ot1-perplexing-regexing

[twin charm]

lol, his username ||duh||

[brazen ingot]

LOL is he working as a dev @quick ledge

[quick ledge]

idk

[vapid nymph]

wait really? That's the same way I found out where the python bot is located 😄

[twin charm]

you dont know about yourself

[twin charm]

hahaha

[vapid nymph]

127.0.0.1, like all bots

[quick ledge]

oh, Im a student

[twin charm]

frick

I wish I was

[quick ledge]

it's easy

just enroll in a local school

[twin charm]

not that wtf

I'm not saying I am uneducated

I said I'm not a cs student

[quick ledge]

ahhhh

[twin charm]

lol not like I dont goto school llmao

[quick ledge]

haha I know

[twin charm]

local schools dont teach computer science

until 12th they teach powerpoint,word and excel

and input and output devices

[brazen ingot]

@quick ledge You are in a certain grade?

[quick ledge]

not true with all schools

[brazen ingot]

what really?

[quick ledge]

in fact, that's not true with most schools

[twin charm]

in my old school it was like that (until 11)

[quick ledge]

usually, you'll be able to choose CS as an elective in 11th grade

[twin charm]

then I moved back to india and in 9th they teach html

but they suggest to use notepad.exe cringe

[brazen ingot]

back to INDIA?

[twin charm]

yes, I lived and studied overseas most of my life

[brazen ingot]

k

[inland wolf]

11th and 12th is gon be python for me

B)

[twin charm]

they teach c++ in my school

[inland wolf]

cbse moment

bruh

[twin charm]

yeah cbse

[inland wolf]

i want to learn c++

[twin charm]

eeeee

my brother took cs and when he was in 11 and 12 c++ was the shit they learnt

[inland wolf]

yea

[twin charm]

and were in the same school as well, lets see what lang I get

[inland wolf]

but i looked at the books for last year

its python

[twin charm]

ohh

noice

[twin charm]

the books I checked were from 2017 btw so 2020 python?

also I saw about mysql

[quick ledge]

they changed the curriculum

[inland wolf]

oof

[quick ledge]

I mean, they teach python now

although, I wouldnt be surprised if some schools still teach C++

[sinful bloom]

my brother has C++ classes

[vapid nymph]

t_t

[sinful bloom]

i wish i was college, im stuck in junior high school

[twin charm]

wait same

[sinful bloom]

yeah same

[twin charm]

is 9th considered as junior high school or is it 10th

[vapid nymph]

yes

nth

[twin charm]

o i c

[brazen ingot]

lol

[edgy crest]

c++ is good

[mild abyss]

dont underestimate a language that works

xD

[strange musk]

CBSE just sucks. it focuses so much on rote memorization

Toppers in my class knew shit, all they could recite was the whole book

[inland wolf]

ikr

[twin charm]

holy shit did you just explain cbse in a nutshell

syllabus is pretty dumb

except mafs

[finite sierra]

my cs teacher this year was not happy that I went beyond portion to make our project

[twin charm]

wtf should they be proud of you for learning new stuff

[finite sierra]

i made a django website while the rest of the class made the same hotel management thingy that everyone's been doing for school projects since the beginning of time 🤡

[finite sierra]

she said there wasn't enough stuff that we learned in class

[finite sierra]

but then is it my fault that they teach functions in class 12

not even class 11

[twin charm]

what in the world...

[finite sierra]

the cs curriculum is pretty rudimentary, they teach in 2 years what you can learn from a 5 hour freecodecamp video

and the fcc video would be better

[twin charm]

yasss

they could ramp it up

[vivid path]

If you want venginence report your teacher to the school administration

for giving outdated stuff

[twin charm]

report the teacher to the manager

[finite sierra]

lmao

[twin charm]

and then you realise, the manager is the teacher

[finite sierra]

but the prescribed curriculum is what is outdated, the school is just following what the board says

i can't really fault the school too much for it

[twin charm]

agreed

[twin charm]

like in myanmar

lemme see what I can do

(jokes )

fuck

time to run

if you really think about it, its the CBI

and interpol

meh FBI is like a local police station for parking ticket fining compared to interpol

[harsh tundra]

I wish...

[solid pollen]

Just need power, money and control

Easy, right?

[rich moon]

too easy

u have to hold

[acoustic moss]

really gave you the middle finger lol

i can't be the only one who sees it right

[twin charm]

wot is that

[acoustic moss]

stonks

[twin charm]

olymptrade shit

mm

[strange musk]

Suddenly discussion becomes WSB

[idle niche]

hey you guys know how you can slice a list in python like this:
new_list = old_list[3:]
does anyone know how to do that in java with arraylists?

[last rivet]

I wonder what is up with the off-topic channel's names, is there some algorithm behind this...

[rough sapphire]

I think they are simply picked randomly and won't be used after the next iteration

[vapid nymph]

!otn

Darn

!source otn

[royal lake]

Command: otname

Add or list items from the off-topic channel name rotation.

Source Code

Go to GitHub

bot/exts/fun/off_topic_names.py:67

[red willow]

ooooooh nice

good find

maybe we can build an AI that can come up with punny names

the AIs are my friend

and promised me they wouldn't steal my niche job

[rough sapphire]

when you advertise in a warning for advertising

[red willow]

I found Honey didn't do much for me

[rough sapphire]

oh

edge has a built in functionality for it

[red willow]

Microsoft Edge?

[versed saffron]

Sony actually

[rough sapphire]

yes

[vapid nymph]

I'm a fucking idiot

In multiple ways

I had brave shields on on my school website for a few months and finally figured it out. Turned It off and now I can use the website.

