ot1-perplexing-regexing

[uneven pine]

Pycharm is very slow and heavy

Annoyingly slow on my system for some reason

Meanwhile others with much lower spec systems have no issues

[acoustic moss]

plugins might be slowing it down

if you have any

[long topaz]

Vscode is better than pycharm

Bcoz it is lightweight and fast

[inner lagoon]

ok!

[lone cradle]

vscode ofc obvi

[inland wolf]

same

[lone cradle]

idk which simpleton uses pycharm

pretty slow and wastes ram

also UI/UX is pretty bad

[inner lagoon]

btw does vscode have any extension for somthing like teletype?

[lone cradle]

vscode has extensions for everything. just look in extensions section

[inner lagoon]

ok!

[edgy crest]

neovim-

[inner lagoon]

hmm

[lone cradle]

but he was asking for vscode right

[inner lagoon]

ye

[lone cradle]

irrelevant

[edgy crest]

whats the harm in getting something even better

[inner lagoon]

lol

[lone cradle]

nothing, just saying dude

[edgy crest]

dont use neovim though, if you dont like working with the keyboard and dont like customizing your terminal

[inner lagoon]

i have a seperate terminal application i dont use the command promt gui

llol

[lone cradle]

what is the "separate terminal application"?

git?

[inner lagoon]

no

[lone cradle]

then>

[inner lagoon]

its like..

[edgy crest]

windows terminal?

or powershell?

[inner lagoon]

Windows terminal

[edgy crest]

ye its better

[lone cradle]

cmd?

[edgy crest]

still not as good as kitty

[edgy crest]

@lone cradle no its a seperate terminal emulator

[lone cradle]

oh this is the new update. tabs...

[inner lagoon]

no

[lone cradle]

i gotta google it

[edgy crest]

sure do

[inner lagoon]

its a differant application

[lone cradle]

old update didnt have tabs

[lone cradle]

oh

how to download

I need tabs for my terminal

[lone cradle]

oh "windows terminal"

[inner lagoon]

go in windows store and search win terminal

[inner lagoon]

yes!

[lone cradle]

you gotta goto store?

[edgy crest]

how else would you download it

[inner lagoon]

yea but you can download it from google too

[lone cradle]

cause store isnt opening for me, its been broken since 2017

[inner lagoon]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/windows-terminal/9n0dx20hk701

[edgy crest]

then download from your browser

[inner lagoon]

wait you can get it frm github too

[lone cradle]

I was asking whether there was a separate place to download instead of the store

[inner lagoon]

https://github.com/microsoft/terminal

here

[lone cradle]

i can do git clone

[edgy crest]

yes, the internet

[inner lagoon]

lol

[lone cradle]

and it'll work?

[inner lagoon]

idk

[edgy crest]

dude not tryna be rude but you will get all the instructions when you go to the website

[lone cradle]

from which websitee

[wheat lynx]

It has installation instructions on the github page

[lone cradle]

ok thankyou

thanks wookie

[inner lagoon]

git hub

https://github.com/microsoft/terminal

here

[wheat lynx]

you should probably fix microsoft store though...

[lone cradle]

got it 🔥

[inner lagoon]

👍

[lone cradle]

yea, it wont

[inner lagoon]

?

[lone cradle]

fix

mine is broken

[inner lagoon]

hmm

same

[lone cradle]

doesnt open "problem opening store, contact administrator or reinstall"

[inner lagoon]

ohk

[lone cradle]

oh really? hmm

windows sucks

[inner lagoon]

mine opens but its glitchy

[graceful basin]

did you try reinstalling?

[inner lagoon]

lol but then... i like windows for some reason. I mean like im not a windows fanboy

[wheat lynx]

You could try going search -> apps and features -> search for microsoft store -> advanced options -> reset

[lone cradle]

my pc doenst have that option in settings

[inner lagoon]

what version of windows are you in?

[lone cradle]

I checked stackoverflow 2 years ago or something for fixing it. every option didnt work. after that I didnt care anymore cause windows is gonna break again

[wheat lynx]

are you on windows 10?

[lone cradle]

[Version 10.0.10586]

yes 10

[inner lagoon]

no

[lone cradle]

hmm?

[inner lagoon]

like windows 1903 or 20h2 or what?

[lone cradle]

how to find that out

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10586]
(c) 2015 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\user>

is in the terminal

[inner lagoon]

type 'winver' in ur windows search

and then press enetrt

enter*

[inner lagoon]

yup

oh

[edgy crest]

update bro

[lone cradle]

I cant

[edgy crest]

why?

[lone cradle]

its 6gb update and only 700mb left in c drive

total 28gb

[edgy crest]

uh

[graceful basin]

free up space

[edgy crest]

yeah

[graceful basin]

if you are that space strained, it would be a good usecase for linux tbh

[lone cradle]

yeah I've been thinking about switching

[edgy crest]

[inner lagoon]

hmm moe ur stuff to other drives!

move*

[lone cradle]

or live booting from usb

[lone cradle]

bro lemme tell you one thing

[inner lagoon]

wot?

[graceful basin]

live booting is not a great solution

[lone cradle]

I have vscode, git, c++, python installed in usb

[inner lagoon]

BRUH

[lone cradle]

I use the above from usb, c drive is untouched

[solid pollen]

Net booting is the future

[inner lagoon]

ohk

[solid pollen]

(/s)

[lone cradle]

its slow or something right?

[inner lagoon]

lol

[graceful basin]

how large is your C drive?

[lone cradle]

28gb total

[graceful basin]

oh

[edgy crest]

what

[solid pollen]

That’s...

problematic

[lone cradle]

when windows is already installed so 14gb left

[inner lagoon]

then upgarde you c drive!

