that's what they call toileteas, aki?
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
sand goblet
undone berry
but no - for British tea, you don't use a thermometer
cold current
Nice ^^
undone berry
you heat the water, preferably past boiling point
royal laurel
yeah there are some teas that become poisonous actually so it does matter
honest star
.... Hmmm... Well then
undone berry
then stick in tonnes of black tea
spiral ridge
when i was drank my first tea i forgot to cool it down, so i burnt my tongue and couldnt taste anything for the whole day. i have done that a few times after
eternal wing
Poured ONLY
cold current
Photoshopped
royal laurel
THAT'S SO DARK
honest star
I typically use a thermometer or if I'm lazy the IR one
sand goblet
that's not tea
royal laurel
that's coffee
sand goblet
instant coffee at that
royal laurel
that's so dark it passes as coffee
honest star
That looks nornal
eternal wing
Well, I'm American
undone berry
even for tea that isn't dark
royal laurel
that's SO dark
eternal wing
The French press is in frame
royal laurel
my tea is light beige
sand goblet
that's definitely coffee yeah
eternal wing
I'm not personally offended xD
undone berry
That's a pretty standard tea colour
honest star
I'm with Charlie, that's normal
spiral ridge
have yoou ever tried spicy tea
cold current
This channel is full of tea snobs 😄
eternal wing
Any lighter and i might as well just drink the creme
undone berry
B/5
royal laurel
3F bitch
sand goblet
E 4 for me
royal laurel
charlie you need help
honest star
Hmmmm, 3c or 4d depending on the mood
royal laurel
5
eternal wing
Plot twist
cold current
6A
undone berry
5 is just good toast
cold current
Well done
undone berry
4 is fine
royal laurel
3 toast best toast
undone berry
the other 3 are under done
eternal wing
I'm a 3-4
sand goblet
I usually aim 4 but get 5
undone berry
that's just some tanned bread
royal laurel
charlie out here eating charcoal toast
cold current
6 is where it's at, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
honest star
5 is approaching burned
undone berry
it's so obvious to me that 4/5 is where it's at
royal laurel
it's 3F and that's on what PERIOD
sand goblet
at least 1 wasn't popular
undone berry
1 is just bread
cold current
1 is raw
honest star
Lmao, raw toast
royal laurel
it's warm bread
spiral ridge
its strecthy bread
undone berry
I could imagine warm bread being good for a bacon sandwhich
sand goblet
it is
royal laurel
bread that was breathed over
eternal wing
also: I usually use a mug 3x this side because 'Merica, thank god I did snap a picture of that here
cold current
Bread that was in the vicinity of a cooking oven
cold current
Toast/tea sins are unforgivable
royal laurel
what i took from this is that charlie likes eating coal and is calcium deficient
undone berry
also - going way back to the coffee front @eternal wing there's more to the texture/blend than just the visible stuff, you can taste that it isn't mixed
The calcium deficiency might not be wrong
but
sand goblet
my search also came up with this image
undone berry
that aint charcoal
sand goblet
this is charlie's toaster irl
undone berry
it's insulted
royal laurel
bro that's COAL
undone berry
my toaster mainly gets used for crumpets
royal laurel
that's bbq material
sand goblet
touché
spiral ridge
moné
eternal wing
I am an extreme coffee snob and I stand that this coffee is perfectly mixed
undone berry
crumpets and hotcross buns are the standard things that I toast
sand goblet
for those that don't know
eternal wing
I took a video as well
tawny jetty
wait hotcross buns actually exist?
royal laurel
thicc pamcake
eternal wing
ty, my american mind could not comprehend
sand goblet
is a crumpet
tawny jetty
I thought it was just a BANGER on the recorder
cold current
I don't even know why I'm in this conversation, I don't drink tea or coffee 😄
royal laurel
it's a thick pancake g
eternal wing
ah, an english muffin
sand goblet
nop, that's something else
royal laurel
it's LITERALLY bread pancake
eternal wing
I don't even know why I'm in this conversation, I don't drink tea or coffee 😄
you should stay here and take my side anyway
undone berry
hot cross buns
sand goblet
english muffins are bread pancakes
cold current
I'll consider it
eternal wing
oh nice
spiral ridge
they are very cross
tawny jetty
whoa
sand goblet
cold current
English muffins are pretty good
royal laurel
" a small griddle cake made from an unsweetened batter of water or milk, flour and yeast" IT'S FUCKING BREAD BUDDY
cold current
No
honest star
Mmmm biscuits
undone berry
A crumpet is essentially bread yeah
sand goblet
I like butter okay
eternal wing
I do rate english breakfast pretty high on the breakfast scale
undone berry
it's all about the texture
a crumpet is just the politest way to drink butter honestly
royal laurel
g you like a lot of things
royal laurel
wanna talk about cheese?
eternal wing
the politest way to drink butter is in your coffee
sand goblet
of course I want to talk about cheese
royal laurel
this is actually an intervention for g
honest star
Gouda >>>>>
undone berry
the politest way to drink butter is in your coffee
I have yet to manage to try butter coffee
royal laurel
about his cheese addiction
undone berry
you don't just dump a lump in a normal cup of coffee right?
cold current
Butter in coffee...? What??
sand goblet
there's nothing better than a decent aged cheddar
royal laurel
he don't only simp he donates all his assets to the cheese
forfeits all his material possessions
honest star
I think you do for bulletproof coffee??
royal laurel
just so he can have a crumb of parmesan
undone berry
there's nothing better than a decent aged cheddar
that's a fact. Preferably cave aged
eternal wing
you don't just dump a lump in a normal cup of coffee right?