Like

I had to do workarounds to open all assignments

Tuendf off brave shelids for the website and suddenly it'd all easy af

[rough sapphire]

What did Shields have to block though that it broke the site

[vapid nymph]

Cross site cookies

Because this website is super integrated with google

[rough sapphire]

Ahhhh

[vapid nymph]

yeah

[rough sapphire]

This is mostly meant for staff, but did something happen to bisk?

[vapid nymph]

just ping him

@gentle moss

he's online

[rough sapphire]

Oh

...

In all the times I have asked what happened to bisk, I never thought to look if they were online

[vapid nymph]

lmao #voice-chat-text-0 message

[vapid nymph]

just do @gentle moss hey where you at?

or i will, apparently

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

…

why does #ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval have slowmode

and this channel doesn't

waiting for that mod to read that and be like "I can fix that" and turns it on for this channel

like please don't

[rough sapphire]

Yeah, their account is idle

[vapid nymph]

I like being able to talk to myself

.topic

[median dome]

**What Easter tradition do you enjoy most?**

Suggest more topics here!

[vapid nymph]

code golf for the hidden "eggs" aka bugs

[rough sapphire]

I tend to find to bunch my messages together in slow mode

I don't really have a major gripe with it

[vapid nymph]

right, which is why i don't like it

that much

i like multiple messages

😄

[rough sapphire]

Fair

[vapid nymph]

gets muted for spamming

mods if you mute me, I'll realize I am abusing no slowmode smh

.topic

[median dome]

**If you could travel anywhere in the world, where would you go?**

Suggest more topics here!

[vapid nymph]

sigh

time to open that google form instead

wait

it's different for all channels

cya be in #discord-bots

Do you think there's a way in which Discord could handle bots better?

yeah

don't make the stupid slash commands and try to rush it

[rough sapphire]

Anybody have an official windows 10 2004 download? Been trying to compare-verify mine forever and Microsoft support is no help

They don’t have sha256 hashes for previous releases available

[carmine niche]

salve

os li du vil, ja ;)

[topaz aurora]

In Haskell, the category of all top-level types e.g. Int, String, you name it, would be Hask

[carmine niche]

yes

[topaz aurora]

Given some arbitrary function

f :: forall hask. hask -> hask  -- Endomorphism

[carmine niche]

where morphisms represent functions between types and functions are represented by the same morphism if for all input values they produce the same output values, even when they are different functions

i guess what i am asking is what you mean by type level

[topaz aurora]

Likewise, if you apply the same concept to some other higher-kinded type e.g. cat hask can be a member of Hask still, since cat is any top-level higher-kinded type

f :: forall cat hask. hask -> cat hask

But if you treat the universe inside of cat as another category, you'd be able to define the notion of functors and friends

[carmine niche]

eee ok

i am gonna sleep

[topaz aurora]

It's kind of the same relationship that Python has with metaclasses

The type class is an object of itself

[vapid nymph]

Hewlo

[topaz aurora]

classes are types, and types are classes

I've yet to try and write my own typed language but if I do I'd probably follow through with higher-kinded types first

[tribal aurora]

what do you got for this logo ?

[gentle moss]

because i don't really pay attention to pings.

[gentle moss]

nope. just kinda doing other stuff.

[solid pollen]

It has been a while

[gentle moss]

started getting too loud in here.

[solid pollen]

Honestly, it calmed down now that we aren’t on Discovery first page

[robust valley]

woah

[strange musk]

Does anyone know how to install a git branch?

pip install+git doesn't do the trick

[golden salmon]

hello guys!

Im emre

[gritty zinc]

Isn't it pip install git+<link> ?

[edgy crest]

yeah i think that makes pip look for a setup.py in the repo

[strange musk]

well, that gets me the old version 😦

[edgy crest]

hmm 🤔

well then i think you should manually clone the repo and run python setup.py install?

but i dont know if that makes a difference

wait

you want to install a branch right?

yeah that should do it then

git clone linktorepo
git checkout branchname
cd reponame
python setup.py install``` @strange musk

[deep siren]

How would you even go about creating a completely new language? Seems like no small task.

[summer rampart]

@deep siren nowadays the easy way is to write the language in an existing language

[primal badger]

Could someone recommend me a product/way to, be able to switch between my inputs and ouputs quickly on my monitors,
I have a laptop with a single hdmi out, same for pc, I am wondering how I could have double external monitors and be able to quickly switch between the inputs

so I guess I would need something that could split a hdmi signal to 2 hdmi outputs, and then also be able to do that with 2 inputs

[topaz aurora]

Language design is hard, yeah; although I'm quite fond of LISP-like and ML languages so most of what I have planned is based on there

In terms of writing proper compilers/interpreters though I have the choice of compiling to bytecode or using LLVM to generate machine code for me

There's also the choice of compiling to JS

[deep siren]

So you might first design a language conceptually, then draft a language spec, then write a parser in an existing language that generates some intermediate representation?

I don't know much about LISP, other than it used to be popular in the early days of AI

and that emacs was written in lisp

[topaz aurora]

I mean, the first time I wrote a AST-evaluating LISP I kinda just bodged it together

[solid pollen]

If you are interested in how to create programming langauges, I acnnot recommend https://craftinginterpreters.com/ enough

It is an amazing free book

[deep siren]

It's a very pretty looking book

[mild abyss]

thanks for the link. i plan to create melon lang

in the next 20 years or no xD

[topaz aurora]

I feel powerful

[mild abyss]

wait... 53 days... 53rd streak... non stop coding your project?

[topaz aurora]

Yep

[mild abyss]

thats amazing 😮

[topaz aurora]

50 days of backend programming afaik

Let's see

Yup!

