#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 518

lone cradle Jan 30, 2021, 11:01 AM

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I love that meme

round rose Jan 30, 2021, 11:02 AM

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The phrase just sounds unreasonably funny to me

acoustic moss Jan 30, 2021, 11:05 AM

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wack

lone cradle Jan 30, 2021, 3:06 PM

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sup with gamestop now? stonks?

rough sapphire Jan 30, 2021, 3:16 PM

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Some pause of trading in the weekends

lone cradle Jan 30, 2021, 3:22 PM

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wait I just googled, NYSE is closed on saturdays?

solid pollen Jan 30, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Yep

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Give them a timeout haha

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It isn't open on saturday either

lone cradle Jan 30, 2021, 3:28 PM

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haha

low chasm Jan 30, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Lol

lone cradle Jan 30, 2021, 3:29 PM

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hey!

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how was your day so far

low chasm Jan 30, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Good

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Yours?

lone cradle Jan 30, 2021, 3:29 PM

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really noice

low chasm Jan 30, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Alright lol

rough sapphire Jan 30, 2021, 3:31 PM

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solid pollen It isn't open on saturday either

I think you meant Sunday

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But I've seen some people saying they'll buy on Monday

lone cradle Jan 30, 2021, 3:32 PM

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I think he means the gamestop stores across the country are closed

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and not the NYSE

rough sapphire Jan 30, 2021, 3:33 PM

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Hmm

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Maybe both?

lone cradle Jan 30, 2021, 3:35 PM

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yeah both are, but in "It isn't open on saturday EITHER", he meant it for the stores

solid pollen Jan 30, 2021, 3:36 PM

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rough sapphire I think you meant Sunday

ah, yeah lol

narrow pecan Jan 30, 2021, 8:21 PM

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Hey! Thanks, I drew that on my iPad with an Apple Pencil 😄

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If you want to annotate in a similar way and don’t have an iPad or drawing tablet, I’d recommend just using some shapes (like squares) and normal text. That’s a builtin feature on Mac and I assume there would be something similar on Windows

rough sapphire Jan 30, 2021, 9:13 PM

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nice handwriting

narrow pecan Jan 30, 2021, 9:17 PM

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Thanks :)

topaz aurora Jan 31, 2021, 5:05 AM

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First time builds always takes a while

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agile heart Jan 31, 2021, 5:54 AM

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narrow pecan Hey! Thanks, I drew that on my iPad with an Apple Pencil 😄

ah, right. Thanks 🙂

tribal aurora Jan 31, 2021, 6:46 AM

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elo

ruby fox Jan 31, 2021, 6:49 AM

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guys isn't there a app, which can find a computer part's photo to find its specs?

versed saffron Jan 31, 2021, 9:07 AM

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fn main() {
    let f = input("Hey :) >>\n".to_string());
    println!("{}+{}", f, input("hi :)) >>\n".to_string()));
}