I tried this with unsalted. Is not bad it is not really good though
spiral ridge
no thats not good
sand goblet
there are cheese stores?
honest star
Oooh yeah, a good aged gouda is heavenly
royal laurel
bro y'all out here putting BUTTER ON COFFEE
undone berry
I like that so many countries think they have the best cheese
when obviously England is the best
sand goblet
haha
eternal wing
I believe in some areas the butter in coffee is a traditional way to drink it
honest star
There are! It's magical
cold current
Don't tell gdude about the cheese stores oh no
royal laurel
i am now legally allowed to hunt you
eternal wing
has anyone here tried turkish coffee?
sand goblet
the butter in coffee thing was supposed to be a health food thing
it was absolutely stupid though
royal laurel
HEALTH FOOD
sand goblet
yeah I know
royal laurel
i'm done
eternal wing
it is keto
undone berry
@royal laurel That's not really what it is if you do it right, that's just the name for it. You put something like coconut butter and lots of weird creamy sweet stuff in it
eternal wing
I assume
royal laurel
i'm pulling out the shotgun
honest star
A cheese wheel?
eternal wing
mmm cheese
sand goblet
Proponents of butter coffee claim that it suppresses hunger and helps you lose weight by helping you eat less. Butter coffee contains a large amount of fat, which slows digestion and may increase feelings of fullness
eternal wing
yeah, that is the stupid version xD
cold current
Doubt.
royal laurel
now let's talk about cholesterol for a minute
eternal wing
increase feelings of fullnes yeah because you just got your calorie intake for 3 days in one cup of coffee
undone berry
I'd absolutely love butter coffee - but I also don't get near enough calories regularly
sand goblet
My cholesterol is perfect, which is actually hilarious
spiral ridge
i dont see the point of not eating cheese
cold current
Many reasons
royal laurel
laughs in cholesterol under the normal values
sand goblet
I mean if you're badly lactose intolerant and don't want to push through it
eternal wing
I am a cheese proponent
sand goblet
I can understand not wanting to eat cheese
cold current
Cheese activist, @eternal wing
royal laurel
i am lactose intolerant and istill eat it
stark prawn
Cheese is tasty.
royal laurel
tell you why
i don't care
undone berry
It boggles the mind that there are some people who don't like cheese
stark prawn
I know some lactose intolerant people that takes meds just to eat cheese.
honest star
All the lactose intolerant people I know will still absolutely eat cheese
royal laurel
the risk is calculated but man am i bad at math
cold current
Cheese wheel throne? 🤔
eternal wing
I know a few that hate cheese.
I also know a few that eat queso fresca by the mouthful
royal laurel
it's queso fresco
sand goblet
I mean I can just eat a wedge of parmesan
royal laurel
cheese is a male object
eternal wing
ty
honest star
I hope queso fresca is actually a fresca painting but of queso
cold current
Parmesan is one of my favorite cheeses to be sure
sand goblet
it'd be a bad idea but I'm fine with it
cold current
Spanish ^
eternal wing
yes, I let my spanish slip
royal laurel
yeah spanish has gendered objects
eternal wing
haha
spiral ridge
not only spanish
undone berry
Buying a massive wheel of cheddar has always appealed to me
but
they are a bit too big
and I don't like cheese that much
sand goblet
I mean if you were gonna get a good cheddar
that would cost a fuck of a lot of money
honest star
Do it anyway, yes you do
eternal wing
I hope queso fresca is actually a fresca painting but of queso
yes, I am just an admirer of the fine artsnot grammatically illiterate
royal laurel
i love cheddar so fucking much but DUDE my stomach will hate me after it
sand goblet
it's an aged cheddar
undone berry
i'm very skeptical
spiral ridge
evet
cold current
@rough sapphire Go out and get that cheese throne. Achieve your dreams.
eternal wing
it's like €15 for a 400g cornish cruncher at M&S
rule 4 please
undone berry
Good cheddar doesn't come from cornwall
spiral ridge
!rule 4
royal lakeBOT
undone berry
it comes from Sommerset
eternal wing
real english server
undone berry
or possibly Dorset
eternal wing
im jk, not about to start that one
sand goblet
well this one is really good
cold current
@rough sapphire And when you do, upload a pic, and tag me ;]
sand goblet
£13.40 apparently
royal laurel
cornish cruncher aka corn dentures
cold current
I'm out for now, good discussions
sand goblet
o/
eternal wing
we should add a currency and unit converter to the bot. I keep using imperial units even though they are silly
👋
undone berry
yeah, i'm also gonna go do other things than procrastinate on Discord. But i'm glad we managed to agree that B/5+a crumpet is the ideal British Brunch
eternal wing
we should ban those in general, not just from the server xD
stark prawn
!wa 1m to f
royal lakeBOT
honest star
Listen, when it comes to machining things in >>>>> cm any goddamn day
spiral ridge
We should ban inches and other dumb units
i read that as itches
eternal wing
I have nothing to do 😄 so I can just stay here
sand goblet
lol, grote
stark prawn
Nice, metres to fortnights.
