I am also often still a dumb adult lol.
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
rough sapphire
But its a little different
The difference between when I was a kid and now is that dominant popular mainstream culture was not overflowing the internet with stupidity.
Even the dumbest kids on the Internet when I was a kid were still... the type of people who gathered on the Internet. Thats kind of hard to comprehend now.
quaint rivet
back in my day we flirted with a 6 digit income skill just to impress girls with our myspace css
shakes cane at the sky
deep saffron
the myspace equivalent over here was purely wysiwyg ... no skills involved
couldn't even use a <blink> ...
rough sapphire
I grew up in the geocities/angelfire era.
That was actually why when I got older and decided I would try to pick up programming I already had some background with HTML.
While things had changed quite a lot, I still knew a lot of basic things from my childhood.
Probably the first thing I learned was that my approach to HTML as a kid was wrong.
I quickly developed a much more skilled approach to it than I had as a kid.
The main thing I would say to newbs of HTML is, "Don't have any styling in your HTML. Separate and identify your different elements. That's all HTML is for. Do all styling in CSS."
deep saffron
my first programming was with an educational computer, a toy made for kids
it had a crippled version of basic on it
rem, print, if, then, else, input, jump, clear that was about it, hours of fun, and then years and years without a computer until i finally got my uncles old pc
700 mhz amd k7, fond memories :D
rough sapphire
I wish that I had got into programming earlier. The truth is that I didn't. I got into having a web page because I was a child of the 90s internet and I wanted to have a page. But the idea of having my own programs didn't occur to me at that point.
I really wish it had
deep saffron
well after that toy pc, i never really got back into it, last years i tried, but too old for it i guess
rough sapphire
Actually I take it back.
In about year 2000 I had the first version of RPG Maker. Not the one you see today on Steam but an older one.
That actually is where I learned the concepts of conditional branching and boolean switches.
But it didn't involve code. Just coding concepts.
I wouldnt waste time with it today either
deep saffron
mh well you could argue that i do program, cnc machines and those robot arms they always show assembling cars, but that's quite different
just a file that runs from top to bottom with maybe a few loops and if/thens
plus a few bash/python scripts to automate stuff, but yeah
lost radish
back in my day we flirted with a 6 digit income skill just to impress girls with our myspace css
@quaint rivet in 10ft of snow, uphill both ways, with no shoes
and we were thankful
quaint rivet
๐ฉ๐
lost radish
I'm having a hard time finding a simple icon pack related to software stuff. I can download the individual icons (too much work), but I just can't find a downloadable pack
Ah well. I'll just... not do that I guess
quaint rivet
flaticon looks like they have ok packs, all they want is a registration to download whole packs at a time
they also have an api
deep saffron
there is a humble bundle icon pack (nvm just gaming stuff)
lost radish
here is a message (nvm disregard it) lol
deep saffron
yeah i answered and went to look for a link, and saw that it was just for gaming, so i added that
maybe just now someone is looking for icons for their game too, and will find it helpful ๐คท๐ฝ
open flame
Does anyone know of any good resources to learn C++? There are some SDKs I have interface with that are C++. I am using OpenCV to extract frames and do a little preprocessing, then I am using this custom SDK for on those frames.
rough sapphire
does windows evaluate environment variables only once
pardon?
PATH=otherstuff;%PYTHONPATH%
PY36=c:\python36\
PYTHONPATH=%PY36%
pythonpath evaluated correctly to the variable but the path variable contained the string "%PYTHONPATH%"
PATH was technically before pythonpath
rough sapphire
windows expands and populates the env vars in a lexicographic order
plucky ridge
But system wide I think it's loaded when there's a user login
rough sapphire
i did. the thing works if I straight up jam %PY36% in the PATH
plucky ridge
So if you log off and log in then it'll work
rough sapphire
you mean it's different to relogin than to restart the command prompt?
VAR_01=1
VAR_02=%VAR_01%-2
VAR_03=%VAR_02%-3
produces
VAR_01 is 1
VAR_02 is 1-2
VAR_03 is 1-2-3
Sometimes. Actually you know what, I might be thinking of group policies
rough sapphire
๐ฎ
rough sapphire
like i said, just order your vars in the correct order
if a var relies on another var, put the other var before the first var
plucky ridge
I had this issue previously where I had a Python 2 address that was above my Python 3 stuff
Or just use py instead
That'll handle pathing for you if you tell it what version you want
rough sapphire
they're alphabetically here
plucky ridge
Or it'll default to your highest stable version
Honestly if you're on Windows, you should be using py regardless
rough sapphire
you want
PY36=c:\python36\
PYTHONPATH=%PY36%
PATH=otherstuff;%PYTHONPATH%
:<
can't
why not?
plucky ridge
Why's that?
rough sapphire
what exactly changes %PYTHONPATH% that can't change %PATH%
because they're alphabetically ordered and that can't be changed
you can just do PATH=%PATH% again dog
what?