fn input(message: String) -> String {
    use std::io::{stdin, stdout, Write};
    let mut s = String::new();
    print!("{}", message);
    let _ = stdout().flush();
    stdin().read_line(&mut s).expect("Idk");
    s
}```
```py
>>> Hey :) >>
input
>>> hi :)) >>
input2
>>> input
>>> +input2

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anyone know why that's happening

simple sand Jan 31, 2021, 9:08 AM

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rust?

versed saffron Jan 31, 2021, 9:08 AM

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i kinda expected it to be on the same line

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ya

simple sand Jan 31, 2021, 9:08 AM

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oh this exists

versed saffron Jan 31, 2021, 9:09 AM

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ah ty

simple sand Jan 31, 2021, 9:09 AM

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I was just testing lol

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if it existed or not

versed saffron Jan 31, 2021, 9:09 AM

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wait a sec lol

simple sand Jan 31, 2021, 9:09 AM

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and thats not rust server

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lmao

versed saffron Jan 31, 2021, 9:09 AM

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weird that that's whitelisted

inland wolf Jan 31, 2021, 9:14 AM

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idk if this ill work but try stdout().flush().unwrap() instead of the let thing

mild abyss Jan 31, 2021, 9:16 AM

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i agree with zshanook

versed saffron Jan 31, 2021, 9:17 AM

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ah there was a '\r' char

inland wolf Jan 31, 2021, 9:18 AM

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brh

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also

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return s.trim()

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instead of just s

versed saffron Jan 31, 2021, 9:18 AM

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what does that do

inland wolf Jan 31, 2021, 9:18 AM

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cuz there will be a trailing \n

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trim removes whitespace on both ends of the string

versed saffron Jan 31, 2021, 9:21 AM

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with s.trim()

inland wolf Jan 31, 2021, 9:21 AM

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yes

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trim returns &str

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u can change the return type

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or

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convert the str to String

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like s.trim().to_string()

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i think that will work

versed saffron Jan 31, 2021, 9:22 AM

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ya that works thanks

inland wolf Jan 31, 2021, 9:23 AM

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nice

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 9:28 AM

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i am glad i understand what you guys are talking about

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ferrisOwO

inland wolf Jan 31, 2021, 9:42 AM

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ok

fossil oxide Jan 31, 2021, 9:55 AM

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if anyone wants repl.it codes or balsamiq codes pls dm me i won quite a few in a hackathon and i have no use of it

clear plume Jan 31, 2021, 12:09 PM

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Because what could go wrong with running code from a random person who claims to have won multiple large scale events

simple sand Jan 31, 2021, 12:24 PM

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chocolates taste amazing!!!!

narrow pecan Jan 31, 2021, 1:00 PM

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simple sand chocolates taste amazing!!!!

Oh yes, definitely

simple sand Jan 31, 2021, 1:01 PM

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i just ate 5 bars rn

narrow pecan Jan 31, 2021, 1:01 PM

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Oh dude

topaz aurora Jan 31, 2021, 1:03 PM

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five

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At best I eat like a half

simple sand Jan 31, 2021, 1:03 PM

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they are so good though

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and they weren't that big

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 1:04 PM

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how can i make my discord bot online?

runic wigeon Jan 31, 2021, 1:12 PM

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rough sapphire how can i make my discord bot online?

#discord-bots

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:46 PM

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I turned off secure boot and now windows defender real time protection is off and I can't turn it back on. Is this normal should? should I be worried?

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:48 PM

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just turn it on, go in settings for windows defender and turn it on

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:48 PM

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I can't I get it turn back on

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:49 PM

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@prisma agate go here in start menu

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prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:49 PM

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I get timeout error

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:49 PM

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you get error, when you turn on the "toggle button" of real time protection inside that Windows Security App?

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:49 PM

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yes

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:50 PM

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idk, this is a first

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 1:50 PM

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Secure boot shouldn't do anything about that

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Sounds like windows fucked up again though

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Can you try to reboot?

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:50 PM

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yeah, I turned of secure boot, and it stayed the same

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:50 PM

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I'll try that

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:50 PM

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but, I hate windows defender, so I completely removed it in the first place 😂

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:51 PM

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How did you manage to do that?

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as far as I know you can't do that

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:51 PM

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see, no "Anti Malware Service Executable"

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brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:51 PM

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prisma agate as far as I know you can't do that

oh, you can do anything, you're a programmer

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but it takes far less skill set to do that

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:52 PM

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brazen mica oh, you can do anything, you're a programmer

not yet.. just a high school student

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:52 PM

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that "anti malware service executable", it runs background scan on AC power, and my laptop is always on AC power, so it consumed lot of ram and cpu, so I shut it all down

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:53 PM

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as in disable it or Delete it?

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I know you can disable it, but how did you remove it entirely

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:54 PM

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brazen mica that "anti malware service executable", it runs background scan on AC power, and...

I have the same problem with vscode's microsoft python language server something

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It consumes too much ram

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:55 PM

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how much you have? total?

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:55 PM

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4 GB

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:55 PM

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yeah, if you're 4gb and don't need windows for anything except coding, switch to linux

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I need this sh** for Ms Office stuff

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so I have to stay

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and while I'm staying, I might as well code in this

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:56 PM

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brazen mica yeah, if you're 4gb and don't need windows for anything except coding, switch ...

I too use ms office but can't you get that on linux?

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:56 PM

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not Microsoft's

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 1:56 PM

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you can use web versions

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:56 PM

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there's some Office-libre stuff

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:56 PM

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rough sapphire you can use web versions

they're not free, I've heard

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:57 PM

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microsofts online stuff is free

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 1:57 PM

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brazen mica they're not free, I've heard

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/free-office-online-for-the-web

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:57 PM

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you know, if this is legit, like seriously legit, I'm switching tonight

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not kidding

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 1:58 PM

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what distro

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:58 PM

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recommendations?
I was ubuntu user before this

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mint maybe?

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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ubuntu is, meh

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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Heh, you can use Google Drive to load Office documents

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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what all changes can I expect in linux from windows, like if most of my time on laptop is spent on coding, music(spotify), whatsapp, and browsing?

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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yeah, I did some tcl on that

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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Ubuntu is good for beginners, although I prefer Debian

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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prisma agate what all changes can I expect in linux from windows, like if most of my time on ...

a better experience

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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Mint is soulless

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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solid pollen Ubuntu is good for beginners, although I prefer Debian

me too, simple and free

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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brazen mica recommendations? I was ubuntu user before this

I am planning on using kali

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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solid pollen Heh, you can use Google Drive to load Office documents

yeah, but microsoft's stuff is just kinda better, I think

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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after I switch

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I probably will buy a better laptop first

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:00 PM

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prisma agate I am planning on using kali

that will be a mistake

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even the best penetration testers use kali in a vm

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:00 PM

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why?

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:00 PM

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please 👏 don't 👏use👏Kali👏as👏your👏daily👏driver

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:00 PM

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it is very-very unstable thing

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:00 PM

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It isn't made to be a daily driver

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:00 PM

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yeah, its like for hackers to practice hacking, I've heard

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:01 PM

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I was trying it out for exactly that!

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:01 PM

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it will come with shit-ton load of tools that can potensially fuck up your install

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Although it doesn't use the root user by default now

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But still

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:01 PM

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yeah, I think Mint's the next choice

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Please don't do that

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I hate Mint, but at least it is an okay choice :P

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:02 PM

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if you need "hacker tools" you can use katoolin to install them

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:02 PM

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so what linux should I go for, I haven't used linux before only windows so something not too hard to operate

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:03 PM

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my personal favorite is Debian with KDE

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:03 PM

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u know, Ubuntu might be meh... but it never slowed down on me, ever, it was swift always

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:03 PM

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i have 4 gig ram and 2 core 3 GhZ cpu with onboard graphics, debian never even lagged on me

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:03 PM

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prisma agate so what linux should I go for, I haven't used linux before only windows so somet...

for some reason, a beginner should really go for Ubuntu, because I think its used the most in the world, in all educational institutions etc

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:04 PM

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I'd recommend you Debian if you are getting started

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If you are looking for some challenge you can go for Manjaro

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:04 PM

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there's a difference between "probably best linux distro for some guy" and "probably best linux distro for some guy"

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:05 PM

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I-

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:05 PM

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Ubuntu has most users, that means it is most likely to be best single distro for someone

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:05 PM

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although, although I'm going for Mint, cause I've heard or read it received some really nice updates and changes this time around

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:05 PM

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Ubuntu is based on Debian

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:05 PM

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But keep this in mind

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:05 PM

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So everything you'll see about Ubuntu can be applied to Debian

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:06 PM

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It has 20% in share, that means 80% it is not the distro you will be most satisfied

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So, just go for ubuntu, is a bad practice imo

