ot1-perplexing-regexing

[dusky orchid]

probably. I like to make my own though

or tweak existing ones

https://github.com/StylishThemes/GitHub-Dark

[summer cape]

oh

oh also I was trying to implement dashboard or web admin interface for my discord bot using d.py, was confused how I would tie my flask app to bot

actually, I can get guild and other data from flask and update the settings customised by guild admins directly to the database

but I am confused how I would update the bot's cached guild settings

[dusky orchid]

yeah, i was about to say it's common to use a shared resource like db to do things

[summer cape]

I thought of using redis but I can pickle limited objects only

[dusky orchid]

if you use something like postgres, it actually supports certain event triggers

[summer cape]

oh

was using mongodb

tho it's really fast and can also act like cache but still not suitable to query it under on_message event lol

[dusky orchid]

it's better to have a proper cache for oft-accessed settings

as in a real dict, etc

things like prefixes included

[summer cape]

oh also say I want guild icon url from flask app, would diosdiscord oauth provide it or I would have to use my bot token->login and then get it's icon using my bot client

yeah I am using dict for prefixes

[dusky orchid]

you'd just use oauth data

[summer cape]

oh means that will provide most of info I will need

[dusky orchid]

with the right access, it'll give you access to guild ids

[summer cape]

so main issue is to change the cached settings

[dusky orchid]

and from there you can get generally public info

yeah, just find a way to get the bot to detect the change event

[summer cape]

oh I see

lol once websockets came to my mind but realized theyre async also

hmm so if anyhow I can get that admin updated settings from dashboard, I can update my cache from db

[dusky orchid]

yep.

i can only use pg as an example since that what i use

but for example we use connection.add_listener to listen to an event

when it's emitted by the db the callback is run

[summer cape]

or I thought of an alternate idea...

what if I use aiohttp web server in my bot and send/receive events from flask app

as in basic HTTP/REST

but aio server might hinder but performance? since they will be using same event loop

[dusky orchid]

if you mean for a type of basic api, it's possible to do

[summer cape]

yeah just kinda basic post request from flask server to tell bot to update prefix cache of this guild id

[gentle moss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXoDP24WTiQ

:D

[dusky orchid]

i don't have that bacon though

[gentle moss]

i like to try all types of bacon

norway had really good bacon

lamb bacon no less

[dusky orchid]

odd choice

[gentle moss]

surprisingly tasty

[dusky orchid]

is their normal bacon like american bacon though

[gentle moss]

ofc

[dusky orchid]

til

[gentle moss]

we call "american bacon" streaky bacon

in the UK

[dusky orchid]

i had no idea that it has an alternate name

apparently we actually have that here

[gentle moss]

cuz it's streaks

[dusky orchid]

ye

our normal bacon isn't like us bacon

hmmmmm, kinda looks closer to uk bacon apparently

but i think our rashers are longer

uk bacon looks like shortcut bacon

[gentle moss]

it's kinda like that

[dusky orchid]

if we get full rashers, it's .... long

[gentle moss]

like the best of both worlds

so you get the streaky bit AND the medallion

[dusky orchid]

i have to admit, i prefer the round

probs heresy for bacon eaters

but i'm not a fan of super fatty bacon

[gentle moss]

lean bacon is nice

[dusky orchid]

canadian bacon looks interesting though

have you tried it too?

is it just thicker sliced smoked ham? kinda looks like it

[gentle moss]

looks like taylor pork or w/e

[sand goblet]

Oh that video just came up in my subscriptions

10/10 video

[gentle moss]

covers bacon pretty good

[tame terrace]

@gentle moss liar

that was turkey bacon and I'm pretty sure mutton bacon isn't a thing.

okay so that's totally a thing and it's called Macon but you did not have it in norway.

it does not look okay with me

[sinful copper]

it looks like meat, what's the issue

[tame terrace]

it doesn't look like bacon, that's the issue.

[vestal briar]

OH ffs

Because I am not in the USA, it's a "security error"

[tired osprey]

you are the security error

[hollow light]

why oldie like me get bullied by 14 year olds for being a python noob

[tired osprey]

The question is why people get bullied by people for being bad at python in general, I don't mind age and Id doubt they do either

[vestal briar]

Mm

Yeah :/

[sullen thorn]

I copied this

And it pasted this



Someone explain

[gentle moss]

i swear we had another type of bacon

that was not pig or turkey

i can be remembering wrong

[vapid bluff]

kevin?

[rough sapphire]

@still spire i have no idea what that does, but it doesn't look like python

awk is a tool for text processing, so it looks like it's probably something to do with text and adding 4 to something

some context would be helpful though...

[still spire]

yeah i it is bash code

i dint see there was #unix

[rough sapphire]

can you post the full code? there's an extra ' there

[still spire]

so i have a piece of code written by my previous person.

this is the whole code

```COUNTER_SUM_TABLE_CONFIG=awk -F\| '{s+=$4}END{print s}' CONTROL_TOTALS.txt

Control_Totals is a pipe delimited file.

lemme show u a sample of that

1|CTL_SRC_FILE|51|1
2|CTL_WRAPPER_BU|53|1

i am assuming $4 means 4th field in the file

so is it adding all the values in 4th column in the file?

[rough sapphire]

...from a quick test, it looks like it is

[still spire]

yeah i just checked that too

[rough sapphire]

using your sample data but only changing the fourth numbers, it adds all of the values in the 4th column

[still spire]

yeah

[rough sapphire]

1|CTL_SRC_FILE|51|15
2|CTL_WRAPPER_BU|53|12
``` outputs 27

[still spire]

i am assuming {print s} just stores the value of $4 in s and then increments it

[rough sapphire]

i would think that prints s...

[still spire]

oh yeah my b.

[rough sapphire]

{s+=$4} probably adds the value $4 (the value in the fourth column) to s

[still spire]

quite primitive way of implementing counters.

[rough sapphire]

and then -F\| means it splits on |, the \ prevents bash from interpreting it as a pipe

i guess

[still spire]

yeah checked on AWK manual. -F means field seperator

[rough sapphire]

and if you change it and do $1 or $3, it sums those columns

[still spire]

mhmm checked that just now too

[rough sapphire]

$2 just prints 0 for some reason

[still spire]

cos it is a text field i suppose

[cosmic quiver]

@sullen thorn that codepoint is in the private use area so I'm guessing the way musescore(?) does copy pasting bars is through emojis somehow

[sullen thorn]

Oh - but it’s from a pdf

(Also dorico)

Wait the fish codepoint is private use? Why is it a fish then? I thought fish was an emoji and in non private area

[cosmic quiver]

It's jsut your computer rendering it as a fish

It's not really any symbol

It can be literally anything

Because it's in the private use area

[stark prawn]

The font used includes the fish at that codepoint.

