lol
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
inland wolf
grim blade
make it sound fancier than it is
rough sapphire
Is there any trading groups
inland wolf
thats pretty funny bro
inland wolf
yes
frozen thorn
is Fisher not a staff anymore?
frozen thorn
lol. I see him online but not on the list. weird
frozen thorn
lol
frozen thorn
Oof
frozen thorn
I just realized there is an airport near me
grim blade
@bleak lintel
frozen thorn
That's the third time lol. You might get in trouble
bleak lintel
!tempmute @grim blade 4h Let's not spam ping for roles.
royal lakeBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @grim blade until 2021-01-21 21:59 (3 hours and 59 minutes).
frozen thorn
special xD
frozen thorn
yes
solid pollen
Oh lord
acoustic moss
ikr there are far too less imports
edgy crest
python is all about third party libs 
narrow pecan
is this normal <:ugandawot:777996528483827713>
You could make some space between them 🙃
edgy crest
lol
narrow pecan
If you're using something like VSC, there's a plug-in to sort imports that'll do all the work for you
graceful basin
honestly, I feel like a lot of python libs have too many modules. We are in 20201, You can have multiple things in one namespace
narrow pecan
honestly, I feel like a lot of python libs have too many modules. We are in 202~...
But namespaces are one honking idea
Jokes aside, what's the issue with having multiple modules? I find it quite nice to keep things separated in logical ways like that
graceful basin
it makes imports needlessly complex and you have look up every other thing in the docs to find which module you actually import it from
it does make things easier for the dev, but you can just reexport in __init__.py
narrow pecan
Any examples of modules you think should be merged?
graceful basin
lark was one example which just annoyed me
django is large enough that I can kind of understand it
but even there it feels like you literally can't dev it in anything other than pycharm since there is no way you are finding the imports
from rich import Syntax, Console, Markdown
``` vsyeah, you can have your code nicely in modules, and reexport into a single module for the users
inland wolf
don't we do that?
narrow pecan
It makes a lot of sense in examples like that, but they might just be planning for scalability. It could get messy quickly if things are just all part of a huge class. In the rich example, it seems ridiculous to have to do that, but if someone were to import 5 console related functions as well, it starts to make a bit more sense
graceful basin
I really don't think "it may possibly be an issue sometime in the future" is a great reason to make your entire library less nice to use. Consider tkinter, which is a whole GUI framework and has one notable submodule, ttk which has multiple namespace conflicts with it.
the standard library does this well (except for etree for some reason)
nvm, lark wan't the annoying one
yeah, lark is good
from lark import Lark, Transformer
graceful basin
@lost vortex when you inherit from a class, you can change some of its methods. The compiler can then decide which to run based on the type at runtime.
lost vortex
<@319993807183544320> when you inherit from a class, you can change some of its ...
ahh that makes more sense, thank u
graceful basin
You can try searching around for some examples of it. If I remember, I will write up a few tmr when I am at a PC
lost vortex
alright awesome
lone cradle
send screenshot, prefereably (how do you even spell this?) in dm
simple sand
its not him losing his role its your discord glitching
thick surge
also whats up with lakmatiol losing the mod role?
monke got rickrolled
distant hedge
guys is using botclient allowed
tranquil orchid
no
distant hedge
pls send the link or line in tos where it says because a friend is asking where it says that you cannot use botclient
tranquil orchid
sure I'll find it one sec
distant hedge
and I put chrome on a pendrive from another pc and installed using pendrive B) nothing is better than chrom
rough sapphire
yo
simple sand
YO!
distant hedge
YOO!
acoustic moss
YOOO!
frozen thorn
YOOOO!
distant hedge
hehe sorry
frozen thorn
Technically, it's still a length of 7 lol
rough sapphire
lolll
narrow pecan
This channel must be very zen
solid pollen
Haha
inland wolf
lol
simple sand
!zen
royal lakeBOT
simple sand
We need to convert this into The Zen of lemon, by Python Discord
inland wolf
oof
lone cradle
ikr.
rough sapphire
is there a way to regex search a dm on discord?
simple sand
huh?
umbral sun
hey guys I dont' know if anybody is willing to help me out
on a bit on Javascript? I am working on a Webapp with Flask.
To get the user info and a googlemaps load I have to use
pure Javascript. This is what I got for my on click event
and it works just fine.
// Google Map initialize
function initMap() {
var map = new google.maps.Map(document.getElementById('map'), {
zoom: 10,
center: { lat: 47.2172500, lng: -1.5533600 }
});
document.getElementById('submit').addEventListener('click', function () {
var userQuestion = document.getElementById('userQuestion').value;
requestQuestionMap( map, userQuestion);
});
}
But when I try to add an addEventListener for the enterkey and prevent
default reload of the page it never works. I am probalby getting something wrong!
btw. my field for user search in HTML is a classic "input"
lone cradle
how do I resize an image in html while maintaining the aspect ratio
oak tangle
edgy crest
haha
rough sapphire
I rate it an 'more-than-halfway zen'
inland wolf
how do I resize an image in html while maintaining the aspect ratio
change only the height or only the width
lone cradle
I changed both the height and width together to maintain the ratio
yeah its good
thanks btw
inland wolf
wait so what did u do?
lone cradle
I changed both the height and width together to maintain the ratio
I changed the height and width both in equal proportions
<img> tag
simple sand
One Piece is so good, any of ya watched it?
simple sand
its an anime
its really good
I get such an intoxicated feeling when I am watching it
Its so good i can't describe it in words
rough sapphire
Anybody here familiar with Visual Studio and github?
thorn flower
hello
im having trouble running my dart code
this is my code
and when i click run it doesnt run anything
at all
inland wolf
try debugPrint instead of print
rough sapphire
Don't get it.
void grove
You can't have spaces?
rich moon
snake case with underscore would help
honest pawn
Don't get it.