๐ฎ
plucky ridge
And again, py itself shouldn't care
rough sapphire
I don't want no py
plucky ridge
Why
rough sapphire
because it's gonna mess up my stuff
plucky ridge
It's literally there to make life easier on Windows
It's not though
What would it mess up
rough sapphire
trust me it will
i have a fully functioning setup right now and i don't want no py
plucky ridge
You're telling me that it's easier to mess with the path than to do py -3.6 to make sure it uses Python 3.6?
rough sapphire
apparently i have it?
plucky ridge
Yes
rough sapphire
lol it works
plucky ridge
Yes
rough sapphire
how does it know where my pythons are
plucky ridge
It keeps track of it
It gets noted during the installation
(I think that's right, anyway)
But either way, it comes with the Windows version of Python to help avoid having to deal with PATH
It's not like I was trying to lead you astray
rough sapphire
i was just afraid it'll muck up jupyter notebooks
those things are notoriously finicky with the kernels\environments
plucky ridge
Understandable, but all py does is just direct it to the Python version you tell it to
Nothing more nothing less
rough sapphire
okay. good.
i thought it would start messing around with path variables or something
breaking my system.
but it's operating through the registry so it's fine I guess
plucky ridge
Yarp
rough sapphire
mhmm. breaking temperature records again
plucky ridge
Which direction
rough sapphire
+24C when the last record was +20C according to the windows weather app
thanks i'll keep it here. spring is just coming.
plucky ridge
5c here
rough sapphire
๐
rough sapphire
let's get this covid thing out of the way so we can get to summer
start going to the beach
rough sapphire
the C's?
plucky ridge
Centigrades
plucky ridge
Rather not rush nature any more than humanity already has
rough sapphire
๐ฎ
plucky ridge
Yeah it's been doing that here as well
But in fairness, the midwest in the US is always wacky when it comes to weather
So it's nothing new
rough sapphire
covid19 and forest fires; summer will be fun
plucky ridge
Won't change for me
Being a hermit has its advantages
I'm still having to go into work but I'm okay with that. I'm just stoked because it means my family won't ask me to come over so I can just hang out with my wife and play games
Yeesssssssss
rough sapphire
he is not a programmer by trade
i've been coming to the office
it's nice and quiet here
just me and my boss really
rough sapphire
what sorta certification do you need to work where you do?
who, me?
had 0 certs when i started working here, just my reputation and natural charm ;)
what sort of profile do they look for then?
someone who has established that they know what they're doing and has something to show for it
in my case, it was my blog, the fact that I had done bounties in the past for companies who are their clients, and my CVEs
i'd guess so anyways
i wish
xx 
So this was hobby-turned-job for you?
pretty much
plucky ridge
I have proof that I hate myself. I have made cofftea
I wanted the benefits of both with none of the enjoyment, apparently
rough sapphire
what is the benefit of tea
plucky ridge
Flavonoids
pine vector
it can hold more sugar than coffee?
plucky ridge
Apparently there are aspects of it that can help "reduce free radicals" in the body, but I mainly drink it because there's another part of it that helps your body better handle caffeine
Giving you more alertness with less jitter
So my dumb brain tried to bank on that
undone berry
cofftea is fine IMO - although it is just slightly worse tasting than either on their own
rough sapphire
yeah, my next question would've been why you just didn't make a cup of each
Apparently there are aspects of it that can help "reduce free radicals" in the body
So none of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgfTDOsxmMY
instead of pouring them together like a madman
undone berry
2 mugs to wash up
rough sapphire
pine vector
what's the ratio here? 1:1, 45:1? so many questions....
rough sapphire
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
pine vector
does it have a sports star name (e.g An Arnold Palmer)?
plucky ridge
One to one mostly
And no, Arnold Palmers are tea and lemonade
This is nowhere near that tasty
And I honestly don't know why I did this
It's like I feel the need to punish myself in little ways sometimes
pine vector
right, but does cofftea have an Arnie equivalent name?
pine vector
lol
plucky ridge
And if it was cold, it'd be Iced Garbage
pine vector
Starbucks would like to talk to you. they think they can market it well.
plucky ridge
"I've got a great idea for a product, guys. It's the worst thing most people will have put in their mouths. Hipsters will love it!"
undone berry
so it is - TIL
sand goblet
I like it
undone berry
isn't chai just the chinese word for tea?