[plucky ridge]

sounds fishy to me

[glass gorge]

Hey me!

[sullen thorn]

oh lol ok

[sullen thorn]

Just saw that joke, fking amazing hemlock 😂😒

[odd bolt]

can ubuntu be installed on a partition to dual boot on the 2018 macs? or not?

[sand goblet]

You'd install it with bootcamp

[odd bolt]

apparently it doesnt work with the new chips?

hmm

finding mixed reviews

[undone pine]

[rough sapphire]

i'm pretty spanish yeah

[rugged vapor]

Why the fck is Norway mentioned regularly in this channel?

Scandinavians here?

[proper dune]

lemonboi is Norwegian

[sand goblet]

quite a lot of european users on this server

[vestal briar]

A suprising amount

[gentle moss]

norway is love

norway is life

[tame pier]

/r/hmm

Red is Python 3.6, Purple is 3.7

[shy aspen]

bad update maybe?

[halcyon siren]

am i missing something? what's surprising about a newer version getting more downloads over time?

[tame pier]

Over the span of a month and a half is rather unusual, at least to me

Generally these things are gradual

[shy aspen]

oh, i read it backwards. thought it declined

[heady gazelle]

Okay, so just to be clear, the whole thing with all the staff actually being one person was an April fool's joke, right?

[shell blade]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-sad-dissappointed-shocked-melissamccarthy-gif-5345929

[halcyon siren]

Ah, I haven't followed/seen any sort of previous download #s/rates for python updates let alone any language

interesting then

[rough sapphire]

Momo? Twice?

[tame pier]

@halcyon siren https://pypistats.org/packages/get-mac

[proper dune]

@tame pier Maybe not a lot of people use the package directly but theres another package people do use that has it as a dependency and when that package updated to python 3.7, people could finally start using it?

[tame pier]

That's my guess

Something upstream from me moved to 3.7 as the primary means of distribution

Woah

Wonder if it was the Kali 2019 release

Since 3.7 is now the default

Huh

[proper dune]

also possible

[sand goblet]

Hey @gentle moss, I heard the EU offered the UK another extension

you think it'll mean anything? :P

[gentle moss]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sand goblet]

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/04/05/may-claims-asylum-in-ecuadorian-embassy-in-london/

[dusky orchid]

really

isn't that a bit of an over-reaction?

[sand goblet]

That site is satire

But it is pretty believable, isn't it

:P

[dusky orchid]

wew

got me, i can't keep up with all the satire anymore

the worst part is that it's in the realm of possibility

[sand goblet]

Yeah, that's why I like this site :P

[rough sapphire]

I don't understand the high markup on 'limited' sneakers..

or sneakers in general..

[sand goblet]

Oh that's really easy to explain

It's simple: Money.

[plucky ridge]

People are willing to pay for it

That's all the reason they need

[rough sapphire]

lol yes.. that's what I dont understand.. like.. why

[sand goblet]

Yup

[rough sapphire]

why would you pay $$ for sneakers

$$$

[plucky ridge]

-shrugs- Same reason people are willing to pay $99 for a game just for the added extra skin when you could get it for $60

Just depends on what you're in to

[dusky orchid]

mmmmmm skin

[rough sapphire]

hmmm.. makes sense.. Just haven't met anyone that into sneakers I guess... lol

[plucky ridge]

Nor I, but it takes all kinds to make a world

[dusky orchid]

i feel like it's the opposite

"a world takes all kinds"

[oak tangle]

Oh, Nice, whisky

[dusky orchid]

i know this is a saying, but for some reason my bad brain is like "it's a world regardless of diversity"

and now my brain is in another area that nobody cares about

but it's there

[oak tangle]

You're just going all philosophical on us, that's fine

[dusky orchid]

lol

[fresh glade]

yaya @rare pivot how did you get it?

[dusky orchid]

@fresh glade please don't ping someone across three channels

[fresh glade]

i was haxxing him br4, trynna get me some max adress keys to haxx0rz h1s ISP or t3l3c0m pr0v1d3r! geeeeeeez

@dusky orchid

[dusky orchid]

i have no idea what you're saying

[fresh glade]

me neither bro , dont worry

[dusky orchid]

srsly though, try not hog all the ot's lol

[fresh glade]

i was replacing letters with numbers , 0 = o , 1 = i, 3 = e, 4 = a

@dusky orchid why can't i use 3 channels btw?

[stark prawn]

Where do bra's fit in?

[fresh glade]

@stark prawn Titties

but it's the other way around

[dusky orchid]

@fresh glade if it's all for the same thing, it's just spam

stick to one, we're good

[fresh glade]

no it isn't - i didn't know which of the 3 i should've posted in ... now i do! 😄

[dusky orchid]

doesn't matter, stick to one, ask when they reply

[fresh glade]

plus im in the other channel with cubiss now , just also talking here at the same time - that's cool right? @dusky orchid

[dusky orchid]

ik, i seen

[fresh glade]

how did you notice? is the bot made for picking up double posts across multi channels? @dusky orchid

if not, it's easy to make i think

[dusky orchid]

no, i used my hobbit eyes

also you can talk in multiple channels all you want

[fresh glade]

cool, people still use their senses in your generation

the rest lost them because of mass-hypno devices

[dusky orchid]

they just can't be all the same convo/message

my generation? what's my generation?

lol

[fresh glade]

i don't know - the one you grew up in 😛 i'm from 89' so that makes me a 90's kid haha

[dusky orchid]

then we're the same gen

lol

[fresh glade]

yeah we still remember when decency got to an end with television lol

[stark prawn]

:wut:

[sonic night]

u know u can just ord a char?

>>> def convert(char):
...     int_value=ord(char)
...     if int_value>90:
...         return int_value-97
...     else:
...        return int_value-65

    
>>> convert('a')
0
>>> convert('B')
1

[dusky orchid]

ye

[fresh glade]

that's what newer generations don't get @stark prawn , 90's kids do 😛

[dusky orchid]

how do you think the charinfo command works @sonic night

😛

[stark prawn]

You are the first one 90's kid i've heard saying that.

[fresh glade]

all new generations with their mass-hypno devices in their pockets but mostly in their hands

[dusky orchid]

!charinfo a

[royal lake]

Character Info

\u0061 : LATIN SMALL LETTER A - a

[stark prawn]

When you said it first I assumed you were like 60

[sonic night]

huh, what is charinfo?