Sorry, but this isn't java...
narrow pecan
Don't get it.
Did you manage to solve it?
rough sapphire
Don't get it.
use underscores if u want space
rough sapphire
Sorry, but this isn't java...
that’s python
calm dawn
I love writing code that writes code
lone cradle
hm. wot?
hybrid pivot
I love writing code that writes code
same
inland wolf
Sorry, but this isn't java...
i dont think u can do that in java either
lone cradle
noice
lone cradle
woah thats nice, I wanna pretend to be inux user, send link to these pics
ember bane
woah thats nice, I wanna pretend to be inux user, send link to these pics
you can right click and copy link
inland wolf
k
lone cradle
k.
edgy crest
oooo dwm
which compositor though?
picom?
also get a better bar 
more like cmatrix going brr lol
near island
@jade breach hey
Why'd u block me bro
lone cradle
lol
rough sapphire
using google docs how does the table of contents work? its just saying this currently
Add headings (Format> Paragraph style) and they will appear in your table of contents.
When i do that and reload nothing happends
honest pawn
I doubt any language allows spaces in variable names
Oh, I thought he declared a pizza class variable
And the variable name was "worker"
honest pawn
Don't get it.
I seriously thought he declared a Pizza named "worker," and the class Pizza was an extension of a string
acoustic moss
lol
honest pawn
Yeah ok, sue me
verbal glen
Can someone please explain the point of slack?
It looks just like Discord to me
but paid
topaz aurora
Can someone please explain the point of slack?
Different markets
Discord is geared towards communities while Slack targets the professional market
verbal glen
oh okay thanks
rough sapphire
hiiiiiiiiiiiii
lone cradle
hi bruv
rough sapphire
Eyo
rich moon
tabs and spaces matter
rich moon
oh
nova lagoon
@scenic lodge
rich moon
my opinon is that these little things distinguish between someone who simply writes code and someone who designs programs
a coder just cares about if the thing works or not and doesnt worry about if the program can be changed in the future
deep drum
except tabs and spaces can be formatted with the click of a button in modern IDEs and no sane software developer would give a damn about tabs or spaces
there's this scene in silicon valley where it's making fun of people who use spaces, and it's just the person hitting the spacebar 4 times
always annoyed me because... that's not what it looks like. it's just hitting tab but getting 2-4-8 spaces instead of a tab character. wtf
rough sapphire
Yep
floral viper
The best argument I have heard against tabs is that the tab length is not standardized across systems, meaning it might look different depending on your operating system and region editor/browser/whatever you are using to read the code
Shouldn't be an issue if you are one of those "works on my machine"-devs, but for someone that actually care about portability it matters
carmine jolt
Anyone ever felt like they wanted to date a programmer?
carmine jolt
well im 16 so i have time but
idk that'd be really cool to date someone who had the same interests as me
rich moon
maybe do some discovery
acoustic moss
ppl dont have lives
never before have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with
carmine jolt
im only interested in dating a girl rn (even though im a little into guys too)
but girls are like VERY outnumbered in this firled
rich moon
when u come to discord to talk about dating
carmine jolt
lol
rich moon
it as if u r asking the same question on reddit
frozen thorn
Try dating advices on reddit lol
rich moon
thinking that ppl who dont have lives have advice lol
carmine jolt
ehh i dont need advice
acoustic moss
ah yes r/relationship_advice
frozen thorn
^
acoustic moss
everything is a red flag
carmine jolt
but if there was like a programming dating app or something, I'd be fucked cause of the gender ratio in programming
rich moon
funny thing
carmine jolt
supply and demand
frozen thorn
Divorce/break-up is nasty. Can ruin your live. Hopefully I don't have to date lol. I prefer being single.
acoustic moss
bf gave you milk chocolate when asked for white? he's not for you
rich moon
and its literally doing some wack ml algorithm to match u with someone
carmine jolt
and its literally doing some wack ml algorithm to match u with someone
holy shit i wanna try that
i just looked that up
I wanna try the "dating by IQ" app too lol
rich moon
some wack sht made by some ppl at some eastern canadian university
carmine jolt
but the aphrodite seems cooler
rich moon
lmao ppl on reddit just complain their match ghosted them
idk what they were expecting
frozen thorn
If I wanted to date a programmer/cs major. I would ask someone out in some class.
carmine jolt
yeah i tried talking to this girl in my cs class once...
we were friendly but then she found out i liked her and she started acting much less friendly around me
frozen thorn
That's life
carmine jolt
and i found out she was lesbian 😬
frozen thorn
Oof
acoustic moss
lmao
carmine jolt
and we had had a group project together, and I was asking her to change this piece of code cause i was worried we'd get points off
frozen thorn
Reason why I don't date: I don't want to pay more taxes.
carmine jolt
and she hid me from her instagram story
and then she ranted about me "mansplaining coding" to her on it
acoustic moss
lol
carmine jolt
I found out from a friend
acoustic moss
rED flAg, yOU're beTTer Of wiTHout hER
acoustic moss
ok.
carmine jolt
rED flAg, yOU're beTTer Of wiTHout hER
ik, well i mean shes lesbian anyway so lol
carmine jolt
i would say some stuff but i might get banned
dm
frozen thorn
The more you are in a relationship, it is probably more expensive. Unless both of you follows Dave Ramsey's advice.
frozen thorn
Ah it's a reference thingy lol. He's financial literacy advisor. He have youtube channel.
