#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 373

velvet rapids Mar 25, 2020, 9:39 PM

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rough sapphire Mar 25, 2020, 9:43 PM

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oh, it's too new

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try this one

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https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/disco/armhf/chromium-chromedriver/69.0.3497.100-0ubuntu1

69.0.3497.100-0ubuntu1 : chromium-chromedriver : armhf : Disco (19....

Chromedriver serves as a bridge between Chromium Browser and Selenium
WebDriver.
.
See https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/chromedriver/ for details.

velvet rapids Mar 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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oof

rough sapphire Mar 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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should work

velvet rapids Mar 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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How do I uninstall it?

rough sapphire Mar 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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it didn't install

velvet rapids Mar 25, 2020, 9:46 PM

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📎 unknown.png

rough sapphire Mar 25, 2020, 9:47 PM

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wut

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have you actually downloaded the file yet

velvet rapids Mar 25, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Yeah

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📎 unknown.png

rough sapphire Mar 25, 2020, 9:49 PM

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what about dpkg -i ./chromium*

velvet rapids Mar 25, 2020, 9:51 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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I guess that worked

rough sapphire Mar 25, 2020, 9:52 PM

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sure

velvet rapids Mar 25, 2020, 9:53 PM

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works thanks 🙂

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My script works

rough sapphire Mar 25, 2020, 9:53 PM

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np :+1: glad you got it working

limber island Mar 25, 2020, 11:33 PM

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#ot1-perplexing-regexing

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Well

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It is Arch on Termux

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But eh

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Same thing

pearl horizon Mar 25, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Install gentoo

limber island Mar 25, 2020, 11:40 PM

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~~I may actually try it~~

marble sentinel Mar 25, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Stares at raspberry pi B on my desk

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someday...

dense stratus Mar 25, 2020, 11:55 PM

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why do people install gentoo?

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Ooh, that sounded wrong.

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I mean why "specifically" do they install Gentoo, as opposed to any other distro. What is the main draw to Gentoo?

sand goblet Mar 25, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Customisable kernel I suppose

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And some people hate systemd for whatever reason

dense stratus Mar 26, 2020, 12:01 AM

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oh, it has no systemd still

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didn't realize that, thought slackware was the last one without

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:01 AM

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It's an option

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You can have systemd or.. Upstart? I think?

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Or was it rc.d

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I can't remember

dense stratus Mar 26, 2020, 12:03 AM

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okay, been hearing several people mention gentoo the past 4 or 5 days and I hadn't heard much talk about it in so long

void salmon Mar 26, 2020, 12:05 AM

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some people use void because they dislike systemd as well

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:06 AM

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I like systemd

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\o/

dense stratus Mar 26, 2020, 12:06 AM

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I am .... ambivalent 🙂

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I am just not good at system admin. as long as someone else keeps the machines running and the bad guys out... I can make magic

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:12 AM

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I'm meh on it

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Would prefer it with some changes lets say

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:13 AM

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I've tried various linux distro's over the years, but haven't stuck with one for more than a few months

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I like Mint tho

chilly sinew Mar 26, 2020, 12:13 AM

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I've been using Ubuntu for ~6 months now

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:14 AM

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I just stick to ubuntu

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Works nicely on desktop and servers, no need to change

chilly sinew Mar 26, 2020, 12:14 AM

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I kept windows on my desktop

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but ubuntu laptop is great

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:14 AM

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I have windows + ubuntu vm on desktop

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And full ubuntu on laptop

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Funny, I installed Ubuntu on a USB stick recently and it messed with the windows bootloader on my desktop

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Best option for on-the-go imo

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Unless you're that person with the 24" £1.5k gaming laptop

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Ubuntu VM for daily linux stuff on desktop sounds nice

chilly sinew Mar 26, 2020, 12:15 AM

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lmao

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:15 AM

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That's... a big laptop

chilly sinew Mar 26, 2020, 12:15 AM

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I just use my laptop for most stuff

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Although I have to use windows for my work atm

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Seeming as there is no support for asp.net and iis in linux

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:15 AM

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I like the linux CLI commands better than cmd.exe's

chilly sinew Mar 26, 2020, 12:16 AM

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everybody does

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:16 AM

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So I use CMDer on windows

chilly sinew Mar 26, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Nobody thinks DOS > Bash

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Haha. Glad I'm not alone then :p

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Some sysadmins thing ps > bash though

dense stratus Mar 26, 2020, 12:16 AM

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why not just use bash on windows

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:16 AM

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I don't see it

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:16 AM

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bash on windows is a thing? 😮

chilly sinew Mar 26, 2020, 12:16 AM

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There's a bash terminal you can get

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:16 AM

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That's WSL

chilly sinew Mar 26, 2020, 12:16 AM

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git bash

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Not really a fully-fledged shell though

chilly sinew Mar 26, 2020, 12:17 AM

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ye

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Good enuff tho

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Eh yeah

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Aah, right. I think I did have git bash installed on a previous installation of win10 but had to reformat for some reason

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Powershell is just.. annoying for me

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Better than basic dos cmd.exe

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But if you're going bash-like, just make basically a ported bash

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Not change 20% of the commands to make it more windows-ey

dense stratus Mar 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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WSL or Msys, or better yet Cygwin64

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win git

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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I think making the commands more windows-y is for the people that don't use bash, but if they used bash, they would like it anyways

dense stratus Mar 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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they all come with a bash

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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I use clink on windows

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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I will check all of those out rn, tyvm 🙂

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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It adds readline and some bash features to cmd

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Unfortunatly none of them really give nice native feel and speed

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Clink does feel native

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But it really is literally cmd with more stuff

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:20 AM

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So it's a cmd.exe shell

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:21 AM

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It's cmd but with stuff like saved command history, prefix history search, etc

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It's basically QoL

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:21 AM

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prefix history search is a godsend

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Wait is it a full bash or just cmd.exe with what zsh is to bash

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:21 AM

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It's literally cmd.exe with extra stuff

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Oh

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Not the emulator

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The shell itself

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Ik

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:22 AM

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http://mridgers.github.io/clink/

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:22 AM

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I'm just wanting powershell to be a bash windows rewrite tbh

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:23 AM

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cygwin64 looks right up my alley

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:23 AM

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cygwin64 sounds good but have heard some issues with it in use

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Cygwin is more of a pain in the ass than you might think it is

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And it's mostly useless anyway now we have WSL

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:24 AM

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I'll just stick to my vm

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:25 AM

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WSL sounds like it's more intended to give Linux installations more Windows-ish commands

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From what I know about it, which is little

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:25 AM

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No, it's the other way around

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Ah. That seems very, very useful then

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:25 AM

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You're installing a Linux distro, a real one, under a compatibility layer within windows

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You type bash in a terminal

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And suddenly Linux

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Oh, that makes total sense

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That is very, very cool

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:26 AM

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It's actually really well done

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Basically an integrated vm

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:26 AM

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WSL 1 is not a VM

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Mhm

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:26 AM

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WSL2 is but it's not out yet

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Don't most use WSL2 anyway

void salmon Mar 26, 2020, 12:27 AM

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git bash i kinda fun i guess? linux terminals are just more comfy in general

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:27 AM

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I mean git is essential to have installed natively anyway

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But you don't have to actually use git bash

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And you probably shouldn't, it's not very good

limber island Mar 26, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Heya, does anyone know any faster alternatives to https://github.com/busyloop/lolcat ?

