ot1-perplexing-regexing

[rough sapphire]

no need any help just by mistake pinged you

[acoustic moss]

lol

[brazen ingot]

Hmm? That's irrelevant thing

Wdym?

You have to ping a guy if you need help and I know you who you are ok!

[rough sapphire]

yes i know

you too

forgot about it

😅

[brazen ingot]

Wdym? OH k

[rough sapphire]

😊

that's gotta be most awkward conversation i've ever seen

[twin charm]

same

[acoustic moss]

same

[ivory gyro]

same

[solid pollen]

let's not

[twin charm]

?

lets not what?

[last mantle]

lol

in gurkan

get it?

[twin charm]

?

[last mantle]

nvm

it was gonna repeat

spam

[twin charm]

I mean, 1 person is sending it once only

[last mantle]

well

[acoustic moss]

idk why but I find these trains extremely satisfying

[twin charm]

and when more people have the same opinion, it can be the same message

[twin charm]

trains?

you in a railway station?

[acoustic moss]

everyone writing the same comment

like
F
F
F

[twin charm]

ye, its cause we seem to think the same thing, thats why reactions were invented

[twin charm]

but nobody reacted with in the above message except me

[last mantle]

planes 4 life

[twin charm]

I like trains

[last mantle]

flight sims da best

[acoustic moss]

bird sim ftw

[twin charm]

ever played picasim? its available on mobile only, best game ever

[last mantle]

flight?

[twin charm]

obi

[last mantle]

i play msfs and xplane 11 and p3d

professional 😎

[twin charm]

like a rc plane game

[last mantle]

eww

[twin charm]

its rlly fun u should play it first and then make assumptions

[last mantle]

i can make assumptions cuz its on mobile

and any mobile flight sim wont give you a good experience

sim wise

[twin charm]

why is that

[last mantle]

as a game, it may be fun

simulator wise

[twin charm]

I mean, bruh moment

[last mantle]

i need all the plane switches to work :(

[twin charm]

its not a simulator, just a game. think like that and then start playin

[last mantle]

oh alright

[twin charm]

its rc plane dude, you got the knobs

[last mantle]

i want sims not games

hah

[twin charm]

for pitching up,down,left,right

you can even do tricks

[acoustic moss]

do a barrel roll

[twin charm]

yes you can

[acoustic moss]

ok

[twin charm]

once you keep on spinning it, it slowly goes down and does a nose dive

[last mantle]

in planes, spinning = bad bad idea haha

stall

[twin charm]

but speed increases if you do a nose dive and then you can glide its so amazing

[last mantle]

with immediate effect

[twin charm]

hmmm

[rough sapphire]

me tryna see vulns in bot ebal be like

[solid pollen]

Hey, two people broke it in the past

if you can find a vulnerability, you can get an Akarys Virtual Cookie™️!

[rough sapphire]

ooh

i was seeing if time.sleep is blocking

[twin charm]

oh wow, those people must be worshipped by the people here

[solid pollen]

haha

[twin charm]

who are these 2 intellectual individuals

[solid pollen]

One goes by the name meta, I don't know for the other it was a long time ago, I wasn't paying too much attention to that back then

[acoustic moss]

what did they break 👀

[twin charm]

those guys are like the coolest people maybe

[solid pollen]

meta found a folder placed in rw, so they could fill it up and make it hang on indefinitely

[twin charm]

wow

[tribal aurora]

elo

[twin charm]

hey

[tribal aurora]

ah, installing arch made a bit tired

but that was a fun time

finally built my castle

[twin charm]

nice

[rough sapphire]

hellooooooo everyone

[mild abyss]

just realized that learning regex like everyday is as important as physical exercise :((

[gritty zinc]

you know what they say, a regex a day keeps the doctor away

[mild abyss]

oooh u a helper now. congrats.

[rough sapphire]

how do i get

helper

[gritty zinc]

check pins in #community-meta

[inland wolf]

lol

[rough sapphire]

damn I'm so lazy to read the whole thing

just tell me in short

[sterile sapphire]

TLDR

idk i didn't read it either

[rough sapphire]

yuh lol

its boring to read each and every line

hey guys, so i was looking for implementation of printf() but i couldn't find it anywhere, do you have any idea where can i find it?

[gritty zinc]

do you prefer reading every second line in reverse order or something

[gritty zinc]

Like, from the C standard library?

[rough sapphire]

printf() is for C

[rough sapphire]

yup, but "The C Programming Language" says it is not a C function

[gritty zinc]

Here's one implementation, apparently:
https://opensource.apple.com/source/xnu/xnu-201/osfmk/kern/printf.c.auto.html

[rough sapphire]

i know

print() for Python

lmao

[graceful basin]

https://github.com/mpaland/printf/blob/master/printf.c this one seems as good as it gets

[rough sapphire]

yes

[rough sapphire]

is this the one linux or Windows uses tho?

[graceful basin]

no

they probably have a much less readable one

[stark prawn]

There are many different implementations.

[graceful basin]

and some compilers give you different libc too

[rough sapphire]

this isn't much readable either

[rough sapphire]

thanks i will check some out

[graceful basin]

it is as good as it gets

[rough sapphire]

thanks again

[high zealot]

Ok

[inland wolf]

surely someone has broken bot eval

[narrow pecan]

Maybe the ot name is lying

[gritty zinc]

impossible

[narrow pecan]

Maybe that’s what they want us to think

[rough sapphire]

#include <stdio.h>
typedef struct Person {char* Name;int Age;char* Gender;char* Nationality;char* Occupation;} Person;
void setname(char** ptr, char* name) {*ptr = name;}
void setage(int* ptr, int age) {*ptr = age;}
void setgender(char** ptr, char* gender) {*ptr = gender;}
void setnationality(char** ptr, char* nationality) {*ptr = nationality;}
void setoccupation(char** ptr, char* occupation) {*ptr = occupation;}
int main(){
    Person Person;
    setname(&Person.Name, "John Doe");
    setage(&Person.Age, 30);
    setgender(&Person.Gender, "Male");
    setnationality(&Person.Nationality, "United States");
    setoccupation(&Person.Occupation, "Game Developer");
    printf("Name: %s\n""Age: %d\n""Gender: %s\n""Nationality: %s\n""Occupation: %s\n", Person.Name, Person.Age, Person.Gender, Person.Nationality, Person.Occupation);
    return 0;
}

** could this code be more clean?**

[graceful basin]

could use some extra whitespace

[rough sapphire]

trying to make somethings in one line

but is is clean

clean code is with comments write

idk even know

how clean

code looks

can someone help me

[graceful basin]

depends on what you mean by clean

[rough sapphire]

im getting this

how can i fix

if this is the wrong channel to ask about these things im sorry

[graceful basin]

how did you install python? a help channel would probably be better, read #❓｜how-to-get-help to see how to get one and ping me in it with the answer to my question.