I can't remember those other 20 days though

Oh, right, my old site which was pretty meh

[mild abyss]

i cant wait for summer to start. i want this sem to end already

then i will do a streak like that again

[brazen ingot]

I see your commits

[mild abyss]

i think when i learned python, i did a four month streak

[brazen ingot]

4 years streak

lol

[mild abyss]

but that was meh, since what i have learned evaporated to thin air because i did not do any projects

[topaz aurora]

I tried making it as coherent as possible, even if it meant rebasing a few times to make sure that commit names were mint

[brazen ingot]

Oh

[topaz aurora]

I spend more time writing commits than I do working on smaller chunks of code

I wish I was kidding, it's a plague

[brazen ingot]

btw can you descript what you're building?

[topaz aurora]

It's my personal website

Which is gonna replace https://purefunctor.me very soon

[brazen ingot]

Same here

akarys is also working on that @solid pollen as You said ?

[mild abyss]

@brazen ingot followed u just in case

[solid pollen]

What did I do

What am I working on

What is life

[tranquil orchid]

42 probably

[solid pollen]

True that

[rough sapphire]

anyone can help me in configuring irc

[topaz aurora]

Anyways, gonna work on the repository view cards for my site

[rough sapphire]

ihave erc

[topaz aurora]

Be back in a few

[vapid nymph]

you need a client

[rough sapphire]

I have ERC

[vapid nymph]

o

[brazen ingot]

Oh but why ? what thing did you liked in me? can you explain?

[rough sapphire]

The one thing that is bugging me is the password setting

[vapid nymph]

ask in the irc discord :thonk:

[mild abyss]

making your own personal website is part of the portfolio by itself lol

[tranquil orchid]

I swear I'll finish my site one day

[brazen ingot]

aha you don't know your life 😭

[mild abyss]

nah i follow people which i find useful in the war between lemons and cucumbers

[brazen ingot]

Oh cool 😄

[rough sapphire]

life is not an object. it is an singularity

[mild abyss]

oh wait ^melons and cucumbers

correction

[rough sapphire]

link?

[vapid nymph]

/s, that was a joke, sorry

[rough sapphire]

ok

[tranquil orchid]

I'll probably try get back to some projects in a few weeks when the holidays starts

[brazen ingot]

ah Thanks So sweet of you 😄

[mild abyss]

man i think i wanna try Automa.jl package and make my own parser hmm

[tranquil orchid]

I doubt I'll start any of the big projects I have in mind then though, I'll just do a few smaller things

[mild abyss]

reason i did not do any big projects is because i am discouraged because my idea is already implemented or made by other people

turns out u dont need to lol

[tranquil orchid]

I got a few ideas I haven't seen yet

so I'll see how those go

[mild abyss]

I wanna try creating a CellProfiler in julia

but i cant do experiments with that if i am on a Intel pentium quadcore with 4GB ram

xD

[spring kraken]

Who has heard @lemon pep8 song?

[brazen ingot]

me

@mild abyss How did you see my profile ? btw where did yo find that

you*

[mild abyss]

you connected your github to your discord account and made it viewable?

lol

[brazen ingot]

Oh cool 😄 Hope you liked my readme.md

[mellow spire]

lmao

[topaz aurora]

uwu

Man that's nice

[solid pollen]

Your card is broken

[topaz aurora]

how

[mellow spire]

Hey pure, did you test piston-cli on NixOs, super told you were going to ,,,

[rough sapphire]

irc or discord?

[solid pollen]

You have a star now

Also, the card is pretty sick

[topaz aurora]

The description was a bit of an oversight

I forgot to integrate it to my API

[topaz aurora]

I can try, but not until I update my channels

Which I only do weekly

Because breakage

[mellow spire]

Yeah, no hurry at all.

[topaz aurora]

Here's what it'd look like with the description; I'm also using fontawesome icons although I have to move to codepen if I want to use it

[solid pollen]

That’s cool

[topaz aurora]

I'm... not normally this good at designing stuff

Feels odd to think I made this

[tribal aurora]

why is ur site unsafe

[topaz aurora]

SSL cert I'm too lazy to change

[solid pollen]

It is too wide to have the stars on one side and the commits on the other if you ask me

[topaz aurora]

I will, one day

[solid pollen]

Not using certbot smh

[topaz aurora]

Yeah, that's a side effect of using w-1/2 lol

[tribal aurora]

where did u get the domain

[mellow spire]

namecheap ig

[topaz aurora]

Porkbun

[tribal aurora]

justin?

[topaz aurora]

It'll be roughly around this size when paired with other cards, should I place the stars+commits together instead?

[tribal aurora]

no, that's cool

[topaz aurora]

Input is welcome

Be harsh

[solid pollen]

That should be fine like that

[topaz aurora]

The cards should also hopefully be responsive on a mobile view

[tribal aurora]

yea

[topaz aurora]

e.g. instead of a 2hx3w grid, it'll just be a long boi

Unless it's a tablet or something chunky

Although ultrawide screens are my bane

I don't know how those look like

[mellow spire]

awesome

give pure functor a colour

the name of the repo

and put commits after the commits sign

star is pretty self explanatory

[solid pollen]

You should add the language

[edgy crest]

+1 for rounded corners

[tribal aurora]

@edgy crest noice

that package

[edgy crest]

[tribal aurora]

AUR package

[edgy crest]

oh

[tribal aurora]

:/

[edgy crest]

thanks

[tribal aurora]

not available on fedora ?

I wish i had it

[edgy crest]

no i dont know how to put it on fedora's pakcage manager

you can install it through pip

!pypi wand-cli

[royal lake]

wand-cli v2.4.9

Author

vinam

Requires Python

=3.8

Summary

A cli tool with an in-place terminal editor to compile over 27 languages instantly using the wandbox api.

