#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 422

gentle moss Jul 13, 2020, 1:23 PM

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you might be better off looking up an nginx configuration tutorial

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since it's all config files it doesn't matter if it's for linux

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 1:24 PM

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Fair point

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I think it's just their Beginner Guide that messed with me the most. It's just one massive page

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Also, didn't realize it's pronounced "engine-ex"

gentle moss Jul 13, 2020, 1:25 PM

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:D

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that one took me a month or so after i started using it

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Everyone says n jinx

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Then everyone is a fool. A FOOL I SAY!

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Once I get this whole kerfuffle sorted out this will ACTUALLY be the completion of the project

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Have to wait and make sure I can test it properly on a machine

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I'm so tired, I feel like someone drugged me

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.... and I'm completely out of green tea

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Crap

gentle moss Jul 13, 2020, 1:37 PM

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:O

solid siren Jul 13, 2020, 5:06 PM

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!offtopic

royal lakeBOT Jul 13, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Off-topic channels

There are three off-topic channels:
• #ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval
• #ot1-perplexing-regexing
• #ot2-never-nester’s-nightmare

Their names change randomly every 24 hours, but you can always find them under the OFF-TOPIC/GENERAL category in the channel list.

honest star Jul 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Urgh Creative Cloud is so frustrating

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Is it neither creative nor cloudy?

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Urgh Creative Cloud is so frustrating
@honest star
What are you using or for?

honest star Jul 13, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Currently importing photos into lightroom for light edits. Usually graphic design.

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The cloud aspect is super frustrating because the updates are super flak

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y

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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For my very nonprofessional graphic design stuff, I switched to affinity designer. Id recommend checking it out. It's a buy once product

honest star Jul 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Non-profit I volunteer for pays for the CC license, which is useful. It lets the full Marketing & Communications team use the same product.
But I'll check it out! I'm leaving the non-profit and will be looking to leave the CC ecosystem. How does it compare to AI and INDD?

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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I found it easier to use than AI. But im very much an amateur, so it might be missing features. For the simple vector and design stuff that I do, I really like it though.

honest star Jul 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Have you used Affinity Publisher or Affinity Photo?

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 6:22 PM

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I haven't, but @sand goblet has

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I'm pretty sure he liked publisher a lot

sand goblet Jul 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I do like publisher

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But I haven't used Adobe CC

honest star Jul 13, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Hmmm and the price isn't bad.

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oh come onnnnn, now it's not displaying .arw files?? When it has previously??

rancid forge Jul 13, 2020, 8:39 PM

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cheese

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Okay, Office I call bullshit

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Why do you have a "TriState" boolean that only supports True and False

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And not only that, but True is -1

sand goblet Jul 13, 2020, 8:44 PM

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true, false and null maybe

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:44 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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Not even that

sand goblet Jul 13, 2020, 8:44 PM

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weird

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Mixed, Toggle and CTrue, wut

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Just makes no friggin sense

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Well, it kinda does

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:45 PM

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I mean I understand why it's there, but at this point

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When over half of it isn't supported, why still have it

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:45 PM

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But it is weirdly designed

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They are values that exists

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Unless they're preparing ahead for Quantum?

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Which is dumb

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:46 PM

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So I guess they have to tell you that it is unsupported

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:46 PM

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But why have it

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Well I mean, they are a lot of functions in Excel

stark prawn Jul 13, 2020, 8:46 PM

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I don't think that is how quantum computing works.

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Oh no no

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This isn't Excel

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:46 PM

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I'm pretty sure some can have more than 4 output

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:46 PM

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This is part of the Office.Core

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This is allll of them

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Ooh

stark prawn Jul 13, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Excell formula's are subject to localization 😄

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:47 PM

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I guess some features need them then?

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Maybe.

stark prawn Jul 13, 2020, 8:47 PM

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So sum(A1:A10) wouldn't do anything if your pc is set to dutch 🙃

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Oh really haha

sand goblet Jul 13, 2020, 8:48 PM

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I'd forgotten that

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but yep

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Which I get

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Other places have standards

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But jesus

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:48 PM

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MS and standards are a no no

sand goblet Jul 13, 2020, 8:48 PM

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hey man, that's like your python program not running in france because print is different

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Eh.... sort of

stark prawn Jul 13, 2020, 8:49 PM

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als variable is Waar:
  afdrukken("Ik hou van python!")```

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:49 PM

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I still haven't forked CPython and translated the tokens haha

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Waar! HUH! Good god! What is it good for! Absolutely nothing!

stark prawn Jul 13, 2020, 8:50 PM

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MS does manage the LSP standard.

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Literally Stupid Programming?

sand goblet Jul 13, 2020, 8:50 PM

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language server protocol

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Honestly most of my hate is directly at Office

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:50 PM

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si sens_de_la_vie égale 42:
    écrire("Yup !")```Just imagine haha

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Like Microsoft has been putting in seriously great work in other spots

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:51 PM

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MS and Apple are pretty close actually

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:51 PM

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In terms of...

sand goblet Jul 13, 2020, 8:51 PM

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my github issues state otherwise

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:51 PM

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They all create their own standards instead of using existing ones

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Lol, not this issue again

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Adobe is in that club as well

sand goblet Jul 13, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I mean, there weren't standards before

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Mr. Hemlock, is this Office API still?

sand goblet Jul 13, 2020, 8:52 PM

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in this case

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:52 PM

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@lofty dirge The dotnet one yeah

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Office API is mess mainly because they have stopped putting a bunch of effort into it

stark prawn Jul 13, 2020, 8:52 PM

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importeer verzamelingen

woordenboek = verzamelingen.GeordendeVerzameling
woordenbook.bijwerken({"a": 1, "b": 2})```

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:52 PM

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their replacement is Microsoft Graph directly editing files in Sharepoint/OneDrive

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Oh god haha

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:52 PM

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That doesn't explain why the Office.js was a mess. They're pushing friggin everyone to it

stark prawn Jul 13, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Office api is a mess because they want to maintain like 25 years of backwards compatibility while still adding new features.

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 8:53 PM

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is office.js a mess if you're using o365?

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:53 PM

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you wouldn't need Office.JS

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:53 PM

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It's still a pain in the ass to get it working

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:53 PM

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if file is in Sharepoint online/OneDrive, you could edit file via REST API using Microsoft Graph

solid pollen Jul 13, 2020, 8:53 PM

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The famously known ZBrush issue, trying to keep compatibility with everyone's workflow

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:53 PM

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@lofty dirge That's still dependent on you subscribing and using all of that

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:53 PM

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I know that doesn't help you Hemlock

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Rather than buying individual products

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No it is interesting, though

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Didn't know about it

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:54 PM

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puts on his Microsoft hat

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We dislike you type of people doing this: Rather than buying individual products

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takes off hat

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Cloud or bust

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I'm shocked they sold Office 2019 outside Enterprise agreements

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Semi related question. Is it normal for companies to mix and match cloud platforms?

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or is going all in on one of AWS/Azure/GCP more standard?