[rough sapphire]

okay

i installed python from the official website

the latest release

and while installing i checked the "PATH" thing

[graceful basin]

try py -m pip install -r requirements.txt

[rough sapphire]

it worked!

thank you so much, ive been trying to fix this for about 2 hours

how do i scan a directory using javascipt? or how do i inclue nodejs in my html document, like here's how you'd include jquery:

        <script src="https://code.jquery.com/jquery-3.2.1.slim.min.js"
        integrity="sha384-KJ3o2DKtIkvYIK3UENzmM7KCkRr/rE9/Qpg6aAZGJwFDMVNA/GpGFF93hXpG5KkN"
        crossorigin="anonymous"></script>

[graceful basin]

you can't access the host filesystem from JS afaik

[rough sapphire]

nononono

in my project

how do you name a variable good when programming like sometimes when writing code how do you know what to name your variable

[rough sapphire]

my project is:

sources/
  \ fwefwe.mp4
index.html
index.js

and i want to get everyhting in sources

uhh help

[rough sapphire]

py -m pip install discord

okay

or py -m pip install discord.py
idk which i is

[rough sapphire]

somebody answer this ^

[rough sapphire]

player_money_ammount = 1213232

i try to make my variables clear

[graceful basin]

@rough sapphire well, the way that access works in JS is by sending requests, you will have to make an API endpoint to list the directory

[rough sapphire]

welp

[rough sapphire]

aaaaaAAAAaaAAaA,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

:((

what could i do for this

[rough sapphire]

install thjose modules

how

[graceful basin]

try using py instead of python

[rough sapphire]

i dont really know how to use these

[rough sapphire]

same error

[rough sapphire]

what? you developed a bot without testing

it is an open source

just want to test it

[rough sapphire]

py -m pip install colorthief

[frozen coral]

What does the code look like?

Could you link me to the repo?

[rough sapphire]

i mean i got it from yt

[rough sapphire]

they're missing modules

i downloaded

[frozen coral]

Could you link me?

[rough sapphire]

sure

[rough sapphire]

f^^

this video

i couldnt copy the link

for the github download

[frozen coral]

Yea, we're not going to help you with a self bot here 🙂

That's against discord's ToS

[rough sapphire]

i just want to test it

not going to use it

bw can you change your name to somehing thatn is not an invisibke characer?

[frozen coral]

Either way, we can't help you with that here.

[rough sapphire]

Nickname policy
In order to keep things pleasant and workable for both users and staff members, we enforce the following requirements regarding your nickname. Staff reserves the right to change the nickname of any user for any reason. Failure to comply with these requirements may result in you losing the right to change your nickname. We also reserve the right to discipline users with offensive usernames, regardless of the nickname they're using.
Rule 1
No blank or "invisible" names

please

oh sorry

done

changed it

https://medium.com/better-programming/useful-tips-for-naming-your-variables-8139cc8d44b5

https://blog.usejournal.com/naming-your-variables-f9477ba002e9

this is even better

[rough sapphire]

How do I broke bot eval I tried recursion didn't work

[rose anvil]

does anyone know how to crack an encryped .zip file? because my brother put all my game files in a .zip file and pressed random buttons on the keyboard so no one knows what it is

[rich moon]

it is encrypted for a reason

lmao u dont need to post in all channels

[rough sapphire]

I don't know the reason, but it might be an unjust reason

But

[harsh tundra]

Usually zipping files doesn't delete them, just create an archive next to them... But as for zip, if you know a content of at least one file inside and the password is not too long, it's doable

[rose anvil]

idk what the pass is

[rough sapphire]

I don't really know any way too much other than brute-forcing (which is what some password cracking software do)

[rose anvil]

my brother spammed random stuff on they keyboard

[harsh tundra]

Also, whole games? Like from the drive? Not the icons from the desktop?

[rose anvil]

saves

[harsh tundra]

Steam/Epic Games/GOG/some other launcher games? They keep the saves backup on the server.

[rose anvil]

i have cloud saves off on steam

i kept backups on a usb that he also smashed

[harsh tundra]

"There are two types of people: those who do backups and those who will"

[harsh tundra]

Sounds like pretty abusive behaviour... Did you talk about this with your parents?

[rose anvil]

yeah but there is nothing they could do

[harsh tundra]

That sounds like anger management issues. They could send your bro to a specialist. Otherwise it can get worse

[rose anvil]

hess 8

lol

[harsh tundra]

Yes. And untreated problems grow bigger

[rose anvil]

yeah ik

i just need help with this

any brute force apps that u recemend

i tryed John The Ripper and 20+ others to no avail

[harsh tundra]

If you have another USB stick, try Recuva (but download it from other computer). It's not a cracker but it will scan the empty parts of the drive for traces of files and try to recover them (that's why USB stick and another computer - so you don't overwrite it)

It may be better than trying to break the zip

[mortal ferry]

!warn 626002979991978014 We're not going to help you crack passwords, and don't spam multiple channels with your question

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @rose anvil.

[rough sapphire]

Ayo

[sterile sapphire]

hello

[rough sapphire]

My code is wrong, i want to edit it, can i ask you how

[carmine niche]

https://dontasktoask.com

[rough sapphire]

How to get this code to print numbers 1- 9 in different lines keys = open("newtext.txt", "w")

k = range(1, 10)
for h in k:
keys.write(str(h))
keys.seek(113)

[frozen crane]

what is the seek part for? You can use the \n character to add a new line.

