#ot1-perplexing-regexing

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languid kelp
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cancer

narrow comet
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I never noticed this

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that they're all named shell

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at the end

gentle moss
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you realise this isn't sarcasm

tulip palm
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@gentle moss hey i did that to my computer once :D it's always the best way to finish something off

languid kelp
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well i need to get a drink

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as in water

narrow comet
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@gentle moss yeah it isn't sarcasm

gentle moss
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it is a fun way to end the life of a VM or PC that you're gonna wipe

narrow comet
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obviously

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it's not that hard to tell

gentle moss
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it's not obvious with you, that was my frigging point. :P

narrow comet
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why not

tulip palm
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i can confirm that it isn't so obvious

narrow comet
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what is this

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why is it always a different issue on every server I join by the way

tulip palm
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i mean, sarcasm isn't easy to get on the internet in general :D

narrow comet
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hauehhahaueueue uh whehueuauwhehwhagwh

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yeah absolutely

languid kelp
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will plastic destroy us before AI destroys us

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please write a poll in python because i need answers

narrow comet
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no

tulip palm
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probably

narrow comet
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print(False)

vestal briar
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:)

tulip palm
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ValueError

narrow comet
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no it isn't

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print implicitly casts to str

tulip palm
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i was.. joking?

narrow comet
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what kind of a joke is that

vestal briar
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assert Joke

languid kelp
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what will jokes look like in 3000AD?

narrow comet
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doesn't count as a joke if it's not fun-

vestal briar
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AssertionError

narrow comet
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oh for crying out loud

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hypocrisy

tulip palm
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the joke was that your opinion of it being "False" was wrong. /shrug

vestal briar
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Word is overused has no effect like literally

languid kelp
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whats a good game to play in 2019

vestal briar
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Hmm

narrow comet
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@tulip palm oh you're right lmao

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I mixed up the two errors

vestal briar
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Any good game?

languid kelp
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strategy

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or

narrow comet
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valueerror is passing the right type but wrong value

languid kelp
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just something with some sense to it

tulip palm
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and you complain to us about not getting sarcasm or jokes :D

languid kelp
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not artristic

narrow comet
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typeerror is passing the wrong type

vestal briar
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Runescape original :)

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Gtg

narrow comet
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@languid kelp not artristic?

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you mean abstract?

languid kelp
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i once changed my OSRS password and forgot it and lost my account 😦 my original one

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life went down hill from there

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no i mean something i can get lost in but not so abstract that i need to put too much effort into it

narrow comet
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eh?

languid kelp
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something like a painkiller

terse heron
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Is it bad that for my GCSE’s (which is like a public exam) I have to do a 20 hour programming coursework task, and I finished it in 40minutes? 🤔

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Like I’ve now got 19 hours of scheduled time where I’m just gonna be sitting there

wet steppe
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a lot of GCSE’s are easy

terse heron
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I guess

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I mean computing and french I’m like 4-5 years ahead of my age

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Which is a weird combination of skills but 🤷

languid kelp
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welcome to the 1% club @terse heron

terse heron
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Lmfao

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;3

plucky ridge
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Alright, JavaScript question: Do JavaScript arrays suffer from the same speed issues that Python lists do when it comes to popping from the front or the middle of the list/array?

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By that I mean, if I have:

my_list = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
my_list.pop(0)

Then all of the numbers after the first one would have to be reindexed, which costs performance. That's a commonly known thing about it, but I can't seem to find any mention of whether or not JavaScript arrays suffer from the same thing

sand goblet
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yep

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you can't pop from the middle of an array though

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that's known as shifting in js

plucky ridge
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Gotcha

sand goblet
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popping is fast because it doesn't have to readdress the array

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JS can just remove 1 from the length of the array

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whereas if you remove an element from the middle of it, it has to readdress the array and invalidate all the references in it

plucky ridge
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Gotcha. So it does well acting as a deque?

sand goblet
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you shift from the left and pop from the right

plucky ridge
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Or only when dealing with FIFO like Python lists

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Pardon, LIFO I mean

sand goblet
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well I'm not sure about acting as a deque

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JS arrays have some really weird performance considerations

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array1.push(...array2) is around 945x faster than array1 = array1.concat(array2)

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despite essentially doing the same thing

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in firefox, .push is around 2260x faster

plucky ridge
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That's bizarre. Also, what site/setup is that?

sand goblet
plucky ridge
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That looks handy

sand goblet
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that's JSPerf

plucky ridge
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Neat

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Sweet, bookmarked

sand goblet
wet steppe
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so much faster wow

plucky ridge
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I feel like I'm enjoying JavaScript a lot more now that I've had a much more solid grasp on a language. Previously I was mostly a beginner trying to hop around different languages, but now that I have Python down, I'm understanding this so much better

sand goblet
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Yeah, JS requires a different method of braining

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Modern JS is a lot nicer than the old stuff you still see people using

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it's still not great compared to python, but yknow

narrow comet
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hi guys

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bue

plucky ridge
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The only reason Python is so clean is because they did the hard cut between 2 and 3

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I don't think JS will ever be able to do that

wet steppe
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JS is a lot nicer if you are using Typescript
and a framework like React

plucky ridge
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Honestly even just using vanilla and the modern stuff it's pretty good

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I'm much happier with it now than I was like 4 years ago

wet steppe
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I rly don't like dynamic typing tw

plucky ridge
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I'm not huge on it either but eh

lilac glade
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Jinja

wet steppe
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dynamic typing was a big trend
that is really starting to become smaller now

lilac glade
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I can tell you right now, my brain is not cut out for webdev in any capacity.

plucky ridge
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I'm just using it to fool around mainly

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Make an incremental game or something

lilac glade
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I have a domain I gotta populate with something

wet steppe
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I think people are realizing now that
the supposed increases to development speed
of dynamic timing aren't really worth it