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Exchange 2019 is locked behind Software Assurance/Enterprise agreements

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:55 PM

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I'm not in favor of having to completely toss our current infrastructure just for the sake of some minor convenient things

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Hemlock, I'm not advocating for you to do so

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:55 PM

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No I know

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But I hate that that's the push

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:55 PM

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just giving Microsoft business point of view

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they make SOOOOO much money from cloud

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Charlie, It depends

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:56 PM

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I don't doubt it, but the idea of snubbing the other users sucks

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:56 PM

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my division of my company is in Azure

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 8:56 PM

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That push makes sense from the company's perspective in the medium term though. The support is going to be much better

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:56 PM

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I know it's not a good business point of view, but it sucks

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:56 PM

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my company has a whole is pushing GCP but we have other divisions in AWS

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Pros of single cloud: You can really use all their features for rapid development

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Cons: You are really really stuck

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:56 PM

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And that's something I'm not on board with

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One thing goes down, all of it goes down

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 8:57 PM

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iunno

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there's so many single points of failure already

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that it doesn't really matter all that much

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Most companies don't care since Office365 is cheaper then what they were doing

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 8:57 PM

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tonnes of work just comes to a complete halt if say email goes down

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or the shared drive goes down

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that it's not that much of an issue

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Sure, but it's lots but not all

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 8:58 PM

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enough that the added potential cost is pretty meaningless

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Cloud stuff gives me the heebyjeebies

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I don't like losing additional control, and I know that's just a me thing

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Sure, but it's too cheap to ignore

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like running Exchange in cloud is cheaper then running it on premise for all but largest companies

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 8:59 PM

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I think I quite like it. The advantages seem to outweigh the disadvantages from a enterprise POV (even excluding cost)

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:59 PM

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digs out his spreadsheet from consultant days

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 8:59 PM

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I dislike it from an individual's perspective though

plucky ridge Jul 13, 2020, 8:59 PM

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I'm heading home for the day. Been exhausting for mah brain

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 8:59 PM

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https://imgur.com/L4uHNDn

Imgur

undone berry Jul 13, 2020, 9:00 PM

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goodnight Hemlock

lofty dirge Jul 13, 2020, 9:00 PM

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night

river horizon Jul 13, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Why's this not safe for me eh

red willow Jul 13, 2020, 9:24 PM

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thinking of funny retort

jagged fog Jul 13, 2020, 11:55 PM

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wait is linux watchdog and python watchdog 2 completely different things? stap

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hm ye, it uses inotify. Damn

celest tide Jul 14, 2020, 1:07 AM

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anyone use mac os? I've recently updated something without realising and it changed the python version to 3.8, which broke a load of shit, which is super annoying

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I've not used macOS for that long, is this a regular thing?

dim talon Jul 14, 2020, 2:26 AM

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best not to mess with the python it ships with

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but you can use pyenv to maintain several versions on your machine seamlessly

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works like nvm if you know anything about nodejs ecosystem

agile heart Jul 14, 2020, 7:01 AM

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I know it's Asparagus, but I cannot guess what the dipping to go with it is from the pic

📎 unknown.png

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Guesses anyone?

rough sapphire Jul 14, 2020, 7:27 AM

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Looks like thick lemonade

graceful basin Jul 14, 2020, 7:29 AM

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Looks pretty buttery, but am not too sure

stiff marsh Jul 14, 2020, 7:49 AM

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hi

agile heart Jul 14, 2020, 8:29 AM

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Yeah quite buttery

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but I can't figure out for the life of me

undone berry Jul 14, 2020, 9:20 AM

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I have a git repo with just some notes in it. The git aspect of things seems to have died, getting corrupt object something or other as the error. I have the files, so it's not much of an issue - but is there a simple way to get my history back?

sand goblet Jul 14, 2020, 9:22 AM

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https://git.seveas.net/repairing-and-recovering-broken-git-repositories.html

Git Cookbook

Repairing and recovering broken git repositories

Git tries very hard not to forget anything you have ever committed, but that only works as long as your .git directory is intact. What do you do if it gets corrupted? Many parts of it can be recovered and in this article we find out how to do this.

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Object corruption is basically the worst problem you can have

undone berry Jul 14, 2020, 9:23 AM

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that's roughly what I gathered from Google. I'll just copy the files out and ditch the gitness

sand goblet Jul 14, 2020, 9:23 AM

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There is some stuff to try in this

remote socket Jul 14, 2020, 11:49 AM

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@narrow pecan could you send me the video on EOLA? I've forgotten what it contains.

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Well, it's the series on Essence of Linear Algebra

remote socket Jul 14, 2020, 11:50 AM

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ah

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Just so good

remote socket Jul 14, 2020, 11:50 AM

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the essence of calculus series is really good

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Makes it all seem so intuitive

remote socket Jul 14, 2020, 11:50 AM

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you probably went through it as well

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Yes, I really agree

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Yeah

remote socket Jul 14, 2020, 11:50 AM

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yeah

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good stuff

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 11:51 AM

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And just so good to know when you start learning the theories in school

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And it's more about the formulas than intuition

remote socket Jul 14, 2020, 11:51 AM

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oh yeah it was perfect timing for me

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started learning calculus and then I immediatly started watching those videos

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I wish he made more of them

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 11:51 AM

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Same! So helpful to have

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Yeah. When I looked through the Manim projects, it looks like a second "season" of linear algebra may be coming

remote socket Jul 14, 2020, 11:52 AM

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time to put his series on netflix lol

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:03 PM

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Yeah hahah, that'd be awesome

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:09 PM

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I don't know how how I lived without walrus-chan:

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def sliced_by_string(s, o):
    co = s.find(':')
    return o[int(before) if (before := s[:co]) else 0 : int(after) if (after := s[co+1:]) else len(o)]

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:12 PM

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What's walrus-chan @bleak rain ?

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:12 PM

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:= the walrus operator

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It allows you to do some pretty nasty stuff

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Haven't heard about it before?

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Don't think so

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Well, basically, it mushes together assignment and comparisons. Example:

if (ans := input()) == 'foo':
  print('bar')
else:
  print(ans)

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Oh btw, where are you from?

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:16 PM

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That looks quite convenient. Is that a new feature?

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Sweden

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:16 PM

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ayyy jag tänkte väl det lul

graceful basin Jul 14, 2020, 12:16 PM

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New in 3.8

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Hahahha härligt

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:16 PM

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(can we speak in other languages in offtopic?)

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Don't think so

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:16 PM

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thinkmon

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Prefer English online though ahahh

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:17 PM

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yeah same, I'm better at english from computer nolife

graceful basin Jul 14, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Generally, English only as moderating not English is not possible.

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Perfect:)

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:17 PM

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anyway I'm happy to meet a swede so I can offload my excitement

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:17 PM

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HAhha yeah, that doesn't happen too often

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:18 PM

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LUND datateknik boysssssss

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I've already started looking for a place to live

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So goddamn hard though

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Why? For uni?

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:18 PM

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ye

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I want to move out asap

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Out of Sweden?

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Nah, just to (korridors)rum so I'm closer to LTH

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How old are you yourself btw?

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Cool; do you currently live in Lund?

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:19 PM

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nah, ystad

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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I'm 17

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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somewhat close

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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No clue where Ystad is tbh

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Well, 1hr with train

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Basically I just wanted to vent about the queue times... like holy shit

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Queue times?

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:22 PM

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varenda jävla sketen 19kvm kostar 4 lax i mån och har cirka 100 pers i kön

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I'm so angry I wrote in swedish! Not often you see this

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Anyway, it will be at least like 2 months before I will be able to find something

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:23 PM

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AHhah true. It takes quite some time to get a place to live--especially when it's a student city

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:23 PM

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I'm not even picky, I can live in a lice-infested bathroom, I literally don't care anymore

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:23 PM

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Welp

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:23 PM

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It's pure torture

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So what program are you going?

