ot1-perplexing-regexing

[terse harbor]

Okay and

I fail to see where that disarms my point
It kinda just doesn't stand

[pulsar heart]

I never said europe didnt lean on it to harvest that sweet peace dividend

[terse harbor]

And this is hardly true btw

[minor ferry]

have you disproved my former president claim

[terse harbor]

They actively encouraged rearmament during the cold war

[minor ferry]

is there a moral center in europe now

[terse harbor]

Unless you refer to weapons research and development

Which isn't true either, actually

[minor ferry]

can Europe Militarily industrial complex win, one decade worth of guns verse butter arguments

[pulsar heart]

ANYWAY

[terse harbor]

I can too post quotes

[pulsar heart]

its true that there were complains since forever

[terse harbor]

It does not really make it true

[pulsar heart]

but what the americans say and what they do

it tends to be diff things

the shift happened at the obama admin

before that the US was happy with a neutered europe

even if they didnt like to pay for it

[terse harbor]

That is not true

[pulsar heart]

this is not true

bam

I won

can u at least google it

[terse harbor]

I did

[pulsar heart]

u did ?

[terse harbor]

This debate is literally older than Obama

[pulsar heart]

I already explained, there were complains

[terse harbor]

And at least four American presidents have told Europe to pick their spending up

[pulsar heart]

but did anyone do anything ?

nah

they're doing now

[terse harbor]

?

2006 Riga Summit

It was under Bush that the target spending was set to 2%

Also, "neutering" Europe imples that it was against their will
It wasn't, Europe itself wanted to disarm after the cold war

[pulsar heart]

oh was it, and how did that workout

[terse harbor]

That's Europe's fault ¯_(ツ)_/¯

America didn't suppress anything, the Europeans actively chose it

[pulsar heart]

this is not a serious discussion

[terse harbor]

Astounding argument

[minor ferry]

had to pull this one out

[pulsar heart]

pls go study history b4 engaging with me

[minor ferry]

ai baby take over

[pulsar heart]

i assume youre probly an american too

[minor ferry]

anyway

[terse harbor]

"Study history"

[pulsar heart]

ANYWAY

[terse harbor]

At least bring sources to what you're saying, then

This is amusing

[minor ferry]

it probably as old as Nixon

[pulsar heart]

bro im not gonna teach discord randos on the basics of 20th century history

go listen to a kotkins pdocast or wtv

and leave me be in my ignorance

[terse harbor]

20th century history is when America does not force countries to spend their money

🤓

[minor ferry]

yes!

[pulsar heart]

yes yes yes I get it, youre defending america

how about u focus on the incomong iran war

[terse harbor]

I don't even like America

[pulsar heart]

i got stuff to do

[terse harbor]

I just find this greatly amusing because it was Europe's choice

[minor ferry]

The boys up front will take care of it.

[terse harbor]

To do everything you're saying

[pulsar heart]

then youre literally just ignorant, pls go inform yourself

[terse harbor]

Ignorant is when you disagree with me

[pulsar heart]

yes, you diaagree with the basic facts, you have not taken the time to learn about them

[minor ferry]

let's take it one step at a time

[terse harbor]

What basic facts

[minor ferry]

can "europe" become Energy independent?

can you guys go back to nuclear power

[terse harbor]

France is based for this

[pulsar heart]

I am not interested in discussing this, I will not argue about this the same way I will not argue about newtonian law

[minor ferry]

for the sole reason, if your buying russiAN oil then sending money to ukraine, you are funding both sides of the war

[pulsar heart]

you gotta know about it first

before you get to disagree

[terse harbor]

You have to share my view to argue with me

🤓

[pulsar heart]

it is not my view, it is a main stream historical take

[terse harbor]

It is objectively not

[pulsar heart]

I already said, I am not interested in discussing this

[terse harbor]

So much so that you haven't even made a move to disprove me

You're only saying that I'm ignorant

[minor ferry]

It's scope creep, Mainstream afghanistan takes are not global takes

[pulsar heart]

I will not discuss the color of the sky

[terse harbor]

What is the color of the sky then

[pulsar heart]

aight I had to block that dude cuz they troling

[terse harbor]

This is hilarious

Because I genuinely don’t know what “basic facts” you’re referring to

You haven't made them clear at no point throughout this convo

[terse harbor]

Absolute cinema

[pulsar heart]

the only signal I need

[alpine tusk]

number go up

[minor ferry]

Depending on how old this quote is

[pulsar heart]

cmon do u honestly.think preventing Germany from re-armimg wasnt a top US priority

[minor ferry]

if this quote is recent, does this insinuate Europe at some level is still afraid of the germans?

[minor ferry]

No I am asking when this quote was made

[pulsar heart]

post WWII the US got to write the entire global order

can we please agree that this was exactly.the case ?

[minor ferry]

oh it very old

[terse harbor]

(Don't ask why West Germany joined NATO from the get-go)

People resent the fact that while the United States followed a policy of German disarmament and of friendship with Russia after the war, it now advocates rearmament. They could just as easily argue that it was for cooperation with the Soviet Union and to change its policy.
~ Hanz Guderian, 1950

[minor ferry]

explain me like am 5 if the Us got to write the entire Global order, what was the cold war then, why did the soviet union reject the marshall plain, what exactly is a warsaw pact.

[pulsar heart]

1st Secretary General of NATO

speaking about the purpose of NATO

[pulsar heart]

exaaaaactly

[minor ferry]

???

[pulsar heart]

im not gonna do that cuz Im not an LLM that produces textbooks

pls go learn it

im not tryna throw shade

im saying those r valid questions

[minor ferry]

this sounds like alternative history where do we go to learn your history

[pulsar heart]

but they r basic stuff u learn of u look for it

[pulsar heart]

historians

kotkins, sarah paine

etcs

[warped sentinel]

As much as I often disagree with @pulsar heart , what they have been saying so far is not controversial in the EU

[pulsar heart]

yea its very rare we agree on anything lmao

but I actually mostly listen to US historians

tho they tend to be institutionalists and very EU friendly

[minor ferry]

Perhaps the controversial thing is the idea History is agreed on, I don't even think american Marxist believe in what is being said here.
this would ironically disregard the "soviet side" of post ww2 global order setting

I actually just want to see where goes I am no longer interesting in pushing back anything

[warped sentinel]

I can always find an example where a dictator has rewritten their history. It doesn't exclude the existence of a consensus

[terse harbor]

As a matter of correction, what they're saying is plainly incorrect; post 1949, the U.S. simply did not supress any German armament development or procurement
As a matter of fact, actively encouraged and integrated Germany on NATO because they heavily depended on them to protect the Fulda Gap against the Soviets at the time

So much so that West Germany became the largest conventional force in the entirety of NATO for a solid while

While the Americans did absolutely push American weapons towards Europe (and still do), they haven't really stopped them from developing their own solutions
Rheinmetall, Dassault, BAE, and a whole lot of European companies were born and thrived