sand goblet
I mean you're about to google it anyway
undone berry
Yeah, I am googling it and I am wrong
sand goblet
:>
rough sapphire
it's derived from chinese
but the word chai is used in multiple languages yes
the origin is cha
undone berry
Chai/Chai lattes look pretty damn good tbf
I've never even really thought about them before
rough sapphire
also leeroy my nickname changed from white to green
plucky ridge
I'm just not as huge on the spice part of it
Because you're part of the Jam again
Right?
rough sapphire
that I am
rough sapphire
lel
plucky ridge
I actually didn't do it in time
undone berry
not fixing it, that guy can have the ping
plucky ridge
So someone else did
Might as well have been my cat
(which is a test account Ves uses)
rough sapphire
well it's a nifty looking cat
plucky ridge
It is an actual picture of my cat, though
rough sapphire
๐
plucky ridge
My fuzzy buddy Lucky
undone berry
Ginger cats are great
rough sapphire
plucky ridge
He is the most lovey cat in the world, I swear
He's all about purring and loving and headbutts
undone berry
Both of my cats are really unlovey 99% of the time. Then like 1% of the time they will just demand affection
plucky ridge
The only time he's not lovey is when he's not feeling well
plucky ridge
Like you could pick him up and bug him and then when you put him down he'll come back for pettings two seconds later
He's nuts
@rough sapphire Same reason it's that way with people. We're all different
undone berry
random aside - Google photos is fucking great. I can just search cat and see a bunch of photos of my cat
plucky ridge
Nice
rough sapphire
@plucky ridge what if I want a cat like that
can I go somewhere to get one that's like that but not take it if they're not
plucky ridge
No idea how to get one. This one came with my wife
rough sapphire
I don't want to hate on the cat but I'd rather have a cat that would be happy that I'm petting it all the time
plucky ridge
Well of course. Actually it was funny, when I had the huge scare with him when he had bladder stones, we had to take him to a vet school for the surgery. They said that if every cat was like him, everyone would want a cat
plucky ridge
Absolutely
rough sapphire
hmm there was one orange goof that tried to always climb on me when i went to pet it
maybe that would be a good cat to adopt
he was always like "hey guys, come look at this guy, he's friendly", and his friends would just look at him dumb-foundedly
plucky ridge
Usually a good indicator.
The ultimate indicator is if he closes his eyes while you're petting him
That's a huge sign of trust
rough sapphire
Chai/Chai lattes look pretty damn good tbf
@undone berry chai lattes are amazing
solid pollen
tardy goblet
poor Liechtenstein
eternal sequoia
What happened in Liechtenstein?
eternal sequoia
Yup
eternal sequoia
Iโm leaving Pierian
eternal sequoia
He left too?
tardy goblet
a while ago
eternal sequoia
Howโd you get the Jam moniker?
I actually came here from the Arcade discoed ๐
tardy goblet
I actually registered for game jam with arcade
haha
but I called it quits due to my new job, won't have time for jam
eternal sequoia
I did too. But no Kermit activation for me yet
tardy goblet
@mild rock is here too
eternal sequoia
Excellent.
tardy goblet
Why you decided to leave pieran now?
eternal sequoia
Too many tags form impatient grasshoppers
tardy goblet
๐
sand goblet
If you still have the jam role, make sure you DM staff
if you're actually leaving that is
undone berry
I let the staff know about the team change
and they updated WorldWake's role (He took Lossberg's place)
so I assume they're aware
tardy goblet
@eternal sequoia i considered leaving it too. It played its role for me and I think has no further use for me
eternal sequoia
Iโve learned a great deal helping out in there. Now it seems I just search the logs and paste my old answers.
Thatโs no fun anymore
tardy goblet
Well help system here is really well thought
And it's not tied to specific courses
So chances are you can learn even more
eternal sequoia
Youโd think Pierian was.. ๐
tardy goblet
Heh
Knowing you, you might indeed
Takes a while though it seems
I mostly hang at #career-advice here snd some topical like #async-and-concurrency and #data-science-and-ml
eternal sequoia
Iโm going into Django when Iโm not distracted by Arcade ๐
tardy goblet
why the interest for arcade btw?
eternal sequoia
For my cards game
I need a more attractive interface than text to show it off with
Now Iโll sleep. TTYL 
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire I was following TimedJSONWebSignatureSerializer in the repo, and outside of getting/verifying it, I'm curious how it's being used outside of this?
Other than the sending of emails to verify email and reset password, nothing. I put it in there for the purpose of making a token to send emails. That was where I learned about it. There might come other cases for it but i havent learned them yet
I appreciate you taking the time to look at my code. I havent had a chance to look at the issue you posted because its kind of an active time at my house. But I definitely will.