[solid pollen]

Tbh you should buy a new drive, yeah

[lone cradle]

and my father download microsoft word and other stuff and now 2gb left

[inner lagoon]

you should atleast have 100 gb c drive or somthin i read somewhere

[lone cradle]

then after 1 year, now 700mb left,

[edgy crest]

even 7 year old laptops had 450 gb hard drives though

[solid pollen]

128Gb HDDs are really cheap

[inner lagoon]

move thos softwares to other drives

[graceful basin]

although I hate telling people to buy more things, get you a cheap HDD

[inner lagoon]

yes

[solid pollen]

You need at least 128Gb

[lone cradle]

no, my father is strict

[inner lagoon]

oh

same : (

ik that feeling

[lone cradle]

he wont lemme experiment

or mess with his word, excel, powerpoint etc

[inland wolf]

did u try running disk cleanup?

[solid pollen]

You call installing to another drive experimenting?

[lone cradle]

yeah

[lone cradle]

its only showing 2mb left

[inland wolf]

and did u remove old updates?

[lone cradle]

2mb to be cleared

[lone cradle]

yes I watched many yt tutorials and understood that no old updates are there

[inland wolf]

did u click this?

[inner lagoon]

ask ur father to upgrade ur drive and tell him drive will be over full and computer wil become SUPER slo

[inland wolf]

i see

[lone cradle]

yeah bro, its 2mb at most

[inland wolf]

damn

do u know whats taking up space?

[inner lagoon]

if he dosent upgrade

[inland wolf]

also whats ur drive's capacity?

[lone cradle]

microsoft stuff

[lone cradle]

28gb

[inland wolf]

bruh wtf

thats not ok

[inner lagoon]

ik

[inland wolf]

windows prolly takes 80% of that

[graceful basin]

30 USD for a cheap 100GB+ drive

[lone cradle]

suprisingly only half

[inner lagoon]

these days windows updates are like minimum 40 gb

[lone cradle]

iirc

[inner lagoon]

ask ur father to upgrade ur drive and tell him drive will be over full and computer wil become SUPER slo

[lone cradle]

ok bro

[solid pollen]

I mean

[inland wolf]

then delete microsoft office and shit

and then update

then install it again

[lone cradle]

I know Ima get new laptop in 11th grade

[inland wolf]

nice

[graceful basin]

I am surprised it is even working tbh

[inland wolf]

same

is it 32bit?

[lone cradle]

bruv my father gonna scold

[lone cradle]

64

[inland wolf]

its for the greater good

[solid pollen]

My father had a 28gb drive at his work

[inland wolf]

u need to make ur dad understand

bruh

[lone cradle]

I actually have an emotional attachment with this pc

[edgy crest]

yeah...

[inland wolf]

ur literally squeezing windows lol

[solid pollen]

But they used a large NAT so why not

[lone cradle]

hmm

[inland wolf]

makes sense

[inner lagoon]

tell him computer will become SUPER SLO if he dosent upgrage cus all windows stuff is in c drove and

[lone cradle]

lol

[inner lagoon]

drive*

[inner lagoon]

im serious

[lone cradle]

my usb uses more space than c drive

[inner lagoon]

it has hppeened to me too

[inner lagoon]

lol

[lone cradle]

7gb usb plugged

500mb left

[inner lagoon]

bruh

[inland wolf]

tf

[inner lagoon]

i also want that type of usb

[lone cradle]

I store everything in the usb, I do have spare one

[inner lagoon]

move some things to usb

[acoustic moss]

[lone cradle]

my mother's, usb I think she wil allow me to use it if I transfer that usb contents to hard drive

[acoustic moss]

mothers
hmmMM

[lone cradle]

forgot apostrophy

[lone cradle]

I'm crying

[solid pollen]

I should take a screenshot of my 8 drives one of these days

[inner lagoon]

always store things in e or f drive

[solid pollen]

Well, I need to actually plug all of them in

[inner lagoon]

never store stuff in c drive

[acoustic moss]

suffering from success

[lone cradle]

I have 1tb hard drive and 500gb hard drive

[inland wolf]

i try

but

[inner lagoon]

ye

[inland wolf]

visual studio says no ❤️

[solid pollen]

I had to buy some cable extensions in order to use them haha

[lone cradle]

but separate one if you know what I mean

[graceful basin]

I just have one drive

[inland wolf]

naisu

[graceful basin]

the second drive is still the same drive

[inner lagoon]

; ( sad

[lone cradle]

😢

[acoustic moss]

why does the second drive even exist

[graceful basin]

it's just the partition shared between win and linux

[inner lagoon]

but thats A BIG DRIVE ngl lol

[inner lagoon]

oh

[lone cradle]

wait Ima try disk clean up again and see how much it clears

[inner lagoon]

k

[inland wolf]

clear system files too

[lone cradle]

right now 687mb

[lone cradle]

yeah that option i will select

[inland wolf]

yes

and make sure to select all the categories

[inner lagoon]

try to clear older updates

[inland wolf]

unless its ur downloads folder

[lone cradle]

why is it 687 it was 721mb when I opened pc

[inner lagoon]

will it change anything?

[lone cradle]

downloads folder is empty bro

[inner lagoon]

u download somthin?

[inland wolf]

damn

[lone cradle]

no, its changing

[wheat lynx]

If it's a 6gb update I think you're going to struggle to find space

[lone cradle]

after closing programs and opening

[inland wolf]

u could reinstall windows from a usb right?

[lone cradle]

i think its temporrary files

[inland wolf]

that will get all the new updates?

[solid pollen]

Yikes, does it actually work fairly well?

[inner lagoon]

you see i also had the same proble i did a full system reset and then usb botted stuff and installed the lates version

[lone cradle]

it has microsoft office that my father paid for, if I reinstall, it will be gone

[inner lagoon]

booted*

[inland wolf]

is it not connected to a microsoft account?

[inner lagoon]

move it to some other drive

[inland wolf]

if it is u can just sign in again right?

[solid pollen]

I tried to share some ntfs or extfat partitions, it was a mess

[lone cradle]

guys in disk cleanup can I select that system error memory dump file

[inner lagoon]

wot?

is dat?