[rough sapphire]

'
Yes, but I cannot get it to work How to get it work with seek and 113 in my code is first line ending in my notepad, new text going is to new line

[carmine niche]

as stelercus asked, what is the seek part for? if you just want to print them on separate lines and nothing else then this should work

keys = open('newtext.txt', 'w')

for i in range(1, 10):
    keys.write(str(i) + '\n')

[rough sapphire]

Is this working with Python 3.9.1 or is 3.6 better and why my code print me any tetx

[carmine niche]

what

[rough sapphire]

Is this working with any python, I code with it

[sterile sapphire]

what

[rough sapphire]

Why you cannot answer me

[vapid nymph]

.topic

[median dome]

**If you could have any superpower, what would it be?**

Suggest more topics here!

[vapid nymph]

Code run successfully and on first try, every single time

And do what i wanted it to do

This would actually be the greatest superpower ever, because if i wanted it to write the name of whoever used it to a file, i could just do print('hi and it would run successfully

[rough sapphire]

If I want to print 2 text lines, 1 and 2 to next line Can I put 2 x f.write to my code

[fierce comet]

anyone know how i would make swim thing like this https://sebastian.itch.io/digital-logic-sim

[mellow spire]

#community-meta message my off topic name 🎉

not mine

but added by me

[brazen ingot]

lol yes

[cloud valley]

lol

[mild abyss]

and his world ended

[twin charm]

haha

[acoustic moss]

uh
assuming that the installation goes well, what happens to the usb drive where I flashed the iso after the installation?

[inland wolf]

nothing

u can use it again

if u like

[acoustic moss]

cool

[inland wolf]

agree

so its just an os in ur stick

:)

[acoustic moss]

how much free space do I need on my pendrive? I have ~14.5gb free, the iso is 1.9gb

[inland wolf]

the iso will take ur entire usb

even if it doesnt use all of it

[twin charm]

whenever I open python-discord always you three are there, zeeshan, hahastinky and vinam

I could make that harry potter meme brb

[inland wolf]

damn

harry po'er

and the goble' of fiya

[acoustic moss]

yeah, was just wondering if it'll complain about not enough space, it didn't thankfully

[inland wolf]

lol

nice

[acoustic moss]

burned successfully

or flashed

idk the right terms

anyway

[high zealot]

Ok

[acoustic moss]

now to reboot

[twin charm]

gl

[acoustic moss]

nvm, i'll do it tomorrow

[tribal aurora]

elo again

[twin charm]

hi

[tribal aurora]

@edgy crest you there?

so @twin charm

u finally use vim

[twin charm]

I'm testing it out

[tribal aurora]

It's super super cool

[twin charm]

mm

[tribal aurora]

ha, u didn't like it?

;/

[twin charm]

ok guys I did it @edgy crest @acoustic moss @inland wolf

[twin charm]

yes its nice

[tribal aurora]

lol

[acoustic moss]

lol

[narrow pecan]

Lollll

[tribal aurora]

hahastinkypoop, vinam

and that guy

[clear plume]

Lol

[tribal aurora]

woah

u guys been hiding there?

reading the chat

lol

[clear plume]

I'm always here

[twin charm]

vester came out of nowhere

[clear plume]

I just don't show myself

[narrow pecan]

I opened it like 2 seconds ago

[twin charm]

hah

[tribal aurora]

how long have you been working on it lol

[twin charm]

3mins

[tribal aurora]

awesome

[twin charm]

mspaint lol

mspaint ftw

[inland wolf]

lol nice

[twin charm]

vinams pfp changes everyday so lul

[brazen ingot]

lol Why didn't you included me?

[twin charm]

bcoz I dont see you

only in python general and help channels ur there

[brazen ingot]

You will only see me in help channels

[twin charm]

ahyes

[brazen ingot]

lol did you maked that

[twin charm]

yes

[mild abyss]

oh no. u should be banned

[clear plume]

For?

[brazen ingot]

hiding..

[twin charm]

there might even be a mod reading through this chat rn

[mild abyss]

hiding

[brazen ingot]

hmm rys might be there

[clear plume]

Off with my head

[twin charm]

rys!

he's sneaky

[brazen ingot]

peaky

Hey someone screensharing in vc

[twin charm]

yes its vester

something about a gem

[quick ledge]

hahahaa

[edgy crest]

lmao

[vapid nymph]

.topic

[median dome]

**What is your earliest memory of Easter?**

Suggest more topics here!

[haughty fractal]

this tbh

[carmine niche]

what about me OwO

[last mantle]

@carmine niche how easy is garuda for a beginner who is learning to use manjaro ?

[carmine niche]

garuda is not at all hard for a beginner

the only thing i would caution with it is that

due in part to it being rolling release and all there are sometimes issues that need manual troubleshooting and solving

[last mantle]

like manjaro ?

[carmine niche]

which for most beginners is not the easiest thing in the world

but other than that it is buttery smooth

i have no experience with manjaro

[last mantle]

hmm

[carmine niche]

it is based on arch though, like manjaro is

[last mantle]

okie , thanks :)

[untold kiln]

what r some good super beginner python “projects”

i’m making a club but everybody is p much a complete beginner and i barely know anything either lmao

like stuff along the lines of a guessing game or something

[sterile sapphire]

!projects

[royal lake]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page on Ned Batchelder's website contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[untold kiln]

oh dang ty

[sterile sapphire]

get projekt xd

[untold kiln]

sorry i didn’t know that was a command lmao

my b

[sterile sapphire]

all good

[carmine niche]

hello world in all the languages you know how to do it in go

/j

[vapid nymph]

???