[tribal aurora]

any source code? so i can compile it on fedora

[topaz aurora]

give pure functor a colour
@mellow spire I'm keeping a flat colourscheme for my site
and put commits after the commits sign
That's a great idea, thanks!
You should add the language
@solid pollen Gotcha, although that'd be in the near future

[mellow spire]

I am mostly adding piston-cli support for fedora, will let you know when it comes

[tribal aurora]

Tanx!

[edgy crest]

does fedora use rpm?

i thought it used yum

[mellow spire]

https://github.com/Shivansh-007/piston-cli/ This is piston-cli if u dunno,

[edgy crest]

lol that means yum is mostly used by CentOs gramps

wait it uses dnf

[mellow spire]

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Churchyard/Python2Drop/Packaging:Python

[tribal aurora]

it does

but dnf is literally yum

it's like

umm

[edgy crest]

[tribal aurora]

pacman and yay

lol

[edgy crest]

ah

[tribal aurora]

dnf is the better version of yum

yum is older

[edgy crest]

i c

[tribal aurora]

and harder to use

[edgy crest]

i am kind of bored of this project so idk if i will be interested in adding it though ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tribal aurora]

U have to ... 😠

[edgy crest]

am thinking about making a audio visualizer in rust for now

[tribal aurora]

ah rust..

[edgy crest]

basically gonna make a cava clone

i have no idea how though

[tribal aurora]

lol

that's a good start tho

[edgy crest]

i dont even know how am i supposed to record audio

maybe that could be fixed if i use python with rust

get the input from python do the processing in rust

[tribal aurora]

um, recording is easy on python tho

yea

[mild abyss]

@edgy crest your nickname... is..

cursed...

[tribal aurora]

cursed?

[edgy crest]

rust and python

[tribal aurora]

bleh

C++ and python is better :/

[edgy crest]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i dont know c++

wait, its hard to use python inside rust, though the reverse is really easy

[tribal aurora]

C++ is better than rust for several reasons:

1. You're free in C++
2. There's no goto in rust
3. Variadic functions
4. Templates

and it's hard to impl them

[solid pollen]

What wait

[tribal aurora]

or maybe some af them exists

idk

[solid pollen]

C++ is better because they are gotos?

[tribal aurora]

i use goto quite often

[acoustic moss]

👀

[solid pollen]

.xkcd 292

[median dome]

XKCD comic #292

Neal Stephenson thinks it's cute to name his labels 'dengo'

2007/7/20 - #292, 'goto'

[nova viper]

hello

[tribal aurora]

elo

[acoustic moss]

h

[nova viper]

op

bye

[acoustic moss]

...
how did you remember the number

[runic wigeon]

hELLO

[nova viper]

hello @runic wigeon

[runic wigeon]

Ultra mod power u know

[runic wigeon]

😉

[solid pollen]

I know some of them 😄

[edgy crest]

i think i can create a temporary wave file buffer from python, and use that in rust

wait that wont work

[rough sapphire]

Ah, that's reasonable

[acoustic moss]

what about 2020

[wraith lodge]

(o_o)/

[twin charm]

bruh you need to update to 2021

living 4 years in the past smh

[wraith lodge]

from google

[rough sapphire]

where do I find the location of where a module was installed?

[edgy crest]

pip show modulename

[inland wolf]

why is bash so weird

[edgy crest]

[inland wolf]

u end a case with esac

and if with fi

but loops end with done

shouldnt it end with elihw?

[carmine niche]

bash is not the most sensible language ever to exist

[vapid nymph]

👏

[inland wolf]

lol

[gritty zinc]

oh god Cython why

why must you inject this into my nice dark-moded jupyter notebook

[rugged echo]

hello darkness my old friend,

[carmine niche]

lmfao

[gritty zinc]

I can't even read the code because of the yellow highlighting

[rugged echo]

i've come to talk with you again.

[carmine niche]

big oof

because a vision softly sweeping

[rugged echo]

Left its seeds while I was sleeping

[carmine niche]

creeping

not sweeping

[gritty zinc]

https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues/5909
😩

[carmine niche]

but

whatever

[carmine niche]

OwO

[rugged echo]

And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains

[carmine niche]

smh my head come back to me when python can x = x

[rugged echo]

Within the sound of silence

[gritty zinc]

oh, can it be?

[acoustic moss]

>>> x = 5
>>> x = x

gg ez

[carmine niche]

[carmine niche]

as a definition

not as an assignment

declaration

intialization

definition

whatever u wanna call it

[round rose]

declaration is not a separate operation

you can only assign a value-tion

[acoustic moss]

it is, in her consideration

broke the chain of -tions dammit

[vapid nymph]

How do we view cpython jengerated code?

[acoustic moss]

:|

[vapid nymph]

Or jenerate it

[round rose]

I fix

[acoustic moss]

*fixtion

[rugged echo]

😢

[carmine niche]

Prelude> x = x
Prelude> let 2 + 2 = 5 in 2 + 2
5
Prelude> x
*busies*
Interrupted.
Prelude> 

[gritty zinc]

nooo, it doesn't have themes!

    def _css(self):
        """css template will later allow to choose a colormap"""
        css = [self._css_template]

I need it now, Cython 😢

[vapid nymph]

@gritty zinc how do you generate xypthon code?

[gritty zinc]

See https://cython.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/quickstart/index.html. I'm literally just getting into it myself.

also, note: Cython != CPython

CPython is the Python implementation you're probably using, Cython is the above (a way to write on a certain mix of Python and C that's then compiled into C code for, in many cases, huge performance gains).

[vapid nymph]

Ah, what is the huge difference?