It's no problem at all. It pretty much just boils down to that code snippet I've already sent ๐
pine vector
i'm assuming its akin to a JWT with the exp set?
rough sapphire
it's from itsdangerous.TimedJSONWebSignatureSerializer
I'm wondering if I need to use tokens like that when I do things like have a user delete something they have posted. Currently the way I was going to approach it is to only show the link to delete it if they are logged in and its their post.
pine vector
ahh. JOSE. i've come across it being mentioned when i was implementing JWT.
rough sapphire
But i got around to thinking that doesnt stop someone from finding the id, especially since they are not uuids but sequential
The internal ids honestly shouldn't matter. I think how you've got it set up is a good idea
cool.
If you find out my specific id is 5123, it shouldn't give you anything extra
I can just check at the delete confirm page if the current user is the author of the post
that will work fine enough without a token
Oh, you're talking about their posts?
pine vector
re the ENVVARS: i've grappled with this too. i think in the webapp-type space dotfiles are the norm, but moving to Vaults with OAuth-n-stuff.
rough sapphire
I must have skimmed over that section, I meant more about stuff like resetting passwords and the like
Because the links make that a good idea
right well its not fully implemented yet
so there isnt much to look over in that regard
Im just thinking about it
pine vector
i'll stop derailing... ๐
rough sapphire
no worries
@pine vector You're alright ๐
But if you're checking if someone owns that post, that isn't hard to do. You should have ownership within the database of every post and who it corresponds to
yeah I can do that.
Preferably, setting up roles/permissions
I already have that set up more or less.
in the db
I swear by the time Im done I will be able to be a DBA. Because ive never designed a database before and every new relation in SQLAlchemy is a thing Im learning to do, I have to do it one thing at a time.
So every time I add a feature I end up having to try to migrate the changes.
Most times because its only in testing I can just drop the tables but
I usually try to migrate first.
rough sapphire
I need to master the art of frequent and descriptive commit messages.
pine vector
its a constant struggle.
earnest sphinx
Can someone recommend me a show to watch on Netflix?
I'm out of options.
can't even take a walk outside ๐ฆ
opal timber
Witcher, altered carbon, sherlock, better call saul, lucifer, atypical, dead to me, the 100
earnest sphinx
tnks lol
which one?
if I had to pick one.
I like something adventure, interesting and exciting.
opal timber
the 100 if you like post-apocalyptic
earnest sphinx
like stranger things.
quaint rivet
have you seen tiger king?
earnest sphinx
no
opal timber
lol yes thats good too
quaint rivet
it was reall good, in a twisted way
earnest sphinx
is it a documentary?
quaint rivet
id say so
earnest sphinx
ok
quaint rivet
there is one brief scene of body gore if thats not your thing though
opal timber
lots of content warnings I'd say lmao
earnest sphinx
I'm gonna go with "the 100" first.
opal timber
theres a bunch of seasons but its one of my favorite shows
might have to get through some awkward acting in the first season but its worth it
even the newest season was pretty good once I got around to watching it
earnest sphinx
ok.
opal timber
is halt and catch fire any good?
quaint rivet
i dont have a netflix account 
pine vector
100 is a solid show...
opal timber
I cried in the last season
pine vector
we still need to finish it. only got to like ep3, i think.
opal timber
its worth it. trust :>)
earnest sphinx
do you have any other show recommendations?
just so I can take a break from it once in a while.
soft shuttle
@earnest sphinx
earnest sphinx
yep.
earnest sphinx
el amor
earnest sphinx
what was the point lol
pine vector
Altered Carbon is really good. but it is...has... lots of nudity in season 1. Witcher was a super pleasant surprise, as well (never read/played, but knew the premise).
earnest sphinx
I tried witcher.
It has a got vibe.
I tried watching first 2 seasons of got but I just don't understand anything.
Too slow too.
pine vector
GoT has a lot going on. def can't get far without tracking everything well.
pine vector
SciFi. Futuristic, social construct/struggle, centered around a small_ish_ core group of characters.
but the "world" is large.
pine vector
๐
soft shuttle
no me estoy enterando bien
low shadow
I have 2 folder. *** Actual *** on one partition and *** Backup *** on other. When I make change to *** actual *** I want exact that change to be made to *** backup *** folder. Eveytime i change *** acutal *** folder i have to copy the actual folder and use *** copy and replace *** to make change to *** backup ***. It greatly reduces my time . Any ideas?