The best 4.5++ generation aircraft is European, if that tells you something

I get why they say that,
But it's just wrong

[minor ferry]

at least they are doing okay,

but seriously can They develop Energy independence and go back to nuke power

[pulsar heart]

yawn

[terse harbor]

Probably

The French are trying, which, good for them

But the Germans have been walking backwards for some reason

[minor ferry]

The greta Tune berg or however you spell it was threat to national security

[terse harbor]

A tragedy

[warped sentinel]

Americans have done a lot of dirty things to prevent EU companies

[terse harbor]

My goat missed

[terse harbor]

American companies, yes
But it was never a policy-level thing

The only time I can think of it being like, the case, was the Japanese Mitsubishi F-2
And that's a stretch

[pulsar heart]

these are dutch figures

gotta say something positive about NL for once

I think portugal ran on 100% renewables at some point, for like a week or more

[warped sentinel]

The USA government has a history and policy of industrial espionage

[minor ferry]

must of been a good week

[pulsar heart]

after this, the issue will be green washing

[terse harbor]

That's true

[pulsar heart]

cuz for ex making a phone incurs emissions elsewhere in the global supply chain

idk how they will solve that tho

[minor ferry]

to be impartial find me a government who doesn't

[terse harbor]

If we were to crucify America, the perfect case would be the F-2

[warped sentinel]

That's a non sequitur though

[terse harbor]

Because they did not want Japan to become an aerospace competitor

Still don't, BTW

But through a lot of arguing, haggling, and negotiating, they eventually reached an agreement

If they did however not want them to develop said jet, they wouldn't, period
The French wouldn't have built the Rafale, the Swedish wouldn't have built the Gripen

So yeah.

Sketchy behavior, but not exactly suppressing if we're being entirely fair.

[pulsar heart]

I actually had a position that I exited sometime before that last peak, forgot to buy the dip tho

I think energy in general has been doing well cuz of the data center buildout

it also connects back to silver, it's a critical component in solar panels

solar is currently dominating the transition if I recall correctly

[pulsar heart]

inelastic demand, supply chain constrains applied by china, and the safe haven metal aspect of it, etc. im bullish on it despite that crazy volatility

[pulsar heart]

https://www.solarpowereurope.org/insights/outlooks/global-market-outlook-for-solar-power-2025-2029/detail

[pulsar heart]

if the soviets wanted to trade in the global economy, did they do it in rubbles, or did they do it in USD ?

https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

[green pelican]

This entire argument frying me

https://tenor.com/view/ts-frying-me-gif-3716183680874971134

[pulsar heart]

u cooked

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/kai-cenat-kai-cenat-ban-him-kai-cenat-ban-him-ban-him-ban-him-ban-him-ban-gif-8658397593616220767

[green pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-ragebait-this-guy-iron-man-tony-stark-gif-3966857531535969686

[weak peak]

I'd win

[green pelican]

Oh hell no

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-nahh-no-way-lmao-what-is-bro-saying-gif-16249600181008158825

[green pelican]

I was rage baiting since it was called trolling pal you're toast

[minor ferry]

unc

[turbid oyster]

ts frying me

[pulsar heart]

https://youtu.be/lMaRO0zJ3EQ

[stoic lodge]

Wow

[vague skiff]

Ts is why i was suddenly raging about making comic books about killing child traffickers

It's because no famous people cares about that thing

[pulsar heart]

not in the US apparently

in europe the elite is getting slowly crushed by institutional accountability

[vague skiff]

This is why~~ we need batman~~ i agree with vigilante justice

[pulsar heart]

damn, that actually explains americans obsession w/ super heroes

the movies are dope tho

[vague skiff]

It's because not enough criminals are given justice i think

[pulsar heart]

it's like that everywhere

[vague skiff]

News make every bad thing seem exclusive to the US

[pulsar heart]

indeed, every country has issues

NL currently has 100k people removed from the working force because their mental health system is broken

that's literally more ppl than their armed forces

it's the level of casualties you'd expect from a small war

the current gov plans to cut funding to healthcare

🤷

they could just stop being dumb and have a public/private sector split like how we have it everywhere else

and indeed the system of managed market competition between insurances is under threat, when this finally blows up at least

[vague skiff]

What is NL?

[pulsar heart]

the netherlands

I dont think any public dutch institution will do anything. this will end when the private business sector decides that this is affecting their margins and start lobbying and/or straight up threathening the gov

thats actually why the 30 ruling is even still a thing, companies like ASML threathn to leave when they start planning drastic cuts

they gotta nerf it tho, its way too OP

[void nexus]

What About India Guys?

[uneven pine]

What about it?

[void nexus]

India Also Added in Epstein Files

Some Adani Guy In it

[uneven pine]

I'm unsurprised

There was a really long letter about old Indian men in there

I've read obscure fandom fanfics and nothing could've prepared me for the ACTUAL things in those files

[void nexus]

So Who is Good Then If All Big Nation in Epstein File?

[uneven pine]

Why are you typing everything like it's a title?

It's actually really difficult for me to visually process.

[timid latch]

And also don't conflict an entire nation, or even their entire government with one person doing something really bad

[uneven pine]

Almost all politicians are corrupt by default

[void nexus]

my English Is Not My Native Language Maybe That Why

[void nexus]

Like Who the Fox Really Set This Setting Default 😂😂

[void nexus]

That The Biggest Mistake You Just Spoke

[timid latch]

Are you saying you disagree with what I said, or that you agree with it .. because that wasn't really clear tbh

[alpine tusk]

why are you talking in Title Case?

[void nexus]

I mean A person is known by the company they keep. If One person In any Nation and he own higher seat of Government then it be chaos

[void nexus]

Oh Sorry My Mistake, Jesus Bless me

[void nexus]

Who?

[alpine tusk]

you

[void nexus]

My English Is Not Good

[alpine tusk]

I'm unsure how that's relevant
what language capitalizes all words? like I know German capitalizes nouns

[alpine tusk]

hmm, how come?

[void nexus]

My Coding Language Maybe😂

[uneven pine]

Have you seen politicians

[alpine tusk]

you can tell they're corrupt by simply looking at them?

also what does "corrupt" mean in this context exactly? or like what do you mean by that?

[void nexus]

@alpine tusk You Should Do Work On https://matiiss.github.io/ Or archived it

[uneven pine]

It's better a discussion for when I'm not at work

[void nexus]

Which Work You doing?

[uneven pine]

Primarily server hardware work with some networking sprinkled in

[alpine tusk]

happy now?

[void nexus]

Thanks for listening me

[alpine tusk]

(ngl, that sounds a bit aggressive, sorry)

[void nexus]

Its Okay

[stoic lodge]

I forgive you

[void nexus]

Well Can i know Which Country You Belong?

[stoic lodge]

purple

[void nexus]

Damn

Well by going home TATA!

