ot1-perplexing-regexing

[hollow dagger]

Ck is 🔔

[coral void]

I did say it was inappropriate. But we can't act on everything, and "Call to violence" is inherently contextual. Also, frankly, he's dead. There's little violence to call for. If you feel otherwise go ahead and file a discord report.

[hollow dagger]

By the way 200 yards chatgpt said

[coral void]

On the other hand, starting a flame war is inherently my problem

[hollow dagger]

Was it done by the govt or something? Im not from the us so i feel the govt could be involved despite his allegiances

[coral void]

Unlikely

[celest berry]

yes, he is dead. And if I made jokes or were gleeful about the dead children from the school shooting or the Ukrainian woman, I think I would be swiftly muted or banned on the server

[coral void]

My roommates were present for a similarish event back in 2015. It's not really a new thing for controversial politicians in the united states to get shot at. Our politics is not in a healthy state. But I digress

[thick ore]

i dont think the govt would shoot someone that agrees with the president

[coral void]

The CIA has done weirder tbh

[coral void]

I don't see glee or glorifying humor

[tardy rain]

The gov has no problem killing their own to cause escalation

[coral void]

Also, there's a difference between an active campaigning politician and children and war refugees.

[celest berry]

the insinuation of saying "shoot him again" is that they are hoping he will die

[celest berry]

that's not a difference that should be entertained by the moderators of the python discord server

this server should be politically impartial about assassinations

a person was killed yesterday and jokes are being made about it in this chat room

[tardy rain]

My guy this is a python server

[coral void]

That is, unfortunately, not how the world works

[celest berry]

yeah that's my point

[coral void]

No sentence, not even this one, cannot be interpreted as hostile

[thick ore]

chat does the python server support inhumanity

[coral void]

Context is inherent in moderation. If you don't like it, you're free to talk to us about it over modmail, not engage with it, or if you think it's bad enough that it's not appropriate for discord, report it to them

[celest berry]

what is that supposed to mean? That there are no sentences which are clearly undeniably hostile?

[coral void]

"All sentences can be interpreted as hostile, including this one" is probably better phrasing

[thick ore]

you're saying everything is up to interpretation

which is... yeah... obviously

[coral void]

It's less obvious than you think

[celest berry]

equally? And reasonably? Do you think the sentence "the sky is blue" can be reasonably interpreted as equally hostile as the sentence "I hope they kill him"?

[hollow dagger]

Pawggersss

Utah was unexpected though

Dont people there have texas/florida levels of " I hate anyone whos not white or christian "?

Yoo

I wanna watch asmongold

[coral void]

In an emotional conversation "equally" and "reasonably" aren't relevant qualifiers. And I did delete chunks of the conversation.

[tardy rain]

are they christians in utah

theyre mormons

[hollow dagger]

But i quit yt preparing for jee adv lvl maths

Btw how r u young man

I got my masters admits

[sharp jasper]

Mormons generally consider themselves Christians, for what that's worth.

[hollow dagger]

But i was like frick usa

Bc the world is going down and down and down

[tardy rain]

huh, i thought mormons had their own holy book and such

[celest berry]

I just suspect that if a left-wing public figure were graphically murdered yesterday, then this server wouldn't be tolerating jokes about it.

[hollow dagger]

Also i dont have 40,000$ to give UTD or ASU

[sharp jasper]

they do. My answer was very specific in wording.

[thick ore]

we should not be tolerating jokes about anyone dying in general

[coral void]

We aren't

[hollow dagger]

Guyz

Computer question

How the flip did ASU beat the likes of urbana champain in Icpc

Finals

[languid cargo]

It's just more about creating a welcoming environment to all to talk about Python. Even the MAGA lot are welcome, whether you like it or not.

[hollow dagger]

The world feels a certain way bout ck yk?

[thick ore]

yeah but that does not mean he deserved to die

[coral void]

I think that's about enough

[hollow dagger]

He will be dealt with by god now

[coral void]

Whether you like it or not, no, I don't think its' appropriate to joke about people dying, and I did moderate the people who were doing so

[hollow dagger]

Then he will answer for all of his actions the good the bad and the ugly

[celest berry]

OK thank you.

[hollow dagger]

Lets leave it at that

End of discussion

[coral void]

If you have further questions or concerns, please direct them to modmail.

[hollow dagger]

Also cat didnt realize u were mod💀

Catscript

We need different syntaxes for javascript and pythin like how they have skins in games

We need a catscript

[tropic ore]

he was doing open discussions too, which i'd consider better than some

[thick ore]

i'm gonna hold your hand when i say this...

[hollow dagger]

I will let u also hold mine...
Bc u like Java

Ur not a filthy C sharp user

[coral void]

I'm also going to state for the record that I did notice you joining the server and then instantly starting shit. Sockpuppet or not, that will lead to swift removal if it doesn't stop. We're a python server that hosts deeper discussions, not a flamewar host, and if you're only there for that you will be removed.

[thick ore]

nah C# is actually fire, just not better than java

[hollow dagger]

I was forced to write a full rest API in .... what

Bro like

Ur an actual c sharpner bro

[coral void]

I've been on the other end enough that I like to think I put a lot of effort into not being a dick. Could be better, but meh.

[thick ore]

you don't know the int character development

[coral void]

C# isn't so bad

[hollow dagger]

That public iactionresult stuff is like nah

I like how they give u like a lil file to twst the apis too

[coral void]

Very verbose and has a lot of microsoftisms but IMO still better than a lot of what java gets up to

[thick ore]

i hate to say this but, it all makes sense when you understand it

[hollow dagger]

As if postman thunderclient dont exist

[coral void]

or if err != nil the language

[glossy niche]

go could REALLY use syntax sugar here

[coral void]

Hot take: go is allergic to good syntax

[thick ore]

i also like how it suggests braces on a new line. i hate K&R

[glossy niche]

I haven't written enough go comment on that lol

[thick ore]

but society forces me to k&r...

[thick ore]

it's simple... it's simple but not necessarily good

[languid cargo]

Can Java be compiled to native binaries?

[coral void]

func main() {
    app := &cli.Command{
        Name: "tasks",
        Commands: []*cli.Command{
            {
                Name:  "list",
                Usage: "List all tasks",
                Flags: []cli.Flag{
                    &cli.BoolFlag{
                        Name:    "completed",
                        Aliases: []string{"c"},
                        Usage:   "Show completed tasks",
                    },
                },
                Action: func(c *cli.Context) error {
                    if c.Bool("completed") {
                        fmt.Println("Completed tasks:")
                    } else {
                        fmt.Println("Pending tasks:")
                    }
                    return nil
                },
            },
        },
    }

    app.Run(os.Args)
}

[languid cargo]

Without the JVM

[thick ore]

iirc graalvm had something for that

[coral void]

just a random example I found

[]*cli.Command this is cursed

[celest berry]

I have a work account and a personal account, I don't want political conversation associate with my work account. I do contribute to the server talking about python frequently, and discord has multiple accounts as a built-in feature not against the terms of service

I saw the message and switched accounts

[thick ore]

https://www.graalvm.org/latest/reference-manual/java/compiler/

[coral void]

Sure. But consider that alts make it difficult to distinguish between users who are here to troll and users who are here to actually make use of the server and get upset.