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Natur

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Helllll yeah

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:25 PM

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So, a lot of science stuff hahah

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:25 PM

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NATNAT?

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:25 PM

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You?

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Yep

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:25 PM

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ayyyy same

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Awesome

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What year?

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Or, what grade will you be attending this fall?

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Well, I just graduated so yeah

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Really? How did it feel, considering COVID-19?

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Well considering that there would be no studentflak, no utspring (well, a really shitty one), a really boring studentmåltid. All in all, I decided to not go

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Everyone bombarded me with questions irl lol

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Yeah, I can get that tbh

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:29 PM

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It's crazy how the hat can cost everything between 500 (what I bought it at) to like 1500

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Yeah

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It's a big part of it, I suppose

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"The symbol of graduating", I'd say

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:31 PM

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yeah, agreed

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I'm still thankful that I got it

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Yeah

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:32 PM

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I gotta stop myself before I'll rant some more lol

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lmk if you ever want advice in general about whatever (gymnasiearbete coming up soon?) and we can DM so I can talk in the kötbulle language

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So much wisdom to share, so little time

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:34 PM

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I think I should be fine, but thanks for the offer:)

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:34 PM

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np

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now, back to making atrocities with the walrus operator lol

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:34 PM

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I'm gonna get moving now, but it was nice chatting with you

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atrocities?

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 12:35 PM

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hmm, ohyggligheter? Something like that

narrow pecan Jul 14, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Hmmm okay hahha

quick ledge Jul 14, 2020, 2:33 PM

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hey technicium

surreal otter Jul 14, 2020, 2:33 PM

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@spark geyser

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sorry, hard to have 2 convos in 1 channel

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thanks @quick ledge

quick ledge Jul 14, 2020, 2:33 PM

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what about dust collection?

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np gnabergasher

prisma geyser Jul 14, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Hey I have a silly off topic question

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What is memory slots in laptops?

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I searched they said it's used to upgrade RAM

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My laptop has no memory slot but my friends laptop has 2 slots

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 3:30 PM

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What kind of laptop do you have?

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It should have slots. It may not have any not currently unoccupied, but it'll have some place where the ram is plugged in

prisma geyser Jul 14, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Although in both laptops RAM can be upgraded to max 16 GB only

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📎 image0.png

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See this @plucky ridge

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 3:32 PM

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That simply means its not listed

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Not that it doesn't have them

prisma geyser Jul 14, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Oh! So every laptop has atleast one memory slot?

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Odds are good that it also has 2 slots

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It should, yeah

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RAM/memory is needed to run a computer

prisma geyser Jul 14, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Okay

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 3:33 PM

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And it's very rarely soldered into the machine

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Oh hold on

prisma geyser Jul 14, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Ok

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Tell me

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 3:33 PM

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https://www.crucial.com/ Run the "Scan computer" option from their site

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Should tell you what you have available and what not

prisma geyser Jul 14, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Oh cool!

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I will. Thanks ✨

quick ledge Jul 14, 2020, 3:50 PM

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ig the 16gb refers to your motherboard limitation

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have you opened up your laptop?

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the ram in laptops dont look like the ones you see in custom PCs

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they are smaller

topaz aurora Jul 14, 2020, 3:55 PM

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From what I've read, I could bump up my laptop's RAM to 8GBs because of a free slot

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Just would have to find the appropriate stick

quick ledge Jul 14, 2020, 3:57 PM

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wait only 8gB?

topaz aurora Jul 14, 2020, 3:58 PM

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The limit's probably higher

quick ledge Jul 14, 2020, 3:58 PM

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might be 32

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in total

topaz aurora Jul 14, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Yeah though that'd be a bit hard to find

quick ledge Jul 14, 2020, 3:59 PM

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yeahh

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also doesnt the rams have to be from the same brand and stuff

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for maximum potential

topaz aurora Jul 14, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Nope, 8GB max

quick ledge Jul 14, 2020, 3:59 PM

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and same speed

wheat lynx Jul 14, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Wait so it's 4gb at the moment?

topaz aurora Jul 14, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Ye

quick ledge Jul 14, 2020, 4:00 PM

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no i meant: both the ram sticks need to be identical for maximum performance

topaz aurora Jul 14, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I honestly want to save up for a proper PC

quick ledge Jul 14, 2020, 4:01 PM

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that would be the dream yes

topaz aurora Jul 14, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I want compiling to go nyoom

wheat lynx Jul 14, 2020, 4:02 PM

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It's unlikely that 32gb of RAM would really be worth it on a laptop that came with 4gb anyway, you'd end up bottlenecking with something else first with most tasks

quick ledge Jul 14, 2020, 4:02 PM

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hmmm true

wheat lynx Jul 14, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Saving up for a better PC is probably your best bet if possible

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 4:08 PM

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32GB is a ton

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few people need that

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even standard development probably doesn't require that

rough sapphire Jul 14, 2020, 4:23 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/267624335836053506/512380396235653141

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where does it lead to?

quick ledge Jul 14, 2020, 4:41 PM

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to mr.hemlock's message

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Its a pic of list of projects ranked at different difficulties

bleak rain Jul 14, 2020, 5:02 PM

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fuck

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I've realized that my current project is one of those projects that can grow indefinitely and can turn out to be gigantic

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that scope growth exponential

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 6:31 PM

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I'm so depressed. There are so few interesting dev jobs aroudn here 😦

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Almost everyone is looking for web dev JavaScript stuff or whatever

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That sounds so awful, IMO :/

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But I'm too tired of school to go back

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What to do? 😦

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Way too many programming jobs are focused on making money instead of doing interesting things :/

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 6:34 PM

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That's kind of the game in general

prisma geyser Jul 14, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Do you think 16GB is enough for Android Development?

soft violet Jul 14, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Depending on what you're planning to do, but yes. You can get by with far less.

prisma geyser Jul 14, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Okay!

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Let's go with 16 then ✌️

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 7:00 PM

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interesting doesn't pay the bills

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:01 PM

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I'm thinking of changing fields but know what else I'd do

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But I can't do most of these jobs. I have no idea what to do :/

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Well I'd advise sticking with the field you're in for now until you can gain the knowledge or credentials to hop

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Nothing worse than being miserable and unable to feed yourself

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:05 PM

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Isn't there? I've rarely been more miserable in my life than when I had to hunt down memory issues in C and C++

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I can't work with JavaScript either

That stuff makes me miserable. I can't imagine being forced to do it on a daily basis

velvet rapids Jul 14, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I'm making a search thing (PostgreSQL). I want to search my database for any entries where a specific column's value is similar to a provided string. I tried using LIKE, but it doesn't work very well... it's even case sensitive. Any ideas how I can do this with PostgreSQL?

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:06 PM

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JavaScript really is no where near as bad as it was even 3 years ago

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@velvet rapids The folks over in #databases might be able to help you out

velvet rapids Jul 14, 2020, 7:06 PM

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ah, thanks 😄

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Happy to help

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:08 PM

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I am fundamentally opposed to JS as a language though. I honestly don't think I can use it and be happy with life

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Why's that?

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Because too much of it requires knowing JavaScript

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I don't care about computers

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Having to think about them is boring and often frustrating

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Wait, and you're wanting to stay in coding?

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I'm confused

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:10 PM

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So having to spend time thinking about JavaScript instead of logic would be a nightmare

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Yeah, I don't care about computers. At all. Zero interest

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:11 PM

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JavaScript is logic.