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look at my other messages

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:06 PM

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yeah, windows can play games, hence the best os ever

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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no no, i use Debian

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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you cant play games on linux?

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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You can

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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You can

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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More or less

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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more or less 😂 , yeah

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:08 PM

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you also have to learn how to use usb's

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:08 PM

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ok, ms-online works, I'm switching

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thanks @rough sapphire was it? i think

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:08 PM

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what?

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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I mean, you suggested it, that its free

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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free as free software

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not free to use

topaz aurora Jan 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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Any Linux distro can be used in-place of Kali

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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Most DE will prompt you to mount the USB device now

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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solid pollen Can you try to reboot?

now that my pc rebooted it automatically fixed itself, probably some bug

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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Cool

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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rough sapphire not free to use

no, its free to use

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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it is

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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ms-office online for 5gb storage, its free

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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all distros are

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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The definition of free software is a bit special

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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that free is meant for free software

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:10 PM

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I mean, Microsoft-Office Online geez

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:10 PM

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oh

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:10 PM

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#ot1-perplexing-regexing message
you showed this earlier, remember

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:10 PM

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well how do I get started with dual booting linux

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without external media btw

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:10 PM

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You two definitions mostly:

Software that you don't need to pay for, that's the definition for just "free"
Software that is open source, because the Linux community decided that using free for this was smart

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:11 PM

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prisma agate well how do I get started with dual booting linux

How many disks?

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:11 PM

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prisma agate well how do I get started with dual booting linux

create a separate partition, install linux on it, and it should prompt you to choose bw windows and linux at the startup

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:11 PM

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prisma agate well how do I get started with dual booting linux

just install linux of your choice(partition your drive first) and then boot

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:11 PM

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brazen mica create a separate partition, install linux on it, and it should prompt you to ch...

if not, you can use grub update or smtn like that to add it to your bootloader

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:12 PM

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solid pollen How many disks?

1 hard disk with 512 GB less than 150GB used

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:12 PM

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No idea then haha

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I never looked into dual booting with one disk

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:12 PM

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i think you would like to go with something like 128GB or 64GB partiiton

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:12 PM

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Well, I know what the general procedure is, I don't know exactly how you do it

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:12 PM

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rough sapphire if not, you can use `grub update` or smtn like that to add it to your bootloader

I think it gets loaded automatically, but sometimes windows is still primary in boot order, so u need to change that in boot settings

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:13 PM

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ARCH

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:13 PM

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u know, why I'm saying Ubuntu for beginner
https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#1-overview

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👆 the teach everything

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:13 PM

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brazen mica I think it gets loaded automatically, but sometimes windows is still primary in ...

i am assuming he will use grub

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:13 PM

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oh we are talkin bout beginners

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Yeah, don't scare him

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:13 PM

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ubuntu i guess then

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:14 PM

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But a cool side of Arch is you are free to say "I use Arch btw"

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:14 PM

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you cant even get i3 gaps on it though bruh

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:14 PM

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But other than that all downhill

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:14 PM

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edgy crest ubuntu i guess then

i disagree

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:14 PM

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eh manjaro?

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:14 PM

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installing arch is worth it, only if you're gonna stick to using arch, and never switch back
lot of work

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:14 PM

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idk

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idk install any of a distro if you can

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:15 PM

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brazen mica installing arch is worth it, only if you're gonna stick to using arch, and never...

i want stability

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home server stuff

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:15 PM

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get debian then?

brazen mica Jan 31, 2021, 2:15 PM

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sh** updates are ready, need to restart now

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rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:15 PM

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edgy crest get debian then?

i have debian

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:15 PM

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then what are u talking bout

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:16 PM

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i told for him

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:16 PM

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ah

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who is him here i dont see him anywhere

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:16 PM

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If there is one thing I don't miss over anything else, is updates during runtime

round rose Jan 31, 2021, 2:17 PM

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I've never had those actually

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:17 PM

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lol rest in piece

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i just casually update while reading a pdf lol

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except when i get mirror failures thats annoying

round rose Jan 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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It always tells me it's going to update outside of my active hours, and then it never does unless I press "update" manually

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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even tho we all use different distros can we agree to not use kali?

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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yes

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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round rose It always tells me it's going to update outside of my active hours, and then it ...

which distro?

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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its not even a proper distro

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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rough sapphire even tho we all use different distros can we agree to not use kali?

yes

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Well

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Not as a daily driver

round rose Jan 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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rough sapphire which distro?

I'm on windows, not linux :P

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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edgy crest its not even a proper distro

if you need that tools, just install them seperatly

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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round rose I'm on windows, not linux :P

i meant 7 or 10

round rose Jan 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Oh, 10

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7 reached EoL a while ago, didn't it?

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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i still dual boot to it

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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well some people are still using XP

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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It reached EOL though

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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i only use it few times a year

round rose Jan 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Some people still use python 2, that doesn't make it any better

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Ah, you already said it

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:21 PM

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solid pollen Ah, you already said it

https://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/
what should I download here if I make partition cd/dvd ?I think I have amd64 chipset

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:21 PM

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idk, i don't code py that much

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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how to remove ping in edit mode in discord?

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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prisma agate https://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ what should I download here if I make par...

wait this will download "free only" version

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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prisma agate how to remove ping in edit mode in discord?

you can't i think

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

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use this for "non free" debian

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Why would you want a non free version?

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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if you have a nvidia card

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and he is a beginner, he shouldn't have to deal with driver installation

edgy crest Jan 31, 2021, 2:24 PM

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ah frick nvidia

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:25 PM

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rough sapphire if you have a nvidia card

non free is basically paid right?

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:25 PM

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edgy crest ah frick nvidia

as linus said

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:25 PM

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Isn't driver installation done at install time?

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:25 PM

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prisma agate non free is basically paid right?

no, not open source

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:25 PM

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solid pollen Isn't driver installation done at install time?

if you have non-free drivers, then no

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:25 PM

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Alright, that's pretty dumb

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Never use mesa drivers

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They are just hot garbagio

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:26 PM

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never open vim

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:26 PM

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I dont have nvidia

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I have intel 4000 graphics something

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:26 PM

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i don't think it would hurt to have non-free version, if you don't need any non-free stuff it just won't install it

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and btw choose a desktop env first

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:27 PM

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rough sapphire and btw choose a desktop env first

whats that?

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:28 PM

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your desktop enviroment

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https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.7.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-10.7.0-amd64-kde+nonfree.iso

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This insatalls kde

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and non-free stuff, if you have

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Can you join voice chat I share my screen or something

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if thats possible

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:30 PM

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You can't share screen on the server

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:30 PM

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or basically I dowload the file, make a partition copy and run

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:30 PM

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You download the file, burn it to a CD, and boot on it

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:31 PM

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or make a bootable usb

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which is more preferred tbh nowdays

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Eeehhh

clear plume Jan 31, 2021, 2:32 PM

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Usbs are being used more and more, so I agree.

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:32 PM

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I personally prefer to make cds of I'm working with laptops, so I will still have the installation medium on hand, without locking one of my USB

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:32 PM

