All of them are breaking changes
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
solid pollen
scarlet wind
lol
uneven pine
Yet nothing is visibly broken?
solid pollen
Well, try to install any big library like numpy
and tell me if they work flawlessly
uneven pine
Only breaking issue I’ve had was the numpy Windows update issue
I don’t exhaustively use numpy but in my limited use it’s working fine
Again from day 1
solid pollen
Alright, from a quick random search, this is because of the update to 3.8 https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/11451
uneven pine
Just from the embed I see that it is an issue with not having wheels
Just need to build from source
Not a breaking change
uneven pine
This is an expected part of being a developer and I already had the build tools
uneven pine
Man installing these packages is taking forever
sand inlet
@plain radish to answer your next question: you almost certainly meant time.sleep, not sleep.time 
plain radish
oh ok
proud patrol
hOw Do I cAtCh FiSh WiTh PyThOn?
livid sandal
make a fish catching game with Python!
@proud patrol
proud patrol
Thank you
livid sandal
How do I uninstall Github Desktop
just uninstall it
aren't there other folders associated that will be left behing
...
lol
i much prefer apps with a proper uninstaller
proud patrol
If you have a shortcut on your desktop you can find it's path and uninstall associated folders and files.
acoustic wraith
.
fringe creek
@acoustic wraith so what do you need this gpu for lol
acoustic wraith
Well
Since i tried to play warzone on my 1050TI and other battleroyale games
And some RTS games
I noticed that my FPS is around 40 fps
And that's bad..
So
Mostly on games
fringe creek
oh lol
acoustic wraith
Beside programming.
acoustic wraith
can i manage to sell 1050TI for around 100e ?
cosmic ravine
wait until there's enough stock of the new GPUs and grab a cheap used 2060 super
acoustic wraith
wait until there's enough stock of the new GPUs and grab a cheap used 2060 super
I don't like Revision GPU's
Just new
cosmic ravine
beggers can't be choosers
acoustic wraith
I don't beg lol
rough sapphire
acoustic wraith
Just asked for suggestion
fringe creek
can i manage to sell 1050TI for around 100e ?
probably not tbh, 1050tis don't go for much these days
acoustic wraith
Hm, alright.
cosmic ravine
I sold a 1050 ti last year around this time for 75 bucks, so... yeah, 100 is out of the question :P
fringe creek
you might be able to get 75
acoustic wraith
So 5700xt you say ?
acoustic wraith
- discounts for holidays
cosmic ravine
I'd rather go with nvidia, to be honest. but you do you.
acoustic wraith
Are discounts better on black friday than on christmas ?
fringe creek
I'd rather go with nvidia, to be honest. but you do you.
why is that?
acoustic wraith
I'd rather go with nvidia, to be honest. but you do you.
Same
I like nVidia more
But they are expensive af
fringe creek
Are discounts better on black friday than on christmas ?
yeah black friday is like basically meant for just discounts
cosmic ravine
these new ones are really good, but the 5700/xt ones have/had driver issues, issues with heat and just a "meh" experience all around
fringe creek
these new ones are really good, but the 5700/xt ones have/had driver issues, iss...
they fixed all the driver issues like a year ago lmao, and the heat is based on what model you get, not the actual gpu itself
if the model has a shitty cooler ofc itll get hot
acoustic wraith
@cosmic ravine Which one would you suggest by nVidia ?
fringe creek
i find it better not to just get stuck on a certain brand and rather find the best price to performance
fringe creek
<@!214506823619837962> Which one would you suggest by nVidia ?
used 2080 super
that would technically be better, but idk if you'll be able to find any good deals
acoustic wraith
Idk, im not that into "used" cards.
cosmic ravine
like I said, I'd wait for people to be able to buy the new cards (when stock arrives finally) and get a cheap "old" generation one, but you don't want used, and I'm not sure how much they'll fall
fringe creek
^
cosmic ravine
but yeah, 2060 super or 2080
acoustic wraith
Last time i took used one, i had problems with it.. constantly crashing
fringe creek
yeah you probably just got scammed lmao
acoustic wraith
Yeah ikr
fringe creek
yeah, the only ones that are a good value new are the 3000 series but theyre impossible to get
there's a rumored 3060ti but nvidia hasn't confirmed it and it probably won't happen lol
yeah if you can somehow find a 3070 in stock and can get the $500 to pay for it that would be awesome, but unlikely
fringe creek
amd honestly crushed nvidia with theyre 6000 series cards
acoustic wraith
Well, i suppose its time for brand changing.
fringe creek
in overclocking leaderboards the 6800xt which is 650 beat the sht out of most 3090s
in terms of total performance lmao
umbral pecan
scenic blaze
umbral pecan
lmaooooo
narrow pecan
Don’t tell the kids
rough sapphire
son_exist = False
young shoal
python is like the only lang with capitalized booleans
graceful basin
brisk locust
python is like the only lang with capitalized booleans
Haskell
True
False
XD
C as well
#define True 1
#define False 0
😛
@young shoal
https://www.rosettacode.org/wiki/Boolean_values
I think you'll like this 🙂
tall canopy
frozen crane
I don't know why anyone would want Python with braces
versed saffron
python has semicolons?
