can someone help ?
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
rough sapphire
young shoal
i do not know haskell
but probably the easiest way to see if it is correct is to see if it works
rough sapphire
hey
rough sapphire
Nope
low chasm
Oh, academies of loudoun
rough sapphire
I'm in the USA
low chasm
Same
rough sapphire
oh
low chasm
Im in loudoun county, virginia
rough sapphire
No need to be that specific
low chasm
Its a high school for smart people
@rough sapphire Its pretty big, i doubt you'll find me
It stretches like 2 hours apart
rough sapphire
ohhhhhh
low chasm
lol
rough sapphire
I didn't know you needed to take an entry exam for High School (obviously for colleges though_
low chasm
No, its not a normal high school, you go there two days a week
half of your classes are there
There are two courses
Academies of engineering and technology
rough sapphire
Wait if you're in Loudoun then you must be close to DC
low chasm
and academies of science
Yeah i am, its half and hour from where I live
I applied for academies of engineering and technology
which is basically a course which teaches you about coding
rough sapphire
Omg Loudoun is bigger than DC
low chasm
all the math is coding related
low chasm
all the classes are coding related and whatnot
rough sapphire
521 mi²
rough sapphire
my county is only 500 mi²
low chasm
Im on the border, like near farifax and prince william
Cool[
Lets probably stop discussing our location, someone could be watching
low chasm
Lol
young shoal
DC is 10 square miles lol
rough sapphire
NYC is 302.6 mi²
low chasm
takes like an hour to get from one side to teh other
I've been to nyc
its pretty nice
quick bay
dc is just supposed to be the capital it isnt supposed to have as many citisens as it does
rough sapphire
lol
rough sapphire
I've been this year
low chasm
Cool
rough sapphire
oh you only gone 13
rough sapphire
My county borders NYC
low chasm
Cool
rough sapphire
i'm gonna delete the message I said about going to NYC 35-37 times so that no one knows my county
low chasm
I remember, I was in 5th grade, and I went to times square, and they were doing this conga line, and this dude just grabbed me and put me in the middle of the line
And I couldn't get out
rough sapphire
wth
low chasm
It freaked me out
Llol
They just grabbed me
and stuck me in the middle of their conga line
rough sapphire
NYC people are weird
rough sapphire
Also why is NYC so dense
young shoal
it's a city lol
rough sapphire
Where I am, it's like 260 times less dense
low chasm
Cool, you calculate that?
rough sapphire
lol
rough sapphire
it's 6:47, and I still haven't gone Trick-or-treating
low chasm
Oof, its 647 for me to
rough sapphire
idek if I want to go this year
low chasm
Well, imma be safe and not
low chasm
Lol
rough sapphire
Also my birthday was literally last week (I have a late birthday in the year)
low chasm
Im sorta socially akward, I remember freaking out every time I talked in this server
Oh cool, happy (late) birthday
My bdays in december
rough sapphire
it was the 24th
rough sapphire
ye
winter terrace
i think im a programmer because my goal in life is to be as lazy as possible but still suceed
low chasm
Lol
winter terrace
basically, i want to cheat as efficiently as possible
but the real cheating was the friends we made along the way
just kidding, i have no friends
mild abyss
you dont need to cheat to get friends'
winter terrace
dont mean that
winter terrace
when i mean cheating, i just mean using apis to do school for me
mild abyss
i just switch whenever i want to
winter terrace
nope
the only math ive used is trig
and thats only because i needed to figure out inverse kinematics or whatever tf
mild abyss
nah when you go in-depth to programming like the inner workings i think you need math
ah i see
winter terrace
but also converting vector2s to angles
mild abyss
youre still in highschool?
winter terrace
middle
mild abyss
ah no wonder. i get it
winter terrace
only thing, none of that stuff was taught to me
huh
i think most of everything that is taught in k-12 in america can be googled
mild abyss
i think most of everything that is taught in k-12 in america can be googled
@winter terrace i am in a k-12 curriculum
because philippines
winter terrace
oof
mild abyss
ah fuck.. i knew it. haha i should not have auto timed my snapshots or it will lag and use disk space on my pc
still btrfs is nice 😄
mild abyss
git switch vs git checkout hmmm
rough sapphire
hey
winter terrace
spooky scary skeletons -
manic bloom
git switchvsgit checkouthmmm
I always confuse the 2 for some reason.