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but i doubt he has a cd burner

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:32 PM

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i have a 4gb pendrive, i dont think thats enough capacity?

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:32 PM

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it is

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:33 PM

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CD players have burners integrated now

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It should be

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:33 PM

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deb is around 3.9 gig

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at most

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:33 PM

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solid pollen CD players have burners integrated now

then i doubt he has a cd player

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:33 PM

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solid pollen CD players have burners integrated now

yeah but I dont have re-writeable disks/empty disks

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:33 PM

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Fair 'nuff

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 2:34 PM

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well i have to go, see you akarys and good luck with your installation darkligt

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 2:34 PM

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Thanks

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bye

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 2:34 PM

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Cya!

wheat lintel Jan 31, 2021, 2:50 PM

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Hey, I need some help with my laptop under performing while light gaming, thanks.

quick ledge Jan 31, 2021, 3:26 PM

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prisma agate i have a 4gb pendrive, i dont think thats enough capacity?

hmm, 8GB is usually recommended.

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but it's worth a shot on a 4GB pendrive, if you don't have anything else lying around

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 3:27 PM

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made 128 gb partition

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 3:28 PM

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okay

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burn your iso file there

quick ledge Jan 31, 2021, 3:31 PM

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prisma agate made 128 gb partition

cool. Sure you wouldn't need more?

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 3:31 PM

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I don't think so

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I have windows 256 gb partition

inland wolf Jan 31, 2021, 3:32 PM

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installing linux?

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 3:32 PM

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yeah

inland wolf Jan 31, 2021, 3:32 PM

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i see

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 3:38 PM

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To make it into a volume, it asks me to format it

📎 unknown.png

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should I do NTFS or exFAT

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or do not format this volume

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@rough sapphire

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I have the iso downloaded in the D: volume btw

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 3:41 PM

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do not format

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you have to burn iso to a usb

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 3:45 PM

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quick ledge cool. Sure you wouldn't need more?

probably enough for most cases, i don't think he will download games

quick ledge Jan 31, 2021, 3:55 PM

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alright

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 3:55 PM

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i ran setup.exe, it asked normal mode or expert mode

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i chose normal mode

quick ledge Jan 31, 2021, 3:55 PM

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prisma agate I have the iso downloaded in the D: volume btw

use a tool like rofus to write the iso to the usb

quick ledge Jan 31, 2021, 3:56 PM

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prisma agate i ran setup.exe, it asked normal mode or expert mode

are you using rofus?

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 3:56 PM

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quick ledge are you using rofus?

no

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 3:56 PM

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idk about them, sorry

quick ledge Jan 31, 2021, 3:56 PM

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prisma agate i ran setup.exe, it asked normal mode or expert mode

where did you get this prompt?

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 3:57 PM

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in the window for setup.exe

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then it prompted me to reboot

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windows is safe

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i got back into my laptop 😅

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as I typed out my problem

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@rough sapphire

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 4:15 PM

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debian gnu continue install process

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 4:15 PM

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when clicking that

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solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 4:16 PM

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... lol

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 4:16 PM

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no idea

solid pollen Jan 31, 2021, 4:16 PM

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This is why you don't want to use the Windows bootloader when dualbooting

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 4:17 PM

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clicking windows 8.1 starts windows

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 4:17 PM

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i think he(correct me if i'm wrong) didn't install debian yet

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 4:18 PM

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then why would it show me the option to continue install

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what is that?

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 4:19 PM

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was typing yo somewhere else

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 4:19 PM

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ohh

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 5:25 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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@quick ledge

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I started making the bootable drive after finding my long lost usb

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But I discontinued the previous installation

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 5:30 PM

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prisma agate

while booting up it shows me this

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and now I have decided to install manjaro

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so how to remove those pseudo debian on my system and

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how to boot from usb

prisma agate Jan 31, 2021, 6:27 PM

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i kinda installed it

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and DONE

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YAAY

quick ledge Jan 31, 2021, 6:56 PM

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cool 😄

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 7:17 PM

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prisma agate and DONE

great, i don't know much about manjoro but welcome to the community!

rough sapphire Jan 31, 2021, 7:38 PM

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im a real gamer

honest pawn Jan 31, 2021, 7:57 PM

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rough sapphire im a real gamer

That's what they all say.

frozen thorn Feb 1, 2021, 4:08 AM

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a̶s̶d̶f̶

tribal aurora Feb 1, 2021, 4:14 AM

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what happened to the logo?

wise oriole Feb 1, 2021, 4:16 AM

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valentines day theme

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 5:13 AM

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happy february to anyone in EST

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why is "happy february" not a thing? i mean, a new month only happens 12 times a year

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:13 AM

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I mean

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That's the thing

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There are no "happy <month>" because there are 12 of them

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Except for beyond September, which is because Christmas is near

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Yeah

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Though people can also simply just be excited for it

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But I think belief in Jesus also contributes

inland wolf Feb 1, 2021, 6:21 AM

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rough sapphire why is "happy february" not a thing? i mean, a new month only happens 12 times a...

ikr

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:34 AM

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rough sapphire Except for beyond September, which is because Christmas is near

september? that early?

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i would think it would only be december

frozen thorn Feb 1, 2021, 6:38 AM

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Hmmm

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lol dementati changed pfp

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I guess he/she own the statue or visit the place where it is occasionally.

haughty fractal Feb 1, 2021, 7:41 AM

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I love the new logo :)

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 7:45 AM

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rough sapphire september? that early?

I mean, it's Christmas

narrow pecan Feb 1, 2021, 8:20 AM

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haughty fractal I love the new logo \:)

I agree, it’s very nice 😄

mild abyss Feb 1, 2021, 8:22 AM

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beaster vester cucumber

narrow pecan Feb 1, 2021, 8:23 AM

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Am I a beast?

mild abyss Feb 1, 2021, 8:24 AM

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we are all beasts

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we just never identify ourselves as one because we think we are higher form of organism when we arent huhuhu

narrow pecan Feb 1, 2021, 8:25 AM

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Loll that’s something new

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I’d say that we’re animals and not beasts, but yeah, the same concept applies

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 8:26 AM

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It is kinda reasonable to think we are a "higher form" because of self-awareness

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And I don't mean that like "you can abuse lower-form animals"

mild abyss Feb 1, 2021, 8:28 AM

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in biology, there is no such thing as higher form or whatever level. sentience is just a trait that we evolved luckily i guess.

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 8:29 AM

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Hmm

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Maybe there is, but not in the way people might think "higher form" means?

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I'll be honest, but it doesn't seem that sentience from luck should disallow people being a "higher form", whatever that is

mild abyss Feb 1, 2021, 8:31 AM

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in terms of terraforming yes, but biology? no

narrow pecan Feb 1, 2021, 8:32 AM

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Humans can only scratch the surface of earth. We could destroy most life, but we can’t destroy the planet itself

mild abyss Feb 1, 2021, 8:32 AM

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yeah if we are talking about the consciousness, then probably

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 8:33 AM

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narrow pecan Humans can only scratch the surface of earth. We could destroy most life, but we...

And I think it's important to note that "could" ≠ "should"

narrow pecan Feb 1, 2021, 8:33 AM

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Of course

mild abyss Feb 1, 2021, 8:33 AM

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~~no. it should be should~~

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 8:34 AM

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I think that is possibly the case nowadays

narrow pecan Feb 1, 2021, 8:35 AM

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mild abyss ~~no. it should be should~~

:(

mild abyss Feb 1, 2021, 8:35 AM

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the earth is itself a nuclear bomb given that its core has lots of radioactive materials

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fun fact 😄

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 8:35 AM

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...

mild abyss Feb 1, 2021, 8:35 AM

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lol, it already is melting at a point of no return

narrow pecan Feb 1, 2021, 8:36 AM

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That would just be like the earth scratching their knee. It’s nothing compared to the huge planet that’s inside the crust

mild abyss Feb 1, 2021, 8:37 AM

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except extremophiles

narrow pecan Feb 1, 2021, 8:37 AM

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Most of the ones we commonly think about, yeah

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But things living at the bottom of the sea? Things living under the ground? In caves? In great mountains or in the middle of the Pacific Ocean?

mild abyss Feb 1, 2021, 8:39 AM

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extremophiles will still live regardless hmm

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 8:39 AM

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It is interesting that the only reason nuclear warfare is not currently the case is because it's redundant

narrow pecan Feb 1, 2021, 8:39 AM

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I mean, poison the entire ocean?

mild abyss Feb 1, 2021, 8:39 AM

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u wipe their source of energy or sustenance i guess

narrow pecan Feb 1, 2021, 8:40 AM

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That’s about 1.35 billion trillion liters to poison

mild abyss Feb 1, 2021, 8:41 AM

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air inside the rocks can suffice most extremophiles

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though the ones that depend on the atmosphere would probably die

acoustic moss Feb 1, 2021, 8:47 AM

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wth happened here

solid pollen Feb 1, 2021, 8:47 AM

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.....

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why

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 8:48 AM

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acoustic moss wth happened here

Oh, we were just talking about death

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Nothing too complicated

acoustic moss Feb 1, 2021, 8:48 AM

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lovely

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 8:48 AM

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'Tis indeed

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It kinda is

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 9:17 AM

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Like in the game ||Horizon: Zero Dawn||

undone fox Feb 1, 2021, 9:55 AM

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do you like to tilt your chair so that it's swinging?

acoustic moss Feb 1, 2021, 1:42 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNSoPa-XQN0

YouTube

Statistics and data

The Most Popular Programming Languages - 1965/2020

In this video the most used programming languages from 1965 to 2020. The data are updated to the second quarter of 2020. In the second quarter of 2020 the most used programming languages are: Python, Javascript and Java. C#, PHP, C++ and others follow.

The source of the starting data is the video and the calculation made by Data is Beautiful w...

▶ Play video

simple sand Feb 1, 2021, 1:57 PM

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from 1965, wow

acoustic moss Feb 1, 2021, 2:01 PM

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C really caught on lol

inland wolf Feb 1, 2021, 2:32 PM

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damn

finite sierra Feb 1, 2021, 2:47 PM

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i haven't even heard of ada