mild apex
I mean Python indentations are sort of acting like braces
your keyboard has semicolons
Python already has semicolons, it's just optional
midnight dirge
I thought Python always had semicolon? Though it's not necessary and probably discouraged
pseudo barn
I think you posted that in the wrong channel lol
golden walrus
I've seen some semicolons in the standard library for stuff like do_something(x); del x
quick bay
someone made python mashed with js
cosmic ravine
"some people just wanna see the world burn"
golden walrus
I think Nekit added braces to Python using the tokenize* module
tranquil orchid
You can use semicolons but chances are you shouldn't be using them
golden walrus
the fun thing about Python semicolons is that the parser chokes if they're not after an expression... including an empty line. Fun compared to other mainstream languages, at least:shell $ python -c ';' File "<string>", line 1 ; ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax
frozen crane
hard no from me. Semicolons add nothing if you were going to use a line break anyway.
golden walrus
but you can't write ;_; in the REPL, which is sad
frozen crane
!e
_ = 1
_;_;
royal lakeBOT
@frozen crane :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
[No output]
people don't have 2 mouths
royal lakeBOT
@frozen crane :warning: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
[No output]
WHAT NOW
cosmic ravine
I think the kids would say "get rekt" now or something
frozen crane
golden walrus
$ node
Welcome to Node.js v15.3.0.
Type ".help" for more information.
> ;_;```no problem in nodebut I just did it in python
tranquil orchid
Because python is happy
golden walrus
but 1) that's not the REPL 2) if you try to do that in the Python REPL you'll get several lines of garbage
frozen crane
!e
͜ = 1 \
;͜ ;
@frozen crane :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | File "<string>", line 1
002 | ͜ = 1 \
003 | ^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid character '͜' (U+035C)
ugh so needy
rough sapphire
I'm having such a weird bug with manjaro. If I boot straight into manjaro it doesn't want to actually use a driver for my wifi. Since I dual boot windows I boot into windows and back into manjaro and no problems
I thought python supported unicode characters?
golden walrus
!e open(True, 'wb').write(b'Hi\n')
royal lakeBOT
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
golden walrus
I thought python supported unicode characters?
it does, but not all of them
you can't use emojis, for example
I'm not sure what the rules are, I suppose that character does not count as "a letter" but as a diacritic or whatever it is
distant hedge
lol no mods work in #discord-bots
hollow fern
!e
var="test"
for t in var:
if v="t":
await ctx.send(v)
royal lakeBOT
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
rough sapphire
<@!182894631921516545>
https://www.rosettacode.org/wiki/Boolean_values
I think ...
i mean I USE ROSETTA CODE FTW
rough sapphire
!e
var="test"
for t in var:
if v="t":
await ctx.send(v)
but u didnt ue code snippet
!code
royal lakeBOT
scarlet wind
but u didnt ue code snippet
it works without it also
livid sandal
im usually dark mode on everything
but unusually light mode looks cool
simple sand
The only reason I don’t like light mode is that it hurst my eyes
stone eagle
!e ```py
if True: (
print(1)
)
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
rough sapphire
im usually dark mode on everything
but unusually light mode looks cool
same
proper minnow
if i wanna upgrade my computer to be able to run games and junk with graphics settings that i could toast marshmallows on, should i upgrade my gpu or my cpu first~?
im thinking gpu for obvious reasons, but im also thinking like, i'll prob need a decent cpu to make everything good in the first place (if thats even how it works.)
ancient stream
What is your current hardware?
gentle moss
tbh modern CPU's are more than capable of handling most stuff for games
as generally the workload for games is offloaded onto GPU's
as long as your CPU isn't hot garbage, a GPU is a better upgrade for pretty settings
CPU as a videogame bottleneck has become less of a thing
rough sapphire
true, but if the GPU is much newer than the rest of the system you have problems with bus speed, ram speed, etc.
if you dont want to buy an entirely new box with optimized components you could go sony and buy a playstation
gentle moss
eh, if your mobo supports a new gen GPU then it'll work fine
it's not like GPU's will go "oh, i'm in an old PCIe system, i'll just reduce how many channels i use."
if the rest of your hardware is old it's vital you check a few things
- your mobo's PCIe version
- your PSU's power connectors
RAM speeds haven't been relevant to gaming performance in quite a while
since the memory controller went on-die and GPU's started sporting gigs of GDDR, RAM performance is pretty low on the priority list
rough sapphire
i disagree, but to avoid escalation i give you a thumbs up and move on
sand inlet
@torn walrus ...if data collection is the world's greatest problem then collecting useless data about people whose data isn't useful is actually good 
since it puts random stuff that isn't useful into the same systems as stuff that can be used for bad stuff
sand inlet
well they might think it's useful when really it isn't
torn walrus
I think its a HUGE problem
Even tho some parts of the data collection is useless
most of it isnt
floral viper
I'm pretty sure most of the international corporations have better ideas on how valuable data is than some rando on the interwebz
torn walrus
and they have enormous influence over our elections
Facebook had an enormous role in the 2016 and 2020 election
You should all watch 'The Social Dilemma' on Netflix
sand inlet
well if someone's data is useless, you shouldn't be telling them not to let their data be collected
they should put the useless data completely out there so that everyone will collect useless data and be a bit less efficient at causing a huge problem
i know most people's data (according to you) is useful, but for the people who aren't influenced by internet ads and stuff, and aren't particularly interesting for any other purposes, ...