floral viper
checkout is one of those weird commands that do multiple things depending on context
mild abyss
spooky is gone
eternal wing
I have literally never used git switch ever
low chasm
Same lol
boreal swift
I wish there was git delete yourself because this repository is broken and needs to be reinitialized
mild abyss
well according to people, git switch is relatively new
floral viper
I wish there was
git delete yourself because this repository is broken and needs to be reinitialized
cd ..
rm -rf <repo folder>
git clone <repo url>
When you got a specific repo you can put that as alias nuke or something
solid pollen
You can also just delete .git, init and repull the remote data
rm -rf ./.git
git init
git remote add origin <url>
git fetch```and then make the current branch point to the right remote branch
tough pilot
there's also the wipe technique :)
git clean -df
git reset --hard HEAD
edgy crest
hard head?
tough pilot
quite
median domeBOT
young imp
comeon anyone here?!?!?!
edgy crest
?
mild abyss
?
@edgy crest dont read. ignore them, or you will get their bad habits
edgy crest
reeet
strange barn
the java equivalent is
System.out.println ("EEEEEE");
(today's topic is non-practical code)
edgy crest
console.log("EEEEEE");```
cosmic lotus
eval('console.log("EEEEEE")');
scarlet wind
s = "EEEEEE"
print s
``` oofpython2 👀
edgy crest
edgy crest
did you forget the actual way of conversing in proper english
mild abyss
nu
scarlet wind
me brain cells ded
scarlet wind
me make brain cells ded
mild abyss
brain cells you cant make, body designed way that
scarlet wind
me no grammer
mild abyss
go learn peethon, dont mingle here too long braa
scarlet wind
me just done cooding
scarlet wind
me don't no js
tribal aurora
Hi
anybody knows why <Space>h takes some times to load?
I tried let mapleader = " " and mapped both <Space>h and <leader>h :wincmd h in my init.vim but it takes some moments to load/apply
that command
like it's waiting for <leader>h[Some else Command]
tribal aurora
and why gd will be converted to space
rough sapphire
also another book is really short but good..on compilers in c and understand how langs like python and lua and ruby..etc were created
@hoary steppe is it okay if i ask what the book is. it seems interesting
rough sapphire
oh ok
royal lakeBOT
@topaz aurora
It has arrived!
gentle moss
no.
rich rover
Oh what
royal lakeBOT
@solid pollen @topaz aurora
It has arrived!
gentle moss
@tribal aurora you should probably look at the #❓｜how-to-get-help channel to see how to use the help system. the offtopic channels are not the best place for those types of questions.
solid pollen
Not particularly, but thank old (young?) myself
gentle moss
ah, it's a vim question. try #tools-and-devops instead.
rich rover
lol, Your old self is very wise @solid pollen
tribal aurora
lol
rough sapphire
!remind 698956264629207121 1y are you owner yet?
royal lakeBOT
edgy crest
kek
tranquil thicket
python
narrow pecan
@rough sapphire you’ll have to do that I. #bot-commands hahah
rough sapphire
yeah i did
narrow pecan
Very well
edgy crest
@narrow pecan are western cucumbers better than normal cucumbers?
narrow pecan
They are (jk, we’re equal no matter the direction)
edgy crest
oooo
quick ledge
(Vivek Gurkan is the best Gurkan)
edgy crest
u are a cucumber?
narrow pecan
He is
quick ledge
What suggests otherwise? Maybe you need to be a bit more imaginative but your nickname doesn't isspire much hope in me
neon shoal
wow apparently this was the first message in this server #bot-commands message
thats still around
rich moon
u actually spent the time to find it lol
boreal swift
Sort by oldest exists
rough sapphire
nice
john was the original owner btw
hello
where is john today
joe where are you
@neon shoal how did you resolve this was the oldest message
rough sapphire
I did before: 2017-11-02 to be able to see that message you showed
neon shoal
rough sapphire
neon shoal
theres no way thats the oldest
rough sapphire
yes.. if only I could get paid for these bugs
neon shoal
haha
rough sapphire
recently raised a bug for them to remove an emoji punching pregnant women..
and they were like.. oh.. you can block this person.. and I was like.. that's not the issue here
neon shoal
yeah that seems hard to enforce though
how do you make sure all emojis are ok
tough
rough sapphire
go through an approval process
neon shoal
eh I guess
rough sapphire
do you know anything about c#
rough sapphire
I just decompiled a bunch of dll files and see the code, but I'm not sure if it's all the code
don't know a thing about c#.. have used a bit of c++ before.. can you tell me something
neon shoal
yeah I have no idea
I think there is an official c# server
you might be able to ask there
rough sapphire
ok then
rough sapphire
zapped?
oh you mean because you link another server.. I think mods are ok as long as it's not self promotion
neon shoal
I think the bot deletes them automatically
but this is a redirect so I guess it doesnt see it
left jacinth
I cant grasp my head around the fact that so many schools hinder students to use higher lvl functions than what the "class level" is.