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marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:28 AM

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I've used git bash like once, but it was fun. Or at least friendly to users used to CLI stuff. I was not one of those people at the time, lol.

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Git bash has a lot of quirks and oddities

void salmon Mar 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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why would you need faster lolcat 🤔

limber island Mar 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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It doesn't work will with ArchOnTermux eheheh

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

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You don't notice them if you're just using git

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But if for example you tried to use the SSH executable for.. Well, SSH

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If you wanted to use something like screen or tmux then all kinds of weird things can happen

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(for example)

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It just wasn't designed for anything but git

void salmon Mar 26, 2020, 12:30 AM

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i've never ssh'ed into something before

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maybe i'll set that up for my phone? just haven't seen the need

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Servers mostly

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:31 AM

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It was useful to SSH into the headless rPi on my desk, when I had it set up and running.

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Yup, that too

marble sentinel Mar 26, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Mainly used it for games, as in emulators. Was easy to open a cmd window and SSH to it to add ROMs.

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 1:51 AM

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so... basically, I just want to find out which programming language is right for me. I feel like there's a language I might naturally like because it would match to my personality or something, or who knows. I've tried Python, I know everyone says python is the best. But it just doesn't 'click' with me.I just got bored easily. I'm prolly making no sense rn. Should I try and learn something else? Is there anything you guys suggest? I'm not sure. Also I'm new on discord so if I do something wrong just let me know

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 1:56 AM

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What kinda thing you looking for?

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@rough sapphire

worn rampart Mar 26, 2020, 2:10 AM

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@rough sapphire what sort of things are you trying to make?

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and what have you done so far?

pine vector Mar 26, 2020, 3:34 AM

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a bootloader, like GRUB.

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careful... the Windows bootloader is stingy. 😄

terse sluice Mar 26, 2020, 3:38 AM

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have you disabled secureboot and and changed your boot order in bios?

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 5:52 AM

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@sand goblet I use git bash all the time with no issues

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it's literally just msys2 with a different name slapped on

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 9:53 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20200326-115133-01.jpeg

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📎 rAFP13z_-_Imgur.gif

solid pollen Mar 26, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Really? I thought they were used internally

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 9:54 AM

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and here I thought this was common knowledge

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but here we are

edgy magnet Mar 26, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Ah I still have my floopy Windows installation 5/980123

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 9:55 AM

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I knew that too!

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Okay SwiftKey

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We need to talk

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 9:55 AM

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mc-mods

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 9:56 AM

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mc-mods is not an exclamation point

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Man I wish SwiftKey wasn't simultaneously the best and the worst keyboard I can find

solid pollen Mar 26, 2020, 9:57 AM

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I quite like it, but I prefer the default keyboard on iOS

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 9:57 AM

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I don't like the iOS keyboard but that's okay, I'm not on iOS

solid pollen Mar 26, 2020, 9:58 AM

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I actually just like the sweepdown feature

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But i think it is a really good design

gentle moss Mar 26, 2020, 9:58 AM

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oh god

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are the yoof getting uppity again?

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 10:02 AM

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wow, someone 3d printed the save icon

📎 floppy-disk-13688257.jpg

gentle moss Mar 26, 2020, 10:06 AM

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i've got an 8" floppy for you

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let me slip it in

wanton glacier Mar 26, 2020, 10:06 AM

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owo

gentle moss Mar 26, 2020, 10:06 AM

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📎 Floppy-disc.png

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 10:20 AM

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me thumb hurts :<

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too much programming

solid pollen Mar 26, 2020, 10:33 AM

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What is the chance that this command work git clone git@github.com:EpicGames/UnrealEngine.git && cd UnrealEngine && git checkout release && patch Engine/Build/BatchFiles/Linux/SetupMono.sh /tmp/unreal-engine/use-arch-mono.patch && ./Setup.sh && ./GenerateProjectFiles.sh && make haha

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F*** the patch command is missing the ./

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It isn't looking very good

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 11:39 AM

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wrote 300 line of code just to scrape it in the end ;-;

dense stratus Mar 26, 2020, 11:45 AM

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that's good.. Throwing away code is a good thing. People are too "precious" about code just because "I've already typed it in" Think of it like solving a maze, once you hit a dead end, you have to back up and go a different way, forget those steps you took in that specific direction

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And now you know which 300 lines of code aren't the solution.

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 11:47 AM

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@dense stratus you solve mazes by going back to the very beginning?

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oh right, you mean backtrack just enough

dense stratus Mar 26, 2020, 11:47 AM

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no, did I say that? I said you go backwards.

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 11:47 AM

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I don't know. my mind read that wrong

dense stratus Mar 26, 2020, 11:47 AM

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Just because you went 300 steps in the wrong direction, doesn't mean you need to preserve those steps

dense stratus Mar 26, 2020, 12:11 PM

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It is one of the nice things about doing TDD kata. You kind of get used to tossing code away.

gentle moss Mar 26, 2020, 12:13 PM

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woah

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britney is a commie

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📎 unknown.png

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trying to think of a pun but i'm drawing blanks

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 12:22 PM

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hey bisk

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you speak English right.. could you pop over to #career-advice for a sec

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(by which I mean you're a native speaker)

solid pollen Mar 26, 2020, 12:43 PM

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\o/ UE4 built from source in 2h15

solid pollen Mar 26, 2020, 2:58 PM

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RealPython gave away 5 video course for free to all users subscribed to their newletter

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That's cool

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Nifty

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How is their paid stuff?

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I've only read their free articles

solid pollen Mar 26, 2020, 3:02 PM

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They have video course and stuff

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They gave anyway the pytricks book for free for christmas too

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Oh cool. I aspire to be able to explain stuff as clearly as they do

solid pollen Mar 26, 2020, 3:04 PM

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You are pretty close tbh lemon_pleased

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 3:05 PM

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I fumble over topics I'm just understanding, though.

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I want to get better about that

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Sure I've got some of them down with the examples I have but other things I tend to just make up terms or refer to stuff as "the list thingy"

solid pollen Mar 26, 2020, 3:27 PM

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I like how one process is using 201% of my CPU right now haha

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 3:28 PM

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100% is one core on Linux

solid pollen Mar 26, 2020, 3:31 PM

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You break all the fun

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I'm surprized that one process can use two cpus though

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Hmn, a process can have multiple threads

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Don't worry, I just need to think

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 3:47 PM

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if you want to get technical, threads are a type of process

solid pollen Mar 26, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Oh interesting

velvet rapids Mar 26, 2020, 3:50 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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Any ideas? Selenium shooting this error

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I get the error on my rpi but not my computer

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 4:05 PM

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What's the site? Is there no API to use?

velvet rapids Mar 26, 2020, 4:06 PM

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I think the problem is I need to click on a textbox to type in it

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Welp that didnt work

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 4:52 PM

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I mean what are you even trying to do on it?

solid pollen Mar 26, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I learned today how to create C++ functions for UE4 and then access those in form of nodes inside the visual scripting interface

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It felt like black magic

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 6:48 PM

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rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 6:56 PM

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how in the fuck do i make friends as an adult

compact glacier Mar 26, 2020, 7:00 PM

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no idea

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 7:01 PM

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https://www.wikihow.com/Make-Friends wikihow is always here to help you

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https://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671027034 this book looks good, but i haven't read it

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 7:05 PM

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@rough sapphire If you figure it out let me know

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The best I have is you guys on here

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 7:06 PM

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same.

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Okay, can explain something to me? I'm trying to wrap my head around why so many programs went from normal number versioning to using the current year as the major update number

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Like Ubuntu?

