ot1-perplexing-regexing

[surreal otter]

straight fascism?

[bright solar]

republicans are individuals

[surreal otter]

500,000 dead Americans?

[bright solar]

each candidate has different thoughts

[surreal otter]

1 dead Capitol officer?

err, 3?

[bright solar]

biden killed 100k people in one month

[surreal otter]

?

[bright solar]

idk what he did different

[surreal otter]

biden killed 100k people?

[bright solar]

yes if trump killed 400k then biden killed 100k

[surreal otter]

Obama broke the economy in 08 as well?

[bright solar]

nope it was bill clintons first time home buying mortgage regulations

[surreal otter]

Trump fucked America's COVID response, likely thee world's

[bright solar]

that caused mortgage bubble

[surreal otter]

Not Reagan's deregulation of banks"

Not Reagan who allowed the banks to make those shitty loans?

[bright solar]

lmao imagine both

imagine deregulating banks and then forcing them to consume bad mortgages

its like oil and match

[surreal otter]

'force them' like they weren't hiring people to sell shit loans all day

they knew precisely what they were doing

they were pushing shit products for profit

act like they're victims

[bright solar]

they couldnt say no

[surreal otter]

lol

[bright solar]

what fire everyone and start a new business?

that would go better lmao

[surreal otter]

You are not very well learned

so I'm gonna go

[bright solar]

first time home buyer legislation bro

[surreal otter]

YOu clearly have zero understanding of 2008

[bright solar]

LMAO

[surreal otter]

🙂

[bright solar]

Im literally an algo trader

data engineer for a public company

am i the evil one because i studied for 6 years from sleeping on the floor in highschool to over 6 figure income?

im the bourgeoisie

so many allnighters im bald at 26

because socialism took my families home and farm?

in cuba?

[rough sapphire]

Guys I have a .rar file in my pc and idk why i cannot delete it!!!!!! Do you think u can help me?

[rough sapphire]

Respects 🙏

[cinder monolith]

[carmine niche]

erm

why can't you delete it?

[undone helm]

I once had a dream where a ET(Alien) led me through a blizzard to a giant igloo. Inside that igloo was a bunch of ETs(Aliens) pushing around shopping carts and picking out crystal chandeliers.

[bright solar]

isnt that pokemon plot?

[vapid nymph]

@remote socket not bot cmds

O

Now i see you said u must go smh

[remote socket]

rip lol

cya

[vapid nymph]

Bye

[undone helm]

@bright solar im not sure but i did watch pokemon when i was younger

[undone helm]

wierd deja vu

[topaz aurora]

I'm bad at forms

[inland wolf]

looks nice ngl

[tribal aurora]

u are

lol

[inland wolf]

whats wrong with it

?

the style?

or functionality?

[tribal aurora]

i mean, i don't like anything about it

it's not like, modern

[topaz aurora]

Define modern

Modern as in fancy or modern as in bloat?

Because I'm not aiming for neither

[inland wolf]

i feel like the login button should have a different bg color from the textboxes tho

[edgy crest]

it looks perfectly fine to me

[topaz aurora]

Much better I suppose

[edgy crest]

hmm, i think the previous one is better

but tbh, the background is smooth so as long the colors match the contrast it looks good

[inland wolf]

lol thats a nice looking sandwich

[rough sapphire]

hmm should i ask my python doubt here?

[last mantle]

You can

[narrow pecan]

That looks pretty cool! Reminds me of the sand-ish light mode themes as well

[harsh tundra]

Ugh. I need to listen through a lot of training videos at work. We need some people to do those certs so the company can get some new partner certification

I did courses for that when I started working here. But it seems everything is a video now. And I have to actually play them to finish each step

While the tests that are there after some steps last time were doable with just the docs. They used literal phrases from there, just making them into questions...

[acoustic moss]

fuck im fucking scared

so i downloaded the linux mint iso, flashed it to a usb drive, put the usb drive in my laptop

[twin charm]

and?

[acoustic moss]

and restarted my laptop

[twin charm]

ok

[acoustic moss]

and while booting

[twin charm]

hm?

[acoustic moss]

it showed me the linux mint logo, and a countdown like "automatic booting in 10..9.."

countdown is over

[twin charm]

k.

[acoustic moss]

im staring at a blank black screen now

with no loading bar or anything

fuck

[twin charm]

but how are you sending message

[acoustic moss]

in another laptop

bruh

[twin charm]

other device

kk

[twin charm]

I heard that it takes a lot of time

doesnt it

[acoustic moss]

i dont know

[twin charm]

couple of hours

[acoustic moss]

what

[twin charm]

idk I saw a tutorial on how to make a bootable usb and they said it would take so long

"wait forever for it to boot up"

[acoustic moss]

i have no problem with waiting

it's the blank screen that's scaring me

[twin charm]

o yea

like ur pc broke

relatable on 2gb ram pc

when there is a black screen with only the cursor on the screen. so scary

[acoustic moss]

i dont even see the cursor lmao

[twin charm]

lmao

[acoustic moss]

it's entirely blank

why did I decide to do this

[twin charm]

update me on what happens

[acoustic moss]

fuck

[twin charm]

k

I think I've showed you screenshot of my 2 iso's right? you know why I didnt flash it into my usb?

[acoustic moss]

why

[twin charm]

because I dont have a spare usb

[acoustic moss]

k.

[twin charm]

haha

[quick ledge]

did you install mint to your system?

[twin charm]

I think when I get a good pc, I will just partition the c drive and install it

[acoustic moss]

wdym?