It's this leave no one behind mentality.
Thing is: it is better for the group to leave some super slow students behind. And even with the leave no one behind mentality you can allow students to experiment with higher lvl stuff. I would be pretty tilted to get denied an opportunity to develop. It also causes geniouses to not develop properly because they dont have room to improve
rough sapphire
you mean things like common core?
most schools are meant to keep kids stupid.. so they can grow up to pay taxes
the American way
critical thinking, finances, programming.. it's not a priority unless it's a really good school and most people around the world don't get those opportunities
manic bloom
THIS. THIS OTN IS TRUEST.
frozen crane
@manic bloom if your regex doesn't summon a demon, it's not dank enough
topaz aurora
manic bloom
oh yes, that's by far my favorite answer on stackoverflow
rough sapphire
vivid flame
oh yes, that's by far my favorite answer on stackoverflow
@manic bloom i just read it. can confirm i've never seen anything like that ever written on stack before
manic bloom
👍
tranquil orchid
Ready to start writing my essays on monkey type
edgy crest
gooood
narrow pecan
Will it still save the text?
mild abyss
goodluck jackoo
tranquil orchid
you will be able to yeah
simple sand
Could someone explain to me what IRC is?
mild abyss
If I Recall Correctly
quick ledge
IRC - internet relay chat
mild abyss
iirc
quick ledge
it's like an old timey discord
quick ledge
the older members of this server will be familiar
simple sand
ohh
tribal aurora
can someone send me his output of time nvim
violet roost
@soft violet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaszWqOU2pc
tranquil orchid
Magpies == demons
gentle moss
only the australian ones
uneven pine
@tribal aurora https://i.imgur.com/kYSplRG.png
:^)
jokes aside, on the WSL https://i.imgur.com/29cddjd.png
let's start a speedrun challenge, real time reported, how fast can you exit vim
graceful basin
Best I can do
cosmic lotus
Vim Exit% Speedrun WR Pace
edgy crest
🤔
graceful basin
a nice trick is to enable caps lock to save shift mashing
or just make a vimrc that binds exit to something else
scarlet wind
lol
fervent dock
got 0m0.302s 
graceful basin
ZZ is op
uneven pine
spent way too long on this
https://i.imgur.com/rj0jOmU.png this is as good as it's going to get for me
uneven pine
440ms is a bit sluggish but nothing crazy if it's not a very powerful system
esp. if you have a lot of startup overhead, I don't know when vim loads plugins
little wolf
so not good?
graceful basin
is this cheating?
high verge
depends if you cheated
graceful basin
well, no. I exited it properly
but it is vi, not vim
which is lighter and starts up faster
eternal wing
time nano
graceful basin
nano is no joke
rough sapphire
I don't have nano 🙂
graceful basin
how did you press enterZZ in 20ms
rough sapphire
wdym its in escape mode already so just ZZ
graceful basin
you need enter to start vim
graceful basin
tribal aurora
Best I can do
@graceful basin I mapped <space>q for that
uneven pine
Lak that's cheating
tribal aurora
yea lol
graceful basin
yeah, was just curious how fast it would be
young shoal
holy shit dude
my teacher just said "we make our fields private in java to protect them from people changing them"
"say you have a bank account and some disgruntled employee just gives everyone a million dollars"
young shoal
yikes
graceful basin
I am so sorry for you
young shoal
this is quite bad
stark prawn
So if private is to protect the fields, what is protected for?
graceful basin
to protect from all but ones own progeny
stark prawn
That person was Lilo.
young shoal
oh
ornate flax
Guys is there any way to write a c program for swapping two nunbers using inbuilt function?