You should watch some of his videos. They are funny. For example, a guy borrowed $300k for a tuba degree.
frozen thorn
I'm saying learn things from Dave so you don't make mistakes like these guys.
acoustic moss
tf is a tuba degree
rough sapphire
hello
uneven pine
Man I cannot stand googling for something and getting only results for python 2
clear plume
Just wait till it's like that w/ python4
haughty fractal
I had a question...
Can I alter BSD 2-clause or 3-clause licenses to add some extra clauses for identity protection?
Or should I make new licenses, rather than using license templates?
uneven pine
I just want to caputre IO in realtime from a subprocess.Popen
communicate is not real time
there are loads of solutions to it, but they're all python 2 and don't work for python 3
gahhh it's so close...
just randomly freezes
uneven pine
finally making progress, I had to subclass stringio
uneven pine
@blissful kernelVim isn't faster than anything else. It's all about what you're comfortable in
You can take a sample of vim developers, I'm sure I'm just as fast as them when I'm using what I'm comfortable in (VS Code) as they are in vim.
blissful kernel
It eliminates the mouse input for a lot of common actions
uneven pine
See, that argument is a bit of a phallacy
blissful kernel
I just use Vim bindings in VS Code though, I wouldn't dream of actually using Vim in a terminal for some big OOP thing
uneven pine
I've been programming for the past 3 hours straight in VS Code
and I haven't touched my mouse at all
save for browsing discord
you don't HAVE to use your mouse, in most cases it's not efficient
blissful kernel
As long as you're not using your mouse it's fine, it's just a preference at that point
but mouse v no mouse, no mouse defininitely faster
uneven pine
Just, editors like VS code have more sane bindings that aren't straight out of the 80s like vim
instead of spending a year programming at half the speed to learn the editor inside out, you can adjust what you need over time and keep your efficiency high
every single thing in vs code can be touched without the mouse
I'm assuming atom is the same
not sure about pycharm
blissful kernel
It is still nice to have though, vim is on literally everything
uneven pine
I don't think you can do that with sublime though
blissful kernel
so you reliably have a text editor to do things even in the worst case
or over an ssh connection
uneven pine
but yeah, for the folks that did do that to themselves, vim bindings are available for everything
even emacs, though vim bindings for emacs defeats the purpose of emacs if you ask me
blissful kernel
It's fine really, I don't really remember why or how I learned vim
I was pretty young when I did and I don't know if I would have considered it a good use of time if I learned it now
I didn't have much better to do when I was struggling through vim bindings
I also willfully forgo the built in terminal output in VS code most of the time, and the vast majority of the features that aren't intellisense
mostly because I don't feel like learning it though, not because it's bad
uneven pine
I'm very feature locked into vs code these days
blissful kernel
It's a very good editor, it's also what I use
uneven pine
the test running ui is amazing, I use intellisense, intellicode, pylance, and the python plugin extensively
There's no substitute for that combo, in ANYTHING, not even pycharm
plus the added benefit of I can use extensions to make it an IDE for all the languages I work in, which unfortunately is a lot of different lanugages
blissful kernel
Yeah, and it's on every platform as well
uneven pine
any given project I might be using Python, Rust, C, C++, C#, Java, Kotlin, JavaScript, or TypeScript
blissful kernel
it's very versatile and the configs are very portable
uneven pine
Occasionally some Assembly or Fortran as well
blissful kernel
Jump between Windows and Linux a lot and it's nice to have largely the same dev environment
uneven pine
Language server support for other editors can get close, but the autocomplete is never as good as vsc makes it
blissful kernel
other than Powershell being kind of stinky
blissful kernel
It's definitely a lot better than it used to be
I just hate that it has aliases for unix commands and then only goes halfway
uneven pine
to match my development environments between operating systems I use a bunch of microsoft stuff
Editor: VS Code
Shell: Powershell 7 with oh-my-posh3
Browser: MS Edge Chromiun
Terminal: ExtraTerm
all these work on Windows, Mac, and Linux flawlessly
and the browser also runs on both ios and android
so every single device and environment I have runs the same stuff
basically only possible with microsoft products these days
blissful kernel
embrace, extend, extinguish
uneven pine
there aren't really many other shells that support windows
there's this one called elf but it seems kinda garbage
That's the old Ms
Satya Nadella has done great things and is still doing them
they're more of a service provider than an OS vendor these days
edgy crest
powershell is ok
blissful kernel
I enjoy the alternatives / competition for all that software more than Microsoft's offerings though
with the exception of VS Code
acoustic moss
there probably are extensions in vsc for vim/emacs keybinds
blissful kernel
Yes there are and ^
It works alright for the most part
I just can't get into a groove at this point without vim keybindings
blissful kernel
and for a good hour after I stop I'll be trying to navigate web pages with vim keybindings lmao
edgy crest
theres qutebrowser which has vim keybindings
blissful kernel
nah I can live without browser keybinds
I just use my mouse for the second monitor usually
uneven pine
I would love to have zshell on windows
blissful kernel
and it messes me up when I switch my browser over to my primary monitor
uneven pine
that would make me so happy
blissful kernel
it's the vim monitor
uneven pine
But there hasn't even been an attempt at it, apparently
and I do not have the time to try to port a shell to windows
edgy crest
you can get zsh through wsl right? 