spiral ridge
bye doing mat
eternal wing
im just impressed they could do the math for that one
stark prawn
It interpreted it as minutes to fortnights while I meant for it to do meters to feet.
honest star
feet is probably ft
spiral ridge
(ft. singer)
stark prawn
!wa 1m to ft
undone berry
that's not that hard. That's 1/(2*7*60*60*24)
royal lakeBOT
eternal wing
no no, we need to do the proof of 1 meter == 4.96*10^-3 fortnights
honest star
yeaaaaah
undone berry
it was 1 minute, not meter
eternal wing
I think we need a better command
stark prawn
!wa pikachu graph
royal lakeBOT
stark prawn
😦
tranquil orchid
lol
honest star
1m is 4.4xinner radius of an NBA basketball rim
eternal wing
I realize what happened, but I still think we should work on a proof
because I literally have nothing better to do
honest star
At lightspeed, it takes 3.3ns to travel 1m
eternal wing
there we go, now we are on to something
I think the default unit when I installed Fusion 360 was inches and I thought that was hilarious
honest star
mine keeps defaulting to mm and I keep forgetting to change it
So I'll have a piece for like 2 in and get 2 mm and I'm like.... waaait a minute
eternal wing
in fact: the hardest thing about aerospace stuff was I needed to remember all the conversions of units and sometimes just memorized different constants in equations based on the units.
like, wtf is a "slug" and why did we need that unit of measurement.
honest star
At my work I need to give velocity in imperial, but all inputs are given to me in metric
honest star
On test days it's a fast turn around too, ooooh boy. I have a pretty tricked out back and forth converter I made in excel now
eternal wing
aviation as a whole is weird with units
that is awesome though haha
it baffles me that imperial units are still even used tbh
honest star
My favorite is when I get mixed units. 40kg with an expected pressure of 4kpsi. What's the exit velocity in ft/s?
spiral ridge
sorry
eternal wing
yeah, they would do it to mess with us I feel like in aviation. like, everything would be in essentially the "wrong" unit
stark prawn
knots per fortnight.
eternal wing
lol, I would be so pissed if I saw that
honest star
Part of my work shares some similarity with the aviation field. The unit switching gets me constantly
eternal wing
I wouldnt doubt it after my curriculum though
spiral ridge
KPF
honest star
But it's just because different standards from different countries and when you combine it *shrug*
stark prawn
And just to make it more usefull, we'll make knots be different depending on the vehicle.
honest star
When I did submarine QA work, oh boy did the unit thing get weird.
eternal wing
yeah, I feel like the us should have switched units about the time we lost a space ship/shuttle because of it (i dont remember which one)
lol... units are annoying
honest star
Wasn't it a rover of sorts?
eternal wing
oh yeah, it was a rover
honest star
Yup their Mars Climate Orbiter
eternal wing
in aviation we use both Statute miles and Nautical miles, but the military uses meters........................................................................
lofty dirge
Nautical mile is used because of its relationship with latitude
honest star
They didn't convert from English to metric
eternal wing
so I need to interpret all three correctly
honest star
Oh yup
stark prawn
English gallon vs US gallon
spiral ridge
beard?
honest star
The worst is even in imperial, lb-force or lb-mass
stark prawn
And ft-length or ft-bodypart
honest star
I hate slugs as a unit
eternal wing
I think it was a typo though, I cant recall
stark prawn
Slugs, like the shotgun ammo or the slimy creature?
spiral ridge
shotgun ammo?
stark prawn
A modern shotgun slug is a heavy projectile made of lead, copper, or other material and fired from a shotgun.```I do not miss those courses
spiral ridge
what kind of unit is it
rich moon
all my homies use metric
tranquil orchid
I don't understand imperial
eternal wing
me neither
I think we just use it to stick it to the rest of the world
12in == 1ft == 0.33yd (no one uses this, lel) == 0.0001875mi
tranquil orchid
Its just so weird
eternal wing
I agree
gentle sierra
ew imperial
eternal wing
is sex pistol lurking here? if so: your advice was pretty good, my speed and accuracy is way up today
modern heron
Anyone know where I could find the regex for the discord token detection thing
If I recall the bot has a feature where it deletes messages with tokens in them I think
eternal wing
hmmm, I can take a look, but idk where it can be found
if it exists xD
god I love good practice
@modern heron
eternal wing
not that
is sex pistol lurking here? if so: your advice was pretty good, my speed and accuracy is way up today
upper sand
haha im not lurking lol
thats good, glad i was of some help 😄
i thought it was ur bot lol
but its actual py disc bot
@eternal wing what do u use for procedural terrain generator, marching cubes ??