[lone cradle]

its 1.7gb

[edgy crest]

i find a single 490 gb enough because i dont download movies and stuff

[lone cradle]

system error memory dump file

[inner lagoon]

same

[lone cradle]

@inland wolf

[inland wolf]

yes

u can select all of it

[lone cradle]

woah

then I will have many free space

[inland wolf]

the reason it allows you is because its fine to delete

[inner lagoon]

that theme looks cool what theme is it?

[inland wolf]

no u still need 6gb right?

[graceful basin]

@solid pollen ye, it works fine. It is just FAT though

[edgy crest]

material ocean

[inner lagoon]

rainmeter skin?

[solid pollen]

Uh cool

[edgy crest]

no i am on linux

[inner lagoon]

oh

[lone cradle]

oh wow, taking a lot of time to delete

oh wait nvm

[acoustic moss]

windows prevents you from deleting important system files anyway I think

[lone cradle]

I think my hard drive will have 1.5gb

[acoustic moss]

occupied or available

[edgy crest]

heres how the full theme looks like

[inner lagoon]

damn

noice!

[inner lagoon]

how much space now then?

[lone cradle]

wait Ima send screenshot

[inner lagoon]

k

[lone cradle]

wait why cant I ttake screnshot

[inner lagoon]

press win+shift+s

and then drag and take

or if that dosent work then press win+prtscrn

[lone cradle]

ok I took screenshot using python

how to cropt

@inner lagoon

oh wait nvm

[inner lagoon]

of

oh*

[lone cradle]

I got 400mb extra space!!
it was 700mb total now its 1.17

2nd drive is usb

[inner lagoon]

oh

[inner lagoon]

yay

[inner lagoon]

wot

[lone cradle]

PIL library

from PIL import ImageGrab
import time
time.sleep(5)
im = ImageGrab.grab()
im.save("C:/Users/user/Documents/sendthis.jpg")

[inner lagoon]

hey btw where do you save ur code and stuff

[lone cradle]

usb

there is a 'programming projects/python programs' folder

in usb

[lone cradle]

@inland wolf thanks bruv I got 400mb extra

can I update 6gb with this

because update files will replace old (current) files right

[inland wolf]

hopefully

[rough sapphire]

ok

[lone cradle]

hm?

!python

hello

[inland wolf]

nice

[pliant crystal]

Yo guys how do i learn algorithms and data structures?

do you know good resources?

thanks

as a high school noob, do i need to know like hard maths?

ooh okay thanks alot man i owe you an education lol

[inland wolf]

nice

[edgy crest]

wait, if binary search is this, then that means quick sort is based on binary search?

[solid pollen]

I think so

[edgy crest]

yeah

hmm, i thought it would be easy to calculate the time comp for recursive solutions like with iterative but recursive solutions can have different outputs 🤔

oh we have formulas for it

[graceful basin]

quick sort isn't really based on binary search, is it? I mean, both halve the list every iteration, but that is about where the similarities end

[rich moon]

lmao i remember a while back

maybe like 2 week ago or sth

where someone was so persistant in trying to tell me that binary search is sorting algorithm

[edgy crest]

like binary search is used on sorted arrays

[kindred sorrel]

Quicksort doesn't have the list every iteration

[edgy crest]

yeah i just meant the divide and conquer part ig

[kindred sorrel]

*halve

Yeah it's divide and conquer

I really like the proof of quick sort ngl

It's pretty neat

[surreal otter]

what do you do when you have absolutely no idea what's wrong?

[plucky ridge]

Weep deeply

[surreal otter]

I'm approaching the throw in the towel stage

might go for another refactor instead

then quit

[acoustic moss]

sad

[inner lagoon]

stack overflow/ yt / github. If that dosent work then, ask people here or in other server if dont get answer here.

[mild abyss]

🥺🥺🥺

[edgy crest]

that rhymes

[clear plume]

Shit man that hit a little too close to home

[acoustic moss]

triple ping 👀

[edgy crest]

i did not ping :p

[clear plume]

Yeah sorry hemlock

[edgy crest]

replies have a ping toggle option

[acoustic moss]

we have a new admin

[acoustic moss]

ik

[clear plume]

Who?

[acoustic moss]

Scaleios

[clear plume]

Is he a new one?

[acoustic moss]

I'm 90% sure he wasn't red before

[clear plume]

Yeah he probably is new

[midnight dirge]

If you squint your eyes real hard then I may be red as well

[uneven pine]

Nope still brown

[midnight dirge]

Brown is darker red so better

[quick ledge]

It's Peachy™️

[deep terrace]

What happens if a CSV element has a comma in it?

[ornate nymph]

who would do something silly like that

[deep terrace]

It's a CSV containing video game titles. Some video game titles have commas in them.

[ornate nymph]

ah

[deep terrace]

Such as Warhammer 40,000: Space Wolf

They put quotes around it but idk if that does anything.

[ornate nymph]

well I guess it depends if the title is quoted or not

If it does have quotes then it should be treated as a normal value and the comma shouldn't change the CSV columns

[deep terrace]

Okay.

What about a title with quotes in it?

"Haunted Dungeons ""Hyakki Castle""",0,...

Is this valid?

[ornate nymph]

Hmm, I think it should be. If you printed the value it would probably show as Haunted Dungeons "Hyakki Castle"

[deep terrace]

Printed they show like this

Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin "Divine Edition"
Kandagawa Jet Girls "Racing Hearts Edition"
Ys: Memories of Celceta "Timeless Adventurer Edition"
Haunted Dungeons "Hyakki Castle"

[ornate nymph]

Yeah, that's what I figured. Is that incorrect?

