#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 428

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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@gentle moss Wish I could but with the missus being vegetarian...

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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no one ever cleans them properly

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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awww

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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get you a dishwasher

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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we have one but we mostly handwash the sieves

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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and I don't mean the machine

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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on the subject of rice, the worst failure to cook rice i've ever seen was a mate of mine

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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ah

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lol

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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I mean a little Peruvian boy

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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we were playing ARMA and he brb'd to put on some rice

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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or a massive peruvian wrestler

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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3 hours later someone was like

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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@high verge I never use that when making rice. I typically just swish the rice and water in the bowl that's part of the rice cooker, then just filter it off using my hand to keep the rice in

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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"how's your rice doing?"

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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yeah i do the same with pasta

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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and we just heard "OH FUCK"

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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I end up rinsing the rice like 6 times until the water is nearly clear

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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then lose it all in the sink :(

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:46 PM

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why would you handwash sieves? So much easier in a dishwasher

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 1:47 PM

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@gentle moss HA

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:47 PM

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some crashing and banging

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he filled his entire house with fucking rice smoke

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burned it to the pan

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:47 PM

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there's no point lower in cooking than eating pasta that's fallen into the sink when its full of food

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yeah i imagine the pan was pretty ruined

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like that ramen mending thing

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just use rice

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:47 PM

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his house stank, landlord was not pleased

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:47 PM

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In fairness that's mostly the epoxy doing the work

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The ramen was just filler

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Could have used toilet paper

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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'would you like some rice landlord?'

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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i only learned about toilet paper + superglue as a trick to patch stuff together

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like last week

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Yep

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It's like friggin' magic

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Arma is probably one of the few multiplayer games where you could leave to make dinner and no one would notice for a while

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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i've just been mutilating other plastic items to create a "bridge" between objects

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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possibly with the exception of club penguin

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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I HATE that engine

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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:)

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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I don't understand how people enjoy playing ARMA

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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its a special little one

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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@high verge You can play OpenTTD as multiplayer

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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It's so clunky

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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i enjoyed the mods

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Like basic movement just HURTS

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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epoch / dayz

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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once you get used to it it's pretty fun

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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and yeah, it feels clunky as fuck but that's what you get for realism

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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i normally just play around in the mission editor

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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one thing i will praise it for is "alt look"

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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?

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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I remember playing DayZ with some crazy Dutch dude

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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being able to move the viewport but not the direction of travel or aim

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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and we played all day on saturday, went to bed

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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oh god i do not like the a3 scifi aesthetic

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like

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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by holding a button

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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but he was still playing on Sunday

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Oh that's helpful yeah

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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apparently it was actually going to be all alien and future-y

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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and he just did like a 50 hour gaming session for no reason

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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but they toned it down

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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wow

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Although I kind of instinctively do that anyway

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:50 PM

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he just spent like 6 hours fishing I now remember

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:50 PM

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i think the longest session on arma dayz was probably ~16 hours

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:50 PM

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get back - and there's just a truck full of fucking fish

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:50 PM

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haha

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:50 PM

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It's a Jesus miracle!

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:50 PM

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i used to do that in WoW

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sigh

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Make trucks full of fish?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:50 PM

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had to wait for herbs to come back so do some fishing.

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end up with more fish than herbs

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:51 PM

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HA

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Fishing was about all I ever did in Runescape

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Fishing and burying bones

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No idea why

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:51 PM

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there are certain other games which involve uh

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burying bones

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i don't tend to play those

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:51 PM

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hmmm? Could you expand on that?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:51 PM

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dinosaur bones?

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:51 PM

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expand eh?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:51 PM

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is it a god simulator?

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:52 PM

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It's an innuendo

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:52 PM

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I'm not sure I follow - perhaps you could fill me in?

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:52 PM

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HEYO

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:52 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/nice-south-park-gif-13267690

Tenor

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 1:52 PM

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if you had a party for all the people with yellow names here, would you call it a helper function?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:52 PM

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i'd like to continue this conversation but i have to shoot

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:53 PM

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@high verge I mean, I know that I would but I'd get booed out of the room for it

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Bisk right now

📎 10125262_ActivSheet.png

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Dude, okay

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Seriously

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Over unders are fucking magic to shoot

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:54 PM

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I have 0 idea what that means

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I gotta admit

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:54 PM

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So when you normally think of a double barrel shotgun, it's a side by side

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The two barrels are next to each other

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:54 PM

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the Dude, okay and Seriously made me worried for a second

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:54 PM

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An over under is one on top of the other

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:54 PM

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side by sides have left->right tracking issues

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it is a bit of a pain

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and right to left

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:55 PM

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My first time shooting a gun was going with my dad and a friend of his to a trap and skeet range and we borrowed his over-under

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Just magic

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I don't hunt, I don't carry a gun for protection, but I would LIVE at a trap range

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That's so relaxing to me

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:55 PM

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it's good fun

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:55 PM

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is trap clay pigeons?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:55 PM

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yup

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Yep

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If I remember correctly, trap is one clay and skeet is two? Per round

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Hunting is the main kind of shooting that appeals to me. I have a friend who's incredibly good with a bow/arrow at targets, but refuses to go hunting - and it makes me sad

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:56 PM

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trap is launched from a single position

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Oh that's right

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:56 PM

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skeet is multiple positions

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Been like 12 years since I went

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:57 PM

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the most fun i've had with trap was when my dads shop got an electronic clay launcher

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that thing could just pop pop pop them out so fast

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launch 5 clays and try to hit all with a semi-auto

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fun fun fun

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:57 PM

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So rad

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:57 PM

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very expensive in shells

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Well yes

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:57 PM

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how much are shells usually?

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Did he load his own?

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 1:58 PM

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on a £/shell basis?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:59 PM

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having to look that up

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it's been a while

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 1:59 PM

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The site I'm looking at is about $10 for 25 shells

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 1:59 PM

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£4.64 for a box of 25 is about as cheap as you get

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Damn

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That's not too shabby

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:00 PM

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oh no, gamebore do some at £3.92

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:00 PM

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that's pretty damn cheap

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I was expecting like £1/shell or something

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:00 PM

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you get through 25 pretty quickly

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:01 PM

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It's why I in general prefer shooting .22lr

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:01 PM

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we talking about pew pews?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:01 PM

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a good shoot is probably about 100 rounds

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Yeppers

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:01 PM

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fun

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ive never shot a guns o

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*so

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:02 PM

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it's quite an experience

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:02 PM

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im 13 lol

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:02 PM

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i first shot a shotgun when i was 9

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pistol when i was 7

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:02 PM

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dang nice

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:02 PM

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dad runs a gunshop so not a surprise

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Theres' this whole thing about gun control and both sides have good points

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It's interesting lol

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:03 PM

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i'm british

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:03 PM

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You have to treat them with a lot of respect

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:03 PM

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and both sides do not have good points

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one side is awful and the other side is asking for common sense

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:03 PM

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but something in the middle is best lol

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:03 PM

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pistol when i was 7
i first shot a shotgun when i was 9
A man when I was 11

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:03 PM

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yea

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:03 PM

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hah

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:03 PM

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and which side is awful

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Free guns for everyone

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:03 PM

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the pro-gun rights side.

