avery (me) is defined as itself, which is permitted since haskell is lazily evaluated. the "value" of such a token is "bottom", which is a word to describe the value of something which never returns / can never be fully evaluated. so the joke is that avery is bottom.
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
carmine niche
mild abyss
:((
carmine niche
why sad face
mild abyss
:)) because she is a bottom
graceful basin
You can even use operators as argument names
(*.*) |>=>| c = c *.* c
well
haskell has first class functions
which more or less means functions are values
operators are functions, functions are values, and functions can take in values
mild abyss
u can even redefine operators right since theyre functions as well?
mild abyss
julia also has that feature as well
honest pawn
Great
Everything can be redefined
carmine niche
u can even redefine operators right since theyre functions as well?
not so much redefine as shadow
mild abyss
though not as full as haskell's
carmine niche
just the same way that you can shadow variables in python
mild abyss
since haskell is pure fp
graceful basin
Quite a few languages have haskell like operators, some are even more powerful (though I can't think of anything else that can name arg as an operator, though I expect raku can do it)
carmine niche
lol
the only limitation in haskell is that identifiers must either be all textual or all nontextual
graceful basin
And all operators must be binary infix
carmine niche
so add and $$<><><>+,.., are both fine as identifiers but <hsa> is not
carmine niche
And all operators must be binary infix
not necessarily
there isn't really such thing as an operator
there's just functions and infix functions
and all infix functions are necessarily binary because well.. they're infix
i could just as easily do something like
graceful basin
Still can't make circumfix operators
graceful basin
That's not valid haskell though, it would be (+) 2 2
carmine niche
no
what i did is fine
you need the () if you want to use an infix function as prefix
but remember in the example
i am shadowing the (+) function
so i can define it however i like
well
i guess i would have to unimport prelude first
since prelude specifies + as infix
but with just the base language it would work
graceful basin
Non textual identifiers cannot exist as prefix
graceful basin
Try compiling ++++++++++++++ 2 2 = 7
carmine niche
i forgot this
graceful basin
(+++++++++++) 2 2 = 7 is fine though
mild abyss
so much too much so many very much plus plusses
carmine niche
lol
one two three four five
textual identifiers must be prefix as well
i think
anyway as for do notation it is just sugar for the bind (>>=) and bind-drop (>>) operators
example:
-- this
main = do
name <- getLine
putStrLn $ "Hello, " ++ name
-- is the same as this
main = getLine >>= (\name -> putStrLn $ "Hello, " ++ name)
in the same vein
-- this
main = do
putStrLn "1"
putStrLn "2"
putStrLn "3"
-- is the same as this
main = putStrLn "1" >> putStrLn "2" >> putStrLn "3"
monads go brr
question
what does infix do if it is chained
mild abyss
dead 💀 chat dot e x e
carmine niche
lmfao
uneven pine
"putStrLn" Has to be the worst series of letters to print something ever
carmine niche
¯_(ツ)_/¯
print was taken
print = putStrLn . show
or rather
print :: Show a => a -> IO ()
print = putStrLn . show
Man I hate haskell so much
uneven pine
I can't stand pure functional programming in general
carmine niche
why not qwq
uneven pine
it doesn't work with my brain
rich moon
imagine not being able to mutate variables
uneven pine
I tried sitting down and earning haskell for about a week recently
I couldn't really get past the very very basics
carmine niche
imagine not having to worry about the problems state causes
hmm
i could try to help qwq
i think the biggest problem anyone has is just lack of resources
uneven pine
Purely functional programming is basically an antipattern to the way I process information in my head.
rich moon
imagine being iq and never creating a race condition
uneven pine
I like things like python and rust that balance styles of programming
carmine niche
i think js balances better than python
uneven pine
Yes but Js is also the worst programming language ever created
carmine niche
but that's just my opinion
carmine niche
Yes but Js is also the worst programming language ever created
i don't agree
js is pretty fine
uneven pine
I will force myself to write haskell before I touch JS
I hate JS with the most passion out of any programming langauges
Hell, I've had to write Fortran 77 recently
twilit shore
Why?
uneven pine
and I prefer that over JS
carmine niche
C++ and PHP definitely deserve that hate more than js does
twilit shore
JS is pog
uneven pine
Js is plastic disc?