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cos the "saved time" is lost due to increased debugging and error-fixing time

sand goblet
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you'll manage it, ref

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:P

lilac glade
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notlikethis I'm already halfway through Mozilla's runthrough and it still half-boggles my mind.

summer rampart
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ooh populate it with your experience trying to populate it

wet steppe
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Mozilla's runthrough?

plucky ridge
lilac glade
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Mozilla's runthrough takes you through the process of creating a Library page. What I might do is build off of that to host my small library of physical books in a more-than-slightly-legal digital manor.

plucky ridge
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I feel like it's a lot clearer than the MDN

sand goblet
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the MDN is a reference

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wouldn't use it for learning really

plucky ridge
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Fair

lilac glade
wet steppe
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its a bit dodgy but W3schools is nice

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its easier for beginners than MDN

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but W3schools sometimes had accuracy problems in the past

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its apparently mostly good now

sand goblet
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w3fools used to be full of problems and inconsistencies from w3schools

lilac glade
sand goblet
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w3s is never gonna get that reputation back in my mind

summer rampart
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time to w4s

wet steppe
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w5s

lilac glade
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Schools4W

stark prawn
gentle moss
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the power of cats

worldly grail
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that cat represents my bad implementation of code
and the people my mind

rough sapphire
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going to windows

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oh boy

vestal briar
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I want to learn tensorflow but lots of maths

full matrix
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Hello
Don't read this message:|| I TOLD YOU NOT TO READ THIS MESSAGE ||
99.9% of people will read it 😎

vestal briar
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Hello

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Dont ||spam||

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99.9% of you kind of people do it 😎

worldly grail
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||well played||

vapid bluff
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so stupid

gentle moss
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that is pretty fucking dumb

glass gorge
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Anyone know how to bridge wifi to ethernet on a manjaro XFCE machine?

gentle moss
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been quiet in here long enough

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Police were called to the home of Boris Johnson and his partner, Carrie Symonds, in the early hours of Friday morning after neighbours heard a loud altercation involving screaming, shouting and banging.

The argument could be heard outside the property where the potential future prime minister is living with Symonds, a former Conservative party head of press.

A neighbour told the Guardian they heard a woman screaming followed by “slamming and banging”. At one point Symonds could be heard telling Johnson to “get off me” and “get out of my flat”.```
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POTENTIAL FUTURE PRIME MINISTER OF THE UNITED KINGDOM

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right there

sand goblet
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So what do police actually have to say about this

gentle moss
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When contacted by the Guardian on Friday, police initially said they had no record of a domestic incident at the address. But when given the case number and reference number, as well as identification markings of the vehicles that were called out, police issued a statement saying: “At 00:24hrs on Friday, 21 June, police responded to a call from a local resident in [south London]. The caller was concerned for the welfare of a female neighbour.

“Police attended and spoke to all occupants of the address, who were all safe and well. There were no offences or concerns apparent to the officers and there was no cause for police action.”```
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The neighbour said they recorded the altercation from inside their flat out of concern for Symonds. On the recording, heard by the Guardian, Johnson can be heard refusing to leave the flat and telling Symonds to “get off my fucking laptop” before there is a loud crashing noise.

Symonds is heard saying Johnson had ruined a sofa with red wine: “You just don’t care for anything because you’re spoilt. You have no care for money or anything.”```
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rofl

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not uhhh... a great look before a tory party election?

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or, idk, maybe it's a good one

sand goblet
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If he doesn't get elected it might be

tired osprey
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@glass gorge there was a setting for that in NetworkManager iirc

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you can set an interface to "Shared"

glass gorge
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@tired osprey i set some setting

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Ill ping you tomorrow, i just left home...

tired osprey
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😄 sure

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"Im pressing buttons!"

glass gorge
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Yes

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I set ipv4 something to share to other

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Or something

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No idea

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I'm not. A smart man

tired osprey
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🤣

rough sapphire
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question

jagged fog
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42

narrow comet
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@jagged fog how's the bot going

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I'm trying to figure out how to take out a candle with my bare hands

jagged fog
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Started with a little idea now I have a whole freaking megasystem

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and I keep adding ideas

narrow comet
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well, good to storyboard first

jagged fog
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that's like the worst habbit to have

robust sierra
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habbit rabbit

jagged fog
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take out candle as in extinguish?

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just press the fire thingy with your fingers, but fast

tulip palm
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or flick it

worn kite
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or take out for dinner? 🤔

narrow comet
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@jagged fog you press the fire part?

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I pressed the wick and hurt myself the last time I tried

worn kite
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press faster

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or wet your fingers before

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or just blow first

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please nobody take that out of context 👀

narrow comet
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yeah that's so bad ooc

jagged fog
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@narrow comet if you're skilled you can do it without pain. It's not about pressing as it's about cutting of oxygen. You can also do it with wet/spit fingers for easy mode

narrow comet
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@jagged fog ye it's about cutting the oxygen

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I definitely didn't do it right

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I think what ended up happening is I pulled the wick into pieces and the fire died

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and the hot wick shards on my fingers didn't help matters at all

jagged fog
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oof

vestal briar
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:O impl is cool in rust

glass gorge
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With my wifi active, and Shared ethernet set to the ethernet networks

hasty stream
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OH greatttt teams

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i m looking forward for the jammm

gentle moss
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o_O

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not sure if troll or dumb

narrow comet
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@gentle moss you can never be sure if troll or dumb

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the wording seems suspicious to me

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could be troll

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it's stereotypical language

gentle moss
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quite.

languid kelp
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what is the meaning of that @gentle moss

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there wasn't even any sound

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i would have enjoyed hearing a splash

sand goblet
gentle moss
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oof

languid kelp
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maybe if you used linux?

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🤔

sand goblet
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..no?