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:03 PM

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That one

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Makes sense

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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simply put, after the UK and Australia banned lots of guns directly after mass shootings

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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The fact that they fight so heavily against basic background checks is fucked up

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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mass shootings just stopped

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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ya

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Where as we're on the rise

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Would make it easier to build a revolutionary militia

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Again

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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chicago in trobule

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*trouble

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crazy how many people die there :/

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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chicago has decent gun laws for their state

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the problem is the next door state does not

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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yea

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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^^

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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so people just get them from there.

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Missouri

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Missurrraahhh

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Missssssurrahhh

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:05 PM

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We have the most lax gun laws and I haaaaaaate it

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HAAAAAAAAAATE it

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:05 PM

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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE it

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:05 PM

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I don't remember if you said - but do you own a gun @plucky ridge ?

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:05 PM

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how often do you come across an admin that is actually a person and talks to people normally

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:05 PM

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@undone berry I own 2

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:05 PM

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half the time they ignore you lol *most of the time in other servers

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:05 PM

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every day.

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Both purely for recreational target shooting

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I don't even keep ammunition in the house

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Yeah - fair enough. I think if it was sensible, I'd own a gun as well

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but I can't

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:06 PM

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yea

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Target shooting is more of a PITA in the UK

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:06 PM

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recreational target shooting seems fun lol

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:06 PM

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tbh i'm not fussed about getting a real bang bang

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air rifle shooting is fine

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Same

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:06 PM

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pretty much like 22lr without a kick

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Yep, but cheaper

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:06 PM

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waaaaay cheaper

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especially a spring gun

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Which is crazy considering how cheap 22lr is already

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM

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plus you get to build one beefy muscle

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM

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that sounds cheap "spring gun"

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Eh

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM

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spring guns are not cheap ¬_¬

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM

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it sounds so cheap lol

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM

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The air ones are

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM

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hmmmmm - I had an air rifle when I was a kid

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I dunno what happened to it

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM

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The like... Daisy Red Rider ones

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM

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probably my mum got rid of it

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM

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📎 springerbest5.png

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nom nom nom nom

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM

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people can survive 20 shots sometimes

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7 in the head

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Oh man that's svelte

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I've got an airpump one as well

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:08 PM

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i've only got a little gammo spring gun

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and a co2 capsule rifle

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:08 PM

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@undone berry So I guess technically 3 firearms

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:08 PM

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and a .177 co2 capsule air pistol

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:08 PM

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eh - I dunno, I wouldn't count air rifles as firearms - but I dunno if they technically count

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Eh, I was happy with the pump. Was like... $40ish?

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:08 PM

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have u guys ever shot a sniper?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:09 PM

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not sure how to answer that question

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you mean a big bore rifle with a scope?

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if so then i guess?

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not a 50cal or anything

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:09 PM

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like intervention or something like that

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idk

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Oh man, I was at the range one time and this guy let my brother and I shoot a .44 magnum

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:09 PM

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at like a range or something

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ooooh magnum

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:10 PM

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You shoot and it's just bright white

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:10 PM

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bet that had some kick too

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:10 PM

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You know, it did but not nearly as bad as I thought it would be

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I think I was just ready for it and bracing properly

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They were hand loaded rounds, too

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So I think they were slightly hotter than normal

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Was an interesting experience, to say the least

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:11 PM

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can imagine

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Not really for me, though

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I'm too practical

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Like I get the appeal but.... eh.

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:12 PM

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What are things that come to mind when I say abandoned castle

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Like what's inside one

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Dust, Spider webs, uhhhhh

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Bats

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:13 PM

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ghosts, chains, crumbling walls, dilapidated furniture, skeletons, dungeons, broken windows

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:13 PM

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^

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:13 PM

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ooh thanks

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im tryna write story

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Graffiti...

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Ooh yes

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Beer bottles, other trash left by people

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:13 PM

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writing is fun

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:13 PM

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can be

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:13 PM

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there's loads of graffiti in old buildings

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like 400 year old graffiti

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:14 PM

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The occasional homeless person

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:14 PM

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someone put effort to chisel in

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:14 PM

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lol dang

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:14 PM

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@plucky ridge you're too grounded in reality

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Yes.

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Yes I am

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Loll

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:14 PM

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I embraced getting older with open arms

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:14 PM

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need to get you out of reality somewhat - I'd reccomend either fantasy books or something more extreme...

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more extreme and more rule 5 breaking

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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📎 durham-cathedral.png

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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I mean I do have a whimsical mind and CAN have all that, but eh

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Do not provide or request help on projects that may break laws, breach terms of services, be considered malicious/inappropriate or be for graded coursework/exams.

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that?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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the oldest one at durham cathedral i think is this

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📎 p2_exeter-graffiti.png

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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if your first thought about abandoned castles is beer bottles

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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o wwo

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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you need some more whimsy in yer life

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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^lol

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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@undone berry It wasn't, though

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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true

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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It was bats

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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it was bats

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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his first thing was bats

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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and bats is a good one

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good point

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:15 PM

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yes

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:16 PM

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And then you covered the rest

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:16 PM

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oh no, that's in exeter. nvm

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:16 PM

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So I had to think on my feet

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:16 PM

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big.

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brain.

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:16 PM

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That wasn't the rest. THere's also crowns, and abandoned piles of gold, and giant spiders, and mounds of cobwebs, and secret chapels, and wells with no bottom, and secret cults

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(i'm joking, I'm reaching here - I did steal all of the cool things)

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:17 PM

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lmaoo

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Now let me ask you

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Well sure, there's also doors that lead to a netherworld, ancient stone tablets telling tales of the battles of old, possibly old armor and weapons left broken and abandoned.

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Something more realistic...hmm

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What do you think of when I say...

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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does it have to be realistic?

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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But sometimes you need realism to make the whimsy more fantastic

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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what's your actual task?

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@plucky ridge that's very true

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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What's a item

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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tbh i prefer hemlocks post-modern take on what's in a castle

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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gimme a item

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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an item is just a thing - a phone, chair, window etc

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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ok

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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crown

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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what do you think when i say phone

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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i would've gone with a useless old hag who sponges off tax payer money.

