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gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:11 PM

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and can you imagine the overhead on that?

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that'd be insane

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:11 PM

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there is no overhead i can feel on our internal openstack or azure cloud

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where should the overhead be coming from?

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:12 PM

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what you're talking about probably isn't equal to an actual physical connection

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it's probably still a remote shell

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just rendered in a browser

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:12 PM

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well

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:12 PM

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shell / desktop

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:12 PM

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if we set it to vga in openstack we cant copy and paste from it, if we set it to serial we can copy paste form it

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:12 PM

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if it's an actual physical connection then you'd have full control of the virtual machine from boot

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:12 PM

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so im quite sure its at least a virtual connection

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and yes bisk

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thats is the point

solid pollen Dec 12, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Or you just don't suck at your job and don't lock you out of the server

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:13 PM

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i mean

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:13 PM

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you can actually completely lose access to AWS instances

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even if you have the root AWS account login

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losing a key requires a support ticket to fix, for example

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:13 PM

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in the end there are at least 3 devs in my group doing kernel development for openbsd which test their shit in the internal cloud, if they dont have control over the VM from boot they kinda have a problem / cant use the openbsd debugger

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so

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i am quite sure that these connections are real connections

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at least real in the /dev/ttyX file system

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:14 PM

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i'm still not sure you can count that as the same as a physical connection

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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can they get into the boot loader, etc

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:15 PM

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i mean if its existant on the machine like an actual /dev/ttyX connection

if i can copy paste from it

if i can type into it even if the kernel panics and drops into its debugger

if i can get into the bootloader

is that a real connection?

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:15 PM

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it's a connection but it's not the same as a true physical connection

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:15 PM

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i mean apart from the cable part i dont see a difference

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:16 PM

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press f8 to load in safe mode

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¬_¬

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:16 PM

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i dont think that is gonna work for openbsd

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iirc the openstack cloud emulates their VMs on KVMs running qemu

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:17 PM

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well the comparable i imagine would be single user mode

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:17 PM

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we have to drop into single user mode for our installation at least twice

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so yes that works

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:17 PM

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i meant comparable to safe mode

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:17 PM

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as i said you can even still type if the kernel panics, drops into single user mode and opens its debugger

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:17 PM

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but that does sound pretty deep for a remote connection

rough sapphire Dec 12, 2019, 1:18 PM

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i'm back

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:18 PM

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hello

rough sapphire Dec 12, 2019, 1:18 PM

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@tired osprey that's not serial

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:18 PM

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thats not serial?

rough sapphire Dec 12, 2019, 1:18 PM

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the framebuffer is just being transmitted over to you

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:18 PM

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no

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that is VGA

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:18 PM

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i'm reading some azure documentation now

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:18 PM

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not azure

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openstack

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i am talking about our openstack cloud

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we explicitly moved away from VGA / framebuffer stuff to serial so we can actually copy the output from kernel panics @rough sapphire

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in azure thats gonna be framebuffers prolly yeah

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but not for our openstack cloud

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:19 PM

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it's apparently not for azure

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:19 PM

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what do they do

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:20 PM

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also this doesn't appear to be for any normal setup

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these are specialised deployments

rough sapphire Dec 12, 2019, 1:21 PM

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@tired osprey ok, even then it's deserialised way before it ever reaches you

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as I doubt you can change the parity, baud rate etc

tired osprey Dec 12, 2019, 1:21 PM

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that i am not sure about

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ill have to check when i get back to work in two weeks

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 1:22 PM

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i'm reading the documentation

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i mean... it's basically just access to the virtual machine at a higher level

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weird that they've called it a serial connection

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then again i'm not sure what else it could be called

undone berry Dec 12, 2019, 2:18 PM

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https://twitter.com/DickKingSmith/status/1205020639234600960?s=20 the best thing about this election

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plucky ridge Dec 12, 2019, 2:21 PM

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I can't get past the name

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 2:21 PM

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hahaha

plucky ridge Dec 12, 2019, 2:21 PM

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Also dibs on that being my stage name

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 2:21 PM

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Dick King-Smith?

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and piers, dogs are the best part of any election

plucky ridge Dec 12, 2019, 2:21 PM

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name.split('-')[0]

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 2:21 PM

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so many good doggos

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 5:12 PM

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backdooring our own server to stop the apprentice breaking shit

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letting him configure fail2ban tomorrow

plucky ridge Dec 12, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Not exactly what I'd call the smartest of things to do

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Or most secure

solid pollen Dec 12, 2019, 5:13 PM

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You have installed a backdoor haha

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 5:13 PM

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it's temporary

solid pollen Dec 12, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Poor apprentice

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 5:13 PM

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besides the server isn't web accessible right now

solid pollen Dec 12, 2019, 5:13 PM

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He is learning at his own speed

plucky ridge Dec 12, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Can't you just give yourself admin rights rather than a backdoor? Or is that what you're doing

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 5:14 PM

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well to be fair he completely fucked up ssh

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couldn't even get in as the root user

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well, the ubuntu user

plucky ridge Dec 12, 2019, 5:14 PM

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That's.... how?

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 5:14 PM

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root login is obviously disabled

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because he fucked with PAM

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and broke shit

plucky ridge Dec 12, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Oh right right

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 5:15 PM

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just a little reverse shell

plucky ridge Dec 12, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Call it "The Magic Conch"

gentle moss Dec 12, 2019, 5:17 PM

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i prefer "fail 2 dumb"

sand goblet Dec 12, 2019, 6:21 PM

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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/12/12/keybase_ends_drops/

Disgrace of Base: Scammy hordes force Keybase to end cryptocoin gi...

It's Lumen awful: Space Drop halted due to excessive douchebaggery

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I guess it was inevitable really

rough sapphire Dec 12, 2019, 7:20 PM

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"Bad people are bad people, news at 9."

rough sapphire Dec 12, 2019, 7:40 PM

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Anyone know anything of cryptocurrencies and merkle roots?

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Trying to piece together why a merkle root would be \x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00

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I think it just hit the end of what's available, so it just zeroed it out, and it's not setup to deal with the issue - but not 100%

solid pollen Dec 12, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Can it even have an end?

rough sapphire Dec 12, 2019, 7:44 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Hmm.

solid pollen Dec 12, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Don't think, since it just store hashes

rough sapphire Dec 12, 2019, 7:44 PM

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I mean more hit the end of the blocks that are currently available.

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Since it pulls from the daemon's folder

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Since the error only seems to happen at the end of all of the block commits

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I'll print around and see what I can find

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lol, looks like it might have been an .encode('hex') issue

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Yep, that's it.

solid pollen Dec 12, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Hmm interesting

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What's causing it?

rough sapphire Dec 12, 2019, 7:51 PM

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Well, I'm not 100% but I'm testing it and I think it just didn't get the information from something that was either .encode('hex') or .decode('hex') - which doesn't work on Python 3.