[fresh glade]

lol

[sonic night]

ohisee

[dusky orchid]

yeah same grote

[fresh glade]

@stark prawn DECENCY was lost with cartoons like Beavis&Butthead and things later lke South Park

[dusky orchid]

b&b is 80's tho

[sonic night]

at my wrapper every builtin emoji is added, so i just need to know their in-discord name

[fresh glade]

'the way they talked' became normal

[dusky orchid]

oh damn, i thought it was 80s

[stark prawn]

Where do you live that that's considered normal.

[fresh glade]

in the 60's you still had this certain criteria of human decency in what they could and could not say on TV

[dusky orchid]

apparently started in 93

daaamn

anyways, it felt old and boring when i seen it when i was younger, so i guess i never got into it

[fresh glade]

we blew that away, we even got rid of censorship of cussing in the netherlands

[stark prawn]

tfw I live there and there's no one talking like south park.

[oblique lintel]

cow and chicken

[fresh glade]

Jij woont in NL? (You live in netherlands)

[stark prawn]

yeah

[fresh glade]

Yeah Cow & Chicken were awesome - cartoon network was 'da bomb'

[oblique lintel]

powerpup girls, tnnt, dekster and didy and scary doog , scoobydooby do xD

[fresh glade]

Dexters Lab

I AM Weasel

[stark prawn]

Now I want to see a cartoon named powerpup girls.

[fresh glade]

I R baboon

[oblique lintel]

je suis fromage <<< there was a expisode where dexter lerning franche on CD player and it got stuck so it was repiting je susis fromage like half show

[fresh glade]

une ommelette de fromage

it was if i remember correctly lol

@stark prawn kom je ook uit de buurt van Den Haag? 😛

[stark prawn]

Stad groningen

[fresh glade]

FC Grunn

[gentle moss]

haha

[fresh glade]

sorry guys for the foreign mouth

[gentle moss]

waterford whisperer on point as always @sand goblet

[fresh glade]

what what what?

[gentle moss]

oops, scrolled up

[fresh glade]

ah . yeah i hate that bug in discord

[stark prawn]

It's like a british de speld.

[fresh glade]

it sometimes forgets updating the chatrooms while idling - i can't see how they didn't fix it by 'updating' while you select the text/chat field to type

de speld? 😛

de speld horen vallen of 'm zoeken in t hooibergje? hahha

[stark prawn]

Are you sure you aren't 60?

[fresh glade]

ik had een vriendin vlakbij terapel

emm ... stads.... nog wat

stadskanaal

was t

we reden soms wel eens naar groningen toe vanuit daar ~ gingen we ff naar de 3 zusters toe en deden we daar ff lunchen en koffie

warning: foreign language above this disclaimer, parental advisory adviced before reading/translating

@stark prawn Nope ik word over 2 maandjes 30 man

@stark prawn jij ?

[oak tangle]

Please use English on this server

[fresh glade]

and between the disclaimers aswell

OKAY, WHO SNITCHED ON ME?!

who snitched on me @oak tangle ?

just kidding

i will abide it sir , sorry - i was just anxious like a dog - happy to have met a fello nationalist

[oak tangle]

But, Groningen is quite nice

[fresh glade]

yes it is

i come from The Hague

where do you come from?

[oak tangle]

Ah, that's close

I live near The Hague

Rijswijk

[fresh glade]

Gouda?

aah

nice that's were my grandparents live on the winston churchillaan that big flat there

sir winston churchill laan , voor de boogaert

near the bogaert lol

[oak tangle]

Oh, right. That's about five minutes on foot from my house

[fresh glade]

nice 😃

Rijswijk is like 20 minutes of cycling for me at most

i really live in the center of The Hague though - i used to live closer to Rijswijk

all my family came from Amsterdam, the Hague , Delft and Rijswijk

@oak tangle Still so many northern-africans living there in rijswijk? i was getting worried because i saw the ratios change ... racist or just truthfully said? i sometimes wonder

@oak tangle Aaah - build them another mosquee already - there are more muslims in the Netherlands then christans

weird right?

must be just me

i think they see the money the western part of the Netherlands is earning so they move here

[stark prawn]

The majority isn't religious at all.

[fresh glade]

i speak Arabic for half an year now - and i must say --- i can get really far into society with this language alone

@stark prawn ik zie er toch meer met een hijab dan zonder hoor

[dusky orchid]

lets keep this both clean from any possible subjects of race, and keep things english

[plucky ridge]

1. Keep it in English
2. Keep it non-political or anything that could come off as racey

This isn't the place for that

[fresh glade]

i see more of the northern africans wearing a 'hijab' then ones who don't

[plucky ridge]

I'm not asking

Pick a different topic

[fresh glade]

This is not political - i'm not boycotting or propagandizing here don't worry haha

[plucky ridge]

I'd rather not have any kind of potential blow up, regardless of intent

[fresh glade]

our politics are diffrent here in this country i suppose, we are more freely talking about these things lately with the citizens, like that their growth rate has been expansional and we were talking about that

i won't - i always help people don't worry

it's just really dutch way of conversating i guess

we always ask opinions to our fellow citizens lol

[dusky orchid]

you're still talking about it

[fresh glade]

as we are actually experiencing problems with a 'race' or 'ethnicity' that has expanded in some rabbit growth problem

[vestal briar]

Huh

[fresh glade]

i'll stop now - i was just telling you what it was about

[vestal briar]

Muslim?

[fresh glade]

no

[dusky orchid]

we asked to stop the convo, not for further info though

[vestal briar]

East Europe?

Oh sorry

[fresh glade]

we can't talk about politics here and that includes Etrhnical Ethicity concludied by him

[plucky ridge]

That mute function of mine is looking pretty damn good right about now

[vestal briar]

There is rules against it now?

[dusky orchid]

!tempmute 448244761304891393 1H Chill for a bit, you're seemingly unable to stop talking about something.

[royal lake]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: muted @fresh glade until Fri, 05 Apr 2019 14:56:13 GMT (Chill for a bit, you're seemingly unable to stop talking about something.).

[plucky ridge]

The rule is to listen to staff

[tame terrace]

thanks.

[vestal briar]

Ah

[tame terrace]

listen to my admins in the future

stop means stop now.

[vestal briar]

Rest in peace phone battery

18 percent and still 2 hours to go :/

Gtg

[oak tangle]

My phone's at 2

[gentle moss]

wow

i just scrolled up

what a tyre fire.