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this has nothing to do with my setup

languid kelp
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why do you think your internet is having issues?

sand goblet
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I don't think, I know

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I have investigated

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And it's nothing to do with me

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But my ISP doesn't do support on the weekends

languid kelp
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that's... interesting..

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and unlucky

vestal briar
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I just have a big cheap data plan

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Use it when wifi dies

gentle moss
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ESXi 3.5, ESXi 4.x, ESXi 5.x and ESXi 6.x
Reinstalling the ESXi host is the only supported way to reset a password on ESXi.```
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we'll see about that

tired osprey
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@glass gorge the exacr same settings worked out for me several times 🤔

glass gorge
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Do i have to setup something on my windows desktop?

tired osprey
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For me it always connected automatically

glass gorge
gentle moss
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well that was easy and boring

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and now i'm without a DNS server

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yay

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started up the VMs like 45 minutes ago and i've still not got past windows updates

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-.-

languid kelp
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what are you trying to do

gentle moss
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boot windows.

languid kelp
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ok and so if you don't mind, why are you having trouble with what is normally a trivial thing?

summer rampart
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windows updates

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aka Blue Screen of Purgatory

sand goblet
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people have been bitching about 1903

summer rampart
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how bad is it?

sand goblet
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literally nobody I know has had issues with it though

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including me

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people are complaining of bad performance, FPS hitching, blue screens, all kinds of stuff

gentle moss
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yeah, it's windows updates disco

narrow comet
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1903? is that a year

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oh

gentle moss
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they take AGES on the server edition

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slow enough on the desktop

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oof, i'm still back on 1709

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:D

narrow comet
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wow, nobody was alive back then

gentle moss
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hmmm... seems liek i can't update my desktop machine

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oh well

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hey @sand goblet @tulip palm

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did you know limmy, yes that limmy, streams to twitch?

sand goblet
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who the heck is limmy?

gentle moss
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SHE'S TURNED THE WEANS AGAINST US

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it's just a pintah milk

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etc

narrow comet
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limmy?

gentle moss
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comedian.

narrow comet
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I hate the name

tulip palm
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ohh haha that's great

gentle moss
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just on a little bike through glasgow

tulip palm
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i love it

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hey @gentle moss gies yer laptop

gentle moss
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:D

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what a sign off

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"is it on? is it on? if it's on i'll say see ya later. see ya later. see ya later."

tulip palm
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haha yeah

gentle moss
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i've just seen something interesting about boris as PM

tulip palm
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oh dear, what?

gentle moss
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enough of the tory party might not like him enough

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leaving him with like a 3 seat majority

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if those 3 seats go bye bye

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the queen cannot make him PM

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constitutional crisis

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\o/

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i mean it's entirely possible that T.May is forced to stay on as PM

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which is weird, i'm not sure on the legality of forcing someone to do that job

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o_O

wet steppe
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its illegal for MPs to resign

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there's a really weird systeem

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for MPs who want to stop being MPs

gentle moss
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yes, but an MP

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is different to the PM

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she can resign as PM and still be an MP

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duh

narrow comet
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@wet steppe lawhacks

sand goblet
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oh boy

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time to warm up the ol' mentions

rough sapphire
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yep my cache is fucked

narrow comet
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@narrow comet Please see above for your Jackbox reminder.

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isn't it 5PM BDT gdude or does it not work like that

rough sapphire
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oh yeah, @gentle moss was an asshole with his submission, I remember now

narrow comet
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I'm dumb with timezones

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oh

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BST is summer time

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loalaksnaksjsoaodjfe

rough sapphire
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okay let's try this again

gentle moss
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what submission? ¬_¬

sand goblet
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the jackbox thing

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hold on

gentle moss
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oh the penis face?

sand goblet
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no, the form

gentle moss
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OH

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yeah, i remember now

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:D

sand goblet
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like I said before

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can't sanitise it myself

narrow comet
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what did you do bisque

vestal briar
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Why is this dude a weird lawyer in b99 and its always sunny

sand goblet
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hold on scowez

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I'm about to send a ton of mentions in here

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._.

vestal briar
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SIR YES SIR

sand goblet
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haha

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actually I dunno if I am now, got a dm from lemon

vestal briar
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(Also wifi recovered)

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Hah :P

summer rampart
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how many mentions were you planning?

sand goblet
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I've got 16 mentions, so that's 4 separate messages plus the actual reminder

narrow comet
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what'd lemon say

sand goblet
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oh it's okay, dw

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lemme get this out of the way, I hate doing it

narrow comet
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why

sand goblet
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because it feels like spamming

narrow comet
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you're only mass pinging

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everyone's done that

sand goblet
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that's not true :P

narrow comet
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oh

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damn

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uhh ignore previous statement

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/joke

sand goblet
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okay I'm doing it now

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if this doesn't work again I swear to heck

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For those of you that wanted a reminder for Jackbox, this is your reminder!

We will be starting Jackbox at 5PM BST (UTC+1), which is about 2 hours from now. To avoid spamming the server, I will not be giving you another reminder - so please set your own reminder on your phone or whatever if you plan on joining us. I advise that you show up on voice about 15 minutes before we begin, so we can go over the rules and what's going to happen, and make sure the stream is stable.

We will be using Mixer. The URL is https://mixer.com/gdude2002, but I'll repost that closer to the time in #voice-chat-text-0.

As there is a limit to the number of people I can ping, I've got to use multiple messages to do so - the below messages are to ping people that requested a reminder.

rough sapphire
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@rough sapphire @buoyant pendant @gentle moss @upper sierra: Please see above for your Jackbox reminder.

sand goblet
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@vapid bluff @lime jewel @rough sapphire @vestal briar: Please see above for your Jackbox reminder.

narrow comet
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hi

rough sapphire
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@solid wolf @tame pier @shell blade @lone otter: Please see above for your Jackbox reminder.

sand goblet
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@narrow comet @lilac glade @frozen current @robust leaf: Please see above for your Jackbox reminder.