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Checking it out now

clear turtle Dec 12, 2019, 9:10 PM

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just did my first github release :)

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our model is starting to look good!

vestal briar Dec 12, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Firefox doesn't let me type

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There we go, 2 restarts later

sinful copper Dec 13, 2019, 4:33 AM

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i just had the most random thought

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[yeah yeah fitting name laugh it up]

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so, krispy kreme has a donut that is a yeast donut injected with cake batter

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so i just randomly thought, wouldn't it be weird if after the success of that item they introduced a cake donut filled with raw yeast dough

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 7:17 AM

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i need to scream

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aaaaaa

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:31 AM

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ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH

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fuck everyone.

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:31 AM

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hello police

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omg don't swear Christian python server

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I found a bottle of Monster Energy today.. thought of you Bisk.. because it's probably banned in the UK

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:33 AM

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uhhh

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 8:33 AM

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Well that exit poll wasn't super wrong

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What is it, a 78 seat majority?

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:33 AM

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about the energy drinks?

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:33 AM

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yeah, that's a dumb thing to suggest

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"hurr durr UK bans everything so probably no monster lol"

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:34 AM

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where do you buy your kitchen knives

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 8:34 AM

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At the kitchen knife store!

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:34 AM

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that sounds scary

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:35 AM

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usually at a cookery shop?

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 8:35 AM

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They have other kitchen things too

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:35 AM

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or at a tesco

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or a coop

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 8:35 AM

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Tesco doesn't stock knives here

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:35 AM

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or a lidl

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:35 AM

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I miss Lidl

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 8:35 AM

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Why, is it banned?

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:>

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:35 AM

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classic tronland

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:35 AM

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no.. because it's not available outside the EU lol

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:35 AM

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banning cheap german food

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 8:36 AM

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It does exist in the US

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:36 AM

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I once found a 1 € beer at Lidl.. it was amazing

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:36 AM

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i bet they don't even have fish and chips because they're banned

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:36 AM

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lol

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 8:36 AM

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They probably do have face sitting though

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:36 AM

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📎 IMG_20191213_173420.jpg

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they actually do.. there's a lot of weird places in Tokyo.. for those things

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look at it! that's a whole bottle of monster o.o

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just ban food

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No more overpopulation

solid pollen Dec 13, 2019, 8:38 AM

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You can’t buy it usually?

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:38 AM

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to be fair, you can't get it in bottles here afaik

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but then again

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you can buy a 4 pack which contains a total of 2L for £4.50

solid pollen Dec 13, 2019, 8:39 AM

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You can get it in a can, but not in a bottle??

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:39 AM

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yeah

solid pollen Dec 13, 2019, 8:39 AM

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That’s.. weird

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:39 AM

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i think it's a consumer demand thing

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energy drinks are viewed as like a single serving rather than a thing to drink throughout the day?

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:40 AM

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oh.. hmm this is like 500ml for 2.5 eur

solid pollen Dec 13, 2019, 8:40 AM

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Hmmhhhmm

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:40 AM

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oof

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that's... expensive

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monster tastes like shit anyway

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:40 AM

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yeah.. everything is expensive here

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:40 AM

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rockstar has all the best flavours

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tropical guava is a pretty good one

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they also have some peach ones

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or mango

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i like my energy drinks not to taste like anus

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:41 AM

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how do you know what that tastes like

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:41 AM

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¬_¬

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:43 AM

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apparently there's more sugar in rockstar

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and Monster has larger market share..

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:45 AM

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yeah but redbull is fucking super expensive and also tastes like shit

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but people still buy it

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branding i guess

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:46 AM

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some people like how it tastes..

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:46 AM

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those people are monsters

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:46 AM

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did you know the original formula for redbull is from thailand

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:46 AM

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yes

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and technically redbull didn't start manufacturing it

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they only purchased the rights to market it

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they're pretty much just a marketing company

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:47 AM

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people love those..

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 8:47 AM

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A marketing company with wiiiiings

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:47 AM

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Wiiinngssssss 💸

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:47 AM

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can't doubt the success of redbull

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tbh a lot of sports only get the coverage and events they now do thanks to redbull

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:47 AM

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used to chug them down during high school years..

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 8:48 AM

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I've never really been a big fan of energy drinks

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I used to drink powerade occasionally at school

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:48 AM

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i doubt without their investment that WRC would be as widely covered as it is now

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 8:48 AM

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It's like lightly flavoured water

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 8:49 AM

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i only drink them when i really want to ramp up my heart rate and anxiety

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otherwise i go for coffee

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 8:49 AM

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lol

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i love Sting pretty sure nobody heared about it .
owned by PepsiCo

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 9:03 AM

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sounds tantric

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 9:11 AM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sting_Energy_Drink

Sting Energy Drink

Sting Energy Drink is a carbonated energy drink from PepsiCo International and produced by Rockstar Inc. Sting is available in three flavours, such as original Gold Rush, Gold (with Ginseng), Power Pacq (Gold Rush with Malunggay), Power Lime (Kiwifruit/Lime) and Berry Blast (...

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i love it 😍

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monster tastes like an unicorn's crack and i don't mean that in a good way

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red bull is where it's at

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 9:15 AM

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string: every sip you take, every move you make, we'll be watching you.

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 9:16 AM

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red bull and monster taste exactly same 2 me

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what

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no

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they're nothing alike

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that's sting not string

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 9:16 AM

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typo.

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oh hey

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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/12/12/nhs_england_database/

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that's interesting

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 9:16 AM

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don't change topic

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 9:17 AM

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Talks to package millions of British medical records into a vast, commercially valuable database that may then be sold on are already underway between NHS England bosses and global giants

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 9:17 AM

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i like this topic

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 9:17 AM

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energy drinks is a pretty limited topic

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 9:17 AM

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i've always given a fake name at the NHS

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nau drinks ?

gentle moss Dec 13, 2019, 9:17 AM

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red bull is fine for jagerbombs but i wouldn't drink it for normals

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 9:17 AM

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there was a gap when i drank monster and redbull so maybe yeah there is a difference

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you're a savage

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jägerbombs require the cheapest, vilest energy drink ever

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you know, the shit that's sixty pence a litre

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don't taint my expensive red bull with your jäger

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price_of_sting = price_of_monster/3.33

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not cans

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cans is like half

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pint of ribby for 2 quid mate

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it's expensive

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but so good

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whats quid ?

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currency ?