[alpine tusk]

alright, lol

ping me when you're free if you wanna continue

[stoic lodge]

I have a discussion

It's really interesting too

[uneven pine]

Will do if I remember and feel like getting political lol

[stoic lodge]

It's not political

[uneven pine]

The discussion about why I think politicians are mostly corrupt is definitely political

I promise

[stoic lodge]

NOO it's nnot, it can't be

how can it be

[alpine tusk]

what? no way

[pulsar heart]

enormous potential due to that population pyramid

on track to become one of the leading super powers by the end of the century or so

lots and lots and lots of issues, but lots of bright people come out of that place. the person who wrote their constitution is one of the few ppl I actually look up to

I dont invest in it tho, I dont want the risk premium associated with their corp gov issues

[pulsar heart]

maybe mid-century, I actually dont recall the timeline I read

[pulsar heart]

this like, a telegram bot that uses a simple mathematical model to create daily trading signals for me

I have not opened a laptop in the last 2 or 3 weeks

I quickly jotted down the math, iterated for a bit, then told the AI to write the code

it's 100% my engineering

but I wrote 0 code

we are all grieving the death of an aspect of our craft that we loved

most ppl r just still yet in the denial phase

imo

i could be wrong about this one

[pulsar heart]

this took... 1 or 2h of my time I think

cuz I didnt really vibe code it

[wooden silo]

This is pretty hyperbolic. Just because you can solve some problems this way doesn't mean AI code generation works for all tasks.

[pulsar heart]

90% of the code I used to write, I dont write it no more

[wooden silo]

Or even if it does work, writing down a sufficiently detailed spec that the code generation approach works might be more work than writing the code in the end.

[wooden silo]

For me, in my professional role, it's more like the reverse. I can use AI for maybe 10% of the code I need written.

[pulsar heart]

even if I were to get back to academia and do monte carlo particle simulation nonsense, I would not write the code by hand unless I wanted to do some creative perf optimization

[pulsar heart]

we are both making a bet here

[wooden silo]

I think simulation scripts and a large-scale fintech backend are pretty different beasts.

[pulsar heart]

I truly believe you are wrong. But, you may not be. Only time will tell

I hope you understand that if you are wrong you will fall behind and eventually have to adapt

[wooden silo]

You're free to believe that, but I'm more interested in discussing concrete points rather than our respective feelings about it.

[pulsar heart]

I see your perspective as idealistic and emotional, I am a pragmatic person interested in results above all else

I know what I see

u kno

[wooden silo]

Ok? Still doesn't change the fact that applying AI to my daily coding tasks just doesn't work.

I've tried it, it produces no useful results most of the time.

[pulsar heart]

maybe u should learn to use it

it's a skill like no other

[wooden silo]

I think I'm quite adept at using it.

[pulsar heart]

if you say so

[wooden silo]

Since it's word against word, let's maybe focus on things we can prove.

[pulsar heart]

I totally agree, and I believe only time will tell

[wooden silo]

Rather than unfalsifiable claims like "if only you knew how to use it, you'd see"

[pulsar heart]

I think discussing it is not that productive given our viewpoints and experience w/ using this tech

in 5 to 10 year time or wtv it will be, we will either be manually cleaning trash, or we will all be using AI to write code for us

[wooden silo]

I'm most inclined to believe that things will not have changed that much from today. I think LLMs will continue to be useful as a tool, automating boilerplate tasks and make information retrieval and production faster and easier.

[pulsar heart]

I reapect your opinion and believe it to be a valid viewpoint. I just don't find that outcome as likely as mine

I think this is all just the start given the GPU improv timelines I see coming out of experts

I'll 100% pivot as soon as the available info changes. but based on what I kno, that is my pred

[tardy rain]

Bad pred

We should start gatekeeping software

And by we i mean the people who know already

[pulsar heart]

r u ready to put your money where your mouth is tho

is always easy to argue for the status quo

requires no lifestyle changes u kno

[tardy rain]

How do i put my money where my mouth is

Sounds unhygienic

[pulsar heart]

short the mag7

who r blindly spending billions on this nonsense

[tardy rain]

Whomst?

Im not shorting anything lol, im trying to build retirement savings by investing in index trackers

And its kinda hard to do that nowadays

Everything and anything is in on AI

[minor ferry]

hello unc

[minor ferry]

I still believe in the sims 4 Theory of ai

if it not a sims 4 game mechanic ai will struggle

if an ai makes a mistake running as a background process in a sims like game it becames an Endearing feature

theoritically could do no wrong in such an environment

[pulsar heart]

I wanna keep arguing ad infinitum, but Im physically tired from errands

moving places is a hassle

sigh

[tardy rain]

Get a mover

Im helping my sister move tomorrow

And by helping her move i mean ahe hired a van and a guy to move things already

I'm just gonna put furniture together

[pulsar heart]

this the last batch

but my whole body gonna hurt tomorrow lmao

[smoky hearth]

we just need the auto trader who makes us 50 percent per month guys. an engine driven to learn trading its own using stochastic muzero, then add a walk forward optimization and let's make money

[pulsar heart]

I can make 20% per quarter max

and v unlikely to have multiple consecutive quarters making more than 15%

a good avg is 20% per year

hard to maintain unless u warren buffet

uuuuugggh I hate saturdays

[light hemlock]

I can barely make 1 percent

🧍

[pulsar heart]

ah, I suppose you invested in the SP500 then

[pulsar heart]

me rn

[alpine tusk]

I wish I could put money in SPY, but the stupid EU KID requirement prevents me from doing that
that said, there's CSPX and similar ETFs

and that's the extent of my concrete knowledge on the stock market

[lament cairn]

at least you know Something

[minor ferry]

what's a stock

can I have a house pls

[alpine tusk]

no, lol

[minor ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-nothing-look-at-the-time-nothing-clock-nothing-ever-happens-clock-gif-4518983960573307132

[alpine tusk]

it's what you can use as a base for (typically) a soup or a sauce

[minor ferry]

chicken stock!

[pulsar heart]

there's EU equivalents to almost every US ETF

[minor ferry]

animal stock is the cheat code for eating In poverty

[alpine tusk]

yeah, such as the aforementioned CSPX

still though

[pulsar heart]

makes no difference, why would you want the SPY anyway

[alpine tusk]

idk, it's just... popular

[pulsar heart]

,_,

thats also why its expensive

[alpine tusk]

tbf, the CSPX has a better historical average yearly growth (though it's also younger than SPY)

[pulsar heart]

check the LYP6, buy european 👍

[alpine tusk]

of course, there was COVID and stuff which happens to skew these kinds of metrics

[pulsar heart]

wdym?

they're the same

the only difference might be the fees

[alpine tusk]

I think it had an average of 26% yearly increase
whereas SPY was like closer to 20%

[pulsar heart]

probably just the fees

[alpine tusk]

when I calculated the average I took the average over all the years the funds were active during, lol

which in retrospect... anyway

[pulsar heart]

they also might have a tracking error

ah and also different market schedules

[alpine tusk]

either way, that's what I use for long-term investment

[pulsar heart]

ya im not touching the sp500 for a while

[alpine tusk]

yk what they say, time in the market beats timing the market

but then again, I'm not touching S&P500 for a while either

[pulsar heart]

time there means decades

[alpine tusk]