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You can at a glance get an idea of how old a release is, I imagine.

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You can see that 16.04 for example is nearly 4 years old

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Sure, except that that some get updated even within the next year but don't change the major version number

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 8:23 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Like I get it if you're updating your stuff like clockwork, but if not then it just feels pointless and clutters up the versioning

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Oh sure. I remember when Firefox didn't follow Chrome's release cycle as well

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So now it's just 70~ whatever rather than the slow versioning they were doing before

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Just seems stupid

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Only update the major number when you have a major change

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 8:25 PM

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That's how it should be, but idk

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I am a fan of semver too but you can use the year

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Jetbrains does it as well, and we're still on IDEA 2019.9

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But we'll get 2020.3 soonish

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 8:26 PM

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I just hate it

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 8:26 PM

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It's just a bit more user friendly than an arbitrary number

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Sure it gives you a general guess as to when it was last updated, but so does a date stamp

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Which no one will check

sand goblet Mar 26, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Well yeah, but users aren't always programmers

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 8:28 PM

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I mean you say that but I still have to explain that to some of my coworkers when their program still says 2019 well into 2020

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"Okay so it KIND of means the year but not really"

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End of Hemlock McGrumpy rant

opaque anchor Mar 26, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I'm planning to work on an esolang

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Here are my core principles

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Everything is an expression

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Objects are anonymous

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Full Evaluation Control

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Plenty of new Convenient Syntax

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Full Scope Control

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Ok

signal bronze Mar 26, 2020, 8:53 PM

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hello

plucky ridge Mar 26, 2020, 8:56 PM

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@ashen dome Nah it's pretty sublte

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Easy to miss

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The icon animation gets changed periodically

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 9:36 PM

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rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 9:45 PM

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burp recently changed to the [year].[month].[version] system recently which caught me a bit off guard

undone berry Mar 26, 2020, 9:46 PM

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What is the advantage of that system?

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Isn't it obvious?

undone berry Mar 26, 2020, 9:46 PM

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The normal way seems much easier

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 9:46 PM

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You know the date of the release and easier to remember

undone berry Mar 26, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I don't see any major benefit in linking the date to the version though

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I'd rather have 2019.7.312 then 342.734.312r

undone berry Mar 26, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I'd prefer the latter

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Dates are easier for us to remember and we can easily compare releases

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 9:47 PM

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it makes it much less clear when there's been a big (and potentially compability-breaking) update though

primal spruce Mar 26, 2020, 9:48 PM

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one good argument for the latter is that it's much easier to see what comes after

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Ususally they come once a year

primal spruce Mar 26, 2020, 9:48 PM

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like, bigger number, newer. hurr durr. simple.

undone berry Mar 26, 2020, 9:49 PM

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The default versioning system is very clear. Linking it to date doesn't seem to provide any intrinsic benefit

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 9:49 PM

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And for a regular release user-ended product for what that system is meant for, always a ton of breaking changes so having another number at the beginning doesn't matter (going from 42 to 43)

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And easier to market

undone berry Mar 26, 2020, 9:50 PM

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I don't think its easier to market

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I think versions 1,2,3 etc are just as clear

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as 2018, 2019, 2020

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 9:51 PM

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2020-02 makes it seem newer then "woah 43.2341.1r is out!"

undone berry Mar 26, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Its more like "Wow, version 4.4 is out"

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which is pretty understandable

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Less marketable

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As I say

rough sapphire Mar 26, 2020, 9:51 PM

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"oh, no, that doesn't run on python 2017.03.2, you need python 2020.06.3"

undone berry Mar 26, 2020, 9:51 PM

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I don't think it is

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I don't see any marketability benefit

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Both can be marketed well, both can be marketed poorly

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 10:25 PM

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To a consumer unfamiliar to a product, "Wow, version 4.4 is out" means squat

undone berry Mar 26, 2020, 10:25 PM

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no it doesn't

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I don't know why you think

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people can't comprehend

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bigger number means better

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its pretty simple

pearl horizon Mar 26, 2020, 10:57 PM

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== 16 passed in 8.96s ==

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This makes me very happy

vestal briar Mar 26, 2020, 11:00 PM

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??

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If a user doesnt know what number it was on before

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"Wow, version 4.4 is out" doesn't mean anything

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But if you hear "Wow, version 2020.03 is out" you know it's recent and can gather more context

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It's made for marketing, that's why blurpsuite and unity used it

pearl horizon Mar 27, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Oh, you're right

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There were 3 tests failing when I came home from work. Leftovers from last night. Got two properly fixed. Am working on one now that is still having intermittent failures

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And all of this is still an improvement from 0 tests a couple days ago

lost radish Mar 27, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Quick bash question. How do I say "rest of the arguments except for the first one"?

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like $* -= $1

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$2onwards

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$2+ $2* I feel like I'm close

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I should have googled it first. My bad.

shift
stuff "$@"```

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ok

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What am I doing wrong?

📎 unknown.png

#

ah

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wonder if its arg 0 that was shifted

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ah

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the package command is overriding my bin file command

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bummer

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ha

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stupid

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In case anyone else gets stuck with multiple python installations, and pip doesn't reflect the newest one

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rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 7:01 AM

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bummer
@lost radish if your pip appears in $PATH before the "real one", yours will be always used instead

lost radish Mar 27, 2020, 7:02 AM

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it must not have then

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I opted to just start taking the time and typing it out

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less lazy, more (sorry, got lazy. todo: finish)

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 7:06 AM

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haha

lost radish Mar 27, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Gotta love when you condense more than a screen full of code into a handful of lines

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 10:16 AM

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Man birthdays during this quarantine stuff is boring. The Reddit posts were right

bleak lintel Mar 27, 2020, 10:26 AM

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is it your birthday flops is it your birthday flops is it your birthday flops

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happy birthday!!!!!!!!!

gentle moss Mar 27, 2020, 10:29 AM

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we should give him birthday flops

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https://tenor.com/view/realizes-its-no-nut-november-flop-mud-gif-15503679

Tenor

bleak lintel Mar 27, 2020, 10:30 AM

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interesting URL egg_eyebrow_raised

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lol

gentle moss Mar 27, 2020, 10:34 AM

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rofl

stark prawn Mar 27, 2020, 10:35 AM

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🥳

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 10:35 AM

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📎 cX-shiZQUhzFDjCmH2F-BVnB1fX-qmZB8QrJyrx7DVs-source.mp4

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 10:39 AM

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yes

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yes yes yes yes yes @bleak lintel

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Thank you guys 🤗

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 10:39 AM

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merry birfamus dingus

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 10:43 AM

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What a day to be locked down to writing migration sql

solid pollen Mar 27, 2020, 10:54 AM

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Happy ~~sql migrations~~ birthday! lemon_pika

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 10:58 AM

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happy birthday 🥳

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 11:12 AM

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happy birthday 🍰

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 11:20 AM

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🎂

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Can the weekend just start already

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 11:27 AM

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assuming you're working from home it can. Just set up some janky chatbot to reply on slack/whatever for you for the rest of the day

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voila

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 11:45 AM

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Nah, gotta finish the one task i was given first

vestal briar Mar 27, 2020, 1:01 PM

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I swear I thought this was a achey-breakey-heart remix

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pine vector Mar 27, 2020, 1:40 PM

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hbd Floppy. its been a while since we had it land on a weekend...and this is what we get? 🎉

urban night Mar 27, 2020, 4:00 PM

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📎 IMG_20200327_205227.jpg

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What is this game

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Anybody know

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Not much to go on

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Square shaped darts?