uneven pine
yes but that's not running on windows
nothing on windows is available through it
WSL is fairly isolated from your windows system
lone cradle
what is the joke behind this ot name
solid elbow
WSL is fairly isolated from your windows system
WSL 2 is somewhat isolated, since it's in a VM, but WSL 1 is still fully supported and not isolated in any meaningful way.
You can run explorer.exe from zsh on wsl and it'll work
There's some tricky stuff related to the filesystem - you shouldn't edit files created from WSL using non-WSL tools.
uneven pine
yeah see, it's all too weird and tricky
and path-related issues
javac --version shows no javac from wsl
it's not worth trying to deal with just for zsh when powershell is a great shell
rough sapphire
how to claim a help channel?
solid elbow
WSL should get the same PATH environment variable as powershell gets
solid elbow
how to claim a help channel?
#❓｜how-to-get-help has instructions
rough sapphire
thanks
solid elbow
I can't imagine working on Windows without Unix tools available. WSL is my daily driver.
rough sapphire
@solid elbow agree
so hard leaving windows
i just learned little bit python
ultimately the only thing that ties me to windows is Ableton
and ive tried double booting but it makes me less productive, as im too lazy to switch so i end up disregarding whatever i do on the other OS
windows is good for compatibility
wdym?
windows has nearly all of the programming apps
what are the programming apps?
topaz aurora
So does Linux to be fair
rough sapphire
So does Linux to be fair
Visual studio 2019
solid elbow
It's much easier to program on a Unix environment than a Windows one, imo
topaz aurora
Windows dominates the gaming/creative market
rough sapphire
the thing linux does beat is being lean
all my other machines are some kind of it and i just push the on button and they are up
problem with linux is audio imo
only thing that windows need is linux terminal but you can download tho
you can have a working terminal, maybe even run x apps using sth like cygwin
but its not the same
solid elbow
You can get a terminal through wsltty and X apps through VcXsrv
topaz aurora
First-class support for Msys2 is interesting
rough sapphire
You can get a terminal through wsltty and X apps through VcXsrv
yeah but my point is you still got these moments where the whole computer locks because its updating
you can also enable something in the windows control panel and then you just download any linux terminal from microsoft store
yeah thats wsl
oh
ok
how long are yall programming python?
solid elbow
On and off for about 9 years
acoustic moss
python? a couple of months
topaz aurora
I started I think at 3.4, so about 5 or 6 years ago, started taking it seriously these past two years
Although I haven't done anything significant in Python for the last few months
rough sapphire
damn i just started yesterday
acoustic moss
which ide are you using?
rough sapphire
pycharm
acoustic moss
hmm good enough 😄
simple sand
only thing that windows need is linux terminal but you can download tho
uh no?
downloading things in windows so much more work and pain than unix, overall i find unix much more convinient than windows for programming at least
rough sapphire
only if its in the package manager
i never used linux so i cant really comment
tar is a pain
imo in terms of developing its almost the same in any OS, of course leaving aside compatibility tier stuff, but i dunno if this one applies to python
the big point linux has in its favor is the sense of ownership of your machine you can get, for example, how it allows you to revive seemingly dead old machines
simple sand
imo in terms of developing its almost the same in any OS, of course leaving asid...
its not, in windows you have to open up the git bash to acess whereas in unix you can access it through anywhere, and it was such a pain downloading pipenv in windows.
and you also have a different shell for postgres and you can't access it through anywhere.
i don't think you have access to that paths on windows either
rough sapphire
you can use WSL for that though
So basically in linux you control the system but in windows system controlls you??
Lmfaooo
Jkjk
for example i got an old beat up netbook that came with win 7, could barely run it, took ages to load a web browser, and as time went by it got worse as websites got more and more loaded with js
nowadays it runs lubuntu with no x, which isn't even the leaner you can get
simple sand
you can use WSL for that though
but that's not out of the box and you also have to through the trouble of getting it installed and stuff.
Also does it take space?
rough sapphire
but it basically does all i want to do with it, turns on instantly, etc
rough sapphire
but that's not out of the box and you also have to through the trouble of gettin...
i dunno how much space it takes, i suppose some, it also isn't that fast, its not a VM as far as i understand, (WSL2 is i think), but its still slower than it should
however its very very easy to set up
as @rough sapphire said is just clicking a thing in settings
simple sand
VM are very bulky and slow
rough sapphire
agree
rough sapphire
this thing is just a terminal that has an (almost) exact kind of linux machine
you can chose distro
not any distro
but i remember you had some options
graceful basin
it is performant enough that you can run emacs in it through x tunneling and program in it fine
graceful basin
the one thing where I found linux significantly easier was setting up latex
rough sapphire
or if you try going into some files
graceful basin
and well, if you for some reason want to use languages that refuse to support windows, like crystal
rough sapphire
i would assume that kind of stuff works under wsl?