floral viper
Thing is, uninteresting people can be used to get to interesting people
torn walrus
They collect data by tracking what we do on Facebook (and outside: https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-clear-history-offline-activity-tracker-tool-how-to-use-2020-1?r=US&IR=T). So if we wanted to trick them, we'd have to have a MASSIVE global campaign that made us waste hours on our phone that we didnt like doing?
rough sapphire
guys, do u know why youtube's interface changed yesterday?
torn walrus
i know most people's data (according to you) is useful, but for the people who a...
Its also about addiction. We're addicted to our smartphones and the hormones it releases
sand inlet
none of this has to be massive
a small amount can have a small effect
if one person contributes some random data that's not going to do very much but it does make the entire process a bit less efficient
torn walrus
I dont understand. Your solution to companies knowing everything about you is to change the people? Why not go after these MASSIVE corporations that benefit billions of our addictions?
oak tangle
Just link those people who appear to have random data to technology ads. They're probably all techies with an interest in data collection.
torn walrus
If you have facebook click here: https://www.facebook.com/off_facebook_activity/activity_list
Its what facebook knows about you
Scary, isnt it?
sand inlet
i think if you want an absolute solution to this you need some kind of absolutely huge force
torn walrus
We need data regulation yes
sand inlet
either a massive quantity of people, or a large very restrictive new law, or... something like that
one random person is not going to have a solution
torn walrus
Ofc not. We need laws in place
to protect vulnerable and exploited users
(everyone who has facebook: https://www.facebook.com/adpreferences/advertisers/?entry_product=information_about_you)
sand inlet
honestly i don't think it's necessarily just vulnerable and exploited users who could benefit from enough laws that companies will give up on data collection
anyone who's just mildly concerned about data collection will no longer have to go through the annoying processes that some sites require to opt out of cookies
torn walrus
Sure. By vulnerable and exploited users I mean every single user btw.
sand inlet
torn walrus
U might think im overreacting
sand inlet
ok i don't think every single user is vulnerable and exploited
torn walrus
but im rly not
torn walrus
ok i don't think every single user is vulnerable and exploited
Do you have Netflix?
floral viper
Ironically GDPR is what requires websites to use these annoying popups with opt out options. Companies chose to implement it in the most annoying way possible to the user because they really didn't like GDPR
sand inlet
tbh i think any true existential quantifier over the set of all humans is almost required to be something trivial like "every human being is a human being"
anything else can probably be found to be false if you just think about an unusual enough case
torn walrus
I didnt understand that. Do you have Netflix?
sand inlet
there's nobody with a name that's hundreds of characters long? what about Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert Irvin John Kenneth Lloyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy Randolph Sherman Thomas Uncas Victor William Xerxes Yancy Zeus Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorffwelchevoralternwarengewissenhaftschaferswessenschafewarenwohlgepflegeundsorgfaltigkeitbeschutzenvorangreifendurchihrraubgierigfeindewelchevoralternzwolfhunderttausendjahresvorandieerscheinenvonderersteerdemenschderraumschiffgenachtmittungsteinundsiebeniridiumelektrischmotorsgebrauchlichtalsseinursprungvonkraftgestartseinlangefahrthinzwischensternartigraumaufdersuchennachbarschaftdersternwelchegehabtbewohnbarplanetenkreisedrehensichundwohinderneuerassevonverstandigmenschlichkeitkonntefortpflanzenundsicherfreuenanlebenslanglichfreudeundruhemitnichteinfurchtvorangreifenvorandererintelligentgeschopfsvonhinzwischensternartigraum Sr.
you can't have multiple personalities in one brain? i've met people who do
torn walrus
What are you talking about rn
sand inlet
people seem to consistently underestimate how variable the set of absolutely everyone is
torn walrus
Okay, I'd like to rephrase. 97%.
sand inlet
"this applies for every element of set X" is stronger than people know
ok that is a lot more believable
torn walrus
You're comfotable with that?
sand inlet
i can't actually verify it but it's not obviously false anymore
so yeah ok let's go with that
torn walrus
Are you comfortable with huge amounts of data being collected for the 97% of the users of facebook (close to 2bn I think)
*2.7bn monthly active users
sand inlet
that is... not good 
...although i still agree with my original statement that you have barely addressed, that someone in the 3% or whatever of people who would not be adversely affected by data collection should actually be encouraged to share that useless data because if enough people do that it will start to make the systems work less well on the rest of people
torn walrus
I think it's weird and unrealistic how you phrase it. Data is super personalized. Your likes, dislikes. But also how long you look at each thing in your feed. How often they can send you ads that isnt too often. There is a reason why Facebook is free.