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 4:06 PM

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You put reversi pieces on it

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I forget what it's called though

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 4:06 PM

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My second guess was going to be a board for axe throwing

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 4:06 PM

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you put them where the lines junction/corner

sinful copper Mar 27, 2020, 4:07 PM

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google image search thinks it's a blueprint for a roof

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 4:08 PM

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And this is why I'm not super concerned about machines taking over the world quite yet

gentle moss Mar 27, 2020, 4:12 PM

#

you see that recent proof of concept some university smart people did?

#

the way some ML packages downscale images means you could have a picture of a cat 4x the size of the allowed input with a dog hidden in the pixels

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on the downscale the picture of a cat, becomes a picture of a dog

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so you can poison the data

silk geode Mar 27, 2020, 4:17 PM

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@urban night it looks kinda like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morabaraba

Morabaraba

Morabaraba is a traditional two-player strategy board game played in South Africa and Botswana with a slightly different variation played in Lesotho. The game is known by many names in many languages, including mlabalaba, mmela (in Setswana), muravava, and umlabalaba. The game...

sinful copper Mar 27, 2020, 4:21 PM

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doesn't sound like it uses reversi tiles [well, like, you could, but from the article there's no move where you replace one color directly with the other, so no reason to]

gentle moss Mar 27, 2020, 4:24 PM

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There are three main phases to the game:

Placing the cows
Moving the cows
Flying the cows

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sign me the fuck up

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If a player forms a mill, he or she may remove or "shoot" one of the opponent's cows

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get to shoot em too

#

the rules are quite simple actually

#

cool

#

it's very fast paced

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tjtTMyeF8M

YouTube

JSL-TV

Morabaraba Kwazulu Natal vs Western Cape @ National Indigenous Gam...

▶ Play video

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general sort of rule is if you get 3 in a row you can then pew pew theirs and the game ends when they either have less than 2 cows left or i guess can't form a block of 3

#

it's hard to tell what colours what in that one

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 4:46 PM

#

I'm in love with both extremes of programming abstraction I guess. I love both python and assembly, but hate pretty much everything in between. Can anyone relate?

pearl horizon Mar 27, 2020, 5:29 PM

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I know what you mean. Loved assembly, but have a very hard time without a CS background. I spent a good bit of time last summer learning some basic 64bit Linux assembly.

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@pine vector Yours is today as well?

pearl horizon Mar 27, 2020, 5:30 PM

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For the in-between cases, I always find myself going towards one extreme or the other. Why make in Rust, what can be done in C. Or why write a bash script when python will work just as well, and be easier to implement

pine vector Mar 27, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Tis indeed.

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 5:31 PM

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happy birthday to you as well

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Happy birthday birthday sharing guy!

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To think that was a possibility.

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I thought I owned this day

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:32 PM

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That's what the court document claimed, anyway

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 5:33 PM

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There's the whole how many people in a room til your birthday clashes paradox thing

pine vector Mar 27, 2020, 5:33 PM

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I abdicated my ownership when you came about... 😉

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Are you assuming my age?

pine vector Mar 27, 2020, 5:34 PM

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well, yes. at least that its a smaller number than mine.

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I am rightfully offended on a sarcastic level!

pine vector Mar 27, 2020, 5:34 PM

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hehe

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:34 PM

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You probably are, if you claim it's a high probability :P

#

I'm 24

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:35 PM

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24 really?

pine vector Mar 27, 2020, 5:35 PM

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yeah...i was driving.

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Yea?

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:36 PM

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wow, is that old or young for here?

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:36 PM

#

øøøøøh

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Average

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Ish

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:36 PM

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I suppose yeah

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Actually we probably average out to late teens early twenties

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Fair share of all ages tbh

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:37 PM

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But we have some old fogies around here that bend the curve a little

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 5:37 PM

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you should do a survey

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to get an idea

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not just for age

#

but for other stuff

pine vector Mar 27, 2020, 5:37 PM

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i'd expect mean. average is prob 20's.

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:37 PM

#

seems in the evenings I run in to a lot of 2nd and 3rd year HS kids and only occasional a 1st or 2nd uni

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:37 PM

#

Median is likely lower

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:38 PM

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well you can only go so low, right, have to be 13+ to be here?

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:38 PM

#

Supposed to be yeah

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:38 PM

#

There's probably a few below

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:38 PM

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But we don't do shakedowns to find out

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Hiding in the shadows

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:38 PM

#

Whats the single whitespace thing in python? \r?

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:38 PM

#

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-smoke-bomb-gif-9219041

Tenor

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:39 PM

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well in that case I am also 24

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:39 PM

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If they slip up and let us know they are, then our policy is to just temp ban until they would be the right age

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 5:39 PM

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I imagine the median age is somewhere in the 16-20 range

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Yep, that's my guess

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 5:39 PM

#

there seems to be a lot of youngish people

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:39 PM

#

||with 31 years experience||

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Yeah you've been doing this 24 year old thing for quite a while, Abs

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:39 PM

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You tempban them until they're 13?

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:39 PM

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You're pretty good at it

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:39 PM

#

Hey guys, is anyone born in 2007 or later? I have a special secret for you :))

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Yeah, we have in the past, Merc

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:40 PM

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You bet!

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Oh Discord TOS is above 13

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I even have a picture around that age that I used for at least 15 years as an avatar

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Right

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Oh, right - https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/463035241142026251/693152031967412255

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:40 PM

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HA

#

Single white space?

#

Like

#

A space?

#

Or

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Is there a character for that?

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Yeah like

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

#

' '

#

Literally just a space

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

#

Yeah that ^

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

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well it's most websites, if you have kids under 13 you have to do special things

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Can't say ive used it if there is

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

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No I'm saying it's literally a space

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

#

There's no like \r and stuff?

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

#

%20

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

#

\r is cursor reset afaik

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Okay

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

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There might be but there's no reason not to just use a space

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Yeah, idk why I didnt just use a space

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:41 PM

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You're over thinking it

#

It happens

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:42 PM

#

I just remembered my groceries are thawing in the kitchen..

#

brb

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:42 PM

#

Why is this check returning False 😭

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:42 PM

#

https://tenor.com/ziDY.gif @glass gorge

Tenor

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:42 PM

#

\space

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:42 PM

#

    @staticmethod
    def ascii_checks(words):
        print(words)
        printable = """abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789?' """

        if isinstance(words, str):
            if words.__len__() == 0:
                return False
            if not words:
                return False

            for letter in words:
                if letter not in printable:
                    return False
            return True

        elif isinstance(words, list):
            print(words)
            for word in words:
                if isinstance(word, str):
                    if words.__len__() == 0:
                        return False
                    if not words:
                        return False

                    for letter in words:
                        if letter not in printable:
                            return False
                    return True
                else:
                    raise Exception(TypeError)

            return True
        else:
            raise Exception(TypeError)

#

It returns false 😦

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 5:42 PM

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possibly the best character in the best show @plucky ridge

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:42 PM

#

Okay at that size it might be better if you use the hastebin

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:42 PM

#

for this input

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plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:42 PM

#

For sure

#

That man is amazing

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:42 PM

#

https://python.pastebin.com

#

whats the thing

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 5:43 PM

#

although - I guess he was partly responsible for cabbage corp

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 5:43 PM

#

@velvet rapids Why not just use https://docs.python.org/3/library/string.html#string.printable ?