[twin charm]

pretty sure they are live booting it

not installing it

[acoustic moss]

I downloaded iso, flashed to usb, put in usb, restarted laptop

as per docs

[quick ledge]

didn't you have select boot device?

open uefi/bios settings and turn secure boot off

and try again

[last mantle]

yeah

[acoustic moss]

when I restarted, I pressed f2, and it showed the linux mint logo, started auto coutndown

[last mantle]

microsoft has it enabled for all laptops

and linux forums rant about how microsoft is evil

[quick ledge]

you have not installed mint yet

so you'll be fine

[acoustic moss]

how do I proceed

[quick ledge]

press the power button

[acoustic moss]

ah that I can do

aight

i pressed power button to turn it off, then pressed it again to turn it on

when it showed mint logo again, i pressed esc

currently it shows a prompt like
boot:

[inland wolf]

whats the issue?

[last mantle]

non windows issue

[twin charm]

haha

[inland wolf]

no whats the actual issue?

not booting?

[last mantle]

yeah

black screen

[twin charm]

black screen or something

[inland wolf]

turn secure boot off

[twin charm]

just wait for like 3h and then check again lol

what is secure boot tho

@inland wolf

[inland wolf]

well all it has done for me is make sure i boot into windows

so

[last mantle]

its enforced by microsoft ig

all laptops have it on by default

[inland wolf]

well it is good for non techy ppl

if they plug in some bad os

somehow

it wont boot into it

[last mantle]

yes windows <3

[inland wolf]

yes

[acoustic moss]

shut shut

[twin charm]

hehe

[acoustic moss]

it shows me a menu kinda thing

[twin charm]

oh cool

[inland wolf]

does it look friendly

?

[twin charm]

whats shown in that

[inland wolf]

or send pic

[acoustic moss]

Welcome to linux mint 19.2
start mint
start in compatibility mode
start with pae
oem install

integrity check

[twin charm]

wow

[acoustic moss]

memory test

[twin charm]

kewl

[acoustic moss]

boot from drive

[inland wolf]

start mint? or oem install

ok

linux is minting

[twin charm]

hah

[acoustic moss]

do I do start mint?

[inland wolf]

i assume that starts it live from the usb

[twin charm]

hahastinkypoop did it work

[acoustic moss]

prolly not, wait

[twin charm]

k.

[inland wolf]

bruh

[acoustic moss]

back to blank screen

[twin charm]

yea just wait for 3h

[inland wolf]

all u can do is wait

[twin charm]

yeah

[inland wolf]

:)

[twin charm]

B)

[last mantle]

or, both of you can be wrong

[acoustic moss]

?

[inland wolf]

bruh

[twin charm]

not gonna hurt in waiting for some time

[last mantle]

yeah, just said

[twin charm]

hmmhm

[acoustic moss]

still nothing...

[twin charm]

wait dude

like keep the laptop aside

overnight

[acoustic moss]

bruh

[last mantle]

lol

[twin charm]

is ur usb usb 3.0

read and write speed

[last mantle]

2.0 works fine

[twin charm]

what is that

[last mantle]

usb naming schemes are horrible

[twin charm]

7mbps

or smth

read and write

[last mantle]

500 mbps

[twin charm]

wth

[last mantle]

i dont think it will be that slow

but yeah , usb 3 is better

[twin charm]

I know for sure that 2.0 is less than 10mbps

[twin charm]

yes, comparatively

[twin charm]

wth

[last mantle]

note that this is the max speed possible (i guess)

[twin charm]

hm

[last mantle]

usb 3.2 gen 2

[acoustic moss]

my only concern is whether it's supposed to be a black screen while booting

[last mantle]

tf is that naming

[last mantle]

idts

[acoustic moss]

...fuck

[twin charm]

what is idts

[acoustic moss]

i don't think so

[last mantle]

manjaro live boot is very clean and nice

[twin charm]

hahastinkypoop lets share a moment of silence

[acoustic moss]

no

[twin charm]

ok

[last mantle]

no worries, my bios did not recognise windows last week and i had to switch to linux

things happen

[acoustic moss]

uh sure

[last mantle]

btw did you guys see mars rover land?

[twin charm]

yes..

[solid pollen]

I saw some bits and pieces from it

[twin charm]

not the landing video. but a news segment

[acoustic moss]

aight im giving up now

i'll give it another shot tonight/tomorrow

[twin charm]

patience is very high in u

[acoustic moss]

ok

[twin charm]

mmk

[twin charm]

is there actual footage?

like animated amiritte

[acoustic moss]

no

actual footage

from cameras on the thing

[twin charm]

oh lol

btw did you guys see mars rover land?
No.

[twin charm]

are the cameras better than my nokia 3301?

[inland wolf]

lol

[twin charm]

lol

[last mantle]

i stayed up till 1 to see it live haha

[twin charm]

lol

[last mantle]

so what

[twin charm]

1pm?

[last mantle]

1 am

[twin charm]

so nothing

[last mantle]

quality is not based on megapixels :|

[twin charm]

bruh.

[inland wolf]

true

unless its 0.0001 megapixels

[tribal aurora]

my grandpa's camera is better than that :|

[twin charm]

same

my grandpa had a 4mp camera on his nokia

had* 🥲

[last mantle]

i highly doubt that lol

[strange musk]

The equipment sent to mars is too specialized. You cant expect it to use 4K

[last mantle]

yeah

the yt stream was in 1080p soo

its the fault of phone manufacturers of promoting mp's all the time

[white thunder]

What kind of compression would they even use to send those images back?

[last mantle]

over 35 gb data was sent

[tribal aurora]

but that doesn't really take that much space

[last mantle]

so compression is not that high i guess

[white thunder]

2mp may be easier to send back, lower latency and whatnot

[last mantle]

ok, nvm , 4k footage takes a lot of space

some compression was involved ig

not a lot

the hype for perseverance is good and all but

why was no one talking about new horizons

or cassini huygens

like those missions were so cool

[white thunder]

my thought being, if you have a 12mp cam taking super high quality images it would take FOREVER to travel back

[white thunder]

Truth

im listening to Voice0, and i dont feel like such a posh for my 3 monitor setup now

[strange musk]

It's not about space - whatever equipment is sent has to be resistant to dirt, dust, heat, radiation etc. The toughest things are not the most powerful.

