ot1-perplexing-regexing

[spare prawn]

yep

im

now I'm playing honkai star rail

[foggy wagon]

xD

[spare prawn]

yes good game

[foggy wagon]

emii be like "programming done me go play:3"

[spare prawn]

dude I am working from 9 am

I am also learning excel too

and making projects

[foggy wagon]

cool

[spare prawn]

yep

see my profile @foggy wagon

[foggy wagon]

cool

[ripe birch]

is that kafka girl from honkai?

i like her vivaldi inspired theme

*song

[spare prawn]

she's castorice her dragon is so cute and beautiful @ripe birch

I will show you

[ripe birch]

i didnt ask if she is her lol

i asked which game kafka is from

[spare prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/castorice-dragon-casto-dragon-atk-casto-castorice-ultimate-castorice-ult-gif-11055420038751799730

[spare prawn]

honkai star rail

[spare prawn]

it's her dragon

[ripe birch]

how come no one from genshin got themes

[spare prawn]

honkai also got some anime collab

[rough sapphire]

I willing to make a Linux app in python for the freshmen who came into linux
in python
Anyone how is willing to contribute, DM me

[jagged gyro]

I'm just wondering, does this server have an official position on using AI personally for helping with coding? not talking about vibe coding, but more something to assist you, and answer questions. getting back into coding after stopping for 5 or so years and I want to get up to speed quickly

[paper quest]

I don't think there's an "official position", but most people's advice would probably be never trust, always verify, use tools responsibly. If you think you can do that, go nuts IMO.

[woeful phoenix]

I don't think we have an "official" position
but a common sentiment among experienced folks here (which I agree with) is that it's better to not use it if the goal is learning, since using it to provide you code or debug your code, even if it's "just" pointing out the problem, robs you of opportunities to exercise that thinking on your own and learn.
and if you have questions, you'll get much more accurate answers asking humans (here) than AI.

[jagged gyro]

yeah, it definitely comes down to the way in which you're using it. theres a fine line between having it explain a library or principles to you vs having it do thinking/work you would've otherwise had to do in building something

and for me personally, I want to rebuild a strong foundation, but at the same time it looks like these tools could potentially make me much more efficient

[paper quest]

I guess one litmus test you could use is, are you planning to use AI to bridge gaps in your knowledge, or to jump chasms? The latter is hard to do safely.

[jagged gyro]

thats a good way to look at it

[paper quest]

Apart from the fact that it can be hard to evaluate, yeah 😛

[jagged gyro]

it definitely requires honesty with yourself lol

[pseudo zephyr]

I pretty much stopped using AI besides for tab auto complete. It wasn't making me smarter and the time savings were debatable

[rough sapphire]

Try new new app : clue

https://github.com/omartech104/clue

[tardy rain]

why do you define some functions in the loop and others outside of it

[rough sapphire]

to avoid visual issues

but did you try it

[tardy rain]

no

[rough sapphire]

just try it

[tardy rain]

i have no use for it

and also im on windows

[willow kayak]

Alot of wording for a 50 lines app...

[lament cairn]

i propose a new measure of code quality

docs to code ratio

@rough sapphire

>>> len(clue_code)
1999
>>> len(clue_docs)
2009
>>> len(clue_docs) / len(clue_code)
1.0050025012506254

You: ✅ Passed

seriously though i dont think anyone's gonna "just try" a script that connects to some random API

like i didnt know about cheat.sh until 5 mins ago when i saw your repo

[vale raven]

What about the 10 line function that needs three pages of docs or the 1500 lines of models for an API spec that have autogenerated schemas so nothing is hand written?

[lament cairn]

count em anyways

who told you to make such big apis

L

/j btw

[shell raptor]

https://github.com/omartech104/clue/blob/main/main.py#L14-L16
this seems like the only thing that prevents the program from running on windows?

[royal lake]

main.py lines 14 to 16

if pltform == "win32":
    running = False
    print("This program only runs on Linux")```

[lament cairn]

based

[vale raven]

Not mine
FedEx and UPS

[lament cairn]

arbitrary platform restriction in linux's favor

[tropic ore]

i love how the clear console command handles windows even though the program doesn't

[uneven pine]

Submitting a PR to make it work only on windows

Vast improvement

[thick ore]

W

[quasi blaze]

A great tip

[spare prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/yellow-emoji-no-no-emotiguy-no-no-no-gif-gif-9742000569423889376

[thick ore]

nah

this is so redundant

keezy are you on linkedin again

[quasi blaze]

Yes

I see nothing wrong with the suggested code structure

[young shoal]

this seems fine

[thick ore]

i mean the API_VERSION part is good

but the endpoints object is redundant

i see no advantage

[marble bay]

once you have a large enough number of endpoints, having them all in one place is better for reference

[young shoal]

with the latter, you get editor support. no possibilities of typos. if you want to change an endpoint, you don't have to rewrite all the calls

[thick ore]

ok i see

[young shoal]

you can of course go even further and abstract out the api.method functions

[thick ore]

yea

at that point you can write something that registers the routes for you

[grave cove]

that is one way to do it

[jade oar]

@crystal spruce how are you doing with uni?

Top class?

[rough sapphire]

the purpose of this app is for the newcomers to linux

[lament cairn]

there's a man command

it shows docs for whatever command has one (practically all of the frequently-used ones)

[rough sapphire]

in my opinion, clue is better

[rough sapphire]

Relax, BRO, Relax

can u just try the app

without making fun of me for God's sake

[ripe birch]

Hello Viv the vive coded coder

[ripe birch]

Ah i think i can understand what technique it uses for the coloring

[thick ore]

new account?

[rustic thistle]

wanna see if ur right?

[ripe birch]

Yessir

Hopefully the last one

Forever

[thick ore]

why are the colors washed

like... shouldnt the black text be black

[thick ore]

nice

[rustic thistle]

i honestly have no clue

[ripe birch]

Wait imma think more first

[rustic thistle]

k

ill put it in spoilers if any1 wants to see

[ripe birch]

@ripe birch
@scientific.method
@fathom musk
And other 2 not in this server lol

Gosh im such a uhhhh degenerate for having this many accounts

[thick ore]

relatable

i had like 5 previous online personas before having to stick to interrrp because it's attached to too many things

[rustic thistle]

||first i used pillow to make a thumbnail, then saved the image and switched to ski to get the individual pixels in a np array, switched those to hsv, then used the hue to chose between the 6 different hues in a terminal (8 counting black and white), the saturation to switch between the more or less saturated versions or just straight up black, and then finally i used the value to switch between different opacity unicode block characters, all of which had a white backgroundç||

[ripe birch]

Oh, its different than what i guessed

[rustic thistle]

rlly?

what did u guess?

i also || tried making it work with higher values by having a decimal exponential to the value that had a range between 0-1 but for some reason didnt wanna work||

[ripe birch]

My guess was quite wrong tho
I guessed that some spots were not colored at all but some had lots of dots and some had a solid block of color

So depending on how dark a color is, the more dots it will have
This explained why the black/grey were solid color blocks instead of dots but i also spotted some green blocks which are solid instead of dots so there goes that theory

[rustic thistle]

the value u got right

thats the value

[ripe birch]

https://youtu.be/gg40RWiaHRY?si=g3UFbVzRxqLUFfUF
Btw, this vid is very nice

[rustic thistle]

ill check it out later

i got class now

[ripe birch]

It will teach you about contours n stuff

Sure

[rustic thistle]

i got a couple mins b4 class

but ye at least u guessed better than my cs teach who thought itd be best to use rgb values

[rustic thistle]

so i was watching the video and figured out with my current system it'd involve a bunch of data loss

cuz id have to switch out the block characters with the line characters

and therfore lose the current method of determining value

and i cant be arsed to redo rhe whole thing

i spose the next thing to do is render video

[upper flower]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smile-shyboos-smile-gif-24233810

java you quit java?

[thick ore]

No

i prefer python for now

[upper flower]

java will remember this forever...

💔

oh java.. oh java.. thou gave rise to a traitor amongst thou'

[sharp jasper]

*gavest
also "amongst thou" is incoherent, "amongst" expects a group but thou is singular

[languid cargo]

Should "amongst thou" be replaced with "Amongst ye" instead?

I haven't read any Shakespeare for 30 years, but I like that. It sounds piratey.