[carmine niche]

dw abt it

[vapid nymph]

why not

[carmine niche]

print('Hello, World!')
``````js
console.log('Hello, World!')
``````java
public class HelloWorld {
    public static void main(String[] args) {
        System.out.println("Hello, World!");
    }
}
``````cs
using System;

namespace HelloWorld
{
    class Program
    {
        static void Main(string[] args)
        {
            Console.WriteLine("Hello, World!");
        }
    }
}
``````go
package main

import (
    "fmt"
)

func main() {
    fmt.Println("Hello, World!")
}
``````rs
fn main() {
    println!("Hello, World!");
}
``````hs
module Main where

main :: IO ()
main = putStrLn "Hello, World!"
``````cpp
#include <iostream>

int main() {
    std::cout << "Hello, World!" << std::endl;
    return 0;
}
``````c
#include <stdio.h>

int main() {
    printf("Hello, World!");
}
``````fs
printfn "Hello, World!"

i think that's all the ones i know

[sterile sapphire]

uhhhhhh go off i guess

[carmine niche]

i forgot bash but that is ok because bash is not a real language >:(

omg

/say Hello World!

[rough sapphire]

Wow

[carmine niche]

i think you meant to say

OwO

[rich moon]

console.log('Hello World')

[carmine niche]

what about it

[rich moon]

javascript typescript take ur pick

another hello world

[carmine niche]

oh

i mean

i don't find typescript to be meaningfully distinct from javascript

at least not in this context

[rich moon]

u can never tell

well im kinda done with typescript

ended up creating a test file that is 1k lines long

bc some database model had crazy number of fields

[coral void]

.

[vapid nymph]

@coral void 👋

in vsc if choose add remote

are you

it did save the dupe as a remote ….

[coral void]

Right, you need to provide the path to the repository

lol

[vapid nymph]

this is what I'm trying to commit to

https://github.com/onerandomusername/cloudahkdupe

if i get it right then I'll set it up and commit to the fork of the project

I'm trying to commit to a cloned repo so I can delete it later and not worry about messing up commit history of the main repo

….

perhaps vsc make git actually really easy and I just can't. use. git.

@coral void they saved.…

[coral void]

Sorry, I'm tired and spacy

So, you're trying to commit from where you are now, to https://github.com/onerandomusername/cloudahkdupe?

[vapid nymph]

yeah

I think I can git it now (haha)

[coral void]

Because the normal way, at least, to do it is to "fork" the project on github, pull from the fork, work on teh fork, push to the fork, then make a PR in github from fork -> main repo

<

[vapid nymph]

yeah

the reason I'm going to the non fork is because uh, idfu anything about git

or github

But if I go to the clone, I can try to do it myself

[plucky ridge]

I read that as spicy

[coral void]

oof

[vapid nymph]

w/out messing up history

[coral void]

I mean, I am that too lol

[plucky ridge]

hawt

[coral void]

<

[vapid nymph]

spicy

[coral void]

Is salt a spice?

[vapid nymph]

if you guys are gonna flirt take it to staff chat 😛

[coral void]

Cause this is me rn:

[vapid nymph]

sigh

[coral void]

Well, lets see

[vapid nymph]

how do I "sign in" to git

[coral void]

you've got a bunch of remotes with names pointed at the right place

and you've got the origin pointing at the wrong place

[coral void]

So, basically need to change that origin, then

Uh

[vapid nymph]

i assume i need to "sign in"

aka a key somewhere

[coral void]

no

try

ssh [e-mail]

[vapid nymph]

then how tf does git know I have permission to push to that repo

[dusty hare]

I would say no

[coral void]

It would give you access denied not failed to connect

[vapid nymph]

so it did work

hm

do i need to add it to known_hosts

[coral void]

Provided you're sure thats the right IP, yeah

Give a moment

140.82.113.4 is ...

Yeah, should be fine, it should be known_hosts though

Basically, first time you ssh to a server you need to validate its identity, then that identity is saved in a file called known_hosts

[vapid nymph]

yeye

i forgot lol

ok cool

so it does know who I am

onerandomusername lul

[coral void]

Yeah, so now try the git url for that repo...

[e-mail]:/path/thingy

[vapid nymph]

so it was trying this

lemme check something

[coral void]

Yeah, it looks like github is blocked (?) which is confusing

[vapid nymph]

let me remember how to perform a request to a specific url

there is a strong firewall on this

so I'm not sure if its being blocked

writing script to make a git request smh

[coral void]

curl/wget

[vapid nymph]

ohhhh

also something else

[vapid nymph]

can you try it on your computer, lol

because when i try it on my computer which is not firewalled

[coral void]

$ curl https://github.com 
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
  0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--     0




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.....

[vapid nymph]

oh

which client/shell

[coral void]

I mean, any shell, with curl as the client

[vapid nymph]

right

I only get output on cmd

oh

I get no output on ps1

[coral void]

Weird

[high zealot]

I have to make a frideing Insta account for an outsiders character. I dont have Insta myself.

[vapid nymph]

im just

gonna work on this tomrrow

@coral void you mind if i send you a 7z? lol

its the code, rather than being able to commit it

eh no

did it manually smh

@coral void https://github.com/onerandomusername/cloudahkdupe/tree/fastapi-rewrite

[coral void]

ok

Ah, I see

you're using urllib.request

use aiohttp instead to do that part

[vapid nymph]

nah that's just config code

it only runs on first run

    if os.path.isfile(os.path.join('ahk', 'AutoHotkeyU64.exe')):
        print('Found!')
    else:
        print('Downloading AutoHotkey')
        req = urllib.request.Request(AHK_URL,
                                     headers={'User-Agent': 'https://github.com/G33kDude/CloudAHK'})
        resp = urllib.request.urlopen(req)
        with ZipFile(BytesIO(resp.read())) as zipfile:
            zipfile.extract('AutoHotkeyU64.exe', 'ahk')
    print('\n')

if the path is a file it won't run again and it never deletes the file so it stays there.

[coral void]

p.communicate blocks for the timeout

[vapid nymph]

i mean

I know where the issue is

or, what indirectly causes the issue

[coral void]

Try asyncio.subprocess

[vapid nymph]

hm

oh

idk

[coral void]

!d asyncio.create_subprocess_exec

[royal lake]

`asyncio.create_subprocess_exec`

coroutine asyncio.create_subprocess_exec(program, *args, stdin=None, stdout=None, stderr=None, loop=None, limit=None, **kwds)```
Create a subprocess.