I'm aware

[pulsar heart]

idk if I'll get to warren buffets age lmao

also, not fun to do that way

I must gamble

[alpine tusk]

of course

you only live once yk

[pulsar heart]

did u check the ETF in USD or EUR

it makes a big diff

at least this last year it did

[alpine tusk]

last time I checked was about... 1.5 years ago

[pulsar heart]

a true bogglehead, honesly respect it

we had the april crash as well

[alpine tusk]

I think that was all over the news at the time
something about market manipulation

[pulsar heart]

IT WAS INSANE

DUDE

we were all tuning to every trump interview and tweet

he literally was telling people when to buy

I sh*t you not

I will never forget it

dude tells everyone to buy on friday

and during the weekend he announces a massive saudi deal involving NVDA

[alpine tusk]

crazy times

[pulsar heart]

I both loved and hated it lmao

like I make my bets based on whats going on and what makes sense, I know things and the market rewards me for it

at the time there was no logic to anything

it was super frustrating

and I was also learning

[jovial oriole]

⁉️💔

[lusty basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825281791950323759/1440720516758638733/attachment.gif

[pulsar heart]

https://youtube.com/shorts/a2q_7PDDy20

[crystal vale]

hi

[stoic lodge]

yo, linux is actually insane

I just installed it on a random 4gb ram laptop I found , and installed linux on it.

and now I can watch anime and shows through my terminal

[pulsar heart]

yep

hardware from the last, what, 10 or 15 years? is actually more than good enough for all the things we do

it's just the OS that has been grabbing all those extra resources for no good reason

[limber narwhal]

what are these channel names 💔

[pulsar heart]

this has been the case when I was in college, is the case today

maybe u need a top of the line GPU and extra ram to play some resource hogging game or to do some specialized work

but navigating the browser, using the terminal, and coding some stuff out, I never needed anything better than a crappy laptop

[limber narwhal]

what are ya'll talkin bout

[pulsar heart]

OS lifestyle creep

[limber narwhal]

No idea, but sounds tuff 🥀

[pulsar heart]

no but we need several times their specs to read reddit memes

[limber narwhal]

i'm interested in knowing your specs 🤔

[pulsar heart]

I barely use my laptop nowadays, I do most of my engineering work thro my phone and my notebook

[limber narwhal]

same, i have a pc but i mostly use my laptop for work

[stoic lodge]

It is even worse than that it has 4 gb ram and a terrible old ahh intel cpu

[lusty basin]

This pc would take 2 days to compile Linux om Gentoo

[stoic lodge]

well I installed mint cause this is my first ever linux device but it only took like half an hour

[lusty basin]

What is your phone?

[stoic lodge]

Phone?? I installed it on a random laptop I found.

[lusty basin]

You dont have a phone?

[stoic lodge]

I do have one

[lusty basin]

Is it android?

[stoic lodge]

Yes.

[lusty basin]

Android is linux btw

[stoic lodge]

What , I did not know that?

[pulsar heart]

those r good specs objectively speaking. it's the software that is bloated

[uneven pine]

Well. Not QUITE but it is related

[lusty basin]

Good specs?

[stoic lodge]

??

I mean it can run doom

[lusty basin]

I bet my brain could run doom

[stoic lodge]

tbh objectively good specs will be something like 16gb ram and 3090 , since its good for gaminng, work, editing anything you wanna do and isn't overkill.

[stoic lodge]

a pregnancy test cann run doom.

[tardy rain]

Theres no objectively good specs, its relative to the software youre using

[lusty basin]

128 core cpu with RTX5090 and 256 GB of RAM

[stoic lodge]

That can be true, but the closest definition to objectively good specs would be something that is best-suited for mostly everything someone could be doing and isn't overkill.

[stoic lodge]

one of those AI trainning GPUs

[lusty basin]

I think they are bad for gaming

[tardy rain]

Mostly everything someone could be doing now

In 5 years it might not be the case

4gb ram and some dodgy cpu hasnt been decent specs in 10 years now

[pulsar heart]

for basic tasks, those are perfectly good specs

as I mentioned b4

the americans took ppl to the moon with much less

soft engineers just got worse, hot take ik

[stoic lodge]

rocking a 5090 in 1969

[stoic lodge]

Optimisation got worse because it wasn't the main focus

[pulsar heart]

dont defend the nonsense we find ourselves in

it shouldnt take 16gb to load basic web pages

ya theres sec and stuff like that

but cmon

we all kno soft is bloated now

[stoic lodge]

Windows is terrible, since my linux laptop perfectly runs a web browser properly, heck I even watch shows on that.

[pulsar heart]

exactly

y u even arguing w me lmao

u have the empirical evidence in front of u

[stoic lodge]

I donn't wannna study

that's why I am onnline

[pulsar heart]

tha- that's not what i meant

like, just cuz u here dont mean u have to argue w me wdyvm 😭

[stoic lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/japan-electricity-footstep-gif-5989264115603993125

[stoic lodge]

I have to do something to avoid studying

[tardy rain]

I had a 4gb dodgy intel chip that i used for my masters

It was great

Then i lent it to my sister and she killed it dead

But also that was 2020

[pulsar heart]

honestly, I respec the confidence

[pulsar heart]

did she do it, or did the JS demons do it

[tardy rain]

She did it

[stoic lodge]

that was accidental

[tardy rain]

Did the same to her past laptops

Holding it by the screen, dropping it, etc

[harsh tundra]

how

[harsh tundra]

That's NSFW gore 💔

[tardy rain]

😔

[pulsar heart]

I do all that too

[tardy rain]

Idk how many times i told her to be careful

This shit ain't cheap

Well that one was

[pulsar heart]

ig that would explain why I had more laptops than I can count

[harsh tundra]

Sounds like a golden child who was never taught to care for their things...

[tardy rain]

Yea kinda

[pulsar heart]

nah laptops are machines

[uneven pine]

Awful

[tardy rain]

Machines or not you take care of them

[pulsar heart]

they should be able to withstand normal use

[uneven pine]

That was my kid I'd find an old laptop like I had

Semprom single core 768MB RAM

good luck

[pulsar heart]

corps should just make things to last

[tardy rain]

The only piece of tech that i broke was the laptop before this tiny one, i spilled ice coffee on it 😭

[uneven pine]

It lasts you till you can afford one better for yourself

🤪

[pulsar heart]

even this phone I already broke it

like, falls 2 times, gone

stupid af if u ask me

[tardy rain]

They dont but that doesnt mean you abuse it

[uneven pine]

I closed my drawing tablet pen in my old laptop :(

Still works fine just broken screen

i3-4030U 6G RAM

[pulsar heart]

nah I just started buying stuff that lasts

my next phone is gonna be a legit smart brick

[harsh tundra]

That's not normal use tho

[tardy rain]

Holding laptops up by the screen is probably the #1 cause of damage

[pulsar heart]

I want a machine that I can use to produce value, I dont want jewelery

[harsh tundra]

The context was #ot1-perplexing-regexing message
That's not normal use vs decorative use. That's literally trying to break shit and acting like it's normal use, then being surprised it breaks

[stoic lodge]

My younger siblinng destroyed one fo my laptop's touchscreenn by slamming it onto a door, I still don't know to this day what was he trying to do.

