfs with mathsy formatting
it's a markup(down?) language kinda thing
rough sapphire
They way I'm submitting assignments so far is to edit the pdf we got with a text field
harsh tundra
it's a markup(down?) language kinda thing
markup
markdown is a specific markup that is used by e.g. reddit, github, discord...
acoustic moss
Hmm
harsh tundra
They way I'm submitting assignments so far is to edit the pdf we got with a text...
Uc = Uo*e^(-t/(R*C)) should be easily understandable by the teacher. ^ is used to denote "up", so superscript - any powers etc. (it's also like that in latex)
while _ is used for subscript but here "Uc" and "Uo" should be clear anyway
acoustic moss
Huh
sterile sapphire
what is going on
rough sapphire
acoustic moss
Self bot?
sterile sapphire
he said the same thing in #python-discussion
rough sapphire
Thanks I will do it like that
sterile sapphire
yeah I got no clue what's going on
rough sapphire
The free (as speech) PDF tool, Okular, supports this functionality by putting latex formula directly between $$...$$.
There are a few solutions on stackoverflow like:
but I just want to get it done quick without downloading that
sterile sapphire
it probably is a self bot
acoustic moss
Anyway
twin charm
remember the person who used to send twitter links
rough sapphire
remember the person who used to send twitter links
Yeah
used to?
so not anymore?
narrow pecan
The issue with # as a prefix is that it's really difficult use, considering that Discord will suggest channel names when you start typing the commands
sterile sapphire
yeah someone told him to stop
acoustic moss
Same with @ i guess
narrow pecan
Yeah
twin charm
so not anymore?
well they said that they werent a self bot. but it was sus how they sent it perfectly. once a day always in a specific hour
acoustic moss
Bleh
sterile sapphire
I just thought it was them trying to get clout
acoustic moss
Ngl i am not really bothered by selfbots
Like sure
They break tos and all
Idrc
twin charm
yeah
narrow pecan
If you were to guess, why do you think that Discord disallows them?
sterile sapphire
spam?
twin charm
If you were to guess, why do you think that Discord disallows them?
you cant really know if it is a person behind the screen is sending the message or not.
sterile sapphire
If you were to guess, why do you think that Discord disallows them?
there's this army of KFC bots on Nick White's server
acoustic moss
Lol
narrow pecan
Doesn't spam, mass DMs and all of that bother you?
acoustic moss
Kfc bot in pydis when
twin charm
lemme join that server
quick bay
also they read the whole chat
sterile sapphire
it's a well known scam
but Nick can't figure out how to block them based on their messages
sterile sapphire
apparently the bots don't work??
sterile sapphire
lmao i was testing out one of my bots
oh nah that ain't gonna work
twin charm
Doesn't spam, mass DMs and all of that bother you?
it would bother me if it was a DM and spam.
acoustic moss
Doesn't spam, mass DMs and all of that bother you?
Ignore them at best, block at worst 🥴
acoustic moss
lmao i was testing out one of my bots
Dont self bot
twin charm
not all bots are self bots kiddo.
acoustic moss
What
acoustic moss
I mean
If a bot sent a message through your acc
hot dove
I put in my token 
rough sapphire
Kfc bot in pydis when
I had that kfc bot in another server, DMing people, he got banned real quick
twin charm
I mean
If a bot sent a message through your acc
well what if its a non tos-breaking bot?
quick bay
self botting still is self botting?
twin charm
I'm not talking about self bots
quick bay
no matter what it does
acoustic moss
Ok
hot dove
I'm trying to make a chatbot that uses an AI to respond to other peoples' messages
sterile sapphire
guys
twin charm
yes?
sterile sapphire
leave him alone
rough sapphire
def bot(self)?
sterile sapphire
mods are handling it
hot dove
leave him alone
thank u zuko
edgy crest
`def bot(self)`?
self.bot = bot
hot dove
besides i wouldnt selfbot on an account i literally spend money on
thats just plain stupid
acoustic moss
Lol
hot dove
acoustic moss
Idek my token lol
hot dove
I have mine in a notepad
acoustic moss
Ok
edgy crest
Ok
quick bay
anyone know where i should go to learn how to set up a git and stuff like that>
twin charm
Ok
rough sapphire
🆗
edgy crest
anyone know where i should go to learn how to set up a git and stuff like that>
which os
quick bay
windows
edgy crest
idk
hot dove
search on yt
twin charm
anyone know where i should go to learn how to set up a git and stuff like that>
https://google.com this is a good website I found today morning to learn
edgy crest
ask hahastinky
hot dove
"how to setup git windows 10"
acoustic moss
anyone know where i should go to learn how to set up a git and stuff like that>
Mosh's tutorial is ok
Best way to learn it is to use it
quick bay
okey dokey thanks
twin charm
"how to setup git windows 10"
corey schafder's tutorial is what I learned from
edgy crest
if you dont have any projects to contribute to theres this really nice open source group..
acoustic moss
there's like 5 or 6 commands you'll be using regularly
rich moon
there is only really a few commands that u will actually commonly use
honest star
anyone know where i should go to learn how to set up a git and stuff like that>
gitkraken has some good resources
rough sapphire
I tried to set git up but failed to connect it to github somehow. SSH connection / toke or something
acoustic moss
if you dont have any projects to contribute to theres this really nice open sour...