carmine niche
js is not the best but it is not the worst by far
like i said it is pretty fine
imo
rich moon
lambdas using () => is ugly
uneven pine
It tries to do too much at once, it's stretched too thin, the communities are too fragmented, and the syntax rarely makes actual sense
carmine niche
lambdas using () => is ugly
lambdas using lambda: is ugly 🙃
uneven pine
I actually like those style of lambdas, my language uses a similar system
carmine niche
i like js lambda a lot
rich moon
and the entire thing looks like one big callback
uneven pine
python's lambdas are one of the worst implementations of anonymous functions if you ask me
graceful basin
JS has to do all that, since well, there is no alternative to JS
uneven pine
which is the biggest problem
graceful basin
Python lambdas are intentionally bad
carmine niche
lmao
graceful basin
Since FP is really not a good fit for python
uneven pine
yeah lambdas are not pythonic
carmine niche
yes
which is why i don't like python that much
i am a very fp person
also why i don't think it is that balanced
graceful basin
I only like fp if it's pure and such
uneven pine
# However, anonymous functions (Lambdas) are first class objects!
var x:lambda = <arg1, arg2> -> { return arg1 + arg2 }
two different sculptures made of the same rock
graceful basin
The weird half mix a lot languages try to just ends up as worse closure or worse haskell most of the time
uneven pine
it's important to note, in this situation lambda is a TYPE HINT
not a syntax requirement
graceful basin
I like the 6 different raku lambda syntaxes
carmine niche
The weird half mix a lot languages try to just ends up as worse closure or worse...
i think rust and js do a pretty good job of striking a balance between the procedural ideas and the functional ideas
uneven pine
that can also be written as
var x = <arg1, arg2> -> {return arg1 + arg2}
I don't
carmine niche
for either of them??
uneven pine
It's like this due to an interesting fact about my language
being that functions are NOT first class objects themselves
graceful basin
Ye, JS you either end full on FP which would be better in a different language, or procedural which is fine in JS
carmine niche
oh no
uneven pine
they are optimized down a bit, but lambdas ARE objects, therefore slower, but more versatile
graceful basin
Rust I haven't really tried, but the only marginally fp thing I saw were closures and lazy linear linked lists=iterators
Which are also features of python
graceful basin
I have not seen any rust example doing functional stuff like recursion over mutation
I don't doubt you can do it
But rust programmers don't
carmine niche
and the preference of piping values through functions (a.b().c().e().f().g()) over just mutating a bunch of stuff
uneven pine
I don't write a lot of Rust, I use it in places where I would normally use C or C++
except wherenot possible
rich moon
when u use recursion to do some version of the loop
ive done racket
and its different...
graceful basin
Rust feels like "procedural code with some functional stuff here and there", whereas clojure is more FP with procedural here and there
uneven pine
the basement flooded so I took an extra day of work lmao
carmine niche
rust is extremely functional for what it is imo
uneven pine
It's about as functional as you can get for a systems language.
carmine niche
anywho
graceful basin
Yeah, which is not very functional
uneven pine
Functional programming and systems programming don't really go hand in hand
graceful basin
If I am writing functional code, I want it to actually be functional. Which is why I very rarely use monads in haskell and such
Scheme, shen, clojure, elm can all do that with varying degrees of success
Rust can't from what I've tried
I find it much more ergonomic to just write regular old procedural code
Same in JS
uneven pine
again, different purpose for languages
carmine niche
how are monads not functional lmao
graceful basin
They literally are a way to represent imperative programming in functional terms
carmine niche
no
graceful basin
So they are imperative programming
carmine niche
they are just a concept from category theory
graceful basin
Ye, that is more how they are used in code
carmine niche
which happen to be used, sometimes, to allow for easier handling of concepts like persistence
no Maybe for you then
no lists either
graceful basin
I use Maybe, just not it's monad instance (unless I actually have a sequence of actions each of which may possibly fail and it is in fact the best way to express it)
graceful basin
Though I find that once I start having sequences of actions is when the weird bugs show up
graceful basin
You can use a type without using its monad instance
carmine niche
you still have Text and such
but
i mean
yeah
but
it is still a monad
anywho
now i am curious what the bind implementation is for lists
graceful basin
I think it's just map the function and concat
high zealot
Ol
graceful basin
And honestly, not using String is a good idea anyway
shell raptor
If I am writing functional code, I want it to actually be functional. Which is w...
I have the same feeling, if you write everything all the logic in IO or AppM or something like that, it's not very different from imperative languages... apart from the expressiveness, maybe
it's like -- if you have a non-pure language, is this function pure?
def apply_twice(f, x):
return f(f(x))
well, it doesn't do any side-effects on its own, maybe yes?
But then, you can pass a side-effectful function here:
apply_twice(launch_missiles, 42)
and all the reasoning valid for pure functions is now potentially invalid.
so if you write logic in an arbitrary monad, you're potentially writing impure code that launches missiles
topaz aurora
I have the same feeling, if you write everything all the logic in `IO` or `AppM`...