What should i do
gentle moss
write an rsync script that will sync actual and backup
low shadow
Is pulling and cloning from github same
Like I have outdated .git and files on *** actual *** folder and updated one in github
gentle moss
sorta, git clone is pretty much for initialising a project and pull is for updating it
low shadow
So it's good to clone or to pull
Like I have outdated .git and files on *** actual *** folder and updated one in github
@low shadow for thid
I used git init on actual then uploaded. Made change on GitHub. Then now local file is outdated
gentle moss
well it sounds like your local files need to be updated from the git
low shadow
So git pull or clone
gentle moss
okay so you need to update your local file using git pull
low shadow
Ok
I will learn rsync
Thanks
And
If my partition is not mounted then rsync will fail right. When I start Kali /dev/sda3 isn't mounted
gentle moss
yes rsync will fail if the partition isn't mounted
low shadow
Hmm
gentle moss
you should auto mount your parition using /etc/fstab
gentle moss
it's primarily unix based, yes
low shadow
Then I got a problem maybe. Let me explain
See /dev/sda6/actual is a partition folder of linux and /dev/sda3/backup is of windows. Rsync works for Linux then when I update Linux actual it updates backup on windows. But when I update windows it cant update Linux because window doesn't understand ext4 partition and window doesn't have rsync thus there is a solid problem. Any ideas
@gentle moss
gentle moss
is this for programming projects?
low shadow
No genral
gentle moss
well step 1 would be to use a format for the partition that both OS's can read
exFAT or something
sand goblet
I can't recommend installing Linux on an exfat drive, including kali
gentle moss
create a new partition for your backups
sand goblet
But you can always use a separate partition yeah
low shadow
Like exFat for backup
gentle moss
yeh
low shadow
My problem is half solved now
Now I need to find rsync alternative for windows
My problem fully solved
gentle moss
yeah, there is an rsync for windows but i've never really used it
rough sapphire
@low shadow What's the issue you're having?
sand goblet
We call that command echo or cat
low shadow
No just asking. If 2>&1 redirect error to output, can input be redirected to output 0>&1 has anyone tried
rough sapphire
I ask, because this seems like an XY problem ( https://xyproblem.info/ )
low shadow
low shadow
Hmm
rough sapphire
Huh, yeah. Guess just try with that
gentle moss
bit sucky in this day and age
rough sapphire
Since that certificate is really old it looks like:
The certificate for xyproblem.info expired on October 31, 2015.
sand goblet
More like problem X, unworkable solution Y
low shadow
Rooting mobile is shit. I lost my all data
low shadow
Its because of password
rough sapphire
good updates won't nuke your phone ๐
low shadow
After TWRP installation it ask password to decrypt I didn't have the password so I wiped. Installed custom ROM. Custom ROM was shit. Again installed stock ROM. Last TWRP try without lockscreen password and encrypt device unchecked. Again the same problem. Again wiped. Again installed stock ROM. And only thing left was to say " such a fucking phone, if I had nandroid backup"
low shadow
Redmi Note 3 Snapdragon variant
Also after installing custom ROM installing TWRP for another custom ROM didn't ask password
I installed like 5 ROMs. Didn't ask password.
All custom ROMs are shit
So I installed stock rom
Again installed TWRP, asked password again fuck
rough sapphire
That's less that custom ROMs are bad, and more that whatever custom ROMs you installed didn't force encryption by the sound of it.
rough sapphire
Which is both equally fairly impressive, and terrifying. Considering that should be forced, and has been forced for.. quite a while.
@sand goblet and I talked about that a while ago
rough sapphire
Looks like your device is too old to support Lineage, too.
sand goblet
Old phones have poor support yes
sand goblet
oh, I do
low shadow
I should had backup
I had same problem when I ran RM -rf . All data lost
So now I use github (for cloud backup)
And backup
rough sapphire
What's the codename for your device?
sand goblet
"When I deleted all my data, all my data was deleted"
low shadow
low shadow
"When I deleted all my data, all my data was deleted"
@sand goblet I tried and thought ctrl+c but failed
Here never seen android 8.0 or above
sand goblet
yes, we had this discussion
gentle moss
le sigh
rough sapphire
You said the Snapdragon variant, so kenzo?
rough sapphire
https://twrp.me/xiaomi/xiaomiredminote3.html should work for your TWRP issue, if you don't have the latest
Mind you, I don't have the device, and can't test, so no guarantee.
low shadow
I don't want to root again. Not in this phonr
rough sapphire
You shouldn't have to root to flash recovery. Should be something as easy as fastboot flash recovery <img>
That is, if your bootloader is unlocked
rough sapphire
Then yeah, you should be fine
rough sapphire
Neither, considering it's just recovery
low shadow
Hmm
low shadow
But I m not going to do that or anythng. I will buy OnePlus or something else. Then root
Later
gentle moss
reading would be a super helpful thing to do
low shadow
I have other things to read ,๐๐๐๐๐๐
quaint rivet
what a character
rough sapphire
So, has anyone seen Lineage's official position on their su addon for Android 10 / Lineage 17.1?