and jsut shade it ?
eternal wing
I have not really played with it actually, I was just interested in trying it out. sadly.
but I want to do everything those unity dudes do (sebastian lague in particular)
upper sand
terrain is pretty easy if u know hwat ur doing lol
after i complete learning rust i will make one and chuck it to ya
and u can do it in c#
and chuck that code in c# back to me again lol
eternal wing
haha, I would love to see the result. Im not confident enough in c# to just rip it out though xD
upper sand
reverse engineering 🙂
upper sand
well up to u lol
eternal wing
assembly
upper sand
dare ya @eternal wing bahahaha
eternal wing
lololol I cherish my time, unfortunately
actually, my next big project might be music related, we shall see
that terrain generator has been on my list for months now
upper sand
ah fair enough its kinda fun project lol
i did algorith visualtisation is python, terrain generator and path finding algo vis in javascript lol
all of them are incomplete tho lol
already got pile of new projects im currently trying to work on hahha
i jsut added a new project yesterdat llol
actually i never thought of doing something realted to music lol
maybe auyto generated 8bit music bhahah
wintry cave
@upper sand Do you have any projects i can try to contribute to?
(Python)
on github/etc.
I need to start contributing somewhere since i know python
upper sand
i c fair enough not atm but mr native linux user has a bot open source project u can contribute too
he would be more than happy
if u contribute to his project
upper sand
@eternal wing
sorry for the ping lul
u can get more detail on this projet directly from him coz i dont know much about the bot
wintry cave
alright, i'll try to help
upper sand
sweet beans
eternal wing
i did pathfinding in Java haha
wintry cave
I know java too
eternal wing
upper sand
wait check my path finding lol
eternal wing
if interested
wintry cave
alright
eternal wing
and I am lurking, no worries on ping haha
upper sand
u can run only steps i tell u tho lol
wintry cave
what do you mean? 🤨
eternal wing
I think he is referring to his scripts
wintry cave
OH
upper sand
upper sand
so add start
and end point from add menu
and chose only dijikstras algo
and then run
eternal wing
oh wait, I translated mine to python, well, it was just the algorithm, I never applied it 😛
upper sand
coz i did only work on dijikstras
eternal wing
WHOAAAA
upper sand
u can add walls
eternal wing
that is just visually pleasing
upper sand
weight checkpoint
eternal wing
duuuude, this is awesome
upper sand
haha ty
eternal wing
WOW
upper sand
i will work
eternal wing
like honestly, that was really cool
eternal wing
I am familiar only with breadth search haha from that list
eternal wing
yeah, honestly, it is not only cool that you applied the algo, but those visuals are really great.
Did you program the front end on your own? or is this some sort of prebuilt?
eternal wing
my god
eternal wing
I am so impressed by this that I feel guilty to anyone else who I said I was impressed by. This is one of the coolest things I have seen done with webdev haha
eternal wing
lol, no
eternal wing
I can flex then
upper sand
so it was smooth for u damnn..
eternal wing
cuz it is smooth as butter
upper sand
sweet hhaha
eternal wing
have you not seen it run smoothly then? It looks insane
for some reason the checkpoint seemed a bit slower, but still really cool
rough sapphire
How to put pycharm on desktop?
On linux
upper sand
yea coz its computing as the whole thing as u animate lol
if u see the chart using dev tool
u will see the cpu usage lol
i need to optimise the code too
like bundle the whoe thing together and it will run smooth as butter
eternal wing
god dam gorgeous
eternal wing
How to put pycharm on desktop?
On linux
you can probs just download it like normal
I have not, what does weight do exactly?
upper sand
so it will just increase the cost of the path
n the algo will try to choose the most optimal path
eternal wing
ohh, that is awesome
this is some serious game dev stuff.
Wow, im even more impressed that you pretty much implemented it entirely
upper sand
its not that hard as u think
eternal wing
I have played with similar things before, but never with such sweet visuals
upper sand
ye its fun lol
tranquil orchid
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704764722372804681/726427593657548800/B2E58C82-CA57-4C38-8F44-7D44EC5EC55C_2_0_a.mov and did that at one point as well
Maze generation + pathfinding
upper sand
i need to work on the maze generation for that website
but i ended up making one for my farming game im workign on, in c# haha
btw look really cool
eternal wing
I forgot what algorithm this is based on, but here is one I did for a challenge.
def solution(x, y):
x = int(x)
y = int(y)
final = 0
while not (x == 1 and y == 1):
print((x, y))
if x <= 0 or y <= 0:
return 'impossible'
if y == 1:
return str(final + x - 1)
else:
final += x//y
x, y = y, x % y
return str(final)
print(solution('4', '7'))
I also kinda forgot what it does
tbh
actually, I dont think this explicitly relates to pathfinding
but close enough
and then I have one for a chess knight
@upper sand
Oh, actually I misread their message, but still.... looking for a doc writer LOL, ok im done, sorry haha
mild abyss
@tranquil orchid so cool
rough sapphire
Hecc can I ask if anyone can tell me if this is actually C++ and what the syntax errors might be? A friend said he needed help with it, but I came to find that his code was copy pasted from his teacher but still wouldn't load
eternal wing
that looks like a c++
rough sapphire
I noticed his teacher was using a 2015 visual studio and he was using 2017, but I'm not sure if there was a difference in versions
rough sapphire
Hmm
eternal wing
youre welcome, bye
rough sapphire
Was there a version jump like between python 2 and 3?
rough sapphire
I have no idea how to do C++
eternal wing
I mean, what are the compile errors?
rough sapphire
I do be a python only boii
eternal wing
!paste
royal lakeBOT
eternal wing
use that
mild abyss
Was there a version jump like between python 2 and 3?