[celest berry]

sure fair

[thick ore]

this is not all that bad, just split it up into variables

you would have the same problem in other languages

and iirc the recommended way of using urfave/cli is to make multiple files and register the command in func init()

[coral void]

on one hand, yes

on the other hand []thing means slice of thing, for some reason

I also want to say that I don't like defer

It feels like a misfeature

All I can think about when I see it is all the footguns it'll result in

[solemn tulip]

it can avoid footguns too

though I probably would have preferred RAII-like semantics instead

[coral void]

with is just such a nice feature

Real a+ addition to python imo

[frozen crane]

I especially like doing more than one with at the same time

also what if with had an except block?

[uneven pine]

am I crazy or isn't try with already a thing?

[acoustic moss]

no

[languid cargo]

Oh I just saw this. That's great. Cheers.

[uneven pine]

No I'm not crazy or no it's not a thing?

If it's not a thing, it should be

[solemn tulip]

what should it do?

[uneven pine]

Catch an exception from the with block

I definitely have tons of

try:
  with:

And

with:
  try:

[tardy rain]

Maybe youre thinking of try with resources?

[solemn tulip]

honestly try and with feel pretty orthogonal to me

[latent scaffold]

I just had such a funny UX fail in Marvel Rivals

I couldn't find an option to disable Discord-only whisper messages

I was wondering why it had an option for every channel except for Discord DMs

and it's literally because of the fact that it doesn't have "Allow" and for some reason every option after is indented

[glossy niche]

wtf is this

[grave cove]

The greatest game of all time

I have this skin it’s pretty funny

[glossy niche]

are they supposed to be dressed like a "gta online tryhard" like the kids call em?

[crystal spruce]

why do you have so many of those?

[grave cove]

some of them are. the game is set in a virtual game show so there are A LOT of customization options outside of just tacticool

[graceful basin]

you can make the context manager catch the exception if you write your own IG.

[mossy mango]

hey ot1

[thick ore]

try with .

bruh

no nitro

[carmine apex]

something along the lines of Path(file_path).read() would be simpler

[thick ore]

pathlib ❤️

[carmine apex]

it mildly bothers me that pathlib doesn't require context managers

[thick ore]

with Path(x) as path: ?

how would that work

you could use with Path(x).open() as file: i guess

[carmine apex]

yeah but all the time with regular open makes it feel wrong using file operations without with

[coral void]

with open_config_file(file_path, "main config file") as f:

then have your context manager raise an appropriate filenotfound error

or whatever

[lofty briar]

import os
os.remove(r"C:\Users")```

[tardy rain]

Lmao

Zoomers know how to riot

[fierce sandal]

Is this of nepal

[plush rain]

Nepali genZ on a roll

[glossy niche]

hell yeah brother

[tardy rain]

yea

[rough sapphire]

Hey check out my game:
https://github.com/omartech104/The_One_Hundered_Years_War\

Give me result of your testing to improve the game

[quasi blaze]

What is everyone’s worldview on vigilantism?

An example of vigilantism is a civilian throwing eggs at drivers for driving 50 KM/H at a 20 KM/H elementary school zone

[vale raven]

That’s a very tame example of vigilantes

[thick osprey]

It sounds more like vandalism and not vigilantism.

[tardy rain]

Vigilantism is a crime keezy

Batman is a criminal

Dont do it, its not worth it

[warped sentinel]

so you are saying you are for people throwing eggs at fast moving cars in school zones as to impair their vision and cause a dramatic crash that kills children and a pregnant lady crossing the street?

[vale raven]

I feel like this is a bit of reductio ad absurdum

You don't have to hit the windshield

Google autocomplete just gave me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

I've never heard of this before

What a name

[warped sentinel]

how else do you have maximum efficiency?

though any action runs risks. Likelihood x impact can be quite bad even for throwing eggs

[tardy rain]

aim through the side window

inb4 keezy hits back with "thats a loaded question"

and he'd be right too

[warped sentinel]

I mean, is the egg boiled or not? Is it a quail egg or a chicken egg? So many questions and no answer

[grave cove]

Standing on the side of the road with a brick in your hands is very effective

[quasi blaze]

No. Also, an example is simply an example. No clue how that prompted you to ask that question.

[quasi blaze]

I forgot to mention that this civilian also has the speed car checker (idk what you call it)

[vale raven]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_speed_gun

[bleak lintel]

this was covered in second week of our logic module in first year of university

very amusing lol

[tardy rain]

Would you throw the eggs keezy

i think its kind of a waste of time to sit and police people when we already have an agency whose purpose is that

[vale raven]

You Br*tish guys have an egg-throwing agency?

[quasi blaze]

That’s irrelevant

[tardy rain]

You br*tish guys
do you not know the lore shen

[quasi blaze]

That question moves the goalpost

The topic is about vigilantism

[vale raven]

My lore starts at tea in a harbor

[tardy rain]

would you be a vigilante

[vale raven]

How?

[tardy rain]

also it does not move the goalpost as i did not revise my requirements for qualifying something as vigilantism

[vale raven]

We're still on vigilantes
We're asking you if you fit your own example

[tardy rain]

i just asked if you would do it

kinda like how you asked for opinions here

[quasi blaze]

Because the question is about if I am willing to commit an action.

[tardy rain]

at best its irrelevant to whether throwing eggs is vigilantism

its not moving the goalposts tho

[quasi blaze]

That’s not about everyone’s personal idea about vigilantism. (Which was the question I asked everyone)

[vale raven]

Your question was if other people would be willing to commit an action
Are you exempting yourself from the introspection?

[tardy rain]

bro did you study at the jordan peterson school of dodging questions

its a simple question

vigilantism or not, would you do it

[quasi blaze]

My question was explicitly “What is everyone’s worldview on vigilantism?”

[vale raven]

The Prometheus School of Running Away From Questions
as seen on CinemaSins

[tardy rain]

i didnt even say its a bad thing or not

[tardy rain]

and my question is "would you throw eggs at speeding cars in a school zone"

[vale raven]

"Don't take it upon yourself to enforce your views on others"

[quasi blaze]

Asking a question with a question…smh

[tardy rain]

yes the way you ask questions is by asking questions

[vale raven]

That's a valid debate action

[quasi blaze]

I just wanted to know everyone’s philosophical view on vigilantism

[tardy rain]

i kind of gave mine already

i think its pointless, you already pay taxes towards the policing of your neighbourhood, county, state, nation

[quasi blaze]

I see

The Punisher, is fictional character but an archetype of vigilantism. There’s folks who agree with his moral framework

https://youtu.be/xWh6A6ZIpfo?si=tHtnGGKiDTa8YDlG the greatest philosophical debate that I ever seen on TV

[quasi blaze]

It was just an example

I was giving an example of vigilantism

[vale raven]

Okay

Given the example

What's your view on vigilantism?