[last mantle]

well the hazcams of the rover itself have high quality 1080p footage

[strange musk]

The priority is reliability - not quality

and there is no problem in the bandwidth. their communications are pretty heavy

there is a constant stream of data from every single sensor on the rover + sats

[white thunder]

Its the shipping barge theory, Yes we could get the product moved on speedboats, but how many boxes could you loose, or how many rocks could you collide with

[last mantle]

well, they got over like 20k images ig in just a day

[strange musk]

well, I haven't heard of that theory 🤷 but its a pretty good analogy

[last mantle]

so communications is no problem at all

[strange musk]

no

The reason for all that data is that they can conduct simulations on exactly what could/would happen

[white thunder]

I work for a pretty weird company, where analogies like that come up

[last mantle]

as long as the orbiter is in sight, a constant stream of data can be sent

[strange musk]

not necessarily - all NASA sats in the orbit are configured to carry and broadcast data in case of a failure

Tho I learnt this a good time ago, so my info may be outdated 🤷

[last mantle]

well if the rover has no direct contact with earth, the orbiter is its only hope of contact

[strange musk]

True

[last mantle]

i wonder what new horizons is doing rn

haha

[white thunder]

NASA needs a Santa tracker for the rover...

And its not like it could get away. it travels less than 1mph

[last mantle]

but the planet rotates

even if the rover was faster, it would be of no use

[strange musk]

I don't see the problem if the planet rotates; NASA probably has precomputed trajectories

[last mantle]

the satellite must be a polar satellite

to have constant comms with both earth and the rover

[strange musk]

its not directly rover to sat to earth per se

[last mantle]

it can be

[strange musk]

Rover --> Lander --> orbiter --> ISS (sometimes, depends) --> NASA

[last mantle]

lander?

[strange musk]

yep

[last mantle]

uhh where is the lander?

[edgy crest]

land

[strange musk]

It has the main equipment that allows it to communicate to orbiter since rover's antenna does not have that kind of range

[last mantle]

wait

the rover was dropped off from the lander

and wasnt the lander destroyed?

the only thing remaining in the mission is the rover

thats it

[strange musk]

Hmm.. then does the rover directly comm via DSN?

[acoustic moss]

linux mint up and running bois! 🎉

[tribal aurora]

Noice

wait, how long have you been installing mint

:/

[acoustic moss]

hello fellow linuxer

[solid pollen]

Nice

[acoustic moss]

couple hours, heh

[tribal aurora]

i mean

u told that ur installing mint yesterday

[solid pollen]

Welcome to the soulless gang

[tribal aurora]

and it finished now?

[last mantle]

it probably has a medium gain antenna that transmits directly to the orbiter

[acoustic moss]

i've been taking it slow :P

[last mantle]

and thats why its important that the orbiter and the rover are in contact

also, note that during the landing phase, the rover lost contact with earth for like 7 minutes

because the orbiter had a power outage or something

[edgy crest]

[last mantle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/472490455096098827.gif?v=1

thanks

[white thunder]

Isnt there an issue that comes up when the rockets return to earth where they loose contact for a few seconds at touchdown because of propagation or earth curve or something like that?

[acoustic moss]

[inland wolf]

goodbye, for now

[acoustic moss]

👀

the linux mint server was pretty cool

[twin charm]

bruh you left windows gang

[acoustic moss]

lol no

i'm still on windows

linux is my side bitch

for now at least

[twin charm]

linux mint booted finally?!

[twin charm]

nvm

howz it

[twin charm]

hahaha

[acoustic moss]

looks really neat

haven't messed around too much, yet

[solid pollen]

yes, mint has no soul

[acoustic moss]

👀

[sterile sapphire]

i have no soul

[strange musk]

why mint?

[twin charm]

sad

[strange musk]

Linux GUI is already so bad

[acoustic moss]

ok

[twin charm]

huff, judging os based on GUI. windows gui is good but really dumb and buggy

[strange musk]

well, you cant beat MacOS's GUI

actually, I hate windows 🙂 thats why I use Ubuntu

[twin charm]

macos is bloated anyway. gui not gonna change anything

[strange musk]

macos is pretty great

especially with the m1

[twin charm]

okay

good for people trying to use the internet, watch movies, listen to music etc using its default apps. can we do anything else with macOS?

[strange musk]

well, its the goto platform for creative professionals

[twin charm]

gosh, are you even allowed to see the file extensions of files in mac?

lol

[strange musk]

well, use it once and its hard not to like it

if only the hardware wasnt that expensive

[last mantle]

its purposely expensive

[strange musk]

somewhat yeah

[last mantle]

also, they just dont care about customisation

nor do they care a lot about their thermals

[strange musk]

well, you don't need much thermals with the m1

it is designed to be high perf and passively cooled

[last mantle]

throttling is still a thing though

the intel ones were shit though

glad that m1 is here

[strange musk]

agreed. they expect for heavy workloads, you should invest in Mac

[last mantle]

this

hmm wait

[strange musk]

well, they try to make our life a bit easier

[last mantle]

no they dont

[strange musk]

what customization you cant do in mac?

[last mantle]

i would love to have a fully customisable pc

i am guessing that you cant put any gpu you want in a mac

i can be wrong

[strange musk]

That's the mac philosphy. making things simple.

[strange musk]

no

[last mantle]

i see

[strange musk]

but in Mac you can. not in MB

[last mantle]

well laptops are not customisable anyways

[strange musk]

true

still, when you do customization, stuff doesn't always work. FOr ex. I make a GNOME customization with people saying it was pretty stable. broke my whole GUI in 1st update

In Apple's ecosystem, stuff just works.