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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boring

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dull

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go away

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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HA

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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"fuck off and stop ringing"

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:18 PM

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lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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so we have fantasy, and reality man

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:19 PM

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I wish someone would set me english homework again

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:20 PM

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write me a haiku about a fish with two feet

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Go read To Kill a Mocking Bird and then write me a 20 page essay on the deeper meanings of the story

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:20 PM

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the thing about me being set english homework was that I never did it unless I thought it was fun

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poetry and TKAM are not fun

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:20 PM

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https://repl.it/@JonathanLin6/RPGProject#main.py

repl.it

JonathanLin6

RPG_Project

A Python repl by JonathanLin6

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my beginning story part

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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i love the fact the sequel to To Kill a Mocking Bird made whatshisface out to be some virtue signaling guy who didn't actually care about the content of the case.

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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(clearly i dont realy know what im doing)

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Aticus Finch I think?

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Ooh i read kill mocking bird a fewm onths ago

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Something like that?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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yeah

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that's the fella

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Atticus Fitch iirc

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Ah right, two t's

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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nope

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finch

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Go set a watchman?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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yeah, the 2nd book, iirc, goes into how he was doing it from prestige or w/e and didn't care about the outcome or trial

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Back in the day, his actor had all the girls swooning

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:22 PM

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i forget because fuck it

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Oh i havent read that

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I've heard its just random

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and not related

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to tkam

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:22 PM

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it's definitely related

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people don't like it though because it spoils the message of the first book

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womp womp

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:22 PM

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womp womp

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Ooooo oh oh oh oh oh. https://reasonml.org/docs/reason-compiler/latest/new-bucklescript-syntax Dude, okay, I'm really stoked about these syntax changes. Sorry, it's just in my mind

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Didn't it get released when Harper Lee was like 90?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:22 PM

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it did indeed

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i think there was some hubub about it being a cash-in or something

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:23 PM

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probably a reason for that - she was too sensible to release it any earlier

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Hey anyone wanna help me modify a channel
pls
guys
I want to make my channel look better but need some help pls

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:23 PM

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i mean yeah, it's an iconic piece of literature used as a teaching aid in the US

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:23 PM

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And it sucks

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:23 PM

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i didn't finish it

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because it sucked.

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Eh - I read it without being forced and thought it was alright

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Like most books you're forced to read in English

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM

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so i watched the movie instead

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM

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^ lol

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM

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and the movie was okay

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM

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@simple sand How do you mean?

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM

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whats wrong with english books

short beacon Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM

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most books you're forced to rad

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read

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM

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so maybe if i finished the book it'd have been better

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM

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I HATED Lord of the Flies

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM

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It's definitely pretty on the nose and overblown, like 1984 and a lot of other similar books - but enjoyable enough

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM

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what

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Golding is so damn hard to read

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so dense

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:25 PM

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there is a book called lord of the flies

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Yes

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And it's a miserable experience

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:25 PM

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then read better books

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Lord of the Flies, A.K.A. what happens when a bunch of entitled middle class children get dumped on an island.

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:25 PM

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science fiction books are the greatest

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like greatest among the greatest

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Well yeah of course we read better books now

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:25 PM

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I know the story of Lord of Flies from just general pop culture - but I could never make it through the book despite the fact I know I'd like the plot

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:25 PM

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But these were ones that were required reading for school

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:25 PM

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oh

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those

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books

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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you know it was written as a kind of response to another authors work Charlie?

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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yeah

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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I feel like Lord of The Flies would make a wonderful series

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Yes. That's what I meant by the english books bit

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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some of them are booring

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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no - I didn't know that

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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some dude wrote a book about how if some entitled middle class children got stuck on an island it'd be a utopia

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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doesn't really change my opinion about it

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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@rough sapphire I don't often call people a psychopath, but....

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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ah

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sure

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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and what did u mean by @simple sand how do u mean

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Golding read that

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and was like

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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that makes sense

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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"lol no"

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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@plucky ridge I mean, it would be a wonderful series if done right.

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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I don't think any series focused on kids would work well

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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I mean....

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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kids are little shits

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Lost

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There, it's done better

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Lost was trash though

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Lost fucking sucks

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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huh

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Yet better than LotF

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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hmmmm

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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LotF has a good plot

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just hard to read writing

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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sorry, i'm just trying to remember the plot of lost

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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I'm not super keen on torturing of your fellow man and child killing

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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and my brain decided to shut down

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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yeah

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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well - that doesn't make it bad

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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@gentle moss that means you remembered it

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:27 PM

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i need help

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to modify a channel

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that is

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:28 PM

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yeah but we're talking about books

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:28 PM

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@simple sand go ask in ot0

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:28 PM

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check out the #❓｜how-to-get-help channel

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and use the system

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:28 PM

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If it's for Python

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:28 PM

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or check in the #discord-bots channel if you're doing it with a bot

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:28 PM

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If not then yeah, OT.

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:28 PM

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or try another ot channel

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:28 PM

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point is: not here

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:28 PM

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LOL

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:29 PM

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i really need to read a fiction book soon

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Point could have been made a bit more softly, gents

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Fiction books are very good

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would recommend

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:29 PM

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they're unreal

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¬_¬

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:29 PM

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thats why they are good

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they have imagination

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:29 PM

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@gentle moss But can they host a tournament?

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:30 PM

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I've seen several tournaments between books

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:30 PM

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a tournament of what readinng books???

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:30 PM

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uh

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SPFBO is one that I can think of off the top of my head

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:30 PM

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that exists

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:30 PM

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a book off

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:30 PM

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like book tournament

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Self-Published Fantasy Blog Off

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:30 PM

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It was an Unreal Tournament joke

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I'm not making good ones today

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:31 PM

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well if the books are real, it's not really an unreal tournament

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more of a real tournament about unreal things

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:31 PM

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yeah, you're a bit off hemlock

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99 not there.

simple sand Jul 23, 2020, 2:31 PM

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whats the point of books reading tournament

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:32 PM

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because it's Unreal Tournament 99

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Was that added retroactively?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:32 PM

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i think it was added in the GOTY edition

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they took an interesting approach with yearly naming after that though

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Ah right right

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:33 PM

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UT2k3, UT2k4

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:33 PM

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How can people work 9-5? I've worked for like 2 hours, and spent the rest of the day BSing in here - and I still want to go to bed right now

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:33 PM

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then UT3

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:33 PM

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@undone berry Time flies when you have stuff to do or you don't have access to a compy

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:34 PM

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yeah, pissing about in here is how we get through the 9-5

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otherwise i'd just be reading the news or some shit

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:34 PM

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I have stuff to do though - I just don't want to do it right now

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:34 PM

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oh, i'm doing audits

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so that's a whole lot of waiting

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:34 PM

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I think my problem is just a lack of work ethic

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lazy bastard

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:34 PM

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nice

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hi5

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same boat.