[deep terrace]

I'm just trying to figure out why a certain title isn't printing. The title is "Warhammer 40,000: Mechanicus" and when I run

esrb_data = pd.read_csv("Video_games_esrb_rating.csv")
titles = esrb_data["title"]

for title in titles:
    if "," in title:
        print(title)

it doesn't show that title.
It shows

Soccer, Tactics & Glory
Penn & Teller VR: Frankly Unfair, Unkind, Unnecessary, & Underhanded
Penn & Teller VR: F U, U, U, & U
Warhammer 40,000: Space Wolf
Guns, Gore and Cannoli 2
WARHAMMER 40,000 : DEATHWATCH
Walden, a game
Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr
Slice, Dice & Rice

So I didn't know if it was a CSV thing or something else.

Here is the dataset. Perhaps someone can find something in it.
https://www.kaggle.com/imohtn/video-games-rating-by-esrb

Explicitly specifying the separator didn't help.

esrb_data = pd.read_csv("Video_games_esrb_rating.csv", sep=",")

[ornate nymph]

So your problem is that Warhammer 40,000: Mechanicus doesn't appear?

[deep terrace]

Yes.

I was going to open a help channel since this is getting into Python territory.

[ornate nymph]

thats odd

if you do ping me. I'm going to grab the csv and see what happens

[deep terrace]

Okay.

[ornate nymph]

blah, hang on... have to sign up

[quick ledge]

you could write the entrys with QUOTE_MINIMAL or something

[twilit shore]

[solid pollen]

Ah yes, discord doesn’t like scrolling to the bottom of the list haha

[twilit shore]

Interesting

[oak tangle]

I guess this offtopic name has no real meaning now anymore

#checkpoint is no more

[solid pollen]

It is about the friends we made along the way!

[twilit shore]

What was #checkpoint

[oak tangle]

It was once the name of the verification channel we used to have

When people joined the community, they had to accept our rules by typing !accept in a channel

It's now replaced by Discord's native new member gate feature

[twilit shore]

Oh

[oak tangle]

People stuck in checkpoint were those who joined the community, but never got past the checkpoint channel

They were unable to see most of the channels in the community

[twilit shore]

When was it removed

[acoustic moss]

oh I'm "stuck in checkpoint" in quite a few servers

owing to the fact that I don't have a phone

[oak tangle]

It has a few downsides for those communities, such as for "member retention" stats. If those go too low, you'll things like a Discord Partnership

[twilit shore]

lol I’m only in 2 public discord servers the rest are my friends

[edgy crest]

i am in a ton because of emojis lol

[kindred sorrel]

I'm in a ton because i dunno why

[edgy crest]

i literally have a trash folder, it has like 19 of them

[kindred sorrel]

lmfao

[acoustic moss]

lol

[mellow spire]

mine is a shhort list

[edgy crest]

39

[wheat lynx]

I think i'm in... 55... but this is the only one I ever look at lol

[edgy crest]

i have them properly organized

[wheat lynx]

Nice. I really don't have them organised lol

well I have the ones I can see organised and then I just never go past there lol

[edgy crest]

lol

150

[wheat lynx]

I left a ton of servers and sorted it out

I'm quite happy with that

[edgy crest]

[wheat lynx]

i'm now in only 24 servers

it feels so empty

[solid pollen]

I’m in 63 servers

could be worst

[edgy crest]

make it 69

then your message count, server count would be 69

[solid pollen]

Also I’m afraid I missed my 69,420th message

Actually, I may have a second chance

[mellow spire]

i leaft 7 servers before i put that picture

oh shit ping

[wheat lynx]

I don't mind pings lol, as a mod I get quite a lot so i'm sort of immune to them

as long as they're not spammy pings for no reason or anything...

[mellow spire]

the most messages i have is this server which is 11k lol

[acoustic moss]

same

[mellow spire]

second is 7k, third is 5k, fourth is 2k, and all others are less then 500

[twin charm]

690,420??

[simple sand]

Mine is pretty organized.
The first folder are the servers that i enjoy being in.
The second one are the programming related servers, third one is for testing stuff, fourth one for education related stuff, fitfth one for hardware related stuff, sixth is bots related server, seventh one is cyber security related servers, eighth one is anime related servers and the last 2 are random servers.

[solid pollen]

Yeah, no haha

[narrow pecan]

Same a while ago. Though the server count just seems to grow

[twin charm]

hmm? then

696,420

[solid pollen]

Am I the only one with my most active servers on the bottom?

[simple sand]

yes

[narrow pecan]

Most of them are ones that I don’t use too much

[twin charm]

isnt server ordering based on recent joined ones

[acoustic moss]

are you saying you don't enjoy being in programming servers

[solid pollen]

I’m pretty sure that’s not the intended way, but it made sense back then

[narrow pecan]

I do the exact opposite

[wheat lynx]

most active at the bottom is weird...

[acoustic moss]

yes

[simple sand]

No, but i am saying i prefer those servers out of the other ones.
The first 2 are the ones that i am most active and like the most.

[solid pollen]

Now I got used to it

[mellow spire]

this is mine, self-understandable

[solid pollen]

I wouldn’t see myself with pydis at the top

[mellow spire]

is testing server

[simple sand]

I am only active in 3 servers.
This one
One Piece
My server

[lone cradle]

you are in engineer man server!!

[mellow spire]

yep

a hero there

[lone cradle]

that guy is 😎

[mellow spire]

indeed

[surreal otter]

I think I'm near the 100 channel limit

[mellow spire]

we are making a new community project there

[surreal otter]

most of which I never vist

[mellow spire]

"Math Arena"

[lone cradle]

you know he has 8 monitor

[surreal otter]

mostly I'm here, sometimes a few others. Blender is always a good one to watch people make things

[mellow spire]

yep

lemme share the pic

one min

[lone cradle]

he flexxs pics

his setup has 8 monitor, shit ton of ram

[acoustic moss]

r/unity3d gets some absolutely insane stuff sometimes

[edgy crest]

[surreal otter]

don't share a pic, share a full res screenshot

[mellow spire]

woah

[acoustic moss]

images go brrr

[mellow spire]

in how many are u active?