[spare prawn]

i wanted 100 wpm

[marble bay]

Don't increase your burst speed; having a consistent pace helps improve wpm for me

[spare prawn]

[rustic thistle]

Amongst thee actually

[late orchid]

I hate how they just pick random words instead of somewhat coherent sentences

[rustic thistle]

it now renders video

[grave cove]

there’s a mode that picks from famous quotes

[languid cargo]

Some would definitely say "amongst thee". And it sounds right to me (here in Yorkshire FWIW). But those tables listed "thee" as a singular.

[rustic thistle]

thee is both plural and singular

@languid cargo

[languid cargo]

Ah, thankythee.

[tranquil elm]

could someone help me here? https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/1418619499938316368

[foggy wagon]

@viral parrot bro

[honest star]

2011: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21315305/
2020: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7438811/

[ebon shell]

incredible researhc

[worthy oracle]

of course it's japanese authors on soy sauce

[honest star]

also yes, the issue is the sodium

[ebon shell]

yeah its just fuck ton of sodium

[honest star]

too much of it starts fucking with your brain function

[ebon shell]

LOOK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THEM /j

admittedly i totally would OD on soy sauce while eating sushi

[low chasm]

what's the ld50 of buldak instant ramen

[turbid oyster]

6g/100ml

[ebon shell]

A 40‐year‐old woman presented to the emergency department with seizures and remarkable hypernatremia with a serum sodium concentration of 183 mEq/L. The initial brain computed tomography scan showed brain shrinkage, which could occur during the acute phase of hypernatremia. We reduced her serum sodium level rapidly, rather than at the recommended slow rate. On day 3, the patient’s brain computed tomography scan showed widespread low‐density areas and edema. The patient died 8 days after admission.
WAIIT THIS IS A REAL CASE

i thought it was on like rats or smth

[turbid oyster]

but hey, 10.5g of protein and 60kcals

[ebon shell]

japanese people fr be ODing on soy sauce

[turbid oyster]

tren is still better tho

[woeful phoenix]

you should watch ChubbyEmu

[ebon shell]

no

[turbid oyster]

oh dear you havent seen southeast asians

[ebon shell]

i think i can see myself

oh wait no im turning invisible

welp cya

[worthy oracle]

ld50 is 3000mg/kg body weight... which is like 150g for a 50kg person, which is like 100 spoon of soy sauce (back of the paper calculation)

[turbid oyster]

the quote that estrogen posted sounds like a chubbyemu vid

[low chasm]

soy sauce is used in pretty much every east/southeast asian country isn't it

although i do think their soy sauces differ somewhat

[ebon shell]

they do?

[low chasm]

yeah

[turbid oyster]

some have alcohol even kek

[honest star]

there are nuances to soy sauces

[turbid oyster]

theres sweet ones and bitter ones

the sweet ones are usually halal

[ebon shell]

soy sauce is soy sauce

theres good soy sauce and bad soy sauce

[honest star]

One of my fave and most trusted recipe creators gets super specific when saying what kind you need

[low chasm]

they can differ regionally, based on country/cuisine, or in their seasonings and whatnot

[turbid oyster]

uncle wang gang

ifykyk

[honest star]

https://www.recipetineats.com/soy-sauce/

[ebon shell]

bad soy sauce (maggi)

[honest star]

Everything on recipetineats is amazing, Nagi is GOAT

[ebon shell]

okay dark soy sauce can barely be considered soy sauce

[low chasm]

my goat nagi

i love recipetin

[honest star]

it literally has soy sauce in the name

[ebon shell]

thats why i said barely

[honest star]

It's literally very solidly soy sauce though

Like no one is calling dark soy sauce barely soy sauce

It's just soy sauce

[ebon shell]

i once accidentally put dark soy sauce instead of soy sauce

[turbid oyster]

this guy has the absolute most sweaty techniques i've seen

[ebon shell]

tasted completely different

therefore

not soy sauce

qed

[honest star]

yeah, there are different types of soy sauce. Just because they're different from each other doesn't make it not soy sauce

The point is that there are different kinds of soy sauce

[turbid oyster]

i get 2 mi goreng indomies and use both packs along with a bit of added soy sauce

[honest star]

What kinda "no true scotsman" argument is this even?

[ebon shell]

there are different types of soy sauce i juts barely consider dark soy sauce a different type of soy sauce :)

[harsh tundra]

Maggi isn't even close to soy sauce imo, despite the ingredients being similar - it tastes like lovage

[low chasm]

indonesian soy sauce is pretty sweet isn't it

[turbid oyster]

then i fry 2 eggs and sprinkle the yellow liquid with salt

[turbid oyster]

yeah, the halal ones re the sweet ones

[low chasm]

i see

[ebon shell]

put the soy sauce into the yellow liquid

[turbid oyster]

chinese arent halal, because they contain alcohol, which is why they taste bitter

[turbid oyster]

i tried to, tastes bad, also it's the yolk, i forget its name a lot kek

[ebon shell]

i mean like japanese soy sauce and what you get from like

a chinese restaurant

is different

but like slightly different

[turbid oyster]

p*nda e*press

[ebon shell]

sorry i dont speak american

[turbid oyster]

we dont even have that where im at rn

[tardy rain]

Pandas would never actually make or deliver food

[turbid oyster]

explain kung fu panda then

[ebon shell]

ez the crane makes the food

[turbid oyster]

bruh

[ebon shell]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-as-that-clash-royale-hee-hee-hee-haw-gif-25054781

[turbid oyster]

i love seafood

mainly because im in northern morocco

we get a shit ton of seafood here

[plush rain]

They are scrumptious 🤤

[turbid oyster]

https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/1354#issuecomment-3312075965

[ebon shell]

same vibes

[turbid oyster]

furry transfem kek

[ebon shell]

mfs when fourier transform

[turbid oyster]

fr

[ebon shell]

WAIT A SECOND I KNOW ONE OF THE POEPLE IN THAT THREAD FORM A DISCORD SERVER

[turbid oyster]

?????????? who?

[brazen ingot]

pokemon players are furries

[ebon shell]

not teling you

[ebon shell]

true

[turbid oyster]

oke

[jaunty wraith]

https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/1354#issuecomment-3312885823

[quasi blaze]

Let’s talk about grammar.

How would you correctly use “God forbid” in a sentence?

For example:

“God forbid, no murders in my community this year.”

Wouldn’t that be a double negative?

Should it be written as:

“God forbid a murder in my community this year.” ?

[jaunty wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[jaunty wraith]

"God forbid we have less spam"

[grave cove]

Bro might actually just be the bay harbor butcher

[jaunty wraith]

It's usually a vent

[quasi blaze]

So you want god to forbid less spam. Meaning you wish for more spam?

[grave cove]

Yeah these days it is usually used sarcastically

[grave cove]

You use it to mean the opposite of that you want

it is not the proper usage but it is common and people will know what you mean & it has a humorous tone

[sharp jasper]

pd.read_pickle(dill)
pd.cut(carrots, julienne)
pd.melt(cheese)

[jaunty wraith]

English is a language with more exceptions than rules
Don't look for sense it it
||Linguists, don't @ me)||

[grave cove]

Chemistry type shit

[tardy rain]

its sarcastic in that sentence

[quasi blaze]

Ah

[grave cove]

For your original question the second one is technically correct but sounds weird

[woeful phoenix]

you usually use "God forbid" with a declaration instead of an imperative where you tell God to forbid something. so "God forbid there's a ... this year".

[quasi blaze]

Ahh this makes more sense

[sharp jasper]

These examples seem strange to me because I rarely hear "God forbid" as a standalone sentence. It's usually parenthetical, like, "Nobody likes to pay for insurance, but if (God forbid) some bozo t-bones you in an intersection, you'll be glad to have it!"

it's a thing people say almost superstitiously, like some people knock on wood when talking about a bad thing that might happen

[raw zephyr]

God forbid a man tries to use a phrase sarcastically

[sharp jasper]

I guess I've seen the sarcastic version standalone? it's probably regional

[raw zephyr]

I think it's basically saying that you'd like to do something

but you're facing obstacles put forward by other people

or at least that's how I've seen it used

"obstacles" could be anything, anyone trying to prevent you from doing [thing]

or could be the universe, you wear a nice suit and then stumble and fall on a puddle

god forbid i try to look good

[sharp jasper]

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/workout

this is sarcasm, not the superstitious use I mentioned earlier

[turbid oyster]

idk why but irl i feel ashamed to talk to rich people unless theyre family because duh

[sharp jasper]

how do you know if people you're talking to are rich?

[turbid oyster]

it's apparent; most rich people where I live display it

it being their wealth

[warped sentinel]

Does that mean that rich people who don't display their wealth don't exist because you don't see them?