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I don't want punctuation

#

Just a few of them

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:43 PM

#

Was he? I thought he was just a scapegoat

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 5:43 PM

#

oh wait

#

yeah

#

cabbage corp were actually good

#

damn

#

or neutral I guess - no corp can be truly good

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:44 PM

#

Yeah he got unfairly shafted constantly

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:44 PM

#

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/gacugolice.py

#

Here

#

This is the input, and it returns False

📎 unknown.png

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:44 PM

#

\N{SPACE}

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 5:45 PM

#

What should it do on spaces, split?

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:45 PM

#

Nothing

#

it should allow spaces

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 5:45 PM

#

'allow'?

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:45 PM

#

There is a space in the end of printable

#

So shouldn't cause any issues

#

if letter not in printable:

#

So it should allow

#

Because it is in printable

#

oh lmao

#

oops

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:47 PM

#

@plucky ridge No cabbages, but saladheads!

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 5:47 PM

#

I think you're checking if the full string is in it

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:47 PM

#

Yeah

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 5:47 PM

#

Rather than iterating through the letters

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:47 PM

#

Not the letters

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:48 PM

#

if words.__len__() == 0: just do if not words

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:48 PM

#

those are not strings, those are a list of strings

lime bison Mar 27, 2020, 5:48 PM

#

Just throw a breakpoint and see where it returns @velvet rapids

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:48 PM

#

or to be explicit if len(words) == 0

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:48 PM

#

Actually wait, I am checking letters

#

                    for letter in words:
                        if letter not in printable:
                            return False

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:48 PM

#

but you pasted lists of strings

#

not strings

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:48 PM

#

Nevermind yeah, need to make it word

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:49 PM

#

["hello", "there"] is not a string

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:49 PM

#

- for letter in words:
+ for letter in word:```

#

Yeah, i guess that's what you figured out

solid pollen Mar 27, 2020, 5:49 PM

#

Truthiness testing (the thing that decides for an implicit if conversion) fallbacks on __len__ if __bool__ isn't defined anyway

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 5:49 PM

#

errr

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:49 PM

#

either test each element in the list, or join them together before passing them in

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 5:49 PM

#

sec

solid pollen Mar 27, 2020, 5:49 PM

#

_Quick, edit! _

#

Oh well

#

There is support for edited messages now

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:50 PM

#

Done, thanks 🙂

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:50 PM

#

it works?

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 5:50 PM

#

!e

printable = """abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789?' """
a = ['somebody', 'once', 'told', 'me']
for each in a:
    for each2 in each:
        if each2 in printable:
            print(each2)

royal lakeBOT Mar 27, 2020, 5:50 PM

#

@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | s
002 | o
003 | m
004 | e
005 | b
006 | o
007 | d
008 | y
009 | o
010 | n
011 | c
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/omuluxujus

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 5:50 PM

#

👍 Ha-za!

#

that the world is gonna end...

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:50 PM

#

solid pollen Mar 27, 2020, 5:50 PM

#

Edited message can be re-evaluated using a little emoji that appears yep

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:51 PM

#

Works, yeah

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 5:51 PM

#

" Somebody once told me the world is gonna roll me"

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:51 PM

#

@royal lake eval is super cool

royal lakeBOT Mar 27, 2020, 5:51 PM

#

Sorry, but you may only use this command within #bot-commands.

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:51 PM

#

I'm jealous

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 5:52 PM

#

I aint the sharpest tool in the shed

solid pollen Mar 27, 2020, 5:52 PM

#

Why do you need to be jealous? Get your own python! https://github.com/python-discord/bot

GitHub

python-discord/bot

The community bot for the Python Discord community - python-discord/bot

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:52 PM

#

Lol

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:52 PM

#

yeah, I think you have to be yellow or something to call eval in channel

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:52 PM

#

Oh right, I have got go dump some white mice into the server to feed @royal lake

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:52 PM

#

Not in a million years am I going to be able to run that myself

plucky ridge Mar 27, 2020, 5:52 PM

#

She's getting hungry

solid pollen Mar 27, 2020, 5:52 PM

#

Or purple

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 5:53 PM

#

blurple

#

lunchhhh

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:53 PM

#

I am guessing the red,orange, and burnt umber get to use it too 🙂

solid pollen Mar 27, 2020, 5:53 PM

#

One of the color inside that little happy gradient

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:53 PM

#

burnt sienna ... baby stuff

#

well you can always run a REPL and type stuff there.. 🙂

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 5:54 PM

#

I should be able to use my newly bought bright colour to eval

#

thats what capitalism has taught me

#

money should give me all the powers imaginable

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:55 PM

#

That is an honorific not a status 🙂

#

there is a huge list of users to the right, I can't imagine being able to use it effectively for anything. And not sure now that I have scrolled it down, I can get it back up easily

#

ahhh close and open it.

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 5:59 PM

#

discord is something of a usability nightmare

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:59 PM

#

no worse than reddit

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 5:59 PM

#

!internal

#

📎 unknown.png

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 5:59 PM

#

at least I can type code in here the first time

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:00 PM

#

ooh cool things are hidden in @royal lake

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:00 PM

#

discord isn't too bad I don't think

#

messages are very easy to search

#

unlike reddit posts

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:01 PM

#

so that's a graphic not text, it would be amazingly annoying to try to do that for me. How do so many people constantly paste screen shots?

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:01 PM

#

snipping tool+paste

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:01 PM

#

we have softwares

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:01 PM

#

What OS are you on Absinthe?

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:01 PM

#

I use flameshot on arch
or lightshot on windows

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:01 PM

#

I am in Linux

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:01 PM

#

use flameshot

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:01 PM

#

which distro?

#

you don't need other software

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:01 PM

#

Debian Buster

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:02 PM

#

you can ctrl+v images into discord

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:02 PM

#

most have something built in

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:02 PM

#

from the clipboard

#

every distro have something built in

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:02 PM

#

something like ctrl+prtscr should let you crop a region

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:02 PM

#

but not all have a cool one

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:02 PM

#

and then just paste it with ctrl+v

#

maybe shift or alt

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:02 PM

#

I constantly take screen shots on my machine, just not on purpose

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:02 PM

#

or some other combination

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:02 PM

#

deepin have ctrl + alt + a for cropping

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:02 PM

#

there is some key that makes a camera noise and flashes the screen and ultimately saves a file somewhere

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:03 PM

#

print screen it is

#

📎 unknown.png

#

took a whole three buttons to press or something

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:03 PM

#

goddammit I hate that blue colour

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:03 PM

#

why ?

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:03 PM

#

its just dumb

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:03 PM

#

role color ?

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:03 PM

#

my blue

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:04 PM

#

How come

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:04 PM

#

whatever all the shortcuts can be found in keyboard/shortcuts

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:05 PM

#

yeah I hit prtscrn and it flashed and now I have a new file in ~/Pictures called something stupid 'Screenshot from 2020-03-27 14-03-19.png'

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:05 PM

#

screenshotting a region is much better than screenshotting the entire desktop. I pretty much only ever want to grab a region

#

it should also be in your clipboard

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you can ctrl+v and discord witll bring up a dialogue

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:06 PM

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yeah it do same that if i press print screen

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:07 PM

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nope didn't put it in my paste buffer

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:08 PM

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right

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time to throw debian out the window

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:08 PM

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windows > linux confirmed

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:10 PM

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yep, not in the paste buffer, but I have a directory filled with Pictures

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 6:10 PM

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thats not at all useful tho

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:10 PM

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On that topic windows+v hotkey is nice

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:10 PM

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what's that do?