Sure you can be weird and screw your facebook up
like the republican party as a democrat
but it'll only affect you
sand inlet
there are people whose data cannot usefully be used against them and it's near-useless
torn walrus
Those are the vast minority. How many % has multiple personality disorder?
sand inlet
a vast minority does not mean nobody
even if a very small number of people have multiple personalities, they still exist
torn walrus
but it only affects their feed
sand inlet
well if they either will have a feed, or won't
is it not better for them to have a feed that is absolutely useless and will not do anything
and divert some computational resources that would have been used on people who would actually be affected
torn walrus
I guess?
So your idea is to have anyone who suffers with multiple personality disorder screw their own facebook feed up, and divert som resources?
sand inlet
worst case is that it affects nothing, in any other case it has a positive impact, the overall expected value of this can't really become negative
torn walrus
How is that better than regulating this industry
sand inlet
well not people with multiple personality disorder, people who wouldn't be affected by data collection
they're just both groups that are uncommon but still exist
sand inlet
How is that better than regulating this industry
this is not a replacement for regulating things
...one particular person will start doing this, and everyone else will not change
do you claim that this has an overall negative expected value
if it doesn't, why not do it?
torn walrus
...one particular person will start doing this, and everyone else will not chang...
doing what? fking up their own feed?
sand inlet
well just, allowing data to be collected about them
data that won't actually be useful because by definition this is a person whose data is not useful
if they allow data to be collected about them, they aren't going to be affected (we're assuming that), and there's no way it can have a negative impact on anyone else
so there isn't really any reason to not do that
torn walrus
I guess?
sand inlet
right, so there you go
that was my original point and you agree with it, apparently
now i'm going to sleep 
torn walrus
good night! Im also going to sleep
tranquil orchid
At the very least you'll probably want to change your discord password
rough sapphire
my discord closed
tranquil orchid
So that they can't access your discord account
rough sapphire
i forgot my discord password
tranquil orchid
But your computer also probably has a virus so that may be redundant
tranquil orchid
Then sounds like you're out of luck
rough sapphire
damnnnnnnnnnnn
tranquil orchid
If you have any antivirus software run that
If not
I guess just save the stuff you want and reset your pc
tranquil orchid
Wouldn't have a clue
rough sapphire
uh
my pc files are dleeitng
how is this happening
im not controlling
or doing
tranquil orchid
Because you have a virus
rough sapphire
anything
what should i do
my friend told me to delete system 32
should i do that
manic bloom
yea, don't do that
wise turtle
i got 37 words per minute
tranquil orchid
oh boy
wise turtle
is that bad
tranquil orchid
yes
wise turtle
ik
wise turtle
whats yours
wise turtle
wow
tranquil orchid
Colemak I'm sitting at about 70 atm
wise turtle
any errors tho
wise turtle
i had 0 errors
tranquil orchid
Colemak my accuracy is real good though
wise turtle
so yeah
tranquil orchid
two errors so not to bad
wise turtle
i feel like i type way slower when im actually trying to type fast lol
when im just casually coding or writing then i am way faster
eternal wing
NICE! I tried one and it was not good, I need to practice (not colemark btw)
tranquil orchid
My qwerty speed has probably deteriorated a bit lol
I should just switch to colemak full time at this point
I'm fast enough now
aight colemak mode
bleak lintel
yoooo typing test time
rough sapphire
<@!574009401044893697> If you want a typing test try monkeytype
ooo monkeytype is amazing
i've been using it for weeks now
bleak lintel
rough sapphire
joe
bleak lintel
this is pretty slow for me, but it's 2AM lol
tranquil orchid
I've been using it pretty much every day for at least a few minutes to practise colemak
bleak lintel
rough sapphire
rough sapphire
a wild mudkip has appeared.
Throws pokeball at it.
i used to be able to do 150
but haven't typed in a while
bleak lintel
it's certainly something
bleak lintel
that's nice
rough sapphire
i just have a tkl qwerty lol
rough sapphire
joe
bleak lintel
mudkip
bleak lintel
ahh
rough sapphire
since you track message content with metricity, can you make one of those graphs where the word used most often is largest
rough sapphire
you don't?
tranquil orchid
rough sapphire
damn
bleak lintel
the whole point of metricity is that we don't, lol
rough sapphire
wdym point?
rough sapphire
yeah
"Message contents may be cached internally in the bot, however we do not make use of this data."
oh
i did not read this part i guess
but damn that graph would be cool
i wonder if the largest word is "python"
bleak lintel
https://www.zsa.io/moonlander/
lol
tranquil orchid
Just a lil bit 👀
rough sapphire
$365 wow
rough sapphire
ergonomic keyboards are certainly expensive
bleak lintel
I should probably like
not have a macbook air
before I start doing down this route
lol
tranquil orchid
Same
I'm building a pc soon
Finished getting all the parts for the computer a day or two ago
terse sluice
hey!