graceful basin Feb 1, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Ada is really neat

tropic ibex Feb 1, 2021, 3:12 PM

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How do we know that ‘To Autumn’ is an ode?

edgy crest Feb 1, 2021, 3:33 PM

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rust is not on the list

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ferrisSob

inland wolf Feb 1, 2021, 3:33 PM

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sad moment

bright solar Feb 1, 2021, 3:38 PM

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@wheat lynx I agree, is asking people if things are true bad too?

wheat lynx Feb 1, 2021, 3:40 PM

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I'm not sure what you mean

acoustic moss Feb 1, 2021, 3:48 PM

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edgy crest rust is not on the list

tbf rust is rather recent, isn't it?

edgy crest Feb 1, 2021, 3:49 PM

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yeah

solid pollen Feb 1, 2021, 3:49 PM

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Yep

edgy crest Feb 1, 2021, 3:49 PM

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released on 2016 iirc

solid pollen Feb 1, 2021, 3:49 PM

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2016 iirc

edgy crest Feb 1, 2021, 3:49 PM

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jinx

acoustic moss Feb 1, 2021, 3:49 PM

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jinx?

solid pollen Feb 1, 2021, 3:49 PM

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oh no

edgy crest Feb 1, 2021, 3:49 PM

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double jinx

acoustic moss Feb 1, 2021, 3:49 PM

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lol

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fortran held the top spot for quite some time

edgy crest Feb 1, 2021, 3:51 PM

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probably because you cant immediately switch to a new language

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even after a release of a new one

acoustic moss Feb 1, 2021, 3:52 PM

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program hello
  implicit none
  write(*,*) 'Hello world!'
end program hello

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hello world in fortran

acoustic moss Feb 1, 2021, 3:52 PM

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edgy crest probably because you cant immediately switch to a new language

yeah

edgy crest Feb 1, 2021, 3:52 PM

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yea

simple sand Feb 1, 2021, 3:59 PM

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cool

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acoustic moss Feb 1, 2021, 4:11 PM

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I'm still stuck in the 60s at best 🥲

simple sand Feb 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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my accuracy isn't that good, this is one of the few times i got 100%

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 4:12 PM

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am I supposed to backspace and fix?

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or just power through the errors?

clear plume Feb 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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That's not bad at all lol

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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looks like a cool site

clear plume Feb 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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108 wpm w/ 97 acc

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 4:13 PM

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better than I expected tbh

mellow fog Feb 1, 2021, 4:38 PM

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okay i just read the installer news on python.org and i noticed it say python 3.9.1 is the first python to support macos 11

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don't ask me how i did it, but apparently earlier versions also work lmao

haughty fractal Feb 1, 2021, 4:40 PM

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Is there a server for C++ where ppl can ask doubts?
*don't ban or kill me(I ❤️ python)

inland wolf Feb 1, 2021, 4:40 PM

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yes

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i dont have the link tho

haughty fractal Feb 1, 2021, 4:41 PM

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what's the name?

inland wolf Feb 1, 2021, 4:41 PM

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together with c/c++

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i think

haughty fractal Feb 1, 2021, 4:41 PM

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oh that ._.

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nvm

inland wolf Feb 1, 2021, 4:41 PM

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ight

mellow fog Feb 1, 2021, 4:44 PM

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mellow fog okay i just read the `installer news` on python.org and i noticed it say python ...

wow, the installer news also mentions that pip doesn't work on macos 11

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misty dew Feb 1, 2021, 4:51 PM

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@nova basin but python is very useful for teaching the concepts of programming

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and is much more beginner friendly than java

lone cradle Feb 1, 2021, 4:52 PM

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I am coming

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here tooo

nova basin Feb 1, 2021, 4:55 PM

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misty dew <@!747637186257616969> but python is very useful for teaching the concepts of pr...

Agreed. I started with Python, and it took me probably 2 years until I actually knew what I was doing. I knew and understood the basics like loops and stuff pretty early on, but had no idea how oop worked. Now I’m learning Java, and had I started with Java it would’ve forced me to understand those things early on and not left me confused for the first 2 years when I started programming

misty dew Feb 1, 2021, 4:56 PM

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well if you had followed a proper tutorial they all teach the concepts to you

nova basin Feb 1, 2021, 4:58 PM

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misty dew well if you had followed a proper tutorial they all teach the concepts to you

Facts

gritty zinc Feb 1, 2021, 5:01 PM

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I was taught Java as my first "serious" language (after a few years of some Basic and Pascal derivatives in middle school), and I don't think I like the results. Even now that I know Java better, I don't program in it much; it's just that the niche in which it's good is pretty small (app development?) - in most cases, it's just unnecessarily verbose and not very fast.

Learning Python was what made me really start programming all the time, for my own tasks, because it became simple to just go and write a program. I understand the argument that it's hard to teach, say, DSA in Python, but I'm not sure what's a good alternative.

green eagle Feb 1, 2021, 5:05 PM

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ot

frozen coral Feb 1, 2021, 5:14 PM

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Ahh cool, @royal lake is streaming again

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Wow! Cool stream, I never expected @royal lake to stream things this cool.

inland wolf Feb 1, 2021, 5:18 PM

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agreed

acoustic moss Feb 1, 2021, 5:19 PM

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wish all youtubers put in half this much effort 😔

wheat lynx Feb 1, 2021, 5:33 PM

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does anyone know the name of the music in the stream, i'm sure i've heard it somewhere before

solid pollen Feb 1, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Nah, I don’t know

midnight dirge Feb 1, 2021, 5:38 PM

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I think it's one of those 1800s classic

finite sierra Feb 1, 2021, 5:39 PM

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😔 those classics never really give you up huh

gritty zinc Feb 1, 2021, 5:39 PM

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I've actually heard it - I believe it's something a user of this discord made up. I've seen it posted as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlYQSoAZTtk.

solid pollen Feb 1, 2021, 5:40 PM

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I almost clicked

gritty zinc Feb 1, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Yup, found the source - <#ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval message>. @stark oasis is probably the composer.

finite sierra Feb 1, 2021, 5:40 PM

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i now know not to click on any youtube link in discord that doesn't render its embed

thorny shoal Feb 1, 2021, 5:43 PM

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hello there, i would like to apply for the modmail role

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thank you

finite sierra Feb 1, 2021, 5:44 PM

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first case of humans taking over computers jobs

solid pollen Feb 1, 2021, 5:45 PM

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You’d probably be less buggy than our current modmail

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It breaks after each restart

gritty zinc Feb 1, 2021, 5:45 PM

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beep bop I'm listening to DM reports, fellow bots!

finite sierra Feb 1, 2021, 5:45 PM

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is a modmail system that hard to make? couldn't we just integrate something like it into @royal lake / make our own?

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Someone should report ModMail

finite sierra Feb 1, 2021, 5:46 PM

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in my head it doesn't seem too difficult, but i think i'll run into issues the second i start

solid pollen Feb 1, 2021, 5:46 PM

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gritty zinc *beep bop* I'm *listening to **DM reports***, fellow bots!

DMs disabled smh

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 5:47 PM

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What projects have you guys recently done in Python

solid pollen Feb 1, 2021, 5:47 PM

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rough sapphire What projects have you guys recently done in Python

glad you asked lemon_fingerguns_shades https://github.com/Akarys42/cloudflare-ddns-docker

GitHub

Akarys42/cloudflare-ddns-docker

A Docker service updating your Cloudflare DNS records periodically. - Akarys42/cloudflare-ddns-docker

gritty zinc Feb 1, 2021, 5:48 PM

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I tried to make a scanner for Minecraft region files, realised it takes 121 ms to scan a chunk, said yikes and did it in Rust.

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In Rust, it takes 2-4s per 1024 chunks.

(prime example of something Python is just not good for. There was no way to make the Python way faster, not unless I wanted to rewrite the library I was using in Cython or something)

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 5:49 PM

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I know bugger-all about Docker, sadly and unfortunely

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Don't know anything too, but Rust's speed kinda makes me curious

inland wolf Feb 1, 2021, 5:51 PM

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same

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 5:51 PM

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Friendship ended with duck typing

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private static void main is now my friend

inland wolf Feb 1, 2021, 5:54 PM

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i need to learn what X typing is

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:04 PM

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d**king hell

acoustic moss Feb 1, 2021, 6:04 PM

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is X typing just figuring out what goes in place of *s

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:05 PM

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If I am in control, why not, because

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I have all the power in the world

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If I can define words

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Yeah, I was gonna mention that 😅

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Something on the lines of "I'm a dictator"

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Legal disclaimer: Am not

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Unless...

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You can't disprove I am currently a dictatorial world leader

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Damn, that's terrible

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A question just popped into my head

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What stops miltaries of democracies from not seizing power

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.topic

median domeBOT Feb 1, 2021, 6:10 PM

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**What is your earliest memory of Easter?**

Suggest more topics here!

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:11 PM

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Yeah

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And yet, it doesn't seem they don't want to stage a coup

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Except for this, of course

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:38 PM

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rough sapphire What stops miltaries of democracies from not seizing power

retaliation? The US Military is ordered not to obey unlawful orders, so a coup is illegal, just becasue the top brass says coup doesn't mean the soldiers say "me too"

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I like to think most soldiers do intend to honor the oath they take

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Constitution comes before the brass

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:38 PM

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Hmm

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There can be the threat of death from the top

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:39 PM

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Varies by country, but Myanmar had been a military dictatorship for what, 5 decades before they pretended to try democracy?

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:39 PM

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rough sapphire There can be the threat of death from the top

The old man is gonna kill the private?

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The military brass relies on fresh blood

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Their bodies are no longer for combat

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They are there for their minds

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And tehre are a lot less generals than soldiers

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:40 PM

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surreal otter The old man is gonna kill the private?

Indirectly, at least

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And it might not even be true

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It being the threat

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Also in the US the different branches would all need to agree to...overthrow the US government?

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And then all the soldiers of the brancehs would need to throw out their oaths

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I just don't see it happening

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Myanmar never stopped beign run by the military

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the democracy was a facade, and htey got tired of pretending

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:41 PM

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surreal otter Also in the US the different branches would all need to agree to...overthrow the...

Hmm, I think this is a good argument against

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I have in the back of my mind though: "Do they need to agree?"

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And it's fair that it's gonna be a lot of people against a few (relatively)

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Take over what? Their own countries? Or the world?

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:43 PM

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surreal otter Myanmar never stopped beign run by the military

Hmm, that might explain it

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Because I don't see Iran and Israel joining forces any time soon

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:43 PM

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But there might be infighting with a military coalition

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Who would lead the world? None of these power hungry fascists would willingly give up control

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You're describing WWIII and why authoritarianism is absolutely horrible for humanity

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If everyone got their own Hitler

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:44 PM

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So a global military coalition is out of the table, because it's an authoritarian against other auths

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:45 PM

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rough sapphire So a global military coalition is out of the table, because it's an authoritaria...

Which is why we have things like NATO and the UN

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to do nothing when the authoritarians attack

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Oooof