[lament cairn]

Most people are too unreasonable and emotionally unstable to practice vigilantism in a way that doesn't do more harm than good, like the egg on windshield example

[quasi blaze]

I think vigilantism is rooted in narcissism. I don’t think it is in anyone’s place outside of the law to dictate whether someone deserves justice.

It’s ignoring the justice of the law and taking action upon yourself. One only cares about if their perception of justice is being fulfilled and not the justice of law. Vigilantism is an act of narcissism.

[tardy rain]

well yea its illegal for that reason

also, most heroes are vigilantes

one of marvel's biggest story arcs is about this

i dont know if DC had the same arc

i think in justice league unlimited the us tried to get them to register and the JL just quit

so technically they are vigilantes

[uneven pine]

Imaging genuinely believing that the law provides justice

[tardy rain]

it doesnt, not really

but that doesnt mean every rando can go around doing what they like

[upper flower]

@woeful phoenix lmao my professor really did add the same definition here 💀

oh the irony

[tardy rain]

Did you get beat gri

[upper flower]

not yet

school is in 2 hours

also tis is computer not math..

[tardy rain]

🤞

[upper flower]

i honestly think he wont beat me

cuz im in his good students list and my previous tests were great

thats why im in the good list anyway

[tardy rain]

Why were you worried then

[upper flower]

because this is not a 100% thing

he might or might not spare me

[tardy rain]

Who else gets beat

[upper flower]

pretty much the whole class

maybe except 10 students

[tardy rain]

What do they do thats special

[upper flower]

they scored better in the test

the one who gets below 15 is cooked

[tardy rain]

Out of 20?

[upper flower]

ye

[tardy rain]

Crazy

[upper flower]

but the professor specifically mentioned that he will keep record of tests so that if a good student someday is cooked, i shall spare him

[tardy rain]

15 is a C

[upper flower]

🥲

[upper flower]

the test wasnt 100% fair

there was a question that was wrong and the examiner said if the question is wrong, leave it and u will get the marks

but our math sir said nuh uh ima cut ur marks

[thick ore]

terrible day to find out that exfat is unresizable

[vapid nymph]

its not

i did some cursed shit

and expanded a partition once

[thick ore]

i'm trying to shrink one

but the fact you need to do some cursed shit is crazy

[glossy niche]

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2495377-gravitational-waves-finally-prove-stephen-hawkings-black-hole-theorem/ huge news for fucking nerds

[carmine apex]

so why is this news now? it was detected almost 8 months ago

did they finally verify it or something

[glossy niche]

i only found out abt the law now, personally

[fiery mica]

I read Ligo as Lego 😂

[sharp jasper]

It's not per hour, that's the point

[bleak lintel]

watt-hours my beloved

[sharp jasper]

a kWh isn't a kilowatt per hour and a mAh isn't a milliamp per hour

[hexed sierra]

@dusky turret the price you pay for energy is usually computed as how many watts you spend throughout an hour, and you add that up for every hour. they're multiplied

[shell raptor]

This is why I don't like mAh and kWh, the general public is confused about multiplicative units. Should've just used MJ

[hexed sierra]

voltage is a unit of energy/charge, and current is a unit of charge/second. their product is is energy/second. you then multiply this by the number of seconds to get the energy

you pay for energy

all in all, volts x amps x time

[timid latch]

And let's not get started on kWh per thousand hours

[dusky turret]

a 100w consumption of a pc means 100w per hour

[sharp jasper]

no, that's just 100 W

[dusky turret]

its not 100 w per second

[hexed sierra]

no, watts are energy / second

[bleak lintel]

when I am training people in BS7909 I give the following reference documents for understandnig power theory

https://www.packetpower.com/blog/electricity-basics-for-data-centers
https://www.rebel-cell.com/knowledge-base/battery-terminology/

they mostly get things right

[hexed sierra]

it'S 100 joules per second

[sharp jasper]

if you run it for an hour, that would be 100 watt hours

[bleak lintel]

of course they don't go into power factor and phase imbalance and I had to write a load of shit for that, but those cover most of the relations and usages for each unit

[worthy oracle]

in order to fix our energy units in a way that the americans can understand i propose that the SI units be changed to Big Mac calories

[bleak lintel]

the classic beer diagram

[sharp jasper]

calories or Calories? because the second one is kilocalories 😛

[dusky turret]

uh i see

so u say its 100w per second

[worthy oracle]

oops i meant Calories

[dusky turret]

and u pay for "if you've used 100w per second, for an hour"

[sharp jasper]

you must stop saying things like watts per second

that's incoherent

[worthy oracle]

watts is joules per second

there is no watts per second

unless you are talking about changing wattage over time

[shell raptor]

@dusky turret Let's start with the basics. Energy is measured in joules. A watt is one joule per second. A lightbulb might consume 12 joules of electricity per second. A person on a bicycle might output 200 joules per second in mechanical energy.
So the lightblub "consumes 12w". It does not consume 12 watts each second. It consumes 12 joules every second.

A bicyclist produces 200 watts and moves at 10 meters per second. In 0.5 seconds, they produce 100 joules and move 5 meters.

[hexed sierra]

no, a watt is not a joule

[hexed sierra]

no

[shell raptor]

Joule -> meter
Watts -> meters per second

[sharp jasper]

100 watts for an hour is 100 joules per second, times 3600 seconds = 360000 joules

[hexed sierra]

you missed the point and are repeating the same thing you said at first, which is wrong

you pay for joules

your power supply is rated in watts, which is joules per second

watt hours is another unit for joules

so you can think of watts as watt hours / hour

[dusky turret]

i see

then why u counted it as 0.8kw, for 8 hours

it would be 100w for an entirety of 8 hours then

according to what u say

[worthy oracle]

kWh is not kW/h

kWh is kW*h

[shell raptor]

kWh, or more correctly kW * h, pronounced "kilowatt-hours", is a unit of energy. It's the amount of energy that you spend if you continuously use 1000W during a single hour.

[hexed sierra]

hour?

[dusky turret]

a single second?

[shell raptor]

sorry

fixed

[timid latch]

Basically kWh are like if we called 1m/s a Viv, and measured distance in Viv hours.

[meager sphinx]

writing in watts , thinking joules moment

[dusky turret]

why is it multiplied then

if u use 1kw for an hour

then u should say 1kw for 2 hours

[hexed sierra]

because you want the joules

[meager sphinx]

would it help if you told us an example and we explained it for you ?