tranquil orchid
Bought the monitor today
So just gotta wait for that to get here then I'll be all set
tranquil orchid
noice
tranquil orchid
Holdon I got a photo somewhere I think
Nothing to insane but a solid first build
bleak lintel
I think 2:20am is a good time for bagels
terse sluice
samsung ssds 👌
tranquil orchid
So that's pretty good for 500gb of nvme m.2
bleak lintel
bloody hell
terse sluice
that's a very good price
tranquil orchid
The 1660ti I also got for a real nice price
I think it was 360-370
For some reason they've been really cheap recently in Australia
rough sapphire
Nothing to insane but a solid first build
i think that's my case, nice
bleak lintel
wew
rough sapphire
i have a 1660 as well, it's not a ti tho, just a super
tranquil orchid
yeah the case is nice
rough sapphire
what's the processor?
bleak lintel
rough sapphire
rip
terse sluice
oof
rough sapphire
where is that from
tranquil orchid
join the club
bleak lintel
my macbook hahaha
rough sapphire
o lol
bleak lintel
lol
I mean I've only ever used it when contacting apple support
so probably not
terse sluice
rip dual core
tranquil orchid
I've been putting off my projects for a while until I built my pc
I was attempting some ML stuff
Pretty sure my macbook would have blown up
If I continued
sharp gulch
lofty dirge
I'm meh about them
I'm not a Mac user but I think ARM has hit "Good enough" point
I think it's more about Apple Profit then "User Experience" they are selling
but yes, initial bookmarks look like it's not murdering the user experience
mild abyss
damn why even palemoon exists lmao
@tranquil orchid you can use google collab for ML stuff
tranquil orchid
ik
But I wanted the visuals as well
Which I can't really use it colab
As well as it just being more convenient to have it running on my own pc
And as I was going to be building a pc anyway so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Figured I'd just wait
mild abyss
you can
rough sapphire
custom one's?
mild abyss
if the test server has it yeah
rough sapphire
oh ok ty
rough sapphire
sharing a song
eternal wing
I'm waiting
rough sapphire
I am waiting for a emote
can't find a matching one
whatever, there is a lil bit of japanese 
eternal wing
Nice, very much not my taste xD but not bad
rough sapphire
control spotify from cmd
give those commands some keyboard shortcuts and you can play pause skip from any workspace
solid pollen
That's cool
edgy crest
simple sand
what are doubles?
topaz aurora
Let itself use the default
solid pollen
Yes
topaz aurora
You can do git rm file.py and it'll stage a commit that removes that file
It's still viewable in previous commits however
Might want to check your git config
rough sapphire
git config -l
uneven pine
license.txt is the standard I believe
simple sand
so if you were to make a language using python how would u declare keywords
solid pollen
Like a DSL in Python?
simple sand
no,
So if you were to make a language using python, how would u declare keywords in python for that langauge
solid pollen
Well, it will depends on your parser
solid pollen
If you want to make a new language, you'll need to parse it at some point, right?
simple sand
mhm
rough sapphire
it is true in some sense
when you start training some ML model you start at some random point and then fastly converge to the best fit solution
the fastness comes from the power of the computers that we have today
scenic blaze
I keep meaning to pick up machine learning but idk if I can just “pick it up”
strange goblet
i3 10100f or ryzen 5 3500x?
ancient stream
Hey think 60 bucks for a dell optiplex 380 is good? WOuld it be a decent server?
rough sapphire
I keep meaning to pick up machine learning but idk if I can just “pick it up”
if you spend some enough time you will know what to do :)
scenic blaze
I think at the very least I’d like to adopt some of the principles into my algorithmic development
Hell I adopted some election practices into my algorithms lol
rough sapphire
I think ML algorithms will be most prolly be blackboxed
scenic blaze
True
rough sapphire
unless you grind down to implement them on your own
scenic blaze
Yeah unless I go back to school for it probably not lol
uneven pine
Basic machine learning is pretty easy to get a grasp on
tranquil orchid
I'm considering getting that Neural Networks From Scratch in Python book
Looks pretty good
And the basic neural nets I've made from scratch so far haven't seemed to work out super well lol
So might be a worthwhile read
viscid hemlock
Damm it's heartbreaking when you want to change to your new name, only to find out it's taken by an 8/9 year old account....
BluePhoenixGame...
jesus I hate that
I can add 2 after, like I have in some places. But it looks rather, unprofessional
manic bloom
same for me with google account
viscid hemlock
Yeah that's always a rip
It's like, fine, when it's at least used.
Like, sure it's not wasted
But when it is 🙃
floral viper
a pull request is when you request your git branch to be merged into another branch
usually when you merge your changes to master or similar
graceful vortex
so first you clone and then modify then pull request?