[edgy crest]

pure linux is not meant for gui

we use the terminal

[strange musk]

Thought that was more with jobs

[strange musk]

yeah, but not for everything

You cant expect me to use discord on terminal

[last mantle]

kde works very well

[edgy crest]

i mean, i do everything except browsing in the terminal

[strange musk]

your choice 🤷

I dont like it

[edgy crest]

and the browser wont affect gui, despite the system

[strange musk]

it does actually - fonts and rendering

[last mantle]

anyways, for the same cost, you can get an awesome pc compared to a similarly priced mac

[strange musk]

webapps look much more prettier on mac. I know this firsthand

they have more proprietary fonts and graphics (eg. memoji)

[last mantle]

i hate memojis with all my life lol

[white thunder]

^Preach

[strange musk]

plus their screens are a bit better too (compared to my lappy anyway lol)

[last mantle]

they usually have 2k displays

but 4k da best

[strange musk]

if you have the $

[white thunder]

buy once cry once

[last mantle]

im pretty sure you can get a decent 4k display with pc for lesser than a mac

[strange musk]

ya, but my PC sucks

[last mantle]

upgrade it

[strange musk]

lapot

*laptop is pretty old

[jolly dome]

hey

[strange musk]

I wanna buy a new one

[last mantle]

nice

[white thunder]

I need a new work laptop. I am using my personal at work now. I work in the IT department but we are the last one to get money

[last mantle]

anything with amd in it is good haha

[strange musk]

so true

[white thunder]

Ive got an MSI with a i9 and a gtx, and it does plenty for my needs

[atomic horizon]

https://forms.gle/RFbBBEZ56syZyYbu7 . I have a form i need to be filled, based on you guys opinion. Im doing a research whether public colleges world wide should be tuition free. Need at least 10 people to answer my questionnare. it would not take more than 4 minutes to answer them. 🙏 God bless you all

[strange musk]

yeah, but then how will they earn money?

[white thunder]

^legit expecting a rickrolldirect

[strange musk]

its actually authentic 😮

[white thunder]

Did you take the survey?

[strange musk]

no, but I did skim through

[white thunder]

I fell for it. i completed the survey

[strange musk]

and? did it give you some link?

[atomic horizon]

its nor rickrol

lol

[white thunder]

No, 10 questions simple demographics

[atomic horizon]

Publuc services are not meant to make money

well some, not all

[white thunder]

I got offered 2 dogecoin and a free carwash

[atomic horizon]

thank you btw 🙏

[strange musk]

really?

[white thunder]

no

[strange musk]

damn, you destroyed all my hope 🙂

[atomic horizon]

I'm not that brutal

I have being rickrolled

im doing a thicc ass research.

[white thunder]

My wife didnt know what a rickroll was, and now about every 4 hrs i get her

[atomic horizon]

lol

[white thunder]

Thicc... not thick

2C's

[atomic horizon]

ok

[strange musk]

you honestly could have got that info on your own with a bit of scraping and googleing

[atomic horizon]

whats the difference though?

[white thunder]

@atomic horizon its a joke. disregard it

[atomic horizon]

I cant do it for all the countires in the world

[strange musk]

you can actually. we done have people from all over the world here anyways 🤷

[atomic horizon]

also its a requiremnt to use qualitative research

[white thunder]

^limitations are only present to those who lack imagination---- Ben Franklin probably

[atomic horizon]

Nah conficuious

[white thunder]

I may have read it in the Torah... who knows

[still sky]

does anyone know what font this is?

[strange musk]

Pretty sure there is a website for this type of thing

[still sky]

what is it?

[feral yew]

Could be segoi? Since that's the windows default font

[still sky]

ah yes segoi that looks right alright thank you

[feral yew]

No problem!

[still sky]

wait which segoi?

I have like 10 of them in this gui editor

QT Designer

I'm tryina recreate snipping tool in pure Python

I'm gonna add images later, but this is what I have so far, I just started

the top is the actual app

the bottom is what I'm doing

[feral yew]

I have no idea unfortunately

[still sky]

changed a few things

the original one's text looks like it's more spaced out

like a few pixels or something

[inland wolf]

@still sky microsoft likes to use Segoe UI

[still sky]

Can anyone find the Windows 10 Snipping Tool logo transparent for me?

I can't find any windows 10 results on google

[atomic horizon]

your jewish?

[rough sapphire]

I just want to point out that your "Try Snip & Sketch" text is smaller and centered, unlike the Snipping Tool's text

I think the bigger text looks better, but your centered text looks better than the Snipping Tool's

[still sky]

Yeah I updated it

hold on

lemme show you

it's hard to replicate

the button at the bottom is a but too small

[rough sapphire]

Understandable

[rough sapphire]

I agree

[still sky]

here

looks better

[carmine niche]

a

[still sky]

don't mind the top though QT displays buttons how tkinter does it

when the code is converted to Python, it'll look like the windows version

the only problem here is the icons

I can't find anything on the icons

[rich moon]

the font i think is identical

if u were wondering if u got the right font

[torn holly]

waht is that

[ionic dock]

i need help with discord

[carmine niche]

what help do you need

[carmine niche]

what do you need help with

[ionic dock]

I need help with discord everytime i change my name then i wanna change it back it says i can't

[rough sapphire]

hello
can anyone help with a little thing in my java program?
i created a program that checks if 2 arrays of 3x3 size are identical(they dont have to be strictly identical, meaning the order of values can be different). <<<this is what i need help with

[rough sapphire]

cuz ur prlly doing it very quickly

[ionic dock]

but can we stop doing that pls'

[carmine niche]

yez

also

to multiple people above

https://dontasktoask.com
i am aware that it is a courtesy thing and that you may not be comfortable with it but if you are comfortable with it it does help speed things up a lot :D

[floral epoch]

Cool #🔴｜cooldown｜🔴

ok the channel just turns into text once you dont have access to it

[rich moon]

https://github.com/SciML intresting julia stuff

although i dont have time to go though all their stuff

[vapid nymph]

@mild abyss

[mild abyss]

at least you're interested

come join us :3

[rich moon]

i looked into julia once cuz i needed sth that could solve odes rather fast

and some dude argued that julia ode solvers are way superior than scipy ode solvers

[mild abyss]

well it is intended for scientific computation so it is superior on that regard

the lack of libraries is its drawback

it needs a LOT OF TIME to be a good replacement language of python

[rich moon]

although the first time running u kinda need to wait a long time

[mild abyss]

yeah because it is JIT after all.