[plucky ridge]

Shhhh

[gentle moss]

anyway, Office 365 has some really nice shit in Powershell

for accessing user data

[plucky ridge]

Oh absolutely

[gentle moss]

i'm trying to achieve the same in Google Apps

HOLY FUCK

[plucky ridge]

PS is actually really freakin' strong

[gentle moss]

I was able to just treat the PS session like using Exchange Management Shell pretty much

grab all the email addresses for an organisation, np

but using the reseller API and google's Python modules

holy fuck is this shit weird

[plucky ridge]

Like Active Directory style or

[gentle moss]

yeah

[plucky ridge]

Niiiice

[gentle moss]

plus you can just import a session and not have to generate an API key

then log on with a classic windows username / pass popup

which i guess is kinda bad security wise

but it made my task easier so

[plucky ridge]

If it's a single use thing, eh

Obviously not viable for production but for testing, it works

[gentle moss]

oh yeah, i'm just trying to scrape an accurate list of all email addresses we currently provide for customers

all the MS based stuff has been easy

Exchange / O365 (pretty much exchange)

[sand goblet]

oh, speaking of Office 365

[plucky ridge]

Wait, there isn't like a bulk database table for that?

[sand goblet]

my mom's office is up for renewal soon and she needs to add a card

the entire payments portal is broken to shit

good times

[plucky ridge]

Ace of Spades

Oh wrong card

[gentle moss]

dead man's hand again

tsk tsk tsk

[plucky ridge]

I feel like the cards in a dead man's hand are so arbitrary it's hard to remember what they were

I have to look it up every time

[gentle moss]

it's what ever cards Lemmy had in that song

aces and eights?

all black

[plucky ridge]

That's right

For some reason I thought it was something else

[gentle moss]

i have been watching Deadwood recently

helps

[plucky ridge]

This is the one I was thinking of. Snipped from the wiki for it:

... the ace of diamonds with a heel mark on it; the ace of clubs; the two black eights, clubs and spades, and the queen of hearts with a small drop of Hickok's blood on it...

Historically the hand that Wild Bill Hickok had when he died.

[gentle moss]

yeah, Hickok was in Deadwood until he died

[plucky ridge]

Very cool

[gentle moss]

in deadwood, the tv show, where he also died

duh

why does the google reseller API feel like utter garbage?

i literally want a list of all email addresses and it's like backflipping through flaming hoops

[plucky ridge]

There's a lot of the Google API stuff that feels incredibly clunky

I've had mixed success using it

[gentle moss]

documentation feels a bit fucking twisted too

[plucky ridge]

We're spoiled by Python docs

[gentle moss]

true

plus the docker documentation is also really nice

[plucky ridge]

True

Google's just feels like it was thrown together from docstrings and then never looked at after

Lots of holes you have to meander your way through

[gentle moss]

yeah

millions of tabs

[plucky ridge]

I feel like I'm missing something here

[gentle moss]

afk, apprentice forgot to call me at a key part during a network move

and now i have to rush equipment out of a rack and to a new location

wooooooo

n1 underpaid lackey

[plucky ridge]

Yikes

[dusky orchid]

@gentle moss ik i'm late

but PS is actually really well done

people hate on it so much

i'll admit it's different from shell

but it's very powerful, one just has to learn the correct way to use it and see what it's able to connect to

PS6 especially is a pretty impressive system

[gentle moss]

yeah

i was more referring to the integration with MS products

and how smooth a lot of that is

specifically cloud services

O365 + PS is much easier than Python + Google API

or even just the Google CLI tools and the API

basically the problem is Google's fucking API

not sure if it's better or worse than being covered in plaster dust and fibre glass 🤔

[tight gyro]

good night every one

good night @viral parrot thx for today's help

[sullen thorn]

gn

[tame pier]

Looking at getting a new CPU to replace my i7-4790k

Current pick is a i9-9900k with a Z390 mobo

Finding a good mobo tho has been a bit of a challenge

This one looks good: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188198

But it maxes out at 32GB of RAM

Ideally want something with both 2 NICs and 64GB RAM max

The right-facing power connectors are a stroke of genius tho

This one has 3 NICs tho https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157851

Or this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157856

[trail sonnet]

APPLE RULES

[blissful vale]

Ok so, I'm not a huge apple fan either, and their laptops are just stupidly overpriced. But

Windows is awful, and i avoid that for developing at all cost

linux is great, but for laptop I want something that offers a bit of convenience, and works out of the box

so in comes macbook pros

its unix, which means command line is great and familiar if youre a linux person

its gui is fairly intuitive id say, and it has wider general support than linux distros

[trail sonnet]

With linux i end up having to reinstall the OS every now and then which kills a day or two. Windows, developer tools just don't seem to be too friendly with. Mac... everything seems perfect and is reliable. Its a machine that just works. In most cases.

I am biased though.

[blissful vale]

now when it comes to price

i wouldnt purchase a macbook pro myself

but its industry standard (here at least) for developers to get hardware from their employer

and hey if theyre gonna give me the option, ill take the macbook pro because why not

so like the macbooks ive had i havent bought myself

and i gotta say ive been happy with them

[pseudo nebula]

Apple

is

bad

[blissful vale]

in what way?

[pseudo nebula]

Quality 👎
Price 👎
Freedom 👎
Original ideas 👎

good ideas ❔ ❔ ❔ ❔ ❔ ❔ ❔ ❔ ❔

[blissful vale]

im happy with the build quality on the macbook pros (although obviously they had that keyboard mess up which ive been lucky enough to avoid)

[pseudo nebula]

Operating system... 👎

[blissful vale]

i had some asus laptop before which was just awful and plastic, did not like

its better than windows

:p

[pseudo nebula]

Well obviously you'll like the much more expensive laptop...

[blissful vale]

this was about £100 more expensive than the asus

so like ye more expensive, but honestly not enough to justify that lack of build quality

[pseudo nebula]

and expensive asus laptops are typically for gaming not aesthetics or body build quality

[blissful vale]

yup, it was a gaming laptop

that became unusable after a year

i wouldnt want a mac desktop, but for laptop i just prefer it

[tame terrace]

macbooks have very high build quality. as a person who doesn't use any apple products, I've always been envious of that.

[pseudo nebula]

Just because something happened to a windows computer you had at one point does not mean anything about apple

[blissful vale]

if there was a linux offering that was as solid as macbooks, i would 100% go for that

[tame terrace]

and OSX strikes a nice balance between usability and the raw power of a nix-like operating system.

[blissful vale]

^^

this is my main argument for liking it

[pseudo nebula]

I like the way they look ofc, but windows and android device manufacturers are finally starting to focus more on that so apple isn't really special in that way anymore

android p and windows 10 kinda closed the gap

[tame terrace]

again, I prefer linux, but to say the OS sucks and the quality sucks seems to indicate you're not that familiar with them. say what you will about their business ethics and price, those are both wild.

[blissful vale]

maybe its just because i prefer unix systems, but I just really dislike programming on windows

[tame terrace]

same

that's why I dual boot

[blissful vale]

not to mention command line was (and still is despite powershell) not up to par

[tame terrace]

it's terrible

although you can do certain things to improve that experience.