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alright, that's it

vestal briar
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@sand goblet @rough sapphire @vestal briar SELFBOTS DETECTED

narrow comet
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uh oh selfbot detector is here and it's gonna heck you

rough sapphire
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get outta here

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no selfbots here

narrow comet
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!banne

frozen current
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I'm passing for today @sand goblet

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Family holiday

vestal briar
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@rough sapphire SENTIANT SELFBOT DETECTED

narrow comet
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why do I keep seeing names I recognise

sand goblet
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No worries, you don't have to RSVP anyway

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Have a good holiday \o/

narrow comet
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I swear I recognise this martmists character

sand goblet
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he's been here longer than you have

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so, yeah

robust leaf
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yo

narrow comet
sand goblet
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yo, did you read the message jakub?

narrow comet
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apparently all the dpy fricks are here too

robust leaf
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yh two hours from now

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right>

rough sapphire
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Yep, well, more like an hour and 50 mins now

robust leaf
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yh hahahha

narrow comet
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why is gdude's minion still here

rough sapphire
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Hey man

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I have my own life, okay?

sand goblet
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gunshot

vapid bluff
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you dont

sand goblet
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anyway, don't mind him

vapid bluff
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youre just a minion

narrow comet
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he's dead

vapid bluff
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do you pay your minions a living wage gdude

narrow comet
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notice how gdude shot his minion

vapid bluff
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is there a dental plan

narrow comet
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that's the joke

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he shot him

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that's why the minion isn't here any more

sand goblet
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I saw that troll typing in here and considered moving to ot0 tbh

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but this is a better place to spam

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lol

robust leaf
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btw so were going to vc?

lime jewel
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aaa i wanna come but i'll be at pride :c next time though :D

sand goblet
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Yeah, we'll be on voice

narrow comet
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I wanna come but I have no idea where I'll be

sand goblet
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No problem @lime jewel, have fun \o/

narrow comet
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is the next Jackbox on Sunday

sand goblet
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Come if you can make it, don't if ya can't

narrow comet
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or are they not gonna keep incrementing

sand goblet
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Still sticking with saturday for now

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it was saturday last time too

narrow comet
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oh

sand goblet
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good job

narrow comet
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Friday was test

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right

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ok

sand goblet
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yeah

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:P

narrow comet
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well I'll be there next Saturday for sure

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oh wait

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5PM?

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yeah I'm never going to be there again

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that's 6AM in NZ

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wait

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it's 4AM

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yup definitely not

sand goblet
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is NZ real

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well tbh that's why I wanted to do it on a saturday

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or, well, one of the reasons

narrow comet
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because you can stay up on a weekend?

sand goblet
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pretty much

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but I mean, not like you have to

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maybe you'll end up with someone closer to your timezone doing another jackbox shift someday

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that would be pretty dope actually

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cover everyone then

narrow comet
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if I had a computer that makes no sound, headphones, and a phone that doesn't make noise when you tap it... wait, I do

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hmmm

sand goblet
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Up to you, friendo

gentle moss
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man

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bureacrats are evil

sand goblet
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Yikes

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Also, hey bisk

gentle moss
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it's just her job to stand there and argue that toothbrushes / soap aren't require to keep people safe / sanitary in detention facilities

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but that's how boring true evil is

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yes g

sand goblet
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No, nothing, just hey

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:P

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Actually, there is something

gentle moss
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:D

sand goblet
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:P

gentle moss
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i've gotta go bury my dead rat

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but i'll be on later

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for sure

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hmmm

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has iran ever been invaded by the US?

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i'd be impressed if during my life time nearly every middle eastern country had been invaded by them

sand goblet
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All good, bisk

vestal briar
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My sisters gerbil died on her birthday :(

pine vector
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bisk, i don't think so. well, not as a direct "invasion". there was that coup... the only western "invader" i know of was the UK.
afterthought: also Macedonia (Alexander the Great).

vestal briar
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She was 7 at the time

gentle moss
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hmmm

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has to be within my lifetime though

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coups don't count i guess

grave phoenix
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What's happening in the voice channel?

narrow comet
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@grave phoenix jackbox

grave phoenix
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?

narrow comet
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@TheClonerx#6174 jackbox

robust sierra
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ping fail

narrow comet
#

@grave phoenix

sullen thorn
#

export GOROOT=/usr/local/go

#

if i wanna make this a permanent change, how do i do that?

narrow comet
#

this is bad

#

@sullen thorn zshrc

sand goblet
#

Put it in your bashrc

narrow comet
#

or bashrc

#

or whateverrc

#

that starts when you open a shell

sullen thorn
#

bashrc?

narrow comet
#

yes

#

what shell are you using anyway

sullen thorn
#

ah found it

#

bash

narrow comet
#

uhhh

#

my shift + esc isn't working

#

anyone know what that's about

sullen thorn
#

hit your keyboard a few times

narrow comet
#

okay I did ctrl + r

sullen thorn
#
# GO env variables
export GOROOT=/usr/local/go
export GOPATH=$HOME/doodspav/go
export PATH=$GOPATH/bin:$GOROOT/bin:$PATH
export CC=clang
export CCX=clang++
#

so can i just put that at the end of my .bashrc file?