@rough sapphire hmmm yeah i think so. python 2.8 was in beta?? and got abandoned because end of life
oh wait i brainfarted nvm that comment lol
rough sapphire
I mean, what are the compile errors?
@eternal wing From the ones I understood, a syntax error on line 21
eternal wing
wouldnt Num1 through 3 be strings?
rough sapphire
I think he defined it as float in line 8?
Again, I do be blur
Not sure if they were casted to string somewhere along the line
When I looked at the code for him all I could make was that he probably forgot to close his "(string here?)"
Like line 21 has "<<sum<<"newline"
but no close for the first inverted comma
graceful basin
oh, you cannot put string literals across multiple lines like that in CPP
needs a \ at the end of the line
or just linebreak after the operator
graceful basin
also, there is a surplus " at the end of either line
rough sapphire
Lemme check with him
graceful basin
rough sapphire
After the \n?
graceful basin
either quote before << or remove the quote after <<
or not
that is still an error due to the missing \
my bad
rough sapphire
He could alternatively merge those two lines, if I understand correctly?
graceful basin
ye
rough sapphire
Kewlcheese
Thanks, lemme see if I can get it to work
lmao the bugger walked off his PC from online class, but it should do work
Thank you so much guys @graceful basin @eternal wing @mild abyss
eternal wing
Lol, you are welcome for my keen eye identifying that it was, in fact, c++
rough sapphire
the fact that my comrade was so confused, I questioned if he had the wrong language 😂
eternal wing
That is pretty awesome haha.
Always happy to try to help
Welp, I went to python general for about 30 seconds, no need to go back there anytime soon.
upper sand
is it like uni thing or personally picked up language?
mild abyss
is it like uni thing or personally picked up language?
@upper sand hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
upper sand
i was just wondering if he was forced to learn c++ as a part of a course or just choosed it himself to learn @mild abyss
mild abyss
@upper sand okay i was kinda wondering because i was really not readingthe previous convo
upper sand
haha fair enough lol 😄
surreal otter
Glad I went with python first ,SQL is significantly easier once you understand some programming basics
quick ledge
might be good to get the mindset though
upper sand
How
When u learning sql urself
U prob dont look the for thingd like procedure, functions, triggers etc in sql
Well u kinda right, guess it doesnt hurt to have that mindest
And also it was totally my personal pref 👍
surreal otter
Setting up the where clause, understanding the concept of adding truthy and falsey with or / and
Though I imagine had I gone with SQL first, that part of Python would have been easier
but I like how transferrable the knowledge is
it's going much better than I had anticipated
upper sand
Truthy is kinda math
surreal otter
It is math
upper sand
Ye
surreal otter
But it requires thinking a bit different than we're used to
and unless you've done that, it can easily confuse
upper sand
Well like i said its personal perf
I did programming alot in my first sem n when i took sql in my second sem
I couldnt understand shit
surreal otter
IDK about that, I think the knowledge is transferrable, regardless of preference?
I don't need to learn ints vs floats
I understand quickly that spaces must be enclosed in quotes
upper sand
Well im dumb n high most of the time so tbat might be the thimg too bahah
1noiceee
True true
surreal otter
I love me some medical cannabis, but if anything it helps me focus on the work at hand. Though I wouldn't generally consider myself dumb, I do like to play the fool
surreal otter
a few months back
'
according to this script I wrote ~ 4months ago
which dates to when I installed Python and decided to learn to code
upper sand
Cool haha thats really creative
surreal otter
Going to start working on a discord bot soon, just gotta finish another tutorial or two
this one is getting me through some SQL stuff, making a todolist on jetbrains
upper sand
Ohhh btw when u have free time reasearch on dbms too
surreal otter
upper sand
Its personal opinion
rough sapphire
are you trying to learn sql
surreal otter
JS is next on the list, once I've done another month or 2 of Python, maybe sooner
Just ab it of SQL
undone berry
@surreal otter you seem to be missing joins on that plan
surreal otter
joins are overrated
undone berry
and that's probably one of the most powerful parts of SQL
surreal otter
one table is good for me for now
undone berry
they definitely aren't overrated
upper sand
They are basic of basic lol
surreal otter
Trust me, I had to deal with a GUI front end of SQL in my data days at a small bank
I know the importance of joins
undone berry
Honestly, that's probably a bad way to learn SQL. SQL is all about relational data, so stuff like normalisation goes hand in hand with it
upper sand
Well u gotta start somewhere
undone berry
That's fair
rough sapphire
I think it depends.. dml ddl dql, if you're just working with one of these.. there's a lot you can leave out
undone berry
If you're aiming to land a general software dev, then getting the theory down is probably more impotant than the details of different SQL operations
upper sand
And somewhere can't be everywhere
@surreal otter given that its better to undersatnd dmbs concept too lol
rough sapphire
nltk is almost as old as I am
upper sand
Butye all ur gonna do is just writ script to find and filter databse then
rough sapphire
xml in python.. gee wiz
surreal otter
I understand that it'd also be good for me to learn C# and C++, but right now teh focus isn't SQL, SQL Is just a means to an ends
upper sand
That is fine lul
undone berry
what is that ends?