[dusky turret]

uh

[hexed sierra]

people just read the units from left to right

the unit is kilowatts * hours

joules are also newtons * meters, and people read that as newton-meters

[dusky turret]

i see what u mean

its a bit weird to look at it this way

u say, using 1kw for 2 hours

is like using 2kw for 1 hour

[outer zenith]

100 watts means 100 joules per second, so it means that it's 100j/s during 8 hours

[worthy oracle]

yea, same amount of energy used in total

[meager sphinx]

you pay for kwh

lets say you have a bulb that is 100 W (so its a 0.1kW bulb). and lets say you turn it on for 10 hours.

then you have consumed 0.1 x 10 = 1kwh

[hexed sierra]

yes, from the energy standpoint. not from wattage because one scenario was double the wattage

[dusky turret]

@shell raptor well either way u meant 8 hours i meant 24 hours

say its 130w

130 * 24 * 30 = 93600

[meager sphinx]

thats wh

we need kwh

[dusky turret]

93kwh

[meager sphinx]

93.6 kwh

[shell raptor]

I was going off the assumption that you're already using your computer

[dusky turret]

yea its around um

[worthy oracle]

electricity is measured in kWh because people typically only know the wattage of their household appliances, and that's in watts, and most laymen don't really know that W = J/s

[dusky turret]

15$ maybe in my country

[dusky turret]

i know watt for being voltage times amperage

[worthy oracle]

but not the joules part?

[dusky turret]

and in ac i think its divided by a sqrt of 2

or something like that

[dusky turret]

nope

[worthy oracle]

well you are one of the lucky 10000 today

[outer zenith]

Isn't 1000W = 1kW ?

[dusky turret]

maybe i learnt it in physics and forgot

[hexed sierra]

which is (joule / coulomb) * (coulomb / second) = joule / second

[meager sphinx]

yes

[worthy oracle]

you typoed

[meager sphinx]

oh

fml

[hexed sierra]

that's the RMS value for sinusoidal voltage and current, yes

[dusky turret]

yea RMS

i wonder why the rms isn't 0

[shell raptor]

That's if you were running the computer for 0 hours every day, and now you're running it for 24 hours every day.
In my calculations, I was assuming that it's on for 16 hours already (the time that you're awake). Electricity is also typically cheaper at night, when the extra 8 hours would be

[dusky turret]

yea we kind of talked about having it on without turning it off at all

[hexed sierra]

the mean is 0, but clearly the AC voltage carries out work by e.g. making lightbulbs shine, so there is an effective energy transfer

[shell raptor]

130 watts or 100 watts is also more than your computer probably consumes on average

[dusky turret]

thats not true

at least in my case

[shell raptor]

you have a power meter?

[dusky turret]

yea

plugged into the wall

[shell raptor]

interesting

[hexed sierra]

between the pc and the wall? or just the wall

[worthy oracle]

your pc idles at >130W????

[shell raptor]

yeah that's kinda cursed

[worthy oracle]

that's insane idle draw

[shell raptor]

My entire apartment consumes 200W on average

[dusky turret]

connected to all the equipment related to the pc

[hexed sierra]

and how much does it read rn

[dusky turret]

monitor, pc

[worthy oracle]

monitor + pc is probably 100W tops at idle, isn't it

[dusky turret]

let me see

[dusky turret]

around 180w

[worthy oracle]

that's still a lot

[shell raptor]

wtf, what CPU do you have

[worthy oracle]

is your GPU constantly running

[dusky turret]

router, speakers, monitor

[shell raptor]

what... even is consuming so much

I don't think my computer can draw that much power at its peak

(though I don't have a power meter)

[worthy oracle]

i use a laptop so i know my pc definitely doesnt draw that much power

[dusky turret]

11700k

[hexed sierra]

ok if ur blasting music, use a ton of rgb, a huge monitor with high refresh rate

[dusky turret]

no rgb

[hexed sierra]

and fiber

[dusky turret]

no music right now

fiber yea, in the internet

[hexed sierra]

modems run toasty

[shell raptor]

maybe it's short circuiting

[worthy oracle]

what's your cpu's power draw now

[dusky turret]

i could turn off the modem but then it'd take few minutes for the internet to be back

[hexed sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/12vhpwr-burning-gpu-connector-4090-melting-5090-melting-gif-5389376741907012594

[worthy oracle]

amazing gif

[dusky turret]

i dont know the cpu specifically, its plugged into the wall

[dusky turret]

how do you know yours not

[worthy oracle]

does task manager show wattage?

[hexed sierra]

maybe cpu z or hwinfo

[shell raptor]

My CPU outputs at most 65W and I have a low-end GPU, not sure what else could draw a lot of power

one moment, I have a hidden power meter

[dusky turret]

gpu 8w

[hexed sierra]

idling at 30w is ok for intel

[worthy oracle]

8w gpu is also ok

[hexed sierra]

10w at idle too

do you have a chonky monitor

[worthy oracle]

when you turn off your pc and monitor before you go to bed can you check the power meter

[uneven pine]

All I know is I pull like 680 from the wall lol

Under full load

[dusky turret]

lets see if i turn off the monitor

[hexed sierra]

you can turn off monitor real quick and note the difference

[dusky turret]

without monitor 150

[hexed sierra]

beefy gpu?

[dusky turret]

with monitor 180

[hexed sierra]

100w for router is nuts

what else is there

[dusky turret]

i think the pc takes more than 60w

[meager sphinx]

there are a lot of factors that contribute to power draw from wall

you not only have to consider the CPU draw , but also other stuff connected, the efficiency of your power supply etc

[dusky turret]

but i dont feel like turning off my pc now

[hexed sierra]

you can prolly use like 80/0.8 at idle before peripherals (counting monitor)

[dusky turret]

even the pc fans

[hexed sierra]

with fans and all

[worthy oracle]

check when you turn off your pc later

[dusky turret]

power supply efficiency of course

[meager sphinx]

also , how exactly are you measuring the power draw from your wall to PC ?

[dusky turret]

i have a device that measures the watts

[uneven pine]

4070 Ti Super + RX6600 and a 5800x3d

[worthy oracle]

are you sure there arent some other appliances plugged into the power meter?

[dusky turret]

nope

[worthy oracle]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[meager sphinx]

lets assume this device is fairly accurate and you are measuring what yo usay you are measuring

what power suply does your PC have ?

[dusky turret]

my bet is that the pc itself is 120w

[shell raptor]

Just measured my power. The monitor takes up 17 watts, the rest of the computer takes up 68 watts

[dusky turret]

but could be 100

[meager sphinx]

you can have a pretty shitty power supply that has shit efficiency

[dusky turret]

antec gold 1kw

[bleak lintel]

300kW go brrr

[dusky turret]

i thought u didn't have a device

[meager sphinx]

what other peripherals does your PC have plugged in ?