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:10 PM

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winder's v

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Keeps track of previous pastes

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:12 PM

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yeah, I have something like that somewhere.. 🙂 On work machine (KDE) I run gnome at home

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Wonder how many it actually keeps track of

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:13 PM

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I can drag and drop

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glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:13 PM

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That's spoopy

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:13 PM

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IKR ... my wife would not let me buy it

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:13 PM

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aww

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Man i just can't get frozen pizza right

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grumpchib

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:15 PM

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you need to heat it up

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:15 PM

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It's always watery

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:15 PM

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do you use a stone?

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Nope

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:15 PM

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might be your problem, no place for the water to go

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do you use a tray or open rail shelf

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Open rails

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:16 PM

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rack,... words are hard

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:16 PM

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with baking paper under

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:16 PM

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again, no place for the water to go

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we have a stome and a round tray that has a bunch of holes in it

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:17 PM

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But it's supposed to evaporate & and theres a vent hole?

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:17 PM

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this was sh-prt-scr

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sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:18 PM

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don't use a stone for frozen pizza

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that's how you wreck your stone

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but yeah, use a tray with holes in it

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or place it directly on the shelf if it's clean

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:18 PM

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never take the stone out of the oven

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but frozen goes on the holey thing

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:19 PM

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???

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sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:19 PM

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📎 515UZtescCL.png

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:19 PM

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That's athing people have?

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:19 PM

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yup

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Can't say ive ever seen one

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:19 PM

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we have two

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:20 PM

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where do you put that

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:20 PM

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in the oven

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/KitchenCraft-MasterClass-Stick-Pizza-Crisper/dp/B0001IX3NC

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this one costs about £9

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:20 PM

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on top of what

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:20 PM

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the shelf

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:20 PM

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what shelf

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:20 PM

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in the oven?

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I use these 🤔

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rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:20 PM

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that looks more familiar

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:20 PM

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like this but smaller holes

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sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:21 PM

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yeah that's an oven shelf floppy

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:21 PM

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okay so you put it on top of that thing

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and that's somehow better?

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:21 PM

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have you used an oven before, world?

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Oh, well i put my pizza directly on those

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with bakin paper

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:21 PM

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yes, but the paper means the water can't escape

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:21 PM

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like parchment paper?

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:21 PM

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well yeah but I don't see why that would make it better

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:21 PM

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well it means your pizza doesn't get covered in whatever crap is stuck to the shelf

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Buuut wont the bottom of my oven get all greasy and yucky then?

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:22 PM

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It shouldn't actually leak into the oven

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:22 PM

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you can toss a handful of grits or cream of wheat on top of the paper first

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:22 PM

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if you wanna take the complicated route, yeah I guess

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:22 PM

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I am so confused, why is this a thing that nobody has ever told be before

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:22 PM

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That's what they make over cleaner for ... shoot, I have a self cleaning oven. No biggie

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Who have you asked?

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:23 PM

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because it's a waste of metal?

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Nobody, like directly

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:23 PM

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This kind of information is on a need to know, don't ask don't tell basis

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:23 PM

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just went by what I've seen everyone use

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I'm trying to source you one on murrican amazon

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and I just

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anyway here https://www.amazon.com/Pack-Pizza-Pans-holes-inch/dp/B00WVFM8OI/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=pizza+crisper&qid=1585333392&sr=8-6

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:23 PM

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dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:24 PM

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@sand goblet so what does frozen pizza do to hurt a stone?

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:24 PM

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stones absorb moisture

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:24 PM

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So shelft | pan | pizza?

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:24 PM

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you'll make it crack eventually

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yeah just use it like you would any other oven tray

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:24 PM

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imma start out with not using parchment paper i think

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I just recently started using that 😅

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:24 PM

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that'll help, but bear in mind

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you need to make sure the pizza is supported properly by the shelf

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:25 PM

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then I will throw it away and get a new one.. I can't remembner how long the other one lasted, but I am pretty sure we had a dog and it died in that period

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:25 PM

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or it'll collapse in the middle

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Oh right

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ive seen a few pizzas just melt through the shelft

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WHY DO I KEEP WRITING SHELFT

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:25 PM

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yeah that's basically what I mean

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haha

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we used to have a stone as well absinthe

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:26 PM

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because you are used to typing leFT and bereFT and soFT and loFT

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:26 PM

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but there's no point unless you're actually baking

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Well, I'll toss a normal tray under the shelf the first time, just in case

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:26 PM

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safety first

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:26 PM

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if all goes to shits ill look into one of these pans

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:26 PM

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that link there is two for £14

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Yeah, but it's not in norway

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:27 PM

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you can try the wheat or grits thing too

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:27 PM

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wanna try to avoid tolls if i can

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:27 PM

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oh, you're in norway

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well you can use the .co.uk one

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they're still in the EU, technically..

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:28 PM

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polenta... not grits

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Well there's a pizza stone for $30

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:28 PM

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there's no point getting a pizza stone unless you bake a lot

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it's for baking fresh stuff

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:28 PM

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just get some corn meal or polenta

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:28 PM

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you use them because they're great at absorbing heat

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crank the oven as high as it'll go and preheat the stone for 10-15 mins

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Damn, guys, now i want some pizza

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:29 PM

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https://www.kitchn.no/nettbutikk/baking/bakeredskap/l0231241m10/

Kitchn.no

Lékué, pizza- og bakematte 40x30cm brun

Få en deilig sprø pizzabunn hver gang takket være luftstrømmen fra de små hullene i bakematten. Kan også brukes til brød, boller og baguettes. Tåler opp til 220 grader i ovnen og kan vaskes i oppvaskmaskin.

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:29 PM

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sprinkle it over the pan and put the pizza on top

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:29 PM

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and you can make fresh pizza in a few minutes

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:29 PM

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That'll do i think

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:29 PM

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you guys have square pizza?

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:29 PM

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some, but does it matter what shape it is?

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Do you make your own pizza dough?

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:29 PM

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not really

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:29 PM

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depends on the shape of your pizza

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:29 PM

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There's a few "homemade" frozen pizzas

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that are square

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My mostly round

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I only found this one, among the 2 shops i looked at

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i have now given up, and am satisfied with my find.

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:30 PM

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they have a few things here as well https://www.kitchentime.se/search/pizza

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apparently they'll ship to norway too

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Ye but theres still toll

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afaik anything imported into norway has a fixed toll now

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:31 PM

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you have to pay customs from europe? dang

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Im not up to date on those laws, but i believe that's how it is now

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:31 PM

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toll? do you mean like highway toll or some kind of tax

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:31 PM

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pizza spade lol

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great name for that

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:31 PM

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usually call them a peal

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:31 PM

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peel yeah

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this isn't really a peel though

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:32 PM

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but they are made of wood,

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:32 PM

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I think you just leave this thing in the oven entirely

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:32 PM

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true enough

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you better find something to grab it with

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:32 PM

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roligare matlagning. fuck was it handy to study swedish.

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"more fun to make food"

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:33 PM

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I am confused by this new toll law

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it starts 1.april

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:34 PM

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@glass gorge do you have basically any places where you can import tax-free?