This ultimately arises from the use of a monad stack where more often than not, IO is at the bottom so one can perform arbitrary actions without leaving the context. I guess at that point, the only real "functional" code is the crutch that you're writing monadic code that you can compose.
Composability and purity are vastly different things
tribal aurora
is it fedora rolling release ?
uneven pine
Fedora is not rolling release no
carmine niche
well
io actions aren't really good for that
~<
i mean you could do it like that i guess but
io actions are magic
magic should be avoided
arctic zodiac
wanna know whjats crazy
carmine niche
what
arctic zodiac
my main discord acc got hacked
arctic zodiac
that i made 4 years ago 😢
and this is discords reponse
Hi again Bella,
Thank you so much for your cooperation regarding this matter.
I just wanted to let you know that I'll be escalating this ticket to a team member to look into further your compromised account. I genuinely apologize for the inconvenience in the meantime and will keep you updated here as soon as I hear back.
Let me know if you have any other questions at any time.
Best,
Jonathan A
carmine niche
:((
arctic zodiac
this is my acc
#bot-commands message
it goes to the message
of the userinfo i did
wen i joined
carmine niche
rich moon
discord is real dog sht when it comes to customer service and security
carmine niche
tbh
topaz aurora
io actions aren't really good for that
Good for? IO actions are the only way to interact with the real world, unless you mean using Free monads in which case then yes, it helps at the cost of more code
carmine niche
i mean that io actions aren't good for having the entire logic of the program
imo as much as possible should be outside the io action
since io actions are magic
topaz aurora
Yeah, that's the common pattern outside of monad transformers
carmine niche
hmm
how should i implement fmap for the result type
y'see the problem is
no not fmap
<*>
the problem is that with two ok's it makes sense, with one ok and one error it still makes sense, i just pass the error along
but
i don't know what to do when it is two errors
it seems to me i have to pick one of them
topaz aurora
My vague intuition on applicatives tell me you should pick the left
carmine niche
oh?
topaz aurora
Either does at least
e.g. there's no need to evaluate the right side if you're already erroring out at the left
carmine niche
i suppose that makes some sense
but i don't like that
evaluation order is supposed to be fake
🙃
topaz aurora
Since <*> is ultimately the same as
ap lhs rhs= do
f <- lhs -- This fails immediately
x <- rhs
pure $ f x
i suppose
topaz aurora
evaluation order is supposed to be fake
Could you elaborate?
carmine niche
in a pure functional language evaluation order is irrelevant
topaz aurora
In some cases, yes, because you're essentially doing declarative programming
carmine niche
haskell is die hard declarative lmao
at leat
least
when you come at it from the category theory point of view
topaz aurora
But in monadic contexts where it imitates imperative programming, it is relevant, and in the case of applicatives where it's a declarative facade over and inherently imperative pattern, evaluation order does matter, what doesn't is how you group them
carmine niche
what do you mean by a declarative facade over an inherently imperative pattern
topaz aurora
Since `<*>` is ultimately the same as
```hs
ap lhs rhs= do
f <- lhs -- This ...
This, over
a = lhs <*> rhs
That implies that ordering in do-notation doesn't
carmine niche
theoretically, it doesn't
well
no
the order does matter
but it doesn't matter in what order you evaluate
topaz aurora
It doesn't at the syntactical-level (at least in modules), unlike how you write terms in languages like C or Python; it also doesn't at the runtime-level because of laziness. But do-notation is different, it's syntactic sugar after all.
carmine niche
and for some things the order does not matter
if we pretend for the moment that nothing magical exists
in haskell
the order of evaluation, even within do notation, does not matter one bit
topaz aurora
Sure
carmine niche
well
hmm
bottom throws a wrench into things
idk
whatever
lmao
does bottom throw a wrench into things
idk
lazy evaluation makes me unsure whether bottom is significant
topaz aurora
Monads aren't commutative :V
carmine niche
topaz aurora
Well, they don't guarantee to be
carmine niche
i mean
pallid ether
haskell is comfusing
carmine niche
what do you mean by guarantee
the monad laws cannot be checked
methinks
you know what really interests me
the idea of a quantum functional paradigm
a super abstract functional paradigm rooted in quantum computing
absolutely fascinates me
topaz aurora
Trivial example, but bear with me
x = do
env <- getEnv -- May fail
insert $ r1 -- May fail
delete $ r2 -- May fail
y = do
env <- getEnv
delete $ r2
insert $ r1
```While these two actions essentially do the same thing, the side effects make it so that evaluation order matters to developersI was trying to emphasize on academic/practical terms
carmine niche
hmm
it would be interesting to try to make a haskell equivalent but rooted in quantum
or some sort of pure fp thing at least
topaz aurora
There's always a LISP for everything
carmine niche
i am not sure how much brainpower it would take to square quantum with category theory
topaz aurora
They won't go hand-in-hand, unless you mean porting Haskell/GHC to a quantum computer and using the applications of category theory that it does
carmine niche
no i mean having it be fundamentally rooted in quantum
reversibility and all that shit
tribal aurora
I use fedora btw!