[hexed sierra]

you almost have enough for an rtx 5090

[shell raptor]

I used the global power meter and the power of subtraction

[bleak lintel]

🤣

[dusky turret]

i see

[worthy oracle]

"global power meter"

[dusky turret]

pc, speakers, router, mointor

pretty much

[meager sphinx]

can it run doom though

[bleak lintel]

not doom but the amplifiers have pacman and space invaders

[meager sphinx]

i would just unplug everything except your PC and check the power draw

[dusky turret]

i really doubt my pc takes 68w

[meager sphinx]

pog

[meager sphinx]

also what CPU /GPU do you have ?

[dusky turret]

11700k

[dusky turret]

i could but i wouldn't have internet for few minutes

alright i'll do it, one sec

[hexed sierra]

i wouldn'T be surprised if the router uses like 60

[worthy oracle]

it's pretty funny to imagine that there is apparently a power cable that supplies THE ENTIRE WORLD and you somehow have access to it and is just subtracting every single power consumer in the world to get your pc's power usage

[hexed sierra]

optical modems chug power

[hexed sierra]

it's called the sun, but turning it off for one person is kinda difficult

[sharp jasper]

just turn it back on again really fast please

[dusky turret]

around 130w

maybe 125

no speakers no router no monitor no nothing

[worthy oracle]

fiber optic modems apparently use at most 15w

[hexed sierra]

is it a wireless router with high speed fiber going into it`?

[dusky turret]

the pc 130

the router, yea, but i dont use it wirelessly that much

maybe wifi for the phone

its connected with an ethernet cable to my pc

[worthy oracle]

130w at idle is a lot

[dusky turret]

uh i'm not very surprised

[worthy oracle]

you should be

[hexed sierra]

the pc alone?

[dusky turret]

yea

[hexed sierra]

u sure you don't have rgb?

maybe you have a large number of fans?

[dusky turret]

no rgb is turned on at all

[sharp jasper]

that's a lot of fans

[outer zenith]

I'm not sure if fans increase that much

[dusky turret]

i think 6 fans?

watercooling for the cpu

[worthy oracle]

there ya go

[dusky turret]

2 hdds

uh u think watercooling is the consumptor?

[worthy oracle]

no, in combination

[hexed sierra]

water cooling in AIO is like 10 or 15 watts?

hdds can also use up to like 10

[worthy oracle]

watercooling + fans + hdds + cpu + gpu, the combination of which draws 130w

[dusky turret]

well when u add all those together

yea

[hexed sierra]

fans are like 2 watts each

[worthy oracle]

adds up

[dusky turret]

i think its more or less a common gaming pc

most people's with such pc, would draw the same

and thats without even rgb

[outer zenith]

What's ur graphics card ?

[dusky turret]

with rgb it'd probably be even more

[dusky turret]

3080ti

[worthy oracle]

holy shit

[dusky turret]

?

[worthy oracle]

im easily impressed by people's rigs, don't mind me

[dusky turret]

haha ok

[sharp jasper]

it sounds like pretty high idle even for a high end pc, tbh
but water cooling explains it a bit, I think

[dusky turret]

water cooling kind of sucks to bbe honest

[worthy oracle]

huh

[shell raptor]

maxing out all CPU cores adds extra 30W

[dusky turret]

its honestly good for like 2-3 years

then u throw it to the garbage

[worthy oracle]

AIO?

[dusky turret]

kind of annoying

yea

[worthy oracle]

you could also not use an AIO

[dusky turret]

a normal cpu fan lasts forever

[dusky turret]

like build a loop and all that?

[worthy oracle]

yea

[sharp jasper]

I saw a neat demo at SC 2024 of negative pressure water cooling

[dusky turret]

👀 makes sense

[sharp jasper]

they nicked a hole in the supply line and showed that it didn't leak

[dusky turret]

trying to search about it

[sharp jasper]

I don't remember the name of the company unfortunately

[hexed sierra]

i just ordered an amd 9700x + rtx 5070 system recently, excited to have my first desktop pc

[dusky turret]

i dont know if i have enough patience to create loops and all that, but it could be an interesting project

[sharp jasper]

they told me it was mainly for data center scale stuff
hard to maintain vacuum in a small package

[dusky turret]

honestly i'm excited for u as well

[dusky turret]

i see this right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdGcL1WLVcM

[sharp jasper]

yeah I think that was it
I might be in the background of one of their sc24 photos lol

[dusky turret]

really lol

[dusky turret]

seeing it makes me wonder how it was like to build it honestly

[worthy oracle]

you dont normally get negative pressure watercooling in consumer pcs

[dusky turret]

true

[sharp jasper]

it looked pretty... basic? in person
maybe that isn't the right word. Like, it was a nice demo, but it lacked some degree of elegance and polish. A step above "I made this in my garage"

lots of wasted space

[worthy oracle]

that's like most things in person lol

[sharp jasper]

fair

[dusky turret]

i haven't seen it in person of course, but in the video it looks really cool

[sharp jasper]

it is cool

[dusky turret]

alright, guess i'll go afk a bit

thank you for the conversation

cya later

[turbid oyster]

chat what if we built a leak-tolerant cooling solution that uses liquid nitrogen

[thick osprey]

Then you'd have a very exspensive to run cooling system.

[vale raven]

What if?

[vale raven]

https://tenor.com/view/money-is-not-an-issue-for-me-anna-delvey-julia-garner-inventing-anna-i-have-money-gif-25142110

[jolly prawn]

Sugar mommy??

[fiery mica]

Lol

[sharp jasper]

N2 only goes to a pathetic 77K
helium dilution refrigerators are where it's at

although, if you're using conventional CMOS technology you're probably constrained to the 77K range anyway

transistors heat up too much to run them in the mK range

[vast turtle]

Does anyone know how to use a Korg nanoKontroller2 in MIDOUtil with ros2 implementation

[crystal spruce]

@sly swan i dont do DMs, if you wanna talk do it here

[quasi blaze]

@vale raven do you agree with my worldview on vigilantism?

[bleak lintel]

lol is vigilantism our topic of discussion today

[vale raven]

It was yesterdays

But apparently it's time to rehash

[vale raven]

Do you agree Joe?

[bleak lintel]

I love vigilantes

[vale raven]

I mean, yeah, you have to believe you're in the right and no one else believes you for you to believe that you're being forced to be a vigilante

[vale raven]

[bleak lintel]

I watched Superman last night and it made me think we need more of them fellas.

[vale raven]

What about when they get it wrong?

[bleak lintel]

Superman never gets it wrong

You must not have watched the movie yet

neither does Batman

[turbid oyster]

@round pendant wow Russian is really easy to read

but still hard to learn

got the letters out of the way tho

also got my accent up

[jovial oriole]

if superheroes existed it would be more like the boys not marvel

[grave cove]

which

[jaunty wraith]

Civil War?