[edgy crest]

i think i will go insane on that layout

thats just too much from comfort for me

[surreal otter]

get a better foot rest

[edgy crest]

tbh just 2 is enough

[solid pollen]

Between 3 and 5, depends on the day lol

[edgy crest]

no like

[acoustic moss]

1 is enough for me

[edgy crest]

my eyes

[surreal otter]

that's a good opinion

but an opinion nonetheless 🙂

[mellow spire]

am hardly on 3

[edgy crest]

yeah even one is enough

[mellow spire]

i have 2 rn

one laptop, one screen

[surreal otter]

not really 'honesty' as much as 'in my opinion, I don't see a use for more than 2'

[edgy crest]

i will go cross eyed with that many

[surreal otter]

one is absolutely not enough for a lot of people

I can definitively say when I was working on spreadsheets all day, one monitor would absolutely crush my productivity

[acoustic moss]

alt tab ftw

[surreal otter]

any time I had to work on my laptop? I'd do half as much

well, less, because no num pad 😱

[edgy crest]

eh

i am not used to numpads

as i just use a laptop

and my typing speed will decrease in half if i use a keyboard with numpads

[surreal otter]

I imagine you don't work with almost exclusively numbers

[lone cradle]

haha

[surreal otter]

I don't even understand how

as you can just ignore the right half of the keyboard

[edgy crest]

because my fingers are used to this layout

i dont touch type, so i navigate through muscle memory

[surreal otter]

I'm used to my car, but hand me the keys to a mercedes and I'll gladly drive it

[mellow spire]

no, vinam i had the same issue, when i came to mechanical, it increased

[surreal otter]

I feel the same about keyboards

[edgy crest]

that does not relate

[surreal otter]

It does

muscle memory

[edgy crest]

not for me i dont drive

[surreal otter]

the throttle and brakes are different

[mellow spire]

i used laptop first

[surreal otter]

Oh, a bicycle

[mellow spire]

but then when i shifted, it got faster

[surreal otter]

or xbox vs PS controller

[acoustic moss]

slowmode would help

[edgy crest]

i wonder if i should order a keyboard without numpads

i dont see a point though

[uneven pine]

There's no point unless you're tight on space

Numpads let you input long series of numbers way faster

And if you're like me and play games that need lots of buttons

Or simulators

[surreal otter]

If I ever need to use more than like 3 numbers I'll generally go to the numpad

significantly faster

and less mistake prone, as you barely move your hand

[uneven pine]

I regularly have to punch credit card numbers and the likes in

So I'm very proficient in numpad use

[surreal otter]

Those tears of pain have turned to joy

Though I am out of my league, it is a fun trip

[inland wolf]

same

[plucky ridge]

Niiiiiiiiiiice

[obsidian pollen]

these top notch OT names

lemon experience

joe graphs

[rough sapphire]

@surreal otter is that the google challenge?

[rancid haven]

huh? i didn't notice the off-topic channels' names are changing. are they picked randomly or what?

[honest pawn]

I heard that the ot names picked randomly, and the people at the top add the names

@rancid haven

[acoustic moss]

yep, they are changed every day

randomly picked from a list of names

[rancid haven]

can i submit a name

where can i submit a name

[acoustic moss]

only staff members can add I think

[wheat lynx]

Yeah, mods+ can add them, but you can suggest one here https://github.com/python-discord/meta/discussions/85

Generally I think the best ones are ones that come up randomly in conversations though haha

[honest pawn]

Truer words have not been spoken.

[surreal otter]

it is

[winter patio]

Anyone registered in the Quora Code challenge?

[kindred sorrel]

What's the Google challenge?

[uncut light]

https://twitter.com/equinoxiiitl/status/1355163611405053956?s=19

Equinox (@equinoxiiitl)

We are delighted to introduce Xperienza, an event organised by our annual techfest Equinox '21: A Virtual Odyssey, a resounding event that will provide an elegant platform where you will be sharing your funny enthralling stories and exciting experiences that you witnessed in
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Twitter · Jan 29, 2021, 2:39 PM

https://twitter.com/equinoxiiitl/status/1355163611405053956?s=19

Equinox (@equinoxiiitl)

We are delighted to introduce Xperienza, an event organised by our annual techfest Equinox '21: A Virtual Odyssey, a resounding event that will provide an elegant platform where you will be sharing your funny enthralling stories and exciting experiences that you witnessed in
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Twitter · Jan 29, 2021, 2:39 PM

[simple sand]

ughh, i have so much homework

[twin charm]

akarys why is your colour

[edgy crest]

he became italian

[twin charm]

haa

he went offline

[narrow pecan]

That's the lead role. It was positioned above Mods earlier today. Check out #changelog for more info

[twin charm]

hmm

and mod mail is above owner haa

[narrow pecan]

That'll be something to get used to hahah

[twin charm]

haha

joe is not at the top of the line anymoreee

[nocturne fox]

bedtime = 5

asyncio.sleep(bedtime*120)
print('CAKAW ITS BEDTIME IDIOT')

[inland wolf]

bruh

[twin charm]

hhaa

[inland wolf]

what if i just say hi to @polar knoll

[twin charm]

dont

[inland wolf]

k

[twin charm]

what if I dm python bot? will mods see message?

[narrow pecan]

Sure thing

[twin charm]

oh damn

oops

thats a pretty unnecessary feature you know

[acoustic moss]

lol

tf did you dm the bot

[twin charm]

I did, but not today

like many weeks ago

but didnt get response

the fact that they see it.... XD

[tall ermine]

lol i keep the bots as my notes

[solid pollen]

We can see everything now

If there's anything you'd like me to delete though, feel free to hit me up in DMs

[edgy crest]

from baguette to pizzas?