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the english pound

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 10:02 AM

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If you think 60c energy drinks sound bad

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Let me tell you about 60c vodka

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Hooooo boy

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 10:03 AM

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let me stop you there

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i don't want to go blind

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Seriously though

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Tesco vodka back when I was in university

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everyone was fucking drinking it

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and it was like paint stripper

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I don't drink but I could taste it on the air

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they were getting like, concentrated fruit cordial

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filling up the glass and then adding a shot of this vodka

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(so it wasn't diluted)

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 10:04 AM

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i gagged

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 10:04 AM

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haha

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I have no idea how they drank it

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 10:05 AM

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hey man, students

sand goblet Dec 13, 2019, 10:05 AM

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some of us have standards

solid pollen Dec 13, 2019, 10:31 AM

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Vim users, which plugin manager do you use? Last time I tried vim-plugin, it did some dumb things (maybe my fault actually)

tired osprey Dec 13, 2019, 10:32 AM

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@solid pollen pathogen

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not necessarily because its the most convenient but because i sometimes work on machines that are not allowed to communicate outside of our internal lan but id still like to have access to my plugins without having to download them from github (which i cant on those machines)

solid pollen Dec 13, 2019, 10:34 AM

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Hmm

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Well, my machine can communicate with the internet

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Is it pretty strait forward to use?

tired osprey Dec 13, 2019, 10:35 AM

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with pathogen you basically have a "call pathogen#infect()" in your vimrc and its gonna load all subdirectories in .vim/bundle as plugins

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so you always gotta carry your .vim/bundle with you

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which if it is a git submodule isnt really a problem

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like

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github.com/hargonix/dotfiles

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here my bundle https://github.com/hargoniX/dotfiles/tree/master/dotfiles/vim/bundle is basically just git submodles really

GitHub

hargoniX/dotfiles

My dotfiles, managed with dotdrop. Contribute to hargoniX/dotfiles development by creating an account on GitHub.

solid pollen Dec 13, 2019, 10:39 AM

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Hmm interesting

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But I think I should start with something more simple

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But.. I keep that in mind, thanks!

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 11:28 AM

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hi there

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 11:45 AM

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hello

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 12:16 PM

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ok uni, but won't the fact that i graduated a year ago be a bit of an issue?

📎 unknown.png

tired osprey Dec 13, 2019, 12:20 PM

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No @rough sapphire

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Don't question the university

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Bad boy

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 1:49 PM

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so your name is Rasmus

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what's the program about

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idk some travel bollocks

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not really interested

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and I don't even think I qualify seeing as I'm not an undergraduate

terse sluice Dec 13, 2019, 4:20 PM

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woah i see the markdown previews now

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that's cool

plucky ridge Dec 13, 2019, 4:24 PM

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It's soooooo nice

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No more having to guess if you're lining something up properly

terse sluice Dec 13, 2019, 4:27 PM

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yeah agree it's awesome

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Auto completion could make it better ;-;

plucky ridge Dec 13, 2019, 4:56 PM

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I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth

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This is leaps and bounds better than what it was

terse sluice Dec 13, 2019, 4:57 PM

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auto completion is probably far, far away

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 4:58 PM

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still
a good Christmas present to us

plucky ridge Dec 13, 2019, 4:58 PM

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God damn it f1re, now the Star Wars opening theme is in my head

terse sluice Dec 13, 2019, 4:58 PM

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😂

stark prawn Dec 13, 2019, 5:13 PM

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https://github.com/pypa/pipenv/issues/4058

GitHub

If this project is dead, just tell us · Issue #4058 · pypa/pipenv

Duplicate of #3742 and the 6 or so similar issues already linked there. As of writing, it's been 381 days and 669 commits since a release. Please consider the impact of the project maintain...

rough sapphire Dec 13, 2019, 5:16 PM

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4058

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my browser didn't liked that number and not loading it

undone berry Dec 14, 2019, 1:01 AM

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fat rat with smol rat - they are some of the cutest animals

📎 47m8whbn3f441.png

plucky ridge Dec 14, 2019, 1:03 AM

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AWWWW

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That biggun's had a little too much cheesecake

cloud wren Dec 14, 2019, 1:11 AM

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@undone berry My brother and his two roomates have two rats. At first I was like why would you have rats, but they are actually super cute and fun to have.

plucky ridge Dec 14, 2019, 1:11 AM

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And they're so affectionate

undone berry Dec 14, 2019, 1:12 AM

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Yeah, they seem like great pets. I think I'll get some when I graduate

plucky ridge Dec 14, 2019, 1:12 AM

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And they'll sit on your shoulder and nuzzle you and clean your ears

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 7:05 AM

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Plague.exe

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 7:22 AM

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Nice to see the server kept this logo btw

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It's really cool

gentle moss Dec 14, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Rats are amazing @undone berry

gentle moss Dec 14, 2019, 8:48 AM

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oh great

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i'm still on a "temporary" 30 minute lockout from the Datto portals

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friggin great

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HAH

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and it gets better

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a customer's exchange server can't send or receive

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and i can't access it because of the lockout

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oh god, their support isn't going to be of any help again yaaaay

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"it seems like your ticket has been assigned to the security and compliance team so i'm not sure how much i'll be able to do?"

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we should've carried on self hosting labtech

gentle moss Dec 14, 2019, 10:45 AM

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an apprentices story; part 236347:

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my ssh account hasn't got the correct permissions on the google authenticator file and i cannot login

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default account works, but the 2FA barcode hasn't been saved anywhere

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 10:50 AM

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Time to use the backdoor!

gentle moss Dec 14, 2019, 11:01 AM

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quite

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 3:13 PM

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What's it called when something happens then just goes completely back to normal, making it feel like you just made it up

sand goblet Dec 14, 2019, 3:16 PM

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A surprise?

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 3:17 PM

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No, a suprise is more of a happy scare

pine vector Dec 14, 2019, 3:18 PM

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a figment of your imagination? 😄

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Example is someone starts screaming at someone and stops, but nobody really reacts

pine vector Dec 14, 2019, 3:32 PM

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hehe. i call that being desensitized to someone's outbreaks. "Jimmy's at it again. meh."

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but, i don't have a word for it... 🤷‍♂️

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:46 PM

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hi

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Hey!

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:46 PM

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👋

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Ive got as far as creating a repo

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:47 PM

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So, you are going to need a server that will receive the information from github that something has changed on the repo

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:48 PM

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I have a debian server

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Have you configured nginx or apache or something?

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:48 PM

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No

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Okay

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I think we can make it run a specific port, so that's okay

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Okay, have you ever used flask?

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:49 PM

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yes

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I tried building a website for like 2 days and then I gave up

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Great, so we are going to create an app for it to receive gh infos

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:50 PM

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okie

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Can be as simple as that

from flask import Flask

app = Flask(__name__)

@app.route('/')
def push():
    # Pull data
    return```

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:51 PM

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wow

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Well, we need something instead of # Pull data

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What is your project?

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:52 PM

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d.py

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Hmm, we are going to kill the process when we have a new push

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:53 PM

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sounds good

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:54 PM

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I'm looking for the docs

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:54 PM

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d.py?

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Python

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Subprocess

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:54 PM

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oh

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Okay so, do you have a link to your repo?

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:55 PM

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shall I just copy the url

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Yep

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:55 PM

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ok

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i dmed you the link

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Man, it is a private repo, can't access it

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That's okay

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:56 PM

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should I change it

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:56 PM

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How do you run your bot?

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:56 PM

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oh through cmd

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right now Its running on my debian though

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on a tmux session

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:57 PM

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What is the command?

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:57 PM

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to run the script?

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:57 PM

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To run the bot?