Turns out they're getting rid of it, and their Privacy Guard setup. Using Google's "Permission Hub", and pushing people towards using Magisk for their su/root needs. Even though they don't suggest/can't discuss it in their official support channels ๐
sand goblet
Strange move.
gentle moss
o_O
rough sapphire
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
https://xyproblem.netlify.com/ exists now btw, if anyone wants to link to it and have HTTPS
gentle moss
nice
glass gorge
Need food.
rain heron
I had a question
Which makes me think of it a lot
what programming language is used in airplanes?
I assume it'll be c++?
Cause there's a lot math going on?
rough sapphire
C, probably
rough sapphire
tonnes of embedded devices
rain heron
Why not python, even?
How would they test the scripts though?
How would they debug? ๐
1 error, boom
millions of dollars gone
rough sapphire
a simulated environment where each embedded device is emulated
rain heron
O_o
rain heron
Surely rockets have a language that their computers are made up of?
What would that be?
I'd say the computing part would be python
rough sapphire
again, C
rain heron
Like the part where they record data
rough sapphire
python is slow compared to c
rain heron
And send them
rough sapphire
embedded systems such as the ones in aircraft are very specialised
rain heron
What about circuitpython then?
rough sapphire
and can't afford to run a full python stack
rough sapphire
why would they do that if they could just use C?
wide pine
its easier
rough sapphire
@wide pine I wouldn't really trust someone to program my rockets that only knows Python and not C
rain heron
O_O
rain heron
Are you saying python experts are bad programmers?
rough sapphire
no
rain heron
Are you saying C is the "boss" language?
wide pine
i meant its easier to use C
rain heron
Are you saying C is harder?
rough sapphire
c is better for that type of stuff.
rough sapphire
are you trolling?
rain heron
o.o
No I'm not
Generally speaking, wherever someone mentions the term data, python kicks the door open
rough sapphire
its a language geared towards data science
not every language is going to be a good fit for every application
One of Rโs strengths is the ease with which well-designed publication-quality plots can be produced, including mathematical symbols and formulae where needed. Great care has been taken over the defaults for the minor design choices in graphics, but the user retains full control
rain heron
mh
rain heron
R
rough sapphire
xDDD
rain heron
lmfao
rain heron
O_o
rain heron
@rough sapphire No no
rain heron
The language discussion
rough sapphire
just having a discussion on what languages are mostly used in aerocomputing
rain heron
^
rough sapphire
besides everyone knows javascript is the boss of al languages
hides from the oncoming rage
i wouldn't trust an aeroplane being coded in a language that might return a string instead of an int and cause some edge case to be missed
wide pine
GRRRRRRRRRRR
rough sapphire
xD
rain heron
Echo Echo Echo Echo Echo
rough sapphire
yep, strict typing is pretty much a must
rain heron
Did someone say "JAVASCRIPT"?
rough sapphire
gentle moss
i wouldn't trust an aeroplane that didn't have round windows
rain heron
Did someone actually say "JAVASCRIPT"?!
wide pine
yes my lord i do believe someone has spoken the words "javascript" using their oral cavity
rain heron
besides everyone knows javascript is the boss of al languages
@rough sapphire I can't believe you're in this existence
wide pine
the fact that you are occupying space in the universe at this current moment is something to be ashamed of
rough sapphire
I WAS JOKING
wide pine
the carbon that makes you up should be ashamed of itself
rain heron
"Javascript is for web development", speaks a guy in the last bench
rough sapphire
javascript is a joke
@gentle moss's girlfriend yelled JavaScript in bed, is she cheating on me?
wide pine
haha funny joke
rain heron
Thanks
rain heron
lmao
rough sapphire
O.o
gentle moss
i tried to xx but the doctor just said "TypeError"
rain heron
Did you roast @rough sapphire ?
wheat lynx
TypeError: penis() missing one required positional argument 'length'
Was it that one @gentle moss?
rain heron
@wheat lynx I spilled all the water I had in my glass over my desk, lmfao
gentle moss
hah
oak tangle
@wheat lynx Don't you mean TMI?
sand goblet
sadface
wheat lynx
@oak tangle Ah yes, that is a superior measurement system, and the name fits well :)
gentle moss
gotta get those notice severity items
modern island
Government in Russia: attempts to block telegram โ yet it is still accessible + we have a bunch of very useful sites still blocked in 2020 because of blocks in 2018 ๐
celest tide
springer released a load of textbooks for download if anyone's interested
and hasn't heard of libgen / booksc etc
celest tide
@rough sapphire oh , i think on purpose, i was sent a spreadsheet with a bunch and it looked like too much effort for an accident
rough sapphire
well share that shit then
sharing is caring
i mean if they're doing it just because, why isn't it on reddit or something?