[carmine niche]

lies

[gritty zinc]

well, at least it should be able to optimize stuff

that's an incentive for writing pure functions

[carmine niche]

python and functional are pretty incompatible

i mean you could do it i guess

but

it wouldn't be fun

there's a reason lambda syntax is almost intentionally awful 🙃

imagine not being able to update all of your applications + your system in a single action while still using your machine

windows must suck

/lh/hj

[graceful basin]

Imagine having to actually update your system manually

[carmine niche]

i prefer it

i don't like it when things are complex and bloated but i also don't want things to be hidden from me

also my os is rolling release so

it would be updating constantly

which isn't necessary

[vapid nymph]

Imagine using nightly/alpha builds so you're constantly updating

[graceful basin]

I really don't like having to do chores to keep my system up and running securely

[carmine niche]

i mean

if you are really so averted to doing it manually just set up a corn

cron*

i don't see the problem 🙃

[graceful basin]

If you do that in a rolling release, your system will eventually break (maybe void linux won't actually, didn't test that)

[carmine niche]

o?

[graceful basin]

Arch wiki specifically tells you to check forums before updating in order to not break your system

[carmine niche]

OwO

meh

i just update once a month or something

it's probably fineee

[graceful basin]

Suuuure

[carmine niche]

and whenever it isn't i just reinstall

i've done it before and i'll do it again

it takes like 5 mins

[graceful basin]

Well, I will admit I don't check either

[carmine niche]

not counting the idle time to run my setup script

am updating right now 😎

[rich moon]

when u spend more time trying to get ur system to work than actually doing work

[carmine niche]

i don't tho

that's for windows users to worry about

🙃

trying to set up gcc/g++ on windows

literal hell

[graceful basin]

Use clang

[carmine niche]

clong

imagine having a separate installer for all your applications

[vapid nymph]

@graceful basin I run sudo apt update whenever

[carmine niche]

debian != arch

[graceful basin]

Do you also run apt upgrade sometime

[carmine niche]

lol

[vapid nymph]

Wait. What

[graceful basin]

O no

[vapid nymph]

You mean update doesn't update

[carmine niche]

no

it updates the cache

[vapid nymph]

Excuse me while I go run upgrade.

[carmine niche]

lmao

[graceful basin]

I do wonder why that's 2 commands

[carmine niche]

that's why you gotta run it before installing something cuz you wanna have a fresh cache

[carmine niche]

i thought that since they integrated all the commands into just apt they made it so that it apt updates automatically

maybe not

i forget i haven't used any debians in a while

[rich moon]

too many things to type

[graceful basin]

It is possible

[vapid nymph]

I don't wanna say I'm dumb but it took me 2 months to turn off brave shields to fix a website that I visit for 6 hours a day

[rich moon]

kinda annoying

[graceful basin]

I have no way to check

[carmine niche]

nor i

[vapid nymph]

was shhing to update

[gritty zinc]

oh yis

%%cython
import numpy as np
cimport numpy as np
DTYPE = np.int32
ctypedef np.int_t DTYPE_t
cdef class RandomGen:
    cdef np.ndarray arr
    cdef int N
    cdef int index 
    cdef int low
    cdef int high
    def __init__(self,int low,int high,int N=10**5):
        self.arr = None
        self.N = N
        self.low = low
        self.high = high
        self.index = N
    cpdef int next(self):
        if self.index == self.N:
            self.arr = np.random.randint(self.low,self.high,self.N,dtype=DTYPE)
            self.index = 0
        cdef int res = self.arr[self.index]
        self.index += 1
        return res

[carmine niche]

when i did use debians i always had aliases for the shit

[edgy crest]

what language is that

[gritty zinc]

random number generator using Cython and numpy.random for being about ~3 times faster than random at one number at a time

[gritty zinc]

Cython

[edgy crest]

[carmine niche]

# ~/.bashrc
...
alias install='sudo apt update && sudo apt install'
```etc

[edgy crest]

looks cursed

[proper anvil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/809000180728070157.gif?v=1

[acoustic moss]

...

hmmMMM

[edgy crest]

...

[acoustic moss]

interesting

[carmine niche]

$ install discord
```or whatever

$ install rustup

[edgy crest]

i did not have the intention to make

[rich moon]

um

did u actually make that

[acoustic moss]

internet

is beautiful

[edgy crest]

well yeah.. just for fun

[rich moon]

ping him and get him to add that cursed sht

[edgy crest]

he already knows lol

[vapid nymph]

who

[edgy crest]

its actually an emoji in the gurkan server

[rich moon]

that is fuking cursed

[edgy crest]

and he is there so yeah

[vapid nymph]

who is gurkan?

[edgy crest]

?

[vapid nymph]

@graceful basin ….

[acoustic moss]

ahahahha

[carmine niche]

kernel 5.11 is out i think

[vapid nymph]

i thought I had updated twice

this is a pi so it might not have that

[carmine niche]

apparently it contains a way for wine etc to translate win syscalls to posix syscalls which is nifty

[vapid nymph]

what

I use a winey system that could be good news

smh how can I update my kernal?

[carmine niche]

idk

[edgy crest]

too bad it isnt arch its just sudo pacman -Syu in it

[acoustic moss]

i use windows btw

[rose anvil]

Does anyone know how to open a password protected .zip file without the password

[odd sluice]

is there some tool like wget for windows

that is pretty useful

(tag me if replying)

[coarse heath]

You can run wget on win10

[odd sluice]

tysm

[prisma agate]

Is Debian the new IE?

coz Manjaro is on linux_5.10 something and Debian is on linux4.9

And I don't see a newer version

[true stag]

Best programming teacher ever

[vapid nymph]

so what that C or C+?

[rich moon]

its F#

thats the class average

[vestal briar]

from flask import Flask, request
from rewrite import Org, User, BadUserCreds

org = Org.signup("qwerty123")
app = Flask(__name__)

@app.route("/protected")
def protected():
    try:
        user = org.auth(request.cookies.get("X_AUTHRIO_Key"))
        return f"User {user.id} was created at {user.created}!"
    except authrio.BadUserCreds:
        return "Invalid/outdated api key passed!"