carmine niche
that if anything is one of the most fascinating things about quantum to me
tribal aurora
hi
carmine niche
how it enforces certain laws
tribal aurora
how you doing
tribal aurora
had a great installation
tribal aurora
pretty fast
carmine niche
i dual boot windows and arch
spice flame
rust is technically pretty good for quantum
tribal aurora
hah,
spice flame
being that it implements a version of affine types
tribal aurora
personal preference
ig
but dnf is dam cool
i don't know how you didn't like it
...
topaz aurora
being that it implements a version of affine types
Haskell now has LinearTypes™ but I'm not sure where they're going with that
topaz aurora
The proposal states that it won't be used for any compiler optimizations but at least we're getting Dependent Types™
carmine niche
ooo
spice flame
also the entire functional/imperative split is kinda stupid if people don't really define what either means
carmine niche
dependent types are nice
dependent types are one of the things idris has had the upper hand on
spice flame
monads are a way to reify typed computational effects-- nothing more or less
carmine niche
also the entire functional/imperative split is kinda stupid if people don't real...
but both terms are well defined :/
carmine niche
monads are a way to reify typed computational effects-- nothing more or less
monads are also well defined, and not defined like that
spice flame
if you think that sequential computation is not functional, then, well, i don't know what to tell you
carmine niche
it isn't
fundamentally
sequential computation and pure functional are incompatible
well
not necessarily incompatible
spice flame
how are monads not that
topaz aurora
CPS is sequential
carmine niche
just that in a pure functional program the sequence doesn't matter
topaz aurora
CPS is pure
carmine niche
CPS is pure
what is cps
spice flame
you're conflating declarative and functional
carmine niche
pure functionality is inherently declarative imo
functionality in general is not necessarily so
topaz aurora
what is cps
Continuation-passing style
carmine niche
ok
so
i am delirious
because it is like midnight
i am gonna sleep
and in the morning i will read up on this shit
since my brain is not absorbing it now
and then we can talk
topaz aurora
One last thing as well, Free is implemented as a list of functors, of which both concepts are inherently pure
spice flame
well
i guess that's a way to say the free monad is the coproduct over all self-compositions of a functor
but anyway, inversion of control (cps) is a functional concept
so i don't see how control flow ISN'T functional
topaz aurora
Purity is ultimately up for the runtime to decide, but by all means, IO itself is pure, the effects introduced by the runtime aren't; but maybe I'm just being pedantic
spice flame
no, you're fine
which is why i said monads were a way to encapsulate computational effects in a typed way
carmine niche
io is not a great example because it is magic
topaz aurora
More like well-written wizardry within GHC that abides laws, making it pure
carmine niche
it is magic
topaz aurora
STM is as well
carmine niche
a term i have given a precise definition in other conversation
though i cannot retrieve it atm
assuming stm is the state monad, it is not magic
topaz aurora
Ah, I meant ST
topaz aurora
Well, you're right in that regard
carmine niche
yeah it looks magic
i will try to find the precise definition tomorrow but
suffice it to say that i am using magic to mean "pure but meaningless unless given special meaning by the compiler"
error is also magical
i really like thinking about haskell in terms of category theory
it gives me joy
ndaskjdnsaj
infinite types when
prisma agate
can someone help me with a captcha
eternal wing
can someone help me with a captcha
you can feel free to ask your question, make sure it does not break rule 5 though
prisma agate
its almost like if the website doesnt want me too register
eternal wing
haha, yeah that one is torture. You should be able to reroll it
prisma agate
@viral parrot
viral parrot
yeah... i figured you hade to have something like that
edgy crest
3 z a I 1 F 2 ?
viral parrot
i see 3zI12
edgy crest
dunno though its really weird
eternal wing
we need to keep the machines out by asking them their emotional response to images now....