[pulsar heart]

a laptop should be able to withstand falling on the ground and being grabbed by the screen

[tardy rain]

In what world

[pulsar heart]

ours?

is it physically impossible to produce such a thing ?

or have we all been brainwashed by apple

[tardy rain]

Its not impossible but its not going to be a laptop at that point

[pulsar heart]

lol

[harsh tundra]

No. A laptop should only need to be able to withstand being correctly transported in a bag/backpack, and have a lasting battery. It's a portable computer, not a toy to throw around

[pulsar heart]

if they dont, I dont buy from them

I buy from the ones that do

u guys do your thing w/ ur money

[stoic lodge]

Interestinng behavior

[pulsar heart]

voting w my money, imagine that

ppl way too brainwashed tho

more than quarter century of corporate marketing that is okay to make stuff that breaks in 3 years or wtb

[stark prawn]

You can get things that loook like this instead

[stoic lodge]

Aren't these used for nnukes

[stoic lodge]

like missiles

[stark prawn]

2.5k for a laptop without a dgpu

[pulsar heart]

if u cant knock out a dude w it I dont want it

[harsh tundra]

Or maybe you're brainwashed by "gaming laptops" which are not mobile anymore but look like tanks?

I got my first laptop in... 2009 I think. It's an Asus, they were known back then to be quite reliable. Like, my older sib had a similar model (just different insides) and it worked for years. I used mine until... 2017?
It still wouldn't survive long being grabbed by the screen, being dropped, etc.
I could grab it from my closet and it will still work. (I actually planned to resurrect it as edu games laptop for a kid in the family, but a family member found a netbook perfect for that use).

[pulsar heart]

I never owned a gaming laptop, so I dont think so

[harsh tundra]

Uh, remind me how old are you? Because you always sound too young to be complaining about old times (here: "quarter century of corporate marketing")

[stark prawn]

I got one when i started college.
Still using it rn

[pulsar heart]

what does my age have to do w anything tho ?

[harsh tundra]

Whether you actually remember the times you complain about. Because you ignored a huge text of my own (+my sib's) history with laptops. With my sib's laptop that gives us literally 20y of laptop history

[pulsar heart]

anyway, you resorting to ad hominem so I declare VICTORY

[harsh tundra]

Ad hominem? XD

[pulsar heart]

this argument has been won by me

[tardy rain]

So what kind of laptops are you buying then lisan if youre voting with your money

Brick suitcase laptops?

[pulsar heart]

#ot1-perplexing-regexing message

[harsh tundra]

I just asked whether you remember that part of the tech history, because I actually lived it and it was completely different from your claims. I never said anything ad hominem

[pulsar heart]

2.5k perfectly acceptable

[tardy rain]

The kind i call in predator missiles from in cod?

You wanna toss 2.5k of any currency at a dell brick?

Instead of getting a decent laptop and taking care of it?

[pulsar heart]

as I said b4, if I cant knock out a dude w it, I dont want it

[tardy rain]

What kind of phone do you have

[pulsar heart]

I actually have a weak ahh pixel 7, BUT, when this thing dies im getting a smart brick

[harsh tundra]

Like, I know the 2 other people discussing here know that laptop history part because of their age. And they list stuff that aligns with what I said.

Vs only you, Lisan, not agreeing.
So I'm wondering if it's age thing or regional thing. That's all

[tardy rain]

You can knock out dudes with any laptop, the laptop just wont work after

[pulsar heart]

I enjoy the part where I then open it and its working

[harsh tundra]

Use the side, it's better. Any book can be lethal if you hit someone with a spine, laptops should work similarly

[pulsar heart]

maybe I just have higher standards and otherwise im at a stage of my life that I can just afford to buy new stuff even tho I rather not

[tardy rain]

They arent higher standards, theyre unreasonable standards

[pulsar heart]

#ot1-perplexing-regexing message

TALK TO THE BRICK LAPTOP NUKE LAUNCHER

[harsh tundra]

But you didn't claim higher standards. You claimed that laptops used to be tankish that "quarter century" ago that holding laptops by the screen and throwing laptops is normal use...

[tardy rain]

But thats 2.5k to be obsolete in like 5 years

Thats gaming laptop tier

[harsh tundra]

I'm only wondering if you actually lived through that part of history or just believe in some idealised version of it

Or if it was regional

[pulsar heart]

it at least demonstrates its possible

[stoic lodge]

I lived through 2020

[tardy rain]

But thats not a laptop anymore

[pulsar heart]

next thing u gonna tell me that not being able to replace my battery on my phone is normal

[tardy rain]

Can you fit that in a backpack?

It is the backpack

[harsh tundra]

Like, apple stuff was so ridiculously expensive here those 25y ago that nobody had them, they were a status symbol... So no, apple's low durability standards did not in fact influence the laptop industry XD

[stoic lodge]

I am typing this from a macbook

[pulsar heart]

as evidenced by everyone taking on worse durability standards than them lmao

[harsh tundra]

Changing topic? Moving goalposts and putting words into my mouth fallacies, now I win /s

[stoic lodge]

a macbook from 2020

[pulsar heart]

same topic. low standards for corps. high standards for consumers.

maybe just take care of your battery right eh?

[harsh tundra]

Nobody said 2020, it was a discussion about 20y-25y ago

[pulsar heart]

did u fill it over 80%?

ah thats your fault

[stoic lodge]

OK

[pulsar heart]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-too-bad-bad-nipple-rub-gif-11094454084640070891

[harsh tundra]

Not same, and you continue to put words in my mouth, while ignoring actual arguments I made during this discussion.

[stoic lodge]

I mean why would u still use something from 20-25 years ago

[pulsar heart]

corps selling us stuff that breaks in 3 years

[stark prawn]

My laptop is almost 10 years old

[tardy rain]

Youre breaking it in 3 years lol

How about some accountability

[pulsar heart]

SHUT UP my use is normal lmao

[tardy rain]

Its literally not

[harsh tundra]

Please read the discussion you join. I was talking about Lisan's claims about "quarter of century of corporate marketing"
But Lisan is ignoring arguments I (and others) have made

[tardy rain]

My laptop lasted 6 years before i killed it with coffee

My current pc is also 6 years old

[pulsar heart]

dude I once literally hung a damn laptop motherboard on my wall and used it for years

these things can 100% be made to last

they just dont

[tardy rain]

If its on a wall its not being abused by you

Congrats

[pulsar heart]

🤣

[pulsar heart]

customers dont fail, technology does

[tardy rain]

You kinda proved that you kinda failed

[thick osprey]

looks at his 25 year old laptop, 16 year old laptop, and 8 year old laptop all still running Huh, sounds like I lucked out.

[minor ferry]

hello grote

[minor ferry]

hello unc

[stark prawn]

hello

[minor ferry]

idk if your being ironic

kind of a crazy take

[minor ferry]

do you have college funds for each of your unc pads

[thick osprey]

I didn't really go to collage, so no.