I was asked this in an interview
stark prawn
You can use a 3rd variable to store it temporarily
graceful basin
you should use a third variables
ornate flax
Yeah i knew it but the interviewer has asked to do it with using inbuilt function
stark prawn
There is std::swap in c++
Kind of an odd interview question tbh, not sure how that reflects on your prowess as a programmer
ornate flax
Yeah i knew the cpp function
Kind of an odd interview question tbh, not sure how that reflects on your prowess as a programmer
@stark prawn but i got selected in that interview for next round
stark prawn
Another way to do it would be to use an xor swap.
But I don't think that would be considered a builtin function
ornate flax
Another way to do it would be to use an xor swap.
@stark prawn yeah thanks i will try this now
graceful basin
xor swap is also worse in every way in C.
stark prawn
And only works on distinct values
digital lantern
Wow, a completely random person who doesn't share any servers with me just DMd me to say that they would give me a BitCoin
I am so so so so lucky
Let's give them my credit card number
solid pollen
Haha
cosmic lotus
don't forget the three numbers at the back!
solid pollen
Well, they probably left the server they shared with you
Are you in a lot of public servers?
solid pollen
That is really interesting
I’m not sure if I’m skilled enough to make something at least meaningful haha
cosmic lotus
Haha I'm trying myself, though others are just way too good like this 😭
https://twitter.com/simonthommes/status/1323185049492140033
edgy crest
bruh blender pros lol
rough sapphire
I can run blender but will take a lot of time to build that
rough sapphire
mins? hours?
scarlet wind
oof
rough sapphire
well there we go nodevnovember
rough sapphire
I am still 20
wow, they finally did it, it looks better than real... I think when the Play Station 5 comes out I gonna leave reality and live in unreality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ZOWWs6rNE
quick ledge
looks unreal
gentle moss
it's pretty damn impressive that's for sure
i do wonder how well the tech demo is going to translate into games
narrow pecan
looks unreal
@quick ledge like my engine
quick ledge
Unreal Engine 5
narrow pecan
Dude. That's both an insanely crazy engine and computer
That's literally more real than real life
gentle moss
the PS5 definitely has some serious power under the hood
quick ledge
yeah
narrow pecan
I've never gotten into gaming (maybe I get to blame my Mac?), but that's just crazy imoressive
gentle moss
this has been a very long console cycle
hmm... maybe not. about the same time gap to the PS3
thought it was 5 years not 7.
rough sapphire
by the time we are old and living in a nursing home, we can just put on VR headsets and think we're in a different world again
when youre demented you cant tell the difference at all anymore
lofty dirge
<@&267629731250176001> ^
Omnibrain, I'm curious about 4K gaming claims
just because every time consoles have claimed AWESOME RESOLUTION it never seems to work out that way
last gen, 1080P at 60FPS (Every game runs at 800P at 30FPS with frame drops)
lofty dirge
eh, "4K"
massive massive quotes around PS4 "4K"
more like 1440p that we claim is 4k because "HAND WAVE"
gentle moss
i still get bugged about 30fps capped games
bleak lintel
Haha I'm trying myself, though others are just way too good like this 😭
https://twitter.com/simonthommes/status/1323185049492140033
@cosmic lotus Simon Thommes is crazy! great guy
cosmic lotus
He is! He is apparently also working at Blender
manic bloom
Why not!
cosmic lotus
Yes!
bleak lintel
Oh he's working at Blender now?
That's awesome to hear
3D artist / generalist at Blender Studio
oh yeah!
rough sapphire
Could someone help me with a remove function in binary search tree ?
quick ledge
is it implemented in python?
@rough sapphire you will get a better answer in a help channel
rough sapphire
Could someone help me with a remove function in binary search tree ?
@rough sapphire bruh this is very tricky
tired cloak
sure
wise thistle
Ok so my hand has a little bit of hair
pretty sikmple
Its all black like space
and I use it to walk
and by hand mean my paw
So what is the point of this
Joe r u here
JOE
Ok, I am glad he is not spying on me
I cant believe Im a hostage
rough sapphire
hello joe
bleak lintel
greetings
manic bloom
Joe killed John, and then hid his body. Right Joe?
rough sapphire
John seems to have disappeared around 2019
rough sapphire
I've been here for a while, I've never seen him
bleak lintel
not long enough :)
rough sapphire
mild abyss
i kinda wonder what is he doing right now after he left PyDis
manic bloom
cyber stalking 👀
mild abyss
what lol?