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:34 PM

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I just don't have a lot on my plate

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:35 PM

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if it's not something fun or new to do or get invested in it's kinda just meh

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 2:36 PM

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what are you auditing?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:36 PM

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right now i'm doing an audit of windows patch levels and an audit of a company's powershell versions to see if i need to upgrade them before i can run a script to disable USB media

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i'm always auditing windows patch levels

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fucking sticky wicket of a problem at the moment

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we're at 65 - 70% "fully patched" consistently

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and our RMM tool is not being helpful as to tell us why the other ~30% isn't patching in line with the rest

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Doesn't help that Microsoft keeps putting out breaking patches

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:37 PM

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out of band patches aren't so much the issue

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moving over from Win7 patching structure to Win10 patching structure is just... urg

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you have far less control about when / what something patches

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and the RMM tool itself, as admitted by Datto, has problems getting patching information from the Windows API

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so that ~30% patching gap could just be a false report

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but we have no idea

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Good ol' Datto

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:39 PM

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some parts of the RMM tool i really like, but it's absolute garbage compared to the control and quality of ConnectWise (formerly Labtech)

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doing any sort of review or audit of systems is much harder

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Labtech would store info about a machine in a database on a server, so you could query practically anything you wanted even if the machine was off

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in Datto it has to go and directly communicate with the agent to get information

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Probably a really stupid question, but would doing something like a system file check help on those 30% possibly?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:40 PM

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which means if Ian from Accounting turned his computer off and is out for the week

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he doesn't get caught in the audit

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Just to make sure it's not some weird system file conflict keeping things from going through?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:41 PM

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systems are fine. there are identical systems but one will patch and one wont

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and it's not consistently the same machines, which is a head fuck

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:41 PM

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I know you can wake on LAN but is there a power on on LAN?

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:42 PM

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wake on LAN is power on LAN

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Ah, so it'll do both

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Okay

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I thought it only worked from a sleep state

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:42 PM

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nah, it'll work from off

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Datto's WoL feature leaves a lot to be desired.

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it requires you to have a probe/node in the network

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which if they've got a server or a dedicated PC for us, is fine

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we just make that the node

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Would it not be wiser to do a PS script to push the wake signal to all of the systems before doing the RMM stuff?

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Or is that not really an option

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:43 PM

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but if they're just a company with PC's and no server

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not really an option

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:43 PM

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I'm probably asking dumb stuff, sorry

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:43 PM

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nah

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:43 PM

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This is the side I don't get to see much of

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:43 PM

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perfectly reasonable suggestions

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Like all of this for our systems is handled by our contractors

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Okay, so just so I'm on the same page, is it program updates that aren't syncing properly or system updates

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:45 PM

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windows updates

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Gotcha

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Well I don't know if it helps, but from my experience over the last month there have been lots of updates they've pushed that required me to do a sfc /scannow just to get things working properly again. Or the Windows Update troubleshooter.

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No particular reason WHY it seems to be doing it, but thems the breaks

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:46 PM

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yeah, if it was a consistent problem with certain machines that'd make sense

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but it's a roaming issue

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Oh no

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It's not a consistent per machine thing

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I had these things trigger on machines that never had issues previously

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:47 PM

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yeah but if that was the problem it wouldn't update until you sfc'd, right?

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Yes and no

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Some apply, some don't

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I really don't have an in depth reason or explanation.

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:48 PM

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and that's not what we're seeing. we're seeing Machine A be in the 30% one month

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then be fully patched next month

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but all of a sudden Machine B is in the 30%, when last month it was fine

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:48 PM

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But like you said, it's hard to trust that metric since even the vendor says it's not reliable

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:49 PM

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yeah, and we're not the only ones complaining

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i've got a meeting with one of their RMM technical people sometime next month

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Would you be okay with keeping me in the loop with that? We don't use that particular system, but it does have me curious and might shed light on other issues here

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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sure

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i love to bitch about patching

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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HA

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Part of the fun of IT is getting to rant, honestly

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 2:53 PM

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got a sticker on the back of my office chair

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"patching will continue until security improves"

plucky ridge Jul 23, 2020, 2:53 PM

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That's brilliant

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 3:00 PM

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I've done something stupid. I forgot to commit my changes and deleted the folder

quick ledge Jul 23, 2020, 3:00 PM

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F

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 3:01 PM

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I was creating my own authentication/authorization stuff in my API just to learn how to do it :(

quick ledge Jul 23, 2020, 3:01 PM

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ahh

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 3:01 PM

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I'm a lazy f, so I'm gonna learn how to use Firebase instead 👀

quick ledge Jul 23, 2020, 3:01 PM

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lol

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 3:02 PM

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They have everything there, authentication, database etc. It's heaven

olive schooner Jul 23, 2020, 6:04 PM

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any good website dev suggestions?

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 6:23 PM

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what kind of websites?

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i was thinking about making a troll site that just displayed trump tweets

olive schooner Jul 23, 2020, 6:25 PM

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any kind

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jus wanna make something good

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 6:25 PM

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I decided to make the default todo app everyone makes to try out their first frontend framework. I'm adjust to how different it is from what Im used to.

But I didnt really follow a guide exactly, I just looked a project and tried to make it be my own thing by looking at how the components seem to work and looking up the directives, which i still dont get how to do everything i need to do yet.

I want to actually have it able to be a download manager instead of a todo list but i figured that the todo list exercise would work for adding urls to a list.

📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

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i dont really like webdev

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but it seems tho

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its still very relevant

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and popular

olive schooner Jul 23, 2020, 6:26 PM

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thats pretty good

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web dev will always be relevant and popular

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Yeah, but the thing is that the approach to web dev will probably not always be the same one as there are already a millions things in the tech stack that you can pick from and match together for different things.

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i hate doing the front end stuff

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like making ur thing look nice and all

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Yeah, it's not my favorite thing either but I have some ability to do it. The thing is, I can only do it with CSS really up until now. And very minimal vanilla JS which isnt needed too much for anything.

olive schooner Jul 23, 2020, 6:28 PM

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hmm

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 6:28 PM

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But as far as massive front JS development, I dont like a lot of things about it.

olive schooner Jul 23, 2020, 6:28 PM

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any suggestions for some useful sites that i can make?