[minor ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/too-cool-for-school-too-cool-glare-gif-17548365

[lusty basin]

Linux is the goat

[harsh tundra]

My childhood home had computer with fucking Windows ME running until like... 2012 or longer. Some graphics drivers eventually got fucked up. And then? The same computer got some lightweight buntu flavour (kubuntu or xubuntu? idk which at the time was considered lightest for old devices).
Another computer in that home has dual boot XP and Aurox Linux (Polish Linux distro from early 2000s)

If I didn't need to upgrade my laptop (the aforementioned one I got in 2009), I'd still be using it. But being in CS programme at uni, it was becoming harder and harder to use 32bit 3GB RAM laptop because some software we had to use didn't want to work properly...
My current laptop i got in ~2017 still is my main laptop.

[uneven pine]

Would've been xubuntu

The K Desktop Environment has always been super heavy

[minor ferry]

hello elders

windows me

the 60s where crazy

i used windows xp for a long time

[thick osprey]

Yeah. The oldest of my laptops is still around "just because". Still runs wonderfully though. I occasionally play a few levels of Doom or Dungeon Keeper on it. Win95 just keeps on keeping on.

[minor ferry]

I was poor and my pc was a few years older then I was

it just ran faster with windowx xp

it came with windows 7 installed

bad times

[thick osprey]

I feel like my work laptops are the sign that not all is made as it was. I burn through them in about two years. They still run, but they turn sluggish and unresponsive during high load work. Haven't had one burn out on me yet. Thankfully.

I suspect a lot of their issue is infosec policy bloat. But I just ask for a new one and, if I'm lucky, I get to unbox a new model for the given year.

[raw depot]

I think it's just that no one makes em like thinkpad used to

[minor ferry]

thunkpad

[raw depot]

You can still buy used thinkpads on eBay that are great computers

[thick osprey]

🤷‍♀️ I'll let you know in a few years. I'm just now working on installing and transferring all my stuff over to a new rig. Top of the line everything. We'll see if it lasts the 10+ years my current rig has lasted.

[raw depot]

I dropped one down a staircase once. Nothing happened.

what manufacturer?

[thick osprey]

Oh, I was talking about general quality of materials. The new rig is a desktop. Custom built.

[raw depot]

ah gotcha

[low chasm]

I'm not jealous of my friends that have to haul their brick of a laptop to class😩

[alpine tusk]

free exercise

[harsh tundra]

Yeah, laptops used to be portable. Netbooks, even.
When I got my newer laptop, better spec laptop was already the "gaming laptop" category. (The old Asus I mentioned had quite big specs for its time - like the 3GB ram, but was normal laptop)
Thankfully not the biggest that completely loose the purpose of being a laptop (portability), but still annoying enough.

[minor ferry]

The early Bird special must of been great today

all these old folk, out and about talking the past

The glory of days of 400mb of ram

[pulsar heart]

that's my final take on that matter. you listen if u want, dont if u dont want

i kno im right

blaming the customer for your crappy product.

lmfao

[minor ferry]

idk, I've haven't look at that hard into the consumer laptop market.

[low chasm]

I mean there's still portable laptops

[minor ferry]

but expanding that idea to different markets kind of sounds not good

[pulsar heart]

@low chasm y u skull emojing me bro, that's literally how I'll be running my business

[tropic ore]

are laptops not applicable for lap topping anymore?

no but seriously aren't they smaller nowadays or...?

[low chasm]

yeah there's still a bunch of small portable laptops

[pulsar heart]

I'll fire anyone who makes crap then comes around to blame the user

[tropic ore]

i see

[pulsar heart]

it's actually not easy to fire ppl in the netherlands

I WONT HIRE THEM IN FIRST PLACE 😭

[minor ferry]

oh yeah

those european countries worker protection laws

well, everything has trade offs

[stark prawn]

I thought we were so american like

[minor ferry]

grote are you in the netherlands

[stark prawn]

yes

[minor ferry]

grote my friend

WHAT are the secrets to your beard

[stark prawn]

don't shave

[low chasm]

you gotta put us on your beard game gang

I'm aiming for a legendary beard by the time I graduate

[stark prawn]

How's ramadan treating you?

[minor ferry]

i was eating once,

and got really sad a beard hair got in my mouth

[low chasm]

pretty good

having fun

[minor ferry]

i probably should of just washed or shampoo, my face instead of shaving

[low chasm]

fasts are pretty short this time of year

since sunset is around like 6:00

[alpine tusk]

people dying before they reach the end or what?

[low chasm]

free food everywhere too

[alpine tusk]

people dying of starvation surrounded by food must be a surreal scene

[stark prawn]

It's not that much longer of a fast than the IF many people do all year round

[alpine tusk]

IF?

[low chasm]

me and some friends were planning a spring break trip to New York, stay with some cousins, we don't need to pay for food since we're fasting, and it's easy to get free iftar and dinner during Ramadan.

[stark prawn]

intermittent fasting

[minor ferry]

It not quite the hard kind of fasting

indefinite fasting

https://tenor.com/view/kek-cat-kek-cat-laugh-laughing-gif-25202548

[low chasm]

we've got a crossover with lent this year too

[alpine tusk]

intermediate fasting

there's also basic and advanced

[stark prawn]

I was watching a vid on the benefits of fasting and i kinda wanna try a 24hr one

[alpine tusk]

yeah? what's the benefit of that one in particular?

[stark prawn]

They were talking about how it was long enough to get into ketosis, it helped clean dead cells from inside your body, and poeple have positive mental benefits

I know a friend of mine is doing it once a week and he says his brain fog has cleared

[alpine tusk]

were they selling some supplements too?

[low chasm]

I'm lowkey super productive during Ramadan

[stark prawn]

no

[minor ferry]

I'd like to think of it, as less energy is being used to digest food

more energy to think

[alpine tusk]

that phrasing is just very triggering for me

[minor ferry]

it might not even be true or as simple as that

[alpine tusk]

it triggers my bullshit detector regions in my brain

[stark prawn]

it was a video by dutch public broadcasting

they interviewed a professor to get details

i thought it was quite trustworthy

[minor ferry]

you trusted the dutch

rookie mistake

[alpine tusk]

poor Grote can't even trust himself

[stark prawn]

I'm getting help for that

[harsh tundra]

Yes. But I was still half-referencing the discussion we had before in this chat about how a lot of laptops are not like that anymore

[turbid oyster]

too poor for spotify

[lusty basin]

brave on mobile + youtube

[pulsar heart]

the netherlands feels like a quimera between europe and america

tho I'm primarily critical of the health insurance system, which incidentally was invented by an american lmao

I take no issue with the worker protection laws

[minor ferry]

I am very skeptical of the netherlands american comparisons

I think that just something said to hurt the imagine of netherlands in the eyes of the eu

[pulsar heart]

thats because you are not a european who moved to the nethetlands

even if youre skeptical of the comparison, it's just a fact that NL is just a very different place, for better and for worse

[minor ferry]