a way of explain it, is that wsl is a kind of reverse wine that works better
graceful basin
crystal probably does, but it does complicate things somewhat, since for example running a webserver in wsl and accessing it from a native browser only works sometimes
rough sapphire
mmm
i had no issue with the sharing of networking between wsl and the rest of my machine
graceful basin
I had it break randomly multiple times
rough sapphire
you are using wsl 1 or 2?
rough sapphire
ah, i dunno then, i went for 1 for the file system back and forth
i mostly just use it for vim and cron
meaning shell scripts mostly
graceful basin
I had it for emacs, and trying out crystal, but nowadays I just dual boot
though driver issues are a pain which I CBA to solve
rough sapphire
i dual booted for a while, but i like using ableton
i found out i couldn't figure out how to make keygens and vsts work on wine
acoustic moss
hitting levels of ping that shouldn't even be possible
rough sapphire
and im not ready to spend 1k+ usd for them all
maybe when i can pay for my hobbies id switch to linux
i actually tried to fashion a makeshift solution with an lcd screen, a midi controller, and an arduino, but i fucked up the soldering
and i realized bill gates is my god and i should just accept my submission to him
quiet carbon
maybe when i can pay for my hobbies id switch to linux
I have used GNU/Linux for 8 years now. currently uses Arch GNU/Linux and i dropped windows 10 completely after i heard of the privacy nightmare windows 10 is.
It's really easy to get the hang of
maybe not arch, but you get the jist
if your a person who cares for privacy, don't use windows 10 as it tracks every little thing you do and sells it even if you turn personalization off
rough sapphire
@quiet carbon i agree
and i use it in all but my main machine, but like i said, $$$
for example, if i could have two good machines, and had a bigger living space, id have a machine for music, and a linux machine for everything else
or, if i could pay for my hobby, id just run my music stuff over wine, or have hardware for it
and just use the computer to record
quiet carbon
for example, if i could have two good machines, and had a bigger living space, i...
i see. you can also dual boot
rough sapphire
i used to do that, but i found out i ended up procrastinating, either id not do music stuff, or i did not do work stuff
just cause i didn't want to reboot
topaz aurora
Virtualization 
rough sapphire
the problem with VMs is the power of the machine
for example, say i VMd windows on linux
topaz aurora
Yeah, that's understandable
rough sapphire
usually a musical project starts light, but as it gets complex you end up having to up the sample rate
quiet carbon
i used to do that, but i found out i ended up procrastinating, either id not do ...
ah. do you make music?
rough sapphire
in a VM that means that beyond a 64 sample size, the delay between microphone/controller and the monitors becomes too large
rough sapphire
ah. do you make music?
yeah, thats my main hobby
uneven pine
in a VM that means that beyond a 64 sample size, the delay between microphone/co...
Hell I have specialized hardware and the delay is still an issue
quiet carbon
yeah, thats my main hobby
i'm trying to get into that. I purchased a Roland Juno DS 61 synthesizer
but the drivers are only for WINDOWS
and MAC
rough sapphire
Hell I have specialized hardware and the delay is still an issue
in windows 10 right now the delay gets bad after 512
rough sapphire
i'm trying to get into that. I purchased a Roland Juno DS 61 synthesizer
hell thats a nice synth
quiet carbon
hell thats a nice synth
my uncle had a mini moog BUT he got rid of it
rough sapphire
nice
quiet carbon
i was sooo damn mad when i learned he had one
rough sapphire
hahah
rough sapphire
yeah, i think its mostly about the filter
quiet carbon
rough sapphire
but thats just from what ive heard
quiet carbon
this thing was 800 dollars
rough sapphire
that juno
quiet carbon
yes
rough sapphire
you use for midi?
quiet carbon
it is the smallest one
rough sapphire
or audio?
quiet carbon
you use for midi?
not yet, i'm waiting for my grandpa to bring massive pioneer speakers on the 29th 😂
quiet carbon
if its not too old they should have an usb
they have both
rough sapphire
there's midi to usb cables
i have one
they sometimes get confused
but you can make it work if you go slow
quiet carbon
oh btw, my hands are tiny and my finger is broken and healed and never set so you can imagine me playing it 😬
rough sapphire
hahaha
quiet carbon
pinky finger*
rough sapphire
you play piano?
quiet carbon
you play piano?
that is my piano basically
rough sapphire
yeah but i mean, i got a couple keyboards, but im a drummer lol
quiet carbon
i want to get to the point where i play the wanamaker organ
quiet carbon
i either send midi to them, or hit them kinda erratically
ever seen the world's largest musical insturment?
rough sapphire
big church organs usually imply both arms and both legs
quiet carbon
big church organs usually imply both arms and both legs
they always do
quiet carbon
big church organs usually imply both arms and both legs
you might find this interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98KYMpBx9og
my dream maniac job would probably be this 😂
quiet carbon
ive seen that haha
quiet carbon
i have a similar vid
our church has a pipe organ, and it's huge
rough sapphire
you live in a big city? ever gone to the opera?
quiet carbon
you live in a big city? ever gone to the opera?