[turbid oyster]

they exist, because their parents pick them up in nice card; there's not a single rich family/community that cheaps out where I live

and it's always some real estate investor or some shark

[warped sentinel]

so you do see them flaunting it then?

[turbid oyster]

yes

[warped sentinel]

how would you recognize them if they don't flaunt it?

[turbid oyster]

their personal items, like phones

or ipads and whatever

[warped sentinel]

what phones would they use?

[turbid oyster]

latest (any brand that they want)

[warped sentinel]

if they don't like to flaunt it, why would they care about always having the latest and greatest phone?

[turbid oyster]

social constructs ig

[warped sentinel]

aren't wealthy people beyond social constructs of the poors?

[turbid oyster]

not everywhere

[warped sentinel]

Sure, there are nouveau riche and people trying to make up for shortcomings.
But these aren't the people who don't care about flaunting it in the first place. So why would they care about abiding by the poors' social constructs?

[turbid oyster]

dont ask me ask them
i was once almost one of them

[warped sentinel]

I mean, you said you can detect rich people because it's apparent. I am trying to understand how it works when they don't make it apparent

and all the examples provided were examples of people flaunting their wealth

[turbid oyster]

iirc flaunting is making something apparent right?

i'm not a native speaker

[warped sentinel]

yeah something like that

[turbid oyster]

outside they make it apparent, i got a scholarship at a private school for compsci and all i feel is shame ngl

people getting picked up in porsches, limos, etc

i'm an intern at the school meaning im at a dorm

[warped sentinel]

why do you care?

[turbid oyster]

i used not to, but it's become something that gets to me

[warped sentinel]

if anything, you should feel pride of reaching the level where you can mingle with high worth people

[turbid oyster]

i wish lol

im the only one in a dorm

my class calls me intern but i just shrug

[warped sentinel]

it's about you, not them

[woeful phoenix]

does intern mean you work for them?

[turbid oyster]

nope, it comes from the french word "internat"

at least in this context

basically "dorm kid"

[woeful phoenix]

I see

[turbid oyster]

yeah i guess

[woeful phoenix]

is this a university?

[turbid oyster]

nope, high school

[woeful phoenix]

you have comp sci specialization at the HS level?

[turbid oyster]

yep, tho not fully, about 2h/week

[warped sentinel]

you can always reply to them how it's awesome you can wake up so late and do not have to commute, or how they still live with mommy and daddy...

[turbid oyster]

true, but keep in mind that everyone folds under monetary influence, even the staff

so i cant really do anything other than wake up, cook, shower, go to my classes and go to my dorm

[warped sentinel]

like what?

[turbid oyster]

but hey, i get 500Mbps fiber optic here

[turbid oyster]

principal, teachers, even the fuckin janitors kek

[warped sentinel]

what about them?

[turbid oyster]

but janitors' folds are acceptable, they don't get paid as much

[turbid oyster]

they fold under monetary influence, so if i talk shit about one of the rich kids to their faces, they'll just cry about it and ruin my scholarship

[warped sentinel]

how would that happen? Do you live in an authoritarian state?

[woeful phoenix]

I guess they'd get kicked out of the school

[turbid oyster]

im not part of trump's experimental server (the USA), im in morocco

[turbid oyster]

yep

also corruption is wild here

you can kill multiple people with your car or a machete and get away with it if you bribe the cops

guns arent allowed here, only cops get to have 9mm pistols

[warped sentinel]

well, if you live in an authoritarian state, then sure

[turbid oyster]

im in a corrupt country

[young shoal]

unlucky

[woeful phoenix]

hmmm
I think I had more hours of CS a week than that in my HS, and it wasn't a specialized one or anything

[tardy rain]

all countries are corrupt

[turbid oyster]

we don't get as much time

[turbid oyster]

thanks passive static voice message

[raw zephyr]

what is this country if you don't mind me asking

i legit thought myanmar

[snow pebble]

?

[latent scaffold]

they said Morocco

[raw zephyr]

hmm

don't know much about morocco to be honest

[mossy mango]

any of y'all use haskell

I'm trying to learn it lol

any suggestions on a good resource to start r with

[mossy mango]

me either unfortunately

[shell raptor]

https://learnyouahaskell.github.io/chapters.html

[mossy mango]

thank you!

[vale raven]

Hello,
WHY?

[vale raven]

Wait -- That's the complete opposite end of the spectrum
Are you just learning?

[upper flower]

grrrrr

guys

vish me luck

[undone granite]

good luck

[upper flower]

aren't u gonna ask for what

[undone granite]

the interview

right?

[upper flower]

huh

how do u know??

[undone granite]

I was reading the chat this morning

[upper flower]

dang

nvm

thx

im a little nervous since idk what is gon be in the interview

and idk how to prepare for it

[balmy oriole]

i am so tired

but i do not desire to sleep

what shall i do?

[mossy mango]

opposite of what?

[vale raven]

Haskell is all strict, R is all dynamic

[vapid nymph]

Hai all

And those who use star imports

[jade oar]

Hey @crystal spruce are you using nvim on windows or are you using linux

[crystal spruce]

neither

[thick ore]

yooo terminal desmos

bit nicer visuals

[brazen ingot]

no can do

[thick ore]

woah why not

[brazen ingot]

i mean theres no coordiantes elsewise its good if it can plot non elementary functions

the script?

[thick ore]

uh it's rust

[thick ore]

what does that mean

atm it only takes in y=??? or x=??? functions

i have no idea how i'm gonna do more complex ones

[brazen ingot]

just 2d? oh then i can see how my projectiles go

[thick ore]

https://github.com/interrrp/plotme/blob/main/src/main.rs

the code is bad but it works

in hindsight i should've done this in python so i could use eval

[woeful phoenix]

that is pretty nice

[thick ore]

thanks lol

[young shoal]

oh there is evalexpr

[acoustic moss]

marching squares or sthn

[marble bay]

Write a macro

[thick ore]

excuse me

what

[marble bay]

I didn't read through the code 💀

[turbid oyster]

i love this
when can i spray it with chlorine gas

[crystal timber]

c is hard or ez

[turbid oyster]

ez if youre familiar with the syntax, preincluded libs dont take a lot of time

[crystal timber]

oh ok thx

[thick ore]

im never going on 4chan bro 🤦

it can draw (thick) hyperbola now

[worn stream]

@foggy wagon kinda of like this so the game will be on one side or an app and u do changes on left

[cerulean mica]

tl;dr u want to make a mini game engine with live code change feature ?

[foggy wagon]

okie

[foggy wagon]

hell nah

[worn stream]

nooo like im saying lets say im building an app or a game and like i wanna keep it running or it should be on on side and i make changes thro code ykwim

[foggy wagon]

u still need to run it

manually

[worn stream]

i see

thanks

[turbid oyster]

lol

[rough sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-griffin-eating-popsicles-gif-14042339

[spare ravine]

sleep

sleeeeep

[quaint glen]

popsickle

yumm

[honest star]

fedora KDE users... for some reason the scroll via touchpad in just discord is wildly fast. Is there any way to adjust this?

[woeful phoenix]

I'm not sure (I only use Discord in the browser), but I would try forcing it to render using Wayland
see https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Discord#Native_Wayland_rendering

[lofty bolt]

you use linux.......

and I think it is a setting in the settings(system) to change scroll speed

[naive stump]

Hi 👋 trying to raise awareness for PyBay. https://pybay.org/

[raven cipher]

decided to check 9gag again

Now, Iremembered why I deleted my 9gag account

[uneven pine]

9gag still exists?!

Man nobody who was cool ever went on that site

That was the site for losers even during its heyday.

[solemn tulip]

TIL that's how heyday is spelled

[harsh tundra]

Well, it's not about hay

https://tenor.com/view/hay-hello-there-gif-25072593

[turbid oyster]

hay day is a game

[shell raptor]

"The blue wire goes to..."
checks labels
"...blue, and the purple wire goes to..."
checks labels
"purple. I see"

[harsh tundra]

Those rooms are currently named with their wall colours. And it was also accidental that they were put in there in that order so it matched when I decided to make cables into a rainbow :3

[shell raptor]

oh I see

I missed the next message

you could color code radio networks by broadcasting them over visible spectrum...