@app.route("/signup")
def signup():
    try:
        user = User.create(org, request.args["password"])
        return f"Created user {user.id} at {user.created}!"
    except authrio.BadUserCreds:
        return "Password too short/long!"
```suggestions for api layout of `authrio`?

[vapid nymph]

I like protonvpn since it has a free tier

[vestal briar]

all vpns are bad

protonvpn is the least bad

as long as you chain, sure

not as in speed

as in security

[vapid nymph]

Aka most secure?

[vestal briar]

yep

from what i can recall anyway

ive never needed a vpn

just researched em a decent bit a while ago

whats the point though

they have your identity

pretty sure nord has basically yearly server breaches

and theyve shown to keep logs

proton is the most secure so if you have to use a vpn, use that

but why tor if your using a vpn

how so?

force https then

force https like tor allows by default

what browser are you using

use something better

its not

not as good as firefox

other crap -> the chinese one -> chrome/brave -> chromium -> firefox

less shit on it

depends if you want google or not, which i dont

you can still have it on chromium

i just dont want extra bloat im not using

its connected to all the google services which i dont want so theres no point installing extra stuff

and also its proprietary which is a concern to some people and means that itll be open to more security breaches then the oss its based upon

brave is just generally worse, i forget why but something about them selling ads and a couple security breaches

so no real point using it

firefox works fine

thats pretty shitty

for a privacy focused browser they sell personalised ads?

must be personalised

no matter what you search?

ah hm alright

is it opt in?

or opt out

huh i support that thwen

uk

old cert also so no cache weirdness

rip

ive not really been on a site thats not https in the last year

ah ive got https everywhere lmao

lmao

yum shitty isps

uk ones dont really care

all they do is price fix a bit

"compromise your device"

codeword for they got payed to do that

yeah

they redone the ui a few years ago and it improved a ton i remember

i think its the fastest browser atm? dont quote me on that though lmao

yeah

at the time of the ui redesign there where a few benchmarks that said it was

yeah they probably are

especially firefox/chromium

i remember using chromium a bit ago and thinking "huh suprisingly fast"

lmao yeah

ive never really had a problem with it so i keep using it

yeah

i wouldnt trust any proprietary browsers even just due to security

i support the use of firefox and chromium because they seem about as good as each other to the point i dont really care sorta thing

but i think chromium destroyed adblocking a while ago didnt it?

[vapid nymph]

Brave is based

[vapid nymph]

Yeah

I use brave for school lmao

Firefox is my normal browser and I do school stuff in brave

Reason: they have control over chrome

But brave, nahhhhh

[vestal briar]

ah yeah

everything i use is free

[vapid nymph]

Same

[vestal briar]

so apart from getting cool tshirts no point

[vapid nymph]

Quick what password manager

[vestal briar]

bitwarden

obvious choice

[vapid nymph]

For how long

[vestal briar]

i think a year now

[vapid nymph]

Mf

*my face

I used last pass for the last year 😔

Within a day of finding out that last pass was changing their shit

I moved to bitwarden

[vestal briar]

yeah

since 2019 bitwarden has been the best

in terms of security at least i think?

i mainly went to it due to their payment system

very easy to use for free- not many limitations

[vapid nymph]

You mean their non existant one

[vestal briar]

i know they have some limitations

but i forgot because ive never ran into them lmao

[rough sapphire]

I think Brave, at least, didn't implement the adblocking stuff

(Or will not implement)

[vapid nymph]

Right

[rough sapphire]

Chrome might have (or will)

[vapid nymph]

"might"

Chrome is based on chromium, if chromium adds it, Chrome sure as fuck will.

[rough sapphire]

I have heard about features taken off Chromium, for addition to Chrome itself

[vapid nymph]

Pardon my French because I hate chrome

[rough sapphire]

No worries

I do too

I use Firefox, but there are some features in Brave that I wish have been added to Firefox

[vapid nymph]

There's one thing that bugs me about firefox

Not enough to make me switch

But I have bugs with window management

[rough sapphire]

Oh

Tab groups?

[vapid nymph]

No

Like if I press the taskbar icon it doesn't open

[rough sapphire]

Ah

Can see that being a dealbreaking bug

[vapid nymph]

I have to press it around 3! Times to open a window

But because the android app is really nice I love it

I think there's one thing that all browsers could add but I figure they never will

Integrated password manager support.

Where instead of Firefox suggesting lockwise, it suggests from bitwarden

Basically a password manager api

@rough sapphire

@vestal briar wut you use on mobile?

[rough sapphire]

I imagine they could, yeah

But yeah, they never will

Not because it won't be good

But I feel like there's the mentality of "not broken; don't fix"

"Bitwarden already works"

"It can auto-fill your passwords already"

[vapid nymph]

Well

It would be a great deal for some password managers

But why would Google want to move away from being your password manager?

[vestal briar]

firefox

[vapid nymph]

Same

[rough sapphire]

Fair

[knotty pasture]

you know what's unfair?

life

deal with it

[mint lichen]

thank you for these profound words

[carmine niche]

i will deal with it by working towards making it more fair

:)

[mint lichen]

yup! 'life isn't fair' isn't an excuse to be unfair in your own actions

[last rivet]

this video has the best like/dislike ratio I've ever seen.

It's so good it has less than 0 dislikes.

[honest pawn]

🤔

Is this a manual inspection thing?

[last rivet]

couldn't be, look at the bar

in a typical video there's at least 1 pixel if there's a dislike

[honest pawn]

Did you change a variable of some sort?