The *limit* argument sets the buffer limit for [`StreamReader`](asyncio-stream.html#asyncio.StreamReader "asyncio.StreamReader") wrappers for `Process.stdout` and `Process.stderr` (if [`subprocess.PIPE`](subprocess.html#subprocess.PIPE "subprocess.PIPE") is passed to *stdout* and *stderr* arguments).

Return a [`Process`](#asyncio.asyncio.subprocess.Process "asyncio.asyncio.subprocess.Process") instance.

See the documentation of [`loop.subprocess_exec()`](asyncio-eventloop.html#asyncio.loop.subprocess_exec "asyncio.loop.subprocess_exec") for other parameters.

Deprecated since version 3.8, will be removed in version 3.10: The *loop* parameter.

[vapid nymph]

oh

damn

[vapid nymph]

broke it lol

[last mantle]

!d list

[molten hornet]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

.topic

[median dome]

**What would you do if you know you could succeed at anything you chose to do?**

Suggest more topics here!

[molten hornet]

woow

i'll learn to play the piano

and guitar

and german

[shell blade]

.

[clear plume]

!

[acoustic moss]

?

[vapid nymph]

I am very irritated rn
how do I run something in the background in a terminal

and allow it to keep running, along with all of its children processes, even when i close the terminal

[quick ledge]

command & @vapid nymph

[vapid nymph]

yep

doing that, along with disown

but somehow something goes wrong

[quick ledge]

what goes wrong?

[vapid nymph]

unfortunately, I don't fully know

I uh, haven't set up logger yet

[quick ledge]

you do get an output, right?

[vapid nymph]

no, as it only stops working when there isn't an active terminal

so there's no way to view the output

[quick ledge]

how about not using disown?

[vapid nymph]

hm

[quick ledge]

command & > /dev/null 2>&1

> /dev/null 2>&1 this part is just for yeeting the output

[vapid nymph]

didn't work

it does spawn multiple processes itself

its a uvicorn server. I really guess I'm gonna have to set up a process manager, huh.

welp

that worked whatever

I'll figure it out

ohhhhh that might make sense yeah I get it now

[hidden pebble]

On chrome when I double click it takes me to the last page, how do I disable that?.

[nova viper]

??

[narrow pecan]

@wheat lynx what the ot-name didn’t know, is that we’re always watching the red ranger as well

[wheat lynx]

oh yaaaaay this name came up for the first time

I'm pretty sure this is the first ot-name referencing me that has come up

[narrow pecan]

That’s pretty cool

Do you know how many you have?

[wheat lynx]

This might actually be the only one 😔

[narrow pecan]

Oh, luckily your worth isn’t measured in ot-names hahah

[wheat lynx]

lol yes

[inland wolf]

lol

[sand inlet]

@sand inlet how do i get the helper role may i ask
@tulip ember basically help lots and hope that at some point the existing helpers will notice and decide to make you a helper

[tulip ember]

ok thanks 😄

[rough sapphire]

become iron man

[inland wolf]

man

i thought i typed edge into windows search

but i typed dg

and now i opened dgram.d.ts

wtf

[mild abyss]

@wheat lynx how many eyes do u have?

[wheat lynx]

only two, but I make use of them 👀

[narrow pecan]

Also worth noting that we care about the quality of help more than the quantity. There are also other ways of joining staff, through contributing to our projects and so on. I'd recommending checking out the pins in #community-meta for a more detailed explanation 😄

[last mantle]

😄

[twin charm]

haha wookie reference in ot

[vapid nymph]

!otn a i need a channel idea

[twin charm]

hahaha

thats a funny one

[split valve]

can anyone help me with my monitor please
basically i just got a 2nd monitor and an adapter DP - HDMI. the monitor model is lenovo thinkvision e24-10.

the monitor is stuck at power saving mode, that indeed means that it isnt receiving a signal from my laptop. i have a 2nd monitor (i dont need to use the adapter) and it works fine.

[solid pollen]

!otn a the lonely red ranger

[royal lake]

:ok_hand: Added the-lonely-red-ranger to the names list.

[inland wolf]

lol

[twin charm]

lmfao

nice

[mellow spire]

the ot name is false now 😦

[solid pollen]

True

[vapid nymph]

@wheat lynx are you watching 👀

[wheat lynx]

I am always watching...

I was just busy lol

[wheat lynx]

yay, you've doubled the chance of an ot name coming up that references me!

[vapid nymph]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[last mantle]

!otn wookie-wookie-wookie

[rough sapphire]

weird how i am having 100mbps but everything seems laggy

[rough sapphire]

Damn

I have the same problem, I just actually download something to see the actual speed

[harsh tundra]

Theoretical bandwidth vs real transfer?

I "love" how we have to switch between two connections at home (in the countryside) because sometimes one is shitty and sometimes the other

And it was fun last week when I was at the office (in the city) but my zoom started disconnecting. My coworker asked if I'm at home with my normally shitty connection and I said no :D

[rough sapphire]

maybe too much LOSS ?

i had something similar issue earlier
it was my dns cache

[harsh tundra]

LTE doesn't really like custom DNS, it seems. Or just my windows breaking things

But work computer is Linux main (Windows only as vm)

But I think it was my huge uptime. Because when I turned off WiFi and turned it back on, it stopped disconnecting

But at least this made my coworker take control of client's shared screen - I hate doing bash stuff with people watching because I cannot look up things. And we had some archives to decompress, files to move...

Htop showed my uptime as 39 days, I think XD or maybe 29?

[carmine niche]

@bright solar

move here?

[bright solar]

its frustrating to talk about the trillions of unconsensual taxes @carmine niche but ill leave it at that

we all agree monarchies suck

[carmine niche]

i would like to point out that the education budget in 2020 was 64 billion

[bright solar]

yeah 64*18?

[carmine niche]

?

wdym

[bright solar]

1.152 trilliion

[carmine niche]

that'

s not how it works

the us spent 64 billion on education in 2020

[bright solar]

uh.. im sure budget is only going up in the next 18 years

[carmine niche]

not 64 billion for every age range up until adulthood

[bright solar]

even though the US created khan academy for free

yeah i understand..

[carmine niche]

erm

[bright solar]

64 billion for the next 18 years or more

and i will home school my children so i dont consent

[carmine niche]

that's worth comparing to the us defense budget which was 622 billion almost 10 times more last year

[bright solar]

my contributions are not consensual

[carmine niche]

ok but

[bright solar]

Yep that sucks too

[carmine niche]

hear me out here