manic bloom
I'm jokingly saying, it's time for some cyber stalking
mild abyss
okay gotta make a video presentation for our research
manic bloom
👍
low chasm
Hi
scenic blaze
Are people basically good or are people basically shit?
eternal wing
I side with locke on this
scenic blaze
I hear you there
eternal wing
Everyone knows the internet is the best place to have a respectful discussion on philosophy :D
scenic blaze
hah
simple sand
i kinda wonder what is he doing right now after he left PyDis
@mild abyss i don't think he left cause he still has the developers role
bleak lintel
locke
good guy
I prefer Nietzsche
I stumbled across a video about Nietzsche the other day lol
honest star
lmao, that's a great way of putting it
edgy crest
lol
deep drum
hey does anyone know of a good Discord bot for preventing raids?
I'm in a LGBT discord local to my school and we get trolls now and then
don't really know of a good bot that can just help prevent that
edgy crest
pydis mods
eternal wing
@deep drum this can be fairly tricky. I am not familiar with other bots, but you can maybe look to our bot to see how we handle this stuff.
!source
royal lakeBOT
terse sluice
@royal lake does not handle raids well lol
rough sapphire
lol ez fix just ban anyone that talks
topaz aurora
not yet
terse sluice
wdym not yet
topaz aurora
not never 
rough sapphire
is that a bot?
eternal wing
Why would it not be named after a type of python....
topaz aurora
I guess you could say it's the overlord of the bots, even surpassing the likes of @remote socket
terse sluice
SeasonalBot is going to be Cobra some day
rough sapphire
@rattlesnake
eternal wing
No bot is close to passing xith in computing power
eternal wing
But a cobra is not a type of python :c
terse sluice
there are types of Pythons?
topaz aurora
It's a snake :>
eternal wing
!!
rough sapphire
ii
topaz aurora
Metricity is the only odd one out
rough sapphire
metricity is joes favorite
topaz aurora
and the hidden IRC bot
eternal wing
Ok you did: ball pythons, children's pythons, carpet pythons, woma pythons...
terse sluice
those would not be great names lol
eternal wing
I am aware, ill keep brainstorming
terse sluice
anyway, the reason why raids last only a matter of minutes here nowadays is because the spam has a pretty clear pattern
we can then create a quick int eval which bans everyone matching that pattern
and raid is over
topaz aurora
rough sapphire
eval(ban)
quick ledge
There are so many pythons
@eternal wing CPython, PyPy, MicroPython, Jython 😎
terse sluice
Cython and Brython!
young shoal
ironpy
terse sluice
that's old
quick ledge
BFython whn
eternal wing
Lol
young shoal
FBIthon when
eternal wing
Well, you just summoned them with that namedrop
fast sinew
hey would this be the place to ask a question about html lol
eternal wing
Yeah, you could. You can also try #web-development but i dont mind answering one here personally
eternal wing
Do you need to actually get the pixel value?
In general you can use vw to reference the width of a screen.
honest star
The !shhh command is a very useful one though
edgy crest
shhh
eternal wing
It stands for view width
As in 100vw == the full width of the users viewport
It is styling for css:
body{
width: 100vw;
}
Np
You can also use width: 100% which will be the screens full width if all the containers are also width 100%
rough sapphire
hey
cursive abyss
howdy
gleaming thicket
eternal wing
howdy
Hey! Thats my line 😠
edgy crest
haida
narrow pecan
Howda mista linux
finite girder
I started learning python today,
I feel cheated that people use this language.
It's too easy coming off of C++
I wish I learnt python before😭
tranquil orchid
I mean C++ is very useful as well
finite girder
Little to do with use tbh
All languages are useful
Its just that python is very user friendly
cursive abyss
Hey! Thats my line 😠
@eternal wing it's mine now 🙃
mild abyss
@narrow pecan HOWDY WESTEEN COCOOMBEER
narrow pecan
HOWDY
serene pumice
@dapper bolt
dapper bolt
ok thx
serene pumice
yw
dapper bolt
looks cool
tranquil orchid
and for reference here's vsc @dapper bolt
dapper bolt
yea i actually use vsc right now but don't really like it that much
serene pumice
I prefer it over others, but in general I like minimalistic stuff - I've had pycharm make scripts not work before due to it interfering
do all debugging thru cmd which is honestly p easy
tranquil orchid
Wait does sublime not have an actual debugger
rough sapphire
🤔
little wolf
Is golang's syntax closer to python or c?