[harsh tundra]

The labels are "up(stairs)", name of sib (that's why I censored it), "heat pump" (meaning just basement, but cable exits just by the heat pump and was originally connected directly), "kitchen", and then those two rooms.
This panel is in our main bedroom, so we just connect directly to switch there if needed

Upstairs labels are not that clear as before we renovated downstairs, we just had two cables with silver and gold sharpie (and later grey and yellow sleeve) to mark which is which... So two labels are "silver" and "gold", lol. (Both run downstairs, but one is currently connected inside the wall)

[harsh tundra]

I'm home and this is NOT my cat XD

(We had a cat move into our barn. Then she showed us 2 kittens. One disappeared at some point... It's now 3 months later. This is the kitten who's still here. And who decided to try to hang out with our cats.
Today I was joking he got replaced bc he was never this cuddly!)

[paper sequoia]

The cat has adopted you

[harsh tundra]

Yeah. His mommy was easier to dissuade from coming to us, but she's cuddly to everyone who can offer food.
But she managed to understand how to get down our kitty ladder. (We have a wooden construction to allow our cats to come and go onto our 1st floor balcony. Previous summers, we'd just leave the balcony open.)

This kitty can go up, but can't go down, so we had to let him in via balcony and let him out downstairs. XD
So far he was kinda reserved, fleeing from humans unless you cornered him or caught him when he was eating... So this behaviour today is really weird.

[tardy rain]

The audacity of cats smh

If i walk in some random's house and sit down and chill on the couch with them i get yelled at and escorted away by police

[harsh tundra]

Well, they first let us get familiar with them in the barn, it's not like they just decided to get into our home instantly

[marble bay]

"and when I do it, it's wrong"
-Gary Brannan, circa I don't remember

https://youtu.be/RC2qosa3Wjo?t=377

[uneven pine]

The bounciest man on the internet!

[solemn tulip]

that's Gray, not Brannan 😭

also good to know I'm in good company with techdif readers

I need to make some website with transcribed episodes where I can look up techdif quotes when I want to refer to them

techdifomicon

techdifnomicon?

[uneven pine]

Shit you're right

Now I feel awful

[solemn tulip]

I have acquired subtitles

[solemn tulip]

wonderful

[timid latch]

nice! used the youtube api I assume?

[solemn tulip]

for legal reasons I will say yes

[timid latch]

or does that not expose transcripts

https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/docs/captions/download

[solemn tulip]

good enough, techdifdump done
https://algmyr.se/techdifonomicon/

only like 7MB of stuff

[languid cargo]

Matt's a legend

[raw zephyr]

can you turn this into an SSG?

so that people can make their own transcripts for whatever channel they like

[solemn tulip]

the logic involved is quite easy, if you manage to get video metadata and the subtitle files, generating something like this is pretty trivial

like, my python code is ~100 lines

[raw zephyr]

yeah but you already did it

[solemn tulip]

and includes a quick and dirty srt parser

[raw zephyr]

maybe I can use the SRT parser I wrote a few months ago

[solemn tulip]

the only info needed to generate this stuff is an srt file (+ the video title and video id)

[solemn tulip]

here is the python code, minus some text content I replaced
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/QMMQ

bring your own data, adapt what you need

(the only other stuff left out is my stylesheet and an 8-line makefile that would do the data gathering)

[lament cairn]

bonus content

[shell raptor]

is that a... cog?

dat?

[lament cairn]

fops

[green breach]

It's not a gato nor a perro; it's a Pato!

[languid cargo]

They look like a cat wolf

[wooden silo]

So if you combine a dog and a cat, you get a duck?

Spanish logic.

[willow narwhal]

You get a cog, obviously

[wooden silo]

Different languages have different views on grotesque unethical genetic experimentation, it seems.

[languid cargo]

dat cog

[solemn tulip]

cag dot

[upper flower]

dog cot

kitkat

[rough sapphire]

coat dod

[green breach]

Hey Dementati! It's been ages since I've seen you on, how have you been?

[wooden silo]

Hey, I've been good, thanks

I got other stuff going on sometimes, but I pop in here now and again

[frozen crane]

@pseudo zephyr Washington DC has excellent public transit

[pseudo zephyr]

i didnt know that 🙃

[frozen crane]

most people use it to get to work instead of private vehicles. I only drive my car once a week or so.

[pseudo zephyr]

do you use the beltway?

[frozen crane]

the beltway is just a ring highway. I drive on it sometimes.

[bleak maple]

In re: a different Discord server where I'm helping out, is there a super-lightweight way to implement a #roles channel where users can 'react' / 'un-react' to things to opt into roles? Or is that always a whole persistent bot I need to host?

It's a friend's server and I want to be really careful about opting him into dependencies he doesn't understand.

[turbid oyster]

you can use discord's builtin chennels and roles thingy

[vale raven]

Having buttons in a channel requires a bot
You can add role buttons natively in id:customize
See https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/11074987197975-Community-Onboarding-FAQ

[turbid oyster]

not necessarily reactions but it does give roles based on what you select

[bleak maple]

Oh, thanks; I didn't even know such a thing existed these days!

Thanks to you both.

Oh, dang, requires Community mode. Not sure if my buddy is going to be down for that.

Or is this saying that despite the name of the feature, it's now available to all servers?

The sentence about it isn't that wonderful.

[turbid oyster]

community mode makes the server publicly discoverable

but not many people are gonna join since the discovery tool is dogshit

so inv links are your main way

@shadow jetty

fyi this is inside the windows terminal, fully in python

[shadow jetty]

right, but render some video -- i need to see fps

[turbid oyster]

aight sir

[turbid oyster]

alr gimme a dollar

couldnt figure out video playback using sixels

the dollar is for the image which could be considered a frame

[shadow jetty]

lol

💵

[turbid oyster]

lol im making my own rules

[turbid oyster]

tanks
now i have enough money to do something

[latent scaffold]

How are you getting such crazy resolution?

Is this just a terminal with an insane amount of cells?

[shadow jetty]

no, it's sixel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixel

[latent scaffold]

yeah I'm reading this and not quite sure I understand but very cool I guess

[shadow jetty]

it just a way to transmit bitmaps with ansi

[latent scaffold]

this is so hard to read

my poor brain

[woeful phoenix]

@rough sapphire as far the LKMP selection process goes, I think if you complete all the tasks successfully you have nothing to worry about, you'll get in

[rough sapphire]

thanks mate. will let you know, if i have anything further more. thanks again

[bleak maple]

You know what is super weird? I promise this is about programming, and maybe even Python.

I am not trying to insult anybody, but the way most (Japan-based) Japanese devs I've worked with write code is.. Not that pretty?
Like.. crazy sometimes?

...and I have always struggled to reconcile this with how intentional my beloved Japanese peers are in all other parts of life?

Like, this is the culture that has two sites for their holiest shrines so they can tear them down and rebuild them every 20 years in parallel to ritually purify them?

I have no mental model for why their code isn't aiming at similar targets.

You wouldn't believe the Matz code in old Ruby etc.

(I love Matz and would jump in front of a bullet for him maybe, but no I wouldn't hire him)

[raw zephyr]

have you seen japanese websites

[wooden silo]

The impression I have of Japanese people and technology is that they have this outdated retrofuturistic image of what technology is, and they are hopelessly behind on anything that doesn't fit into that image.

Like, they love humanoid robots, but efficient and easy ways to pay for stuff is not cool enough.

I imagine that this translates into training for tech jobs.

[tardy rain]

Blame gurren lagann for their mecha obsession

[wooden silo]

Bruh, their mecha obsession was born ages before gurren lagann

It exists due to their mecha obsession, it didn't cause it

The first gundam came out in 1979

[tardy rain]

Dang i thought gurren lagan was older than 2007

😔

Ok im blaming gundam youre right

[wooden silo]

Nothing that looks that good is that old

There were several popular mecha works that predated Gundam even, though

[tardy rain]

I dont like mechas, havent watched any

[wooden silo]

The first widespread manga seems to have been released in the 50s

[tardy rain]

How old are power rangers

Super sentai is 1975

[bleak maple]

Fun fact; the "missile swarm" trope from anime, where you fire a ton of small ones and they fly around etc, is called an "Itano Circus", because Itano invented it for Gundam and then it went huge in Macross/Robotech

Ultraman is 1966

[wooden silo]

That 1975 show seems to have been the first popular incarnation of the concept

[bleak maple]

This is actually the real OG though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassador_Magma

M A G U M A ~ T A I S H I

Slightly before Ultraman, and Osamu Tezuka is lord.