[blissful vale]

for sure, like mingw and git bash help

[pseudo nebula]

I've actually used many apple products and am very familiar with them I just don't like simplistic/basic OS and mediocre internals in an expensive shell

[tame terrace]

see, now that sounds like an opinion

which you're completely entitled to

but phrasing it as an objective truth is maybe a little rich

[pseudo nebula]

Actually just to clarify, it's facts. I mean my position is an opinion of course but in terms of the os and internals thats completely factual.

[blissful vale]

I also agree that the specs are not really worth the price, but I also believe its because they are pricing them to be a business expense the employer pays, although i havent actually heard if this is true

i mean naa its still your opinion of the OS

[pseudo nebula]

Have you used android? Or windows...

[blissful vale]

yup

i use windows/mac/linux all three on daily basis

and android

[pseudo nebula]

Support for mac is nothing compared to windows however the gap is closing... And for android i can't really even compare... Too big a gap in customization.

And they are pricing them that way because they know people want expensive. People are pretty dumb with money when it comes to being able to show off something expensive.

[blissful vale]

personally the only reason I still even use windows is because it has the best gaming support, otherwise I would be gone because I don't really enjoy the OS and feel limited since it doesnt provide a great command line

[tame terrace]

@blissful vale if you set up something like Hyper as your terminal, and install coreutils and git for windows, you can get a much much better command line experience.

just a tip.

[blissful vale]

thanks, ill definitely check that out

[pseudo nebula]

(windows freedom...)

[tame terrace]

coreutils contains stuff like ls, cat, chmod, etc. basically all the GNU commands

[blissful vale]

ahh thats just what I want!

i hate typing ls and then needing to type dir once i remember :p

[tame terrace]

yeah, it really made life better for me as an occasional windows user

I only use windows for music production and adobe products like photoshop

for which there are no adequate alternatives for linux :(

and a little bit of gaming, although gaming on linux is getting better all the time

[blissful vale]

doesnt wine provide good support for them?

[tame terrace]

there's a ton of stuff on the linux steam now

wine provides okay support for 10 year old versions of them

[blissful vale]

isnt valve working on these drivers that require no porting from devs?

[tame terrace]

yes

but having tested their current offering, it leaves much to be desired.

[blissful vale]

not surprised

[tame terrace]

they'll hopefully get there, though

[blissful vale]

fingers crossed

as soon as that happens im switching my desktop to default boot linux

[tame terrace]

I do default boot to linux, but I can boot into windows by just typing win into a terminal window

and it takes like ten fifteen seconds, so it's fairly convenient

[blissful vale]

oh thats neat, how does it do that?

[tame terrace]

basically just an alias to grub-reboot

which selects which grub option to default select for next boot

[blissful vale]

ahh, clever stuff

and it resets on next boot?

[tame terrace]

so say windows is number 4 on your list, grub-reboot 4 will reboot and select it

so you can walk away, get some water, come back to windows

or like.. check your phone or whatever

makes dual boot pretty acceptable

[blissful vale]

welp thats on my list of aliases to add

im gonna be getting an nvme drive for my next build, should make booting a breeze

[tame terrace]

my booting is a bit slow cause I still have a SATA drive in there

I had three of them

and three SSDs

but two of them died

[blissful vale]

F

[tame terrace]

just waiting for the third one to say bye bye any day now

but it's just data, anything that's important is in the cloud anyway

at this point I think of harddrives just as temp storage

[blissful vale]

but harddrives have a better lifetime no?

[tame terrace]

than what

solid state?

[blissful vale]

ssd

they seem to fail less often? or am i imagining things

[tame terrace]

google saaaays. no. not modern ones. maybe older ssds.

[blissful vale]

then im just imagining things

[tame terrace]

but all drives will die

it's just a matter of time

and they could die at any time

[blissful vale]

i think its because within the past week ive now heard from 3 separate people mention ssds die, so mustve just gotten in my head

[tame terrace]

so I still just plan for the worst.

to be clear, all three of my SSDs are fine

[blissful vale]

good idea

[tame terrace]

but two of my SATAs are dead.

so my experience is the opposite of that

[blissful vale]

oooh

[tame terrace]

but

to be fair

[blissful vale]

i read that as your ssds died

[tame terrace]

my SATAs were older

[blissful vale]

nvm then

i should probs head to bed

thanks for the tip regarding hyper!

[tame terrace]

coreutils and hyper. you can thank me later

sleep tight now

[tame pier]

How do you see the grub-boot list order?

Want that alias now because I have the exact same setup

Windows on it's own SSD for gaming

Linux for everything else and some games

[tame terrace]

I don't know if there's a grub command to show it, there probably is. you could definitely see it in the config files.. but the easiest way would just be to go the grub menu and look?

it's the number in that list.

zero indexed.

[tame pier]

Gotcha

Will note it when I switch back

In Windows right now :/

[halcyon siren]

@smoky badge I just found this page and it has a ton of useful shortcuts I didn't even know existed, although for sublime I'm sure a lot of other text editors will also have these:
http://docs.sublimetext.info/en/latest/reference/keyboard_shortcuts_win.html

One I noticed that I use often is ctr + [ or ], it indents/unindents the lines you have selected which can be really useful so you don't have to go to the start of every line you need to (un)indent and backspace or tab

👍

[sinful copper]

idle has the exact same shortcut

[smoky badge]

@halcyon siren Thanks, if you have any other recommendations please let me know!

I'm looking for common shortcuts/ hot keys that would be useful to learn for regular coding in python and R

[halcyon siren]

👍

[rough sapphire]

I'd like some lemons please

organic.. none of that gmo crap..

[tame terrace]

baby I got chu

[rough sapphire]

XD

[gentle moss]

pssssssssst

all lemons are genetically modified

[robust sierra]

gasps

[tight gyro]

is there any free vps giving sites for like databases or all are paid? anybody knows any?

if u got a response please ping me

[viscid quarry]

@tight gyro if you just want a database you can use 000webhost or somethin

[tight gyro]

is it for free?

[viscid quarry]

iirc yea

[tight gyro]

thx helpful

[viscid quarry]

np

[tight gyro]

also if u can help me in #help-falafel would be appreciated

[vestal briar]

:) https://www.reddit.com/r/insanepeoplefacebook/comments/b9vcph/yes_that_sounds_like_a_great_idea/ek8le16?context=3

(click here:)

[rough sapphire]

@vestal briar its a difficult issue with equally valid points, IMO

[vestal briar]

Huh

[rough sapphire]

one side is being compassionate to people who are stuck with a shitty life situation, and the other side is paying the same amount for a lower output employee with likely a higher liability to injure themselves, do sub-par work, etc

at a minimum if a company is hiring people with mental disabilities, I definitely think they should get a tax writeoff for doing so, if they don't already

I don't know the right approach to it, other than it should be as close of a win-win as possible, while incentivizing employers to some degree to hire them, while minimizing liabilities

[vestal briar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Tax writeoff sounds like the best way to go

Though then the govt will be loosing out x2

Also it depends how severe the handicap is

If it's avg autism, it's fine

If you are a vegtible and somehow get a job; what's the point paying full wages if you don't work and can't use the money

What is the PC word for vegtable now?