undone berry
in which case, schema definition is more important than half of the stuff on your list
surreal otter
using a DB with 1 table
basically a CSV, in a DB
that will allow me to expand
but for now
I just need the one table
Alpha .0.0.1
so I rather start with the DB
undone berry
if that's your end, you're probably better off going with MongoDB
where you can just throw python dicts in there
surreal otter
which is why someone recommended the todolist on jetbrains
upper sand
Serveless is a go for those kinda stuffs
rough sapphire
depends on the type of databases
there are serverless db's that scale for global workloads.. but the guy is starting off lol let him breathe
upper sand
Oh well u dont have worry about much stuff in serverless databse lol
undone berry
Are there serverless DBs? You surely explicitly don't want your massive DB to be serverless
you want the server to do cacheing and shit
to make sure your queries are fast
(this is me asking for me, definitely not relevant to Gnabergasher)
rough sapphire
yes there are serverless db's these days.. and yep they cache automatically
undone berry
but you want in memory cacheing
which you can't do with serverless
at least that's my understanding
upper sand
Well mongo db has it
undone berry
By serverless database, do you just mean a database that plays nicely with serverless applications?
if so - that's different to what I'm envisaging
upper sand
Ohh
rough sapphire
fully managed https://cloud.google.com/spanner/docs
undone berry
I thought you meant a database that was deployed in the same way as serverless applications
rough sapphire
although, I'm not quite sure of the caching capabilities.. I just know it supports query caching but otherwise, caching is from secondary storage
undone berry
which made no sense to me
lofty dirge
I thought cloud spanner was EOL?
undone berry
but I think i misunderstood
rough sapphire
EOL? that's news to me.. it's one of their key offerings
lofty dirge
Something was
upper sand
Well ye mongo db does query caching but it depends
lofty dirge
Got announcement at work. Read it for like 5 seconds and deleted it
lofty dirge
Since my team doesn’t use GCP
rough sapphire
GCP is nice, for some of their offerings.. better than AWS for some applications
but their pricing though on the lower side is harder to figure out
upper sand
I need to lean aws
undone berry
GCP is the platform i'm slowly forcing myself to use/learn about
upper sand
What was the 12 month tial thingy on aws
undone berry
their stuff seems alright
but i'm not a megacorp
so my needs are simple
i just want to throw docker containers at it
rough sapphire
I'm an expert on GCP data engineering stuff.. and learning Azure nowadays
lofty dirge
GCP is great for small. Terrible for unique enterprise needs
upper sand
What i thought disocrd was using gcp
sand goblet
azure iirc
sand goblet
sorry what, VMs are not cloud
upper sand
I thought it was cloudflare and gc0
sand goblet
what is this half-talk
upper sand
Gcp
lofty dirge
Last massive GCP outage Discord went poof
rough sapphire
what's that media streaming site people use.. for their songs
sand goblet
plex?
round rose
soundcloud?
upper sand
Bahha
round rose
oh
lofty dirge
Running VMs in a cloud isn’t really cloud. That’s refusing to host your own datacenter. Tell me I’m wrong
lofty dirge
More cloudy
undone berry
is probably something like cumulonimbus or something
upper sand
Y use vms when u can just docker
lofty dirge
Docker isn’t replacement for all workloads
rough sapphire
VMs are used interchangeably.. on the cloud they usually refer to physical nodes these days
lofty dirge
Large workloads like database servers make sense as VM
lofty dirge
Can yes, make sense, not really
upper sand
Hmm faur enough i need to dig mkre on the server side after i finish learning rust
Anyways thnx fkr the info
lofty dirge
Docker database servers are great for testing. Just not always prod
upper sand
Ahh i c still need to research on it thnx aagain m8
honest star
Oh fuck yeah, this class has takehome exams and homework is graded for completion not correctness
young shoal
lol
honest star
grad school, it's practically a scam 🙃
But it's for completion because some of the stuff we do is... difficult
Fuck, I need to brush up my linear algebra and my PDEs though
solid pollen
I think I still have this "learn linear algebra using manga" PDF lol
honest star
ha, wait really?
solid pollen
Yup
honest star
that's amazing
honest star
This is amazing and very amusing
upper sand
Ye
rough sapphire
@solid pollen What's the link? It's saying something about signing into Google.
solid pollen
Yeah
The file is on my school account, so Google wants to check if you are in the same Google org first
I'm on phone so I can't change that
rough sapphire
I mean, what's the file though?
solid pollen
"the manga guide to linear algebra"
finite sierra
i see this often and it bugs me
while using google meet, if i make any sounds while my microphone is turned off, it tells me "are you speaking? your microphone is off"
how?! are they blatantly admitting to using the microphone all the time lmao?
upper sand
😏
surreal otter
kittens and puppies, in a box
just get a box of puppies
call it my_favorite_box
why not?
rough sapphire
Like a real box?