st. louis, but i DOUBT there is any here
rough sapphire
ah man thats some crazy shit
quiet carbon
the organist was going to teach me then he got covid
rough sapphire
hahaha
quiet carbon
(i assume he didn't die)
rough sapphire
covid fucked shit up
i actually had made a whole rebudgeting math
i had decided in early 2020 that i would start going to two places
quiet carbon
i was going to go to a motley crue concert
rough sapphire
every wednesday id go see classical music in the big city opera place
rough sapphire
and every saturday id go see techno at the best techno place in the city
i also decided i was gonna learn to fly airplanes
then like a week after i made all the math
a sudden killer virus hit the world
quiet carbon
i also decided i was gonna learn to fly airplanes
oh hey, my uncle owns a plane and his son owns 3
a 1955 cessna skyhawk
rough sapphire
lol nice
the one i had worked around was a piper
i dunno what kind of plane is it
quiet carbon
i'm hoping to get it when he dies (no wish intended)
quiet carbon
piper cub?
my cousin owns a piper cub
and a piper supercub
and a piper cheyenne II
rough sapphire
piper 172 i think was the one at the airclub
cant say more though, i dont know shit about planes
just thought it was sth i wanted to do
and i finally had money to pay for it
quiet carbon
@rough sapphire i actually got to ride on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSja4qYQp-c
not my video
quiet carbon
i got to see this twice
rough sapphire
the one i had found i could learn with
quiet carbon
rough sapphire
just have two seats in front and two in the back
hhahah b29
makes me remember the right stuff book
rough sapphire
flytime is expensive as hell
lime leaf
bruh the weather in korea is so weird
its literally january but its average 10 degrees (celcius for the americans out there) wtf??
lone cradle
oh damn
surreal otter
Korea is also surrounded by water
lone cradle
my geography knowledge go brr
lone cradle
thanks for the info dude
surreal otter
so Korea should have comparable weather to LA / SF
lone cradle
beside*
lone cradle
ooh
acoustic moss
lmao
lime leaf
lol imagine if it was below australia
lone cradle
bruv, I said beside*
olive pawn
👋
honest pawn
What about single space indentation?
honest pawn
!e
def haha():
print("ha ha single space indent go brrr")
while True:
haha()
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
rough sapphire
while true loop forever 💀
delicate garnet
Guys, was wondering. Is making super fast forwarded video an effective way to store space on video data? So if the footage wants to be rewatched it can just be slowed down to 1x or something, instead of 50x
green pecan
what about no indent? In fact, no newline!
haha=lambda:print("ha ha lack of newline go brrr");{haha()for _ in iter(lambda:None,0)}
Unless you can make it so you don't lose information, I don't think there's any added benefit space-wise
kindred sorrel
If you make it 50x faster, you're just increasing your framrate by 50x. The total number of frames is the same, so there's no size difference
If you take only 1/50 frames, you're losing 98% of information
urban sphinx
ok
urban sphinx
so i wanna get linux on my chromebook
brazen ingot
Ohk
urban sphinx
soi can get python
brazen ingot
cool
brazen ingot
soi can get python
do you have python?
brazen ingot
do u got a good tutorial is what im asking
yes i got
mild abyss
do you have python?
yes. i have it in my backyard
brazen ingot
which version @mild abyss
mild abyss
which version <@!674261595710291980>
3.8.6 & 3.9.1
brazen ingot
3.8.6 & 3.9.1
oh twof them cool?
mild abyss
mhm because pyenv
delicate garnet
Unless you can make it so you don't lose information, I don't think there's any ...
damn
mild abyss
why?
delicate garnet
If you make it 50x faster, you're just increasing your framrate by 50x. The tota...
was hoping I could compress the videos somehow, they're like 10+ gbs rn
mild abyss
vivax is watching you
@timid latch <-?
mild abyss
sadly idc ¯_(ツ)_/¯
rough sapphire
Do you still have this question? @rough sapphire #help-candy message
I figured out a significantly more effective way to do it for what I needed, but the question still stands I suppose.
I don't understand generator expressions too well.
Thinking about it now, could I just convert that generator expression to a list, and then index the list?
yes
but you could also just use
!d next
royal lakeBOT
rough sapphire
next(offer["user"]["displayName"] for offer in trade_data["offers"] if offer["user"]["id"] == self.user.id)
rough sapphire
Centrist indentation 👀
what?
The ever-so-existent debate of 2 vs 4 spaces
ew
i indent with 4 zero width characters
for _ in range(2):
print(1 + 2)
might not be able to tell, but that is indented
Beautiful
7```Oh my god, it's a good way to spend your evening
lol
acoustic moss
```>>> print(len('1+2'))
7```
wait what how
lone cradle
```>>> print(len('1+2'))
7```
its 3 right
rough sapphire
I'm sorry what
graceful basin
I wonder if you could traverse the entire program's variables and replace all strings with those weird ones
royal lakeBOT
acoustic moss
aah
rough sapphire
OH that is what is going on here
lone cradle
somebody explain
rough sapphire
very strange unicode is at play here meaning logic has gone out the window
graceful basin
You can get even get 2 seemingly identical strings with different lengths due to different ways of representing accents in unicode
let me get a simple example
rough sapphire
^ unicode is pure magic to a beginner such as myself
this message hit the ratelimit of messa
wait, will the bot send it
graceful basin
!e
print('oldřichu přines řeřichu' == 'oldřichu přines řeřichu')
``` no zero width spaces here.@graceful basin :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
False
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
rough sapphire
why does your terminal display it?