Brain-dead?

[stark prawn]

Autism isn't a mental disability

[rough sapphire]

sorry, was working

yeah autism generally isn't that bad

one good example can be cerebral palsy, regarding this

I have an aunt in her mid 50's with it, who has it pretty bad

she's a nice lady and I love her to death, but she can only do things 1/10 the speed of someone regularly

she works at target restocking shelves I think

as for whoever losing out, I don't know how you can integrate those who are particularly mentally disabled into the workforce without it being an economic burden in some way

looking at it purely logically, they cost the same amount and produce a fraction of the output

that's why I strongly believe there should be writeoffs as an incentive

[vestal briar]

Yeah

Output is the thing you should look at

In most cases atleast

(And autism is a mental disability but usually not that bad)

[stark prawn]

It's a developmental disorder

[vestal briar]

So someone with severe autism is just as abled as an avg person?

[tired osprey]

"Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5)" from https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/autism-spectrum-disorders-asd/index.shtml

[vestal briar]

(Not really talking specifics here)

[tired osprey]

i think if its in a manual about mental disorders you can name it mental disorder cant you?

[gentle moss]

DSM can eat shit though

[vestal briar]

DSM?

[gentle moss]

It's only used by America

pretty much

It's a manual created by the American Psychiatric Association

[tired osprey]

Well at least it is used by some official not that small organisation which is why i use it to prove my point

[gentle moss]

to try and categorise mental health problems etc

yeah but we all know the American medical system is totally fucked

[vestal briar]

developmental disorders are a subset of being disabled?

Also what does developmental disorder mean

[gentle moss]

DSM tries to take symptoms and produce a diagnosis based off them. at least older versions.

rather than actually consider what the root cause might be

[vestal briar]

Because you can't have a bad childhood and catch autism?

Or developmental as in inside the womb

[stark prawn]

DSM is used here in nl aswell

[gentle moss]

i just dropped in to say the DSM is a piece of shit

:3

written in private involving NDA's to prevent the process being exposed

[vestal briar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gentle moss]

The British Psychological Society stated in its June 2011 response to DSM-5 draft versions, that it had "more concerns than plaudits".[67] It criticized proposed diagnoses as "clearly based largely on social norms, with 'symptoms' that all rely on subjective judgements... not value-free, but rather reflect[ing] current normative social expectations", noting doubts over the reliability, validity, and value of existing criteria, that personality disorders were not normed on the general population, and that "not otherwise specified" categories covered a "huge" 30% of all personality disorders.```

as one example of a criticism

It also expressed a major concern that "clients and the general public are negatively affected by the continued and continuous medicalisation of their natural and normal responses to their experiences... which demand helping responses, but which do not reflect illnesses so much as normal individual variation".```

[tired osprey]

Im not using it to say "Hey thats how you diagnose autism" My point is that they think autism is a mental disorder which is the reason people have been discussing here for a bit

[gentle moss]

imo it's one of the reasons Americans just get shovelled a shit load of drugs rather than actual therapy for mental disorders

yeah, the autism discussion isn't my point

DSM just pisses me off

[stark prawn]

Your link supports my comment though

[vestal briar]

What's the diffrence between developmental and mental disorder?

[tired osprey]

my link says that it is both a developmental and as its inside the DSM also a mental disorder

which leads to the thought that maybe developmental disorders are at least partly a subset of mental disorders so you both are correct

[stark prawn]

DSM isn't just mental disorders

By that logic stuttering also is one.

[gentle moss]

stuttering is covered by the DSM

[tired osprey]

apparently it is then

[gentle moss]

this is why i have problems with the DSM

if you ever get a chance to read one, holy shit

i think i flicked through a DSM 3

fingers crossed they got better

different parts of my life would be classified as various "disorders" according to the DSM

most people would fit somewhere inside a disorder classified by the DSM, it's a very fucking unhelpful tool

[stark prawn]

Older versions have a really outdated worldview

[gentle moss]

DSM 3 was late 80's so yeah

they've probably done something to make it less shit

however it's probably still shit :3

i think part of the over prescription culture in America is in part due to the DSM

[oak tangle]

Well, that's a very biased view of the DSM

[gentle moss]

it is.

i don't hide that. :3

[oak tangle]

One of the main criteria for being categorized is that it must have a major impact on your life.

So, recognizing things wouldn't be enough to make you fall under a disorder

[gentle moss]

i went through some traumatic shit growing up, according to the DSM that's a mental illness that should be solved with drugs, for example.

rather than it being something i need to work on and figure out

[oak tangle]

Hmm, I don't think that's accurate

But, I haven't looked at it since my bachelor's

(I do have a bachelor in psychology)

[gentle moss]

fair

i've looked into the DSM and have my views, i've also talked to psychiatrists about the definitions i've found about myself etc

[stark prawn]

The latest ICD and DSM have moved toward eachother a lot.

[gentle moss]

the british psychiatrists didn't seem so happy about the DSM when i talked to them

however, some years ago

[oak tangle]

Yeah, that's not wrong, I think

I must be honest and include that clinical psychology wasn't really my thing. I was there for the cognitive science/cognitive neuroscience

[gentle moss]

maybe the DSM got such a bad reputation they figured they should probably sort their shit out ¬_¬

[oak tangle]

Haha

Seems like a thing they do in mental health: sorting things out

[gentle moss]

oh wow, the NHS has posted a full write up on some DSM stuff

https://www.nhs.uk/news/mental-health/news-analysis-controversial-mental-health-guide-dsm-5/

“Despite all its epistemological, scientific and even clinical failings, the DSM incorporates a great deal of practical knowledge in a convenient and useful format. It does its job reasonably well when it is applied properly and when its limitations are understood. One must strike a proper balance.”```

i think that's fair

[stark prawn]

Having like a blood test or something would be awesome imo

[gentle moss]

:D

[stark prawn]

Not having to search for years

[gentle moss]

yeah

at least we know if you were vaccinated you're autistic

¬_¬

[stark prawn]

That must be it.