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I mean... So do you want to make a web application or something that serves content? Like, is it a utility, or a blog, forum, image sharing thing?

graceful basin Jul 23, 2020, 6:29 PM

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make some board games

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 6:29 PM

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In my opinion if its the latter, a front end framework is stupid to waste time on.

graceful basin Jul 23, 2020, 6:29 PM

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there are not enough board game implementations online

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 6:29 PM

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If its the former... you sort of have to

olive schooner Jul 23, 2020, 6:29 PM

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latter

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i mean theres a reason for that

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 6:30 PM

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board game implementations would be cool - especially if you could be bothered to figure out the networking to make it very multiplayer

graceful basin Jul 23, 2020, 6:30 PM

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^

olive schooner Jul 23, 2020, 6:30 PM

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ya but running good board games online is a tedious task i wouldd say

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 6:30 PM

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MapTool and the Suite by RPTools is very hackable and can feasibly support any form of board game you took the time to give it support for, with multi player.

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tbh i feel if the person can use it its good enough

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no need to be pretty

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and nice lookin

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Its built for Dungeons and Dragons, which.... with effort you can learn to use it without knowing Java and such and learning its macro code system

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rather rip a template off of someplace

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But you could feasibly have it work for any board game that exists

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The community is fairly cool. I try to look at their code base from time to time but... because it can already handle most things you would want to tweak it to do without breaking out the source code, i just dont

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And Im not good enough at Java yet to feel comforable with how big the code base is anyway

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but yeah, the most weird board game you could buy from some board game enthusiast shop, you could set up MapTool to run it.

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IF you really wanted it

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https://www.rptools.net/toolbox/maptool/

RPTools

MapTool

Don’t let the name fool you, MapTool is far more than just maps. While it does include powerful tools for the creation of detailed maps, its primary role is a Virtual Table Top replacing pen,…

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 6:35 PM

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I'm guessing it's not rules enforced

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which you really want from a board game client

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and for automatic actions to be automatic

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(with appropriate prompts and notifications and whatnot)

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 6:35 PM

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You can program buttons to automatically calculate things from numerics builds into tokens. Its extremely hackable.

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By default it makes most sense for D&D players who are not tech savy

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but if you are, you can do it

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You can play cards

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anyway

graceful basin Jul 23, 2020, 6:36 PM

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btw, turn based games are great to write in functional languages as state machines

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tic tac toe is a great beginner elm project for example

undone berry Jul 23, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Something like monopoly seems like it would be rubbish in FP - obviously that's a bit of an extreme example, but lots of board games are all about managing what belongs to who

graceful basin Jul 23, 2020, 6:37 PM

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well, it is all still state transitions. Though Elm may be a bit too inexpressive for monopoly, purescript with some clever lenses would probably do fine

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Man, I feel like I learned the proper separation of coners with HTML, CSS, and JS to make it managable, and now this component thing has got me having to figure it out all over again. I get it to an extent, but Im starting to get the feeling that Im storing values or whatever in the wrong components.

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Similar to how I used to realize that I was storing things that beloing in a CSS file in my HTML or something likethat

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I need to do more reading now. After that experiment with the todolist thing, I now have mainly a need for more knowledge of how to organize this to do more.

graceful basin Jul 23, 2020, 7:55 PM

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In [213]: a = np.array([0], dtype=object)