narrow comet
#

ye

sullen thorn
#

ok sick 😃

#

why tf is jetbain's go ide white by default

narrow comet
#

white isn't so bad

gentle moss
tame terrace
#

@gentle moss freeeeebiiiird

#

the entire joni mitchell Mingus album

#

South Park theme song

#

sex in a pan by Bela fleck

#

dean town, baby

#

serious suggestion: Marvin Gaye

gentle moss
#

haaha

#

mingus

#

:P

#

nice bit of marvin

#

@tame terrace

#

what was that bass challenge thing

#

you sent ages ago

tame terrace
#

it was Dean Town

#

vulfpeck

gentle moss
#

okay now that i see this

#

totally doable

#

i'm only 2 minutes in though

#

the mistake most people probably make is doing 1-2 picking with the fingers

#

so it stresses the forearm

#

gotta learn from the master, geddy

#

use those finger tips as finger picks

#

remembering some of it would be hard, there's a lot

vapid bluff
#

do you want more prince

gentle moss
#

can if you like

#

i'm sorta lost for ideas

#

oh no wait i got one

#

rack up a few good prince tracks though

vapid bluff
#

ok gimme a few mins

#

ill post them in the twitch chat

#

some of them are nsfw

gentle moss
#

nsfw doesn't matter

pine vector
#

side-bar: pandora is killing it right now, for me. RTJ station, and it throws me Nas then Gang Star back-to-back. 👏

proper dune
#

@next sphinx being able to see source is not inherently a security vulnerability

#

The argument is actually that it's more secure to be open source

next sphinx
#

mmmmm

#

interesting.

wet steppe
#

Well there are surely ALOT.........video editors, photo editors, audio editors, frameworks, libraries, operating systems, virtual machines. etc etcGIMP is an open source photo editor
and Debian is an open source operating system
😃

proper dune
#

The reason that proprietary isn't open source generally is to maintain a commercial advantage

next sphinx
#

That's what i'm referring to

#

yep

#

GIMP, SHotcut, Audacity, etc etc

#

GPL\LGPL\BSD|MIT all the way lol

proper dune
#

Well yeah there's tons. Gimp, Krita, blender, audacity, Linux, virtual box, etc are all open source. They aren't known for being massive security vulnerabilities

next sphinx
#

What i was referring to is that commercial advantage though

#

You nailed it regarding that

proper dune
#

A lot of stuff that requires a commercial advantage either runs on a server (eg google, Facebook servers) or is a C/C++ application that's hard to disassemble and reverse engineer (Photoshop) or even if it isn't, is just too large to rewrite completely open source code for

#

Since most programmers have shitall knowledge about domain specific things

wet steppe
#

some open source stuff sells subscriptions for user and technical support

next sphinx
#

Yea, seen it

wet steppe
#

so the software is free but additional paid services are not

next sphinx
#

the metasploit thing for example

#

like two versions of something

proper dune
#

Fairly few programmers with understanding of enough signal and image processing to be able to rewrite Photoshop's many features for example since that knowledge is mostly electrical engineering

next sphinx
#

would like to study that electrical & electronics engineering

rough sapphire
#

why

next sphinx
#

I am fond of the field......still a highschooler.

rough sapphire
#

fond of the field won't get you through 4 years of EEE

next sphinx
#

Yep it won't.

#

I am somehow aware of the math and physics and the

rough sapphire
#

you might want to learn a little bit more about your options.. and decide if it's right for you

next sphinx
#

lab procedures and all the circuit stuff etc etc there

#

fond of that too. pretty fond of the math and physics thing especally.

proper dune
#

EE is pretty great. Why ask him to reconsider? I don't think people here would ask people to reconsider CS

next sphinx
#

well I somehow get why he said that though

proper dune
#

Engineering has given me a LOT I wouldn't have gained if I did CS

wet steppe
#

TBH I would guess that for work
a lot of companies would not care between EE and CS?

#

both have programming modules

rough sapphire
#

I'm not asking him to reconsider.. just to make sure his motivations are correct..

next sphinx
#

EEE is one of the hardest if not the hardest engineering
discipline

rough sapphire
#

yep.. it is

proper dune
#

Software companies wouldn't. Hardware companies would

#

Eh

wet steppe
#

if you want "hard and impressive"
you want pure maths

proper dune
#

EE will beat pure maths in course load easily

#

It's hard because of workload, not because of content

next sphinx
#

Won't satisfy my desire for physics/computers/electronics/etc though

#

I thought of a math/physics double major....but meh too farfetched

#

And math/physics major aren't the best financially wise

#

ina third-world country like me

proper dune
#

Liking maths, physics, etc is more than enough right motivation to do EEE

next sphinx
#

in a

wet steppe
#

maybe study physics yeah
cos they will do a mixture of engineering stuff and math stuff

proper dune
#

Physics will do pretty much no engineering stuff

next sphinx
#

I'm starting to really like this server

proper dune
#

There's a physics server and an electrical engineering you might enjoy also. Full disclosure: I admin both

next sphinx
#

I actually joined them before this one

proper dune
#

Ah nice

next sphinx
#

Not sure though if i joined the exact one you're admin in

proper dune
#

Seemed to have

next sphinx
#

but i'm still somehow "handicapped" by my limited knowledge of any

#

of them

proper dune
#

You'll learn :P you can learn very quickly when tossed into a community full of people who know a lot just by reading and looking stuff up as they talk

#

That's how I learnt programming

wet steppe
#

you can learn just by being in a discord

next sphinx
#

I was a big fan of learning by doing.....in fact i was a fan of only that

wet steppe
next sphinx
#

but it really seems being in this server has ALOT of perks

wet steppe
#

there's a discord server for most languages now

proper dune
#

I'm not a fan of the "learning by doing" thing. It only really applies to things where there's little to no theory like programming

#

Crafts rather than sciences

#

It gets abused somewhat

wet steppe
#

can't do physics without million dollar equipment 😦

next sphinx
#

doing doesn't necessarily means "doing", practice, exercises, etc

rough sapphire
#

I learnt most of my eee courses by doing..

next sphinx
#

going back and forth to references etc

rough sapphire
#

didn't get to do DSP, which ended up being my second average subject:v

next sphinx
#

doing in my dictionary is broad

proper dune
#

If practice and exercises are included, then yeah

next sphinx
#

There also one thing that caught my attention and speaing of the "most languages" thing

#

i see some people talking about learning programming not programming languages

#

like.....what's that about?