[sand goblet]

https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-sites-and-copyright-holders-can-both-profit-from-advertising/

interesting idea

[glass gorge]

[gentle moss]

O_O

yeah @sand goblet, seems like a logical solution

if they're that worried about losses

[vapid bluff]

would this include forcing people to turn off adblockers to use the site then?

which presumably would be fairly easy to bypass either way

[rugged vapor]

Quote
bisk, Last Friday at 4:58 PM
anyway, Office 365 has some really nice shit in Powershell

Office 365 regularly wrecks my CPU with its officeclicktorun.exe (telemetry?) agent, can't start Office 2016+ without it running. ;_;

bisk, Yesterday at 9:36 PM
imo it's one of the reasons Americans just get shovelled a shit load of drugs rather than actual therapy for mental disorders

Hm, probably. Thanks for citing those critiques from the British Psychological Society.

Norwegian here btw. 🍻

[rough sapphire]

Guys ... im stuck at this boss ... he seems to cryptic to me

[shell blade]

wow

[austere hawk]

I definitely don't have the patience to watch the last blackpenredpen video

[lilac glade]

@glass gorge Why are those keys upside down

[glass gorge]

I have no idea

That's why i was asking if it's a sick joke

Separate question; when people say writing down thoughts / write journal etc does that only apply to writing it by hand, or just any form of thoughts => written words.

[pine vector]

in 2019, i imagine a "journal" on a digital media would be accepted.

[sand goblet]

I don't see why it'd have to be by hand

[glass gorge]

I did not either

just wondered if there were some science behind it

writing it by hand

other than it might help remember it better

but that's not quite the purpose a journal

[pine vector]

well, think before we had even photos. writing down an event in a journal was probably better than trying to rely solely on memory.

[glass gorge]

Yeah~ I just watched a talk about how ideas are almost always incomplete until you try to formulate them into sentences

Either through conversation, or journaling

So figured id give it a go

[pine vector]

hmm. may depend on the whole "visual" vs "auditory" thinker philosophy.

[glass gorge]

It was mostly focused on the part where you think the idea is all great and completely when you think about it

But you'll notice flaws, edge cases, and so on when you try to formulate it

And i guess it doesn't harm to write down thoughts, and stuff i'd like to remember 🤷

[pine vector]

i can't speak to the "science" behind it, but yeah i could see that. externalizing an idea can tend to force you to work through logistics/etc that weren't apparent in your original thoughts.

[glass gorge]

Yeah

That's just the thing

I believe this was the video i listened to https://youtu.be/RleN-6uMF04

[pine vector]

probably not an "across the board" thing though. some people think in those terms already. "problem solvers", like say programmers, may also have more practice and muscle memory in thinking like that.

[glass gorge]

It's like a sub-topic of the whole thing

iirc

[pine vector]

i gotta run, but i may watch that later.

[glass gorge]

No worries, just shared if anyone was interested c:

[steel fox]

@crisp sierra have you played below zero yet?

[crisp sierra]

@steel fox no - just got the original a couple days ago and it's so good that I want below zero now

@static veldt gifted it to me

[steel fox]

yeah its real fun

BZ is cool too but a lot is still untextured

[proven flint]

my monitor shows one image of my desktop when i turn it on then it immediately becomes black again

and i dont know what the problem is

the monitor is an samsung syncmaster s24b350

[oak tangle]

Windows? Try pressing win+p

Maybe it has a weird multiple monitor glitch

[proven flint]

okay

this is weird

this monitor has been like this for months

and then it suddenly works again

???

jeez

oh well all my tech problems gets solved when i ask your guys no matter what

xd

is there a way to increase the vibrance of a screen thats not in nvidia control panel?

this screen isnt connected to my graphics card but rather the motherboard

ik its weird

[vestal briar]

Why are you using the bad apu rather than the gpu?

[proven flint]

i dont have a hdmi - display port cable currently

only hdmi - hdmi

sol

ill buy one tomorrow i guess

[lilac glade]

That'd be expensive, no?

What ports do you have available on your GPU and monitor?

[proven flint]

on the screen i got hdmi and vga

and the gpu got 3x displayport 1x hdmi and 1x dual-link dvi

and im already using the dvi and hdmi

[robust sierra]

wtf

why didnt i receive a ping from announcements

weird

[loud kestrel]

Do you have @everyone pings turned off?

In notification settings there's an option to suppress them

[robust sierra]

oh i do

i think i might have checked it off by accident when i was suppressing all the other servers i had on my list

holD on

[lilac glade]

@proven flint You might be better off getting a new monitor at that point, or if you really don't want to, a VGA to DVI (male).

HDMI -> DP might cause a few hiccups.

[viral parrot]

i have not had any hdmi -> DP issues

[sand goblet]

Same, no problems either

Nor in the other direction

Which is decidedly more common

[lilac glade]

I've had some related to sound soecifically. That's why I bring it up.

[viral parrot]

Scaling down, dp -> HDMI will never be a problem

[lilac glade]

I read his inputs wrong

He should be fine using DP -> X for that monitor, yeah.

[tame terrace]

so blue in here.

[stark prawn]

I'm Blue dabadie dabadai

[bleak lintel]

It's alarming how much of that song I know

Our music teacher put it on the other day and I could recite the majority of the song

[vestal briar]

Wow

I don't have any music classes any more

Was a nice siroff fun lesson though

[sand goblet]

soooon

[proven flint]

yeah im scaling down dp -> hdmi shouldnt be any problems

thanks guys xP

[sand goblet]

Haha @tame terrace, you goddamn trooper, singing under those conditions

Excellent video, good work on it

[worn kite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7hPtc1WIIg

it's not a cover it's a cry for help

[shell blade]

well that is just super cool guys!

i said if i could donate to the channel in the past i would

so there

[pine vector]

agreed. def getting some merch...

[shell blade]

im watching the youtube video now lol

i can't eat hot sauce like that poor guys lol

it kind of sucks that as a Canadian i am always late to the announcement's

Did hot ones let you borrow their format?

[rough sapphire]

guys

what's Clojure

[shell blade]

echo..

[pine vector]

ping..

[shell blade]

lol it's so dead at this time we need more north americans on this server

[pine vector]

indeed. or, we could convince the Europeans to switch to a night shift.

[shell blade]

lol

[oak tangle]

Good morning

[shell blade]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-funny-hello-hi-wave-gif-3528683

[rough sapphire]

ello

hey everyone..

enlighten me about Clojure please

what is it good for

[shell blade]

well i am going to bed night

[vestal briar]

Haha

No answers 😅

Clojure is a dynamic, general-purpose programming language, combining the approachability and interactive development of a scripting language with an efficient and robust infrastructure for multithreaded programming.