[stark prawn]

I believe they were supposed to be teenagers

[raw zephyr]

i've never watched super sentai

[bleak maple]

and this is 1957 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Giant

[raw zephyr]

but sentai looks more fun

[wooden silo]

Seems like the actual power rangers was an American franchise based on the sentai genre rather than a specific Japanese work, didn't know that

[bleak maple]

I grew up on Science Ninja Team Gatchaman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_Ninja_Team_Gatchaman

[stark prawn]

It was gonna be today but just found out they delayed it 😩

[raw zephyr]

wdym? isn't power rangers just the american adaptation of super sentai

or is that more recent

[wooden silo]

I mean, "super sentai" is a genre, not a specific work

There isn't a Japanese original of the show the power rangers

There's just the genre

[raw zephyr]

perhaps the original mighty morphin

[wooden silo]

Oh, no, wait, you're right

Super Sentai is a franchise

[raw zephyr]

but a lot of the power rangers are based on japanese Super Sentai seasons

[wooden silo]

Tokusatsu is the genre

[wooden silo]

No, you're right, Power Rangers is based on Super Sentai

[upper flower]

@wooden silo

up for it?

[wooden silo]

Hi, sorry, I'm going for dinner now

Might be back later tonight

[upper flower]

ight

[crystal spruce]

me when i go to prove a lemma about some object for a part of the question, realize that the object involved was defined in a prior part of the question, scroll up to the prior part, and realize the prior part is literally the lemma i am proving

[brazen ingot]

extremely based recursion

[amber sigil]

Anyone knows any API I can use to get animes (like MAL, but not being MAL, their API is just bad and incomplete)?

[late orchid]

incomplete?
I don't think that any other anime sites have more data than it

[amber sigil]

most animes don't even have synopsis or their number of episodes... which is what I want from the api

[late orchid]

got some examples?
(of animes they lack that info)

[amber sigil]

Kimetsu

Naruto

Sakurasou

any of them :d

[tardy rain]

Naruto, one of the biggest mist popular anime, missing a synopsis?

[amber sigil]

ye

[late orchid]

are you sure you didn't just forget to specify it in the returns fields parameter?

[amber sigil]

Pretty sure ```py
MAL_API_FIELDS = [
"id",
"title",
"main_picture",
"start_date",
"end_date",
"synopsis",
"num_episodes",
"status",
"genres",
"media_type",
]

[late orchid]

for Kimetsu GET https://api.myanimelist.net/v2/anime/38000 I get ```
{'id': 38000, 'title': 'Kimetsu no Yaiba', 'main_picture': {'medium': 'https://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/1286/99889.webp', 'large': 'https://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/1286/99889l.webp'}, 'start_date': '2019-04-06', 'end_date': '2019-09-28', 'synopsis': "Ever since the death of his father, [...manually removed for brevity...] [Written by MAL Rewrite]", 'num_episodes': 26}

[amber sigil]

wat

[late orchid]

which ID did you search for?

[amber sigil]

I only get that when I try to search for it

Like using the /animes?q=Kimetsu

[late orchid]

that is just from ```py
import httpx
import os
client = httpx.Client(headers={"X-MAL-CLIENT-ID": os.environ["MAL_CLIENT_ID"]})
fields = [
"title",
"start_date",
"end_date",
"synopsis",
"num_episodes",
]
resp = client.get("https://api.myanimelist.net/v2/anime/38000", params={"fields": ",".join(fields)})
print(resp.json())

(idk why it included fields I didn't ask for but )

[amber sigil]

there are some default fields

also no idea what httpx is there :d

[harsh tundra]

Httpx is one of the libs for handling requests. Similar to requests lib

[amber sigil]

but when I use that route /anime/{id}, it always comes with num_episodes and synopsis as null

[harsh tundra]

Show code?

[amber sigil]

erm

project is kinda...

[harsh tundra]

That's not code, that's your file list

[amber sigil]

yes, but I dunno what to show, lol

[harsh tundra]

My guess:
Did you pass the fields you had above somewhere when doing the request? Or directly parse to the models you showed?
If yes, it probably cut the other fields to only include those you listed

[amber sigil]

class MalService:
    def search_anime(self, query: str, page: int = 1) -> MALPagedData:
        env = get_env()
        client_id = env.MAL_CLIENT_ID

        params = {
            "q": query,
            "limit": MAL_API_LIMIT,
            "fields": ','.join(MAL_API_FIELDS),
            "offset": (page - 1) * MAL_API_LIMIT,
        }

        res = fetch(
            MAL_API_URL,
            headers={"X-MAL-CLIENT-ID": client_id},
            params=params,
            schema=MALPagedData,
        )

        if not isinstance(res, MALPagedData):
            return res.json()
        return res

    def find_anime(self, id: int) -> MALNode:
        env = get_env()
        client_id = env.MAL_CLIENT_ID

        params = {
            "fields": ','.join(MAL_API_FIELDS),
        }

        res = fetch(
            f"{MAL_API_URL}/{id}",
            headers={"X-MAL-CLIENT-ID": client_id},
            params=params,
            schema=MALNode,
        )

        if not isinstance(res, MALNode):
            return res.json()
        return res
        
```yes, yes

the search one works, the find one doesn't

same fields and params

[harsh tundra]

Yeah, you limited the fields via params, that's why the other stuff came as null/are later read as null

[late orchid]

what are the MAL_API_FIELDS?

[harsh tundra]

Don't give the fields

[amber sigil]

that's how requests works

[harsh tundra]

Posted above

[amber sigil]

I do need the fields

[harsh tundra]

Not all params are required

[late orchid]

the default fields don't include the synopsis iirc

[amber sigil]

if I don't have it, I'll get jsut the default ones

[harsh tundra]

Oh, so use the fields etrotta used in the example above

[late orchid]

oh you were passing those?
hmm...

[amber sigil]

I'm also storing the other ones though

this is fetcher, before anyone asks ```py
import requests
from typing import Optional, Type, Dict
from pydantic import BaseModel
from fastapi import status
from app.exceptions.fetch import FetchException

def fetch[T : BaseModel](
url: str,
method: str = "GET",
headers: Optional[Dict[str, str]] = None,
schema: Optional[Type[T]] = None,
**kwargs
) -> requests.Response | T:
try:
response = requests.request(method, url, headers=headers, **kwargs)
data = response.json()
except requests.RequestException as exc:
raise FetchException() from exc

if response.status_code == status.HTTP_418_IM_A_TEAPOT:
    raise FetchException(status.HTTP_418_IM_A_TEAPOT, "The given api was too silly.")
elif not response.ok:
    raise FetchException(response.status_code, data)

if schema != None:
    return schema.model_validate(data) 
else:
    return response

[late orchid]

weird, seems to work for me
double check if your schema thingie isn't messing it up?

show the schema class

[amber sigil]

from pydantic import BaseModel
from typing import List, Optional

class MainPicture(BaseModel):
    medium: str
    large: str

class Genre(BaseModel):
    id: int
    name: str

class MALNode(BaseModel):
    id: int
    title: str
    main_picture: Optional[MainPicture] = None
    start_date: Optional[str] = None
    end_date: Optional[str] = None
    num_episodes: Optional[int] = None
    synopsis: str
    status: Optional[str] = None
    genres: List[Genre] = []
    media_type: Optional[str] = None

class MALPageInfo(BaseModel):
    next: Optional[str] = None

class MALPageNode(BaseModel):
    node: MALNode

class MALPagedData(BaseModel):
    data: List[MALPageNode]
    paging: MALPageInfo```optional everything

even the ones that doesn't make sense are optional here

[late orchid]

yeah weird, does it really not gives you the synopsis if you server.find_anime(38000)?
you're usinghttps://api.myanimelist.net/v2/ for MAL_API_URL right?

[amber sigil]

MAL_API_URL = "https://api.myanimelist.net/v2/anime"
MAL_API_LIMIT = 9
MAL_API_FIELDS = [
    "id",
    "title",
    "main_picture",
    "start_date",
    "end_date",
    "synopsis",
    "num_episodes",
    "status",
    "genres",
    "media_type",
]
```yeap

[late orchid]

show what exactly it responds?