wet steppe
#

I guess they mean theoretical algorithms and stuff

next sphinx
#

Guess so.

proper dune
#

@next sphinx languages are a bit meaningless to learn

#

They're mostly similar

#

The hard part isn't learning the language

#

That's just memorising the syntax and quirks

#

The hard part is learning how to organise your code and how to do things using it. That's a craft that you hone as you get better

wet steppe
#

some people jump between language a lot

#

especially our parent's generation

#

cos back in the 80's languages kept becomming obselete 😄

proper dune
#

I still change languages tons. I assume a lot of people who do stuff that transcends a particular language or stack do also

next sphinx
#

but "using" languages implies "learning" programming or at least getting the hang of it, no?
I basically construct functions, etc etc when using a language for anything right?

wet steppe
#

my friend is on an internship with a ton of legacy code
the company systems are spread over like 15 languages apparently lmao

next sphinx
#

lol

wet steppe
#

cos stuff kept being added over the years

tired osprey
#

that sounds exactly like my company

#

they use "whats around and what we like"

wet steppe
#

Big OOF

narrow comet
#

divine programming, learn paradigms and memorize languages

#

yes, programming must be divined, deal with it

wet steppe
narrow comet
#

I divined it at the age of 8 months when my eyes turned yellow and I began chanting about magic numbers and spaghetti code

#

the beginning

wet steppe
#

coding is an anime

proper dune
#

Y'all kiddos doing programming when you're young, I didn't start until I started uni

narrow comet
#

Python is the young kid addicted to drugs that every anime has

tired osprey
#

what did you waste your time on before then rags

rough sapphire
proper dune
#

Mostly because my interest was maths and physics rather than software

#

:P

narrow comet
#

I started at like idk I can pick a random number and have it be valid

#

12

rough sapphire
#

i started at 3 years

wet steppe
#

Lego Mindstorms

proper dune
#

My HS time was wasted on learning differential equations to solve simple quantum questions

narrow comet
#

I like to write down BS math

#

like saying 0 = 1 and then proving for all x and y x = y

#

ig that isn't BS

#

but whatever

tired osprey
#

that sounds like a friend of mine who was bored in ....8th or 9th grade of physics

#

rags's part

narrow comet
#

have you guys ever heard of the itjustmakessense operators?

#

1 ++ 2 = 4

tired osprey
#

Im sure you can tweak a plus in a special group in a way that this equation is correct

proper dune
#

1++2 = 12

#

Ez

narrow comet
#

2 *+ 3 = 12

#

silly

tired osprey
#

hey rags

narrow comet
#

wait no

#

it's 10

#

2 +* 3 is 12

tired osprey
#

we should change c's ++ from increment to concat

narrow comet
#

why

proper dune
#

Yes, exactly

narrow comet
#

what language even uses ++ for concat, Haskell?

tired osprey
#

well as rags just demonstrated that makes much more sense

proper dune
#

Wait can you overload operator++ in CPP?

narrow comet
#

Haskell has ++

tired osprey
#

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

narrow comet
#

yes but it's unary

tired osprey
#

aaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwww

proper dune
#

Ah shit

#

Didn't think of that

tired osprey
#

and rust doesnt have ++

narrow comet
#

just use Haskell you tools, you're clever bois that know FP I'm sure

proper dune
#

Haskell is lit

narrow comet
#

"you tools" "you're clever bois" you see kids, I can't logic

#

@proper dune ok then try proving a \/ (Not a) in Haskell

#

you can't do it

tired osprey
#

what even is that operator

proper dune
#

Lol logic

#

@tired osprey essentially or

narrow comet
#

not essentially

#

it is or

tired osprey
#

is that supposed to be the v thingy from math

narrow comet
#

it's supposed to be the logical conjuction operator

#

disjunction

proper dune
#

Yes it is

tired osprey
#

i see

#

why not just v?

proper dune
rough sapphire
#

hey man.. did you make it back home yet @narrow comet

#

I like Go's logo.. about the only thing I like..

#

more I study Go, more I appreciate Java o.o

proper dune
#

Literally this

tired osprey
#

rust does that?

#

the facebook part

wet steppe
#

there's a golang python lol

rough sapphire
#

omg I smoked weed once XD

wet steppe
rough sapphire
#

golang python? wut?

#

grumpy? that's shit..

#

rust, python and elixir. elixir?

tired osprey
#

there is also RustPython

#

elixir is cool

#

elixir is the new erlang

rough sapphire
#

i want learn elixir

tired osprey
#

which you will certainly know

rough sapphire
#

i'm suposed to have 6 months

tired osprey
#

to be honest ive found it much easier to do something useful in oss for rust than in python

#

mainly because the rust ecosystem is so damn unfinsihed

wet steppe
#

if you want easy OSS contributions then make node stuff

tired osprey
#

no

narrow comet
#

@tired osprey Haskell's operators have to be comprised of special chars to answer your previous question

#

\/ is, v isn't

#

@rough sapphire I fly in 2 nights

tired osprey
#

fly where

narrow comet
#

technically tomorrow it's past midnight

#

home

tired osprey
#

from where

rough sapphire
narrow comet
#

@tired osprey UK

tired osprey
#

so

narrow comet
#

I've been here for like

tired osprey
#

youre bored in vacation?