Neutral I haven't seen looked deeply into every aspect of it

but not very big on it

[pulsar heart]

90% of the time it's a very high standard of living

but it can be very bad, like developing country type sh*t even

[minor ferry]

netherland gangsters

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-minecraft-nether-sup-gif-26757983

[pulsar heart]

and it's usually just dutch institutions doing nonsense they shouldnt be doing

on paper everything actually looks very well designed and very well intentioned

the implementation however, sometimes is illegal

it's very expensive to live here, salaries are not that high, but I consider their infrastructure to be one of the best in the world.

everything is carpeted with bike lanes. every place I go except for amsterdam is very clean and well organized as well. physical health care system works extremely well

you pay for what you get type thing, is what im trying to say

[weak peak]

where gold helmet

[pulsar heart]

I complain, but after living here the only other place in the world I can live now is denmark

[minor ferry]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExeDF6b3ZwMjdzN3AzOXAxZmJ0aHIzbmZidHNnaTN0anBlN3M3czJuaCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/xu7cXdvNDsNZexEh2G/giphy.gif

get it

[weak peak]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-nahh-no-way-lmao-what-is-bro-saying-gif-16249600181008158825

[lusty basin]

man my country is like this except for the good stuff

[pulsar heart]

same for mine lmao

cuz they also have the bike lanes

[minor ferry]

you know what it could go crazy if they are deregulated as e bikes

fun but not sustainable

[pulsar heart]

I keep a crapy bike in each city I hang out. take the train otherwise

[minor ferry]

man, not dropping 27km on a snowy day on a e bike

[pulsar heart]

I use bike in every season, temperature, and weather

[minor ferry]

is a wasted snow day

[pulsar heart]

Im also vegan

[minor ferry]

man it was fun

[pulsar heart]

my carbon footprint is v small

[minor ferry]

you eat cars

[pulsar heart]

I hate cars

cuz they cause unnecessary death, pollute the environment, and are not an efficient method of moving people

we use it cuz we are status driven creatures, and cars are status symbols

they do. below a certain age car accident is one of the most likely ways to die

ppl are stupid af dude, we give them several tons of movable metal what they think they gonna do

they gona play fortnite while they drive on the highway or wtv car drivers do

we either remove the cars, or we remove the people

I rather remove the cars

we can, and we do

I think cars inside cities makes no sense

just use a bike

or bus, or tram

no, just the ones that cause a lot of deaths

guns for example

and we do make a lot of them ilegal

[minor ferry]

British excerise.

https://tenor.com/view/eric-reichert-greyson-hale-paladin-dnd-rpg-gif-12444334

[lament cairn]

What do you propose then?

[minor ferry]

stay strapped

[minor ferry]

build Muscle to support your chain mail Equipment

[pulsar heart]

to london, I use that

to NYC, I use bulletproof

[minor ferry]

there are no soultions

only trade offs

[pulsar heart]

to amsterdam, I use wtv protects you from explosions

[minor ferry]

yeah wtf, i heard that have grenade attacks a few years ago

in western european states

[pulsar heart]

theres like an explosion epidemic, like I cant even understand it

last year there was a massive explosion in the hague

[tardy rain]

I've lived in London for 5 years now and i haven't even been mugged

[pulsar heart]

not last year, in 2024

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_The_Hague_explosion

[tardy rain]

Let alone stabbed

Yes

[pulsar heart]

first thing that happened to me in London was some bloke approaching me lmao

[tardy rain]

Its expensive and you have to deal with British people but that's about it for dangers

There are better in Europe

[pulsar heart]

I attract danger tho

I dont look very strong so I get targeted very frequently

criminals are cowards

[tardy rain]

Nordics, Switzerland, the Netherlands probably, Germany Austria etc

[minor ferry]

and superstitious

[pulsar heart]

london is probly the best for salary tho

[tardy rain]

The average dev here makes like 60k and a 1 bed is around 1.5/1.7k per month

[pulsar heart]

id need a massive salary upgrade to change from NL to the UK

[tardy rain]

1 bed apartment

[pulsar heart]

a studio

[tardy rain]

Aren't you British

Apartment sizes usually go by# of bedrooms

You get a kitchen and at least a bathroom and then however many bedrooms

Studio means no bedroom

The bed is in the same room as the kitchen

[vale raven]

Oh

[tardy rain]

Its kinda small

For most people

[vale raven]

I always thought “studio” meant big

[tardy rain]

Yes it feels like a hotel room

Or a student dorm

[thick osprey]

Studio just denotes the layout, not the size.

[vale raven]

I see

[pulsar heart]

I thought the 1 bedroom thing was a studio

,_,

UK is a european country

just not in the european union

[tardy rain]

For work you need a visa

For study you just need a rich family

[pulsar heart]

the european union is like a hybrid of a federation and a normal collection of allies

[tardy rain]

Probably easier than that

[pulsar heart]

much easier, I recall reading about it

[tardy rain]

The salary limit is around 40k nowadays

[pulsar heart]

it actually makes sense how the UK does it

the US just goes BRRRRRRRR lottery

im referring to the h1b ofc

[tardy rain]

The easiest way is to study here i think

But it's not the cheapest

[pulsar heart]

probly good to finish your studies and get a degree

a BSc is like 3 years

ya thats complicatwd

[tardy rain]

Maybe 5 if you're doing it part time

[pulsar heart]

but you have to understand its not gonna be easy either way

like, to get hired without a degree you need to be good

and to be good you have to put in as much time as you would for a degree

could be a way, get exposure to tech, climb your way up

ya makes sense

[tardy rain]

There are part time degrees

[pulsar heart]

it's possible, many ppl do it

[low chasm]

it's like a hotel room

so it's not like your bed is right next to the stove

well, i guess it depends on the studio

[pulsar heart]

check if there are workarounds

for ex in portugal if you above a certain age, you can just do an exam instead of having to complete high school

[tardy rain]

You shouldn't have dropped out of school

People don't say stay in school as a joke

[low chasm]

it's like, there's no bedroom

[pulsar heart]

life sometimes dont give u no good choices

[low chasm]

mm, my friend's studio is like, when you open the door, immediately on your left there's the kitchen, bathroom to the right, and a small corridor at the end of which it opens up into a bigger room with his bed, desk, etc.

no separate bedroom or anything, it's like one big room.

i mean it's not like every hotel here has a kitchen and everything either

[pulsar heart]

some hotels are like that but I think most dont have the kitchen thing

[tardy rain]

Most studios here are just boxes

https://www.zoopla.co.uk/to-rent/details/72409278/?search_identifier=c0d33506dde7ae7fe8c783e503f50d85c3a64ada364c67717d04a8072a435201&console=open&tab=floor_plans

They suck and are not worth the money

May as well stay in a houseshare

[pulsar heart]

houseshare better yea

[low chasm]

found this off of google

will probably give you a better idea

[vale raven]

You know, TBH, that’s enough for me

[tardy rain]

Its not shen

[thick osprey]

Studios can be really nice when they have the floor space.