[amber sigil]

2 sec

anyone gimme an id

[late orchid]

38000

[amber sigil]

wait, sec, I changed some stuff and somehow I broke everything

synopsis
  Field required [type=missing, input_value={'id': 38000, 'title': 'K...'}], 'media_type': 'tv'}, input_type=dict]
    For further information visit https://errors.pydantic.dev/2.11/v/missing``` bc I removed the optional from synopsis (kinda important, so I'd rather just have an error rn)

                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/workspaces/thonk/backend/.venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/tortoise/models.py", line 735, in _set_kwargs
    raise ValueError(f"{key} is non nullable field, but null was passed")
ValueError: num_episodes is non nullable field, but null was passed
```If I add that optional, then it just fails on the db

it's both fields

[late orchid]

debug what was the exact request and response

[amber sigil]

is there a python debugger for that?

debug printing doesn't seem that fun to me

[late orchid]

they're fields in the response

[amber sigil]

{'id': 38000, 'title': 'Kimetsu no Yaiba', 'main_picture': {'medium': 'https://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/1286/99889.webp', 'large': 'https://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/1286/99889l.webp'}, 'start_date': '2019-04-06', 'end_date': '2019-09-28', 'status': 'finished_airing', 'genres': [{'id': 1, 'name': 'Action'}, {'id': 46, 'name': 'Award Winning'}, {'id': 13, 'name': 'Historical'}, {'id': 27, 'name': 'Shounen'}, {'id': 37, 'name': 'Supernatural'}], 'media_type': 'tv'}
```I just printed on the fetcher

[harsh tundra]

In the search query animes?q=<name> or the direct anime/<id> query?

[amber sigil]

detailed route with id

[late orchid]

yeah I really don't get why that wouldn't include the synopsis if you have it in the fields

e.g. running with VSCode's debugger, it errors and pauses here
using the Debug Console, I can print the request url (including params) and response

maybe triple check if you didn't make a typo somewhere? idk

[amber sigil]

I'm using fastapi though, dunno if there's any debug stuff with it

[late orchid]

just create a new file, import the class and run it directly

[jaunty wraith]

?fields=id,title?

[late orchid]

yes, that is intentionally excluding the synopsis from the fields to show the error

[amber sigil]

{
    "id": 38000,
    "title": "Kimetsu no Yaiba",
    "main_picture": {
      "medium": "https://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/1286/99889.webp",
      "large": "https://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/anime/1286/99889l.webp"
    },
    "start_date": "2019-04-06",
    "end_date": "2019-09-28",
    "num_episodes": 26,
    "synopsis": "Ever since the death of his father, the burden of supporting the family has fallen upon Tanjirou Kamado's shoulders. Though living impoverished on a remote mountain, the Kamado family are able to enjoy a relatively peaceful and happy life. One day, Tanjirou decides to go down to the local village to make a little money selling charcoal. On his way back, night falls, forcing Tanjirou to take shelter in the house of a strange man, who warns him of the existence of flesh-eating demons that lurk in the woods at night.\n\nWhen he finally arrives back home the next day, he is met with a horrifying sight—his whole family has been slaughtered. Worse still, the sole survivor is his sister Nezuko, who has been turned into a bloodthirsty demon. Consumed by rage and hatred, Tanjirou swears to avenge his family and stay by his only remaining sibling. Alongside the mysterious group calling themselves the Demon Slayer Corps, Tanjirou will do whatever it takes to slay the demons and protect the remnants of his beloved sister's humanity.\n\n[Written by MAL Rewrite]",
    "status": "finished_airing",
    "genres": [
      {
        "id": 1,
        "name": "Action"
      },
      {
        "id": 46,
        "name": "Award Winning"
      },
      {
        "id": 13,
        "name": "Historical"
      },
      {
        "id": 27,
        "name": "Shounen"
      },
      {
        "id": 37,
        "name": "Supernatural"
      }
    ],
    "media_type": "tv"
  },```This is from search (yes it's from swagger)

[late orchid]

!e import urllib.parse ; print(urllib.parse.unquote("?fields=id%2Ctitle"))

[royal lake]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

?fields=id,title

[jaunty wraith]

oh, sorry, I misread your message

[late orchid]

ok so it has synopsis and num_episodes there

[amber sigil]

you can show your client id, I can be trusted with it :d

jk, don't do that

[late orchid]

tbh I'm not sure if it was actually secret whatsoever, they have the separate secret which you really shouldn't share, but the client id is public in oauth I think?

[jaunty wraith]

does the client ID include your MAL ID somehow? if not, I don't see how it could leak much

[amber sigil]

I'm too lazy to check that, but better be safe than nothing

[vale raven]

Yeah
Client IDs get exposed all over the place

[raw zephyr]

on an unrelated note

how am I supposed to implement searching from these anime sites?

MAL and Anilist both have this problem (although I think Anilist is a bit better?). But god.

All the API endpoints use anime IDs, how am I supposed to give the user a list of shows based on a string search?

[vale raven]

Store a map of ID to name

[raw zephyr]

that sounds like a hack

Surely the API sin't that crude, but idk anymore.

I gave up lol.

That was a 3-4 years ago.

[harsh tundra]

All? The code discussed above used animes?q=<string> node first.
So if there's a search node like this, you'd search with string. And get id from that. And then get details you need from normal anime/<id> node

[lofty bolt]

What do I tell my boss if I deleted their source code commited and pushed and deleted all their git history and backups?

by accident ofc

[raw zephyr]

I'll take a look at it when I feel like working on something like this again

[raw zephyr]

can you get severance pay after this?

i'd count on that

[lofty bolt]

whats that?

[raw zephyr]

name is self-explanatory i guess

[lofty bolt]

well, is it same as my salary and how long is it?

[raw zephyr]

depends on the company i guess

[lofty bolt]

Amazon?

[raw zephyr]

i don't know anything about it

[lofty bolt]

I mean I only dleted source code for their Payment/checkout stuff

so nothing major

this is just a joke btw

[raw zephyr]

I know

[bleak maple]

Huh. I had never noticed somehow that the OS/2 Warp source code got released on a BSD license.

I wonder if anybody has taken the ball and run with it.

Oh, never mind, this is a cleanroom rewrite as BSD, not useful to me.

Must be something spooky in the code:

[mossy mango]

have you guys read about the kepler telescope

it's really interesting how it detected about 700 new planets

I'm not sure if they are 100% sure if they are planets or not

but it detected by looking for light dimming when a planet went in front of a star it was orbiting

was watching a nova documentary on it

the documentary is on possible life on other planets

they also said they've found no organism on earth that can survive without liquid water

which is interesting 🤔

they said that the more frequently a planet transits (which kepler tells us) the hotter it will be, so they are looking for ones that orbit about as often as earth

[bleak maple]

Kepler owns

Did you see THIS though? https://www.sciencealert.com/giant-stars-with-black-holes-inside-them-may-have-been-detected-for-the-first-time

[mossy mango]

kepler-22b is one they found

[bleak maple]

Chris Cornell was so ahead of his time.

[mossy mango]

i haven't seen that

sorry for the bad quality

i think that's supposed to be the relative size of jupiter/saturn, kepler-22b, and earth

[mossy mango]

so they aren't actually stars but gaseous spheres?

[bleak maple]

I guess that's a good way to put it; like, a star-density accretion disk?

I'm on this fun server and interesting news like this comes across there pretty often.

[mossy mango]

oh that looks cool

[bleak maple]

It's called Asymptotes | Technological Singularity, not sure if it's community browsable actually..

I would hope so?

[mossy mango]

that's a funny server name

i think one thing that makes them a little unsure about kepler-22b is that it might not be wobbling

and I think the more it wobbles, the more likely it is to be solid?

i didn't know how they detect black holes, interesting

A Balmer break is a sharp change in the spectrum of an object in space occurring in the ultraviolet part of the spectrum, where shorter-wavelength light on one side of the line is much lower in intensity than the higher-wavelength light on the other side of the line.

i wonder if any of the kepler data is available to download

[bleak maple]

Actually I ran into another fun space thing that it sounds like you might be interested in

Geminga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q5nAlFww_0

https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/ESA_is_hot_on_the_trail_of_Geminga

Not to spoil the video, but the fascinating thing I learned here is that "what a pulsar looks like" to us is just the orientation of it relative to us.. like, whether we see it as an X-ray source, a gamma source, etc.

They turn out to spray different things at different angles

[mossy mango]

ooh

gonna watch that

watching it now

what does a positron do?

[bleak maple]

Usually run into an electron and get annihilated as far as I understand.

[bleak maple]

If anybody has ever told you that "size", "cardinality", "extent", "volume", and "probability" were different ideas, they lied or were misinformed.
Check out Measure Theory to know more.

[warped sentinel]

context is everything

[bleak maple]

Dang, don't just spoil the whole summary of Measure Theory for them!

[thick ore]

i have come to the conclusion that everything is contextual

[bleak maple]

It depends.