In [214]: a[0] = a

In [215]: a
Out[215]: array([array(..., dtype=object)], dtype=object)
```numpy is smart

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 7:58 PM

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@wanton dagger Wrong user? 😄

wanton dagger Jul 23, 2020, 8:00 PM

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bruh

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 8:02 PM

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( You @ me - https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/587375768556797982/735868479256789183 )

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 8:51 PM

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i made my first uber eats delivery today ^.^

round rose Jul 23, 2020, 8:52 PM

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how was it?

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 8:52 PM

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hows the pay

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2 trips, got $12. i use my bike, so no gas costs :') i would have done more but my phone decided to die ):

spiral ridge Jul 23, 2020, 8:54 PM

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quick phresh cash

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 8:54 PM

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yea

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and uber lets you cash out immedately straight to a debit card

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so much quick

round rose Jul 23, 2020, 8:54 PM

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that's nice

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 8:55 PM

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chicago traffic was a nightmare - i was downtown, cuz, well more people, and y e a a a

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some of those streets are not very bike friendly

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cars go honk

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and a bus blobfearsweat

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but the streets r flat tho right

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ye

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so there isnt crazy hills

round rose Jul 23, 2020, 8:55 PM

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haha pedestrian go splat

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 8:56 PM

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i go n y o o m

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i can keep up 12-15mph on a bike so that helps

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well 12-15 on this particular bike

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i can keep 17 on bikes that are geared higher , i.e. a 3x9

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i wonder if they make generators that you put on a bike 🤔

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oh like those motors

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haha pedestrian go splat
@round rose r u d e

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yea but backwards

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that bike for u

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i dont need the bike to move for me

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i have legs smh

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lol

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just something to make a bit of power to charge my phone :')

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but i think those motors lets u go faster

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eh i like biking cuz effort

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maybe solder sth sketchy together

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like a magnet and a coil of wire

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xD

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it's a nice addition to working at walmart tho

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walmart kinda bleh

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is it cuz the ppl dont wear masks

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they cant get in without one :')

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but we're just so shortstaffed

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everyone is strained, especially the front end

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i'm a cashier by title, but i run self-checkout and get carts when needed

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cool

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yea

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its kinda like musical chairs some days tho

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i dont have job lol

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oofs

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yeah

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big oof

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just

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uh

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demand one

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owo

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lol

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Just go into wherever you want to work and demand one

@rough sapphire probably

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i used to have a part time doing stats entry

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xd

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o

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but the sports season ended

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heck

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make a new sport >:)

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lol

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since it's your sport, you do what you want

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job security: 100

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lololol

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:')

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wonder when the coin shortage is gonna end

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there is a shortage of coins?

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yea

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cuz corona

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i rarely use coins tho

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cuz i find its a hassle to carry around

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people couldnt change their coins to bills at banks cuz they were closed
mints were closed
people dont carry coins, so the store loses coins and gains bills

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i had to give someone $1 cuz my drawer didnt have coins for 30c change :')

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oof

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ye

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i feel if they didnt have such weird prices

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xd

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like 1.some weird decimal

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walmart has a system for the last digit tho

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really?

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do they truncate or sth

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sec

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lemme find the exact system

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Walmart is very sneaky with its markdown system, so here's a breakdown of how it works so you can actually score the best deal: Prices ending in "7" display the item's original price; prices ending in "5" come after the item's first markdown; and those ending in "1" or "0" signify the final markdown.

For example, if you see a product marked at $49.97, then you know that it's the original price and should wait for markdowns. When the product is marked down for the first time, it will be priced at something like $39.95. Finally, when it's marked down for the last time, it will most likely be sold somewhere around $29.91.

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https://bestlifeonline.com/walmart-shopping-tips/

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🤯

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no clue why but yea it exists xd

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apparently by reducing by a couple of cents it makes ppl think the item is cheaper than it is

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but then u get the issue with having to give ppl change of 5 cents

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i mean thats usually no big deal

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but when u dont have any coins

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we have to round change up

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does america still use 1 cent

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or sth

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ye

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Is posting somewhat big code on Discord considered posting text walls?

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you should use

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!paste

royal lakeBOT Jul 23, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pydis.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the floppy disk icon in the top right, or by typing ctrl + S. After doing that, the URL should change. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

rough sapphire Jul 23, 2020, 10:01 PM

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for that

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No, no, no, no, I'm just asking, IK that paste services exist, but I mean like 500 characters of code, maybe even 1,000?

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If they're in a code block of course.

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It depends on the channel. Obviously you can send huge chunks of codes in the help channels, but I wouldn't dump them in #python-discussion

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So if I post like 800 characters of code in a server that isn't related to programming whatsoever considered posting text walls?

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If it doesn't serve a higher purpose, I'd say it is

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Right, then I've been commiting crime until now. ☠️ Thanks

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 10:46 PM

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🚔

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 10:56 PM

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heeeyyyyooooo

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etiquette bisk coming in here to drop some general best practices on what not to do

red willow Jul 23, 2020, 10:56 PM

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listens patiently

gentle moss Jul 23, 2020, 10:57 PM

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@rough sapphire, if it takes up more than half a screen in a standard 16:9 format, use a pastebin

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it makes the threads of a conversation, even a help discussion, more easy to maintain track of.

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line count is far more important than character count

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because then you might just be pushing other stuff off the screen and people haaaate scrolling.

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class dismissed. o/

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Etiquette Bisk is definitely an indie band

high verge Jul 23, 2020, 11:37 PM

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my windows key stopped working

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both of them

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nothing else isn't working

rough sapphire Jul 24, 2020, 1:39 AM

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F

tacit flint Jul 24, 2020, 2:25 AM

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17% of the keys in my keyboard don't work

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and that's a lot

rough sapphire Jul 24, 2020, 3:00 AM

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as long as u have asdw working

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and space

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ur good lol

rough sapphire Jul 24, 2020, 4:17 AM

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#discord-bots

dapper jasper Jul 24, 2020, 7:32 AM

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does anyone know how does !eval work?

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how does it run code like that

twilit hull Jul 24, 2020, 7:42 AM

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so you type !e followed by three `

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then python

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then use enter to create a new line

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then type your codes then close the code block with three `

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like

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!e python print("1")

royal lakeBOT Jul 24, 2020, 7:43 AM

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You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

twilit hull Jul 24, 2020, 7:43 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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its important to create a new line after python

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@dapper jasper

dapper jasper Jul 24, 2020, 7:48 AM

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no wait like how does it work?

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does it create a new file and return the value from there?

gentle moss Jul 24, 2020, 7:49 AM

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the code is passed to a freshly created container and the output is passed back to the bot

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then the container is destroyed

sand goblet Jul 24, 2020, 8:00 AM

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Nah, there's no container dance

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There's just another container with nsjail and a daemon

gentle moss Jul 24, 2020, 8:00 AM

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oooh