[grave cove]

yeah I can see that

i asked because marvel has a lot of vigilante stories

[jaunty wraith]

A lot being all of them

[solemn tulip]

nothing says "welcome to germany" like a delayed train

[languid cargo]

Your version of Alan Moore's V for Vendetta would sure be boring.

Epside 1: V writes a stern letter of complaint to his local MP.

[solemn tulip]

I booked a later connecting train so I wouldn't have to worry about delays, but turns out the earlier train was delayed even more so I could have made it 🤡

[tardy rain]

🤨

[tardy rain]

All the stories are vigilantes stories

The one time they tried to register heroes it turned into a "civil war"

[hasty oyster]

pipenv

pipenv

butiful

[bright solar]

Yes

[jovial oriole]

Another day another can

I got the elusive 32gram protein one

[carmine apex]

are you on like a mercury binge or something

[jovial oriole]

im on a protein binge

[carmine apex]

there's protein sources other than tuna though

[vale raven]

Say more

[jovial oriole]

😊

[jovial oriole]

I know

But tuna is the most convienient

[vale raven]

Do you just love disgusting fish or something?

[jovial oriole]

I only need a fork and a can opener friends 😊

[jovial oriole]

All living things are beautiful

When i get back from a run or a workout im usually too tired to cook

[vale raven]

Doesn’t mean they taste beautiful

[vale raven]

Cook before

[jovial oriole]

tuna comes precooked

and once a month if i do good i can get the special tunas

Like the soybean oil or chili one

[warped sentinel]

tuna poke is great too

no need cooking

[jovial oriole]

but i accept regular tuna and milk after any workout 🤞 we dont discriminate

[undone thorn]

based protein maxxer

[glossy niche]

you know you can like jsut add fresh onions to it and it tastes way better

[glossy niche]

lmao

[uneven pine]

Now I do love tuna

But that seems very depressing

You're like one of those gym bros like "nah man you gotta suffer for gains bro"!

I have two words for you:

Meal prep

[dusky turret]

🤣

[mossy mango]

gdb has a protocol for ide debuggers and stuff

remote debugging

[dusky turret]

but vscode debugger is useful very often for me

adding breakpoints and watches, watching locals

[mossy mango]

I'm not sure what they use

[dusky turret]

u get so much information at like 0 seconds

[mossy mango]

maybe gdb for debugging native programs

[dusky turret]

i dont know what they use either

[mossy mango]

what language do you debug in it

py? c?

[dusky turret]

python

i also debugged c in vscode i think?

[mossy mango]

it probably uses pdb then

[dusky turret]

and typescript

[dusky turret]

i dont really know the differences between the debuggers

[buoyant gust]

burst a what

[grave cove]

ts otn can’t be real

[glossy niche]

https://ghuntley.com/cursed/ spent someones life savings so i can have AI spit out some old memes

nah → nil
normie → int
tea → string

bro would say ni hao to japanese americans

[languid cargo]

Is that a Snow Leopard?

[narrow coral]

.wa meaning of nurst

[median dome]

Wolfram Alpha

View original for a bigger picture.

[narrow coral]

Burst a nurse, heck yeah

Beware @nurses

[grave cove]

It is

[ebon shell]

new sotarks aimslop map ranked 🥀

[mossy mango]

is this a summary of the pydis community?

[quasi blaze]

My manager came up with an “Alternate ID” column for a table because the values in the “ID” column were too complicated to remember

[vale raven]

Just wait until you have to have an entire panel for IDs

[quasi blaze]

Panel? What do you mean? Like 6 different columns for IDs? Lol

[quasi blaze]

Oh those look reasonable

[vale raven]

What's the difference between "PO" and "PO ID"?

(It's a trick question because they're both POs)

[quasi blaze]

That can be confusing if they’re meant the same thing and referenced the same

The difference is that my manager’s idea of an ID is completely customized

Yours is actually coming from a source

[vale raven]

"FAST" is the name of this system, so that's this system's order number.
"PO" is their client's PO
"PO ID" is the PO that the FAST team places with the product vendor to order the product for this order

Then they're subcontracting to us so they added a "Decorator order ID" for us to be able to reference these orders by our own numbers

They stack up fast

[vale raven]

True

[vale raven]

So... it's just a description/title/note?

[quasi blaze]

We already have a description column in the table. The description is too long for him also

[vale raven]

That's not really necessarily a bad thing
I can't tell you how many times I've asked for an order number and gotten "the AT&T one" when "AT&T" could be the logo or the subcontractor or the....
Having a quick reference that your team can understand can be really helpful

[quasi blaze]

Alternate ID is supposed to make it easier for him to identify products

I have a warehouse background so these detailed Product IDs are normal for me and I get why manufacturers do this

not a Product ID but you can have format of how to locate a box like:

01-03-07-C

01 being the facility number

03 being the aisle number

07 being the rack number

And C being the slot letter

Looks sophisticated at a first glance but when you break it down it becomes easy to understand

[vale raven]

Yeah, I work in a warehouse and handle millions of dollars in shipping annually
I handle everything by GTIN, so I don't even look at the part numbers

[jovial oriole]

No im just lazy broski

[jovial oriole]

🥺 why so mean

[jovial oriole]

This guy gets it

[jovial oriole]

😢

cat food is like 40% protein w/w

Hes getting jacked

If only it was human consumable💔

Its not crazy to say that some cat food smells good

The wetfood containers must have cocaine

[lament cairn]

it's not poison

you can try taking a bite

[undone thorn]

Hypurrtrophy

[grave cove]

bro needs a hover tooltip

[vale raven]

Wait where?

[grave cove]

should just show one main id and hovering over it shows the others

[vale raven]

How do you copy/paste?

[grave cove]

listing data on frontends as if they're key/value is bad

[grave cove]

its fairly common to have tooltips with stuff inside them you can iteract with

moving the mouse into it won't close it off

[vale raven]

ehhh

datatables are bad

Reference data is not bad

[grave cove]

sure but this is just that on a smaller scale

bro has not read refactoring ui

[vale raven]

Also my entire system is tabular data

[vale raven]

bro does not understand use cases

[grave cove]

most systems that use a relational database are

[grave cove]

well yeah i dont have the full context since i dont work at your company but from what i can tell i think the concept still applies

[vale raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGUqyb6mzDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn3uzsYcY8A

Dude has some really good and well explained examples

And I just love the callout in that title

[carmine apex]

doggo shilling a talk by somebody other than dylan beattie?

[grave cove]

im taking a software design and management course gng i dont need to see more of ts

i think this is applicable in your case

[carmine apex]

smartphone dimensions
depth

[vale raven]

They post all angles

[carmine apex]

it's called thickness

[vale raven]

Damn "political correctness" these days

Tone check: that's not too tasteless, right?