graceful basin
closer to C I would say, though it is pretty foreign from both
simple sand
debugging is so much work
edgy crest
:o
serene pumice
@desert flume
graceful basin
I just rewrote a python function in clojure and it worked the first time I ran it
solid pollen
Is it snowing?
edgy crest
no
is it for u ?
i have seen snow only once, in 2012
when i went to north, it never snows here 🤷
graceful basin
the second function took some debugging, but only because of an annoying typo. But it works now https://hastebin.com/raw/jewawiqudi
solid pollen
We haven’t seen snow in 7 years now I think, but trump said that global warming is a joke, so....
narrow pecan
No need to worry. Climate change is fake, of course :D
solid pollen
Oh no, I remember this ot name
mild abyss
yes it is definitely fake.
solid pollen
Definiteali
solid pollen
Good luck haha
cosmic lotus
why are you installing a processor
mild abyss
idk if thats a joke or
well it is i3-wms fault for its naming
I just rewrote a python function in clojure and it worked the first time I ran it
@graceful basin whats clojure? another lang?
solid pollen
why are you installing a processor
@cosmic lotus yeah, you should be downloading it
cosmic lotus
Then you use the Upgradinator 3000™ 🔨
wind nacelle
digital lantern
Grammar.ly is just ReSharper for English
digital lantern
I wanted to test that feature
opaque anchor
I'm thinking of making a language called Quazi
My main inspiration is JS but I'm incorporating many Python features too
Here's a hello-world example
print("Hello there!");
Here's a function example
addTwoNums(x: Number, y: Number) = x + y;
Types are required unless they can be inferred
The goal is to minimize runtime errors and allow for fluent, elegant code
It also supports built-in function options
solid pollen
Why do you want to end lines with semi colons in 2020 
opaque anchor
func(x: 1, y: 2)
@solid pollen semi-colons are optional
i'm just used to them
Import statements are like this
import x from 'module';
import { y } from 'module';
import x, { y } from 'module';
Basically similar to JS imports
Here's all the ways to create functions
func = (x: Number, y: Number) => x + y;
func(x: Number, y: Number) = x + y;
function func(x: Number, y: Number) {
return x + y;
}
func: Function<Number, Number> = <#0 + #1>;
what is the =>?
opaque anchor
=> is anonymous functions
(x, y) => x + y is the same as lambda x, y: x + y in python
little wolf
oh its js
little wolf
oh nice
opaque anchor
One of the most useful features is the <> anonymous function
You don't have to specify argument names
So you can have simple logic like
solid pollen
It looks good
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seq
.map<# * 5>
.filter<# > 15>;
ye
there's also going to be concrete types
just like python
so there will be a String class, a Number class, a Boolean class, etc
the == operator will be just like the Python one, not the JS one
the === operator will be just like the Python is
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Types can be inferred
little wolf
nothing should be like the == from js
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@little wolf even tho JS is my favorite language
JS had a lot of bad design decisions
like
== is terrible in JS
why can you add numbers and strings
etc
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but I still really like JS method chaining, JS prototypes, JS anonymous functions
little wolf
if i was giving out that vibes
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Quazi is sort of Python + TypeScript
and ik
the goal is also to minimize runtime errors
a lot like elm
but also for fluent and easy code
you can even do stuff like this in Quazi
x = 5;
if x == 5;
log("5");
If you don't specify a block for if
Then it'll just exit the current block if the condition fails
So you could do stuff like
little wolf
is log the console.log in this language?
little wolf
as a print debugger i like the lenth of this
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also
a lot of times you won't have to deal with messy runtime errors
since there will be powerful type checking
and type inferring
x = 5;
x = '5'; //Fails because the first definition of x is as a number.
so yeah
there will also be top-level await
and await will be more like JS promises then Python coroutines
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also you know about threads right?
and thanks
quazi will have thread support which is asyn
so stuff like
const MyThread = new Thread(() => {
//Do a large calculation
x = 0;
while (x < 100000) {
x += 1;
}
return x;
});
let res = await MyThread;
log(res); //logs 100000
or you could do
little wolf
uh........
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const MyThread = new Thread(() => {
//Do a large calculation
x = 0;
while (x < 100000) {
x += 1;
}
return x;
});
MyThread.then(log); //logs 100000
@little wolf ?
little wolf
also you know about threads right?