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But in a country-level where there might not be too much infighting

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:46 PM

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depends

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:47 PM

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Oh, yeah

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:47 PM

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and again, from a country that already had an authoritarian leadership style and military governance in place

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where the military already exerts extreme political control

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might even be a party

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you are more like to have a coup

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than a non political military, where politics are strictly forbidden, like the US

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as you're not going to be as likely to have a group of like minded fascists all together

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:47 PM

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Coups aren't necessarily military, aren't they?

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:47 PM

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Gonna end up with people who are willing to die for country, not leadership

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I mean...

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how else do you take over a government without the support of their military?

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Defeat the military

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so that's conquest

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civil war

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Ah, yeah

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Forgot about military permission

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:48 PM

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generally the military won't allow someone to topple the governemnt, it is their job to protect the nation

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Which is why they are the ones to commit a coup

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sicne they get all the firepower

onyx hare Feb 1, 2021, 6:49 PM

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I was actually recently reading about the 1953 coup of Persia

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like just yesterday

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:49 PM

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surreal otter Which is why they are the ones to commit a coup

And also why they are the ones to stop a coup, when it is needed

onyx hare Feb 1, 2021, 6:50 PM

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and the UK, yeah. all on wikipedia, pretty crazy

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:50 PM

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Yea, the US loves coups, we're the #1 sponsor

onyx hare Feb 1, 2021, 6:50 PM

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I'm half Iranian so I've been trying to read up a bit on our history. it's pretty wild

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:50 PM

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I guess that's why we gave it a shot here in DC

onyx hare Feb 1, 2021, 6:51 PM

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was that technically a coup?

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whoa

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:51 PM

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I mean, it is attempted

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:51 PM

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I mean, they were trying to kidnap / murder congress who was in the process of certifying the election...

onyx hare Feb 1, 2021, 6:51 PM

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do any of you have a link I could read on, I'm now in the coup rabbithole

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:52 PM

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so uh, trying to overturn a legal election to install your fascist is definitely an attempted coup

onyx hare Feb 1, 2021, 6:52 PM

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surreal otter I mean, they were trying to kidnap / murder congress who was in the process of c...

wow, I had no idea. I'm in Canada and have been abstaining from the news mostly as of late

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:52 PM

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Wikipedia is generally a good place to read on, as long as what it says has sources

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:52 PM

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The fact that they called it 'stop the steal' is just them projecting

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Literally attempting to steal an election by calling it 'stop the steal'

onyx hare Feb 1, 2021, 6:52 PM

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surreal otter The fact that they called it 'stop the steal' is just them projecting

That's fucking unreal

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:52 PM

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81 to 74 million votes

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but Biden stole it, sure thing cheeto

onyx hare Feb 1, 2021, 6:52 PM

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LMAO

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:53 PM

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I'm from one of the states they wanted to cancel all the votes for

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Only battleground states where Trump lost

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no evidence of any fraud

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:53 PM

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The thing though is that there seems to be genuine belief of a steal

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:53 PM

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but in battleground states trump lost, they wanted to toss the presidential results, not hte downballot races, no issues with htose

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no fraud ANYWHERE else, but battle ground stateso n the presidential ticket

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Not American presidents generally

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Though we did just have the biggest loser of the bunch

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Normally they are gracious and accept defeat, and assist in a peaceful transition of power

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:54 PM

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I mean, I guess so

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I meant it more like "it is genuinely believed that the election was rigged, despite general lack of proper evidence for and general abundance of proper evidence against"

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"Rigged" in somehow the sense of a steal

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There's the Electoral College and all that, but that's not it

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:57 PM

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rough sapphire I meant it more like "it is genuinely believed that the election was rigged, des...

no, it's more like "we have no evidence of rigging but I Lost so it was rigged because I can't lose"

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Funny how in 2016 our elections were secure as ever

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it only took 4 years with Trump at the helm to break them,

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Way to sell your legacy there

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 6:57 PM

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It might have something to do with turnout

surreal otter Feb 1, 2021, 6:58 PM

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Yea, turnout was insane because America got tired of his shit

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He did more for the Democratic party than any Democrat since FDR

manic bloom Feb 1, 2021, 7:00 PM

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feel bad for the guy who has to go back and change impeached from bool to int

rough sapphire Feb 1, 2021, 7:00 PM

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We have officially circled back into programming

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I want to imagine that there was a programming language invented with the independence of America

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~~You can only use USA as letters~~ I have placed this into my "really terrible jokes" box

manic bloom Feb 1, 2021, 7:04 PM

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no, color based

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red for 1

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blue for 0

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white for space

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white's there just for making it look neat

gritty zinc Feb 1, 2021, 7:10 PM

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manic bloom blue for 0

~~you can also use any other colors, but they are ignored at evaluation stage~~ 😛

round rose Feb 1, 2021, 8:18 PM

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So like whitespace

rancid haven Feb 2, 2021, 6:45 AM

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i won't fall for this a 2nd time

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it's a rick roll

stark oasis Feb 2, 2021, 6:49 AM

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man, I hate ffmpeg filter complex options. Theyre so impossible to understand.

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I tried to get hstack to work, and it tells me every time that the heights dont match. Even if I use the same video.

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I got someone on stackoverflow to figure this out

ffmpeg -i in1 -i in2 -filter_complex
       "[0][1]scale2ref='oh*mdar':'if(lt(main_h,ih),ih,main_h)'[0s][1s];
        [1s][0s]scale2ref='oh*mdar':'if(lt(main_h,ih),ih,main_h)'[1s][0s];
        [0s][1s]hstack,setsar=1"   output

And that works, really cool. But that doesnt help with hstacking more than 1 input.

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those options are ridiculous tbh

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But I can run the script multiple times. using the output of the first time as one of the inputs the second time

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This takes longer, but its so much easier that figuring out that insane option syntax

long topaz Feb 2, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Ves is in trouble today.

foggy pollen Feb 2, 2021, 7:03 AM

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no meme(

slender vector Feb 2, 2021, 7:26 AM

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Hey

rough sapphire Feb 2, 2021, 8:32 AM

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hello

stark oasis Feb 2, 2021, 9:01 AM

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I need to learn numpy. I want to use cv2, but a lot of it I dont follow because Ive never done much numpy.

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So I do that

edgy crest Feb 2, 2021, 9:34 AM

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excuse_me_what

versed saffron Feb 2, 2021, 9:37 AM

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numpy's great

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11/10 super nice to learn

slender vector Feb 2, 2021, 9:49 AM

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What is advent of code

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did anyone know here

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Advent of Code 2020
https://adventofcode.com

stark oasis Feb 2, 2021, 9:51 AM

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Theyre coding puzzles that people compete to finish faster i think (not sure)

slender vector Feb 2, 2021, 9:52 AM

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Can I do that now

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Or its finised

edgy crest Feb 2, 2021, 10:00 AM

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its finished

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you can still solve the puzzles for practice but the competition is done

slender vector Feb 2, 2021, 10:02 AM

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Did you know what to do after sing up

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Just see a

📎 Screenshot_2021-02-02_153434.png

oak tangle Feb 2, 2021, 10:08 AM

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Once you're logged in with one of the Auth providers, you can go back to the calendar and do any puzzle you like

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You're still getting points and you can still join private leaderboards, if you like

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Although I'd just consider them to be fun puzzles that may help you learn a thing or two

slender vector Feb 2, 2021, 10:09 AM

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what is sponsor joint code

edgy crest Feb 2, 2021, 10:09 AM

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you can leave it empty

oak tangle Feb 2, 2021, 10:10 AM

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You don't need one. The event has some companies that sponsor it and if you're an employee of one of those, you can enter a sponsor code

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but if you're not, and it sounds like you're not, just leave it empty

slender vector Feb 2, 2021, 10:10 AM

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oak tangle You don't need one. The event has some companies that sponsor it and if you're a...

No not at all

slender vector Feb 2, 2021, 10:10 AM

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oak tangle but if you're not, and it sounds like you're not, just leave it empty

Ya

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after going on the calendar I should click on 1 n

stark oasis Feb 2, 2021, 10:12 AM

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I should try them some time. Im learning numpy and cv2 right now

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What Im hoping for is that cv2 will allow me to accomplish some tasks with a more clear interface than if you write them with ffmpeg.

slender vector Feb 2, 2021, 10:27 AM

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Its hard to find answers

sand inlet Feb 2, 2021, 11:41 AM

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@drifting bay @tropic tusk afaik it's not that python itself is being detected as a virus, but the process of compiling python to an .exe has been used to make a lot of actual malware so antiviruses have noticed and started flagging everything that does that as malware

📎 beeloaf.png

drifting bay Feb 2, 2021, 11:43 AM

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makes sense. either way, seems like just about everything that isn't completely basic ends up being detected as a virus, it's annoying

sand inlet Feb 2, 2021, 11:43 AM

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yeah i haven't actually tried compiling python programs but it definitely sounds annoying

graceful basin Feb 2, 2021, 11:44 AM

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https://pyinstaller.readthedocs.io/en/stable/bootloader-building.html if you do this, it should fix it

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for pyinstaller at least

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you just install python on the machine that's running it, yeah

drifting bay Feb 2, 2021, 11:44 AM

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i do like it though; it's a nightmare trying to get anyone to run what you make as a python script

floral viper Feb 2, 2021, 11:44 AM

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They are interpreted by a virtual machine

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3265357/compiled-vs-interpreted-languages

Stack Overflow

Compiled vs. Interpreted Languages

I'm trying to get a better understanding of the difference. I've found a lot of explanations online, but they tend towards the abstract differences rather than the practical implications.

Most of my

drifting bay Feb 2, 2021, 11:46 AM

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if your os is set up to run python files you run the file directly but otherwise it'd be something like py somescript.py

floral viper Feb 2, 2021, 11:46 AM

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Right, usually it is bundled as a module and installed on the system

drifting bay Feb 2, 2021, 11:47 AM

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this is what's frustrating btw; release it as code and people can't figure out how to run something that isn't a .exe. release it as a .exe and you get messaged accusing you of spreading a virus

floral viper Feb 2, 2021, 11:47 AM

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Hence why you write dead simple install instructions

drifting bay Feb 2, 2021, 11:48 AM

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if you're selling it and it's like a big project maybe you could afford to take greater steps to get it removed from all these virus scanning sites

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or just verified by a good one and call it a day

tropic tusk Feb 2, 2021, 11:51 AM

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sand inlet <@!308822620646932480> <@!395275585955561473> afaik it's not that python itself ...

okey thank you very much

stark oasis Feb 2, 2021, 11:54 AM

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import cv2 as cv

cap = cv.VideoCapture('vid.mp4')
while cap.isOpened():
    ret, frame = cap.read()
    # if frame is read correctly ret is True
    if not ret:
        print("Can't receive frame (stream end?) Exiting...")
        break
    gray = cv.cvtColor(frame, cv.COLOR_BGR2GRAY)
    cv.imshow('frame', gray)
    if cv.waitKey(100) == ord('q'):
        break
cap.release()
cv.destroyAllWindows()