narrow comet
#

2 months 3 weeks now

#

I was supposed to be here for a month

#

so yes

tired osprey
#

that is really sad

narrow comet
#

not like I have anything to do on "vacation"

tired osprey
#

you could go annoy joe, sharp or juan

#

or g

narrow comet
#

why would I annoy those people

tired osprey
#

the better question is

#

why wouldnt you

narrow comet
#

why wouldn't I

tired osprey
#

exactly

#

ther eis no reason

#

2 seconds after i mention him joph sends me random characters

#

followed by hairy egg animations

narrow comet
#

who's joseph

proper dune
#

me

rough sapphire
#

#metoo

narrow comet
#

I don't believe that for one second

tired osprey
#

@bleak lintel

rough sapphire
#

it's me

narrow comet
#

you've done it now

tired osprey
#

yes

proper dune
#

e

tired osprey
#

a

bleak lintel
#

what

#

nix what are you doing 😠

rough sapphire
#

Bad idea

narrow comet
#

ok time for proofs in Haskell we're doing that now I'm gonna prove transivity for implication

bleak lintel
#

man you are such a silly shrew soimetimes nix

tired osprey
#

well i said something about you

#

and a second later you dm me random characters

bleak lintel
#

nix uses haskell

rough sapphire
#

he's a boy genius.. who's also a owner.. I wish I was a boy genius

proper dune
#

E is the greatest meme to ever exist. It contains so much irony that in order to truly understand its overwhelming complexity takes twenty to thirty minutes. The first time I saw E in April, I needed a moment to regain my composure after one of the hardest laughing fits I ever encountered sent me to the floor. On top of the mash up of lord faarquad and markiplier, two already very dank figures due to different reasons (the knock on effect of Shrek/all star and YouTube drama respectively), the deep fried nature adds to the irony of the image. However, that is just the fuel. The spark of the memes unfathomable amount of humor comes from its simplest element. The single letter E, in its impact font glory. On top of impact font being an extremely dank format when deep fried due to its high irony, the single letter E surpasses all other possible captions due to the simple fact that the letter E is able to not only shine a window into how memes have become so meta that a single letter is hilarious, but also because the simplicity of it is able to bring out an extra level of humor due to how absurd it is. E is an absolute masterpiece and should be rendered as such.

tired osprey
#

no im not

bleak lintel
#

oh that was actually coincidence

tired osprey
#

@bleak lintel even if i was @proper dune would love me for it

narrow comet
#
proof = flip (.)
#

who loves it

bleak lintel
#

i just tthought oh nix i haven;t spoen with nix in a while!

next sphinx
#

speed reading rocks

bleak lintel
#

no shitpost copypastas.

narrow comet
#

are you okay joe

bleak lintel
#

i am brilliant

narrow comet
#

you seem to be having difficulties typing

#

is all

bleak lintel
#

macbook

tired osprey
#

those two usually cancel out

narrow comet
#

say no more

proper dune
#

Speaking of functional programming

narrow comet
#

I'm tryna sleep rn

proper dune
#

I'm doing the Data61 fp course given by tony Morris!!

#

10-12 July

#

Gonna be lit

narrow comet
#

I have no idea what that is!!

tired osprey
#

what is an fp course and whats a tony morris

narrow comet
#

functional programming course

bleak lintel
#

thanks nix

tired osprey
#

which brings us to

proper dune
tired osprey
#

whats a tony morrison

#

and even more interesting

#

can you eat it

narrow comet
#

who doesn't love a little bit of pointfree?

tired osprey
#

by the way

rough sapphire
#

there's a folder here called Nix.. tagged nothing works lol

narrow comet
#

(.) (.) is valid Haskell code thank Haskell later

proper dune
#

He leads QFPL

tired osprey
#

has anyone else been getting advertisements for verifcation of Space Wire Bus system based embedded systems on you tube recently

narrow comet
#

nope

tired osprey
#

i seem to have a very spcific taste for google then

#

up until that point i didnt event know that was a thing

rough sapphire
#

thought they did away with targeted ads after that eu thing.. what's it called

tired osprey
wet steppe
tired osprey
#

you see I am simply everywhere

#

in fact I am the course

rough sapphire
#

so meta..

tired osprey
#

ikr

proper dune
rough sapphire
#

open_pod_bay_doors()

tired osprey
#

i recently saw a social media photo by another group in a competition im participating in

#

they basically got themselves a desktop wiht a haskell logo and a hexdump on the screen without any explanation

#

i really have to work on my impression skills

proper dune
#

Haskell and hexdump don't generally go together 👀

tired osprey
#

yeah

#

so basically

#

they had the genious idea to test their i2c based pressure sensor by going into an elevator

#

and reading raw bytes form the i2c bus

wet steppe
#

lol nice

tired osprey
#

also note, he is logged in as root

wet steppe
#

he looks like a redditor

tired osprey
#

how does one look like a redditor

proper dune
#

Raggy good advice day: you should believe in yourself and what you do and therefore always be logged in as root

#

Sudo is for chumps

tired osprey
#

10 minutes later rags accidentally executes malware on his pc as root an looses his data forever

wet steppe
#

bye data

proper dune
#

Oh please, I wouldn't accidentally execute malware. I would do it on purpose

#

I believe in myself

rough sapphire
#

Is a good idea use elixir just to learn the functional paradigm?

tired osprey
#

right sorry

bleak lintel
#

yes

#

elixir awesome

rough sapphire
#

ok, thanks

tired osprey
#

i was thinking of writing a lkm rootkit in rust the other day

proper dune
#

Yeah elixir is aight to learn FP

tired osprey
#

but then i got distracted

#

i always get distracted

proper dune
#

I know a couple who learnt that way

bleak lintel
#

erlang and elixir are fantastic

wet steppe
#

time to shill Elm 😄

rough sapphire
#

just learn java and be awesome nope_py

bleak lintel
#

i tried elm once

#

it scared me

proper dune
#

Too many E languages

wet steppe
#

if you know JS already
Elm is literally takes a week to get okay at 😄

#

its very friendly

#

nice compiler errors too

proper dune
#

Learn rust

tired osprey
#

guys how do i get less distracted if i have bad ideas?

proper dune
wet steppe
#

Rust scares me

tired osprey
#

:someonesaidrust: except that i cant do this emoji

bleak lintel
#

yeah but i know js and i fucking hate it man

proper dune
#

Lol I also get distracted

rough sapphire
#

bad ideas about what?

proper dune
bleak lintel
#

i took the day off work when we had to do JS

wet steppe
#

JS is okay if you are doing React/Vue with Typescript

bleak lintel
#

we have sick days for a reason

#

typescript also annoys me

wet steppe
#

F

bleak lintel
#

so i just use webasm now 😎

tired osprey
#

compile rust to wasm joe

#

thats the way

#

wasm-unknown-none

bleak lintel
#

exactly nix

tired osprey
#

waut

#

no

#

wasm-none-unknown

wet steppe
#

write wasm manually :bigthonk:

tired osprey
#

alternatively you odnt

bleak lintel
#

spider on my wall

#

the tturtles have rockets

#

they are on rockets

tired osprey
#

classic

bleak lintel
#

oh! the spdier!