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:57 PM

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python3 main.py

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Okay

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 3:58 PM

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I have multiple files

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that are run by that main file

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automatically

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:01 PM

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I think we can do something like this :

from flask import Flask
import subprocess

app = Flask(__name__)

bot_process = subprocess.Popen(['python3', 'main.py'])

@app.route('/')
def push():
    global bot_process
    bot_process.terminate()
    subprocess.run(['git', 'pull', '--force'])
    bot_process = subprocess.Popen(['python3', 'main.py'])
    return```

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It should work

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Try to run this file, the bot should start

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It need to be in the same folder as main.py

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:02 PM

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ok

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whats the command to make a new file?

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wait nvm ik

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:02 PM

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What editor do you use?

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:03 PM

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atom

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im doing it on the debian server no?

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Yes

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You have only shell access to the server or you have a GUI access?

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:04 PM

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gui

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idk what the differance is

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:04 PM

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All g then

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:04 PM

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i think its a gui

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ok

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lemme do that

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:04 PM

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GUI you can click, shell you just have a terminal

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:04 PM

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i just have a terminal

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:04 PM

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So shell

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:05 PM

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yes

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:05 PM

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You need to use a terminal based editor then

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Either nano, simpler but it is as basic as the notepad, or vim, but keybinds are weird

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:06 PM

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ye i use nano

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:06 PM

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So just nano <filename>

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:06 PM

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ye

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i need ti install flask right

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to*

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do i need to install subprocess

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Only flask, subprocess is built in

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:08 PM

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ok

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done

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lemme get my charger real quick

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done

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ok what do i do next

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shall I run that script

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Yep!

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:13 PM

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okie

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done

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its running

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Nice!

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:15 PM

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what do I do now

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Do you have a line * Running on http://127.0.0.1:5000/?

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In your shell output?

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:15 PM

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no

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📎 unknown.png

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Okay, add this at the end of your file

if __name__ == '__main__':
  app.run(host='0.0.0.0')```

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The bot is still running?

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:20 PM

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ye

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alright done

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Hmmm, I think we need to kill the bot first

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:22 PM

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how do I kill it

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Are you 100% certain that it is still running? The end of the script should have killed it

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:23 PM

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yeh still running

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📎 unknown.png

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Try to run ps aux | grep -i python3

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:27 PM

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okie

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📎 unknown.png

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:28 PM

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kill 7682

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:28 PM

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operations not permited

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 4:29 PM

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sudo/run as root?

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:30 PM

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yeh it worked

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bots still running though

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:30 PM

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It should have stopped now..

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:30 PM

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OH

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I THINK I KNOW WHY

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MY TMUX SESSION STILL RUNNING

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caps

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 4:32 PM

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OK

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:35 PM

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nvm

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no dont got any sessions running

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but still not stopped

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@solid pollen

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Reboot?

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:41 PM

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the terminal?

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:43 PM

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The server

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:43 PM

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how do I do that?

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nvm doing it now

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done

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yup bots offline

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Okay, now restart the script

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 4:54 PM

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ok

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I see it now

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📎 unknown.png

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what shall I do now

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it hasent auto shut yet

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terminated*

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@solid pollen

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Try to push a new commit (something you can test easily if it has been updated) and then visit http:<server plublic IP>:5000/

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 5:09 PM

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ok

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I dont have any files in the git thing yet

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Oh, I thought you were in a git folder

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 5:11 PM

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how do i upload the files

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 5:16 PM

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here is little tutorial for you https://product.hubspot.com/blog/git-and-github-tutorial-for-beginners

An Intro to Git and GitHub for Beginners (Tutorial)

Step-by-step tutorial for beginners to get started with git and GitHub.

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 5:16 PM

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done

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i added the files

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and added a new test command

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📎 unknown.png

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Not 0.0.0.0, your server public IP

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 5:24 PM

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oh

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same thing

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📎 unknown.png

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thats the external ip

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Are you on port 5000?

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 6:04 PM

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your ports need to be forwarded if you're connecting from your external ip dog

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 6:06 PM

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im on port 5000 yes

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@solid pollen

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Yeah, probably something blocking it in between

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 6:23 PM

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how do I fix that

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?*

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 6:47 PM

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you need to set up port forwarding

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 6:48 PM

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what does that mean

terse sluice Dec 14, 2019, 6:51 PM

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it’s in your router settings

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it’s different for each router model/brand

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 6:52 PM

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i dont have access to my router settings

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im not the admin

terse sluice Dec 14, 2019, 6:54 PM

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this wouldn’t be possible then

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you’d only be able to connect to it locally

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 6:55 PM

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rip all I wanted to do was to push my git code to my server lol

terse sluice Dec 14, 2019, 6:56 PM

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you could use a hosting service

dark epoch Dec 14, 2019, 6:56 PM

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?

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Stumbled upon some strange semi-russian propaganda video for putin and found this comment:

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Don't think that's quite how it works

undone berry Dec 14, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Given that half the world hates America (not unfairly so) its not a particularly surprising sentiment

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 9:31 PM

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i don't hate america

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i hate how america only thinks about america or seems to have this conception that the US is the only country in the world

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but still

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 9:32 PM

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When it says the west, does it mean the west or just america

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 9:33 PM

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also west from what

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everything is west from something

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 9:33 PM

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West and east are just political terms on a 2d projection of map

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 9:34 PM

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don't know about you dog but I live in a 3d world

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 9:34 PM

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That doesn't even corrospond on a 2d map anymore because of places like australia

undone berry Dec 14, 2019, 9:34 PM

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The west refers generally to NA, Europe and Oceania

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Yeah

undone berry Dec 14, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Western culture vs eastern culture

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Also, Central/Southern America very understandably hate the US - as does the Middle East

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Going back to that comment, are they also saying some prudent political figures in the 20th century are good?

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 9:35 PM

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@sonic night nah, even their compass/map projection works in a way where everything is west from something

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it's like a circle unto itself

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📎 Map.png

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 9:36 PM

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THE ICE WALL

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 9:37 PM

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torus earth theory

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 9:37 PM

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I still don't get how you could even think it's flat

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I mean if we dug deep enough we'd come out the other side?

undone berry Dec 14, 2019, 9:37 PM

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I think they just want to rebel against some universally accepted idea

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like subconciously

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so they don't give a shit about the logic in it

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 9:37 PM

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So then how would the earth be structually sound

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 9:37 PM

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@vestal briar but nobody's ever dug even close to deep enough for that

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no pic no proof

undone berry Dec 14, 2019, 9:38 PM

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It doesn't matter that they're wrong - just that they're different

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Well how do they know the depth

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 9:38 PM

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and don't give me that NASA doctored bs

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Is it just a cylnder with one side populated or something to them?