:((

broccoli pizzas

[solid pollen]

Nah

Look at my status

[edgy crest]

tch tch, dont lie

[solid pollen]

Lol

[simple sand]

frappe are the best!!!

[inner lagoon]

rateMySetup

[simple sand]

isn't that just the plain old vsc setup?

[tall ermine]

just different theme

[edgy crest]

looks like material default to me

i am bacc to gruvbox

[tall ermine]

it's a little green-ish (swear there was a option on vs)

or it is just my monitor

[edgy crest]

what is?

[tall ermine]

the color

[edgy crest]

yeah material default looks like that

[tall ermine]

i just checked mine

nah it's not the normal dark theme

[edgy crest]

o

[twin charm]

ahhahahhahahaa akarys you are a legend

lemme reply

[narrow pecan]

Are you accepting bribes?

[acoustic moss]

👀

[twin charm]

what to delete @solid pollen ?

akarys is online

[solid pollen]

lol

For real though, if you sent any private information to the bot, we usually try to delete them if we saw them, but something might have slipped past it

[twin charm]

hmmm

[mental bison]

I need help I forgot the name of a game that I used to really like

it has to do with being on this planet and your a robot and you have to destroy other robots to get parts to make a bigger robot

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @white folio until 2021-02-06 16:30 (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: duplicates rule: sent 4 duplicated messages in 10s).

[acoustic moss]

lol rekt

[honest pawn]

Uh oh

[mellow spire]

which vscode presence do u guys use?

[acoustic moss]

what's a vscode presence

[mellow spire]

vscode discord presence extension

[acoustic moss]

none, then

[cedar aurora]

lmao wtf is that

[simple sand]

no matter which presence ext i use it don't work for me
😦

[barren locust]

hi

[brazen estuary]

How lucky people are who are learning programming. And English is the language of their country.

The entire Internet is subordinate to them

@rigid vale
Didn't expect to see the Cyrillic alphabet in the English server.

[surreal otter]

It definitely doesn't hurt

though we are complacent and often not bilingual as a result

[rugged echo]

off topic word of the day: frypurism, noun
def: the ideology that fries should be eaten without any condiments, and that if everyone in the world ate fries this way the world's problems will be miraculously solved and society would become perfect

[cedar aurora]

brain damage

[acoustic moss]

ot name is brilliant

[eternal wing]

!otn a attack-of-the-git-clones

[royal lake]

:ok_hand: Added attack-of-the-git-clones to the names list.

[quick ledge]

ohh NICE

[eternal wing]

we need all the starwars references

[acoustic moss]

I will do what I must

How many do we already have?

in the otns

[eternal wing]

Off, that would be hard to figure out.

[acoustic moss]

I've been looking forward to this

[inland wolf]

lmao

[edgy crest]

its xith's revenge on hemlock's tiny roasts

[rough sapphire]

exception-empire

[remote socket]

:)

[rough sapphire]

"Production quality"

[last mantle]

:(

[last mantle]

thats how games are developed

devs dont give a shit about warnings

[gritty zinc]

hopefully, not all devs

[edgy crest]

yeah

[acoustic moss]

warnings more like suggestions

[edgy crest]

new rice

[mellow spire]

i wanna rice my ubuntu, but can't find some good ones and am too lazy to do it myself 😛

[edgy crest]

you can only get i3 on ubuntu iirc

not i3-gaps, but not sure

[twin charm]

xithrius when are you streaming again

[narrow pecan]

Maybe ping him if you want him to see it hahah

[twin charm]

nobodys sends messages here anyway(ot0 most popular) , hope he stumbles opon here and sees this message lol

[obsidian basalt]

hello

I now could help me with this: zsh: parse error near `\ n '

[twin charm]

but now that Im sending messages here, the initial message is going up

frick

[remote socket]

I don't have a schedule, I just stream when I have energy for it/actually have time

[twin charm]

hmmm

[rough sapphire]

he topic came up earlier @young shoal @sage bramble
This might be as close as you can get to a constant value. You could just modify x._value since it not private

class Constant:
    def __init__(self, value=0):
        self._value = value

    @property
    def value(self):
        return self._value

    @value.setter
    def value(self, new_value):
        raise SyntaxError("cannot modify ConstantType")

x = Constant(5)

print(x.value)

x.value = 6

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Some\Path\test.py", line 19, in <module>
    x.value = 6
  File "C:\Some\Path\test.py", line 12, in value
    raise SyntaxError("cannot modify ConstantType")
SyntaxError: cannot modify ConstantType

Sorry if you done with the topic but I just wanted to find it out 😄

[young shoal]

you could modify __setattr__ to just prevent access to it

[sage bramble]

I'm not familiar with the oops concepts in python yet

[young shoal]

also, this runs into a thing, if you define "constant" to mean you can't modify any of its attributes, this works. but if you define "constant" to mean can't reassign then this would not work

[sage bramble]

Thanks btw @rough sapphire and @young shoal

[reef loom]

what is a great bot for leveling system

[inland wolf]

x._value = 6 B)

[sage bramble]

Yeah I got that... I meant is there a way without using classes

[sage bramble]

I think it would be more appropriate question for #discord-bots

[sand fractal]

Mmm

[mellow spire]