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Yes, there are pitfalls in the language, but that's the same with any other

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It's another tool in the belt

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:12 PM

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JS has too many JS specific things for me. It makes me unhappy not knowing if what I'm doing is legal, and JS is all around doing things I thing should be illegal

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Do you have an example?

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:12 PM

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"1" + "1" as opposed to "1" + 1

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:12 PM

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This is more just curiosity at this point for me

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Right, easily avoidable

undone berry Jul 14, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Always the irrelevant typing stuff

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People love to hate despite the fact they've never touched it

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:13 PM

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And something that can be mitigated or completely eliminated by using a superset like TypeScript or a completely different one like Reason, or even just a type checker of which there are plenty of good ones

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:13 PM

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It's not irrelevant. I like knowing things about my code. I like having security and protection

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JS doesn't offer those things

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:13 PM

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It does, though

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And just like anything else, you just have to know how to use it

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Look, I HATED JS for a long time

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Hated hated hated

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But the more I explore it using things like TypeScript and Reason or others, the more I can appreciate it

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Because in the end, you can see the end result of what the compiled JS is

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:15 PM

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If everyone used TS, maybe I'd consider it a bit more... but I am not a computer person. I like math. The only I did CS as opposed was because I wanted a safer route

Having to think about mundane things like that are seriously soul crushing to me. I'm not joking or exaggerating

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I almost dropped out of school several times because I couldn't stand dealing with pointer issues

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I just don't care

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If it's not a logic issue, I don't care. The computer should be able to take care of it

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It was a mistake getting into CS instead, damn :/

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:16 PM

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I mean I can see where you're coming from, but it's all very interconnected.

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Like how can you expect to import or retrieve the data you need to work with if you don't interact with the computer itself.

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And using a language like Python, most of that IS abstracted away

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If maths is your true passion, then it might be worth going back to school with that focus in mind

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:18 PM

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That's why I'm okay using Python though. For the most part, what you see in Python is what you get

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Statistics, teacher, etc.

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:18 PM

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There are few tricks or things you need to think about or take care for

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It's mostly straight forward

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But JS simply isn't that

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Sure, but there are plenty of traps as well

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Yeah, and that's why I still complain about Python a lot

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:19 PM

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You set a default parameter with a mutable type? Hooooo boy

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Sure but all of those ARE logical issues

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Just not on the same specific part you're thinking of

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It expects it to be one way, if given it another way, of course it's going to act contrary to what you'd expect or want

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But that's all part of it.

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If you can, it may be worth talking to a career counselor

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Seeing if there's anything that can better fit your skills or wants

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But there isn't a perfect language out there that's going to abstract everything away 100%. It's just not possible

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:22 PM

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I might simply not have a ny other choice but to apply for grad school or something and try to get some sort of research job. This job hunt thing has been brutal...

If only people paid you to solve puzzles all day pithink

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:41 PM

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I mean that is what coding is. But it just involves puzzle pieces you're not a fan of

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Or IT

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Could become a detective

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Ha, like I said... I don't care about computers. IT sounds even worse than any of these jobs, no offense

The other problem though is people could at least be doing novel things

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Such as

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:51 PM

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But instead every job sounds about the same. "Build a website to interact with our customers", or "Keep track of these documents"

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Well yes. That's life. People in life need everyday things

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If you want something novel you have to make it yourself or continue to improve yourself so you get picked for those kinds of things

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And keep in mind, those novel things are still going to involve all the things you hate

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Probably more so

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Finding new ways to solve problems

People constantly talk about business logic and what not... nobody seems to make business logic the code itself

So why not make a new language to solve this? Make the business logic the only way that things can be done

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Like with the Game of Life. The laws are in a way the program itself

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:57 PM

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But they aren't. They're specifications, not the means to the end

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They're direction, not instruction

tight meadow Jul 14, 2020, 7:57 PM

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This might be a bad suggestion, but I think that if you want to make something that is fun for you, then make your own business. It may be risky and it might not work out, but if you only care about making something "interesting," you probably won't care

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just my thought, i'm no business owner

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:57 PM

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What's the difference between a direction and an instruction?

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Directions are broad, loose concepts. Instructions are point to point, do this then this then this

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 7:57 PM

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TheKing, TS is heavily used, Microsoft, Google and others use it, I think Discord does as well

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Sorry, I meant more used around here

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 7:58 PM

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we use it exclusively

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:58 PM

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I'm not looking for jobs away from here unless it's a remote job

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:58 PM

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That's also going to hurt chances.

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Yeah :/

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:58 PM

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(granted I'm not willing to move either right now, so I feel you there)

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Masked Man Because I'm not good about making money

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 7:59 PM

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What even qualifies as business logic?

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 7:59 PM

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It's one of the last thing that I think about... I don't even know what people might want 😮

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Dunno

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The term just seems to be thrown out a lot

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:00 PM

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I mean you know what they want

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They're hiring for it

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It's just not something you want them to want

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I guess :/

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:01 PM

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You have to figure, all the current novel ideas are focused heavily in machine learning and AI tech. And most of that won't end up being fully useful or practical for the clients

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Might be more so when 5G becomes standard, but for now, a LOT of it requires too much processing power

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People want practical solutions, practical applications

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:02 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_logic
This sounds exactly like it should be a trivial problem. If we can make crazy state machines for things like parsers we should be able to do this stuff no problem

Business logic

In computer software, business logic or domain logic is the part of the program that encodes the real-world business rules that determine how data can be created, stored, and changed. It is contrasted with the remainder of the software that might be concerned with lower-level...

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Does what it says on the tin

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I mean... we have that.

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Websites do that all the time, office suites like, well, Office do that.

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Business logic isn't a new concept

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It's literally UI

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The modern conveniences we add to things to make the user less aware that they're using it rather than just doing the thing

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But under that it still requires all the gears and cogs it always has

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Then why are people always talking about it? Let's just come up with as general a solution for this as we can and move on to something new

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Who are the people talking about it

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:04 PM

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ahh, the life ending statement of every programmer "This process is simple, we should be able to code it easily"

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then all one off requirements show up

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Recruiters, job application stuff, etc. I see the terms pop up all the time

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:05 PM

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People who don't know code you mean?

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Who don't understand the process?

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They just know the result they want

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Why do you need to code? Make a state machine http://www.micromouseonline.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/state-machine-example-1024x385.png

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:06 PM

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For every single possible state?

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So this is assuming that business practices never change?

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No new needs are ever had?

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We code the way we do because it IS expandable

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Because we can easily build on the concepts we create to make it apply to things that might be needed in the future

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Any one else can correct me if I'm wrong, it's just how I view it

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:08 PM

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You can add new things by dragging and dropping chnges. Just throw them in there. Make the graph your solution to the problem

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:08 PM

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And if you have a new need for something those states don't cover?

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Do you remake the system, add to it, or start using the existing pieces to create things it wasn't intended for?

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:09 PM

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That's not business logic anymore, if you need to transform data in one way the you need an actual programmer

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But how many things do businesses actually need to do? Probably not manu

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Um

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What?

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Get data, process it, store it, and pass it around

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What else is necessary?

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:09 PM

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I like how you boiled down those to 4 things as if those 4 things aren't comprised of thousands

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"What's it take to get to the moon? Oh we just gotta make a rocket ship and then we're there"

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:10 PM

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That's part of the problem. People make things too complicated

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Because things ARE complicated

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Some things are, a lot of things aren't. You can ignore most details... that's one of the most important parts of computer science

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:11 PM

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have you tried fixing people?