[rich moon]

only reason im still using matlab

is bc of matrices

and bc a decent amount of code is already written in matlab

[vapid nymph]

👀

[mild abyss]

julia has good representations and usages on matrices as well

[vapid nymph]

Not a lot of time just people who wanna port code over to it

Or write libraries

[mild abyss]

matlab is already mature. julia is still version 1

[vapid nymph]

Or write a python to julia porter

[mild abyss]

but i see promise

[vapid nymph]

Just like the c2v converter.

[rich moon]

i was kinda intrested bc it apparently can beat matlabs ode solvers

and i did need speed for sth im doing

as it takes about 2 hrs to run

and i would like it to be faster

[karmic apex]

where is genera;?

general*

[rough sapphire]

#python-discussion

[twin charm]

hi

[vapid nymph]

👀

Yeah

Makes sense

That's honestly the issue tho

You have a sharp ass dagger to get to the point asap

[edgy crest]

you can trust rust

[vapid nymph]

Not a language is it tho

I mean person ...

[edgy crest]

no need for that

[wild yarrow]

🙏

[edgy crest]

[vapid nymph]

Smh unixporn urself

[wild yarrow]

unixporn 😳

[mild abyss]

||my gf||

[vapid nymph]

Smh

Which i have effectively said so many times i read it as smuh or smeh

Imagine having a developer as a partner

[wild yarrow]

my bf is a senior software engineer tho

[mild abyss]

i aint a developer though xD

[wild yarrow]

[acoustic moss]

imagine having a partner

[vapid nymph]

idea: create an AI partner

[mild abyss]

imagine

[vapid nymph]

Imagine having friends smeh

[wild yarrow]

🥴

[vapid nymph]

(Smeh is basically smh but how i say it lol)

[wild yarrow]

k?

good for you ig?

smeh™️

[vapid nymph]

Man i just wanna hug someone lol.

[wild yarrow]

😔

[vapid nymph]

I miss hugging people jk i don't really remember the last time. But y'know, cancer and all. Fuck it. Just fuck everything.

[mild abyss]

u dont have friends in your locality? 🤔

[vapid nymph]

Fuck covid too

And fake friends and more shit and cancer and everything

Just fuck it all

[wild yarrow]

😔

[vapid nymph]

Doesn't really matter. Online school in zoom where no one turns on their camera or talks. Useless.

I never really had friends no. I talk to one person kinda but not so much really.

Perhaps-- oh just fuck it all. Everything. Fuck that too. I should go before I go out of control in server but my dms are open and I'm easier to be more calm in there thanks.

[wild yarrow]

d-do you like d-dark souls??

HAHA

yeah, i retired after the august tourney i was in last year

cause it's just stressful

but there's some good communities out there 😳

[vapid nymph]

Or no one dms which i get but also smh.

Shouldn't expect it 😅

[wild yarrow]

kinda busy 😔

[viral viper]

Hey

[wild yarrow]

howdy

[viral viper]

I wish to talk

Would you like to talk

[rough sapphire]

What’s this about

I open this server and see somebody in trouble

Covid culture doesnt have to be forever

Crappy online school stuff must suck but what can you do

https://youtu.be/hdAN0o3oqB8

Take care buddy

[graceful basin]

@ocean light please do not post chainmail

[ocean light]

Wots chainmail

[graceful basin]

messages designed to be sent to as many places as possible, in a chain of sorts

[ocean light]

Affirmative.

Sir.

ಠ_ಠ

[split valve]

yall, stop simping for balsin

[twin charm]

who is balsin

[calm dawn]

does anyone else wind up with seemingly random print commands commented out all over their code?

[harsh tundra]

If I'm lazily debugging, yes. If I'm actually doing some stuff, no.

If I'm doing more real stuff, then I just import my code into interactive python console and play with it there. That way I can check a lot of stuff without changing the code itself.

So the prints are not in the code itself, so I don't have to comment it out or delete it :P

[calm dawn]

lol

I don't have access to pdb right now so I'm using print commands

[noble atlas]

wow, may i know what is interactive python console ?

[noble atlas]

is that python console? thank you

[acoustic moss]

ye

also called REPL

[mild abyss]

make this channel great again!

[tribal aurora]

yep repl

!repl

[royal lake]

Read-Eval-Print Loop

A REPL is an interactive language shell environment. It first reads one or more expressions entered by the user, evaluates it, yields the result, and prints it out to the user. It will then loop back to the read step.

To use python's REPL, execute the interpreter with no arguments. This will drop you into the interactive interpreter shell, print out some relevant information, and then prompt you with the primary prompt >>>. At this point it is waiting for your input.

Firstly you can start typing in some valid python expressions, pressing <return> to either bring you to the eval step, or prompting you with the secondary prompt ... (or no prompt at all depending on your environment), meaning your expression isn't yet terminated and it's waiting for more input. This is useful for code that requires multiple lines like loops, functions, and classes. If you reach the secondary prompt in a clause that can have an arbitrary amount of expressions, you can terminate it by pressing <return> on a blank line. In other words, for the last expression you write in the clause, <return> must be pressed twice in a row.

Alternatively, you can make use of the builtin help() function. help(thing) to get help on some thing object, or help() to start an interactive help session. This mode is extremely powerful, read the instructions when first entering the session to learn how to use it.