We will keep away the bots and the sociopaths
prisma agate
You have exceeded the maximum number of registration attempts for this session. Please try again later.```maybe this one is only supposed to keep out humans
prisma agate
lol
long topaz
PHP!! Yay!!
last mantle
no
tranquil orchid
what even is that
eternal wing
what even is that
that is clearly 讙
inland wolf
yes
inland wolf
lol
brazen ingot
what even is that
that seems moving
long topaz
#cybersecurity help needed...
tribal aurora
hey
I've got some problem when i log in
about themes
i think that's because the env variable that i set for Qt5ct
tribal aurora
acoustic moss
can you remove the overlay in inspect element
mellow spire
open with incongnito
inland wolf
~~can you remove the overlay in inspect element~~
perhaps
inland wolf
open with incongnito
true
brazen ingot
since when did medium do this
lol same here
But when I open with incognito and then medium be like 😭
inland wolf
i have just discovered how useful symlinks are
spotify was taking 5gb on my C drive (which was low on space) so i used a symlink to make it think it was still in the C drive
ha
B)
rough sapphire
spotify was taking 5gb on my C drive (which was low on space) so i used a symlin...
gg
nice work
inland wolf
wait is it bad if i make a lot of symlinks?
rough sapphire
wait is it bad if i make a lot of symlinks?
of course not
until u mess it up
lol
inland wolf
lol
inland wolf
lol
royal lakeBOT
@solid pollen @narrow pecan
It has arrived!
inland wolf
oh interesting
solid pollen
Fairly good
narrow pecan
rough sapphire
<@!233481908342882304> this captcha breaks my brain
when captchas are way too strong they prevent humans
rough sapphire
when captchas are way too strong they prevent humans
like the roblox one
my brain nerver just folfed hands
and begged for mercy
rough sapphire
like the roblox one
ohh yea that one was hard
rough sapphire
ohh yea that one was hard
really hard
worldly grail
spotify was taking 5gb on my C drive (which was low on space) so i used a symlin...
I do the same but with
Downloads , documents,and desktop
inland wolf
ic
last mantle
idc
sacred sorrel
heyy
wooden sapphire
WHY IS THIS CHANNEL NAMMED PHP WINS AGAIN?
scenic blaze
It's random
mellow spire
looking for someone who is familiar with ubuntu and arch packaging for piston-cli.
mild abyss
fire eat f1re
edgy crest
f1re eat fire *
mellow spire
w1ter eat f1re
golden walrus
w0ter*
clear acorn
Blackholes eat everything
quick ledge
looking for someone who is familiar with ubuntu and arch packaging for piston-cl...
I guess you could publish your package to AUR, it should be easy enough
for ubuntu, look into something like Launchpad
I don't have much knowledge in this respect though
mellow spire
ok thanks!
cosmic lake
milk
tribal aurora
switch to Fedora 
edgy crest
i wouldnt be surprised if you come back some time later saying x is better than fedora
tribal aurora
I won't
edgy crest
¯_(ツ)_/¯
quick ledge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
quick ledge
what is it?
edgy crest
see 
, it was just a few seconds
tribal aurora
wha?
edgy crest
nothin
drifting sage
Just boosted the server, supporting the server as much as I can :)
edgy crest
nice
quick ledge
hey, thank you
edgy crest
i only did it for the blue color
tribal aurora
@edgy crest having problems about a distro doesn't mean i want to switch
lol
@quick ledge I've got a black screen after upgrading
quick ledge
oh lol
edgy crest
just saying everyone has their opinions, and switching distros and operating system's is a pain
quick ledge
did you get it fixed?
tribal aurora
Nope
edgy crest
welp good luck 
quick ledge
see if you can find a fedora linux server
quick ledge
others would probably have the same issue
edgy crest
edgy crest
not a big fan of its logo tbh
edgy crest
still its logo is better than manjaro 
edgy crest
manjaro has like that worst logo ever
tribal aurora
the owner came and split a square to smol things and called it a logo
do you agree amd > nvidia?
last mantle
do you agree amd > nvidia?
not yet haha
tribal aurora
yes haha
solemn leaf
Can we use Rufus to flash Android x86
fringe creek
dont i make such great commit messages
acoustic moss
My last commit message was
"Final commit before I screw things up"
im going for, like, huge changes
fringe creek
https://github.com/AceLewis/my_first_calculator.py/blob/master/my_first_calculator.py have you seen this lol
just look at the last commit
acoustic moss
what the fuck
spring kraken
Dose anyone want to check out my discord bot?
fringe creek
what the fuck
that right there is the highest quality calculator ever made
super high tech
goes all the way up to 50
acoustic moss
madlad
fringe creek
if 3/2 == 1: # Because Python 2 does not know maths
``` 
twin charm
https://github.com/AceLewis/my_first_calculator.py/blob/master/my_first_calculat...