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they are the worst

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:12 PM

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You can ignore most details
Yes, after you determine which ones are safe to ignore.

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:12 PM

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until that detail is critical to some executive somewhere

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Or to the code safety at large

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But I mean it wasn't one of the 4 big steps so....

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:13 PM

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I'm talking about business logic

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Coding is the solely the act of breaking larger things down into smaller, working pieces

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Not coding

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Yes, and even business logic requires smaller bits to make the larger bits work

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You cannot have one without the other

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:13 PM

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so I dealt with purchasing department at mid sized company, approval process alone was a nightmare

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hardware approvals up to 1000 were auto approved if Dell and Laptop

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Sure you can. Cellular automata don't require our physical computers

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:14 PM

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unless the person the hardware was for executive, then it was 2000 and Mac/Dell

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software could be approved by anyone up to 5000 except for Sharon who couldn't approve any software

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:15 PM

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God damn it, Sharon

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:15 PM

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after 5000 it had to go Mike/Bob, after 10k it was Mike

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but Sharon could approve vehicle purchases up to 20k

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:16 PM

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That's what's really cool about declarative programming, BTW. You describe what things are

You don't tell the computer how to solve your problem, you simply tell it what the solution is

The computer then figures out the details

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:16 PM

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so just doing "if purchaser.approval is Sharon and purchase.amount > 5000: reject"

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wouldn't work

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Yes I'm aware of how declarative works

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:16 PM

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most declarative programming becomes this GUI unreadable mess

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:16 PM

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However you still need to know how the bits work in order to make those bits

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:17 PM

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so it becomes Write Once, Edit Never, like a Perl program

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Knit one, Perl two

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Someone has to do coding, but again... business logic is not coding

Kind of like that, yeah

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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I think I'm not understanding what your point is

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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But you can edit it. It'd be kind of like a lambda calculus thing

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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If your point is that there needs to be more business logic solutions, then cool. Do it

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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there are plenty of those already

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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But repeating the buzzwords and loose concepts of it won't create it

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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ServiceNow/SalesForce is two I can think of

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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@rough sapphire Rather you didn't drop random videos into the middle of an ongoing conversation

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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banhammer

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Kind of rude

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Thank you

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Azure has Logic Apps

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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I think I lost what your overall point is, King

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Why don't we use business logic more and coding less?

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:20 PM

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AWS/GCP has something similar I'm sure

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Because you're highly restricted in what you can do in those business logic situations

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You work within the constraints of the system. In coding, you create the system

lofty dirge Jul 14, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Hemlock, how is Excel work going?

plucky ridge Jul 14, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Better this time around

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I'm happy they have a Ribbon Designer

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Less happy that I have to do it by hand but eh

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I can live with it

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Was hoping for a way that I could just dump all the images into it and it'd generate the buttons for me

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But this is okay too

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Should have gone with this in the first place....

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It's what I get for trying to be too forward thinking, I guess

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Another plus side is that it's far, FAR easier to interact with the workbook and what have you

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No having to try and sync between two different systems, essentially

viral panther Jul 14, 2020, 9:03 PM

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(Sorry, reading about some stuff)

I'm not sure what I was going for since I don't do business or business stuff 🤷

I guess just a way to describe how a business is run. A universal mode l of sorts

small fossil Jul 14, 2020, 10:41 PM

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erm

frozen crane Jul 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Ducks aren't real?

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Just like the entire state of Washington?

plain slate Jul 15, 2020, 12:12 AM

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texas isn't real

tight meadow Jul 15, 2020, 12:21 AM

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California might not exist if it stays perpetually on fire

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Anyone have any experience creating a .dll file out of a .c file?

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I feel like it should be really easy and that I'm just an idiot

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But I've never had to do this

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:22 AM

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The smartest guy I know said he tried to do it and asked two of his professional brothers for help... His conclusion was that they're magic

topaz aurora Jul 15, 2020, 1:22 AM

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The last time I'd to compile a DLL I had to use MSVC

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:22 AM

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(Although his case was maybe a little bit special. I'm not sure)

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:22 AM

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I'm just trying to create a .dll file so I can call it in python with ctypes

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What's MSVC? Visual Code?

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:23 AM

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(Combining two different .NET languages)

topaz aurora Jul 15, 2020, 1:23 AM

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The Visual C/C++ compiler I think it's what's called

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Why are you so insistent on doing it this way?

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Just to learn how?

topaz aurora Jul 15, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Basically Microsoft's C/C++ compiler

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:25 AM

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I have C code that does a thing with an obsolete file type. It's basically impossible to recreate in Python since no documentation exists for the file type, but I still need a Python file that parses the data.

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Don't

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Just convert the output to what you want

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What's the file type?

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:26 AM

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.eas

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:26 AM

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What does the raw binary file look like?

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:27 AM

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I don't know.

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Check it out. Maybe it's pretty easy to read

topaz aurora Jul 15, 2020, 1:28 AM

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How about wrapping the C code in Cython?

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:29 AM

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https://fileinfo.com/extension/eas

EAS File Extension - What is a .eas file and how do I open it?

Learn about .EAS files and view a list of programs that open them.

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:29 AM

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I don't think I've ever used Cython

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I just know that my boss wanted a Python parser

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Now I'm curious

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:30 AM

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TheKing, it's an output of an EEG device, the company discontinued the file type 12 years ago

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Can you post the file that generates your output file?

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:31 AM

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I don't think I can, but it's messy af. It's basically someone going byte by byte and doing all kinds of pointer voodoo

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To process it

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I was originally going to recreate this all in Python, but the code is so dense that now I kind of don't want to do too much to the input/outputs

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:32 AM

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That sounds so weird... this is for a microcontroller, right?

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So I guess maybe that's why :/

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:32 AM

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No. It used to be on a microcontroller, now they want to host it on the cloud

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Right, the code you have is for a microcontroller

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Yeah

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Well, my question is... Why do you want a DLL?

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What's the plan for the interface?

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I want to use ctypes to be able to call the functions in python

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Even if you build a DLL you still need some way to get communication and am understanding of the data

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:39 AM

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But I think I need a .dll for that

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The .c file returns a pointer to a structure, I'll modify it to return the structure itself

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Right, but you don't seem to understand the data structure so how would you use the DLL?

Anyway, I've mentioned it a few times but I think SWIG is the easiest way to do what you want. Maybe give it a shot if you can't make any progress :P

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:46 AM

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I've made progress in understanding the data structure the file outputs

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But the internal data structures are a mess

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 1:47 AM

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So why not just ignore it? I'd you're tryyto make a DLL I take it you won't be using Python for parsing

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Yeah, I'm planning on ignoring the internal data structures, lol

ripe fractal Jul 15, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Ducks are real

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I would know

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I am one

topaz aurora Jul 15, 2020, 2:07 AM

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🦆

tight meadow Jul 15, 2020, 2:19 AM

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ducks are not real

tight meadow Jul 15, 2020, 3:28 AM

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I have a question, I DON'T PLAN ON DOING THIS: but is it possible to login as a bot on discord?

main wyvern Jul 15, 2020, 3:29 AM

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@tight meadow I believe discord does not like it.

tight meadow Jul 15, 2020, 3:29 AM

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I know

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I was just curious if it is possible

main wyvern Jul 15, 2020, 3:30 AM

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https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002192352-Automated-user-accounts-self-bots-

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Oh 100% possible. But you'll probably get banned everywhere it goes.

tight meadow Jul 15, 2020, 3:31 AM

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I know, I don't plan on doing it

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I just wanted to know if it is a possibility

main wyvern Jul 15, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Discord would be chaos.