[tardy rain]

Bruh no tax is consentual

[bright solar]

some are

for some people

[carmine niche]

the system you are advocating for just shifts the thing that is "unconsentual"
you are required to vote, that is not consentual

[bright solar]

its called tacit consent

[tardy rain]

None are, try not paying them and see how consentual they really are

[bright solar]

nah if you dont vote that means you didnt like any of the options

not consent

there should be a 3rd option in voting; like neither

[carmine niche]

you yourself said that if you don't vote then you lose your (land) property rights so that sounds pretty nonconsentual to me

[bright solar]

regardless if you vote we need to pay property taxes

#1 of the communist manifesto

i just wanted to note that 9 of 10 of the communist manifesto will come to fruition in the next couple of years

and when you hit the magic number 10; its only a couple years until the system starts to fail

[tardy rain]

Property tax is a scam, if you own something you own all of that something you shouldnt have to pay taxes for it

[bright solar]

its basically rent for that mafia security

[tardy rain]

Imagine having to pay taxes on your clothes after you bought them

[carmine niche]

ight listen

[bright solar]

lol

or food

[carmine niche]

imma stop u right here

cuz the thing is

you aren't debating the communist manifesto

you're debating me

lmfao

[bright solar]

why am i debating you?

I don't even know the topic we are debating i defined capitalism for you

[carmine niche]

i wasked you to define socialism in your own words since you said there was tons of socialist propaganda @ ur uni and you went off on a huge tangent about some list in the communist manifesto

asked*

[bright solar]

well yes. in my school the economics courses they defended those 10 points of communist manifesto

heavy progressive tax system property tax

state run education monopoly

[carmine niche]

those aren't socialist points tho

[bright solar]

.. if you define socialism as the worker's control of the means of production then you are confused

because you can already do that without force and with consent

[carmine niche]

what marx is saying here is that these things will need to happen if there is to be a socialist revolution
you are missing that those points aren't socialism itself and you are also missing that revolution is not the only path to socialism

[bright solar]

under a capitalist system my brother works for USAA which is a worker owned company

[carmine niche]

i will treasure this message forever

[bright solar]

you will never take away means of production without force because there will always be someone that doesnt choose to

[eager cliff]

uhm, is that not literally of what socialism is?

[carmine niche]

you are correct

[bright solar]

you need the state for socialism

force

[carmine niche]

that is not correct

[eager cliff]

what about anarcho-socialism?

[bright solar]

to get 100% of the system to be socialism you need to force people

[carmine niche]

anarcho-communism falls under socialism and it certainly doesn't have a state

[bright solar]

uh.. what about when people deny giving up their ownership of companies?

[eager cliff]

whether or not you need a state for it is irrelevant from the actual definition, is it not?

considering the definition is right there in plain sight.

[bright solar]

.. if you have consensual ownership of workers its just entrepreneurship

in capitalism you cant have 100% socialism without force in reality

like the people fidel shot against the wall like in fascism

innocent people that just said no im not giving my stuff up

[carmine niche]

to "have socialism" you need to force the 1% to give up their companies. to have capitalism you have to force teh 99% percent to allow the 1% to have companies. i don't see your point

[bright solar]

its more than 1%

[carmine niche]

fidel castro != socialism

[bright solar]

i know its communism but it was to make a point]

[carmine niche]

it was marxist-leninism

not communism

communism is an umbrella term

[bright solar]

there are 18.6 million millionaires in the US

[carmine niche]

marxist-leninism is authoritarian communism

[bright solar]

and 55% of americans are bourguisie stock owners

all socialism requires authoritarian state bro

[carmine niche]

owning stock does not make you bourgeoisie

[bright solar]

owning stock makes you owner of walmart etc

i voted for amc color of popcorn box etc

because i own amc

[carmine niche]

the bourgoisie are the people who make their money by owning things
whereas the proletariat make money by working
maybe 55% of americans do own stock
but do all of those people make a living by owning stock??

[carmine niche]

except like all the socialisms that are anarchist but ok

[bright solar]

all stock owners have private property that "exploits" the worker

I think the true debate is that you think capitalism exploits the worker

[carmine niche]

i mean by definition yes

[bright solar]

the true problem is if you compute the numbers it's not the boss thats exploiting the worker it's the consumer

[carmine niche]

the "true" debate is whether or not said exploitation is moral or necessary

[bright solar]

exactly

the consumer is exploiting the workers

[carmine niche]

the consumer is the worker idk what ass backwards logic this is but it ain't workin

[bright solar]

i downloaded the financial statements for the previous 5 years to trade stocks for sp500

and the funds are not siphoned away for the bourgoise it's the consumers that pay and generate revenue

[carmine niche]

the consumers are not extracting surplus value from the workers
the consumers are paying for the labor not making money from it
idk in what world you think paying for something is the same as making money from something but go off

[bright solar]

right.. but why arent all successful companies co-ops?

whats your hypothesis to that question

success=consumer pays for those goods

[carmine niche]

that's like asking why aren't all successful governments democracies

because some aren't

that isn't a point

[bright solar]

maybe your misunderstanding that ceos and managers add value

you think they dont

[carmine niche]

add value to what exactly
and who collects that value

[bright solar]

is it the boss or the owner that is exploiting?

you said it wasnt the owners

[carmine niche]

because the person that gets the value sure isn't the person that is giving up money

[carmine niche]

when did i say that

[bright solar]

you said stock holders arent the exploiters

[carmine niche]

again

[carmine niche]

.

the bourgeoisie exploit the proletariat

[bright solar]