[carmine apex]

or thiccness if you really want to

[lament cairn]

bonus content

[glossy niche]

I can agree with this but the unseasoned food is yucky

at least put some sauce on it

https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/trending-china/article/3324880/china-zoo-bans-visitors-letting-chimp-watch-short-videos-over-eyesight-fears

[grave cove]

me

[glossy niche]

that would be me, actually.

[daring holly]

How do i remove the lock and use real threads

[shell raptor]

https://docs.python.org/3/howto/free-threading-python.html

Python threads are already "real threads" (OS threads as opposed to user-space threads), but the GIL does exist.

Some libraries like numpy and Pillow do lift the GIL on certain operation, so you might be able to get CPU parallelism even with the GIL

[languid cargo]

I've rarely been personally attacked so viciously! Serisouly, they look great - thanks. I'm stealing and saving them for later.

[quasi blaze]

Sad

[tardy rain]

Maybe his sonny boy should stop applying to webdev roles then

Idjot

[timid latch]

yeah like if the role is frontend, and they use react, ofc they are gonna prefer canditates familiar with react

like ofc a good dev can always learn.
but not every workplace want to pay for you to learn

[thick ore]

"my son applied for webdev roles knowing damn well he does systems programming"

[stark prawn]

It reads like engagement bait.

[tardy rain]

Its a linkedin post so of course it is

[languid cargo]

Is this how parents get their offspring jobs in 2025, via their network on Linked In, instead of directly at their own company?
It's shame a "Senior Principal Engineer" can't do so without showing their own complete and utter ignorance. But he's not aiming this at you and I, he's aiming it at managers. And at the HR team, who have every right to ask simple screener questions like "Do you know React", instead of wasting their devs' time, and who should not be expected to write scripts, let alone parse them (whatever the heck that means).

[tardy rain]

What even is a senior principal engineer

Youre either the principal engineer or youre not

How can there be levels of seniority within principality

[shell raptor]

it's the one commanding unprincipled senior engineers

[languid cargo]

If he wasn't also calling himself an Architect, I'd assume he wasn't in software.

[languid cargo]

The senior one who engineers the principles <sic>

[tardy rain]

He can keep his principles while i go do wild borderline illegal shit with my code

[shell raptor]

we have w3schools, now we build w3prisons

[languid cargo]

Dark

[languid cargo]

I'm going to break LSP in a few minutes

[shell raptor]

liskov's substitute principal?

[thick ore]

damn

[languid cargo]

Just on __init__ like much of Python. Lock me up.

[tardy rain]

I was thinking more in the sense of exposing secrets and creating unsecured endpoints

[languid cargo]

Really living dangerously then.

[thick ore]

99% of firebase apps

[shell raptor]

LSP is only a thing if it's breaking part of the parent class's contract. If the contract isn't formally specified, then it's often ambiguous

__init__ is a bit contentious, but you can e.g. explicitly specify in the parent class that subclasses don't have to be __init__-compatible

[languid cargo]

I know. It was tongue in cheek. And that was kind of the joke.

[upper flower]

GR

[pseudo zephyr]

It's probably not real, just an engagement bait post targeting unemployed people

[quasi blaze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JQKYzcmhyQ

[glossy niche]

this channel is good imo

good listen when u got them air pods on

[tardy rain]

We've been over this already

RTOs are soft layoffs

[quasi blaze]

Isn't a company great to work for if they have a 25% employee growth in the last year and are looking for all levels of SWEs?

[tardy rain]

No, that just means theyre hiring

Why would that make them a great company to work for

[quasi blaze]

1. It gets your foot in the door if you want to enter tech.

2. if you're looking for a job and you see a company hiring, that's your opportunity to take advantage of that

3. Employee growth is definitely better than employee decline. There's company prospects that the company you're applying for will grow

At least, those two parameters to look at to determine if that company is great to work with

Looking for exclusively SWEs with 10+ YOE is an elitism mindset

[tardy rain]

That might make them a good stepping stone, but what if work is hell?

[quasi blaze]

Hiring for all levels gives everybody a chance

[tardy rain]

Its not elitism to require some level of experience and expertise

Theyre paying for it

[quasi blaze]

Depends if the work being hell produces heavenly income

[tardy rain]

Getting paid bags doesnt make the work any better

It just reduces your sensitivity to the hell

A good workplace has fun, positively impactful work, good managers that mentor and communicate with their reports and rewards you for the work you put in

A company's hiring practices arent really indicative of a good workplace

It could be a startup full of demons working you 996 but paying super well

[timid latch]

or hell and paying very little

[tardy rain]

A good workplace wouldnt have you think "oh nice i got that on my CV now for the future"

[bright grove]

dis me rn

[weak peak]

what if I don't want to listen

[bright grove]

he done lost his teeth

[weak peak]

rip

[bright grove]

indeed

[alpine tusk]

9 am to 9 pm, monday through saturday?

[tardy rain]

Thats the one

[mossy mango]

damn

54 hours week

[upper flower]

dam

[soft violet]

Ooh. A room day. Woot.

[grave cove]

whats that mean

[soft violet]

An otn named after me.

So a Robin-themed otn would be one of your room days.

[grave cove]

huh

never heard of it referred to that way

[soft violet]

It's what I call it.

[vale raven]

Note to self: celebrate my room days

[soft violet]

Alas, I don't remember the context for this one and it doesn't come up in a search.

[solemn tulip]

I don't think it's actually named after you

#the-pydis-mass-layoffs-lounge message

[soft violet]

Which I can't see. Righto. Well, good to know.

I figured it was maybe from when I was constipated.

[solemn tulip]

a "can't have shit in detroit" joke was followed up by

Can't have shit in constipanopal.

[soft violet]

It had opal in the name. It wasn't entirely unreasonable.

[solemn tulip]

(maybe I should have let you live the otn delusion, but happy)

[soft violet]

No, I would prefer knowing.

Well, I would choose knowing.

[solemn tulip]

I guess now you know how deep the rabbit-hole goes

||I'm surprised I actually quoted the relevant thing correctly||

[vapid nymph]

what is the data science and ai lounge lol

ah its part of the staff social channels

before anyone says anything: say discord moment

and now i have questions about theme_color lol

not sure what feature its a part of tbh

[glossy niche]

TIL that ceasar salad is called that because it was invented by john ceasar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_salad

bro was born to invent the salad

[glossy niche]

i fucking hate microsoft

[upper flower]

we already know

[honest star]

Alright, I need strong opinions on a meaningless question...

I'm getting a heated cat bed for a friend's cat. The have an all black cat. Which color cat bed would be most appropriate?