[last rivet]

hold on

[honest pawn]

Otherwise, you had to have edited the text and the bar value

And if that isn't the case ...

Someone else is cheating

[last rivet]

hmm

when I give it a dislike, it goes to -1

[honest pawn]

[honest pawn]

I thought the number of dislikes was always a natural number

[last rivet]

also I just came back to that video, the original image is hours ago

meaning that the dislike count is the same (at least for me)

[honest pawn]

something's wrong, I can feel it

[last rivet]

Am I allowed to give you the video just to see if it does the same for you?

[honest pawn]

Not accusing you of lying, just confused

All I do is make my own autoclick script in interactive Google Doodles

[last rivet]

I am wondering if the server does not allow sharing of youtube videos.

[honest pawn]

How can that be

This is !ot
And other people do it without trouble

[gritty zinc]

At the very least, it can also be zero.

[last rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESoYiBnZb88&t=6s here's the video (sorry if I am not allowed to share videos here in advance)

it has -2 dislikes to me

[honest pawn]

Ok ill watch it later

[last rivet]

ok

someone else spotted it in the comments.

just confirmed it with another computer*

[rough sapphire]

It does

Damn

[last rivet]

found an explanation from someone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkwyHDLHIfs

apparently if your account is marked as spam, disliking something does not count as a +1 in the counter

but if you undislike it, the counter goes down anyway

so it's an error in the source code of the dislike button

[vapid nymph]

and if you dislike it again it doesn't go up?

[last rivet]

yeah, kind of like that unsubscribing issue from a while back

which made people get negative subs.

[vapid nymph]

so one person could just farm negative downvotes

[last rivet]

maybe

[vapid nymph]

scuse me building a bot to spam comments and downvote everything so i get an account marked as spasm soley for educational content videos

spasm
I'm just gonna leave that

[last rivet]

hol' up

[vapid nymph]

(and I'm entirely kidding, not doing that. The entire thing)

[last rivet]

anyway, that was really sudden.

if your channel is considered "spam" by youtube's algorithm, your likes and dislikes don't count.

you can't know if you are marked as spam though.

[carmine niche]

wack

[dark goblet]

Wym python ain't skynet it is

[topaz aurora]

Can't decide between doing pagination or overflowing contents for my site

This is what it looks like right now, on mobile views that collapses into a single column with multiple rows

My problem is basically getting scroll-snapping to work consistently, on mobile at least, if I do overflows

Likewise, I can do overflows on the desktop view, but that also means refactoring the scroll-snapping behaviour

[twin charm]

ooh

[topaz aurora]

This works

Yeah, I like this

[twin charm]

bruh

I liked the first one

I mean.. sure

[topaz aurora]

It looks alright

The order they're put in determines the shape

I can do some interesting stuff given that behaviour

[twin charm]

o cool

where are the vim users at?

I got a question

[lunar shore]

There I am

[tribal aurora]

ok

so

what was the converstion about

[lunar shore]

Nothing , ankith was telling Python is too slow for comp , and then hahastinkypoop solved a problem he sent him with Python

[tribal aurora]

😂

the names ..

[twin charm]

I mean, it is still slow even if hahastinkpoop manages to solve a problem

[tribal aurora]

stinky*

[twin charm]

comparative sense*

meh, I call it hahastinkpoop

[tribal aurora]

stinky is better ig

lel

[twin charm]

lolsmellyshit is also an alternative @acoustic moss

[lunar shore]

Still , I disagree
It heavily depends on your algo

[tribal aurora]

bro, python is slow

[twin charm]

you guys would never understand, I am not saying my algo is slow because of the language

[tribal aurora]

but, i really like python cause there are tons of good functions

[lunar shore]

Doesn't mean it's impossible to do problem solving

[twin charm]

just that generally, python is slow

[lunar shore]

I'm not telling Python is the cause

[tribal aurora]

i mean there are functions in C++ but...

[twin charm]

but I did

and then I regretted

[acoustic moss]

true, but not as slow as people think it is

[twin charm]

but still, python is sloww

[lunar shore]

Slow , but as hahastinkypoop said , not SO slow

[twin charm]

compared to other languages, yes
just cause you did

i = 0
while True:
     print(i)
     i += 1

and the numbers are printing 100 in1 second doesnt mean its faster

[lunar shore]

Well , to a point , C++ is much faster than Python , but as the problem gets more complex , you'll realize that the difference is not much , in some cases it's hardly 3 ms

[twin charm]

I thought python was fast too when I ran this thing, but then I did the same in c++ and damn!

[acoustic moss]

CP is meant to test the efficiency of the algorithm you come up with, not the efficiency of the language you wrote it in.

[twin charm]

noone is getting my point lel

[tribal aurora]

Yes, but it takes so much time

u know

[twin charm]

but efficiency of the language influences the efficiency of the algo right

[twin charm]

yesss

[lunar shore]

Well , to a point , C++ is much faster than Python , but as the problem gets more complex , you'll realize that the difference is not much , in some cases it's hardly 3 ms

[twin charm]

the vice versa of this is false and I agree

[acoustic moss]

no? the algorithm itself has nothing to do with the language

[tribal aurora]

No, not the run time, to solve the problem without having those function that are available on python

like heapq

really good module

[twin charm]

slow language will affect the algo and also on how much time it takes to finish running

[lunar shore]

im talking about the runtime

[tribal aurora]

C++ is faster than Python.

[lunar shore]

Completely wrong
O(n) in C++ is O(n) , and in Python is O(n) too

[acoustic moss]

yes

[twin charm]

🧐

[gritty zinc]