ok i got water

[carmine niche]

ok

thought experiment

if i but a pencil for a dollar

[bright solar]

if someone owns things because their interest+rents+dividends then they are bourgeoisie

[carmine niche]

would you agree that the value of that pencil, as decided by the "free hand of the market", is a dollar

[bright solar]

how did they buy the shares to the company? a

nope the value is more or equal the dollar

[carmine niche]

that is literally just not how i defined it but go off

[carmine niche]

that works too

[bright solar]

dude i mean if they solely get those things

[carmine niche]

so we know now that the value of the pencil is >= 1, right?

[bright solar]

yes

[carmine niche]

ok

[bright solar]

hold on your having 2 conversations

go back to the thing you said before

[carmine niche]

now suppose that the company that made the pencil made a profit by selling it to me

does that sound reasonable

[bright solar]

yes Value = Benefit - Price + Price - Cost

Wealth of nations

[carmine niche]

what 👁️👄👁️

[bright solar]

some of that value is consumed by the worker as cost

[carmine niche]

yk what

i'm done with this

this is just

[bright solar]

I studied economics dude.

[carmine niche]

your logic is legitimately difficult for me to comprehend

[carmine niche]

so did marx

the argument from authority doesn't work

[bright solar]

dude lets go back to what you said if they solely make dividends from stock then they are bourgeoisie?

how did they buy the stock

[carmine niche]

do they live off of the money they get from the stock

[bright solar]

if you go to today's rich 80% are self made by working

yes

solely

[carmine niche]

then yes

[bright solar]

only 20% are inherited

[carmine niche]

imma need a source for that buster

[bright solar]

so socialism will hurt 80% of the worker bourgeoisie because we are upset at the 20%

ill get it

[carmine niche]

yk what

no

i already said i'm not doing this

i'm done here

[bright solar]

sure.. dude give up

dont learn the truth

go for non-consensual theft

[carmine niche]

-_-

[bright solar]

https://www.businessnewsdaily.com/2871-how-most-millionaires-got-rich.html#:~:text=Most of today's millionaires weren,with %243.05 million in assets.

88% of millionaires

[carmine niche]

i don't even like the system you think i like so ur just goin thru a yikes lmao

[bright solar]

are self made

no im defending my pocket and you from stealing it

or you from influencing other people to steal it

99% of software discord channels are full of people influenced by socialists

california was destroyed because of socialism

they will have 55% upper tax bracket similar to china or cuba

[carmine niche]

california isn't in the middle of a crisis so bad that the president had to declare the state unable to respond properly and step in himself

[bright solar]

it will have 55% upper tax bracket once biden passes his tax

once that happens it will get worse

[carmine niche]

biden doesn't pass legislation

[bright solar]

because the rich just leave

biden vetos or passes legislation written by congress

[carmine niche]

but congress writes the legislation lmao

[bright solar]

and congress has majority democrats with AOC and bernie

[carmine niche]

and if you're trying to tell me that biden is a socialist

yikes

[carmine niche]

majority by a single fucking seat lmao

[bright solar]

.. you dont want to see that the pillars of marxist leninist is common with democratic party points

its on the pdf and wikipedia bro

[carmine niche]

it just isn't

[bright solar]

.. every time we agree with the points you dont want to continue

[carmine niche]

the democrats don't want to confiscate the property of all emigrants and rebels

[bright solar]

i said 9 of 10

bro

also note that higher taxation is confiscation of property if they didnt vote for it

[carmine niche]

they don't want centralization of the means of communication either

[bright solar]

actually..

in new york and california they are passing taxes for people trying to leave the state

so yes they are confiscating the property of emigrants

its already a thing

i would need to open up the documents again

to explain

im not opening unless you dont give up again

I may be wrong bro; we can go through them to check

[surreal otter]

Remember back when the upper tax rate was well above 55%?

America was doign quite well in the roaring 50's last I checked

[bright solar]

lol defending marxism

[surreal otter]

When was America Marxist?

[bright solar]

remember when mao killed 8 times more people than hitler?

[surreal otter]

in the 50's? the height of McCarthyism?

What a straw man

[bright solar]

its a pillar of marxist leninism

not a strawman

[surreal otter]

What is? The old American tax rates?

[bright solar]

non consensual heavy progressive tax rates

[surreal otter]

The Tax Rates of Capitalist America at peak Anti- Communist time are "a pillar of marxism"

[bright solar]

if you are going to debate then please read the above and dont have me repeat things

[surreal otter]

Are the empty supermarkets in Texas "What would happen in socialist America"

I'm talking to you now

not talkign to someone else then

If you don't want to engage, don't

but don't redirect me to a prior conversation without a reason

'read all 400 lines before you can talk to me'

pass

[bright solar]

I am happy to say that i have 6 supermarkets within 15 minutes full of crap

you are ready to fight even though you are wrong atleast the other guy wasnt hostile

[surreal otter]

wrong how?

That 1950's america was marxism?

[bright solar]

how theft is wrong

idk if it was consensual

[surreal otter]

theft? what theft?

[bright solar]

Im not upset at 1950s america dude

[surreal otter]

Consent? How about the draft

[bright solar]

that was non capitalist bro that was actually a pillar of marxism

[surreal otter]

you're calling a 55% tax rate marxism

but America had a max rate much higher than that

[bright solar]

no i didnt man

[tardy rain]

They had a 91% marginal rate at some point

[bright solar]

i said that i dont believe marxism is good for people

[tardy rain]

Nobody paid shit tho

[surreal otter]

So when I asked what was wrong with it you said

and jumped right to hitler

[bright solar]

yes im talking about marxist points and how 9 of 10 are the same in the democratic party

im not talking about 1950s

[surreal otter]

I am

[bright solar]

yes

[surreal otter]

I'm talking about American Politics

and American Taxes

and how they worked

and letting the rich keep their money that we earned for them quite clearly does not

[bright solar]

who is taking your money?

[surreal otter]