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oh
well anyways, i hope it'll be a neat language
i don't expect people to use it
it's just meant to be a nice side-project
little wolf
no im not calling it bad, im just saying i have no idea what threads mean lol
i would love a mixture of js and python
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alr
@little wolf well, quazi is gonna have a lot of that
alongside types too
so you can't make silly mistakes like this
x: Number;
x = 1;
x = '5'; //Won't work, only allows numbers to be saved to the variable
anyone knows Typescript here?
tribal aurora
Which is better?
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that actually depends but a lot of times
topaz aurora
If you want type safety go for TS
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typescript is better since it saves you from a lot of errors
@tribal aurora JS is easier to write
but TS can save you from a lot of errors
and ensure type safety
tribal aurora
I was looking to learn TS because it has lots of features and it's superset of JS
tribal aurora
But I see there isn't really HUGE community for TS
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@tribal aurora I think around 20% of the JS developers use TS
and there's still a pretty big one
big companies like Microsoft and Google use TS too I think
tribal aurora
hm
little wolf
But I see there isn't really HUGE community for TS
@tribal aurora i know a typescript server, and its pretty active
tribal aurora
can you send it to me pls
little wolf
sure
little wolf
i couldn't find one for js lol
little wolf
tribal aurora
thanks
tribal aurora
lol
But, again, it's not Huge as javascript
I mean , there aren't enough asked questions in stackoverflow
little wolf
im not sure
but i think javascript works on typescript
so if you get a js solution
its most probably gonna work on ts too
and the most famous js develouper uses typescript
so i wouldn't worry too much about its popularity
tribal aurora
How?
little wolf
How?
?
tribal aurora
but i think javascript works on typescript
And how do you know
and the most famous js develouper uses typescript
little wolf
it doesn't?
tribal aurora
I don't know , I'm new
tribal aurora
And do you know TS?
little wolf
nope
tribal aurora
:/
little wolf
i am probably a bad influence
tribal aurora
JS?
tribal aurora
so?
little wolf
i like realtime error correction
if you are beggining
start with just javascript
but give typescript a shot
when you are decent at javascript
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So for Quazi
I want to make it very easy to infer types
The goal is to minimize types as much as possible
I'm hoping the only area you'd need to specify types
Would be functions
So stuff like the following is inferred
wise thistle
Does this channel have a topic? I hope not?
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function func(x: Number) {
return x + 5; //Return type is inferred
}
x = 5; //Infers 'x' to be a Number.
y = func(x); //Infers 'y' to be a Number.
z = new Class(); //Infers 'z' to be an instance of Class;
a = x * 2; //Infers 'a' to be a Number.
Take a wild guess lol
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so those are some plans for Quazi, my programming language in-progress
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automatic type inference
@wise thistle uh I guess it has a topic right now since
i'm talking about my programming language here
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Oh CMON....I wanted to talk about my finger
fast sinew
hey is anyone here good at html?
fast sinew
cuz I just have a question
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function func(x: Number) {
return x + 5; //Return type is inferred
}
x = 5; //Infers 'x' to be a Number.
y = func(x); //Infers 'y' to be a Number.
z = new Class(); //Infers 'z' to be an instance of Class;
a = x * 2; //Infers 'a' to be a Number.
So here's how I plan for it to infer types
Primitives are easy to infer
5 is obviously a Number
functions get a bit tricky
In a function, you have to specify the types of the arguments
But then you can use those to infer types
function func(x: Number) {
return x + 5; //Return type is inferred
}
Since we know x has to be a Number, and a number plus another number is a number, it infers it to be a Number
So it infers the functions return type to be a number
y = func(x); //Infers 'y' to be a Number. Allowing it to infer this to also be a number
z = new Class(); //Infers 'z' to be an instance of Class; We can easily infer that an instance of a class is well... a value with the type being that class.
a = x * 2; //Infers 'a' to be a Number. As you know, x is a number
So we can infer a to also be a number
and that allows for powerful type inference
dusty wagon
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Quazi's standard lib, when I make it
tribal aurora
function func(x: Number) {
return x + 5; //Return type is inferred
}
x = 5; //Infers 'x' to be a Number.
y = func(x); //Infers 'y' to be a Number.
z = new Class(); //Infers 'z' to be an instance of Class;
a = x * 2; //Infers 'a' to be a Number.
@opaque anchor what is this?