Lastly you can run your code with the -i flag to execute your code normally, but be dropped into the REPL once execution is finished, giving you access to all your global variables/functions in the REPL.

To exit either a help session, or normal REPL prompt, you must send an EOF signal to the prompt. In *nix systems, this is done with ctrl + D, and in windows systems it is ctrl + Z. You can also exit the normal REPL prompt with the dedicated functions exit() or quit().

[quartz heron]

how

[carmine niche]

which blink.ino is better (in your opinion)
option 1:

#define LED 13
#define DELAY 500

void setup(void) {
  pinMode(LED, OUTPUT);
}

void loop(void) {
  digitalWrite(LED, HIGH);
  delay(DELAY);
  digitalWrite(LED, LOW);
  delay(DELAY);
}
```option 2:
```arduino
#define LED 13
#define DELAY 500

bool state;

void setup(void) {
  pinMode(LED, OUTPUT);
  state = false;
}

void loop(void) {
  inv(&state);
  digitalWrite(LED, state);
  delay(DELAY);
}

void inv(bool *b) {
  *b = !*b;
}

i think the second one is more fun

[acoustic moss]

I can understand the first code

I cannot understand the second code

=> the second code is cooler

=> use second code

I think so

especially considering it's called blink.ino lol

[carmine niche]

yez

[graceful basin]

how about

for(int i = 0; i < 2; i++) {
    digitalWrite(LED, i);
    delay(DELAY)
}

[carmine niche]

erm

first of all that will blink twice only

lmao

or rather once, switching twice

[graceful basin]

put it in the loop

[carmine niche]

oh

i mean

i don't like it :(

it feels mildly cursed

[graceful basin]