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 9:38 PM

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you know, my gf used to sorta believe the flat earth theory, or at least found it very plausible

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she had this seemingly "smart" friend who misused her trust by telling her all of these fucking theories

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freemasonry, illuminati, flat earth etc

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 9:39 PM

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What would be the motives in covering up the flat earth anyway

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 9:39 PM

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and she believed her because she thought the friend was smart

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kinda sad really

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gotta be slightly sociopathic to keep that shit going for as long as it did

undone berry Dec 14, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Yeah, somewhat smart people who try to mislead others or just lie when they don't know something are some of the biggest scumbags

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and then they turn around and say "its just a joke" or get annoyed because you don't trust them

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Yeah

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 9:46 PM

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makes me sorta really angry thinking about it

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don't get angry very often

grave phoenix Dec 14, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Earth is a dinosaur

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 10:06 PM

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roothink

robust sierra Dec 14, 2019, 10:07 PM

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pfft nasa making rockets when they could have made the astronauts skydive off the edge smh

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 10:07 PM

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roothink x2

robust sierra Dec 14, 2019, 10:08 PM

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@vestal briar hmm say we did dig deep enough

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would you just fall into space?

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 10:09 PM

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The void

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Well gravity apparently doesn't exist

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So i'm not sure

robust sierra Dec 14, 2019, 10:09 PM

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okay so

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how far down until you start feeling the force of gravity on your head

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Gravity isn't a thing

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Forget all scientific knowlage becuase it apparently is all created by nasa

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 10:11 PM

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gravity does not exist

robust sierra Dec 14, 2019, 10:12 PM

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we're all just really fat

rough sapphire Dec 14, 2019, 10:12 PM

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the earth is accelerating upwards at a constant rate of 9.8 m/s²

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Gravity doesn't exist, it is all about fatness

robust sierra Dec 14, 2019, 10:12 PM

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^

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helium can zoom up into the air because its anti-fat

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i read the channel name as "no dirty alpacas"

wheat lynx Dec 14, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Surely if there was no gravity and the Earth was accelerating up you still wouldn't experience a gravity like effect

robust sierra Dec 14, 2019, 10:16 PM

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hm

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Well, they are fat things

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So their fatness make them go closer to the ground

robust sierra Dec 14, 2019, 10:16 PM

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no drag means no gravity like effect?

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@wheat lynx because no drag?

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 10:21 PM

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No, they are all flat, because it is better

solid pollen Dec 14, 2019, 11:12 PM

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I am seriously tired of Apple

📎 Screenshot_2019-12-15-00-10-14-4212.jpeg

jagged fog Dec 14, 2019, 11:12 PM

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I'm getting tired of people who buy those

terse sluice Dec 14, 2019, 11:13 PM

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imagine spending over 56 grand on a mac pro

undone berry Dec 14, 2019, 11:14 PM

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I'm getting tired of people who buy those for osx power users, it's just the most sensible choice

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But the ecc thing is pretty shitty

jagged fog Dec 14, 2019, 11:15 PM

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osx power users?

undone berry Dec 14, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Yeah

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Tonnes of them

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Including a lot of developers

jagged fog Dec 14, 2019, 11:15 PM

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ah ye the vicious circle

terse sluice Dec 14, 2019, 11:15 PM

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if i really wanted osx, i’d honestly use a hackintosh

jagged fog Dec 14, 2019, 11:15 PM

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but understandable

terse sluice Dec 14, 2019, 11:15 PM

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yeah

undone berry Dec 14, 2019, 11:16 PM

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Not even necessarily the vicious circle. It's just a good choice for a lot of people

jagged fog Dec 14, 2019, 11:16 PM

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ye I can't see that

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if you're not making cash money with it then there's no reason to have it

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(anything apple related really)

undone berry Dec 14, 2019, 11:17 PM

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Well. Most users are making cash with it

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Or with the one they use at work, so they use the same at home

terse sluice Dec 14, 2019, 11:18 PM

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lots use logic pro, final cut, and other programs

undone berry Dec 14, 2019, 11:19 PM

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For a lot of people spending an extra couple of thousand on a computer just doesn't matter

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And they don't care about the specs as long as it runs smoothly

jagged fog Dec 14, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Ye that mentality is meh

vestal briar Dec 14, 2019, 11:56 PM

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That's like being rich and not picking up a £10 note on the floor

rough sapphire Dec 15, 2019, 1:56 AM

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space is hot and we arelivinng in the inside of the hollow earth

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https://tenor.com/view/prove-me-wrong-erika-ishii-vampire-vampire-the-masquerede-vtm-gif-12779184

Tenor

vestal briar Dec 15, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Ok

undone berry Dec 15, 2019, 8:30 AM

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That's like being rich and not picking up a £10 note on the floor it's nothing like that. If you want a bad analogy, it's like being rich and buying a coke in one shop despite the fact you could get it cheaper a few doors down

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 10:59 AM

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it's like being rich and buying a pepsi that costs twice as much as offbrand cola.

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no, it's related to the discussion of the $50k mac pro

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tbh, some industries rely on Mac

rough sapphire Dec 15, 2019, 11:00 AM

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that bullshit

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 11:00 AM

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and you can't get mac servers

rough sapphire Dec 15, 2019, 11:00 AM

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yeah that sucks

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 11:00 AM

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and hackintoshes are flaky as fuck if you need it for your business

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there's a place for a $50k mac

rough sapphire Dec 15, 2019, 11:00 AM

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in garbage

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 11:00 AM

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in a perfect world that place is a bin

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but sadly not everything runs on windows

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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skimping on the ECC is a bit shitty

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but i mean, ECC is already pretty damn expensive

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holy shit $1.2k for 2 x 32GB DDR4 ECC

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that should be around ~$700

tough stratus Dec 15, 2019, 12:05 PM

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Correction, you can't get modern apple servers e.e
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xserve

Xserve

Xserve is a line of rack unit computers designed by Apple Inc. for use as servers. Introduced in 2002, it was Apple's first designated server hardware design since the Apple Network Server in 1996. In the meantime, ordinary Power Macintosh G3 and G4 models were rebranded as M...

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I remember my old High School had one of these specifically for the music department's macs... god knows how old it was e.e

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 12:09 PM

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well technically, you can get mac "servers"

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you're supposed to rack up a shit load of mac mini's

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🙄

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vestal briar Dec 15, 2019, 12:12 PM

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Perfection

tough stratus Dec 15, 2019, 12:18 PM

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Yikes

vapid bluff Dec 15, 2019, 1:14 PM

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is there a way to make lsof just spit out the number of processes using a file?

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 1:21 PM

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oh, just the count?