[dapper dew]

Navy

[willow narwhal]

Brown

Navy looks better with the cat on the picture, but the contrast will look nicer with brown and a black cat I think

[harsh tundra]

Do you know what the friend's place looks like? If they're more into neutral/earthy tones, brown works better. Navy if they like dark stuff or have decor that would match it

[harsh tundra]

Meanwhile my cat loves two specific bed sheets that are close to him in colour XD one of them has white with pattern on one side, the other is bluish light grey - same material, but he won't ever lay on the grey side XD

[dapper dew]

I just like Navy, but also if you aren't sure include the gift receipt and let them know the other option exists

[willow narwhal]

Makes sense, better camouflage

[jaunty wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-black-cat-void-kitty-feed-me-gif-4393303474036272454

[honest star]

Hmmmmmm, okay the contrast argument has convinced me since I'll be getting pictures of cat

[runic nymph]

If you have microsoft office 365, microsoft is going to force you to run copilot on your machines starting in october. Good luck to all my windows users out there

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-to-force-install-the-microsoft-365-copilot-app-in-october/

[willow narwhal]

What if I use Office Online or whatever it's called now?

[runic nymph]

I have no idea about that. It probably will or already does scrape all of your data and feed it into AI.. at least it's not a locally installed program siphoning your data to AI?

I doubt using a web service gives you more privacy if that's your question 😂

[willow narwhal]

I mean it's company email, so I don't care too much.

[runic nymph]

I wouldn't care at all about a company email or computer

Well, I would probably voice the concerns to management but other than that, whatever. Concerns in terms of, why are yall giving microsoft all of your data? Are you dumb? That is all

[turbid oyster]

get a vanta black one

will merge perfectly

[undone granite]

AUR is down

why am i unlucky today

[daring holly]

Looking for a real pythonista

Just to chat about web dev

[vale raven]

Just ask your questions

See-also: #web-development

[rancid flame]

I realized.... pygame is like a mix of SDL2 & Raylib (both C libraries)

[thick ore]

pygame is essentially an SDL2 wrapper (it calls into the actual C SDL2 library under the hood)

if you look at the modules, it's almost a replica

pygame.mixer -> SDL2_mixer
pygame.ttf -> SDL2_ttf
pygame.image -> SDL2_image

etc

[languid cargo]

Blue will show the dirt the cat brings in. Brown will hide the dirt the cat brings in.

[raw zephyr]

when will the AUR ddosing END

it's so annoying

[undone granite]

I didn’t know DDOSing aur is a thing

Why would someone target aur specifically smh

[languid cargo]

Maybe someone finally snapped after that last Arch user told them they use Arch (btw). TIL https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/AUR-Repository-Still-Under-DDoS-Attack

Or perhaps a Debian user is helping the Arch community understand what relying on Apt can be like 😉

[uneven pine]

Reasonable reaction

[languid cargo]

Seriously though, isn't there a mirror? When I do sudo apt update it connects to about 20 mirrors I never use

[uneven pine]

The entire AUR is ran a an AMD Sempron laptop with a Hitachi deathstar attached by a USB 2.0 cable because the SATA port is broken

There is no redundancy

[rancid flame]

oh coollll

[spare prawn]

@foggy wagon

[foggy wagon]

thanks

how to do the first one bruhh

file handling ?

[spare prawn]

print('''any song that you like''') then run it so you can see song in terminal

[foggy wagon]

hmm

[spare prawn]

i am confused with second one

[foggy wagon]

or we can use file handling

[spare prawn]

idk about this lol

[foggy wagon]

basically take input and use for loop to print the table

[spare prawn]

yea doing doing

[spare prawn]

what about this

[foggy wagon]

yes this is correct

[foggy wagon]

i did the first one

[spare prawn]

i am just understanding why is there i and f

i got i means 1

but why f

like f"5

[foggy wagon]

f?

its a lil advanced for u

but its easy to understand

[spare prawn]

yea tell me

[foggy wagon]

so i am actually using a txt file where i got the whole poem

written

and then i am using file variable with open() function

[spare prawn]

its better to go on browser to get lyrics lol

[foggy wagon]

open(dir, mode) where dir is the path and mode is the

read , read wirte , write

permissions

file.readlines() just gives u the list of all the lines in the

file

and i am using loop to get each line

[foggy wagon]

u can also use links i guess i never tried it tho

[spare prawn]

😂 lol i am good with lyrics

dont go hard

i got this now

but i need to learn this actually otherwise i will forgot this in morning haha

[foggy wagon]

cool

[spare prawn]

is it okay?

[foggy wagon]

yes

[spare prawn]

thanks for clearing it and sorry for bothering you into this but still thanks really appreciate it

take care

https://tenor.com/view/my-dress-up-darling-anime-smile-marin-kitagawa-gif-25223512

[foggy wagon]

nah i'd liked to code with u along side

i forgot alot of stuff

[spare prawn]

lol

thanks

but you should learn coding tooo

i am just learning for someone to help him

[foggy wagon]

i am doing coding alot but in different language

so i am revisiting my beloved python once again

[spare prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-silverhand-cyberpunk-2077-gif-1282984467117982678

[spare prawn]

damn

so i guess third question is more tuf for me

pip instal

[foggy wagon]

xD

[foggy wagon]

use numpy

what module u using

btw

[spare prawn]

idk

i am just doing coding

what is module

no joking i really dont know this

[foggy wagon]

what module u installing

[spare prawn]

which module is easy

idk what is module but still i will try

[foggy wagon]

module is kind of external stuff made by other floofy peeps for us to make our life easier

[spare prawn]

so from where i can install module

[foggy wagon]

think it like a guy named bob coded a thing called sum which is used to calculate the sum of two numbers , and u need to calculate the sum so u can install bob module and use that sum stuff

[foggy wagon]

pip install module_name

[spare prawn]

sum stuff or same ?

[foggy wagon]

sum

add of two numbers

[spare prawn]

i see

yes

claude gave me qr code ans

this

[foggy wagon]

xD

dont use hard ones

[spare prawn]

whats the easy one

[foggy wagon]

numpy is easy

also avoid AI

code

use google to search stuff go through links

and also use python docs

they will help u learn more

[spare prawn]

yea

but like

if i need to solve something ai actually helps me a lot

[spare prawn]

numpy is what

[foggy wagon]

it gives ur direct answer

[spare prawn]

?

[foggy wagon]

numpy is a module

to calcualte stuff

[spare prawn]

i see

[ripe birch]

Who in the mother father world writes likes this 💀

I thought claude was for serious programmers

I guess not

[spare prawn]

I gave him my practice set ss and asked him 3rd question so he's not wrong here

[ripe birch]

try:
  import qrcode
except ImportError:
  print("install qrcode dumass")
  exit(1)

# write code here

[spare prawn]

@foggy wagon sorry I need to go

[foggy wagon]

bye

[spare prawn]

is this the ans?

[ripe birch]

No

[spare prawn]

then

[ripe birch]

This is how sane ppl write python

[foggy wagon]

its better to write code urself

[ripe birch]

Idk the context so idk what u r trying to solve

[foggy wagon]

and learn it

[spare prawn]

alr

[foggy wagon]

he is solving his practice set

it seems he is a beginner

[ripe birch]

Ah