actually, will arduino let you do

#include <initializer_list>
for(auto& a: {true, false}) {
    ...
}
```or is that too much cpp stdlib

[carmine niche]

also i would much rather this

void loop() {
  int i = 1;
  do {
    digitalWrite(LED, i);
    delay(DELAY);
  } while (i --> 0);
}

😎

[acoustic moss]

the --> threw me off lol

cursed

[carmine niche]

secret --> operator 😳

[rough sapphire]

has anyone heard The Weeknd?

[carmine niche]

mm

that is like asking has anyone heard post malone

-_-

[vapid nymph]

Who is post malone?

[carmine niche]

rapper

if you know post malone you know the weeknd

and vice versa

which is why i said it is like asking if you have heard of post malone

[acoustic moss]

pre malone and weekdy

[carmine niche]

bsdvbgfjsdvfghfsdkbfhsdkfbghsdjk

thank you

[rich moon]

well the weeknd was already popular

but i think super bowl made him even more

or at least even more ppl know about him

[last mantle]

ping akarys and he will go on forever about the weeknd

haha

[rough sapphire]

@solid pollen

[solemn leaf]

Arduino stuffs goin on

Noice

[solid pollen]

I heard one or two songs, yeah

[solemn leaf]

Yesh

[vapid nymph]

hello akarys

[solemn leaf]

Saveurtearsforanotherday

[rough sapphire]

ohhh noicee

[solid pollen]

I may be in the top 0.005% listeners for the weeknd

maybe

[last mantle]

but we have 👀

NDA though haha

[carmine niche]

how to program arduino:

#include "miscellaneous.h"

lol

[graceful basin]

I wonder if you can compile arduino with module support

[carmine niche]

hmm

[rough sapphire]

isn't that just a shorthand for while ( (i--) > 0)

o yea , turns out it is . https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1642028/what-is-the-operator-in-c-c

[rich moon]

WHEN U ARE BLINDED BY THE LIGHTSSSSSSS

although save your tears is a bop too

[carmine niche]

yes also if you want my attention pls ping me when you reply qwq

[strange musk]

if you have the thermals

[vapid nymph]

what are ya doin?

dang

[scenic blaze]

HR wants to know what my top 5 projects accomplished this month are

and what my most meaningful accomplishment was

I've really only had one project this month and it isn't finished, lol

[strange musk]

gonna crash in a few hours

I speak from personal expereince 🙂

then your pc must be well-built 👍 mine was pretty bad

pls dont ask; I am already in depression

😁

[gleaming hare]

why the christmas colors on the server pfp?

[sterile sapphire]

pan-african for black history month

[gleaming hare]

ah, lol, ok 👌

[vapid nymph]

discord.gg/python

okay It wouldn't make sense if it was deleted lmao

[narrow pecan]

Check out #changelog

[vapid nymph]

hello gurkan

[vapid nymph]

@narrow pecan

[narrow pecan]

Huh, cool

Thanks for telling me

[vapid nymph]

np

[urban kiln]

@coral void enjoy!

[coral void]

cute!

[urban kiln]

thanks!

[vapid nymph]

@frozen crane ….

@property is a decorator

why did I not see that coming

but why does it not require the () after it?

hey you told me to ping you again if I had a question yeah?

[frozen crane]

property is the decorator, not something that a call to property would return.

[frozen crane]

yes, but while that help channel was active

anyway, let's get into it

go ahead and open another channel

[tardy rain]

Do you have a channel open, cause i wanna read the convo on decorators

[grim sleet]

i will pick up

[feral scarab]

||booty||

Gottem

[vapid nymph]

@reboot . >> text_file.txt

why does this not write the directory to the file

[bronze patio]

what's you guy's favorite boss theme

I feel like listening to some epic boss battle music

[vapid nymph]

why does this not write it smh @reboot cd /home/pi/AceBot && . >> text_file.txt

do I need to use echo?

[acoustic moss]

try echo %cd% >> text_file.txt

[vapid nymph]

it put %cd% in the file

[acoustic moss]

it worked on windows, idk

[vapid nymph]

how to get the current directory on linux bash?

[acoustic moss]

pwd

I think

[vapid nymph]

yep

ty

lets see if it works

okay so

it just doesn't want to run screen

[winter terrace]

how would it be possible that all internet testing services say that my internet is fine and fast when youtube takes like 20s to load

like wtf

even discord messages are going out delayed

[uneven pine]

ISPs prioritize traffic to testing services.

[quartz heron]

.battleship

battle me

[twin charm]

@uneven pine came here to exit spam lol

[topaz aurora]

Please do so in #sir-lancebot-playground

[quartz heron]

ok

[median dome]

@quartz heron Game cancelled.

[winter terrace]

not sure what that means

[waxen saffron]

Let's talk about the meaning of life

[winter terrace]

or to be more exact, if i'm understanding you correctly my ISP isn't following net neutrality laws

[rough sapphire]

it's C

[solid elbow]

Might be packet loss. Latency and throughput are independent. It's possible for it to be reasonably fast when things get through, but not all things get through, or there's sometimes a delay before stuff starts getting through, or something.

[uneven pine]

your ISP - Internet Service Provider, will always prioritize trafic going to any site that meaures internet speed

every ISP does this, just about

[winter terrace]

so if i were to have an internet testing service while doing other things it would greatly slow down my internet?

[uneven pine]

it's partially why netflix made fast.com, but then ISPs just begrudgingly started sending better traffic to netflix servers too.

[waxen saffron]

What do you think your life is gonna be like (as a programmer) if you wake up blind one day ?

[solid elbow]

I know blind programmers who get by alright.

[winter terrace]

lol

well that sucks

i thought i had 70mbps internet

its probably closer to 5

[waxen saffron]

Wait. How ?

[solid elbow]

It's nicer if you lose your vision gradually... You can adjust to the accessibility tools over time. But it's possible to code blind.

[rough sapphire]

you can type without looking

[solid elbow]

Screen readers, braille displays, etc.

[waxen saffron]

But it's not just typing

[rough sapphire]

it is, depending of your tool choice

[waxen saffron]

It's already hard and confusing sometimes for a person with vision

[solid elbow]

I mean, sure, a disability makes things harder, but not impossible

There are plenty of blind programmers out there.

[rough sapphire]

i was assuming you went blind after being a virtuoso in a anguage

[last mantle]

neovim helps them a lot ig

only keyboard stuff

[rough sapphire]

vim ftw

[twin charm]

nice

[rough sapphire]

and tabs

[winter terrace]

but i still dont understand my internet was perfectly fine until today

[solid elbow]

Yeah, keyboard driven tools, mice are out. Screen readers are the biggest accessibility tool - imagine, instead of you reading what's each line, the computer reads it to you into your headphones.

[solid elbow]

It'll probably be fine again tomorrow

[winter terrace]

i need a definitely

cuz this is awful

[solid elbow]

Either something is overloaded at your ISP, or there's a hardware failure that hasn't been tracked down yet.

Probably.

[rough sapphire]

most programming jargon doesn't make sense when you directly read it

[solid elbow]

Screen readers are customizable to deal with jargon. And can abbreviate things, as well.

[scenic orchid]

hello

[last mantle]

turn off router

and turn on

or

[rough sapphire]

like mov.b [esp - 0x04], el how will you make it read something like this?

[waxen saffron]

I used to be really productive during the lockdown when i was all alone at my home. But now i am being super lazy and can't get stuff done.

[last mantle]

forget wifi and connect again

[rough sapphire]

hi

[last mantle]

or switch the band

[waxen saffron]

The most productive months of my whole life was during the lockdown

[twin charm]

same

[rough sapphire]

i did some great stuff in lockdown

[twin charm]

march to june was 🔥

[rough sapphire]

i think i am still pretty good