#

it has a web!

#

i did not see that before

tired osprey
#

its very uncommon

bleak lintel
#

😠

tired osprey
#

what

bleak lintel
#

yeah

narrow comet
#

@tired osprey do the bad ideas

#

now it's 2:23, what? why?

tired osprey
#
  • 1 hour
narrow comet
#

it was an hour ago last time I checked, an hour ago

tired osprey
#

i succesfully and unintendly moved my sleeping schedule to 5 am a week ago

narrow comet
#

I'm restless

#

bleh

#

tomorrow is not even a big day it's just a 4 hour car journey

tired osprey
#

sounds fun

#

you wanna learn rust until then and help me so we're less bored

rough sapphire
#

5 am seems bad

#

usually i sleep 1 am

tired osprey
#

not if you dont have anything to do until september my friend

rough sapphire
#

oh boy

#

nothing?

narrow comet
#

how about not that

tired osprey
#

i mean im spending my time on one project mostly

narrow comet
#

the best way to sleep is do things late at night

tired osprey
#

trying to not pick up work on the three others I have in mind now

rough sapphire
#

good

tired osprey
#

because i want to focus

#

scratch that its 4

narrow comet
#

then you don't get new energy from anything

rough sapphire
#

i revise my mind maps 1 hour before sleeping

#

is a good deal

narrow comet
#

it just goes down the drain until you're tored

#

lots of blue light

#

high brightness setting

#

make your eyes suffer

#

you'll sleep better

#

mind maps?

rough sapphire
#

yup

#

they are not very good, but i'm trying

narrow comet
#

what's a mind map

rough sapphire
#

oh

#

this

narrow comet
#

nice

rough sapphire
#

mine are not that big, but is a insterenting way to "learn" things

narrow comet
#

try build one in your mind

rough sapphire
#

Of course. Can you see all the confusion?

worldly grail
wet steppe
#

lol yeah i saw

worldly grail
#

its "high a f"

rough sapphire
#

what's a high f

wet steppe
#

1396.91Hz

rough sapphire
#

Hello code friends

tame terrace
#

yes hi @rough sapphire

rough sapphire
#

Yes! I'll be having a lot of questions.. especially on for loops

tame terrace
#

well then you're in the right place

rough sapphire
#

Great! Thx for the future help

#

upcoming assistance

languid kelp
#

lemon, if you change your name, does that mean i can @ you?

#

i guess a name change doesn't really mean much in this context, nvm

narrow comet
#

1 day to flight

#

2 days to arrival

#

5 days to Mario Maker 2

gentle moss
#

hey @sand goblet

#

i found some interesting salad recipes

sand goblet
#

Ah, hey, it's bisk

#

Oh god

gentle moss
sand goblet
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Wtf

gentle moss
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this one is uhhh

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yeah

sand goblet
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I mean really salad is just ingredients in a bowl

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Pizza salad best salad

gentle moss
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:D

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okay now we're getting somewhere

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gotta have marshmallows in my salad

rough sapphire
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what's scalded milk

gentle moss
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cooked milk

rough sapphire
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@kind gorge Noticed your site doesn't need
<script src="https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.12.0/jquery.min.js"></script>
or
<script src="http://maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/bootstrap/3.3.6/js/bootstrap.min.js"></script>

kind gorge
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@rough sapphire Thanks for the awareness 😃 It doesn't really do anything, other than host my nick.

rough sapphire
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Figured I'd point it out

kind gorge
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Thanks though

narrow comet
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woah

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you're a site

kind gorge
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🤣 ye

rough sapphire
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The future is weird, idn't it?

kind gorge
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The idea is "when I get myself together" that the site, displays all my stats, from the various games I play

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So the backend will continuously scrape / query api's with my player data.

rough sapphire
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KD: 1/8315

kind gorge
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hahaha very much indeed.

rough sapphire
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Surprised you didn't make a Donkey Kong fan site at mynameis.dk

narrow comet
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DK

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Donkey Kong

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he's the leader of the bunch you know him well

kind gorge
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I would, if my parents had bought me the SuperNintendo as a child. So I haven't played DK enough to make a fan site for it lol

rough sapphire
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You mean you never played the best of the series, Donkey Konga?

kind gorge
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It's the country Denmark

narrow comet
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super Mario maker 2 hype just interjecting into the convo to say that

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June 28th baybee

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5 days

rough sapphire
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Super Mario Maker is trash tho

narrow comet
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tell ya friends

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@rough sapphire you're dead to me

kind gorge
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I only played Donkey Kong Country

narrow comet
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simple as that

rough sapphire
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@narrow comet Switch exclusive, and the Switch is garbage

narrow comet
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you have my permission to leave the server at your earliest convenience

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first the VR thing

kind gorge
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Heard rumors that an updated switch might be released soon

narrow comet
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but now you hate on the Switch

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@kind gorge it's very likely true

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true

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a mini one

kind gorge
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Switch Pro

rough sapphire
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VR just isn't that great outside of military/medical/training

narrow comet
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nah it's Switch Mini

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don't talk to me any more about games mmk Scott