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interesting

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i thought they were spun up on demand

dapper jasper Jul 24, 2020, 8:08 AM

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oh nice

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how about using exec()?

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is it a good idea?

gentle moss Jul 24, 2020, 8:10 AM

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no.

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if you can't escape using it then you've gotta use it

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but should be avoided

dapper jasper Jul 24, 2020, 8:12 AM

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hmm

gentle moss Jul 24, 2020, 8:12 AM

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makes ugly unpythonic code too

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that's hard to test

dapper jasper Jul 24, 2020, 8:12 AM

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is there a way to break the exec() if its in a loop?

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yea i was thinking that

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but rn i wanna replicate the eval function of the bot for my server

gentle moss Jul 24, 2020, 8:14 AM

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well the code is openly available on the github repo iirc

dapper jasper Jul 24, 2020, 8:14 AM

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ooh ill go check that out thanks

gentle moss Jul 24, 2020, 8:14 AM

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https://github.com/python-discord/snekbox

GitHub

python-discord/snekbox

Easy, safe evaluation of arbitrary Python code. Contribute to python-discord/snekbox development by creating an account on GitHub.

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 8:18 AM

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!source snekbox

royal lakeBOT Jul 24, 2020, 8:18 AM

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Bad argument: Please double-check your input arguments and try again.

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Command Help

!source [source_item]
Can also use: src

Display information and a GitHub link to the source code of a command, tag, or cog.

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 8:18 AM

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!source eval

royal lakeBOT Jul 24, 2020, 8:18 AM

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Command: eval

Run Python code and get the results.

Source Code

Go to GitHub

gentle moss Jul 24, 2020, 8:18 AM

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oh cool

dry basin Jul 24, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Is anyone in Buffalo?
Because
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

gentle moss Jul 24, 2020, 8:23 AM

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did someone just watch half as interesting?

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¬_¬

tacit flint Jul 24, 2020, 8:24 AM

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stop spamming your message in all ot-channels @dry basin

topaz aurora Jul 24, 2020, 8:24 AM

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No need to post that in every ot channel though lol

dry basin Jul 24, 2020, 8:36 AM

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._.

polar vigil Jul 24, 2020, 1:12 PM

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How can I get out of this caveman sleeping routine?

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I basically sleep 3 hours a night

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I have tried to not going to sleep until certain time (Basically not sleeping for 28 hours)

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I always sleep until 12:00 am and shit

round rose Jul 24, 2020, 1:17 PM

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I feel like getting exhausted during the day helps more than just going a long time without sleeping

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You could try moving more during the day, long walks, maybe bike rides or jogging, all that kind of stuff

polar vigil Jul 24, 2020, 1:19 PM

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I am tired asf, but when I go to sleep I just get spammed by pictures by my mind

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I don't know if you understand

gentle moss Jul 24, 2020, 1:20 PM

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try listening to some sort of breathing exercise or meditation thing before bed

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can help quiet your thoughts

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takes a while to get used to it, but i've found it helps get me to sleep

round rose Jul 24, 2020, 1:20 PM

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limiting screen time a couple hours before going to sleep should also help

gentle moss Jul 24, 2020, 1:20 PM

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yeah, read paper books or something

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the light from screens can throw off sleep

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but if it's racing thoughts and stuff, i definitely recommend looking up a breathing meditation or something

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE406OUgJ0s

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that's one i used to use when i started doing it

polar vigil Jul 24, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Good tip I have tried meditation like 3 times in my life. First time it worked and last 2 it didn't. I have no idea why

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Books are good, beacuse you don't need a screen to be able to use them

plucky ridge Jul 24, 2020, 1:23 PM

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I take melatonin before bed

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Helps me get to sleep and stay asleep

polar vigil Jul 24, 2020, 1:24 PM

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I have tried melatonin but it feels like not sleeping

plucky ridge Jul 24, 2020, 1:24 PM

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But anything over 5mg is worthless, since your body can only absorb the 5

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You have to get used to it

polar vigil Jul 24, 2020, 1:24 PM

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I feel like I don't want to get used to it

quick ledge Jul 24, 2020, 1:25 PM

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if you make a habit of sleeping to read, you might feel sleepy when you read a book at other situations too

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happened to me

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now i dont read lemon_fingerguns_shades

polar vigil Jul 24, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Reading in the morning used to be my thing. Not anymore, because I basically ruined my routine

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When I was young I freaked out if I didn't go to sleep certain time. Ohh I miss those times

fresh violet Jul 24, 2020, 2:08 PM

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can someone help me with this book cipher, i think i did it wrong

📎 unknown.png

coarse hearth Jul 24, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Can anyone help me write algorithm for this: How much times I have to put x to get equal or bigger with/than y?

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 2:22 PM

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abs(y/x)?

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not abs

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ceil()

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ceil(y/x)

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does that work @coarse hearth, or am I misunderstanding?

coarse hearth Jul 24, 2020, 2:24 PM

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I'm testing

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This is product calculation, so products in stock can be negative. Then I have input how much supplier give at once (so when this is 2, you can only order 2, 4, 6, 8 etc. products), minimum amount in stock and maximum amount in stock. I have to calculate how much I have to order.

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Minimum amount should be at least always in stock, but not more than maximum stock.

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I have been working with this program whole day. Everything else is ready, but this calculation side, this is complex.

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This is calculating products ordering sheet

polar vigil Jul 24, 2020, 3:21 PM

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cool cool

solid pollen Jul 24, 2020, 4:22 PM

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I regret everything

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Why is Google photos getting stuck on preparing the upload lemon_thinking

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I'm at this for like an hour or two

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EVERY freakin' answer in the answer hub gives you a different solution

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 4:24 PM

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have you tried turning it off and on again?

solid pollen Jul 24, 2020, 4:25 PM

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I tried so many things

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But yes, I did

empty aurora Jul 24, 2020, 5:25 PM

#

I hope this will catch someone's eye who will be interested in this hypothetical discussion.
Theoretically, would it be possible to define aliases for all built-in Python functions and implement it in a non-English language simply using those aliases? I understand all error messages and everything would still be in English, but just the commands

sullen thorn Jul 24, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I don't see why not... would be a lot of work though

empty aurora Jul 24, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Say if I want to create a simpler version, only for learning purposes of children whose native language is not English. What would it entail?

plucky ridge Jul 24, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Changing a lot of function names, keywords, and any instances within there of

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Honestly, it would only benefit them for a short time, as pretty much ALL languages require some English knowledge (or at least the ability to look up what the commands mean to comprehend them). Not saying it's impossible by any means, but it may be easier and more productive in the long run to just explain what the functions/keywords mean

empty aurora Jul 24, 2020, 5:42 PM

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that's true of course. it's probably just good for getting started and within a couple of months, English familiarity will be required

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I'm pretty sure there are translations of python to other languages

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for keywords and for builtins

empty aurora Jul 24, 2020, 5:43 PM

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It's just harder for kids whose language is not written using latin alphabet

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 5:43 PM

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maybe they're meant just for learning, I'm not sure

solid pollen Jul 24, 2020, 5:50 PM

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You'd have to fork the compiler in order to rename the tokens though

plucky ridge Jul 24, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Ah, hadn't thought of that

solid pollen Jul 24, 2020, 5:53 PM

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That's something that is on my to do list, I really want to see the madness of python scripts written in french haha

plucky ridge Jul 24, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Oh god

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 5:53 PM

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French is just English with an occasional le and a funny accent right?

quick ledge Jul 24, 2020, 5:54 PM

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wow, so learning english is kind of a requirement for programming

solid pollen Jul 24, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Plus ou moins ouais

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:>

quick ledge Jul 24, 2020, 5:54 PM

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oui

plucky ridge Jul 24, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Partially yeah

solid pollen Jul 24, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Baguette incoming in 3, 2...

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 5:55 PM

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🥖

plucky ridge Jul 24, 2020, 5:55 PM

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I think there are a couple programming languages here and there that are in other languages, but they're few and far between because the majority of languages out there are in english

quick ledge Jul 24, 2020, 5:55 PM

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viva le revolucion

solid pollen Jul 24, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Close :)

quick ledge Jul 24, 2020, 5:55 PM

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la

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la revolucion

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Liberte, fraternete, cup of tea

quick ledge Jul 24, 2020, 5:56 PM

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lol

solid pollen Jul 24, 2020, 5:56 PM

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La révolution yeah

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Tea, how dare you :>

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 5:56 PM

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to make it worse, I didn't even get them in the right order

solid pollen Jul 24, 2020, 5:56 PM

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The funniest thing is that python by default supports Unicode tokens, and so words with accents

quick ledge Jul 24, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Tea, how dare you :>
and i thought it's Americans who don't like tea

solid pollen Jul 24, 2020, 5:57 PM

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I think they are more country in the world that drink coffee than country that drink tea

quick ledge Jul 24, 2020, 5:57 PM

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no wonder

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imagine disliking something so much that you dump it in the ocean