or is it?
charred socket
Hey, is there anybody creating chatbots for Zoom?
sand goblet
this is probably what you want https://github.com/prschmid/zoomus
after a quick google
rough sapphire
what
if you're estonian, the bar is closed until 10.04. If you speak english, though, gotta wait until the 17th
charred socket
Oh cool! Thanks @sand goblet , cheers
soft violet
What if you're an Estonian that reads English? Dun dun dun...
Quantum mechanics meets public house service scheduling.
Whatever you do, do NOT pet the bar kitty.
lapis void
lost radish
But can blockchains run Crysis?
nvm I genuinely (although naively in hindsight) thought I may have been the first on that one
rough sapphire
How can you pass arguments from JS file to onclick="" JavaScript function calls... it always says that they aren't defined. Even with JS loaded in at the end of the HTML
such as
onclick="reducePoints(getWizardBar1, attr1)">
Those arguments are defined in the JavaScript.
I might have to make a fiddle
It doesnt look exactly the way i have it because its just default bootstrap but the JS is the important bit.
sonic basin
rough sapphire
Well I got my problem to work in the fiddle. Now here is just to hoping I can copy it out and see it work the same haha
compact star
I'm reading papers about measuring blockchain performance. They make hypothesis, analyse the consequences and validate their model using a simulation constructed with the very same model. What's the use of doing that ? It doesn't validate the hypothesis...
autumn herald
i leave my job next week and i have a day off to take
my manager asked me to take it to travel to give back my computer
what about no
gentle moss
good man
rough sapphire
hey guys..
is this valid within a sh script?
auth_token=$(gcloud auth print-access-token)
don't see why not
i would put double quotes around it, though
like where
gentle moss
double quote evaluation
rough sapphire
auth_token="$(gcloud auth print-access-token)"
could you tell me why we need to do that.. I didnt know
does it mean the command doesn't evaluate unless I do that
no, it still evaluates
but the result is already quoted and you don't have to worry about that anymore
single quotes would cause it to not evaluate
also, fun fact, quotes inside command substitutions are isolated from surrounding quotes outside the substitution
got it
example, this is perfectly valid but discord's syntax highlighter barfs at it:
THING="$(echo "$(echo "thing")")"
nice
what regex does unix use.. is it the same as pcre
asking so I can test online
gentle moss
do you mean grep's regex?
rough sapphire
"unix"?
depends entirely on the tool
grep can do multiple
I'm doing something like this expect "*?assword:*"
got it
note: this is for grep
dunno what expect uses
can probably find out from the man pages
I thought there was one basic regexp and that's standard..
oh my sweet summer child
gentle moss
:D
rough sapphire
I mean I know there was different ones for php, perl, python.. javascript
but in linux environment.. isn't there like just one
Im not really sure that's what I always assumed
gentle moss
:D
rough sapphire
:<
sad puppy
well I finally got my script to work
always a good thing
now to learn how to schedule it as a cron job, so it can run on its own
in the wild.. with all the other little processes
might want to look into systemd timers
oki
gentle moss
systemdeeznutz
rough sapphire
thank you bisk
apparently cron let's us do this
@hourly /absolute/path/to/your/parseScript.sh
some cron daemons let you do that
not all
gentle moss
do the cron proper :(
gentle moss
it's not cryptic
it literally tells you what it is at the top
# m h dom mon dow user command
gentle moss
centos gonna centos
rough sapphire
you know what I learned today
I didn't need to chmod after I renamed a file that already had permissions
gentle moss
okay.
rough sapphire
what.. I didn't know that before.. what a thoughtful feature
gentle moss
file properties, such as permissions, are bound to the file
renaming it doesn't change that
rough sapphire
how is watch different from cron
well
achsully bisk
it's tied to the file's metadata
gentle moss
shut up if you're going into some inode meta data bullshit stuff
rough sapphire
not the file (ie the inodes) itself
gentle moss
bastard.
rough sapphire
0 * * * * /absolute/path/to/your/parseScript.sh
:D
is this right.. for every hour.. I dont get it
rough sapphire
https://crontab.guru is excellent for this
gentle moss
every day of the week
rough sapphire
the website doesnt work
gentle moss
yes it does
quaint rivet
call the hazmat teams
wheat lynx
ticket_count += 7000 Fixed
rough sapphire
7.0 tickets - not great, not terrible
gentle moss
:D
3 decimals of accuracy m8
the problem is those numbers exist as previous tickets
so we're getting duplicate tickets
and you can't reply to the newly created one, since it's actually not that ticket but another ticket.