#jason@devlab:~$ systemd-analyze blame
- 50.578s apt-daily.service
- 23.403s containerd.service
- 14.205s systemd-journal-flush.service
- 14.092s networkd-dispatcher.service
- 12.620s logrotate.service
-  9.077s udisks2.service
-  8.010s accounts-daemon.service
``` suddenly my boot time again went up. How can i reduce it?

how can i reduce it?

[edgy crest]

by installing a lighter distro

boot time depends on the disk iirc

[mellow spire]

i wanna stay on ubuntu

but reduce this

earlier apt-daily.service wasn't there

but when i uninstalled snap, it came up

[edgy crest]

why are you using snap

[mellow spire]

when i uninstalled

[acoustic moss]

why were you using snap

[edgy crest]

do you have any snap packages?

because snap packages slow down your computer a lot

[mellow spire]

nope

[edgy crest]

they need to be mounted as they are compressed images or stuff

[mellow spire]

i used it for inkscape and vscode earlier, but now i installed then through apt

[edgy crest]

and did you uninstall them?

the snap ones

[mellow spire]

yes

i did a purge on snap

[edgy crest]

hmmm i am not sure what could be causing the slowness then

[mellow spire]

i already showed what is cuzing it

i want to fix those

on reboot, without applying any changes

the timer seems to go away

ok much faster now

[edgy crest]

cool

[inner lagoon]

lotta lemons in this server... anyone selling lemonade thene?

[eternal wing]

that would be terrifying

lemon#0001ade

[narrow pecan]

Have you tasted?

[eternal wing]

That can be the next big product we sell. Lemon™️ade

[edgy crest]

lemon-ade

[narrow pecan]

Let’s do it

Either as a PyDis or Gurkult project

I have a feeling that this would be best fit as a Gurkult project, since these are the kind of weird things we do over there ahah

[acoustic moss]

:O

[eternal wing]

gurkade is fine as well, then we won't need to get those expensive rights to use lemon's likeness.

[narrow pecan]

That’s true

Gurkorade

[frozen thorn]

lol looks like Gatorade

Sell Gurkorade drinks made in cucumber juice.

[edgy crest]

[mellow spire]

cucumber juice is not so pleasant

[mellow spire]

lets patner with gatorade to produce gurkorade

[narrow pecan]

Let’s do it

[mellow spire]

and as usual our money source is ... lol

probably no need for money, they gut the money but we chose the name

[frozen thorn]

~~I can be the source ~~

[sand inlet]

@rough sapphire to claim a channel you just send a message in that channel

there isn't a command for it

[rough sapphire]

ok

[sand inlet]

although that only works with available channels, since you can't send messages in dormant channels and occupied channels are already claimed by someone else

[gritty zinc]

https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=nightly&mode=release&edition=2018&gist=30efd0cd4e928250dafcc914c94def05

tiny snippet for interest - measuring the speed of Rust loops

probably any complied loops, really, I doubt compiled languages differ in loop speed much. For constrast, Python is around 4 million loops per second for for i in range: pass

[inland wolf]

im pretty sure rust does something called loop unfolding

or something

where if there's a loop that will loop a fixed number of times, it will just duplicate the code instead of making it loop

for i in 0..3 {
println!("no");
}``` will become
```rust
println!("no");
println!("no");
println!("no");

i think so

[solid pollen]

It is, and by a lot actually

[inland wolf]

cuz ur not jumping back

damn

[solid pollen]

Loops are very costly

[inland wolf]

yea

they tell us to use iterators more

apparently its faster

[gritty zinc]

Yes, that's a normal thing for optimizing compilers to do. I very much doubt, however, that it'd decide to unfold a loop of ten billion iterations.

[inland wolf]

lol

[gritty zinc]

the outer one, sure

[inland wolf]

u never know

well u could just look at the source code but ok

[floral viper]

If it can deduce the number of times a loop happens, if the iterating condition is a constant for example, it can often replace it with just a few instructions

[gritty zinc]

Yup, that's why I'm using black_box to ensure the compiler doesn't reduce the number of loops.

(without it it just throws the empty loop away)

[floral viper]

Ah we are talking rust specifically. I thought we were talking general compilers

[mild abyss]

have u tried learning julia?

i think u will like it but idk

[floral viper]

No, sounds like an interesting language though. I'll add it to my todo list 😄

[mild abyss]

i think u will like it

i am pretty sure

super one hundred percent sure

[floral viper]

Most of my job on high performance languages has been related to writing c/c++ (and sometimes asm) code for accelleration

[mild abyss]

oooh. noice. :3. i do think julia is as capable since it is as fast as C

[twilit shore]

Julia is like a drug

You learn it

Then u try selling it

[mild abyss]

actually she is my gf, she makes fancy stuffs with me, i found her on feb 1

she is binary

[twilit shore]

Oooo

I love binary 😉

[mild abyss]

1010111011

she talks to me with ones and zeros

and she wants me to share her website

https://julialang.org

[twilit shore]

could I make an only fans and call it Julia, but it’s just pictures of Julia code

Business

👀

[mild abyss]

imma make a utube channel for her

👀

[twilit shore]

pog

WAIT

The ot names are pep 8 song lyrics

epic

[floral viper]

Seems like julia got garbage collection though, which is bad for high speed use cases. What garbage collection does is induce a random latency peak in the code that is impossible for the developer to foresee.

Personally I prefer to manage my own memory

[mild abyss]

i see. well i lack the knowledge on such stuff . thanks for sharing.

i see i guess there are those that like to manually manage memory

for specific use cases

[floral viper]

It is something that can bite you in the bum when you work with high performamce computing. That latency peak can cause incredibly annoying bugs that is difficult af to track down

[mild abyss]

oh good morning there

[floral viper]

Scientific computing is when these things matter. It can fuck up timing and most often a scientific simulation is time dependent.

Speaking from experience 😄

[mild abyss]

it is still new after all

[fossil solar]

any suggestions on discord bots that can execute code ?

[twin charm]

felix

by engineer man

[fossil solar]

alright

wait, I cannot invite it to my server?

[twin charm]

wait what

you cant?

I thought its open source 🤔

[fossil solar]

it is

I thought I could just invite it

[eternal wing]

I use compiler it has been good

[fossil solar]

oki, I will check it out

[edgy crest]

[acoustic moss]

hmmmMMM

@bot.command()
async def hmm(ctx, *, args):
  await ctx.send(eval(args))

ez

[graceful basin]

that is a pretty useful command tbh

[acoustic moss]

everybody gangsta till someone evals sudo rm rf

[edgy crest]

not if the host is windows

[graceful basin]

obviously you limit perms

[acoustic moss]

but I'm on windows

[twin charm]

hah

[inland wolf]

u can limit perms on eval?