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you could use wc to count the lines and subtract the headers / pointless stuff?

vapid bluff Dec 15, 2019, 1:26 PM

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for some reason im getting multiple lines for the same process

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but im pretty sure theres only one handle

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🤷

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maybe im having an xy problem here though

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basically im trying to figure out if a piece of posix shared memory is currently in use or not (and how many processes are using it)

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so using lsof on the corresponding... file? in /dev/shm

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admin@admin-OptiPlex-9020:/dev/shm$ lsof test_memory 
COMMAND    PID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
python3.7 8244 admin  mem    REG   0,25       16   21 test_memory
python3.7 8244 admin    3u   REG   0,25       16   21 test_memory
python3.7 8244 admin    4u   REG   0,25       16   21 test_memory

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import posix_ipc
import os
import time

from mmap import mmap

class Lock:
    def __init__(self, name):
        self.semaphore = posix_ipc.Semaphore(name, posix_ipc.O_CREAT, initial_value=1)

    def acquire(self):
        self.semaphore.acquire(timeout=None)

    def release(self):
        self.semaphore.release()

    def __enter__(self):
        self.acquire()
        return self

    def __exit__(self, exc_type, exc_val, exc_tb):
        self.release()


if __name__ == '__main__':
    lock = Lock('test_lock')

    with lock:
        memory = posix_ipc.SharedMemory('test_memory', posix_ipc.O_CREAT)
        os.ftruncate(memory.fd, 16)
        block = mmap(memory.fd, 16)

    while True:
        with lock:
            value = int.from_bytes(block[:], 'big')
            print(value)
            value += 1
            block[:] = value.to_bytes(16, 'big')
        time.sleep(1)

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i understand why the mem fd is in that list

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but no idea why there are two below

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does mmap open another handle?

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this whole thing is actually, surprisingly, much less headache to accomplish on windows

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since windows refcounts mmap shared memory automatically

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 2:57 PM

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ahhhh

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a unique count?

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hang on

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i think i can help

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lsof test_memory | awk '!seen[$2]++' | wc -l

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try that @vapid bluff

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repeated PID's will be discarded by awk there

vapid bluff Dec 15, 2019, 3:01 PM

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oh cool! thanks

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!seen[$2]++ very interesting syntax biskthink

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hmm, seems like it's giving 1 extra

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 3:02 PM

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basically "if not seen in column 2 before then print"

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yeah, that's the top line

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column names

vapid bluff Dec 15, 2019, 3:02 PM

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ohh right right

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 3:04 PM

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awk is super useful

vapid bluff Dec 15, 2019, 3:05 PM

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is there a list somewhere of other similarly useful utilities?

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 3:06 PM

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probably

vapid bluff Dec 15, 2019, 3:06 PM

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grep is the only one im familiar with 😅

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 3:07 PM

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grep, egrep (uses regex), awk (it's own frigging world) are kind of the main ones

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wc for counting stuff

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uniq is useful for counting occurances of things

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oh sed, too

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allows inline replacement

vapid bluff Dec 15, 2019, 3:09 PM

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thanks, ill check those out

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 3:10 PM

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if you ran something like uhh

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lsof whatever | awk -F ' ' '{print $2}' * | uniq -c

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you'll see the count of each PID

vapid bluff Dec 15, 2019, 3:14 PM

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i see

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do you know whether mac has /dev/shm too?

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 3:14 PM

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not a clue

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i'd assume so?

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ah, seems like you'd have to create a ram disk

vapid bluff Dec 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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oh rip.

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need some cross-compatible way of figuring out whether some shared memory is in use or not

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which again, surprisingly, windows does automatically

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then cleans it up when no longer needed

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 3:18 PM

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that stuff's beyond me :D

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i just like terminals <_<

lilac glade Dec 15, 2019, 3:19 PM

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@bisk I can attest to that mac server comment.

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vapid bluff Dec 15, 2019, 3:19 PM

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including command prompt? :D

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 3:24 PM

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well, i'm getting better at powershell

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but command / batch scripting is kinda basic bitch level

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<_<

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the school i worked at had a mac mini acting as a server for the media wing

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that thing... the fucking worst

lilac glade Dec 15, 2019, 3:26 PM

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And so did we, until we moved onto JAMF for full management.

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 3:27 PM

#

does JAMF integrate with AD in anyway?

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macs in a windows environment is such a hrrrrrrrnnnnnnngggg problem

rough sapphire Dec 15, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Linus tech tips will roll out a video tommorow with 2 terabytes of RAM . test consist a tons of chrome tab consuming 60 gigs.

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 3:29 PM

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wow what a useful thing to do

lilac glade Dec 15, 2019, 3:29 PM

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IIRC yes.

solid pollen Dec 15, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Not sure if inshoukd continue whatching his videos

lilac glade Dec 15, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Coworkers don't really let me touch the mac server.

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 3:29 PM

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tbh they're so fickle it's probably for good reason

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:D

undone berry Dec 15, 2019, 3:36 PM

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LTT is just clickbait trash

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 3:56 PM

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well i've seen a few that were good

#

but a broken clock blinks 12:00

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 9:28 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

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fuck yeah

#

birthday dinner \o/

undone berry Dec 15, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Happy birthday

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 9:57 PM

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thanks, forgot i didn't mention it in here

wheat lynx Dec 15, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Happy birthday 🎉

rustic arrow Dec 15, 2019, 10:30 PM

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is that raw meat

#

hey guys

#

is it true that python can do the same thing as php and there's no point of learning php?

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 10:36 PM

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it was raw meat

sand goblet Dec 15, 2019, 10:36 PM

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now it's slightly less raw

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 10:39 PM

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:D

#

📎 unknown.png

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i did have it rare.

rustic arrow Dec 15, 2019, 10:39 PM

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lol

#

is it true that python can do the same thing as php and there's no point of learning php?

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 10:41 PM

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yeah sure why not

#

don't learn php

#

you'll save yourself infinite headaches

rough sapphire Dec 15, 2019, 11:33 PM

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oh yeah

#

i did it

#

i run rm -Rf / --no-preserve-root

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 11:34 PM

#

now rebuild it

rough sapphire Dec 15, 2019, 11:34 PM

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nah

#

was in a vm

#

just to know what happens

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 11:34 PM

#

did you do it as roulette?

rough sapphire Dec 15, 2019, 11:35 PM

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no

#

Should i?

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 11:35 PM

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[ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf --no-preserve-root / || echo Click

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i think my longest is in the 20's or so

#

click click click click

frosty berry Dec 15, 2019, 11:49 PM

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it's not interresting if it's not in production

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(happy birthday!)

rough sapphire Dec 15, 2019, 11:52 PM

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happy birthday bisk

gentle moss Dec 15, 2019, 11:59 PM

#

thank you thank you

#

rm roulette in production

#

oof

#

i mean i'd have little problem with it in our production

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as i can just restore the volumes in like 2 minutes

#

and just blame amazon

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 1:18 AM

#

Anyone that is a software engineer and what company do you work for? Please private message me as I need some help.

terse sluice Dec 16, 2019, 1:22 AM

#

ask in #career-advice

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@rough sapphire

granite plover Dec 16, 2019, 2:01 AM

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@gentle moss saw just now, happy birthday dude! have a nice one!

gentle moss Dec 16, 2019, 2:14 AM

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ty. it's over where i live now though

#

i am no longer celebrating

#

i've moved onto accepting how many years are between me and jurassic park

granite plover Dec 16, 2019, 2:41 AM

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hahahah 😛

#

i'll get older in 25.12 too

#

it's not nice when you past the 18's

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 8:44 AM

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The beardcam longlemon

📎 EA78FBE6-1090-4E36-B49F-7797FEE09079.jpeg

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(From the code jam 5 judging stream)

#

Remind me of this video https://youtu.be/DIBXg8Qh7bA

YouTube

Python Discord

Python Discord 15K Hot Ones Special

To celebrate the Python Discord server reaching 15K members, one of the server owners, Lemon, and a moderator, Eivl, have teamed up to do a tribute to Hot Ones by First We Feast while answering questions from the community.