rough sapphire
what are the tickets for.. can you trade them in for a prize
gentle moss
support tickets. for when people break shit.
rough sapphire
I know bisk :v I was trying to make a funny
gentle moss
well you missed.
rough sapphire
why are you so mean today bisk
gentle moss
technically i can trade tickets in for prizes though
it's called moniz
shit's fucked that's why xx.
don't work for a few days and somehow they managed to break shit and now muggins here is cleaning whatever it is up
rough sapphire
:l
rough sapphire
my rightmost toe
autumn herald
Arent you supposed to stay in a chair all day and only move if you're gonna starve and die
gentle moss
^
and then there's all this corona virus stuff on top of regular IT job stuff
ticketing system did not like rebooting.
it looks like it's re-indexing its entire ticket database o_O
~28,000 tickets to process
~600mb SQLite database
nice.
gentle moss
eh, kinda. restarting the service didn't appear to have any effect so i gave the whole system a reboot.
sometimes that fixes problems with Spiceworks. it's a touchy little shit.
low shadow
hey i need help git pull didnt bring folders as git clone do
git clone only brought .git file
but not the content of repo
how to make content of repo from .git file, it downloaded 1.2 gb but only .git is there
when i uploaded 1.2 gb and checked in github, the files were there
is there any ways to make files from .git file
rough sapphire
mm
rough sapphire
because the full history of the repository is there
but I don't think the current status of the repository is supposed to be empty unless the people tried to delete the repository and don't understand how git works...
but there might be something going on with git modules or something. does somebody else know?
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire did you smash it into a coffee table?
barely missed the coffee table, hit the corner of my sofa instead @rough sapphire
or, like, the "leg"
did you go to hospital or toughing it out at home?
yeah, at home, rather not visit hospitals right now
Lollypop splint?
gentle moss
update: ticket system still broken
why? idk
it's almost as if there's another older instance of the server running
but i can't find the ESXi host. :D
rough sapphire
I saw something mentioning that we could be in sporadic lockdowns until maybe 2020
low shadow
how can i send get request to this ip
2400:1a00:bd10:9ed2:78d5:1ded:b0cc:6705
in port 4444
netcat failed
curl failed
feeling fucked
due to ipv6
gentle moss
you probably need to specify you want to use an IPv6 address
on both netcat and curl
gentle moss
yes, google it.
rough sapphire
is it even a valid ip?
i did a little checking and something like this should work?
curl -6 "http://[ip6addrhere]:porthere"
low shadow
yes its valid
wait
do this nc 2400:1a00:bd10:9ed2:78d5:1ded:b0cc:6705 4444
@rough sapphire
it works . Do it fast so that i can end nc -lvnp 4444 and start php -S 0.0.0.0:4444
and test curl for ipv6
leave it i m exiting nc -lvnp
low shadow
yes
gentle moss
with an open port on 4444
low shadow
yes
gentle moss
that hooks straight into a PHP shell
rough sapphire
you do realise you're on a server with developers
low shadow
yes
gentle moss
you do realise how fucking dangerous that is?
low shadow
yes
gentle moss
fine
we've told you before about dumb things and you never listen
so i'm just going to put it clearly
putting a PHP shell web facing with no authentication
low shadow
yes thats true i never listen
rough sapphire
@low shadow how old are you
gentle moss
then posting that information here
low shadow
16
gentle moss
is fucking dumb
low shadow
how do i curl ipv6
rough sapphire
> whoami
honeypot
\๐คฉ
low shadow
let xx spot it
low shadow
ok 12345 port is open , my ip is good and nc -lvnp 12345 is open, let xx do the job
ok so how to curl ipv6
soft violet
What was the cpu bug that let people break out of VMs? Was it Spectre?
rough sapphire
@low shadow posting your ip address with a php shell is dumber than posting your face with your street address and phone number...
low shadow
wait
eternal sequoia
@soft violet this one?
soft violet
I mean, even if you're sandboxing things, say people made outgoing requests through it. Even in a honeypot situation, that could get not good very quickly. Do you understand what I'm saying?
sand goblet
eg wget -6 http://[fe80::a00:27ff:fe00:80b9]:8080/
soft violet
You could have SWAT come and break down your door and shoot your pets.
low shadow
what it will respond to
will php respond to xmlhttprequest
my main motive was that
to test curl
low shadow
then test xmlhttpreqest
gentle moss
it'll take commands like a shell
low shadow
i know