what the fuck
where do you find this
fringe creek
# TODO: Make it work for all floating point numbers too
acoustic moss
ahahhha
fringe creek
where do you find this
just look up my first calculator
its the first thing that shows up
twin charm
wait this is your repo
fringe creek
no lol
inland wolf
https://github.com/AceLewis/my_first_calculator.py/blob/master/my_first_calculat...
bro
last mantle
its kinda like my ticc tacc toe
tic tac toe
😔
oh wait
ahahhah i thought you were zee
oops sorry
twin charm
hha
carmine niche
```py
if 3/2 == 1: # Because Python 2 does not know maths
``` <:Kekkles:7324788...
dnbashdshjdsa
python 2 does know maths
honestly i think the python 2 thing was better??
like what happened to "explicit is better than implicit" hmm????
you could like
make an effort to follow your guiding principles
acoustic moss
honestly i think the python 2 thing was better??
👀
carmine niche
cuz
the problem is
they kept the mechanic that / performs integer division when used on two ints
but they made it so that int literals are implicitly converted to floats
which i dislike
i would also be ok with it if they made / just do float division in all cases
but the thing with implicitly converting to float (unless you explicitly said it was an int), idk that just seems kinda wishy washy to me
and also breaks the zen of python
just my two cents
i'm not necessarily saying the python 2 system was good
just that it was more consistent with the guiding principles of the lang
and less implicit
the best system imo would just to have / always do float division
wait
:O
i am testing it and it is doing always float division
i could have sworn they kept the int division mechanic
wack
i guess they didn't
acoustic moss
are you thinking of //
carmine niche
in that case i like the python 3 system better
acoustic moss
lol
acoustic moss
>>> 6.0//4.0
1.0
i am aware qwq
inland wolf
ok
acoustic moss
ok
inland wolf
print(x)
no
acoustic moss
no
carmine niche
yes
acoustic moss
print(x) will work in 2 too
inland wolf
yes
acoustic moss
ok
inland wolf
agreed
twin charm
wot
acoustic moss
I see we are in mutual consensus
carmine niche
x = x
print x
python2!
rough sapphire
python 4 droppin when
idk
carmine niche
minecraft 2 droppin when
rough sapphire
x = "my name" print x
rough sapphire
minecraft 2 droppin when
idk
carmine niche
> `x = "my name"
> print x`
name = "Avery"
putStrLn name
print('magic')
plz tell
carmine niche
```
code here
```
for syntax highlighting put the file extension or lang name after the first ```
so for python it would be
```py
some python code here
```
```py
x = 'Avery'
print(x)
```
gets you
x = 'Avery'
print(x)
haha
rough sapphire
Need some help buying or making a computer/pc. Not sure what to look for in specification, for general web programming, running emulators etc. Or you Dm me if you can help
rough sapphire
What's the budget
Up to a 1000 euro, but the cheaper is the better 😃
proven furnace
minecraft 2 droppin when
Bible 2 droppin when
strange musk
Up to a 1000 euro, but the cheaper is the better 😃
M1 Mac Mini
carmine niche
yes
harsh tundra
today's one of many Cat Days. idk if it's local or international. but I'm far away from my overlor-... I mean, my cats
rough sapphire
squireel eat squiel
harsh tundra
your discord id after your name suggests you're indeed an overlord... 😮
honest pawn
What is the purpose of LOLCat?
harsh tundra
that's the language of our overlords, the cats
high zealot
Ok
wicked barn
carmine niche
if the admins are salmons they better watch out
for i am the catboy
and nothing gets in the way of me and my salmon
clear plume
furries smh
carmine niche
furrys smh my head
edgy crest
furrys?
carmine niche
furries
rich moon
ew furries
dim tapir
ew furries
🐱
💪 🟨 🖕 Furry that read your post:
🟨
🦵 🦵
lol im not one tho
they are weird ngl
vapid nymph
🐱
💪 🟨 🖕 Furry that read your post:
🟨
🦵 🦵
use a zero width space to fix that
dim tapir
use a zero width space to fix that
what's that
vapid nymph
dim tapir
👀
vapid nymph
put that character at the beginning
dim tapir
we have to make rock paper scissors with python
now i am being told think up something that is like rock paper scissors
and just replace the-
also, do emojis work in a '(insert emoji here)' kinda way
mild abyss
@clear plume hmm imma look at the sources i have collected in sending a real empty space
mild abyss
u added "\n" lol
vapid nymph
inland wolf
yes
inland wolf
yes
vapid nymph
Especially around a cheeky dev I know which added support for \ prefix escapes. They fake run the command and edit after to say you got gnomed.