[acoustic moss]

You can limit perms on the command

[inland wolf]

right

lol

[edgy crest]

you can just have it in your private server with just the bot and yourself

[graceful basin]

we have admin+ !int e

[acoustic moss]

🤔

[inland wolf]

int?

[acoustic moss]

what that do

[graceful basin]

this, except it pipes it into ipython

[inland wolf]

i see

[graceful basin]

it can be used to count the number of gurkans for example

[edgy crest]

so how is it more useful than the good ol !eval?

[graceful basin]

it is not in a jail

[edgy crest]

i meant the command

[graceful basin]

so you can use it to delete msgs

[twin charm]

if I import os and do listdir. will it show files of the host's pc?

[edgy crest]

oh

[inland wolf]

ah ok

[acoustic moss]

there are like 4 or 5, try it out

[twin charm]

eval() in a discord bot i mean

[edgy crest]

basically relating to using the terminal instead of gui

[twin charm]

4 or 5 what?

[acoustic moss]

files

[twin charm]

ohok

[acoustic moss]

there's 7 nvm

it's readonly ofc

lol

[twin charm]

sed

[edgy crest]

no there are 20k not 7

[acoustic moss]

no there's 19.965k not 20k

[edgy crest]

no there's 19,965 not that

[inland wolf]

ok

[twin charm]

ok

[acoustic moss]

ok

[edgy crest]

no u

[acoustic moss]

ok

[twin charm]

ok

[inland wolf]

no

[solid pollen]

I see 23k haha

Also

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807261566041980948/807610801497702430/unknown.png

[twin charm]

staff chat rooms

ahah akarys

I can see only 49,619 lol

staff text channels are pretty active?

[solid pollen]

Yeah

[oak tangle]

never

[twin charm]

pretty contradictory

[inland wolf]

interesting

[solid pollen]

Well, by active we just look at each other and the eyes, and convey our messages through our minds

[twin charm]

😳

[inland wolf]

thats pretty high level bro

[twin charm]

😑

[inland wolf]

so thats how it says that

[acoustic moss]

lol

[inland wolf]

B)

[acoustic moss]

ok

[inland wolf]

yes

now bow

[edgy crest]

[inland wolf]

thx

[acoustic moss]

stop

[inland wolf]

bruh moment

[graceful basin]

!mute @upbeat whale

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @upbeat whale until 2021-02-08 18:37 (59 minutes and 59 seconds).

[inland wolf]

aw man i wanted to see the bot do it

[acoustic moss]

same

[inland wolf]

doesnt it do automatically?

also

whats the average infraction/day?

im curious

[edgy crest]

ask joe for graphs

[inland wolf]

joe i am need of graph

[versed saffron]

graphs?!

[acoustic moss]

graphs.

[solid pollen]

I can give you some graphs

What do you want?

[versed saffron]

all

[inland wolf]

lol

i just need infraction per day graphs

[solid pollen]

Hmm

[inland wolf]

is that possible?

or are u not alowed to disclose it?

[solid pollen]

Give me a minute to screenshot it haha

[versed saffron]

what's superstar?

[graceful basin]

forced nick

[inland wolf]

lol

25 in one day

damn

[acoustic moss]

how many infractions were there the day someone pinged @'everyone

27/8/2020

[solid pollen]

I have no idea how to retrieve that haha

[acoustic moss]

lol k

[solid pollen]

Psssttt @bleak lintel

[bleak lintel]

lol

[inland wolf]

hes doing some crunching guys

[bleak lintel]

not loads

[inland wolf]

damn

[acoustic moss]

yeah

[solid pollen]

Wait, what does your time range looks like? I tried to do that but I miserably failed

[timid halo]

C++ help?

[solid pollen]

Sure

Probably not from me, but ask away

[solid pollen]

Is that a graded homework/exam?

[timid halo]

Yes

Exam

[rain pebble]

Other than invoking rules, oddly enough you can type on a discord yet somehow not have a compiler.
Either way, I will only give part of what g++ gives me, because it actually gives the solution (damn you compilers getting better and better)

a.cpp: In function ‘int mainProg()’:
a.cpp:3:5: error: ‘cout’ was not declared in this scope
     cout >> "Hello World\n!";
     ^~~~

[bleak lintel]

just click time range and pick the two dates lol

[solid pollen]

Hmm

[solid pollen]

!rule 5 I’m afraid we won’t help with an exam

[royal lake]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may break laws, breach terms of services, be considered malicious or inappropriate. Do not help with ongoing exams. Do not provide or request solutions for graded assignments, although general guidance is okay.

[proven furnace]

What’s something evil that I can do in python

Not that evil

[narrow pecan]

That's not a good topic for this server

[rough sapphire]

It's a good topic for another server

[proven furnace]

Nah listen

This is for educational purposes

[narrow pecan]

Still not appropriate

[rough sapphire]

e d u c a t i o n a l p u r p o s e s

[proven furnace]

I assure you I have the best intentions for my victim

Lololololol

[rough sapphire]

POV: @proven furnace teaching his victim

[bleak lintel]

@narrow pecan

[narrow pecan]

Ah, I see

So the token is directly associated with the user account ID as well?

[bleak lintel]

yep

[narrow pecan]

Also, nice visual for it

[bleak lintel]

yeah, it is p nice

[narrow pecan]

That’s pretty cool

[graceful basin]

What purpose does the timestamp serve?

[bleak lintel]

unsure

[narrow pecan]

I assume that it would be helpful as a way to make it unique

Just like user IDs

[bleak lintel]

the HMAC is the unique bit, so it would work with just the UID and HMAC alone

I think it'll be for debugging or something

maybe a security feature for user accounts

[graceful basin]

That does make sense

[rough sapphire]

is uid the bot's uid?