[sand goblet]

It's a lisp

[vestal briar]

So it's a scripting language that can be compiled or run on jvm it seems

[sand goblet]

Yeah

[vestal briar]

Dialect of lisp

First in 2007

[sand goblet]

It's a little faster than plain java for general and data work

[vestal briar]

Sounds pretty cool

Let's see the syntax

[sand goblet]

But really there aren't many objective reasons to use it

If you like lisps, you use clojure

Otherwise you probably don't

[vestal briar]

Could be argued as a nice alternitive to bash?

[sand goblet]

Nope

[vestal briar]

For making more complicated scrips

I don't know

LUA?

[sand goblet]

Nah

Python

[vestal briar]

It sounds like compiled lua

Like the use cases?

[sand goblet]

Nah, you can write full apps in it

I've used it, but I did not like it

If you want a lisp, Hylang is more worth your time

[vestal briar]

👍

I'll just do 70% python, 30% rust

Balances dev time and speed nicely

Just learning rust slowly and steadily now

[stark prawn]

Premature optimization

[vestal briar]

Well, will do it all in python and have core algos in Rust to speed it up

Will mainly be doing flask so if I was running through users and preforming a ton of stuff on it, would payoff using Rust

[vestal briar]

The fuck

Um

I cleaned my earphones (apple wired thingies) and I think I knocked the driver the opposite way

It is now playing music out of the back of the earphones

Only on one side

I think I fucking knocked the speaker 180 by flicking it

It's playing out of the plastic bluge at the back not the opening

😅

[sand goblet]

👀

@vestal briar apple earphones have been terrible for quite some time

[vestal briar]

Mm

Gtg

[summer rampart]

flick it again to restore b a l a n c e

[rough sapphire]

All Apple products are garbage..

this pro book they gave me at work screwed up my wrists so bad..

I asked for a Windows and was declined.. cuz 'security reasons' .. -_-

[summer rampart]

ask for a Linux machine, maximum security!

[rough sapphire]

yep.. that's what I did..

now I use this pos mac to connect to the linux machine..

I will never understand.. the linux machine is like 7 times cheaper than the mac.. people need to ditch crApple..

[tame terrace]

this song again

[oak tangle]

Yes, people like to repeat it

[shell blade]

Good morning

[rough sapphire]

Ello

was eating lemon cheese.. then noticed the name on the channel..coincidence? I think not..

[oak tangle]

Good morning @shell blade and how dare you eat me, @rough sapphire ?

[glass gorge]

Oh hey gude is blue now

[stark prawn]

dabadee dabadai

[sand goblet]

Gotta be that blue

[rough sapphire]

I'm weak.. weak for lemons..

[robust sierra]

gude

good

the g is for good

[stark prawn]

https://www.hushhush.com/battle-royale-event-gamemaker/

[spiral flame]

anybody know the architecture style this house belongs to?

im trying to find the design category houses like this sit in but im coming up with nothing searching by " low roof bungalow" etc

[sinful copper]

i might call that a ranch house - that's a very general category though that basically fits any wide one-story house

[spiral flame]

thank you though, that def got me closer! 😃

[steel fox]

That one in particularly almost looks like a trailer with a sunroom attached.

[sinful copper]

I wouldn't say a trailer

It looks like a house designed to be transported on a trailer (modular home), probably in three sections, but not necessarily one with permanently attached frame and wheels

(those are usually hidden by a skirt even in actual trailer homes, but this one looks too low to the ground for that)

in fact @spiral flame maybe google "triple wide", or modular or prefabricated homes, you might find some with some similar roof lines

[rain spindle]

Try google image search

[stark prawn]

** is for raising a number to a power.

^ is for a binary operation, iirc it was binary xor

Yes

[rough sapphire]

@rough sapphire it still works, just remove the [0]

ah

[shell blade]

Is anyone excited for game of thrones this weekend?

[lunar thistle]

is the new season premiering?

haven't been following

[shell blade]

yes on sunday very exciting

[lunar thistle]

sweeet, i heard they are going to be 2 hour episodes for the final season

[shell blade]

yeah they are feature length or something im not sure if that means 2 hrs or w/e

but i think there is only 6 episodes

[lunar thistle]

gonna be 🔥 🔥 🔥

[shell blade]

i know im so hyped for this

[proper dune]

I've seen a few people who want to write simulations and such recently. Here's some notes on numerical methods for science/engineering simulations that others confirmed were as fantastic

If anyone is interested. Should be accessible to CS students, the maths requirements arent too much. Knowing what a differential equation is probably good

[vapid bluff]

oh thats beautiful

[shell blade]

damnit raggy

[vapid bluff]

good notes are so satisfying

[tame pier]

wish my handwriting was that neat

[proper dune]

(Oh and the notes use Python)

[rough sapphire]

I'm on this lisp server..

the emoticons are fucking brackets -_-

( T.T )cries in lisp

[summer rampart]

:)))))

[steel fox]

need a motherboard that supports an i5 6500, and has more than 4 sata ports for hard drives. recommendations? can be mini / micro / atx

[vestal briar]

You could get a cheap one with a sata extender

Pretty sure the ports are built for > 2 on each?

[proper dune]

tfw google rejeccs you but microsoft lets you go to next round

[vapid bluff]

@steel fox tried pcpartpicker already?

[proper dune]

honestly, I just go on PCPP and choose the cheapest motherboard from a major brand that supports the architecture + has enough slots

[vapid bluff]

whatever you end up choosing, you might wanna take a look and see what bios updates have been released for it

some manufacturers neglect their MBs with older chipsets and havent released updates to patch spectre/meltdown

[steel fox]

also true

[carmine cliff]

Isn't it just the kernel you patch with kernel page-table isolation?

[steel fox]

havent looked on PCPP yet was just looking for suggestions

cuz ill need another drive soon

[vapid bluff]

iirc you need to update cpu microcode as well @carmine cliff

[steel fox]

https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=C236M WS#Specifications looks promising

[carmine cliff]

@vapid bluff makes sense

[steel fox]

never thought id be needing a 5th HDD but here we are

apparently 12TB just isnt enough space in 2019

[vapid bluff]

you sure you need >12tb live on the system?

[carmine cliff]

I would recommend a NAS maybe?

[vapid bluff]

otherwise you could just get an external expansion drive or something. or a NAS, yea

somewhere to offload the junk

or excess

[vestal briar]

Not sure how many people use > 12tb

[carmine cliff]

Sounds a bit like you want to join /r/datahoarder

[vestal briar]

I have got 27gb left of 64gb

64gb includes linux install, all software, all documents, all games, WINE, etc

[carmine cliff]

Well doesn't look to good for me, I have 4.2 GB left

but I have to clean up a bit too

some good old fashioned dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever

[stark prawn]

Why zero everything, that takes a long time

[carmine cliff]

you can of course just delete everything and start from scratch too