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Especially with giveaways and etc. Nightmare fuel spamming.

formal blaze Jul 15, 2020, 3:59 AM

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I was watching youtube and a video about coding was making a ranking app that arranges specific thumbnails by votes
And the algorithm was built in maths ?!

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I mean I don't think it didn't have any relation with maths

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The algorithm:

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Are they overreacting or it's real ?

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 4:03 AM

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u know that meme it has always been

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well it has always been math

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 4:33 AM

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@formal blaze Computer science is very heavily involved with math. In fact, it's a field in mathematics

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A lot of algorithms are nothing more than calculating numbers in a certain way

formal blaze Jul 15, 2020, 4:37 AM

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@viral panther Isn't ranking thumbnails all about comparing numbers here ?

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 4:38 AM

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What numbers?

formal blaze Jul 15, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Every thumbnail will get it's rank in the custom web page by comparing the number of votes it has

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The most votes gets the higher rank

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Even a simple model like would require some manipulation. You can't treat 5 votes that are all positive the same way you would 1000 votes that are 99% positive

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So you have to do some math magic to make things fair

formal blaze Jul 15, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Well the app he coded was very simple

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For the homepage you see 2 thumbnails

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You click one

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It's a vote

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You get other 2 thumbnails

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Etc.

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Doesn't even requires 5 hours of coding

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I'm talking about the whole website he made

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Goes to show you how important math is then if even such a simple app needs it

formal blaze Jul 15, 2020, 4:43 AM

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I'm discussing because if most of these basic apps requires maths then my career is a joke 😂

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 4:44 AM

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What's your career?

formal blaze Jul 15, 2020, 4:44 AM

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If I can make it without these complicated stuff, There's no problem ?

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Maybe. Depends on what you're trying to do

formal blaze Jul 15, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I don't know if you can watch the video since I don't wanna waste your time

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 4:46 AM

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That's just one small app. Maybe you'll need math for the next project. Maybe you won't

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It depends on the app. Math is a pretty great tool though, you should definitely get comfortable with it

formal blaze Jul 15, 2020, 4:47 AM

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I will definitely keep that in mind, Thanks <3

boreal olive Jul 15, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Guys is prime os good?

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 6:32 AM

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@boreal olive Prime OS?

quick ledge Jul 15, 2020, 6:32 AM

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i haven't used it

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Are you talking about https://www.primeos.in/?

quick ledge Jul 15, 2020, 6:33 AM

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but a friend has used phoenix os

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Considering I've never even heard of it until now, I'd have to do more research.
But, upon initial cursory inspection, I wouldn't trust some random OS claiming to be the end-all, be-all.

quick ledge Jul 15, 2020, 6:33 AM

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yeah

boreal olive Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 AM

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That's why I asked about it

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Maybe someone has used it

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 AM

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https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png

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Never fails to be relevant

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end-all, be-all never fails to fail

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 9:16 AM

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Windows task manager resources view is esoteric at best... I look at my ram usage and it says I'm using up about 1.8gb in total from all processes... It says 88% usage (I have 8GB installed). Then I fire up some RAM hogs and I get my ram usage up to about 4.5GB.. Now it says 93% usage

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???? yert I fucking hate that windows won't let me see what is truly using up the ram, put your cards on the table what the fuck

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I might actually switch to linux because of this, I imagine they would have more transparency with these kinds of lookups and less winbloat

gentle moss Jul 15, 2020, 9:24 AM

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use resource monitor not task manager if you want a more detailed view

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bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Tried it yet showed the same

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 10:31 AM

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Birds aren't real

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And ducks are birds

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So ducks aren't real

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/s

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Task Manager RAM output is easily understandable

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quick ledge Jul 15, 2020, 1:47 PM

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What about individual programs?

gentle moss Jul 15, 2020, 1:47 PM

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look up, resource monitor.

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 1:48 PM

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In Use: What Applications actually have data in
Available: How much is available for usage (memory being used by cache and memory requested by applications but not actually in use)
Committed: How much memory has been given over to applications regardless of use or not
Cached: How much RAM is being used to backed files or paged memory, under memory pressure, this is second chunk of RAM that would be turned over to applications, free memory (if any would be first)
Paged Pool: System Reserved
Non-paged Pool: System Reserved```

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 1:48 PM

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I'm deadass looking into linux

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fuck winbloat

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Bill Gates is a hack

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 1:49 PM

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I don't care what you do, but don't blame OS for lack of knowledge

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 1:49 PM

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It's literally hiding shit from me

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I've looked into every nook and cranny

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 1:50 PM

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If you want to see your memory table, you can download Microsoft tool called "RAMMap" that will show you a break down of your RAM usage byte by byte

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 1:50 PM

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I have literally downloaded that exact program

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but it didn't tell me the exact processes using it up

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It gave me the categories, sure

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but that helps me jack

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 1:51 PM

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really?

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 1:51 PM

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hold on, I'll burden my RAM and I can screenshot what I mean

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Works for me

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bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Yeah, but it doesn't add up for me

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I'll show you what I mean

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my goto way of burdening the computer is opening up GTNH lol

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 1:53 PM

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because you misunderstand Windows Memory management (which works like Linux)

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you can't just add up, because some of categories overlap

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 1:53 PM

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either I must've missed something completely obvious or I have a fucking taiwanese cryptominer slowly chipping away at my computer

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I am talking about the individual processes

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 1:54 PM

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only thing you really care about is memory (private working set)

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that's RAM that application has asked for and cannot easily be moved around

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Ok, good, I got some visual proof

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Ok so private working set == "Proces Private"?

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 1:56 PM

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under which application

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 1:56 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 1:58 PM

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so java has given 4.2GB of RAM, 77MB are not actually in use, 12MB need to be sent to page file and 10MB are being used to memory mapping tracking

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 1:58 PM

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right

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but there is no way in hell that all those processes amount to 5.3GB

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Do you have onboard video card?

gentle moss Jul 15, 2020, 2:00 PM

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thinking hardware reserved?

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:00 PM

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yep

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:00 PM

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that sounds like gibberish to me

gentle moss Jul 15, 2020, 2:01 PM

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what?

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:01 PM

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I have a GTX 1050ti

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if that's what you're asking for

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:01 PM

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on this machine

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:01 PM

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...yes?

gentle moss Jul 15, 2020, 2:01 PM

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i mean it's not gibberish. if you had an onboard a portion of your RAM would be reserved for the onboard graphics.

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Yes but it's gibberish to me

gentle moss Jul 15, 2020, 2:02 PM

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ah right

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:02 PM

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talk to me like I'm a toddler

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:02 PM

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something is asking for RAM but not using it

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:02 PM

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a toddler that really likes playing with big mc modpacks

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which still hampers performance?

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:03 PM

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depends

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Alright, and how to find said "something"?

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:03 PM

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really, for Windows Memory, only counter that matters is Hard Faults/Sec

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and commit charge, both are listed in resource monitor

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because of way it works

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for example, python

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:07 PM

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ok, so this makes a little more sense at least

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the commits do seem to add up

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Commit, requested and granted, Working Set, ACTUALLY holding data

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in RAMMap, Use count comes from memory manager, processes is actually looking at what in RAM HOLD stuff

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and stuff can be committed to it by Windows BUT actually shared

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for example, if two python.exe processes fired up and asked for requests library, they both would show requests library in memory but Windows would actually share it between them

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:09 PM

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hm

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:09 PM

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windows would mark both of those processes using 5MB of memory for request library even though it was shared

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10MB used, 5MB actually in RAM

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Well, that's the weird part, because I didn't notice any really huuuge performance hit that 100% ram usage does imply

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:10 PM

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have you hit commit charge at 100?