[pulsar heart]

the one big argument is that there is less to clean

[low chasm]

if you live alone yeah

[vale raven]

Why not?

[tardy rain]

Its one big room

Bed in the kitchen is a nightmare

[thick osprey]

They aren't bad with a group either. Social dynamics aside.

[vale raven]

And all of my activities being on the Internet

I just need room for a chair

[low chasm]

well, there's definitely worse studios

and a lot better ones too

[tardy rain]

If it was a 700sqft studio with nice big windows sure

[pulsar heart]

the problem is that they still are kinda pricey imo

[tardy rain]

But not some 250sqft matchbox

[low chasm]

yeah it's probably cheaper to just get roommates

[pulsar heart]

here a studio can easily go double of a houseshare

[tardy rain]

The one i posted is 300sqft @£1440pcm

Thats 17k a year

[low chasm]

damn

[tardy rain]

To sleep with the dang kitchen smells

[low chasm]

do you live in london

[tardy rain]

Yea

[low chasm]

square feet

[low chasm]

with utilities?

[tardy rain]

Usually no

[low chasm]

🥀 300sqft is tiny for that price

hm but maybe it's probably normal for a city

[tardy rain]

Just internet included it says

[pulsar heart]

imagine measuring area with feet, silly non continental europeans

[tardy rain]

It should be normal anywhere tbh

They won't even rent to you if you don't make 35x monthly rent per year

[pulsar heart]

so does quentin tarantino

[pulsar heart]

you mean 3x right ?

[tardy rain]

No, 30ish x

[pulsar heart]

dafuq

[tardy rain]

Per year

[low chasm]

so like, 45k?

[carmine apex]

rent is 1000 per month
fella makes 3000 per year
SOLD

[tardy rain]

Ye

[low chasm]

what are salaries like in london

or well, the uk in general

[pulsar heart]

ah okay

thats a very weird way to calculate it tho

[tardy rain]

When we got our first apartment it was a 1bed at 1575£ a month

They wanted 32x annual total combined

Thats 50k, we were making 49k at the time

Had to lie to get it

[carmine apex]

the 32ish idea seems rather reasonable, but you'd think they'd be at least somewhat flexible on that exact number

[tardy rain]

A network admin has to live 1h away at least and with 7 other roommates

[tardy rain]

They probably were but we were new to this nonsense

[pulsar heart]

so dont be a net admin in london

[tardy rain]

The new meta for surviving in london is to be in a relationship and split costs

[carmine apex]

feel like a network admin would be the type of job that tends to be not difficult to remoteify

[tardy rain]

The more the better

[pulsar heart]

I think thats everywhere tbh

[tardy rain]

Start a polycule for the london savings

[pulsar heart]

if u can manage a py job that would be a golden ticket

I finally checked out of my last airbnb. now have a perm place. very relieved

cuz then u have work exp

getting a job in py opens you to more opp in SWE

the sys admin helps, but not nearly the same thing

[thick osprey]

don't aim for a "job in python". Aim for a technology position. Far more experience to be had and the roads can lead where you want them to.

A way to rephrase my statement: Don't limit yourself and miss good opportunities.

[pulsar heart]

nah I'd aim for a normal soft job if that is a serious possibility

the higher up u start the less you have to climb afterwards

[thick osprey]

I suppose. Though, the illusion of the climb is just that and you'll spend just as much time doing the climbing.

[pulsar heart]

an unmentioned detail tho, is that if u find a good employer they'll let you grow into a coding role

most employers r not good tho and will try to box you in

[lusty basin]

horrible

[vivid burrow]

I will share something i'm reading that is very worth https://www.meaningcrisis.co/episode-1-introduction/

Its a series of videos but i enjoy reading it more

[vague skiff]

Here

Is a design of my upcoming animated series' main character

[minor ferry]

evening unc

[minor ferry]

A new personal record In Orgional characters drawn with clothing on, with this one

[vague skiff]

The animated series' name is Oddie's Odd Odyssey

Which can also be renamed to Oddie's Bizarre Adventure

[minor ferry]

how big is this

in square feet

or

square meters?

yes square meters

[uneven pine]

I lived in a smaller studio than this for two years

It was fine

[minor ferry]

do you remember the sizein square feet by any chance in hell

[uneven pine]

180

[minor ferry]

Christ I don't know if your serious

[uneven pine]

I am

It was a fucking closet

But cheep and in a really nice location

And I didn't have much stuff

[minor ferry]

I really want an unfurnished room with just enough space a desk, with 3 monitors and a bed

[uneven pine]

That's basically what I had

[minor ferry]

eLITE

but just enough space for

[uneven pine]

Even had a partner over a couple of times

It's not so bad

[minor ferry]

a Small matress, a second nightstand

*SECOND small table

[uneven pine]

You won't get that in 180sqft

[minor ferry]

i think it was you who sent me

this website that was a really good resource for artist

or maybe I found it myself, after exaiming Theodyseeys work

[uneven pine]

Not sure what your are referring to

[minor ferry]

nvm mind

did you have room mates

[uneven pine]

In the shoebox? No obviously lol

[minor ferry]

lol, I didn't even concieve it could be an individual unit

I thought you where being litterally when you said it was a closet

like a closet in someones home

[uneven pine]

No it was a standalone studio apartment

[minor ferry]

am sorry to bother aunt it probably not a very good question

but its hard for me visualize how much space is 680feet

[lusty basin]

square?

[minor ferry]

do you have an answer

yes

[minor ferry]

how many bananas layed out on the floor side to side is that

[uneven pine]

Lmfao

[minor ferry]

lol

[uneven pine]

Go look up virtual tours of similar sized places

[lusty basin]

63m² (680ft²) is very fine

[carmine apex]

https://t4america.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/empty-parking-lot-michigan-1024x683.jpg this is from michigan

assuming standard american spaces sizes, the concrete slab is probably on the order of 36' x 22.5', or about 800 sq ft

[minor ferry]

oooo

[carmine apex]

at roughly 18x9 each, four of the yellow spaces are probably together about 648 sq ft

the driving lanes in between the rows look to be about the same 18' length as a space

[vague skiff]

What do you think about my main character OC, Lochayla

[lament cairn]

Pretty sure she blocked you over your insane rambling

[minor ferry]

I will ask here if I can forward your message to her

[hardy mural]

why first off topic channel is less active than the other ones

[minor ferry]

The first off topic is for more stable converastions

The second off topic is for more sparatic converastions

and the third off topic is for wordle

[lament cairn]

Timezones maybe? 1st is more active when I'm here

[uneven pine]

My discord has been age restricted.

[minor ferry]

ot0
ot1
ot2

[uneven pine]

I can no longer enter new NSFW marked chats

[hardy mural]

who follow this

[uneven pine]

I can however visit ones I was already in...

But I'm out

Officially done with the platform now.

[minor ferry]

Take care

I think peanut left too

[lament cairn]

I'll assume you tried out client mods already? Good luck out there

[uneven pine]

My DMs are restricted lol

[uneven pine]

Nope. Don't care to

They don't want me here I won't be here