I mean what language is it
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@tribal aurora That's type inference
And it's a language I'm making
Called Quazi
tribal aurora
waoh
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Combining features of JS, TS, and Python
tribal aurora
so you're expert
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I guess
The goal is for the same flexibility of like
Python and JS
But also the same benefits of typing
So it can catch a lot of errors before they even happen
Ok so
Something I noticed in TypeScript is the interface
I think Quazi should automatically generate and assume interfaces
So
If you do this
obj = {
a: 1,
b: 2
};
It'll automatically assume that obj is an Interface { a: Number, b: Number }
graceful basin
huh, return type inference is interesting. Do you have union types?
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@graceful basin yep
String | Number
This is still just an early idea, but the goal is to infer as much as possible
so with union types
it should be able to infer the exact type at some point
graceful basin
so in order to have a union, you need to explicitly specify its type?
opaque anchor
yep, unless it can be inferred
so
function func(x: String | Number) {
return x;
}
The function's return type is String | Number
but when you call the function
func(5)
it will infer that the return type for that call is Number
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function func(x: String, y: String | Number) {
arr = [];
arr.push(x);
arr.push(y);
return arr;
}
so this could be an example of List[String | Number] | List[String]
then
func(1, 2);
i'm not sure if it'll be able to infer that
since [] is just a plain array
if it could infer that
it would need to scan the function
look at arr
then detect arr.push(x), and see what type x is
which is string
so then that makes it List[String]
and if y is a Number, it becomes List[String | Number]
otherwise it stays to List[String]
I think that should be possibly to infer too but I'm not sure
another thing is casting
I don't think this language will have explicit casts
So if you have a union type
You'd probably have to check it
x: String | Number;
x = x as String; //This is impossible. You can't cast directly
The only way to cast would be to use an if with instanceof
x: String | Number;
if (x instanceof String) {
//Use x as a String within this body
}
So @graceful basin
It might not be able to infer it
And in that case
You'd need to explicitly use the union type
And check which type it matches
If it matches List[String] or
List[String | Number]
or even
iterate over the List[String | Number]
and check if each value is a string or a number
because for union types, you cannot act on the data unless you check its direct type with instanceof
graceful basin
the issue is something like
x = ["Hello"]
y = x
z: List[String] = x
y.push(8)
that would fail
x is automatically defined as a List[String] from ["Hello"]
so if you want to do that
you'd need it to be x: List[String, Number] = ["Hello"]
graceful basin
yeah, that is smart
opaque anchor
everything would be valid
up to y.push(8)
but
if you do this x: List[String, Number] = ["Hello"]
z: List[String] = x then this will fail
graceful basin
yeah, that is required
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the goal is to minimize a lot of the runtime errors
so casting is removed except through instanceof checks
since if you try to use string-only methods on an Object type
there's a chance it could fail
x: List[String | Number] = [1, 2, '3', 4, '5', '6'];
//INVALID
for (i of x) {
if (i.length == 1) {
log(i);
} else if (i > 8) {
log(i);
}
}
//VALID
for (i of x) {
if (i instanceof String) {
if (i.length == 1) log(i);
} else if (i instanceof Number) {
if (i > 8) log(i);
}
}
so this showcases that
in typescript
const x: string | number = '5';
if (x.startsWith('5')) {
console.log(x);
}
this is valid
but that wouldn't be valid in Quazi
unless you check if x is a String
before operating on it
burnt stirrup
hi
is there any way to create cluster of 2 servers and combine the resources so they act like a single system
eternal wing
oh hi mark
you may want to look into something called a beowulf cluster, pretty neat at least. Not necessarily server related.
overall you would probably just want to delegate resources between servers though.
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topaz aurora
I don't like how the return function for my LISP jumps unconditionally, but it's something I can live by for simplicity I guess
This is valid, for one
(loop [(return 42)])
When it evaluates the vector, it performs the side-effect of making the return propagate
I could write it in the spec that it's imperative but oh well
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@royal rune no needs to post that in all 3 channels, we heard your point
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serene pumice
confusion lol
serene pumice
6 actually
serene pumice
I change it up a lot, always have a full screen
music, discord, text editor, tutorial video, cmd, and the website I'm coding
other times it's music, video editor, files, maybe youtube
late anchor
how do i block this specific script using tampermonkey or soemthing
i am sorry if this is offtopic but ive tried using noscript, and ublock origin advanced options
with no sucess
little wolf
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