👀
hot dove
I just use it for looking at other peoples' code and hopefully finding an error and then fixing it for them
twin charm
o no its 10 o clock
edgy crest
true
twin charm
if you dont have any projects to contribute to theres this really nice open sour...
which one? are you gonna say 'python discord' 🤣 ?
acoustic moss
I don't use github
I mean
Its not necessary for you to use github for using git
edgy crest
which one? are you gonna say 'python discord' 🤣 ?
was gonna say gurkult
acoustic moss
gurkuly
twin charm
Oii
narrow pecan
gurklang is great
twin charm
the lord has awoken
rough sapphire
g u r k l a n g
twin charm
the lord has awoken
did I spell it right? (awaken?)
acoustic moss
Awkakwen
twin charm
ok thanks
acoustic moss
Np
twin charm
.topic
median domeBOT
twin charm
cliche topic
acoustic moss
Pydis media 
twin charm
well all of them are cliched
narrow pecan
sterile sapphire
sebastian doesn't evoke any imagery in my head other than his face
edgy crest
sterile sapphire
am I making any sense
twin charm
sebastian doesn't evoke any imagery in my head other than his face
all lemon and joe emojis are his face
sterile sapphire
median domeBOT
twin charm
🔴 and 🟠
last mantle
hmm
twin charm
.topic
median domeBOT
twin charm
hm.
Rice pancakes with Sambar curry.
Puri with Bhaji (I cant choose between the two :( )
edgy crest
dosa i think
twin charm
rice pancakes are dosas. idlis are steam cooked
sterile sapphire
oh
edgy crest
idlis are steamed
sterile sapphire
whoops
I like this one dosa spot in NY
I've been going there ever since I was little
twin charm
you live in NY?
sterile sapphire
yeah
edgy crest
oh so you are american indian?
rough sapphire
whatever chutney my mom makes for the rice pancakes, i always ask for podi :D (s a coarse powder mixture of ground dry spices that typically contains dried chilis, urad (bean), chickpea, and sesame seeds.)
last mantle
you are indian?
rough sapphire
mhm
acoustic moss
Arent we all
last mantle
ye its like, pydis is raided by indians
sterile sapphire
oh so you are american indian?
well both my parents are Indian I was born in the US
I am only "American" bc I was born in America
edgy crest
oh ok
acoustic moss
Do you like to watch cricket
acoustic moss
Not an indian then /s
acoustic moss
Lol
edgy crest
i did like to watch cricket when i played it but i dont like it anymore
edgy crest
also i went to the calcutta stadium 3 years ago to watch IPL 
sterile sapphire
I feel bad for the really talented Indian footballers
like India does not care about footbal
at all
sterile sapphire
if you're Indian your football career ended before it even started
acoustic moss
Hm
sterile sapphire
unless you're in another country
preferably europe or south america
North America has no talent
acoustic moss
Lol
sterile sapphire
it's a shame
you have to pay
to play for teams
also MLS has no demotion of teams
there are no inferior leagues
so there's no quality control
it's pathetic
acoustic moss
Cant have quality control if theres no quality
sterile sapphire
all the good American players
they all play overseas
they don't play in the MLS
Hmmmmm I wonder why
acoustic moss
Lol
sterile sapphire
and he dominated the league too
Schweinsteiger dominated the league too
with Chicago Fire
David Villa
these european superstars destroy MLS teams
bc the quality of football in Europe is 10x better than MLS
acoustic moss
yeah
sterile sapphire
with Messi and Ronaldo slowly fading
Mbappe and Haaland are taking over
god knows what Neymar is doing
Neymar wasted his own potential so badly that Mbappe is the world's superstar not him
last mantle
can i run discord bots in docker containers??
and is there any advantage in doing so?
vapid nymph
vapid nymph
can i run discord bots in docker containers??
and is there any advantage in doin...