If I run this, it plays the video. If I click the X in the top right window, it will open the window again infinitely until I press q. Why?

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Also, cv.waitKey(delay) seems to be tied to the speed the video plays, why is that connected to the 'q'?

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yeah

inland wolf Feb 2, 2021, 12:00 PM

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lol

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@west zephyr what is ret?

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hmm

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ah ok

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cools

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is cap.read an iterable?

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does it return*

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i see

runic wigeon Feb 2, 2021, 12:59 PM

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Is there any way through which I can check how many hours I've spent online?

rough sapphire Feb 2, 2021, 1:52 PM

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You can install an extension that would track that, if you are in a browser

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But the tracking would only start after you install it

narrow pecan Feb 2, 2021, 1:52 PM

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That kind of depends on what device you have. On Apple products, you have the ”Screen Time” section in Settings, where you can track your screen time and the distribution of what you’ve done during that time

inland wolf Feb 2, 2021, 2:11 PM

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screen time is there on newer versions of android too

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idk abt windows

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yea

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they already track enough

rough sapphire Feb 2, 2021, 3:14 PM

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Ooh

stark oasis Feb 2, 2021, 4:35 PM

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I need to comb through every repo I have and copy out utils that I rewrite constantly across new projects and put them into a global utils library...

empty orbit Feb 2, 2021, 7:45 PM

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quick one: why this server doesn't have user roles(other than mods, etc)?

wheat lynx Feb 2, 2021, 8:38 PM

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Mainly so the roles are more meaningful, so if someone sees someone with a role they know it doesn't just mean they've clicked on some reaction somewhere or sent a certain number of messages

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@empty orbit

high verge Feb 3, 2021, 1:26 AM

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didn't it used to have developer or something

mild abyss Feb 3, 2021, 2:02 AM

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everyone is assumed to be a developer so no need for that role i guess

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 4:39 AM

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It seems pretty logical that once you have an operation, that you'd want to find it's inverse

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 4:41 AM

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imo the fact that the area under a curve is even remotely related to the slope of a completely different curve is hardly trivial

shadow jetty Feb 3, 2021, 4:41 AM

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integrals were defined in terms of sums though -- and derivatives defined in terms of ratios -- it's not obvious what the inverse of those definitions were

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 4:41 AM

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Hmm

shadow jetty Feb 3, 2021, 4:41 AM

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before limits and all the weird liebniz infinitismal stuff

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 4:41 AM

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I'm guessing the rules of differentiation and integration for functions weren't really known yet?

shadow jetty Feb 3, 2021, 4:42 AM

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some of the rules were known

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derivatives of polynomials i'm pretty sure was known

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and probably trig functions?

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my math history isn't that clear

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 4:43 AM

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But once you have those, isn't it pretty easy to derive their counterparts?

shadow jetty Feb 3, 2021, 4:44 AM

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calculating, say area under a sine curve isn't that simple --- you need some amount of infinite series stuff which probably wasn't developed until later

grizzled hearth Feb 3, 2021, 4:45 AM

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Yo guys I'm in need of a news API that supports multiple sources. Any idea of good ones?

shadow jetty Feb 3, 2021, 4:45 AM

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maybe they knew that the area under the curve corresponded to the antiderivative, but i dunno -- and it certainly wouldn't have been obvious that it generalized

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 4:46 AM

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Yeah, that makes sense

shadow jetty Feb 3, 2021, 4:47 AM

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i think once you have the fundamental theorem of calculus, things develop very quickly though

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 4:47 AM

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He [Leibniz] continued this reasoning to argue that the integral was in fact the sum of the ordinates for infinitesimal intervals in the abscissa; in effect, the sum of an infinite number of rectangles. From these definitions the inverse relationship or differential became clear and Leibniz quickly realized the potential to form a whole new system of mathematics.

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Around 1673

shadow jetty Feb 3, 2021, 4:50 AM

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should be noted that leibniz's approach to calculus wasn't axiomatized until 1960? ish --- the nonstandard calculus is a really fun way to learn it

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonstandard_calculus

Nonstandard calculus

In mathematics, nonstandard calculus is the modern application of infinitesimals, in the sense of nonstandard analysis, to infinitesimal calculus. It provides a rigorous justification for some arguments in calculus that were previously considered merely heuristic.
Non-rigorous calculations with infinitesimals were widely used before Karl Weierst...

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and the proofs are a lot simpler, in fact!

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it's a bit of a shame that delta-epsilon proofs are still so popular

cinder flume Feb 3, 2021, 9:28 AM

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jajaja

deft kestrel Feb 3, 2021, 10:19 AM

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I need a stress relief channel oof

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 1:42 PM

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📎 cube_62.png

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:01 PM

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hey @surreal otter

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:01 PM

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hello

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:01 PM

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so you were saying, c or cpp?

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what are they used for anyways?

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:02 PM

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low level stuff

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everything basically

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:02 PM

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stuff to do with the computer?

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:02 PM

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C runs the world?

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:02 PM

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yeah true

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:02 PM

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its one of the oldest too

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wont that be not future proof

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to learn it now

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:02 PM

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Well

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:02 PM

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more easy for computer to understand

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:02 PM

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Peopel have been saying that for 40 years

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lol

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:02 PM

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c is very powerful

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:02 PM

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which is why there's 400 languages

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and C is stil lrunning the world

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:03 PM

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yup

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:03 PM

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oh i see

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:03 PM

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But if you want to be ahead of the pace, you can risk it

#

and go with Go, Rust, Zig

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they are the ones trying to replace C

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but C is here

#

those might not be

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:03 PM

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Go is moving ahead now

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:03 PM

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C only needs one replacement, and right now that replacement is C

#

C has jobs today

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will havej obs tomorrow

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in a decade? You'll already be in the field

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You can learn on the job

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C is safe

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:03 PM

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wise words

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why dont u recommend java though?

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and c#

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:04 PM

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C is like basics

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Fuck that noise

#

C# is Java by Microsoft

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and Java is fuck Larry Ellison

#

Fuck closed source languages

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:04 PM

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whats that lmao

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:04 PM

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for profit

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:04 PM

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surreal otter C# is Java by Microsoft

ohh

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Oracle

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Not by the community, Oracle controls Java

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:04 PM

#

oh

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but whats so bad about it?

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:05 PM

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I saw a meme

#

lemme find it

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:05 PM

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Anyways Java is moving down in popularity

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:05 PM

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fallen fossil but whats so bad about it?

terribly restricting license for recent versions of java

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:06 PM

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rough sapphire Anyways Java is moving down in popularity

oh ok time to ditch considering java

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:06 PM

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#ot1-perplexing-regexing message

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:06 PM

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Anyways

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:06 PM

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surreal otter and go with Go, Rust, Zig

never heard of zig though.. and hesitant to learn them, afraid that they wont be as good as learning c

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:06 PM

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no meme? :'(

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:06 PM

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I can't find it

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:07 PM

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rip

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:07 PM

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I saw it on reddit on the phone this mroning, maybe yesterday

#

no idea which of the subs

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:07 PM

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its fine

#

is learning c hard tho?

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:07 PM

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yes

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:08 PM

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oh sheeeet

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:08 PM

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surreal otter yes

What?

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:08 PM

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c# seems to be becoming popular

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*microsoft java

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:08 PM

#

acoustic moss c# seems to be becoming popular

yup

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:09 PM

#

acoustic moss *microsoft java

Yeah MS .NET uses it

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:09 PM

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learning C is hard

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was my yes

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:09 PM

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surreal otter learning C is hard

in which way

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:09 PM

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a lot of complexity gets added

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:10 PM

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tru

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:11 PM

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acoustic moss c# seems to be becoming popular

but as gnabergasher said, its anothe close sourced langauge or smth right

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:11 PM

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afaik it's open source

#

I may be wrong

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https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/5479/how-much-of-the-c-programming-language-is-open-source

Open Source Stack Exchange

How much of the C# programming language is open source?

I know that for many years, C# was proprietary, and it's always been focused on Windows. Then I started hearing about Microsoft releasing component after component of the language's framework as open-

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:12 PM

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it says that its a language so not matters

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but it complier is closed source

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Yea, I'd go with C or C++ over C#, larger support overall

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:13 PM

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owned by MS

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I go with C personally

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Once you learn it, you won't regret it

#

but stick with Python

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:13 PM

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very handy

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:13 PM

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it is the hotness

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:14 PM

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aight, i'll try out c

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:14 PM

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I've looked into COBOL

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lol;

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:14 PM

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and if it explodes my brain, python it is

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:14 PM

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c after python may or may not be the best idea

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:14 PM

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really?

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:14 PM

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It's gonan be different, but you already understand a lot of CS Concepts

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:14 PM

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it'll be annoying even if not difficult

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:15 PM

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acoustic moss c after python may or may not be the best idea