compared to last year

[quartz heron]

really is it to hot there

[twin charm]

tell me more..

[rough sapphire]

aight, first off all, i now have a usable kernel

[quartz heron]

what did you do

[twin charm]

sure it is but that wasnt my point XD

[rough sapphire]

then i got accepted to work in CERN

[twin charm]

eh? like linux

[quartz heron]

MERN or CERN

[rough sapphire]

Now i am developing a device that let's you use drones with just your vision

[rough sapphire]

CERN

[quartz heron]

u mean compputer vision with opencv

[twin charm]

congrats 🎉 what is CERN btw

[rough sapphire]

kinda, but much much less secure and overall awful

[twin charm]

that is so cool

[vapid nymph]

I just fucked up

[waxen saffron]

how ?

[quartz heron]

how it feels

[vapid nymph]

I turned on windows subsystem for linux

But ion have time to set it up tonight

[twin charm]

hm

[rough sapphire]

you wear it, like fps goggles but drones tunes to whereever you're looking

[vapid nymph]

Which means I'll be setting it up before school

Oops

[waxen saffron]

Is Relax a language ?

[quartz heron]

that is how windows is ment to be used in a window

[vapid nymph]

Yes

[rough sapphire]

biggest physics faculty in the world they invented internet and stuff, nothing too big

and thanks

[twin charm]

thats not a fuck up

[waxen saffron]

Windows subsystem for linux is a confusing name

[vapid nymph]

The fuck up is ill be late to class

[quartz heron]

it is for him

[quartz heron]

virtyual box in linux

[waxen saffron]

Sounds like something for linux

[vapid nymph]

Agree. It should be named slightly differently i suppose

[rough sapphire]

you have to think the Microsoft way, backwards

[vapid nymph]

Backwards, the Microsoft way, is

[rough sapphire]

Linux in Windows?

[quartz heron]

yes i use it

[vapid nymph]

Yeah that's what it is

[solid elbow]

Exactly how you would read it if you were reading it out loud over a phone, I guess. Plus with the ability to read it letter by letter if needed. Possibly with a braille display, so it can be read by touch.

[rough sapphire]

was suggesting a name

[quartz heron]

i mean the vice versa

[vapid nymph]

Hello @solid elbow

[rough sapphire]

i guess it makes sense

[quartz heron]

byy gotta sleep

[vapid nymph]

Smh helper reaction flex

[twin charm]

it can be done in ot

[vapid nymph]

Wait

[waxen saffron]

LIN_WIN

[vapid nymph]

We're in offtopic smh

[rough sapphire]

why use win anyways

[uneven pine]

Welp I think I've had enough messing around with the AI today

Tomorrow I'll try doing soemthing a little more serious with it

[waxen saffron]

True that

[rough sapphire]

if you need win, just run it in a VM

but i doubt you need

[waxen saffron]

I tried WSL for a day when WSL2 was released and it was super slow.

[solid elbow]

I'm pretty happy with Windows as my regular OS. It handles power management and video better than Linux laptops do, and it's not Mac.

[waxen saffron]

I am currently on Ubuntu 20.04

[solid elbow]

WSL filesystem access is a bit slow, but even that's much better with WSL 2.

[rough sapphire]

I am on deb but i will switch to arch when i buy a new computer

[waxen saffron]

Video is an issue for me too

[inland wolf]

isnt wsl2 better? then why do ppl use wsl 1?

[rough sapphire]

cos they are lazy

[inland wolf]

damn

[solid elbow]

WSL 2 isn't strictly better. It's very different. Better at some things. Worse at others.

[inland wolf]

i see

i thought it was an upgrade from the last gen

ive never tried wsl 1

[rough sapphire]

hmm i didn't know that

[solid elbow]

WSL 2 is a virtual machine. WSL 1 is a syscall mapping layer that makes Linux programs run natively on Windows

[inland wolf]

oh

[vapid nymph]

Hm

[inland wolf]

interesting

[vapid nymph]

Best virtual machine client?

Afaik you need a client to run the OS, yeah?

[rough sapphire]

Soo, WSL1 is reverse Wine?

[solid elbow]

Basically, yeah

[vapid nymph]

Mmm, wine

I need to figure out how to run a process in nsjail with wine....

[waxen saffron]

What do you guys think about the future of RUST ?

[rough sapphire]

new C++

[vapid nymph]

https://discord.gg/zvJ79fWD btw

[rough sapphire]

does rust have more users than arduino?

[solid elbow]

I'm not sure what you mean by "client". WSL2 itself runs the VM, under the HyperV hypervisor

Rust seems like a pretty nice language.

[rough sapphire]

C is my fav, and then C++ and them maybe Rust

or 3 for python

[solid elbow]

I don't know Rust yet, so I have no informed opinion, but I like what little I've seen

[rough sapphire]

Rust is something like a safer C++

[waxen saffron]

Same here.

[solid elbow]

I'm a professional C++ dev. Awful language 😅

[waxen saffron]

haha

[rough sapphire]

shoot your own feet

slogan of C/C++

[waxen saffron]

Most people hate/fear programming cause they start with C/Cpp.

I thing python is the best place to start

[solid elbow]

C++ makes it very easy to write terrible code, and pretty hard to write good code. Everyone agrees that it's an alright language if you just avoid the bad parts, but no one can agree on what the bad parts are.

[rough sapphire]

those are the most beginner unfriendly languages

[noble atlas]

hmm I don't get it yet 😅

[vapid nymph]

"C++: a step above assembly"

[rough sapphire]

that's C

that's why i love C

[solid elbow]

I had to look up the syntax for making a template member function of a template class recently, because life is misery

[rough sapphire]

it is super easy to fuck up

[vapid nymph]

But afaik C is written in C++ At this point in time.

[rough sapphire]

no

[inland wolf]

bruh what

[solid elbow]

No.

[inland wolf]

no <3

[vapid nymph]

Someone told me that c compilers were now in c++

[rough sapphire]

gcc can compile c++ too, if that's what you mean

or

[solid elbow]

Some are. LLVM is, and therefore Clang

[rough sapphire]

c++ compilers can compile C code too

almost

[solid elbow]

But gcc is C

C++ compilers can compile old C, not modern C.

[vapid nymph]

Ah

[rough sapphire]

me compiling C code with C++ compiler
Restrict: "Hello"

[solid elbow]

And even for old C, they usually need lots of casts

[vapid nymph]

Lol

Ok

[rough sapphire]

does c99 count as modern C 🤔

[solid elbow]

Too modern for C++, at least

[rough sapphire]

hmm

so no uint8_t then

[solid elbow]

C++ inherited C as it existed when C++ was standardized. C89, not C99.

[rough sapphire]

oh yeah, i forgot how old C++ is sometimes

the thing about C that i really like is, it is developed because of needs, not for fun

[solid elbow]

5 years older than Python.

[rough sapphire]

but when we say python we mean python 2 and higher

at least i mean py2

[inland wolf]

what did python 1 look like?

[solid elbow]

Like Python.

[inland wolf]

oh i see

[twin charm]

hah

[winter terrace]

is c even a real language

im convinced that its a myth at this point

[rough sapphire]

it is the best

[solid elbow]

It's the language most important things are written in, still.

The important things that aren't written in C are usually written in C++

[rough sapphire]

here is the most important stuff about C

this book

[last mantle]

goto 👀

[winter terrace]

programming books can go die

[rough sapphire]

30 years old and still nod ded

[winter terrace]

oh wait

30 years?

[solid elbow]

Nothing wrong with goto. It's the cleanest way to do error handling in C.

[rough sapphire]

yup, C is even older

[winter terrace]

that explains it

[solid elbow]

C was made in the 70s.

[rough sapphire]

it was so good for the time it is still a huge standard in industry

[winter terrace]

that feels like a bit of an old language to use for super important systems

[rough sapphire]

if not C standard is something developed with C or C++ which is developed with C

[rough sapphire]

we use C in CERN

with million dollar computers

[solid elbow]

It's almost 50 years old. C++ is 35. Python is 30. Java is 27 or something like that

C# is about 20