no its impossible to run a bot in docker
100% possible
nah im kidding @royal lake, @median dome, and @polar knoll all run in their own docker container
graceful basin
you get the advantage of easy deployment in anything you want
last mantle
i see
last rivet
First time I went to stackoverflow and I already felt like I was gonna be heading there for hours.
harsh tundra
lol. so many levels
vapid nymph
lol. so many levels
!pypi verboselogs
royal lakeBOT
vapid nymph
!pypi coloredlogs
royal lakeBOT
vapid nymph
hmmm
harsh tundra
normal levels are enough for me. I just add -v flag to drop logs to stodout and --debug flag to set logging level to debug (by default I log info, but I also made a flag --info in my general argparser)
last rivet
Your average sunrise in about 5 billion years be like:
acoustic moss
yes
last mantle
There will be no earth tho haha
last rivet
I never talked about the earth being there though.
last mantle
There will be no sunrise then
last rivet
Bad joke time:
If you are what you eat, then don't eat vegetables, or else you will be in a drum noises
Vegetable state.
tardy rain
Bro stop
low chasm
lmfao
last rivet
.topic
median domeBOT
shrewd prawn
calm dawn
Personally I don't see how that helps but ok
rough sapphire
It helps
I'd say
My first thought seeing the science help channels was "huh, they have dedicated help channels for Python packages"
acoustic moss
Yeah they had to remove help-selenium lol
rough sapphire
Not only that 😄 Elements also sound like they refer to actual packages, not the element themselves
glossy elk
But it actully nice to have help channels
rough sapphire
Yeah
shrewd prawn
i didnt even know abt selenium when i saw the help channel, so when someone mentioned selenium, i thought they were talking abt the help channel lol
acoustic moss
Lol
glossy elk
LOL
acoustic moss
Bs4 and selenium were two of the first python libs id discovered for ...reasons
glossy elk
It's for web scraping r?
acoustic moss
Yes
rough sapphire
i think its against their tos
calm dawn
In case you didn't know
vapid nymph
In case you didn't know
I take it you mean double barreled shotgun
harsh tundra
does it need to be double-barrelled? in games shotfun usually has large area it covers (on small distance), so I imagine it's like shrapnels?
"A shotgun shell, shotshell or simply shell is a type of rimmed, cylindrical (straight-walled) cartridges used specifically by shotguns, and is typically loaded with numerous small, pellet-like spherical sub-projectiles called shot"
^Wikipedia
calm dawn
Why are there so many other nerds here :D
low chasm
Why are there so many other nerds here :D
its all nerds
delicate sky
lol
low chasm
uh
low chasm
lol
delicate sky
@calm dawn
this is what would a among us crewmate say: "wait it's all nerds?"
this is what would a among us impostor say: "always has been"
calm dawn
good to know
hollow leaf
Hm 🙂
vapid nymph
joe you got this wrong
last rivet
++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.
``` why is brainf🧠ck a hightlighted language for syntax highlighting...They really like esolang.
edgy crest
tbf i dont really know but i give that name to my function which does the tokenization before parsing
i think it actually does mean tokenization
topaz aurora
lex?
low chasm
please explain like i'm 5
Alright, sure
A lexer basically takes a string input and tokenizes it
Say I have print("hi") as source code, the lexer will take this string and produce the following ```
PRINT
LBRACKET
STRING
RBRACKET
nice
low chasm
These lexed tokens are usually (or at least in my case) are passed to the parser in order to be parsed into an ast
rough sapphire
and is gonna be statically typed and interpreted
low chasm
I VERY highly suggest reading craftinginterpreters
rough sapphire
it's in java :pain:
low chasm
The second part is in C
low chasm
The second part is in C
The concepts still apply
You can take a look at my source code if you want
rough sapphire
i found a lib for it
low chasm
It's in rust, but the contets will still apply
rough sapphire
!pypi sly
royal lakeBOT
low chasm
i found a lib for it
Look into the lark library
royal lakeBOT
rough sapphire
it's both a parser & lexer
low chasm
If you want to, maybe try making the parser and lexer yourself
rough sapphire
i'll test out stuff
low chasm
it's both a parser & lexer
Yeah it is
I highly recommend lark
I used it a while back
rough sapphire
@low chasm how did you make the site?
low chasm
<@!416345453530054657> how did you make the site?
What site?
rough sapphire
for ur language
edgy crest
@low chasm bro
2 clones is not ok 
why did you clone in the for loop
scrolling through you have more clones
that could affect performance a lot
acoustic moss
Begun the clone wars have
edgy crest
you are cloning a lot of things not just the lexer iterator
i dont understand why
here you can omit the Expr::String arm all together right
ree clone is everywhere 
you will have to fix those later
topaz aurora
Lark is really nice
last mantle
this is better but then, wumpus is ugly