Jeff Bezos EARNED his money? bahhahahahaha

My employer

[bright solar]

your boss is stealing your money?

[surreal otter]

The wealth I am producing

[bright solar]

why don't you become an entrepreneur or work somewhere else?

[tardy rain]

Technically you agreed to the salary youre being paid

[surreal otter]

Why doesn't he do the job himself?

[bright solar]

yeah why not

[surreal otter]

Because he CANNOT

he NEEDS labor

without labor, he is NOTHING

[bright solar]

if people leave enough the wage has to go up

i've quit plenty of jobs

[tardy rain]

And you need capital

[surreal otter]

Only because capitalism

[bright solar]

what?

[carmine niche]

ah yes we all know that making sure you kill exactly 8 times as many people as hitler is a pillar of marxist-leninism

[bright solar]

capital still exists regardless of the system

[carmine niche]

anyway i'm out lmfao

[carmine niche]

not rlly but go off

[bright solar]

?!

human capital is an example

[surreal otter]

Only because of the monetary system that has been produced by humanity, aka, capital

[bright solar]

if the US becomes socialist will you forget python?

[surreal otter]

all those fake assets

[carmine niche]

you can only say that because you're using a made up definition of capitalism

[bright solar]

?

[surreal otter]

No, I'm using hte actual reality of Capitalism

[bright solar]

to have profits and other parts you need to look at property rights its the full definition of capitalism

property rights allow you to have profits

[surreal otter]

the one in which our society exists

[bright solar]

not vice versa

we dont exist in purely capitalist system

[surreal otter]

yea, we exist in a shit system that's based on capitalism

[bright solar]

maybe its shit because of socialism though"?

[surreal otter]

lol

sure

[bright solar]

we can figure it out

[surreal otter]

because that thing we wont' try

that thing we can't try

[bright solar]

what?

..

[surreal otter]

that thing that when someone tries, we'll go ahead and CIA their democratically elected leader

[bright solar]

wow

[surreal otter]

?

[bright solar]

we went str8 into conspiracy

[surreal otter]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

str8 into conspiracy

or fact

like eveyr time a socialist is elected America suddenly finds a need to intervene

[bright solar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_humanoid

[surreal otter]

'humanitarian crisis'

how about saudi arabia? where's the humanitarian crisis there?

[bright solar]

whats going on in saudi arabia?

[surreal otter]

how about all those humanitarian crises in Africa?

[tardy rain]

Theres oil there

[surreal otter]

nothing, nothing to see at all

[bright solar]

whats a crisis about oil?

[surreal otter]

you know, chopping people up and melting em, beheading people for invalid cause

the daughter of the ruler

[bright solar]

what should be the response to violence?

more violence?

[surreal otter]

all sorts of shady shit? but we're not talkign abotu SA, it's just an example that the US doens't give a shit

no, but it's certainly not to SELL THEM MORE WEAPONS SO THEY CAN KEEP BOMBING CIVILIANS IN YEMEN

but hey, why not

how many schoolchidren in that bus?

how many militants? 0

[bright solar]

we went to conspiracy mode

idk what happened now

[surreal otter]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahyan_air_strike

is that so?

[tardy rain]

Its not a conspiracy that the US has trade deals with the UAE

and saudi arabia

[surreal otter]

You are talking out of your ass, constantly accusing me of conspiracies

just because you are uneducated does not make me a conspiracy theorist

have a lovely day 🙂

[bright solar]

..

So. we need to stop selling them guns; but we are debating other topics to distract people?

like socialism etc

[surreal otter]

not guns

bombs

jets

helicopters

[bright solar]

ok, we stop selling them bombs and jets

[surreal otter]

arms

[bright solar]

we being the US military?

or private weapons companies?

[surreal otter]

'private' weapons companies

that rely on my tax dollars?

to the tune of hundreds of billions ayeare?

bahahahahah why do we pay them the overhead?

[bright solar]

lol you are upset at me because there are high taxes?

[surreal otter]

expand darpa, fuck NG and Boeing

[bright solar]

im literally defending consensual taxes

why would you be upset at me?

[surreal otter]

consensual taxes?

I don't want taxes I don't pay em?

dafuq is that, I get benefits for free?

[bright solar]

yes.. the democrat party funds fascism and republican party executes fascism

[surreal otter]

'funds fascism' wow

[bright solar]

i want to make money though without paying the taxes

[surreal otter]

that's a good conspiracy you've got there

[bright solar]

yes are you blind? in 1913 democrats created the income tax

[surreal otter]

do you want to live in a country?

[bright solar]

and federal reserve

[surreal otter]

cool

[bright solar]

nope i dont

not one that bombs other people

[surreal otter]

And southern Democrats used to be unabashed racists

times have changed

[bright solar]

LMAO

democrats are still uber racist

[surreal otter]

Last I checked it's the republican tax scam that's making my taxes go up

[surreal otter]

as long as republicans are uber ^ 2 racist I'll agree?

[bright solar]

treating people equally is the best

not equity

[surreal otter]

lol

[bright solar]

equal results causes failure in society

[surreal otter]

Lemme strip you of everything, then give someoen else everything, then sya you get nothing, because htey have everything

[bright solar]

its just how it works bro

[surreal otter]

equality!

you get nothin, they get everythin, don't worry about where you start

good luckl

[bright solar]

the true problem why we dont have more opportunities is because our leaders are too old

and they dont know anything about modern business and technology

[surreal otter]

nope, because the money flows one way

[bright solar]

to google and amazon other democrat companies?

[surreal otter]

you know what Trickle Down economics used ot be called/

Horse and Sparrow

The logic goes

you feed enough oats to the horses

they'll shit some out for the sparrows

didn't go over so well so they renamed it

still uses the same logic

[bright solar]

why would anyone support crony capitalism unless you are owner of google or amazon?

[surreal otter]

because the only capitalism we get is crony capitalism

which is what oyu're supporting no? The capitalism that we're gonna end up with

[bright solar]

democrats create crony capitalism

[surreal otter]

And Republicans create?

[bright solar]

nothing