Or like ```py
class Box:
How do I Python
It's been a while since I touched the thing
spiral ridge
type
plucky ridge
class Box:
def __init__(self, height, width, depth):
self.height = height
self.width = width
self.depth = depth
def volume(self):
return self.height * self.width * self.depth
More or less
rough sapphire
How do you null-coalesce in Python?
undone berry
you don't :(
rough sapphire
Oh
plucky ridge
What's that?
undone berry
I'm not sure on exactly what null coalescing means, but it's stuff like the elvis operaor in kotlin
stuff like box?.height
undone berry
https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0505/
Here's the pep for it in Python
plucky ridge
Which would give back Some[] or None
Interesting
Sorry, misspoke. It's Optional[]
But I mean you can still do that check with just a if x is None or if x is not None
round rose
you can, but it's kinda verbose
Especially when you chain coalescence
a ?? b ?? c vs a if a is not None else b if b is not None else c
plucky ridge
Yeah but you lose readability super quick that way
Oh no I see what you're saying
I mean you wouldn't phrase it that way, you'd use properly indented if chains
And that wouldn't take up a whole long of room
And is more versatile since you typically have more than just one path to handle
undone berry
@plucky ridge having dealt with lots of nully jsony bullshit in python relatively recently. You get really sick of checking if things are/aren't None - and it spreads what could be concise atomic statements out so much that it negatively effects readability
plucky ridge
Fair point, I hadn't thought about it in that sense
I think there'd have to be a lib or something to make that cleaner, wouldn't there?
Specifically the JSON aspect, I mean
undone berry
I can't really see how it could be cleaner without these operators. You need to check if things are null depending on your own (or the API's own) schema - I can't really envisage a way that a library would smooth that out
plucky ridge
Have it let you fill out a template of how a certain branches' contents should be and have it default all the things that aren't there?
undone berry
in fairness - I didn't look
plucky ridge
Also, using .get() checks would also mitigate a lot of it
hybrid bramble
if you're trying to avoid null don't use .get()
hybrid bramble
get returns regardless of if it's missing or not
undone berry
yeah, it's when you're chaining .get() calls that it gets awkward. I no longer have access to the code, but I really felt like I wrote it in roughly the cleanest way possible
also - some of the code I was working with was doing x or 'default' all over the place - which was terrible because it was just checking for Nones, not for falsey values
or
no
plucky ridge
I mean
plucky ridge
x is not None or "default"
plucky ridge
Which I just realized that wouldn't work
undone berry
but a ?? operator would have bee nice
plucky ridge
Sure but it's just syntactic sugar. There's nothing currently stopping us from writing out the logic. I'm not speaking against it, but I don't see it being like... the top needed feature
undone berry
I agree it's not the top needed feature. But having worked with it in Kotlin, and having worked in Python where it would have made things much more readable, I'd love it if it were implemented
plucky ridge
Fo sho
undone berry
I also haven't managed to find much actual discussion about that PEP
I'd be curious to hear the arguments against it from people smarter than me
plucky ridge
Wonder if anyone in #internals-and-peps might know
undone berry
I've asked there at least once before, and they suggested asking the mailing list iirc
plucky ridge
Guess that makes sense
undone berry
I want this but for that pep essentially https://github.com/markshannon/pep622-critique
(which probably doesn't exist, but i'd just be very curious)
boreal swift
Switch statements got rejected twice
plucky ridge
And is going in for a third
....he says forgetting that 622 IS the pattern matching one
Sheesh
boreal swift
I don't like case _:
lofty dirge
I hate passing null in JSON, we had a customer specifically ask we pass Null for JSON fields we didn't have data for because they didn't believe us when were like "We don't pass fields we don't have data for"
eternal wing
lol, no no the customer always know best 😆
lofty dirge
they didn't want to do if key in dict: I guess
eternal wing
of course not, that would be too easy
lofty dirge
life of enterprise software
halcyon mantle
How come i can’t connect to discord when on this public wifi, but everything else works? And how do i get around it? I tried using a vpn, doesn’t work
eternal wing
Hmmm. I would have guessed they are blocking discord, but the VPN should have fixed that.
narrow pecan
Did you try accessing anything else using the VPN?