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:35 PM

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I think that is called smuggling

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:35 PM

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in Ireland you can import from anywhere in Europe without paying customs

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Is customs the word

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😅

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:35 PM

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yup

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:35 PM

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until brexit is complete

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:35 PM

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norway isn't in the EU 😐

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:35 PM

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^

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:35 PM

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yeah, unfortunately

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Yeah, any thing under 350kr was custom free

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until 1.april

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Then everything needs to be paid for

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This confused me

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I closed my browser, I am done with the topic

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:36 PM

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that's not the same kr they use in denmark, is it?

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:36 PM

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No

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:36 PM

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they use kr in denmark, sweden and norway but they're all different

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:36 PM

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@glass gorge April 13 this year... guess?

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:36 PM

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that's confusing

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:36 PM

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swe, den and nor uses Kr

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but formally known as dkk, sek, nok.

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Maybe finland? can't say ive shopped there

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:37 PM

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we use EUR

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:37 PM

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EUR OP

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:37 PM

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I just imagine someone walking around in trench coat with pizza trays and other assorted accouterments "hey buddy, want to make a deal?"

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:38 PM

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..lol

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Imagine using mainstream currencies!

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Ha, I laugh!

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:38 PM

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at least it's not rupees

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:38 PM

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cries in customs

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:38 PM

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lal

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the swedes could start using the euros

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:38 PM

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well there is always bitcoin

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:38 PM

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That is something I have considered investing in now

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Heard it crashed hard

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:39 PM

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when hasn't it

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it's a huge sham

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:39 PM

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it did crash hard recently

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Try this:
https://www.bitlisten.com/

BitListen - Bitcoin Transaction Visualizer

Realtime Bitcoin transaction visualizer. See and hear new transactions, trades and blocks as they occur.

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:39 PM

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But then again I just invested like $5000 in fonds and stocks

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:39 PM

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revolut even gave me a notification

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:39 PM

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the whole system is fraudulent to the max. that doesn't mean you can't get rich with it but don't assume you're playing a fair game.

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:40 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Watch me r/wallstreetbet this shit lemon_fingerguns_shades

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:40 PM

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lal

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I put some hundreds of euros in some random shitcoins

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now they're worth maybe 15 euros if lucky

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Heard rumors of the norwegian government agreeing to investing more into biogas

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:41 PM

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I tried mining for like 6 months got DF

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:41 PM

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DF?

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:41 PM

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And given one of the airtravel companies has tanked HARD, from lie 60 kr a stock to 7kr

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have a biogas sister company that also tanked a bit

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:41 PM

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@glass gorge that would be Norwegian?

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:42 PM

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the second word is FIST

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Time to go $2000 in their biogas sister company

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Ye

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Or what do the brits say FA

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yeah

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:43 PM

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I'm already $100 in the green on the airshuttle company, before they even resume business

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:43 PM

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I was fucking dumb. Bought ETH from Ukrainean site (the only one that I actually could use), wanted to wait for a bit, but didn't want to pay for transaction to local wallet and back. Then the owner ran with the money.

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Whelp

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Well, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Fool me thrice, time to quit

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:44 PM

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There was a programming puzzle, can't remember where, they had a bunch of currency and exchange rates the key was to start with some amount and come back to have more..

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Yeah, investing in the norwegian KR is probably a good idea these days

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It's losing a lot of value atm

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:45 PM

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aren't there like instruments for everything

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:45 PM

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I think the economy is not at rock bottom yet

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:45 PM

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I think everyone is going to lose a bunch pretty soon

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Yeah, im holding a good slump of cash to go deeper if the markets drop more

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:45 PM

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IDK, I just paid $1.59 for gas... that's pretty down there

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:45 PM

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if not ill just put it in som stable longterm fond

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Guess the NOK hasnt tanked thaaat bad yet

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its $1 to 10.4kr, it was probably around $1 to 10kr a few months ago

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:46 PM

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I'd wait and either invest in even cheaper assets or fight for rat remains in the ruins of civilisation.

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:46 PM

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candles and batteries

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and toilet paper

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:46 PM

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The key is to invest in companies that either live, or we become a refugee civilization where money doesn't matter anymore :)

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Potatoes and distillery kits.

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:47 PM

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and canned food

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distillation requires fuel

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:47 PM

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I'd rather invest in the companies producing these

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:47 PM

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just make beer and wine

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:47 PM

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are any of you american by chance

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:48 PM

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don't dig the gold, sell the shovel

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I am

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:48 PM

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How much is a bottle of corona?

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And has their value changed 🤔

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:48 PM

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I don't think that in apocalyptic settings fancy drinks would be more in demand that moonshine capable of disinfecting wounds

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:48 PM

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I heard they offered to donate 10 million for the CDC to change the name to Bud Lite Virus

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Nah, i was just curious

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:49 PM

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people are avoiding it though

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Like, actually curious. It's my beer of choice

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Corona Beer is not affected, still more expensive than pbr, and still sucks... Good for boiling hotdogs in thoudh

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:49 PM

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it's really dumb, but.. people

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Corona?

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:49 PM

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It's like if there was Twin Tower Fall beer ten years ago.

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:49 PM

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I'd probably be drinking more of it if I drank

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Where are you from?

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:49 PM

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sucks lemon_glass ?

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Do you knwo why thye put limes in beer?

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:50 PM

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I've probably just grow to like it more, given most other beers make me bloated

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:50 PM

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It's not going to crash into your house, but drinking it would lead to unhappy thoughts

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:50 PM

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No i do not

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I dont drink it with lime usually

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 6:50 PM

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@glacial owl would it though

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:51 PM

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In places where beer was not kept refrigerated they would store it warm, and such. It would get crappy and smell bad. But if you jam a lime in the top all you can smell is the lime

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:51 PM

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lol

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That's great

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Just like how old age housewifes spiced old sour-y meat with salt and pepper for their husbands to eat it

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:52 PM

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I'm not a beer person, but i had awesome lambic with cool sour taste. Lime should go well with a refreshing drink.

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:52 PM

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If you go to a Mexican restaurant here they put lime in all beer, because that's what customers expect. I finally told my waiter that if he brought me a beer with a lime in it, I would through it at him .

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:52 PM

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oh boi

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Fiesty

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:52 PM

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You want a nice mexican beer drink Tekate or Modelo negra

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:52 PM

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I mostly drink it cause it's not that wheat based

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:53 PM

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I'm quite partial to a 7up myself

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:>

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Do enjoy a good stout / porter from time to time though

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Cider is best.

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:53 PM

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most beers are not wheat based, they are supposed to be made from barley and I think Bud uses rice for some reason

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 6:53 PM

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is that why everyone says it's piss?

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Give me something nice and dark on Nitro... Guiness will do

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or a good lager, Yuengling is a goto for me

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:54 PM

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I guess it could be barley i dont tolerate as well?

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idk

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I haven't figured it out tbh, i just tend to avoid bigger quantities of "normal" beer

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:55 PM

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that's what Scotch is for

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Semi-dry, with just a hint of sweetness to balance the sour

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:56 PM

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we have a craft brew place here that does Beer, mead and ciders... all delish

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Can't say I'm a scotch/whiskey etc guy

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Might just be too young for it lemon_smug

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:56 PM

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My preference is for Rye, but a good single malt scotch will get it there

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:56 PM

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That's a really good smug emoji

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i like it

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/680222129727340576.png?v=1

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:57 PM

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well there's always tequilla

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Oof

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:57 PM

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I do enjoy some chartreusse from time to time

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:57 PM

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I have bad experiences with tequilla i would not like to relive

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Cheap spiced rum goes perfectly in a tea cocktail. Honey, tea, lemon - and perfect grog is done.