All credit goes to First We Feast for the hot sauc...

▶ Play video

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The last one made me laugh too much than it should

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 8:54 AM

#

hot ones? am I in there?

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 1:00 PM

#

📎 Screenshot_20191216_183001.png

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its about to be doubled

vestal briar Dec 16, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Why 🤔

#

Oh

#

From the video

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 1:21 PM

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Almost 30k!

manic patio Dec 16, 2019, 1:23 PM

#

When was the last time inactive discord accounts were purged? 😂

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 1:24 PM

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~~They don’t purge account I think~~ well, they do

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 1:24 PM

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they do occasionally purge here

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 1:24 PM

#

I never understood the point of purging members

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 1:24 PM

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makes your user counts more accurate

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 1:28 PM

#

Hmm fair enough

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 1:53 PM

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I don't think that's true

#

there's an upper limit of active users before the process falls over

#

not really the same thing though

oak tangle Dec 16, 2019, 1:54 PM

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We've gotten an upgrade of the maximum simultaneous online members, since the cap used to be 5k (not sure what the default cap is these days)

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 1:58 PM

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that's exactly what I said, yes

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Active users, haha

#

but pruning doesn't help with that problem much

#

since the users are already offline for a while

#

and whether you have a role

#

yeah

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 3:36 PM

#

Anyone used https://ifttt.com/

IFTTT

Get started with IFTTT, the easiest way to do more with your favorite apps and devices for free. Make your home more relaxing. Make your work more productive. Keep your data private and secure. We believe every thing works better together

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 3:37 PM

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Used it yep

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It is great!

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 3:37 PM

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yes, that is a very well known service

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 3:40 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

should i agree ?

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Of course?

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 3:44 PM

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I did. I don't say weird things to my google assistant ;-;

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 3:46 PM

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IFTTT is used to create custom commands -_-

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 3:47 PM

#

IFTTT = I Filled Twenty Tuna Tubs

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You're welcome

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 3:47 PM

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You're on the ball today

#

haha

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Wait google himself gives support to make custom commands ?

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 3:52 PM

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well no

#

you can make routines yes but they can't interact with external services

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Thats sad :C

#

IFTTT now only

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 3:53 PM

#

Wait. "Google himself"?

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Itself*

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Oh okay good. I thought Google became an actual being.

#

Got scared

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 3:54 PM

#

huhh

#

you really need some sleep , looks like

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 3:54 PM

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I'm just being silly

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 3:54 PM

#

weirdly silly *

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 3:55 PM

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This is pretty baseline for me, actually

#

As many here will attest to

royal lakeBOT Dec 16, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Yeah, Hemlock's acting pretty normal.

frosty berry Dec 16, 2019, 3:56 PM

#

corporations are people too!

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Did you just echo that ?

#

Sneaky

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 3:56 PM

#

I plead the 5th

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 3:56 PM

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.bm https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/463035241142026251/656162398255710211 Hemlock being silly 101

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Your baseline is to need some sleep or to be silly? 😄

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Both honestly

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:05 PM

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@solid pollen you have experience with sql ?

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I want a little help

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Very little

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:06 PM

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📎 unknown.png

#

See this is a table

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 4:07 PM

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SELECT hemlock FROM user WHERE status is 'sleepy/silly'```Okay, I think I’m just as tired as you hemlock

#

I see it

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:07 PM

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SELECT * FROM 'GIVEAWAY' WHERE guild_id = 579053596310765600

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Should work right

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it return nothing

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WTF

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\o/ HELP ME

terse heron Dec 16, 2019, 4:08 PM

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No quotes around the table?

#

@rough sapphire

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:08 PM

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STILL NOTHING

#

SELECT * FROM GIVEAWAY WHERE guild_id = 579053596310765600

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If you meant this

terse heron Dec 16, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Yea

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Try quotes around the guild ID

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

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nothing

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

#

It might be a string

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

#

Its INT

terse heron Dec 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

#

Table is case sensitive by the way in case it’s lowercase

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

#

Surely it should be a Long?

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:09 PM

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📎 unknown.png

#

Does length even matter ?

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Yes.

#

But your int is large enough to accommodate it

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:10 PM

#

any reason why its not returning anything ?\

terse heron Dec 16, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Try GIVEAWAY.guild_id

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@rough sapphire

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:11 PM

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I dont't got how

terse heron Dec 16, 2019, 4:11 PM

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?

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

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LIKE ```sql
SELECT * from giveaway.guild_id is 213512616

#

?

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

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Nooo

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

SELECT * FROM GIVEAWAY WHERE GIVEAWAY.guild_id = 579053596310765600

Both didn't worked

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

Okay, just quickly

#

SELECT * FROM GIVEAWAY;```

#

Does that properly give you both rows?

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:13 PM

#

AFFIRMATIVE

#

I mean yes

#

It works with time

#

SELECT * FROM GIVEAWAY WHERE time is 20191213125058880000

coral void Dec 16, 2019, 4:14 PM

#

Quote the column

#

SELECT * FROM GIVEAWAY where `guild_id` is ...

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

I hate that = is equal to

coral void Dec 16, 2019, 4:15 PM

#

And unfortunately backticks vs single quotes matters

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:15 PM

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It's so counter to every other language

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:16 PM

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NEGATIVE @coral void

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no response

coral void Dec 16, 2019, 4:16 PM

#

That is quite strange

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:18 PM

#

SELECT * FROM GIVEAWAY AS T0
WHERE T0.guild_id LIKE 579053596310765600;

coral void Dec 16, 2019, 4:18 PM

#

try

SELECT `guild_id` from GIVEAWAY;

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:18 PM

#

@plucky ridge your code returned nothing

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Sounds right

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:19 PM

#

@coral void your one returned 2 rows as expected

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:19 PM

#

Okay, so it doesn't have an issue with the column name like I thought it might for some reason

#

Although...

gentle moss Dec 16, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

uhh

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:20 PM

#

Hi bisk

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

SELECT * from GIVEAWAY where `guild_id` is not 579053596310765600;

return 2 rows

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

SELECT * FROM GIVEAWAY
WHERE `item` = 'asfa';

gentle moss Dec 16, 2019, 4:21 PM

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shouldn't be be "guild_id = <Value>"

#

not "is"

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

returns 1 row

#

both works @gentle moss

#

OOPS

#

📎 unknown.png

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:22 PM

#

Okay, I think I almost have it

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 4:22 PM

#

almost :)

coral void Dec 16, 2019, 4:23 PM

#

I can't reproduce the problem locally, which is interesting

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:23 PM

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SELECT * FROM GIVEAWAY 
WHERE guild_id=579053596310765600;```