acoustic moss
¯_(ツ)_/¯
graceful basin
most terminals use a mono font
rough sapphire
also, discord breaks when i try to copy the message id
graceful basin
which is mono for everything
rough sapphire
oh
acoustic moss
if anyone asks me help for hw I'm definitely sending my code riddled with these from now on
watch them suffer
epic
rough sapphire
Damn
graceful basin
there are multiple such characters, so you could hide arbitrary code in innocent looking strings
why is hello world program 189KB in size?
rough sapphire
could you give an example?
graceful basin
sure, give me a bit
rough sapphire
like, how would you hide print(2)
graceful basin
you would need an evaluator
raven birch
shows up in cmd lol
What's going on here, is someone goofing around with ZWSP chars again?
acoustic moss
yep
rough sapphire
Someone has been, yeah 😄
I'm not sure what I'm looking at really
I feel sorry for the next person looking at #bot-commands
acoustic moss
rip
raven birch
Someone has been, yeah 😄
tHiS mEsSaGe iS 2000 cHaRaCtErS lOnG 
that kinda stuff?
rough sapphire
lol
acoustic moss
tHiS mEsSaGe iS 2000 c...
so that was a fkn lie
I feel betrayed
raven birch
so that was a fkn lie
It wasn't actually, it's because the emoji is actually stored as !SpongeMock
acoustic moss
ah ok
raven birch
There's an 18-character code which tells Discord where to fetch the image from, and the angle brackets to represent a special object in the message
acoustic moss
:SpongeMock:
simple sand
long message
raven birch
...
left-to-right marks aren't zero width
acoustic moss
wtf lol
graceful basin
!e
from collections import defaultdict
s = 'Hello World'
exec(int(s.translate(defaultdict(str, {0x200B: '0', 0x180E: '1'})), 2).to_bytes(2000, 'big').strip(b'\0'))
@graceful basin :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
2
you could probably sneak this in somewhere
lone cradle
guys I want you to listen to "save your tears" its my favourite song now and Its stuck in my head, I listened to it the first time yesterday
twin charm
I already know that song, its pretty dope
lone cradle
Hehehehehehehehehehe
hm?
lone cradle
I think you also know that song
lone cradle
Surprised that none of you found it yet
oh lol
lone cradle
damn
brave dock
No
twin charm
Hehehehehehehehehehe
lol even my father said that he liked that song
probably a scam, want me to call mods?
good.
lone cradle
probably a scam, want me to call mods?
what did he send?
twin charm
I dont think I wanna tell, he was asking to dm for free perks, it included credit card number or something he just asked to dm for it.
lone cradle
ooh
twin charm
I found a fool proof plan to prevent my lil bro from using my discord acount
lone cradle
and that is.....?
solid pollen
Logging out?
twin charm
changed the password to open phone
simple sand
What font do yall currently use while programming?
lone cradle
consolas
solid pollen
Default haha
lone cradle
default is what?
finite sierra
dunno but i like it too
brave dock
What font do yall currently use while programming?
Whatever comes pre-installed
solid pollen
The default
finite sierra
both vsc's and pycharms defaults look nice i think
lone cradle
yea that default font must have a name r8
simple sand
Oooo
simple sand
both vsc's and pycharms defaults look nice i think
NO?
VSC default looks ugly as f
lone cradle
NO?
VSC default looks ugly as f
wtf
twin charm
NO?
VSC default looks ugly as f
bruh
brave dock
NO?
VSC default looks ugly as f
gr8 b8 m8
lone cradle
no u
finite sierra
idk looks pretty clean i think
lone cradle
this is pycharm
finite sierra
this is vsc
twin charm
yea its pycharm i think
simple sand
idk looks pretty clean i think
that wasn'tthe one i was talking about
lone cradle
this is vsc
no, thats not the default
twin charm
pretty sure you changed it
finite sierra
ive changed themes but never the font
twin charm
does it change with themes as well
do you use colour theme in vsc or no?
lone cradle
it doesnt change
finite sierra
it's not a default theme, it's called one dark pro i think
hidden pebble
Pycharm's syntax highlighting is not that good
simple sand
wait leme get which I thought was the default theme.
lone cradle
dark pro is an extension? coz extension can be colour theme and font also
finite sierra
its probably that then
twin charm
hmm
finite sierra
where do i check the font?
lone cradle
afaik colour theme changes dont change the font
lone cradle
where do i check the font?
settings or something
press ctrl + shift + p
and type font
finite sierra
bruh that's times new roman or something lmao
simple sand
the default theme?
finite sierra
and definitely not the default
lone cradle
bruh that's times new roman or something lmao
yea arial or someshit
finite sierra
it looks like its from ms word
simple sand
wait that's not default?