I contributed to a github repo once with a pull request but i really dont understand still
rich moon
usually u fork
floral viper
you make a commit then I believe you issue a pull request
graceful vortex
so git add git commit then pull request?
graceful vortex
YES
so pushing to remote repo is "forking"
I remember having a "forked" repo which is basically a clone to my own repo
rich moon
forking is making a copy of someone elses repo and placing that in ur account
graceful vortex
right which is different than cloning because clone is just downloading to my computer right?
fork is clone + push to my new repo
rich moon
uh fork doesnt clone
graceful vortex
no?
rich moon
it just makes a copy in ur account
graceful vortex
ok; so i fork it then change it then pull request it?
rich moon
clone will make one into ur computer
graceful vortex
I feel like the naming conventions are bad in this
floral viper
git is designed by kernel devs, of course the naming is bad lol
but you sort of get used to it after a while
rich moon
there is like a difference between what is on ur computer and what is on the remote
rich moon
fork is basically saying i want a copy of someone elses repo on my account
so i can make some personal changes
cloning is copying a repo from the cloud to ur computer
graceful vortex
right because you can't make changes to someone elses repo
rich moon
it could be a repo u forked or the original repo
graceful vortex
well first you would fork then clone to your computer
rich moon
usually ppl fork then clone it bc u cant directly push to someone elses repo
unless u r added
and when u make a PR it basically saying to the owner, i made some changes see if they are good
and if they are good add them in
graceful vortex
That is how basically people contribute to open source right?
graceful vortex
Wow thanks!
rich moon
then make changes on ur computer
once ur done with changes
u push to remote repo that u forked
then u make PR to the orignal repo
graceful vortex
then click the pr button right
graceful vortex
Thanks alot! I followed instructions once but i understand it conceptually now
i did this 2 times but once they got upset because i didnt write tests with the code
so normally pull requests require tests + code
floral viper
depending on the project they might require you to verify that your code works
if you are adding new functionality it is good practice to add tests for that functionality if they have automated tests running on the repo
rich moon
some of them have guidelines on what to do
cuz they want to keep the remote with code that is not broken
topaz aurora
.ec lemon
median domeBOT
narrow pecan
Lemons are great
topaz aurora
.ec joe
median domeBOT
topaz aurora
lol
narrow pecan
.ec 
median domeBOT
eternal wing
oof, that is a mega 
edgy crest
do 60 seconds
tranquil orchid
not terrible
edgy crest
you are getting better and better with colemak
quick bay
1 mbps download speed is great!
quick bay
i live nw na
it only does this to me at night
i should stop downloading games at night
quick ledge
"nw na"?
quick bay
northwest north america
quick bay
during the day i get about 60-100 mbps
quick ledge
that sucks man
well, download shit in the morning then
will contacting your ISP do something?
quick ledge
Jiust typed 110 wpm for the first time yeayyyyyyy
damnnnnn, that's amazing
simple sand
thx
manic bloom
I consistently get about 170-200
quick ledge
oh wait
quick ledge
I consistently get about 170-200
this isn't wpm? lmao
quick ledge
those speed is tasty and i am fine with 50MBps
50MBps? which is 400mbps?
mild abyss
oh yeah i am on 10Mbps i am sad
quick ledge
how much do you pay?
azure crag
Jiust typed 110 wpm for the first time yeayyyyyyy
Woah that’s littttt
manic bloom
this isn't wpm? lmao
mbps
quick ledge
haha ok
rough sapphire
Hello, what is firebase used for plase?
runic wigeon
Hello, what is firebase used for plase?
this is a offtopic channel, I guess you should be asking this question in #python-discussion
edgy crest
you can go off off topic
narrow pecan
Dude whattttt
mild abyss
my typing speed using ten fingers is around 50wpm
simple sand
my first type of the day lol
tranquil orchid
Lets see how much my qwerty speed has deteriorated
mild abyss
Lets see how much my qwerty speed has deteriorated
you mean your muscle memory
scarlet wind
Macro how many pfp do you change everyday
simple sand
isn't that the same
mild abyss
Macro how many pfp do you change everyday
as long as there are thicc waifus in this hellish world, i will always change pfp
😩
scarlet wind
lol
boreal swift
I thought today was Monday since yesterday
sand inlet
in python, all "primitive" data types are passed "by value" (str, int, float), and all "structures" are passed "by reference" (user-defined classes, tuples, lists, dicts...).
so to pass a primitive type by reference you must put it in a larger structure, like a containing class
@weak dock just wanted to let you know: that's not really true, absolutely everything is passed by reference, just for immutable things it's quite hard to tell
>>> def test(x):
... print(id(x))
...