[thick ore]

EXACTLY

[bleak maple]

Man, sometimes you just know you are on the right Discord:

[mild abyss]

hi

[crystal spruce]

i tab out for one second and my desmos fucking explodes

[weak peak]

seems normal

[bleak maple]

Cool butterfly. This is one of those Rorschach things right?

[worldly ice]

dad?

[bleak maple]

Wait, WHAT?
https://d.vxtwitter.com/amXFreeze/status/1972284213232861204

[pseudo zephyr]

I've noticed that on OpenRouter as well. I don't really understand why it's so popular. It may be an international thing?

[sullen delta]

nothing is random

[sullen delta]

which server is this?

[bleak maple]

Asymptotes | Technological Singularity, not sure if it's 'community' browsable or not.

[bleak maple]

Maybe it's super cheap and they are losing money on it? I haven't looked at the relative pricing at all.

[vapid nymph]

its currently free on GitHub Copilot.

because its in preview

[bleak maple]

OK yeah so "loss leader" tricks

[vapid nymph]

Yeah

I tend to use it to write code but then it does such a bad job that i end up rewriting the whole thing

git checkout HEAD -- file/it/modified

is a common command

[bleak maple]

Maybe you could have it do that for you automatically haha

This is kinda funny, re: LLMs.. This has been one of my test prompts since I guess like 2022, right?

and I just tried it with the latest ChatGPT:

...and ChatGPT is just garbage now haha

[timid latch]

I meeeeean.... That's kinda fair? Unless a previous prompt suggested it should invent an answer it kinda makes sense for it to assume you were talking about a real repo

[bleak maple]

IMO it should ask for clarification rather than having even searched the web etc.

[little zephyr]

hi, I am using python for the first time and I am trying to make my own Jarvis from scratch, I have the Text to speech finished I need help into making his modle lable and brain

[bleak maple]

I guess if I add "from Terminator" to the prompt it would work better etc.

[timid latch]

I mean it's being more and more optimized for actual work task, which in most cases a PR refers to a real pr

[bleak maple]

Yeah, I guess that's a big difference vs 2022

But actually, the "before it goes live" clearly describes a future event, so I feel like it's unambiguous still if it had read me carefully.

I didn't say "before it went live" etc.

[shell raptor]

Any suggestions for books/blogs/etc. if I want to learn LaTeX?
I've used LaTeX for a bit but it was mostly a patchwork of copying StackOverflow answers into the document. I feel like I'm lacking some fundamentals or a coherent mental model of what's going on

would it be a good idea to learn TeX first? Since, as I understood it, LaTeX is a collection of hacks on top of TeX

[bleak maple]

First thing that comes to mind is to NOT try to conquer setting up a good local version at first, but to just learn it online via https://www.overleaf.com/

As a software engineer already, you have some power moves you can use, by way of analogy..

[shell raptor]

I have successfully conquered installing latex in the past

[low chasm]

what do you need latex for? I'm no expert, but I've found that I've gotten by very well after spending a couple minutes looking up the basic syntax and piecing the rest together as I use it.

[shell raptor]

namely installing the 3GB texlive package from the distro's package repository

[bleak maple]

One way to think of LaTeX commands (\command{argument}) is as function calls and of environments (\begin{environment}...\end{environment}) as scoped blocks of code. Your doc's preamble, where the packages and settings go, is like an import section in a program.

[low chasm]

granted all I use it for is typesetting math in my school notes, as opposed to writing anything like an actual paper.

[bleak maple]

https://www.overleaf.com/learn/latex/Learn_LaTeX_in_30_minutes

and https://tobi.oetiker.ch/lshort/lshort.pdf

The latter is quite good.

[shell raptor]

Idk i just want to look into it

I used LaTeX somewhat successfully in the past, but only when I needed a lot of math formulas. I'm thinking that maybe I want it for typesetting books or long blog posts or something like that.

[bleak maple]

I haven't really used the former but I'll read it now.

[shell raptor]

I'm actually reading this right now

[bleak maple]

Porting your resume to LaTeX can be a "fun" way to grind out learning it.

I personally do mine in self-contained single-file html+css

But LaTeX is popular too

[bleak maple]

Oh snap, when does Astral cut me the check?

[vale raven]

What platform is that?

[vale raven]

How do you export to PDF?
Or do you submit your HTML file?

[bleak maple]

LinkedIn

[vale raven]

is for jobs

[bleak maple]

Print to PDF in Chrome

[bleak maple]

Not for me. It’s for reaching out to amazing old colleagues I’m not elsewhere connected to.

[vale raven]

When did LinkedIn become Facebook?

[grave cove]

always

hate it now that im actively applying for jobs 💔

[bleak maple]

When Facebook went bad, so long ago haha

I had my job title set to “Philosopher” until recently to avoid recruiter spam

[vale raven]

LOL, I just pulled up my LinkedIn and I see KRRT replying to someone bitching about how bad AI code generation is, with an advertisement for AI code review

[vale raven]

Oh?

[grave cove]

wild shit

[grave cove]

yeah

tis recruiting season

[vale raven]

nice

Oh look here's Aboo

Oh shit LinkedIn gives birthday wishes now

[woeful phoenix]

You should check out Typst

[bleak maple]

Oh yeah? New to me, thanks.

[bleak maple]

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jacob-barandes-on-indivisible-stochastic-quantum-mechanics/id1406534739?i=1000719490981

This is so good. Super crunchy but both dudes are incredibly smart.

[undone granite]

Just finished setting up a self-hosted github runner and apparently it doesn't run jobs in parallel 😬 https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/26769

It seems like I have to setup multiple runners in the same machine, and each runner will be assigned a job, what a waste

[wicked haven]

Really interesting scripting language built in
-# although it has some weird quirks like re-evaluating the scripts 5 times or until the document state settles

[lament cairn]

you good?

[uneven pine]

They're far better than if they were using vim

[thick ore]

dude thats like 60 years

[uneven pine]

Let them cook

[wicked haven]

I'm thinking about writing a library for arbitrary length binary rationals

Does that answer your question

[lament cairn]

fair enough

[wicked haven]

I should stop getting distracted from my compiler tbh

[jovial oriole]

Another 32g of protein

30 more to hit daily intake

[tardy rain]

Based technique

Tuna kinda bad tho

I prefer sardines

[jovial oriole]

also based

Game recognizes gamd

insane protein/weight ratio

i also really like the selenium

[tardy rain]

I tolerate tuna in sandwiches, but its kinda yucky by itself 😔

[jovial oriole]

yeah

Mayo and tuna sandwich slaps

[uneven pine]

I like tuna in general

But eating a can of it alone is real sad hours

[lament cairn]

do you add any seasoning? or do you eat it raw

[hollow badge]

raw meat is based

[worldly ice]

Seasoning doesn't make it not raw

[lament cairn]

I meant without seasoning

[worldly ice]

I ate a can of refried beans once just on its own

[bleak maple]

Actually the best steak I've ever had was raw; wagyu carppaccio at a yakiniku place in Tokyo.

[turbid oyster]

I hope your pillows are cold throughout the whole night

[timid latch]

(that's a good thing right? Cold pillows are nice)

[bleak maple]

https://vxtwitter.com/defiler/status/1972796549706194973

Wilson Bilkovich (@defiler)

Did you know that 1970-01-01 is not the original UNIX epoch date?

At first, it was 1971-01-01, and used 60ths-of-a-second instead of 1-second intervals, but they quickly realized that would overflow in less than 2.5 years, and UNIX v1 changed it to the current value we love.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Sep 29, 2025, 10:52 PM

[vale raven]

"love"

@bleak maple I trusted you

Where BlueSky??

[bleak maple]

https://bsky.app/profile/defiler.bsky.social

Wilson Bilkovich (@defiler.bsky.social)

Space Barbarian. Software Engineer. Feminist. Reader. I like languages for machines, humans, and others. The gods made Heavy Metal and it's never gonna die.

Bluesky

I have some mutuals on X that are impossible to replicate on the modern web, so I use both.

Still working on building up the BSky thing.

[vale raven]

Quick question

How do you pronounce your name

[bleak maple]

"Bill Koh Vitch"

very phonetic

I guess it's "Bohemian" or modern Czechia etc?

Oddly my genetics are from elsewhere but there was some re-marriage going on.

Genetically I'm basically the people that the Milesians found already living in Ireland in the mythic age haha

[vale raven]

no no

The other part

[bleak maple]

"Will Sun"?

[vale raven]

"whilesone"?