but I am learning at the same time along with basics of programming

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:15 PM

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no one said it would be easy

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at least this go round bools and strings and ints make sense

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there's gonna be a few more

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but they'll fit in

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:15 PM

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python is spoiling me is what im saying

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:15 PM

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acoustic moss python is spoiling me is what im saying

true

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:15 PM

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acoustic moss python is spoiling me is what im saying

ahh

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:15 PM

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specially stuff like itertools

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Python does make things very human friendly

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:15 PM

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python is very simple and beautiful

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:16 PM

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agreed, but i really dont know what to do with python yet

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so might as well learn a new language

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Language should majorily depend on the work u want to do with it

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becoz there are many languages

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:19 PM

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fallen fossil agreed, but i really dont know what to do with python yet

but you don't know python yet

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and you don't know what to do in another language either

#

for real though, webdev is where it's at

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:19 PM

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surreal otter and you don't know what to do in another language either

major dilemma

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:19 PM

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rough sapphire Language should majorily depend on the work u want to do with it

currently am thinking of data science and ai, which should be python, and maybe web dev
netsec is another option

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:20 PM

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C is nice, but webdev lets you deliver your Python app to the world quickly

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and scale it

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:20 PM

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surreal otter for real though, webdev is where it's at

they should learn js then ducky_devil

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:20 PM

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https://theodinproject.com

Your Career in Web Development Starts Here | The Odin Project

The Odin Project empowers aspiring web developers to learn together

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The Ruby path is fun, Ruby is very Python like, but the JS path might be wiser for the future, thoguh rails is still rather popular

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:20 PM

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but i see many people in web dev, and im not very creative at designing web pages lmao

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:21 PM

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well then back end it is 🙂

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Yeah for web learn javascript

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:21 PM

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if you have no desire for it don't. C is a great choice

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BUT you can learn

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I see pictures all the time on reddit "Me 10 years ago: Trash, Me now: Photorealism" Obviously all fake and for the karma

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:22 PM

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surreal otter I see pictures all the time on reddit "Me 10 years ago: Trash, Me now: Photoreal...

lmao

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:22 PM

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but you can improve, you jsut gotta think about if it's something yo uwanna do, which it sounds liek it's not

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Why don't you want to learn more Python?

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:22 PM

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not sure, i see my friends using java, cpp creating all these cool apps whereas me whos been learning python for almost a year making at most a web scraper

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:23 PM

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  Basics:
    Variables
    Conditions - Chaining
    Operators
    Control Flow
    Loops & Iterables
    Data Structures
      Lists, Sets, Dictionaries
    Functions
    Mutable vs Immutable
    Common Methods
    I/O - Read/Write
  Intermediate:
    OOP - Classes & Objects
    Object Design Patterns
    Data Structures - AlgoExpert : Paid, find free
    Comprehensions
    Lambdas
    Collections
    Map & Filter
    *args, **kwargs
    Inheritance
    Advanced Class Behavior - Dunder Methods
    PIP
    Environments
    Making Modules
    Async I/O
  Advanced:
    Decorators
    Generators
    Context Manager - with
    Metaclasses
    Concurrency Parrallelism
    Testing - Unit Testing
    Test Driven Development
    Building Packages
    Cython - C Code that links with Python

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Of that list

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:23 PM

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really not sure what python is specialised in

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:23 PM

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How much do you not know

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:23 PM

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hm

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:23 PM

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It's a list I keep in my personal todolist, reminder if I'm ever bored of things I can look at

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:23 PM

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at advanced ig

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:24 PM

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surreal otter It's a list I keep in my personal todolist, reminder if I'm ever bored of things...

cool

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maybe i shld do that too

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:24 PM

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enjoy

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Bools and floats under data structures lemon_thinking

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:25 PM

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surreal otter How much do you not know

yeah i just left the concepts in the advanced section to learn

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:25 PM

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Yea, I'm not smart, never said I was

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:26 PM

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surreal otter Yea, I'm not smart, never said I was

never said you werent 🙂

surreal otter Feb 3, 2021, 2:27 PM

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fallen fossil never said you werent 🙂

Was talking to the other guy

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You won't regret learning C though

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I mean, you might while you learn it, but if you persevere, no regrets

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Everything I've heard about Java, from the community, is that people who work with Java hate their jobs

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YMMV but that seems to be a common theme everywher I listen

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and C# is just Java for Windows

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Maybe Java is actually the best thing ever, but since the big corps use it, and peopel hate working with it, it just sounds like evil to me

graceful basin Feb 3, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Java is quite nice

solid pollen Feb 3, 2021, 2:29 PM

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no

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:29 PM

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yes

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:29 PM

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😬

edgy crest Feb 3, 2021, 2:29 PM

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python

graceful basin Feb 3, 2021, 2:30 PM

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The most annoying things about java I ever found is the package conventions

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which don't matter all that much

royal lakeBOT Feb 3, 2021, 2:30 PM

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fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:30 PM

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surreal otter You won't regret learning C though

great 🙂 thanks

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:31 PM

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graceful basin The most annoying things about java I ever found is the package conventions

😭 confused on which language to learn now

graceful basin Feb 3, 2021, 2:31 PM

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just pick one

acoustic moss Feb 3, 2021, 2:31 PM

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#bot-commands message

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rip

graceful basin Feb 3, 2021, 2:31 PM

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https://wheeldecide.com/ put them into this website and spin the wheel

Wheel Decide

Can't decide? Wheel Decide for you! Set your own custom choices and then spin the wheel to make the random decision (lunch, movie, anything!)

mellow spire Feb 3, 2021, 2:32 PM

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lol

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:32 PM

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big brain

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im doin it

graceful basin Feb 3, 2021, 2:32 PM

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you can't decide if a language is worth learning without at least trying it out

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I make quite a few decisions this way

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:33 PM

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what is your personal opinion tho?

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it is what it is 👀

📎 unknown.png

graceful basin Feb 3, 2021, 2:33 PM

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C# is nice

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have fun!

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:34 PM

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definitely will

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time to lose all my brain cells

edgy crest Feb 3, 2021, 2:36 PM

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i am gonna gamble my life with that website jam_cavedude

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lemon_pleased

📎 unknown.png

fallen fossil Feb 3, 2021, 2:48 PM

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lmao

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best website ever creaeted

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great recommendation lakmatiol!

small fossil Feb 3, 2021, 5:16 PM

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speaking of rust

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my WASM media player is slowly coming to life

📎 unknown.png

edgy crest Feb 3, 2021, 5:19 PM

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thats in rust?

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dam thats cool

inland wolf Feb 3, 2021, 5:24 PM

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naisu

small fossil Feb 3, 2021, 5:25 PM

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tis surprisingly nice

inland wolf Feb 3, 2021, 5:58 PM

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yes

rough sapphire Feb 3, 2021, 6:25 PM

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took this photo randomly, good or bad?

📎 IMG_6267.jpg

rancid haven Feb 3, 2021, 6:38 PM

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some random user decided to send me a friend request
is this the magic of valentine's month? 👀

rancid haven Feb 3, 2021, 7:31 PM

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wth another one

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and with both of them i have this server as a mutual guild reee

calm dawn Feb 3, 2021, 8:05 PM

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suspicion intensifies

orchid hull Feb 3, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Your simply famous now

clear plume Feb 3, 2021, 9:51 PM

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It happens all the time unfortunately

crystal lodge Feb 3, 2021, 10:14 PM

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📎 -5ff4a80a01fe4cce.jpg

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Teeeeermite

mild abyss Feb 4, 2021, 12:35 AM

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small fossil my WASM media player is slowly coming to life

holy shit

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thats noice

mild abyss Feb 4, 2021, 12:35 AM

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crystal lodge

lol there is a queen

crystal lodge Feb 4, 2021, 12:36 AM

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That's a soldier

mild abyss Feb 4, 2021, 12:38 AM

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oh lol oh ye. if it is a queen, it should be fully large fat white

acoustic moss Feb 4, 2021, 3:17 AM

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isn`t this an approxtrophe

inland wolf Feb 4, 2021, 3:54 AM

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approxtrophe?

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interesting

edgy crest Feb 4, 2021, 4:04 AM

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its spelled as apostrophe right

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' and this is an apostrophe

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` is a backtick and not a valid english character

acoustic moss Feb 4, 2021, 4:39 AM

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` is almost a ', hence an approxtrophe

edgy crest Feb 4, 2021, 4:44 AM

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oh now i get what you mean by approxtrophe, i thought it was a typo

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py_guido

acoustic moss Feb 4, 2021, 5:14 AM

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one more one liner

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f=lambda s,l=None:(True if not(s or l)else(False if(l and not s)else(False if(s==')'and not l)else f(s[1:],(l+['('] if s[0]=='('else l[:-1])))))if l is not None else f(s,[])

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checks if () are valid

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>>> f('()))')
False
>>> f('(())()((()))')
True
>>> f(')(')
False
>>> f('((()')
False

rough sapphire Feb 4, 2021, 5:23 AM

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oh man lol

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this hurts to look at lol

acoustic moss Feb 4, 2021, 5:24 AM

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it's beautiful

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don't you dare

rough sapphire Feb 4, 2021, 5:24 AM

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oh it's beautiful

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but oh man does it hurt to read

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hahaha

acoustic moss Feb 4, 2021, 5:24 AM

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lol

edgy crest Feb 4, 2021, 5:54 AM

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i dont know if i should be happy or sad at the fact i understood the code RemiDespair

acoustic moss Feb 4, 2021, 5:54 AM

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happy

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f=lambda s,l=None:
  (
    True if not(s or l)
    else (
      False if(l and not s)
      else(
        False if(s==')'and not l)
          else 
            f(s[1:],(l+['('] if s[0]=='(' else l[:-1]))
      )
    )
  )
  if l is not None else f(s,[])

here's a slightly more readable version

edgy crest Feb 4, 2021, 5:55 AM

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did you use black to make it readable

acoustic moss Feb 4, 2021, 5:55 AM

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no

edgy crest Feb 4, 2021, 5:55 AM

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manually by hand? rip

acoustic moss Feb 4, 2021, 5:55 AM

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yes

uneven pine Feb 4, 2021, 6:26 AM

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Black tends to make those kinds of things one line

inner lagoon Feb 4, 2021, 6:59 AM

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rough sapphire took this photo randomly, good or bad?

For a moment i thought that was a spaceship lol 😆

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Whcich is better VSCODE or PyCharm?

uneven pine Feb 4, 2021, 7:40 AM

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Different programs for different purposes

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But I prefer vs code since it can be a fully featured ide for every language I use

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But also just a lightweight text editor when it needs to be