edgy crest
**
**
vapid nymph
Aur?
edgy crest
arch user repository
edgy crest
edgy crest
btw you get a warning at the end, i dont know what it means, it doesnt do anything though
mild abyss
hmm i kinda wonder why u allow read and execute. i guess it is fine and safe lol
mild abyss
Hey, anyone here use LastPiss?
use bitwarden
edgy crest
btw i added inline inputs if you dont provide args in the latest version, though not in the AUR version, i will update it soon
vapid nymph
Right, but has anyone used it?
vapid nymph
use bitwarden
I do now. Moved today.
mellow spire
Right, but has anyone used it?
meant for me?
vapid nymph
What are they gonna do, now?
mild abyss
btw i added inline inputs if you dont provide args in the latest version, though...
noice
mellow spire
run code on it
vapid nymph
No i mean do with lastpass
mild abyss
<:yay:478322402879733763>
change it to 700
edgy crest
change what to?
vapid nymph
@remote socket lmao what did you do?
remote socket
?
vapid nymph
Can you go invisible for 10 seconds?
remote socket
why
vapid nymph
Because the member list is broken for me and you're the only non borked member
remote socket
oh yeah that happens to me as well sometimes
restart your discord
should be fine afterwards
mellow spire
that list is corect
vapid nymph
Sounds about right.
remote socket
lol
vapid nymph
that list is corect
Yes, each admin is worth two members.
remote socket
@trail juniper did you duplicate yourself
vapid nymph
Oh, the other mention oops
mellow spire
lol
trail juniper
Oh so you saw the cryo chambers
mellow spire
i didn't see that 4
vapid nymph
i didn't see that `4`
And the 8 on moderaties
mellow spire
there are 5 rn
vapid nymph
Also I just counted
There's only 29977 members online
It says 31671
Which is clearly wrong
OK this one is total bullshit
remote socket
!server
royal lakeBOT
Created: 4 years, 1 month and 9 days ago
Voice region: us-east
Roles: 82
Member status: 
29173 
120840
vapid nymph
Also says there's 1 lead
edgy crest
are helpers not included in staff?
vapid nymph
But we know there's zero
vapid nymph
are helpers not included in staff?
That's staff or private channels I assume
Aka all channels where everyone has read messages turned off I guess
Probably
That's an assumption
edgy crest
oh its in the channels category didnt see that
vapid nymph
What is the eighth news channel
I'm gonna take a stab and say it's either an internal channel or a different channel, not sure
vapid nymph
use bitwarden
Btw, I do, as of today.
And I regret not moving sooner
The entire UI is just better.
edgy crest
uwu
edgy crest
ill add a thumbsup instead ig
edgy crest
inland wolf
uwuify text - yes/no
edgy crest
good point
inland wolf
B)
edgy crest
i have ;( for an error is that ok 👀
inland wolf
wait doesnt that mean ur winking while being sad?
brazen ingot
LOL akarys moderating on IPAD!
edgy crest
why are you so shocked about that 
edgy crest
i think you must have said you use an ipad someday and when he saw the online icon as a mobile he guessed ¯_(ツ)_/¯
unless they are using some modded discord
brazen ingot
unless they are using some modded discord <:monkaS:596577132063490060>
No lol
solid pollen
I am not shown as being on mobile right now, am I?
brazen ingot
I am not shown as being on mobile right now, am I?
No not rn
solid pollen
Because I do be on my iPad haha
But I’m using the web portal and Discord is really confused by that
brazen ingot
Ok do you wanna know where did I found that you're on ipad?
solid pollen
Haha, fair
brazen ingot
LOL Ik
solid pollen
Is @trail juniper a salmond lizard?
trail juniper
Do you think the channel names would lie
royal lakeBOT
Created: 4 years, 1 month and 9 days ago
Voice region: us-east
Roles: 82
Member status: 31574 118480
brazen ingot
damn
brazen ingot
lol yes you should update the web now saying we have 150k developers!
drifting sage
yayyy 150k !!!!!!!! 
solid pollen
Our staff of over 50 dedicated expert Helpers
brazen ingot
lol yes you should update the web now saying we have 150k developers!
@solid pollen 😉
solid pollen
!role Helpers
royal lakeBOT
drifting sage
lol, big delay
solid pollen
lol yes you should update the web now saying we have 150k developers!