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:11 PM

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yes

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I refer to my screenshot

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:11 PM

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well, is used at 100%

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I am

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I see commit at 90%

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that's not 100%

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:11 PM

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graph at right hand corner

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Hard Page Faults is ultimate counter

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:12 PM

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oh

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wait LMAO

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yeah its 90%

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:12 PM

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that means windows is running to hard drive constantly for memory requests, either because it can't keep files in RAM or it's hitting the page file constantly because it's paging

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Right, so the faults you mentioned, what do they signify?

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:12 PM

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what I said

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:12 PM

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oh

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:13 PM

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memory requests cannot be backed by RAM, they must be resolved by hard disk seeking

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:13 PM

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That makes sense

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:13 PM

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for example, when java opens mod.jar then closes it, unless Windows is under significant memory pressure, it leaves mod.jar in RAM

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so when java requests mod.jar, it's "Soft Page Fault", Windows didn't have the file it wanted inside java.exe memory map but it's in RAM so it's simple matter of mapping RAM into java.exe memory set and saying "here you go!"

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:14 PM

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right

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god, I hate being at the mercy of things I do not understand a thing about

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:14 PM

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hard page fault means "Shit shit shit, I have to go pull mod.jar from hard drive"

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Now you're talking my language! haha

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:15 PM

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so when you open a new program, you see a bunch of hard page faults because obviously nothing is in RAM

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but after that, it should be close to 0

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:15 PM

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right, great, jotted down

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If I notice an anomaly I can't explain with your explanation I'll let you know

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:16 PM

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at work in my fleet of 200 Windows Servers, only memory statistic I alert on is hard page fault

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:16 PM

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For now the performance is average so I can just chalk it up to false alerts

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:16 PM

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I track other stuff because it's useful in situation, but otherwise, hard page fault is clearest indication that Windows is under serious memory contention issues

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:16 PM

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It's real shitty of the taskmanager to say a hundred percent usage though, makes me freak out

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:17 PM

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if your commit is 100%, you could be out of RAM or not

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some applications (JAVA COUGH COUGH)

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:17 PM

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heh

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:17 PM

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are notorious for asking for a bunch of RAM and not using it all

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:18 PM

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so even if other processes are literally begging on the streets for more ram then the ram won't be reallocated to be used somewhere else and taken away from java?

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:18 PM

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depends

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if commit/used is way out of wack, it might remove it from java

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it's preference is purge RAM that is backing swap memory and cached files

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:19 PM

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right

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:19 PM

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but if that is close to 0, then yea, it will begin walking back commit

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 2:21 PM

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never hurts with a crash course in what ram is, lol

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 2:21 PM

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if that's not possible, the new application will be told "no memory for you"

gloomy mural Jul 15, 2020, 2:56 PM

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ducks are not real?

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 3:18 PM

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never have been.

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:42 PM

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it's easy to do html and css

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 3:42 PM

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^fuck you

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It's hard as shit

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:42 PM

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ooof

topaz aurora Jul 15, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Never been fond of design so I find it hard too

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 3:43 PM

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(It's hard when you have no visual creativity)

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:43 PM

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I just read some ones code so u though it was easy

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📎 Screenshot_2020-07-15-23-43-24-97.jpg

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I think design is easy for me since i do digi arts

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:44 PM

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@bleak rain Easy to learn, hard to do well

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 3:44 PM

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I guess

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emanueljg.com

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Oh god that font would drive me insane on my phone

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 3:44 PM

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I struggled with this frontend for... several hours

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and it looks straight outta 90's internet

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Frameworks

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:45 PM

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I think i get it now

bleak rain Jul 15, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Though that being said that was my very first foray into frontend

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:45 PM

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People have already done all the heavy lifting for you

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There's no shame in using a framework

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Css is for the design and html is for the functionality

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:45 PM

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@rough sapphire Sort of

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:45 PM

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also the files are clean

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idk about indentions tho

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:46 PM

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HTML is what you see, what the browser uses to know what goes where. CSS is for styling the HTML, so telling it what is what color, what font to use, where to put stuff, etc.

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There is SOME functionality you can add in to a page using HTML, but most of that is relegated to JS

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:46 PM

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yup thats what i mean but in simpler way

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Fair enough

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:47 PM

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the heck with the indentions tho

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:47 PM

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What do you mean

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In which

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:47 PM

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📎 Screenshot_2020-07-15-23-47-30-33.jpg

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this

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:47 PM

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It's for helping you know what parts are nested in others

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:48 PM

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also im still studying in android XD

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Same as with any other language

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Python does the same thing, but the only difference is that it requires it

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:48 PM

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idk cause its kinda different it only has 1 space

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:48 PM

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2

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:49 PM

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dang easy to learn!!!
(hard to apply)

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:49 PM

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<body>
  <header>
12345

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:49 PM

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motivation!!!!!!!!

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:49 PM

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2 spaces

lofty dirge Jul 15, 2020, 3:49 PM

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HTML doesn’t use indentations for control so most people only use 2

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Also considering how many more indentations you end up with...

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:50 PM

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the code looks kinda zigzagy

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:50 PM

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I think of it as staircases

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:51 PM

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i just noticed this

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<> this pattern

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every that has an ending of <>

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/

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Yep

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:52 PM

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<>

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wtf

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:52 PM

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It's how HTML knows that that block has ended

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:52 PM

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\

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:52 PM

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</>

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Yeah I know what you meant

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:52 PM

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i wonder why

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Because that's how they designed it?

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There isn't really a deep philosophical reason

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XML does the same thing

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:53 PM

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hidden function maybe XD

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:53 PM

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But it's not hidden

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You just said what it does

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:53 PM

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\kill @mobs

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Not appropriate

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:53 PM

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\kill @e

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 3:53 PM

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At all

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 3:54 PM

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uhhh

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i cant believe myself

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everyrhing i do needs a pc

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cya

polar vigil Jul 15, 2020, 4:00 PM

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What is project you have learned the most?

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 4:01 PM

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@plucky ridge
guess what
||remember the site i said earlier with the nihongo quest I got it's code now its mine XD||

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timw to do the CPE
copy
paste
edit

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easy website 😂

polar vigil Jul 15, 2020, 4:02 PM

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What

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 4:02 PM

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So you're going to scalp an entire website?