[bleak maple]

Oh I been plaaaayed

[vale raven]

(I'm just bored and making dumb jokes)

[bleak maple]

[vale raven]

(though I was actually curious)

[bleak maple]

There's a great anime (Maison Ikkoku) where one of the characters has a name that can be pronounced in a few different ways, based on the characters it is written with..
...and every time he hands his business card to someone, he says "It's written XYZ, but pronounced ZYX", in some different way haha

Never the same way twice

This type of video is why YouTube is still a thing for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8WXvDLofL8

This kid needs a real-time OS so badly in this video it's scary, see if you can count the number of times his Arduino's non-determinism bites him

[vale raven]

Have you seen this channel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KS02q0BUnY

[bleak maple]

100% yes, and it's awesome.. it was kinda the coolest music hack I had seen before the above piano thing, which is utter madness and I'm amazed the streamer isn't dead

The floppotron doesn't risk bodily harm every time you work on it haha

[bleak maple]

It's fiiiiiiiine

Analogies to the dot-com bubble are totally unfounded, who even said that?

https://tenor.com/view/calculus-cat-cat-math-studying-cat-gif-23164559

[mossy mango]

@cerulean mica

guess where this is from

[cerulean mica]

no damn clue but it aint mine

[undone thorn]

looks like a cake

[gaunt yew]

Here is how I explain the galilean transformation "I am just going to repeat it one more time. x' and x represent the same object just one is in the moving frame and the other is the stationary frame position? I apologize if I got it wrong"

For the Lorentz transformation the same logic applies as the Galilean transformation, just the object shrinks in size for the moving object compared to the stationary frame. And time gets longer for the moving frame vs stationary frame? Please ping on reply

[high verge]

Here’s a clearer explanation.

---

Galilean Transformation

In Galilean relativity, space and time are absolute. If you have two frames:

• S (stationary frame)
• S′ (moving frame with constant velocity (v))

The position of the same object in the two frames relates as:
[
x' = x - vt
]

• (x): position in stationary frame
• (x'): position in moving frame
• (t): time, the same in both frames

Key point:
Both observers see the same object at the same time, but they assign it different coordinates because one frame is moving relative to the other. Space and time don’t change between frames in Galilean transformation.

---

Lorentz Transformation

Special relativity changes the picture because the speed of light (c) is constant for all observers. Space and time mix together. The Lorentz transformation is:
[
x' = \gamma (x - vt), \quad t' = \gamma \left(t - \frac{vx}{c^2}\right)
]
where
[
\gamma = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1 - v^2/c^2}}
]

Differences from Galilean case:

• Time is not the same in both frames. Observers disagree about when events happen.
• Lengths along the direction of motion contract in the moving frame.
• Time intervals dilate for the moving clock.

---

Your Statement Adjusted

You were right that (x) and (x′) describe the same object, just in different frames.

But for Lorentz transformation:

• Length contraction: A moving object’s length (measured along the direction of motion) appears shorter to the stationary observer.
• Time dilation: A moving clock ticks slower as seen by the stationary observer.

So, the logic is similar in that both transformations relate two coordinate systems, but in Lorentz transformation, both space and time coordinates change in a coupled way due to relativity.

Would you like me to give a simple example with numbers, like a rod moving at high speed, to show how length contraction and time dilation appear?

[bleak maple]

Hopefully someone with more credentials answers you, but to me the intuition is just that the "t" that was the same in both frames in the Galilean model is now different for each frame.

Oh, and indeed there's a long writeup above.. but for me it's just "t is different for the two frames, and that changes everything"

[gaunt yew]

Just give me a second to absorb the info

[bleak maple]

Also that writeup above looks like AI-generated to me

Which we don't love having people post here

At least in the context of Python answers

[gaunt yew]

Isn't that basically what I said above just less detailed

[bleak maple]

Well, if you wanted a Yes/No answer, "Yes".

Enjoy!

[gaunt yew]

The one thing about the Galilean transform and the Lorentz transform is how do I change from a stationary to a moving object?
I will use the Galilean transform because it is easier to manipulate the equation. x' = x - vt and x' represent the moving object position and speed/velocity and time. If I go x = x' + vt I changing x to the moving object and x' stationary object. Is this correct?

@high verge sorry to bother you but I have a new question

[mossy mango]

red bull can

til duck.ai exists

[solemn tulip]

it was obvious looking at the link

[mossy mango]

haha 😆

i didn't know if anyone would actually scan it

[solemn tulip]

one nice thing about the circle to search thingy on pixel

[marble bay]

I question the whole no data is stored but we still provide you all these LLMs free of cost, but I still use it for the convenience of it

[undone granite]

lol

[woeful phoenix]

Where is this from?

[undone granite]

https://lwn.net/Articles/888715/

[polar wolf]

Hi

[blissful cave]

Hi I new member

[torn tusk]

Ddd

Ddddd

d

[turbid oyster]

why isnt this an electroboom video

[turbid oyster]

this is so gpt5

[bleak maple]

Speaking of slopware..

https://vxtwitter.com/radamar/status/1972925516547309833

Radamés Ajna (@radamar)

Testing nano-banana with recursive editing from simple prompts

"Show this scene one second in the future" https://t.co/UxVM3KTQhv

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Sep 30, 2025, 7:24 AM

[upper flower]

@viral parrot do you know whats the point of learning these?

[viral parrot]

what do you think the point is?

[upper flower]

i dont get it. its just working with arrays and showing which kind of complexity takes how many steps

and apparently the ones with less steps are efficient

[woeful phoenix]

isn't it important to write efficient software?

[viral parrot]

this iiis part of analytics, where you the developer analyses your code

why it is important to know how your code runs?

[upper flower]

yeah but is there any best complexity in this? i will just learn that and move on?

why learn all of them

[upper flower]

for read and maintainability and scaling

[viral parrot]

well.. what do you think speed in the question above means?

[woeful phoenix]

if you could choose a complexity and make your code be that complexity it would be simple, lol
but it's not like that.

the complexity describes your program

[bleak maple]

Not every problem has a "best" ( O(1) ) solution, and in fact interesting problems rarely do.

[woeful phoenix]

so you learn it to be able to talk about the efficiency of your program more precisely

[upper flower]

like solving it in how many steps. eg if a program takes 50 steps and that same program takes 10 steps, the 10 one is better

[bleak maple]

So sure you want O(1) all the time, but you can't get that in this universe.

So it's worth learning to understand what the best you can do IS.

[upper flower]

ok

[bleak maple]

O(N!) is so gnarly

When you understand what that is saying, you will not be happy

[viral parrot]

let me ask you a question

[woeful phoenix]

there are many tasks you need to perform as part of a program, and those tasks have different algorithms, different approaches. each of those has a different complexity.
how do you determine that? how do you quantify/describe those differences? that's what you learn complexity analysis for.

[bleak maple]

Aha, but what if your 10-step version takes 100x more RAM?

[viral parrot]

if you have 100 things, how long would it take to count each one of those thhiings?

[upper flower]

for me as a human?

[viral parrot]

yes

[upper flower]

probably 100 seconds

[viral parrot]

good

and if you have 1 million things

how long?

[upper flower]

1 million seconds

[viral parrot]

yes

how does this problem scale?

[upper flower]

that as the number of things to count increase, it also takes way too much time to count

[bleak maple]

I agree 1000% with what eivl is doing right now and will shut up.

[viral parrot]

so do you agree, if I double the amount of things, you double the amount of time?

[upper flower]

yea

[viral parrot]

this term has a name

it is called linear scale

[upper flower]

mm

[viral parrot]

what is a faster way to count these thiings?

[upper flower]

as humans?

[viral parrot]

yes

this is all human language

big O is something we human thinks about

its not really accurate or actually real

its just a thought experiment

[upper flower]

well we could lets say if theres 100 things i could count them as 10 in the first second. so 10 10 10 10 10 and so on and reach 100 so thats 10 seconds but 100 things

[viral parrot]

yes, you could sort the things first, and then count them in groups..

lets say every thing weigh 1 gram

would that info help you to make a faster solution?

[upper flower]

no

[viral parrot]

what if you have a scale and weigh all the things at once?

[upper flower]

yeah then probably

[viral parrot]

thhe scale will tell you they weigh 600kg

meaning it is 600 000 thiings

i get the answer right away

so that is the best way to solve this problem

you cant get any faster than the correct answer right away

agree?

[upper flower]

yes

[viral parrot]

contant time we call this

and its the best

what is worse then what we did earlier?

[upper flower]

yea