>>> x = 257
>>> y = 257
>>> id(x)
1913168506608
>>> id(y)
1913175864080
>>> test(x)
1913168506608```
chrome atlas
Can anyone help me out in #help-lemon
frozen crane
@chrome atlas please don't ask for people to come to your help session in a bunch of channels. If someone's available to help, they'll check the active help channels and stop at your question.
eternal mesa
manic bloom
I'm terrible
manic bloom
yes i guess
gentle moss
i think it's also good to remember that the average typing speed is like 40-45wpm
i think they say "professional" typists average ~80wpm
quick bay
i have a learned typing speed of about 58. and i don’t have a need to go faster
gentle moss
yeah, i didn't even grow up learning to type properly or even doing typing tests
just shit posting on IRC for a long time. average around 90 - 120wpm now
i think the more important part is touch typing rather than speed
uncut socket
How long does a help channel stay up if no one comes to help?
gentle moss
it's such a crutch to have to look at the keyboard
uncut socket
Or can you keep bumping it
rough sapphire
I dont look at the keyboard while typing, but dont touch type either
Somewhere in the middle
gentle moss
help channels close every 15 minutes, idk about bumping it. we're also typing about typing in here atm, so ongoing conversation.
as long as i can find my home keys i'm alright
quick bay
i type normally without looking at the keyboard but then occasionally have to look down for characters.
gentle moss
special characters come later than the rest really
as you have to leave the safety of your hand clusters
a barren waste of hashes and quotation marks
quick bay
yeah. i’m probably like the slowest coder ever because of parentheses
i learned both an american and spanish keyboard.
it was not smart
gentle moss
oof, moving layouts is rough
i try to keep to the UK ISO layout
big enter button is king
boreal swift
New icon 
tame shadow
hello, I can convert ai to html. How can I convert back?
I mean http://kilo.epizy.com
dire viper
tame shadow
I created an ai file, than I accidently saved and closed after I edited it
before closing I got it as html
can I get my .ai file back by using .html file
mild abyss
ddddeuuuuuudeeeeeee
rough sapphire
Oh hello everyone
tame shadow
hello
tame shadow
can I get my .ai file back by using .html file
I really need that file, nobody knows about it?
rough sapphire
Sorry, I only know that .ai files are Illustrator files and nothing more
Although
I would presume that HTML-to-SVG/AI is possible
@tame shadow
tame shadow
I would presume that HTML-to-SVG/AI is possible
but how?
I am searching for 30 mins and I have got nothing
rough sapphire
I assume you could rename the file type from .html to .svg, open it in Illustrator, and then save an AI file from that?
@tame shadow
rough sapphire
You're welcome!
rough sapphire
Apparently yeah
thick musk
nerd
young shoal
?
thick musk
¯_(ツ)_/¯
manic bloom
well hello from dvorak. I just switched, and dang i'm slow
sly flame
dvorak always seemed appealing but I could never bring myself to commit to switching.
manic bloom
anyone know what is better, devorak or colemak?
sly flame
I imagine that would be heavily subjective, wouldn't it?
frozen thorn
No idea. How did you commit yourself to learn devorak or colemak? I'd give up after a day lol
frozen thorn
Oh I see
manic bloom
i feel I will move over to colmak rn
seems better
@young shoal what is ur opinion?
since u use colemak
solid elbow
every recent study I've seen says that Dvorak users are either slower than qwerty typists or just a few percent faster. Dvorak may have some benefits for preventing RSI, but it doesn't seem to have any typing speed benefits.
floral viper
@polar knoll
frozen crane
!ban 626165598384291847 Antisemitism
royal lakeBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @junior sphinx permanently.
frozen crane
<@!683001325440860340>
remember to ping the moderator role rather than the modmail bot. thanks!
iron juniper
does anyone know if its a good idea to keep a vpn running 24/7 on ur pc?
floral viper
remember to ping the moderator role rather than the modmail bot. thanks!
Aight, first report I've made so I wasn't sure. But I will do that next time 😄
iron juniper
I dont want my school spying on me lol
rough sapphire
You can customize your keyboard inputs?
calm dawn
Does anyone else ever wish that GitHub tracked how many times your repositories are cloned?
Not who cloned them, but how many times it has happened.
topaz aurora
@calm dawn You should be able to see that on your repositories Insights tab
calm dawn
<@!712017143998447767> You should be able to see that on your repositories Insig...
Well I'll be darned... Thanks!
Look's like I'm a lot more popular than I thought!
simple sand
wow 100% acc
eternal wing
idk how I got this speed tbh, but I'll take that as a personal beset haha
simple sand
wanna race?
eternal wing
that is too much pressure for me LOL
simple sand
https://play.typeracer.com?rt=24u74vt2hi
@eternal wing
manic bloom
i'm typing at 5 wpm
eternal wing
LOL
manic bloom
cause first hour on colmak
eternal wing
ohhh, nice nice nice
simple sand
you leave the race and join again
manic bloom
legit have to switch to qwerty for texting
frozen thorn
ez
eternal wing
Ouch, that is a good song I got though
simple sand
this is fun
eternal wing
and LOL, these ' are throwing me off
simple sand
i just can't type fast with quotaionts
frozen thorn
My fav
edgy crest
i am coming too guys
eternal wing
haha
edgy crest
simple sand
i got 3rd
eternal wing
who you think 😏
frozen thorn
Nice
eternal wing
haha, it is still good practice regardless
edgy crest
frozen thorn
eternal wing
I was at like 30 wpm when I took a typing class
edgy crest
eternal wing
years of casual typing has gotten me to like 80-90 wpm
quick bay
i avg about 60
frozen thorn
Haha I got 1st
simple sand
oh second
rough sapphire
:{
eternal wing
yeah, this pressure is getting me
frozen thorn
You probalby need to work on " ' , etc.