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:58 PM

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did you eat the worm?

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:58 PM

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the worm?

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:58 PM

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and of course, I do enjoy my namesake

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the worm at the bottom of the bottle?

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 6:59 PM

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And there's something decadent in drinking neat vodka shots at 5 o'clock morning chasing it down with juice/cola.

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 6:59 PM

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the teq bottle?

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is that a thing lemon_glass

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 6:59 PM

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📎 o-WORM-ALCOHOL-570.png

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 7:00 PM

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eeexcuse me

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 7:00 PM

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yes, that's how it's done. And if you get it in your glass, it is supposed to be good luck for the year or something like that... but you have to eat it

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glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 7:01 PM

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oh I've just had this one

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sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 7:01 PM

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considering it's been sitting in tequila for as long as it has

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it's probably not too unpleasant to eat

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 7:01 PM

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I mean, it probably tastes like tequila

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 7:01 PM

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well, if you like tequila

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 7:01 PM

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but I have no idea WTF this one is

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glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 7:01 PM

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eeeeem

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Yeah id not eat that

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 7:01 PM

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feels like we should be in #ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval

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haha

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 7:02 PM

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What's the most expensive alcohol ya'll can buy locally?

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haha

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 7:03 PM

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probably one of the high year singlemalts

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Yeah, definitely whiskey

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 7:03 PM

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guy got arrested selling this stuff

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glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Yeah i would not buy that

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 7:03 PM

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like a 24 year old

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 7:03 PM

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This what's advertised here at least (divide by 10 for $)

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I love how they can sell Riesling for $5000, and not be able to have a picture of it

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 7:04 PM

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yeah, you drink that kind of stuff so you can brag about the cost 🙂 probably tastes like @$$

gentle moss Mar 27, 2020, 7:04 PM

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worm booze

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yay

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i always wanted to do that one in the canadian bar

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 7:04 PM

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like those people drinking the coffee from the cat poop

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Probably does

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 7:04 PM

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kopi luac

gentle moss Mar 27, 2020, 7:04 PM

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where they put a toe in a glass of whisky

glass gorge Mar 27, 2020, 7:04 PM

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I know a lot of people buy the expensive whiskes for the bottle, then refill it later with cheap whiskey

gentle moss Mar 27, 2020, 7:05 PM

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drink it fast or drink it slow but the lips must touch the toe

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 7:05 PM

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There is always Zafiro Añejo Tequila ... but unfortunately it is fiction

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 7:05 PM

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The question is where the toe came from

gentle moss Mar 27, 2020, 7:06 PM

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well there is a whole toe origin story

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but it's not the toe it started out as

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i think it got swallowed once

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so someone donated a new toe

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 7:07 PM

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I can get a nice singlemalt for about $50 that is very drinkable Edradour. Most of my other Scotches are upwards of $100 and that is pretty much where I draw the line

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 7:07 PM

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I think they have multiple toes

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people just send them in or something

glacial owl Mar 27, 2020, 7:07 PM

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I've heard about a giant bottle with entire tiger in some chinese restaurant. Can't remember if it was fiction, though.

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Toe video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHMNX3IXnvs (Tom Scott)

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Oh Canada!

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still better than Corona with lime

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 7:10 PM

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whats so bad about corona?

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I see some people shit on it, and some people who apparently love it

sand goblet Mar 27, 2020, 7:11 PM

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My mom likes it

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That seems to be the primary demographic

undone berry Mar 27, 2020, 7:11 PM

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yeah, tbf, my mum also likes it

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 7:26 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSLFudKBnBI ; tl;dw : don't go out, wash your hands, and if you do go out, don't go close to other people

YouTube

Tom Rocks Maths

Oxford Mathematician explains SIR Travelling Wave disease model for...

The SIR model is one of the simplest ways to understand the spread of a disease such as COVID-19 (Coronavirus) through a population. Allowing the movement of populations makes the model slightly more realistic and results in ‘Travelling Wave’ solutions.

In this video, Oxford...

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north abyss Mar 27, 2020, 7:27 PM

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talking about tequila

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Is it strange one of the songs in my workout playlist is from the movie Footloose

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like the original movie

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Whats the difference between yield from and await

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sql = "SELECT `id`, `password` FROM `users` WHERE `email`=%s"
        cursor.execute(sql, ('webmaster@python.org',))
        result = cursor.fetchone()
        print(result)

I looked more into aiomysql and found out PyMySQL is a dependency. This is how they formatted strings into SQL QUERIES, using the old %s, should I use this format for it or will f'{}' work?

frosty berry Mar 27, 2020, 8:21 PM

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well, yield yields, while await just awaits, it seems a bit stupid said like this, but yield is a bit like return in python, except it doesn't stop the function, what you produce is given to the code that called your function, when you await, you stays in your current context, you get what's produced by the await

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 8:33 PM

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ooh, I like that.. Never read about await yet

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Ah alright, thanks

dense stratus Mar 27, 2020, 8:42 PM

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just looked at an example, and either it is a stupid example or I don't get it

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 9:05 PM

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    @commands.command()
    async def create_channel(self, ctx, name, description='Perfect', category='Programming'):
        query = await self.db.add_channel(
            str(ctx.author.id), name, description, category)

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sinful copper Mar 27, 2020, 9:14 PM

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@velvet rapids do not use f-strings or any other string format method to build sql queries... the %s of mysql libraries isn't the same as the old % operator, for one thing it is always %s not anything type-specific, and you do not use % (args) to format it, it's just a placeholder the library uses after doing all the proper escaping needed

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Yeah, I changed that

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Now I've got this error..

sinful copper Mar 27, 2020, 9:15 PM

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you'll notice it's "... %s", ('webmaster@python.org',) not "... '%s'" % ('webmaster@python.org',) that's an important distinction a lot of people miss the first time they see mysql queries

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anyway, it looks like you're trying to await a function that's not async

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i need to go but maybe someone else can help you from here, sorry

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 9:18 PM

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The function is async tho

sinful copper Mar 27, 2020, 9:19 PM

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add_channel is? i can't find any information about it

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anyway i really do need to go, sorry

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 9:21 PM

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self.db.add_channel isn't part of Discord.py

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Yeah, it's my own thing

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From another cog

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    async def add_channel(self, uid, name, description, category):
        if not self.ascii_checks([name, description, category]):
            print("Okay, I'm gonna return false because you've got some weird ass characters in your name or smthing.")
            return False
        print("Okay I'm going to check if you already have a channel. Sneaky dude.")
        await self.db.execute(
            f"SELECT * FROM users_channels WHERE user_id=%s", (uid,))
        if await self.db.fetchone():
            print("Looks like you already have a channel! Cheapo!")
            await self.db.execute(
                f"SELECT channel_name FROM channels WHERE channel_id=%s", (str(self.db.fetchone()),))
            return await self.db.fetchone()[0]
        print("Oh okay, you don't have a channel. Welcome to vlogertube!")
        await self.db.execute(
            f"INSERT INTO channels (channel_name, description, category)"
            f"VALUES (%s, %s, %s)", (name, description, category,))
        print(await self.db.lastrowid)

rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 9:22 PM

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The error TypeError: object int can't be used in 'await' expression says that it's an integer

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 9:22 PM

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rough sapphire Mar 27, 2020, 9:22 PM

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What does return await self.db.fetchone()[0] return?

velvet rapids Mar 27, 2020, 9:23 PM

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The channel name