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nvm, there are somethings I would like to dump int he ocean

plucky ridge Jul 24, 2020, 5:59 PM

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More ocean

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No, it didn't make sense to me either, don't worry

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 5:59 PM

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i was trying to decipher that one...

plucky ridge Jul 24, 2020, 6:00 PM

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My original thought was like "restoring the oceans"

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But my hands were like "nah, too much work"

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I'm hoping if I keep going over the Reason docs something will click in me like it did with Python where I finally start doing stuff with it

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 6:02 PM

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hmm that seems like a sensible strategy

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you could say

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reasonable

plucky ridge Jul 24, 2020, 6:02 PM

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I have no retort, that was too perfect

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 6:02 PM

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In fairness, I think actually doing is probably the most important thing - it was for me at least. Using enumerate and stuff seemed scary till I actually just did it

plucky ridge Jul 24, 2020, 6:03 PM

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True. Just keep bumping against how imposing it is to deal with DOM stuff

undone berry Jul 24, 2020, 6:03 PM

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I think I lack the confidence to believe that I've learned something myself til I see it actually working

plucky ridge Jul 24, 2020, 6:03 PM

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I'm right there with you

quick ledge Jul 24, 2020, 6:12 PM

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My original thought was like "restoring the oceans"
I was thinking of bodi-

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-es

plucky ridge Jul 24, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Yeah I figured

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"sleepin' with da fishes"

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Huh, now that's interesting.... https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0622/

Python.org

PEP 622 -- Structural Pattern Matching

The official home of the Python Programming Language

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Guido shot down one of the previous switch case PEPs but is an author on this one for pattern matching

lofty dirge Jul 24, 2020, 7:43 PM

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is that to determine type?

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Does anyone know how to make Android background apps run without them getting knocked out by Android? I have a Termux app which I use for running my Discord bot(s) and I was wondering how I could run Termux in the background without Android being Android, and most importantly... Can it be done?

empty jolt Jul 25, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Not sure if this fits in off-topic... But I'll allow it because of how intrigued I am by this idea

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Don't think it would fit in #tools-and-devops, #discord-bots or #python-discussion.

empty aurora Jul 25, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Do you use the option to not optimize battery usage for the said app?

sand goblet Jul 25, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Yeah you can't just write your app so Android doesn't do that

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It's down to the user

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https://dontkillmyapp.com

Don’t kill my app!

Hey Android vendors, don’t kill my app!

empty aurora Jul 25, 2020, 8:43 AM

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Oh, I thought Ralph was asking as the user of the app 😅

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In that case, I guess persistent notification is what it needs

sand goblet Jul 25, 2020, 9:01 AM

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Oh right, yeah, termux is probably not their app haha

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Site is still helpful though

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Although an Android phone isn't really a great server

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Maybe get a raspberry pi or something

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 9:49 AM

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Can anyone type with chopsticks?

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XD

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I imagine it's hard

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But I also imagine someone can

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Difficulty didn't stop people mastering something

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My pc aint working its only showing lock screen..
Help

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I cant exit lock screen

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Yeah, erm I'm currently in a situation where I really don't have direct access to a computer, so I do some bot development on a tablet that I use every day so I want to keep Termux running in the background.

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@empty aurora Yeah I've disabled that but it still kills the process.

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Also there's a button Acquire Wakelock on the Termux's notification bar, according to the site you sent, it should stop Android from killing my Termux process, but it doesn't.

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@sand goblet

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I don't understand why mobile phones can't be more controllable without root permissions.

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I just want to run an app all the time goddammit.

empty aurora Jul 25, 2020, 12:39 PM

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I understand your concern with how locked down phones are

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I guess it's a compromise to make sure the platform is secure. After all, not even 1% of the users are actually interested in doing what root permission allows you to do and it would just make the phones less secure for those people

soft violet Jul 25, 2020, 12:48 PM

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I know someone who doesn't even password protect her phone.

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No passkey, nothing.

round rose Jul 25, 2020, 1:10 PM

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I mean, that's not that wild tbh

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I have a passcode, but the only time my phone isn't in my hands/pockets/etc and someone else can access it is when it's charging at home

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So it's kind of pointless, really

empty aurora Jul 25, 2020, 1:36 PM

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It's useful because you could lose your phone or it might get stolen anytime.
And these days you don't even need a passcode with all the fingerprint and retina scanners

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Need to enter a passcode, I mean

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 1:55 PM

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@empty aurora Huh? You still need to enter your password/pin/pattern upon startup for any modern smartphone

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Also, retina scanners on smartphones? 🤨

gentle moss Jul 25, 2020, 1:56 PM

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hi scott

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 1:56 PM

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@gentle moss 👋

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Google removed Face Unlock on recent iterations of Android, so even that's not a thing.

gentle moss Jul 25, 2020, 1:57 PM

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biometrics as an unlock mechanism unsettles me

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as a 2fa thing i don't mind it so much

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 1:58 PM

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I think it's great for convenience

gentle moss Jul 25, 2020, 1:58 PM

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yeah, i set it up last week on this surface book

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because i was fed up of typing my damn password

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sigh

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i have become a lazy user

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Shouldn't need to put your password in over and over again, when you have biometrics. But to think of it as anything other than convenience is a mistake.

gentle moss Jul 25, 2020, 1:59 PM

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exactly. plus this laptop doesn't leave the house

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 1:59 PM

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But then again, you can always shut your device down or restart it if you're in a position that you want to force the password to be put in.

gentle moss Jul 25, 2020, 1:59 PM

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my work laptop is still a 2fa login

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 1:59 PM

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I've had Google Authenticator + Password on this system for a while

gentle moss Jul 25, 2020, 1:59 PM

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yeah, fan of that

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Well, rather, Password + Google Auth, but yeah

gentle moss Jul 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

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except both my phone and work laptop are dying now

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Ouch.

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Backups!

empty aurora Jul 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

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@empty aurora Huh? You still need to enter your password/pin/pattern upon startup for any modern smartphone
@rough sapphire Startup, yes. But not to unlock. I restart my phone like once a week, so that doesn't really bother me

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 2:01 PM

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@empty aurora I wasn't sure your position, so just wanted to clarify 😄

empty aurora Jul 25, 2020, 2:01 PM

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I think Samsung or some company released a phone with retina scanner, didn't they?

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Iris scanner, I got the word wrong

gentle moss Jul 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

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yeah, i mean the data is sound on my laptop

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

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I did not, but I don't play with Samsung devices.
They tend to not be the level of flexibility I need for my devices.
I'll be AFK for about 30-45 minutes.
@gentle moss Did you see the Discord exploit that forced a crash?

empty aurora Jul 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Not good with biology 🤣

gentle moss Jul 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

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hang on, let me send you a video

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¬_¬

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 2:27 PM

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My mom doesn't use a password for her phone so it's quite vulnerable since I can make credit card purchases and whatnot.

rough sapphire Jul 25, 2020, 2:58 PM

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@rough sapphire Well, I imagine she doesn't want you to do that.

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Also, probably isn't in her threat model that anyone would do that outside of the house

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She should think about what she stores on her phone without protection, I wouldn't use her credit card credentials without her permission, yeah but it's an example.

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Of what I and someone else could do.

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I'm not sure it's a good idea to tell someone else what they should/shouldn't do with their devices. You can give your opinion or general take on something, but it's up to them to do that thing.

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Reasoning with someone and having a discussion is always a nice idea. But trying to force someone into your line of thinking is always bad.

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It's perfectly fine to have two people disagree with something

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I mean, seems like she doesn't value her data and personal information, or just doesn't know how to secure it properly, all her email's and whatnot are on that device, kinda scary. ☠️

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Oh sure, I can see your reasoning.

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But you have to be careful how you approach those situations

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Offering a solution is a good way to start that conversation too

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"Hey, have you looked into x, y, or z to fix {problem}?"

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Wha-

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?

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Also I'll take you in mind, IDK like the phone doesn't store anything about me but I'm still concerned about her data cause if that phone is stolen, yeah all of her account's are compromised.

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Oh sure, I get that. I've got KeePass on my mobile.

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So I understand you

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Backups are always a good idea

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Since she's your mother, offering to do that for her is always a good idea too

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That way she doesn't need to think of it