eternal wing
I am 80-90 if I am doing almost all lowercase with minimal punctuation LOL, so no really fair
simple sand
like that i am 100
frozen thorn
It was a real race lol
simple sand
1st
eternal wing
noice
frozen thorn
ffs I got 3rd, cuz I misunderstood . as a comma many times.
simple sand
this is fun
eternal wing
saaaame
simple sand
yikes
eternal wing
idk what happened
frozen thorn
A tie? lmao
simple sand
i got so bad
frozen thorn
Dude it's a draw
eternal wing
lolol, that is awesome
frozen thorn
That's why it's frozen lol
eternal wing
dude, we beat the machine haha
eternal wing
thats probably enough for me, my fragile fingies cant take any more
eternal wing
lol, you should practice typing all week, then destroy us next time
frozen thorn
Dude, I got a typo alert. That's why I was behind
frozen thorn
🙂
rough sapphire
you guys are insane
simple sand
well we wait 20 seconds
frozen thorn
or not
frozen thorn
haha I have been typing like this for 5-6 years.
simple sand
i mean its only 3 ppl lol
edgy crest
at least i got close
simple sand
ok last race then gotta go
eternal wing
my hands are actually really tired LOL
frozen thorn
I'm lucky that I took a computer class in high school.
simple sand
eternal wing
in my computer class in hs, the teacher would play 80s lovesong type pop music the whole time and it was horrible
frozen thorn
lmao. My teacher would've reduct points for typing error.
simple sand
bruh i meant to do Ctrl + backspace but i did ctrl + +
well cya
gotta go
that was fun
thx for that
eternal wing
haha, ty for invite
edgy crest
ye same it was fun, now my fingers hurt
frozen thorn
Rip, I couldn't find my magical gloves that make my fingers type faster.
Is it just me, or this chat's dead. Cuz my Wi-Fi's slow today.
edgy crest
frozen thorn
That's not magical.
frozen thorn
lol
frozen thorn
Too powerful
tender silo
flexing on us peasants with nitro 😔
tender silo
oh wait can we send gifs here
frozen thorn
I'd delete that lol
tender silo
that aint bad tho is it
frozen thorn
Not to me
frozen thorn
Nice. Btw you can add gifs as your favorite so you can use it later.
tender silo
yes the ones i sent previously were saved as my favorites 🙃 lul
frozen thorn
lol. so do you know react?
frozen thorn
no lol.
tender silo
oki
frozen thorn
I'm talking about JS framework. Random question tho
tender silo
shit. smart stuff
im leaving lul
frozen thorn
I see
eternal wing
the chat is never dead as long as I am lurking
react is the best JS framework out there and chat is not active enough to change my mind
frozen thorn
I agree with you even though I just started using render stuff lol
I figured, why not learn more on freecodecamp after I installed nodejs, react, npm start etc. I just coded a nav bar with react.
eternal wing
awesome! I have spent like 3 hours now working on a sidebar navbar thing for my portfolio site haha
simple sand
css is hard
frozen thorn
lol I coded with html/css for years.
You will be fine with w3schools or Mozilla docs haha
eternal wing
yeah, css still annoys me somewhat often though
edgy crest
react is the best JS framework out there and chat is not active enough to change...
even an active chat cant argue with the fish lord 
what is fel typing for so long 
frozen thorn
I was going to build website with html/css only, but I realized that it would take a lot of html codes just to make the blog cards lol. I'm learning react, to figure out how to code multiple blog cards with JS faster.
Sometimes I'm slow and sentences didn't make sense lol
frozen thorn
Ya just learnt about components but I can't come up with ideas how to do it on my own lol. I need to learn more about the compenents.
edgy crest
wait fel are you an adult 
frozen thorn
Hmm yeah
edgy crest
oof
frozen thorn
Why? lol
edgy crest
nvm
frozen thorn
100% correct
Fisher. What do you use for front-ends? HTML/CSS + JS or React? Or other framework
eternal wing
but yeah, react is nice. i need to better learn how to use components together
frozen thorn
It will be a bit of challenge to learn how to add multiple pages
frozen thorn
I don't even know plain JS like DOM stuffs. I could look it up if I wanted to, but React is easier for this.
Btw I noticed time are slower today lol
Usually it's like 11pm or later right now
eternal wing
same for me actually, I woke up earlier and got a lot done.
And yeah, it is good to learn that dom stuff imo, but you really dont need any of it with react afaik.
react is really easy to get into, i cant say Im very good with react, or even really "ok", but I can make stuff with it haha
edgy crest
i wonder how can i search for eyes in a picture and do something with it 
i also wonder how hard it is gonna be
frozen thorn
I wonder if I need to build a database for blog title, summary, paragraph etc. If I had to build it on my own, it would be in an array in JS lol.
Probably SQL
eternal wing
i wonder how can i search for eyes in a picture and do something with it <:Koish...
you can probably do this with a simple youtube tutorial by now. It is not very difficult with the large number of tools available
edgy crest
i c