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Long shot

coral void Dec 16, 2019, 4:23 PM

#

>>> import sqlite3 as sq
>>> db = sq.connect(":memory:")
>>> c = db.cursor()
>>> c.execute("""
... create table GIVEAWAY (guild_id INT(50))""")
<sqlite3.Cursor object at 0x10a0701f0>
>>> c.execute("""PRAGMA table_info('GIVEAWAY')"""")
  File "<stdin>", line 1
    c.execute("""PRAGMA table_info('GIVEAWAY')"""")
                                                  ^
SyntaxError: EOL while scanning string literal
>>> c.execute("""PRAGMA table_info('GIVEAWAY')""")
<sqlite3.Cursor object at 0x10a0701f0>
>>> c.fetchall()_
  File "<stdin>", line 1
    c.fetchall()_
                ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>>> c.fetchall()
[(0, 'guild_id', 'INT(50)', 0, None, 0)]
>>> c.execute("""INSERT INTO GIVEAWAY VALUES (579053596310765600)""")
<sqlite3.Cursor object at 0x10a0701f0>
>>> c.execute("""SELECT * FROM GIVEAWAY""")
<sqlite3.Cursor object at 0x10a0701f0>
>>> c.fetchall()
[(579053596310765600,)]
>>> c.execute("""SELECT * FROM GIVEAWAY WHERE guild_id = 579053596310765600""")
<sqlite3.Cursor object at 0x10a0701f0>
>>> c.fetchall()
[(579053596310765600,)]

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:23 PM

#

Have we compared the two numbers directly to make sure we're not transposing a number somewhere?

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:24 PM

#

Nothing

#

yeah thats the issue

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:24 PM

#

Wait

#

Seriously?

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:24 PM

#

INSERT INTO GIVEAWAY VALUES(124,1251515,12521512,12512512,"guns"

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:24 PM

#

Back up, so the issue was that the numbers didn't actually match?

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:25 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

I can give you db file tho

royal lakeBOT Dec 16, 2019, 4:26 PM

#

Hey @rough sapphire!

It looks like you tried to attach a file type that we do not allow. We currently allow the following file types: .3gp, .3g2, .avi, .bmp, .gif, .h264, .jpg, .jpeg, .m4v, .mkv, .mov, .mp4, .mpeg, .mpg, .png, .tiff, .wmv.

Feel free to ask in #community-meta if you think this is a mistake.

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:26 PM

#

!e print(579053596310765600 == 579053596310765600)

royal lakeBOT Dec 16, 2019, 4:26 PM

#

@plucky ridge :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

True

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:26 PM

#

I'm at a loss then

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 4:26 PM

#

The laziness

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:26 PM

#

Laziness my ass, I typed that out by hand

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:27 PM

#

.bm 656170394876903444 hahahahah

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 4:27 PM

#

roothink

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:28 PM

#

AG, can you replicate it with channel_id or message_id?

#

I know you said time worked fine

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:28 PM

#

yes with channel_id

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 4:29 PM

#

Can we have a new OTname laziness-my-ass pleaaasssee

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 4:29 PM

#

My money is still on precision

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:29 PM

#

SELECT * from GIVEAWAY where message_id is 654945846944858100

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:29 PM

#

int(50) would imply that it's accurate up to 50 digits, right?

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:29 PM

#

returns NULL

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 4:29 PM

#

well, 50 bytes

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:29 PM

#

Use = not is

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:30 PM

#

^

#

SELECT * from GIVEAWAY where message_id = 654945846944858100

#

returns NULL

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:30 PM

#

same if you do message_id in backticks?

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:30 PM

#

yes

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:31 PM

#

What in the magical hell

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 4:31 PM

#

And with the id in backticks too

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:31 PM

#

What the number?

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:31 PM

#

like the no. ? @solid pollen

#

654945846944858100 message_id

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 4:31 PM

#

Yep

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:31 PM

#

You wouldn't want to do it with the number

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:31 PM

#

^

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 4:32 PM

#

The database is pretty strange, better safe than sorry

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:32 PM

#

The backtick ` is used in MySQL to delimit literals that represent identifiers (not strings). This allows you to use not usually accepted characters like spaces, reserved words, etc. as identifiers.

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 4:32 PM

#

Oh, quotes, my bad

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:32 PM

#

Error: no such column: 654945846944858100

#

if i do backticks

#

BTW file is made with sqlite3
but manual entry works fine as it should

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:34 PM

#

Can you confirm the datatypes for each column?

#

Now I'm all curious about all this

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:34 PM

#

INT INT INT INT VARCHAR

#

item is VARCHAR OFC

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:34 PM

#

Right

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:35 PM

#

should i download a sqlite viewer , maybe website is faulty

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:36 PM

#

https://sqlitebrowser.org/

DB Browser for SQLite

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:36 PM

#

Downloading 1 min left

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 4:38 PM

#

Why you don't just download the sqlite engine and do queries from it?

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:39 PM

#

sqlite engine ?

#

I am using sqlite3 library tho

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:40 PM

#

Why not make queries through that then

#

Although I will say, having a browser/viewer on hand does make quick checks pretty friggin' easy

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:42 PM

#

installing BTW

#

DB BROWSER

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:43 PM

#

I think if my PyCharm Pro license ever runs out I might snag that, honestly.

#

But as it stands, Pro has a built in DB viewer that's really handy

#

Bit unwieldy but eh

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 4:43 PM

#

Datalore, yeah

#

I like it

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:44 PM

#

That shitty installer stopped my windows explorer

#

Why is windows explorer ever do that conflicts installing

solid pollen Dec 16, 2019, 4:45 PM

#

Never had any problems with it

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:46 PM

#

Happens from time to time

#

Just run the query through Python, dude

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:46 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

📎 unknown.png

#

651468912587964485

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:47 PM

#

And those guild id's are also not the same

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:48 PM

#

huhh ?

#

!e
print(651468912587964485 == 651468912587964485)

royal lakeBOT Dec 16, 2019, 4:48 PM

#

Sorry, but you may only use this command within #bot-commands.

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:48 PM

#

g was right

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:48 PM

#

True

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:48 PM

#

It was a precision issue

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

@sand goblet

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

Compare the guild_id you have on the DB Browser to the one you had at that website

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

Can you elaborate your point

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

The website is rounding up to the 100's place for some reason

#

On all 3 of the id sections

#

Which explains why they all ended in 00

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

That's bizarre, I have never seen that

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

fucking bullshit site

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

@sand goblet Good call

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

Now it works

#

TADAHH

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

\o/

#

it's always floats

#

even when it's not floats

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:51 PM

#

Just makes me wonder why the site is showing it being rounded but obviously calculating it as if it's not

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 4:51 PM

#

floats make things sink, occasionally

#

You're probably not doing math on IDs anyway so strings are probably fine to work with

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

doing same now

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

True

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

Am doing it with time tho

plucky ridge Dec 16, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

There should be an actual date or time type, right?

sand goblet Dec 16, 2019, 4:53 PM

#

Yup

rough sapphire Dec 16, 2019, 4:53 PM

#

But i like this way if being honest

#

giveaway_channel = int(cur.fetchone())```