Maybe the VPN is blocked, in some way
halcyon mantle
I tried going onto facebook, which worked
And i made a few google searches
Yeah discord wouldn’t load, and the VPN wouldn’t connect
@narrow pecan
narrow pecan
Maybe the VPN is blocked. I suppose that should be possible
You could always use Tor, but that may seem a bit extreme for just using Discord. If Tor is blocked, you could configure bridges for it
I'd recommend that you check the terms that the internet provider has laid out for using the service btw @halcyon mantle
eternal wing
oh very nice, but can you draw a toucan earlier
rancid forge
blurry toucan
gentle moss
not blurry, just fast
undone berry
ideally someone would say "toucan play at that game" and proceed to draw a toucan
but i'm disappointed to see that has not happened
gentle moss
that would be pretty funny
but now that you've said it even if someone was drawing a toucan
it's ruined
but you know @undone berry
toucan playing that game
and with that, bed.
o/
rancid forge
Night
eternal wing
I am nothing but pleased with this chain of events
tranquil orchid
Lmao
plucky ridge
HA, forgot about this ot name
honest star
lmao, what's the story behind this one?
tranquil orchid
How many ot names are there
Surely theres at least 100
Cause i've seen quite a few names
honest star
lmao, this DMV website counts tabs as a character for the password
young shoal
what's the origin of the channel name?
eternal wing
he was probably being a fussy little guy
scenic blaze
young shoal
's so
upper sand
i c
wheat lynx
There are currently 667 ot names
tranquil orchid
oh boy
solid pollen
Only
tranquil orchid
Just one or two
solid pollen
and my name is in one of them yay
tranquil orchid
I got one in there as well
But geez 667
That probably explains why i think i've only seen a duplicate once
wheat lynx
I think I've set... At least 2
Some of them are pretty good though
I mean, some of all of them
tranquil orchid
Yeah theres some good ones lmao
wheat lynx
I wonder how long it would take on average for all the names to come up, I think someone did do the maths on it before.
tranquil orchid
They get changed each day right?
wheat lynx
Yeah
tranquil orchid
Is it in a cycle or just random each time?
wheat lynx
Random each time currently
tranquil orchid
Oh boy yeah it could take a while for everything to show up
wheat lynx
Yeah, it's the sort of thing where you could get through maybe 90% of them relatively quickly, but that last 10% could have you waiting a while
That's maths for ya
Lol
solid pollen
There's a PR to make it so we would see each otn at least once
tame terrace
tranquil orchid
lmao
gentle moss
nice.
eternal wing
I hope someday this is what the aliens find of us.
they could have top experts spend their life's work deciphering the events here. And finding the reason behind knowledgeable toucan
tranquil orchid
It was simply a toucan he drew earlier
eternal wing
Yeah, but how do you explain that in this context?
tranquil orchid
In the context of aliens finding the toucan?
eternal wing
I mean, and bear with me, aliens discover a dusty old server, they boot it up.
They find data logs where some of the brightest minds of programmers all congregated, so they commit top researches to understanding this... only to be memed on and get stuck as to the significance of the toucan... Ok, I admit it is probably too late for me to be on here now xD
ancient minnow
hey guys
im trying to learn asm and couldnt find the syscalls for windows
is there anyone who maybe knows where theyre stored?
ancient minnow
thanks, ill look into that
ancient minnow
you mean my usrname?
its because a lot of people were called petr in this server
or something similar to petr
so every time someone would try to @ me they would @ the wrong person
tranquil orchid
new partners pog
upper sand
I just found a dis server where girls make guys do their homework lmfaooo ripooo
🚮
Smh
sand goblet
Sounds pretty trash to me
Actually it sounds like it might break the discord rules potentially
upper sand
I think it does. i reported it anyways
sand goblet
Good stuff
rough sapphire
wow.. what horrible horrible people
gentle moss
"make" is doing some heavy lifting there
so i just drove into town to try and get some groceries, they dug up the central crossroads and blocked all traffic to it
but hadn't put up any signs
so when i get near the crossroads i just see 4 HGV's stacked up trying to reverse back up so they can turn around in a tiny, very steep, cul-de-sac
exceptional work from highway maintenance there
lost vortex
Can someone help me here
all my other imports work fine, but this file refuses to import app and db
versed saffron
the py version might not be supported?
lost vortex
oh.. let me check
when I have the viewer_grabber.py outside of my package, those imports work just fine
also been using the same version of python even tho i did update
upper sand
U def need to go through package n mod doc for this, to check how it works
But did u fix it @lost vortex
?
lost vortex
@upper sand i havent but im trying to revert back to 3.8.3
since 3.8.5 this has been a problem
upper sand
Like i said u sud checkout docs how to implement it pacakges and modules for better understanding
lost vortex
oh
upper sand
Ye its not ver issue
lost vortex
ill read the docs than, thanks
upper sand
Sweet best of luck
lost vortex
lucid hamlet
Yo, that's really cool.
plucky ridge
You can see where I might have thought it was a negative
honest star
Hem.. what's the context of this channel name?
lucid hamlet
Oh wait...
plucky ridge
I at one point said "I'm probably just being a fussy butt."
And Ves almost instantly made it an ot name
Because friends
honest star
nice
plucky ridge
@rough sapphire I really appreciate you sharing that. Very interesting article as well
plucky ridge
Either or