I thought that was default
lone cradle
something u see in microsoft word lol
finite sierra
this is what i see in settings for me
lone cradle
it looks like its from ms word
I thought the same thing!
lone cradle
this is what i see in settings for me
yea consola
twin charm
its consolas for me as default
simple sand
I am currently using Fira Code Light and its pretty sick
lone cradle
vsc?
simple sand
font
lone cradle
I am currently using `Fira Code Light` and its pretty sick
its for vsc?
twin charm
he said that he uses pycharm dude
lone cradle
oh
simple sand
and i just downloaded hack so leme try that
lone cradle
'hack' is a font?
simple sand
yes
twin charm
oh lol
lone cradle
wierd
simple sand
edgy crest
fira code is all i need 😌
twin charm
I use the 'monokai' theme
simple sand
Yep I love Fira Code Retina
lone cradle
I use the 'monokai' theme
default of vscode theme is my fav for html,json, and for python i use monokai too
simple sand
I use the 'monokai' theme
I use tokyo night
edgy crest
I use the 'monokai' theme
hmm, monokai's fg is ok i guess but its bg is not good
edgy crest
the only brown bg theme i like is gruvbox
and thats because other colors of it match brown too
but monokai is like rainbow on poop
lone cradle
monokai isnt brown per-say
twin charm
its like black with a lil brown mixed you wont even know the difference
lone cradle
I didnt roast your colour theme did I? vinam
lone cradle
but monokai is like rainbow on poop
LOL
edgy crest
I didnt roast your colour theme did I? vinam
i never told you not to
lone cradle
but monokai is like rainbow on poop
atleast your colour theme matches that explanation, monokai isnt even brown
simple sand
Tokyo Night is really slick
edgy crest
atleast your colour theme matches that explanation, monokai isnt even brown
when did i say i use gruvbox though
edgy crest
Tokyo Night is really slick
it is, though i like the darker version of it which is material ocean
lone cradle
when did i say i use gruvbox though <:KEKW:628249422253391902>
lol I didnt say that you use gruvbox smh
lone cradle
<@!799998705465950249> then what theme did you mean
idk, I just wanted to roast your theme even though I didnt know what it was (you also gave permission to roast)
acoustic moss
I just use defaults everywhere lmao
simple sand
it is, though i like the darker version of it which is `material ocean`
IMO they are almost the same
edgy crest
yeah
edgy crest
idk, I just wanted to roast your theme even though I didnt know what it was (you...
well these are the colors i am using and i dont see brown anywhere
and let me show you monokai
the whole bg is clearly brown
lone cradle
top right isnt monokai
only the top left one is the correct
I didnt know you became colour blind? 🤔
twin charm
I didnt know you became colour blind? 🤔
oh thats enough
simple sand
isn't monokai the 10th one starting from the top?
acoustic moss
row 2 column 1
simple sand
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
5 | 6 | 7 | 8 |
9 | 10 | 11| 12 | 13
are you talking in python terms? row0,1,2
acoustic moss
yes
lone cradle
```
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
5 | 6 | 7 | 8 |
9 | 10 | 11| 12 | 13
```
i see it now
idk what hacked version of monokai ur using
twin charm
its not monokai?
lone cradle
its not that brown lol, filter added
edgy crest
yeah it is
simple sand
ye
edgy crest
idk what hacked version of monokai ur using
the theme you are using is some stray monokai
narrow pecan
well these are the colors i am using and i dont see brown anywhere
You should try the pydis color scheme haaha
simple sand
nah its my old pc so i won't bother
edgy crest
You should try the pydis color scheme haaha
you mean the hastebin one? thats just solarized dark
edgy crest
heh wat
simple sand
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/464905259261755392/802567987562938368/u...
Which one is this?
lone cradle
the theme you are using is some stray monokai
wdym stray?
edgy crest
i dont like taht one sorry 
simple sand
wdym stray?
not the normal monokai
edgy crest
wdym stray?
"hacked" version of monokai
acoustic moss
lmao epic uno reverse
lone cradle
"hacked" version of monokai
sublime text comes with the monokai theme as default, its hacked monokai or no?
twin charm
I didnt know you became colour blind? 🤔
ok so hence proved?
lone cradle
ok so hence proved?
yes
simple sand
ok so hence proved?
Proved what exactly?
lone cradle
rgb of monokai is less than 75,75,75
twin charm
so?
lone cradle
brown is more than 75,75,75
twin charm
lol bruh no
lone cradle
it is dude
edgy crest
so you are telling me this isnt brown, idk who is colorblind here
lone cradle
so you are telling me this isnt brown, idk who is colorblind here
this is grey right
edgy crest
omg
twin charm
this is grey right
kinda grey
simple sand
that is not grey
twin charm
but not the real
lone cradle
that is not grey
ok dude thats fine with me
simple sand
it looks dracula
lone cradle
lunar midnight right?
yea is it?
just asking, cause it look familiar
@west zephyr
oh shit nvm
lone cradle
ok send friend request
twin charm
yea sent
narrow pecan
Pretty pretty
ruby fox
who uses 3 space for intendation?
acoustic moss
Hmm
lone cradle
?
ruby fox
gang is here
lone cradle
> supa-hot-fire-meme-oh-wow-woah-gif
hey how do you have this grey bar on the left side
twin charm
|| ||
twin charm
I saw that @ruby fox
lone cradle
so did I
stark prawn
So did I :#
ruby fox
I was testing Github annotations work here
twin charm
\> text here
well how did you send this without it coming
acoustic moss
\>
stark prawn
escape characters yey
twin charm
oh those are like f string
twin charm
wait a sec
solid pollen
I sent this message using
twin charm
< heh
solid pollen
\\> heh
twin charm
\heh
twin charm
||< heh
solid pollen
And I sent this one using
ruby fox
hey grote, are you old MOD or new MOD?
twin charm
\<heh
acoustic moss
shtop
solid pollen
\\\\> heh
acoustic moss
shpam