no, you're talking about asymptotic algorithmic complexity 😛

[twin charm]

what if you put a thousand values in an array and do the same for python and c++. which will take more time?

python = ans

[lunar shore]

For simple problems, like printing something it's so much faster
for something more complex , the difference get's lower
I tried that for dozens of problems

[twin charm]

what about memory management

imagine iterating through an array in c++ and the same in python

[acoustic moss]

ugh

<@&267629731250176001>

[twin charm]

its gonan take a lot of time in python and less time in c++

[oak tangle]

!shhh

[royal lake]

✅ silenced current channel for 6 minute(s).

[remote socket]

!silence

[royal lake]

❌ current channel is already silenced.

[remote socket]

!pban 748371863377412098 Spam

[royal lake]

:ok_hand: applied ban to @rustic dagger permanently.

[remote socket]

!unshh

[royal lake]

✅ unsilenced current channel.

[acoustic moss]

thanks

[tribal aurora]

lol

mods are here

[twin charm]

@acoustic moss whats your opinion

[remote socket]

y0s

[twin charm]

o hai

[tribal aurora]

mods are everywhere is good for ot's name ig

lol

[twin charm]

yes

[lunar shore]

The difference is hardly recognizable . Because you're just adding the values of the index

[twin charm]

but there is a difference isnt there?

[tribal aurora]

Dude, why are you struggling to say python is equal to C++

[acoustic moss]

that's not my point at all
The point is you're worrying about runtime before worrying about complexity
An O(n^2) algorithm in c++ will be slower than a O(n) solution in python for large enough datasets

[lunar shore]

And really, trust me on this
The more complex the problem
The less difference it has between languages

[twin charm]

hmmm

[lunar shore]

I'm not saying they are equal , I'm just correcting you guys

[twin charm]

lets just agree to disagree

[twin charm]

its supposed to be the reverse way, but mmk

🤝 ok guys nice talk 😄

[lunar shore]

Well , I tried to correct you , and you are disagreeing
Reverse in that way?

[tribal aurora]

correcting who? me ? what am i saying? i'm saying C++ is faster than python and ur saying it's not ? nah

Issue Closed by MrNil

[lunar shore]

Not you lol! Ankith is saying problem solving with Python is impossible for some problems

And I'm disproving that

[twin charm]

no, reverse way = we correct you but you still keep on talking because you cant accept being wrong

[twin charm]

i never said impossible, its just gonna be difficult COMPARED to c++

[lunar shore]

I am still talking because you didn't even try doing it

[tribal aurora]

@twin charm what's ur problem

about python

[twin charm]

I will send link to the codeforces

[lunar shore]

Not really . You won't need a different algo for each
An algo in C++ would work with the same algo in Python , maybe in a different way

[twin charm]

yes it will work! but wont it take more time to finish running?

[tribal aurora]

^ yes

[twin charm]

https://codeforces.com/contest/4/problem/C

[lunar shore]

And that time is ignored in 99% of the websites

[lunar shore]

hahastinkypoop already solved that 😐

[twin charm]

except codeforces, which is what I sent in the beginning

[acoustic moss]

I'll give you this, the same algorithm will take more time to run in python than in c++.

possibly

[twin charm]

thats my point

[acoustic moss]

but if you don't get the algorithm at all, that's irrelevant

[lunar shore]

And I'm saying the difference gets lower as the complexity goes higher , so both would have the same algo and both would work

[twin charm]

lets forget that I submitted stupid code into codeforces and talk generally

[twin charm]

ok maybe

[lunar shore]

@twin charm I've tried that on so many problems I've solved , so I'd tell you that , you decide to agree or disagree

[twin charm]

I decide to stop talking gtg 👋 😄

[lunar shore]

Okay bye !

[inland wolf]

what if u do !shh

or !shhhh

[twin charm]

!shh

bruhh

[acoustic moss]

the number of hs affects the duration of the mute afaik

[twin charm]

I need to submit a new pr

[inland wolf]

oh lmao

thats nice

[twin charm]

o really?cool

[brazen ingot]

@jolly tinsel Hi Ledger! 😄

[twin charm]

@brazen ingot you said you use vim right

do you?

I have a doubt

anyone uses NERDtree as the file explorer thingey in nvim?

how can I set the defauly directory as the file I just opened

right now its showing all folders in cdrive and not the python file's folder structure

[tribal aurora]

nah

just coc-explorer

[twin charm]

ohk

[oak tangle]

Yeah, as @acoustic moss said, the number of hs influences the duration. It's 2 minutes per h with some maximum.

[twin charm]

@acoustic moss how do you know this classified info 👀

[inland wolf]

lol nice

[acoustic moss]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[twin charm]

[twin charm]

nvm I got it

YOO, it looks like 🔥 now

[acoustic moss]

been inspired by a rickroll haven't you

[twin charm]

yes, the file i opened is @shadow jetty's project on github

[twin charm]

holdon, why did you think that

[acoustic moss]

o lol

no reason

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[topaz aurora]

15 minutes iirc

[edgy crest]

can we alias it to !ZA WARUDOOO where the O's are the duration

[narrow pecan]

It’s all in the source code

Pretty interesting implementation

[twin charm]

yea that means hahastinkypoop read the source code!

absolute madlad that person

[narrow pecan]

See try_silence in https://github.com/python-discord/bot/blob/master/bot/exts/backend/error_handler.py

Hahah or just learnt through asking or seeing it in use

[twin charm]

I see

[shadow jetty]

i have an improved color version of this somewhere, but it's a bit slower to render

[twin charm]

hmm

[shadow jetty]

i init the colors manually to make it look better

[twin charm]

its pretty kewl 👍

[shadow jetty]

https://gist.github.com/salt-die/576220194d14ea69894cd129a91fba34

[twin charm]

lmao @viral parrot sent this same video yesterday.. awesome!

[shadow jetty]

i should have updated the terminal movie projects, but i'm lazy

[twin charm]