Where do we give a number?
brazen ingot
How did owners give helper roles? like if someone is helping from a long time will thy get?
solid pollen
A staff member can nominate users, and after some time we put the user into a vote, and we need at least 12 mods voting up and no one voting down
brazen ingot
https://pythondiscord.com/ see the first look of this web
mellow spire
But I’m using the web portal and Discord is really confused by that
yeah that happens to me, discord acts weird on ipads
you can't really right click
solid pollen
Oh the 100k banner
brazen ingot
A staff member can nominate users, and after some time we put the user into a vo...
Did you voted ever?
solid pollen
Well, that’s a special event that we hosted
solid pollen
Did you voted ever?
Yeah, at every vote
brazen ingot
Oh cool 😄
mellow spire
even i voted at every vote
brazen ingot
even i voted at every vote
Where does votes take place>
mellow spire
secret channels
brazen ingot
oh cool how can you vote then?
mellow spire
🤷
brazen ingot
even i voted at every vote
what's this then ?
mellow spire
||every vote differs from person to person||
brazen ingot
Oh lol
solid pollen
Hello @grim stirrup, please don’t send random memes on the server
hidden pebble
New server icon.
brazen ingot
New server icon.
aha yes
tiny raven
viral parrot
sorry what?
mellow spire
sorry what?
the ot name
sand inlet
fun fact: in javascript, NaN ("not a number") actually isn't a number
but it also isn't not a number
and actually it is a number
graceful basin
the first one is weird, but the latter two also hold in python
twin charm
whaa?
sand inlet
if you do this instead then it is not a number
and it's a number
but actually it isn't not a number
and actually it's an object
edgy crest
graceful basin
yes
that is how JS works
you would probably see something similar with javas Float, though its type would be Float
edgy crest
sand inlet
javascript is weird
karmic atlas
I used to think java and javascript were related to one another
mellow spire
<:beesittsilly:739166885396086884>
You got nitro back nice, no more using images :D
last mantle
Too many bees
edgy crest
they are cute
mild abyss
javascript is weird
i agree
regal condor
if the admins are salmons, what are the mods?
topaz aurora
if the admins are salmons, what are the mods?
Goldfish
There's another off-topic name for that actually
twin charm
what are the helpers then
topaz aurora
I forgot
edgy crest
seaweed
vapid nymph
@topaz aurora do you use lastpass?
topaz aurora
I got locked out immediately after registering so no
I do use Bitwarden though
Plus, I don't like LastPass's aggressive advertising campaigns
vapid nymph
you haven't heard the news then
topaz aurora
Much like I don't like NordVPN
topaz aurora
you haven't heard the news then
News of?
vapid nymph
News of?
lastpass locking you to one device type if you don't pay them starting march 16th
topaz aurora
Looks like I made the good choice ¯_(ツ)_/¯
topaz aurora
Plus, I don't like LastPass's aggressive advertising campaigns
Heh
mild abyss
lastpass is desperate lol
vapid nymph
thankfully bitwarden makes it easy to switch
vapid nymph
lastpass is desperate lol
ironically everyone I know has moved to bitwarden, with a few that went to keepass
I'm on bitwarden now lmao
topaz aurora
I'm actually considering self-hosting my own Bitwarden instance once I get a powerful-enough server computer
or a VPS I can use
wanton nexus
I am forced into the desire to eat the admins now.
vapid nymph
and just from being on mobile for a little bit, its nicer than lastpass already
wanton nexus
There's nothing I like more than raw salmon.
vapid nymph
I'm actually considering self-hosting my own Bitwarden instance once I get a pow...
why not keepass
topaz aurora
I could, yeah
wanton nexus
I am, after all, a cat.
sand inlet
I am forced into the desire to eat the admins now.
i could give you honey instead 
topaz aurora
I've had this hypothesis before that most staff members likes cats
topaz aurora
I've yet to be proven wrong
vapid nymph
I've had this hypothesis before that most staff members likes cats
meow
twin charm
I've had this hypothesis before that most staff members likes cats
same ||but I am not a staff member||
twin charm
wtf
mild abyss
cause she does not like cats
twin charm
edgy crest
i liked cats until i smelled their pee
quick ledge
i could give you honey instead <:beecloseloaf:722407581875961856>
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brazen ingot
vivek it seems you're Indian?
quick ledge
yes I am :D
brazen ingot
Oh 😄
twin charm
obvi
quick ledge
my username lmao
twin charm
it was vivek gurkan and now its just 'vivek'
twin charm
how can you say?
idk it was my gut feeling, I got visited by god in my dreams and he told me the location of @quick ledge in my dreams and now I know