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Well that's fairly shitty

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And likely against their terms

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 4:03 PM

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ha

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well gg to me

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luckily Edit was part of it so hahahahaa

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remove that copy right 😂

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 4:04 PM

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I've got no respect for people who do that

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If it's someone else's hard work or dream then why would it be the right thing to do to just steal it?

rough sapphire Jul 15, 2020, 4:06 PM

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just kidding it was all for references

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also I just noticed that html is dependent language

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cant function without css

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probably

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haha

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srly it was all fir references also i dint sven knie html that much yet

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I for my keybodard

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F

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 4:09 PM

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It can function without CSS

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It just won't be as pretty

rancid forge Jul 15, 2020, 4:39 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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i just learned you can type normal variables

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that makes things handy

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 4:40 PM

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It's pretty nice

rancid forge Jul 15, 2020, 4:41 PM

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now i can actually see the methods and variables that i want to even though i wouldn't be able to before

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also if i return self does that mean i can string methods together

plucky ridge Jul 15, 2020, 4:46 PM

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I believe so

honest star Jul 15, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Mmmm I'm 6th in line for this waitlist class. Here's to hoping people fuck up and don't do the daily "yes, I'm sure I still want to take this class"

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Ask the student advisor and or teacher for an exemption code

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In my experience, if you ask for permission they let you in even if the class is full and has a wait list

honest star Jul 15, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Not for this class or this program. It's not my exact research field, just something I want to take.

quick ledge Jul 15, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Hire 6 hitmen

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Or one really good hitman

round rose Jul 15, 2020, 6:02 PM

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or both

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outsource the outsourcing

quick ledge Jul 15, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Oh yeah it's all coming together

round rose Jul 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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def hire(pay):
    if pay >= good_enough:
        return hire(pay / 2)
    else:
        snitch()```

quick ledge Jul 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Nice

round rose Jul 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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There was a story associated with this code, hold on

quick ledge Jul 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Ikkk

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I've heard of it

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Was trying to find it myself

round rose Jul 15, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I found the original article, but not the meme

#

📎 unknown.png

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Different caption, but eh

quick ledge Jul 15, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Apparently the final hitman felt sympathy towards the guy in whom the hit was on, and confessed to him

round rose Jul 15, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I think he's more a miss man than a hitman at this point

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getit

quick ledge Jul 15, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Lmao got'em

viral panther Jul 15, 2020, 7:45 PM

#

Does anyone have a recommendation for Code Wars vs Code Kaya's vs whatever else?

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I used one of those sites and it sucked, but I can't remember which site it was :(

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So now I just want to know what the 'best' one is

undone berry Jul 15, 2020, 8:15 PM

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@scenic blaze if you do it in the terminal that pycharm provides, you should be in whatever conda's equivalent of a venv is

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so it should be a relatively painless process

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 8:16 PM

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I hope so. I haven't had much luck with relatively painless processes lately, haha

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It's funny/not funny how much of the job can have like... dealing with stuff that has nothing to do with coding or even thinking of coding

sand inlet Jul 15, 2020, 9:15 PM

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@vital moth any channel in Python Help: Available is available and you can post a message there to claim it

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any channel in Python Help: Occupied is being used, if you talk there it should be to help the person who claimed the channel with their problem, not to state your own problem

vital moth Jul 15, 2020, 9:15 PM

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does anyone know why my .exe file keeps closing when i converted right

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ok

sand inlet Jul 15, 2020, 9:15 PM

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any channel in Python Help: Dormant is dormant and will come back later

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(this is an off-topic channel because there wasn't any other fitting channel for teaching you about the information you should have already found by reading #❓｜how-to-get-help)

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Does anyone know what it's called when you're trying to figure out the file structure of a binary file?

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Like, trying to figure out which bytes/bits are the header, what part of the header, etc.

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Is that just... the binary file structure?

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Or is there some technical term

undone berry Jul 15, 2020, 9:26 PM

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normally it's defined by some magic number at the top

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Right, I was just wondering if there's some kind of special lingo or term for the specs of a binary file

round rose Jul 15, 2020, 9:28 PM

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metadata?

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Hmm, maybe? I guess none of this really matters, I just don't want to be unclear or come across like a noob but I can either clarify or just suck it up

round rose Jul 15, 2020, 9:29 PM

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I think metadata technically qualifies as the correct term for it, but it's usually used to refer to specific parts of the file header

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Like artist and album data for .mp3s

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But the structure itself probably has either has a different name, or is just referred to as the file structure

ancient wolf Jul 15, 2020, 9:31 PM

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ha ha ha

round rose Jul 15, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Either way I think file structure sounds clear enough, don't stress about it

scenic blaze Jul 15, 2020, 9:37 PM

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👍

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I don't think they're going to give it to me tbh

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But if they do it will make my life a whole lot easier

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Can't believe a significant portion of my job rn is begging another company for obselete proprietary information but here we are

sullen thorn Jul 15, 2020, 11:44 PM

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https://software.pcworld.com/p36877-windows_10_professional anyone used this website? are they trustworthy?

mortal whale Jul 16, 2020, 12:44 AM

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aaa hi. uh i just kinda wanted to introduce myself although im not expecting myself to be too active. my names connor & i make discord bots just as a hobbyist. im like,,, Extremely New to this so i joined here so i can ask questions i cant answer with google, basically lol.

viral panther Jul 16, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Hi

sullen thorn Jul 16, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Welcome 🙂

scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:11 AM

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403-addicted-to-coffee

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:12 AM

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i am irritation

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im not doing anything more than i normally am

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scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:12 AM

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what programe is using that much cpu

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i mean i sees a ide

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:13 AM

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i dont even know..

scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:13 AM

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click on processes

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:13 AM

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i usually stay at 50% cpu when Kaede is running, and 25-ish% disk

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its system, and pycharm

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but i dont know why this is happening all of a sudden

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im running less than i usually do

tight meadow Jul 16, 2020, 1:13 AM

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check the processes tab

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:14 AM

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i did.

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its system, and pycharm
@rough sapphire

tight meadow Jul 16, 2020, 1:14 AM

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what does it say

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close pycharm and see what happens

scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:14 AM

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give screenshot

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:14 AM

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this was happening before.

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scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:15 AM

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what service is that expand

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:15 AM

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doesnt help, my disk is at 100% active time, with 2MB/s cuz something keeps making lots of tiny reads and writes and monopolizing my disk

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oh. of course

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tight meadow Jul 16, 2020, 1:15 AM

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that makes sense

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:15 AM

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doesnt help, my disk is at 100% active time, with 2MB/s cuz something keeps making lots of tiny reads and writes and monopolizing my disk
this happens a lot ^^^^

scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:15 AM

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lol is it updating or some shit

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:16 AM

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well i mean i have an update ready

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which.. should imply... that it's done doing what it need to do

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i want my hdd's response time back >:(

scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:16 AM

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is it normal for spotify to use that much cpu tho

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it is a music client

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and it is using as much as a browser does

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:16 AM

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it spikes

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i feel like the disk response time being so high is keeping prgrams waiting longe

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which might be the cause of the high Cpu?

scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:17 AM

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get a ssd

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:18 AM

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also this happens occasionally oogh

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well

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the thing is

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i dont think it's a hdd vs ssd issue

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my hard drive is capable of 200MBps

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i've benchmarked it mutiple times

scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:19 AM

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what
raptor drive?

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:19 AM

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its nothing special, just a laptop hdd

scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:19 AM

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why do one have raptor drive in laptop

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:19 AM

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huh

scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:19 AM

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no hdd capatible of handling 200mbps

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that is raptor drive or some sort

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:20 AM

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its a toshiba this

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vale pilot Jul 16, 2020, 1:20 AM

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ewww

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:20 AM

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well..

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not toshiba apparently

scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:20 AM

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that drive is not capable of handing 200mbps read write

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:20 AM

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scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:21 AM

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you sure your benchmark is accurate

rough sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 1:21 AM

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seagate's spec sheet says 140

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https://www.seagate.com/www-content/datasheets/pdfs/mobile-hddDS1861-2-1603-en_US.pdf

scenic briar Jul 16, 2020, 1:21 AM

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still not 200mbps